CBH-12 Correspondence – Khadaffy Ripors
From: Vivian Linderman <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 12:52 PM
To: CityClerk <[email protected]>
Cc: Khadaffy Ripors <[email protected]>
Subject: City Council Meeting 8/22/23 - Item #12 Parks & Rec Budget
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Good afternoon,
I am sending this on behalf of Khadaffy Ripors who will be presenting the results of his survey of Long Beach pickleball players at tonight’s meeting.
The survey is attached.
Respectfully,
Vivian Linderman
Resident of District 5
Just IMAGINE.
LONG BEACH PICKLEBALL PLAYER SURVEY
AUGUST 2023
What city do
you live in?
What is
your zip
code?
If you live in LB,
what neighborhood
do you live in?
(Bixby Knolls,
College Estates,
Belmont Heights,
Downtown, etc.)
What park is within
or closest to your
neighborhood?
How far are you
willing to drive to
play recreational
pickleball?
How many times
per week do you
play pickleball?
When do you prefer
playing pickleball?
Are you
interested in
joining a
league or
ladder in LB?
Bellflower 90706 Liberty Park 25min Everyday Evenings No Bellflower 90706 North LB Somerset Park 3 miles
Less than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
Bellflower 90706 N/A
Library Park,
Bellflower (no
pickleball courts) 20 minutes
More than 3x per
week Mornings Maybe
Cerritos 90703
Don Knabe and
Liberty park in Cerritos 15-20 min
More than 3x per
week Evenings Yes
Cerritos 90703 Liberty Park 6-8 miles
More than 3x per
week
Evenings, All of the
above Yes
Cerritos 90703 Liberty Park 8-10 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
Costa Mesa 92626 20 miles
Less than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
Lakewood 90712 Somerset 10 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings Not at this time
Lakewood 90712 5 miles
Less than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
Lakewood 90713 Heartwell 6 miles
More than 3x per
week All of the above Yes
Lakewood 90713 Somerset 5-10 miles
More than 3x per
week Evenings Yes
Lakewood 90713 Somerset 3 miles Everyday Mornings, Evenings Yes Lakewood 90712 Mayfair 10 miles
More than 3x per
week All of the above Yes
Lakewood 90715 Liberty park 30 minutes?
More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Sure.
Long Beach 90803 belmont Shore
Bay Shore but I prefer
Marina Vista 5 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings no
LONG BEACH PICKLEBALL PLAYER SURVEY
AUGUST 2023
Long Beach 90803 Belmont park Marina vista 20 min
More than 3x per
week Mornings Yes
Long Beach 90803 Belmont Park Marina Vista 3 miles
More than 3x per
week All of the above Yes
Long Beach 90803 Naples Marina Vista 15 minutes
More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90803 Spinnaker Bay Marina Vista 10 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings Maybe
Long Beach 90803 University Park EstatesMarina Vista 20 minut e More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings No
Long Beach 90803 Belmont Heights Marina Vista Park 5 miles More than 3x per
week Mornings Yes
Long Beach 90804 Zephyr Marina Vista 5 miles
More than 3x per
week All of the above Yes
Long Beach 90804 Belmont heights Marina Vista or BJK 10Miles More than 3x per
week All of the above Yes
Long Beach 90804 Eastside Recreation Park 20 min
Less than 3x per
week All of the above No
Long Beach 90804 5-10 miles
Less than 3x per
week Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90805 Bixby Knolls
Scherer - pickleball is
Somerset 15 mins
Less than 3x per
week Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90805 North Long Beach Scherer Park 15 miles Less than 3x per
week Mornings Yes
