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October 23, 2025, DRB Meeting, Item 5.7 (31565 Eagle Rock Way) Chair Gibbs:
Yeah, there was just a few details. I'm glad we worked it out tonight.
Now, the next project is 5.7 at 31565 Eagle Rock Way Design Review 25-0407. Coastal Development Permit 25-0408. Applicant, please come up. And ex parte.
Imer Bauta:
I visited site. I spoke with the applicant and visited with the two neighbors to the east.
Jessica Gannon:
I had a site visit with John Craig. I spoke with Steve Kortani, met with Ken Schneider.
Chair Gibbs:
And I had a site inspection with John Craig. I met with Melinda Wren and Ken Schneider, who are neighbors. And I also talked to Steve Karakami by telephone. With thatLouis Weil:
Wait, I got to go. I spoke with Ken, Steve Kortani, Melinda, and met with John from the applicant team.
Visited the site.
Chair Gibbs:
All right.
Louis Weil:
Didn't we get something from Larry?
Chair Gibbs:
We did get a Larry. Wait a minute. I spoke to Larry, too. I forgot I spoke to him.
Imer Bauta:
I spoke to Larry and I spoke with Steve, as well.
Chair Gibbs:
Yeah.
Jessica Gannon:
Was Larry? I did speak with Larry. I don't remember for which project, though.
Louis Weil:
He's out of town so we [inaudible 00:01:30].
Chair Gibbs:
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Yeah, it was quick. He's back east.
Jessica Gannon:
Yeah. I spoke with Larry Noakes, as well.
Louis Weil:
Can't forget him.
Chair Gibbs:
Can't forget him. All right. Heather, are you ready for this one? Oh, yeah. Let her take the time. That was ...
Heather:
Thank you very much. So item 5.7 is located at 31565 Eagle Rock Way near the intersection of Monterey Street. The project site is relatively flat and is vacant except for an existing 330 square foot storage building, some paved walkways, landscaping, and fencing. There's no development permits on record for this property, so it's unclear when the storage building was constructed. It's located right along the property line and will be demolished. The applicant is requesting design review to construct a new 2,976.7 square foot two story single family dwelling with an attached two car garage, 465 square feet of elevated deck, grading, pool, spa, landscaping, hardscape, new vehicular access, and public street and sidewalk improvements in the village community zone. The proposed detached 297 square foot accessory dwelling unit does not require design review. However, it does require a coastal development permit.
As viewed from the street, the upper level at the front elevation is stepped back from the ground level garage. On the south side, the walls of the garage and the lower level are offset from the wider upper level to create articulation. As viewed from the street, the upper level at the front elevation is stepped back from the ground level garage.
On the south side, the walls of the garage and the lower level are offset from the wider upper levels.
Sorry, just said that again. Sorry. The exterior materials will differ on the upper and lower levels to provide interest and minimize the appearance of mass. The living area on the upper level is located toward the front of the structure with a flat roof over the rear area to maintain a lower profile. A 464 elevated deck with glass railings will be accessed from the main bedroom at the rear of the upper level.
The rear portion of the structure will have a flat roof which will extend over to the 297 square foot ADU and the area between the structures, the roofed area will create a 414 square foot covered patio at the rear. Access will be provided from Eagle Rock Way to the attached garage and a four-foot-high gate is proposed across the driveway at the front property line.
Proposed landscaping will include a mix of ground cover, shrubs, vines, and trees. Three trees are proposed at the site, including two redbud trees, one on each side of the driveway, and one strawberry tree in the planter by the pool. All trees will have a mature height of 15 feet. A large pine tree in the public right of way will be removed to accommodate the proposed driveway. The pool and spa is 293 square feet and is proposed in the rear area and required pool fencing and self-latching gates will be installed.
In May of this year, the applicant installed staking poles for a different two-story dwelling design shown at the top of the slide. The proposed lower level garage is shown with the blue hash lines. The area in 197
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red hash lines indicates the previous upper level area and the previous elevated deck and terrace extended over most of the flat roof.
