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June 7, 2022

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Switzer, Donna
From: Janet Bean <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 12:31 PM
To: [email protected]; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Tuesday June 7th Agenda
I am writing to let you know that as a citizen of HB, I am so disgusted by yet another power grab by this sitting council. • We want a City Attorney that we vote on, not one that you choose as your puppet to do your bidding. The only fair way we can be assured of less corruption, is by a vote of the citizens, not a handful of elected officials who have a clear agenda that is not good for the city.

I am against an appointed city attorney, I am against you having the authority to bring in your own attorney to nullify our elected attorneys position. I am against term limits on the city attorney, that should be up to the voters, if we feel the attorney is not acting in the best interest of the community, it is up to US to decide to not elect him. NOT YOU!! This is clearly a hit job because he is not your puppet.

I also feel that since Kim Carr is aligned with a person the FBI deems as a criminal, she should recuse herself from anything to do with the city until it is proved that she is not involved in such activity.

I also feel that Mike Posey and Dan Kalmick, due to their unethical behavior with OPCA, they as well should be recused from anything to do with the city until it is deemed that their involvement is not as unethical as it appears.

A citizen tired of this power grabbing council,
Janet Bean

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4/7/22
Meeting Date..
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2022 JUN -6 PM 12:47

CITY CLERK

CITY OF

HUNTINGTON BEACH
City Atty. Postion
Dear City Council:

Huntington Beach is the only Orange County city where the city attorney is elected - with all the negatives that entails, and there are many. Not only would there be the obvious considerable cost savings but, hopefully, also a way for the Council to address the City attorney's office arrogance when dealing with mere constituents.

Appointing, rather than electing, a city attorney as well as using ouside counsel would make far more sense.

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Meeting Date:.. 6/7/22
Agenda Mom No: 1(22- 479)
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Switzer, Donna
From: Deni Mac <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 12:21 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL; [email protected]
Subject: written public comment for 6/7/22 city council meeting Dear Mayor Delgleize and Council Members,
As a long time resident of Huntington Beach and daughter of a previous HB Mayor, Don MacAllister, I wish to share that I do not agree with setting a term limit for our City Attorney nor do I agree to have the City Attorney position be appointed by the city council.

As a citizen it is our right to choose and vote for our city clerk, our city treasurer, and our city attorney.

You are very aware of how excellent our current people are in these positions. Our current City Attorney has won numerous cases and fought for the good of our city. Additionally, please do not nullify the current City Attorney position/department by adding language to section 309 to allow you to hire outside attorneys.

Please respect the current city charter and do not make the changes you propose.

Sincerely,
Denise MacAllister, Ed.D.

June 7, 2022

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COMMUNICATION
Meeting Date...... 6/7/22
Aganda Mom No. / (22- 479)
1 Switzer, Donna
From: Denise Kavanaugh < [email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 1:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Charter Revision
Dear City Council Members,
Please do not move forward with a charter amendment that removes our City Attorney, Treasurer, and Clerk positions from Elected to appointed positions. This takes away my vote and say in local government.

Sincerely,
Denise Kavanaugh
Sent from my iPhone

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COMMUNICATION
Meating Date 0/7/22
Aganda lam No.:. 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:42 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: Changing Charter
-----Original Message-----
From: Juli Halopoff <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:33 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: Changing Charter
I would appreciate you explaining to the voters of Huntington Beach why it would be better to let the city council appoint our City Attorney, Clerk, and Treasurer. Please tell me why my vote/opinion is less important than yours. None of you are an expert on running a city. You continue to fail the citizens of HB. Some of you are too old to be running for office (term limits should have age limits) and the rest of you are unqualified. If you try to put this on the ballot in November, rest assured that there will be plenty of opposition.

I sincerely hope that you remember what your actual job is regarding city council duties.

Juli Halopoff
Sent from my iPhone

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COMMUNICATION
Meeting Date:.. 6/7/22
Agenda Item No.: 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:42 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: City Council Meeting - Charter
From: c t <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 1:58 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: City Council Meeting - Charter
I am requesting that you leave our charter alone. I do not support revisions to the charter, especially those involving the city attorney position.

Cynthia Terhune

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COMMUNICATION
Neating Date:. _ 6/7/22
Agenda Item No.: 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:42 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: Keep City Clerk, Attorney, and Treasurer Elected Offices From: Linda Minko <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 1:54 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: Keep City Clerk, Attorney, and Treasurer Elected Offices Dear City Council,
I would like to voice my desire to keep the offices of City Clerk, City Attorney, and City Treasurer as elected offices.

