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Meeting Time: 10-08-24 18:00
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8.1. Public Hearing to consider introduction and First Reading of an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Orange amending Title 17 of the Orange Municipal Code related to application expiration, noticing requirements, and time for appeal; and finding of CEQA exemption.
Ordinance No. 28-24.
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9.1. Resident Vehicle Incentive Program. 3 0 3 0
Agenda Item: eComments for 8.1. Public Hearing to consider introduction and First Reading of an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Orange amending Title 17 of the Orange Municipal Code related to application expiration, noticing requirements, and time for appeal; and finding of CEQA exemption. Ordinance No. 28-24.
Overall Sentiment
Adrienne Gladson
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Submitted At: 12:23pm 10-08-24
Strongly support this action. Do recommend shifting the time to submit an appeal to 7 days not 5. I will save my concerns on the current appeal fee (still waiting) and process for council consideration in the future. Back to this action, the community and small business owners have less and less power to protect their property and business rights, must have the right to appeal something (like a grading permit, minor site plan, or demo permit approval or denial for staff decisions) and should be afforded enough time to prepare the required appeal documentation. The appeal step is also necessary before any decision can be submitted to the court. We need to show fairness. Seven (7) calendar days with credit for closed city days and holidays is a good compromise.
Appreciate my comments on this item from the PC hearing were included. Also, my e-comments all run together which makes it difficult to follow. I put them in as paragraphs for just that reason. One of the problems with the software program and I hope that can be fixed in the future.
Let's shift from 15 days to 7 days.
Leslie Manderscheid
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Submitted At: 6:03pm 10-06-24
The time for appeal needs to be extended for at least 7 working days.
Agenda Item: eComments for 9.1. Resident Vehicle Incentive Program.
Overall Sentiment
Adrienne Gladson
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Submitted At: 12:28pm 10-08-24
Is this gift of taxpayers money legal?
Bonnie Robinson
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Submitted At: 11:36am 10-08-24
I strongly oppose implementing the Resident Vehicle Incentive Program. Because interest rates are dropping, it will already be easier for residents to purchase cars. An additional costly incentive is not necessary. If Orange auto dealerships are providing customers with excellent service and quality cars with competitive prices, there should be no problem attracting resident purchasers without this proposed program. The majority of the car dealerships in Orange are owned by the same family company with many connections to Orange City Council members, not a good optic for implementation of this program. On my last visit to Toyota of Orange, it did not appear that they were lacking customers. Our city should not be picking and choosing which companies should be benefiting from such a program. $1,550,00 could go a long way in providing or maintaining services for our public libraries or the Orange Senior Center. Thank you.
Leslie Manderscheid
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Submitted At: 11:55pm 10-07-24
The Summary and Strategic Plan Goals for the Resident Vehicle Incentive Program for new, used and leased vehicles, sound good, but they are not true. This Program does not include all Orange auto dealerships nor does it encourage support of all, not even “many” local businesses. It only benefits 5 car dealerships in the City of Orange, 4 of which are owned by Wilson Automotive. There are numerous other used car dealerships in the City of Orange whose sales would also qualify for this program and whose business benefits the City of Orange. See the list below. It is wrong to discriminate against these other dealerships in the City of Orange.
As for leased vehicles, since they are usually paid on a monthly basis and the sales tax is calculated & paid monthly, how do you apply this Incentive Program?
Since the Program is contingent on passage of Measure Z, the ½ cent sales tax measure, I am questioning the amount of $500 for the rebate. Doing the calculation of the Measure Z ½ cent sales tax for the minimum sales price of $20,000 equates to $100. How was the $500 rebate calculated? It must also be noted the $500 rebate essentially ends up back in the hands of only the 5 listed car dealerships.
It also must be noted Wilson Automotive has been donating to City of Orange political candidates for several years and has also funded political action committees (PACs) sending out information (some of it false) about candidates running against their chosen candidates for City Council and Mayor. I would suggest any sitting Council members who have benefited from donations by Wilson Automotive and/or their funded PACS, abstain from voting on this measure as it stands.
I do not support this proposed Incentive Program as presented.
Following is a list of 11 auto dealers in Orange which should also qualify for this Program:
Auto Connections
Auto Republic
B & J Car Company
Best Deal Auto Brokers
Bruns Motors
EZE Auto Brokers
Enterprise Car Sales
Pennington’s Auto Sales
Ponda Auto Family
Premier Car Source
Southern California Preowned