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Subject: Gun insurance mandate
I am opposed to mandate that every gun owner purchase liability insurance. Since when does the government tell us what to buy? This is unconstitutional and you have overwhelming opposition to this do the right thing and represent the people and not yourselves! Sent from my iPhone
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But how many hands will my name, address and telephone number pass through? How many people that I have not met and therefore do not trust will know where I live? Will know that I have guns in the house? And that's just the people who see this list in the course of trying to do good.
This says nothing of the cyber security issue. Can the City of San Jose guarantee that a list of all the gun owners in the city will be kept safe from hackers? What about the nonprofit that the city identifies to reach out to these gun owners? What about the third parties that these nonprofits share this information with? Will anyone guard the information about my gun ownership as well as I do?
Despite what many people may think, I am in favor of gun control. I do believe that gun laws can be put into place to make a community safer.
This, however, is not one of those laws. The only thing this law does is make things less safe for myself, my family and the thousands of other families who take the important step of not sharing their gun ownership information with just anyone.
If this law goes into effect, I no longer control who knows about my guns. My information is just a small step away from public information. This law makes me and my family a target for criminals.
I realize that the City of San Jose is hurt and still healing from the VTA tragedy that occurred less than a year ago. As someone who was born and raised in San Jose, I understand. It hurts me too.
However, this will not fix it. It will only make things worse. Please, do not allow this rash and poorly put together ordinance to pass.
Sincerely,
A Concerned Citizen
District 6
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Dear Mayor Liccardo and Councilmember of San Jo e
The Gun Harm Reduction Ordinance will not improve San Jo e Neither the ta component nor the in urance mandate will reduce crime of any kind, much le firearm related violence The ordinance mandate , "a homeowner' , renter' , or gun liability in urance policy pecifically covering lo e or damage re ulting from any negligent or accidental u e of the Firearm, including but not limited to death, injury, or property damage "
"Negligent" i a legal term u ed in CA Penal Code 246 3 " any per on who willfully di charge a firearm in a gro ly negligent manner which could re ult in injury or death to a per on i guilty of a public offen e and hall be puni hed by impri onment in a county jail not e ceeding one year, or by impri onment pur uant to ubdivi ion (h) of Section 1170 " In other word , negligent di charge of a firearm i the willful di charge of a firearm in a manner that could re ult in injury or death No in urance company offer coverage for injury or death re ulting from willful mi u e of a firearm
Particularly di appointing i thi law' creation of a nonprofit with a guaranteed revenue tream from the ta Di appointing becau e the ordinance i mi ing a prohibition again t the nonprofit hiring former city employee One e pect to ee uch behavior in a Loui iana legi lative body, not the city council of a California metropoli
Mi u e of firearm i overwhelmingly committed by criminal , gang , and lunatic , a hown by CDC and FBI data Thi ordinance contain no tep to addre tho e A law that doe n't olve problem i not neutral; it wa te time and re ource San Jo e need to u e el ewhere
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The police department of San Jose is understaffed. Compensation packages for most PD positions are below market. PD staffing and compensation should be brought up to appropriate levels. Prosecuting attorneys should be funded to pursue violent criminals. Jails and prisons should be places of incarceration and rehabilitation, not revolving doors, for criminals.
Mental health services are urgently needed throughout the city. Break the cycle of crime by getting at the root causes, mental health problems and organized crime.
There are over 20,000 gun laws on the books in America. Passing another useless law is not the answer.
Please vote AGAINST reading the Gun Harm Reduction Ordinance into law.
Sonia Chang
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I am emailing you to tell you to oppose proposition 22-045. This hinders the law abiding citizens ability to own firearms which is a clear violation of the 2nd amendment. This does nothing to reduce criminal acts involving firearms. I understand that the tax payers have to pay a substantial amount for gun related incidents every year. A suggestion I have for the council, is to have any person who violates any current firearm related law pay the salaries of the officers involved with the violation in addition too a fine.This approach targets violators more than every law abiding firearm owner. As city council members I wish for you to take more time and come up with a better solutions rather than use simple blanket laws. Thank you for your time.
- Carson
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Tue 2/8/2022 6:38 AM
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Subject: Gun liability insurance
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Dear San Jose City council -
We, in Concord and the rest of California, are watching your plan to approve an unconstitutional measure to require gun owners to have liability insurance.
Please reconsider, by using these points to think:
-no such liability insurance exists.
-requiring the insurance would put an unconstitutional burden on gun owners -this would not stop illegal gun owners from committing crimes. -this is a virtue-signaling action on your part, which will do nothing to stop gun crime. -why burden law-abiding citizens with more expense, which will have no reducing effect on crime? -Rather, why not work on measures that will improve the community, by strengthening families, with incentives for home ownership?
