Baby area separate from the older kids playground
Sensory-heavy playground that would be appealing for autistic/neurodivergent children Covered shaded areas
Bathrooms
Shade!!! Lights at night!
Walking/running paths
Trees for shade!
Zipline
Ample Shad for the playground and picnic areas
Pedestrian access/walkability
Bathrooms
Sculptures/art from local artists, lots of trees/grass
Restrooms
A splash pad
No turf please, no more plastic playgrounds, be innovative Splash pad
Skatepark
skatepark
Shade areas, trees overhead
Path/area for roller skating
Splash pad
skatepark
Olympus park in Encinitas has a very fun and unique set of structures with the zip line, grass slide (with cardboard boxes), and tire swing. Splash pads are usually a fun thing too.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Fall 2023
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Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Other amenities
A single unique feature that can entertain kids for a few hours - like a climbing wall.
Pool
Space usage to people ratio to avoid crowding in places within the park.
Walking paths, jogging trail, pool
Pool
North Carlsbad pool complex
Unique play ground equipment making it fun for all ages of kids.
Roller slides and splash pad
Lights
Lots of shade - fountain to sit at
Filtered water fountains
No lights. Paths connect with existing trail system. No bathrooms.
Rock climbing wall
Something for older kids like the sledding hill at Olympus park in Encinitas, adventure course, and a zip line
Playgrounds with all the families around here would be amazing. As well as a nice place to walk.
Extra restrooms
Bathrooms close by
Shade structure over the playground.
Shaded areas and restrooms
Shaded areas
No public bathrooms, no lights
That allows for bike paths, lots of space for picnic tables, something that is useful for everyone.
Dog friendly
Make it a chill place. No lights. Integrate existing walking trail. Everyone uses to walk and take thier dogs. Don't wreck it.
No lights. No bathrooms. Food trucks-Yes Park too small for big fields. No good way in and out.
No lights, no bathrooms
Trails for walking and running
Bike Trails
Sitting benches everywhere
walking and bike path
Dog park with separate sides for large and small dogs . Lot's of sitting,running, and shaded areas , for socializing human and dogs.
Shade & Seating areas
Splash pads, open space for community movie nights and farmers markets/events Walking path for LEASHED dogs
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Fall 2023
111
Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Other amenities
Natural playground materials vs plastic primary colors. Buena vista playground and landscaping is beautiful example. Perhaps a water feature splash pad? One of those roller slides like at bub williamson park
Shade over playground, splash pad
SWIMMING pool
Field lighting, shaded spectator spaces, youth sports walk-in storage Restroom.
A water rinse-off station with great drainage forfor dogs/people.
Shaded areas
If there are picnic tables they should be shaded
Climbing area. Cottonwood park in Encinitas built a neat climbing (faux) boulder.
When planning playground features, strive to make it unique, like the landscape architect did at Olympus Park in Encinitas.
Provide adequate shade and drinking fountains/water bottle filling stations.
Allow dogs to be in the park on a lease
picnic tables too
Allow dogs in parks or build add another dog park. We also need more baseball fields for older kids.
Splash pad
Bbq areas , garden
Enclosed playground
Shaded areas or maybe even a splash pad
Playground areas for 5 and under, 5-12 yrs old and 12 yrs and above Playground equipment for older kids
Please consider not adding a dog park as there are 3 within a few miles of this location. A track would be helpful for all age groups, as well as multi use sports fields. SHADE is needed.
Lastly, if a playground is built, make it different than the generic slides/swings (ropes, more climbing features, etc) so it isn't the same old.
Clean bathrooms
Shade
Shade
Water splash pad/swimming
No 5g towers, clean bathrooms,
Be able to host future summer Concerts in the Park events. picinic area
Clean Restrooms and Big Playground
Mountain Biking
Shaded areas, bathrooms, filtered water fountains
Bikes! Paths for mountain bikes are great, but would especially like to see a pump track for those interested in BMX biking. Currently we have to travel to 4S Ranch area or Temecula.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Fall 2023
112
Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Other amenities
We would like a pool at this site. If there is a playground it would be great to have unique options for older kids like the zip line at Olympus park in leucadia.
Snack bar and centralized gathering area, similar to Chase fields Tall slides, splash area, grass area
Shade
Shade
Is there a way to get their by walking or biking without having to go on El Camino? proper lighting and clean and accessible restrooms
Nicer Bathrooms. A space for food trucks.
Mountain bike trails, trails that connect for more than a half mile. Trails not made of concrete.
Do you need to make sure that it has proper son and not in a shaded area and it would also help if the street access is close to where the gardens are out as well Amphitheater for night summer shows
Bathrooms and drinking fountains
Swimming pool. There’s only 2 in Carlsbad and they are always busy. There’s such a need for more soccer fields. Now that Messi has joined the MLS this will increase soccer popularity and Carlsbad lacks soccer fields. There’s not enough
skating rink
We NEED more pools!!
Shade & tables
Shade for parents
Shade.
Lots of bathroom stalls for the women’s bathroom
Create rollerskating track.
Splash pad or swimming pool
Splash pad for kids to play
A clubhouse for local classes and social events.
Shaded waiting area?
Connect to adjacent trails.
Bathrooms
Art in the hard scape, like mosaics, sculptures, etc.
Bathrooms
Living on the east coast many parks had very nice lacrosse facilities. Given that lately lacrosse is becoming a popular west coast sport it would be nice to see some dedicated lacrosse fields. Thank you
Splash pad, zip line like Encinitas, unique challenging play structures like in Carmel valley, large slide hill like Encinitas for sliding down on a plastic sled or even box, rubber bottom matting for the playground! No sand! More shade over play equipment! Especially shade for the swings as is parents stand in the sun for so long just pushing our babes and sweat to death! The new features at the community park in Carmel valley (the one with the bike Exhibit 6
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Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Other amenities
track/pump track) is amazing! All of the play equipment and the way it is structured is top notch and we’d like to see that kind of thing here in cbad too! Walking area/track
Swimming pool
Zipline!
Water splash pad
Dog park. Edible landscape. Native landscape
Slack line posts, slack line practice area. It's a sport that helps streghten your body and mind.
It's hard to find two trees with the right distance across and on even ground. It'd be so great to have at least one designated slack line area...consisting of two post atleast 60 feet across.
Big dog and small dog park
Connect to hiking trails for running. Public bathrooms.
Shade covers
Please, please, please have shade at the playground- for parents as well as kids A running walking track would be amazing, water or splash play feature and fields for lacrosse.
Shaded areas. Check out bub williams park in vista!
If putting in a playground, please consider adding shade sails. So many of the playgrounds in our area are too hot to use by midday. Please also consider cooling turf. A lot of kids like to run barefoot. A playground for older kids and one for tots would be ideal. We don't live in Carlsbad but are in Henie Hills and frequent Carlsbad parks..
Poured in place rubber flooring. Shade above playground. Splash pad. Musical instruments.
Gated playground.
Include a water element like a small pond with ducks if possible. Tranquil to represent the quite community along that stretch yet appealing to all ages and demographics. I grew up in Upland and we had a beautiful rose garden at Upland Memorial. Get the community involved to help plant it. Kids loved running through it and older folks loved walking. One of my fondest memories. No more tennis courts. I live above the courts at La Costa Greens and they are primarily used for pickle ball. The noise of the ball hitting the paddle carries and can be annoying to those who live close. The early morning pickleball tournaments can get really loud too. Pickleballers will find a place to play. There are articles being written about this. Pit in basketball courts so kids and parents can play. Thank you for this opportunity. I am a married 54 yr old woman with a 16 yr old for reference.
I have yet to see kid friendly bathrooms at our parks, examples include shorter toilets and sinks to encourage use of bathrooms. I understand the use of mulch/wood chips on the playgrounds but it also causes many splinter fiascos! I’ve seen parks in other cities that have a community ball storage case, with a set of multi-use balls. It would be interesting to see if our community can handle this, I believe we could take good care and not steal, break, etc Shade over the playground
Shade over playground, natural walking trails, shaded grass areas.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Fall 2023
114
Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Other amenities
Shade and heat tolerant features, access from south/west corner, tie in to walking trails, more interactive play area (touch, feel, sound, caves, rocks) Splash pad
Shaded areas, bathrooms, party rental space, innovative playground concepts like the Encinitas zip line park
We want a really dynamic space forKids of multiple ages to play coffee kiosk and food trucks
fully fenced in playground for younger kids
No sand for the playground - also that the playground is accessible Kids exploration, edible vegetation, and easy access for strollers Add a splash pad. Ensure there are picnic tables in a gazebo or shaded area.
A water play area for dogs
Pretend road track for kids, bikes, scooters
Playground options for multiple age ranges
Adventure playground
Adventure-style playground. See Fox Hills Park in Las Vegas/Summerlin, Nevada.
Playground away from parking lot
A splash pad
Wild play is amazing. Playgrounds that's are interesting and different draw in people from all over the county. Children deserve wide open green spaces. Also doubleswings are amazing.
Large climbing structure on playground
For playgrounds inspire kids like Leucadia Oaks. Pool is in high demand as Alga Norte is overcrowded and hard to get lanes. Add features that make this a park for Carlsbad residents. Calavera Hills is 90% traveling teams from other cities. While nice, it doesn’t serve the residents of the local community.
Veteran's Park is very nearby, but isolated from most residential areas - put sports elements there (especially pickleball, etc.) This is a beautiful parcel I enjoy walking with my dog, and would love for it to be a natural park for the community (as it connects to nearby Robertson/Calavera)trails). There is so much development surrounding this corner, its design should offset the residential sprawl surrounding it. Allow this space to be a communal area to escape to (think NY's Central Park - on a much smaller scale) Gate around playground area! We need more parks in north county that are gated for the young ones.
Active adults/Seniors need projects - bocce ball, tracks, picnic tables Indoor / outdoor hall to rent for parties and community gatherings away from the public Splash pad
Shaded areas, lots of seating/tables, bathrooms with changing stations Shady areas, fountain/splash pad
Bathrooms, shade
splash pad
bathrooms
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Fall 2023
115
Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Other amenities
Children water park, restrooms
Please please please make the paths concrete or hard surface, whether they be for walking/running - and make it continguous. Im a upper 50s female and roller skating is my exercise - finding a flat hard surface to skate around is near impossible and can be easily incorporated into a walking/bike path ( add striping!) or a bball court (make the surface big enough to skate on when not being used for bball, or add a track with trak surface and then the bball courts hard surace in the middle of the track, which can be also used for roller skating. I know from personal experience in the last few years that roller skating surfaces are in demand - the roller hockey rink at MLK parl in O'side is booked and competitive to reserve, same with the space in 4S Ranch. Escondido is only available to skate on Sun and Wed - the rest is reserved for roller hockey. There are skaters all over Carlsbad area who travel all over to skate - so many of us woudl LOVE to be able to skate closer to home. Skate parks are a different animal - a flat oval or a flat contiguous hard surface would get used for so many different purposes. There isn't an outdoor skating area in any park in Carlsbad, so this would be a good new add to a new park.
Shade over playgrounds.
Baby Swings at playground
Bathrooms and shade
A splash pad and fenced in playground would be amazing
Accessible and gated playgrounds
Small playground for under 5 years, water play, shaded areas for summer time, gated playgrounds
Gaga pit for the kids with shade over top!!! All the schools have them, and is the most popular thing with all the kids and and yet none of the community playgrounds have them.
Every kid and Carlsbad would think you!
A splash pad
Playground that is visible from seating area. So parents can sit and watch and not have to worry about their kid not being seen from certain spots of the park Include the soft playground topping instead of sand. As well as toddler swings. Would love more plots for a community garden too!
Dog friendly
good gathering spaces, good sports fields, proximity of bathrooms to fields and gathering spaces, good birthday spaces near basketball and grass areas The play ground to have the soft squishy ground. And some shaded areas. A splash pad area Splash pad, better play areas for kids
Splash pad for kids
Bathrooms
Include shade for playground/picnic areas.
how about a gaga put?
Gated playground, good shade, splash pad would be amazing, walking path, trees Make walking paths shaded with trees
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Fall 2023
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Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Other amenities
no sand or limited sand. splash pad
Lighting, security
Smart park - outlets to charge, WiFi access. Water play (splash pad). More advanced playground for older kids.
For the dog park have grass like the Encinitas dog park Splash pad. Food trucks
Big clean bathrooms. Splash pad for kids
A decorative fountain/water feature that kids can also play in.
Splash pad for kids
Shade! I used to live in San Jose and they have the most amazing parks, look there for inspiration.
Out door picnic areas
A shaded playground
Large trees to create shady areas for picnicking. Parking area large enough to invite. Food trucks. Consider food trucks Sundays! Bocce ball courts. Ornamental gardens with educational component. I walking paths.
Separate toddler playground and shade!
Swings and shade
Bathrooms
Restrooms
Playground not next to parking lot
Art gallery
Walkability from neighboring neighborhoods
Running track for the community! (We do not have one) :( Water features / splash pad
A water play area for kids
Clean bathrooms, shade for spectators of the sports fields.
Water features. Meditation area
Water play area
Fenced in play area for kids
Splash pad for kids with a playground
Bathrooms!
Shelter and community building perhaps with concessions for youth sports and fundraisers Water features kids would love.
Splash pad
Take advantage of any changes in topography that the site has to make it a more interesting, memorable park. Create a theme-based playground that provides a destination and sense of place for the kids. Swings and monkey bars please! Integrate educational opportunities about Carlsbad's unique history. Add as much shade as possible so that the park can be used during even the hottest months. It would be awesome to Integrate some kind of water-wise park element since were so close to the ocean. Provide one of a kind seating opportunities for Exhibit 6
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Fall 2023
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Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Other amenities
parents and kids to just hang out and talk, perhaps adult sized swings next to kid sized ones.
Please make sure you get feedback from local kids - they often have the most innovative ideas!.
Splash pad!! Shade structure.
a larger dog park, make it bigger than one acre
Water feature like pond or lake
A pool
That we have many sports parks already, but not too many walking path friendly (especially stroller friendly!) options. Also it’s important to have ample shade and water features, especially in this heat!
Make it unique. Not in new features but do features differently. Different kind of playground or picnic area.
Please add a public pool in the north part of Carlsbad.
Synthetic putting (golf) green
EV charging
good public restrooms
Swimming pool
long perimeter walking path
Splash pad
Splash pad or interactive play areas as well as lots of space for e- bike parking Restrooms. Group gathering place that could be used as an entertainment facility like for TGIF concerts. Merry-go-round. Snack Bar.
Dog park to have grass on it please, just like Encinas Lg dog park. And just large grassy areas as well.
An all-weather running track (400 meters) would be ideal.
Given the lack of a public pool at Sage Creek High School and the low number of public pools in Carlsbad it would be great to add here. I would also advocate to use the entire land area to develop usable receation spaces and not leave any as untouched open space. High density living and lack of personal green space creates more demand for public green space with shaded lawns and gardens. The area should include alot of trees to create shade. A dedicated tennis and pickleball facility run by a vendor with a small 'clubhouse' to create community would be welcome. The City of Mountain View in the Bay Area has successfully run a similar center at their Cuesta Park. It would be great to create a swim and tennis facility run by the City at affordable rates so residents didn't have to be wealthy to join a country club. https://www.mountainview.gov/our-city/departments/community- services/recreation/sports-fitness/tennis?locale=en . I would also advocate for all parking access should be provided from Cannon
Dog friendly throughout
Interactive water features or splash pads, historical markers, art sculptures and installation (interactive)
Shade and additional housing near by
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Fall 2023
118
Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Other amenities
A lot of dog people in the area. We need a big dog park like Alga norte A grocery store/farm fresh food was promised to us when Shea Homes built this tract Canterbury. We’ve never gotten it and we don’t really want a park. It would be better if a farm fresh produce store was built.
Bike trail
Swimming pool
A park where older adults can go and enjoy some community with others. Shady, grassy, flat places where we can have outdoor classes like yoga or tai chi. Pretty walking path all the way around park next to a stream. Playground with nature in mind and a water feature where grandkids can splash. Multi purpose field if room but no bright lights.. splash pads
Currently this field is used for dogs to run around. The neighbors love taking their dogs here to exercise. It would be great to designate a space (dog park) for dogs to run around to keep this opportunity available once the land is developed!
Enough space for TGIF concerts
Filtered water fountains and water bottle fill spigots
Grass dog park
Monkey bars
Bike racks
shaded areas with seating, disc golf, meeting area
splash pad
playground and walking paths
Horse shoe pits
No dog park
SHADED PLAYGROUND PLEASE, not just a couple random sail cloth A swimming pool that Sage Creek HS could access.
It would be amazing if the "playground" could be geared toward older kids (tweens/teens).
All of the playgrounds in our area are for kids ages 0-12. Big kids like to climb and play, too! See this article for the benefits: https://mrcrec.com/blog/playgrounds-for-teens-and-adults- are-here-with-challenge-course. Some kids aren't into sports, so this type of playground is great for them (and their parents!) to get some active time. I've lived in Carlsbad since 2014 (prior to that Cardiff for 9 years), and I think this could be something really unique for our city - I've never seen anything like it in our area. Things like obstacle courses or fitness-based items would be so cool. Thanks for considering!
clean bathrooms
Lots of picnic areas
Look to have multiuse trails and walkways.
Lots of shade, grass/mature trees, nature
Meditative areas. Concert areas.
Roller skating ribbon, like seen in Chicago at Maggie Daly park.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Fall 2023
119
Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Other amenities
Incorporate having shade with trees in grass areas that may be for picnic areas. Not just gazebos.
Carlsbad NEEDS more public pools!!!!
A wave pool for beginner surfers - not a huge one. Just big enough to get our young kids comfortable with riding.
Bike park
This would be a wonderful opportunity for ADULTS: small stage or platform that the community can use for concerts, plays, city events. There are plenty of sports fields around, let’s make Robertson Park something different!
Multiple bathrooms; splash pad
My kids favorite parks all have one thing in common, somewhere to ride their bikes. Their favorite things are bike pump tracks or simple mountain bike skills courses. Due to the hills it’s hard to find places to ride bikes for kids so we’d love somewhere to do so. Another thing that my kids love at parks is a splash pad. There also aren’t many skate parks in Carlsbad and I think it would be a good addition, especially one catered to smaller kids.
A turf grass hill that kids can slide down on cardboard in the playground area that is similar to Olympus Park in Encinitas. Whenever able, please do grass and not turf sports fields. And perhaps, consider full grass fields and not baseball fields and baseball fields take up so much space for only one field.
Connectivity with multi use trails in the area. Quality over quantity of amenities Concession Stand to sell food during games
Dog friendly is a plus
Shade! Trees and shelter
Art works, either on permanent or time-limited exhibition Making it turf and beautiful
Bathrooms and drinking fountain
Sound
Walkways
Water park
The main thing I'd like to see is a dog park.
The city needs another pool. We are at capacity at Monroe and I feel this is overdue.
Drinking fountain, running track, shaded picnic area.
Please add shady areas. I would love to spend more time in parks, but I can't be in the sun for long. There's not much shade in public spaces around here. // I'd also love to see a ping-pong table. It is near impossible to find a ping-pong table in San Diego County. Such a fun game. // I'd also appreciate an interactive art project, something along the lines of Queen Califia's Magical Circle in Escondido or a walkable labyrinth. Or maybe an obstacle course? I don't play team sports, and it feels like a lot of public space is given over to team sports already.
This is great but we need one by the ocean! A bike track would be so cool. There’s on in Irvine in Woodbridge that’s so awesome for kids
A playground with lots of equipment line swings and monkey bars.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Fall 2023
120
Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Other amenities
Please put in walking path/trail that can easily connect to paths in the Foothills and Robertson ranch communities. Please have lots of bike racks and limit off street parking (roads into the park by the fire station can't handle heavy traffic). An outdoor gym would be really nice, as well. There are a lot of apartments and condos within walking distance. This park is these residents' primary outdoor space, so having a design that covers many age demographics (12yrs+) would be nice. There are already lots of tot lot and playgrounds for young kids in this area of Carlsbad.
shade & water feature
Shade and kid friendly design. Hidden park is a great layout and playground. Reservoir is not.
Please install a good quality play structure with unique features that are well designed. The playground should be tucked back from the road (like hidden cannon park) I think a splash zone for kids would be a great addition, like the one in Simi Valley called Rancho Tapo Community Park.
Dog park
I really like the paths at Poinsettia and Alga Norte Parksthat weave throughout for walking. At Alga Norte the paths are also wide enough to accomodate a decent number of pedestrians, children on scooters, etc.
Bathrooms
Bicycle and walking paths are always a welcome addition!! A small area with designated skateboarding/roller skating/scootering features just like Olympus park in Leucadia. That park is really well done and has something for everyone.
Bike paths!
Amphitheater
A place for food and drink trucks to go. Would love to have it be a small gathering small for adults too, especially with food available
Please add a splash pad. Carlsbad parks don’t have splash pads for the kids.
Interior trail with connection to adjacent habitat area trails Please consider plenty of walking paths where dogs are allowed on leash.
Restrooms!
Shaded areas,
Splash pads
Filtered drinking water
Trails connected to existing trails
Have a community center as well as a park.
Clean bathrooms with regular maintenance
Lights for the park
Need shade structures
Natural landscape with walking and running paths. No stadium lighting More pools!
Tables for picnics, shaded by trees, much shade area, splash pad for kids to play Splash pads
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Fall 2023
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Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Other amenities
Food stands
Single user and "family" restrooms, shade, water fountains, bike racks, plenty of trash, green and recycle bins, clear signage as to where dogs are allowed.
Need to have bathrooms
Shade
Benches for sitting and enjoying nature.
Rest room
An area for outdoor roller skating.
Accessible walking paths that take you around the park to see all the things that are going on so we can learn to appreciate the diversity of the way people play Swimming pool ������
another community swimming pool
Playground are a must. Swings and slides always win with my kids. some nice running/walking trails
Water bottle filling station/drinking fountain
Space for older children and younger children. Plenty of space for parents to sit and watch.
Paths to walk on
Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Miscellaneous comments
Make it suitable and welcoming for all ages.
Recognition of indigenous peoples incorporated in any form. Water features The people and not what’s going to financially going to benefit the city Weather changes so winter to summer (shade, water, etc) Consider the kids!
The activities of the community
Making sure it’s a welcoming place for people of all, not just families with kids. If you’re planning on making it a TGIF location I beg you to create a dedicated space that’s less dusty than a baseball diamond.
How it could be utilized for classes for seniors and children (during summer for the kids).
Please don’t duplicate what you have planned for Veterans Park.
The location of this new park is quite close to Calavera Hills, which has so many of the suggested features in the previous question. It’s also close to the dog park on Carlsbad Village Dr. I feel like this should have something to give it its own “identity” but I’m not entirely sure how. The idea of an ornamental garden is interesting- maybe there could be a small botanical garden that is accessible via a walking trail.
Model after Olympus or Poinsettia Park
Carlsbad
Community events, ie Music, Movies, Yoga.
Exhibit 6
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Q: What else would you like the city to consider when planning this new park? Miscellaneous comments
This message is actually a request to be forwarded to the city dept in charge of the round about at tamarack. Please have them contact the city of Encintas who recently put in same round about, and because of accidents and pedestrian safety shortly thereafter voted to remove it.
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Ideas wall comments
Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Accessibility I am an active wheelchair user and love when I can explore parks and they have accessibility features like walkways along flowered gardens or through the grass and trees. Make it easy for anyone to enjoy nature! Also I play wheelchair tennis and would love to see more tennis courts in Carlsbad! We have some at Kelly and Calavera but they’re busy and another set of courts that are close-by and accessible would be awesome! I think there should be more Wheelchair Accessible Tennis courts in North Carlsbad. There are Calavera and Laguna Rivera aka Kelly courts but those are the only accessible ones. They are normally busy and would be great to have more wheelchair accessible courts. If you guys were add to pickleball courts add them far away as they are annoying to play next to and it’s annoying to the neighbors.
Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Safety Park should first of all be secure and absolutely forbid the homeless and riffraffs. Should not contribute to noise or light pollution. Carlsbad is a quiet, contemplative, clean, green, eco friendly, self sustaining, low key town. We are a secret jewel in SoCal. Please keep it that way.
There are enough sport fields around, how many parks are there where you can sit quietly under a tree and calm down? The park space is not big- only about 11 acres and not big enough for noisy sport fields.
abundant shade trees with a fitness course
compact dirt paths throughout (asphalt only for parking) drought tolerant and native plantings only with info signage concrete picnic benches and barbeques
splashing fountain area
dog park
carefully placed lighting
minimal grass, but some innovative material for picnicking ranger security 24/7
Security. It is important to make sure that this park is secure. That there are no areas that would allow for hidden illicit activities to take place. Trees and bushes should be placed in a way to allows a clear line of sight with no dark spaces during the day and evening. Another idea would be to have a gate that is closed at the entrance to prevent any use of the park during closed hours.
Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Neighborhood concerns
Enough PARKING to support the various sports programs.
Good LIGHTING will allow the park to get so much more use! From younger generations that Exhibit 6
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play sports in fall/winter as well as older kids/adults that can benefit from it, enabling programs at a later hour.
Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Neighborhood concerns
Consider the park entrance/parking lot behind the Fire Station (SW end) keeping it furthest from the homes on Trailblazer and the natural habitat. Lights will be less obtrusive to both in this location and allows for entrances/exits off of both Canon and El Camino. However, the 5G Towers will need to be moved, they have 2 years left on a 3 yr agreement (temporarily moved here). This needs to be addressed irrespective of the parking lot location. I hope this is also part of the planning process??
At the community event, it was stated that there is only going to be one (1) entrance/exit off Trailblazer to the park. There needs to be multiple entrances or exits or traffic will become an issue off of Wind Trail Way and Trailblazer Way. I would like to see the city look into alternative entrances/exits from/to Cannon and El Camino into the park site. Additionally, there needs to be some sort of traffic study done on current traffic patterns with future models of expected traffic.
Move the entrance to the park to El Camino Real, NOT Trailblazer Way. This will be an obstruction to the fire station and will cause issues for the Robertson Ranch and Foothills Communities, there are already traffic challenges being addressed with both the City of CB and the Police Dpt. There is NO Parking prohibited within 15 feet of a fire station so Trailblazer entrance would violate that law. Lastly, consider the homeowners that live on Trailblazer/back up to the park when planning layout.
Please consider moving the entrance to the park somewhere other than Trailblazer way.
There is only 1 way in and 1 way out and this could be an obstruction to the fire station.
There should be no parking on Trailblazer way at all. There is so much traffic already getting out of the neighborhood and this will definitely make it worse. Parking is prohibited within 15 feet of a fire station driveway.
Off road biking is inappropriate for an established quiet neighborhood All this amounts to is more noise in our quiet community. Please take it away from here. Just remember when election time comes around.
This sounds like a great way to tell the folks of Robertson Ranch who live right next to the park, “Hey, we want to ruin the quality of your community with a very noisy sports wall!” Park is too small to be a Community Park and thus those more active uses would not be suitable. Incorporate those uses into Veteran's Park which will come on line much sooner than this site. The vacant site is currently used as a de facto dog park, running / walking trail and is enjoyed by all. Consider the traffic impacts that more active uses will generate.This site clearly cannot clearly mitigate for that. Also, HCP lands are adjacent to this property and do not need to be stressed.
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Fields/courts We need multiple natural grass fields. Not baseball diamonds or turf.
Carlsbad does not have a single grass field for soccer in a city park. There are several hundred recreational soccer players that use substandard baseball or turf fields every single day of the year.
Dog parks have better grass. Encinitas and Oceanside have multiple natural grass fields. We have none. Only few old school fields at Las Flores, Magnolia, Aviara Oaks and Valley with very restrictive or no access.
Sand VB courts for the public.
And Sage Creek Beach VB could rent space because it’s so close. They don’t have home space of their own.
Birdhouses and a rock garden with Carlsbad flowers
Shade trees and permanent fun beach umbrellas to offer shade Maybe even a fun little snack shack
Trail or labyrinth
I'd like to see a bocce ball court with a rake, where people can bring their own balls. If not this, then something equivalent that people of a certain age could enjoy regularly.
Add a walking path around and through the perimeter of the park.
Sand volleyball courts.
Tennis & pickleball courts.
Tables/benches for picnics.
A fitness park-something similar to the AARP FitLots: https://fitlot.org/plan-a-fitlot/ There are photos at this link. Perhaps approach one or more of Carlsbad's largest companies to explore sponsorship or other funding for the park (Viasat, Thermo Fisher Scientific, etc.).
Trees for natural shade. A meandering natural surface walking/running path that goes through and around various areas of the park.
I would like to see Pickle-ball courts that have beginner, intermediate and challenger sections along with proper shading and seating (unlike the one at Poinsettia Park.
There are plenty of pb courts. We don't need more.
Poinsettia Park pickleball was a good start. Unfortunately in terms of design and functionality it is a failure in my eyes. There are plenty of skilled players who need their own courts away from the enthusiasts. Higher skilled games generally take longer to play. There should be a greater emphasis to provide these courts. Having plenty of covered seating for those waiting to play games is needed. Entrance / exit should be noninvasive to to playing courts. Use player input for design.
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Fields/courts Poinsettia Park pickleball was a good start. Unfortunately in terms of design and functionality it is a failure in my eyes. There are plenty of skilled players who need their own courts away from the enthusiasts. Higher skilled games generally take longer to play. There should be a greater emphasis to provide these courts. Having plenty of covered seating for those waiting to play games is needed. Entrance / exit should be noninvasive to to playing courts. Player input for designs. Do it right.
In addition to a couple real grass multi-sports fields I would love to see a portion of the space modeled like Olympus park in Encinitas. They successfully packed so many cool features into a small footprint. A modern metro park style play structure with zip line, small concrete bowl and flow course for skateboards/roller skates/scooters (unlit so not disruptive to neighbors after dark), and maybe a few pickle ball courts.
Carlsbad was home to one of the worlds first skateparks, honor that history & start including small skateable spaces in our parks! Look at Olympus or the Vulcan street park in Leucadia to see how a small and simple skate-friendly spot is inclusive and fun for our parks.
Grass fields for sports would be a nice addition and alternative to turf fields.
Sand volleyball courts and regular volleyball courts, lots of grassy areas with shade trees. To make it represent Carlsbad, add some sculptures around the park of iconic Carlsbad features, Flower Fields, Carlsbad Water house, surfers, tennis and pickleball players, owner walking her dog, bike paths, etc.
Please add more pickleball courts. I am leaving the city daily to play and that should not be the case. Even when they built the dog park at Poinsettia it is just used for more pickleball parking. Please partner with the groups in Carlsbad for proper design and lighting to at least alleviate some of the overcrowding at local courts. This is the fastest growing sport in the country and there is no reason to not add more public courts for the people of your city to play.
How exactly do you plan to only have the more skilled players go to these courts? It's public.
There was another post here suggesting courts with beginner intermediate and advanced.
Let's just try to push for more courts and if you don't like rec play then I'll meet you over at Riggs for 7$ lol
Definitely additional Pickle-ball courts. Suggest looking at how other cities, i.e. Palm Springs and Albuquerque NM, have added courts. Of course this involves shade, parking and bathrooms.
A beautiful place for families to enjoy, play structures, splash pad, Pickleball, multi-use sports field, baseball. Thank you for keeping families with young kids in mind as space in backyards are limited. We love enjoying the outside to play and have family time.
If pickle ball courts were to be implimented, then they need to be indoor and completely sound-proofed. This area echos from roaring car engines to people yelling at El Cam/Cannon bridge. The natural Acoustics of this park will be a problem for noisy sports (pickle ball, tennis and other active "popping, Dribbling" sound sports).
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Fields/courts I can see a running track/nature reserve/hiking trail/duck pond and possible small playground being enjoyed. Circular entrance/exit off Cannon may help traffic flows.
I would prefer outdoor pickleball courts. They are very popular, it's a great outdoor social sport that brings our community together and is great exercise.
Absolutely agree with adding pickleball courts!
Pickleball Courts - Outdoor pickleball courts would be great! Preferably at least 6 courts.
Pickleball is extremely popular, it's a great outdoor social sport that brings our community together and it is great exercise for ALL AGES. I have met so many people through playing pickleball. It's been said it's America's fastest growing sport.
The Foothills HOA has a pickle ball court and it does not get that much use. Go ahead and use that court if you want pickleball and lets put this park to use for fitness and other activities.
Would love something that suited Adults and Seniors and was a multipurpose surface. Some shade in this area would be good.
It would be nice to have a dual use park that incorporates a couple leisure activity options such as a pickleball court and putt putt course similar to http://popstroke.com that also has a small community center and space for HOA meetings and other small events.
Pickleball would be a perfect addition. It's a great sport for all ages and its popularity is growing quickly (as shown by how busy Pointsettia's courts are).
My husband and I, in our 70’s would love to see more Pickleball courts, but perhaps not here.
They belong near sports fields where the noise is expected. They would be great additions in every school yard, used whenever school is not in session. Makes for great exercise for kids during physical Ed. Too.
Multi use sports fields. Kids are practicing until 10:00 pm because we have no field space for football, soccer, Lacrosse, softball and baseball.
Need more pickleball courts, not enough public courts in Carlsbad! Sand Volleyball, running track, open nature concept, nature center, swings. Only open from sunrise to sunset and if there is a restroom and parking lot they should also be locked at sunset. The parks in Poway have these hours and it seems to abate the homeless problem.
Bocce ball courts, running and walking trail around the entire perimeter, playground and picnic/bbq areas, a lot of trees and shade, large multi-use field (no large outdoor lights) as that would be a nightmare for all the homes nearby. A great place to host Friday night concerts in the park type of field.
Love the food truck idea and music, etc.
Water features would be great.
Pickle ball and tennis would be too loud unfortunately next to and across from all those homes.
Zone 5 is a grass soccer field. That might be what you’re looking for.
