Dear City of Coronado and Schmidt Design Group,
Thank you for all of your work, time and efforts! I have so much to say and apologize for the long email but we are very concerned about the dog park and the added extra expense of so many potential elements! I listed Pros & Cons regarding each design at the bottom of this email.
My name is Frank Pallares and I am retired and live in the Cays. We love our community and feel blessed having this beautiful City Park in our backyard which we enjoy every day! We visit the park daily from 7- 8am, rain or shine and sometimes in the afternoons if there are not too many dogs. It has given us a keen perspective about the park. We also attended the public outreach at the Cays Yacht Club and in the Park. Very helpful understanding the design elements and the thoughts of many.
Our #1 Concern for the revised Park Designs, The concept of making “islands” in the park which diminishes the shape of the dog area greatly.
We started to visit the dog park in May 2022 every day (7 days a week) as it was important to socialize our dog. We made fast friends who are there with their dogs daily! We have all types of dogs and people who come from even as far as North County at various times and days because I am told it is one of the few all green dog parks in the county. Daily there are dog owners from IB, Otay Lakes, Chula Vista, the Village, …. The morning crowd are a quieter crowd but the late afternoon crowd can be Happy Hour Time (lol) . A vast increase in the number of dogs and people and I have decided to stick with the morning crew due to too many dogs and more dog fights in the afternoon. I share all this as I along with most of the morning dog park people want the dog park to not change in the shape but to remain long and add to this length and increase the width…it allows for a friendly space. If there is a difficult dog it is easy for one to move away due to the shape of the park. If the park becomes circular or triangular the 1 Cays Park Master Plan - Community Outreach Summary - 11.22.2023 260 of 390 City of Coronado Page 590
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dogs will tend to congregate in the middle and there will be more wear and tear of the central location of the dog park. There are also many retrievers and throwing the ball in this long shape allows for this as well. It is the perfect park for dogs to run..please do not decrease and shorten the length! Daily, in the mornings throughout all seasons (90-95% of the time) the entire park is quiet and hardly a person is in the park except for the dog park, tennis and pickleball courts. During certain times of the year the military play games in the green fields and there is kite flying (magical). It is wonderful to be in a large area with no fencing…the fact is people walk their dogs through the park from the street at different points based on where they are coming from and you have the occasional dog owner who fails to clean up their dog mess not intentionally but sometimes not observing..but again it should not happen. I would say the majority of dog owners I have observed will help to clean up the dog mess even if its not their own. There is a lot of respect for this park by most if not all! We don’t like the idea of fencing but I understand as there is a strong opinion from the soccer association to do so mostly for good reasons. We all share the City Park and need to make it safe and conducive for all. The bushes along the fencing… but I keep in mind the area of the bushes take up square footage and not feel like the added acreage it shows on the designs. I also do understand that all 4 plans have a fenced in dog park and so it seems the majority are for having fences.
We love the functionality of the park as is. I would prefer the City not change the park vastly but the necessary items which need revision: irrigation, need for new tennis court foundations, as I understand the fire departments needs revision on its entry and exit x 2.
My Key Issues:
Leave the general shape of the dog park but extend it and widen it Need a new playground for the kids. It is not safe and need more areas for families to sit and have shade.
I do not want many trees but I know homeowners on the outer perimeter of the park overlooking the park and their field of vision to the sea could be obstructed. How can you assure these trees will not go above a certain height?
Against making the roads surrounding the park single lane from double lane for all the obvious reasons..traffic, safety , etc. During soccer tournaments there is traffic for the period of time cars are coming and going after the games. If the Cottages of the Cays go through we were told guaranteed over 230 vehicles daily coming into the intersection of Grand Caribe to go to the Grand Caribe area. I also think about the homes closest to the streets and increase of noise due to an escalation of traffic more often.
As shown on some of the designs, We are strongly against any entry/exit from the Park into the Strand for bicyclists and pedestrians due to it being a new security issue to contend with over time. On my street last week we had a transient on meth get into a vacant home. We now have homeless sleeping in the nearby dunes and using the public restrooms. My wife walks 5 miles from home to the Military Base in IB on the Strand Beach and has seen homeless in the dunes..she doesn't feel that safe taking a walk on her own in the mornings on the beach. We are now experiencing more theft in this community. We have been lucky to enjoy a very safe 2 Cays Park Master Plan - Community Outreach Summary - 11.22.2023 261 of 390 City of Coronado Page 591
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community but more and more we are having security issues. I want to have less reasons for security issues and foster an environment which will help to avoid security issues. We pay a steep price to have an overall community which remains safe and quiet on the whole.
Against a viewing deck to avoid people hanging out at night…drinking, trash, security needed to quiet down noise, etc. Definitely will have security issues once this deck is discovered by many.
Just as Grand Caribe Beach was discovered during Covid by many..many serious security problems. The City closed down the entire area to all! No one could enjoy due to the security issues.
Often, the Cays is an area people decide to live in rather than in the Village so they can escape the high season (traffic, congestion (people/cars)) and the noise. The Cays are known for offering a quiet, traffic free, friendly environment, safe and well kept. Some of this criteria can change greatly based on certain elements in the new designs of the park.
Dear City Officials:
Rather than water features, artwork, viewing decks, many trees and gardens..We (wife and I) would like the City to concentrate these significantly vast funds which come from our property taxes to assist in combating this horrible sewage issue plaguing Coronado! plan for the long term affects in Coronado due to this disaster which is occurring daily …billions of gallons of sewage flowing into the ocean next to our communities.
The Pacific ocean bordering IB and Coronado. We cannot go into the ocean, the smell is foul in IB and South SD and now the sewage is carried in the air mist based on a recent air sampling study. This obviously devalues in the short and long term real estate sales and the rental market. It is already affecting Coronado in the rental market this past summer. We are now told by one of the owners of Sea180 Restaurant in IB there are over 9 businesses closing their doors in IB including Coronado Brewing Company due to the lack of public using the beaches. The beaches have been closed in IB for 2 years.
This is where I want our City Funds to be used…to
Pros & Cons with the 4 Designs:
25%- The Wonder of Flight
I oppose this design- I understand the soccer association needs a minimum of 2 fields why is there only 1 multiuse field? Remove the water spring…add more green to the back portion of the park for a longer and wider dog run, remove sunset deck.
PROS
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#7 Children playground- beautiful and in a safer area
#9 off street parking
#18 native gardens are lovely but again prefer green field to allow for larger dog run and perhaps allowing that 3rd multi- use field or more pickleball courts! #19 fitness loop – super idea as I see people exercising in groups on the lawn..our weather allows for this year round!
#22 shade structure with seating – always great!
#30 windows in wall – super idea!
#25 existing trees remain – please don’t cut down trees..work around. #33 decomposed granite garden pathways…very nice for ease of walking ..many walk through the park all day.
CONS
#5 do not need another water feature with Bay and Ocean on each side..prefer more open green for activity -dogs and people..
#11 median adjustment – from concrete to striping (dangerous for crossing kids and families..great barrier)
#12 dog park– do not like shape, would prefer it be longer and then add width #15 reduced wall height…unless you can ensure a dog cannot jump over as dogs have jumped over the lower wall in the dog park. I know of 2 dog owners with golden retrievers jumped the present low walls. #16 no sunset deck – it will draw people from Cays, Village, IB, Chula Vista, Village to come and drink, etc. and increasing noise to the outer perimeter homes surrounding the park. More trash and need to call security during evening times.. This will cost $100K x 4 to do and rather put those monies in a fund to help with the sewage issue polluting the ocean. There is constant trash (broken glass/ papers/ fast food / cans/ plastic bottles) at the basketball court ..cant bother to always use the posted trash bin on the sideline of the basketball court. I am picking up this trash almost every morning. #17 no spring…we have ocean and bay! More green and open wide space. Remove the spring to allow for more green and incorporate longer dog run and add another soccer field. #29 kite area which I love the kites but move to the lower area of the “The Spring” to allow for the dog park to extend to this area (removing The Spring)
#35 on street head in parking -removes green space from the dog park – the only time it is tight for parking along the curb by the dog park is during the soccer tournament times..Entire remaining year there is no issue with parking.
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50%- Wonders of the Strand
Out of all designs I like most as there is no “water spring”, etc. Remove the viewing deck and allow for a longer dog run on the back section of the park.
PROS
#2 pickleball courts
#6 off street parking
#25 Existing trees to remain
#32 decomposed granite garden pathways…very nice for ease of walking CONS
#8 median adjustment – from concrete to striping (dangerous for crossing kids and families..great barrier)
#10 Dog park with concealed fence – do not like size and shape ..it needs to increase in size and length #11 Connection to silver strand bikeway – based on the reasons I stated above #13 reduced wall height…unless you can ensure a dog cannot jump over as dogs have jumped over the lower wall in the dog park. I know of 2 dog owners who goldens jumped the present low walls. #17 elevated sunset deck – the cost ($300-400K)is not necessary..invest those monies in getting attention to correct the sewage issue in the ocean
#26 bike repair station – no entry/exit to Strand – invites potential security issues 75% - Wonders on the Water
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PROS
#7 off street parking
#26 Existing trees to remain
#28 fitness loop but place at #5 the sand volleyball
#21 children’s playground – I like the location and away from the street CONS
#1 3 multi use fields – we were told at the CCYC meeting the soccer assoc. reworked their game schedules and are happy with 2 fields.
#5 beach sand volleyball – use the beach! This will most likely be unused most of the time. Daily is dog play and walking, jogging.
#9 median adjustment – from concrete to striping (dangerous for crossing kids and families..great barrier)
#10 Dog park with concealed fence – do not like size and shape and fenced #11 Connection to silver strand bikeway
#25 bike repair station
#12, #14, #5 – would like to see the dog park extend into this area for the reasons I mentioned in my introduction
#23 why is a bridge needed and what is the basin? Reduces clear flat green for dog play..the added acreage is diminished due to planted bushes around the entire space/ basin / connection to strand/ bike repair station
100% - Beauty of the Islands – Cays/Coronado
(I OPPOSE THIS DESIGN the MOST) primarily due to the decreased area of the dog park (not a dog friendly design) and having 4 multi-use fields.
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PROS
#5 New expanded restroom – I feel only one restroom is needed in the park but expanding it is good and to avoid further security issues with the restroom somehow make it secure so it is safe if you are alone inside using.
#7 off street parking
#8 roundabout – I personally like very much as I see how quick it allows cars to navigate vs stoplights.
CONS
#1 Multi-Use Field – we were told at the CCYC meeting the soccer assoc. reworked their game schedules and are happy with 2 fields. Need more space for the dog park why 4 multi-use fields..I am fine with 3 fields
#4 Backstop – is this for baseball? Love baseball and rarely played in the park. #9 Dog park with concealed fence – so this space has been completely reduced as it is not much different in current size and then it is decreased further by adding bushes along the fencing and the space will feel significantly smaller based on the revised shape. THIS IS A STRONG NO! #4/ #10 (kite flying move it down below the dog area)/ #12 / #15/ #17/ #20/ #21/ #31/ - REMOVE ALL to allow for a longer / wider dog area. Remove upper multi-use field and 2 fields remain. #25 love native gardens but again I am pro enhancing dog run#1 and would prefer this square footage allow for it. Could you place this next to the fire station along the sidewalk? *I am pro on tennis courts / pickleball courts in all designs Thank you,
Therese
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I attended the presentation at the CCYC, but had a few more comments as I thought about it and looked at the plans more over time. I live on directly across from the park. We love the view we have now and in talking with some other neighbors, it dawned on me that trees in any of the plans that are planted directly across on the street side of the park may block the view for some of us. Many bought our houses (we did) due to that view and would hate to lose it or even have our property value affected. Some shade from trees is nice, but I think on the farther ends of the park to have the least impact on the view for those who live facing the park.
No matter what plan is chosen, I think a better/bigger playground area is important. Our kids are teenagers so no longer play at the park, but so many young children do and we have more families moving into the community with children.
I really like the flight theme. It seems to me considering a 50 to 75% field option is a nice compromise for Cays residents and soccer families.
Thanks for taking our feedback into consideration,
Bryn and Tony Reina
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I have looked at all of the plans being proposed for redevelopment of Cays Park. The following are thoughts on each plan:
100% : I like the 4 courts of tennis instead of the current 3; keep the infield. I think the narrowing of the road is not a good idea and would be too disruptive to the Cays residents. 75%: Orientation of the tennis courts is bad. Players will be looking directly into the sun on one side of the court. Keep the infield. Good that the road is not changed. I like that there are 4 tennis courts. 50%: Better orientation of tennis courts; I like that there are 4 courts. 25%: Bad orientation of tennis courts. Keep the infield. I like that the dog park is bigger. I also like the addition of restrooms. I think the addition of a pond is not a good design. California is pretty much in a continual drought. The pond is not responsible nor is it appropriate for Southern California.
Do we need more parking spaces? Who is this park being designed for, the residents of Coronado or people from other cities?
Thank you for your time,
Debbie McBride
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Hello,
Thank you for the opportunity to provide my comments regarding the proposed options for the Cays Park. It is obvious that a lot of work has been done and the schematics from the landscape architects are admirable. My family has attended every meeting and listened and spoken to many residents at each one. There were many very creative and good ideas. There were also a few ideas that might work elsewhere, but are likely not a good fit for Cays Park.
I do want to point out that the Cays HOA survey found the majority of residents do not want to change the park at all and I agree with that group. This was also vocalized by the majority of the residents at each of the four public viewings of the designs. I spend many hours each week in the park and the current design provides for residents, pickleball and tennis enthusiast as well as the soccer club. My vote will always be to keep it as it is and just fix the irrigation. But, alas, it feels like the City Council will never agree to that now that they have spent so much money on the ads, surveys and the design firm.
As a resident of the Cays, I have a vested interest in this process. While demographically representative of the city population centers, the most recent survey by the third party hired by Schmidt Design Group captured only 13% of Cays residents... which equates to only 60 people. Yes this is a Coronado park, but we live and breathe it every single day. It seems only fair that our opinions carry a little more weight.
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courts) I would have to endorse the 25% activity. Although I will say that these courts add more active space, just in a different way. For some reason we are only counting soccer, specifically FC Coronado Futbol Club, as the only activity that counts. If you count the courts it would seem even a 25% activity selection is really more like 50% human activity. But as I said, only soccer club activity counts in this endeavor.
I also would like to step back and make note that the more logical step if we are actually measuring sport activity as the #1 concern by City Council would be a full citywide park audit to see where more activity areas can be identified throughout all the city parks. I believe that Tidelands and Sunset Park are both underutilized at their current activity level. Let’s make three or four soccer fields at Tidelands and a young children’s soccer field at Sunset Park. I am sure the village residents would love closer soccer fields and it will spread out the parking and congestion.
I do question the need for additional tennis and pickleball courts in the Cays. I appreciate the new dedicated pickleball courts. However, if there is a need for even more courts they should be put in the village. That is convenient to those that live in the village and also allows the village to share in the burden that rampant pickleball play creates. I did question why the Coronado Recreation Center Director stated there were no plans to have pickleball in the Village at this time as there are two areas with courts that could accommodate a pickleball transition similar to what was achieved from the tennis courts in the Cays.
Further thoughts:
Cons/Thoughts:
Please do not take the street down to one lane! That creates a multitude of safety issues, as does removing red curb. Right now we have a safe place to ride bikes in the street & a way to avoid errant balls/kids and runaway dogs while driving. I can't imagine any benefit of lane reduction that outweighs the cost.
Please don't link to the bike path. While there is a perceived benefit to those of us on the south end of the Cays, I think opening up to the bike path will create more problems than it is worth (safety, congestion, etc). We don't need 2 parking lots, give that back to park space. More parking is only needed if you create more traffic and congestion (larger dog park, more pickleball, link to bike path, 100% programmed soccer, etc..). None of which you should do.
Why move tennis /pickleball courts? Or build new ones? I don't believe a larger dog park is needed. The space along the wall is valuable due to its views, why not continue the viewing areas all along the 2 Cays Park Master Plan - Community Outreach Summary - 11.22.2023 270 of 390 City of Coronado Page 600
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wall? I like the idea of "fencing in" the dog park, in theory. Currently, the idea is to camouflage a chain link fence with shrubs and such. Given the past history of keeping landscaping healthy, I'm suspicious we'll eventually be looking at just a chain link fence. Is there a different medium that can be used in case the landscaping doesn't thrive?
I don't think every space needs to be filled. A balance of open green space with some shade, some seating & minimal obstruction is what most people voiced as a desire.
Shade trees should have minimal impact on the neighboring homes. There is a lot of lighting proposed, my first concern is the amount of light pollution this will create, a la the new Navy base.
Please don’t add a water feature as there are health issues from insects including West Nile virus which was just identified in Torrey Pines Please don’t add a sand volleyball court as this was done twice in the past and removed due to underutilization and health issues.
