October 18, 2022, Item #7
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Item 7 -Summary Vacation of Portions of Certain Right-of-Way (VAC21-001) at the Westerly Terminus of Tenth Street (APN: 317-021-30)
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October 18, 2022, Item #7
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October
18,
2022
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Leonard;
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Frank;
John
Mul
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Steve
Vaus;
Dave
Grosch;
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Hazeltine;
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Manis
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2022 City
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Hello, My
name
is
Claudia
Hernandez,
and
I have
lived
on
Rimbach
Rd
for
over
20 years
. As
news
started
spreading
of
the
City
's
plans
for
a
six
home
development
of
the
preserved
land
on
both
sides
of
Rimbach
Rd
, I was
shocked.
The
land
has
been
undisturbed
forever,
and
it is
home
to
a
large
amount
of
wildlife
. We
have
hawks
, turkey
vultures
, roadrunners,
gnat
catchers,
quails,
owls,
bobcats,
woodpeckers,
ocellots
and
even
tortoises
to
name
just
a few.
It
is
heartbreaking
to
see
what
is
becoming
of
Poway
. I dread
the
day,
if
the
city
approves
this developement,
when
the
bulldozers
will
come
and
comp
letely
destroy
this
land
effectively
killing
the
ground
nesting
birds,
and
all
other
wildlife
present
here
. I was
born
and
raised
in
Mexico
City,
and
when
I first
arr
ived
in
Poway
I thought
it
was
a
paradise.
'The
City
in
the
Count
ry'
indeed.
But
sadly
it
is
not
looking
like
that
any
more.
We
have
spoken
to
the
environmental
assesors
that
have
been
on
Rimbach
recently.
Well,
they
need
to
come
back
in
the
spring
so
they
can
accurately
assess
all
the
nesting
and
the
wildlife
that
is
abundant
and
reproducing
at
that
time.
I have
heard
that
officials
have
said
that
the
wildlife
can
just
move
uphill
and
it
will
be
fine
. So
I ask
the
council
members
where
is
this
wildlife
going
to
go
if
you
continue
granting
building
permits
on
said
hills?
When
is
enough?
What
then?
Do
we
just
say
the
quails
can
go
to
Mt
. Woodson
or
where?
What
is
next?
Changing
the
slogan
of
Poway
to
no
longer
be
a
city
in
the
country?
These
development
and
even
more
expansion
of
the
religious
center
will
be
so
devastating
to
the
environment
and
for
the
wildlife
access
to
the
Van
Dam
Peak
preserve.
I kindly
urge
the
council
members
to
reconsider,
and
protect
these
lands.
I would
love
to
see
the
Council
Members
getting
out
of
the
City
Ha
ll and
taking
a
walk
on
these
wondeful
lands
which
are
also
a
heritage
of
the
Kumeyaay
people.
I am
also
attaching
these
amazing
pictures
I have
been
able
to
take
over
the
years
. It
is
indeed
a
paradise
that
should
remain
undisturbed.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
.
Claudia
Hernandez
12245
Rimbach
Rd
, Poway,
CA
92064
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Sarah
Koerting
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Carol
Cue
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Tuesday,
October
18,
2022
2:27
PM
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I have
lived
in
Poway
on
and
off
since
1960
and
have
seen
councils
and
wildlife
come
and
go
.
It's
time
for
this
council
to
take
a
new
approach
to
the
well
being
of
Poways
wildlife.
Just
because
10th
avenue
is
not
being
used
by
vehicles
does
not
mean
it
is
not
being
used
by
wildlife
. I urge
you
before
you
vote
to
form
a committee
of
concerned
Poway
citizens
to
research
the
area
and
report
back
to
the
council
within
60 days what
effect
closing
the
road
would
have
on
our
wildlife
users.
Thank
you
.
Carole
Cue
1 October 18, 2022, Item #7
Carrie
Gallagher
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Lori
Grennan
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Tuesday,
October
18,
2022
2:56
PM
Caylin
Frank;
Dave
Grosch;
Steve
Vaus;
John
Mullin
; Barry
Leonard;
Chris
Hazeltine;
Bob
Manis;
City
Clerk
RE:
10-18-22
City
Council
Meeting
Agenda
Item
#7
Vacate
10th
Street
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October
18,
2022
Dear
Mayor,
City
Council
Members
and
Staff,
Re
: 10/18/22
Agenda
Item
#7-
Vacating
right-of-way
on
Tenth
Street
(APN
: 317-021-30)
Our
Coastal
Sage
Scrub
and
Chaparral
is
the
most
endangered
habitat
in
the
continental
United
States.
It
is
time
to
protect
our
remaining
habitat
from
bulldozers
and
structures.
Gifting
10 th
Street
to
the
Chinmaya
Mission
Center
is
not
what
is
best
for
Van
Dam
Preserve's
wildlife
and
the
residents
who
enjoy
watching
it
in
Poway.
The
Rimbach/Leona
properties
tie
into
the
Van
Dam
Preserve
by
the
10 th
Street
access
point.
Gifting
the
land
to
the
center
will
close
off
this
area
to
rare
and
endangered
wildlife
and
harm
the
overal
l health
of
the
preserve.
If
you
gift
the
Chinmaya
Mission
Center
this
land,
they
will
close
off
this
area
to
wildlife
with
a
garden
or
children's
center.
I request
you
delay
making
any
decisions
until
the
Rimbach
proposed
housing
development
is
decided.
Please
vote
"no"
and
preserve
Poway's
open
spaces!
I am
not
alone.