It was approximately 790 square feet and is highlighted in yellow with planters shown highlighted in green. And there was a stairway to access the deck and terraced from the backyard. Based on the concerns raised by neighbors, based on the staking and regarding view equity and the size of the proposed deck, the applicant chose to redesign the project as shown on the bottom slide. The upper level was shifted towards the street by approximately eight feet as shown in the red hash lines. A portion of the upper level roof was changed from pitch to flat, and the current deck and terrace has been reduced by relocating the deck railing and the stairway access to the deck has been eliminated.
These modifications have reduced view impacts for the property to the north.
Staff received two letters from neighbors expressing concern related to the mass and scale of the proposed structure, the building height, neighborhood compatibility, and view equity.
If the board finds the project meets all design criteria and required findings, staff recommends the board adopt Resolution 25-0407, approving Design Review 25-0407 and Coastal Development Permit 25-0408, and findings said action categorically exempt pursuant to CEQA Guidelines 15303. This concludes a presentation and I'm available for those questions.
Chair Gibbs:
Thank you, Heather. Good presentation. Any questions? All right. Open the public hearing. Stan, you have five minutes.
Stan Andrade:
Thank you. Hello, everyone. I am Stan Andrade, the architect for the project. Thank you, Heather, for all that she's done. She's been very supportive and helpful through the process. As she stated, we did have an original design. We needed to start somewhere and we started with a placeholder that we thought we'd like to see. So we did the design, we did the staking just as a process really recommends. Went to see the project staked from the viewpoint of the neighbors and recognized right away that there was challenges, serious challenges. So we went back to the drawing board, did, as Heather suggested, several items to modify the plan to try to help the circumstance. We restaked it, went again out to see the neighbors, and I can see it was a great improvement, but I could see that there's still challenges.
So I'm here to tell you tonight, I'm not here to defend what we have. I'm here to get feedback. I figured it was time to come here because we had actually put it off the project for many months to do this redesign initially. Thought it would make sense to come here, get a first response from you so I could get the pulse of where you were thinking. So I'm looking forward to some great comments tonight. We know there's work to be done. We understand that there's still issues with all the major elements, mass and scale, view equity, all the elements that need to be addressed. And so we're just looking forward to all your comments tonight so we can have some clear direction, go back to the drawing board, come back next year and hopefully have a project that is approval.
And I would say to the neighbors, I really am trying to find that right place. I've seen your letters, I'm sure the board is in your letters. I think the most effective thing that can happen tonight with everyone's time is to just let the board comment to me what they really feel so that I can really get to work on this.
And so please know that I'm really trying to work this out. And so with that, that's all I have to say and I'm looking forward to the comments.
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Stan, I appreciate your comments. Now I open up the members of the public who wish to speak. You will each have three minutes. How many people are going to speak? Louis Weil:
Come on up.
Chair Gibbs:
Come on up.
Louis Weil:
Ken.
Ken Schneider:
Stan, appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. My name's Ken Schneider. I live at 315651 Eagle Rock Way, a couple houses up. And just give you my... I want to take my three minutes of time here.
First of all, I encourage you all to vote no on it, obviously, because of some major things that have to be done. A quick timeline, just to reiterate, I know you guys got my letters, you came out. Thank you very much for seeing with your own eyes. It was good. It all started before Stan. When, like the Wizard of Oz, one day I got a call and they were dropping a small house into the back of the property. I talked to Nicole Bovey, she goes, "That's not good. Put a stop order on it." They were doing landscaping fences just to set the pattern that it was not going good for about a year.
When I found out from Nicole that she goes, "Hold on, it'll be a moot point after a year. They're going to be a plan to put the place in a building thing." So Eric, I think your assistant, nice kid, came out. We went through the stuff. Our neighbors all looked at it and said, "Look, here's the ocean, here's the horizon, here's where we live, a lot of green stuff, everything's good." He goes, "I appreciate it. I appreciate it." So that all happened to get us to today. When the staking went up and the mass of the property covering the whole yard, the ADU, a pool, all glass, modern, doesn't even fit into the street with the trees. It was like a kick in the gut. I expected a plan, but nothing, nothing of this mass.
So then I started looking at the staking posts, which you saw, which I know you guys see a lot of properties. So in 15 seconds, I'll show you what I did. This was the view. This is the view with the staking poles from our bedroom. You can see where the lines go. Not only blocks the ocean, it blocks part of the horizon and the sky, all different levels. It's crazy. I have another livable unit right off the kitchen. You look out, same thing. Forget the ocean, no sky. I'll leave these with you. This is from our, the kitchen, which is part of the living area. Same thing, massive, massive height. And then the one part where Stan moved it over a little bit, I'm saying it's still probably a 75% blockage here. So I'm going to tell you that it's as bad as I could imagine.