Fields/ Sports complex. There aren’t nearly enough for all the kids who play sports here.
Enough parking for everyone.
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Fields/courts Lacrosse is growing so fast throughout SoCal and the country. Our local rec league, Carlsbad Youth Lacrosse, has grown by over 20% every year in the last few years! I would love to see the first San Diego dedicated turf lacrosse field here in Carlsbad!!! Lacrosse fields, roller hockey rink, pickle ball, pump track! The park should be a place that the public can enjoy. In no way, should you build soccer fields and have them rented out every day of the week to a club. There's no where for families to use fields without being kicked off because so and so has them rented from 4 to 9 during the week. It's fine to let them use them occasionally on Saturday's for games but this is a public park and should be available to the public at all times.
We would love to see a athletic "great park" with multiple use fields for lacrosse and have goals available for practice, as well as a track for walk/run since schools don't allow public use , pickle ball courts, . Dog field that is not wood chips and large enough.
parking should be furthest from homes
A dedicated lacrosse field.
Lacrosse is fast growing and I would like to see Carlsbad embrace the sport by dedicating a turf field to the sport.
Yes to more pickleball courts and smarter design and more shade. You should not have to walk across other courts where people are playing to get to your court.
A dedicated space for a lacrosse wall for players to do "wall ball." It would take up very little space and could be used by more than one player at a time. This is an integral part of lacrosse training.
Baseball fields
Soccer fields please. We need a soccer complex.
City SC just sent a communication to all club members asking them to comment on this site and ask for a soccer complex.
DO NOT LET MONEY TALK!
This space is small and tucked into a very small residential community with limited access points. It is not fit for a soccer complex or the traffic involved in such.
Carlsbad needs a dedicated soccer/sports complex to support the large number of youth athletes throughout the city that need a place to practice and play tournaments/games.
There are only TWO dedicated soccer fields in Carlsbad (Poinsettia Park and Aviara Park) The City of Carlsbad does not have a multi-field soccer complex. This makes Robertson Ranch unique to every other park in the City.
Participation in youth soccer is at an all time high. There is a critical need for more soccer fields in the City of Carlsbad to accommodate the growing number of kids. As the City continues to build more housing, we need infrastructure to support the growing number of families.
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Fields/courts Carlsbad desperately needs a SOCCER field! Soccer is on the rise and we do not have adequate fields for our youth to play on. This space can accommodate the fields, the parking, and is safe for our kids! Soccer ! soccer! Soccer!
Soccer field(s) would be nice. Maybe hybrid grass. Kids are less free range than they used to be. Organized sports is a common way to compensate for that change. With that said, youth soccer is way too expensive. Maybe require clubs that lease the fields to increase their percentage of families on scholarship or adopt changes that make soccer less of a “pay to play” arrangement. An adult 11v11 coed rec soccer league would be awesome.
This is literally a copy/paste from City SCs email communication.
More soccer fields please
Definitely more soccer fields are needed. Practices go very late into the evening because of lack of space. Thank you
This space is 11.2 acres. The average soccer field is 2 acres. The average size for a decent community garden is 1 acre. Seems like there could be room to accommodate both, with restrooms and parking. Also looks like this was already meant to be designated as a sports field complex based on the growing number of families and need for additional fields since 1990 -
https://www.carlsbadca.gov/departments/parks-recreation/parks-community- centers/parks/future-park-planning/robertson-ranch-park More SOCCER fields!! More kids play soccer than any other sport so we need fields to support these players development.
We don’t have enough soccer fields to accommodate the growing number of kids playing soccer.
We need more natural grass soccer fields. You can use them for multiple sports and incorporate walking paths, nature features and water features for people to enjoy as a walk or run path. We have some of the best youth teams in the country yet they don’t play on a natural grass field that all respected youth academies around the world play on.
Soccer fields!!
Carlsbad desperately needs dedicated grass soccer fields and a multiport complex. Carlsbad is growing along with youth soccer participation. Soccer and other sports that could be played on these fields helps keep our kids mentally and physically healthy, and brings families and community together. Please, please develop these fields for our community.
More soccer fields and sports complex. Our kids are out to late for practices because of lack of fields. Robertson Ranch provides the space to help improve Carlsbad youth sports.
A really awesome set of soccer fields!!
A multi-field soccer complex would be amazing. Maybe with some shade and spectating areas and restrooms. It’s a beautiful sport with huge benefits for kids and Carlsbad is home to high level nationally ranked soccer clubs with not enough field options for training and games.
Make sure there is great viewing options for the sports fields. Opposite of Poinsettia which is horrible for spectators around the Soccer fields. If someone could fix the Poinsettia soccer Exhibit 6
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Fields/courts field viewing area by putting cement sitting platforms into the grass hills (to pit lawn chairs etc).
A youth sports complex for soccer, lx, and other sports. No need for grass, just turf would be great since you don't have to restripe the fields. Plus grass needs lots of maintenance, can't play in the rain, etc.
Soccer fields and pickleball courts!!!!!!!
Soccer fields and sports complex, fields with lights. A central concession stand the teams can run and make money. A shaded playground to promote motor development in our young children. Robertson Ranch provides the perfect space to help improve Carlsbad youth sports and development.
Soccer fields! There are so many kids loving youth soccer with not enough fields to play on! They are squished for practice and often at school fields which isn't great for helping the school maintain their fields. A multi-field complex is so so needed! A pool for all the waterpolo and swim teams and clubs would be awesome as well! Thanks! Carlsbad needs more SOCCER fields!! Please support youth sports and kids in our wonderful community. Soccer fields that are sized 11 v 11 can accommodate multiple sports, including soccer, rugby, lacrosse, flag football, etc. Carlsbad needs soccer fields at Robertson Ranch Park!
Hi all, I hope all is well, we need to do the best for the community and the kids that will be the future of our community and country. Carlsbad needs more Soccer Fields! When kids are in sports, they are out of trouble. Our community needs more multi-purpose fields. I am talking as a father, soccer lover, and soccer Coach. 11v11 multi-purpose fields can be used for a lot of different sports. Sports are life! Thank you!
Carlsbad is definitely in need of more fields that can be used for multi sports, like soccer, lacrosse, football and can be built to field baseball, softball. There are far too many children that lack the proper space for practicing and playing games. Youth sports is a great way to keep kids healthy, mentally and physically and Carlsbad should be catering to this. If the fields could be built with walking trails around them, it would be useful for physical activity for those visiting the park.
More soccer fields needed. A multi-sports complex would be a much needed solution to the lack of available fields for teams and leagues.
Prefer a MULTI FIELD SOCCER COMPLEX
Looking for more soccer fields
A multi-sport complex with multiple turf soccer fields and ample space for parents to sit and watch the games. We NEED more SOCCER fields in Carlsbad. Please consider how many kids and adults would love to be involved in a soccer league, but the field availability is limiting the opportunities.
I won't speak for the original post, but City SC is a business and their interest is financial. They are rallying their extensive base of parents to comment on a local development project because it would benefit their business model. I believe the residents of Robertson Ranch Exhibit 6
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Fields/courts should have the largest say in this development and not be "swarmed" by posts and votes from folks outside the neighborhood with no impact to their own neighborhood.
There are only TWO dedicated soccer fields in Carlsbad (Poinsettia Park and Aviara Park) The City of Carlsbad does not have a multi-field soccer complex. This would make Robertson Ranch unique to every other park in the City.
Participation in youth soccer is at an all time high. City SC alone has over 4,300 kids in our program.
There is a critical need for more soccer fields in the City of Carlsbad to accommodate the growing number of kids playing soccer, rugby, lacrosse, flag football, etc.-- Soccer , pickle ball, baseball fields.
We need more soccer fields!!!!
Please add a multi-sport complex that we can also leverage for events like summer concerts and spectacles.
Also please consider adding a permanent store for beverages, snacks, fast-food, etc.
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Soccer Fields
SOCCER fields please!
Pickleball courts with some shade coverings with a playground and layout similar to Encinitas Community Park would be amazing.
More pickleball courts please! 8 more is ideal.
MULTI SPORT SOCCER FIELD - There is a critical need for more soccer fields in the City of Carlsbad to accommodate the growing number of kids playing soccer, rugby, lacrosse, flag football, etc.-- all of these sports can be played on a regulation sized 11v11 soccer field.
MULTI SPORT SOCCER FIELD - There is a critical need for more soccer fields in the City of Carlsbad to accommodate the growing number of kids playing soccer, rugby, lacrosse, flag football, etc.-- all of these sports can be played on a regulation sized 11v11 soccer field. The popularity and number of participants of youth sports in the city of Carlsbad far outweigh the need for any dog or pickle ball courts. Our City could be hosting bigger tournaments and drawing more tourism money this way.
Pickleball Courts would help relieve the over crowded courts at Poinsettia park. The courts there have long wait times to play, additional courts would not only relieve the pressure, but serve the community well in getting people out in the fresh air, enjoying a healthy lifestyle.
It seems like if there’s such a big need, the soccer clubs should build the soccer fields themselves. Just like volleyball clubs pay for their facilities. The tax payer should not pay the bill to build facilities for privately run clubs.
A multipurpose sports park would be ideal. I think there should be more indoor pickle ball courts somewhere else in warehouses that aren’t being used. You can hold concerts, fairs, carnival’s at a multi purpose sports park with adequate parking and a kids area and dog park.
People can even walk their pets or just go for a walk around the park.
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Fields/courts MULTI SPORT + SOCCER FIELD - There is a critical need for more soccer fields in the City of Carlsbad to accommodate the growing number of kids playing soccer, rugby, lacrosse, flag football, etc.-- all of these sports can be played on a regulation sized 11v11 soccer field. The popularity and number of participants of youth sports in the city of Carlsbad support a sports field project of this scope and size.
We drive for competitive soccer games to all possible cities. 4300 kids deserve to have more soccer fields in their community.
Carlsbad has many community parks for recreational needs but only 2 parks has designated soccer fields.
BASEBALL FIELDS! LIGHTED BALL FIELDS.
SOCCER HAS TAKEN OVER EVERY INCH OF SPACE AT EVERY FIELD AROUND TOWN. LEAVES OTHER SPORTS LEFT WITH NOTHING.
I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS FUTURE COMMUNITY PARK AND WE NEED MORE BALL FIELDS.
When you look at the amount and size of flat land still available around Carlsbad, the current availability of sports fields as well as the demographics of the city (i.e., growing young families) it seems the best option for this parcel of land is multi-sport / soccer type sports fields. While there are some options in south Carlsbad, this part of Carlsbad in particular is underserved.
We love the multi use fields in Carlsbad, but there are not enough for soccer and baseball.
And once there, never enough parking!
Multi use sports fields and playground!! I love poinsettia for the reason that families with multiple kids can take them to practice while the youngest play. Much needed for young families.
Soccer fields!! Carlsbad youth needs more fields to play. Would love to see some shaded areas for spectators and a playground for younger children to enjoy.
There seems to be enough space for a baseball field and at least one soccer field. Natural grass fields, please, no more turf in Carlsbad! Poinsettia is a great park with great paths, walks, and views. Duplicate that, but add integrated spectator seating and more shade, and you could have a perfect park. Also, I think we have enough dog parks. The new one at Poinsettia is an eyesore at the entrance and really changed the whole park's dynamic.
Soccer fields please!!
There is so much youth in Carlsbad and Soccer Field space is so limited. Would love to see more soccer fields! Grass, not turf, would be even better! Thank you! Pickleball courts and a leash free dog park
1) grass field
2) baseball diamond
3) pickleball
4) playground
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Fields/courts 5) small outdoor gym w/ the essentials (pull ups, dips, rows) 6) outdoor basketball
Other thoughts/ideas: lots of foliage, lacrosse wall ball, Turf Soccer fields! Playground… concessions….
A baseball field with a lot of lighting/lots of shade, next to a playground and a multi sports field with must needed bathrooms… would be awesome!
We desperately need more soccer fields to support our youth clubs. With more and more young athletes getting into this sport, we need safe fields where they can practice year round with bathrooms available. Thank you!
Please more soccer fields with lighting. I also love the idea of a walkable/runnable area.
We really need more soccer fields in Carlsbad! There are so many youth getting into soccer and there’s just not enough fields in the area to support the numbers.
There seems to be a deluge of comments about soccer fields (and other youth sports related suggestions) with similar wording & phrases. Can it be that this is due to organized efforts among sports teams/leagues/families to flood the idea wall with posts? I am concerned that this crowding out other ideas will skew the results and leave us other park- loving constituents and demographic groups on the sidelines.
I agrée. There are not enough pickle ball courts and a dog park would be great Have you ever seen a Carlsbad soccer field not in use?
It's impossible to get field space & teams are crowded on our existing fields day & night. Carlsbad = Soccer
More soccer fields & more playgrounds keeps everyone outside, happy & healthy! Pickleball and shade! All ages are playing and Poinsettia Park wait times are long and hot with only partial shade. I do see the EV parking slots are always in use, so more of those too.
If you want soccer field rent them from the schools. I don't want our quiet neighborhood turned into noise lights and confusion.
The city of Carlsbad is in desperately need of additional soccer fields. Our kids are practicing on top of each other in a space not suitable for their development. The number of kids playing rugby, lacrosse, flag football, soccer, etc. is at all time high, we need the space for practices and tournaments.
Hi, Neighbors. I've attached ChatGPT's suggested layout for multi-purpose sports fields at Robertson Ranch Park.
Go, Carlsbad!
Thanks,
Tom
I would like to see Baseball and soccer fields to take the traffic from the business park recreational Facility (zone 5). This park has never been completed. Parking area not used and people off roading on the hill.
More baseball and multi-purpose turf fields
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Fields/courts Basketball courts, multi-purpose fields for practices! The Chase Baseball fields that are managed by the city need repairing & not more fields. Parking is my biggest concern living in RR already. We don't need any additional kids play structures as there are already 8 within Robertson Ranch & Foothills.
It would be great to have 𝗣𝗣𝗣𝗣𝗣𝗣𝗣𝗣𝗣𝗣 (fast growing sport in the world) and Pickleball courts added.
Soccer is such a huge part of our community in Carlsbad. For many kids, it's the primary form of outdoor time including recreation and fitness. Soccer is so critical to the mental and physical health of our kids and they need more space and options. My son wants to play soccer with his friends and practice more frequently with me but options are painfully limited. Many if not most people in Carlsbad have very small backyard spaces that are not suitable so public space for is desperately needed.
Venue for music concerts
Multi-use sports fields (soccer)
Investing in kids' soccer fields is an investment in the health, well-being, and future of the community. It promotes physical activity, fosters social interaction, strengthens community bonds, and offers economic and educational benefits. By planning for more soccer fields, a city demonstrates its commitment to the holistic development of its youth and the overall improvement of residents' quality of life. And hosting youth soccer events and tournaments generates revenue for the city (tourism).
I fully agree with the Padel suggestion and open to Pickleball if indoor. My main concerns are noise and the stadium lighting. It's only a matter of time before Padel takes hold and it would be nice to have a non-private club for folks to try it out and be on the front end. Much quieter than Pickleball, but would still recommend the majority of courts be indoor.
That is exactly what City SC did. They email blasted all of their parents (many of whom don't live near RR) and asked them to advocate for soccer fields. "Flooding the zone" if you will. I'm fine if folks are advocating for "kids health" as a focus, which I agree with, but I'm lost when someone says Soccer is more beneficial to a child's health than Flag Football or Water Polo.
I think we need more soccer fields as we are facing over crowding on the current school venues for this ever growing game!
NEED MORE SOCCER FIELDS AND PICKLE-BALL COURTS AS EVERY CITY IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY HAS OR ARE IN PROCESS OF ADDRESSING THESE MOST POPULAR 2 SPORTS AND NOTHING HAS GROWN MORE THAN THESE 2 SPORTS IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. SO LET CARLSBAD BE A
VISIONARY CITY AND LOOK AT OCEANSIDE THAT HAVE THE SOCAL SOCCER COMPLEX WITH AS MUCH AS 22 FIELDS THAT GENERATES TON OF MONEY FOR TOURISM AND LOCAL FUSSINESS, PLUS ARE KIDS GET TO PLAY SOMEWHERE LOCALLY AND SAFE.
This new park should include anything that promotes outdoor activities. Local soccer fields are already over crowded, forcing locals to drive our kids up to Norco or Temecula to play local teams, ridiculous. We should not be putting turf in anywhere, anymore. Our future generations are playing on these toxic fields day after day, so it defeats the purpose of Exhibit 6
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Fields/courts keeping this community healthy. Lastly, parking needs to be a priority, so the parking doesn't overflow into surrounding neighborhoods.
Kids/parents from all over San Diego County are choosing to play on sports teams (soccer etc) in Carlsbad. With so many kids/teams we need more multi-sport fields to support the community demand.
We need indoor and outdoor basketball courts for the kids!
A dog park would be a great additional.
A community pool would be great as well.
Our youth need need more indoor Basketball courts (w/ A/C) to use daily after school and on weekends. It seems the one at Pine and Calavera are always booked by pickle ball and badminton.
Families would love to use a community swim pool for swimming laps and playing.
A dog park would be great as well.
Thanks!
A soccer field because there is a huge number of kids playing soccer in our community.
Soccer is likely the fastest growing youth sport in the US, and Carlsbad is a hotbed of talent.
Let's support this growing passion and the health of our kids by providing a new home for soccer practices and games.
I'd really like to see another "Chase Field" built to accomodate the growing amounts of kids that play youth baseball in Carlsbad in both club and rec. There's already so many kids playing rec baseball the city is split into two orgs- Carlsbad Youth Baseball and La Costa Youth. CYB has Chase Field, but LCYO has never had a "home field" with different fields to support the different age groups of Pony Baseball. Nice fields can bring in a ton of money hosting tournaments throughout the year
MORE BASEBALL FIELDS PLEASE! Youth baseball continues to be a growing sport. In North County there is over 1,000 seasonal players in addition to all the travel teams, and continues to grow. We currently have to share a lot of the fields with soccer, lacrosse, football, etc. We could really use a great ballpark with seating, lighting, and shade.
More baseball fields please.
Would love to see more baseball fields and kids playground areas! Southern California is the mecca for youth baseball talent development; the more we can do to facilitate and grow that, the better opportunities they will have to compete in High School Sports, College athletics, and beyond!
For the past four seasons, Carlsbad Softball Association had to close registration within days of being open due to lack of field space. There are so many girls that want to play softball but unfortunately, there aren't enough fields to accommodate all of them.
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Fields/courts I believe that the City of Carlsbad should consider its park design to allocate more space for baseball fields, which will benefit not only our league but also the entire North County community.
No baseball fields due to limited available space to properly separate any rouge baseballs from going into the adjacent busy road (El Camino), protected habitat reserve (can impact animals and vegetation) and residential homes. Baseball fields will cause more issues in the long run.
Soccer fields.
This is a hotbed city for talent.
Let the kids develop.
Can double as flag football which is big too.
Sports/recreational complex, baseball/softball fields. Similar to mission sports park potentially. Multi purpose sports outdoor activities.
Yes! I 1000% agree. We could then host tournaments and bring revenue to the community.
Yes! I couldn't agree more. We need a dedicated baseball/softball facility- whether it is this location or repurposing a different park.
What would make Carlsbad unique is to not add more fuel to the sports factory mentality and, instead, create a multi-discipline sports facility for youth AND adults which could include an aquatics center (water polo, swimming/diving), indoor Pickleball/Padel (takes stadium lights out of play and noise under control), indoor bouldering/climbing, and surround the facility with dog parks, bike trails to reduce need for parking and mass traffic impacts every hour on the hour.
Hi, Would you consider adding more softball fields for youth and adult softball. LCYO keeps getting squeezed out of fields and practice time do to soccer and lacrosse year round. This is unfair to our end of the community that doesn’t have equal access to softball fields and batting cages etc. It also puts Carlsbad at a competitive disadvantage to other surrounding cities that have exclusive use softball facilities where they can practice year around and host tournaments etc. thank you.
A nice park like the one Encinitas put in off the freeway with soccer fields would be great.
Families keep coming and soccer is huge in Carlsbad and yet we do not have any quality grass soccer fields, especially in north county where the city wants to add the most high density housing. This location is good being close to the freeway. If not here than build it on the old smokestack with ocean view and great freeway access…that would be my first choice! Why should it “not be the case” that you leave the city daily to play Pickleball? And you don’t even need to leave - there’s a Pickleball club at the Carlsbad mall.
The City of Carlsbad should consider its park design to allocate more space for baseball fields, which will benefit the entire North County community. LCYO has over 1000 players alone.
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Fields/courts Any consideration of building pickleball courts should only include indoor, soundproof courts.
The noise nuisance created by this game is off the chart for anyone living within earshot. We are living proof of what happens when this is not done.
A series of softball fields that can be used for a growing need for young girls and young ladies. The need for youth sports will help our youth combat obesity and screen time.
Baseball/Softball has 1,000 players and Soccer has 4,000 players yet Baseball/Softball has 18 diamonds: (3 diamonds at Stagecoach, 3 at Alga Norte, 3 at Poinsettia, 1 at Aviara, 1 at Zone 5, 3 at Chase, 1 at Pine, 3 at Calavera).
Soccer has 2 fields: Aviara and Poinsettia.
Please build facilities in line with your constituent’s needs.
Thank you.
Soccer fields don’t benefit the entire community. They only benefit those who play soccer.
It’s clear that baseball, softball and soccer parents were told to overwhelm this message board with requests for even more sports fields in Carlsbad. The City of Carlsbad doesn’t have a single park devoted to passive recreation. To be a truly diverse, non discriminating city, we need at least one passive park for kids and adults who don’t play soccer, baseball, or other club sports.
It’s clear that baseball, softball and soccer parents were told to overwhelm this message board with requests for even more sports fields in Carlsbad. The City of Carlsbad doesn’t have a single park devoted to passive recreation. To be a truly diverse city that supports all tax payers’ interests, we need at least one passive park for kids and adults who don’t play soccer, baseball, or other club sports.
Agreed. If folks want to play Pickleball, there’s a great club right up the road at the Carlsbad Shopps.
There’s a Pickleball club just up the street at the mall and a dog park at Agua Norte. Ideas like these only ruin the quality of life for those homes and families right by the park.
I agree with this statement. The size of this park is not conducive to one or multiple baseball diamond(s). I feel that this park should be geared to multi-generational passive use with rolling hills that blend in with the surrounding nature preserve. I want to point out that there is a large aging generation here in Carlsbad and I feel that a passive park with amenities will be beneficial to the surrounding community and neighboring senior housing at Rancho Carlsbad & Casa Aldea.
This type of baseball diamond use is way too large for the acreage available at the proposed park site. There would be little to no space for other types of uses serving different types of people. This would also cause major traffic/parking issues on El Camino, Cannon, and within the adjacent community. The lights would impact the surrounding protected habitat migration patterns and neighboring homes. I do not feel that baseball would be the best choice for this park.
Soccer/multi-use field would be preferable over baseball. If there is a need regionally in North County for more baseball fields, it should be done somewhere else. Carlsbad does not Exhibit 6
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No baseball diamonds.
Both City SC and CYB email blasted EVERYONE in their database with links to this site to request their specific activity. That should not be allowed as they reach players outside to Carlsbad.
4000 soccer players? Seems super high. I see that there are a lot of sports participants on this forum, but most of Carlsbad residents don’t play sports or have kids that play sports, so saying that a sports facility meets the needs of all constituents seems disingenuous. But I do understand that people are just looking after their own needs.
This is a bad location for a baseball field due to its proximity to busy streets (El Camino & Cannon) and residential homes.
Baseball with lots of lighting will negatively affect the adjacent protected preserve and quiet neighborhood. No large field lights, please.
Carlsbad is in desperate need of more pools and soccer fields! Our kids practice their sports so late into the evening because of the lack of space and high demand of these spaces! Stop turf fields! They are toxic to our environment and children.
Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Environment Agree, open green space to be enjoyed by those who do not play sports are desperately needed in our parks. This can be done without adding light pollution or noise. For those already near the firehouse and the apartments let’s not add to the issues.
Rusty Keeler is an amazing outdoor education expert who works not only for preschools and schools, but in public places as well. He has amazing unique ideas and his books are terrific.
However, if you invested in his expertise even for a day or so, you could really get some amazing ide
Important to famliles:
1. Space for infants and toddlers
2. Natural elements like water, mud, trees, gardens, places to sit and dream
3. Places where kids can take a risk and learn how to do it
5. Musical space
Open freeform natural space, where people can walk, play, gather, and rest, and enjoy our unique coastal climate, flora and fauna. A community commons that is not dedicated to any one sport, where one can go any time to take a break, exercise, and pursue well-being.
Just do NOT plant carrotwood trees. It is a messy tree. We have a mature tree in our front yard and have sent tons of seeds in the compost.
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Environment Park is too small to be a Community Park and thus those more active uses would not be suitable. Incorporate those uses into Veteran's Park which will come on line much sooner than this site. The vacant site is currently used as a de facto dog park, running / walking trail and is enjoyed by all. Consider the traffic impacts that more active uses will generate.This site clearly cannot clearly mitigate for that. Also, HCP lands are adjacent to this property and do not need to be stressed.
I'd like the park to be a large green space with plenty of shade trees, walking paths, picnic tables, playground area, workout path... NO athletic/sports fields, skate park or dog park.
Vehicle entrance/parking to be off El Camino Real, not thru the Foothills neighborhood. Be mindful of neighbors bordering the property with regards to lighting.
Would love to see some nature/wilderness inspired play areas. A small manmade stream with clean water & small bridges for kids to play in, large rocks to climb and play on, maybe even some sort of hut/village for kids to play make believe games? (Like the children’s play village at wild animal park by petting zoo area). Would love a safe park to come explore nature and play with my daughter. Walking paths. Benches in beautiful spaces to sit & ponder or read a book. Bathrooms. Shade
Native plant landscaping, please no pickleball-it’s way too loud. Maybe a dog area, and some nice walking paths through local flora. Extra tennis courts would certainly get used a lot as well. Food truck area for local businesses would be nice as well.
Lots of trees, a kids dream! Artistic labyrinths with mosaics of different colors on the ground, Climbing walls, little tunnels, water elements that are interactive. Wooden bridges that lead to learning areas that speak to the ecosystem and fun facts about our local wildlife. Circle tables and seating areas. Lots of shade, love the Jacaranda idea the violet flowers are very inspiring. Playground that doesn't use sand... I feel animals/cats appreciate it more than moms do.
Would love to see seating that’s actually comfortable so you can spend a relaxing time enjoying nature or reading a book without ruining your back. Trails for walking lined with native plants would be great and a dog park would be wonderful. There absolutely needs to be a public restroom. Habitats that attract birds and butterflies would be a great touch, so everyone young and old can enjoy nature. So many parks are focused only on sports or kids, we could use more spaces welcoming to everyone.
Keep it open space with a pathway around the perimeter. This is how the neighboring residents have already been using it. Carlsbad is becoming overly developed and we lack natural habitats and space. I walk this area a few times a week and enjoy seeing the birds, bunnies and wildlife.
Please DO NOT add sports field. We already have enough around Carlsbad, and that’s coming from me, a soccer mom.
I’m also worried about traffic on this small street right in front of a major fire station.
Native plants, water features, walking path, benches, shade trees, hammocks, adirondacks and some cool local art sculptures. No more sports fields, too much already and we don’t Exhibit 6
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As little concrete as possible; as many trees as possible. Perhaps a tiny forest with winding walking path - https://www.tinyecohomelife.com/what-is-tiny-forest No sports complex. Simple games such as bocce ball. No pickle ball courts - put those somewhere w/ enough capacity & where noise won't be a problem for everyone else.
Keep the no dog park plan. A community garden designed where people can garden together and many more people could garden not just a few plot owners. Nature and art.
No more turf. It's terrible in nearly every way.
I agree that grass would be nice instead of turf.
This park should have nature featured as a main theme and be low impact to our environment. Walking paths, parcourse for exercise, trees, use of native plants, and areas for picnicking. NO artificial turf. Artificial lighting kept minimal. Walkability and biking to this park should be a priority. Needs to be compliant with our Climate Action Plan. As a relatively small park, large footprint activities such as a dog park, baseball diamonds and soccer fields should not be included.
A nature element water feature for children/ adults to play in. Natural exploration that pulls in Carlsbad’s beach and canyon heritage.
Would love to see protected habitat & residential home buffers along with limited or no field lights. The surrounding protected habitat & adjacent residential homes should have some sort of buffers. Any tall field lights will impact the protected environment & possible migration/ breeding patterns of animals directly adjacent to the new park site. Additionally, bright tall field lighting could impact/impair drivers on El Camino directly west of the park site.
Maybe a part of the park can become a refuge like you can see at Swamis Encinitas with beautiful trees and shrubs, a koi pond, seating in quiet corners. It would take some time to grow in, but it would become a peaceful haven for those seeking it.
Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Other amenities Carlsbad was home to one of the worlds first skateparks, honor that history & start including small skateable spaces in our parks! Look at Olympus or the Vulcan street park in Leucadia to see how a small and simple skate-friendly spot is inclusive and fun for our parks.
Grass fields for sports would be a nice addition and alternative to turf fields.
I’d love to see shaded areas with trees for picnicking. How about an area for local food, vendors or food trucks to come in? Water features and fountains. Ornamental gardens.
Bocce ball courts.
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compact dirt paths throughout (asphalt only for parking) drought tolerant and native plantings only with info signage concrete picnic benches and barbeques
splashing fountain area
dog park
carefully placed lighting
minimal grass, but some innovative material for picnicking ranger security 24/7
Park is too small to be a Community Park and thus those more active uses would not be suitable. Incorporate those uses into Veteran's Park which will come on line much sooner than this site. The vacant site is currently used as a de facto dog park, running / walking trail and is enjoyed by all. Consider the traffic impacts that more active uses will generate.This site clearly cannot clearly mitigate for that. Also, HCP lands are adjacent to this property and do not need to be stressed.
Community Gardens are in short supply...I've been on the list for a few years and am currently number 280. I'm not very optimistic about getting a garden plot in my lifetime.
Community Gardens are a place where families with children can learn important lessons and are a venue where community members can socialize and exchange ideas.
In the city which is building so many condos that have no land, it would be a good idea to offer a place to grow things. This is part of Carlsbad's heritage.
There are so many sports parks around, but I find it hard to find peaceful parks focused on casual walking paths through beautiful landscape and grassy areas for picnics. Places that people of all ages can enjoy. Most walking paths are either hiking trails that are not inclusive for seniors or folks with disabilities or they are adjacent to busy city streets that are loud and smell of exhaust. We are clearly overlooking an unmet community need.
I agree! A pump track like the one at Ronald Reagan Sports Park in Temecula would be great (the Pacific Highland Ranch one is really small). Surrounded by mature trees and lots of shade, it will be an area for our older kiddos to hang out and use their skateboards and regular bikes again. It was a space where I saw older kiddos helping the younger ones have fun on their bikes. It was heartwarming to see!
A skate/scooter park for little kids separate from big kids. My little one loves the skate park, but it be nice to have something dedicated to little kids separate from the big kids. Dogs get parks separated by size why not kids. Haha.
Also a garden with a path for kids/family’s/seniors to walk through full of native plants.
Where kids can learn and explore. A bonus would be to add some native milkweed for monarchs, and other host plants for pollinators.
we would like to see ping pong tables, badminton, bocce ball, quiet sports instead of large noisy athletic sports as is everywhere in North County. We are looking for a peaceful, Exhibit 6
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Other amenities beautiful space, grass, trees, flowers, picnic tables, walking paths, water fountain, NO dogs or bikes. lots of shade and sun
Love the idea. An outdoor gym was something I wanted to propose. Imperial Beach has several outdoor gyms at their parks, as well. Lots of opportunities to see how this has been done on other local communities.
A really cool bike track would be awesome with a cement track with road signs and bridges, just like a real roadway for kids.
Another idea is a big pirate ship or treehouse or cool feature that kids can play in. This is a picture of Echo Run Park in Woodbridge Irvine
I'd love to see a ping pong table. Such a fun game, easy to learn. There are basically no public ping pong tables in San Diego County. The Forum has one which appears to be temporary and is very popular with visitors.
Carlsbad needs a place for inline hockey and roller skating. This would be an ideal place to create an outdoor roller hockey rink like the one in MLK park in Oceanside. Or a covered one like Kit Carson in Escondido.
Veterans park just down the street is already set to be a bike park with pump track, and will be developed in advance of this park. So your wish has been granted! We have skateparks in Carlsbad though… and often the ones we have the kids have no supervision. The kids often bully kids, say inappropriate things etc. Let’s have something that more kids can enjoy without those negatives
ping pong tables in partial shade, badminton, bocce ball, picnic tables, water fountain with seating, walking running trails...NO DOGS OR BIKES OR SPORTS that bring in loud groups.
Beautiful ornamental grounds, flowers, trees etc. Bressie ranch is beautiful A bike/scooter trac for different levels of ability. There’s a great one in Temecula at Ronald Regan park.
A disc golf course would be incredible. It could 9 or 18 hole. It’s an inexpensive addition and a great way to walk and exercise. Mini golf course.
A place for food trucks and beer garden.
Trees trees tress!
Bike pump track would be great for kids and families.
We would love a pump track like the Pacific Highlands Ranch Pump Track they have in San Diego! and we would also welcome a skate park :)
What about some rudimentary outdoor fitness equipment? Does anyone think this would be used? I was impressed at how many people use the fitness areas in Mission Bay (San Diego) and wondered whether this would be attractive for Carlsbad.
Great suggestion. I support a fitness course as well
I have spoken to many Carlsbad friends and neighbors about it, and we all agree that there are almost no places with flat land that allow roller skating or rollerblading in our city. One may argue that you can use skate parks, but unless you are learning tricks, skate parks are not a good fit for beginners or roller skaters who want to safely glide on flat surfaces. I have Exhibit 6
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I love walking past that take you all around the park so you can see and appreciate the diversity in the way people play and have fun with each other. This is better than a walking path that just stays in one part of the park.