I would like for you to vote for it to be kept this way. I feel that we the residents of Huntington Beach deserve to be able to vote for these offices.

Please vote at the City Council meeting to keep these offices as elected offices.

Thank you,
Peter and Linda Minko
-----Original Message----
From: Linda Minko <[email protected]> SUPPLEMENTAL
To: Linda Minko <[email protected]> COMMUNICATION
Sent: Tue, Jun 7, 2022 1:48 pm
Subject: Fwd: Keep City Clerk, Attorney, and Treasurer Elected Offices Meeting Date: 6/7/22
Aganda lem No: 1(22-479)
Begin forwarded message:

From: Linda Minko <[email protected]>
Subject: Keep City Clerk, Attorney, and Treasurer Elected Offices Date: April 26, 2022 at 8:15:11 AM PDT
To: City. [email protected]
Dear City Council,
I would like to voice my desire to keep the offices of City Clerk, City Attorney, and City Treasurer as elected offices.

I would like for you to vote for it to be kept this way. I feel that we the residents of Huntington Beach deserve to be able to vote for these offices.

Please vote at the City Council meeting to keep these offices as elected offices.

Thank you,
1 Peter and Linda Minko
Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:42 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: Proposed Charter Amendments
----Original Message---
From: Kathey <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 12:29 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: Proposed Charter Amendments
Dear City Council Members:

I have been a home owner and resident of Huntington Beach for over 48 years. During that time we have been very well served by having an elected city attorney, city clerk and city treasurer. There is absolutely NO REASON to change this!!! The City Council already has substantial control over the various officials and committees which govern our city. Each Council member is permitted to appoint a person to various committees/commissions within the city, such planning commission, charter review committee etc.

We, the people, need and want to retain the power to select our city attorney, city clerk, and city treasurer. We do not want term limits on these positions either! When we have a city attorney as successful as Michael Gates has been in representing us and winning funds for the city, why would we want to limit the time of his service??? We also do not support limiting his authority by allowing City Council to hire outside counsel without the consent and oversight of the city attorney!!
Therefore, 1 am opposed to all the proposed revisions to the current city charter. Please do not vote to place them on the ballot, as they are not needed or desired!
Sincerely,
Kathey Haas
Sent from my iPhone

SUPPLEMENTAL

COMMUNICATION
6/7/22
Meeting Date:.

Agenda Item No.: 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:43 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subiect: FW: written public comment for 6/7/22 city council meeting From: Deni Mac <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 12:21 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: written public comment for 6/7/22 city council meeting Dear Mayor Delgleize and Council Members,
As a long time resident of Huntington Beach and daughter of a previous HB Mayor, Don MacAllister, I wish to share that I do not agree with setting a term limit for our City Attorney nor do I agree to have the City Attorney position be appointed by the city council.

As a citizen it is our right to choose and vote for our city clerk, our city treasurer, and our city attorney.

You are very aware of how excellent our current people are in these positions. Our current City Attorney has won numerous cases and fought for the good of our city. Additionally, please do not nullify the current City Attorney position/department by adding language to section 309 to allow you to hire outside attorneys.

Please respect the current city charter and do not make the changes you propose.

Sincerely,
Denise MacAllister, Ed.D.

June 7, 2022

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COMMUNICATION
Meating Date: 6/7/22
Agenda Item No.:. 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:43 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subiect: FW: Huntington Beach City Charter Revision
From: Sue Jervik <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 10:59 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: Huntington Beach City Charter Revision
To all members of the Huntington Beach City Council,
I oppose suggested changes to Charter Amendments to eliminate elected city attorney, elected clerk and elected treasurer. The citizens of Huntington Beach must be allowed to vote on these positions. These positions should Regards,
Susan Jervik
Huntington Beach Resident
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COMMUNICATION
Meeting Date: 6/7/22
Agenda Item No.... 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:45 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: Oppose changing our City Charter
From: Deb Janus <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 10:32 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL < [email protected]>
Subject: Oppose changing our City Charter
Council,
I oppose changing our City Charter and I oppose changing the position of City Secretary, City Treasurer and City Attorney to an appointed position.

Please do not move forward with this .

Deborah Janus
Huntington Beach 92646
714.330.4152 mobile

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CONMUNICATION
Meeting Date:.. 6/7/22
1(22-479)
Agenda Item No.:..
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:46 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: Our right to elect city attorney.

From: David Parikh <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 20229:49 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: Our right to elect city attorney.

I think it would be better to continue electing our City Attorney so that he/she is accountable to the voters. Please don't take away our rights to choose our city's leaders.