If you look at A202 on the plans, there's also five or six windows that can look directly into our living spaces. 203 on the other side is all glass. That's crazy. I repeat, no blue water, partial sky. Stan said he's a professional. I know he is. He said he's done hundreds of the units. I think he can figure out how to do this.
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Ken Schneider:
This is what I'll never see again.
Chair Gibbs:
Okay.
Ken Schneider:
Thank you.
Chair Gibbs:
Thank you. Any other speakers?
Imer Bauta:
Thanks for bringing in the photos.
Ken Schneider:
You want me to leave them? I know you took them.
Imer Bauta:
You can leave them on the desk if you want.
Ken Schneider:
Can I get them back?
Imer Bauta:
Oh, you can take them tonight.
Chair Gibbs:
No, take them tonight. We're not going to look at them after tonight. And we've seen the pictures, I think.
Ken Schneider:
I know. Thank you, though. I'll use them for the adjustment, how we move.
Chair Gibbs:
All right. Who's the...
Melinda Wren:
[inaudible 00:13:05] for the stand. These guys have all seen me. From my house. Thank you for coming out, by the way. So I'll start with this. The agenda of the design review board is to maintain the village atmosphere in the city. I looked it up, it's on the website. I'm here tonight to urge you all to vote no on this design in this neighborhood. The proposed project is on a 35-foot wide lot sandwiched between two single story homes. These particular homes have been owner occupied for over 35 years. Not only will I 200
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lose my ocean and Catalina views when the trees are trimmed, the height of this planned monstrosity is such that I am unable to see the sky or palm trees from my inside windows. You guys saw that in my bedroom, correct? At my desk. Can you acknowledge that you can't see the sky out my windows? Chair Gibbs:
Again, this is your time.
Melinda Wren:
Thank you.
Chair Gibbs:
We're not going to answer questions, though.
Melinda Wren:
Developer of this lot will profit at the expense of us longtime owners who will see millions of dollars of decreased value in our properties. Many people have questions and comments about the story poles, but I am shocked by one of them saying, and I will tell you that I learned this term from tonight when they said, "Your house is going to mold." Mold. And now I realize it's from lack of lighting, right? Because it's 25 feet high up against a single story house. I believe I have proven this proposed design will not maintain the village atmosphere in our beloved city. Anything other than a no vote on this design in this neighborhood would it be an egregious error? I urge each and every one of you to vote no on this design.
Chair Gibbs:
Thank you very much. If you could take your pictures, photos now. They're very good quality, by the way. All the big photos are very good quality.
Melinda Wren:
I didn't realize all of you guys have come out. I appreciate you coming.
Chair Gibbs:
Okay. No, thank you. Next speaker.
Anne Klokow:
Hi, I'm Anne Klokow. I'm at 31573 Eagle Rock, which is south of the property right next door. So we share the same property line andChair Gibbs:
I think I know you.
Anne Klokow:
You think?
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I think so.
Anne Klokow:
What a ridiculous coincidence.
Chair Gibbs:
It's been a while. How are you? Okay, go ahead.
Anne Klokow:
We worked at the same law firm.
Chair Gibbs:
And we were, yeah.
Anne Klokow:
And I was like, no. I am. Anyway. Okay. So my notes, because I got three minutes, right? Chair Gibbs:
Start three minutes before the distraction, because I think she looked up and was distracted. So start the three minutes over again.
Anne Klokow:
So anyway, I lived in my house for 36 years. I raised both my kids, went through Laguna Beach High School and I'm wasting so much of my time, but I really want to thank the community. We love Laguna. I mean, I want to cry because of what's going to happen to my home. But I'm telling you, both my kids graduated from UCLA and my youngest just graduated from Berkeley Law School. God help her. And so, Laguna Beach has excellent school systems. We've loved living here, and maybe my time's just over. I don't know.