I would welcome a disc golf course and outdoor amphitheater.
I would like to see an area that could be used for outdoor rollerskating.
Please build an actual park, a space for everyone - not just athletes! Every other park in Carlsbad is for sports. A green space would support all citizens - with trees, picnic areas, walking paths, gardens. A space where kids who don’t do sports can go hang out, a place for seniors who may have limited backyard space can enjoy our perfect weather. Please be respectful of the folks whose backyards back up to the new park by not building a park that creates noise and light pollution.
Trails!!!
SPLASH PAD or water play area.
Our grandkids in St. George, Ut, have lots of great splash pads to play in at their parks, and they love it!… and so do the parents! That would be awesome here, too!! I wish we could replace the little commercial tract that was torn down Life’s Rad in Carlsbad.
Pottery, garden supply. Quick stop. M ini mart Gas station.
I know this is not popular but others have mentioned the need.
Olympus park is awesome however they fail in my book by not having restrooms. Encinitas Community Park is a favorite for our family because the whole playground is in shade, is surrounded with benches for parents, has large expanses of open real grass areas that aren’t fields for sports and has restrooms with ample parking. We love Alga Norte but the play equipment gets WAY too hot. A splash pad similar to Sunset Park in San Marcos would be a great add as well.
Already have this nearby at Calavera Hills Park. It was completed recently on corner of Carlsbad Village Drive.
I would love to see a playground that is an inclusive space and designed to accommodate the needs of our neuro-diverse population (i.e., autism) as well as kids with physical limitations (i.e., in a wheel chair). Too often, these groups are unable to enjoy our playgrounds because they were not designed to take their needs into consideration. Designing an inclusive playground would meet the needs of all of Carlsbad's kids and give an opportunity for everyone to enjoy the outdoors.
How about a Rainbow Bridge where pet owners can attach a momento (like a collar, harness, leash) to the rails of the bridge? I saw that there is one in North Carolina. Just google a real life Rainbow Bridge. Rainbow Bridge is the famous poem of saying goodbye and honoring our furry loved ones. I attached a picture from the one in North Carolina.
I think something like this, could be a good addition to Carlsbad, especially if it included equipment that could be used by our senior population, and people with physical challenges.
I think that would be a great way to bring the community together as well. That said, I think Exhibit 6
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Other amenities the photo of the facility in Mission Bay is pretty ugly actually. I would hope that Carlsbad could focus on something that blends in with a natural environment better.
I second your suggestion of an inclusive playground. Here's a spectacular example of what is possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGasFrDHSvg
Along the same lines but not as water/care intensive: how about a restorative space like a walkable labyrinth (either a tiled mosaic or perhaps simply sand & rock). Or a sand Zen garden with benches to relax.
Check out "A playground for everyone, no matter your age or ability" on Youtube. It shows a playground in Palo Alto that is truly world class. Carlsbad's new park could be a magnet for the entire region!
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I’d like to see a wave pool just big enough to get beginning kids comfortable and confident they can ride. It doesn’t have to be large to accommodate skilled surfers, just something to train beginning kids. I’m
Would love part of the park to be a fun outdoor adventure park like Adventure Playground in Irvine. It’s designed for all ages with tons of things to do, areas for kids of all abilities to play, get dirty, connect and be outside in nature.
Or a fun park like Olympus Park in Encinitas (love the grass hill and the zip line) just WITH bathrooms.
In the other part add Pickleball courts & an open grass space with benches & covered space for people to gather and connect, especially seniors.
It is important to continue to have an area for kids to play and be outdoors. Adventure playground would be awesome. A place for everyone to bring their dogs. Most importantly more Pickleball courts. It is great for all ages to gather together and build new relationships and enjoy the outdoors. There should be courts for different levels.
I travel for work and every city I go to has long looping trails to run. This city has none. Not one trail that is safe /out and back/ long trail.
Hello! I don't really have enough space here, but here's my main feedback.
I really want this park to be UNIQUE. We have enough playgrounds/play structures and sports fields.
I want a park that...well... actually looks like a park.
Rolling hills, tree-covered (maybe redwood ) DG paths, boulders placed to give the feel you're out in nature.
maybe even
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A dog park. There are so many new homes going up and so many of us have dogs we need to socialize and exercise. Its a great way to meet neighbors and let our dogs mingle and exercise at the end of a day or anytime.
The recent Encinitas park that was constructed does have a dog Park in it and it is very popular with the neighborhood.
We currently take our dogs there but to have one right here in Carlsbad would be fantastic.
Please include a running track and a fitness area with pull-up bars, monkey bars, TRX, etc. A soccer field would be nice as well.
Would like to see an all weather running track with low level lights that could service all ages.
The Trails are fabulous in Carlsbad but you frequently have to share with bikes and it is not safe when this happens. The area could also include some fun creative fitness equipment built for adults. The County has some very fun equipment down at the county building on harbor drive.
Dog park with areas for small dogs and large dogs. Benches to sit on also.. shade trees in those areas would be beneficial. Just as people want places for their kids in the park, dog owners would like to have places for their pets. No noisy sports fields...there are plenty here in Carlsbad and it would be nice to have a quiet park.... keep the pickleball courts far away from residential areas and quiet places in the park.
Dog friendly areas, quiet, shady areas, a running track, and a skating park would be so uniquely Carlsbad! What about an area for food vendors? We have so many awesome businesses in Carlsbad, it would be fun to have city-led events to support them.
The small skateable spaces (especially bowls and flow courses) don’t draw the same riffraff and bullying you find at Alga Norte. Quite the opposite actually. The key is in designating a small but fun space rather than a huge skatepark. It would literally require less than an acre of space and little to no maintenance.
The only other Carlsbad skatepark (Orion near the police station) is poorly designed and not a functional space.
If ever there was something we don’t need; please consider speaking to someone at out pools or beaches who might offer you good recommendations Dog friendly walking paths and plenty of trees and sitting areas with water features. Pickle ball or tennis courts . Someplace relaxing that won’t be too noisy for neighbors. And please please please keep it well maintained and safe without risk of homeless.
Shade trees, walking path, Pickleball.
Draw it into the community with a place for a food truck, lots of shade (which is rare for the city), chairs and benches positioned for quiet conversation, some gardening plots near the Exhibit 6
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Well, simple, peaceful and elegant. Low stimulation. I have in mind a small park I came across a few months ago in Frankfurt, Germany. Walking paths, shade trees, a fountain and some nice artwork. Some place safe for kids to socialize at minus the noisy sports. Maybe some orange trees? Otherwise native California fauna. Drinking fountains and maybe a small amphitheater, kiosk, plenty of benches and tables. Gardens, Art of some kind. Emergency phone? Large, securely locking, clean restrooms.
A safe place to run. An all weather track would be a fantastic addition to Carlsbad parks and useable for all ages and abilities. As a mom to two girls I would love for them to be able to run
in an open, unsecluded area that is not along the roadway.
Separate dog parks for large and small/old dogs with shade, water, natural landscaping.
Strategies to keep the area clean (frequent trash pick-up, etc.)
Running track
Live music events with food truck vendors and picnic lawn area
Pagodas for shade, picnic benches, activities, gathering spaces, areas that can be reserved for events
Basketball courts (not double-rim)
Please include a space for outdoor roller skating. This is something that doesn't already exist in any Carlsbad park.
Design shade and heat tolerance into it (water features, trees, shade sails).
More than the usual playground stuff (places to hide/climb/interact/pretend/engage/water features).
Make park accessible from El Camino/Canon side.
Incorporate trails that connects to existing trails on the north side.
We have a dog park right here in Carlsbad - Agua Norte.
The Pacific is a great alternative to splash parks!
activities for smaller children {climbing areas, bridges, etc.). native plants, if there are sports fields, daylight use only, no lights park closes at sunset (many games for the younger set are daytime anyway i.e., pop warner, little league, soccer). bathrooms get locked at sunset. This, in addition to rethinking the access/egress, would be preferable for the neighborhood. Trees and or pagodas for shade, drinking fountains, picnic tables and a nice water feature.
That’s interesting about the 5G towers, I thought they were permanent. Do you know where they’re meant to be once they’re moved?
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Batiquitos Dr., Melrose Dr., Plaza Paseo Real, etc. have many jacaranda trees that bloom in the late spring/early summer, giving the environment a fantastically delightful vision. I suggest to spread this visual joy at each park by planting these jacarandas to signify the symbol of Carlsbad. As a resident, we can refer to this signature with our pride. please add a public swimming pool to the mix.
Thank You.
PLEASE add shade near the playground for parents/caregivers. Not just one table with a pergola, but shade we can actually use while supervising the kiddos. I'm talking multiple benches or tables with shade.
Agree with all except that dog parks are necessary - kids aren't entitled to all the fun!! Dog Parks only require a fenced , shaded grass area and less costly than the equipment needed for the kids section. Give our furry friends a break!!
Dog Parks are needed in all areas of Carlsbad- residents have dogs just as some have kids.
What is the difference ?
The park should be a public space for all people to enjoy, not just rec sports leagues. I don’t see a problem with having a soccer field there, but there should also be open spaces or walking paths for people and pets to enjoy. Also as a dog owner, I would like to see another dog park in Carlsbad.
I am against having any form of hostile architecture in this park, such as benches with armrests in the middle or excluding bathrooms just to inconvenience the most vulnerable members of our community
Art that represents the agricultural history of Carlsbad and the beach. Mosaics on walls and any other hard scape would be great as would sculptures.
Lots of pickleball.
Walking and biking paths.
There’s literally a new dog park at Poinsettia.
1) Covered Roller Hockey Arena. Roof top of structure could be used to support solar panels to power other aspects of the park.
2) Running path/trail. Decomposited granite or other natural materials, not concrete.
Surrounding area is has extensive hills so a flat area for runners/walks would be beneficial.
Does not need to be a track "loop" but can wind itself through fields/structures or even skirt the border of the park area. Can be blanket with natural foliage as well as unique rest benches.
Rollerskating track as a perimeter around the park.
We need more pools. There is a shortage of pools for sports like waterpolo and swim teams.
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Other amenities I agree with this. Mixing up the uses and getting creative with the design would be a nice, solid addition to the city. It would improve the attractiveness and attraction of the sports park, improving it overall.
We need an all weather running track in this park. There are currently no tracks accessible to the public in Carlsbad.
MORE OFF ROAD BIKING PATHS PLUS A PUMP TRACK WE NEED TRAILS AS THE E BIKES HAVE
TAKEN OVER THE ROADS
Carlsbad is a leading area for biotechnology. Creating a biotechnology visitor center and museum would highlight the importance of Carlsbad in America's future.
A standard 400 meter running track, that is open to the public, is badly needed in Carlsbad.
The future Robertson Ranch park could provide this facility to the running community.
Carlsbad is so family friendly and active. A splash pad would be an awesome add-on to the playground. As well as plenty of picnic space for birthday parties (Hap Magee park, Danville,CA)
I also think having a large open space for community movie nights and farmers markets/fundraising events with GOOD parking would be a great use of space. Not trying to steal the current farmers markets scheduled days but have you tried to park for any of the markets lately? !
More intricate and unique playground structures with adequate shade and a splash pad would be wonderful for our kids! Inspiration like: Maruta Gardner Playground, Olympus Park, Mast Park, and Rancho Mission Canyon Park Ample.
If a sports complex or fields are implemented, please consider ample parking as there is often not enough for tournament visitors and locals.
Carlsbad is cool and unique. An outdoor parcourse for exercise would also be cool and unique. They typically have ten to twelve stations that you race walk or run between and then perform an exercise at each station. Sometimes one station supports multiple exercises.
This could be a very classy amenity to offer our residents.
A beautiful fountain!
And maybe a spray ground.
Also shade areas / benches / tables for picnicking.
Check out San Elijo park - beautiful fountain and tables. (The one in town center across from Starbucks and Sourdough Company).
I'd love to see an all abilities playground. Check out All Together Playground in Orem, Utah https://orem.org/atp/.
Also in favor of running/walking paths with exercise stations.
Include some walking trails and native plants so that it fits into the surrounding preserve area. A water feature like a fountain or some streams safe for little ones to play in on hot days. Basketball courts. Hills rather than a flat area would also be nice Exhibit 6
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Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Other amenities An area for outdoor yoga/ pilates classes that is shaded and could double as a ‘stage’ for small bands/ concerts.
Would love to see a heated community swimming pool/ splash pad, a bike and hiking trail around the park and places to exercise. A shaded park for kids would be awesome. Shaded a bit like the one in Encinitas off Santa fe with some fun play areas like Poinsettia. We would love a community pool the most though- indoor or outdoor so long as heated.
I would like to see a youth/adult appropriate fitness/obstacle outdoor gym infrastructure.
This will be useful for fitness and conditioning type group or individual workouts.
I would like to see amenities that are targeted to multi-generational use. Seniors, 30-40 year old, teens and children. We need to be cognizant of the aging population in Carlsbad. With the elimination of the multi-generational facility at Poinsettia Park, this would serve as an opportunity to implement elements at Robertson Ranch Park. Additionally, the millennial generation is opting for more fur babies rather than children. I think that a dog park element would be fantastic.
Something like Olympus Park in Encinitas with a zipline swing for the kids and the hill for them to slide down on cardboard. An active playground for the kids. Bathrooms included!!! A place the community can come and enjoy with their family.
Open spaces with picnic tables, a sidewalk around the entire perimeter, tennis court, a small clubhouse with a couple of rooms available for event rental, ping pong would be a nice affordable community activity to connect with others, and community garden
Bathrooms, trees and foliage
It would be great to have multigenerational amenities including a clubhouse with restrooms, trails, community garden, a small dog park, sports fields, trees and of course, bird of paradise flowering plants. Multiple entrances.
Q: What ideas do you have to make this park really feel like Carlsbad? Miscellaneous comments
I second your idea. There's a YouTube video titled "Madison's Place - Woodbury, MN - Visit a Playground - Landscape Structures" that shows how well such a space could serve our community.
Awesome suggestions.
Love your ideas!
I absolutely agree with your comments. Carlsbad parks are currently serving athletes - and if we’re going to be an inclusive community, then we need parks for everyone! They are loud and annoying. There is a place for them and it is not in a quiet park- leave them on the sports field parks.
No dogs? how about NO KIDS?? those little brats make too much noise and leave their cookie crumbs and sticky fingers on things everywhere!!!
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Rusty Keeler is an amazing outdoor education expert who works not only for preschools and schools, but in public places as well. He has amazing unique ideas and his books are terrific.
However, if you invested in his expertise even for a day or so, you could really get some amazing ide
Important to famliles:
1. Space for infants and toddlers
2. Natural elements like water, mud, trees, gardens, places to sit and dream
3. Places where kids can take a risk and learn how to do it
5. Musical space
We would love a kid-friendly activity that is interactive and / or a "special" ride or seasonal event, without the financial investment of Legoland. This could add opportunities for summer/part time jobs for local teens, themed birthday parties, family events, etc. Some ideas are interactive sand/water play features, splash pads, ride on train with education about the area/history/habitat or "fishing", dam-building or other imaginative play structures that are tied to local culture/history.
Totally agree!
Agreed! I'm in the same boat.
No just no. You are ruining our quality of life
Yes! I couldn't agree more and I love this design!
Please also buy the empty lot at College and El Camino... it's an excellent location and you could accomodate more of the great ideas on this board for the same neighborhood.
Great ideas that would truly serve our entire community! With a population of around 115,000, that means there are 110,000 other constituents’ needs to consider.
i love this, but not sure there's enough space. also, i heard a wave park going in in oceanside in a few years
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Something like Olympus Park in Encinitas
with a zipline swing for the kids and the hill
for them to slide down on cardboard. An
active playground for the kids. Bathrooms
included!!! A place the community can come
and enjoy with their family.
MORE BASEBALL FIELDS PLEASE! Youth
baseball continues to be a growing sport. In
North County there is over 1,000 seasonal
players in addition to all the travel teams,
and continues to grow. We currently have to
share a lot of the fields with soccer, lacrosse,
football, etc. We could really use a great
ballpark with seating, lighting, and shade.
I would like to see a youth/adult appropriate
fitness/obstacle outdoor gym infrastructure.
This will be useful for fitness and conditioning
type group or individual workouts.
An area for outdoor yoga/ pilates classes that
is shaded and could double as a ‘stage’ for
small bands/ concerts.
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A nature element water feature for children/
adults to play in. Natural exploration that
pulls in Carlsbad’s beach and canyon
heritage.
Hi, Neighbors. I've attached ChatGPT's
suggested layout for multi-purpose sports
fields at Robertson Ranch Park. Go, Carlsbad!
Rusty Keeler is an amazing outdoor
education expert who works not only for
preschools and schools, but in public places
as well. He has amazing unique ideas and his
books are terrific. However, if you invested in
his expertise even for a day or so, you could
really get some amazing ide Important to
famliles: 1. Space for infants and toddlers 2.
Natural elements like water, mud, trees,
gardens, places to sit and dream 3. Places
where kids can take a risk and learn how to
do it 5. Musical space
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Lots of trees, a kids dream! Artistic labyrinths
with mosaics of different colors on the
ground, Climbing walls, little tunnels, water
elements that are interactive. Wooden
bridges that lead to learning areas that speak
to the ecosystem and fun facts about our
local wildlife. Circle tables and seating areas.
Lots of shade, love the Jacaranda idea the
violet flowers are very inspiring. Playground
that doesn't use sand... I feel animals/cats
appreciate it more than moms do.
It would be nice to have a dual use park that
incorporates a couple leisure activity options
such as a pickleball court and putt putt
course similar to
http://popstroke.com t hat
also has a small community center and space
for HOA meetings and other small events.
Please include a running track and a fitness
area with pull-up bars, monkey bars, TRX,
etc. A soccer field would be nice as well.
Would like to see an all weather running
track with low level lights that could service
all ages. The Trails are fabulous in Carlsbad
but you frequently have to share with bikes
and it is not safe when this happens. The
area could also include some fun creative
fitness equipment built for adults. The
County has some very fun equipment down
at the county building on harbor drive.
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Hello! I don't really have enough space here,
but here's my main feedback. I really want
this park to be UNIQUE. We have enough
playgrounds/play structures and sports fields.
I want a park that...well... actually looks like a
park. Rolling hills, tree-covered (maybe
redwood ) DG paths, boulders placed to give
the feel you're out in nature. maybe even 1)
a small meditation garden 2) a creek running
through it with a small bridge 3) a small (4
row) amphitheater email me for more!
Would love part of the park to be a fun
outdoor adventure park like Adventure
Playground in Irvine. It’s designed for all ages
with tons of things to do, areas for kids of all
abilities to play, get dirty, connect and be
outside in nature. Or a fun park like Olympus
Park in Encinitas (love the grass hill and the
zip line) just WITH bathrooms. In the other
part add Pickleball courts & an open grass
space with benches & covered space for
people to gather and connect, especially
seniors.
How about a Rainbow Bridge where pet
owners can attach a momento (like a collar,
harness, leash) to the rails of the bridge? I
saw that there is one in North Carolina. Just
google a real life Rainbow Bridge. Rainbow
Bridge is the famous poem of saying goodbye
and honoring our furry loved ones. I attached
a picture from the one in North Carolina.
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A really cool bike track would be awesome
with a cement track with road signs and
bridges, just like a real roadway for kids.
Another idea is a big pirate ship or treehouse
or cool feature that kids can play in. This is a
picture of Echo Run Park in Woodbridge
Irvine
SPLASH PAD or water play area. Our
grandkids in St. George, Ut, have lots of great
splash pads to play in at their parks, and they
love it!… and so do the parents! That would
be awesome here, too!!
Bike pump track would be great for kids and
families.
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What about some rudimentary outdoor
fitness equipment? Does anyone think this
would be used? I was impressed at how
many people use the fitness areas in Mission
Bay (San Diego) and wondered whether this
would be attractive for Carlsbad.
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Emailed comments
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 10:16 PM
To: Council Internet Email <[email protected]> Subject: Robertson Ranch
This makes sense - put something healthy and truly useable that has an inter-generational function in the available space - a dozen or more pickleball courts. Carlsbad is sorely lacking in public pickleball courts.
Be smart AND provide fun for the taxpaying citizens!
Alex Hamner
From: Sunrise School <[email protected]>
Sent on: Monday, August 7, 2023 3:51:59 AM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Inquiry About Robertson Ranch Park Project
To Whom it may concern,
Hi,
This is a family based business operating a licensed child care in Carlsbad(92010). we have founded Sunrise School LLC and are planning to expand to a childcare center (Pre- school, learning center from birth to 5 years old’s) in the City of Carlsbad and offer our services in order to provide support to the local community.
We heard about the Robertson Ranch Park project and read the master plan amendment, it seems there are plans considered to have a childcare center in the park. If yes, we are very interested to know more details about it and how we can connect to the developer or relevant department in order to secure the place.
If needed we are also open to having a meeting in order to discuss our plans and project.
Your support to open a childcare center (Pre-school) is highly appreciated and it will help us to continue creating a safe and effective learning environment in Carlsbad.
Sincerely yours,
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Ben And Mary Talachi
Phone:(760)783-3187
E-mail: [email protected]
https://sunrisechildcare.net
From: andy vick <[email protected]>
Sent on: Monday, August 7, 2023 2:59:39 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: More pickleball courts needed at Robertson ranch in carlsbad
Nick, more pickleball courts are desperately needed in carlsbad. The demand is way higher than supply. Robertson ranch park should have many new pickleball courts. I used to attempt to play at poinsettia park in carlsbad. The wait is just so long because it is so crowded. Thank you for your careful consideration. Andy & Michelle Vick.
Homeowners at 3214 avenida del alba, carlsbad.
From: Josh Underwood <[email protected]>
Sent on: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 9:40:26 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: New Park
Please just add Pickleball. It is unbelievable the city only has 6 dedicated courts with lights at Poinsettia Park.
Thank you,
Josh Underwood
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From: Monica Gill <[email protected]>
Sent on: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 9:02:15 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Park suggestion
PICKLEBALL COURTS AS MANY AS POSSIBLE!!!
From: Darlene Gillis <[email protected]>
Sent on: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 8:43:33 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Pickleball Courts
Please have pickleball courts incorporated into the new design.
Warmest regards
Darlene
From: Jeff <[email protected]>
Sent on: Monday, August 7, 2023 2:37:37 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson Ranch Park
Hi Nick,
It would be great to plan several Pickleball courts as you design the Robertson Ranch Park.
From: Heath Squier <[email protected]>
Sent on: Monday, August 7, 2023 1:23:25 AM
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To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson Ranch Park
We need more pickleball courts in Carlsbad!
Thank you,
Heath Squier
Carlsbad Resident
--
Thank You,
Heath Squier
From: Lisa Beveridge <[email protected]>
Sent on: Thursday, July 27, 2023 10:06:05 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson Ranch Park
Good Afternoon, Mr. Stupin,
Considering that I will be unavailable to participate in the upcoming workshops regarding the planning stages of Robertson Ranch Park; I wanted to take the opportunity to offer some input here at this time. I will also complete the survey, once available.
I did attend planning meetings and city council meetings too, pertaining to the off- leash dog area at Village Trail H - which a lot of us residents did as well; only to find out that the finalized project has been put on hold to “prioritize” areas like Robertson Ranch Park.
Although many of us find that just recently planned (and very lengthy delay), to be a rather disingenuous maneuver by the City of Carlsbad - the hope is that there will be a large (grassy!) dog park area at the new Robertson Ranch Park. That may help with some very ruffled feathers amongst us all, at this point!
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Many, if not most of us who live in Carlsbad, have canine family members. There are very few and far between places to take them to exercise off-leash in Carlsbad. In fact, sadly - Carlsbad is one of the least progressive cities in California in that regard! There is even a nice grassy tree-lined huge off-leash dog park in Lodi, as one example -among many many others.
The dog park located on Carlsbad Village Drive is small, poorly maintained, smelly, and covered in bark chips - which cause severe paw damage. The other new park is quite a hike, and the wrong grass-type was installed to boot. One look at the Laguna Beach Dog Park, and one will witness a lovely, grassy, very large, and well- maintained play area for furry family members.
All of this being said; my sincere hope, along with many other residents, is to see Carlsbad take a much more progressive and inclusive stance when it comes to our sentient canine family members - and their need to run, play, and socialize as well.
Thank you for taking the time to read my concerns; and my sincere desire is that you take heed of what I’ve mentioned to you in this correspondence. Many other residents share my sentiments and viewpoint as well.
Have a lovely rest of your day!
Sincerely,
Lisa Beveridge - Carlsbad resident/homeowner
From: Gayle Ades <[email protected]>
Sent on: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 10:59:54 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson Ranch Park online surveys
Please email online surveys to me as I am a resident in the neighborhood where this park will be located!
Thank you!
J. Gayle Ades
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From: <[email protected]>
Sent on: Friday, August 18, 2023 2:03:36 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson Ranch Park suggestions
Hi Nick, I am a Carlsbad homeowner and my wife and I are thankful to call it home.
May I suggest 2 items for consideration:
1. A running track
2. A football goal post in a location where it might possibly be used to play a “half-court” version of football, as well as a location in Carlsbad for place kickers to practice their craft.
In my searching around, there seem to be no football fields/goal posts or running tracks open for public use in Carlsbad. The schools have them but are not available freely as one might have thought they would be.
Thank you!
Scott McFerran
From: Jackie Lyon <[email protected]>
Sent on: Thursday, July 27, 2023 5:43:49 AM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson ranch park suggestions.
Can you please put in pickle ball courts, a pump track like the one in pacific highlands, plenty of seating and shade over the playgrounds?
My kids love the scavenger hunt wheels on the play equipment. The zip line at Olympus park was a big hit.
Thanks,
Jackie
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Best Wishes,
Jackie Lyon
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From: Jason Jacobson <[email protected]>
Sent on: Saturday, July 29, 2023 5:29:50 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson Ranch Park!
Hi Nick,
I coach at Sage Creek High School Track and Cross Country.
I would LOVE to see a dirt/gravel path around the park for running. A soft type trail.
There are NONE of these in the entire city of Carlsbad.
Piper Park in Larkspur, CA has this type of walking trail around the park and helps a lot.
High schools and middle schools need a place to run safely.
Thank you!
--Jason Jacobson
From: Mike Demko <[email protected]>
Sent on: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 5:53:35 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson Ranch Park
Hi Nick,
I can't make the online or in-person event.
Can you please send me the survey gathering community input..
thank you.
Mike
From: Jim Kay <[email protected]>
Sent on: Wednesday, August 9, 2023 6:16:30 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
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Subject: Robertson Ranch Planning Meeting
Hello:
First I would like to thank you for the opportunity to comment and suggest activities for the planned Robertson Ranch Park.
Second: I have a question? Where were the kids? The park will provide much needed recreation for the neighborhood children. They were noticeably absent from the group that assembled to provide input.
A suggestion. In the future include an invitation to neighborhood children when announcing public meetings that will address the needs of children. The invitation could include language that would limit the invitation to children at or above a certain age based on the anticipated activities planned for a specific park.
Geraldine Kay
From: Mary Real <[email protected]>
Sent on: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 10:11:01 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>; Mary
Real <[email protected]>
Subject: Robinson Ranch Park Project
Outdoor Senior Fitness Equipment and shady areas! And any shade along walking paths is always nice????
Thanks so much for giving Seniors in the areas some outdoor fitness equipment!
Mary Lucid
From:
Gretchen Vurbeff <[email protected]>
Sent on: Friday, September 8, 2023 10:53:02 PM
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To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: survey for Robertson Ranch Park
Hi Nick,
I neglected to fill out the survey in time, but basically I would have said that I live in 92008 and have a child under 18 in my household, as well as one who grew up on the fields of our parks, playing sports indoor and outdoor throughout Carlsbad. I am an advocate for more baseball fields, because we have a shortage. Carlsbad HS freshman have to drive all the way to Poinsettia, which is a challenge to start practices in a timely manner. It would be great to move that to Robertson Ranch, at the least. We also need more soccer fields and pickle ball courts.
Thank you,
Gretchen (Canterbury neighborhood)
From: Deneen <[email protected]>
Sent on: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 11:53:11 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject:
Hello I'm part of Carlsbad community. a playground is always wonderful in a park.
But what about giving it some water toys and water sprinklers for kids & families.
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I live in Robertson Ranch, and requesting emails about the future Robertson Ranch park.
Thank you!!!!
Lauren Freure
From: Lizanne Clark <[email protected]>
Sent on: Thursday, July 27, 2023 1:10:21 AM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Web capture - Harmful website blocked
Attachments: Web capture_26-7-2023_18728_cpikpibllpjmpnchjajlibnmmomnnhnm.jpeg (32.71 KB)
Hi,
Why do I get a warning to not use the above site, which I am directed to if I want to sign up for updates to the new park in City of Carlsbad?
Lizanne Clark
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 6:02 PM
To: Guardian Support <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: City of Carlsbad Robertson Ranch Park public input opportunities
Guardian,
Following are some ideas for inclusion in a Robertson Ranch Park.
1. Include A public swimming pool
2. Include well marked exercise stations
3. Provide Safe crossing over El Camino Real
Thank you for your consideration,
Steve Greenspan
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From: Jodi Squires <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 4:26 PM
To: Michael Calderwood <[email protected]> Subject: Fwd: Future Robertson Ranch Park by Station 3
Hi Michael,
My name is Jodi Squires, I am a resident on Trailblazer way which is located across the street from Fire Station #3.
I am sure you are aware of this future Robertson Ranch park that the city is working on.
It has been brought to our attention that the entrance to this Master Plan park will be next to the Fire Station 3 and will enter on Trailblazer way.
This has alot of the neighbors upset because we love the Fire Station on our street and we love how private and quiet the street is. We are wondering if the Fire Station wants this to be the entrance or not. It seems like you would not want all the excess traffic right in front of the fire station as they need to enter and exit for emergencies.
Could you possibly take a look at this and you can voice your concerns to:
Nick Stupin, Parks Planning Manager
442-339-2527
[email protected]
We would love your input on this planning in hopes that the entrance to this can be somewhere else.
Please review the City of Carlsbad plans:
https://www.carlsbadca.gov/departments/parks-recreation/parks-community-centers/parks/future- park-planning/robertson-ranch-park
Park entrance location
The Robertson Ranch Master Plan shows the entrance to the park on Trailblazer Way (at the traffic circle), next to Fire Station 3. Moving the entrance to a different location has not been studied or designed from a traffic engineering perspective and would likely be cost prohibitive due to property acquisition prerequisites and roadway modification needs.
https://www.carlsbadca.gov/departments/parks-recreation/parks-community-centers/parks/future- park-planning/robertson-ranch-park
Thank you so much!!
Jodi Squires
Certified Real Estate Appraiser
www.lci-network.com
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From: Sharon Huston (LCYO CO-VP of Baseball) <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 2:44 PM
To: Lori Swenck <[email protected]> ; Field Allocations <[email protected]>; Brian Buchholtz <[email protected]> ; Kevin Gohres <[email protected]> Cc: Donelle Anderson <[email protected]>; Drew Lieberman <[email protected]>; Kerry Vara <[email protected]>; Adam Tepper <[email protected]>; Cassidy Lewis <[email protected]>; Brook Barnes <[email protected]> Subject: Input regarding Robertson Ranch
Hi Kevin, Brian, and Lori:
Thank for your your work on the Robertson Ranch project and for sharing the opportunity for us to contribute our opinion on the initial stages of this project. Please accept the letter below on behalf of the 1,000 + members of our league. We would like to formally include this letter in the Robertson Ranch public comment files. As you know our league has been a fixture in the Carlsbad community for over 40 years and we are excited by the potential opportunities ahead.
Sharon
Sharon M. Huston
Volunteer Co-Vice President of Baseball
La Costa Youth Organization (LCYO) - a non-profit 501c3 100% volunteer organization! www.lcyo.org
The number one rule at LCYO is to "Have Fun!"
Dear City of Carlsbad,
We write to you today as representatives of the Board of the non-profit, all volunteer La Costa Youth Organization (LCYO). Our community prioritizes low-cost, open access softball and baseball to boys and girls, including a thriving special-needs division.
We are excited to hear that the City of Carlsbad is planning to build a new park near Robertson Ranch, and we appreciate the opportunity to have a voice in that process. We look forward to continuing our long history of partnership with the city to ensure a great experience for the children of our community by promoting physical fitness, developing character through social interaction, teamwork, and sportsmanship, and having fun. In addition to playing baseball/softball, we also provide an opportunity for our youth to give back to the community through volunteer work and other experiences such as starting their first job as umpires, learning valuable life skills along the way.
We therefore kindly request that the City allocate space at Robertson Ranch dedicated specifically to baseball/softball activities.
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opportunity to play baseball/softball. La Costa Youth Organization’s annual participation exceeds 1,000 players (and thousands of additional family members) per season, and the interest in baseball continues to grow. However, non-profit youth baseball/softball continues to compete with larger and sometimes expensive sports organizations for field space, including for-profit organizations which we cannot compete with in terms of paying for fields and other non-profit organizations that have paid staff and more dedicated field space for their sport.
The result is that demand for our sport in our community has outpaced our capacity. Simply put, there is a lack of adequate facilities for our sport in the city, and many players and families have either had to miss out, or join neighboring organizations to enjoy the sport because we simply do not have enough fields to support our local families' interest.
We believe that the new park would be a great opportunity to address this issue and provide more space for baseball/softball in Carlsbad. It would not only serve the existing community, but also encourage more youth to participate in the sport and enjoy the lifelong lessons baseball/softball can teach our youth.
The LCYO Board therefore kindly reiterates our request for the City of Carlsbad to allocate specific field space for baseball/softball in the new park.
Thank you for your time and attention to this matter, and we sincerely thank you for listening to your families and youth sports leaders in the Community.
