Sebastopol City Council
April 2, 2024

CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
MINUTES FOR MEETING OF: Tuesday-April 2,2024
MINUTES FOR Regular City Council Meeting of -Aprn2'20U.

As Approved by the City Council at their regular meeting of Aoril16,2024 please note that these are action minutes only. Detailed raw transcript is attached to the minutes and made a part of the public record. These action minutes are the City's record of a summa'ry of actions that took place at the meeting. The vote/action is the required information of the meeting actions that took place. Approved minutes are available on the City Council Meetings page.

Raw Zoom Minutes Attached.

The public is advised that pursuant to Government Code section 54957.5 all writings submitted to the City and City Council are public records and will be made available for review' Daar rlrr f,/laalina ln Cahrc+nna Vnr rlh A nnav z1 1E tr /la;ria Q+raa+ A.lrlfl nm cil Sebastopol. CAy'/irtual Format (Zoom)
Call to Order: Mayor Rich called the Regular Meeting to Order at 6:02 pm Mayor Rich made the following comments: Cease Fire Resolution has been removed from the agenda RollCall:

Present:

Absent:

Staff:

Mayor Diana Rich
Vice Mayor Stephen Zollman
Councilmember Neysa Hinton
Councilmember Sandra Maurer
Councilmember Jill McLewis
None
City Manager Don Schwartz
City Attorney Larry McLaughlin
Assistant City Manager/City Clerk Mary Gourley
Administrative Services Director Ana Kwong
Planning Director Kari Svanstrom
SALUTE TO THE FLAG : Mayor Rich led the salute to the flag.

REMOTE PARTICIPATION UNDER AB2449 (lF NEEDED): To consider and take action on any request from a Council Member to participate in a meeting remotely due to Just Cause or Emergency Circumstances pursuant lo AB 2449 (Government Code Section 549539(f)). None Required'
P ROCIAMATI O N S/P R ES E NTATI O NS :

The following were announced, presented or will be presented at a later date. o presentation
- Year of Service'Award - Douglas Buonaccorsi, Volunteer Fire Fighter for 35 years of Service

. Proclamation - Recognizing Week of the Young Child, April 6-12,2024 o Recognition of National Public Safety Telecommunicators Week (Dispatchers) is April 14-20,2024 (Proclamation to be Presented by the Mayor or Designee at a Later Date) o Proclamation - Recognizing April as Sexual Assault Awareness Month o Proclamation - Proclaiming April as Child Abuse Prevention Month - MOVES (Minimizing Occurrences of Violence in Everyday Society)
Reference Order Number: 2024-056
STATEMENTS OF CONFLICfS OF INTEREST: Conflicts of interest may arise in situations where a public official deliberating towards a decision, has an actual or potential financiat interest in the matter before the Council. ln accordance with state law, an actual conflict of interest is one that would be to the private financial benefit of a public official, a relative or a business with which the Councilmember is associated. A potential confllct of interest is one that could be to the private financial benefit of a Councilmember, a relative or a business with which the Councilmember is associated. A Councilmember must publicly announce potential and actual conflicts of interest, and, in the case ofactual conflict ofinterest, must refrain from participating in debate on the issue orfrom voting on the issue and must remove themselves from the dais.

There were no stated conflicts of interest by City Councilmembers. puBLrc coMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA (FIRST COMMENT PERIOD):

Up to Twenty (20) Minute Time Limit (Two Minutes for up to ten speakers). Additional public comment will be held at the end of the discussionandactionitemsforuptoanadditional twenty(20) minutes. Mayorhasdlscretiontoallowforadditional timebeyondthe20 minutes allocated for public comment dependent upon the subject matter or number of speakers.

Process for calling on Speakers: Mayor or designee shall ask for public comment as follows: Speakers to be called on in an alternate manner (One speaker in person to be called on firsq then one speaker remote to be called on second with additional speakers to be called on in the same manner) based upon the time limit.

The following members of the public spoke during public comment:
o Danielle
o Admin
o Julia
o Robert
o Cynthia
. Sue
o Oliver
o Kate
o Craig
CONSENT CALENDAR: The consent agenda consists of items that are routine in nature and do not require additional discussion by the City Council or have been reviewed by the City Council previously. These items may be approved by one motion without discussion unless a member ofthe City Council requests that the item be taken offthe consent calendar.

The Mayor will read the consent calendar ltems; ask if a Councllmember wishes to remove one or more items from the consent calendar; and then open public comment to the members of the public in attendance. At this time, a member of the public may speak for up to three minutes on the entire consent calendar and request at that time that an agenda item or items be removed for discussion. lf an item or items are removed from the consent calendar, the item shall be placed at the end of the regular agenda items unless otherwise determined by the Mayor or Mayor Pro Tern.

Councilmembers may comment on Consent Calendar items or ask for minor clarifications without the need for pulling the item for separate consideration. ltems requiring deliberation should be pulled forseparate consideration and shall be placed atthe end ofthe regular agenda items unless otherwise determined by the Mayor or Mayor Pro Tem.

Mayor Rich read the consent calendar.

Mayor Rich asked if any Councilmember wanted to remove a consent calendar item

Councilmember's Request(s): There were none.

Mayor Rich opened for Public Comment(s). The following members of the public spoke:
a Linda
Councilmember Hinton requested separate motions for the consent calendar items.

MOTION:

Vice Mayor Zollman moved and Councilmember Maurer seconded the motion to approve Consent Calendar ltem Number 1.

Mayor Rich called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Hinton, Maurer, McLewis, Vice Mayor Zollman and Mayor Rich Noes: None

Absent: None
Abstain: None

1.. Approval of City Council Meeting Minutes for Meeting of March 19, 2024 (Responsible Department: City Administration)
City CouncilAction: Approved City Council Meeting Minutes for Meeting of March 19,2024 Minute Order Number: 2024-057
MOTION:

Vice Mayor Zollman and Councilmember Maurer seconded the motion to approve Consent Calendar ltem Number 2.

Mayor Rich called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Maurer, Mclewis, Vice Mayor Zollman and Mayor Rich Noes: None

Absent: None
Abstain: Councilmember Hinton

2. Approval of Resolution Stating the City's Opposition to AT&T Applications: Relief of "Carrier of Last Report" and Eligible Telecommunications Carrier Designation (Requestor: Councilmember Maurer/Mayor Rich)
City Council Action: Approved Resolution Stating the City's Opposition to AT&T Applications: Relief of "Carrier of Last Report" and Eligible Telecommunications Carrier Designation Minute Order Number: 2024-OSB
Resolution Number: 6579-2024
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS/PRESENTATIONS: lnformotionol ltems or Presentotions ore items that are informotionol only ond do not require oction by the City Council. Presentotions sholl be scheduled as necessory for the promotion of on event or service or generol informotion items to the Council ond should be limited to ten (10) minutes totol in length of item (totol length includes questions of Council to presenter ond public comment).

NONE

PUBLIc HEARING(s):

3. Public Hearing - Canopy Residential Project - To consider a Public Hearing for an application from Samantha Hauser/ City Ventures for a Conditional Use Permit to allow a lOO% residential project within an Office Light lndustrial District; Major Tentative Map to subdivide two parcels into 80 townhome lots, plus common areas; Density Bonus (under State Law and City Ordinance) for increased building height; and, certification of an Environmental lmpact Report under the California Environmental Quality Act requirements. (Responsible Department: Planning)
Planning Director Svanstrom and Associate Planner Jay presented the agenda item recommending the City CouncilAdopt a resolution certifying the Environmental lmpact Report (ElR) pursuant California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and adopt a resolution approving the entitlements for the Conditional Use Permit, Vesting Tentative map for a two-lot subdivision with 80 condominium units and common areas, and Density Bonus for increased building height.

Samantha Hauser/ City Ventures provided a presentation.

Mayor Rich opened for questions from Council. The Council directed questions to staff and the presenter Planning Commission Chair Fritz was in attendance.

The Council asked for questions of the Chair. The Council provided questions to the Chair.

Mayor Rlch opened the public hearing. Canopy Residential Project. The following members of the public spoke at the public hearing:
o Oliver
r Lauren
o Alex
o Kate:
o Emily
o Roberrt
r Calum
o Linda
o Glen
o KYle
o LYnn
o Jim
o Jacob
o Sean
e Gifford
r Sarah
o Troy
r Huck
o Ann
o Seth

o Melissa
o Steve
o Margaret
Hearing no further comments Mayor Rich closed the public hearing.

Citv Council Discussion. Di rection. Del ibrerations
The council discussed the project.

The Council and staff discussed the General Plan comments regarding compliance MOTION:

Vice Mayor Zollman moved and Councilmember Mclewis seconded the motion to approve Adoption of Resolution certifying the Environmental lmpact Report (ElR) pursuant California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and adopt a resolution approving the entitlements for the Conditional Use Permit, Vesting Tentative map for a two-lot subdivision with 80 condominium units and common areas, and Density Bonus for increased building height and as amended by staff:

Mayor Rich called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Hinton, Maurer, Mclewis, Vice Mayor Zollman and Mayor Rich Noes: Maurer

Absent: None
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved Adoption of Resolution certifying the Environmental lmpact Report (ElR) pursuant California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and adopt a resolution approving the entitlements for the Conditional Use Permit, Vesting Tentative map for a two-lot subdivision with 80 condominium units and common areas, and Density Bonus for increased building height and as amended by staff:

Minute Order Number: 2024-059
ResolutionNumber(s): 6580-2024;and658I-2024
REGULAR CALENDAR AGENDA ITEMS (DISCUSSION AND/OR ACIION):

4. Consideration of Request for Waiver of Fees/Staff Time and Materials for the 2024 Apple Blossom Festival. Waiver Request submitted by the Sebastopol Area Chamber of Commerce for a waiver in the amount of 51,4,781..75 (Responsible Department: City Manager; City Clerk) This item wos continued from the March 1"9th 2024 City Council Meeting.

Assistant City Manager/City Clerk Gourley presented the agenda item recommending the City Council Consider the Request for Waiver of Fees/Staff Time and Materials for the 2024 Apple Blossom Festival. Waiver Request submitted by the Sebastopol Area Chamber of Commerce for a waiver in the amounl of 514,781'.75.

Mayor Rich opened for questions from Council. The Council directed questions to staff.

Myriah Volk, Sebastopol Chamber of Commerce, was in attendance and provided comments.

The Council asked questions of the applicant (Chamber of Commerce)' Mayor Rich opened for public comment.

The following members of the public spoke:
o Don
o Ernie
o Kate
e Linda
r Wayne
usston Di
The Council discussed the request for waiver of fees.

The Council asked the Chamber to consider reimbursement to the City if the Chamber has a successful event.

MOTION:

Councilmember Maurer moved and Councilmember Mclewis seconded the motion to approve Waiver of Fees/Staff Time and Materials for the 2024 Apple Blossom Festival. Waiver Request submitted by the Sebastopol Area Chamber of Commerce for a waiver in the amounl of 5L4,781-.75. City staff have indicated the fees can be absorbed within the current Fiscal Year's budget; therefore a resolution for budget amendment is not required.

Discussion:

Councilmember Hinton requested the mover of the motion to consider amendment for the Chamber to bring officially to their board the request to consider paying hard costs back to the City if the event was successful.

There was no amendment to the motion.

Mayor Rich called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote' VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Hinton, Maurer, Mclewis, Vice Mayor Zollman and Mayor Rich Noes: None

Absent: None
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved Waiver of Fees/Staff Time and Materials for the 2024 Apple Blossom Festival.

Waiver Request submitted by the Sebastopol Area Chamber of Commerce for a waiver in the amount of 514,18t.75. City staff have indicated the fees can be absorbed within the current FiscalYear's budget;therefore a resolution for budget amendment is not required.

Minute Order Number: 2024-060
MOTION:

Councilmember Hinton moved and Vice Mayor Zollman seconded the motion to request the Chamber to bring officially to their board the request to consider paying hard costs back to the City if the event was successful.

Mayor Rich called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll callvote.

Discussion

Councilmember Maurer stated she would like to give the money this year without having to have the Chamber return the monies to the City.

VOTE:

Ayes: councilmembers Hinton, Mclewis, Vice Mayor Zollman and Mayor Rich Noes: Councilmember Maurer

Absent: None
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Requested the Chamber to bring officially to their board the request to consider paying hard costs back to the City if the event was successful.

Minute Order Number: 2024-061'

5. Receipt of update on the schedule and evaluation criteria included in the Requestfor Proposals (RFP) document for the new residential solid waste collection and street sweeping services contract. ltem is to request the Council review and provide any recommended changes for inclusion into the RFP (Responsible Department: Assistant City Manager/City Clerk) Assistant City Manager/City Clerk Gourley presented the agenda item recommending the City Council Receive the update on the schedule and evaluation criteria included in the Requestfor Proposals (RFP)documentforthe new residential solid waste collection and street sweeping services contract. ltem is to request the Council review and provide any recommended changes for inclusion into the RFP. The final RFP for approval of release will be returned to a future City Council Meeting.

Garth Schultz, R3 Consulting, was in attendance to answer questions.

Mayor Rich opened for questions from Council. The Council directed questions to staff and the consultant.

Mayor Rich opened for public comment.

The following members of the public provided public comment:
o Robert
o Linda
r lane
ussion. Direction, Deliberations
The Council discussed the ranking and weight.

MOTION:

Councilmember Maurer moved and Councilmember Mclewis seconded the motion to approve the evaluation criteria included in the Request for Proposals (RFP) document for the new residential solid waste collection and street sweeping services contract as amended:

QUALITY OF SERVICE & REFERENCES 18
SUSTAINABILITY 18
SERVICE RATES & VALUE 30
PROPOSED SERVICES, IMPROVEMENTS, & TECHNOLOGY 13
Citv Council Disc

COM MU N ITY EM PLOYMENT & PARTN ERSH IP

COMMUNICATION, OUTREACH, & CUSTOMER SERVICE

FINANCIAL ABILITY & INTEGRITY
TOTAL
8 8
5 100
Mayor Rich called for a roll callvote. City staff conducted a roll callvote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Hinton, Maurer, Mclewis, Vice Mayor Zollman and Mayor Rich Noes: None

Absent: None
Abstain: None
CityCouncilAction: ApprovedevaluationcriteriaincludedintheRequestforProposals(RFP)documentforthe new residential solid waste collection and street sweeping services contract as amended:

QUALITY OF SERVICE & REFERENCES 18
SUSTAINABILITY 18
SERVICE RATES & VALUE 30
PROPOSED SERVICES, IMPROVEMENTS, & TECHNOLOGY 13
COMMUNITY EMPLOYMENT & PARTNERSHIP 8

COMMUNICATION, OUTREACH, & CUSTOMER SERVICE B
FINANCIAL ABILITY & INTEGRITY 5
TOTAL 100
Minute Order Number: 2024-062

6. Consideration of Approvalof Resolution and Contract with St. Vincent de Paul regarding Construction and Operation of the "Gravenstein Commons," located at 850 N Gravenstein Highway byand between the City of Sebastopol and the Society of St. Vincent de Paul District Council of Sonoma, lnc. (Project Homekey) (City Manager)
City Manager Don Schwartz presented the agenda item recommending the City Council the request of approval of Resolution and Contract with St. Vincent de Paul regarding Construction and Operation of the "Gravenstein Commons," located at 850 N Gravenstein Highway by and between the City of Sebastopol and the Society of St.

Vincent de Paul District Council of Sonoma, lnc. (Project Homekey).

Jack Tibbetts, SVdP, made a presentation to the City Council.

Lynda Hopkins provided comments.

Mayor Rich opened for questions from Council. The Council directed questions to staff and the consultant.

Mayor Rich opened for public comment.

The following members of the public spoke during public comment:
r Oliver
o Robert
o Melissa
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Citv Council Discussion.
r Lindsey
o Linda
o Sue
o Kate
o Va n essa
irection. Del iberations
The Council discussed support/non support of the project:

Councilmember Mclewis: Not support
Councilmember Maurer: Not suPPort
Vice Mayor Zollman; Not support
Councilmember Hinton: Support
Mayor Rich: Support
MOTION:

Mayor Rich moved and Councilmember Hinto seconded the motion to approve the Resolution and Contract with St. Vincent de Paul regarding Construction and Operation of the "Gravenstein Commons," located at 850 N Gravenstein Highway by and between the City of Sebastopol and the Society of St. Vincent de Paul District Council of Sonoma, lnc. (Project Homekey) as amended:
ldentification of Staff as approved by the City Manager Mayor Rich called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmember Hinton and Mayor Rich
Noes: Councilmembers Maurer, Mclewis, and Vice Mayor Zollman

Absent: None
Abstain: None
City CouncilAction: Motion Fails
Minute Order Number: 2024-063
Due to Council Protocols, the length of the meeting extended beyond the 11:30 pm ending time and no further action was taken on the remaining items and the meeting was adjourned.

7. Consideration of Suspension of Zoom Virtual Format for City Meetings and Retention of ln Person Only Meetings (Requestor: Mayor Rich; Responsible Department: City Administration) City CouncilAction: No action taken due to length of meeting (Council protocols) Minute Order Number: 2024-064

8. Consideration of Resolution Calling for a Cease Fire (Requestor: Vice Mayor Zollman) This item wos continued from the Morch 19th 2024 City Council Meeting.

City Council Action: No action taken due to length of meeting (Council protocols) Minute Order Number: 2024-065
ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA: Two minutes per speaker for up to twenty (20) minutes total for public comments but can be reduced at Mayor's discretion depending upon the number of speakers or Mayor has discretion to allow for additional time beyond the 20 minutes allocated for public comment dependent upon the subject matter or number of speakers.

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ctTy couNctvctTy STAFF REPORTS/COMMUNTCATTONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/FUTURE MEETINGS:

9. City Manager and/or City Clerk Reports: (This will be either verbal reports at the meeting, or written reports provided at or prior to the meeting)

10. City Council Reports/Committee/Sub-Committee Meeting Reports: (Reports by Mayor/City Councilmembers Regarding Various Agency Meetings/Committee Meetings/Sub-Committee Meeting /Conferences Attended and Possible Direction to its Representatives (lf Needed)on Pending issues before such Boards. ((This will be either verbal reports at the meeting, or written reports provided at or prior to the meeting)
A. EIFD Ad Hoc Committee RePort out
No discussion of item due to length of meeting (Council protocols) Reference Order Number: 2024-066
l-1. Council Communications Received (lnformation/Meetings/Correspondence Received from the General Public to Councilmembers)
CLOSED SESSION: NONE

ADJOURNMENT OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Mayor Rich adjourned the City Council Meeting of April 2,2024 at l"l-:45 pm to the next City Council Meeting of April16,2024.

Clerk
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City Council Meeting - April 2,2024
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ACCORDING -- AS LONG AS THERE'S ENOUGH PEOPLE TO WALK BY. DO YOU WANT ME TO RESEND IT? I AM GOING TO SEND -. I WILL RESEND YOU THE CALENDAR INVITE. DOES THAT WORK BETTER?
LOOKING FOR A THUMBS-UP FROM I.T.. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. GOOD START. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT APPROXIMATELY 6:07 TODAY ON APRIL 2nd. IN QUEUE FOR EVERYONE WHO IS IN THE ROOM AND THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED ON VIA ZOOM. MARY, IF YOU COULD HANDLE THE CALL TO ORDER, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER -- COI.]NCILMEMBER HINTON ? rMRE.

COLTNCILMEMBER MAURER?
HERE.

COUNCILMEMBER MCLEWIS?
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VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN?
F{ERE.

MAYOR RICH?
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AND ruST A REMINDER, I AM HAVING TEXT MESSAGES THAT IT'S STILL HARD HERE SO WE MAY HAVE TO SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH TO MARY GOURLEY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. WE ARE NOW GOING TO DO THE SALUTE TO THE FLAG. IF YOU COULD PLEASE STAND. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE L]NITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC

FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, LTNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND ruSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO EVERYONE, AND WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE HERE. OUR FIRST STEP TODAY IS TO RECOGNIZE ONE OF

OUR EMPLOYEES AND I SEE A NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS HERE IN RECOGNITION OF THIS INDIVIDUAL. AND THEN WE WILL GO INTO A FEW PROCLAMATIONS. I AM SEARCHING

HERE FOR THE PIECE OF PAPER THAT I REALLY WANT MORE THAN ANY, WHICH IS THIS FABULOUS ONE. OKAY. DO WE HAVE DOUGLAS -- LET ME ASK, HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE THIS WONDERFUL LAST NAME? COME ON, SOME FIREFIGHTERS. BUONACCORSI . IS TFIAT CORRECT? DO WE HAVE DOUGLAS BUONACCORSI IN TFIE ROOM? COULD YOU PLEASE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE? WE MIGHT AS WELL SEE YOU, ALONG WITH YOUR CF{IEF THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AS WE ARE READING THIS RECOGNITION. I AM GOING TO

READ IT AND THEN WE WILL INVITE SOME COMMENTS FROM THE CHIEF, WHO UNDOUBTEDLY HAS SOME WONDERFUL THINGS TO SAY ABOUT YOU AND TT{EN A FEW WORDS FROM YOU BEFORE WE MOVE ON. YES, HE'S TRYING TO BE BASHFUL OVER THERE.