Please do not remove the line of sight views from the current residents. Please do not overdo the landscaping as the maintenance will be high and not manageable.
Please do not plant invasive nor non-native plants.
Please do not add more bathrooms as they will not be maintained well. See Spreckels Park as an example of how the city does not maintain public bathrooms well.
Pros/Thoughts:
I love the bump outs, sunset viewing areas, a few walking paths, Subtle
I like the idea of a few spots of public art.
I really like the idea of reducing the wall height to open up the beautiful views of the ocean. If we do this, can we keep the large landscaped drop off space on the other side of the wall as a deterrent?
Love the focus on an enhanced play area for the kids in the area. The idea of nature play is a very nice idea.
Understand many residents of the Cays rightfully enjoy their views. More detail needs to be provided on proposed types of trees and height before any decision is made on adding trees for shade.
This park is very important to all Coronado residents. We live and breathe it every day and spend many hours enjoying it just as it is today. I really appreciate the opportunity to take part in the planning process. I hope our opinions matter. I'm happy to answer any questions.
Sincerely,
Jessica Kelly
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Morning!
I don’t know if you’re still taking feedback on the park proposals but I wanted to just give my input. I didn’t come to the meetings, as I didn’t have interest in getting in any arguments with neighbors over this topic. Just for some quick demographics, I live in e towards the North end of the park. I have 3 kids ages 13, 11 & 8. We use the park everyday. I go to the dog park daily & my kids use the playgrounds & fields every afternoon. One of my sons plays in the Coronado Youth Soccer League. I feel like we represent a wide range of use of the park & will be impacted significantly by the changes. I know that the input regarding changes to the park is open to everyone, but I also think those who use the park daily should be considered more than those who only use it occasionally, or not at all.
Firstly, I am in support of all plans that keep the dog park which is very important to me. I’d like to see the dog park enlarged. I like that the plans include tasteful barriers for the dog park. I would like to see multiple entrances to the dog park, or at least one on both the north & south ends of the park. If I could only choose on dog park feature, it would be a northern entrance to the dog park. I don’t see on the plans a double gated entrances to help reduce dogs from slipping out while other dog owners are entered & exiting. I know that they can be a bit of an eyesore but they would increase dog park safety. I like all the proposed upgrades to the dog park. Great job to your team on that area as it’s probably the most important feature of this park.
I love proposal #1 the 25% option. I think that the park doesn’t have the infrastructure for the large crowds attracted by the soccer tournaments. I would appreciate a reduction of the soccer fields, particularly if there is not significant parking added to the plan. I do see options that add parking but currently the neighborhood is over run with cars & people on tournament days. I definitely agree with sharing the park with everyone, including the soccer groups but there needs to be the infrastructure & parking to support that. More parking than proposed in any of the plans is needed for the crowds attracted by soccer tournaments. I would be in favor of taking a bite out of the park to add parking, be that on the street as perpendicular parking, another parking lot, or an addition to the existing parking lot. I do not support removing the current parking lot. There needs to be not just parking but shade, tables & benches for the soccer activities. Having the soccer nets be permanent & stationary would also be nice for all people to use. Currently the soccer goals or moved in & out. They’re not available to park users, only the Soccer Groups. This makes playing soccer unavailable to the neighborhood kids because they need the goals & I feel, this is unfair. 1 Cays Park Master Plan - Community Outreach Summary - 11.22.2023 272 of 390 City of Coronado Page 602
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Also from option 1/25% I love all the features. I love the pond & the deck. I like the two complete cross park sidewalks. I think that’s a great design feature to have two long straight sidewalks like that. I might prefer swapping the locations of the pond & playground in order to keep the playground as far from the street as possible. I want to say that I really love the idea of the pond because it will be an asset to wildlife. Adding fresh water features to the park will attract birds & other wildlife that would be great for the environment. Overall as a singular package without picking & choosing features this is my favorite plan.
From plan 2/50%, I love all the paths & trees on the north end of the park & the deck. For the north end of the park specifically, this is my preferred plan. I dislike that this option removes the parking at the fire station. As I said previously, I think adding parking is one of my personal top priorities.
From the 3/75% option I like that there’s extra decking. I like the idea of an entrance to the Bay Shore Bikeway. I know many neighbors are worried about crime however, the traffic circle entrance to the neighborhood is quite dangerous on foot or bike. The current roundabout is extremely poorly designed. I like the idea of accessing the bikeway without going thru that dangerous intersection. Would this connection be bike friendly? I dislike that this option also eliminates the parking lot at the fire station.
Option 4/100% is my least favorite for park features however I love the idea of reducing Coronado Cays Blvd down to 1 lane each way. I like the roundabouts. I know many neighborhoods don’t like this idea but I think it would drastically improve Coronado Cays Blvd & make it much safer for kids, pedestrians & bicyclists. Would there be a dedicated bike lane with this option? I think a bike lane is desperately needed considering how much bike traffic there is on that road.
Coronado Cays Blvd is the only route, to the only access point of the Bay Shore Bikeway. The neighborhood has a much higher use of bikes than most areas. Many kids ride their bikes to school because there is no school bus for the kids going to the High School. As I said in my previous email, there’s problems getting motorists to follow the laws surrounding school bus safety. I think that reducing lanes would improve safety for all by slowing traffic. Coronado Cays Blvd has no outlet, it should be treated as a neighborhood street, not a divided highway. The lanes should be reduced to one each direction, widened, a bike lane added & the speed limit reduced to 25mph. I can’t stress enough how much I like these road changes. I hope that the city decides to make your proposed road changes regardless of the park improvements.
If I could pick & choose, I’d take most of plan 1/25% like the pond, but the north end of park from plan 2/50%, the Bikeway entrance from plan 3/75%, & the road changes from plan #4/100%. I like the plans that add the most parking as my top priority (behind maintaining the dog park). I like plans that add the most decking overlooking the wall towards the ocean. I like plans that many sidewalks, benches, tables & shade structures. I like plans that include exercise equipment, add permanent soccer goals & expand upon playground equipment. I think all based upon the amount of kids using them it merits having a playgrounds twice the size of any currently planned. I would love to see multiple playgrounds in the park. I like plans that make the park more environmentally friendly with shade trees, blooming plants & water features. I like plans that make pedestrian & bike safety a priority.
I hope that these ideas help in planning. I appreciate your willingness to hear community input. I wanted to reach out & put my opinions in on the park changes to represent my family in Bahama Village. Thank you for that opportunity. I also want to thank you for your efforts designing these park changes. Your plans are beautiful & well thought out. From my conversations with neighbors & fellow park attendees, it seems that the options I like, are not popular. I see that many residents have unrealistic desires for the park. Some neighbors want no changes at all, but I agree that maintenance & upgrades are sorely needed. One thing is sure & true, change is inevitable & that can be hard for people. I know there can be a lot of negativity, but I hope your designers know how much I appreciate their talents & creativity. I really look forward to seeing your proposed changes executed. Your team has much to be proud of. Thank you again & thanks so much for your time.
Regina Sebring
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> I have a question about plan #4, 100%. I love the idea of reducing Coronado Cays Blvd down to one lane each direction. I like the idea of the much needed additional parking on Coronado Cays blvd. The parallel parking on a blind curve is quite dangerous. There's a big problem with drivers speeding on Coronado Cays Blvd, making it quite dangerous.
My son was hit by a speeding car there this past summer. My concern is will the roundabouts reduce the speed of drivers? There's currently a big problem getting drivers to slow down around & stop for the school buses (as required by law). A single lane each direction would help the school bus issues tremendously. >
> My specific question about plan #4 is, will school busses be able to navigate the small roundabouts? I would definitely oppose any changes that limit or eliminate the ability for school buses to access the bus stops at the individual Cays Villages. Coronado Cays Blvd is the only access point to all of the Cays Villages for school busses. The kids need & have the right, to school bus stop locations close to their homes. >
> Would it be possible to create permanent school bus signage to help remind & mark the school bus stops for drivers? Having the students wait for the bus on the sidewalk blocks pedestrians & isn't the safest option for the kids on such a busy street. Adding school bus stop structures and/or benches would also increase the safety for students. Have the students & school buses been considered in any of the park renovation plans? >
> In the other 3 plans, which don't make changes to Coronado Cays Blvd, could painted crosswalks be added to the already existing "implied crosswalks" at the existing curb cuts in front of each Cays Village towards/away from the park, to increase drivers awareness of pedestrians crossing Coronado Cays Blvd?Could signage reminding drivers of pedestrians & pedestrian crossings be added to Coronado Cays Blvd.? Signage & painted crosswalks are an inexpensive way to increase pedestrian safety on this dangerous curved road. These changes could even be made outside of (& even before) the park renovation plans. Could some of the school bus stop suggestions I mentioned above, in paragraph 3, be added for school bus stops in the other plans, or by the transportation department regardless of the park renovations? >
> I hope these items will be addressed in the further meetings. I would appreciate if these items could considered for future renovation plan revisions. I would also appreciate these suggestions being forwarded to the city's transportation department. Thank you. I look forward to your response. >
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Cays Park Team,
I’ve attended nearly all of the meetings concerning the refurbishment of the Cays Park. After quite a bit of thought and discussion with my neighbors, here are my thoughts:
1.) It feels like this entire process is a fait accompli… the decision to change the park has already been made. The irony is, no one I have spoken to who lives in the Cays is happy with any of the designs (look at the pro/con boards at each meeting… the cons out weighed the pros at least six to one in each proposal) and, to a person, have said that they would rather leave the park as it is than settle for one of the plans.
2.) Why isn’t the city doing a wholistic park review? The Cays park requirements are being levied on Cays residents with no consideration to the fact that the “improvements” to the park would be better served being implemented in the parks in the village… since that is who these “improvements” are designed to benefit.
3.) Every Cays resident who lives along the park and has ocean views is against any changes that will limit our sight lines.
The city council would never dream of putting shade structures or trees in Sunset Park. Please afford Cays residents that same consideration.
4.) Please do not introduce invasive species or light pollution to the park.
5.) Every one of the surveys that has been submitted concerning the park has used affirmative questions. They do not include, however, questions concerning the negative outcomes that the changes to the park will no doubt bring. If you asked “would you be willing to put up with more traffic, people who do not live in our community frequenting our park, increased noise and light pollution, and eliminating ocean views people purchased their homes to enjoy in order to have changes to the park” I think your survey results would be much different.
6.) We don’t need more tennis or pickle ball courts. I live directly across the street from them. The ones we have aren’t fully utilized. Before we add more in the Cays consideration should be given to putting them closer to the people who use them. Spreckles or Sunset, perhaps?
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In short, please fix the irrigation issues that are needed. After that, please leave our park alone. There are precautions few open fields in Coronado, let alone San Diego, that it would be a shame to limit this one. None of the changes being proposed offers a benefit the outweighs the substantial impact or cost to the city or the residents of the Cays.
If you have any questions or if you would like more information I am always happy to chat. —Gabe Kelly
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My thanks and appreciation go to the Schmidt Design Group for their extensive efforts. Attached are my comments which I also handed to Mr. Schmidt and our Assistant City Manager at the Library this afternoon.
Best wishes and thank you for all that you do for Coronado.
Doris Besikof
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When planning the Cays park it would be nice to incorporate art from local artists. For example there are a couple flamingos that are spotted in the Cays on a regular basis.. and Tina Christiansen has tiles made with flamingos on them.
It would be a perfect match to place them down there. Almost all visual arts could be uploaded onto a tile ( similar to the tile work near the Seaforth rentals) and placed on display at the park. It would be nice to select a variety of Coronado images from local artists and upload them onto tiles to make a permanent collage.. perhaps near the restrooms or another high traffic area.
Thank you for your consideration.
Connie Spitzer
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My name is Rich and I live a t . I have carefully examined the 4 plans and prefer the fourth option of 100% The park has proven over the years what its major demand and utility is and that seems to be best reflected in the !00% design.
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I live in the Cays. I have a couple concerns regarding the parks proposed plans
1. Single lane for cars- dangerous for bike riders. No bike lane , no place for the bike riders, especially the children to safely ride their bikes
2. Do not want direct access to the bike lane from the park. We have security guards in place for a reason. We do not want bikers to be able to bypass the guard gate. We have very little Coronado Police patrols in our neighborhood, unlike the village . We are also closer to the border and IB. We pay to have the security guards in place to keep our community safe. Please do not bypass the guards by having a direct access from bike path to the park
3. Do not adjust the median. The median landscape adds to the beauty of the Cays and increases our property values.
4. In the 50% plan the native gardens area seems to be a waste of space
5. I do like the concealed dog park fence
6. Like a 2nd set of restrooms closer to dog park and soccer fields Thank you,
Kathy Bryan
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Dear Tony,
I saw your public comment period for the Cays Park Master Plan online and was curious if you have been receiving a lot of comments on your draft? What does your process for tracking and analyzing those comments look like? If you're using a spreadsheet, we'd love to help! We have been developing a comment tagging system that has been proven to save time categorizing and organizing comments and are looking to try it with more entities to continue to improve. There is no cost for the trial, and we can typically turn around results in 3 business days.
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I am William Dorr. I live at which is in the Cays very near the park.
I endorse Option #4 for the following reasons:
I like the additional parking of 145 spaces. What I cannot understand is in the other options, you change red curbing to white for 45 more spaces but not on Option #4. Why? this would add another 40 spaces totaling 185 parking spots.
I very much like the use of rotaries, at minimum the one at the Grand Caribe Causeway intersection. The others not as necessary. This would slow down traffic substantially making it safer to cross the street in any direction.
This is otherwise, a dangerous intersection due to people ignoring the stop signs. Rotaries at least slow cars down.
Minimal change in tennis court area which must revert to a financial savings. It keeps the tennis courts and pickle ball courts in place with minimal renovation or change.
I would not think a beach volleyball court is necessary and I would think a half-court basketball facility would be sufficient.
I do not like access from the Bay Shore Bike Way into the Cays Park, as shown on another option. Since Option #4 eliminates this I consider that a positive.
This leaves the most open field space for sports like soccer or other field sports like touch football (very much in vogue today), lacrosse and field hockey etc. This is important for the young people in our community. I just wish the City would profit a bit more from these activities to help support the maintenance of the park.
That's my feedback. I have lived in the Cays for 28 years, full time and enjoy the park facility very much. Thank you for your time and effort.
Bill Dorr
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Hi Chris and Glenn,
At the meeting held at the Coronado Library, Glenn asked me to send him a video of the view from our home. Here it is.
When is the next meeting to discuss the next plan you are putting together? October 19th? Thanks,
Jessica Kelly
On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:26 PM, :
Hi Jessica,
Thank you for taking the time to share your thorough and thoughtful insights regarding Cays Park and the various amenities/options. We appreciate the fact that the park is highly used by Cays residents, and we value your insights as a neighbor and frequent park user. We will keep these in mind as we move through the master planning process.
I am unsure if the City has reports or City wide audits of park use as you mentioned. Please contact City staff directly for this matter, and they may have more information on City wide park amenities.
Best,
Chris
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Hello,
Thank you for the opportunity to provide my comments regarding the proposed options for the Cays Park. It is obvious that a lot of work has been done and the schematics from the landscape architects are admirable. My family has attended every meeting and listened and spoken to many residents at each one. There were many very creative and good ideas. There were also a few ideas that might work elsewhere, but are likely not a good fit for Cays Park.
I do want to point out that the Cays HOA survey found the majority of residents do not want to change the park at all and I agree with that group. This was also vocalized by the majority of the residents at each of the four public viewings of the designs. I spend many hours each week in the park and the current design provides for residents, pickleball and tennis enthusiast as well as the soccer club. My vote will always be to keep it as it is and just fix the irrigation. But, alas, it feels like the City Council will never agree to that now that they have spent so much money on the ads, surveys and the design firm.
As a resident of the Cays, I have a vested interest in this process. While demographically representative of the city population centers, the most recent survey by the third party hired by Schmidt Design Group captured only 13% of Cays residents... which equates to only 60 people. Yes this is a Coronado park, but we live and breathe it every single day. It seems only fair that our opinions carry a little more weight.
If I must choose a design, as has been suggested, in order to create the most ability for the design firm to have flexibility to move around the required features that Glenn Schmidt said the City Council required (8 2 Cays Park Master Plan - Community Outreach Summary - 11.22.2023 285 of 390 City of Coronado Page 615
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pickleball courts and 4 tennis courts) I would have to endorse the 25% activity. Although I will say that these courts add more active space, just in a different way. For some reason we are only counting soccer, specifically FC Coronado Futbol Club, as the only activity that counts. If you count the courts it would seem even a 25% activity selection is really more like 50% human activity. But as I said, only soccer club activity counts in this endeavor.
I also would like to step back and make note that the more logical step if we are actually measuring sport activity as the #1 concern by City Council would be a full citywide park audit to see where more activity areas can be identified throughout all the city parks. I believe that Tidelands and Sunset Park are both underutilized at their current activity level. Let’s make three or four soccer fields at Tidelands and a young children’s soccer field at Sunset Park. I am sure the village residents would love closer soccer fields and it will spread out the parking and congestion.