With great appreciation on behalf of LCYO's 1,000+ families,
The La Costa Youth Organization
From: Jim Barnhill <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 3:33 PM
To: Kyle Lancaster <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson Ranch workshops and survey
Hi Kyle-
Hope you are doing well. Your Robertson Ranch workshop email was well received by our membership. I wanted to give you a heads-up that many families have asked us how they can help in their desire for fields to be part of the plan at Robertson Ranch. We've directed them back to your email and asked them to participate in one of the three ways you provide.
We are excited for the opportunity to give our feedback and to continue our discussion about field space and how it aligns with the number of Carlsbad youth participating in sports.
See you tomorrow.
All the best-
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Jim Barnhill
President
City SC Carlsbad
t. (714) 350-5096
e. [email protected]
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From: Alex <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 10:16 PM
To: Council Internet Email <[email protected]> Subject: Robertson Ranch
This makes sense - put something healthy and truly useable that has an inter-generational function in the available space - a dozen or more pickleball courts. Carlsbad is sorely lacking in public pickleball courts.
Be smart AND provide fun for the taxpaying citizens!
Alex Hamner
From: Denise Pauly-Hovey <[email protected]>
Sent on: Thursday, August 10, 2023 11:15:03 PM
To: Mick Calarco <[email protected]>
Subject: Public park at Robertson Ranch
It was nice speaking with you the other night at the Park-To-Be! I just wanted to mention again some things we would love to have in this park...
1) Ping Pong tables in a shaded area
2) Badminton courts outside
3) Groomed walking trails
4). Picnic tables
5) Lovely are water fountain with seating
6) lots of grass and trees for shade
7) chess or checker tables and benches
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There are already so many pickle ball courts and soccer fields and other parks for youngsters and sports that it would be lovely to have something more calm, serene, quiet.
That you for your help and concern!
Denise Hovey
From: Tessy Kessler <[email protected]>
Sent on: Saturday, August 19, 2023 1:44:45 AM
To: Communications <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Have your say: Robertson Ranch Park
Dear people at the City of Carlsbad,
Yes, you came to our Rancho Carlsbad Community a few days ago, and many expressed their ideas about the new park that you plan to make across from our community.. I did not go forward during that meeting, because my idea may not be as grand as some others. But I talked briefly to the one in charge at the end.
I said then and say it again: keep it simple. Plant some native trees, some green leafy trees, some pines; make some trails and put some benches here and there to rest and hear the birds sing. That is it. Keep it open and 'see through' as much as possible, to prevent mischief or the homeless from making it a mess..
That is my input. Does it make sense?
I bless you in the name of Jesus, that He may prosper the work you do and give you good success in the many endeavors you do to make Carlsbad one of the best places on planet earth to live in. And I thank you for all you do from the bottom of my heart, I am stunned every time I take the car to drive somewhere, and I see how beautiful you made this city. No matter what street I am in, I am touched by the beauty you created all around, in every street ,and on so many street corners. That takes planning, organization , work and money to achieve this. And I say, "CONGRATULATIONS" you did an excellent job for decades to have this lovely result. Also, I like to emphasize the cleanliness of this city. You truly keep it as clean as possible. Besides that, you also repair and repave the street surfaces as needed. My car likes that! It doesn't bounce like it does in other places where the maintenance is not as good as in Carlsbad, California. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Have a wonderful day.
Marie Kessler.
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From: Janis Bandich <[email protected]>
Sent on: Thursday, August 10, 2023 2:47:30 AM
To: Natalie Reed <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Robertson Ranch Park Community Workshop Confirmation
I really liked the suggestion of senior workout areas with a variety of work-out equipment as i have seen in Europe and Asia for years, there are always people there, and it seems to be very social.
This would be something unique to introduce to Carlsbad and not the same old thing at each park, and, as someone pointed out Carlsbad is an aging community and healthy work out activities in the fresh air, and as a social connection is very important for those of us in our 70’s, 80’s, etc. Walking trails are great, too, but building other muscles in the body is critical when aging.
Health and Longevity is the hot topic now and Carlsbad would be smart to get ahead of the game on this. Maybe Senior Centers could sponsor activities or introductions to different levels of activity and even provide transportation for those who do not live close by.
This could be another area in which Carlsbad could take the lead and get lots of press and interest from other cities - probably there are even grants available, as the aging population is increasing and Carlsbad has the perfect weather for year-round use! I would be very happy to volunteer to help if this becomes a possibility as I enjoy outdoor activities and fit the aging category and I live close by the planned park.
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Thank you!!!
Best!
Paige White
United Realty Group Commercial and Residential Real Estate Sales Everything I Touch Turns to Sold
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How opportunities were promoted
Winter 2024
1 How opportunities were promoted
Promotion
City staff notified community members about opportunities to get involved through a wide variety of print and digital channels.
Flyers
Flyers (175) were created and available at each of the following city facilities:
• City Hall
• Faraday Center
• Cole Library
• Dove Library
• Library Learning Center
• Calavera Hills Community Center
• Senior Center
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Sent Jan. 29, 2024 t o 6,871 contacts
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3 Sent Feb. 8, 2024 t o 6,943 contact s
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4 Sent Feb. 22, 2024 t o 6,982 contacts
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Sent Jan. 18, 2024 t o 10,268 contacts
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7 Sent Feb. 1, 2024 to 10,267 contacts
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Sent Jan. 29, 2023 to the whole city; 2,666 impressions
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Verbatim survey comments
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What else would you like the city to consider when developing a final design concept for the park?
What else would you like the city to consider: Agrarian Tapestry I like #2 and #3 best, for different reasons. In #2 I particularly love the dry creek bed playground with the adjacent shaded plaza, and the native/sensory gardens. In #3 I love the organic "softened" feel, the "nature" playground, the board walk, the multiple fitness stations, and the long parking lot that allows direct access to different zones of the park. The walking/jogging tracks look good in all 3 options, but I prefer #3 because of how it blends the walking with the fitness stations. I do NOT like #1 for the following reasons: there is already a community garden very close by, on Glasgow Drive. This new design also places both the community garden and the pickleball courts right next to a busy road, which doesn't seem enjoyable. It makes way more sense to place the parking lot along the road, as people won't spend the majority of their time there. #1 also doesn't have the natural feel that makes the other two options special to me.
Permeable paving - would be essential for the large parking areas of #1 & #2 and easily incorporated into #3
I really love the Agrarian Tapestry design, especially the splash pad and rubberized walking path. However, I would consider eliminating the Community Garden and adding more parking in that space, closer to the sports area. We already have Calavera Park that has a community garden.
Like the longer running track with exercise stations from #3. Like the community gardens from #1. Like venue for events and parking.
Love Agrarian tapestry the most. Some small mounds might be a good idea to be able to incorporate some of the "rolling hills" concept. #1 has something for all generations. Can use the park together. Thanks for including the splashpads. I saw that mentioned by many people, including some who due to their young children, were not able to attend the meetings. Adult porch type swings/gliders might be a good idea too. Here's an example which might be incorporated into the playground area or the pickleball waiting area https://ourwaterfront.org/feature/swing-garden/
Using the #1 concept I would make the garden area a bit larger and take the space from one pickleball court.
Prefer more natural playground and picnic areas that blend into the landscape along with a dry riverbed and rocks verses a splash pad. I like a walking / jogging trail mostly around grassy areas, trees, and nature, and I liked both #1 and #3 or even #1 extended. Love a variety of trees for shade and beauty.
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Winter 2024
22 What else would you like the city to consider: Agrarian Tapestry I very much liked the sitting plaza of community quilt and would like that to be part of the Agrarian concept. The Splash pad in Agrarian concept is so important. This part of Carlsbad has ALOT of families and kids!!! There are limited waterplay outlets for smaller kids in Carlsbad (i.e. no beach play areas like Oceanside or Encinitas has). But, it needs to be a real splash park not just fountains from the floor but rather a lot of interactive areas (e.g. mini creek to float things down, mini slides, unpredictable spraying, fire hydrant looking umbrella spray, etc. like the W.J. Thomas Splash Park in Carrollton TX which is small footprint but lots of fun areas and types of water play. The website is at:
https://www.cityofcarrollton.com/departments/departments-g-p/parks- recreation/aquatics/splash-parks
Like the creek feature. Pickleball courts option #4 none. I have 5 grandchildren I take to all Carlsbad city parks, two live nearby. 1. The playground for me, as a grandpa who takes kids to the parks, is the most important sub-feature of the overall plan. We've lived in the same house for 32 years. We took our three girls to the parks and activities through the years, now I take their children. 2. I like most features of #1, with the creek playground of #2, and the #3 nature playground added to #1.
I like the "uni" field concept to accommodate softball, baseball, soccer, lacrosse, football and all sports fields.
I like the .33 mile walking track of #1 (vs. .25 mile)
Some shade structures near the playground in options 1, 2+3 would be nice.
Accessibility and limited mobility should be addressed in any design picked. The distance from blue parking to features like playground and ball field should be as short as possible.
Not a big pickleball fanatic, fewest courts is my favorite.
Rather than having all the pickleball courts for all of the three designs, can we have a hybrid of tennis/pickleball? Assuming that tennis court is twice the size of the pickleball, for concept #1, 2 tennis courts and 5 pickleball; concept #2, 2 tennis and 4 pickleball; and concept #3, 1 tennis and 4 pickleball.
This would give some option for tennis players like myself and others from Sage Creek High tennis team to practice on the weekend when the school courts are closed. In addition, these additions of the tennis courts would alleviate some pressure from the courts at Calavera and Kelly Parks, which only have 2 courts each and often occupied and we have to wait for our turn,
While I recognize the surging popularity of the pickleball sport, I think it would be fair to have a hybrid concept to accommodate tennis players for working professionals as well as high school players at Sage Creek High.
Thank you for your consideration!
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Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
23 What else would you like the city to consider: Agrarian Tapestry A. The design make maximum use of the space. There is plenty of nature elsewhere.
B. Parking be spaced out enough to not cause hotspots. Option #3 is the best. Options #1 & #2 are terrible since it will just be a large lot and everyone will want to park close regardless of activities.
C. Two access points for parking is a must.
D. Restrooms be equidistant from all. (Option 3)
Clearly I really love everything about the Agrarian Tapestry plan! I thought I would provide a response in my official capacity, with the professional caveat that my expertise is more in programing than park development, but my 35 years of experience would provide the following guidance and recommendations:
First and foremost, the Carlsbad community is extremely fortunate to have opportunity to develop such wonderful parks, trails, greenspaces, and community gathering spaces! This park alone might be the centerpiece for many cities and park districts, but for Carlsbad is one of many similar assets throughout the community.
Obviously Plan 1 has the most amenities and would provide the broadest range of opportunities and diverse usage. However, I think it may ultimately result in “too much of a good thing” and congestion of activities and to broad a mix of active and passive use.
Primarily, that would apply to amenities like a spray/splash pad water feature and community garden. I think these are great amenities, but when combined with all the other park assets may not be the best mix for this development:
Spay/Splash pad water – Not sure if plan is for a recirculated or straight to gray/sewer system, but would assume the former given water conservation standards in southern California. As an agency currently operating two outdoor water features (recirculated), these assets tend to be labor intensive, expensive to maintain and prone to issues especially in mixed use park environment (as opposed to the one at Aqua Norte) where laden for water quality and operational issues. We also have the issue up here that they are seasonal, so certainly have a longer season down there but it can be a large investment for an amenity that is not available year-round. On a positive note, it does provide free access and water play for younger individuals and families who may not have resources for paid aquatics experiences of do not feel safe accessing open water or the beach.
Community Garden – Also have experience in this area and, again, unsure if the Community Garden will be a series of privately reserved plots or more of a community garden that is mutually maintained/harvested by City/specific group(s). My experience is Community Gardens are better fit for site with more sedentary or less active amenities. There is question of access to water, is composting allowed on-site, where does organic waste go, is there storage for tools, hoses and equipment on-site and the associated smells of composting and gardening. Plus, having managed gardens in active, community parks there is also much more opportunity for vandalism, misuse or self-harvesting.
Please try to include a native garden in design 1. Design 1's ability to appeal to all age groups is a strong selling point for me.
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Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
24 What else would you like the city to consider: Agrarian Tapestry Overall design preference is # 1 with boardwalk and lookout elements from #3 and more native plants from #2.
Ease of access to restrooms from children’s play area is important, also feeling “safe” in walking trails with adequate lighting
I like option 3 the most, followed by option 1.
I love the playground areas for option 3. If I could, I would add an additional loop to the rubberized track in option 3 to line to perimeter of the playground/open grassy area, similar to the track in option 1. The upper loop could be used for scooters, rollerblades, etc. The lower loop would remain a track for only running/walking. Whatever option, it is so important to have trees and ample shade! That is a huge reason to cutting our park time short some days. Furthermore, the playground equipment at Tecolote Shores South in Mission Bay is so nice, they have so many unique things (like a zipline!) and the aesthetic is very nice. The aesthetic of playground equipment and landscaping is also very nice at the Waterfront Park in downtown San Diego - the trees are beautiful and they even have a water feature for splashing around!
Option 3 is my favorite
Like Option 1
Reduce negative impact for neighbors
Dedicated lacrosse area/option would be nice
Pickleball far from homes
Love the rubberized track around sports fields
What else would you like the city to consider: Community Quilt I like #2 and #3 best, for different reasons. In #2 I particularly love the dry creek bed playground with the adjacent shaded plaza, and the native/sensory gardens. In #3 I love the organic "softened" feel, the "nature" playground, the board walk, the multiple fitness stations, and the long parking lot that allows direct access to different zones of the park. The walking/jogging tracks look good in all 3 options, but I prefer #3 because of how it blends the walking with the fitness stations. I do NOT like #1 for the following reasons: there is already a community garden very close by, on Glasgow Drive. This new design also places both the community garden and the pickleball courts right next to a busy road, which doesn't seem enjoyable. It makes way more sense to place the parking lot along the road, as people won't spend the majority of their time there. #1 also doesn't have the natural feel that makes the other two options special to me.
Rolling Hills is a softer design. I like the boardwalk over the bioswale as a lovely design as well as an educational opportunity to explain water runoff control importance Permeable paving - would be essential for the large parking areas of #1 & #2 and easily incorporated into #3
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Winter 2024
25 What else would you like the city to consider: Community Quilt Like the creek feature. Pickleball courts option #4 none. I have 5 grandchildren I take to all Carlsbad city parks, two live nearby. 1. The playground for me, as a grandpa who takes kids to the parks, is the most important sub-feature of the overall plan. We've lived in the same house for 32 years. We took our three girls to the parks and activities through the years, now I take their children. 2. I like most features of #1, with the creek playground of #2, and the #3 nature playground added to #1.
I like the "uni" field concept to accommodate softball, baseball, soccer, lacrosse, football and all sports fields.
I like the .33 mile walking track of #1 (vs. .25 mile)
Some shade structures near the playground in options 1, 2+3 would be nice.
Accessibility and limited mobility should be addressed in any design picked. The distance from blue parking to features like playground and ball field should be as short as possible.
Not a big pickleball fanatic, fewest courts is my favorite.
Rather than having all the pickleball courts for all of the three designs, can we have a hybrid of tennis/pickleball? Assuming that tennis court is twice the size of the pickleball, for concept #1, 2 tennis courts and 5 pickleball; concept #2, 2 tennis and 4 pickleball; and concept #3, 1 tennis and 4 pickleball.
This would give some option for tennis players like myself and others from Sage Creek High tennis team to practice on the weekend when the school courts are closed. In addition, these additions of the tennis courts would alleviate some pressure from the courts at Calavera and Kelly Parks, which only have 2 courts each and often occupied and we have to wait for our turn,
While I recognize the surging popularity of the pickleball sport, I think it would be fair to have a hybrid concept to accommodate tennis players for working professionals as well as high school players at Sage Creek High.
Thank you for your consideration!
B. Parking be spaced out enough to not cause hotspots. Option #3 is the best. Options #1 & #2 are terrible since it will just be a large lot and everyone will want to park close regardless of activities.
Overall design preference is # 1 with boardwalk and lookout elements from #3 and more native plants from #2.
The big downside to the park would be the noise from the pickleball puts. And considering there could be up to 9 courts I am concerned about the obnoxious noise levels. Is there any way to incorporate the courts more towards El Camino Real facing the road and away from any housing including the Rancho Carlsbad community across the street or the local community to the north? Design #2 comes the closest to doing it this way. #3 looks like it’s well designed to blend with the space and look organic. The others look like a developer was trying to cram too much into too little of a space. It looks forced and unnatural. The walking track on #2 looks like something you’d see at a corporate fitness center, there for bragging rights more than for utility.
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Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
26 What else would you like the city to consider: Community Quilt Also I think the walking/jogging track in option #2 is hands down the best. It is a really great nature trail!
I very much liked the sitting plaza of community quilt and would like that to be part of the Agrarian concept. The Splash pad in Agrarian concept is so important. This part of Carlsbad has ALOT of families and kids!!! There are limited waterplay outlets for smaller kids in Carlsbad (i.e. no beach play areas like Oceanside or Encinitas has). But, it needs to be a real splash park not just fountains from the floor but rather a lot of interactive areas (e.g. mini creek to float things down, mini slides, unpredictable spraying, fire hydrant looking umbrella spray, etc. like the W.J. Thomas Splash Park in Carrollton TX which is small footprint but lots of fun areas and types of water play. The website is at:
https://www.cityofcarrollton.com/departments/departments-g-p/parks- recreation/aquatics/splash-parks
The parking lot concept in number 3 seems to serve the whole park the best, making most areas more accessible for a majority. The option 2 parking lot looks awkward to try to navigate in a car due to its odd shape.
The integrated nature play in Community Quilt looked amazing. Whatever plan is chosen, having a large number of trees would also be greatly appreciated.
Like Community Quilt for walking/jogging track through greenery There are a lot of junior high and high school kids that live in the neighborhood adjacent. All the playgrounds in the Foothills neighborhood cater to little ones so having the 12+ part of the park would be nice. For this reason I would also suggest lowering the count of the pickle ball courts and including a basketball court. Besides that I am really impressed with both Community Quilt and Rolling Hills options!
Baseball fields cannot face East/West like in community quilt. The sun will be in the catcher's/batters eye at sunset and pitchers eye at sunrise.
What else would you like the city to consider: Rolling Hills I like #2 and #3 best, for different reasons. In #2 I particularly love the dry creek bed playground with the adjacent shaded plaza, and the native/sensory gardens. In #3 I love the organic "softened" feel, the "nature" playground, the board walk, the multiple fitness stations, and the long parking lot that allows direct access to different zones of the park. The walking/jogging tracks look good in all 3 options, but I prefer #3 because of how it blends the walking with the fitness stations. I do NOT like #1 for the following reasons: there is already a community garden very close by, on Glasgow Drive. This new design also places both the community garden and the pickleball courts right next to a busy road, which doesn't seem enjoyable. It makes way more sense to place the parking lot along the road, as people won't spend the majority of their time there. #1 also doesn't have the natural feel that makes the other two options special to me.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
27 What else would you like the city to consider: Rolling Hills Rolling Hills is a softer design. I like the boardwalk over the bioswale as a lovely design as well as an educational opportunity to explain water runoff control importance Permeable paving - would be essential for the large parking areas of #1 & #2 and easily incorporated into #3
It would be a pleasant extra to include some area for a small community garden #3 Like the creek feature. Pickleball courts option #4 none. I have 5 grandchildren I take to all Carlsbad city parks, two live nearby. 1. The playground for me, as a grandpa who takes kids to the parks, is the most important sub-feature of the overall plan. We've lived in the same house for 32 years. We took our three girls to the parks and activities through the years, now I take their children. 2. I like most features of #1, with the creek playground of #2, and the #3 nature playground added to #1.
I like the "uni" field concept to accommodate softball, baseball, soccer, lacrosse, football and all sports fields.
I like the .33 mile walking track of #1 (vs. .25 mile)
Some shade structures near the playground in options 1, 2+3 would be nice.
Accessibility and limited mobility should be addressed in any design picked. The distance from blue parking to features like playground and ball field should be as short as possible.
Not a big pickleball fanatic, fewest courts is my favorite.
Rather than having all the pickleball courts for all of the three designs, can we have a hybrid of tennis/pickleball? Assuming that tennis court is twice the size of the pickleball, for concept #1, 2 tennis courts and 5 pickleball; concept #2, 2 tennis and 4 pickleball; and concept #3, 1 tennis and 4 pickleball.
This would give some option for tennis players like myself and others from Sage Creek High tennis team to practice on the weekend when the school courts are closed. In addition, these additions of the tennis courts would alleviate some pressure from the courts at Calavera and Kelly Parks, which only have 2 courts each and often occupied and we have to wait for our turn,
While I recognize the surging popularity of the pickleball sport, I think it would be fair to have a hybrid concept to accommodate tennis players for working professionals as well as high school players at Sage Creek High.
Thank you for your consideration!
A. The design make maximum use of the space. There is plenty of nature elsewhere.
B. Parking be spaced out enough to not cause hotspots. Option #3 is the best. Options #1 & #2 are terrible since it will just be a large lot and everyone will want to park close regardless of activities.
C. Two access points for parking is a must.
D. Restrooms be equidistant from all. (Option 3)
Overall design preference is # 1 with boardwalk and lookout elements from #3 and more native plants from #2.
Ease of access to restrooms from children’s play area is important, also feeling “safe” in walking trails with adequate lighting
Exhibit 6
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Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
28 What else would you like the city to consider: Rolling Hills #3 looks like it’s well designed to blend with the space and look organic. The others look like a developer was trying to cram too much into too little of a space. It looks forced and unnatural. The walking track on #2 looks like something you’d see at a corporate fitness center, there for bragging rights more than for utility.
The parking lot concept in number 3 seems to serve the whole park the best, making most areas more accessible for a majority. The option 2 parking lot looks awkward to try to navigate in a car due to its odd shape. The playground in #3 seems the most interesting but may also present the most challenges for parents to keep an eye on small children without being physically next to the them all of the time. My 3 favorite features are the sports field, the concessions, and the community garden. My least favorite are the number of pickle ball courts and the fitness area. I think that all Carlsbad parks have room for improvement with respect to shade. I hope that is taken into account here.
Like Rolling Hills for fitness because of spread out stations (spaced) Like Rolling Hills for playground because of nature incorporated/adjacent Like Rolling Hills for picnic areas because they are separated There are a lot of junior high and high school kids that live in the neighborhood adjacent. All the playgrounds in the Foothills neighborhood cater to little ones so having the 12+ part of the park would be nice. For this reason I would also suggest lowering the count of the pickle ball courts and including a basketball court. Besides that I am really impressed with both Community Quilt and Rolling Hills options!
Like the longer running track with exercise stations from #3.
Love Agrarian tapestry the most. Some small mounds might be a good idea to be able to incorporate some of the "rolling hills" concept. #1 has something for all generations. Can use the park together.
Prefer more natural playground and picnic areas that blend into the landscape along with a dry riverbed and rocks verses a splash pad. I like a walking / jogging trail mostly around grassy areas, trees, and nature, and I liked both #1 and #3 or even #1 extended. Love a variety of trees for shade and beauty.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
29 What else would you like the city to consider: Rolling Hills My recommendation would be for Plan 3 for the following reasons:
Amenity and parking design seems most conducive to designed and intended uses. Pickleball is isolated (which in my experience players and non-players prefer and is located next to City facility and not private neighborhood if are noise concerns). The elongated parking that runs the width of the park provides much better access to all amenities and assets as opposed to a long (albeit paved) walk in the other designs. You can also disperse ADA spots more evenly so that regardless of the activity, there as accessible space in the general vicinity.
There is a good buffer between active and passive areas. This is close to Calavera Hills so not entirely sure how Carlsbad allocates amenities based on zones or geographic regions and what amenities might be duplicative w/ CH, but seems like some additional picnic shelters would provide more opportunities for community engagement and small pavilion/stage could host smaller Movies in the Park or similar events (but that might be more activity than is desired for passive area).
I like option 3 the most, followed by option 1.
I love the playground areas for option 3. If I could, I would add an additional loop to the rubberized track in option 3 to line to perimeter of the playground/open grassy area, similar to the track in option 1. The upper loop could be used for scooters, rollerblades, etc. The lower loop would remain a track for only running/walking. Whatever option, it is so important to have trees and ample shade! That is a huge reason to cutting our park time short some days. Furthermore, the playground equipment at Tecolote Shores South in Mission Bay is so nice, they have so many unique things (like a zipline!) and the aesthetic is very nice. The aesthetic of playground equipment and landscaping is also very nice at the Waterfront Park in downtown San Diego - the trees are beautiful and they even have a water feature for splashing around!
Option 3 is my favorite
Parking in #3 is ideal allowing visitors to park near where they want to visit the park and helps provide access to all abilities.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
30 What else would you like the city to consider: Rolling Hills I love parks and am thankful that Carlsbad has so many parks and open spaces. I like going to parks for the natural beauty, nature, fresh air, picnicking and walking. I am very excited about this new proposed park! It is very close to where I live and I will be using it a lot! I like Option #3 the best because it has a nice layout. Parking that stretches long for easy access to all parts of the park. A larger play area for kids, the walking track, picnicking and grass areas spread out for groups to have some privacy.
PICKELBALL COURTS
I like Option 3 because there are not so many pickle-ball courts. 6 is a lot and there are other places for people to play pickleball in Carlsbad! People convert tennis courts to play pickle ball now.
PICNIC TABLES
I like the picnic tables in Option 3 because they are spread out in the park, enabling some privacy and different settings. I also like some picnic tables with shade, on a hot summer day, that is necessary! Trash cans are also important to be near the picnic tables. Drinking fountains and a water source is important, not necessarily near the picnic tables, but at least near that concession stand area.
6 Pickleball courts are plenty. The buffer in plan three is the best for those residents who are the closest. No splash! Thanks.
We have a lack of splash pads available to kids locally! Absolutely love the Rolling Hills design (blurring the edge between nature and park), but wish it had a splash pad.
Even though I’m an avid pickleball player, I chose #3, Rolling Hills largely because it seems to have better parking elements (less obtrusive rather than giant parking asphalt) and overall opportunity for all ages to spend time outdoors.
Keep the pickleball courts as far away from kids sports fields and any nature paths. Pickleball is noise pollution, so having it next to the street across from parking in Option 3 is by far the best of the three options.
-Try and combine the parking lot style from #3 with keeping the pickle ball courts in the most southern western space.
The other major recommendation. I use these trails all the time. Robertson Ranch trails are very used by runners and walkers. I chose number 3 because of the size of the track. It should even be bigger. And whichever of the 3 is chosen, the perimeter trail should have DG instead of or in addition to next to cement so that the distances are extended further and can also be used by the runners that come by the trail. Runners don't want to run on cement. The trails are hilly and runners are looking for flat to run on. We used to be able to do track workouts at Carlsbad High Schools but now the public schools have locked the tracks so the public can't use them. This will be one of the only flat places for runners to use. So, the track should be a major facility of the park and be as long as possible.
More natural looking materials for play structures and fitness stations. Main reason why I prefer option #3 Rolling Hills.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
31 What else would you like the city to consider: Rolling Hills I liked that the rubberized track in option #3 encompasses the playing fields. This gives parents an opportunity for exercise while a younger child is at practice on that field. I would also like to see a simple concrete wall for lacrosse "wall ball" or handball. #3 Rolling Hills seems to cover it all.
I like the idea of #3 since it feels like more of a natural space parking in design 3 is nicer, less of a large lot feel and closer to where you might want to go, not spending time traversing cars is a big plus and safer for kids.
Nothing. All three concepts are nice, but the rolling hills concept seems more like Carlsbad.
What else would you like the city to consider: Parking and access My recommendation would be for Plan 3 for the following reasons:
Amenity and parking design seems most conducive to designed and intended uses. Pickleball is isolated (which in my experience players and non-players prefer and is located next to City facility and not private neighborhood if are noise concerns). The elongated parking that runs the width of the park provides much better access to all amenities and assets as opposed to a long (albeit paved) walk in the other designs. You can also disperse ADA spots more evenly so that regardless of the activity, there as accessible space in the general vicinity.
I like Option #3 the best because it has a nice layout. Parking that stretches long for easy access to all parts of the park..
bike parking; good trail connections to promote visiting the park without getting in a vehicle; etc. The city should be setting the best example that is possible on all aspects of sustainability.
It is also absolutely needed to have a Cannon Road entry. Having an entrance for a community-wide park visible from major thoroughfares that requires going into a residential side streets and with high volume traffic (i.e. high demand like pickleball) seems like poor planning. Having a single major thoroughfare entry versus a neighborhood entry, would also create more space for the park. Having a walking entry in the neighborhood would serve the local residents.
Two entrances is also important to limit heavy traffic for the neighborhood.
Noise and Parking near pickleball. It’s become a bit crazy ….
Enough parking so our street is not impacted.
E-bike parking area. Due to the many schools in the area. Elementary, junior high & high school.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
32 What else would you like the city to consider: Parking and access Noise abatement
- Car doors, engines, loud voices
Traffic jams - El Camino Real & Cannon
Noise pollution
Park programming of events and private organized athletic events -- what are your projections?
Potential light pollution every night with lights on until 11 p.m.
Entry and exit to parking lot.
Parking overflow in nearby neighborhood
Concern about parking in neighborhood and lighting
Pls insure enough parking esp. if sports leagues become more active. Thank you - all designs are well done. Thx for asking for feedback.
Deter parking in residential areas. Perhaps encourage overflow parking on Cannon.
Would like to know the number of parking spots for each of the designs Consider contingency plan if parking overflows into nearby neighborhood.
Pickle ball courts will create too much noise and traffic.
In #3 I love the organic "softened" feel, the "nature" playground, the board walk, the multiple fitness stations, and the long parking lot that allows direct access to different zones of the park. The walking/jogging tracks look good in all 3 options, but I prefer #3 because of how it blends the walking with the fitness stations. I do NOT like #1 for the following reasons: there is already a community garden very close by, on Glasgow Drive. This new design also places both the community garden and the pickleball courts right next to a busy road, which doesn't seem enjoyable. It makes way more sense to place the parking lot along the road, as people won't spend the majority of their time there. #1 also doesn't have the natural feel that makes the other two options special to me.
Permeable paving - would be essential for the large parking areas of #1 & #2 and easily incorporated into #3.
Accessibility and limited mobility should be addressed in any design picked. The distance from blue parking to features like playground and ball field should be as short as possible.
B. Parking be spaced out enough to not cause hotspots. Option #3 is the best. Options #1 & #2 are terrible since it will just be a large lot and everyone will want to park close regardless of activities.
C. Two access points for parking is a must.
The parking lot concept in number 3 seems to serve the whole park the best, making most areas more accessible for a majority. The option 2 parking lot looks awkward to try to navigate in a car due to its odd shape.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
33 What else would you like the city to consider: Parking and access Like venue for events and parking.
Parking in #3 is ideal allowing visitors to park near where they want to visit the park and helps provide access to all abilities.
I am hoping that the new entrance provides entry and exit. plenty of parking
Even though I’m an avid pickleball player, I chose #3, Rolling Hills largely because it seems to have better parking elements (less obtrusive rather than giant parking asphalt) and overall opportunity for all ages to spend time outdoors.
-Try and combine the parking lot style from #3 with keeping the pickle ball courts in the most southern western space.
parking in design 3 is nicer, less of a large lot feel and closer to where you might want to go, not spending time traversing cars is a big plus and safer for kids.
I really love the Agrarian Tapestry design, especially the splash pad and rubberized walking path. However, I would consider eliminating the Community Garden and adding more parking in that space, closer to the sports area. We already have Calavera Park that has a community garden.
2nd entrance would be really helpful.
Please post signs asking cars NOT to idle, one of the best ways to encourage this is to eliminate the roundabout for pick-up/drop-off, parents idling their vehicles will increase pollution in this area a lot.
Please be sure there are ample sidewalk entries into the park for pedestrians to encourage walking to the park instead of driving. Please create TWO entrances to the parking lot, and encourage visitors to enter through the Cannon entrance.
Parking spaces that aren't too small, lots of trees for shade, trash cans next to pickleball courts and along running trail
The 3rd design is smartest for this area and demographic, including a lengthy parking lot with a separate area for pickleball players who don't have to deal with driving against the people going to sports games, separate work out areas that are not adjacent to a children's playground because no parent wants that.
Ample parking so people don’t monopolize the residential parking.
Large parking spots.
I would like to see the final design definitely include the following:
1) Main entrance from Cannon and secondary entrance (drop off only) from Trailblazer to mitigate a traffic nightmare for the homeowners on Trailblazer. 2) Additionally, the curbs should be painted on Trailblazer that indicates "NO Park Parking".
The cul-de-sac is completely full with cars when the Fire Station has an event/meeting so we've seen what will happen, there will be no parking space for homeowners on Trailblazer.
Parking and bbq options. Will there be covered areas in picnic area? Parking and separating areas so children and adults can enjoy the parks. Picnic tables covered Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
34 What else would you like the city to consider: Parking and access Triple pickleball courts and parking
parking is critical - the parking situation at the other parks during sports is insane.
I don't think Pickleball should be behind the sports field. That seems like it would pose issues.
Two entrances.
All three designs are bad. There are too many pickleball courts in every design option. There is too much parking, ingress is poorly designed, and it is clear from the submissions that you are trying to solve all of Carlsbad's complaints about parks in one park. Build a park somewhere else. Don’t use a small neighborhood park to try to solve all these problems.
Will the trails accommodate bikes and e-bikes? Will there be secure bike parking racks? Bike theft is HUGE and to encourage riding instead of driving, it's important to provide a way to secure bikes. Bike racks should be in highly visible locations.