OKAY. THIS IS FOR 35 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF SO -- SEBASTOPOL. GENERALLY,

WE TRY TO TELL PEOPLE DON'T BE RESPONSIVE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, BUT THIS IS ONE WHERE WE WANT TO DO THAT. 35 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL AS A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER. CONGRATULATIONS ON REACHING THIS SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE WITH THE CITY. YOUR EFFORT AND DEDICATION AS A VOLLTNTEER IN THE

SEBASTOPOL FIRE DEPARTMENT PLAYS A TREMENDOUS PART IN THE SUCCESS OF THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL. WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE CITY AND TO THIS COMMUNITY. THIS CERTIFICATE IS IN GRATEFUL APPRECIATION OF YOUR 35 YEARS OF VALUED SERVICE AND DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL . ON BEHALF OF THE

CITY COLINCIL, AND TIF'E CITIZENS OF SEBASTOPOL, L DIANA RICH, MAYOR, GRATEFULLY

ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR

CONTINUED SERVICE TO THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL AND TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY. OKAY, COME ON, FOLKS. ALL RIGHT, CHIEF. Pagell of 69 GIVE IT TO HIM. MAYOR, COLINCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW PROUD I AM TO BE HERE TO SHARE

WITH YOU I'VE BEEN SERVING AS YOUR FIRE CHIEF, DOUG, LIKE MANY OF US IN THE FILE - - FIRE SERVICE FOLLOWED AFTER HIS FATHER. I WANT TO SHARE SOME OF TFIE THINGS HIS HAS DONE. HE'S AN EXTRAORDINARY MECHANIC, USUALLY TMRE'S NOTHING THAT HE CANNOT FIX AND SO WE GREATLY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. IN 1999, HE WAS

PROMOTED TO FIRE CAPTAIN AND HERE'S SOME OF THE STATISTICS I COULD TO SHARE WITH YOU. 12 WEEKENDS, 12 WEEKENDS. FRIDAYNIGHT, SATURDAY, SL]NDAY, HE SERVES AS ACTING BATTALION CHIEF TO THE CITY. SINCE BEING IN THE DEPARTMENT HAS SERVED OVER I1,OOO TIMES RESPONDING TO CALLS. I1,OOO TIMES THIS FINE YOUNG MAN STOPS WHAT HE'S DOING TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. I KNEW THAT. ALSO, IT HAS ATTENDED 14OO THURSDAY EVENINGS, DOUG IS THERE. THAT KIND OF LEADS ME TO

SOMETHING I REALLY, REALLY ENJOY ABOUT YOU, DOUG, AS FAR AS WE'VE REFERRED TO HIM AS DOUGIE. DESPITE HIS NUMBER OF YEARS, I{E IS VERY CONTEMPORARY.

REALLY, HIS DESIRE TO GIVE BACK AND TO SERVE AS A TRAINER TO THE YOLINGER

MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT IS TRULY EXTRAORDINARY AND IT MEANS A LOT BECAUSE THE FIRE SERVICE CONTINUES TO FACE C}IALLENGES AND WE NEED TO

PREPARE OUR MEMBERS, THE NEXT GENERATIONS, AND REALLY GET YOUR COMMITMENT TO DOING THAT HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING. SO I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. NOT TO MENTION TTIAT HE IS A MIGHTY FINE COOK. DOUG, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING. YES, AS YOU CAN TELL. DOUG, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
ruST REAL QUICK, TO THE CITY COLINCIL, TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF

SEBASTOPOL, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME HAVE THE OPPORTLINITY TO SERVE AS A FIREFIGHTER. IT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL FOR ME. AND I WON THE MUSTACHE CONTEST, AS YOU CAN TELL. I HAVE TO SHOW IT OFF. BUT THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

I INDISCERNIBLE - MUFFLED ]
THEY WERE TO DO. THANK YOU TO ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS WHO WERE HERE INTO THE STELLAR VOLLTNTEER FIREFIGHTER. GREAT WAY TO START THIS PARTICULAR MEETING. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND TI{AT YOU ALSO FOR ALL OF YOU HERE AND I'M SURE ON ZOO}i4 FOR EXPRESSING YOUR APPRECIATION FOR THESE HARD.WORKING, DEDICATED PEOPLE THAT SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. OUR NEXT STEP IS A SERIES OF PROCLAMATIONS.

IN THE PAST, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS READ FULL PROCLAMATIONS. WE'VE RECONSIDERED

AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS ON THESE FOUR PROCLAMATIONS,I WILL SUMMARIZE THEM. ALSO, IN GENERAL, WE'VE DISTRIBUTED THEM AMONG THE CITY COLTNCIL

MEMBERS, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR ALL OF YOU ON THESE PROCLAMATIONS SO THAT WE CAN TF{EN MOVE IN TO OUR REMAINING FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL CALENDAR TODAY. TTMRE ARE FOUR OF THEM AND THEY ARE REALLY AMAZING. THE FIRST ONE IS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH. THIS IS REALLY THE RECOGNITION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF COMML]NITY AND TNDIVIDUALS WORKING

TOGETHER TO KEEP FAMILIES SAFE AND HEALTHY, RECOGNIZING THAT EVERYONE HAS A

ROLE TO PLAY IN MEETING THAT OBLIGATION AND THAT COMMITMENT, RECOGNIZING THAT HAVING A GREAT CHILDHOOD IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY CHILD DESERVES. BEING RAISED AND HEALTHY, NURTURING HOMES. FREE FROM ABUSE AND NEGLECT.

RECOGNIZING THAT IT'S A PRIORITY TO SUPPORT THE WELL-BEING OF CALIFORNIA'S CHILDREN BY IMPLEMENTING POLICIES THAT SUPPORT THAT. I ALSO WANT TO KNOW TO

THAT THERE IS THE CHILDREN'S MEMORIAL DAY,IT WAS ESTABLISMD BY THE CALIFORNIA ASSEMBLY IN APRIL OF 1997.IT FORMALLY DECLARED THE FOURTH FRIDAY

IN APRIL AS A STATEWIDE ANNUAL OBSERVANCE DAY EVERY YEAR FOR TFIE CHILDREN'S MEMORIAL FLAG TO BE FLOWN. THAT IS OUR FIRST PROCLAMATION. A WONDERFUL ONE.

YES, I WLL PUT MY SIGNATURE ON THAT, WITHOUT HESITATION. THE NEXT ONE IS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH. THAT IS APRIL OF 2024, WHERE WE ARE NOW.

APRIL, THE SEXUAL AWARENESS MONTH REALLY DRAWS ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS WIDESPREAD. IT IMPACTS EVERY PERSON IN OUR COMMLINITY.

THERE'S SOME INTERESTING NUMBERS IN THIS DOCUMENT WHICH IMPRF&EEA}WF. 53% OF WOMEN AND29% OF MEN REPORTED EXPERiENCING SEXUAL ViOLEiiCE N.i TFiEiR.

LIFETIMES. NOT A GENDER SPECIFIC EVENT AND NOT A SMALL PORTION OF OUR POPULATION. WE DEDICATE IN THIS PROCLAMATION A COMMITMENT TO BUILD MORE

CONNECTED, RESPECTFUL, AND INCLUSIVE COMMLTNITIES TO PROMOTE OUR COLLECTIVE WELL-BEING AND PROTECT AGAINST TFIE RISK OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS PROCLAMATION VERY WORTHWHILE. PLEASE TAKE IT TO HEART. THE NEXT ONE IS A NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMLINICATIONS WEEK. OF APRIL I thTO 20.

WE ruST HAD OUR FIREFIGHTERS IN HERE. ONE OF THE AMAZING ELEMENTS OF FIREFIGHTERS AND THE LIVES OF POLICE OFFICERS IS THE DISPATCHERS. THAT SERVE

THEM, THAT GET OUR MESSAGES AND OUR EMERGENCY NEEDS TO THOSE FIRST RESPONDERS. THAT IS WHAT THIS PROCLAMATION IS ABOUT. RECOGNIZING THAT TELE.

COMMLTNICATORS ARE THE TRUE BACKBONE OF OUR 91I SYSTEM AND THE LINK

BETWEEN PEOPLE CALLING FOR FIELP TN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND FIRST RESPONDERS THAT ARRIVE ON SCENE. SO LET'S NOT FORGET THESE AMAZING PEOPLE

WHO WORK EVERY DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR EMERGENCIES ARE RESPONDED TO BY OUR AMAZING FIRST RESPONDERS. THE FINAL PROCLAMATION IS WEEK OF THE YOUNG CHILD, APRIL 6 THROUGH 12 2024. THIS WLL HOPEFULLY PREVENT THE FIRST ONE WE READ, WHICH IS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH. RECOGNIZING REALLY TFIE PEOPLE WHO SERVE IN THE CHILD CARE PLANNING COL]NCIL, WHICH WE ALL APPRECIATE. THE

EDUCATORS AND THE COMMLINITY MEMBERS WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE VALUE AND THE IMPACT OF TFIE LIVES OF YOL]NG CHILDREN. IN THIS PARTICULAR PROCLAMATION, THERE

IS A RECOGNITION OF THE NEED FOR CHILDREN'S SUPPORT IN ORDER TO AMELIORATE THE EFFECTS OF POVERTY, DETECT AND REMEDIATE DELAYS,IDENTIFY AND I{ELP

PREVENT CHILD NEGLECT THAT LEADS TO POSITIVE OUTCOMES FOR INDIVIDUAL

CHILDREN, HELPING THEM TO BETTER PREPARE FOR SCHOOL AND TO BE MORE LIKELY TO SUCCEED IN LIFE. ANOTHER REALLY IMPORTANT PROCLAMATION. ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO

CALL OUT IN THIS PROCLAMATION, A PROVISION THAT RECOGNIZES CHILDCARE PROVIDERS, ESPECIALLY WOMEN OF COLOR WHO ARE SKILLED AND VALUABLE FRONT.

LINE PROFESSIONALS T}IAT RISK THEIR HEALTH TO PROVIDE EARLY CARE AND EDUCATION AND THEY DID THAT DURING OUR GLOBAL PANDEMIC. THEY DESERVE TO BE FAIRLY COMPENSATED. THEY DESERVE OUR RECOGNITION. THOSE ARE OUR FOUR POPULATIONS. I WILL BE SIGNING EVERYONE OF TF{EM AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE IN

THIS ROOM TO TAKE THEM TO HEART AND THINK ABOUT THE WORDS THAT THEY CAPTLIRE AND THE SPIRIT TFIEY CAPTURE. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A STATEMENT OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. DO I SEE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST FROM MY FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS? NO. THEN WE WILL MOVE ON. GENERALLY, WE ARE NOW GOING INTO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. WE WILL HAVE MARY

GOURLEY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER MANAGING THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SHE WILL EXPLAIN TO YOU THE TIME LIMITATION. I WOULD LIKE THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED TO LINE UP AT TI{E PODIUM AND I BELIEVE I ruST SAW SOMEONE GO TO THE

PODIUM BUT I THINK THERE'S A PRE-EXISTING LINED -- LINE THAT YOU'LL NEED TO GET INTO. WE WILL HAVE A PRE-EXISTING LINE, SPEAKING TO THE INDIVIDUAI- WHO ruST CAME UP TO THE PODIUM. IF YOU COULD INSERT YOURSELF WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN, WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN WHEN YOU WALKED UP TO THE PODIUM. AND PLEASE, THANK YOU. IN QUEUE FOR ALLOWING HIM TO STEP IN. I APPRECIATE IT. SO, DO

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE HERE TO SUBMIT THEIR COMMENT ON ITEMS

NOT ON THE AGENDA,I WOULD REMIND YOU ALL THAT IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON

AGENDA ITEMS, ITEMS THAT WE WILL BE ADDRESSING LATER ON, YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTLINITY AT THAT POINT. THIS LIMITED TIME, AS MARY WILL BE EXPLAINING TO YOU. LOOK AT TFM PEOPLE THAT ARE LIGHT UP THERE AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET EVERYONE BUT MARY WILL OUTLINE THAT FOR YOU. WE WILL BE

LOOKING AT OUR APPROACH TO HOW TO MANAGE TFIE INCREASED NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TO US IN THIS SETTING. I WILL ALSO SAY TO

EVERYONE HERE AND I'M LOOKING AT THE PEOPLE IN LINE AND YOU ARE PROBABLY

ALREADY KNOW THIS, PLEASE, IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO SPEAK TODAY OR EVEN IF YOU ARE A MUST SEND YOUR COMMENTS TO [email protected] . THOSE COMMENTS WILL COME TO US AUTOMATICALLY.

THANK yOU, MAYOR. THIS FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ARE FOR ITp$$$fl$fffi AnE NO'I'ON'I'HE AGENDA.IT'S LIMITED TO20 MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF IO SPEAKERS. THAT IS

GOING TO ASSUME FIVE PEOPLE IN THE CHAMBERS AND THEN FIVE PEOPLE OUT AND ZOOMI. WE PROBABLY, ON THIS FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, WILL NOT GET TO ALL THE SPEAKERS. IT IS A TWO-MINUTE. WE TYPICALLY HAVE THE TIMER ON THE SCREEN. IF

YOU CAN'T SEE THE TIMER OR IF YOU ARE INTO YOUR COMMENTS,I WILL JUMP IN WFIEN YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT AND LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT AND AGAIN, 20 MTNUTES FOR THIS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. WE GO TO IN CHAMBERS AND THEN GO OUT TO ZOOM. SO I DO HAVE A FIRST SPEAKER IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.

MY NAME IS DANIELLE AND I AM A RESIDENT OF -- I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR

TONIGHT BUT I AM HERE BECAUSE THE ANGER AND DEVICES AS THAT'S GROWTNG IN THIS COMMUNITY HAS SPILLED OVER INTO MY COMMLTNITY IN SANTA ROSA. TO BE SPECIFIC,

LAST WEEK,I TOOK MY MOM, WHO IS RIGHT THERE, INTO COMMLINITY MARKET IN SANTA ROSA STILL GET PRODUCTS FOR THE UPCOMING JEWISH HOLIDAY OF PASSOVER. THERE

WERE A FEW THINGS, BUT MOST OF THE CRITICAL AND NECESSARY ITEMS LIKE MATZOH HAD BEEN TAKEN OFF THE PUBLIC SHELVES. ACCORDING TO THE EMPLOYEES, THE

SEBASTOPOL LOCATION OF --
I HATE TO INTERRUPT YOU. ruST A MOMENT. WE DO HAVE THE CEASE-FIRE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD.

MOST OF THE NECESSARY AND CRITICAL ITEMS LIKE MATZOH WERE MISSING. FROM THE PUBLIC SHELVES. THEY WERE AVAILABLE BY REQUEST IN AN EMPLOYEE ONLY BACK STOREROOM AREA. ACCORDING TO THE EMPLOYEES, THE SEBASTOPOL LOCATION HAD

RECEIVED SO MUCH NEGATIVE ATTENTION FOR SELLING ANYTHING IN ISRAEL, AGAIN, NOT OF THE CEASE-FIRE. THAT --
RECORDING IN PROGRESS.

THAT MANAGEMENT DECIDED THAT I DIDN'T DESERVE TO SHOP PUBLICLY FOR JEWISH HOLIDAY PRODUCTS TN SEBASTOPOL OR SANTA ROSA. SO LAST WEEK, I FOUND MYSELF

IN THE BACKGROUND OF A COMMUNITY MARKET, MY MOTHER AND IVIY SIDE IN TEARS,

LOOKING AT PASSOVER PRODUCTS THAT WERE MADE IN ISRAEL AND IN THE UNITED

STATES, WHILE HOTTIE PRODUCTS FROM CHINA AND THE UNITED STATES WERE AVAILABLE OUT ON THE REGULAR SHELVES. SO -.

DANIEL, YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS LEFT.

THANK YOU. COMMLTNITY MARKET DID REVERSE THEIR DECISION AND BRING THOSE

PRODUCTS BACKED OUT AND I RESPECT AND THANK THEM FOR THAT, BUT THE FACT THAT THIS HAPPENED AT ALL WAS HORRIBLE. IT FELT HORRIBLE. IT'S CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT THE ANTI.SEMITISM THAT IS GROWTNG HERE IN SEBASTOPOL IS NOT JUST THING IN SEBASTOPOL. WE NEED TO WORK ON THIS COLTNTYWIDE ISSUE, COTINTRYWIDE, WORLDWIDE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'M GOING OUT TO ZOOM. ADMIN, CAN YOU LINMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

HELLO. I THINK I AM L]NMUTE IT.

YOU ARE. YES YOU ARE. CAN YOU SEE TTM TIMER?
I CAN. THANK YOU.

GREAT. GO AFIEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MARY. I WOULD LIKE TO USE THIS OPPORTLINITY TO REQUEST THAT THE COLINCIL CONSIDER DIVIDING MEETINGS INTO TWO CATEGORIES. ONE WOULD BE

PROCLAMATION AND RESOLUTION MEETINGS, AND TFIE OTHER WOULD BE CITY BUSINESS MEETINGS. FOR EXAMPLE, TONIGHT'S MEETING MIGHT HAVE BEEN BETTER SERVED AS A PROCLAMATIONS AND RESOLUTIONS MEETING, INCLUDING THESE ITEMS. THE YEAR OF

SERVICE PRESENTATION, THE RECOGNITION WEEK OF THE YOUNG CHILD, THAT

NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMLTNICATIONS WEEK PROCLAMATION OR

RECOGNITION, RECOGNIZING APRIL AS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH, PROCLAIMING APzuL AS CHILD ABUSE MONTH, THE RESOLUTION STATING THE CITY'S

OPPOSITION TO AT&T APPLICATIONS, RELIEF OF CO LR AND ELIGIBLE CARRIER DESTGNATIONS, THE RESOLUTTONS TO CERTIFYING THE ENVIRONMENT n4&.+ffeEPORT FOR TI{E PROPERTY AT IOI l -- HIGHWAY NORTH, AND CONSIDERATION OF THE RESOLUTION CALLING FOR A CEASE-FIRE. THE APRIL 16th MEETING COULD THEN BE

DESIGNATED A CITY BUSINESS MEETING, AND ALL OTFIER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA COULD BE ADDRESSED THERE. ADOPTING THIS STRATEGY WOULD BENEFIT TWO GROUPS WHO OFTEN FIND THEMSELVES AT ODDS DURING COL]NCIL MEETINGS LINDER THE STATUS QUO. RESOLUTION AREAS, AND THOSE FOCUSED ON FUNDAMENTAL ASPECTS OF CITY GOVERNMENT. IF THE MEETING TYPES ALTERNATED ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND THE

AGENDA FOR EACH WERE STATED WELL WITHIN IN ADVANCE, EACH GROUP WOULD HAVE MORE TIME TO RESEARCH ISSUES AND PREPARE COMMENTS, AND THAT'S IT. I'M NOT GOOD AT READING, BUT THAT IS MY COMMENT FOR THIS MEETING. SO I WOULD

APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER AND TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,

I DO THINK IT WOULD MAKE THINGS RLIN A LOT MORE SMOOTHLY DOWN TFIERE AND I DO

THINK THAT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY STAFF, IN PARTICULAR, TO HAVE MORE TIME TO RESEARCH CERTAIN ISSUES. FOR EXAMPLE, THE HOME KEY PROJECT.

I'M SORRY, THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WILL COME BACK TO IN CHAMBERS.

I AM JULIA FELDMAN. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. IN SEBASTOPOL, WE STAND ON -- LAND.
ruLIA,I'M SORRY, WE WANT TO HEAR YOU. CAN YOU SLEEK CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.

SURE. IT'S ruST TALL. WE STAND ON NATIVE LAND. AS A CD, YOU NOW TREAT THEIR INruSTICES WITH COMPASSION. I AM HERE ASKING FOR YOUR SAME COMPASSION FOR THE JEWISH COMMLTNITY. IN THAT YOU MANDATE, FOR THE CITY AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS

TO HAVE ANTI-SEMITISM IDENTIFICATION AND RESPONSE TRAINING FOR ALL YOUR EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT,I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. ROBERT, CAN YOU LTNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
MAYBE. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I CAN HEAR YOU. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

GREAT. GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE.

OKAY, THANK YOU. TONIGHT, I WANT TO ASK THE COTINCIL TO CONSIDER A NEW DISCPLINE IN SETTING AGENDAS FOR THESE MEETINGS. THE CITY RIGHT NOW HAS FIVE

PRIORITIES, THE CITY MANAGER'S FULL ATTENTION AND THE -- CAN BE DECIDED AND NONE OF THEM ARE THE ON TTM AGENDA. YOU MADE PROGRESS TONIGHT BUT NOT READING ALL THE PROCLAMATIONS, BUT SUMMARIES STILL EAT UP TIME.

PROCLAMATIONS DON'T SOLVE ANY OF OUR CzuTICAL PROBLEMS, THEY JUST BURN UP TIME. MAYBE CONSIDER A 60 DAY MORATORIUM ON A PROCLAMATIONS. WE ARE

SPENDING TIME TONIGHT, CROSSING A LINE HERE BRIEFLY, BUT ON A THIRD MEETING REVISITING ZOOM AND WTIETHER IT'S A GOOD IDEA. WE WERE SUPPOSED BE LOOKING AT THE FIRST PRESENTATION OF BUDGET PRIORITIES AND WHAT THE BALANCED.BUDGET MIGHT LOOK LIKE. IT SEEMS YOU GOT THE CITY MANAGER NOW WORKING ON OTHER PRIORITIES. THE SEWER STUDY HAS NOT YET BEEN PRESENTED. WE ARE COMING UP ON

THE ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE MEETING THAT THE CANCEL WAS INFORMED TFIAT

THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE LAST STUDY AND THEN IT WAS DEFICIENT AND DEFICITS WERE ACCUMULATING. IT'S URGENT BECAUSE THE CITY IS BURNING CASH, THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF. IT'S ALSO URGENT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE THREE

MONTHS WHICH ACTUALLY BRING THIS BACK AND VOTE ON IT FOR THE RATES GOING TO GET FIXED. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED AND ADDRESSED IN THESE MEETINGS. WE RECOGNIZE THE FIREFIGHTER TONIGHT. THAT'S GREAT. WE ALSO GOT APPROVAL FOR MORE MONEY FOR THE FIRE SERVICE. THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE OF GREAT IMPORTANCE AND INTEREST TO THIS COMMLTNITY AND IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO THE AGENDA. WHAT IF WE GET THAT MONEY? NOW WE HAVE THE MONEY. WHAT'S THE PLAN? ARE WE GOING TO CONSOLIDATION? IT'S GOTNG TO TAKE A WHILE TO GET THE PUBLIC USED TO THE IDEA IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO GO. AND A $260 PARCEL TAX IS NOT GOING TO MAKE ANYBODY HAPPY. SO, THAT'S MY COMMENT FOR TONIGHT. THANK YOU p'8&r6I&TIME.