I do question the need for additional tennis and pickleball courts in the Cays. I appreciate the new dedicated pickleball courts. However, if there is a need for even more courts they should be put in the village. That is convenient to those that live in the village and also allows the village to share in the burden that rampant pickleball play creates. I did question why the Coronado Recreation Center Director stated there were no plans to have pickleball in the Village at this time as there are two areas with courts that could accommodate a pickleball transition similar to what was achieved from the tennis courts in the Cays.
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Cons/Thoughts:
Please do not take the street down to one lane! That creates a multitude of safety issues, as does removing red curb. Right now we have a safe place to ride bikes in the street & a way to avoid errant balls/kids and runaway dogs while driving. I can't imagine any benefit of lane reduction that outweighs the cost.
Please don't link to the bike path. While there is a perceived benefit to those of us on the south end of the Cays, I think opening up to the bike path will create more problems than it is worth (safety, congestion, etc).
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(larger dog park, more pickleball, link to bike path, 100% programmed soccer, etc..). None of which you should do. Why move tennis /pickleball courts? Or build new ones? I don't believe a larger dog park is needed. The space along the wall is valuable due to its views, why not continue the viewing areas all along the wall? I like the idea of "fencing in" the dog park, in theory. Currently, the idea is to camouflage a chain link fence with shrubs and such. Given the past history of keeping landscaping healthy, I'm suspicious we'll eventually be looking at just a chain link fence. Is there a different medium that can be used in case the landscaping doesn't thrive?
I don't think every space needs to be filled. A balance of open green space with some shade, some seating & minimal obstruction is what most people voiced as a desire.
Shade trees should have minimal impact on the neighboring homes.
There is a lot of lighting proposed, my first concern is the amount of light pollution this will create, a la the new Navy base. Please don’t add a water feature as there are health issues from insects including West Nile virus which was just identified in Torrey Pines
Please don’t add a sand volleyball court as this was done twice in the past and removed due to underutilization and health issues. Please do not remove the line of sight views from the current residents.
Please do not overdo the landscaping as the maintenance will be high and not manageable.
Please do not plant invasive nor non-native plants.
Please do not add more bathrooms as they will not be maintained well. See Spreckels Park as an example of how the city does not maintain public bathrooms well.
Pros/Thoughts:
I love the bump outs, sunset viewing areas, a few walking paths, Subtle
I like the idea of a few spots of public art.
I really like the idea of reducing the wall height to open up the beautiful views of the ocean. If we do this, can we keep the large landscaped drop off space on the other side of the wall as a deterrent?
Love the focus on an enhanced play area for the kids in the area.
The idea of nature play is a very nice idea.
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Understand many residents of the Cays rightfully enjoy their views.
More detail needs to be provided on proposed types of trees and height before any decision is made on adding trees for shade.
This park is very important to all Coronado residents. We live and breathe it every day and spend many hours enjoying it just as it is today.
I really appreciate the opportunity to take part in the planning process. I hope our opinions matter. I'm happy to answer any questions.
Sincerely,
Jessica Kelly
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Good morning Mr. Winney,
Attached for consideration is a letter from my wife and I offering some thoughts, concerns, and proposals responsive to the City’s request for community input on redesign of the Cays Park. The letter includes two attachments intended only to be illustrative examples of possible interpretations of proposed design features.
Thank you for directing this communication to those thoughtfully considering such input.
Should anyone wish to speak with us further, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Kind regards,
DREW J. COUTO, ESQ.
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My comment concerning the art proposal is as follows:
One large abstract sculpture in a bright color would serve best to compliment nature and serve as a meeting place or focus point. Proposed plans for the four themes would not necessarily compliment nature and they appeal to set themes or points of interest which would not serve the entire community. Coronado struggles enough with various identities assigned to it by the general public, some of which are deserved, many of which are not.
Large abstract outdoor sculptures are somewhat specialized. Please consider opening the call for presentations nationally, as well as locally.
Thank you for your consideration.
Doris Besikof, local artist, former Coronado Arts Commissioner for Visiual Arts in 2012. 1 Cays Park Master Plan - Community Outreach Summary - 11.22.2023 290 of 390 City of Coronado Page 620
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Thank you to Glenn Schmidt for the great presentation at CCHOA! A few thoughts for the final Cays Park design.
- Storage of soccer goals. Provide an area for soccer or other large sporting equipment to be stored. The current use of the volleyball sand pit for soccer goal storage has prevented citizens from developing a habit of playing volleyball at our park. This is the only reason you have no demand for volleyball! - Consider better parking for the dog area. The number of cars and dogs jumping out of cars along the boulevard is too high. Even a few feet of buffer from the lane of travel for car doors to open and dogs to jump out might be better. - Separate the dog run, but not with a “fence”. Any local dog area with a fence quickly looks horrible as the dogs run back and forth along the fence killing the vegetation. The dog run can effectively be separated form the rest of the part with landscaping and decorative features. Please do not create a “fenced in area”. - Keep baseball backstop and area for volleyball. Multi-use is fine, but areas for these sports should be kept to be ready for next years increased demand.
- Be very careful on plant species selection. Numerous trees have been planted in the Park over the past 30 years, but the high salt concentration and occasional high winds have killed most of them. A deceptive environment. -
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I recommend either the 50% or 75% solution as the basis for proceeding to adopt specific features.
Regards
Marv
Marvin Heinze
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Thank you for your presentation to the HOA Board on Thursday, October 19th. I did learn that the tennis/pickleball courts had some structural issues which does impact the opinion of moving the courts. Now it’s a question of what the budget is for repair versus relocation.
As far as the dog park it concerned, post pandemic it needs to be fenced and identified as “the dog park.” As a user of the dog park for a dozen years, and a dog trainer, the problem is now the owners and not the dogs. They are interfering with other users of the park, as well as becoming a danger - as noted by their actions during the presentation at the backstop by your planning group which I was unable to attend as I saw the dogs off leash and jumping on people. I could not take that risk and many people who want to walk in the park cannot either.
So, fence the dog park which leaves the fields free and the dogs out of the playground. Add paths so more people can actually use the park without being hit by a soccer ball or a dog. Add seating to the playground area, remove and reconfigure the area where the goals are now situated, and stored.
Keep a grass backstop, make the basket ball court a half court.
No additional parking in the lot, but close the cul de sac. Acknowledge that the fire station will be rebuilt and of a different size.
No roundabouts, no front end in parking. Maybe reduce the red painted area for more parallel parking.
The park doesn’t need a giant reworking but it needs to accommodate all ages safely.
Thanks for listening!
Mary Berube
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My husband and I are long time property owners in Coronado and support two dimensional art for the cays park. Mary and Tom Christiansen
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Dear City Project Design Team:
This is to comment on the Coronado Cays Park masterplan currently for public comment. I note that in each of the four design concepts that there is only one location planned for one three dimensional work of art. The Coronado Art Association is a non profit organization that has represented local artists for more than 75 years in Coronado. We represent more than fifty local fine artists. Many of our artists produce two dimensional works of fine art that could be reproduced or created in materials suitable for inclusion in a public park setting. We support the inclusion of both two dimensional and three dimensional public art opportunities in this park.
In conclusion , this is to request and encourage the inclusion of more art opportunities within the next phase of the design process . Please include both two dimensional and three dimensional art opportunities in the next phase of the design process.
Thank your consideration
Sincerely
Uwe Werner
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I'm impressed with the great outreach you have
conducted with this project. Folks are involved!
1. I am a big fan of the soccer matches that are
conducted on weekends. I favor the 4 field option, but
will also support the three field option. Here is what it looks like on some weekends:
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In this day and age, it seems to me that we should do all we can to support families and family activities. This is a scene for the future of our country.
2. If you are going to add more Pickle Ball Courts,
please remember that Pickle Ball is a noisy
sport. Please put any additional courts away from
Coronado Cays Blvd.; on the ocean side of the current
courts.
Phil Monroe
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Please include art in the new project, not just one sculpture. I’d like to see the community involved in creating bas relief, mosaics, stained glass etc.
Some ideas that could include local wildlife (the wild flamingos that spend time in the Cays, the local sea turtles, the dolphins in the Silver Strand, the falcons and seagulls).
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Please include art in the Cays Park Master Plan, not just one sculpture. Mosaics, bas relief ceramic art, stained glass etc could be incorporated around the bathrooms, benches, floor, etc. I would like to see the local floral and fauna represented.
Thank you
Nanette Cevallos
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Please include art in the Cays Park Master Plan, not just one sculpture. Mosaics, bas relief ceramic art, stained glass etc could be incorporated around the bathrooms, benches, floor, etc. I would like to see the local floral and fauna represented, best regards Matilde Z
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This is my official vote as a Coronado Resident with children playing sports.
Please, option 4 is the only option to consider as a family friendly , youth first, future considering , forward thinking town.
One Town, One Team
Jill McLean
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To whom it may concern,
After visiting the viewing of the new Cays park proposals, I am very much in favor of option 3 or 4. This would be a waste of land if children could not use it for sports as much as people are able to use if for just walking and beauty. I feel there are many other places for people to enjoy the beauty of the Cays and Coronado, please let the children have their space too.
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Michele Albin
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To whom it may concern,
We have been residents of Coronado for 23 years and are very involved in the art community. Artist Jean Pierre is a member of Coronado Art Association, San Diego Art Mart Association and shows his art at the Art in the Park, Coronado Historical Museum, Emerald C Gallery, Balboa Park and more.
There are so many wonderful local artists in Coronado. We are writing to express our desire to see public art at the Cays Park by local islander artists that show the natural beauty of our beautiful Coronado.
Have you ever thought of or looked at the addition of 2 dimensional art for the plan? This is what we envision.
Thank you for your consideration.
Health & peace,
Artist Jean Pierre Marques
Linda Marques
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To whom it may concern -
While I fully understand the interest in making changes to the Cays Park, I looked at the entire powerpoint with the options, but what is missing is “the why”. Why the Change? What is the ultimate end-state of any change or no change? I feel I would understand and be better equipped to make a recommendation for myself if I knew that information. I did not get to attend any of the meetings, but I am happy to take an email in answering my above questions to understand the intent behind this.
I have thoroughly looked at all the options. There are good options and ideas in all the options if the above is better understood.
My personal opinion, given the size of Coronado in general and the mere lack of space for outdoor sports, I would have to request that we stay as close as possible to OPTION 100 as we can. It is extremely important in the education and development of young kids to have a place to go play sports. If this space is reduced considerably, then you will see much of Coronado’s youth leave the city to go into SD to play depriving Coronado the chance to develop young players in baseball, soccer, lacrosse, etc.
While the older generation of Coronado may not care about the above, one thing is true, Coronado, in general, is getting younger and changing. We should want these areas to be available for youth activities and for Coronado to host other activities/events.
Thank you for your time.
V/R
Lucas Argobright
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To whom it may concern,
As a resident of Coronado Cays, I'm asking that you closely consider the 25% option or less for soccer fields.
The park is small. We need to share the space for multiple needs, not just soccer. Consider that parking is limited in the Cays. Already, soccer games create a huge influx of traffic. Families park their cars on Cays Boulevard and rush back and forth to their car for supplies, pets, and children. We already need to be extremely careful of the heavy pedestrian and automobile traffic during soccer events. Let's not make it outright dangerous! If someone gets hit by a car in this 30-mile-per-hour zone, it will be a tragedy that could have been prevented. Consider ALL of your residents, not a select few from a soccer club.
Judy Hock
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I have lived in the Coronado Cays for 18 years. I do not want the park to be dedicated to soccer use. I would like to see a mixture of uses, similar to the 25% soccer plan that has been circulated. I do not want to have to deal with the traffic and noise that a major soccer facility creates. I like my quiet neighborhood, it is why we purchased our home in the Cays and not in the Village. Please make sure that this park is truly multi-use. I want to see walking areas, landscaping with trees, picnic tables, etc. The park should not be designed for and committed to a private soccer company.
Thank you,
Ben B Dameron
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City of Coronado,
The do not like the options of the Master plan. The 25% plan is the closest to the best of the 4.
I don’t think that any area of a public park should be designed and set aside for just one private club because it is, of course, meant to be a public park for the City of Coronado.
There should be more pickleball courts as the courts we have are always used. They should be positioned along the wall near the bikeway/SR-75 if they are going to be moved. They should ALL be lighted.
There should not be a pond.
The baseball field should be kept.
There should not be so many trees and bushes.
The playground should be large.
The road should be kept as 4 lanes. Cars need the second lane because of all the parallel parked cars and bike usage. Unless there is a bike lane between the sidewalk and the parallel parked cars.
The existing wide open spaces gives usage of a variety of sports.
Thank you,
Abby Phillips
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As a resident of Coronado for over 40 years and a regular (5 plus days a week, sometimes 7!) at the Cay's Dog Park, 25% is more than enough! Do not entertain more than that for sports. I have gone daily for years, soccer does not prevail. The group is bossy, pushy and believes they can tell dog owners, walkers, recreation users, "move" from this area. That is not a passive park. The park needs to be a place of peace, calm and family friendly in addition to allowing dogs to have freedom, as very few parks allow the Cay's space it has now. More would be amazing. Residents deserve and have earned peace on the weekends, specifically. Take the sports elsewhere, let them figure it out but to dominant the fields now, is obnoxious and allows for no peace for those looking for it. Keep the park passive, earthy, dog friendly and family appealing. Add more trees, we need space that allows for movement.
Also, think about grounding the electric wires, street improvements, all residents of Coronado should benefit from anything Coronado decides. Redirect the spending, it makes sense.
Thanks.
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To the City of Coronado,
Please here are voices on the survey that was sent out regardless of your desire for soccer leagues to exist at the Cays Park! We have lived in the Cays for almost twenty years now and I feel I cannot use the park with so many teams practicing. Also, Saturdays are filled with many outsiders who congregate at the park for games; They just take over. Are they paying HOA dues and Coronado taxes to finance our beautiful park?? My husband had to call the City of Coronado due to the soccer teams practicing on the basketball courts when he and my son wanted to shoot baskets. They refused to move with the coach just ignoring the request by my husband. This is unacceptable for a Cays homeowner to put up with this type of behavior.
You have heard our voices and have seen the results of the survey which overwhelmingly supports minimal usage by the soccer clubs. I hope you will be able to put your own opinions aside and act on the results of the survey.
Thank you,
Robin Welch
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Hello my name is Salli Mahaffy and I have a very long standing in the Cays community—back to 1973. My family enjoyed the quiet community-based environment for all these years. However, I have been frustrated with the volume of traffic, parking and general increase in “people traffic” over the years. I am very much against dedicating so much of the park to a private soccer club! This will inevitably lead to parking/traffic problems to say the least. This area should at the most be allotted 25% usage. Frankly, it feels like an imminent domain take over!! I want to express my strong wish that you take this position into consideration and I know with certainty that many, many other residents feel the same way!
Thank you for reading my opinion,
Salli Mahaffy
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I wanted to write specifically to let you know that I support the 25% master plan for the new community park. We have owned our home here in the Cays going on 3 years and I have always said I thought the Cays Park was underutilized b/c there aren’t any trees or shade. I also do NOT think that soccer should be a Cays Park priority, since this is a community public space. I have always disliked their use of the fields, the mass amounts of water required to keep them up and again the lack of shady trees b/c of soccer. There is Tidelands set aside specifically for that purpose, and they can move.
I would love to see the park really come to life for the residents instead of being a barren wasted space waiting for soccer practices. I also really support a fenced in dog run. I have never loved the thought that every tree in the park has dog pee under or near it. They certainly have enough space for their dogs, we have to learn to share. Thank you for your time
Lauren Ryan
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Please consider our request that the soccer portion of the newly designed Cay's park does not go beyond 25% usage space. By limiting the usage space we will hopefully regain the enjoyable use of our park and our community. The Cays park was not created to be dominated by soccer as it has been in the last 10 years. The Cays residents have lost our ability to enjoy weekends at the park due to the traffic, parking issues, and total domination of our Coronado community park by the soccer groups . The lawn is damaged after every tournament and then our park is closed for days for repairs. For years private soccer companies have used our park without being responsible for their Impact upon the residents of the Coronado Cays and other Coronado residents who cannot enjoy the Cays park with the soccer domination. You have the opportunity to improve the future for the entire city of Coronado. Please do not continue the misuse of this rich community resource. Thank you very much. Sincerely, Penny and Sands Brooke, Coronado Cay's homeowners
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Dear City of Coronado,
I am a Coronado Cays homeowner residing at When we purchased the house in 1999 there was no soccer in the park, only a recreational park for humans and dogs with a beautiful view of the ocean. I understand that times change but am unwilling to cede our beautiful park to all soccer all weekend. I would like it noted that I prefer the 25% soccer option in the Cays Park redesign.