Bicycle Racks adjacent to the Access Point to Existing Trails. This is a way for cyclist to get to the park without dealing with the 50mph traffic on the entrance streets at Cannon/El Camino.
amenities for bicyclists: air stations for tires, places to park and lock bikes, filtered water fountain
It's difficult to know how many parking spaces are in each option (the more the better).
Because of the proximity to El Camino Real and Cannon Rd, I would not feel comfortable biking to the park.
Flat walking areas and connecting parking for people with disabilities and mobility problems and concerns.
Please remove main entrance / egress from the neighborhood Be willing to fix Cannon Road to allow a wide street as it approaches El Camino Real. It needs its own turning lane to north.
Parking I think the parking that encompasses a long area would be better for access to different parts of the park - some would can’t go park nearer the playing fields and others near the playground area.
ADA accessible parking and trails near all entrances.
I think it is essential that the city ensures the park design is considerate of the surrounding neighborhoods and the nature preserve. Thank you.
Entrance on Cannon. Traffic would be significantly impacted with entrance on Trailblazer Way.
Multiple entrances/exits
traffic patterns into and out of park. Will there be a left turn into park other than Wind Trail? Walking/accessible path from Trailblazer Way into the park and community plaza Secondary access to/from Cannon
Enough parking, easy access
Impact of parking on Mt. Foothill residents
Parking
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
35 What else would you like the city to consider: Parking and access please still consider a separate entrance not on trailblazer way A right turn in and out of the parking lot connecting to Cannon is essential.
I think the second egress on Cannon Road is extremely important. The entrance on Wind Trail to Trailblazer is very prone to bottlenecking and backing up. It also interferes with the Fire Station emergency response abilities and the privacy and access of the residents of Trailblazer.
Make sure there’s enough parking
Enough handicap parking, benches, shade in different locations Adequate parking
The main thing that is not addressed here, but is critical is the traffic every school morning on Cannon. For this park to work, it will be very important to make College go through, so that not all of the traffic from Oceanside and NE Carlsbad is routed down Cannon.
Entrance to be off El Camino instead of Cannon.
Do NOT have access/egress off of Cannon road. I live up College Rd. Cannon is already overcrowded. Use ONLY El Camino in all it’s widened glory please.
Lots of free parking and easy access with several access points Parking and traffic flow. Additionally, making sure there are plenty of space for garbage to be thrown away and public restrooms.
Parking impact on the surrounding neighborhood
Traffic impacts
Traffic impact and parking.
Please strongly consider the extra entrance/exit to Cannon in order to minimize traffic in the Robertson Ranch community. Traffic is very bad in the mornings and evenings on Cannon due to Sage Creek HS and will increase even more with this park. Traffic mitigation should be a high priority.
Do you have enough parking? Major issue at Poinsettia for sports games like FNL Do NOT allow access from Trailblazer Way for city residents. This will be a disaster for those of us who live in the neighborhood. It will crowd our streets, which is already an issue because the house are so close together that we don’t have enough curb parking spaces. Not only that, this area is where the low-income housing in our neighborhood is located. The street nearby the park is already crowded with cars due to lack of parking for those low- income housing units. Most importantly, the fire station is right there before the park. If you allow city residents to access the path through our neighborhood, you will crowd the route used by emergency vehicles to best serve the city in a timely manner. Don’t do it.
More parking and removing trailblazer entrance
The park entrance and the size of the parking lot.
Don't have neighborhood street entrance, just use cannon Additional entrance off Cannon is a must. A single entrance at the roundabout will wreak havoc on the neighborhood and cause excessive traffic.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
36 What else would you like the city to consider: Pickleball I do NOT like #1 for the following reasons: there is already a community garden very close by, on Glasgow Drive. This new design also places both the community garden and the pickleball courts right next to a busy road, which doesn't seem enjoyable. It makes way more sense to place the parking lot along the road, as people won't spend the majority of their time there. #1 also doesn't have the natural feel that makes the other two options special to me.
Robertson Ranch homeowners have expressed concern about noise from the Pickleball courts. Please make sure to put the courts as far away from housing as possible. Please consider that this park will be used by adult hikers and walkers who are interested in appreciating nature and not necessarily wanting to interface with sports games or children’s playgrounds. Quiet areas in natural surroundings should be made available The 3rd design is smartest for this area and demographic, including a lengthy parking lot with a separate area for pickleball players who don't have to deal with driving against the people going to sports games, separate work out areas that are not adjacent to a children's playground because no parent wants that.
Like the creek feature. Pickleball courts option #4 none.
Not a big pickleball fanatic, fewest courts is my favorite. pickleball - this is a fad. if someone wants to play pickleball all the time, they should join a league
Lastly, I was very active in the info gathering sessions in the early days and feel like the need for more pickleball courts feels overstated. There was a really loud minority that kept mentioning pickleball courts. Most of us don't want them in the park and would much rather have that space put towards a community garden and more general open spaces for folks to enjoy. The large majority of us do not play pickleball nor want it in this beautiful park.
Adult porch type swings/gliders might be a good idea too. Here's an example which might be incorporated into the playground area or the pickleball waiting area https://ourwaterfront.org/feature/swing-garden/
Why a pickleball area. It is only a temporary fad.
I just really would love to see a splash pad, the maximum amount of pickleball courts, and plenty of picnic areas near the playground and pickleball.
PICKLEBALL. Please go with as few courts as possible. Pickleball will be out of style in 5-10 years. lolo
Please include play areas for kids over 12! They’re still kids and love to play. Love the boardwalk, the creative playgrounds, pickleball courts, large sports park, and some picnic areas.
PICKELBALL COURTS
I like Option 3 because there are not so many pickle-ball courts. 6 is a lot and there are other places for people to play pickleball in Carlsbad! People convert tennis courts to play pickle ball now.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
37 What else would you like the city to consider: Pickleball My recommendation would be for Plan 3 for the following reasons:
Amenity and parking design seems most conducive to designed and intended uses. Pickleball is isolated (which in my experience players and non-players prefer and is located next to City facility and not private neighborhood if are noise concerns).
Also, pickleball is loud and annoying so should be located away from the houses.
As many pickleball courts as possible… it’s social/fun/promotes fitness As a resident of Robertson Ranch this park is important to our neighborhood. RR and The Foothills, have recreation areas for small children under 10, but our kids grow up and are being ignored. The teenagers 12+ that live in this area are in need of basketball courts, skate/bike tracks, and the ability for FNL to use the fields for practice. Alga Norte, Poinsettia, and others are a battle to use mainly due to soccer, lacrosse and other group sports.
The walk/run track is a great start, and definitely a need for middle and high school students on track & field.
We do not need a pickleball court, the city is focusing way too much on this and ignoring the needs of the teens in this part of Carlsbad.
My #3 is maximum # pickleball courts. There is inadequate # of courts in NE quadrant.
Pickleball far from homes
Don't think pickleball is important
Please keep the walking path/track as far from the field and pickleball courts as possible. 8 to 9 Pickleball courts away from homes
I am for the most pickleball courts, but they should be oriented N/S so the sun doesn't set over the end.
6 pickleball courts is plenty
Using the #1 concept I would make the garden area a bit larger and take the space from one pickleball court.
Rather than having all the pickleball courts for all of the three designs, can we have a hybrid of tennis/pickleball? Assuming that tennis court is twice the size of the pickleball, for concept #1, 2 tennis courts and 5 pickleball; concept #2, 2 tennis and 4 pickleball; and concept #3, 1 tennis and 4 pickleball.
This would give some option for tennis players like myself and others from Sage Creek High tennis team to practice on the weekend when the school courts are closed. In addition, these additions of the tennis courts would alleviate some pressure from the courts at Calavera and Kelly Parks, which only have 2 courts each and often occupied and we have to wait for our turn,
While I recognize the surging popularity of the pickleball sport, I think it would be fair to have a hybrid concept to accommodate tennis players for working professionals as well as high school players at Sage Creek High.
Thank you for your consideration!
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
38 What else would you like the city to consider: Pickleball Please make this an actual park. My tax dollars should not go to making more sports parks for athletes. How about the seniors and neurodivergent folks who need actual quiet space? Ditch the pickleball - it serves an elite minority who should just join a club. It’s too noisy. Show some respect for the folks who live near the park. Does the mayor want us showing up in his cul de sac playing pickleball all day? That’s essentially what you’re doing to us.
More than 9 pickleball courts
More courts. 4 is just not enough!
Do not light the pickleball courts after sunset.
More pickleball courts
Triple the number of pickleball courts.
A wall to practice hitting pickleballs away from residents homes - if possible Lights for pickleball courts. Also keep pickleball memberships to Foothills residents only Remember to use experienced pickleball court builders
Some tennis companies cut the corners like a tennis court and that will cause issues and or injuries to players due to wrong lay out
Make sure there is enough spacing between the courts and the fencing for pickleball courts.
Thibido is an example of what not to do.
Consider that pickleball courts are already being added to Calavera, so we don't need a lot more at Robertson Ranch.
More pickleball courts!!!!!!
Put the pickleball courts in so they run North/South. And take out one of the soccer fields to add even more courts so the park can be a true hub for Carlsbad pickleball players. (And even a place to run a tournament or two!)
6 Pickleball courts are plenty. The buffer in plan three is the best for those residents who are the closest. No splash! Thanks.
Would be great to have a pickleball complex with about 30 courts in the one area marked as multi purpose sports fields.
Please put many pickleball courts in one place and not 4-6 in a bunch of places.
In fact what would be fantastic is to, instead of putting one of the soccer fields, use that space for a big pickleball complex. Then don't put courts in any other park. This would be the best decision.
More pickleball courts!!
Pickleball courts - further from homes would be better.
Add waterfall features to buffer pickleball court noise and traffic from ECR and Cannon Pickleball courts
-Noise of pickleball courts should be as far away from the ballfield backstop and bleachers if left in the proposed development.
Are there ways to lessen the noise of pickle ball courts? Adding another set of bathrooms at opposite side of park; especially near pickleball courts.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
39 What else would you like the city to consider: Pickleball More pickleball courts.
More pickleball courts
Pickleball courts, baseball and softball fields
Tennis/Pickleball share courts. 2 courts down the middle of the tennis courts (instead of 4).
This allows for the tennis lines to have almost no interference with the PB lines The big downside to the park would be the noise from the pickleball puts. And considering there could be up to 9 courts I am concerned about the obnoxious noise levels. Is there any way to incorporate the courts more towards El Camino Real facing the road and away from any housing including the Rancho Carlsbad community across the street or the local community to the north? Design #2 comes the closest to doing it this way.
Pickleball court noise. This travels much further than you think. Splashpad seems unnecessary for our temperatures. Also the potential main cost of splashpad.
Noise and Parking near pickleball. It’s become a bit crazy …. I would also like a new Carlsbad law or policy around making sure HOAs aren’t forced by one person to change courts to pickleball.
Expand the community garden at Calavera Hills and use the proposed space to add more courts for pickleball. If there is an abundance of courts then there could be beginners courts so that families could play together. 1 challenge court, multiple intermediate courts to keep it recreational play and fun for everyone.
Even though I’m an avid pickleball player, I chose #3, Rolling Hills largely because it seems to have better parking elements (less obtrusive rather than giant parking asphalt) and overall opportunity for all ages to spend time outdoors.
Triple pickleball courts and parking
Noise levels from pickleball for nearby residents.
Pickleball court rules. Having court designations for higher and lower level skills.
More Pickleball Courts.
I don't think Pickleball should be behind the sports field. That seems like it would pose issues.
Areas for bigger kids is important, they need a safe space to play and skateparks would be great. This seems like you are catering to little kids and pickleball players only.
Parking spaces that aren't too small, lots of trees for shade, trash cans next to pickleball courts and along running trail
Benches to watch pickle ball
Pickleball is most important of all.
Pickleball is getting super popular so I recommend making a lot so they aren't clogged all the time.
I don't care about pickleball at all.
9 dedicated outdoor pickleball courts.
To incorporate tennis courts together with the pickleball courts Lights and paddle racks/wheel for waiting players on pickleball courts.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
40 What else would you like the city to consider: Pickleball As many pickleball courts as possible. It is very difficult to find an open court Shading for pickleball courts.
Dog walking/play area, which seems to have been totally ignored in all three designs. Alga is still a ways to go for lots of dog owners on the coast and this is an opportunity to provide a closer amenity. Also, at some point, the pickleball fad will become less popular and the courts will cease to be used, so fewer courts is preferable. Dogs will continue to win people's hearts and some space saved from those excess pickleball courts could go towards dog runs.
Pickle courts are very much needed.
As many Pickleball courts as possible
How beneficial pickleball has been to build community in our city for all ages.
Love the pickleball courts!!!!!!
Keep the pickleball courts as far away from kids sports fields and any nature paths. Pickleball is noise pollution, so having it next to the street across from parking in Option 3 is by far the best of the three options.
Pickleball is fastest growing sport and players are starting at young ages and can play into their 90’s. It’s cheap and accessible and builds community and interaction easily for people.
As many pickleball courts as possible should be included. More people per square foot will use the pickleball courts than any other space you have.
As a Pickleball player, I would love to see more courts but I also want to be mindful of the noise and make sure they are away from residents and the fire station.
It would be great if some of the Pickleball courts were set aside like tennis courts - first come first serve with an 60 - 90 minute max use so a family could come and play without having to play against higher level or lower level players. Cottonwood creek currently does this and a lot of people go there simply because of this feature. Granted Poinsettia social / challenge courts are very popular too and great if you don't have a foursome to play with, it doesn't work well for beginners or families.
It is absolutely essential to keep the pickleball courts away from residential areas and to themselves because of noise levels.
It is also absolutely needed to have a Cannon Road entry. Having an entrance for a community-wide park visible from major thoroughfares that requires going into a residential side streets and with high volume traffic (i.e. high demand like pickleball) seems like poor planning. Having a single major thoroughfare entry versus a neighborhood entry, would also create more space for the park. Having a walking entry in the neighborhood would serve the local residents.
increase pickleball courts, this is my highest priority Consider room for expansion of pickleball courts. Would be nice to have courts set aside for beginners to practice.
Pickleball courts
Pickleball courts are the least important aspect here, it’s a fad sport that won’t last as long as core sports and there are plenty of other options for pickleball players to go play.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
41 What else would you like the city to consider: Pickleball Make sure the pickleball courts are fenced properly and if possible add a few more as it is the fastest growing sport around.
Don’t put anymore pickle ball courts
All three designs are bad. There are too many pickleball courts in every design option.
The number of lawsuits due to pickleball noise is something for the city to consider; the homeowners are winning. And I would imagine if the plan includes stadium lights the surrounding homes will be upset.
The city is opening itself up to litigation with all three plans. Installing pickleball courts this close to residential homes will severely decrease their quality of life and their property values due to the incessant never ending noise. The city also continues to discriminate against non athletes by planning yet another sports court. This isn’t a park. It caters mostly to athletes.
With Calavera Hills and Veterans sports parks, this area does not need more sports parks.
Why should my tax dollars pay for a bunch of other people to play pickleball? My voice and the voice of us concerned about these issues is ignored yet again.
What else would you like the city to consider: Multigenerational uses I love parks and am thankful that Carlsbad has so many parks and open spaces. I like going to parks for the natural beauty, nature, fresh air, picnicking and walking. I am very excited about this new proposed park! It is very close to where I live and I will be using it a lot! I like Option #3 the best because it has a nice layout. Parking that stretches long for easy access to all parts of the park. A larger play area for kids, the walking track, picnicking and grass areas spread out for groups to have some privacy.
TRAILS - I like having a trail around the field, the rubberized track is not necessary and is probably expensive? It could be cement, so people could walk around it with strollers or that hard packed sand. I also like the connection of the track to the other trails nearby. I like the board walk to the look out area. That is interesting for adults and kids.
PLAY AREA - I also go to parks with my grandchildren. I think it is very important to have unique, usable and large areas for interactive play for the kids. We like Poinsettia Park and Alga Norte Park in Carlsbad and Olympus Park in Encinitas. Those parks have wonderful unique play structures. At Olympus, we love the zip line, the fake grass slide, the rope climber and all the slides at Olympus. And the structures for smaller children.
SPLASH PAD - I don't care for the Splash Pad, kids just stand there and it takes up a lot of space. Kids can run through their own sprinklers! LOL There could be a water feature though.
It could be in that open area close to the children's play area. It like the idea of a fountain with a round shallow pool of water (like only 8-10" deep) surrounding it that catches the water. The kids could play with their boats in the water, wade and splash. Liberty Station has those fountains with a round pool surrounding it, but here the kids would be able to stand in the water. The bottom would have to be of some non-slippery material. A fountain will be attractive and pretty to look at. It will create a pleasant sound and be a noise cancelling… Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
42 What else would you like the city to consider: Multigenerational uses …feature for the traffic and the neighbors. It will also be utilitarian because the kids can play in it when the weather is warm!
I am very excited about the proposed park! If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. I live very close to the proposed park and would be using it a lot! Thank you!! Love Agrarian tapestry the most. Some small mounds might be a good idea to be able to incorporate some of the "rolling hills" concept. #1 has something for all generations. Can use the park together. Thanks for including the splashpads. I saw that mentioned by many people, including some who due to their young children, were not able to attend the meetings. Adult porch type swings/gliders might be a good idea too. Here's an example which might be incorporated into the playground area or the pickleball waiting area https://ourwaterfront.org/feature/swing-garden/
Love creative playground idea-akin to wild animal park, Encinitas zip line park, downtown waterfront park, lots of climbing for big kids and also need little tot area Please include play areas for kids over 12! They’re still kids and love to play.
At first I Felt strongly that we should have a splash pad in Carlsbad, but if the alternative is an artificial stream with interaction and places for kids to play in the stream water, then I LOVE the natural version instead of a splash pad. The community rendering seems to have everything for everyone. Great plans! Thanks for taking the time to include city feedback! 6) Make the Park a great place for children to play with all the right aged playground features. I've been to so many parks with my very young grandsons (2 & 3) and they playground toys are not safe for him. Example: swings are not for toddlers, slides are not small enough, jungle gyms are way to dangerous and openings in the jungle gym where it leads to nothing but falling very far to the ground. Most the time, I walk away scratching my head as to who designed these playgrounds. Please consult experts for specific age groups so we can have an amazing Park for the "littles" as well as the older children and adults.
First off, your renderings and thoughtfulness are extraordinary! Thank you! Feeling blessed to live within Calavera Hills! The rubberized walking/jogging track is so wonderful. Please consider the design with the fewest "sharp" turns. The more gradual the turns, the better for our body. The Community Garden is an absolute home run! Getting to teach kids about how food is grown and creating a hub for people who really value growing your own food would be an incredible blessing for all. Having sensory gardens and several opportunities to connect with nature within the park is also so well thought out. In today's stressed out world, what a wonderful thing that would be to have for all of us to enjoy. The creative playground is also such a wonderful, forward-looking design element for our kids. Please strongly consider finding a place for it. It would be a huge differentiator for Robertson Ranch Park to have this.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
43 What else would you like the city to consider: Multigenerational uses Why no area for a dog park in any of these design concepts?! Carlsbad residents for the most part have dogs as family members as well. Why does Carlsbad persist in being non-inclusive in regard to dogs and their families? It is simply nonsensical to design large parks in our community without taking into account our furry family members and their enjoyment of our city and its facilities too. It’s time for Carlsbad to be more progressive and inline with what all people in Carlsbad prefer - not just some. Pets are in fact family members too, and many residents have dogs with or without children in their homes as well. Please take everyone into account when planning joint community recreational areas. This is important! Soccer field, playground that allow older kids to play, space to walk with dogs.
As a resident of Robertson Ranch this park is important to our neighborhood. RR and The Foothills, have recreation areas for small children under 10, but our kids grow up and are being ignored. The teenagers 12+ that live in this area are in need of basketball courts, skate/bike tracks, and the ability for FNL to use the fields for practice. Alga Norte, Poinsettia, and others are a battle to use mainly due to soccer, lacrosse and other group sports.
The walk/run track is a great start, and definitely a need for middle and high school students on track & field.
We do not need a pickleball court, the city is focusing way too much on this and ignoring the needs of the teens in this part of Carlsbad.
Bike park for kids to ride around like a mini kid land. Build a park on the beach Make a fun teen level bike park section with different hills and small jumps.
Adult fitness stations along boardwalk.
Look at parks like Rotary Play garden in San Jose, Magical Bridges in Palo Alto, and incorporate inclusive designs for all generations.
Like the creek feature. Pickleball courts option #4 none. I have 5 grandchildren I take to all Carlsbad city parks, two live nearby. 1. The playground for me, as a grandpa who takes kids to the parks, is the most important sub-feature of the overall plan. We've lived in the same house for 32 years. We took our three girls to the parks and activities through the years, now I take their children. 2. I like most features of #1, with the creek playground of #2, and the #3 nature playground added to #1.
I like the "uni" field concept to accommodate softball, baseball, soccer, lacrosse, football and all sports fields.
I like the .33 mile walking track of #1 (vs. .25 mile)
Some shade structures near the playground in options 1, 2+3 would be nice.
Accessibility and limited mobility should be addressed in any design picked. The distance from blue parking to features like playground and ball field should be as short as possible.
Not a big pickleball fanatic, fewest courts is my favorite.
Please use handicap/ special needs playground equipment such as the seat swings. A lot of those children go to school down the street at Kelly elementary Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
44 What else would you like the city to consider: Multigenerational uses Please ask your designers to review and consider the placemaking concepts in Gil Penalosa's 8-80 studies regarding creating places welcome to not only the area youth, but in providing comfortable and accessible space for our increasing senior population. This may include covered or enclosed spaces for social gatherings, plazas that could provide space for outdoor music or other entertainment/educational purposes, ample park benches, perhaps along walkways for sitting and resting or reading a book, and thought as to distance to be travelled by foot to access various amenities. During Covid, if not before, we learned the value of having outdoor spaces that were not focused purely on single-use sports fields, but rather, created opportunities for a variety of different users. With or without Covid, our more dense residential futures will create a greater need for residents to be able to get outside, since all homes may not have access to private yards, and enjoy time in the fresh air. Lighting, safety, and security should also be part of the design consideration.
Safe play space for kids of all ages.
Please, please have a playground/activity area for 12+ years old! So many of our little ones currently in the nearby communities will be around that age when the park is finished and it would be wonderful to have a safe, amazing spot for their age group instead of it only focusing on little kids. Many communities in Carlsbad have their own little kid playgrounds, but very few cater to older children and adults!
More bathrooms and all with baby changing station. Splash pad that is safe for babies.
Separating the toddler playground to keep out teenagers who climb on top of the jungle gym supports.
Areas for bigger kids is important, they need a safe space to play and skateparks would be great. This seems like you are catering to little kids and pickleball players only.
My #1 request is a community garden. I live w/in walking to this park and there are a # of senior apartments that have no amenities for this. Also, this provides a social gathering spot for all ages interested in gardening.
My #2 is adult swings! Not gliders, but adults of all ages can enjoy the swings with the youth.
Lastly, I would like to make sure that the fitness areas are usable by adults, not just by children.
Make the park for families and kids.
There are a lot of junior high and high school kids that live in the neighborhood adjacent. All the playgrounds in the Foothills neighborhood cater to little ones so having the 12+ part of the park would be nice. For this reason I would also suggest lowering the count of the pickle ball courts and including a basketball court. Besides that I am really impressed with both Community Quilt and Rolling Hills options!
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
45 What else would you like the city to consider: Multigenerational uses With regard to the fitness area. I made this recommendation before you built the new fitness area in Calavera Hills. The one in Calavera is not used by anyone. It is a good idea but the choice of equipment was terrible. It should actually be real and usable equipment if you are going to do it at all. AARP has some recommendations and even some funding. But, other locations have actually had real and usable workout equipment. Like Venice Beach. Not toys for kids to climb on.
A community garden can provide a space for multigenerational activities/interaction. Please ensure the playground/play space includes a variety of play structures/activities for age range up to 12/13 years old. Ziplines or other activities older kids can also participate. Provide opportunity for 10-12 years old children to play (we often forget they are still kids and if given the opportunity they will play at a park).
The importance of a splash pad and having ample space between the different age groups on the playground. Especially incorporating play equipment for older kids to prevent them from overtaking and inappropriately using the younger kids play space. Ample parking so people don’t monopolize the residential parking.
Parking and separating areas so children and adults can enjoy the parks. Picnic tables covered Have a skateboard place for the teenagers et-all.
Please make this an actual park. My tax dollars should not go to making more sports parks for athletes. How about the seniors and neurodivergent folks who need actual quiet space? Ditch the pickleball - it serves an elite minority who should just join a club. It’s too noisy. Show some respect for the folks who live near the park. Does the mayor want us showing up in his cul de sac playing pickleball all day? That’s essentially what you’re doing to us.
I have young children who would greatly enjoy being able to use the playgrounds and sports field over the course of their young lives. Please include an interesting and unique set of playground structures. Their current favorites are Alga Norte, Poinsettia, and Sunset Park.
Each park has large playground structures for younger and older children.
I personally feel like we already have so many parks in Calavera Hills. It would be nice to have this park be more of a community athletic center. Love the idea of a track and the pickle ball courts. I would just hate to have this space congested with children. Don't get me wrong, I love kids just would be nice is all I’m saying :)
Carlsbad has numerous parks primarily for or very well appointed for younger children, which is fantastic! Carlsbad needs a park that makes a design statement in the community while also providing amenities everyone can and will use.
Handball courts for the kids. There is no park in Carlsbad (or Encinitas or Oceanside) that has handball courts - they are all located on school property which is kept locked behind fences.
Kid friendly
Add some bocce courts. There are many parks with active sports choices. Adding bocce would give Seniors a fun social activity they can do at any age.
I like the idea of a park for all age groups. You have something for the little ones and the teens and adults can walk/jog/exercise and play sports. Also an open space to hang out.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
46 What else would you like the city to consider: Multigenerational uses 1/3 mile walking train is MINIMUM. Should be half mile. A lot of us senior citizens will use the walking trail most in this park. It's a key amenity.
Also having adult swings is very important.
I would love to see Carlsbad get a splash pad since there are not currently any free options in Carlsbad. I have 5 kids and we would love to see more unique playgrounds in Carlsbad. We like the pictures in the concepts of topographic play experiences and discovery play/creative playgrounds. I hope you take this into consideration! Thank you! Kid friendly
There was talk at meeting of making the focus on seniors. Trails & workout zone. More interested in movement, not eating (picnic areas). While trying to include something for everyone please include senior activities - the population of Carlsbad is aging.
Promote a positive environment by strategically placing the fitness area at a distance from the playgrounds, ensuring that the children's play area remains exclusively for their enjoyment. This thoughtful design helps create a more inviting and comfortable atmosphere, emphasizing the importance of a dedicated space for children to play without any interference.
Play equipment for teenagers as well, there is very few things for teenagers to do in Carlsbad, physical activity is so important yet once they enter Jr. High & HS VERY few make the sports teams
A playground for under 5 year olds.
I would love to see more nature-based play and exploration available for children. Studies show the benefits are life-long!
Playground area fenced in, play area on the playground for children under 2, seating/tables within the playground for parents, shaded areas of the playground. More than one bathroom facility.
Make all playgrounds accessible to kids with different mobilities.
People need opportunities to connect and form community bonds, which is very hard nowadays, especially for youth and young adults. Community events, activities, fitness areas and more.
A pump track for young kids to scooter.
Adult swings
We need space for kids to run!
Something for teens to do.
Something for all age groups. Apartments, condos, single family homes, and senior communities all close by.
There wasn't much (any) info about the structures on
I'm 16 years old
Have a great play area for kids that is unique and not just cookie-cutter.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
47 What else would you like the city to consider: Gardens and landscaping I like #2 and #3 best, for different reasons. In #2 I particularly love the dry creek bed playground with the adjacent shaded plaza, and the native/sensory gardens.
Native, low water planting, maybe labeled for educational insight Please broad-cast cal. poppies, whichever design is chosen.
Like boardwalk features in gardens/drainage areas
Love tree lined promenade-unique and shade cover
Don’t care about a community garden or native plants or low water ones.
Having sensory gardens and several opportunities to connect with nature within the park is also so well thought out. In today's stressed out world, what a wonderful thing that would be to have for all of us to enjoy. Lastly, the open grass spaces are wonderful! Would there be a way to ensure that kids can play there without dogs urinating or defecating there? I know that dogs aren't permitted in parks in Carlsbad but owners do not comply. It makes it really hard to find grass space for our little ones to play and roll around without having to deal with dog urine/poo. You folks are doing amazing with this! Thank you for hearing me out! Do not use synthetic turf or pour in place (these are toxic substances) for track instead use decomposed granite. Place trees for shade. Community garden important.
Native plants are critical. Preserve as much native habitat as possible and plant natives in the community garden
Please consider keeping the section of native garden no matter what design is chosen. With several community gardens already available to the city, a native garden is absolutely critical environmentally and a new feature in Carlsbad.
Big garden areas with picnic tables scattered around the garden Areas to view gardens without crossing grass. Where it could be peaceful.
Please try to include a native garden in design 1. Design 1's ability to appeal to all age groups is a strong selling point for me.
Also, more care in picking the types of trees and other plants. The liquid amber trees were not a great choice on Cannon Rd near the park since their roots are destructive and they produce ball seeds which will fall into the road.
Would like to see some native plants to attract butterflies and other pollinators.
The carbon footprint of the parks design, maintenance and use... such as: DG or gravel paths not concrete or synthetics; use of native plants for all plantings; shade trees or solar trees in the parking area; thoughtful, naturalistic drainage design that makes evident how water is used (not just submerging flows into subsurface pipes); limited lighting (long wavelength)/lighting hours (value of dark sky especially for habitat); bike parking; good trail connections to promote visiting the park without getting in a vehicle; etc. The city should be setting the best example that is possible on all aspects of sustainability.
Prefer more natural playground and picnic areas that blend into the landscape along with a dry riverbed and rocks verses a splash pad. I like a walking / jogging trail mostly around grassy areas, trees, and nature, and I liked both #1 and #3 or even #1 extended. Love a variety of trees for shade and beauty.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
48 What else would you like the city to consider: Gardens and landscaping Please keep plantings low water, and do not use plants that attract bees, unless it's in an area of the park where people will not be hanging out.
Lots of native plants
Overall design preference is # 1 with boardwalk and lookout elements from #3 and more native plants from #2.
opportunity to identify and appreciate our native plants and animals Lots of native plants please
The planting of native plants and the connection/integration between the park and the surrounding natural areas.
Carbon footprint
Large trees and natural landscape vs. pavement or artificial surfaces Quiet areas
Keep it green, trees and plants that clean the air. Benches to sit, relax and admire the view.
Surrounded by is proven to be good for our health at all ages.
Less or no grass. Native plants preferably
I love the soft ground trail. I hate the pavement. Thank you for considering native plants and natural ground. I bought my house adjacent to the park 10 years ago when my kids were small, and this would have been great, but at least other kids can enjoy these things! Native plants and habitats.
More native open space. Plants for pollinators and 'nature bathing'.
Please plant California native plants no matter what design we go with. Water wise is a step too short. Support native wildlife by adding native plants in the buffer zone and through out.
The designs look great and love the use of native plants.
Furthermore, the playground equipment at Tecolote Shores South in Mission Bay is so nice, they have so many unique things (like a zipline!) and the aesthetic is very nice. The aesthetic of playground equipment and landscaping is also very nice at the Waterfront Park in downtown San Diego - the trees are beautiful and they even have a water feature for splashing around!
Parking spaces that aren't too small, lots of trees for shade, trash cans next to pickleball courts and along running trail
There is no mention of shade trees in the design concepts. Please incorporate shade trees throughout the park, perhaps along the jogging track. We need more trees. Walking/jogging path needs to be longer.
We need shade trees, lots of them, along the track.
An orchard of different fruit trees.
Also, please include Shaded areas: shade whether from trees, sailcloths, or awnings above seating areas for sports and picnickers.
Trees or covering that may offer shaded areas
Many trees for shade.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
49 What else would you like the city to consider: Gardens and landscaping trees that will provide shade
Shade- take several years for trees to mature?
Shade trees
The integrated nature play in Community Quilt looked amazing. Whatever plan is chosen, having a large number of trees would also be greatly appreciated.
What else would you like the city to consider: Neighborhood impacts My #5 is to protect the privacy & noise of homes nearby.
My recommendation would be for Plan 3 for the following reasons:
Amenity and parking design seems most conducive to designed and intended uses. Pickleball is isolated (which in my experience players and non-players prefer and is located next to City facility and not private neighborhood if are noise concerns).
A fountain will be attractive and pretty to look at. It will create a pleasant sound and be a noise cancelling feature for the traffic and the neighbors. It will also be utilitarian because the kids can play in it when the weather is warm!
Keep the pickleball courts as far away from kids sports fields and any nature paths. Pickleball is noise pollution, so having it next to the street across from parking in Option 3 is by far the best of the three options.
The big downside to the park would be the noise from the pickleball puts. And considering there could be up to 9 courts I am concerned about the obnoxious noise levels. Is there any way to incorporate the courts more towards El Camino Real facing the road and away from any housing including the Rancho Carlsbad community across the street or the local community to the north? Design #2 comes the closest to doing it this way. limited lighting (long wavelength)/lighting hours (value of dark sky especially for habitat) It is absolutely essential to keep the pickleball courts away from residential areas and to themselves because of noise levels.
It is also absolutely needed to have a Cannon Road entry. Having an entrance for a community-wide park visible from major thoroughfares that requires going into a residential side streets and with high volume traffic (i.e. high demand like pickleball) seems like poor planning. Having a single major thoroughfare entry versus a neighborhood entry, would also create more space for the park. Having a walking entry in the neighborhood would serve the local residents.
Two entrances is also important to limit heavy traffic for the neighborhood.