But now to the point, is privacy is mine for the biggest part. So I have a 10,000 square foot piece of property and a small 1950s home that I love that has windows and French doors all over the place. And this building is going 25 feet right next to my property with glass windows all the way across. And it's higher than my property, so it even feels more looming. So I guess my question is, I know something's going to get built there, but like when you guys are worrying about these lights on the land, what do you think my backyard's going to look like with the whole wall of lights on all night? Right now, I have palm trees, the canyon view, and the sky, and two German shepherds. And that's what we do.
I feel I don't want to be against development. I actually finance for construction loans, so I know a lot.
But I also know about privacy and my neighbors who are going to be suffocated by this giant place.
Anyway, I got to move to ... And this new deck that's going to be, I think pretty much they'll be living with me because it's four feet from my ... I think it's within the setback too because as the staff report said and was reiterated tonight, the property line is this demo building that's going to be demolished, which, by the way, has been there since 1989 when I moved in. I think it was there when ... You know that was all one property, right? All of that property was one. Mine was the cottage, guest cottage, the Spanish place. Anyway, so that's why it's weird.
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And there's weird buildings just randomly placed on my property line. But now the architect says that's not the property line. It's one foot in on my property, which would mean removing 36 years of trees, palm trees, ficus trees, would all be gone. So where is the property line? That would just be the ... Can we figure that out so I can find out am I going to lose every bit of privacy, even all my growth that's got to be my trees, my palm trees? That thing is probably like 700 years old.
Chair Gibbs:
Anne, your time's up, butAnne Klokow:
And then we can worry about non-cooperation [inaudible 00:19:10] and the lies that were told to us.
Chair Gibbs:
You're done, but I have a question for you.
Anne Klokow:
Okay.
Chair Gibbs:
I'm looking at the site or the aerial. What parcel is yours? Anne Klokow:
To the left. To the left.
Chair Gibbs:
So is this parcel? The long one?
Anne Klokow:
Mm-hmm.
Chair Gibbs:
Okay.
Anne Klokow:
The long one.
Chair Gibbs:
Your one just closer to the beach.
Anne Klokow:
Correct.
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Okay. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Any other comments? Seeing none, it goes back to you.
Stan, you got three minutes.
Stan Andrade:
Thank you. Anne, I hope it wasn't me you were referring to with lies. I hope that no one thinks I've been lying to you. Okay. I'm really trying to do the best I can in the position I'm in.
Anne Klokow:
Sorry.
Stan Andrade:
So it's okay. So IChair Gibbs:
Let's keep it to us, please.
Stan Andrade:
Yeah. I'm totally sympathetic to everything, everything everyone's saying. Again, as I said earlier, I just looking forward to some great comment. To that end, though, I would ask a couple things in the sense of comment. I totally get that every element needs to be addressed and we're going to do that. Just so you know, with the civil engineer, we've done everything we can to get the ground level as low as possible. There's a cross fall. Super difficult to even make the driveway work the way it is. So getting lower in the ground is going to be tough. We have nine-foot plates, three foot, 12 pitch. I don't know how much lower we can get in that regard. I recognize already we need to move, eliminate program, move towards the street as much as possible. Definitely want to help with the view and the view equity, but I'm not sure we can get all of it. The master bedroom's way to the front of his property. So unless we have no two story, I just don't know if we can achieve that, but we'll try, obviously. So that was that.
The master terrace. That's like a nothing thing. They could have zero master terrace. That's not really an objective to this project. I was just trying to cover the roof of the program below, but that could be low roof, just flat roof there. The real outdoor entertaining area is the actual terrace, the ground level, not the terrace elevated below. So just know that that's something that can even go away completely if we needed to.
Glazing, I get it. The design style, I'm trying to not just do a cottage. I hope you can appreciate it's not trying to be too contemporary, too edgy, but just trying to find something that has some design sense to it other than a typical cottage. We can design a cottage. We can put wood siding and make it look real cottagey. But I thought maybe something a little more creative might work, but hey, we'll hear what you have to say on that, as well.
And yeah, that's about it. So I've got a pen. I got paper. I'm ready. Lay it on me, what you got.
Chair Gibbs:
Any questions?
Jessica Gannon:
I have a question.
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Chair Gibbs:
Go ahead.