Sincerely,
Vanessa J Veazie
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To whom it may concern,
I’m a life long Coronado resident, currently residing in the Coronado Cays. I’m also a parent of a 1-year old and frequent Cays park-goer. I have many years ahead to enjoy this park and can’t stress enough how much I’d like to see the 25% plan implemented for our community. This plan strikes the balance of beauty and functionality. We NEED shade, places for picnics and leisure, an updated playground, paths, and nature. Please consider the recent survey of the residents closest and most effected by these changes and make a data-driven decision.
Thanks so much for reading.
Nicole Lenhart
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I am opposed to any changes to Cays Park. If forced to choose, I support the 25% formula.
Parks and playgrounds become the heart of communities. By providing outdoor spaces for community members to get outside and be active, parks help encourage a healthy lifestyle.
Therefore, public parks should never be used for organized, competitive team sports. Such activities increase vehicle use by outside groups, which increases traffic and pollution.
Competitive team sports completely changes the nature of public parks. Competitive meets exclude the people a park is intended to serve, damages the grass and increases maintenance costs with no benefits whatsoever to the community.
Gerald Toci
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I wanted to state that I am adamantly in favor of not having a private club have control of our park and that I favor the 25% option for the redesign of the park.
We who live in the Cays deserve to have a lovely passive park to enjoy and no one wants to have more traffic that these soccer clubs bring.
Allow me to state that the village of Coronado has many passive parks but we have just one and to have it invaded on a regular basis with private sports clubs is not acceptable.
Please feel free to reach out to me directly if you wish.
Bonnie Garrett
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To the CIty of Coronado:
We are writing to provide our input for the important Cays Park Master Plan.
Our family, including adults and children, would like to have a Cays Park that serves the diverse group of ages and interests of the community.
At present, the park largely serves only the needs of the sport of soccer run by a private club. This is unfair in a public park that should be inclusive and serve the variety of ages and interests of the residents. It is also particularly unfair to the Cays, because no other public park in Coronado is devoted primarily to soccer (if at all). Why doesn't Tidelands Park have soccer while Cays Park is primarily set aside for soccer club sports? For example, the park could include:
A small fitness area with chin up bar, etc., to help those who are interested in physical fitness.
A grouping of shade trees (away from the dog park area) and benches would provide a welcome spot for older community members to gather for relaxation and conversation.
A sunset viewing deck
A gazebo or pavilion that could serve multiple functions such as music performances, yoga, etc., appealing to a variety of community interests.
We strongly support the 25% option of the Cays Park Master Plan.
Thank you, in advance, for hearing our voices and considering our input.
Sincerely,
Elizabeth Gische
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My family very much does not want to see this open, residential park turned into a heavily used soccer tournament venue. We regularly walk our dog and mingle with other park users. The parking and crowds are already pushing this wonderful family park to the limits. Please have consideration for the local families.
Sincerely
Judy And Steve Steinfeldt
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To whom it may concern,
I represent 4 voters in my household and hundreds of Cays residents that voiced their views in a survey who live and pay taxes in the Cays and Coronado. The park in our neighborhood should serve Cays residents and Coronado residents in that order. Just like Spreckles Park serves Villages residents and Coronado residents in that order.
While I enjoy seeing youth activity on our fields, I would much prefer the 25% design that enhances the park for everyone. Allowing a private club organization to dominate a park meant to serve the public good, could be a derelict of your public duty of representation. If you would not use Speckles Park in the same manner, please give the same consideration to the residents of the Cays that pay taxes and vote.
There seems to be a park on the bay that was designed for youth sports. Let’s take full advantage of that. Please treat the Cays Park with residents in mind. Private club sports that contribute almost no revenue to our community should not be prioritized exclusively over tax paying or rent paying residents.
Nothing against soccer but what if some kids want to play flag football? Apparently our kids in the Cays can’t just showup and use their neighborhood fields because a private organization monopolizes our fields with ongoing exclusive reservations. How is that fair and equitable?
Please don’t misunderstand, I truly enjoy the youth activity and would much rather see kids play, than seeing under utilized fields. That being said, at 25% we would still enjoy seeing our kids play soccer or any other sport., as well as, everything else that could be enjoyed with a redesign.
Respectfully,
David
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Here is my request for the Cays Park:
I’m choice is to leave The Park as it is. It is well used, daily. The Dog Park is as it should be. It is as great destination for dog walkers.
The area near the Fire Station is used by people & by families, regularly. Not just weekends.
Leave The Park as it is. It works very well.
This Park should Not have a dedicated areas for sports. That is not the best use of this area.
Mary Russell,
Who lives in The Cays
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When planning this new park, please take into consideration that it should serve the community it is in and not outside soccer clubs. Those of us who regularly use the park are extremely annoyed by the soccer tournaments and strongly object to the games in our Cays community.
Furthermore, we really like the idea of incorporating art in the project that might represent our the wildlife around us.
Dolphins, sea turtles, moon jellyfish, seagulls etc should adorn the outside walls of bathrooms, benches, water features etc.
Kind Regards,
The Gonsenheim Family
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To Whom it may concern:
Thank you for allowing my wife and me to share our thoughts with you.
We don't believe a private soccer entity should have any ownership or use of the CAYS Park on a regular basis. Not even 25% use of the field. The park is Coronado-funded by Coronado residents. My wife and I are Coronado Cays owners paying taxes to fund the park. Every morning, I jog to and through the park and enjoy the park on a regular basis with my family.
On several occasions, while raising our children in the Cays, the soccer program regularly overtook the full-court basketball court and other areas of the park. Even when we asked to practice on the court and for the coach and his soccer team to move to the grass area of the park, the soccer coach ignored us. At times, throughout the past 20 years, the entire park has been overtaken by soccer.
There seems to be confusion as to why so many changes to the park appear to focus on accommodating soccer. I disagree with this philosophy.
Thank you for your consideration,
Dr. Don and Robin Welch
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Mr. Winney,
I'm a Coronado homeowner writing to provide my opinion of the Coronado Cays master plan designs. I live in the village but I spent a lot of time at the Cays park over 8 years when my daughter and son played soccer for Nado Select.
I looked at the designs several times when going to swim at the Coronado Rec Center and I have to say I like the 100 version and not just because it maximizes the soccer fields. I think it has key features of other designs, maximizes the walk-way along the fence by the far wall, and has the fewest number of parking spaces.
The versions featuring a pond and multiple wing statues don't meet the public needs--we've got water at the beach and we can put art installations in the simpler version later if we still value that. I guess I do like the sand volleyball area in one of the designs but it is so far back in the park I don't think it will be used. Besides, we've got lots of beaches and some nets if we want this feature in Coronado.
What we need are fields for youth to run and play and compete in a sport that will prepare them for a life of teamwork and physical fitness. The soccer fields bring many to the Cays, myself included, and that is a lot better than a littleattended park for the benefit of Cays residents only.
Thank you.
Glenn Hopson
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My preference is the 25% option. In addition I would like to see extensive shade structures over the children's playground.
Sincerely,
Julia Grazian
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We oppose the expansion of any soccer in the park as it serves more the communities outside of the Cays and just adds traffic.
Pat Brogan
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I cannot find the official survey form but would like to register my opinions. First, keep as is, Second-plan 4. Keep as much grass/greenery as possible. Cays Park is like NYC’s Central Park to Coronado. More green, more mental health.
Nancy Hall
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I am attaching a letter with some brief analysis and current comments on the Cays Park project.
Please distribute copies to the respective officials.
Best regards,
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Schmidt Design Group,
Thank you for your professionalism during this process. I attended each of your public sessions and was impressed with the way you approached ALL members of the public even canines when they jumped on you during interactions. It is particularly special that you went to residents homes in order to address view concerns and recognized that trees or other features might impact their views and talked about possible changes in the designs to prevent the loss of views.
Your design options present a wide range of options for Coronado and its visitors.
My final comments are on behalf of a group that is unable to send in comments due to their age. I use the park 2-3 days a week with my preschool age granddaughter. There are often other 2-4 year olds playing on the structure in the morning when we go, and in the evening when the preschooler's siblings are playing soccer. The two biggest concerns in the play area are: 1. Unleashed dogs in the play area. (They jump on the children and often poop and pee where young children play) and, 2. The playground equipment is in disrepair (Kids are getting cut on pieces of rusted metal etc).
Thus my requests on behalf of the toddlers that play in the park are: 1. Please contain the dogs and find ways to restrict them from coming to areas where children play and 2. Update the playground equipment and make it safe and age appropriate for a wide range of children.
Thank you again for all your hard work and effort toward creating a special place in the Cays that dogs, children and seniors can use at the same time.
Best Regards
Robin Hagemann
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…less is more….Cays Park should continue to be a neighborhood park for passive “local” use and not a venue for everyone in San Diego county… no need for more benches, picnic tables, tennis courts, pickle ball courts, soccer fields, playground equipment, walking trails, biking trails, restrooms, shrubs, bushes, sunset viewing areas, parking, rotaries, night lighting, etc……Cays Park is located in a residential neighborhood with one way in and one way out…let’s repair the sprinklers (which was the reason for exploring costly upgrades) and move on… Jane Dean
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I have been a resident of the Coronado Cays for almost 3 years. I don't have a dog, children, or play soccer, so during these three years, I have only used the park a couple times. It would be nice to have a park that ALL residents can enjoy.
I strongly believe that no one PRIVATE organization (soccer) should have so much use of a PUBLIC park. I voted for the 25% option but only because that was the smallest option available to me.
I would love to be able to use the park with walking paths, shade trees (hopefully not impeding my neighbors views), benches, a place to enjoy sunset, etc, etc. There is so much that can be done to this open space to make it enjoyable for all Cays residents to enjoy!
Sincerely,
Christy Martin
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To Whom It May Concern:
MY BASIC POSITION IS THIS:
I support the idea of the 25% Option as further defined below with the caveat that all active sports should be in the north half of the park, leaving the southern half fully dedicated to passive recreation.
A PASSIVE RECREATION
PARK
Having conducted two extensive surveys regarding Cays Park in the last 3 years, with over 700 responses from Cays residents, one thing I know is that the vast majority of Cays residents want a beautiful passive recreation park.
This is not unreasonable, and it should not be surprising. Village residents have 16 city-owned, taxpayer-funded, beautiful passive recreation parks from which to choose; Cays residents should have at least one.
In the bigger picture, said another way, I believe Cays Park should one day be to the Cays what Spreckels Park is to the Village--the one centrally located, always available, beautiful passive recreation park that everyone knows, loves, and wouldn't want to be without. Cays Park certainly does not fill that bill now.
And of course: Cays Park, like Spreckels, should be for everyone--not just for sports people and dogs.
THE SOCCER QUESTION
As we all know by now, the one big question regarding Cays Park is how much soccer there should be.
Over the last four years, for the duration of the Cays Park Master Plan project, the city has given the "big boy" seat at the table to the Coronado Futbol Club, over and over and over again.
At one point it got so bad even the Mayor labeled it "a soup sandwich." But then the Mayor himself, joined by Councilmember Sandke, rolled over to the desires of the Futbol Club when they mobbed the April 19, 2022 Council meeting. Together they proposed dropping the three planned options altogether and immediately giving the entire open space of the park over to the Futbol Club's demands. 1 Cays Park Master Plan - Community Outreach Summary - 11.22.2023 332 of 390 City of Coronado Page 662
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At that meeting the remaining three Councilmembers also rolled over to the Futbol Club's demands, but to a lesser extent. They voted to shift the 3 planned schematics from exploring three different "styles" the park could conceivably be to instead exploring three different "degrees of soccer dominance" the park might have.
And all three "options" were completely weighted in favor of the Futbol Club.
Imagine if I were to ask you how many soccer balls you want in your living room, and gave you choices of 50, 75, or 100? Maybe you don't want any soccer balls in your living room at all? Why is that not a choice? Why is the Council only listening to the Coronado Futbol Club? Are they completely unaware of the desires of Cays residents? Do they not care about the desires of Cays residents? Why are we using soccer balls to determine the decor of your living room in the first place? Why are we using the demands of a private soccer club to become the fundamental basis for the design of a public park?
This is not good governance.
A few months later the Council allowed a 25% choice to be added when the Cays HOA made that suggestion.
If the School District needed Cays Park for school sports, or if the City's Recreation Department needed Cays Park for their programs, I would support it. These are public programs, and I would expect that they would not dominate the entire open space of the park.
But the Coronado Futbol Club is a private organization, and I believe it is simply wrong to entertain such outrageous demands from a private organization for exclusive rights to such a large percentage of the open space in a public park.
For years the Futbol Club has thoroughly dominated the use of the park, and now they even dominate the design process. This is as wrong as wrong can be.
WE NEED TO GET IT RIGHT
The present City Manager has said many times, "We need to get this right." Of course everyone will agree with that statement, but opinions on the definition of "right" vary widely.
As former City Manager Mark Ochenduszko said, Cays Park was meant to be a primarily passive recreation park for Cays residents.
To me this is the fundamental truth, and it is the definition of "right." A park must serve all citizens before it serves a select few.
At the same time I know that field space is limited in Coronado, and I also know that Tidelands Park, which was built specifically for Coronado youth field sports, is not being used efficiently. And given that Cays Park is relatively large by city standards, some compromise is reasonable.
The first priority should be to maximize the efficiency of Tidelands Park for the purpose for which it was built: Coronado youth field sports. Despite what lazy naysayers might offer, this idea should be pursued with resolve. Many significant improvements are possible at minimal expense, and it is possible to bring the Port onboard with the concept because many of the improvements would enable the park to better serve the region rather than just Coronado. This can be done.
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Park Master Plan.
But I would offer that, no matter what the answer is at Tidelands, my view is that _at most_ Fields 3 and 4 should be set aside for soccer use.
That means removing the backstop on Field 3 and putting grass in to replace the dirt infield.
Such action provides two full fields for soccer use in Cays Park if desired.
Thus my view is that the optimal "solution" is to dedicate the entire north half of the park to active sports and leave it just as it is, with the exception of the removal of the baseball backstop as described.
This approach will minimize unnecessary expense, and will importantly preserve views for Bahama residents, and minimize inflicting them with any more pickleball noise. This is important.
The southern half of the park should be turned into a beautiful passive recreation park, to include a children's play area.
The surveys that I conducted provide many details on exactly what Cays residents want in this regard and I believe their views should be given primary consideration in the design.
BOTTOM LINE
The city has a trustee-like responsibility to manage public property for public benefit. By giving so much consideration to the Futbol Club--by making them the primary driver in the design of the park--they are abrogating this responsibility.
The time is long past due to correct this situation. Some large portion of Cays Park needs to be dedicated full-time to passive recreation like a "normal" park.
The obvious way to do that is to dedicate the southern half of the park to that purpose because there are already playing fields and active recreation amenities in the north half of the park.
Overall, the north half for active recreation, the south half for passive recreation.
It's fair, it's reasonable, it's cost effective, and it's the best compromise possible.
Many thanks for your work on this project!
Kevin Reilly
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I am writing to urge the City to adopt a Cays Park plan that addresses the needs of residents of the Cays - the 25% solution.
A large proportion of Cays residents are empty nesters and retired. I am one of them. We deserve to have a park better suited to our needs.
We don't need acres of soccer fields. I don't have a dog and don't play tennis (or soccer), making the current park design practically useless for me. It's not fair to Cays residents that our only local park is not well suited for the vast majority of us.
Please adopt a plan that respects the demographics of the Cays - the 25% plan.
R.M. Bohl
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City of Coronado:
I am a Cays' resident of more than 16 years. I have been a CCHOA board member, and have always tried to be attentive to our association's best interests.
As for the Cays Park plans, I strongly support the 25% plan. I believe that this area should be, as its name implies, a park for all to enjoy, and and not mainly a sports field. The 25% plan would give us both.
Harold Nevin
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Dear Planners,
My husband and I recently purchased a home in the Cays and learned about the proposed changes to the Cays Park. I did fill out a survey purported to be prepared by a Cays resident, but I felt many of the questions were leading and seemed to want to limit the use of youth soccer groups.
I favor the fourth plan, the 100% playing field availability. One of the amenities I enjoy at the park is the vast lawn. It is actually rare to see such beautiful expanse of grass. That said, the park could use some more trees and benches perhaps around the perimeter.
My husband and I are in our 70s and have enjoyed watching our grandson play soccer there some weekends. Several residents seem disgruntled that the fields are being used by “for profit” sports teams. Obviously, they have little contact with children playing sports. The days of all volunteer organizations for sporting activities are gone. The complexities of dealing with children and their safety is costly and thus are run by professionals. Though as in my grandson’s case, the coaches are usually parent volunteers. Even the sport programs offered by the City of Coronado are run by professionals who are paid a salary.