-encouraging small businesses to start and thrive.
-fully funding your police, and supporting them by actions, not just words. -providing gun safety classes for the citizens of your city.
Don't go at the problem by adding more red tape and expense. Legal gun owners are not the problem. Gun ownership has not increased dramatically in the US in the last few years because law- abiding citizens feel safe, but just the opposite. Adding this bureaucratic 'solution' will not help reduce your crime.
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Tom M
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I am writing in opposition to gun liability insurance and fee ordinance. First, this ordinance directly impacts low income and minorities disproportionately who live in more dangerous areas of the city and are more likely to require access to firearms. Second, this ordinance is passed at a time where raising crime rates are increasing as is the interest in owning firearms which does not seem politically astute. Third, requiring insurance or fees to exercise a constitutionally enumerated right is appalling. Fourth, this ordinance in no way prevents the acquisition of firearms by criminals or other individuals who are restricted from accessing them by law. Finally, this ordinance will immediately be met with lawsuits for which significant tax dollars will be used in litigation and will likely be defeated. Those funds should be more wisely used for the myriad of other issues facing the city. One of which, if the San Jose government is truly concerned with gun safety, could be gun ownership training and safety education to help ensure gun owners are knowledgeable in safe operation, care, and storage of any firearms they may own.
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Fw: Gun insurance / gun fee ordinance
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Please advise my district 8 council woman that I request that she vote NO on this proposal...very unfair to the law abiding citizens of the San Jose community.
Gun ownership is a RIGHT...! Not a privilege. Your responsibility is to protect constitutional rights and not to undermine them....please reconsider your past actions regarding this ordnance...
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Fw: Gun Harm Reduction Ordinance
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The Gun Harm Reduction Ordinance states that, "All monies from the Gun Harm Reduction Fee shall be expended by the Designated Nonprofit Organization on providing services to residents of the City who own or possess a firearm in the City,...". 10.32.220
How will the DNO know who has firearms?
Jess B. Guy
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https://outlook.office365.com/mail/ AAMkADUxOWI4ZjE3LTRkNDEtNGUzMS04MjAwLTIzNzdiYTdkMjc5NAAuAAAAAAC… 2/6 had his firearm on him. However, the officer believed he was reaching for his firearm, despite Philando saying otherwise, and shot him dead in front of Philando's girlfriend Diamond Reynolds and her four year-old daughter. This proposed ordinance has people reaching for towards their firearm in fact.
Even if we were to give the officer in the Philando shoo ng the benefit of doubt (which is another conversa on) say perhaps the officer killed Philando as a result of poor training or inexperience, that brings up issues about the SJPD. As noted by San Jose Spotlight in October of last year, the SJPD has had mul ple issues with retaining officers since the pension benefits dispute, and further that due to many factors it's hard to recruit new officers.
For reference h ps //sanjosespotlight com/san jose police department struggles to staff up cops sjpd/ In theory, this may mean that more officers in the SJPD are less experience and less trained, making them more prone to make mistakes in the presence of a person being compelled to reach towards their firearm as a result of this ordinance Furthermore, according to the 2020 SJPD Use of Force Report, officers were 11% more likely to encounter Deadly Force Resistance by persons compared to the previous 5 years. See PDF Page 18.
h ps://www.sjpd.org/home/showpublisheddocument/686/637661722881030000 This means that officers are more likely to be extra nervous around persons reaching towards their firearms than previous years, due to the alleged higher threat of deadly force indicated in SJPD's own report.
For these reasons, this ordinance creates a cocktail of deadly circumstances. At a minimum this language must be changed so as to prevent San Jose from crea ng more deaths like those of Philando Cas le, and also to prevent pu ng officers in these dangerous situa ons. However, I'd suggest pushing the passage of this ordinance back so that it can be worked on, if not opposed in general In this example I used an officer pulling someone over in a vehicle, but the situa on can very well apply to anyone transpor ng a firearm by public transporta on, foot, bicycle, or other means.
2.) Sec on 10.32.225(C): The "poor exemp on".