Jessica Gannon:
So the windows above the garage, are those windows coverings? So those are permanent? Chair Gibbs:
Yeah. So that's a design element. We've used it in another project. It really came out great. It's actually glazing behind, but it's a tight grate. They're two and a half inches in between and it's a fixed grate. So you can't evenJessica Gannon:
What's [inaudible 00:22:34]-
Chair Gibbs:
You can barely see out of them.
Louis Weil:
It's coarse architectural groove that sits in front of them.
Jessica Gannon:
Jewelry. Yes. I like that.
Stan Andrade:
Yeah. You can call it that. I don't call it that, but ultimately it's a screen and yeah, that's what I'm envisioning there. The glazing that comes down the other side, it's a lot of it. I get it. It was just an idea, if you look at the renderings, to try to get something creative there. But if that's got to go, we'll figure it out.
Chair Gibbs:
Any other questions? Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing and I'm going to start on this one. My comments are going to be rather brief, but feel free to everyone to elaborate.
Jessica Gannon:
You brief?
Chair Gibbs:
Yeah. You're going to be shocked, I think. This is a really challenging piece of property. I didn't look at Anne Klokow's property. And this again goes out. If you want us to see it, you need to make a request so we can come by and see the impact. So it's difficult for us, but we did see the impact from Melinda Wren's and Ken Schneider's.
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story house. In fact, Ken Schneider's house is two story and there's plenty of others. So we get this a lot to Anne Klokow and Melinda Wren. Single story homes in two story neighborhoods, it's tough.
Neighborhoods change and it's regrettably because I love ... I live in North Laguna and two stories are going in there and there's a lot of one story beach cottages. So we have to look at neighborhood compatibility. We can't just say, "Okay, here's a house next to two single story houses on either side.
Therefore, notwithstanding other houses in the neighborhood have two story, this one can't." So I think the mass in scale is way out of whack, but when you come back, a second story is perfectly acceptable, but it needs to be substantially scaled back.
The mass on the second story exacerbates the other problems. So the big problems are privacy for Melinda Wren and view equity for Mr. Schneider. There's view equity considerations for Wren, too, but she doesn't have a view of the ocean. So that's why I kind of look more view equity. Privacy, which I include light and air, you really need to open up her house. It's just not fair to totally block out her house and a big portion of her yard. That said, there's going to be a second story. I would push the program toward the street. That's what I would do. But I really think it's important, Stan, that I know you had some neighborhood discussion, but to what you ... And I'll be candid, what you put up would have given me a very bad taste in my mouth if I was Melinda Wren because you totally blocked out her property making it, and I respect you for it, come in and say, "I realize I got to change this in a major league way." And it's your complaints, Melinda, and it's your complaints, Anne and Ken, that led to those first comments. So I take them in good faith, but I really want you to work with the three neighbors. I know Anne, long time I've known her, when did we meet? In the early 90s for pizza? Very reasonable.
Everyone's reasonable here. I've talked to both Ken, I think they're in a state of shock. But you guys have to understand, I'll get to your view equity in a second. There's going to be impact on your light and air and privacy because he's entitled to a second story. View equity. It virtually takes all of his ocean view away from numerous ceremonial rooms.
The same time, it's view equity. It's not view preservation, which means his second story is going to impact your views because there's no other way to do it. But what's done is we look for equity. So what we want is balance, balance on privacy, balance on view equity. In that connection, windows facing ...
Anne, I didn't know that your project was as much as issue as Melinda, but you've got a real challenge with windows, with Melinda, because they look right into her, particularly the second story.
It's an easy lot to develop if you're only going to do a single story. If you go to two stories, you've got some serious view equity, privacy, light and air and windows. I think you can do it, but I think the best way to do it is to sit down and work with the neighbors. And neighbors, you need to understand there's going to be a second story there. So it's better to compromise with Stan. Stan, it's better to compromise with neighbors rather than having us decide.
So those are my comments. I have a great deal of confidence that you guys should be able to do it. We worked with Stan. He's reasonable. You guys come up with a compromise that's not going to make anyone happy, but everyone can live with. Those are my comments. Louis? Imer Bauta:
Thank you, Chair. I agree with your comments. I think you hit it on the head. I think there is a balance that needs to be had on both the view equity, but also the rights to build. I think, Stan, you got pretty clear marching orders on that. I would look to a substantial reduction on the upper half of the second level that would probably brighten it up quite a bit, and also moving the program a bit to the south. 206
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I think the reduction in windows square footage is called for. I think there's a lot of windows on that ocean facing side. If there's a way to reduce it while also preserving some privacy, I think that'll go a long way for the neighbor toward the west. Other than that, I agree with you, Board.