THANK YOU, ROBERT, FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I AM COMING BACK IN CHAMBERS.

CYNTHIA, I LIVE HERE IN SEBASTOPOL ACROSS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL. I WAS HERE LAST CITY COL]NCIL MEETING AND BROUGHT UP THE, I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE

THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE STUDENT BEHAVIOR AND THIEVERY AT

SAFEWAY AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IMPORTANT MY ONE LITTLE VOICES, BUT THE NEXT DAY THE POLICE CHIEF WENT INTO SAFEWAY. NOW, THERE'S LOSS PREVENTION

PROFESSIONALS AT SAFEWAY AND AMWAY HIGH SCHOOL HAS SENT OUT A LETTER TO PARENTS. SO WE ARE NOW PROVIDING THE BOLINDARIES AND CONSEQUENCES THAT OUR TEENAGERS NEED. LAST TIME WAS IVTY FIRST TIME AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND I

WOULD REALLY LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU AND THE STAFF FOR ENDURING THE VITRIOL OF MEN ON ZOOM WHO SEEK TO DISRUPT GOVERNMENT AND SO DIVISION.

SPECIAL THANKS TO THE MAYOR, THE DEFENDER OF DECORUM AND FREE SPEECH.

THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING THROUGH THIS GRIND OF DEMOCRACY. YOU ARE APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU, CYNTHIA, FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. SU CORBALEY, CAN YOU LTNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
I CAN. CAN YOU FIEAR ME?
YES. CAN YOU HEAR THE OCC THE TIMER?
YES I CAN. I APPRECIATE THE RECENT EFFORTS MONITORING AND ENFORCING TRAFFIC

LAWS ALONG MAIN STREET AS IT'S QUITE DANGEROUS FOR PEDESTRIANS ACROSS WITH CARS ZIPPING -- WHILE THEY WAIT PATIENTLY TO CROSS. AS WELL AS FOR BICYCLISTS THAT ARE USING THE BIKE LANES ALONG THAT ROAD. I WOULD MISS THE OTHER DAY A

CAR SEEMINGLY INTENTIONALLY BUMPING A BICYCLE WHO WAS RIGHTFULLY IN THE CROSS,IN THE BIKE LANE AND WITH NO REGARD FOR THE SAFETY OF THAT BICYCLIST.

THE DRIVER JUST SPED AWAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ALSO MAKE EFFORTS TO MONITOR HEALDSBURG AVENUE. I'VE SEEN CARS DRIVE THROUGH

THE FLASHING LIGHTS AS PEDESTRIANS WAIT TO PASS TO CROSS THROUGH AND ALSO,IT WOULD BE GOOD TO MONITOR THE SPEED THAT PEOPLE DRIVE. EYEWITNESS LOUD DRIVING AND FAST DRIVING AT ALL HOURS. THANK YOU, AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

THANK YOU, FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'M COMING BACK IN CHAMBERS.

I'M ACTUALLY -. FOR A CHANGE. WE HAVE TO LIMIT THE LAYERS OF CHAOS GREETED BY SOME COI.INSELORS, PAST AND PRESENT, FOR OUR OVERBURDEN CITIZENS. WE -- FOR 6.2 MILLION, 40% OVER APPRAISED VALUE. .- TO RUN IT FOR 22 INHABITANTS AND THEN EXPECTED OF FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY. THE ROOM OF WHICH IS NOW EMPTY, BECAUSE -- THE SALES TAXE,S. NEGATIVE SOCIAL IMPACT BECAUSE OF THE ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIOR.

WE SPILLED OVER INTO BUSINESSES AND RESIDENCES. THE COLTNTY CDC CODE AND TFIE

INTERSYSTEM MEANS PEOPLE GET PRIORITY FOR THESE FACILITIES, NOT CITY RESIDENTS

IN NEED AND THAT WOULD BE THE FUTURE CASE IF THE PROPOSED -- STILL OCCUPY SAFE PARKING AREA GOES AHEAD. THESE NONPROFIT PROJECTS -- FACILITIES ENCOURAGED BY SOME COUNSELORS AT OUR EXPENSE. WE ARE IN A FISCAL EMERGENCY IN A BUDGET CRISIS, .- A CRISIS. BUT THE CHAOS IMPOSED ON THE COLINCIL, NOW THERE ARE

ATTEMPTS TO SHUT DOWN PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN TFIE CITY MATTERS ON WHICH THE

CITY CLAIMED IS THE -- CORNERSTONE OF OUR COMMLINITY MAINLY BECAUSE COUNCIL

REPEATEDLY ENCOURAGED -- EXTREME VIEWS ON GLOBAL MATTERS WE HAVE NO CONTROL OR INFLUENCE OVER.

OLryER, YOU HAVE ABOUT 25 SECONDS.

WE WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO OUR.. OF OUR CIVIC HOUSE IN ORDER, ALLOWING CITY

STAFF TO DO THEIR JOBS LJNIMPEDED BY TIME-CONSUMING AND CHAOTIC PROJECTS THAT PUT THE CITY AT A GREATER FINANCIAL SOCIETAL RISK ON MULTIPLE LEVELS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. OH AND, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
I UNMUTE IT.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. Pageliof 69
MY -- TO COUNTY FUNDED PROJECTS. SONOMA APPLIED VILLAGES HAS EXITED THE

HORIZON SHINE RV CAMP, YET SEBASTOPOL CITIZENS ARE LEFT WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF HAVING FORMER CLIENTS IN THEIR RVS ON OUR CITY STREETS.

ADRIAN SAID THAT HER CLIENTS WOULD JUST LEAVE WFIEN THE SITE CLOSE. WELL, THEY HAVEN'T. WE ARE LEFT WITH RVs ON OUR STREETS. THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THEM, THEY GOT $1.3 MILLION IN TAXPAYER SERVICES, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANTED. TI{EY WANT TO LIVE IN THEIR RVs FOR FREE ON SEBASTOPOL STREETS. WE ARE STUCK WITH

THAT NOW AND WHERE IS ADRIENNE LAU B, BACK IN -- WHICH HAS ZERO HOMELESS SERVICES AND SERIAL RV AND COLJNTENANCE OF HIS ENCAMPMENTS. WHY ARE SEBASTOPOLCITTZENS LEFT TO DEAL WITH THIS? THIS IS ANOTTIER EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN SEBASTOPOL PUT IN -- IN SEBASTOPOL AND WALKING AWAY. THE SAME WAS TRUE WITH TI{E SEBASTOPOL BARBIE ROBTNSON TOOK AWAY CRUCIAL FACTS -- TAX REVENUE AND MOVED TO TEXAS WITHIN SIX MONTHS. NOT A SINGLE HOMELESS PERSON FROM SEBASTOPOL WAS HOUSED IN THE SEBASTOPOL INN. BUT BUSINESS

OWNERS LOST A TON OF BUSINESS AND HAD TO DEAL WITH SEBASTOPOL CLIENTS PEEING AND POOPING ON THEIR DOORSTEPS. ruST LIKE SUPERVISOR HOPKINS IS

NOWHERE TO BE FOLIND, EVEN THOUGH SHE FLINDED HORIZON SHINE AND THE SEBASTOPOL INN. SHE LTVES WHERE THERE ARE NO RVING CAMERAS AND NO HOMELESS SERVICES. WAS GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE PEOPLE LEFT LTVING ON THE HORIZON SHINE SITE? WHO'S GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBLY FOR THE RV DWELLERS WHO

CREATE HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS FOR RESIDENTS, PEOPLE WALKING TO SCHOOL, AND BUSINESS OWNERS? WHY ARE SEBASTOPOL RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS LEFT HOLDING THE BAG? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KATE, FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'M COMING BACK INTO CHAMBER. THIS WILL BE OUR NINTH SPEAKER. THE NEXT DUAL SPEAKER WOULD BE OUR IOth AND THAT WOULD BE TO THE 20 MINUTES FOR OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT.

GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU. AND PLEASE, IF YOU WILL GIVE ME 32nd OR 15 SECOND CLOSE. MY NAME IS CRAIG LITWIN. I AM A RESIDENT HERE IN SEBASTOPOL, I'M HERE FOR THE VERY

IMPORTANT MATTER OF REPORTING ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED

RECENTLY AND OUR UPCOMING AND I WANTED TO IT, IN PARTICULAR, THINK THE CITY

OF SEBASTOPOL FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THE EASTER EGG HLINTS THAT WE HAD THIS LAST SATURDAY. IT WAS PHENOMENAL. VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN, I WANT TO PRESENT YOU IN PARTICULAR FORGIVING REMARKS AND WELCOMING THE KIDS TO THE ANNUAL EVENT.

THEY HAVE HELD IT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IN A ROW. THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF KIDS. THEY, OF COURSE, CLEANED EVERYTHING UP WITHIN THREE MINUTES. I O:OO, THE -- WENT OFF AND AT 10:03,IT WAS DONE. THROATS WERE THROWING CANDY, WIRELESS -- THERE WAS ALSO SOME EXCITING TWIST THIS YEAR. WE DID HAVE THE EASTER BUNNY, OF COURSE, LIKE USUAL. BUT TFIERE WERE CARROTS IN THE GROLTND THAT SOME THE KIDS FOLIND. ACTUAL CARROTS THAT WERE RIGHT IN THE GROUND. ONE OF THOSE

CARROTS WAS GIVEN TO THE EASTER BTINNY AND I HEARD THE LITTLE KIDS SAY I JUST LOVE YOU SO MUCH. IT IS ONE OF THE SWEETEST THINGS I'VE SEEN. I'M COPRESIDENT AND I AM HONORED THAT WE THROW THIS EVENT EVERY YEAR. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY DID IT, EVEN THOUGH I WAS HUNTING AS A KID IN THIS TOWN. I ALSO DIDN'T KNOW T}IAT THEY THROWS THE THIRD OF JULY FIREWORKS SHOW EVERY YEAR, WHICH IS OUR MAJOR FUNDRAISER THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING HERE ONCE AGAIN.

AGAIN, SEBASTOPOL, THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US TO HELP ON THE EVERYTHING.

FROM THE POLICING IN THE FIRE AND THE OVERSIGHT. IT'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THAT FAMILY EVENT. IT'S A PARTNERSHIP. 50 ODD YEARS NOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS WITH THE CITY AND THE HIGH SCHOOL WHO HOST IT. SO IT'S THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS COMING TOGETHER. ON TOP OF THAT, IT'S AN ALCOHOL FREE EVENT. ruST A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR SOME LEVITY AND APPRECIATION, WE THANK YOU DEEPLY.

THANK YOU, CRAIG, FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER

FOR ZOOM, AND THEN AFTER THAT, PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE CLOSED FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. I HOPE I AM PRONOLTNCING THIS NAME CORRECTLY. MORDECAI? I'M SORRY. MORDECAI, CAN YOU LINMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE? Page17 of 69 FORGIVE ME, COLINCIL, JUST HITTING TI{E LINMUTE BUTTON THERE. OH GOD. ruST ONE SECOND HERE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, HOW ARE YOU?
SIR, YOU GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, PLEASE.

OR A -- AS YOU ARE AWARE, MY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT OF 109 NATIONS

BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF POISONING THE WELL, COIN CLIPPING, HAVING

SEX WITH CHILDREN, LENDING MONEY WITH OBSCENE INTEREST, MONOPOLIZING THE MEDIA, AND EATING -. AND I'M SO SICK OF BEING ACCUSED OF THESE CRIMES. JEW AFTER JEW AFTER JEW HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE HATE SPEECH. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DEAL -- BECAUSE -- WITHOUT HIM COMPLAINING AND CALLING ME A DIRTY JEW. THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ALLOWED TO SAY THE WORD JEW. CLEARLY STATES THAT I CAN -.

WITHOUT BEING INTERRUPTED BY A FILTHY GOY.

THIS IS DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT AND I WILL REMIND EVERYONE IN THE ROOM THAT OUR

POLICY HERE IS TO GIVE INDIVIDUALS A WARNING WFIEN THEIR SPEECH CROSSES THE LINE FROM FREE SPEECH, WHICH IS OPINIONS INTO DISRUPTIVE SPEECH. ALSO, ASK ALL OF YOU TO BE PATIENT AND QUIET AND RECEPTIVE AS PEOPLE EXPRESS TF{EIR OPINIONS, WHETHER WE AGREE WITH THEM OR NOT. I WILL KEEP A TRACK ON WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE. SO MARY, IF YOU COULD PLEASE WARN THE INDIVIDUAL AND MORDECAI, WE WILL

BE GIVING YOU A WARNING AND THEN YOU WILL BE ALLOWED TO COMPLETE YOUR

REMAINING TIME AND CUT YOU OFF IF FOR ANY REASON YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO COMPLY WITH OUR RULES OF DECORUM FIERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WELL, YOU CAN CUT ME OFF, BUT LISTEN, I'M GOING TO READ FROM MY.. AND IF YOU CUT ME OFF, YOU ARE CRITICIZING RELIGIOUS SPEECH. SPECIFICALLY STATES A MAN

WHO ENGAGED IN INTERCOURSE WITH A GIRL LESS THAN THREE YEARS OF AGE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG. THIS IS WHAT MY JEWISH -- IT SAYS. IT ALSO SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO HAVE 28OO SLAVES WHEN TI{E MESSIAH COMES. AND IT SAYS THAT THE NON-27,TTTEY ARE NOT HUMAN. THEY ARE BEASTS. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY FIND THIS OFFENSIVE BUT THIS IS MY ONLY LAW.

MORDECAI, THAT IS TWO MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ACCUSED, MARY.

THANK YOU. AND, AGAIN. FREE SPEECH CAN BE LINCOMFORTABLE IF WE RESPECT FREE SPEECH RIGHTS AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE IN THE UNITED STATES. WE NEED TO JUST

LET PEOPLE SPEAK THEIR TRUTH, SO LONG AS THEY ARE NOT VIOLATING OUR RULES AND GOING INTO DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT. THANK YOU, EVERYONE ON ZOOM AND HERE IN THE

ROOM FOR BEING PATIENT AND FOR ALLOWING US TO NOW GET ON WITH OUR REGULAR BUSINESS OF THE CALENDAR. THANK YOU, MARY. IN TERMS OF OUR, -- PUBLIC,

WE ARE DONE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT IN TERMS OF ITEMS NOT IN THE PUBLIC ON THE AGENDA.

CAN YOU LET PEOPLE KNOW WHEN THE NEXT OPPORTLTNITY FOR THE PUBLIC,?

SO WE HAVE THE NEXT, IT COMES AFTER THE DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS TOWARDS THE END OF THE MEETING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE NOW GOING INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. I NOTICED THAT IT SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE WARM IN THE ROOM. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN ADruST THE TEMPERATURE TO COOL IT DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT? WE HAVE ONE LADY WHO IS LIKE WAVING A A LOT HAPPENING. SORRY. NO, PLEASE. DO NOT APOLOGIZE. WE ARE GOOD. THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO TRY AND COOL THINGS DOWN. THIS NEXT ITEM IS AN ITEM ON THE CANOPY PROJECT AND I THINK KNOW? WE HAVE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS.

ALL RIGHT. LET ME, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GIVE ME A MINUTE THERE. THERE IT IS.

THE NEXT TOPIC ON OUR AGENDA IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ONE IS APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF MARCH 19th AND THE OTHER IS A RESOLUTION STATING THE CITY'S OPERATTVES AND TO AT&T'S APPLICANTS A, WHICH IS THE CARRIER OF -- DESIGNATION. WOULD ANYONE ON THE COLTNCIL LIKE TO PULL EITHER OF THESE ITEMS? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I THINK WE

GO OUT TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE, TFIE PUBLIC COMMENT IS SOLELY ON THESE TWO ITEMS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. FOR CLARIFYING THAT. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONLY. IF YOU LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC CoMpdda},if,oFlbr

CONSBN'I' CALENDAR ITEM NUMBER ONE OR NUMBER TWO, AGAIN, I'LL GO TO IN CHAMBERS FIRST. PUBLIC COMMENT IS TWO MINUTES AND THEN I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS? SEEING NONE, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

YES, I HAD MY HAND RAISED FOR NONPUBLIC AGENDA ITEMS. I WLL PUT THAT DOWN.

MY APOLOGIES.

NEXT WE WILL GO TO LINDA. LINDA, YOU CAN LINMUTE, PLEASE. THERE YOU GO, LINDA, CAN YOU GO AFIEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE?
I ruST LIKE TO -- I APPRECIATE YOU. MY APPRECIATION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO THEIR OPPOSITION TO THE AT&T APPLICATION. TO TRY AND GET RID OF COPPER WIRES. I AM

RELIANT ON A LANDLINE PHONE AND ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY FORTLINATE HERE, MANY OF US ARE BECAUSE WE HAVE FIBER OPTICS -- AND SONIC.NET, WHICH IS ruST TI{E BEST SERVICE PROVIDER THAT I'VE EVER HAD. YOU KNOW, REAL PERSON SPEAKS ENGLISH. ANSWERS THE PHONE MOST OF THE TIME WHEN YOU CALL WITH AN ISSUE. SO ANYWAY. THAT'S ABOUT IT. WE NEED TO OPPOSE AT&T, TG ANY, A LOT OF THESE BIG TELECOMS TFIAT ARE TRYING TO DO US IN. -' CRITICAL THAT WE -- ABILITY, IN THE INSTANCE OF EMERGENCIES AND ALL OF THE TIME SO I THINK THE COI.INCIL FOR DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

IS THAT YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, LINDA?
THAT'S IT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I WILL COME BACK TO IN CHAMBERS. IF TFIERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, I WILL GO BACK TO SOON. IS THERE ANYONE I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. THE NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSE.

THE BRANCH. WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO TIIE COLTNCIL TABLE. ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING THESE ITEMS? THESE CONSENT ITEMS? THEN I AM LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE ITEMS.

I MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS.

I WILL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. COUNCILMEMBER HINTON? CAN I MAKE A POINT. I LIKE TO TAKE THESE ITEMS SEPARATELY, PLEASE.

THAT'S FINE. SO, MARY GOURLEY, COULD YOU CALL TFIEM SEPARATELY? OKAY, SO THE FIRST, SO HE IS .. SORRY. VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN AND COUNCILMEMBER

MAURER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO DO ITEM NUMBER ONE FIRST AND THEN ITEM NUMBER TWO SECOND?
SURE.

SO MOVED BY VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED BY COLINCILMEMBER MAURER

TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE MEETING MINUTES FROM MARCH 19th. COTINCILMEMBER HINTON?
AYE.

COUNCILMEMBER MAURER?
AYE.

COLTNCILMEMBER MCLEWI S?
AYE.

VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN?
AYE.

MAYOR RICH?
AYE.

OPPOSITION TO -- CARRIER OF LAST REPORT AND ELIGIBLE TELECOMMLTNICATION CARRIER DESIGNATION. COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
I WIL ABSTAIN ON THIS ONE. THANKS .

COLTNCILMEMBER MAURER?
YES.

COLINCILMEMBER MCLEWIS?
YES.

VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN? Pagelgof 69
YES.

MAYOR RICH?
YES.

MOTION PASSES, 4-1, WITH COLINCILMEMBER HINTON ABSTAINING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO MARY GOURLEY. WE ARE NOW MOVING INTO TFIE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE ONE THIS EVENING, AND THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR CALENDAR AGENDA ITEMS. OUR PUBLIC HEARING, I THINK WILL LIKELY BE PRESENTED BY THE STELLAR JOHN J FROM OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS ON THE CANOPY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. TO CONSIDER A PUBLIC HEARING OR AN APPLICATION IS LEAVING. PUBLIC APPLICATION FROM SAMANTHA HAUSER, FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW 1OO% RESIDENTIAL PROJECT WITH AN OFFICE LIGHT

INDUSTRIAL -- MAJOR TENTATIVE MAP TO DECEPTIVE SIDE'- SUBDIVIDE, DENSITY BONUS

LTNDER STATE LAW AND CITY ORDINANCE FOR INCREASED BUILDING HEIGHT AND

CERTIFICATION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT LINDER THE CALIFORNIA

ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT I'M SPEAKING SLOWLY BECAUSE OUR PRESENTER HAS NOT YET RETURNED.

SO -- WHAT SHE START US OFF, AS WELL.

OKAY. LTNDER THE QUALITY ACT REQUIREMENTS. WE WILL HAVE KARI SVANSTROM PRESENTING ON ZOOM, ONE MOMENT, KARI.

FOR PURPOSES OF TIMING, IS THIS GOING TO BE TIME, AND IF SO, FOR HOW MANY MINUTES?
SO, KARI SVANSTROM, DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF THE AMOUNT? SURE. SO I THINK JOHN'S PRESENTATION IS ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AND WE FIAVE ASKED THE APPLICANT TO ADHERE TO THE COLINCIL POLICY. OF,I BELIEVE IT'S 10 MINUTES OR LESS. THIS IS A FAIRLY COMPLEX PROJECT SO I DID JUST WANT TO DO A QUICK OVERVIEW. WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, MAYOR RICH? NO, THAT'S FINE. PLEASE MOVE AHEAD.