Long Beach 90807 Los Cerritos Los Cerritos 10 miles
More than 3x per
week All of the above yes
Long Beach 90807 Los Cerritos Los Cerritos 10 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings No
Long Beach 90807 Los Cerritos Los Cerritos Park 5 miles Less than 3x per
week Mornings No
LONG BEACH PICKLEBALL PLAYER SURVEY
AUGUST 2023
Long Beach 90807 Virginia Country Club Scherer Park 10-15 miles More than 3x per
week Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90807 Bixby Knolls Somerset 8 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings No
Long Beach 90807 Bixby Knolls Somerset 30 miles Everyday All of the above Yes Long Beach 90807 Bixby Knolls Somerset 20 minutes
Less than 3x per
week Mornings Sure
Long Beach 90807 Bixby Knolls Somerset 5 miles
Less than 3x per
week Mornings Possibly
Long Beach 90807 Bixby Knolls Somerset 10
Less than 3x per
week Mornings Yes
Long Beach 90807 Bixby Knolls Somerset 10 miles
More than 3x per
week All of the above No
Long Beach 90807 California Heights Somerset Fountain Valley More than 3x per
week All of the above Maybe
Long Beach 90807 North Long Beach Somerset 12 miles
Less than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings yes
Long Beach 90807 Bixby Knolls Somerset 10 minutes
More than 3x per
week Mornings Some interest
Long Beach 90807 Bixby Knolls Somerset 5-15 minutes
More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90807 Bixby Knolls Somerset 5miles
Less than 3x per
week Mornings No
Long Beach 90807 Bixby knolls
Somerset and Cherry
park 5 miles Everyday Afternoons, Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90807 BIXBY Knolls Sommerset 20 min
Less than 3x per
week Mornings No
LONG BEACH PICKLEBALL PLAYER SURVEY
AUGUST 2023
Long Beach 90807 California Heights Sommerset Would like to stay within 5-10 miles! Traffic can be a factor!Everyday All of the above Yes! Long Beach 90808 Lakewood Plaza El Dorado 10 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90808 Ranchos El Dorado 10 min
Less than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings No
Long Beach 90808 Lakewood Plaza El Dorado Park 10 miles More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Sure
Long Beach 90808 El Dorado Estates El Dorado TC 15 minutes More than 3x per
week All of the above Yes
Long Beach 90810 Westside Admiral Kidd Park 15 miles
More than 3x per
week All of the above Yes
Long Beach 90813 AOC7 Marina Vista 5 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90814 Alamitos Beach Bixby 10 miles
Less than 3x per
week Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90814 Alamitos Heights Marina Vista 15 min
Less than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes!
Long Beach 90814 Belmont Heights Marina Vista 10-15 miles More than 3x per
week All of the above Yes
Long Beach 90814 Belmont Heights Marina Vista 10 miles Everyday All of the above Yes Long Beach 90814 Alamitos Heights Marina Vista Park 20 miles Everyday All of the above Depends on
the level of play
Long Beach 90814 Belmont Heights Rec Park 10 miles
More than 3x per
week All of the above Yes
Long Beach 90815 College Estates College Estates Park 5 miles More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
LONG BEACH PICKLEBALL PLAYER SURVEY
AUGUST 2023
Long Beach 90815 La Marina
College estates, el
dorado, Whaley 10 minutes Everyday
Mornings, Afternoons,
Evenings, All of the
above Not sure
Long Beach 90815 Artcraft Manor Stearns Park 5 miles
Less than 3x per
week Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90815 Los Altos Sterns Park 5 miles Everyday Mornings Sure Long Beach 90815 Los Altos Whaley Park 10 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings No thank you.