First off, I appreciate that the exemp on for the poor has been amended from its previous state, as the previous exemp on seemed to only use the poor as a mere token to shield the ordinance from li ga on, given that many of those who were below the requisite Poverty Level in CA GOV 68632(a) & (b) could barely afford to live in San Jose. I s ll want to see the details as to who will qualify, and quite frankly that should be further clarified in the ordinance, as those with low incomes should not be priced out of their rights
I want to point out though that Mayor Liccardo has stated that those who are exempt will be required to fill out the a esta on paperwork. This is not stated in the ordinance. Instead, under 10.32.225, all those who are exempt are exempted from the whole Part (that is the whole ordinance), meaning that they do not have to fill out any paperwork. While I have feeling that the officers will easily find that other officers and CCW holders (as CCW holders are very few and most likely City Officials, the poli cally connected, or the rich, or in the case of Santa Clara Sheriff office: Those who paid for CCW permits with campaign dona ons), if the poor do not have said paperwork, then it puts them in a situa on where the Police Officer has to decide to believe them or think that their lying. This also puts the police officer in a bad situa on, given that depending on how the sta s cs lay out they may be accused of profiling when deciding who to believe about the exemp on and who not to believe.
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3.) 10.32.200(B)(7): Findings on annual gunfire deaths.
In this case we're referring to the report by PIRE, as presented in the Supplemental Memorandum on 1/19/2022:
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I've actually contacted PIRE regarding that report; Drs. Miller, Swedler and Lawrence were very helpful and willing to answer ques ons, and I appreciate that greatly. Further, I'm not an expert in these ma ers, so I cannot judge the validity of the report, but I assume that it was calculated correctly, and I have no reason to doubt the validity of the calcula ons What I do have a concern on is how the Mayor Liccardo has the report used in context. The report shows Table 1 on PDF page 4, which lays out the various deaths and injuries that lead to the 206 annual deaths and injuries by gunfire per year Notable in that is the "Assault/Homicide/Legal Interven on" box Legal interven ons are deaths and injuries caused by Law Enforcement, as confirmed by PIRE. They have assured me that the amount caused by Law Enforcement is a small amount, but could not specify as according to the agreement on access to their data they had to take precau ons to not iden fy specific people I was also assured that the Table 1 numbers were not used for any of the other calcula ons in the report. In the proposed amendments of the ordinance, this specific 206 annual deaths and injuries by gunfire is being incorporated into the ordinance.
Given that law enforcement is exempt from the ordinance, that means that this 206 number should be modified, given the context of the ordinance. I propose one of the following solu ons:
A.) Have PIRE recalculate the general 206 number, excluding Legal Interven ons. Only recalcula ng the general number will not result in iden fica on of persons in the study.
B ) Qualify the findings by saying that it includes Law Enforcement even they're exempt from the ordinance.
C.) Not exempt Law Enforcement, have city kick in an annual fee for each Law Enforcement Officer to the non-profit, while also insuring each officer against accidental gunfire harm the same as the rest of the residents and prohibi ng qualified immunity in civil cases, so that residents can recover damages when necessary.
4.) Where's the report on Insurance Requirements and Es mated Costs? Council Members have asked Mayor Liccardo before about what kind of insurance is needed and how much it costs, and he's only given vague assurances, along with no specific numbers. He took the me to have PIRE do a report on the "Incidence and Cost of Firearm Injuries in San Jose, CA", yet why isn't there a report on how much it will cost for people to meet the insurance mandate? How much will it cost Home Owners and Renters Insurance holders to have a compliant "rider"? How many insurance plans won't cover this at all, as there has been confusion on this point brought up in previous City Council discussions. The only defense that Mayor Liccardo has given is that they've done research before and he'd share his notes with the City Council Not shared publicly, mind you, and not a report The people should know how much this ordinance is going to cost them. Furthermore, the es mated costs should be known before it becomes an ordinance. It's quite expected that insurance companies, finding that San Jose now requires resident gun owners to have insurance mee ng the insurance mandate, may unfairly raise insurance prices on San Jose residents. Without a report establishing what
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A report should be conducted with just as much or more exper se as was done on the PIRE report, so that the residents can be assured as to what can be expected. Otherwise, this ordinance is being passed blind, allowing for possible unrestrained price hikes on San Jose residents.
5.) This ordinance is only a Poli cal Minimum Viable Product at best when it should be a comprehensive plan.
At this point I'm going to talk about whether you should pass this ordinance at all. There are mul ple issues with this ordinance.
A.) Prop 26
Constantly throughout the mee ngs, Mayor Liccardo talks about Prop 26 compliance, and many mes accidentally referred to the fees as taxes; having to correct himself and specify to others that it is not a fee and tax. The ordinance is also structured so that a "fee" goes to fund a "service" that is then returned to those households paying the fee only.
Prop 26 made a number of changes to the California Cons tu on, and in this case, I'll refer to Ar cle XIII C of the California Cons tu on:
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