OKAY, GREAT. JUST TO KICK US OFF, I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND

BECAUSE THERE'S SIGNIFICANT STATE LAW RELATED TO HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. INCLUDING THIS ONE. WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME QUESTIONS FROM COLINCIL

ALREADY, AS WELL AS WITH OUR PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN WE HAVE THE HEARING FOR THIS PROJECT THERE. THIS PROJECT IS A PROJECT THAT IS INCLUDED IN OUR ADOPTED GENERAL PLAN HOUSING ELEMENT. IT IS ADOPTED IN THE SITE INVENTORY, AS A SITE APPROPRIATE FOR AN 80 LINIT PROJECT. THAT WAS REVIEWED BY BOTH PLANNING COMMISSION AND ADOPTED BY TI{E CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 3Td. GIVEN THAT, THIS IS

NOW THE PROJECT DETAILS AND THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, HAT TRICK DESCRIPTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU FOR REVIEW OF THE ENTITLEMENTS. THOSE ENTITLEMENTS, AS MAYOR RICH NOTED , HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND WE DO HAVE OUR PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR, PAUL FRITZ HERE TONIGHT. IF HE'S NOT IN THE ROOM ALREADY, HE IS CLOSE BY ON HIS WAY DOWN ON HIS BICYCLE. AND I HAVE ASKED HIM TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS, JUST ABOUT THE DELIBERATIONS.

KARI SVANSTROM, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT HE IS PRESENT IN THE ROOM, WHEN YOU ARE READY TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

PERFECT. THANK YOU. SO THAT PROJECT ENTITLEMENTS, AGAIN, MOST OF THEM WOULD ACTUALLY BE REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. A SUBDIVISION DOES REQUIRE CITY COL]NCIL REVIEW, WHICH IS WHY IT'S COMING TO YOU. BUT THE PLANNING

COMMISSION DID ADOPT A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORTING THE PROJECT AND RECOMMENDING IT TO YOU. I DO WANT TO PUT ALL THE OPTIONS BEFORE THE COLTNCIL ARE DESCRIBED AS SUCH. I KNOW OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS HERE, AS WELL, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AS THE HOUSING PROJECT, THAT IN THE ADOPTED PLAN. TFIE OPTION TO

DENY THE PROJECT WOULD NEED TO HAVE A -- OF EVIDENCE THAT THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES. IF TFIAT SOMETHING THE COLINCIL DELIBERATE ON, WE WILL MOVE INDEFINITE WITH THE STAFF COUNCIL ON THAT.

HOWEVER, AS NOTED, THE PLANNING COMMISSION LTNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED THIS. SO,

WITH THAT, I WILL TURN THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION AND REPORT OVER TO JOHN J ,

FOLLOWED BY THE APPLICANT, THEN OUR PLANNING COMMISSION TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT TFIE COMMISSION'S DELIBERATIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I JUST WANTED TO INTERRUPT FOR A MOMENT. GENERALLY, WE WOULD TURN TO THE CITY MANAGER. IS THERE ANYTHING ON THIS TOPIC THAT YOU NEED TO SAY BEFORE WE MOVE ON?
THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OFF TO YOU, JOHN J.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I WANT TO BRTNG UP MY PRESENTATION HERO QUICK. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS THE CANOPY PROJECT, WHICH IS AN 80 UNIT TOWNHOME -- AT TFIE NORTH END OF TOWN AT -. HIGHWAY NORTH. TFIE -- I WANTED TO GO OVER THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT. SO SORRY. AS NOTED, THE PROJECT ENTITLEMENTS INCLUDE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR I OO% RESIDENTIAL IN THE OFFICE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE. A SUBDIVISION OF LAND, A DENSIry BONUS FOR INCREASED BUILDING HETGHT FROM THREE STORIES AND UP TO 40 FEET. THE

PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES A CERTIFICATION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT OR EIR, PURSUANT TO CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT GUIDELINES. SO WHAT IS AN EIR AND IT'S SCOPE? IT STUDIES THE IMPACTS A PROJECT MAY HAVE ON ITS

ENVIRONMENT, AND IF NEEDED, PROVIDES MITIGATIONS TO REDUCE THE LEVEL OF IMPACT FROM SIGNIFICANT TO LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT. I WILL READ THROUGH ALL OF THESE, -- PUBLIC UTILITY SYSTEMS. BEFORE A FORMAL APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED. I DON'T REALLY NOTE THAT OUT OF THOSE, THE APPLICANT }MARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK

FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM BOTH OF THOSE BOARDS, WHICH WAS ON SOME OF TFIE PARCELS THERE. THEY DID ADDRESS THE NUMBER OF TREES BEING REMOVED, ENHANCING THE PROPERTY LINES, INCLUDING MORE 88 UNITS, AND POTENTIALLY HAVING A.D.A. ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS TO ADD INCREASE FLEX ABILITY. THERE WAS THE FORMAL APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED ON NOVEMBER 9th, 22 -- MARCH 6 OF 23,

WHICH IS HELD WITH THE PUBLIC TO GATHER INPUT ON WHAT CRTTERIA THE EIR SHOULD LOOK AT THAT WAS HELD ON ruLY l9th. ON DECEMBER 7th OF 2O23,TT'F. DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT WAS MADE PUBLIC FOR A 45 DAY COMMENT PERIOD, AND

DURING THAT COMMENT PERIOD,IT WAS HELD IT IS AT A REGULARLY SCHEDULED DISCUSSION MEETING ON JLrNE THE 23rd. MARCH l2th OF 24,THE FINAL EIR WAS

PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHERE THEY APPROVED THE RESOLUTION TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL CERTIFIED BIT EIR. SO THE FINAL EIR AND THE CITY COUNCIL RESPONSIBILITIES. THE FINAL CONSIST OF RESPONSES TO COMMENTS FROM THE JANUARY 23Td MEETING AND MAILED IN OR EMAILED COMMENTS. EITHER REPORTS WERE

MADE AND ALSO INCLUDES A MITIGATION MONITORING REPORTING PROGRAM AND THAT

TASK CERTAIN APARTMENTS IN THE CITY ON IMPLEMENTING THOSE MITIGATION MEASURES. TTIE CITY COLINCIL AUTHORITY.- ATTACHES A RESOLUTION TONIGHT THAT WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CEQA GUIDELINES. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THIS PROJECT BE APPROVED FOR THAT CITY COUNCIL, T}IEY MUST FIND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, ZONING ORDINANCE, AND CEQA GUIDELINES FOR EIR. AS KERRY

MENTIONED, -- AS KARI MENTIONED, -- AS ATTACHED IN THE STAFF REPORT, OR DIRECT

STAFF TO MAKE REASONS FOR DENIAL AND CONTINUED THE MEETING TO A DATE CERTAIN. I WILL CONCLUDE MY STAFF REPORT. I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT KATIE

GREEN FROM -- CONSULTANTS, WHO DEVELOPED THE EIR IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS STEVE WEINBERGER,IF THERE ARE ANY TRAFFIC RELATED QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU SAID THAT THE APPLICANT WAS PRESENT AND WAS HOPING TO DO A PRESENTATION ALSO?
CORRECT.

OKAY. LET'S CHECK WITH THE COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS AT THE MOMENT? COLTNCILMEMBER McLEWIS? NO? OKAY, TFIEN LET'S MOVE ON. ONCE HIS PRESENTATION IS GOING ON, WILL GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SO PLEASE, JOHN, IF YOU COULD PROCEED WITH THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. SHOULD BE COMING UP TO THE DAIS RIGHT NOW. CAN WE MAKE SAMANTHA HAUSER A CO-HOST SO SHE CAN SHARE HER PRESENTATION? I CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]
THIS CITY COL]NCIL TEND TO LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE PRESENTATION IS GOING OUT TO DO NOT BE SURPRISED IF YOU ARE QUESTIONS FROM US. Page2l of 69

GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL CREDIBLY HONORED TO BE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE CANOPY PROJECT. LITTLE CONTEXT ABOUT WHO WE ARE. WE ARE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPERS. UNSUSTAINABLE FRONT, WE DO SOME OF THE TYPICAL THINGS WITH EXPECT LIKE SOLAR, ELECTRIC, EV CHARGING.

APPLIANCES. WE ALSO REALLY FOCUS ON CREATIVE SOLUTIONS AS WELL. DESIGNING

CREATIVELY TO USE THE -- CREATTVE WATER PLANNING LIKE USING COLLECTORS ON THIS PROJECT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IN THAT REGARD BUT IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR CURRENT CLIMATE IT IS IMPORTANT TO THINK CREATIVELY. AS

DEVELOPERS, ALL OF OUR PROJECTS LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT ORGANIZING A PLEA,

SCALE, STRUCTURALLY PRETTY THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE WE ARE NOT THE FIRST ONES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT CONTEXT IS IMPORTANT.

I WILL ASK YOU TO SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER. THANK YOU PRTNCIPAL YES. WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT FOR A LONG TIME. WE STARTED WORKING WITH THE CITY IN 2OI8 AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THE LAND-USE. THIS ALLOWS 153 HOMES. AN ORIGINAL APPLICATION FOR IO3 HOMES. IN 2019, WE DID A LOT OF WORK AT THE COMMI.INITY. DESIGNED THE STUDY SESSION. ALL OF THE STAFF MEETINGS. WE

HEARD A LETTER -- A LOT OF DIFFERENT POINTS OF FEEDBACK AND HER THINGS START TO EMERGE. TI{E ONE THING WE HEARD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT 103 HOMES WERE TOO MANY FOR THIS SITE. THEY WANTED US TO MOVE THE BUILDINGS FOR LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY LINE. WE ALSO HEARD THAT SEBASTOPOL HAS A SENIOR POPULATION.

THAT IS A POPULATION WE WANTED TO CONSIDER ON THIS PROJECT. WE }IEARD A LOT ABOUT THE NEED FOR ENTRY-LEVEL HOUSING AND ABOUT SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN. WE

TOOK THOSE THEMES AND A LOT OF THE OTHER PIECES OF FEEDBACK, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT. WE WERE TO COALESCE
. RECKLESS STAFF WITH THE SITE PLAN. WE FOLLOWED THE HOUSING ELEMENT PROCESS AND PARTICIPATED IN THAT. I'M REALLY PLEASED TO BE HERE TONIGHT CLOSING 80

HOMES ONE THIRD OF WHICH ARE ADA ACCESSIBLE TO SENIORS WITH VERY LOW MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS. THE EARLIEST, IT IS OVER 80% A.D.A. ACCESSIBLE. WE DESIGN IS WITH FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS AND FAMILIES IN MIND. THOSE ARE GROUPS THAT DESERVE TO ENTER TF{E HOUSING MARKET. WE WERE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE PLANNING RECOMMENDATION PLANNING LAST MONTH. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT STAFF, PARTICULARLY JOHN AND KARI HAVE DONE OVER THE PAST SIX YEARS.

RESPECTFULLY ASK CITY COLINCIL FOR APPROVAL. I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH

THE SITE CONTEXTUALLY SO I WILL NOT GO TOO DEEPLY INTO THAT BUT WHAT I REALLY

LIKE ABOUT THIS SITE IS HOW ACCESSIBLE IT IS FOR THERE ARE A FEW BUST LINE THAT SERVES THE SITE. ACCESSING NOW WITH AN WALKING DISTANCE FROM TWO LOCKING PARKS AND FROM DOWNTOWN. IT IS ADJACENT TO THE WEST COUNTY TRAIL. AND IT IS LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE TWO -- SERVICES. AND TFIE WALK ABILITY REALLY KIND OF INSPIRED HOW WE LOOKED AT THE SITE. FROM HIGHWAY 116, YOU CANNOT SEE THE SITE VERY MUCH BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES. THERE ARE COUPLE OF SPACES WTMRE THE TREES ARE NOT AS THICK. I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN. ON THE TOP LEFT, YOU WILL SEE WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE CURRENTLY. THIS IS A SITE FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES FROM THE 1940S THROUGH WINTER RILEY DID TTMIR EIR FOR OUR OFFICE AND WAREHOUSES. AND IT WAS MOSTLY UNDERUTILIZED SINCE THEN. THAT BRINGS ME TO THE SITE PLAN. WE SPENT A LOT OF

TIME ON ORIENTING HOMES IN AREAS WITHOUT WOULD BE RESPECTFUL OF THE

PROPERTY LINES THAT I WILL HIGHLIGHT THOSE KNOW SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THOSE EXIST. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IN AS MANY PLACES AS POSSIBLE, WE

COULD DECIDE ALONG THOSE PROPERTY LINES AND PULL BACK THE BUILDINGS TO BE EXCEEDING TWO AND THREE TIMES IN EXCEEDANCES OF THE SETBACKS. THAT LED TO SOMETHING REALLY COOL HAPPENING HERE. THAT WAS A LOT OF OPEN SPACE. THIS IS A SITE THAT ALLOWS FOR 40% LOT COVERAGE WHICH IS KIND OF WHERE WE STARTED IN 29 TEAM. WE WILL ABLE TO REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 26%. WE WERE ABLE TO INCLUDE TT{E OPEN SPACE HERE. THERE IS A 4OOO SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT AND THERE AT 2.9 ACRES. THAT IS IN EXCEEDANCES OF 40 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF USABLE GROLIND OF

WHAT THE CITY REQUIRES BUT THAT IS NOT INCLUDE DECKS ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF HOMES. THAT rS ANOTHER -- FEET OF OPEN SPACE BEEN AND THIS WAS B&UbIJdOCUSED IN ON KEEPING TREES WITH PRESERVATION AND BUFFERING PURPOSES. WANTED TO CREATE A SENSE OF PLACE, A SENSE OF HOMECOMING. SO WE REALLY FOCUSED A LOT OF ATTENTION ON THESE AMENITIES. THERE IS REALLY BEAUTIFUL OAK WHEN WE ENTER THE SITE COULD WE PUT A LOT OF AMENITY SIZES IN AND AROLTND THIS AREA. EARLIER THIS YEAR, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEIR RECOMMENDATION. AND WE HAD A SECOND OPEN SPACE WHICH I THINK IS PRETTY COOL. IT IS A GARDEN LINDERNEATH THE TREES. THERE IS A CHILTON'S PLAY AREA. WE HAVE THINGS LIKE CLIMBING -- WE WANTED TO KEEP THE ORGANIC FEEL OF THE SITE. AND THEN WE WERE HOPING TO, WHAT WAS PROPOSED IS PUBLIC PROPERTIES THROUGH TF{E SITE. SO PLANTING TREES ALONG AND OPENING THOSE UP TO THE PUBLIC. THAT KIND OF URBAN AGRICULTURAL FIELDS THAT EXIST TODAY IS CARRIED THROUGH AND KIND OF HONORED. WE ALSO WANTED TO BOLSTER AND CREATE NEW CONNECTIONS TO THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY. WITH

THE WEST TRAIL AND -- ON THE WEST COUNTY TRAIL ASIDE, WE ARE WIDENING THE TRAIL SO THAT BICYCLES CAN ACTUALLY USE THE SITE TO GO THROUGH IT. WE HAVE PUT A STATION ruST ADJACENT TO THE TRAIL ON THE PROPERry. THAT WAY, IT IS OPEN

TO THE PUBLIC WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING CONNECTIONS FROM THAT ACCESS IN THE WEST COUNTY TRAIL OUT TO 16 TO FORMALIZE A PACT THAT DOES NOT EXIST TODAY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE WALKING TO TFIE PARKING LOT. AND THEN I KNOW THAT THE ARCHITECTURE IS REALLY A DIB AREA. BUT I WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON SOME OF THE IMAGERY THAT INSPIRED TFIE WAY THE PROJECT IS DESIGN. SO SOME OF THOSE TRADITIONAL CLEAN LINES HAVE A LOT OF ARTICULATION. THE ROOFS. AND REALLY TRYING TO BE OFF OF THE ORGANIC AND NATURAL FUSE. THE THING THAT REALLY SPEAK TO YOU WHEN YOU COME TO THE SITE IS A LANDSCAPING. THE EXISTING TREES WE ARE PLANTING 140 NEW TREES IN ADDITION. POLLINATOR GARDENS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK WILL REALLY BE THE HIGHLIGHT OF THIS PROJECT. AND THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE THREE ELEVATIONS YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM. THERE IS A LOT OF TREE BUFFER ON THIS SITE. ONE THING WE DID AND I MENTIONED WAS HOME SO

THEY ARE CITING ALONG PROPERTY LINES BUT ON THE THIRD FLOOR, WHICH INCLUDED HIGH WINDOWS SO LIGHT CAN COME IN, BUT WE CANNOT SEE OUT FROM THE WINDOWS. I

WILL END ON THE LANDSCAPING SITE BUT I MENTIONED HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVE AND PASSIVE SPACES BUT WE TRY TO DO THINGS ACROSS DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT TI{E COLLECTORS BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE. WITH THAT, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR TIME AND VERY HONORED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE FABRIC OF YOUR STUDY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH BUT WE WILL KEEP YOU UP THERE FOR A FEW MINUTES. JOHN J., TO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM OUR PLANNING COMMISSION OR SHOULD WE GO TO QUESTIONS NEXT?
I THINK WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AND THAT IS FINE.

GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LOOKING AT THE COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE COUNCILMEMBER MAURER WITH HAND RAISED.

THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A VISUAL IMPACT DRAWING OF WHAT TI{E ENTIRE PROJECT

WLL LOOK LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM THE -- I KNOW YOU HAVE SHOWN A FEW

INDIVIDUAL, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YES, I CAN PROVIDE THAT.

NOT ruST FROM THE BACK.

ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS FENCING. I HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES. THERE WE GO. SO THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THIS SITE. THERE WAS NOT A SIDEWALK. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE SO

YOU GET CONTEXT ON SCALE BUT I THINK WFIEN IT IS LOADING, IT IS KIND OF HARD TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. YOU ALSO HAVE, I AM GOING TO NAVIGATE. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT PEOPLE IN THE CHAMBER, PLEASE SIT DOWN SO WE CAN SEE THE SCREEN. WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. TFIANK YOU, DENNIS. YES, I UNDERSTAND.

OH, GO AHEAD.

I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THERE WERE BUILDINGS -- ruST TWO? SO THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS IF WE ARE TAKING A VIEWPOINT FROM THE RIGHT-OFWAY, YOU'RE SEEING NOTHING I5 AND 16. YEAH. AND AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF A FALSE vrEw. THERE A LOT OF TREES ON HIGHWAY 1 16. THIS IS AS IF YOU'RE STA)dDD\ft0N I 16 AND TFIERE ARE NO TREES YOU CAN SEE THIS IS Ti{E PROJECT }MRE. THIS iS THE EXISTING BUILDING. THIS IS NOT A NEW BUILDING. THIS IS ONE OF TFIE AUXILIARY BUILDINGS. AS ONE IS ONE OF THE 40 FOOT HIGH BUILDINGS. IF YOU CONTINUE GOING SOUTH, THE BUILDINGS GO UP TO 50 FEET IN I{EIGHT.49 POINTS TWO INCHES.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COLINCILMEMBER MAURER?
BECAUSE I THOUGHT ALL OF TI{ESE WERE 37 112 FEET.

OUR BUILDINGS ARE 37 II}FEET IN THE BUILDING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN IS 40 FEET. AND IF YOU CONTINUE GOING FURTHER SOUTH, OTHER BUILDINGS GO UP TO 49.2.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN? THANK YOU, MADAME MAYOR. WE HAVE SEEN AN EMAIL FROM WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT T}IE HEIGHT. ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA.

VICE MAYOR, ACTUALLY ALL OF THIS, WE REALLY NEED TO ruST SPEAK UP AND YELL IN.

OKAY. SPEAK REALLY LOUDLY, PLEASE.

OKAY, THAT IS WHERE I WAS BEFORE. YES, GOING OFF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER MAURER

SAID, WE DID ALL RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM CONCERNED PEOPLE THAT HAVE EXISTING

HOMES -- THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SCALE OF EXISTING HOMES. MY QUESTION IS, ONE, ARE YOU AWARE OF THOSE? AND THEN THE REQUEST IS TO SPECIFICALLY SCALE THEM IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE HEIGHT YOU DO HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT THAT?
YES. TTMSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP PRIOR TO ENTERING THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS. WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE SOME IMAGERY THAT I{ELPED EXPLAIN THIS BUT I WILL ASK CAROL OR JOHN TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. AND WE WANTED

TO, SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY WORK TO DO AND IT MAY NOT BE CLEAR

BECAUSE I AM NOT ZOOMING INTO THE SITE PLAN, BUT WE REALLY INCREASED THE SETBACKS THAT ARE REQUIRED ON THE SITE. FOR EXAMPLE, TFIE REAR SETBACK IS 20 FEET. THE SITE SETBACKS ARE NINE FEET. AND IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE POINTS, RIGHT? I WILL SHOW YOU THREE OF TFM PINCH POINTS. YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THIS CASE, 57 FOOT SETTING. SO MUCH BIGGER THAN THE 20 FEET REQUIRED. THE SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. AND 70 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE ADJACENT STRUCTURE. THE LINE IS FIERE. SO PART OF WHAT PLANNING STAFF AND THE D.O.B. AT THE STUDY SESSION

ENCOURAGED US TO DO WAS TO REALLY WORK ON KEEPING THE TREES BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THE PROPERTY LINES. BECAUSE THEY ARE EVERGREEN TREES, AND THE OTHER THING YOU'LL SEE HERE IS THIS DASHED LINE. THIS DASTMD LINE REPRESENTS

THE SIZE AND PROXIMITY THAT IT WAS PRIOR TO THIS PROJECT ON THE O'REILLY PROJECT. VICE MAYOR,I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING THROUGH THESE TO SHOW YOU TTM OTHER PINCH POINTS. SO THIS ONE IS PROBABLY THE CLOSEST ONE. THIS IS 20.5 FOOT AWAY. THERE IS A LOT OF LANDSCAPING IN HERE. SO MOST OF US ALONG THIS SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OR BETWEEN 50-70 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. EVEN THOUGH THIS PINCH POINT,20 FOOT FIVE. IN YOUR OVER IOO FEET, YOU ARE -- FROM EXISTING RESIDENTS.