Robertson Ranch homeowners have expressed concern about noise from the Pickleball courts. Please make sure to put the courts as far away from housing as possible. Please consider that this park will be used by adult hikers and walkers who are interested in appreciating nature and not necessarily wanting to interface with sports games or children’s playgrounds.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
50 What else would you like the city to consider: Neighborhood impacts lighting - please do not light the sports fields. if I must be lit, please please do not have tall lighting towers. just short ones. I live in the suburbs so I don’t have to a of strong lights near my neighborhood.
Please consider including an area that can be used for target archery (either dedicated or easily converted with storage for target bales). Recurve archery is one of the fastest growing sports in the US and an Olympic sport. The closest ranges are on UCSD campus, Poway (their city makes money on passes to the range), and the Olympic Training Center in Chula Vista. An archery range would also enable the City to keep beautiful open space that does not cause a lot of wear and tear on the physical land without the noise of other sports like pickleball.
Please visit Poway's archery range or Olympic Training Center in Chula Vista for an idea of how beautiful and what kind of people (mostly youth and families) it attracts and revenue it can earn. Please contact me with any follow up questions since I am an archery parent, Level 2 coach and am connected with the USA Archery coaches network.
Do not light the pickleball courts after sunset.
Lights for pickleball courts. Also keep pickleball memberships to Foothills residents only Add waterfall features to buffer pickleball court noise and traffic from ECR and Cannon -Noise of pickleball courts should be as far away from the ballfield backstop and bleachers if left in the proposed development.
Are there ways to lessen the noise of pickle ball courts? Pickleball court noise. This travels much further than you think.
Noise and Parking near pickleball. It’s become a bit crazy …. I would also like a new Carlsbad law or policy around making sure HOAs aren’t forced by one person to change courts to pickleball.
Noise levels from pickleball for nearby residents.
Lights and paddle racks/wheel for waiting players on pickleball courts.
As a Pickleball player, I would love to see more courts but I also want to be mindful of the noise and make sure they are away from residents and the fire station.
The number of lawsuits due to pickleball noise is something for the city to consider; the homeowners are winning. And I would imagine if the plan includes stadium lights the surrounding homes will be upset.
The city is opening itself up to litigation with all three plans. Installing pickleball courts this close to residential homes will severely decrease their quality of life and their property values due to the incessant never ending noise. The city also continues to discriminate against non athletes by planning yet another sports court. This isn’t a park. It caters mostly to athletes.
With Calavera Hills and Veterans sports parks, this area does not need more sports parks.
Why should my tax dollars pay for a bunch of other people to play pickleball? My voice and the voice of us concerned about these issues is ignored yet again.
Eliminating the fitness areas, not having lighting for the fields so they are daylight use only or making sure the lighting does not impact the homes on the park! Enough parking so our street is not impacted.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
51 What else would you like the city to consider: Neighborhood impacts Consider light and noise pollution for the neighboring residents.
Noise abatement
- Car doors, engines, loud voices
Traffic jams - El Camino Real & Cannon
Noise pollution
- P.A. systems, cheering crowds, bands/music/half-time shows Park programming of events and private organized athletic events -- what are your projections?
Potential light pollution every night with lights on until 11 p.m.
Are there plans to build on the existing fire station property? Hours of lights
Parking overflow in nearby neighborhood
Lights for fields not shining in neighborhood
Light Pollution and noise level from sports should be mitigated with an indoor facility. Our firefighters deserve to sleep well.
shading, noise level for the residents as well as preventing unwelcomed visitors (i.e. homeless or trouble makers) to the residential area behind the park. Consider having some sort of security monitoring system in place.
Least amount of traffic and noise to neighboring residents Have lighting for sports field and courts
Be aware of noise factor for those of us who live close to this park Consideration for nearby residents.
Light at night should not disturb residents and not interfere with natural habits of wildlife; Concern about parking in neighborhood and lighting
keep lighting to a minimum, no stadium lighting
protect local habitat by limiting peripheral lighting and noise where possible.
If you are considering evening lighting for the sports fields, pls consider evening noise to surrounding neighbors. We are strong on nature, natural walking paths and peaceful environments. Pls insure enough parking esp. if sports leagues become more active. Thank you - all designs are well done. Thx for asking for feedback.
Deter parking in residential areas. Perhaps encourage overflow parking on Cannon.
Prefer no stadium lights in the park.
Pickle ball courts are loud. Please don't have too many. And consider noise pollution for others at the park. I think meeting the needs of all residents is important. eliminate noise and traffic for adjacent community
Consider contingency plan if parking overflows into nearby neighborhood.
Will there be lights for fields? Pls consider hours lights will be used.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
52 What else would you like the city to consider: Neighborhood impacts If you are going to provide brand new pickle ball courts then you need to do the same for existing Tennis Courts as well. Show some kind of appreciation for this ancient game. Keep this in mind, the two games are not compatible. PB is creating a noise level that simply disturbs. It is currently being seen in courts over the decibel levels which are dangerous and Injuries' out distance those of Tennis by a much larger margin. Ask any doctor about these facts. However, the one thing that most people cannot use is..."Good Advice".
During Covid, if not before, we learned the value of having outdoor spaces that were not focused purely on single-use sports fields, but rather, created opportunities for a variety of different users. With or without Covid, our more dense residential futures will create a greater need for residents to be able to get outside, since all homes may not have access to private yards, and enjoy time in the fresh air. Lighting, safety, and security should also be part of the design consideration.
Noise control. Good lighting/safety.
Pickle ball courts will create too much noise and traffic. Make the park for families and kids.
Lighting, and overall safety for residents
No dark zones like Holiday Park for homeless to hide in at night. Lights and safety.
What else would you like the city to consider: Sports field I like having a trail around the field, the rubberized track is not necessary and is probably expensive? It could be cement, so people could walk around it with strollers or that hard packed sand.
As a resident of Robertson Ranch this park is important to our neighborhood. RR and The Foothills, have recreation areas for small children under 10, but our kids grow up and are being ignored. The teenagers 12+ that live in this area are in need of basketball courts, skate/bike tracks, and the ability for FNL to use the fields for practice. Alga Norte, Poinsettia, and others are a battle to use mainly due to soccer, lacrosse and other group sports.
The walk/run track is a great start, and definitely a need for middle and high school students on track & field.
Dedicated lacrosse area/option would be nice
Love the rubberized track around sports fields
I like the "uni" field concept to accommodate softball, baseball, soccer, lacrosse, football and all sports fields.
Accessibility and limited mobility should be addressed in any design picked. The distance from blue parking to features like playground and ball field should be as short as possible.
Wheelchair track as long as possible with side areas to sit + watch the activities on sports fields. Areas to view gardens without crossing grass. Where it could be peaceful.
Would like to see 2 baseball fields with lights
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
53 What else would you like the city to consider: Sports field Please consider the size of the soccer field. It would need enough space for corner kicks and spectators!
115 x 75 is ideal. Minimum should be 100 x 60.
On the sports fields to have enough space for spectators Two full 11v11 soccer fields to be 115x75 yards each, minimum of 110x70 would work. Then we can have 2x 9v9 locations plus 4-6 7v7 fields.
For reference the ones at Aviara and poinsettia are 100x60 Sports field layout that allows for 2 soccer fields 115x75 yards with appropriate space around the perimeter for spectators.
Lights for fields not shining in neighborhood
More options for sports fields and activities
Please ensure that the athletic fields have enough space around them for proper play and for spectators.
-Keep the walking path around the fields. Having a walking path near playgrounds will cause interference from users of play areas to those trying to walk/run. -Try and combine the parking lot style from #3 with keeping the pickle ball courts in the most southern western space.
Parking I think the parking that encompasses a long area would be better for access to different parts of the park - some would can’t go park nearer the playing fields and others near the playground area.
Orientation of field/courts vs path of sun
Have lighting for sports field and courts
Put the pickleball courts in so they run North/South. And take out one of the soccer fields to add even more courts so the park can be a true hub for Carlsbad pickleball players. (And even a place to run a tournament or two!)
Would be great to have a pickleball complex with about 30 courts in the one area marked as multi purpose sports fields.
Please put many pickleball courts in one place and not 4-6 in a bunch of places.
In fact what would be fantastic is to, instead of putting one of the soccer fields, use that space for a big pickleball complex. Then don't put courts in any other park. This would be the best decision.
Enough distance from (x) so coaches can coach.
Please consider sewing lacrosse lines into one of the two turf fields Perhaps consider united field hours given how close field is to the community residents.
Regular grass, but synthetic on the soccer fields is probably better Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
54 What else would you like the city to consider: Sports field The multipurpose field should be artificial turf and not grass. Turf allows for heavy use and not subject to weather. Also, believe that maintenance of grass/dirt is high and more costly in the long run.
There should be lights for the multipurpose field to allow for more use.
Please keep the walking path/track as far from the field and pickleball courts as possible.
Please consider NOT putting a play field in this park, and instead use the space for non- organized sports.
Sports facilities
If you are considering evening lighting for the sports fields, pls consider evening noise to surrounding neighbors. We are strong on nature, natural walking paths and peaceful environments. Pls insure enough parking esp. if sports leagues become more active. Thank you - all designs are well done. Thx for asking for feedback.
Pickleball courts, baseball and softball fields
Crucial in all options is to have natural grass sports field. NOT artificial, non natural turf that is increasing injuries by 300%. If you put a jogging trail make it natural wood chips NOT artificial rubber.
Will there be lights for fields? Pls consider hours lights will be used. parking is critical - the parking situation at the other parks during sports is insane.
I don't think Pickleball should be behind the sports field. That seems like it would pose issues.
Will the fields be turf or grass?
I liked that the rubberized track in option #3 encompasses the playing fields. This gives parents an opportunity for exercise while a younger child is at practice on that field. I would also like to see a simple concrete wall for lacrosse "wall ball" or handball.
Eliminating the fitness areas, not having lighting for the fields so they are daylight use only or making sure the lighting does not impact the homes on the park! Enough parking so our street is not impacted.
Sports fields
My 3 favorite features are the sports field, the concessions, and the community garden. My least favorite are the number of pickle ball courts and the fitness area. I think that all Carlsbad parks have room for improvement with respect to shade. I hope that is taken into account here.
More soccer fields, less pickle gall.
I have young children who would greatly enjoy being able to use the playgrounds and sports field over the course of their young lives.
Make the field accessible to Lacrosse as well as soccer.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
55 What else would you like the city to consider: Sports field During Covid, if not before, we learned the value of having outdoor spaces that were not focused purely on single-use sports fields, but rather, created opportunities for a variety of different users. With or without Covid, our more dense residential futures will create a greater need for residents to be able to get outside, since all homes may not have access to private yards, and enjoy time in the fresh air. Lighting, safety, and security should also be part of the design consideration.
Need soccer field!
Baseball fields cannot face East/West like in community quilt. The sun will be in the catcher's/batters eye at sunset and pitchers eye at sunrise.
Pickle ball court noise will greatly impact teams/games at the fields so having the courts set off from the fields is essential!
Keep the pickleball courts as far away from kids sports fields and any nature paths. Pickleball is noise pollution, so having it next to the street across from parking in Option 3 is by far the best of the three options.
Soccer field, playground that allow older kids to play, space to walk with dogs.
Baseball field to support Carlsbad Youth Baseball
Two baseball fields
Fields to play
There is only 1 baseball field and it is shared with soccer fields. Carlsbad already has that at pine fields.
Not enough baseball or soccer field in Carlsbad.
What else would you like the city to consider: Playground In #3 I love the organic "softened" feel, the "nature" playground, the board walk, the multiple fitness stations, and the long parking lot that allows direct access to different zones of the park.
Like Rolling Hills for playground because of nature incorporated/adjacent The playground in #3 seems the most interesting but may also present the most challenges for parents to keep an eye on small children without being physically next to the them all of the time.
Promote a positive environment by strategically placing the fitness area at a distance from the playgrounds, ensuring that the children's play area remains exclusively for their enjoyment. This thoughtful design helps create a more inviting and comfortable atmosphere, emphasizing the importance of a dedicated space for children to play without any interference.
Please consider that this park will be used by adult hikers and walkers who are interested in appreciating nature and not necessarily wanting to interface with sports games or children’s playgrounds.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
56 What else would you like the city to consider: Playground The 3rd design is smartest for this area and demographic, including a lengthy parking lot with a separate area for pickleball players who don't have to deal with driving against the people going to sports games, separate work out areas that are not adjacent to a children's playground because no parent wants that. Drainage ditches that will breed mosquitoes and smell are not desirable to have near playgrounds or picnic areas either.
I have 5 grandchildren I take to all Carlsbad city parks, two live nearby. 1. The playground for me, as a grandpa who takes kids to the parks, is the most important sub-feature of the overall plan. We've lived in the same house for 32 years. We took our three girls to the parks and activities through the years, now I take their children. 2. I like most features of #1, with the creek playground of #2, and the #3 nature playground added to #1.
Some shade structures near the playground in options 1, 2+3 would be nice.
Accessibility and limited mobility should be addressed in any design picked. The distance from blue parking to features like playground and ball field should be as short as possible.
I love the playground areas for option 3. If I could, I would add an additional loop to the rubberized track in option 3 to line to perimeter of the playground/open grassy area, similar to the track in option 1. The upper loop could be used for scooters, rollerblades, etc. The lower loop would remain a track for only running/walking. Whatever option, it is so important to have trees and ample shade! That is a huge reason to cutting our park time short some days. Furthermore, the playground equipment at Tecolote Shores South in Mission Bay is so nice, they have so many unique things (like a zipline!) and the aesthetic is very nice. The aesthetic of playground equipment and landscaping is also very nice at the Waterfront Park in downtown San Diego - the trees are beautiful and they even have a water feature for splashing around!
playground - please consider no playground. Carlsbad has enough playgrounds. if there must be a playground, do something with wood (like downtown San Diego has). we don’t need more plastic and metal
The creative playground is also such a wonderful, forward-looking design element for our kids. Please strongly consider finding a place for it. It would be a huge differentiator for Robertson Ranch Park to have this.
Integrated splashpad with playground
Is accessible for those w/disabilities (like Courtney's Sandcastle in San Clemente) Adult porch type swings/gliders might be a good idea too. Here's an example which might be incorporated into the playground area or the pickleball waiting area https://ourwaterfront.org/feature/swing-garden/
Prefer more natural playground and picnic areas that blend into the landscape along with a dry riverbed and rocks verses a splash pad. I like a walking / jogging trail mostly around grassy areas, trees, and nature, and I liked both #1 and #3 or even #1 extended. Love a variety of trees for shade and beauty.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
57 What else would you like the city to consider: Playground Handicap accessibility to all games specially the playground so wheelchair children can also enjoy It. Take a look at “magic Park” in Hayward Mia’s Dream Come True: All Abilities Playground.
Separating the toddler playground to keep out teenagers who climb on top of the jungle gym supports.
The importance of a splash pad and having ample space between the different age groups on the playground. Especially incorporating play equipment for older kids to prevent them from overtaking and inappropriately using the younger kids play space. Ample parking so people don’t monopolize the residential parking.
Better lighting on playgrounds.
Please, please have a playground/activity area for 12+ years old! So many of our little ones currently in the nearby communities will be around that age when the park is finished and it would be wonderful to have a safe, amazing spot for their age group instead of it only focusing on little kids. Many communities in Carlsbad have their own little kid playgrounds, but very few cater to older children and adults!
-Keep the walking path around the fields. Having a walking path near playgrounds will cause interference from users of play areas to those trying to walk/run.
I have 5 kids and we would love to see more unique playgrounds in Carlsbad. We like the pictures in the concepts of topographic play experiences and discovery play/creative playgrounds. I hope you take this into consideration! Thank you! Playground size. As big and unique as possible
Play equipment for teenagers as well, there is very few things for teenagers to do in Carlsbad, physical activity is so important yet once they enter Jr. High & HS VERY few make the sports teams
Please ensure the playground/play space includes a variety of play structures/activities for age range up to 12/13 years old. Ziplines or other activities older kids can also participate.
Provide opportunity for 10-12 years old children to play (we often forget they are still kids and if given the opportunity they will play at a park).
Have a skateboard place for the teenagers et-all. I was hoping for a park as the one in Encinitas memorial park, Their playground is fantastic, so is their skateboarding area.
I just really would love to see a splash pad, the maximum amount of pickleball courts, and plenty of picnic areas near the playground and pickleball.
A playground for under 5 year olds.
A updated playground and some sort of water play area for children would be extremely beneficial for residents to connect while their kids play in a safe environment.
I would love to see more nature-based play and exploration available for children. Studies show the benefits are life-long!
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
58 What else would you like the city to consider: Playground 6) Make the Park a great place for children to play with all the right aged playground features. I've been to so many parks with my very young grandsons (2 & 3) and they playground toys are not safe for him. Example: swings are not for toddlers, slides are not small enough, jungle gyms are way to dangerous and openings in the jungle gym where it leads to nothing but falling very far to the ground. Most the time, I walk away scratching my head as to who designed these playgrounds. Please consult experts for specific age groups so we can have an amazing Park for the "littles" as well as the older children and adults.
I have young children who would greatly enjoy being able to use the playgrounds and sports field over the course of their young lives. Please include an interesting and unique set of playground structures. Their current favorites are Alga Norte, Poinsettia, and Sunset Park.
Each park has large playground structures for younger and older children.
Include playground items that benefit children with special needs, including sensory/interactive areas.
PLAYGROUND
Please please. No playground or play structure. We have enough playgrounds.
If we do have a playground use wood please. I think there's a playground downtown made of wood that is nice.
Please use handicap/ special needs playground equipment such as the seat swings. A lot of those children go to school down the street at Kelly elementary I’d like the playground to be for all ages.
Love creative playground idea-akin to wild animal park, Encinitas zip line park, downtown waterfront park, lots of climbing for big kids and also need little tot area Swings important at every playground
Love love love creative nature play akin to botanical garden. A creek could provide the water feature play I think we desperately need.
Picnic areas need to be near the playground for functional family use.
Soccer field, playground that allow older kids to play, space to walk with dogs.
Playground area fenced in, play area on the playground for children under 2, seating/tables within the playground for parents, shaded areas of the playground. More than one bathroom facility.
Sunshades for playgrounds
A fenced playground would be awesome
Plenty of shade over the playground area as well as enough picnic tables and benches with backs throughout the entire park. Enough picnic tables near the open grassy areas and especially the play area and splash pad. Water bottle refill stations near the playground and not just near the bathroom complexes.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
59 What else would you like the city to consider: Playground There are a lot of junior high and high school kids that live in the neighborhood adjacent. All the playgrounds in the Foothills neighborhood cater to little ones so having the 12+ part of the park would be nice. For this reason I would also suggest lowering the count of the pickle ball courts and including a basketball court. Besides that I am really impressed with both Community Quilt and Rolling Hills options!
Creative freeplay is essential for children's mental health. Please have the creative playground in the final design.
Please include play areas for kids over 12! They’re still kids and love to play. Love the boardwalk, the creative playgrounds, pickleball courts, large sports park, and some picnic areas. I like the tree lined area but we had those tables at concert park in Playa Vista and they’re not kid friendly. Many kids fell off the chairs and were injured, and there were tons of issues with them. They had to replace them all after a renovation after only 6-8 or so months due to issues. Don’t care about a community garden or native plants or low water ones. All of the Carlsbad parks are gorgeous (we are at them several days a week for sports for my kids and to go to the playgrounds).
Make all playgrounds accessible to kids with different mobilities.
What else would you like the city to consider: Dogs
We always get request for fenced, off-leash area or dog park as part of the design. 4) Include dog disposal bag stations to ensure people clean up after their animals.
Lastly, the open grass spaces are wonderful! Would there be a way to ensure that kids can play there without dogs urinating or defecating there? I know that dogs aren't permitted in parks in Carlsbad but owners do not comply. It makes it really hard to find grass space for our little ones to play and roll around without having to deal with dog urine/poo. You folks are doing amazing with this! Thank you for hearing me out!
Why no area for a dog park in any of these design concepts?! Carlsbad residents for the most part have dogs as family members as well. Why does Carlsbad persist in being non-inclusive in regard to dogs and their families? It is simply nonsensical to design large parks in our community without taking into account our furry family members and their enjoyment of our city and its facilities too. It’s time for Carlsbad to be more progressive and inline with what all people in Carlsbad prefer - not just some. Pets are in fact family members too, and many residents have dogs with or without children in their homes as well. Please take everyone into account when planning joint community recreational areas. This is important! Dog park
Please allow dogs to walk on leash in the park or at least in a section of the park.
Dog park divided into small dogs and big dogs by approx. weight A dog park set aside for large and small dogs
Will you be able to bring your dog on a leash to the park? Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
60 What else would you like the city to consider: Dogs
Dog park
DOG RULES ENFORCED!!! Don’t become like Cadencia Park - no dogs allowed but people bring them, unleashed and treat it like a dog park by playing fetch.
A dog park. Calavera Hills residents need to drive at least 15 min to get to a dog park. The one on the Village Drive is only suitable for big high energy (aggressive) dogs. There are so many dog owners in this area that don't have a dog park nearby.
Dog park
An adjacent dog park.
No dog park, please.
Dog park, swimming pool
Dog park
Needs an off leash dog park. Where is the nearest place for dogs to be off leash if not here ? Dog park
Dog park
A dog park
Dog park
dog park, make half of the pickle ball courts for regular tennis dog poop disposal areas
Dog walking/play area, which seems to have been totally ignored in all three designs. Alga is still a ways to go for lots of dog owners on the coast and this is an opportunity to provide a closer amenity. Also, at some point, the pickleball fad will become less popular and the courts will cease to be used, so fewer courts is preferable. Dogs will continue to win people's hearts and some space saved from those excess pickleball courts could go towards dog runs.
Soccer field, playground that allow older kids to play, space to walk with dogs.
No dogs allowed
Dog park is very very important. So many dogs in our neighborhood.
Small dog park
Dogs
Concerns regarding amount of traffic on trails since it's an animal preserve and keeping trash & debris off trail and preserve. Including animal waste (i.e. - people not picking up after their dogs)
Dog area
No dogs
Area for dogs unleashed
dog water fountains
Dog friendly
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
61 What else would you like the city to consider: Nature I love parks and am thankful that Carlsbad has so many parks and open spaces. I like going to parks for the natural beauty, nature, fresh air, picnicking and walking. I am very excited about this new proposed park! It is very close to where I live and I will be using it a lot! Love love love creative nature play akin to botanical garden. A creek could provide the water feature play I think we desperately need.
At first I Felt strongly that we should have a splash pad in Carlsbad, but if the alternative is an artificial stream with interaction and places for kids to play in the stream water, then I LOVE the natural version instead of a splash pad. The community rendering seems to have everything for everyone. Great plans! Thanks for taking the time to include city feedback! Having sensory gardens and several opportunities to connect with nature within the park is also so well thought out. In today's stressed out world, what a wonderful thing that would be to have for all of us to enjoy.
I like most features of #1, with the creek playground of #2, and the #3 nature playground added to #1.
Love the natural play concept for children. Something like the Encinitas botanical garden rock river and play areas would be so amazing. Our kids don’t have access to safe areas to play like that in nature.
Keep the pickleball courts as far away from kids sports fields and any nature paths.
Robertson Ranch homeowners have expressed concern about noise from the Pickleball courts. Please make sure to put the courts as far away from housing as possible. Please consider that this park will be used by adult hikers and walkers who are interested in appreciating nature and not necessarily wanting to interface with sports games or children’s playgrounds. Quiet areas in natural surroundings should be made available. Interconnecting with the existing hiking trails is very important, because the hiking trails in Robertson Ranch are very short! We have to be creative to go on a hike that’s even as long as 2 miles. Also, if this park could be considered for the TGIF concerts, grassy green area will be needed for picnickers. Lastly, I would like to make sure that the fitness areas are usable by adults, not just by children.
We have a lack of splash pads available to kids locally! Absolutely love the Rolling Hills design (blurring the edge between nature and park), but wish it had a splash pad.
I love the soft ground trail. I hate the pavement. Thank you for considering native plants and natural ground. I bought my house adjacent to the park 10 years ago when my kids were small, and this would have been great, but at least other kids can enjoy these things! I would love to see more nature-based play and exploration available for children. Studies show the benefits are life-long!
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
62 What else would you like the city to consider: Nature I am concerned with the rubberized track for walking/jogging. Would rather see some natural materials such as decomposed granite which allows for water absorption. Need to take into consideration of water flow when it rains. Does water need to be diverted into the creek opposite the park.
Also, more care in picking the types of trees and other plants. The liquid amber trees were not a great choice on Cannon Rd near the park since their roots are destructive and they produce ball seeds which will fall into the road.
Would like to see some native plants to attract butterflies and other pollinators.
In #3 I love the organic "softened" feel, the "nature" playground, the board walk, the multiple fitness stations, and the long parking lot that allows direct access to different zones of the park. #1 also doesn't have the natural feel that makes the other two options special to me.
Light at night should not disturb residents and not interfere with natural habits of wildlife; Concerns regarding amount of traffic on trails since it's an animal preserve and keeping trash & debris off trail and preserve. Including animal waste (i.e. - people not picking up after their dogs)
If you are considering evening lighting for the sports fields, pls consider evening noise to surrounding neighbors. We are strong on nature, natural walking paths and peaceful environments.
A. The design make maximum use of the space. There is plenty of nature elsewhere.
Also I think the walking/jogging track in option #2 is hands down the best. It is a really great nature trail!
The planting of native plants and the connection/integration between the park and the surrounding natural areas.
I'd like this park to reflect the private, discrete (not flashy) and local nature of Carlsbad. I wouldn't be interested if everyone from other communities outside Carlsbad bringing their social groups here and overwhelming the park by overusing the tables and that's why I don't like the splash pad idea either. The splash pad reminds me of living in a big metro like Chicago or New York, which is opposite of the small town feel that Carlsbad has I think it is essential that the city ensures the park design is considerate of the surrounding neighborhoods and the nature preserve. Thank you.
playground - please consider no playground. Carlsbad has enough playgrounds. if there must be a playground, do something with wood (like downtown San Diego has). we don’t need more plastic and metal
owl boxes- please try to include owl nest boxes. the owls will keep mice and rats to a minimum naturally without needing to use poisons
A nice place to walk through nature, connected to other existing trails if possible Like Community Quilt for walking/jogging track through greenery Like Rolling Hills for playground because of nature incorporated/adjacent A nice place to walk through nature, connected to other existing trails if possible Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
63 What else would you like the city to consider: Nature Prefer more natural playground and picnic areas that blend into the landscape along with a dry riverbed and rocks verses a splash pad. I like a walking / jogging trail mostly around grassy areas, trees, and nature, and I liked both #1 and #3 or even #1 extended. Love a variety of trees for shade and beauty.
More natural looking materials for play structures and fitness stations. Main reason why I prefer option #3 Rolling Hills.
I like the idea of #3 since it feels like more of a natural space The integrated nature play in Community Quilt looked amazing. Whatever plan is chosen, having a large number of trees would also be greatly appreciated. opportunity to identify and appreciate our native plants and animals Carbon footprint
Large trees and natural landscape vs. pavement or artificial surfaces Quiet areas
More native open space. Plants for pollinators and 'nature bathing'.
Crucial in all options is to have natural grass sports field. NOT artificial, non natural turf that is increasing injuries by 300%. If you put a jogging trail make it natural wood chips NOT artificial rubber.
Nature is a huge aspect!
Uniqueness and integration. Please consider proximity to all recreation services and overlap of needs/services, e.g., lagoon discovery center has nature trail. Can it be connected? Please keep the design with nature contour curves instead of rectangular boxes. Also highly important is as many permeable surfaces as possible.
What else would you like the city to consider: Walking/jogging track The walking/jogging tracks look good in all 3 options, but I prefer #3 because of how it blends the walking with the fitness stations.
I am concerned with the rubberized track for walking/jogging. Would rather see some natural materials such as decomposed granite which allows for water absorption. Need to take into consideration of water flow when it rains. Does water need to be diverted into the creek opposite the park.
I like Option #3 the best because it has a nice layout. Parking that stretches long for easy access to all parts of the park. A larger play area for kids, the walking track, picnicking and grass areas spread out for groups to have some privacy.
TRAILS
I like having a trail around the field, the rubberized track is not necessary and is probably expensive? It could be cement, so people could walk around it with strollers or that hard packed sand. I also like the connection of the track to the other trails nearby.
A walking track that is not totally isolated for women to feel safe.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
64 What else would you like the city to consider: Walking/jogging track The walk/run track is a great start, and definitely a need for middle and high school students on track & field.
My #4 is walking track that is scenic.
Love the rubberized track around sports fields
I like the .33 mile walking track of #1 (vs. .25 mile)
Like the longer running track with exercise stations from #3.
If I could, I would add an additional loop to the rubberized track in option 3 to line to perimeter of the playground/open grassy area, similar to the track in option 1. The upper loop could be used for scooters, rollerblades, etc. The lower loop would remain a track for only running/walking. Whatever option, it is so important to have trees and ample shade! That is a huge reason to cutting our park time short some days.
Wheelchair track as long as possible with side areas to sit + watch the activities on sports fields.
walking areas there mostly flat
jogging track - I think this should go around the entire perimeter of the area to make it longer.
There is no mention of shade trees in the design concepts. Please incorporate shade trees throughout the park, perhaps along the jogging track. We need more trees. Walking/jogging path needs to be longer.
Providing the running track is essential to support residents of all ages with a safe place to run.
Critical to have a 1/3 mile running trail.
Do not use synthetic turf or pour in place (these are toxic substances) for track instead use decomposed granite.
I like the idea of having stadium grass seating with an area for live music performances at the Also I think the walking/jogging track in option #2 is hands down the best. It is a really great nature trail!
Like the longer rubberized tracks
Like Community Quilt for walking/jogging track through greenery Please keep the walking path/track as far from the field and pickleball courts as possible. 1/3 mile track
I want to encourage you to make the running and walking track 10 - 12' wide and make it a one way track to avoid collisions. Also recommend requesting strollers to only go 2 wide at the max. if it is a 1/4 mile path. It would be good to have a mark at Start/Finish: 1/8 of a mile 1/12 and 1/16th of a mile. Walkers please stay to the right side of the track and yield to the faster runners and walkers on your left.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
65 What else would you like the city to consider: Walking/jogging track The other major recommendation. I use these trails all the time. Robertson Ranch trails are very used by runners and walkers. I chose number 3 because of the size of the track. It should even be bigger. And whichever of the 3 is chosen, the perimeter trail should have DG instead of or in addition to next to cement so that the distances are extended further and can also be used by the runners that come by the trail. Runners don't want to run on cement. The trails are hilly and runners are looking for flat to run on. We used to be able to do track workouts at Carlsbad High Schools but now the public schools have locked the tracks so the public can't use them. This will be one of the only flat places for runners to use. So, the track should be a major facility of the park and be as long as possible.
I liked that the rubberized track in option #3 encompasses the playing fields. This gives parents an opportunity for exercise while a younger child is at practice on that field. #3 looks like it’s well designed to blend with the space and look organic. The others look like a developer was trying to cram too much into too little of a space. It looks forced and unnatural. The walking track on #2 looks like something you’d see at a corporate fitness center, there for bragging rights more than for utility.
I personally feel like we already have so many parks in Calavera Hills. It would be nice to have this park be more of a community athletic center. Love the idea of a track and the pickle ball courts. I would just hate to have this space congested with children. Don't get me wrong, I love kids just would be nice is all I’m saying :)
Walking / jogging track is too short. Needs to be at least 3/4 mile as it is now. We need shade trees, lots of them, along the track.
I like the idea of the walking track encircling most of the park.
First off, your renderings and thoughtfulness are extraordinary! Thank you! Feeling blessed to live within Calavera Hills! The rubberized walking/jogging track is so wonderful. Please consider the design with the fewest "sharp" turns. The more gradual the turns, the better for our body.
This city, compared to other cities didn’t have many places to run. Outside of beach.
What else would you like the city to consider: Other amenities Pool
Bocce ball courts
Skatepark
Beginner friendly skateboarding obstacles (1-3 less is better sometimes) low height ledges around 1 foot tall
dog park, make half of the pickle ball courts for regular tennis Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
66 What else would you like the city to consider: Other amenities Rather than having all the pickleball courts for all of the three designs, can we have a hybrid of tennis/pickleball? Assuming that tennis court is twice the size of the pickleball, for concept #1, 2 tennis courts and 5 pickleball; concept #2, 2 tennis and 4 pickleball; and concept #3, 1 tennis and 4 pickleball.
This would give some option for tennis players like myself and others from Sage Creek High tennis team to practice on the weekend when the school courts are closed. In addition, these additions of the tennis courts would alleviate some pressure from the courts at Calavera and Kelly Parks, which only have 2 courts each and often occupied and we have to wait for our turn,
While I recognize the surging popularity of the pickleball sport, I think it would be fair to have a hybrid concept to accommodate tennis players for working professionals as well as high school players at Sage Creek High.
Thank you for your consideration!
Tennis court conversions at Poinsettia park
As a Pickleball player, I would love to see more courts but I also want to be mindful of the noise and make sure they are away from residents and the fire station.
It would be great if some of the Pickleball courts were set aside like tennis courts - first come first serve with an 60 - 90 minute max use so a family could come and play without having to play against higher level or lower level players. Cottonwood creek currently does this and a lot of people go there simply because of this feature. Granted Poinsettia social / challenge courts are very popular too and great if you don't have a foursome to play with, it doesn't work well for beginners or families.
If you are going to provide brand new pickle ball courts then you need to do the same for existing Tennis Courts as well. Show some kind of appreciation for this ancient game. Keep this in mind, the two games are not compatible. PB is creating a noise level that simply disturbs. It is currently being seen in courts over the decibel levels which are dangerous and Injuries' out distance those of Tennis by a much larger margin. Ask any doctor about these facts. However, the one thing that most people cannot use is..."Good Advice".
Tennis/Pickleball share courts. 2 courts down the middle of the tennis courts (instead of 4).