Long Beach 90815
La Marina- east of
Palo Verde, north of
Anaheim
Whaley, Stevely, El
Dorado Depends on where and facility. Now 5-15 minutes
More than 3x per
week
Mornings, Afternoons,
Evenings, All of the
above Sure
Long Beach 90802 Downtown Bayshore I like to stay in Long Beach and I go play on San Pedro, and Seal Beach More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Maybe
Long Beach 90803 Naples Bayshore 6 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings Yes
Long Beach 90803 Belmont Shore Colorado Lagoon 5 miles
Less than 3x per
week Mornings Not sure
Long Beach 90803 Belmont Shore MVP 5 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90805 North Long Beach Houghton 5 miles
Less than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90807 Bixby Knolls
Los Cerritos/
Somerset 6 miles Everyday Mornings, Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90807 Bixby Knolls Scherer 20 minutes
More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90807 Bixby Knolls Somerset 8 miles
More than 3x per
week All of the above Yes
Long Beach 90807 Bixby Knolls Somerset 10 miles
Less than 3x per
week Mornings Yes it
Long Beach 90807 California Heights Somerset Park 10 minutes More than 3x per
week
Mornings, Afternoons,
Evenings, All of the
above Yes
LONG BEACH PICKLEBALL PLAYER SURVEY
AUGUST 2023
Long Beach 90808 El dorado park estates El Dorado 5 miles More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90808 Lakewood Village Pan Am 10 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings Yes
Long Beach 90808 South of Conant Somerset/El dorado 5-10 More than 3x per
week Mornings No
Long Beach 90814 Belmont Heights Marina Vista 15 minutes More than 3x per
week Afternoons Yes
Long Beach 90814 Belmont Heights
Marina Vista and
Recreation Park 5 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings, Afternoons Yes
Long Beach 90815 College Estates Marina Vista 30 min
More than 3x per
week Mornings, Afternoons Yes
Long Beach 90897 Bixby Terrace Somerset 5-10 miles
More than 3x per
week Mornings Yes
Los Alamitos 90720 El Durado Park 10 miles
More than 3x per
week Evenings Yes
Signal Hill 90755 Discovery Park 30 minutes
More than 3x per
week Mornings Yes
Signal Hill 90755 Somerset 5 miles each way
More than 3x per
week Mornings, Evenings
Signal Hill 90755 Signal Hill Discovery Well 10 miles
More than 3x per
week All of the above Yes
South Gate 90280 I dont Somerset park 20 miles if so Everyday Mornings, Afternoons,
Evenings, All of the
above Yes I am
Torrance 90505 To somerset park where friends play
Less than 3x per
week Mornings ? Not sure
LONG BEACH PICKLEBALL PLAYER SURVEY
AUGUST 2023
Please, add any comments you might have in regards to pickleball in LB Please continue to turn any of the unused tennis courts into pickle ball courts or add the lines and markings. Thank you
More access to pickleball courts at an affordable fees or preferably free.
There is a shortage of courts in Long Beach with 40 to 50 players gathering on weekend to share playing time on the courts. The city of Cerritos just opened a 10 court pickleball facility this week. Why can’t Longbeach do something similar? I working Long Beach so that is where I play PB.
Having more courts in the area would be great.
Keep PB free. Add more courts in the city. Re open College Park East (Stevely)
LONG BEACH PICKLEBALL PLAYER SURVEY
AUGUST 2023
Long Beach needs more courts and better facilities.. ie Bayshore net is a dilapidated net that held Together by twist ties .
Keeps seniors healthy and socialized
It would be great if the City of Long Beach would provide dedicated pickleball courts and not charge to use courts.
Just got into pickleball
add court lines to Los Cerritos park
For the aged,, pickleball is the antidote to loneliness. It builds friendships and community spirit in a manner that no other recreational activity does. It’s accessible to players of all ages and genders and provides an active healthy lifestyle. As the most rapidly expanding sport in the US, it is necessary that dedicated courts be established to meet growing demand. The sport is here to stay and cities and authorities need to be proactive in ensuring that facilities are available to meet demand.
LONG BEACH PICKLEBALL PLAYER SURVEY
AUGUST 2023
Cerritos just opened 10 new dedicated pickleball courts but charge $10 a day or $60 per month. LB needs free pickleball with dedicated courts! I don’t want to pay at El Dorado or BJK. Free pickleball is the best kind of pickleball. Also, don’t build one or two courts a park. It’s a waste of resources. Build 4-8 or more courts at a park.
Pickleball builds positive communities. Finally, build it where people want to play and make sure the places can support parking and away from neighbors. Heart well park is a good central location in Long Beach.
Support permanent courts asap
Pickle ball is a great recreational activity with a big social component which helps foster strong communities and new friendships. The City needs to invest more of its budget into making Long Beach a premier pickle ball destination.