CAN YOU SHOW US?
YES. LET ME GO BACK TO THE FIRST ONE. THIS IS A SECTION ON TI{E FIRST ONE THAT IS TAKEN THROUGH THIS AREA IN FIERE. YOU ARE LOOKING AT, YOUR COMING THROUGH THE STREET AT THE BACK OF THIS BUILDING.

IT IS ON, WE CANNOT, WE DO NOT SEE A PERSON. OH. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THE NEXT ONE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE FOOT WIDE ONE AT THE BOTTOM. THAT IS WFIERE I'M KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS PINCH POINT. THERE IS ONE POINT OF THE BUILDING THAT IS 28 FOOT FIVE. YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNT OF EXISTING TREES. EVEN ruST TTM BUILDINGS, YOU HAVE A BLOCK OF I 16 .5 FROM THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.

THERE IS ONE MORE, I WILL CALL THIS THE -- SITE. WHERE -- USED TO BE. T}MRE IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME FOR THTS ONE AS WELL IS 28 FOOT FIVE AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINES. AND ALSO THE BUILDINGS HERE, THEY ARE 30,40, AND 50 FEET AWAY FOR THESE BUILDINGS. YOU CAN ALSO SEE, AS YOU LOOK AT THE, AT OUR PROJECT, THE BUILDING STEPS BACK ON TI{E SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR. THE 20 FOOT FIVE IS ON GROLTND LEVEL. THERE IS A SIX FOOT PROPERTY LINE AS WELL AS THE EVERGREEN TREES. STEPS BACK FURTHER WAY TO GREATER THAN 30 FEET. FOR THE REMAINING SETBACK REQUIRED. AGAIN, THE SETBACK IN THIS AREA REQUIRED IS NINE FEET. THIS IS ALSo A GOOD EXAMPLE oF WHERE THERE WOULD BE HIGH WINDOWS oN$tf-o[d'dtno FLOOR. CLERbS'I'ORY LBVEL. ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE OUT THE THIRD FLOOR LOOKING IN AT THAT SINGLE.FAMILY HOME. THAT IS KIND OF USUALLY THE THREE THINGS WE LOOKED AT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN?
THANK YOU, MADAME MAYOR.

TFIANK YOU. I SEE YOU, COLINCILMEMBER MAURER, BUT I WILL LOOK OVER HERE.

COUNCILMEMBER MCLEWIS?
I'VE A COUPLE GENERAL QUESTIONS. IN GENERAL, ARE THESE BUILDINGS SIMILAR TO,

YOU KNOW, NOT AS TALL AS THE OLD AND ALREADY THERE THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT FOR YEARS?
YES, THAT IS CORRECT. THEY ARE 37 FEET HIGH TO THE TOP OF THE CABLE. AND BELOW, THAT IS BETWEEN 40 AND 50 FEET. AND THERE WAS A SLIGHT DOWNGRADE. THIS CAME UP WAS THE QUESTION OF THE PLANNTNG COMMISSION. AS YOU GET CLOSER TO HIGHER THAN 1 16, THE ELEVATION GETS LOWER. SO IT ACTUALLY WILL FEEL COMPARATIVELY LOWER THAN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.

ANOTTMR QUESTION. ARE WE TRYING TO COME AFTER REACHING ALL OF THIS, ARE THERE CHARGING STATIONS FOR CARS? HOW MANY?
YES. I BELIEVE WE HAVE 10, BUT I WOULD ASK JOHN J. TO CHECK ME ON THAT. EVERY SINGLE GARAGE IS PREWIRED FOR TWO EV CHARGING VEHICLES. WE ARE A SOLAR ELECTzuC BUILDER. THAT IS NOT EVEN A QUESTION ANY MARKET IN 2010,IT REALLY WAS. SO EVERYTHING WE DO IS KIND OF PUSHING THE NO GAS.

I HAVE APPRECIATION FOR THAT. I KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS TO PUT THAT IN A GARAGE.

THANK YOU.

I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT ELSE I HAVE THAT IS ALL HAVE FOR NOW. OH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR yOU. JOHN, NOW? DO YOU WANT ME -- IT SOUNDS LIKE COUNCILMEMBER, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? CAN YOU WAIT, COLINCILMEMBER MCLEWIS, FOR ruST A MINUTE ?
I LOOK AT YOUR PROJECT BEFORE AND I REMEMBER MEETING YOU. SO CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO PRICING? -- I AM ruST CURIOUS. AND AT THE EDU OPPORTLTNITY. IS THAT AN

OPPORTLINITY FOR EXISTING PEOPLE THAT WOULD BUY A UNIT TO GET THAT LICENSE, RIGHT?
YEAH.

IF YOU COULD CLARIFY LITTLE BIT?
ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. SO WE STARTED WITH 103 HOMES. WE HAVE GONE TO 80 HOMES WHICH IS ON THE LOW END OF THE DENSITY RANGE. 16 OF THE HOMES HAVE AN OPTIONAL EDU. WHEN I SAY THAT,IT IS MORE LIKE THE CITY OPTION.

THIS IS ONE THING THAT KARI AND I TALKED ABOUT. IF COLINCIL LIKE THAT, WE WILL KEEP A BIT OF THE COUNCIL DOES NOT LIKE IT, WE DO NOT HAVE TO KEEP IT. WHAT I LIKED ABOUT IT WAS IT IS AN ADDITIONAL ADAPTABLE UNIT. HIS ORGANICALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT ALSO HELPS OFFSET THE MORTGAGES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE HOMES WITH THE EDU. SO THE GRAVENSTEIN IS PART OF A PROPOSAL AS LONG AS YOU LIKE IT. THERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT FACTOR INTO THIS. ANTICIPATE THE 1300 AND 1500 SQUARE FOOT BEING AT THE HrGH 600,000 AND THE REST OF THE HOMES BEING IN THE $7OO,OOO RANGE.

THANK YOU. OKAY. COLTNCILMEMBER MAURER, DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION ? COLTNCILMEMBER MCLEWIS? OKAY.

TWO QUESTIONS. ONE IS COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WAS THERE A FIRE DEPARTMENT REVIEW? T}IE SECOND THING IS, CAN YOU SHOW US THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS FOR THIS?
YES. MULTIPLE REVIEWS. AND THEY FINALLY GOT IT RIGHT. AT THE TIME. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT IT RIGHT. MY CURSOR IS NOT WORKING SO BEAR WITH ME. THERE ARE TWO ENTRIES. ONE IS AWFUL VILIFICATION. AND, LIKE, THE EXISTING ALLEY ACCESS IS THE SECOND. THAT WAS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE REQUIRED A STRAIGHT SHOUTOUT ON THE -- SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. YET, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO ON THE SOUTHWEST PORTION, THERE IS A NEW REDUCTION TO THE RIGHT. DOWN, DOWN, DOWN. THERE WE GO!
I'M SORRY. FOR PURPOSES OF THOSE GROUNDS, WE ARE LOOKING AT Trffisb$\biE8. RIGHT CORNER O}' IMAGE, CORRECT?
EXACTLY.

THANK YOU.

THAT IS A STRAIGHT SHOT IN AND THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE ROADS ARE ALSO MOSTLY 26 FEET WIDE BECAUSE THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS AND REQUIRE WE COMPLY WITH.- THERE IS ALSO -- AT THE BACK OF THE SITE BECAUSE IT IS A RESTRICTION FOR WHERE VEHICLES COME OUT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO COI.]NCILMEMBER McLEWIS. I DID THINK OF THERE ANY

QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, THAT WOULD BE FINE
CAN YOU SHOW US WHERE THE EDU WOULD BE LOCATED?
YES BUT THERE ARE 16 THAT ARE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. SO , LIKE, I WILL WALK OVER IF YOU DO NOT MIND?
YES.

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I'M GOING TO REPEAT, THE EDU HAPPEN ON QUARTER UNITS AND THAT NEEDS TO BE APPROPRIATE. GO AHEAD. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND SECTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

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OKAY, SO JUST, SAMANTHA IS THINK THEY ARE REALLY SPREAD THROUGHOUT.

EYESIGHT YOU, SAMANTHA, IDENTIFY APPROXIMATELY EIGHT ON THE RIGHT NINE SECTION. IT LOOKED LIKE THE REMAINING EIGHT WERE ruST ON TI{E LEFT-HAND, THE LOWER SECTION OF THE IMAGE.

CORRECT. THOSE ARE THE HOMES THAT HAVE THE EDU OPTION.

I WAS WONDERING IF TI{ESE 28 WOULD I INAUDIBLE - LOW VOLLIME ] NO. THOSE ARENOT SUBJECT TO IMPACT FEES.

OKAY. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THE LOCATION WITH THIS. THE BOUNDARY FOR SEBASTOPOL CITY VERSUS THE COUNTY. tS THIS, T}IAT IS RIGHT ON THE -- YES. THIS PROJECT IS THE BOUNDARY OF TFIE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL. CORRECT.

SO SOME OF THE HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE ARE ACTUALLY PART OF THE COLINTY? CORRECT. THOSE ARE COUNTY PROPERTY.

I THOUGHT SO. THANK YOU.

I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER MAURER.

DOES THIS PROJECT MAKE INCLUSIONARY HOUSINGNEEDS FOR SEBASTOPOL? OR DOES IT USE TFIE STATE LAW TO GET AROLIND THIS ?
NO.

A CERTAIN AMOLTNT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

NO, WE HAVE TO MEET THE VISIBLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS. YES, WE HAVE THAT BUT IT IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH HOUSING ELEMENT SO THERE IS NO LOSS.

ALL RIGHT. I CAN ACTUALLY JUST COME IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER. WHEN I WAS

NOTING THE PRICING, OH, TOLD OF THE UNITS WILL BE RESTRICTED TO MODERATE LEVEL INCOMES. SO OF THOSE 80 UNITS, 12 B, AND OUR CODE IS NOT ACTUALLY INTERPRETATIVE. IT DOES NOT GO AWAY AFTER 50 YEARS,30 YEARS, LIKE IT DID BEFORE.

THE EDUS, YES, THEY WOULD BE LESS THAN 750 STATE FEE. AS NOTED BY JOHN, WE DO NOT IMPLY IMPACT FEES TO THE STATE LAW. HOWEVER,IF PEOPLE CHOOSE TO DO TI{EM, THEY COUNT TOWARD THE HOUSING NEEDS ALLOCATION COUNTS. TI{E MODERATE AND - THANK YOU. SO WE STILL HAVE TO GET PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE A HEAVY AGENDA TONIGHT. ANY REMAINING QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, COLTNCILMEMBER HINTON.

YES, TO THAT POINT, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DEED RESTRICTION IT IS SOMEWHAT

WERE TO SELL, CARRY, CAN YOU CLARIFY HOW MUCH CAN SOMEONE MAKE WITH THE DEED RESTRICTION IF THEY WERE TO BUY IT AND THEN SELL IT DOWN THE ROAD? SURE.

AT THE MODERATE INCOME TS I2O% OF MEDIAN INCOME. AND THAT IS BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE FAMILY. THE THREE BEDROOM YOU WOULD NORMALLY ASSUME THAT IS EITHER FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE. IT COULD BE, DEPENDING ON THE FAMILY SIZE, TFIERE ARE

CHARTS THAT GET KIND OF CALCULATED UP, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD VARY BETWEEN THE SIZE OF THE LINITS WHICH RANGE FROM 13OO TO 17OO SQUARE FEET. AND THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. OUR INCLUSIONARY ORDINANCE INCLUDES THAT THE DEED RESTRICTED UNITS HAVE THE SAME DISTRIBUTION AS TI{E OVERALL. IT€db]'J}UAffiruST BE

THE SMALL ONES BUT THEY HAVE TO BE JUST AS MANY OF THE SAME PERCENTAGE THROUGHOUT. IT IS A LITTLE HARD TO SAY WHAT IT IS. IT IS 1OO -- I2O% AS THE MAXIMUM.

CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE? I AM SURE EVERYONE IS CURIOUS. LET'S SAY YOU HAVE, I DON'T KNOW. FOUR ADULTS, TWO KIDS BUT WHAT WOULD 120%B FOR THAT FAMILY? YES, HOLD ON. I SHOULD HAVE THIS OR THIS HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE TIME. I LAUGHTER ] IN THE INTERIM, I THINK WE ARE GOING TO -. NO ACTUALLY, I DO HAVE A GOOD NUMBER HERE. SO FOR A THREE.PERSON HOUSEHOLD, THE INCOME LIMIT WOULD BE I38,OOO. FOR FOUR PERSON, 153, FOR A FTVE PERSON, 166,000
OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SAMANTHA. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO SIT DOWN AND WE WILL -- I THINK WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SAMANTHA. DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS HERE? I KNOW THE VICE MAYOR HAS OF FUEL. LET'S START THERE.

THANK YOU, MADAME MAYOR. YES, THE QUESTIONS I ASKED APPLING,I WILL ASK YOU AS WELL. I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND HAVE DISCUSSED THE CONCERNS WITH THE INCREASED HEIGHT.

WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT. AS SAM MENTIONED, THE HEIGHTS ARE, YOU KNOW, WITH

THE EXISTING STRUCTURES OF THE ALLOWABLE PROJECT BUT I THINK THE CONSENSUS

OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE THEY ARE STILL HOLDING

MAYFIELD OUT OF CONTEXT NEXT TO A ONE-STORY HOUSE, THE OTHER BUILDINGS ARE MUCH TALLER AND MUCH MORE MASSIVE THAN THE BIG BUILDINGS. YOU KNOW, WE CANNOT ruST SELECTIVELY -- WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS. THAT IS A FACTOR. A FACTOR WE TALKED ABOUT. AND THE FACT THAT, IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO THE SITE, THE EXISTING TREE COVER IS QUITE DENSE. THE LIVE OAKS AND THE FACT THAT THEY ARE FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT SETBACKS. MUCH BETTER THAN THE ZONING CODE REQUIRES. I THINK THE DISCUSSION WAS WE APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBOR CONCERNS. THE FACT THAT THEY ARE SO FAR AWAY AND A LOT OF TREES IN BETWEEN. THE IMPACT AT THE END OF

THE ROAD WILL NOT BE AS SCARY AS IT SOUNDS WHEN YOU THINK OF A TWO STORY SPECTRA.

I HAVE ONE.

GO AHEAD.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS A CONSENSUS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE WAS NO

NEED TO TAKE THEIR CONCERNS TO THE LEVEL OF ASKING THIS APPLICANT TO SCALE DOWN FOR SIZE OF THOSE PARTS OF TFIE BUILDING. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. AND WHEN THEY HAD THE APPLICATION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WHAT TI{EY SORT OF CAME BACK WITH AT THE SUSPECT WAS INCREASED TREMENDOUSLY. THEY DROPPED THE NUMBER OF UNITS. T}IEY ARE, I THINK IT IS BEEN

SAID ALREADY, KIND OF UP NEAR THE BOTTOM OF WHAT THE DENSITY WOULD REQUIRE FOR THAT PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, KIND OF REDUCING THE NUMBER OF UNITS ANY FURTHER IS NOT REALLY MUCH OF AN OPTION. THERE IS KIND OF A DENSITY TO MEET THERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COLTNCILMEMBER MCLEWIS ?
ruST A QUICK QUESTION AND FOR CLARIFICATION FOR ME. TIIE SETBACK FOR THE EDUS IN THIS PROJECT. IS IT IN LINE WITH WHAT THE REST OF TFIE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE?
YES. SO THESE ARE ALL TOWNHOUSE LTNITS. AND THESE ARE FOR THE UNITS THAT HAVE THAT OPTION. THAT IS AT THE GROLIND FLOOR OF THE TOWNHOUSE. SO IT IS NOT THAT SOMEONE IN THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BUILD AN ADU OUTSIDE OF THE STRUCTURES. THE ADU IS ALREADY BUILT INTO THE STRUCTURES. IF YOU DO NOT TAKE THE ADU OPTION,

IS ANOTHER ROOM IN THE HOUSE BUT YOU'RE BASICALLY SACRIFICING ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE FOR AN ADU. IT IS NOT IN THE FUTURE TI{ERE WILL BE AN ADU FOR A PROPERTY LINE. WHATEVER THEY ARE PROPOSING IS THE FOOTPRINT THAT IS GOING TO BE THERE FOREVER.

ANOTHER QUESTION?
NO THANK YOU. GO ATMAD, COLTNCILMEMBER MAURER.

AND OCTOBER OF 2OI9 ,THERE ARE TWO LOTS. I WILL CALL IT THE NORTH AND SOUTH LOT. THEY WERE PROPOSED VARIETY OF BUILDING SIZES FOR THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL.

EVERYTHTNG FROM ONE BEDROOMS, 830 SQUARE FEET. TWO BEDROOM &Te1zu6QUARE FEEI'.'l'wo BEDROOM AT i250. A ONE BEDROOM AT 860. AillD TFIEii A THREE tsEDR.OOt\4 AT 1620. AND WHEN IT WAS REDUCED TO, AND IT WAS A COMBINATION OF TWO STRAIGHT AND THREE-STORY BUILDINGS. IT WAS NOT JUST ALL THREE STORIES. SO TI{EN IT WAS REDUCED TO 80 ON ALL THREE STORIES. AND NOTHING, AND ALL THREE BEDROOMS PLUS. SO CAN YOU HELP ME TINDERSTAND HOW THAT CHANGED AND WHY THAT CHANGED? AND HOW MUCH WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION A PART OF THAT CHANGE IN DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF HEIGHT AND VARIETY OF ryPES OF HOMES?

I WOULD SAY AT THE VARIETY OF TYPES OF HOMES WAS NOT REALLY DISCUSSED AS PART OF THE COMMISSION. AGAIN, WE DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE HEIGHT.

THE CONSENSUS WAS THE HEIGHT IS -- BUT WE DID NOT REALLY TALK ABOUT THE VARIETY. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT UNIT TYPES. I DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CHANGED. -. CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THAT BETTER THAN I CAN. IN TERMS OF SIZE AND NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. THAT WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSED AS PART OF THE PLANNING COMMIS SION DELIBERATIONS.

TTIANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS, IT LOOKS LIKE NOT. LET'S GO OUT WITH QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC. PUBLIC, THANK YOU. -- IS ONE OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. GO AFIEAD
THANK YOU, MADAME MAYOR. THIS IS TTM, PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CANOPY

RESIDENTIAL PROJECT BUT IF YOU LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, TFIE PROTOCOL IS YOU GO TO IN CHAMBERS FIRST AND THEN WE GO OUT TO THEM IN. IF YOU WOULD LIKE

TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, PUBLIC CANOPY, GO AHEAD.
. REALLY QUICKLY. REALLY ENCOURAGING. THAT IS IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.. NEXT, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. LAUREN, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
YES. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
NO. I CANNOT.

OKAY, I WLL ruMP IN WHEN YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS LEFT. GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE..

PERFECT. MY NAME IS LAUREN RIZZO AND I AM A MANAGING LITIGATION ATTORNEY AT THE EVICTION DEFENSE CENTER. AS A SMALL NONPROFIT WITH EXTRAORDINARY IMPACT. MY 10 YEAR AT MY ORGANIZATION, LITIGATED OVER 2OOO CASES TO HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS STAY IN THEIR HOME OR TRANSITION TO NEW AND SAFE HOUSING.

IF THERE'S ANYTHTNG I HAVE LEARNED DURING MY IO YEAR IS WORKING TO PROTECT

THE RIGHTS TO HOUSING IT IS THAT WE NEED MORE HOUSING AND WE NEED MORE THOUGHTFUL HOUSING. THAT IS WHY I AM CALLING TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THIS

VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT READ THESE ARE THE EXACT TYPES OF HOMES WE NEED TO BE APPROVING. FOR TI{E SAKE OF PEOPLE LOOKING TO BUY THE FIRST HOMES. IT HAS BECOME EXCEEDINGLY HARD FOR FIRST-TIME BUYERS TO ENTER THE HOUSING MARKET.

I'M ALSO PLEASED TO SEE THAT THIS PROJECT HAS THREE TIMES MORE A.D.A.

ACCESSIBLE HOUSING THAT REQUIRED WHICH ALSO ALLOWS SENIORS AND PEOPLE WITH

DISABILITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN HOMES THAT WOULD TYPICALLY TARGET SOLELY A YOLINGER MARKET. THE CITY RECOGNIZED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT THAT THIS SITE,IT WAS THE RIGHT PLACE. I AGREE THAT THE SITE IN THE CITY COURT IS EXACTLY WHERE WE SHOULD BE BUILDING HOUSING. I ALSO THINK IT IS RESPECTFUL THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD REDUCE THE PROPOSAL TO 80 HOMES ON A SITE THAT ALLOWS FOR I5O3 HOMES. IN ORDER TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT TI{E CITY HAS APPROVED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT. DENYING THIS PROJECT OR CONDITIONING A REDUCTION IN DENSITY WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE HOUSING CAPABILITY ACT FINANCIAL SUPPORT THE 16 1029 SHOWN ON THE PLAN WHICH ALLOWS THE AFFORDABLE UNIT HERE WHICH ALLOWS FOR DIFFERENT FAMILY TYPES WITHIN A SINGLE PROJECT.