This allows for the tennis lines to have almost no interference with the PB lines Kindly consider installing ONE Concrete Table Tennis table (cf: Pacific Highlands Ranch Rec Center) with a metal permanent net.
Remember to use experienced pickleball court builders
Some tennis companies cut the corners like a tennis court and that will cause issues and or injuries to players due to wrong lay out
To incorporate tennis courts together with the pickleball courts Can we have a space to take yoga classes indoor ?
Room rental - clubhouse
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
67 What else would you like the city to consider: Other amenities Another swim complex
Fire pits
Coffee shop
several cement ping pong tables with permanent net, guests bring their own paddles and balls
Putting greens
How about 1 or 2 frisbee golf holes?
There is a need for more tennis courts in the community, so it would be nice to add a couple into the space.
Tennis courts
2 tennis courts please
As a resident of Robertson Ranch this park is important to our neighborhood. RR and The Foothills, have recreation areas for small children under 10, but our kids grow up and are being ignored. The teenagers 12+ that live in this area are in need of basketball courts, skate/bike tracks, and the ability for FNL to use the fields for practice. Alga Norte, Poinsettia, and others are a battle to use mainly due to soccer, lacrosse and other group sports.
Areas for bigger kids is important, they need a safe space to play and skateparks would be great. This seems like you are catering to little kids and pickleball players only.
Have a skateboard place for the teenagers et-all. I was hoping for a park as the one in Encinitas memorial park, Their playground is fantastic, so is their skateboarding area. Why a pickleball area. It is only a temporary fad. And the walking area, why not have it go around on the outside of the total park? Just wondering!
Add some bocce courts. There are many parks with active sports choices. Adding bocce would give Seniors a fun social activity they can do at any age.
Dog park, swimming pool
Given the areas history of action sports and skateboarding, it would be great to see some attention paid to bike traffic and action sports. Alga Norte is an incredible facility and the skatepark is one of its main features. Multiple access points for bikes, that could link to trails and provide safety in relation to car traffic would be a great addition Add batting cages and a bull pen. Add an archery range.
Please consider including an area that can be used for target archery (either dedicated or easily converted with storage for target bales). Recurve archery is one of the fastest growing sports in the US and an Olympic sport. The closest ranges are on UCSD campus, Poway (their city makes money on passes to the range), and the Olympic Training Center in Chula Vista. An archery range would also enable the City to keep beautiful open space that does not cause a lot of wear and tear on the physical land without the noise of other sports like pickleball.
Please visit Poway's archery range or Olympic Training Center in Chula Vista for an idea of how beautiful and what kind of people (mostly youth and families) it attracts and revenue it can earn. Please contact me with any follow up questions since I am an archery parent, Level 2 coach and am connected with the USA Archery coaches network.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
68 What else would you like the city to consider: Shade shaded areas of the playground.
Plenty of shade over the playground area as well as enough picnic tables and benches with backs throughout the entire park.
I also like some picnic tables with shade, on a hot summer day, that is necessary! In #2 I particularly love the dry creek bed playground with the adjacent shaded plaza, and the native/sensory gardens.
shade trees or solar trees in the parking area
There is no mention of shade trees in the design concepts. Please incorporate shade trees throughout the park, perhaps along the jogging track. We need more trees.
Shade
Some shade structures near the playground in options 1, 2+3 would be nice.
Also, please include Shaded areas: shade whether from trees, sailcloths, or awnings above seating areas for sports and picnickers.
Love tree lined promenade-unique and shade cover
Love a variety of trees for shade and beauty.
We need a splash pad or some type of water feature with shaded seating and picnic areas nearby!
I think that all Carlsbad parks have room for improvement with respect to shade. I hope that is taken into account here.
Sun shade or cover for kids when playing. The equipment can get so hot it burns them and they can’t play, also no bark bust or sand because of allergies.
Whatever option, it is so important to have trees and ample shade! That is a huge reason to cutting our park time short some days.
shade tarps
trees that will provide shade
shade in different locations
shade structures
shading
Place trees for shade.
lots of trees for shade,
Shading for pickleball courts.
We need shade trees, lots of them, along the track.
Trees or covering that may offer shaded areas
Many trees for shade.
Shade- take several years for trees to mature?
Shade trees
Shaded picnic area
2. Need shade!
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
69 What else would you like the city to consider: Shade shaded seating for reading & resting
Use black sun contractors
Shaded areas
Shaded areas
What else would you like the city to consider: Trails
TRAILS
I like having a trail around the field, the rubberized track is not necessary and is probably expensive? It could be cement, so people could walk around it with strollers or that hard packed sand. I also like the connection of the track to the other trails nearby. I like the board walk to the look out area. That is interesting for adults and kids.
Parking spaces that aren't too small, lots of trees for shade, trash cans next to pickleball courts and along running trail
I thought I would provide a response in my official capacity, with the professional caveat that my expertise is more in programing than park development, but my 35 years of experience would provide the following guidance and recommendations:
First and foremost, the Carlsbad community is extremely fortunate to have opportunity to develop such wonderful parks, trails, greenspaces, and community gathering spaces! This park alone might be the centerpiece for many cities and park districts, but for Carlsbad is one of many similar assets throughout the community.
Also I think the walking/jogging track in option #2 is hands down the best. It is a really great nature trail!
Concerns regarding amount of traffic on trails since it's an animal preserve and keeping trash & debris off trail and preserve. Including animal waste (i.e. - people not picking up after their dogs)
good trail connections to promote visiting the park without getting in a vehicle; etc. The city should be setting the best example that is possible on all aspects of sustainability.
I like a walking / jogging trail mostly around grassy areas, trees, and nature, and I liked both #1 and #3 or even #1 extended.
Walking trails
also feeling “safe” in walking trails with adequate lighting If you put a jogging trail make it natural wood chips NOT artificial rubber.
Adding safe running trails or a fun bike path for little ones.
Critical to have a 1/3 mile running trail.
Please have the walking path connect to the current trail.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
70 What else would you like the city to consider: Trails Quiet areas in natural surroundings should be made available. Interconnecting with the existing hiking trails is very important, because the hiking trails in Robertson Ranch are very short! We have to be creative to go on a hike that’s even as long as 2 miles. Also, if this park could be considered for the TGIF concerts, grassy green area will be needed for picnickers.
Lastly, I would like to make sure that the fitness areas are usable by adults, not just by children.
Multiple access points for bikes, that could link to trails and provide safety in relation to car traffic would be a great addition
I love the soft ground trail. I hate the pavement. Thank you for considering native plants and natural ground.
A nice place to walk through nature, connected to other existing trails if possible Uniqueness and integration. Please consider proximity to all recreation services and overlap of needs/services, e.g., lagoon discovery center has nature trail. Can it be connected? The other major recommendation. I use these trails all the time. Robertson Ranch trails are very used by runners and walkers. I chose number 3 because of the size of the track. It should even be bigger. And whichever of the 3 is chosen, the perimeter trail should have DG instead of or in addition to next to cement so that the distances are extended further and can also be used by the runners that come by the trail. Runners don't want to run on cement. The trails are hilly and runners are looking for flat to run on. We used to be able to do track workouts at Carlsbad High Schools but now the public schools have locked the tracks so the public can't use them. This will be one of the only flat places for runners to use. So, the track should be a major facility of the park and be as long as possible.
1/3 mile walking train is MINIMUM. Should be half mile. A lot of us senior citizens will use the walking trail most in this park. It's a key amenity.
Walking trails
There was talk at meeting of making the focus on seniors. Trails & workout zone. More interested in movement, not eating (picnic areas). While trying to include something for everyone please include senior activities - the population of Carlsbad is aging.
Will the trails accommodate bikes and e-bikes
Maintain walking/biking trails to the park.
Bicycle Racks adjacent to the Access Point to Existing Trails. This is a way for cyclist to get to the park without dealing with the 50mph traffic on the entrance streets at Cannon/El Camino.
-connectivity to the existing Robertson Ranch trails at the west side of the park.
ADA accessible parking and trails near all entrances.
It would be great if we can have the walking jogging/trail go around the whole park not just a certain section.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
71 What else would you like the city to consider: Community garden Don’t care about a community garden or native plants or low water ones.
I thought I would provide a response in my official capacity, with the professional caveat that my expertise is more in programing than park development, but my 35 years of experience would provide the following guidance and recommendations:
First and foremost, the Carlsbad community is extremely fortunate to have opportunity to develop such wonderful parks, trails, greenspaces, and community gathering spaces! This park alone might be the centerpiece for many cities and park districts, but for Carlsbad is one of many similar assets throughout the community.
Obviously Plan 1 has the most amenities and would provide the broadest range of opportunities and diverse usage. However, I think it may ultimately result in “too much of a good thing” and congestion of activities and to broad a mix of active and passive use.
Primarily, that would apply to amenities like a spray/splash pad water feature and community garden. I think these are great amenities, but when combined with all the other park assets may not be the best mix for this development:
Community Garden – Also have experience in this area and, again, unsure if the Community Garden will be a series of privately reserved plots or more of a community garden that is mutually maintained/harvested by City/specific group(s). My experience is Community Gardens are better fit for site with more sedentary or less active amenities. There is question of access to water, is composting allowed on-site, where does organic waste go, is there storage for tools, hoses and equipment on-site and the associated smells of composting and gardening. Plus, having managed gardens in active, community parks there is also much more opportunity for vandalism, misuse or self-harvesting.
I do NOT like #1 for the following reasons: there is already a community garden very close by, on Glasgow Drive. This new design also places both the community garden and the pickleball courts right next to a busy road, which doesn't seem enjoyable. It makes way more sense to place the parking lot along the road, as people won't spend the majority of their time there. #1 also doesn't have the natural feel that makes the other two options special to me.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
72 What else would you like the city to consider: Community garden The Community Garden is an absolute home run! Getting to teach kids about how food is grown and creating a hub for people who really value growing your own food would be an incredible blessing for all. Having sensory gardens and several opportunities to connect with nature within the park is also so well thought out. In today's stressed out world, what a wonderful thing that would be to have for all of us to enjoy. The creative playground is also such a wonderful, forward-looking design element for our kids. Please strongly consider finding a place for it. It would be a huge differentiator for Robertson Ranch Park to have this.
Lastly, I was very active in the info gathering sessions in the early days and feel like the need for more pickleball courts feels overstated. There was a really loud minority that kept mentioning pickleball courts. Most of us don't want them in the park and would much rather have that space put towards a community garden and more general open spaces for folks to enjoy. The large majority of us do not play pickleball nor want it in this beautiful park. Lastly, the open grass spaces are wonderful! Would there be a way to ensure that kids can play there without dogs urinating or defecating there? I know that dogs aren't permitted in parks in Carlsbad but owners do not comply. It makes it really hard to find grass space for our little ones to play and roll around without having to deal with dog urine/poo. You folks are doing amazing with this! Thank you for hearing me out!
My #1 request is a community garden. I live w/in walking to this park and there are a # of senior apartments that have no amenities for this. Also, this provides a social gathering spot for all ages interested in gardening.
It would be a pleasant extra to include some area for a small community garden #3 Expand the community garden at Calavera Hills and use the proposed space to add more courts for pickleball. If there is an abundance of courts then there could be beginners courts so that families could play together. 1 challenge court, multiple intermediate courts to keep it recreational play and fun for everyone.
My 3 favorite features are the sports field, the concessions, and the community garden. My least favorite are the number of pickle ball courts and the fitness area.
Include a community garden
A community garden can provide a space for multigenerational activities/interaction.
Like the community gardens from #1.
Community garden important.
I really love the Agrarian Tapestry design, especially the splash pad and rubberized walking path. However, I would consider eliminating the Community Garden and adding more parking in that space, closer to the sports area. We already have Calavera Park that has a community garden.
Community garden while important benefits only a few families who get a spot. Considering the size of this park and future community gardens already planned by the city in some of the larger parks it will be better to not bring one here
Native plants are critical. Preserve as much native habitat as possible and plant natives in the community garden
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
73 What else would you like the city to consider: Community garden Community garden serves too few people and for a long period of time. The property should prioritize amount of use of the amenities.
I think a community garden is more important than open grass The Community Gardens is very important since some nearby residents do not have a place to grow food. Marja Acres was initially supposed to have gardens but that changed and now there is none. Also having adult swings is very important.
Please consider keeping the section of native garden no matter what design is chosen. With several community gardens already available to the city, a native garden is absolutely critical environmentally and a new feature in Carlsbad.
Removing the 'extra' traffic circle at the top allowing for more community garden space.
The community garden would build a sense of stewardship and care for the park in a way no other feature can
What else would you like the city to consider: Splash pad Obviously Plan 1 has the most amenities and would provide the broadest range of opportunities and diverse usage. However, I think it may ultimately result in “too much of a good thing” and congestion of activities and to broad a mix of active and passive use.
Primarily, that would apply to amenities like a spray/splash pad water feature and community garden. I think these are great amenities, but when combined with all the other park assets may not be the best mix for this development:
Spay/Splash pad water – Not sure if plan is for a recirculated or straight to gray/sewer system, but would assume the former given water conservation standards in southern California. As an agency currently operating two outdoor water features (recirculated), these assets tend to be labor intensive, expensive to maintain and prone to issues especially in mixed use park environment (as opposed to the one at Aqua Norte) where laden for water quality and operational issues. We also have the issue up here that they are seasonal, so certainly have a longer season down there but it can be a large investment for an amenity that is not available year-round. On a positive note, it does provide free access and water play for younger individuals and families who may not have resources for paid aquatics experiences of do not feel safe accessing open water or the beach.
I really love the Agrarian Tapestry design, especially the splash pad and rubberized walking path. However, I would consider eliminating the Community Garden and adding more parking in that space, closer to the sports area. We already have Calavera Park that has a community garden.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
74 What else would you like the city to consider: Splash pad Please include the splash pad. My kids saw all 3 designs and were excited about the possibility. Community garden while important benefits only a few families who get a spot.
Considering the size of this park and future community gardens already planned by the city in some of the larger parks it will be better to not bring one here Need a splash pad!!!! But it could be simple like one found at Hill country galleria in bee cave TX. A water feature for hot days.
Love love love creative nature play akin to botanical garden. A creek could provide the water feature play I think we desperately need.
I just really would love to see a splash pad, the maximum amount of pickleball courts, and plenty of picnic areas near the playground and pickleball.
SPLASH PAD
I don't care for the Splash Pad, kids just stand there and it takes up a lot of space. Kids can run through their own sprinklers! LOL There could be a water feature though. It could be in that open area close to the children's play area. It like the idea of a fountain with a round shallow pool of water (like only 8-10" deep) surrounding it that catches the water. The kids could play with their boats in the water, wade and splash. Liberty Station has those fountains with a round pool surrounding it, but here the kids would be able to stand in the water. The bottom would have to be of some non-slippery material. A fountain will be attractive and pretty to look at. It will create a pleasant sound and be a noise cancelling feature for the traffic and the neighbors. It will also be utilitarian because the kids can play in it when the weather is warm!
Prefer more natural playground and picnic areas that blend into the landscape along with a dry riverbed and rocks verses a splash pad. I like a walking / jogging trail mostly around grassy areas, trees, and nature, and I liked both #1 and #3 or even #1 extended. Love a variety of trees for shade and beauty.
We need a splash pad or some type of water feature with shaded seating and picnic areas nearby! Include playground items that benefit children with special needs, including sensory/interactive areas.
Enough picnic tables near the open grassy areas and especially the play area and splash pad.
The fitness area at calavera hills is hardly ever in use. Very low priority.
Would love a splash pad and nice picnic areas.
Would like the splash pad w/final
It's rarely hot enough for a splash pad (and I have two young kids). May gray, June gloom. It might get used 3-4 months of the year. I am for the most pickleball courts, but they should be oriented N/S so the sun doesn't set over the end. I like the idea of the walking track encircling most of the park.
No splash! Thanks.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
75 What else would you like the city to consider: Splash pad Furthermore, the playground equipment at Tecolote Shores South in Mission Bay is so nice, they have so many unique things (like a zipline!) and the aesthetic is very nice. The aesthetic of playground equipment and landscaping is also very nice at the Waterfront Park in downtown San Diego - the trees are beautiful and they even have a water feature for splashing around!
An extensive splash pad is sorely needed in North County and especially Carlsbad. But I mean an extensive splash pad, not just a few spout holes in the ground with a concrete pad! I mean with water coming also from above and through playground elements. See photos of the two splash pads at https://www.cityofcarrollton.com/departments/departments-g-p/parks- recreation/aquatics/splash-parks. Notice that the Thomas splash pad even has a wonderful "creek" flowing through it! -- kids love to float toys on it! An extensive splash pad is a great way to make the park unique to Carlsbad, and make a low-key family gathering place. (There are plenty of places in North County that have a couple water spouts in a concrete pad, but no real fun splash pads.).
More bathrooms and all with baby changing station. Splash pad that is safe for babies.
The importance of a splash pad and having ample space between the different age groups on the playground. Especially incorporating play equipment for older kids to prevent them from overtaking and inappropriately using the younger kids play space. Ample parking so people don’t monopolize the residential parking.
I would love to see Carlsbad get a splash pad since there are not currently any free options in Carlsbad. I have 5 kids and we would love to see more unique playgrounds in Carlsbad. We like the pictures in the concepts of topographic play experiences and discovery play/creative playgrounds. I hope you take this into consideration! Thank you! I very much liked the sitting plaza of community quilt and would like that to be part of the Agrarian concept. The Splash pad in Agrarian concept is so important. This part of Carlsbad has ALOT of families and kids!!! There are limited waterplay outlets for smaller kids in Carlsbad (i.e. no beach play areas like Oceanside or Encinitas has). But, it needs to be a real splash park not just fountains from the floor but rather a lot of interactive areas (e.g. mini creek to float things down, mini slides, unpredictable spraying, fire hydrant looking umbrella spray, etc. like the W.J. Thomas Splash Park in Carrollton TX which is small footprint but lots of fun areas and types of water play. The website is at:
https://www.cityofcarrollton.com/departments/departments-g-p/parks- recreation/aquatics/splash-parks
Interactive splash pad.
I'd like this park to reflect the private, discrete (not flashy) and local nature of Carlsbad. I wouldn't be interested if everyone from other communities outside Carlsbad bringing their social groups here and overwhelming the park by overusing the tables and that's why I don't like the splash pad idea either. The splash pad reminds me of living in a big metro like Chicago or New York, which is opposite of the small town feel that Carlsbad has Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
76 What else would you like the city to consider: Splash pad I think a splash pad where we always have a drought is a bad idea. I am all for a fun activity space for the children but using water/evaporating water/wasting water seems like it is opposite of what we are suppose to do.
Splash pad
Splash pad water feature is a great way to support many new families with young kids.
Nearest one is La Costa area so this would be very welcomed. There are a lot of other standard parks but limited water splash pad features
At first I Felt strongly that we should have a splash pad in Carlsbad, but if the alternative is an artificial stream with interaction and places for kids to play in the stream water, then I LOVE the natural version instead of a splash pad. The community rendering seems to have everything for everyone. Great plans! Thanks for taking the time to include city feedback! We have a lack of splash pads available to kids locally! Absolutely love the Rolling Hills design (blurring the edge between nature and park), but wish it had a splash pad.
What else would you like the city to consider: Paths
Keep the pickleball courts as far away from kids sports fields and any nature paths.
We are strong on nature, natural walking paths and peaceful environments.
A path for scooters/bikes is great too
I badly need pickleball options but I NEED a bike path. We don't ride on streets. Have to drive far to bicycle. Adult fitness stations along boardwalk.
The carbon footprint of the parks design, maintenance and use... such as: DG or gravel paths not concrete or synthetics
Please keep the walking path/track as far from the field and pickleball courts as possible.
Adding safe running trails or a fun bike path for little ones. bikes, bicycle path or multi-use path or even bike park area. Why does this design have ZERO bike facility?
Bike and scooter path
Connection to bike paths.
walking areas there mostly flat
-Keep the walking path around the fields. Having a walking path near playgrounds will cause interference from users of play areas to those trying to walk/run.
I really love the Agrarian Tapestry design, especially the splash pad and rubberized walking path.
There is no mention of shade trees in the design concepts. Please incorporate shade trees throughout the park, perhaps along the jogging track. We need more trees. Walking/jogging path needs to be longer.
Walking/accessible path from Trailblazer Way into the park and community plaza Critical to have a 1/3 mile running trail.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
77 What else would you like the city to consider: Paths I want to encourage you to make the running and walking track 10 - 12' wide and make it a one way track to avoid collisions. Also recommend requesting strollers to only go 2 wide at the max. if it is a 1/4 mile path. It would be good to have a mark at Start/Finish: 1/8 of a mile 1/12 and 1/16th of a mile. Walkers please stay to the right side of the track and yield to the faster runners and walkers on your left.
This city, compared to other cities didn’t have many places to run. Outside of beach. flat walking area
Maximal walking paths
The longest walking path possible.
Please have the walking path connect to the current trail.
You need a rubber or granite dirt path. That's the most important item. None in the city.
What else would you like the city to consider: Safety and security Spay/Splash pad water – Not sure if plan is for a recirculated or straight to gray/sewer system, but would assume the former given water conservation standards in southern California. As an agency currently operating two outdoor water features (recirculated), these assets tend to be labor intensive, expensive to maintain and prone to issues especially in mixed use park environment (as opposed to the one at Aqua Norte) where laden for water quality and operational issues. We also have the issue up here that they are seasonal, so certainly have a longer season down there but it can be a large investment for an amenity that is not available year-round. On a positive note, it does provide free access and water play for younger individuals and families who may not have resources for paid aquatics experiences of do not feel safe accessing open water or the beach.).
We have been moving away from standard restroom facilities and going more with Portland Loo design which saves space and prevents vandalism and negative behavior associated with enclosed restroom buildings.
shading, noise level for the residents as well as preventing unwelcomed visitors (i.e. homeless or trouble makers) to the residential area behind the park. Consider having some sort of security monitoring system in place.
Lighting, safety, and security should also be part of the design consideration.
No dark zones like Holiday Park for homeless to hide in at night. Lights and safety.
A walking track that is not totally isolated for women to feel safe.
Safe play space for kids of all ages.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
78 What else would you like the city to consider: Safety and security 4) Include dog disposal bag stations to ensure people clean up after their animals. 5) Include warning signs of "No Alcohol Allowed", No Sleeping in the Park, etc. Need to make a conscious effort to ensure the picnic areas and restroom areas do not become home to the "unhoused".
6) Make the Park a great place for children to play with all the right aged playground features. I've been to so many parks with my very young grandsons (2 & 3) and they playground toys are not safe for him. Example: swings are not for toddlers, slides are not small enough, jungle gyms are way to dangerous and openings in the jungle gym where it leads to nothing but falling very far to the ground. Most the time, I walk away scratching my head as to who designed these playgrounds. Please consult experts for specific age groups so we can have an amazing Park for the "littles" as well as the older children and adults.
Please, please have a playground/activity area for 12+ years old! So many of our little ones currently in the nearby communities will be around that age when the park is finished and it would be wonderful to have a safe, amazing spot for their age group instead of it only focusing on little kids. Many communities in Carlsbad have their own little kid playgrounds, but very few cater to older children and adults!
Will the trails accommodate bikes and e-bikes? Will there be secure bike parking racks? Bike theft is HUGE and to encourage riding instead of driving, it's important to provide a way to secure bikes. Bike racks should be in highly visible locations.
Safety of the children’s play areas and how accessible they are to those not visiting the park for the right reasons.
A park is only as good as it is safe and easy to maintain.
Ease of access to restrooms from children’s play area is important, also feeling “safe” in walking trails with adequate lighting
Good lighting/safety.
Lighting, and overall safety for residents
Love the natural play concept for children. Something like the Encinitas botanical garden rock river and play areas would be so amazing. Our kids don’t have access to safe areas to play like that in nature.
Splash pad that is safe for babies. Separating the toddler playground to keep out teenagers who climb on top of the jungle gym supports.
Areas for bigger kids is important, they need a safe space to play and skateparks would be great. This seems like you are catering to little kids and pickleball players only.
A updated playground and some sort of water play area for children would be extremely beneficial for residents to connect while their kids play in a safe environment.
Providing the running track is essential to support residents of all ages with a safe place to run.
Put kids and their safety first. A path for scooters/bikes is great too I think having creative play areas is very important. Adding safe running trails or a fun bike path for little ones.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
79 What else would you like the city to consider: Safety and security Multiple access points for bikes, that could link to trails and provide safety in relation to car traffic would be a great addition
public safety and restrooms
Safety barriers by El Camino Real since it’s a busy street.
What else would you like the city to consider: Picnic areas Drainage ditches that will breed mosquitoes and smell are not desirable to have near playgrounds or picnic areas either.
I just really would love to see a splash pad, the maximum amount of pickleball courts, and plenty of picnic areas near the playground and pickleball.
Love the boardwalk, the creative playgrounds, pickleball courts, large sports park, and some picnic areas. I like the tree lined area but we had those tables at concert park in Playa Vista and they’re not kid friendly. Many kids fell off the chairs and were injured, and there were tons of issues with them. They had to replace them all after a renovation after only 6-8 or so months due to issues.
I love parks and am thankful that Carlsbad has so many parks and open spaces. I like going to parks for the natural beauty, nature, fresh air, picnicking and walking. I am very excited about this new proposed park! It is very close to where I live and I will be using it a lot! I like Option #3 the best because it has a nice layout. Parking that stretches long for easy access to all parts of the park. A larger play area for kids, the walking track, picnicking and grass areas spread out for groups to have some privacy.
PICNIC TABLES
I like the picnic tables in Option 3 because they are spread out in the park, enabling some privacy and different settings. I also like some picnic tables with shade, on a hot summer day, that is necessary! Trash cans are also important to be near the picnic tables. Drinking fountains and a water source is important, not necessarily near the picnic tables, but at least near that concession stand area.
There is a good buffer between active and passive areas. This is close to Calavera Hills so not entirely sure how Carlsbad allocates amenities based on zones or geographic regions and what amenities might be duplicative w/ CH, but seems like some additional picnic shelters would provide more opportunities for community engagement and small pavilion/stage could host smaller Movies in the Park or similar events (but that might be more activity than is desired for passive area).
picnic areas + a picnic area that has multiple picnic tables to accommodate group functions Park areas for family gatherings with picnic areas are important in that so many people live in condos and apartments without space for gatherings. These areas for picnic need some minor food prep areas of perhaps cement tables with water and surface area for food prep, cleaning and hand washing.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
80 What else would you like the city to consider: Picnic areas Like Rolling Hills for picnic areas because they are separated Prefer more natural playground and picnic areas that blend into the landscape along with a dry riverbed and rocks verses a splash pad.
5) Include warning signs of "No Alcohol Allowed", No Sleeping in the Park, etc. Need to make a conscious effort to ensure the picnic areas and restroom areas do not become home to the "unhoused".
We need a splash pad or some type of water feature with shaded seating and picnic areas nearby!
Picnic areas need to be near the playground for functional family use.
Plenty of shade over the playground area as well as enough picnic tables and benches with backs throughout the entire park. Enough picnic tables near the open grassy areas and especially the play area and splash pad.
Would love a splash pad and nice picnic areas.
Make sure picnic area wheelchair accessible
Parking and bbq options. Will there be covered areas in picnic area? There was talk at meeting of making the focus on seniors. Trails & workout zone. More interested in movement, not eating (picnic areas). While trying to include something for everyone please include senior activities - the population of Carlsbad is aging. park options for age 12 and over, increased picnic spots that are scenic and somewhat private scattered about, a pond would be nice
gathering, staging and picnic opportunities
Parking and separating areas so children and adults can enjoy the parks. Picnic tables covered Shaded picnic area
Big garden areas with picnic tables scattered around the garden
What else would you like the city to consider: Bike amenities or bike-related features Will the trails accommodate bikes and e-bikes? Will there be secure bike parking racks? Bike theft is HUGE and to encourage riding instead of driving, it's important to provide a way to secure bikes. Bike racks should be in highly visible locations.
Put kids and their safety first. A path for scooters/bikes is great too Adding safe running trails or a fun bike path for little ones.
Given the areas history of action sports and skateboarding, it would be great to see some attention paid to bike traffic and action sports. Alga Norte is an incredible facility and the skatepark is one of its main features. Multiple access points for bikes, that could link to trails and provide safety in relation to car traffic would be a great addition Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
81 What else would you like the city to consider: Bike amenities or bike-related features bike parking; good trail connections to promote visiting the park without getting in a vehicle; etc. The city should be setting the best example that is possible on all aspects of sustainability.
E-bike parking area. Due to the many schools in the area. Elementary, junior high & high school. Consider light and noise pollution for the neighboring residents.
As a resident of Robertson Ranch this park is important to our neighborhood. RR and The Foothills, have recreation areas for small children under 10, but our kids grow up and are being ignored. The teenagers 12+ that live in this area are in need of basketball courts, skate/bike tracks, and the ability for FNL to use the fields for practice. Alga Norte, Poinsettia, and others are a battle to use mainly due to soccer, lacrosse and other group sports.
Maintain walking/biking trails to the park.
bikes, bicycle path or multi-use path or even bike park area. Why does this design have ZERO bike facility?
Bicycle Racks adjacent to the Access Point to Existing Trails. This is a way for cyclist to get to the park without dealing with the 50mph traffic on the entrance streets at Cannon/El Camino.
amenities for bicyclists: air stations for tires, places to park and lock bikes, filtered water fountain
No drones or e-bikes.
Bike park for kids to ride around like a mini kid land.
It's difficult to know how many parking spaces are in each option (the more the better).
Because of the proximity to El Camino Real and Cannon Rd, I would not feel comfortable biking to the park.
Make a fun teen level bike park section with different hills and small jumps.
I badly need pickleball options but I NEED a bike path. We don't ride on streets. Have to drive far to bicycle.
The various forms of transportation. (Cars, bikes, scooters, and walkers) Biking area
Is there a space to lock up your bike?
Bike and scooter path
Connection to bike paths.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
82 What else would you like the city to consider: Park uses and programming Can we have a space to take yoga classes indoor ?
I like the idea of having stadium grass seating with an area for live music performances at the park, or general events at the park. I used to live in a community and on the first Friday of the month there would be a local music artist concert that would perform and food vendors would come and it was about $5 a person. Great time to bring the community together and raise funds for the park! Also I think the walking/jogging track in option #2 is hands down the best. It is a really great nature trail!
Opportunities to have concerts and fun events at this park Space for outdoor concerts
Room rental - clubhouse
2) Additionally, the curbs should be painted on Trailblazer that indicates "NO Park Parking".
The cul-de-sac is completely full with cars when the Fire Station has an event/meeting so we've seen what will happen, there will be no parking space for homeowners on Trailblazer. 5) Include warning signs of "No Alcohol Allowed", No Sleeping in the Park, etc. Need to make a conscious effort to ensure the picnic areas and restroom areas do not become home to the "unhoused".
People need opportunities to connect and form community bonds, which is very hard nowadays, especially for youth and young adults. Community events, activities, fitness areas and more.
I thought I would provide a response in my official capacity, with the professional caveat that my expertise is more in programing than park development, but my 35 years of experience would provide the following guidance and recommendations:
First and foremost, the Carlsbad community is extremely fortunate to have opportunity to develop such wonderful parks, trails, greenspaces, and community gathering spaces! This park alone might be the centerpiece for many cities and park districts, but for Carlsbad is one of many similar assets throughout the community.
There is a good buffer between active and passive areas. This is close to Calavera Hills so not entirely sure how Carlsbad allocates amenities based on zones or geographic regions and what amenities might be duplicative w/ CH, but seems like some additional picnic shelters would provide more opportunities for community engagement and small pavilion/stage could host smaller Movies in the Park or similar events (but that might be more activity than is desired for passive area).
Not sure of the scope of concessions, but a newer trend is to have more of incubator for local food entrepreneurs to host food trucks or similar instead of standard park concessions.
We always get request for fenced, off-leash area or dog park as part of the design.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
83 What else would you like the city to consider: Park uses and programming Noise abatement
- Car doors, engines, loud voices
Traffic jams - El Camino Real & Cannon
Noise pollution
- P.A. systems, cheering crowds, bands/music/half-time shows Park programming of events and private organized athletic events -- what are your projections?
Potential light pollution every night with lights on until 11 p.m.
Are there plans to build on the existing fire station property? Like venue for events and parking.
Please make this available for the city of Carlsbad sports TGIF concerts
As a resident of Robertson Ranch this park is important to our neighborhood. RR and The Foothills, have recreation areas for small children under 10, but our kids grow up and are being ignored. The teenagers 12+ that live in this area are in need of basketball courts, skate/bike tracks, and the ability for FNL to use the fields for practice. Alga Norte, Poinsettia, and others are a battle to use mainly due to soccer, lacrosse and other group sports.
Also, if this park could be considered for the TGIF concerts, grassy green area will be needed for picnickers.
Area for concerts(e.g. Concerts in the park)
Dedicated lacrosse area/option would be nice
I liked that the rubberized track in option #3 encompasses the playing fields. This gives parents an opportunity for exercise while a younger child is at practice on that field. I would also like to see a simple concrete wall for lacrosse "wall ball" or handball.
Enough distance from (x) so coaches can coach.
Please consider sewing lacrosse lines into one of the two turf fields Make the field accessible to Lacrosse as well as soccer.
What else would you like the city to consider: Support amenities Water bottle refill stations near the playground and not just near the bathroom complexes.
Drinking fountains and a water source is important, not necessarily near the picnic tables, but at least near that concession stand area.
trash cans next to pickleball courts and along running trail Not sure of the scope of concessions, but a newer trend is to have more of incubator for local food entrepreneurs to host food trucks or similar instead of standard park concessions.
Access to enough bathrooms and water fountains.