I also believe the dog run area is too big and should have a fence. I often see dogs in the non-run area. It is not unusual to find dog poo in the playing fields. Dog owners often get so carried away with their conversations or cell phones, they fail to pick up after their pets. I no longer take my dog there as he’s a smallish medium size and is usually bowled over by the larger dogs racing around. It would be nice to have a smaller dog area as well so those that are a bit timid can socialize too. An excellent example was a dog park I saw in Fort Bragg, CA, - half was for “Big Dogs and those who think they are” and the other was for “Little dogs and those who are shy.” It would be nice to have access to the bike path from the southern end of the park. I’d very much like to walk to IB for coffee now and again, but walking all the way to the entry kiosk or driving there, seems counterproductive. And I agree with some that lowering the wall or installing a viewing platform to see the ocean would be a definite enhancement. My husband is very interested in an outdoor exercise area with simple equipment and instructions.
We oppose the First Plan a the idea of a water feature is ludicrous. We have water on two sides. The Bay is usually very calm and perfect for sailing toy boats. I would be afraid of the liability of a body of water. 1 Cays Park Master Plan - Community Outreach Summary - 11.22.2023 337 of 390 City of Coronado Page 667
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As for a theme, the Cays itself seems inspired by the Caribbean and I think the park should follow that theme.
That is my input on the park.
Our property is at
Rebecca Motlagh
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(Re-sending, as not sure if this had been received when sent last month) Hello! These park renderings are sure elaborate and impressive…. but they are just too much for this amazingly unique park we are so fortunate to have. Wide expansive open areas that are multifunctional. They provide much field space for our active youth’s recreation. They provide unobstructed views of the ocean, sunsets, beach and sky. They give space for kite flying and family gatherings and fun. It provides an area for dogs to play and run.
Could the park use some updates? Yes. The play structure is rusting. The only picnic tables are in the dog area.
Having a community area with more benches and tables for people to gather for sunsets and ocean viewing would be nice.
Putting in ponds (we have the ocean as our water view) and fountains (we have the sounds of the waves) and trees (would obstruct the views)…will only end up taking away from this unique wonderful park.
Reducing traffic lanes to add parking could potentially be a safety hazard for residents as we only have one way to get out of the neighborhood.
We LOVE this park. It is so beautiful and unique. Please don’t take away from what we naturally have to make things more fancy… leave that for some city center park, not one that is next to the ocean and just so refreshing and open and multifunctional because of its expansive area.
Tina Starr
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I think Option 2 is a good balance for users of the park and sports.
It is very important to me that the lovely wide Boulevard with the open views remains unobstructed. It makes all the difference in entering our lovely community. To have the wide boulevard and sweep of spacious green makes it a park and that is what is important to me along with the other lovely amenities and courts that have been outlined.
Melanie Toci
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Hello,
As a long time resident of Coronado with children involved in sports, such as: soccer, tennis and baseball; I am also a sports enthusiast myself focusing on tennis, and practicing those other sports with my kids, it is of utmost importance that we maintain the same space for sports as we have now have, and do not, in any way, shape or form take away these spaces from our youth, as well as from our seniors, and all residents and visitors.
It is absurd that the city council is even considering to remove all these spaces, with a complete redesign leaving no space for sports.
Of course there can be and should be improvements, for example, the bathrooms are in need of a very much needed remodeling, maybe include new ones by the tennis/pickle ball courts.
Also, picnic benches should be part of the addition by the playground area as well as by the dog park.
The inclusion of trees would be a huge detriment to the owners of the ocean view properties which values would be diminished.
Thank you.
Bernardo Zavala
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I would like to see more pickleball courts added. Pickleball is a very fast growing sport, and to accommodate even more players in the future, more court should be added.
Thank you,
Cindy Pittman
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Kevin & Lisa Brenden
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Tony Winney
Assistant City Manager
Coronado City Manager’s Office
Coronado, CA 92118
CC: Glen Schmidt, Schmidt Design Group
Henry Angelino, CCHOA
Coronado City Council
Tina Friend, City Manager
Re: Coronado Cays Park Design Options
Hello Mr. Winney,
Thank you to Mr. Schmidt’s for the presentation outlining the options and providing details on September 12, 2023. On behalf of our family, we appreciate the creative thoughts offered and the interest in hearing feedback from the community regarding the proposed changes. We also very much appreciate the concept of the amenity alternatives meaning the ability to “plug and play” various options.
First and foremost, for our family, we have appreciated the open field space for active use over the twenty-six years we have resided in Coronado, specifically in the Coronado Cays. We are true believers in the positive aspect that both organized sports and free play that this park offers the community. Having children involved in sport activities enables their overall growth through commitment and teamwork as well as encouraging lifelong good health perspective. The benefit of being active for all citizens has such a positive aspect for one’s mind and spirit, especially as we are coming out of Covid isolation periods that impacted much of our youth and elderly citizens. Concisely, we are proponents of maintaining the 100% usage option. Alternatively, we could be agreeable to the 75% option at a minimum (in other words, the 25% and 50% options are poor choices in our opinion primarily because many of the amenities offered under these options would be detrimental to the overall community use). And we do believe we have strong knowledge on this topic as we use this park every day; being avid walkers and bicycle riders, we use the park regularly. Likewise, we have been bringing our dogs to the dog park during our entire time living in the Cays. We currently are there every morning so that our dog can play with other dogs.
Likewise, we have gained friends in the community through our interactions at dog park.
One key item which hasn’t been addressed is the irrigation. Each morning, we walk through overwatered grass areas and the same sections of sidewalk that have been puddles for years remain in place.
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Pros:
Presuming the fire department and also the CUSD school bus(es) do not need the cul de sac area, re-purposing the area to incorporate better use is creative.
Maintaining 4 fields for use; minimally 3 fields.
Remodel of bathroom similar to what was done in Spreckles Park (single use, open water basin for hand washing). The park size warrants only one (remodeled) bathroom.
Maintain a full court for basketball.
Dog park with both fencing and natural concealed fencing (bushes lining the area); believe the existing space is sufficient based upon personal experience. Having heard others input, would suggest that an additional park specifically for small dogs could be added near Montego playground (near the Loews).
Reduced wall height (although could be a safety hazard too) in some areas. Is there an option for some sort of glass viewing alternative?
Children’s playground – good location today, would suggest adding some additional seating (table benches) and shade in the area.
Option for public art and event space are already available and believe these are good options for the community as well. Likewise, presume storm water treatment is already in place.
Mixed Pro/Con Notes (some note indifference):
Fitness hub/loop is a nice idea, however, concerned about the maintenance of any equipment.
Would like more details on this amenity.
Based upon current use, believe we have the right number of pickle ball and tennis courts available today. Adding a shaded area with table/benches makes sense.
While the baseball diamond doesn’t have a lot of use, it is used and should remain as an option for active play.
Kite/Sunset Hill/Sunset Deck – love the idea of this option, not sure how much it will actually be used. For example, there are many people in Trinidad and Mardi Gras village with decks at their homes and rarely do we see them being utilized.
Garden – we have lots of areas with floral plants in the community already along with Grand Caribe Island/Port of San Diego.
Picnic areas – the current available tables/benches are not overly utilized today (they do get used, but not sure how many additional sites are needed).
Bicycle repair station would probably be used.
Parking – while additional parking and revamping of the current lot would be helpful for safety reasons, the detriment to the community in reducing the 4 lanes to 2 lanes would have a significant impact on those that live here. Additional crosswalks would be helpful, however, the larger issue is that automotive traffic does not follow current laws in stopping for pedestrians as it is (including in crosswalks). Other than for soccer tournaments (four times per year), we have ample parking currently available.
Lighting – removing existing lighting from the median and replacing it in the park needs to be done with great care; specifically, when looking at the lighting that is blinding in Silver Strand Navy Housing when heading north on highway 75, want to ensure that we are not creating a similar situation.
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Cons:
o Relocating pickle ball and tennis courts (as identified in the 25%, 50% and 75% option). The cost of doing this as well as the location would seem to have a negative impact on the sport (due to wind).
o Removal of the small field as the “little ones” like to be able to play organized sports and it promotes community spirit and long-term friendships.
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Two bathrooms are not needed (as identified in the 25%/50% option).
Volleyball court – in all the years lived here, we have seen this area be used very little perhaps because the beach is across the street and people prefer to play there (or perhaps it’s because of the wind impact on the sport because of its location as noted above; similar impact may occur with the pickle and tennis court suggested relocation). o Bike path connection through the park would have limited use as we have the main entrance already being used.
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Model boat pond – water hazard (safety reasons) as well as mosquito attraction.
Roadway adjustment to a 2-lane street (with roundabouts) will create issues for the homeowners and illustrating this concept ONLY under the 100% option is a natural deterrent to those in the community to cause this option to be viable alternative (in other words, 100% option 1 is our preferred option but not with the roadway reduction to create more parking spots that are only needed a few times a year; perhaps, money would be better spent on a golf cart to shuttle people for the few times a year that the parking is an issue). o The reduction to a 2-lane street seems to have significant structural and safety flaws for residents and visitors.
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Head in parking (west side) will create traffic and safety issues.
While not directly impacted, many homeowners would lose their personal views of the ocean/beach based upon adding too many structures (additional tennis/pickle ball courts, landscaping, shade structures, and possibly lighting which may shine directly into their homes); their viewpoints should be given consideration.
Having shared pros and cons above (specifically related to the “Amenities”), please know that we are concerned about the costs of some of these ideas and do believe the financial return on investment is appropriate to share with the community to allow for a full analysis of those who regularly use the park.
Ultimately, believe allowing for open space with active use for both our youth and aging populations far outweighs the expense and amenities that may not be well used.
We respectfully request that the elimination of the street reduction from the 100% option be reconsidered and offer a design option that can fit within the current allotted parking space.
Thank you for your time and consideration to hearing from residents of Coronado. I (Lisa) am happy to participate in any additional workgroups.
Kind regards,
Kevin and Lisa Brenden
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beth & drew
Beth A. Ballerini
Drew J. Couto
October 18, 2023
Via Email Only
[email protected]
Mr. Tony Winney
Assistant City Manager
7 H o d City of Coronado
Re: CORONADO CAYS PARK MASTER PLAN PROCESS
Dear Mr. Winney,
In response to the City’s request for resident input, we wish to share our thoughts and ideas as to the future of the Coronado Cays Park.
Thank you for this opportunity.
At the outset, allow us to begin by pointing out the obvious: our family views the City as a wonderful place to live and are appreciative of staff’s efforts to maintain its unique character and wonderful quality of life.
EXISTING POSITIVE PARK ATTRIBUTES
As Cays residents, we are fortunate to walk through or by some portion of the Cays Park on a near daily basis.
Two of Park’s most positive attributes, standing out to even
infrequent guests, are its vast uncluttered Open Green Space and
proximity to the sea Based on our personal observations, . two areas of the Park are well utilized each day: the Dog Park and the tennis and pickleball courts.
For planning purposes, we are hopeful that these existing uses are given due and innovative consideration. In particular, we believe it vital the City consider:
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(858) 354-3739 • Preservation of a meaningful form of privacy and tranquility for first responders serving as fireman at the Cays’ substation. • ‘Maximizing’ and segregating the Dog Park area – e.g., the enclosed 2.00-acre allocation proposed under the 75% Plan is accommodated on whatever ‘plan’ is eventually selected; and, • Improvement of the existing tennis/pickleball area by realignment of existing tennis/pickleball courts and the addition of a total of eight pickleball courts and two
‘stadium/championships’ courts, one each for tennis and pickleball on the northern-most section of the Park (see attachments).
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PROPOSED PARK ATTRIBUTES OF INTEREST/CONCERN
1. Preservation of at least 75% of the existing open space/field areas. We believe it possible creatively preserve as much as 90% of the open space area while making many of the improvements to proposed. Open space is a continually diminishing resource within the City. None of the proposals clearly set forth either a practical or aspirational community need underlying proposed reductions of open space in this park.
2. Expansion of existing parking and Children’s Playground Area combined with closure/realignment of western end of Grand Caribe Causeway. partial Closure of the cul-de-sac would
achieve two objectives: provide additional park space and, reduce traffic interference with fire station operations, primarily emergency vehicle ingress and egress.
Simultaneous consideration should be given to a slight expansion of existing off-street parking on the southeastern side of that corner, a corresponding expansion of the adjacent children’s playground, the addition of a dedicated entrance to the parking from Coronado Cays Blvd, a single exit point onto the eastbound lane of Grand Caribe Causeway, and the designation of the westbound lane as limited to fire department and other emergency vehicles.
Traffic in front of the fire station, particularly during regional sporting events (soccer), consistently blocks and/or otherwise inhibits ingress and egress from the station. Realignment of that street would significantly reduce if not eliminate that as a problem. It will not impact use of the park in any meaningful fashion.
3. The addition of ocean/sunset viewing areas, but our interest is tempered As it is currently utilized, the Cays Park serves, primarily, as a slightly. community park rather than a regional
park. The addition of certain proposed amenities could significantly change that character, serving as draws for regional visitors to the Park, which foreseeably represents material incremental burdens on City services and Cays residents.
With new viewing, dedicated picnic, and playground areas weekend usage, particularly holiday weekends, is foreseeably significantly greater than it currently is. Related services such as litter and trash removal would be correspondingly burdened as it is unlikely that sufficient onsite disposal capacity would be design characteristics consistent with overall new park design objectives.
For example, leaving until a Tuesday trash accumulated from Friday or Saturday presents not only health and safety issues, but far greater vector control concerns as well.
Increased regional use is also likely to require increased policing demands above those currently needed within and around the community park. When coupled with the inclusion of a ‘picnic’ area, the plan creates an inherent risk of increased loitering activities in the park that becomes an unnecessarily complicated policing issue where none currently exists.
As part of this process, we are hopeful the City will share current crime/call response data
comparing the past five year history of police resources dedicated to responding to matters in the
Cays Park vs. Tidelands and/or Glorietta Bay Parks. Historically, Cays policing/enforcement policy
has been somewhat limited in comparison to that accorded the Village, with understandable reliance on Cays private security for initial minor dispute response. Some of the proposed park changes are likely to Beth A. Ballerini & Drew J . Couto
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alter that dynamic substantially, as well as increase potential liability for Cays homeowners via their HOA.
The latter two parks include/feature dedicated picnic amenities. Even a quick walk through those park areas during a late afternoon on a holiday weekend reveals the challenges posed by trash aggregation, collection, and removal for the City.
We, like our neighbors, do not believe it in the City’s best interest to drastically alter the community nature of the Cays Park under the notion of ‘park improvements.’ Rather, we are hopeful the City will take a measured approach to revitalization of this existing gem.
We ask those considering changes to the Park recognize and acknowledge that the Park already serves an important regional purpose – as a host site for several large scale regional soccer competitions annually.
That activity has proven compatible with the community’s needs, regional demand, and consideration and preservation of quality of life concerns for Cays residents.
4. Lastly, proposals to reduce the number of north and southbound lanes on Coronado Blvd. in and around the Park are highly problematic. Cays In discussing this proposed feature with the
identified park design representatives it was clear that none understood the Blvd. serves as an dedicated emergency evacuation route. Once told, their visceral responses were consistent and overtly flawed: “then the community could use both lanes for egress in an emergency.” That answer completely discounted any need or possibility for emergency vehicles to enter the southern-most areas while evacuation efforts are underway.
Nearly 70% of Cay’s residents live in that direction and would need to utilize Coronado Cays Blvd. to leave in an emergency.
One would hope that before such a redesign of the Blvd. was presented as a viable design option, adequate consideration and planning would have been given to the significant impact that change could and would have on longstanding fundamental safety considerations and plans. From what we could tell, it did not.
That remains a concern for us.
Thank you for the opportunity to submit our thoughts for consideration while the City undertakes Park redesign planning processes.
Should our note raise any additional questions or there be a desire to speak with us further regarding the Park, please feel welcome to contact us.
Sincerely,
B
Beth A. Ballerini & Drew J . Couto
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Image is illustrative as an example of a stadium type community court. Please keep in mind that the number of steps/seats/depth is variable. ADA access can and should be accommodated in any such design.
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Image is illustrative only as an example of court addition/realignment, cul-de-sac removal, and parking lot and playground extensions. It is not intended to suggest proposed park enhancements be limited to this depiction.
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October 9, 2023
John Blocker
I was disappointed in the survey and the opons provided in the proposed Master Plan for the Cays Park. It appears that both the survey and the Master Plan were generated by staff in their offices without frequent visits to the site and without a lot of concern about how and when the park was being used.
I will try to provide some of the due diligence that was not done in the report. I have been vising the Cays dog park almost daily for more than 25 years and have observed much that is not included in the Amenity Alternaves. I must say up front that I am a proponent of the dog park.
First, the four plans on paper promise the new park will be abundantly planted with trees. It is apparent that the park needs landscaping. What is not menoned in the report is that the cold wind off the ocean prevent many trees and other plants from growing well. The New Zealand Christmas trees at the southern end of the of the park are stunted and misshapen due to the wind, and this is a tree that will grow in windswept environments. Other trees will not.