Jessica Gannon:
I can go next, unless you want to go.
Imer Bauta:
Go for it.
Jessica Gannon:
So there was an application. I'm not going to say this is how you should design it, but one thing to consider, there was an application that came before us earlier today where they separated the mass, so it gave a neighbor a view down the middle. So I would look into considering putting the pool further back and maybe rotating the pool so you can get programmed down below for your first story and then minimize the second story.
As far as view equity, I think you've done a great job. I didn't get to see the first rendering except for what was presented in the emails, but considering the current application from my point of view, when I was in Ken's house, his primary living space and primary deck and the future deck that he's going to have maintains a full view of the ocean.
As far as the bedroom goes, there's trees right now that are there that are going to be removed and there's going to be a building there. I don't know that bringing the upper level program to the street side will mitigate the light and air situation or improve Ken's view. I like the articulation. If you bring that upper level forward, it's going to be heavy overload for the street. So I don't agree with moving the program forward. I think you have great articulation from the street. And the fact that you have the window coverings, the permanent window coverings, it protects the ... I think the glazing is fine there.
And then for the south elevation, yeah, the upper level, that's just way too much glass that's facing a buildable lot. It's easy to say that after Anne sells the property or the next owner is going to develop that lot, as well.
So to mitigate future privacy concerns, get rid of the glazing, minimize the glazing. Privacy. Yeah.
Oh, the back bedroom. So the upper level for the north elevation. That back window looks directly into Ken's bedroom, master bedroom. So if you can minimize that, similar to what the window is to the left, where it's like that landscape style window. As far as massing, the appearance of massing, I think it can be corrected if you just add a little bit more material change, similar to what you have for the front portion of the upper level. And then let's see.
Yeah, so for the neighbor to the right, what elevation is that? The south elevation. It's a single story home and you have a lot of distance between your proposal and her house. I think it's enough. It's adequate. I don't know how else you can minimize that upper level because it's already indented in. The upper level's already indented to the left. I don't know how you would mitigate that other than creating somewhat of a U-turn or a U-shaped property where you have the entire ... Most of the lot, but keeping to the lot coverage equation and then creating two upper levels where maybe you have a popup at the street and then a pop-up in the back. I would maybe consider that. But as far as light and air for that neighbor, her house is so far the distance wise, I think that it's fine from my point of view.
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Jess, I would add that you probably convinced me not to bring the front of the home forward on the second level, so I would stick with that. And those were my comments.
Chair Gibbs:
Louis?
Louis Weil:
Yeah. Stan, I appreciate your comments. For those that don't know Stan, he's been a very good problem solving architect over the years that I've known him and seen his projects. And so when he's saying he knows it's lots challenged, he means it. And the one thing that I would say is I would encourage you to invite him into your home. Let him come see your windows. Let him come see, work with him to help him see these things a little bit more directly.
I am sharing my photos that I took to staff, so they'll be in the files. As anything I do is public record anyway, but specifically, I sent them to Heather.
I think the front look of the house is very creative, but the creativity stops and it gets a little bland as it carries on. I think you've heard a bunch from my colleagues and I agree with them. I really want to open up the creativity on this one. A second floor can be there. I like the idea of the multi-pop-up that we just saw from Lee Bell on a different one. Maybe orientation of the pool could be in different spots. I think shifting, and even though it is a narrow lot, trying to find some articulation as you move through the length of the lot, I think could help the overall program, and where the popups are a little more specific and maybe some angles that work. Just plopping a big deck is probably not going to work. I don't mind the covered spaces, as I think that adds to privacy in the right spots.
So there are some really good elements in your program. I just think you probably need to restart and go for some more creativity on how this really solves. But I'm open, is what I'm trying to convey, to see what you can really come up with because I think a beautiful balanced home could be achieved by you and for this neighborhood. It's challenging because the neighborhood is an older stretch. A lot of single level homes or even this vacant lot that's been left alone for so long. I'm not married to cottage, but I think there does need to be some sensitivity to the shape and the characteristics that come to light to create these balances of view, light, and air, and overall mass for the program.