Drinking Fountains and Bathroom
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
84 What else would you like the city to consider: Support amenities I like the idea of having stadium grass seating with an area for live music performances at the park, or general events at the park. I used to live in a community and on the first Friday of the month there would be a local music artist concert that would perform and food vendors would come and it was about $5 a person. Great time to bring the community together and raise funds for the park!
dog water fountains
amenities for bicyclists: air stations for tires, places to park and lock bikes, filtered water fountain
Water refill stations readily available
Placement of trash and recycling
Drinking water and bottle fill stations at multiple locations Benches to watch pickle ball
Plenty of garbage and recycling receptacles.
include hand washing station
More bathrooms and all with baby changing station.
What else would you like the city to consider: Restroom We have been moving away from standard restroom facilities and going more with Portland Loo design which saves space and prevents vandalism and negative behavior associated with enclosed restroom buildings.
5) Include warning signs of "No Alcohol Allowed", No Sleeping in the Park, etc. Need to make a conscious effort to ensure the picnic areas and restroom areas do not become home to the "unhoused".
D. Restrooms be equidistant from all. (Option 3)
More bathrooms and all with baby changing station.
Bathrooms in the park
More than one bathroom facility.
Water bottle refill stations near the playground and not just near the bathroom complexes.
Access to enough bathrooms and water fountains.
More than one restroom.
Ease of access to restrooms from children’s play area is important public safety and restrooms
centrally located restrooms
Adding another set of bathrooms at opposite side of park; especially near pickleball courts.
There needs to be bathrooms at either end of park
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
85 What else would you like the city to consider: Restroom Additionally, making sure there are plenty of space for garbage to be thrown away and public restrooms.
It's a large park, two restrooms might be necessary.
Bathrooms please
Two restroom locations, possibly one for the soccer/baseball area.
Drinking Fountains and Bathroom
What else would you like the city to consider: Fitness area I like #2 and #3 best, for different reasons. In #2 I particularly love the dry creek bed playground with the adjacent shaded plaza, and the native/sensory gardens. In #3 I love the organic "softened" feel, the "nature" playground, the board walk, the multiple fitness stations, and the long parking lot that allows direct access to different zones of the park. The walking/jogging tracks look good in all 3 options, but I prefer #3 because of how it blends the walking with the fitness stations.
FITNESS AREAS
I think the fitness areas should be removed. I do not like fitness areas in parks, I never see people using them and it is a waste of space and money. People like to work out in a gym or in privacy, not at a public park….and I don't like looking at someone doing chin ups or using the exercising equipment at the park. (Seeing people walking or jogging is okay!) Look at the new exercise equipment park on the corner of Carlsbad Village Drive and Glasgow?? It isn't used very much.
Like Rolling Hills for fitness because of spread out stations (spaced) With regard to the fitness area. I made this recommendation before you built the new fitness area in Calavera Hills. The one in Calavera is not used by anyone. It is a good idea but the choice of equipment was terrible. It should actually be real and usable equipment if you are going to do it at all. AARP has some recommendations and even some funding. But, other locations have actually had real and usable workout equipment. Like Venice Beach. Not toys for kids to climb on.
#3 looks like it’s well designed to blend with the space and look organic. The others look like a developer was trying to cram too much into too little of a space. It looks forced and unnatural. The walking track on #2 looks like something you’d see at a corporate fitness center, there for bragging rights more than for utility.
Adult fitness stations along boardwalk.
People need opportunities to connect and form community bonds, which is very hard nowadays, especially for youth and young adults. Community events, activities, fitness areas and more.
Fitness parks are a waste of space - people say they want them but never get used.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
86 What else would you like the city to consider: Fitness area More natural looking materials for play structures and fitness stations. Main reason why I prefer option #3 Rolling Hills.
Eliminating the fitness areas, not having lighting for the fields so they are daylight use only or making sure the lighting does not impact the homes on the park! Enough parking so our street is not impacted.
Make it a fitness park for people jogging and working out solo. Lots of different low- maintenance (metal) outdoor stations (like pull-up bars, various body weight using machines). I have seen this in other states.
My 3 favorite features are the sports field, the concessions, and the community garden. My least favorite are the number of pickle ball courts and the fitness area.
Promote a positive environment by strategically placing the fitness area at a distance from the playgrounds, ensuring that the children's play area remains exclusively for their enjoyment. This thoughtful design helps create a more inviting and comfortable atmosphere, emphasizing the importance of a dedicated space for children to play without any interference.
Lastly, I would like to make sure that the fitness areas are usable by adults, not just by children.
The fitness area at calavera hills is hardly ever in use. Very low priority.
What else would you like the city to consider: Accessibility Look at parks like Rotary Play garden in San Jose, Magical Bridges in Palo Alto, and incorporate inclusive designs for all generations. Also, limit Pickle Ball courts. I believe this huge investment for a trend will die down and be wasted space in the coming years. Parking in #3 is ideal allowing visitors to park near where they want to visit the park and helps provide access to all abilities.
I would like the disabled to be considered when planning the final design of the park. make many areas wheelchair friendly.
Handicap accessibility to all games specially the playground so wheelchair children can also enjoy It. Take a look at “magic Park” in Hayward Mia’s Dream Come True: All Abilities Playground.
Flat walking areas and connecting parking for people with disabilities and mobility problems and concerns.
Is accessible for those w/disabilities (like Courtney's Sandcastle in San Clemente) Wheelchair track as long as possible with side areas to sit + watch the activities on sports fields. Areas to view gardens without crossing grass. Where it could be peaceful.
Make sure picnic area wheelchair accessible
walking areas there mostly flat
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
87 What else would you like the city to consider: Accessibility Accessibility and limited mobility should be addressed in any design picked. The distance from blue parking to features like playground and ball field should be as short as possible.
Enough handicap parking, benches, shade in different locations Please use handicap/ special needs playground equipment such as the seat swings. A lot of those children go to school down the street at Kelly elementary multigenerational use and handicap access.
What else would you like the city to consider: Boardwalk I like the board walk to the look out area. That is interesting for adults and kids.
In #3 I love the organic "softened" feel, the "nature" playground, the board walk, the multiple fitness stations, and the long parking lot that allows direct access to different zones of the park.
Rolling Hills is a softer design. I like the boardwalk over the bioswale as a lovely design as well as an educational opportunity to explain water runoff control importance Like boardwalk features in gardens/drainage areas
Please incorporate the viewpoint for the drainage area in all on the concepts
What else would you like the city to consider: Drainage naturalistic drainage design that makes evident how water is used (not just submerging flows into subsurface pipes)
Like boardwalk features in gardens/drainage areas
Drainage ditches that will breed mosquitoes and smell are not desirable to have near playgrounds or picnic areas either.
Rolling Hills is a softer design. I like the boardwalk over the bioswale as a lovely design as well as an educational opportunity to explain water runoff control importance Permeable paving - would be essential for the large parking areas of #1 & #2 and easily incorporated into #3
I am concerned with the rubberized track for walking/jogging. Would rather see some natural materials such as decomposed granite which allows for water absorption. Need to take into consideration of water flow when it rains. Does water need to be diverted into the creek opposite the park.
Please incorporate the viewpoint for the drainage area in all on the concepts Flood control
Water system
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Verbatim survey comments
Winter 2024
88 What else would you like the city to consider: Public art Cool hip art would also bring a little culture to this vanilla city.
Statues to make it look unique
Art
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Emailed comments
Winter 2024
89 Emailed comments
From: Diane Nygaard <[email protected]>
Sent on: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 11:45:01 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
CC: Rosanne Humphrey <[email protected]>; Karen Merrill <[email protected]>
Subject: Comments on Robertson Ranch Park Concepts
Hi Mr Stupin
Our comments on this project apply to all of the concept proposals for the park. Our concern is really how this project interfaces with the adjacent sensitive habitat and wildlife movement corridor through this part of Carlsbad.
Please consider these comments as concept design proceeds and through the environmental review for this project.
- Design to highest LEED certification standards
Note - this request is for eligibility and not actual LEED certification. There was substantial discussion about sustainability design at the Planning Commission hearing for Veteran's park. While there was consideration for natural light and air circulation with the restroom design for that park, it fell short of considering all of the sustainability provisions that are included in LEED. It helps achieve GHG reduction goals when public agencies set the standard. Please consider rooftop solar and other GHG reduction/sustainability measures as part of the design for this project. LEED eligibility provides a good basis for considering a broad range of sustainability issues.
- Potential edge effect impacts on the adjacent habitat
Both the MHCP and City's HMP detail edge effect conditions that should be addressed with development next to sensitive habitat. Lighting, trash, and dogs are just a few of the potential impacts. The concept designs do not even discuss the project in terms of its location adjacent to habitat, with connectivity to the Agua Hedionda Lagoon. This analysis should consider width and location of buffers, as well as situating potential land uses that could impact the habitat on other parts of the site.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Emailed comments
Winter 2024
90 - Opportunity to improve wildlife movement through this area of Carlsbad
This is a key link in the wildlife movement corridor in this part of the city. There are existing box culverts under Cannon Rd that connect the habitat on each side of Cannon Rd.. There also is a culvert under El Camino Real that connects to Agua Hedionda lagoon. That culvert was the subject of previous work to evaluate how its function for wildlife movement could be improved. The recommendation was to install a suspended shelf that connects to the slope on each end. This would allow small animals to avoid the water that often impedes passage through the culvert. This kind of shelf has been used to retrofit numerous other culverts all over this country. There may also be some newer options that could be considered. The key is that this project could help with wildlife movement, or create one more barrier.
We would be happy to take you on a field trip to see how the project interfaces with the habitat and wildlife movement corridor.
Diane Nygaard
On Behalf of Preserve Calavera
From: Carlsbad Web Team <[email protected]>
Sent on: Friday, February 9, 2024 11:34:17 PM
To: Communications <[email protected]>
Subject: Feedback for Carlsbad, CA
You have received this feedback from BJ Boland < [email protected] > for the following page:
https://www.carlsbadca.gov/departments/parks-recreation/parks-community- centers/parks/future-park-planning/robertson-ranch-park
I am very impressed with the options. And though I play a senior version of pickleball, I would hate to impinge on my neighbors: the noise of the ball would drive me crazy. I was also hoping we could add art to the entry area, near gardens/greenscape, near benches/picnic areas, etc.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Emailed comments
Winter 2024
91 From: Carlsbad Web Team <[email protected]>
Sent on: Monday, February 19, 2024 7:47:37 PM
To: Communications <[email protected]>
Subject: Feedback for Carlsbad, CA
You have received this feedback from Petra J Michael < [email protected] > for the following page:
https://www.carlsbadca.gov/departments/parks-recreation/parks-community- centers/parks/future-park-planning/robertson-ranch-park-concept-designs
Thanks for sharing. I would select concept #1 as it offers 9 pickleball courts. Thank you
From: Carlsbad Web Team <[email protected]>
Sent on: Thursday, February 22, 2024 8:24:46 PM
To: Communications <[email protected]>
Subject: Feedback for Carlsbad, CA
You have received this feedback from Doug Siemons < [email protected] > for the following page:
https://www.carlsbadca.gov/departments/parks-recreation/parks-community- centers/parks/future-park-planning/robertson-ranch-park-concept-designs
Pickleball area needs covered area for waiting players and a covered area with picnic type tables for gatherings and transitions. Vital for protection from the sun while not playing.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Emailed comments
Winter 2024
92 From: Carlsbad Web Team <[email protected]>
Sent on: Friday, January 26, 2024 2:30:46 PM
To: Communications <[email protected]>
Subject: Feedback for Carlsbad, CA
You have received this feedback from Cathy Cranston <
[email protected] > for the following page:
https://www.carlsbadca.gov/departments/parks-recreation/parks-community- centers/parks/future-park-planning/robertson-ranch-park-concept-designs
PLEASE include a dog park at your Robertson Ranch Park plan. And please partition off some of that dog park for little dogs (remember to make that pen with smaller fence openings, and the lowest barrier has to keep the little rascals from slipping under). THIS IS MUCH BETTER than "public art" which is usually annoying and controversial. Some shade in the dog park is also good.
From: AT&T"" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 2:19 PM
To: Communications <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: City Manager’s Update: Feb. 29, 2024
HI, I READ YOUR POST EVERY WEEK. WE HAVE LIVED IN CARLSBAD FOR 37 YEARS. WE ARE
NOT REALLY PARK USERS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU ABOUT SOMETHING I HAVE OPSURIDE AT THE PARK IN CALAVERA HILLS.
WHEN I LEAVE MY HOME, I USE HAVRICH STREET TO GO TO CARLSBAD, VILLAGE DRIVE AND TURN RIGHT. i HAVE NOT EVER SEEN ANYONE USING THE NEW FRSIBEE AREA AT THE PARK .I THINK IT IS A GOLF AREA WITH A FRIZBEE. i WANT THE GROUP TO THINK TWICE ABOUT PUTTING THIS AREA IN THE NEW PARK.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Emailed comments
Winter 2024
93 From: Trinity Vernazza <[email protected]>
Sent on: Friday, January 26, 2024 4:40:12 AM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>; Scott
Chadwick <[email protected]>
Subject: Fwd: City Manager’s Update: Jan. 25, 2024
Hello Mr Stupin & Mr Chadwick,
Wow, I'm so impressed with these design options! Thank you for all of your hard work to make this happen! I'm unable to meet on Saturday, but I just signed up to receive the survey.
Best regards,
Trinity Vernazza
From: Josh <[email protected]>
Sent on: Friday, January 26, 2024 5:46:28 AM
To: Communications <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: City Manager’s Update: Jan. 25, 2024
You guys are sellouts to Robertson ranch. You are a disgrace to Carlsbad and ruining my home town. Such a disgrace what you did to that area. :/
Sent from my iPhone
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Emailed comments
Winter 2024
94 From: Heidi Willes <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 12:10 PM
To: Parks and Recreation <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson Ranch Park designs
As 26-year-residents of Olde Carlsbad who raised our kids in Carlsbad schools and are excited to have grandchildren in the area, too, we just wanted to express that we would LOVE a Carlsbad park with a splash pad!!!! And it seems like so many other families and extended families would appreciate that, as well. Maybe even some grandparents who may not have thought to get on the website to share their input.
This just seems like a feature that we're lacking in Carlsbad recreation areas, which we would love to see at Robertson Ranch.
Thank you for your time, consideration... and service to our city!!
Heidi Willes
760-434-8770
From: Andra Kairath <[email protected]>
Sent on: Saturday, January 27, 2024 12:06:57 AM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson Ranch
Hello,
The more parks, the better. Please put in four pickleball courts. You can add two at Calaveras. Thank you.
Sent from my iPhone
From: Denise Pauly-Hovey <[email protected]>
Sent on: Sunday, January 28, 2024 9:51:52 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson Ranch community public park
Just wondering what happened to having concrete ping pong tables? Carlsbad has so many pickleball and sports fields and we could REALLY USE some ping pong tables. Residents can provide their own paddles and balls….
Please reply, we would really like this! And the smaller the sports fields and the larger the picnic, ping pong walking trails there could be the more peaceful and beautiful it would be! Thanks,
Denise and Ian Hovey
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Emailed comments
Winter 2024
95 From: Bryce DeQuoy | RDQ <[email protected]>
Sent on: Tuesday, January 30, 2024 3:35:21 AM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson Ranch Park - Proposed Design
Hi Nick,
I received the proposed plan for the Robertson Ranch Park today and must voice some concerns with the planned entrance/exit. I am a homeowner in the Foothills Neighborhood and myself and others in the neighborhood believe having any entrance at all via The Foothills is going to negatively increase traffic in our neighborhood. I noticed that all 3 concepts have a primary access point through our neighborhood, while a secondary access point is being called out as a potential.
I understand that there will be an increased cost of construction to add the primary access point off of Cannon road, but limiting traffic near the fire station and neighbors seems to be a better option.
Further – After attending Friday Night Lights at Poinsettia, I am well aware that these public fields can become inundated with come and go traffic, getting congested rapidly with frustrated parents trying to get to games on time. I’d suggest in the parking lot sizing planning that the engineer recognizes these larger events. If overflow is needed, there are no alternatives to parking besides congesting our neighborhood.
Thanks,
Bryce DeQuoy P.E.* | Senior Engineer
616-951-2444 | www.r-d q.com
*Registered Professional Civil Engineer in AL, CA, CO, FL, GA, MI, NC, OH & SC
From: Alex Hamner <[email protected]>
Sent on: Friday, February 23, 2024 6:25:46 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Robertson Ranch
Hi Nick,
I've been a resident of Carlsbad for over 30 years, have put my children through the Carlsbad school system, and have also had my business in Carlsbad for over 30 years. It's very exciting that Carlsbad is starting to understand the need for pickleball courts. I can't stress enough how having a lot of courts in any given location is hugely preferable to having a few courts sprinkled around various parks. Pickleball is different than other sports, such as tennis or volleyball or basketball to name a few, in that group play where individuals show up at non-specified times to play and socialize with whoever is already playing. And Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Emailed comments
Winter 2024
96 they will play for HOURS this way, mixing in with people they don't know of ages ranges from 8 up to who knows how old (I've experienced it every time I play at Poinsettia.)
It's great that Carlsbad realizes they are sorely behind in the need for courts. Yes there are 6 at Poinsettia so far, with 4 more at two other parks and hopefully at least 9 going in at Robertson Ranch. But I'd like to opine that for a city of our population, that's very few courts - especially since they are spread out. Again, pickleball is a social sport where the players socialize with each other whether they know them or not - and it is amazing for the health and well being of the citizens. Which is another reason why a lot of courts in one place is preferable.
Lastly, I would like to offer to help as a sounding board for the layout of the pickleball courts. At no cost to the city. I've been playing competitive pickleball for 15 years, for which I was inducted into the Pickleball Hall of Fame in 2020, and I am on the Board of Directors at Naples Pickleball Center, Pickleball Capital of the World, in Florida - where we run the 65 court complex that is in a single location at a County-owned public park. So I feel I have some decent experience to bring to the table. I'm hoping Carlsbad will seize the opportunity to use my input on the pickleball courts.
Thank you,
Alex Hamner
760.521.9982
From: Kathy Kinane <[email protected]>
Sent on: Thursday, January 25, 2024 5:01:15 PM
To: Nick Stupin <[email protected]>
Subject: Update on run/walk track at Robertson Ranch park
Hi Nick,
Just checking on status of the Robertson Ranch park plan
Thanks a bunch.
Kathy Kinane
Executive Director - Move Your Feet Before You Eat@ Foundatio Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Social media comments
Winter 2024
97 Social media comments
Instagram
gladepro Welcome to Orange County. Let’s build on EVERYTHING we possibly can.
s_fiust Splash pad!
lisa.marie.beveridge Dog park - and off-leash dog trails 🙌 christinemicha Why can’t you ever leave open space alone ? jeremyjohnson766 don't screw up? like at the other parks in Carlsbad, and provide adequate parking!!!!
simran.kaur.02 ꇙᗴᑎᗪ<ᑭᎥᑕ ♂4⁷@california.circle_
christinelabounty_realestate @brentlabounty
jaybird929 What happened to the pump track? Disappointed its not in any options when it was in all the original drawings.
joel___parker
@carlsbadcagov please look at the skateboard pump track in Del Mar. The park is relatively small and always packed with people of all abilities. It would be a great addition to the park and loved by the community.
adrielhampton
Great public meeting format! Thanks for having coffee and snacks and even an activity table for our kiddo. Great
designs and concepts - very exciting! Glad to be
Carlsbadians ❤
joel___parker A skatepark would be great!
isaiah_wheyland Needs a skate park
mtmcd71 Guess it comes down to whether you want foul balls picking off pickleballers or parked cars. Option 3 for the win
_richthestitch It’s Gonna Be A Riot When The Pickle-ball Fade ENDS😂😂😂😂😂
que_viva_la_selecion_de_esp
ana More homeless people going to hang out lol
_richthestitch What Happens In 5 Years When The Pickleball Fad Ends 😂😂😂😂
itsjackielyon @_richthestitch then they can turn it into a skate park ec.studio2012 Ummmm I don’t see a skate park. Nor a splash pad. Sooo go ahead and send us some new ones.
littlebear024 @ec.studio2012 splash pad in option 1
ec.studio2012 @littlebear024 😂 oh yeah… thanks!
caitlin_elizabeth._ Option 1. So glad the city is listening to the community needs and building more Pickleball courts! 😍👏
ooolalee @caitlin_elizabeth._ we’ll see 🥴
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Social media comments
Winter 2024
98 Instagram
buywithbri
I like the splash pad, native gardens, lookout/view point, walking perimeter, what’s a creative playground? Bathrooms close proximity to the children’s area is preferred, when they have to go they have to go.
buywithbri Concessions is a cool idea too like at moonlight beach buywithbri And tables throughout for picnics etc (not necessarily bbqs?) for the playground forget the wood chips
fullcirclesoundhealing Option 1!!!
dontlookatmypics
Glad to see the native gardens considered, but I don’t understand why it isn’t a feature in all the designs. Native species should be the only things you are planting as far as decorative landscaping goes. It would be backwards to plant anything else while the city/state limit water use of citizens. Not to mention they are living educational resource, better assets to the wildlife, and just as pretty as all the more commonly planted stuff. Community garden is awesome to see also. I’d love to gather with other locals to share knowledge and improve our community.
geoff82starkey Option 1 with splash pad
alicekanghan Option 1 or 2 looks great! Have more fun, play pickleball. 😅 _victoriaearle_ Splash pad, native garden and community garden heather_m_galarza Option1 has the biggest pickleball area heidijuly.hair
I’m wondering how parking in each differs. Which provides more parking? Will Carlsbad ever create a sports complex to support youth sports events?
pickleball_diaries Can’t wait for more pickleball courts! Such a fun social sport for all ages! ❤
clgame Option 1, we need more community gardens.
erin_kowald Option 1. Love the splash pad.
zaklkatz 9 courts 🙌🙌🙌🔥🔥🔥
theresesdhomes Did i miss the dog park? Calavera Hills needs a Dog park. beckstravels1
Having a park where I could walk my dog would be appreciated.
Not a dog park, but being able to use the outside space to hang out with my family (dog included).
_richthestitch @beckstravels1 You Can Do That Now😂
beckstravels1 @_richthestitch dogs are not allowed in Carlsbad city parks unless they are in a designated dog park.
_richthestitch
@beckstravels1 😂😂😂 Been Running My Dog At Holiday, Pine For Years, This Is Right There With No E-bikes And BOOZE In The Parks😂😂 #welcometocarlsbad
herahubcarlsbad #3!
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Social media comments
Winter 2024
99 Instagram
jeff_klassen
Option 1 looks great, but ditch the fitness equipment (there is already some up the street at Calavera park) and add a few skateable features in the upper left corner. 🛹 ॠ
dygos2 6 pickleball courts and no tennis????? 🎾 :(
morewithgurl
Community and native gardens are great!! If more dog friendly paths/tracks can be added that’d be amazing. Agreed with a comment above that pickleball can be played on a a tennis court, there should be multi-use sports areas to accommodate more interests. Splash pad sound awesome!
kelly__browne #1 splash pad!! 👏
dr__monica Number 1 but with a splash pad!!
raquelmin Option 1 🙌
thegoldenwest Splash pad! Also love a good perimeter path for kids to ride bikes. cryinginararri I’m blind. Can you please make sure everything is accessible please
proctor43 I like the splash pad. Give us some shade structures as well. seany_d Less pickleball and more trees and tables
gilbert.woodworks No tennis courts at all? Pickleball can be played on a tennis court…
motoraw
Scratch the pickle ball courts. It's a waste of money. That trend will die in a few years. Scratch the community garden too. Build a BMX pump track and a natural MTB course.
whereisconninow @motoraw there is a pump track going in at Veteran’s Park about a mile away.
mageelovesbio
Definitely 9 pickle ball courts, the more the better. A splash pad would be great for young kids and make this park unique from other parks in Carlsbad.
pearsonfamilia
It’s sad that so many other park amenities have been asked for over the years and yet pickleball seems to be the only request granted ұ
travisblalock
Pickleball is popular now, but imagine this design 30 years ago.
People would be pumped about a lawn bowling area. Stuff like that doesn’t age well. Baseball/soccer/picnic/gardens. Versatile and time tested.
pocitelli_fantastico #3 looking good
eoja44 Please, make a playground challenge enough for elementary school aged children!
tkarnold58 Love the rubberized track, the longer the better, the lookout and the native garden.
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Social media comments
Winter 2024
100
Instagram
flyingmike0
Your kids will grow and you won’t use the splash pad. Make something universal and beneficial for everyone that’s not focused on small segment.
paige_heidrich Option 1, minus the fitness station! Unfortunately the ones at Calavera park barely get any use
5point6 Which ever has the smallest pickleball court the furthest from anyone with ears. 🙉
mmb1103 Option 1. No pickleball. It’s a trend. Tennis courts for the purists or a bike pump track.
ginagmuer Excited for for our city to have another great outdoor space for everyone to enjoy. I like option #1 😊
thors_hammer Make the padded running trail around the entire park. topbunktraxy How about a turf putting green section so families can have fun and get the kiddos interested without having to go to a course samcorace #1
adam_stephenb
Option 1 with the splash pad 💦. Young families would really value a close proximity water element for kids @chloerathje @larsrathje @britten80 @geoff82starkey @aleksdanielle
1mariposita Where are the bike pump tracks?? The kids need a place for that in north Carlsbad please!!
transcribeskateboarding
Change the pickleball courts to tennis courts. Pickleball can be played on tennis courts, and you can include the pickleball lines on the tennis courts. Multiple games of pickleball can be played on one tennis court to accommodate crowds. If/when the
pickleball trend fades away, then at least the courts can be used for other sports, as tennis cannot be played on pickleball courts. cbadchad MORE BASEBALL 💎💎s ‼
thegoldenwest Love everything about design 1 except missing skate park. laurengladney 1 or 3 with an added skate/pump track area please! 👏 fogelnoah 9 courts for sure
lyonsacu Option 1!
aemery4444 Fitness center near the track. Are the track different lengths in design?
stevendelhudson Option 1
ambernoelle90 Option 1 👏
amedee360 Where is the bike component @sdmba
larawalkercbad I like #1!!
cheyanneblack Option 1
haustay #1! 🙌
ktlandis #1!
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Social media comments
Winter 2024
101
Instagram
casa_de_carlos #1
laura_maria_ramos Option 1. Splash pad!
maters32 Option 1
torchterry1 #1 looks amazing!
ferfy65 First one
sara.p.cunningham Splash pad!!
j._.fuego (PICTURE)
larsrathje Option 1 with the splash pad
pamcolevibe
I like the second one where the Pickleball courts are out near the street and away from the playground/picnic area. I have seen articles where people are complaining about pickle ball noise so it’s good do you have them but they are away from where people are sitting/living.
knight_by_the_sea # 1
fromsftosd Option 1 with pickleball courts far from homes. Agree with others re the skateboard park. Can’t wait!
fromsftosd Oh and I would add a bathroom by the courts and baseball field in option 1
janelleperegoy Community garden and splash pad were my favorite features! brittany_painter14 3, with added splash pad. Less Pickleball courts to re-do when everyone stops playing it. Maybe a water feature?
danicanelson1 I like 3 best!
gary.w.fuller As long as there is a quiet area to relax and contemplate, I’ll be happy.
zeeg123 1st one if I had to pick. But agree can a walking path be made near the rubber track for people and their dogs?
valcarey2.0 I love the idea of a splash pad and the rubberized track ! My family would enjoy that and a community garden the most indy.pale.ale Skatepark missing
_theblssdmama_ Splash pad , community garden , picnic tables and bathrooms near the park 👏
s_fiust Splash pad, please!
chantil_or_til After reviewing the information from the city of Carlsbad website, I like option 3 the most, followed by option 1. harveydentjohnson
Hello @carlsbadcagov. I love my community of Carlsbad and feel so welcome at the local shops and many restaurants. I bring smiles to everyone I meet yet I am not allowed in any of Carlsbad’s parks. Who do I need to charm to be able to hang out with my family and community at a Carlsbad city park or beach?
Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park Public Input Report
Social media comments
Winter 2024
102
Facebook
Sandi Modrcin Hayes Tennis courts
Suzanne Fischer Sandi Modrcin Hayes the legend is at the bottom of each image, they are Pickleball courts
Sandi Modrcin Hayes Thank you. Yes, I was actually bemoaning the lack of tennis courts.
Lea Marie San no dog park
Brittany Stalica Make traffic enter from the main street, instead of the neighborhood
Bill Kirnik Pickle ball couts pleas
Move Your Feet Before
you Eat! Foundation
Thank you so much for offering a 1/4 mile or 1/3 mile run/walk track
Lindsey Addae Sports fields yessss!
Mike Flanagan
6-9 pickleball courts and no dog park! How many residents are playing pickleball vs how many residents are dog owners? How about repurposing some of these tennis courts around the city that are consistently empty?
Lisa Dearen
The city is opening itself up for litigation with pickleball courts essentially in the backyard of the homeowners on Trailblazer Way - especially since the city already gets noise complaints about the pickleball courts from the residents near Poinsettia Park
https://www.kpbs.org/news/quality-of-
life/2023/09/05/homeowners-are-increasingly-taking-legal- action-over-pickleball-
noise?fbclid=IwAR2a_jdD382dQJknZVfJ5Cj3klXAJViUEFWD-
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Exhibit 6
Robertson Ranch Park
Recommended Master Plan
Kyle Lancaster, Parks & Recreation Director
Nick Stupin, Parks Planning Manager
July 23, 2024
1 RECOMMENDED ACTION
Adopt a resolution approving the
recommended Robertson Ranch Park Master
Plan and directing staff to proceed with the
necessary environmental permitting and
entitlements for the park project
ITEM 13: ROBERTSON RANCH PARK
2 OVERVIEW
• First identified as a park site by City Council
in 2006 with Robertson Ranch Master Plan
• Park is a “Tween” size: 11.2 acres
• Park is a priority project in the City Council's
5-Year Strategic Plan
• Complete conceptual design/master plan and
permitting for the park
• Parks & Recreation Department Master Plan
ITEM 13: ROBERTSON RANCH PARK
3 DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS
• Reflect community needs, values and priorities
• Emphasis on safety
• Be a good neighbor; a family-orientated intent
• Consider locations of other nearby park amenities
• Offer several amenities, include multi-generational
and inclusive, while staying within cost parameters
ITEM 13: ROBERTSON RANCH PARK
4 PARK PLANNING PROCESS*
Phase 1 12 – 14 months
Recommended master plan
Phase 2 8 – 10 months
Permitting and final master plan
Phase 3 44 - 48 months
Construction plans and
specifications, bidding and construction
ITEM 13: ROBERTSON RANCH PARK
* Typical timeframes
PARK MASTER PLAN
ITEM 13: ROBERTSON RANCH PARK
• Conceptual
• Identifies planned features and general location
• Does not include details such as:
• Brands of products and materials
• Specific plants and landscaping
• Manufacturers of playground equipment
• Precise placement of electric vehicle charging station ITEM 13: ROBERTSON RANCH PARK
7 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
Share big picture
ideas, priorities
Give feedback on 3
options
Review final
proposed design
8 9
10 11
12 1313
Preferred Conceptual Design
“Recommended Master Plan”
14 15
Splash pad Playgrounds
Pickleball
Community
garden
Fitness
stations
Track
Basketball
16 17
18 Shaded
picnic areas
Plaza
Fitness
stations
Natural path
Restrooms,
concessions
Trail
connections
Bleachers
Built-in slope
seating
19 Additional
entrance
Entrance
Elongated
parking lot
20 Buffer from
homes
Open grassy
area
Noise, lights
distant from
homes
21 Drainage
Ornamental
garden
Drainage
Overlook
and stairs
22 NEXT STEPS
July 23, 2024
Consider approval of recommended plan
Consider directing staff to proceed with
permitting and entitlements
Early 2025
(Planning Commission)
Consider approval of
permits and entitlements
22 2 years after that
Complete construction
Open park
1.5 - 2 years later
Consider approval of construction plans
Consider authorization to bid
Consider funding for construction
Develop construction plans Build park
WE
Are
HERE
Spring 2025
Consider approval of final plan
Consider funding for developing
construction plans
23 July 23, 2024
Consider approval of recommended plan
Consider directing staff to proceed with
permitting and entitlements
Spring 2025
Consider approval of final plan
Consider funding for developing
construction plans
Early 2025
(Planning Commission)
Consider approval of
permits and entitlements
23 2 years after that
Complete construction
Open park
1.5 - 2 years later
Consider approval of construction plans
Consider authorization to bid
Consider funding for construction
Develop construction plans Build park
$1,463,000FY 17 $485,000* $30,000,000* * preliminary construction estimate -
plus contingency and inspection
24 NEXT STEPS & FUNDING
Date Funding Phase
FY 17 $200,000
FY 22 $200,000
FY 23 $214,000 Conceptual design work began
FY 24 $424,000
FY 25 $425,000 Permitting and entitlements begin*
2 years $485,000** Construction plans and specs developed 2 years $30,000,000** Bidding and construction conducted Park opens
FUNDED
* If approved 7/23/24
** preliminary estimate
POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES
ITEM 13: ROBERTSON RANCH PARK
25 Grant
Opportunities
Park in Lieu
Fund (NE)
Public Facilities
Fund
General Fund
Reserve
Balance today n/a $3.5 million $28 million $131 million 5-year projected
balance n/a $8 million $35 million $141 million
Considerations
Uncertainty
Must be
“Shovel Ready”
$4.55 million
advance from
Public Facilities
Fund
Other competing
needs
Other competing
needs
Requires Prop H
vote - over $1M
RECOMMENDED ACTION
Adopt a resolution approving the
recommended Robertson Ranch Park Master
Plan and directing staff to proceed with the
necessary environmental permitting and
entitlements for the park project
26 ITEM 13: ROBERTSON RANCH PARK
Parking Lot
ITEM 13: ROBERTSON RANCH PARK