Nearly
everyone
I speak
with
do
not
want
more
development
in
Poway,
especially
in
endangered
habitat
areas.
Thank
you.
Best
regards,
Lori
Grennan
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Tuesday, October 18, 2022 2:46 PM
City Clerk
Comments for agenda #7 for tonights meeting
land use proposal letter .docx
1 October 18, 2022, Item #7
Steve
Vaus,
Mayor
CC:
John
Mullin,
Deputy
Mayor
Caylin
Frank,
Council
Member
Barry
Leonard,
Council
Member
Dave
Grosch,
Council
Member
Oct.
18,
2022
Via
Email:
Mayor
Vaus,
Council
members,
Page
1 of
2 Concerning
Agenda
Item
7 of
Poway
City
Council
meeting
10/18/22
-
Vacating
right-of-way
on
Tenth
Street
(APN:
317-021-30)
I recommend
tabling
the
vote
on
this
agenda
item
to
consider
other
use
of
the
property
that
will
be
vacated
by
this
action
until
more
is
known
about
the
proposed
subdivision
plans
to
be
located
in
the
two
adjacent
lots.
The
Chinmaya
Mission
Center
already
has
large
areas
of
land
for
a
proposed
garden,
while
critical
habitat
is
constantly
under
threat
of
removal.
Besides
that,
the
actual
plans
for
this
area
have
not
been
divulged
to
the
public
along
with
the
plan
to develop
the
adjacent
lots.
Since
this
action
will
affect
the
hiking
trails
and
natural
habitat
enjoyed
by
many
in
the
community,
the
plans
for
this
area
should
be
fully
divulged
and
public
comment
considered
before
voting on
this
item
.
The
area
to
be
vacated
could
possibly
be
used
to
mitigate
for
loss
of
important
habitat
in
this
area
while
enhancing
the
nearby
Meadowbrook
Ecological
Reserve.
This
area
already
teams
with
wildlife
that
is
a
joy
to
see
and
can
significantly
benefit
by
tying
it
to
the
main
habitat
reserve.
The
parcels
in
the
area
of
this
proposed
vacation
of
right-of-way,
support
mostly
Coastal
Sage
Scrub
(CSS)
habitat
. As
you
know,
CSS
has
been
declining
in
California
at
an
alarming
rate
and
is
critically
threatened
by
housing
developments
.
The
lots
adjacent
to
the
right-of-way
have
been
separated
from
the
Meadowbrook
reserve
for
many
years
due
to
10 th
street
and
fire
management clearing
(FMZ).
The
abandonment
of
the
road
is
a
rare
opportunity
to
gain
ground
on
habitat
loss
by
reattaching
the
habitat
in
these
lots
to
the
Meadowbrook
Ecological
Reserve
through
this
right-of-way.
Doing
this
would
benefit
the
ecological
reserve,
the
remaining
habitat
in
the
Rimbach
area,
and
make
the
hiking
trails
more
enjoyable.
Already,
the
fire
management
zone
near
the
Chinmaya
Mission
Center
is
too
large
which
has
taken
more
natural
habitat
than
necessary
and
needs
to
be
corrected.
The
FMZ
size
should
be
corrected,
and
the
abandoned
right-of-way
should
be
restored
as
natural
CSS
habitat
and
attached
to
the
Meadowbrook
Reserve
. With
these
two
actions,
the
Natural
Habitat
area
can
be
greatly
enhanced
while
serving
the
entire
community.
Jeffrey
W.
Schmidt
Attachment:
Diagram
of
proposed
habitat
connection
(Figure
1)
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2 Figure
1:
Proposed
Habitat
Connection
October 18, 2022, Item #7
Carrie Gallagher
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Tuesday, October 18, 2022 2:49 PM
Barry Leonard; Caylin Frank; John Mullin; Steve Vaus; Dave Grosch; Chris Hazeltine; Bob Manis; City Clerk
Poway 10th Street vacating land to Chinmaya Spiritual Center I You don't often get email from [email protected]. Learn why this is important
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To Poway City Council Members and City Clerk,
My name is Randal Grant Powers. My address is 12203 Leona Lane in Poway. We own the property (since 1987) that is adjacent to the 10th Street Poway right-of-way that Chinmaya Spiritual Center is asking the City of Poway to vacate to them. The City of Poway engineers have determined that Chinmaya is entitled to the 10th Street right-of-way that is adjacent to their property according to a map that was drawn up in 1888. Poway seems to be following the rules and regulations the City of San Diego uses, as it has not set specific regulation regarding vacating land. Other municipalities that have vacated land, have divided/split the land equally between the property owners bordering the land to be vacated.I believe Poway does not have to abide by an 1888 map. I also would like Poway to consider dividing the land equally with the owners of the adjoining properties.
We also have an easement with the City of Poway on the 10th Street right-of-way for Fire Truck Turnaround. We were required by the city to build and maintain the fire-truck turnaround at our significant expense. This was required in order to build a garage addition to our house. This amounted to thousands of dollars to grade, compacting fill dirt, asphalting and installing of irrigation to maintain plants that prevent erosion of the subsequent slopes that were created.
When talking with Chinmaya about their intended use for the land, they said they plan on making a garden or a child center, however the city engineer has said the land can not be built on. We are in favor of leaving 10th Street the way it is.
Wildlife including California Quail, Roadrunners and other species, live and nest on that strip of land that is connected with California Fish and Wildlife land to the west and open land to the south. Let's not give up the country feel of Poway.
Sincerely,
Randal Grant Powers
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