Not to menon that the adjacent homeowners will not be happy if their ocean views are blocked by tall trees. Perhaps planng low hedges instead of taller trees might be a remedy. It is important that the landscaper and the city clearly reach an understanding of how the landscape is going to look before it is installed. A windswept landscape will look very different than a planng in Balboa Park.
Also, this park is cold in the winter and spring due to the wind off the ocean. The weather can be warm in the village but require a jacket at the park. The unobstructed wind off the ocean makes the temperatures feel very much like San Francisco. To this end, I would personally leave the children’s playground where it is next to the entrance road. It is likely to be a litle warmer there rather than right next to the wall facing the chilling ocean breezes.
My impression is that the city has not been interested in maintaining the baseball field. This is bourn out in the new plans, proposing that a backstop be built without a dirt infield. This grass-only diamond is placed at the corner of a soccer field and can only be used when soccer games are not in progress.
As residents of the Cays stress, they want Cays Park to be a community park, not a regional park.
That is in terms of this baseball field, an organized league does not use this field. Maybe that is why it is not valued by the city. But I have oen seen fathers tossing so pitches to their children, kids praccing their pitching with their parents, and groups of five or six teenagers hing a ball around and shagging fly balls. A group of seniors pracce their fielding on the infield twice a week oen while soccer games are in progress. Maintaining the dirt infield is an essenal part of keeping the ball field.
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spectators waing at the wall to watch the sunset. And let’s face it, there are scores of other places around Coronado to watch the sunset. And there is no way anyone could launch one of the kites used today from the “kite hill”.
The soccer fields and the dog park are the two most used features of the park. The soccer fields are used almost every day aer school and on a lot of weekends. Having a plan that proposed to maintain only one soccer field, is tantamount to saying, “Yeah, we’re willing to remove youth soccer from the park.” Really? It is clear to me, as a person who just casually watches the soccer games as I walk my dog youth soccer needs at least three fields.
I’m sure more people voted for a sunset viewing plaorm than voted for a dog park. The difference is that if you voted for a viewing plaorm you might come to the park once per year and if you voted for a dog park you come every day and somemes twice a day. People bring their dogs to the park from sunrise to sunset when the rest of the park is oen empty.
It seems to me that “youth soccer” and dog park users, currently the largest users of the park, are undervalued. That is the names of the plans such as “Beauty of the Islands” and “Wonders of the Waters,” are names aimed at a constuency that at the present me does not frequent the park and that evoke neither a soccer player nor a dogwalker.
It is obvious to me that the designers of the dog park do not understand why Cays dog park draws so many people and has been so successful. This park has been successful because it is long and narrow, allowing the dogs to spread out, balls to be thrown and the owners to take a short walk. People are walking essenally in two direcons, up and back. The proposed areas are enclosed triangles where it would be difficult to throw a ball and all the dogs are always close to other dogs as there is no direconalflow. The current footprint of the dog park needs to be maintained if dog park users’ approval of the complete plan is sought.
There is strong senment not to do anything to the park. Current park users need to feel the proposed amenies will make their use of the park beter. It is clear this is not the case at this point.
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Coronado Cays Park
Existing Use
This is the last of the beautiful parks with wide open views of the Mountains to the East and Pacific Ocean to the west. There are uninterrupted views from the entrance of the Coronado Cays to Imperial Beach. The scenic view is the attraction. The calm open views are relaxing and pleasant.
Proposed Use
Crowding this park with hardscape and planting would detract from the open feeling and sight lines for parents to maintain watch of their children.
Additional planting would also provide more areas to maintain. The existing grass is the best use of the landscape.
The existing dog area is 800 feet and linear, similar to a dog run. The proposed dog area is a 400’ and circular, not in keeping with dog exercise. The circle would promote dead grass in the middle. The linear format promotes exercise.
The baseball backstop is used by fathers and their sons to practice hitting and catching. Baseball is an American pastime.Why remove a valuable facility that promotes family interaction? A viewing platform that lowers the West wall would remove a noise barrier. The traffic from motorcycles, loud cars, and trucks would be amplified if the wall is lowered.
A viewing platform offers no benefit to the existing lowered wall to the South. Where is the benefit associated with removing a sound reducing wall and replacing the wall with a viewing platform? The viewing platform would add more noise and danger to young children and pets.
A pond facility is a maintenance struggle. The park designer is showing their naivete with this proposal. A pond presents the opportunity for a child to drown. A child can drown in 3 inches of water. Unsupervised children are currently a problem. A pond is a an additional hazard.
Currently a mowing crew of 3 lawnmowers and 5 maintenance people spend 4 hours a week maintaining the lawn. Has the city earmarked funds for the additional maintenance for any of these proposals?
All of the above proposals increase the density of use, and increase the potential for accidents.
All of the above “enhancements” pose a form of safety and security risk. Will there be police presence and enforcement for the new facilities?
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Suggested improvements
Remove trash after soccer games, the same day. Trash removal will reduce flies and crows in surrounding palm trees. The food attracts the flies and crows and they are taking up residence.
Pressure wash the sidewalk to remove gum from the soccer players.
Have animal control visit the dog park regularly. The number of dogs off leash by the tennis courts and fire department is at a 20 year high.
The new dogs to the area require education on the rules. I have not seen animal control in the dog park for over 5 years.
Have a police car at the intersection of Coronado Cays Blvd. and Grand Caribe Causeway two times a week. The percentage of cars, bicycles, and electric bikes running the stop sign is greater than 50%
Replace the fire department entrance concrete curb as it is crumbling and in disrepair.
Restrict the hours of pickleball to 8 - 5. I do not like hearing the sound of the paddle on the ball during the dinner hour. The sound is unpleasant.
In Summary
The existing park and surrounding area only require more presence by the animal control and police department.
I appreciate the impulse to “improve” the park to look like Spreckels Park in the village. The proposals I viewed suggest “ornamentation” to reduce the effectiveness of the open space.
However the mission of the Coronado Cays park is to provide open space for recreation.
The existing hardscape and plantings require more maintenance.
I suggest the Indian Hawthorn shrubs and other plantings of 60 years could be “freshened”.
Thank you in advance for your efforts.
Kent and Lori Youngberg
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63 Port of Spain Road
Coronado, CA 92118
October 5, 2023
Tony Winney
Assistant City Manager
Coronado City Manager’s Office
Coronado, CA 92118
CC: Glen Schmidt, Schmidt Design Group
Henry Angelino, CCHOA
Coronado City Council
Tina Friend, City Manager
Subject: Coronado Cays Park Master Plan
At this point in the planning process, I have just three general points to convey to the design team and City officials.
1. The design of the four options gives the appearance of trying to fit/force every proposed feature into each and every option. This impression of “stuffing” makes each of the options look busy, especially as compared to the current open space effect of the Park
2. Each of the four designs appears to include the multi-use/soccer fields with light posts in a static, one-time layout as if each field were to be located with fixed boundaries. This design feature violates the principle of planning for biological use that places a premium on contiguous space and flexible use. With soccer, baseball and football, there are historic uses that wear down high-traffic areas quickly and permanently, requiring high maintenance. In baseball, it is the infield, around the bases and especially home plate. In football it is the area directly in front of the goal posts. Soccer is similar, the highest-use areas are immediately in front of the goals. Good management practices dictate that the fields rotate their orientation to avoid wearing down these high-traffic areas, and I would add that the City staff currently does an EXCELLENT job of managing this issue.
3. As I have stated before, the proposal to reduce Cays Boulevard to two lanes (one lake each way) with parking, is dangerous and should be eliminated.
Thank you for your attention to these and other suggestions on this important planning process.
Sincerely,
RG HEAD
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Coronado, CA 92118
October 30, 2023
Tony Winney, Assistant City Manager
City Manager’s Office
Coronado, CA 92118
Copies to: Glen Schmidt, Schmidt Design Group
Coronado City Council Members
CCHOA
CCYC Commodore
Tina Friend, City Manager
Subject: Cays Park Master Plan: Analysis & Comments
I have strong views on the list of improvements to be included in the Coronado Cays Park project, mainly on the multi-use fields. I have followed this effort from the beginning of 2023 and have attended every public meeting on the project. First, let me state my credentials for commenting. My wife and I have owned a Cays house for 26 years and are retired. In my professional career I was an Air Force officer for 27 years and a Space & Environmental Engineer for another 20 years. I have a BS from the US Air Force Academy, a Master’s in Public Administration and a PhD in Political Science. In my civilian work, I was the program manager for 28 different public projects.
I congratulate Glen Schmit and the Schmidt Design Group for their design of the Master Plan Project, their planning and conduct of the public (scoping) meetings and the quality of their several progress reports to the City and other interested stakeholders!
While there is much agreement on many of the improvements to be made to the Park, there appears to be a major issue regarding the amount of open, multi-use sports space among the several options. As briefed by the Schmidt Group, residents of the Village favor the 75/100 percent options, and the residents of the Cays surveyed favor the 25 percent option.
Why are these views so divergent?
The Coronado Cays Park Survey, by True North Research
The True North survey was commissioned, designed and executed as a professional public survey. The staff interviewed 464 people. Of those, 336 residents were from the Village (72.4 percent) and 60 of the Cays (12.9 percent). When asked why the disparity, Glen Schmidt answered, “That represents the distribution of the population in the two communities.” I accept that on the basis that the Cays Park is being designed, funded and maintained for the entire city. We can read the True North Survey as mostly representing the views of the Village due to their larger population.
The questions, phrasing and execution of the survey were professionally vetted and reviewed.
Users of the Current Park. The highest use of the current Park by adults is “Walking and Hiking”, 66 percent (Question 4). The highest use for families with children is soccer, 30 percent (Table 4).
When asked for the priority of amenities to be included in the Park, “Multi-Use Sports Fields”, 38 percent of respondents said HIGH and 25 percent said MEDIUM, a total of 63 percent. Similarly, respondents wanted more “Children’s Playground Equipment” by 41 HIGH and 26 percent MEDIUM, total of 67 percent. This City survey suggests that families with children <5 and 5-15 be the primary beneficiaries of Park improvements. 1 Cays Park Master Plan - Community Outreach Summary - 11.22.2023 361 of 390 City of Coronado Page 691
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The Cays Residents Survey.1 Many residents of the Cays were concerned that the True North survey overweighted the views of the Villagers and the Shores because of their higher percentage participation. Some of the Cays residents especially resented the large percentages supporting families with children under 18. A minority of this group were directly opposed to the high percentage of uses being specifically for soccer. Indeed, one of the Assumptions stated, “The survey assumed that many people in Coronado, including Cay’s residents, would be concerned if a private club in any way dominated the use of any Coronado public park, and especially if the club dominated the design of a public park.” This assumption overlooks the finding that adults expressed their opinion that their favorite use of the park is “Walking and Hiking”. The Cays survey focusses instead on the specific use by the Coronado Futbal Club, a division of the Coronado Youth Soccer League, specifically the Coronado FC Competitive Soccer program that competes in the SoCal Soccer League under the direction and programming established by US CLUB SOCCER: https://www.usclubsoccer.org/ and plays on the Cays Park fields.
Cays Survey questions 2 and 6 were designed specifically to this point: 2), “Without considering Tidelands, and without looking at any of the plans, but understanding that Cays Park is a public park, how much of the current open space in the park do you feel should be designed and set aside (emphasis added) for the private soccer club (‘Coronado Futbal Club’) to use throughout the year according to their normal schedule . . . ?” The largest percentage (42.7%) selected the answer, “No area of a public park should be designed and set aside primarily for just one private club. It’s a public park.” The next largest percentage (16.1%) answered, [only] “25% of the park’s open space should be designed and set aside for the private soccer club’s use.”
Question 6: “If you had to choose one of the 4 conceptual options pictured below [picture included in actual survey] presently under consideration, which one would it be?” Options:
25%:
50%
75%
53.7% of the respondents.
17.0%
14.4%
100% 14.9%
The difference between the two surveys’ purposes, questions and respondents’ answers could not be clearer.
Why are the differences so dramatic?
There are several possibilities:
1. The purposes of the two surveys were distinctly different. The True North survey’s purpose was to “gather statistically reliable data on the community’s priorities and opinions as they relate to the Cays Park.
The Cays Survey stated no specific purpose. An implied purpose was to gather only Cays residents’ opinions on the “dominance” of the Coronado Youth Soccer League and to include “Conclusive Statements Regarding Various Park Details.”
2. The populations surveyed were very different. One was inclusive of Coronado residents; one was limited to Cay’s residents.
3. A major difference resides in the populations of the two groups. The all-Coronado group includes a large percentage of Village residents with small children (1-5 years) and older children (5-18). The Cays residents are mostly older couples whose children have moved away. The fundamental interests of the two groups are clear and understandable. Many Cays residents see and feel the impact of large groups of children and automobiles during soccer games, and especially tournaments. 1 “Data-based Conclusions Regarding the 4 Master Plan Cays Park Options Based on a Statistically Significant Survey of Cays Residents Completed 10/16/23.”
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4. While the True North survey was the result of professional planning and execution, the Cays Survey was the product of a single person/small group with an announced point of view against the soccer club.
5. The Cays survey was a series of leading questions, indicating a bias against the soccer club.
6. One could summarize the differences with a variation of the old saying, “Where you stand depends on where you live.”
My Input
I support the principle that public decisions should support the greatest benefit for the greatest number. I am persuaded by discussions with Cays and Village residents that the merits of retaining 75 percent of the open space for “Multi-Use Sports Fields” is the best option. While one can argue for the 100 percent option, the lesser amount of space for soccer in the 75 percent option appears adequate and would allow for the inclusion of a large number of other improvements desired by citizens. The 25 percent option would be a travesty for our children.
Rationale: Historical use is a powerful factor in public land use cases. The argument by the detractors that the Coronado Futbol Club has “dominated” the use, and that somehow the City Parks & Recreation Department has colluded in this outcome, is ludicrous. There is no data to support that there was any competing organization or group that was prohibited or displaced from using the open space. Soccer use is temporary, if frequent, nondestructive and still provided for other uses, even during soccer games. • Soccer has become a national sport. Men’s and Women’s soccer have achieved popular local, national and international fame.
• When Title IX requiring equality of opportunity in sports, soccer was one of the first fields to expand.
Participation rates for girls and women soared in grade and high schools, universities and clubs. Girls’ teams participate regularly in Cays Park matches.
• When I entered the Air Force Academy, I was appalled to learn that nearly 50 percent of American young men did not qualify for military service because of physical or mental deficiencies. Sports combat those deficiencies.
• Since the advent of high-speed computation and the universal distribution of cell phones and personal computers, the addiction of sedentary recreation has increased dramatically. As the leaders in our community, we should do everything we can to support active recreation for all ages, especially our children.
• In my opinion, team sports are one of the best training venues in preparing for the physical, mental and especially social, challenges of life.
• The current soccer program in Coronado provides a healthy, organized, active recreation activity for the greatest number of citizens of any of the proposals. There are two famous quotes:
“On the fields of friendly strife are sown the seeds and that on other days and other fields will bear the fruits of victory.” -- General Douglas MacArthur, Superintendent of West Point “The battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton." --Ascribed to the Duke of Wellington Specific Comments
The dominant decision before the City Council is the guidance to integrate the best features of the four options, including a host of amenities to improve the Cays Park.
1. Cays Park is currently characterized by open space. In an era of urban sprawl, accelerated by the recently mandated increased density housing in Coronado, the City Council should be cautious about dramatic decreases in the City’s largest available open space.
2. One of the foundational principles of medicine is to “Do No Harm.” The Cays community is blessed with a single entrance/exit that fosters security. Adding any other entry/exit point would be unsupervised and decrease security. This should be rejected.
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3. Narrowing Cays Boulevard for any reason is unsafe, unneeded and should be avoided.
4. Coronado is renowned for its broad, tree-lined boulevards; indeed, the median on Orange Avenue is arguably the distinguishing feature of the Village. Adding trees to Cays Park is a worthy idea. I support the Cays Survey in opining, “The park should have a moderate number of trees.”
5. The baseball backstop could be eliminated as Tidelands Park is better designed for that sport.
6. The Coronado Youth Soccer League already has a requirement that a very high percentage of players be Coronado citizens. Any adoption by the City Council of a 100 percent requirement would be antidemocratic and would eliminate regional tournaments that we proudly host currently.
7. If the restroom is redesigned like the one in Spreckels Park, there is no need for a second.
8. A size of 1.5 acres for the dog park should be adequate.
9. There should be only one dog park, and it should have physical and natural barriers.
10. The children’s play area should be enlarged, and the equipment improved.
11. The proposal for nature-based play should be implemented.
12. Some area of the Park should be particularly beautiful.
13. The Park should be designed with the principle of drought resistance and improved irrigation.
14. The open space reserved for active recreation should be adequate for the occasional community event.
15. The Park should foster both privacy and community. It should have a kind of center where people can socialize.
16. Lighting will detract from the natural beauty of the Park.
17. The Park should have a few more picnic tables.
18. If public art can be incorporated without detracting from Nature, that would be a plus.
19. The park does not need a bicycle station.
20. The Park should have many places to read or relax in the shade.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the progress of this project. We stand ready to participate in any additional considerations as the project proceeds.