I'm glad you didn't bring us the first program and you pulled that back, but I think this was just a pullback from what was a good concept originally, but I think a fresh concept really could be admired by the board and by the neighborhood. So I encourage everyone to just work together. Usually that drives the best outcome, and thanks for sitting here and putting the first post in the ground.
Stan Andrade:
Not a problem. And by the way, the neighbors have been great. They've invited me into their home and so forth.
Chair Gibbs:
Okay.
Louis Weil:
Good.
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Chair Gibbs:
First of all, any other comments? All right. I'm going to conclude, unless of course somebody wants to comment on what I said. Normally what I do is I summarize where the consensus is, but I'm not going to do that here. I echo what Louis just said. You know the concerns we have. I think there is common concerns, too much mass and scale impacts on light and air and concern over view equity, maybe there's some disagreement on the board, but it requires a lot more thought into coming up with a concept that works here. And I think works means including working with neighbors. That doesn't mean neighbors you get to veto, but there is a house, a really cool house to be built here.
I think the key element is reducing the upper level, coming up with something creative. You can go more program in the lower level. We talked about moving the pool, switching it. I would focus on those things and hopefully you can come together with a good project that everyone can get behind and we can get approved.
Stan Andrade:
That's the goal.
Chair Gibbs:
Okay. How much time do you need on the continuous?
Stan Andrade:
A bunch. I think somethingChair Gibbs:
You want us to table it to be just to continue it to a date uncertain? Stan Andrade:
Actually, I thought about this based on a calendar situation I have. It's a personal thing, but March? Chair Gibbs:
We can go that far out.
Stan Andrade:
Is there a date in March?
Chair Gibbs:
I have no problem. Bill, you want to give us a date?
Stan Andrade:
I'd rather set a date and that would be great. I don't know what meetings you have in March, but ...
Bill Rodrugues:
March, we're looking at the 12th or the 26th.
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Chair Gibbs:
I'm really busy on the 13th and not the 12th.
Stan Andrade:
12th's my birthday, so I'll take the 26th.
Louis Weil:
You don't want to celebrate with us? I'll bring a party jacket.
Stan Andrade:
I'll probably have something else going on, but no. March 26th is great. That's plenty of time. We get through the holidays and...
Speaker 8:
[inaudible 00:38:27] is my birthday.
Louis Weil:
All right. We'll bring the party jacket.
Speaker 8:
I'll be here.
Chair Gibbs:
All right. So good luck to you. Good luck to everybody.
Louis Weil:
Are we set, then? March 26th?
Bill Rodrugues:
Hold on. What the hell are we [inaudible 00:38:39]-
Louis Weil:
Hang on, hang on, Chair, we need a motion and second to vote.
Bill Rodrugues:
I'll move item numberChair Gibbs:
What are you saying? Hold on a second.
Bill Rodrugues:
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Jessica Gannon:
I'll second that.
Stan Andrade:
I'm sorry. Is there a change of the board coming?
Louis Weil:
Not until April.
Chair Gibbs:
Not until April.
Stan Andrade:
Okay, great. Because I'd love to see you all.
Chair Gibbs:
Perfect. March 26th will be the last meeting of this board.
Stan Andrade:
Okay, perfect. That'll be great. Thank you.
Chair Gibbs:
Call the roll.
Heather:
Member Bouta?
Imer Bauta:
Yes.
Heather:
Board member Weil?
Louis Weil:
Yes.
Heather:
Chair Pro Tem Gannon?
Jessica Gannon:
Yes.
Heather:
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Chair Gibbs.
Chair Gibbs:
Yes.
Heather:
Motion passes 4-0.
Bill Rodrugues:
Did you second that?
Jessica Gannon:
Mm-hmm.
Chair Gibbs:
She sure did.
Stan Andrade:
Thank you all. Have a great holiday.
Louis Weil:
Thank you neighbors.
Chair Gibbs:
And nice seeing you, Anne.
Louis Weil:
All right, see you [inaudible 00:39:30].
Chair Gibbs:
All right, the next one.
Bill Rodrugues:
Chair, can we do expedited for this one?
Chair Gibbs:
Can we do ... Let me call it and then this is on Vista Del Sol. Yeah. You guys good with expediting on this one?
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