LAUREN, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS ANCHORAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, LAUREN, FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL COME BACK IN CHAMBERS.

HELLO AND GOOD EVENING. HER NAME IS ALEX. I LIVE WITH MY LIFE, OUR CHILDREN, AND Two DOGS IN SEBASTOPOL. MY WIFE wAS BORN IN PETALUMA. I SDFddTsAi6b4oST IvtY ENTIRE LIFE IN SEBASTOPOL. -- HIGH SCHOOLS. I'M HERE TODAY TO SAY THAT HOUSI}{G IN THIS TOWN IS PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE AND UNAVAILABLE -- UNAVAILABLE. I

BELIEVE THE CANOPY PROJECT IS ONE STEP TO RECTIFY THIS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A QUICK BUDGET EXERCISE WHICH I DO REGULARLY. ACCORDING TO STATE

EXPERTS, ONE WHO ATTENDED THE LEFT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE IN CITY OF SEBASTOPOL IS ONE $.6 MILLION. I AM SURE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT HAS A HOME LIKE THAT BUT I TIP MY CAP TO YOU.

PROTECTING THIS TYPE OF HOME, A2O% DOWN PAYMENT AND A 30 YEAR MORTGAGE, wLL REQUIRE A $320,000 DOWN PAYMENT AND THEN PAYING NEARLY $11,000 PER MONTH IN THE POOL,INTEREST, TAX AND INSURANCE, FOR 30 YEARS. I TALKED TO A COUPLE PERSONAL FINANCIAL ADVISERS BUT THEY SAID TI{E HOUSE OUTS IT'S BEEN NO MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR GROSS INCOME ON THEIR HOME MORTGAGE. THEY SHOULD BE BRINGING IN APPROXIMATELY 432,OOO PER YEAR TO SERVICE THE $11,OOO PER MONTH PAYMENT FOR TI{E AVERAGE SEBASTOPOL HOME. ACCORDING TO THE U.S. CENSUS, THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IN SEBASTOPOL FROM 2018-22 AND THOSE DOLLARS IS $98,1 85.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 25 SECONDS.

A COMMUNIry WITH A AVERAGE HOME BUYER NEEDS TO EARN -- INCREASES THE

AVERAGE HOME IS NOT SUSTAINABLE OR AN ACCESSIBLE COMMUNITY WITH SUCH A coMMtiNITy owNING A HOME IS WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. I INAUDIBLE - LOW VOLUME ] THIS TOWN, THIS COMMI.INITY IS NOT AFFORDABLE FOR YOLING FAMILIES. I AM SCARED FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR COMML]NITY AND THE OTHER SERVICES AND EVENTS. WE DO NOT HAVE A GAME ANYMORE. THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTryAL. I ENCOURAGE CITY

COUNCIL TO TAKE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND TO TAKE THEIR PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION -. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.. NEXT, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. KATE, CAN YOU LTNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
I WANT TO SAY I AM SPEAKING IN CONCERT WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS. THE

CANOPY PROJECT PROVIDES NEXT NEEDED HOLLY -- POSING IN A LOCATION CLOSE TO SCHOOL, BIKE TRAIL, AND A TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR. THE BUILDING PLANS ARE

THOUGHTFUL AND THEY HAVE EV HOOKUPS WHICH ARE KEY FOR MANY WORKING FAMILIES. THERE IS AN EXCELLENT INTEGRATION WITH THE TRAIL AND EXISTING SIDEWALKS OF 116. I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS DENSITY DESIGN PROJECT. THESE PROJECTS ARE DESIGNED WITH SAFETY, PRIVACY, AND NOISE ACCOI.JNTED FOR AND THOUGHTFULLY INTEGRATED INTO THE PLANS. IF COUNCIL SUPPORTS BUILDING ADUS

WITHIN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH SETBACKS THAT ARE LESS THAN FIVE FEET, THEN PEOPLE SHOULD BE THRILLED FOR 20 FEET AND 28 FEET SETBACKS BUT IMAGINE YOU BUY HOUSE NOTE WALTER LIBBY AND YOUR NEIG}IBOR CAN PUT IN AN

ADU WITH VERY LITTLE PERMITTING AND HAVE LESS THAN FIVE FEET OF A SETBACK BETWEEN YOUR FANS AND THEIR FANS. DENSITY BY DESIGN IS THE WAY HOMES ARE NOW BUILT IN CALIFORNIA. I REQUIRES MORE DENSITY. ECONOMICS AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS WILL HIRE MORE DENSITY. IT IS LINLIKELY THAT WE WILL

EVER SEE ANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN SEBASTOPOL CITY LIMITS THAT LOOK LIKE SINGLE-STORY RANCH HOUSES ON LARGE LOTS. THIS IS AN OLD SILO BUILDING THAT IS NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE NOR ENVIRONMENTALLY PREFERABLE. THE CANOPY

REPRESENTS A DEVELOPMENT THAT PROVIDES SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF HOUSING WITH REDUCED FOOTPRINTS. THIS IS NOT ONLY SUPPORTED BY STATE REGULATION, AND IS A

GOOD WAY TO BRING MORE DENSITY INTO A SMALL TOWN LIKE SEBASTOPOL THAT ONLY HAS TWO SQUARE MILES.

TI{AT IS TWO MINUTES.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. I WLL NOW COME BACK IN CHAMBERS.

HELLO, GOOD EVENING. I NAME IS EMILY. THE ONE HOUSE SHAPED LIKE A CAPITAL ASSET. SEEING THAT AS A PINCH POINT IN THE PROJECT. THE PROJECT SITE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. I'M HERE TONIGHT ruST TO SHOW PERSPECTTVE. I LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. IT HAS CHARMING. t INAUDIBLE - LOW VOLUME ] THAT IS WHERE THE PROPERTY IS. THE PROPERTY -. THERE ARE SEVERAL PROPERTIES ALONG THE FENCE LINE. WE'LL HAVE LOTS oF QARS, POLLUTION, AND CONGESTION. IT IS NOT LOST ON ME OR MY FAb{IIeYf ME HAVE TWO LITTLE KIDS. LIVING NEXT TO A CONSTRUCTION ZONE SINCE THE DEVELOPERS BROKE GROWN. I INAUDIBLE - MUFFLED ] THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IS -- COMPLIANT WITH THE CITY GENERAL PLAN. THIS POLICY THAT IS SENSITIVE TO THE SIZE OF DIFFERENT DWELLINGS. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, EXCUSE ME, MAYOR, I WILL ASK THE PERSON IN THE FRONT TO KEEP THEIR SIGN BELOW EYE LEVEL. THANK YOU. THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE -. ALLOWING HUNDREDS OF FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. SO THAT DISTANCE IS QUITE SIGNIFICANT. THANK YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

SO THE DENSITY IS JUST CHALLENGING TO SAY THE LEAST. IN CLOSING, HAVING A PROPOSAL WITH -- TFIE GENERAL PLAN. THE CITY COLTNCIL TO PLEASE STAY TN TOUCH WITH THE CONSTITUENTS AND CONSIDER THE IINAUDIBLE - MUFFLED ] THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT NEXT, I WILL GO OUT TO HIM. ROBERT, CAN YOU LINMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
YES. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES. A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS. I INAUDIBLE . MUFFLED ] SO THE REAL ISSUE IS THE HEIGHT OF THESE BUILDINGS AND THE PROXIMITY TO THE NEIGHBORS. I THINK WE INVEST A LOT OF MONEY IN OUR PROPERTY. WE SORT OF TRUST THAT THE CITY

PROMISES THINGS LIKE NO ONE IS GOING TO BUILD RIGHT BEHTND YOUR HOUSE, A CHAINLIKE FENCE, BECAUSE IT IS NOT ALLOWED, BUT IT IS. THAT IS NOT A FAIR THING TO THE PEOPLE TFIAT LIVE THERE. MY WAY OF LOOKING AT IT, THE HEIGHT OF BUILDINGS IS ONE THING. IF YOU GO IN SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD, THAT IS ANOTHER THING. AND TFIE ADU, CAN THESE BE USED AS AIRBNB'S? THAT WOULD CREATE PROBLEMS FOR US IN THE CITY MOVING FORWARD. SOMETHING TO TALK TO HER. MAYBE IT HAS? MOST OF THESE

DEVELOPMENTS IN SANTA ROSA HAVE REALLY CROWDED STREETS FOR CARS PARKED WHEN PEOPLE USE THEIR GARAGES FOR STORAGE. THINGS LIKE FIRE TRUCKS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THIS PLACE. AND THEN A PET. IT IS THE STATE. AND SEBASTOPOL. IT IS NOT THE DEVELOPER'S FAULT. HAVING AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

THERE IS NO CONCERN ABOUT WATER. EVERY SUMMER , OUR PLANTS DIE. WE ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC. WE ALL KNOW TRAFFIC IS TFIE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IN THIS CITY. WE HAVE NO PROMISE OF EVACUATION PLANS. WE KNOW THAT A FEW YEARS AGO WE TRIED TO EVACUATE AND IT WAS A DISASTER. IT TOOK HOURS TO GET OUT OF THE CITY. NONE OF THESE THINGS WILL BE HELD BY A NEW DEVELOPMENT. THESE ALL ISSUES WE NEED AS A CITY TO STEP UP AND ADDRESS MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, WE WILL COME BACK TO THE CHAMBERS.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR RICH AND COLINCILMEMBERS. I AM A POLICY DIRECTOR AT GENERATION HOUSING. WE SUBMITTED -- I'M HOPING YOU WILL READ IT. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ONE STATISTIC AND DATA POINT FROM T}MRE. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO REALLY -- IN THIS PUBLIC SETTING. THAT IS SINCE THE YEAR 2OOO, AND UP TO 2019, OUR STATE HAS REPORTED THAT THERE'S BEEN A3O% REDUCTION IN HOMES IN THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL THAT HAVE CHILDREN. THAT IS A PROBLEM. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE SINCE THE 2019, YOU KNOW, THE CENSUS DATA. WE HEARD IT HAS GOTTEN WORSE. IT IS NOT GOING TO GET BETTER. HOW CAN WE GUARANTEE THAT? JUST TRANSITIONTNG HERE, YOU KNOW, I ruST JOINED THE HIGH SCHOOL COALITION. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS NOW. I'M ALSO THE CHAIR AND I HAVE BEEN A LONG TIME MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD AND A PROUD SEBASTOPOL RESIDENT. I HAVE BEEN TIERE A LONG TIME. EVERYTHING ELSE RELATED TO FIRES. AND I AM WONDERING WI{ETHER OR NOT I CAN STAY HERE. THAT IS EMOTIONAL FOR ME. BECAUSE I -- AND HERE WE ARE. SOMEONE LIKE MYSELF WHO IS PRETTY SUCCESSFUL AND YET I AM ON THE BRIDGE OF HAVING TO MAKE A HARD CHOICE. AND NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE IN

SACRAMENTO BUT EVERYONE WAS TO SACRAMENTO BECAUSE THERE IS NO BETTER OPTION.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME STARK REALITIES THAT PEOPLE NEED TO FACE. WE WANT TO SUPPORT IN THE URBAN GROWTH BOLTNDARY AS IT TS. AND IF WE DO NOT -- IF WE BUILD UP, WE WILL ACHIEVE NOTHING WE WANT TO ACHIEVE AND OUR COMMI.INITIES WILL cRrND TO A HALT. THAT rS COMTNG TO MY FrNAL POINT. PLEASE SUPPOB{IsTICI&ffi.OJECT WE NEED IS HOUSING. EVERY OTHER JURISDICTION WOULD KILL FOR AN AMAZING PROJECT LIKE THIS. I URGE YOUR APPROVAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FIEARING ME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WIL GO OUT TO ZOOM. LINDA, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE? THANK YOU. GO AHEAD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, LINDA.

HELLO. I LIKE TO SAY HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY IN HEARING PEOPLE TONIGHT.

ANYWAY, I WANT TO APPLAUD ROBERT FOR HIS COMMENTS. I LIKE TO SAY,I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 22 YEARS ruST DOWN THE ROAD. 1 16. FROM THIS CANOPY PROJECT THAT I PASS IT EVERY DAY AND I PASS IT ON MY BIKE AND WHEN I'M WALKING. ON THAT TRAIL EVERY DAY. I KNOW MANY OF THE PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED THE PETITION, MYSELF INCLUDED. TO HAVE A LOWER HEIGHT. BUT ANYWAY, OVERALL, THIS PROJECT IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER. THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. I WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT IMPACT SAYS. FOR INSTANCE, THE WATER DEMAND APPROXIMATELY 10.3 MILLION GALLONS PER YEAR. WITH 18,IOO GALLONS OF WASTE WATER AND SEWAGE TODAY. AND THEY EXPECT THIS PROJECT TO REDUCE APPROXIMATELY 214 TONS OF SOLID WASTE PER YEAR, MANY GARBAGE FOR THAT

MEANS THAT MANY MORE TRUCKS AND STUFF ON THE ROADS THAT ARE ALREADY IN VERY POOR CONDITION. ACCORDING TO LAST BUDGET REPORT AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THEY REQUIRE $7 MILLION. THANKS LINDA, YOU HAVE ABOUT 25 SECONDS.

ANYWAY, I AM SUGGESTING TT{AT YOU TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS. STANBACK AND LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. THE TRAFFIC, YOU FAILED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE IMPACT ON 12 AND I6, THAT INTERSECTION. THAT ITSELF REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT. I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK.

LINDA, THAT IS TWO MINUTES.

OKAY, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT . I WILL NOW COME BACK TO CHAMBERS.

IT IS NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING I CAN ADDRESS. I LISTEN CAREFULLY AND I HAVE A QUESTION. THAT IS, HOW IS A PRIORIry TO SENIORS? I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND IT DID NOT TAKE LONG. THE THREE-STORY BUILDING IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR MOST

SENIORS OVER, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN AGE TO NAVIGATE TO THE GET TO THE THIRD FLOOR GETTING UP AND DOWN. SO I THINK THAT IS A LITTLE DISINGENUOUS. THE FACT I

DO NOT THINK MANY OF OUR SENIORS ARE LOOKTNG FOR THREE-STORY HIGH HOMES TO MOVE TO. AND TO THE COLINCIL AND PLANNING. WE ARE IN DIRE NEED OF AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING IN THIS CITY. AND IF WE COULD OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE, MAYBE TI{AT WOULD FREE UP SOME HOMES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED HERE TI{EIR LIVES AND SUPPORTED THIS TOWN. PERSONALLY, I KNOW MANY PEOPLE THAT I KNOW WOULD LOVE TO DOWNSIZE AND FIND SOMETHING IN TOWN. IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. I BRTNG THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. THE OTHER THING IS THE TRAFFIC AT TFM EXIT WHERE O'REILLY IS. YOU LOOK AT 80 HOMES. THAT IS NICE YOU DOWNSIZE TO THAT. BUT I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTION. WILL THERE BE LIGHT NECESSARY? I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY COMMENT ON A TRAFFIC STUDY. ENTERING AND EXITING THAT LOCATION. AND THEN --
YOU HAVE ABOUT 25 SECONDS.

OKAY,I WIL TRY TO BE QUICK. I HEAR TFIE GENERAL PLAN BEING TALKED ABOUT. I

THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE HAVE DUE DILIGENCE ON HOW WE FIT IN THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I SEE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, ALL OF THIS HIGH DENSITY. MAXIMIZING PROFITS AND GETTING AS MANY HOMES INTO ONE LOCATION. SO I WILL JUST LEAVE YOU WITH THIS. WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BUILD OURSELVES OUT OF AFFORDABLE

HOUSING TFIE SITUATION WE ARE IN GOOD
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM . JIM, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE? JIM, CAN YOU L]NMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE? JIM, WE CANNOT TMAR YOU.

I WLL COME BACK TO JIM. I WILL GO ON TO KYLE. CAN YOU LINMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
YES, I CAN. I CANNOT SEE THE TIMER BUT YOU CAN LET ME KNOW. SO MANY TIMES IN

THE PAST,I AM ALL FOR HIGH DENSITY, LOW INCOME, NON-AUTOMOBILE CENTRIC HOUSTNG. ONE THING I WANT TO SEE IS WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT DEVEil9SflMENTS

SUCH AS THIS ONE, IN WHICH THEY ARE GIVEN VARIANCES BASED ON A NUMBER OF

STORIES THAT ALLOWS THEM TO INCREASE THE DENSITY BUT YET WE ARE NOT REALLY ADDRESSING THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OF THAT AREA, RIGHT? PEOPLE MENTIONED TRAFFIC. I THINK A LARGER SCALE, OUR CITY FAILS TO REALLY ADDRESS THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OF THE CITY WI{EN IT GOES THROUGH AND DOES CHANGES TO THE GENERAL PLAN. YOU KNOW, WE SEE SOME OTFIER BIG DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA WHERE THERE ARE SERIOUS ISSUES WITH SIDEWALK APPS. JUST LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN GENERAL. SO WHILE OUR CITY CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE

DECISIONS ABOUT INCREASING DENSITY IN LOCATIONS, THE OTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT IS THIS IS NOT EVEN ZONED RESIDENTIAL CURRENTLY. THIS IS OWNED IN A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. SO CHANGTNG THE ZONING OF A FORMAL GENERAL PLAN. THERE

IS NO REAL KIND OF PLAN IN PLACE TO GENERATE THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO SUPPORT THIS INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF RESIDENCES AND TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.

THIS IS A PATTERN WITH OUR CITY. WE WENT THROUGH IN THE LAST GENERAL PLAN, RADICALLY INCREASING THE DENSITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING ACROSS THE CITY.

WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY SORT OF CITY-BASED INFRASTRUCTURE OR EVEN PUTTING

THINGS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THE DEVELOPERS ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDING INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED FOR THAT TYPE OF BILL.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

BY ALL MEANS, I SUPPORT HIGH DENSITY AND LOW INCOME HOUSING. THE CITY HAS

GOT TO DO ITS PART IN MAKING SURE THAT EITHER DEVELOPERS ARE PROVIDING INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO SUPPORT THAT ryPE OF DENSITY, OR THE CITY HAS GOT TO KICK IN AND ACTUALLY MAKE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS NEEDED. IN

PARTICULAR HERE, WE KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO BLAME THE TRAFFIC ISSUE ON CALTRANS BUT THAT IS NOT REALLY A FAIR THING TO SAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CONSIDERING THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WILL COME BACK IN CHAMBERS. JIM? YEAH. THIS PROPOSAL IS TRYING TO FIX THE CHARACTER OF SEBASTOPOL. BUT TFIERE IS SOME OTHER THINGS NEEDED TO HELP IT ALONG. TO MAKE THIS, TO REDUCE THE DENSITY IS -- THAT WILL ALLOW A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY IN THE DESIGN. RIGHT NOW, IT REMINDS ME OF I INAUDIBLE - MUFFLED ] IN FORT CAMPBELL , KENTUCKY, THAT I SPENT SOME TIME IN. IT WAS VERY BLOCKY. IT HAD NO GRACE AS FAR AS HOW IT IS LAID OUT. I AM SEEING THIS AS AN EXAMPLE OF -- IT IS TOO TIGHT. IT IS A BLOCK OF BUILDINGS.

AGAINST THE O'REILLY BUILDINGS. ONE THING IN THIS PROJECT, THERE ARE A LOT OF REALLY NICE TREES ARE BEING REMOVED. AND IT WOULD TAKE ruST A LITTLE BIT OF WORK TO MOVE THINGS AROLTND TO KEEP SOME REALLY BEAUTIFUL ONES. AND ONE OF

THE EXAMPLES I AM PASSING ALONG IS JUST A GORGEOUS TREE TTIAT IS LOCATED --

CAN YOU MAKE SURE -- WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL, IF YOU COULD HELP ME IN TERMS OF THE DOCUMENTS BEING PASSED AROTIND? IS THAT APPROPRIATE? I WOULD NOT BE DISCUSSING THEM. THEY WILL PASS THEM OUT.

OKAY, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT OR WOULD YOU LIKE US TO REFER BACK TO YOU?
TYPICALLY,IF WE HAVE DOCUMENTS, GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT TI{EM TO ME AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND GET TI{EM OUT THERE.

YES, PLEASE.

I AM SORRY. LANE, YOU'RE TALKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL AND NOT AS A MEMBER OF --, CORRECT? YOU'RE NOT REPRESENTING THE DESIGNER BOARD IN THIS?

CORRECT
I ruST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AS A MEMBER OF THE DESIGN REVIEW

BOARD BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE SEEKING AS A MEMBER OF THE

COMMUNITY, NOT REPRESENTING THE DESIGN BOARD IS AN THANK YOU, MARY GOURLEY, FOR CLARIFYING THAT. THANK YOU.

SO THERE IS AN EXCEPTIONAL TREE. IT IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK AREA THEY ARE. THEY WANT TO TAKE THAT TREE OUT. IT WOULD BE JUST FLTN FOR KIDS TO CLIMB IN. PEOPLE CAN SIT ON THE BRANCHES OR LIEN AGAINST TFIAT TREE. IT IS ELEGANT. BUT IT IS GOING TO BE REPLACED.