With great respect,
/s/
RG Head, PhD
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APPENDIX E: PUBLIC COMMENTS VIA PARKS AND REC COMMISSION Community members have shared their input with the Park and Rec Commission via email.
Comments received can be found in the following pages. Personal information has been redacted for privacy reasons.
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November 1, 2023
City of Coronado Parks and Recreation Commission
1825 Strand Way
Coronado, CA. 92118
RE: Cays Park Master Plan
Dear Commission Chair Sarich and Commissioners,
First of all, I want to applaud all who have been involved in the current park planning process. It has been an excellent process to date. It is important work as the decisions made now will directly impact the Cays (where I live) and the greater Coronado community for decades and most certainly our lifetimes.
Cays Park presents a spectacular setting - unrivaled in the county - and a location worthy of special consideration as it forms the centerpiece of the Cays community and is the only of the city’s 18 parks that most of the Cays residents can walk to. I recently listened to Glen Schmidt’s presentation to the Cays HOA board on his findings from the Cays Park Master Planning process. While clear direction has been indicated in many areas there is one critical question which has yet to be answered: How much space is going to be allocated to “active sports” - meaning the soccer fields.
Multiple surveys and this planning process have clearly indicated the community’s desire for more amenities; however, if more space is not made available there will not be adequate physical space to appropriately include them.
For 40 years soccer has dominated Cays park - turning it into a “regional soccer facility” to quote our former city manager. No one I’ve spoken to over the past 2+ years wants to eliminate soccer but CYSL’s desires need to be balanced with the needs of the community.
I understand that CYSL has indicated they can operate with 75% of their existing space and that is what I am asking you to support. Supporting a 75% plan will create a win-win for both soccer and the community and therefore should be an easy decision.
At the end of the day, all I am asking for is a park plan that is fair, balanced and equitable taking into account the needs of ALL Coronado residents.
Thank you for your consideration,
Heidi Wilson
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From:
To:
Sherry McGlaughlin
Jonathan Brouillard
Subject: Fwd: Comments from resident Tina Christiansen for November 2 for meeting of the Rec Board on Cays Park Master Plan
Date: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 9:20:27 AM
Please include in public comment.
Sherry McGlauGhlin
Senior ManaGeMent analySt
c i t y o f c o r o n a d o
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t: 619-522-2451
c: 619-455-2853
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Subject: comments from resident tina christiansen for november 2 for meeting of the rec Board on cays Park Master Plan
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Dear Recreation Board Members.
Cc City Council, City Manager and Assistant City Manager, Director Rec and Golf Services My name is Tina Christiansen, a resident of Coronado beginning with high school in 1968 (as a Navy kid and I moved back here in 1990.)
I’m writing to advocate for a well balanced, well thought out master plan for this park. This is important. It is the largest piece of land owned by the City of Coronado.
As the advisory board to the City Council, your deliberations on this matter are of great interest to the community and to the City Council.
No doubt there will be a large crowd addressing you at the hearing.
I urge you however, not to get overly focused ,or drawn into, the advocacy of the various groups for the size of their particular use over the advocacy of other groups to favor space for theirs. That’s not the most important issue the Council needs your comments on. Well, you ask, if it’s not just trying to pick one percentage use plan over another then what is it? The City Council asked for the four different designs with a differing mix of active sports and Cays Park Master Plan - Community Outreach Summary - 11.22.2023 367 of 390 City of Coronado Page 697
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passive uses so that they( and you ) could see what the possibilities are for this parks amenities might look like at the hands of a truly creative park designer. You can tell from the surveys that we love our parks. However , this one is not only badly need of repair, it’s also an opportunity for a much better and more accommodating park layout and design. The Cays park currently has failing tennis court paving at a structural level and an extremely distressed and sparsely planted green scape .
The City Council wisely decided that before the city embarks on paying to have those features dug up , renovated and replaced , that they would pause first to envision the possibilities. They asked the City Manager to hire a park design consultant and provide studies to explore these questions : Could a more efficient layout get us more benefit per square foot of use for this precious piece of land? What’s not out there that needs to be? That’s what the City Council is asking you to comment on.
Whatever they decide will serve the citizens of this generation and those to come.
Here is what I ask my self when I visit this park:
Where are the pathways that meander around and through the park, with some semblance of separation from running dogs? The bathrooms are crumbling and so is the children’s play structure. Surely there is a way to do better. The Council needs to hear from you on what’s important to you.
You have volunteered your time to encourage and support recreation in this city, and you each have the opportunity to make a difference in the lives of all park users, young and old alike. Look at each of the designs for features that you and your children will want to use for a lifetime. Do not lose this opportunity to make recommendations on this collection of master designs by a truly talented park planner. It won’t come around again, ever.
In conclusion, please do make recommendations that support the City Council’s efforts to work with the consultant to redesign and reinvest in this park wisely. Make what is now the most poorly planned community park of any in the City to become one that welcomes those that live near it and want to use it and one that also better accommodates users who arrive by bike or car for active and passive uses.
Thank you for listening to all of us first, too.
Sincerely,
Tina Christiansen
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From:
To: Jonathan Brouillard
Subject:
Date:
Re: Public Comments
Tuesday, October 31, 2023 12:24:20 PM
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Oh yay jonathan thank you do much Will you please add this to the email in their packet From Tina Christiansen, one additional comment!
In my efforts to make my first ketter shorter i i advertently edited out my comment on trees.
Ack. So here it is:
Where are the trees? I count maybe twenty to twenty five trees at the Cays Park. Even this meager planting peovides little or no respite from the summer sun.
Take a look at Tidelands park . It has almost two hundred trees. In this park, the Port District found space for these in ways that do not interfere with the parks large open areas fir sports uses. Nor do the trees block the views of the water.
If we only do one thing , May we please have some trees!!!! Tina Christiansen
On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:33AM, Jonathan Brouillard
<[email protected]> wrote:
Good morning Tina,
I can confirm that your comments will be included in the packet given to the Commission before this Thursday’s meeting. I’ll be compiling all comments we received and sending over to them on Thursday morning.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
All the best,
JoNAThAN BRouILLARd
mANAGEmENT AssIsTANT
C I T y o f C o R o N A d o
RE C R E A T I o N & Go L f sE R v IC E s
T: 619-522-2438
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DATA-BASED CONCLUSIONS
REGARDING THE 4 MASTER PLAN CAYS PARK OPTIONS
BASED ON A STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT SURVEY
OF CAYS RESIDENTS COMPLETED 10/16/23
(Please visit cayspark.weebly.com for complete data in graphical form with analysis and all comments received.) Response Rate and Confidence Level
The survey had 199 respondents which is many times what is necessary to ensure that the results are “statistically significant” and represent the entire Cays population with a 95% Confidence Level (the accepted industry standard). By comparison only 60 Cays residents participated in the city’s recent Cays Park survey.
Assumptions
The survey assumed that many people in Coronado, including Cays residents, would be concerned if a private club in any way dominated the use of any Coronado public park, and especially if the club dominated the design of a public park. No private club in the Village has ever been allowed to dominate a city park, including the design of a city park, and including Sunset Park. Thus a key element of the survey was to determine if Cays residents want to permanently establish a different “ethic” in this regard in the Cays.
Advantages of a Data-Based Approach
The survey database has 13,332 “discrete data elements” that collectively represent the opinions of all Cays residents with a high degree of confidence. In some manner of thinking, this database can be roughly equated to 13,332 Post-it notes, feedback cards, and emails that would have been received if the survey had been conducted “manually.”
There are two advantages to such a large database: (1) There are an incredible number of “facts” that are reliable from a statistical confidence point of view and there is nothing “anecdotal” about the interpretation; the data is the data. (2) The database (in an Excel spreadsheet) can be queried in thousands of ways to answer any desired specific question by any reasonably competent analyst.
For example, it would be a simple matter to query the database as to the opinions of people in Bahama and Trinidad who have views of the park about trees in the park. Similarly it would be a simple matter to determine how dog owners feel about a dog park barrier, or the size of the dog park, or how people in Bahama alone near the tennis and pickleball courts feel about pickleball, etc. etc. etc.
Key Questions the Survey Sought To Address
1. To what extent are Cays residents interested in encouraging the city to investigate increased efficiency in the use of space at Tidelands Park?
2. To what extent should a private club (Coronado Futbol Club) dominate the use, and now even the design process, of a public park?
3. To what extent should the open space in Cays Park be dedicated to the needs of the Futbol Club if 0% was an option in addition to the 25%, 50%, 75% and 100% options presently offered?
4. To what extent should the open space in Cays Park be dedicated to the needs of the Futbol Club if 0% was not option (as is presently the case) and the choices were only 25%, 50%, 75% and 100%?
5. To what extent do Cays residents support the Master Plan process, as opposed to just leaving the park “the way it is”?
Additional Questions
1. Which of the four park themes presently proposed do Cays residents prefer?
2. How do Cays residents feel about each one of approximately 40 different park features when asked about them one at a time?
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KEY RESULTS (Survey Questions 1, 2, 6, 7 & 10)
Regarding Tidelands Park
Question #1: “Before making the basic decision about how much Cays Park should accommodate soccer, do you think the City should take a hard look at how much soccer can be accommodated at Tidelands Park, understanding that the layout at Tidelands was (a) designed almost 40 years ago (long before soccer became popular) (b) has never been updated since and (c) was built specifically for Coronado youth field sports? Note:
The diagram below [included in the actual survey] shows how 3 large fields could easily be added at Tidelands; a professional re-design might yield many more. Most soccer players reside in the Village.” Absolutely yes.
Yes.
Not sure / no opinion.
No.
56.8%
19.6%
9.5%
9.0%
Absolutely not. 5.0%
Regarding Private Use of a Public Park
Question #2:“Without considering Tidelands, and without looking at any of the plans, but understanding that Cays Park is a public park, how much of the current open space in the park do you feel should be designed and set aside for the private soccer club ("Coronado Futbol Club") to use throughout the year according to their normal schedule: weekdays from 3-7pm and from 8am-5pm Saturday and Sunday. (Note: As of this writing they have indicated that 75% of the open space will enable them to support their goal of training 24 competitive teams from Coronado).”
25% of the park's open space should be designed and set aside for the private soccer club's use.
50% of the park's open space should be designed and set aside for the private soccer club's use.
75% of the park's open space should be designed and set aside for the private soccer club's use.
16.1%
11.1%
8.5%
100% of the park's open space should be designed and set aside for the private soccer club's use.
6.0%
We really should figure out the situation at Tidelands first. 11.6% No area of a public park should be designed and set aside primarily for just one private club. It's a public park.
Other:
42.7%
4.0%
Regarding Option Preference If Choice Limited to Only 4 Options Now Under Consideration Question #6: “If you had to choose one of the 4 conceptual options pictured below [picture included in actual survey] presently under consideration, which one would it be? (Note: the number refers to the percentage of the park's open space dedicated to the soccer club and generally not available to the public during their normal hours of use.)”
Option 100%.
Option 75%.
Option 50%.
Option 25%.
14.9%
14.4%
17.0%
53.7%
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Regarding Degree of Satisfaction with Current Design
Options Question #7: “Looking at the 4 conceptual options above [picture included in actual survey], is there one that really speaks to you as fundamentally a good plan for Cays Park?” Yes, Option 100%.
Yes, Option 75%.
Yes, Option 50%.
Yes, Option 25%.
11.1%
13.6%
13.1%
30.2%
No. Not one of them really "speaks" to me. 32.2%
Regarding Satisfaction With The Master Plan Process As Opposed To
Just Leaving The Park “The Way It Is”?
Question #10: “I like the idea of a Master Plan. Cays Park can be improved.” Strongly Agree 37.7%
Agree 30.7%
No Opinion.
Disagree.
Strongly Disagree.
14.0%
9.6%
8.0%
(see next page)
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PARK DESIGN DETAILS QUESTION RESULTS
Conclusive Statements Regarding Various Park Details Based on Specific Survey Questions (see specific data related to each statement if desired online at cayspark.weebly.com)
1. The park should have a moderate number of trees. Special consideration should be given to residents in Bahama and Trinidad villages who have views of the park.
2. The park design should place more emphasis on trees and less emphasis on shrubs and bushes.
3. The mix in the park of shrubs and bushes should be equal or slightly favoring shrubs.
4. If some portion of the park’s open space is going to be dedicated primarily for the use of a private club it should be 25%.
5. If the 25% option is chosen, the arrangement of the features should be carefully considered and improved.
6. “Wonders of the Strand” is the preferred theme, potentially in combination with “Beauty of the Islands.”
7. Eight pickleball courts should be retained, no more, no less.
8. Four tennis courts should be retained, no more, no less.
9. A half-court basketball court would be adequate.
10. The baseball backstop should be eliminated.
11. The City should consider a policy requiring that all soccer players be Coronado residents or encouraging the soccer club to adopt such a policy.
12. The park should have two restrooms.
13. The size of the dog park should be 1.5 acres and, if the dog park is made larger, it should only be made slightly larger.
14. The dog park should have a barrier.
15. There should be only one dog park.
16. The bike path should not be directly connected to the park.
17. The park should have a “Sunset Hill.”
18. The park should have a “Sunset Deck.”
19. The wall height in the park should be reduced at certain locations.
20. The children's play area should be enlarged slightly.
21. The equipment in the children's play area should be improved.
22. The idea of nature-based play for children should be implemented.
23. If the park is going to have a water feature, it should be designed very carefully.
24. The park should have a moderate number of trees.
25. The park should have a moderate number of shrubs and bushes.
26. The landscaping of the park should look more natural rather than carefully planted.
27. In addition to natural landscaping, the park should have gardens.
28. Some area of the park should be particularly beautiful.
29. Many Cays residents would be willing to assist with maintenance of park landscaping.
30. The park should be designed with drought tolerance in mind.
31. The park should have a fitness hub, but it should not be large.
32. The park should have space for community events, but probably it should not be overly large.
33. The park should have lots of places to walk.
34. The park should be a community park and it should have a kind of “center” where people can socialize.
35. The park should have nice night lighting.
36. The park should have at least a few picnic tables outside of the dog area.
37. The park should have public art, but it must be selected very carefully.
38. The park does not need a bicycle repair station.
39. The park should have many places to read or relax in the shade.
40. Coronado Cays Boulevard should remain two lanes and without roundabouts as it is currently configured.
41. The total number of parking spaces associated with the park should remain the same.
42. The park should not have head-in parking at the north end.
43. The park should be designed primarily to serve Coronado residents as opposed to serving the broader San Diego community.
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Data-Driven Decisions — 4 points
What do Cays residents
want in Cays Park?
1. Data analysis is the way smart people and smart
organizations make smart decisions about complex topics in the modern world.
KEY FINDINGS from the 2021 & 2023 Surveys 2. Given the size of Cays Park, and the complexity of the various options concerning it, data analysis is the only good way to make smart decisions for the related Cays Park
Master Plan. Kevin Reilly
11/1/2023
Data-Driven Decisions — 4 points Data-Driven Decisions — 4 points
4. What does the data say Cays residents want the park to be in the future? 3. Cays Park was built to be a primarily “Passive Recreation” park for Cays residents. Today it is an almost entirely “Active Recreation” Park for public court sports and
especially the private Coronado Futbol Club. This presentation (a) summarizes the key findings from the 2023 Cays Park Options survey, (b) shows the data
implementation graphically, and (c) concludes with
supporting data from the other surveys conducted between 2019 and 2023.
This shift from predominantly Passive Recreation to
predominantly Active Recreation in Cays Park occurred
during Blair King’s tenure as City Manager.
Complete survey data is available at cayspark.weebly.com.
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2023 Cays Park Options Survey
• This survey focused on the 4 conceptual options provided by the Schmidt Design Group and is the only statistically valid representation of the opinions of Cays residents
toward those 4 Options and the related details.
2023 Cays Park Options Survey
• Over half of Cays residents favored the 25% Option, and they favored it by a margin of over 3 to 1.
• Said another way, if any other option is chosen, for every one Cays resident who is happy, 3 will be unhappy.
2023 Cays Park Options Survey 2023 Cays Park Options Survey • Without question, the data shows that the 25% option is the only one that will be acceptable to the majority of Cays residents. • While the 25% Option is the only choice acceptable to the majority of Cays residents, they only support it with major changes to the layout and details as shown herein... • Remarkably, 43% of Cays residents want private club soccer eliminated from the park altogether. These residents only chose the 25% option because no lesser choice was
offered by the city.
• 68% of Cays residents support the Master Plan process and feel that Cays Park can be improved. The “no change” idea vocalized by some residents is not widely supported.