Would LOVE to see pickleball courts at Los Cerritos park. - at the very least they need to be restriped as a multi sport court
Current court situation and parks and Rec offerings are irresponsible for a city of this size. There are no lessons or leagues, and few places to play resulting in overcrowding on courts and negative impacts on neighborhoods. Pickleball is here to stay and will continue to grow in LB as students learn the game in school. LB must do better to meet the need.
I just want to see more permanent courts
There needs to be more pickleball courts in Long Beach
We need more access to Free pickleball in Long Beach
Every neighborhood needs a pickleball court. #pickleballforall.
Good social sports
LONG BEACH PICKLEBALL PLAYER SURVEY
AUGUST 2023
More night play is needed for those who work, consider adding sound proofing barriers in areas with close proximity to residential areas, consider reopening Stevely Park, add permanent nets at Bay Shore. Instead of charging per court at El Dorado and BJK- maybe do a flat fee for the year. This is done in Tustin. Price IS a concern for most as many play 5-7 days a week.
Long Beach is not a pickleball friendly community!
Long Beach needs courts that are open in the weekday evenings. Pickleball is not just for the retired folks.
Long Beach is way behind other city's near-by.
Prefer to play in a group rather than open play
Need more lined/dedicated free public pickleball courts in Long Beach. Some courts in Long Beach need new lights. Would like to see paddle rack system built into the pickleball court.
We need more dedicated courts to pickleball.
I have played pickleball all over the country in smaller and larger cities where they have installed Dedicated Pickleball courts and have been very disappointed in the lack of support for pickleball in Long Beach
Will only play on permanent nets and dedicated pickleball courts. Currently a member at Los Cab Sports Center located in Fountain Valley. They have 39 permanent courts.
Marina Vista park is a perfect park for pickleball. Plenty of parking with public bathrooms. Also far enough away from housing that would not be bothered with the ball/paddle noise. This park could easily accomodate 12 to 16 permanent courts. The tennis court is not use that often and Long Beach has nearby tennis courts for people to play.
Long Beach needs to have more dedicated pickleball courts that are open play in all areas of the city. Have recreation classes like tennis and volleyball.
LONG BEACH PICKLEBALL PLAYER SURVEY
AUGUST 2023
Make it a priority to provide options and solutions with offerings in our community LB needs more dedicated free courts to bring the community together and grow the sport.
We need permanent courts
I have played about a year, throughout Long Beach and Lakewood. A lovely group of mature adults enjoying the facilities provided by our world famous parks and recreation department. Thank you for supporting your community, our health, and our happiness.
Free play (high taxes cover), open play, permanent, well maintained and safe courts needed.
Long Beach is a big City ! We need more options of pb play in our city . Please !! I’ve never played but want to begin
We really need dedicated Pickleball facilities in LB.
It has been one of the highlights of moving to the area and getting to know the community.
LONG BEACH PICKLEBALL PLAYER SURVEY
AUGUST 2023
We definitely need more dedicated courts in Long Beach open all hours. Younger people are starting to play, including middle school and high school age. They cannot play in AM and need longer open hours. Also, cost is important. Do they charge to play basketball, disc golf, etc? Pickleball should be the same, free in our public parks until we get dedicated courts. Please consider all the residents who want to enjoy this sport
We should be allowed to play pickleball at the public parks the same as any other sport. And we should not have to fight for that right.
Currently in LBC, there is 67 permanent/dedicated tennis courts in our parks and rec centers.
There is only ONE permanent PickleBall court in LBC, at Bayshore Aquatic Park.
We deserve to have many, many permanent and dedicated PickleBall courts in our city of 400K residents!
Currently, PRM has 67 permanent tennis courts in LBC. Only 1 dedicated/permanent PickleBall court (Bayshore Park). LBC has almost 1/2 a million residents within our city limits. Time for our ELECTED officials and PRM Director to take LBC’s PickleBall potential to the next level.
I love it!
Pickleball courts should be expanded in this city to keep up with the growth of Pickleball itself. It adds visitors to the park and keeps people out of trouble.