Thanks
--David Parikh
David Parikh
16835 Algonquin St., 283
Huntington Beach, CA 92649

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COMMUNICATION
Meeting Date:.. 6/7/22
Aganda Item No.:. 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:46 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: Stop Trying to Change the Charter
From: jjreed85 < [email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 9:32 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL < [email protected]>
Subject: Stop Trying to Change the Charter
and one of you is not even elected by the people of this city, and therefore you all have no business making decisions for us.

Our City Attorney is one of the BEST. The position already has 'term limits', it is called an ELECTION, where WE the people of this city determine if he or she still has our confidence or not (something you don't have). The City Attorney should also be the only one to determine if THEY need outside council assistance.

The City Clerk, Treasurer and Attorney should ALL be elected positions. These types of positions are elected within the state and counties, it should not be any different in our city. It keeps checks and balances within the city as these positions remain employees of, and keep the best interests of, the RESIDENTS... preventing them from allowing you to make poor decisions like you have been.

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COMMUNICATION
Meeting Date:.. 6/7/22
Agenda Item No.:_ 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:46 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: City Charter Election!
From: sharon virtue <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 9:13 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: City Charter Election!
Good Morning,
I would like to comment on the item up for discussion today regarding our city charter and voting on city offices. In my opinion as a resident of Huntington Beach for over 40 years it would be an immense mistake to change the charter and take away the rights of the citizens of Huntington Beach to vote on whom they would like to have as their city attorney. Why all of a sudden should it be up to the city council to make that decision? Why the change? Keep our charter as it is and quit trying to change the will of the citizens of this town. Additionally, I think Michael Gates has done an outstanding job representing this city!
Regards,
Sharon Virtue

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COMMUNICATION
Meeting Date:.. 6/7/22
Agondallam No.i. / (22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:46 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subiect: FW: Elected x appointed positions
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 8:14 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: Fwd: Elected x appointed positions
Hello City Council members,
I am writing to you today to say that I find it ridiculous that you are proposing to change our charter to make the positions of City Treasurer, City Clerk and City Attorney all appointed by the council. Specially the City Attorney who is there to protect the interest of the citizens and not the interest of the council. These positions should remain as elected positions to be voted by the citizens of HB. It is bad enough that the Planning and Financial commissions are not elected positions.

You should be focusing on fighting the rampage crime and homeless problems we have instead of changing out charter to fit your ideologies.

Best regards,
Christina Silva-Salgado
7652 Ontario Drive HB 92648
(714) 307-7101

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COMMUNICATION
Mesting Date:. 6/7/22
Agenda Item No... 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Tikes at tune 7, 022 247 PM
Sent:

To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: Michael Gates, City Atty
From: Sherry Kennedy <dksmrs5 @yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 4:36 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: Michael Gates, City Atty
Let the people of HB to elect our own HB city attorney.

Anyone appointed by city council only serves you & your developers, in my opinion, & not the people of HB.

Michael Gates just won our city a $5 MILLION settlement for our city! He's the person for the job.

LET THE VOTERS DECIDE!!!
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COMMUNICATION
Mesting Date:™ 6/7/22
Agenda Item No.: 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:47 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: City Attorney
From: Carol Pilgrim <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 4:25 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: City Attorney
As a long time resident, I am incensed at your attempt to remove my voice as a voter. The taxpayers should have the ability to determine who we will be paying to represent our city.

Carol Pilgrim
10392 Samoa Dr, Huntington Beach, Ca 92646

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COMMUNICATION
Meating Da... 6/7/22
Agenda Item No.:. 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:47 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: City Attorney
----Original Message-.

From: RICHARD HART <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 2:39 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL <city. [email protected]>
Subject: City Attorney
Keep the City Attorney an elected position. A majority of this current Council cannot be trusted to vote in other than their own self interest. Vote in the public interest and keep the City Attorney an elected position.

Even though some council members may be leaving this year how they vote on this item will follow them. I'll will definitely be keeping score on how each of you vote.

Richard Hart
5842 Raphael Dr
Huntington Beach 92649
Sent from my iPhone

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COMMUNICATION
6/7/22
Meeting Date:

Agenda Item No.: 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:47 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: Proposal to Take Away Voting Rights
----Original Message--.

From: Ginny <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 10:46 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: Proposal to Take Away Voting Rights
As a long time resident of Huntington Beach, I want to continue to vote for the Huntington Beach City Attorney, Treasurer, and City Clerk. I do not want the City Council to appoint these positions for me or the other residents of Huntington Beach. I am against the planned revision to the City Charter that would change the elected City Attorney, Treasurer, and City Clerk positions to positions appointed by the City Council. The proposal to take away voting rights the people of Huntington Beach have had for decades is not right. We the people want to be involved as much as possible in the functioning of our city. The people need more rights not less. Leave the Charter as is.