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25% PLAN REVISIONS
This is the 25% Option—the
only option that will be
acceptable to the majority of
Cays residents, although only
with significant revision.
This dog park is 2.5 acres.
Cays residents do not want
the dog park enlarged. Even
most dog owners do not
want the dog park enlarged.
25% PLAN REVISIONS 25% PLAN REVISIONS
Cays residents do not want the
soccer field located here. They
want it between the Fire Station
and the existing tennis courts, in
the current area of Fields 3 and
4. (2021 Cays Park Survey)
This water feature does not
have widespread support.
Careful further study is
required if it is going to be
included.
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25% PLAN REVISIONS 25% PLAN REVISIONS
Cays residents have said
clearly that the children’s
play area does not need to
be this large. Also, they
prefer “nature based play”
for the “equipment.”
Cays residents have said
that the parking capacity
of the park should not be
expanded.
25% PLAN REVISIONS 25% PLAN REVISIONS
Cays residents with ocean
views are concerned that
the fences around the
pickleball and tennis courts
will block their views in this
location.
Cays residents do not want
the number of pickleball
and/or tennis courts
increased.
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25% PLAN REVISIONS 25% PLAN REVISIONS
Cays residents have said
that a half-court basketball
court is all that is needed.
Cays residents want the
Passive Recreation area of the
park consolidated in the
southern half of the park, not
shaped irregularly and wedged
between the Fire Station,
maintenance building, tennis
courts and soccer field.
25% PLAN REVISIONS Although it is far more soccer
than Cays residents want, one
possible “compromise solution” is
to remove the baseball backstop
and dedicate Fields 3 and 4 just
for the Coronado Futbol Club.
This provides a large area just for
soccer and involves a minimal
change to the park.
COMPROMISE SOLUTION
Cays residents want lots of walking paths through a
large “natural looking” Passive Recreation area, not
restricted to “around and between” a large soccer field, tennis courts and the Fire Station.
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COMPROMISE SOLUTION COMPROMISE SOLUTION
The tennis, pickleball and
basketball courts can also be left
just as they are. This should
make Cays Bahama Village
residents who live nearby happy.
The sand volleyball court can
be removed and used for
soccer goal storage just as it
is now. The horseshoe pit
can also be removed.
COMPROMISE SOLUTION COMPROMISE SOLUTION
The parking lot can
stay just as it is.
The new maintenace building
the Public Works Dept wants
can go here (in the location of
the unused horseshoe pit).
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COMPROMISE SOLUTION COMPROMISE SOLUTION The cul-de-sac could potentially be removed to create more park
space if desired.
The dog park can stay just as it is
with the addition of a low barrier
of some kind.
COMPROMISE SOLUTION COMPROMISE SOLUTION
The Children’s Play Area should
be converted to “Nature Based
Play” and expanded just a little in
its existing location. Shade
This area (Fields 1 and 2) should
be landscaped and turned into a
dedicated Passive Recreation
space for Cays residents and the
public at large.
structures should be included.
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OVERALL PROPOSED PLAN OVERALL PROPOSED PLAN
The north half of the park should
be dedicated to Active
Recreation/Sports, to include
soccer, pickleball, tennis, and
basketball.
PROPOSED PLAN OVERVIEW PROPOSED PLAN OVERVIEW
The dog park should be left just
as it is with the addition of a low
barrier of some kind.
The south half of the park should
be dedicated to Passive
Recreation, “Connections to
Nature,” and Aesthetics. It should
include the Children’s Play Area.
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PROPOSED PLAN OVERVIEW
DOG PARK
ACTIVE
RECREATION
AREA
PASSIVE Supporting Data from other surveys
RECREATION
AREA
3 Other Cays Park Surveys
1. 2019 Cays Park Survey
2. 2021 Cays Park Survey
3. 2023 True North Cays Park Survey 2019 Cays Park Survey • With the exception of the 2019 Survey all other surveys met standard industry requirements for “statistical significance” with acceptable margins of error and thus very likely
represented the views of the “target population” with a high degree of confidence.
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2019 Cays Park Survey
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The 2019 survey was poorly conducted by a contractor who was subsequently fired by the city.
It yielded no significant conclusions that were not better 2021 Cays Park Survey defined by later surveys.
Consequently for practical purposes it may be disregarded. 2021 Cays Park Survey 2021 Cays Park Survey
• When asked what the basic function of Cays Park should be, Cays residents established these priorities in this order:
• When asked how the space in Cays Park should be
allocated, Cays residents said less than 50% of park space should be allocated to Active Recreation (sports) and more than 50% of park space should be allocated to Passive
Recreation (for general park use, like Spreckels Park).
1. Connections to Nature / Aesthetics
2. Passive Recreation
3. Amenities
4. Active Recreation
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2021 Cays Park Survey 2021 Cays Park Survey
• When given various options for the arrangement of park features, 53% of Cays residents preferred leaving the tennis courts where they are, leaving the space between the Fire Station and the tennis courts for soccer (Fields 3 and 4), and devoting the entire southern half of the park to Passive Recreation.
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•
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Cays residents want a beautiful “centerpiece” park that features ocean views, trees, drought resistant landscaping, and nice walking paths for day and evening use.
They want to walk in the park, walk their dogs in the park, socialize with their neighbors, have picnics and participate in exercise groups.
• 23% of Cays residents indicated a preference for leaving the tennis courts as they are and devoting the entire rest of the park to Passive Recreation (eliminating the soccer fields entirely).
The off-leash area for dogs should be separated from the rest of the park by a low fence or barrier of some kind. •
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The area allocated to the dog park should not be expanded.
The park’s parking capacity should not be changed.
2021 Cays Park Survey
• A large portion of the park should be turned into “a beautiful, aesthetic centerpiece of the Cays community, much as
Spreckels Park serves as a beautiful, aesthetic centerpiece in the Village.
2023 True North Cays Park Survey
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2023 True North Survey 2023 True North Survey
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Although billed as a “Cays Park Survey” only 12% of the respondents were Cays residents.
• From the perspective of Coronadans as a whole, the top 25% “amenities for inclusion in Cays Park” are:
88% of the respondents were non-Cays residents, most of whom do not use Cays Park regularly and do not care much about it.
1. Shade trees
2. Walking paths
3. Bicycle amenities
• Thus the True North Survey should only be considered as representing the views of Coronado residents as a whole. It cannot be considered as representing the views of Cays
residents in any way.
4. Children’s playground equipment
5. Dog park
6. View areas and place to watch the sunset
2023 True North Survey
• Notably “multi-use sports fields” (soccer fields) did not make the top 25% of “amenities for inclusion in Cays Park” from the perspective of Coronadans as a whole, and yet soccer fields are the primary focus of all 4 Cays Park options.
Full survey data is available at
cayspark.weebly.com
• This fact indicates that the enormous amount of attention placed on accommodating the desires of the Coronado
Futbol Club (soccer) relative to Cays Park is entirely
misplaced.
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4. OVERALL PARK FUNCTION PLANNING: PLEASE RANK YOUR PRIORITIES Refer to the presentation for representative pictures of Active Recreation, Passive Recreation, Connections to Nature/Aesthetics and Amenities
ACTIVE RECREATION PASSIVE RECREATI… CONNECTIONS TO… AMENITIES Backup Slides
138 160 169 51 72 205 130 111 92 115 111 200 216 38 108 156 #1 in importance
to me
#2 in importance
to me
#3 in importance
to me
#4 in importance
to me
4. OVERALL PARK FUNCTION PLANNING: PLEASE RANK YOUR PRIORITIES 6. PARK DESIGN CONCEPTS Refer to the presentation for representative pictures of Active Recreation, Passive Recreation, Connections to Nature/Aesthetics and Amenities
Strongly Agree Agree No Opinion Disagree Strongly Disagree.
ACTIVE RECREATION PASSIVE RECREATI… CONNECTIONS TO… AMENITIES I like the idea of turning
Cays Resident Priorities some large portion of Cays
Park into a beautiful,
aesthetic centerpiece of the
Cays community, much as
Spreckels Park serves as a
beautiful, aesthetic
1. Connections to Nature/Aesthetics
2. Passive Recreation
3. Amenities
16 4. Active Recreation 9 85 73 27 37
138 8 108 156 centerpiece in the Village. 241 120 39 68 50 #1 in importance
to me
#2 in importance
to me
#3 in importance
to me
#4 in importance
to me
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6. PARK DESIGN CONCEPTS 8. TYPES OF “PASSIVE” ACTIVITIES THAT YOU THINK THE PARK SHOULD Strongly Agree Agree No Opinion Disagree Strongly Disagree. BE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE Band concerts
Birthday parties
Picnics
Make it into a truly
community park where
residents can gather.
Daytime walks
Evening walks
Social/neighbors
Community events
Art shows
Exercise groups
Small performances
Other:_____
219 152 68 48 31
Note: 49 (9.4%) “Other” responses next page.
2021 Survey Key Findings
1. 50% or more of the park space overall should be allocated to Passive Recreation and Connections to Nature / Aesthetics
2. Some large area of the park should be “a beautiful, aesthetic centerpiece of the Cays community, much as Spreckels Park serves as a beautiful, aesthetic centerpiece in the Village”
3. The park should feature ocean views, trees, drought resistant landscaping, and nice walking paths for both day and evening use
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DRAFT CORONADO PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Special Meeting Minutes
November 2, 2023
3:30 p.m.
1. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL:
Darrell Sarich, Commission Chair, called the meeting to order at 3:30 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: Russ Allen, Andrew Corley, Andy Koczon, Nellie Ritter, Darrell Sarich
STUDENT REP: Sophia Hodges
EXCUSED:
ABSENT:
STAFF: Jonathan Brouillard, Tim Farmer, Sherry McGlaughlin
2. AGENDA CHANGES:
NONE
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Approval of minutes from the June 12, 2023 Regular Meeting and August 23, 2023 Joint Workshop.
A motion to accept the minutes as read was made by Commissioner Koczon and seconded by Commissioner Allen.
The motion carried with the following results:
Yes (5) Allen, Corley, Koczon, Ritter, Sarich
4. COMMUNICATIONS – ORAL:
Kevin Reilly provided comment regarding any potential conflicts of interest with the Commission.
Tina Christensen disagrees with Mr. Reilly and does not see any potential conflict of interest.
Jerry Waterlander would like the Cays dog park hours to start later in the morning due to noise concerns.
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Commissioner Corley requested that this topic be added as a future agenda item for discussion.
5. ACTION ITEMS:
NONE
6. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS/STAFF REPORTS
Tony Winney, Assistant City Manager, introduced Glenn Schmidt of Schmidt Design Group. Mr. Schmidt presented a review of the Cays Park Master Plan Design Options and a recap of the overall project.
Commissioner Ritter asked about the timing of the public meetings being in the evening, and if that allowed for enough parents with young children to attend.
Mr. Schmidt responded that the student population was hard to engage due to scheduling issues at the high school, but several children did attend the pop-up event at the library.
Commissioner Koczon asked how the four design options were ranked.
Mr. Schmidt responded that a vote wasn’t conducted, rather running feedback was taken into consideration. However, the 100 and 75 options seemed to garner the best feedback.
Commissioner Allen inquired about the process of arriving at one design plan.
Mr. Schmidt responded that the amount of open recreation space will be decided first, and from there they will take all the feedback they’ve received into account.
Commissioner Sarich asked how the park would be lit at night aside from vertical lighting structures on the ball fields.
Mr. Schmidt responded that there would be security lighting on the pathways.
Bob Plumbley spoke in opposition to additional lighting and would like the exterior wall to be kept at it’s current height.
Robin Hagemann spoke about her experience on the Mobility Commission and urged the Commission to keep the whole Community in mind, not just the Cays.
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been thought about, bathroom options, and irrigation and water usage. Ms. Brenden also spoke in opposition to any private surveys being used.
Liza Butler supports changes to the park but would like to see it become much more inclusive.
Dan Hunting spoke in support of the playing fields and wants to keep the park as is.
Jim Collora and Richard Tolles spoke in opposition to any changes to the park outside of basic improvements.
Tina Christensen provided comment on the park becoming more community focused, rather than revolving around sports use.
Kevin Reilly provided a presentation to the Commission.
Commissioners Allen and Ritter wouldn’t feel comfortable selecting just one of the design options, they would prefer to give overall feedback.
Commissioner Ritter reiterated that Tidelands Park should be taken into consideration when it comes to easing sports field usage at Cays Park and voiced her opposition to removing the baseball infield as well as the basketball court.
Commissioner Corley provided comment that pickleball courts should be placed away from houses in order to reduce noise concerns.
Commissioner Sarich voiced support for keeping the park as is while making basic improvements and repairs.
Commissioner Koczon voiced support for making the park more inclusive as well as adding an amenity for sunset viewing.
Commissioner Ritter brought up elements from other parks that Schmidt Design Group has worked on and inquired as to why they weren’t included in the four design options and whether they might be taken into consideration in the future.
Mr. Schmidt responded that a lot of those elements were included, but they’ll be able to get into more detail with them at the next level of design.
Commissioner Sarich inquired as to what the budget for this project is.
Mr. Schmidt answered that they have not been given any guidance on that yet.
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Commissioner Allen expressed strong objections to substantially decreasing the number of available open play fields.
Commissioner Ritter voiced her support for making changes in order to make the best park for future generations.
7. DIRECTORS REPORT:
NONE
8. COMMISSIONER’S REPORT
NONE
9. ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 5:19 p.m.
Prepared by: Approved by:
____________________________ ________________________________ Jonathan Brouillard, Management Assistant Darrell Sarich, Commission Chair City of Coronado Page 724
C.C.H.O.A.
505 Grand Caribe Cswy.
Coronado, CA 921 18
City of Coronado
HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION
Assistant City Manager Tony Winney
1825 Strand Way
Coronado, CA 92118
November 16, 2023
Dear Tony:
Office 619.423.4353
Fax 619.424.3923
www .cchoa.org
On behalf of the Coronado Cays HOA Board of Directors, I would like to thank you for the thorough and informative presentation on the Cays Park Master Plan at our meeting of October 19th. The four schematics have generated a lot of interest and a wide array of opinions as evidenced by the City's survey, the public meetings, written comments, and feedback that we have received directly from our members.
While a clear consensus has not emerged, we think the following recommendations enjoy substantial support from our members and are supported by our Board of Directors.
We support the proposed 75% plan and its associated amenities, provided the following revisions are made:
1. Eliminate the volleyball pit. It will be difficult to keep clean and groomed. In its place substitute a nature-based playground and/or more green space.
2. Include two half courts for basketball instead of one full court. Full court play is infrequent, so two half courts would enjoy greater use.
3. Include two restrooms instead of one. We favor the second one closer to the dog park, which would result in less transiting of the park with dogs and be more convenient overall.
4. Include a grass diamond backstop.
5. Eliminate the bike path connection to Silver Strand. It creates unnecessary security risks and concerns, especially with the main entrance just a short ride away.
6. Modify the dog park configuration to make it more elongated with concealed fencing.
With regard to the various roadway improvements, we support the elimination of the existing cul-de-sac, additional crosswalks, and the proposed tum lane modifications that provide additional parallel parking on the west side of Cays Blvd. We do not support the proposed roundabouts or the additional head-in parking spaces at the north end of the park.
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We also support the proposed sight-line study to minimize the view impact of additional trees and other amenities.
The following are proposed amenities we do not support or have concerns about:
1. Model Boat Pond: Not the best use of limited space available, insect concerns, safety concerns.
2. Sports Field and Park Lighting: Keep it to a minimum safe level and that efforts be made to reduce light trespass and skyglow.
3. Proposed changes to the cul-de-sac/traffic patterns by the fire station and the placement of amenities in close proximity to the fire station should be fully vetted with resident firefighters.
Access issues and impairment of crew rest are a concern.
While we support the continued use of the park for soccer, we would like to see the space developed as a park, not a sports complex. The Board respectfully encourages the City to continue to evaluate and possibly modify the level and type of programmed (active) uses in both Sunset and Tidelands Parks. We recognize and appreciate your exploring this possibility for Tidelands Park with the Port of San Diego earlier this year. As activities and participation levels change over time, we encourage the City and Port to remain flexible and open to change. Modifications to the current use plans/formats could produce a more balanced and equitable sharing of sports activities throughout the City.
In any event, regardless of the final outcome, the Board thanks the City's elected and appointed leadership for their efforts in undertaking this comprehensive planning process. We recognize the time and resources required are significant, not to mention the future cost of implementation. In the end, your efforts should produce a treasured community park, one that further improves a uniquely appealing site and better serves the recreational needs of the City's diverse community. sin ~
Mark Crisson, Board President
cc. City Manager Tina Friend
Mayor Richard Bailey
Council Member Mike Donovan
Council Member Carrie Downey
Council Member John Duncan
Council Member Casey Tanaka
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