THAT IS TWO MINUTES. TI-IAT IS TWO MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

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YOU ARE UP. I LAUGHTER ] THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM . JIM, IF YOU CAN HEAR US, UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE? THERE WE GO. I WLL BE QUICK. SO I GUESS I AM, I I{AVE NOT FOLLOWED THIS PROJECT IN TOO MUCH DETAIL. I WAS ON A COMMITTEE IO YEARS AGO OR WHATEVER IT WAS. I'M IN FAVOR OF TTM PROJECT. IT IS ALWAYS A COMPROMISE. I THINK HOUSING IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. THE TOTALITY OF OUR TOWN CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT ATTRACTING PEOPLE TT{AT CAN MOVE HERE. AND MY PHILOSOPHY, EVEN THE WINMARK APARTMENTS COMING IN, 80 UNITS PER TFIAT IS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I DECIDED EVEN THOUGH IT IMPACTS ME, I AM JUST GOING TO DEAL WITH WHATEVER THE IMPACTS ARE. I

THINK DEALING WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRAFFIC AND EVACUATION PLANS IS A

TOPIC THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT HOW TO EFFECTIVELY MITIGATE PROBLEMS WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO GET OUT OF A PLACE IN A HURRY. I WOULD RATHER HAVE VARIOUS PROBLEMS BE ADDRESSED THEN HAVE THE TOWN ruST BE SORT OF AN AGING SET AT ONE $.6 MILLION HOMES WITH NO AVAILABILITY TRUCK TRACK PEOPLE LINLESS THEY ARE YOUR KIDS MOVING IN AS THEY GET OLDER OR SOMETHING.

SO IT IS ALWAYS A COMPROMISE. THERE IS ALWAYS A CONSTRUCTION COST. THESE GO

DOWN AND I HAVE JUST LEARNED OVER TIME THAT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT UP

WITH STUFF FOR A WHILE AND YOU GET USED TO IT AND IT IS REALLY NOT AS BAD AS WE FEARED. I AM IN FAVOR OF IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WILL COME BACK IN CHAMBERS.

I{ELLO. CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I LOVE THAT -- AVENUE. I CAN SEE THERE ARE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THIS PROJECT. BUT I DO NOT AGREE WITH IT. I DO NOT AGREE WITH IT BEING BUILT YET HERE IT IS. AS IT IS, AS PLANNED. -- AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS PROJECT SIMPLY DOES NOT PUT IN. IT DOES NOT. I INAUDIBLE - MUFFLED ] IT DOES NOT FIT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD . AND IT WAS CLEARLY NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN. I DON'T KNOW WHY, IT IS A REALLY SIMPLE THING. .. I-2 SAYS, THE CITY IS ENSURING THAT NO DEVELOPMENTS WILL BE SENSITIVE TO THE SIZE OF NEW HOMES. TO SCALE RENDERING OF THE PROJECT. IS IT HEIGHT SENSITIVE TO THIS HOME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? I KNOW IT IS NOT. IS IT BEING SENSITIVE TO THE HEIGHT? I MEAN, REALLY? LOOK AT THAT. THIS IS TO SCALE. TWO

WEEKS AGO, THE PLANNING COMMISSION QUICKLY VOTED FOR THE PROJECT WITHOUT FIRST DISCUSSING THE CONCERN ABOUT THE HUGE SIZE. AND FOR THE AGENDA

TONIGHT, THE STAFF REPORT, IT SAYS THE PROJECT MUST COMPLY BECAUSE THE PROJECT HEIGHT WAS LESS T}IAN -- I HAVE A COMPLAINT. THE CLEARLY STATED POINT OF THE PROJECT HEIGHT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE HIGHEST. THAT IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM HERE. WI{Y ARE WE DOING THIS? INSTEAD, THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANCE -- THAT IS TWO MINUTES.

OKAY. A PROPOSAL TO REDUCE THE SIZE SO THAT IT ACTUALLY IS COMPLIANT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT . NEXT, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM . SEAN, CAN YOU ADMIT YOURSELF, PLEASE?
CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CANNOT THAT I WILL BE VERY QUICK. OKAY. I DO NOT THINK VERY MUCH HAS BEEN MENTIONED ABOUT THE, HOW PEOPLE WILL GET IN AND OUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THEY MENTIONED THERE IS GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAY ON THE SOUTH ENTRANCE OF O'REILLY. THERE ARE NO LIGHTS THERE. AT EITHER OF THE O'REILLY EXITS. THERE IS A LIGHT AT THE EXIT OF THE SCHOOL. N4Y CONCERN IS HOW THAT TS

GOING TO IMPACT, I MEAN, YOU CAN PROBABLY GUESS WFIERE MY CHILDREN GO TO SCHOOL. THE I8O LINITS, PROBABLY 160 CARS. TFM DROP OFF HER SCHOOL, THERE IS A LOOP. YOU GO IN THAT LITTLE DRIVEWAY AND AROLIND THE SCHOOL PROPERTY. AND THEN YOU COME BACK OUT. IF THERE IS ANY SORT OF BACKUP IN THAT NARROW SECTION BETWEEN WI{ERE YOU EXIT TO O'REILLY, HOPEFULLY, YOU REMEMBER THE MAP AT THE MILL STATION. THE PARKING LOT NORTHBOLIND. YOU GET TO TFIE INTERSECTION AND YOU CAN ONLY FIT A COUPLE CARS AT A TIME BETWEEN THAT AND THE LIGHT. I'M REALLY CONCERNED THERE IS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AT THAT LOCATION.

AND MY FINAL POINT IS WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT 68 OF THESE 80 HOMES CAN BE SOLD TO ANYBODY. IT CAN BE SOLD TO INVESTORS.

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OKAY. I WLL STOP THERE THEN. TI{ANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL NOW COME BACK IN CHAMBERS.

I BEEN HERE SINCE -- RESTORATION. I WILL PIGGYBACK ON WHAT FOLKS FIAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THE INFRASTRUCTURE YOU DO NOT HAVE. I DO NOT KNOW WHERE THIS MAJOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IS IN WEST COUNTY. BUT NOW, SOMETIMES 116 IS BACKED UP TO ANDY'S. OR IT IS BACKED UP COMING UP ON ACCIDENTAL. AND SOMETIMES IT HAS BEEN BACKED UP ALL THE WAY TO -- AND SO IT IS NICE WE HAVE A BUS ROUTE. NOBODY USES THE BUS ROUTE. HOW MANY BICYCLES DO YOU SEE GOING INTO TOWN, EVEN THOUGH IT IS CLOSE? IT IS NOT HAPPENING. WE DO NOT USE BICYCLES. THESE FOLKS, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE ALL STARTED USING BICYCLES BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO WHERE IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS GOING TO, WE ARE ALL THESE VEHICLES? I MEAN, IT IS GOING TO BE PRETTY CRAZY ON THESE ROADS. COMING INTO SEBASTOPOL AND LEAVING SEBASTOPOL. AND I DO NOT KNOW WHAT ANSWERS YOU GUYS HAVE. THAT IS A LOT OF CARS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM . SARAH, CAN YOU ADMIT YOURSELF, PLEASE? CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER? OKAY, GO AHEAD, PLEASE PRINT
FIELLO. MY NAME IS SARAH JAY AND I LIVE IN THE COTINTY BUT I SPOKE AT THE LAST

MEETING I'M TMRE AGAIN TONIGHT BECAUSE I FEEL THE NEED TO VOICE MY SUPPORT

FOR THIS PROJECT FOR THIS PROJECT CAME TO MY ATTENTION THROUGH A POST ON NEXT DOOR BUT I'VE LOOKED AT THE PROJECT PLANS A LOT AND I THINK THE 37 FEET

THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING IS SHORTER THAN THE O'REILLY AND MOST OF THE PROPERTY LINE OF TREES. THIS, THEY COULD PROPOSED I53 HOMES AND INSTEAD, THE PROPOSED 80. WE NEED THE HOUSING AND WE NEED ENTRY-LEVEL HOUSING. IN SENIORLEVEL HOUSING WHICH THIS IS. THEY'RE NOT ENOUGH PLACES TO LIVE HERE. THE ONES

THAT ARE AVAILABLE CERTAINLY ARE NOT GOING TO BE EASY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO BUY. ALSO GLAD TO SEE HOUSING PROPOSED HERE. I WANT TO READ SOME OF THE

RESPONSES ON TFIE NEXT HER POST THAT PEAKED MY INTEREST BECAUSE THEIR

OVERALL IN A POSITIVE AND NOT EVERYONE HAS TIME TO SHOP FOR TUESDAY NIGHT MEETING. REALLY NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO SUPPORT THIS. MORE STUDENTS PER SCHOOLS IS A GOOD THING. WE NEED FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, OTHERWISE ANY SCHOOLS WILL BE IN DANGER OF CLOSING. HOW MANY YOUNG FAMILIES CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN SEBASTOPOL OR ANYWHERE IN THIS COUNTY? IOO% IN FAVOR OF ADDITIONAL HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING IN AND AROUND SEBASTOPOL.

I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THIS COMPLETED, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE BIKE PATH.

HOPEFULLY THIS WILL ATTRACT YOUNGER FAMILIES SO SEBASTOPOL CAN STAY VIBRANT. TFM HEIGHT AND DENSITY IS EXACTLY WHAT WILL MAKE IT MORE

AFFORDABLE FOR MORE SEBASTOPOL HOUSING BUT I HOPE COLINCIL WILL SUPPORT A PROJECT THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN HOUSING OUTLINE. LOGIC SHOULD NOT TAKE THIS LONG TO GO THROUGH THE CITY PROCESS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WILL COME BACK IN CHAMBERS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COTINCIL BEARS. I THINK WE WILL GO BACK AND I

WILL SPEAK TO THE DESIGN COMPONENTS THAT ARE A PART OF THIS PROPOSAL WITH THE GENERAL PLAN. I THINK THERE ARE POLICIES THAT ARE BEING IGNORED WITH THE ADEQUACY OF TFIE EXISTING COMMUNITIES. YOU DO NOT NECESSARILY SEE IT. I THINK

THERE WOULD BE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE SCALING OF SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS AS OPPOSED TOWARD TT{E EAST OF HILLIARD AVENUE. I THINK WITH THE PLAT HOUSING,

THE LAND-USE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED MAKES SENSE BUT I THINK EVERYONE CAN

AGREE WITH THAT FOR TFIE DESIGN AND THE FLTNCTION TAKING PLACE HERE I DO NOT BELIEVE IS ADEQUATE. AS IT HEADS TOWARD THE EAST. I THINK THERE ARE BETTER

DESIGN OPTIONS BEING IGNORED AND BEEN BROUGHT UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. USING THE GENERAL PLAN AS LEVERAGE FOR THAT IS THE DOCUMENT FOR GROWTH IN THE CITY. AND AUTHOR OF THE GENERAL PLAN, THE POLICIES ARE BEING IGNORED WITH THIS DESIGN OR COMPLIANCE INTO THE EXISTING COMMLINITY. 37 FOOT STRUCTURE SITTING AT MY HOME WHICH IS 20 FEET LOOKS A LITTLE RIDICULOUS. T}IERE

IS A TREE THAT IS IMPLANTED AS PART OF THE BUFFERING OF THE ORIGINAL PROJECT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL. WE REPLACED A 37 FOOT STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE LOOKING INTO MY BEDROOM AND BATHROOM. THAT IS A Lllf$fift|$e CONCERNING. 'I'T{b tsUFT.ERING OI. I HB 'I'REES THAT ARE ALONG THE NORTFIERN BORDER, THEY ARE THERE FOR A REASON. TO PREVENT THAT TYPE OF OBSTRUCTION FROM MOVTNG. THAT IS BEEN SOMEWHAT IGNORED BECAUSE THAT IS SOME OF THE TREES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED. I AM STRETCHING AHEAD A LITTLE BIT. WHY ARE SOME OF THESE TREES -. AN YOU HAVE ABOUT 20 SECONDS.

WHY ARE THESE TREES BEING REMOVED? IT IS NOT ENTIRELY IN LINE WITH THE DESIGNS I HAD TO GO THROUGH DURING THE ORIGINAL O'REILLY DEVELOPMENT. THOSE NEED TO BE COMPREHENSIVE. IT IS A CONCERN AND IT SEEMS TO BE IT YARD A LITTLE BIT SIMPLY WITH THE OFFERING OF THE OVERALL DENSITY THAT IS OVER 1OO UNITS. YOU CANNOT SET THAT BECAUSE OF THE TREES. IS A NICE POLITE OFFERING BUT IT WOULD NEVER BE BUILT. THE HEIGHT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT I FIGURE I HAVE IS ONLINE. CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
THAT EVENING AND THANK YOU. THIS IS HUCK HENSLEY. I LIVE ABOUT TWO BLOCKS FROM THE PROPOSED CANOPY DEVELOPMENT. I AM IN FAVOR OF IT. THEY COULD HAVE PROPOSED ALMOST TWICE AS MUCH HOUSING THERE. TWICE AS MANY UNITS. I THINK IT IS A GOOD.LOOKING DEVELOPMENT. I THINK IT IS IN KEEPING WITH TFIE NEIGHBORHOOD BACK THERE BEHIND THE O'REILLY. I THINK IT IS MUCH BETTER THAN MORE OFFICE BUILDINGS WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED FOR THAT SITE. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY DENSE AND MUCH BIGGER. PROBABLY TALLER THAN WIIAT IS PROPOSED.

I'M KIND OF AFRAID OF THE CHANGE. I LIVE CLOSE TO IT. IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON ME

BUT I THINK I CAN DEAL WITH IT BUT I'M HAPPY TO HAVE MORE HOUSING AVAILABLE IN THE CITY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WILL GO BACK IN CHAMBERS .

THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN MEN. MY NAME IS CASEY AND OLIVIA -- AVENUE. I LIVE EARLY CLOSE TO THIS PROJECT AND NOT IN FAVOR OF IT AS PLAN. I'M WILLING TO COMPROMISE TYPICALLY. THE COST FOR TALL BUILDINGS WITH THE GENERAL PLAN -.

ENSURES THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL BE SENSITIVE TO THE HEIGHTS OF SURROLTNDING HOMES. THIS PROJECT IS CLEARLY WAY OUT OF COMPLIANCE, PLANNING

CHAIR SET AT THE LAST MEETING, I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH THE DIFFERENT IMPACTS, INCLUDING HEIGHT. HE ALSO SAID T FIND IT IMPOSSIBLE TO ACCEPT THIS PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN. THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER DEBORAH BURNS AND SAID, I DO THINK IT DOES NOT FIT WITHIN OUR GENERAL PLAN.

JACOB T{AS SHOWED US SCALED RENDITIONS OF WHAT IT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, THE BEFORE AND AFTER. THIS ONE IIERE I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY, EXCUSE ME. IT SHOWS MY NEIGHBORS BACKYARD. AND THIS LOOMING EDIFICE IN THEIR NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD.

THIS EDIFICE. THIS IS EVEN WITH THE AMENDED 25 FEET SETBACKS BUT IF ANY OF YOU

LIVED HERE, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO GIVE UP SUCH A VIEW AND HAVE SUCH AN EDIFICE BLOCK IT? TWO WEEKS AGO, THEY WERE LISTENING TO THE HEIGHT CONCERNS AND NOT EVEN ADDRESSING THIS POINT TO IMPROVE IT. WAS THE DECISION LIKELY MADE PRIOR TO TFIE MEETING? WE HOPE THE CITY COL]NCIL CAREFULLY CONSIDERS OUR MAIN POINT REGARDING THE HEIGHT AND COMPLIANCE BEFORE MAKING A DECISION.

HAVE A MODIFIED PLAN WE THINK IS FAIR.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 20 SECONDS.

WE ARE HAPPY TO PRESENT THIS PROPOSAL TO YOU AT YOUR CONVENIENCE. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WIL GO OUT TO ZOOM . IF YOU

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CANOPY PROJECT, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. THING DONE, -- SEEING NONE, I WLL GO BACK IN CHAMBERS. SEEING

NONE,I WILL GO BACK TO SOME SECRET
FIELLO. THIS IS SETH HANLEY. I AM NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION THIS EVENING. I'M SPEAKING SIMPLY AS A RESIDENT OF SEBASTOPOL. AS A LICENSED ARCHITECT AND DESIGNER WITH 25 YEARS EXPERIENCE, I HAVE SPENT MUCH TIME STUDYING THE DRAWINGS THAT WERE PRESENTED. IT IS MY OPINION THAT DESPITE

THE THREE STORIES PROPOSED, THE DESIGN IS SENSITIVE TO THE LOCATION, TO THE NEIGHBORS. IT HAS BEEN WELL STUDIED AND THOROUGHLY VETTED WITH MULTIPLE

HLNDRED PAGES OF EIR THAT DETERMINE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT EITHER WERE MINIMAL OR COULD BE EASILY MITIGATED. SO I THINK TN,4F&Vb'OF THE AMOLTNT OF HOUSING WE NEED AND T}IE ISSUES WE HAVE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT AS A CITIZEN OF THE COMMUNITY.

I AM ALYSSA HANLEY. I ADVISED HER OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IN SEBASTOPOL. I AM A LICENSED ARCHITECT AND I COME TO YOU AS A CITIZEN, NOT AS VICE CHAIR. I'M ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TAKE A CAREFUL LOOK AT THE DRAWINGS FOR THE NEAREST RESIDENCE IS OVER 90 FEET AWAY FROM THE BUILDINGS. THE IDEA THAT SOMEBODY IS LOOKTNG INTO YOUR YARD, I VALUE THEIR EYESIGHT. I WISH I HAD A BIT WE NEED ENTRY-LEVEL HOUSING AND WE NEED FOLKS WHO ARE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS WONDERFUL TOWN. WE NEED TO

MAKE SPACE FOR THAT, WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF IT AND WE HOPE THE COTINCIL WILL APPROVE IT.

THANK YOU TO YOUR BOTH FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WILL GO BACK IN CHAMBERS .

I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO IS GOING TO GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE IN THE YEAR AND ANOTHER ONE GRADUATING NEXT MONTH. I THINK ABOUT THEM MOVING BACK HERE. I APPRECIATE COLINCILMEMBERS AND THE QUESTIONS ABOUT INCOME LEVELS. DENSITY DOES NOT MEAN AFFORDABILITY. AND THE NUMBER OF -- THAT DOES NOT MEAN AFFORDABILITY EITF{ER. SO MY QUESTION IS, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT I THINK IS REALLY GOING TO BE PART OF YOUR LEGACY IN THIS TOWN. SO HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF

EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE THERE AND ARE PROTECTING AFFORDABILITY? AND HOW ARE WE THINKING ABOUT MAKING SURE -- THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, STEVE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL NEXT, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. I CAN HEAR YOU. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
NO, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE.

MARGARET SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF -- I ruST WANTED TO -. I THINK THAT IT IS I INAUDIBLE - MUFFLED ] THAT HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL. I'VE HEARD OTHER PEOPLE SAY IT. YOU KNOW, AND TO THE PURPOSE. YOU KNOW, COMPLAINING THAT THE HOUSING ELEMENT IS SIMPLY NOT, EVERYONE HAS TO IN EVERY MLTNICIPALITY. I THINK SEBASTOPOL STANDS OUT FROM THERE. AND THERE ASSUMPTION TO COMPLY WITH THE HOUSING ELEMENT. I WOULD URGE THAT TI{E CITY APPROVED THIS PROJECT AND START AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT WE IIAVE A LOT OF FAMILIES .. I HAVE TO SAY, ALMOST ALL OF THE FOLKS COME FROM OUTSIDE OF TOWN. I KNOW THEY ARE SITTING COURTSIDE. I INAUDIBLE - MUFFLED ] UP IN SEBASTOPOL.

THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO DO ANYTHING, EVEN TO RENT. ANYTHING TO MAKE THIS A FAMILY COMMTINITY, I APPRECIATE IT FOR THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WILL GO BACK IN CHAMBERS . IF

ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, SEEING NONE, I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM.IF THERE'S ANYBODY ONLINE THAT WOULD

LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, ON THE CANOPY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTLTNIry. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY OR PLEASE GET MY ATTENTION. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH BUT WILL COME BACK TO THE COLINCIL FOR DISCUSSION AND DECISION. I SEE COUNCILMEMBER HINTON YOU HAVE YOUR HAND READY THERE. GO AHEAD.

I WILL GO EARLY ON THIS ONE. I JUST HAVE TO SAY I AM LUCKY ENOUGH TO }IAVE BOUGHT MY HOUSE 30 YEARS AGO IN THIS TOWN. I RAISED MY TWO CHILDREN THERE WFIEN I WAS -- ONE WILL BE 30 THIS YEAR AND THE OTHER WILL BE26 THIS YEAR. THEY WENT THROUGH ALL THREE SEBASTOPOL SCHOOLS. THEY ALL WANT TO LIVE IN THIS TOWN. IT IS HER DREAM TO BUY A PLACE. I ALSO WILL TAKE CARE OF MY MOTHER. SHE IS 80 AND SHE ruST FELL AND BROKE HER WRIST AND SHE LIVES WITH MY SISTER. SO THE THINGS I LOVE THIS PROJECT ARE 80 UNITS, SOLAR ALL ELECTRIC WITH CAR CHARGERS.