Virginia Crawford,
Involved Citizen
Sent from my iPad

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COMMUNICATION
Meeting Date: 6/7/22
Agenda item No.:.. 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:47 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: Changes to City Charter
From: Kirk Crawford <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 10:21 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: Changes to City Charter
I am against the planned revision to the City Charter that would change the elected City Attorney, Treasurer, and Clerk positions to positions appointed by the City Council. As a long time resident of Huntington Beach I want to continue to have input on these 3 positions via popular vote.

The proposal to take away voting rights we in this city have had for decades is not right. We the people want to be involved as much as possible in the functioning of our City. The people need more rights not less. Leave the Charter as is.

Kirk Crawford

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COMMUNICATION
Meeting Da*..... 6/7/22
Agenda Item No.:.. 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:49 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: Voting rights
From: J&J RADZAI <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 10:11 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: Voting rights
Please do not take away our right to vote for city officers, e.g. City Attorney Jack & Jo Ann Radzai
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COMMUNICATION
Meeting Date:.. 6/7/22
Agenda Itom No.:. 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:49 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: City Attorney
From: John Kells <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 9:33 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL < [email protected]>
Subject: City Attorney
Why are you proposing to change our City's charter? Please explain this to me.

This very much sounds like a power play. Please convince me it's not.

Thank you
John M. Kells-VP
J]] Floor Covering, Inc.
4831-A Passons Blvd
Pico Rivera, CA 90660
Ph: (562)692-9008 Ext. 123
Fax: (562)692-5979

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COMMUNICATION
Meeting Date:.. 4/7/22
Agenda Item No.:. 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:49 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: Election
From: Laurie Virtue <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 9:30 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL <city. [email protected]>
Subject: Election
Good Morning,
I would like to comment on the item up for a vote regarding our city charter and voting on city offices. In my opinion as a resident of Huntington Beach for over 40 years it would be an immense mistake to change the charter and take away the rights of the citizens of Huntington Beach to vote on whom they would like to have as their city attorney. Why all of a sudden should it be up to the city council to make that decision? Why the change? Keep our charter as it is and quit trying to change the will of the citizens of this town. Additionally, I think Michael Gates has done an outstanding job representing this city! Regards
Laurie Virtue

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COMMUNICATION
Meeting Date:. 6/7/22
Agenda Item No.: 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:49 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: City Attorney
----Original Message-.

From: Kevin Anderson <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 8:54 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: City Attorney
Let the people of Huntington Beach(the people you serve) elect their own City Attorney.

Anyone you appoint, only serves you and your developer donors- not us.

Michael Gates just won a $5 million plus settlement for the city, which I'm sure you will all waste on pet projects.

Let the voters decide!!!!
Sent from my iPhone

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COMMUNICATION
Meeting Date:.. 4/7/22
Agenda Item No.: 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:51 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: Huntington Beach Charter Review/Recommendations - Absolutely Opposed! From: Ted Ross <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 11:13 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL < [email protected]>
Subject: Huntington Beach Charter Review/Recommendations - Absolutely Opposed! Huntington Beach City Council...
• I absolutely oppose any changes to the city charter that take your right to vote for the City Attorney, Clerk and Treasurer • Having an independent City Attorney, Clerk and Treasurer ensures that we have a check on the power of the city Council.
• I want our city attorney to continue successfully defending the city against lawsuits and the over reach of Gavin Newsom and the state of California
• The City Attorney has recently recovered over $5 million owed to the city by the state and will possibly get another $20 million in addition
Leave our City Charter as written!
Sent from my iPhone.........Ted Ross

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COMMUNICATION
Meeting Date: 6/7/22
Agenda Item No.: 1(22-479)
1 Estanislau, Robin
From: Fikes, Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:51 PM
To: Agenda Alerts
Subject: FW: Reorganization of staff
From: Jon Koskoff <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 9:51 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL <[email protected]>
Subject: Reorganization of staff
Clearly the controversial reorganization you are proposing and the elimination of our city attorney is of huge concern.

It appears on the surface to be an action made out fear rather than one of Thoughtful dialogue.

Nhy are vou afraid
Please grant, say
a 60 to 90 day extension on these proposals. We need you all to step up to insure that your proposal is being made in the light of day.

Thank you
Jon Koskoff
[email protected]
Huntington Beach resident since 1980
714-514-3230
20831 Hunter Lane

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