THE ADU, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, THERE IS AN ORDINANCE WHO DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO PUT AIRBNB'S IN ADUs. SO THAT WOULD LOCK THOSE IF PEOPLE TAKE THOSE ACTIONS. WE PASSED THAT MANY YEARS AGO. I WAS PROUD TO HELP PASS Tr{AT ORDTNANCE. WE ARE SAVING 111 TREES AND THAT HAS BEEN WOB{#hQIdNINCE 2019. AND I JUST DID A LITTLE LOOK WHILE I WAS LISTENING TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE

MY AUNTIE NORA GREW UP ON -- IN OUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW, PROBABLY SOMEBODY ELSE OWNS IT, IS WORTH ONE .7 MILLION. I AM SORRY. I ruST FEEL LIKE I WAS HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THE CHARTER SCHOOL COMING FORTH. AND WE ALLOW THAT PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD. MANY PEOPLE HAVE CHILDREN GOING THERE. THE TRAILS, I LOVE TO WALK THAT TRAIL 2116. AND I AM THRILLED WITH THIS PROJECT. I AM JUST GOING TO

GO EARLY AND ON RECORD THAT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE KIND OF PROJECT THAT SEBASTOPOL NEEDS. AND WE HAVE GOT OUR LOW INCOME. I HOPE ONE OF MY KIDS QUALIFIES. THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. AND I ruST HAVE TO SAY THAT. IT MAKES ME REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS GOING TO OUR CITY. I'M SORRY THAT

SOME NEIGHBORS FEEL LIKE THEY MIGHT HAVE PEOPLE LOOKING THROUGH THEIR WINDOWS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IS AN ISSUE. I KNOW TI{ERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. BUT I REALLY HAD TO SPEAK FROM MY HEART ON THIS ONE. I HAVE WATCHED THIS PROJECT THAT I'VE NOT BEEN TO IT IN A LONG TIME. OH, BY THE WAY, THEY LET --

FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE QUITE SERIOUS IN THIS TOWN, I DID DELIVER MEALS DURING COVID. THAT WAS VERY GRACIOUS. MAYBE THIS IS BECAUSE COVID HIT AND I'M GIVING THEM TOO MUCH CREDIT. I GUESS I HAVE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS ANOTHER THING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER MAURER, GO AHEAD.

I PULL TOGETFIER MY THOUGHTS. I CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE SAY THIS COMPLIES WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN. SPECIFICALLY DUE TO THE SCALE. AND I BELIEVE TFIE COMMI.JNITY DESIGN POLICY 1 POINT TO TO ENSURE THAT NEW RESIDENTIAL AND

COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS SENSITIVE TO THE SURROUNDING ARCHITECTURE ryPOGRAPHY, LANDSCAPING, CHARACTER, SCALE. AND AMBIENCE OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE ARE ALL ONE-STORY HOMES. AND I CONTACTED

THE COLINTY TODAY TO FIND OUT IF ANYBODY IN THAT AREA IN THE COLINTY AREA COULD BUILD A THREE-STORY HOME. AND THEY COULD NOT. I MEAN, THEY COULD BUILD THREE STORIES IF THEY HAD A FLAT ROOF. THEY ARE RESTRICTED TO 30 FEET. SO I WANT TO SAY I THINK THERE IS A LOT TO LIKE ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ruST, I REALLY DID HEAR A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, I HEARD NO ATTEMPTS AT ATTEMPTING TO MITIGATE THE HEIGHT FOR THE NEIGHBOR'S COMPLAINT. AND I THINK

THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE AMENABLE TO JUST A FEW OF THE HOUSES WITHIN THEIR BEING MOVED DOWN TO TWO STORY PRESENTS TI{E ORIGINAL PROPOSAL INCLUDED TWO

STRAIGHT BUILDINGS, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY IT CANNOT GO BACK TO PLANNING AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW YOU CAN MAKE THESE TWO STORY. I DO APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS. I APPRECIATE THE TREES THAT WERE PRESERVED. I LIKE THE PROPERTY. I AM GLAD THAT PROPERTY, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, IT IS GOING TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IT IS NOT JUST RESTRICTED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I WOULD ruST LIKE TO SEE IT SLIGHTLY MITIGATED. I DO THINK TI{ERE IS A LOT TO LIKE THERE. I DO NOT THINK IT WAS

DISCUSSED ADEQUATELY BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN TERMS OF THE HEIGHT CONCERNS.

I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SEE IF WE CAN GET AN ANSWER WITH THE GENERAL PLAN QUESTION. IS THERE A BRIEF ANSWER THAT CORRESPONDS THAT JOHN J.

CAN GTVE US? WE'RE HEARING A CONCERN THAT THIS PLAN IS OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.

I WILL FIELD THIS ONE. AND ACTUALLY, OUR PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRS, THE

CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF HE WANTS TO JOIN IN ON THIS IN TERMS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION PERSPECTIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, IN REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR, THE COMMLTNIry DESIGN SECTION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT TI{E PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSED, THE QUESTION WAS RAISED. HOW DO WE ASSESS THIS? WE TALKED ABOUT IT. THERE IS A LARGER CONTEXT. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CAME UP IN COMMENT FROM AN HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE. THAT IS IN THE CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WHEN THIS CAME TO PRELIMINARY REVIEW, IT WAS MOSTLY TWO STORY. IT WAS A LOT CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINES AND THE BIG THING WE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY WAS, BIGGER SETBACKS. TIM REALITY

IS IF YOU HAVE BIGGER SETBACKS AND THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO, AND ALSO THE OTHER THING WAS TO RETAIN MORE OF THE TREES. BECAUSE THEY ARFPIMVffi}SE TREES WITH A LOT OF SCREENING AND SHADING POTENTIAL. SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER. I DO WANT TO SAY, THEY COULD'VE GONE THROUGH THE SB 45 PROCESS INSTEAD OF WORKING WITH TIIE CITY ON THIS. THEY ARE NOT THAT KIND OF DEVELOPER. SO THEY I{AVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH JOHN FOR THE LAST YEAR PLUS. AND BEFORE THAT, WHAT THEY DID IT FROM THE PRELIMINARY REVIEW WAS TO PULL THOSE AND CREATE SIGNIFICANT SETBACKS. I KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THEY

HAVE GONE THROUGH AND LOOKED AT WHETHER OR NOT THE APPROXIMATE HOUSE IS A GARAGE VERSUS A HOUSE IN TERMS OF HOW THEY ARE RESETTING THE BUILDINGS. SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE CONSIDERED THAT. WE DO NOT HAVE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT SAY YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SEE BUILDINGS, RIGHT? WE LIVE IN A TOWN. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE BUILDINGS. THE GENERAL PLAN COMPONENT OF THE

COMMLTNITY DESIGN, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS TFIE RESPONSE OF WE ARE GOING TO BACK AWAY AND GIVE BIGGER SETBACKS. THAT DOES RESULT IN WE ARE SAVING MORE TREES.

TWO THIRDS OF THIS SITE IS OPEN SPACE. IF YOU WENT BACK TO TWO STORY, YOU

WOULD HAVE ONE THIRD OF OPEN SPACE AND GO BACK TO -- AN KARI,I AM GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU FOR A MINUTE . THE REAL QUESTION, WHICH I THINK IS RELEVANT TO ALL OF US IS WHETHER WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT VIOLATES OUR GENERAL PLAN. YES OR NO? WE ruST NEED TO KNOW.

OKAY, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO. THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS NOTED DID TALK ABOUT, SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE HOUSTNG ELEMENT THAT IS ADOPTED. TWO. LESS THAN 80 LINITS. WHEN YOU DO SIGNIFICANT FINDINGS FOR I{EALTH AND SAFETY THAT

YOU COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE ADU LINITS ON PRINT THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH BOTH THE ZONING AND THE GENERAL PLAN. IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION, WHICH I THINK IS THE MAIN QUESTION WITH THE CONSISTENCY RAISED TONIGHT. IT WAS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE COMMLINITY DESIGN. THAT IS ONE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSED AT LENGTH AT THEIR MEETING. AND WHAT THAT MEANT AND HOW THAT SHOULD BE INTERPRETED. THEY DID ADD A FINDING TO, I WLL READ THAT -- WHAT THAT WAS BUT IT IS IN THE RESOLUTION FOR YOU TONIGHT. IT IS IN THE RESOLUTION THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPTED REGARDING RECEIVING 1,2, SENSITIVE TO TI{E SURROI.]NDING ARCHITECTURE, TYPOGRAPHY, AND THIS RUNNING NEIGHBORHOOD. THE FINDING MADE

WAS THAT IT IS THE SAME SCALE AND LOWER THAN THE ADJACENT OFFICE BUILDINGS

BID AT A SIGNIFICANT SETBACKS FROM ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES,IT BREAKS DOWN THE MASSING BY PRESENTING 20 SEPARATE STRUCTURES FOR THE UNITS

BUT IT RETAINS THE MAJORITY OF TREES BETWEEN THE SITE OF ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND MAINTATNS TWO THIRDS OF TT{E SITE IS OPEN SPACE AND WILL BE PLANTING ADDITIONAL TREES. THEY DID FIND IT WITH CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.

THANK YOU BUT I THINK THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION I WANTED ANSWERED. LET'S BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL TABLE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? ANYONE? COLINCILMEMBER MCLEWIS?
I ruST WANTED TO SAY, I MEAN, I FEEL FOR EVERYONE COMMENTING HERE. CITY LINES TO COLINTY LINES, RURAL AREA. AT THE END OF MY STREET HERE IN TOWN, MY TOWN WAS BUILT RECENTLY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THREE STORIES TOURING OVER A ONE STORY. MY NEIGI{BORS LOST ALL OF THEIR -- I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT BUT IT

IS SO COMPLICATED AND IT FEELS LIKE NO MATTER WHAT DECISION WE MAKE, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE THAT IS IMPACTED NEGATIVELY. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT WE HAVE NEEDED FOR SO LONG. I KNOW FOR SOME, THAT MAY NOT MATTER. AT THE END OF THE DAY,I FEEL LIKE THE DEVELOPERS

HAVE BEEN, THEY HAVE BEEN CONSIDERATE ANYTHING'S BUT I LINDERSTAND EVERYONE DOES NOT AGREE WITH THAT BUT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED HOUSING. AND I ALSO HAVE A SON THAT IS NEARTNG THE AGE OF MOVING OUT. WE THINK ABOUT THAT ALL TFIE TIME. HOW WILL WE EVER KEEP TFIEM HERE BECAUSE IT IS SO NOT AFFORDABLE. AND I ruST WANTED TO SAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT JUST BECAUSE WE NEED IT. THE CITIZENS HERE NEEDED. WE HAVE LIVED OUT OF STATE FOR IO YEARS SAVING OUR MONEY JUST TO BUY A HOME HERE. THAT IS HOW BADLY WE WANTED TO LIVE YOUR. WE LIVED IN A STATE WE NEVER WANT TO LIVE INTO SO WE COULD AFFORD TO SAVE OUR MONEY TO BE HERE. THE IDEA WE COULD HAVE HOUSING AT THE COST T}IEY ARE SAYING. I LINDERSTAND THE AVERACF'B&JO&OdT THE

END OF THE DAY, -- BENEFIT I AM SORRY, I KNOW THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO HEAR. I SUPPORT IT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I AM SORRY. I SEE YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MAURER . VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN, WAS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY? AND THEN I WILL MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU.

YES, THE GENTLEMAN LIVING ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. HIS NAME IS TROY. HE MENTIONED THERE IS A TREE THAT WAS PLANTED A WHILE AGO. IT IS A REDWOOD TREE.

THIS TREE WAS PLANTED AS A DEDICATION FOR THE SHED OF THE O'REILLY BUILDING.

THIS PROJECT IS REMOVING THAT TREE AND PUTTING A THREE-STORY BUILDING THERE. I TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER ABOUT MITIGATION FOR THAT. THAT TREE WILL REMAIN AND IT WILL BE MOOT. I AM SEEING THE DEVELOPERS THINK, YES. THAT CAN BE MITIGATED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, COLINCILMEMBER MAURER. THERE WAS AN INTERACTION AND SAMANTHA. CITY VENTURES. AND OF COURSE, IF THEY ARE GOING TO THAT PARTICULAR MODIFICATION. I AM GOING TO WEIGH IN AT THIS POINT. I AM ALWAYS STRUGGLING

WITH THESE QUESTIONS WHEN THEY AFFECT HOMEOWNERS AND INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE EXISTING MEMBERS OF OUR COMMLTNITY. I LINDERSTAND THOSE CONCERNS. WE HAVE

ENCOLTNTERED TFIEM A LOT AND MANY, MANY DIFFERENT ARENAS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO ENCOUNTER THEM. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE,IT IS BALANCTNG THE INTERESTS. AND WHEN I LOOK AT ALL OF THE INTEREST WE HAVE TO BALANCE WITH

CITY DECISION-MAKERS HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION FOR OUR TOWN, FOR OUR ENTIRE

COMMUNITY, NOT INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS,I HAVE TO WEIGH IN IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. THAT IS THE DIRECTION I HAVE TO GO DESPITE THE FACT THAT I

UNDERSTAND THAT IS GOING TO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A NUMBER OF HOMEOWNERS IN OUR TOWN. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IN TERMS OF THE CITY HOUSING ELEMENT, THERE ARE ELEVATORS PLANNED. I KNOW THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED. THAT IS MY PERSPECTIVE. AND COMMENTARY BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE HERE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL?
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. SO WITH INFORMATION HE PASSED AROUND, WITH CONSIDERATION FOR THAT TREE. I KNOW TREES ARE SO SENSITIVE. IT IS IN A PLAY AREA.

I AM WONDERTNG IF IT IS IN A PLAY AREA, SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE -- I WANT TO REMIND ALL OF US WE HAVE A HUGE AGENDA. I LINDERSTAND THIS IS SUPER

IMPORTANT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION GETS BACK I ACTUALLY DO NOT KNOW WHICH TREE IT IS THAT I DO NOT SEE IT. WE ARE GOING TO TFIE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IF THIS WAS FOR. TO LOOK AT THAT TREE IN PARTICULAR AND WORK WITH PLANNING STAFF TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.

I WILL ASK IF IT IS IN A PLAY AREA, THAT IS WHY DOES NOT SEEM LIKE THERE MIGHT BE

SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT BUT IF WE COULD CONSIDER THAT, I THTNK THAT WOULD BE -. AN ABSOLUTELY.

DOES TI{E PLANNING STAFF KNOW WHICH TREE IT IS?
I AM SURE THEY CAN POINTED OUT.

COMMAND -- SAMANTHA,IF YOU CAN STAY FOR JUST A MINUTE. IF THERE IS OTHER INPUT FROM COUNCILMEMBERS, DO THEY HAVE A METHOD? WOULD THAT BE THROUGH YOU, JOHN J.? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH .

I WLL REQUEST WE GET THE SLIDE PRESENTATION.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE IT BUT THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL SLIDES THAT SAMANTHA WENT OVER.

OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION?
I WANT TO MAKE MY POSITION CLEAR. GOING TO THREE STORIES. I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE IT COMPLIES WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE ON THIS PROJECT? I AM LOOKING FOR A MOTION. MARY GOURLEY, WITH THE MOTION TO BE -.I'M SORRY?
THERE IS A CORRECTION TO THE RESOLUTION.

OKAY.

YES, THANK YoU. THERE ARE Two TEXT CORRECTIONS. oN PAGE NINE Q&trJd&os DOCUMENT, IT READS APRIL 21 OF 2023. THAT SHOULD R.EAD NOVEMBER NINE OF 2422.

I AM SORRY. PAGE NINE?
THE ENTIRE STAFF -.

THE RESOLUTION? THAT IS PART OF TFIE RESOLUTION?
YES.

THERE'S A DATE THERE THATNEEDS TO BE CORRECTED?
RECORD IT IS NOTED OF APRIL2I,2O23. SHOULD BE NOVEMBERg,ZOL2.

OKAY,I DO NOT SEE THE REFERENCE, BUT I WILL ASK MARY GOURLEY TO MAKE THAT CHANGE . ANY OTHER CHANGE?
YES, THE ONE ADDITIONAL ONE. PAGE 15, IT IS NOVEMBER NINE, 2023. THIS WOULD ALSO REFLECT NOVEMBER 9, 2022.

ALL RIGHT. MARY GOURLEY, ARE YOU FOLLOWING THAT? OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE TWO CHANGES? OKAY. I THINK I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION. IS THAT SIMPLY TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTIONS AS PROPOSED?

THE MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE AND ADOPT THE RESOLUTION CERTIFYING THE

ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THE SEQUEL AND ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION FOR THE ENTITLEMENT FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT WAS OBTAINED IN THAT. THE 80 CONDOMINIUM LINITS IN THE COMMON AREA AND THIS INCLUDES THE BUILDING HEIGHT.

AS AMENDED, THE RESOLUTION BY STAFF WITH CORRECTING THE DATES TO NOVEMBER 9,2022.

SO MOVED.

I WILL SECOND AUNT.
. HAVE A MOTION BY VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER McLEWIS.

THE MOTION AS ruST STATED.

I AM SORRY, WITH THE DATE CHANGES IDENTIFIED.

CORRECT. THE NUMBERS I ruST READ, CORRECT. COUNCILMEMBER HINTON -- COLINCILMEMBER MAURER. NO. COUNCILMEMBER McLEWIS. YES. VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN . YES. COTINCILMEMBER HINTON . YES.

THE MOTION PASSES WITH ONE MEMBER BEING IN OPPOSITION. THE TAKE A REALLY BRIEF 10 MINUTE BREAK. THANK YOU.

I THE EVENT IS ON A RECESS. THE SESSION WILL RECONVENE IN 10 MINUTES. CAPTIONER oN STANDBY. l
RECORDING STOPPED.

LET'S SETTLE IN SO WE CAN FINISH OUR MEETING.

RECORDING IN PROGRESS.

THANK YOU. HELLO, EVERYONE. LET'S SETTLE IN HERE. WE CAN RECONVENE THE MEETING AND MOVE FORWARD. FOR THIS VERY SUBSTANTIAL AGENDA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO ONCE STAFF IS SEATED, I WILL WAIT FOR THE OKAY FROM I.T. WE WILL THEN GET THIS MEETING BACK IN ORDER. ALL RIGHT GOOD I GOT THE THUMBS-UP FROM I.T. GREAT. ALL RIGHT, FOLKS. WE ARE RECONVENING THE MEETING AFTER TAKING A BRIEF RAKE. IT IS ABOUT 8:50. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE FEE REQUEST

FROM THE SEBASTOPOL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BUT THIS IS AN ITEM THAT HAS BEEN PUT FORWARD FROM A PLANNING MEETING. MARY GOURLEY, WAS THERE SOMETHTNG YOU WANTED TO SAY IN TI{E AGENDA PACKET? THERE WAS A REFERENCE FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THIS ITEM. I WILL REMIND EVERYONE THE FIRST STAFF REPORT IS AVAILABLE IN THE MARCH 19 AGENDA PACKET. THIS IS THE ITEM WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY BUT IT SHOWS CITY ADMINISTRATION AS THE MOVING INDTVIDUALS. WITH THAT BE MARY GOURLEY OR THE CITY MANAGER?
VERY WILL TAKE TFIE LEAD ON THIS ONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MADAME MAYOR, AND CITY MANAGER. THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAVE REQUESTED -- TYPICALLY, WE HAD SUPPORTED IN THE PAST, THE BENEFIT GRANTS.

SINCE WE ARE NOT DOING THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT GRANTS, T}IE CHAMBER HAS, FOR

THIS YEAR, THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL FIRST STAFF TIME AND PUBLIC WORKS WITH OVERTIME, POLICE DEPARTMENT, OVER TIME. IN THE EVENT FEES T}IAT WOULD NEVER BE CHARGED IS $14,781. THEY HAVE REQUESTED A WAIVER OF THAT. AT THE WRITING OF THE STAFF REPORT, STAFF REACHED OUT TO CITY STAFF TO SEE IF THIS FEdQAffiTTUNC THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE TT{E BUDGET. AT THAT TIME, THAT I}{DICATED THEY COULD NOT. SINCE THE WRITING OF THIS REPORT, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT AGAIN. BOTH DEPARTMENTS HAVE INDICATED, DUE TO SOME COST SAVINGS IN TF{EIR STAFFING AS WELL AS SOME MATERIALS, THAT THEY BELIEVE THEY

WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE IT WITHIN THEIR BUDGET BUT IT WOULD NOT REQUIRE A BLINCH OF AMENDED RESOLUTION AT THIS TIME. SO BASED UPON THAT, THE

COUNCIL CAN EITHER DENY THE REQUEST THAT WAS ORIGINALLY STATED, APPROVE THE

ENTIRE WAIVER OF THE PERMIT FEES, OR APPROVE WATVER OF A PORTION OF THE PERMIT FEES. THAT IS THE ACTION FOR THE COI.INCIL TONIGHT. TO DETERMINE WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST WITH THE WAIVER OF FEES.

SO ruST TO BE CLEAR, I HEARD YOU HEARD FROM DEPARTMENTS THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THESE REQUESTS WITH THE MORE CURRENT BUDGETS. I AM LOOKING AT THE ITEM HERE. ARE THERE PORTIONS OF THIS THAT ARE ACTUALLY OUT-OF-POCKET FOR EXPENSES THAT WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED?
SO THE STAFF TIME IS TFIE BIGGEST COST TO THIS BID WOULD BE OUT.OF-POCKET FOR STAFF TIME WHICH IS ABOUT 3800. AND THE POLICE TIME IS ABOUT 5600. DUE TO SALARY

SAVINGS, THAT IS BEEN STATED IT WOULD BE ABLF, TO BE RECOVERED WITHIN THE BUDGET BASED ON THE D SALARIES.

SO THEN THAT WOULD, THE REMAINING AMOT]NT IN THIS 14,78T -- THIS REQUEST, I SEE IT AS A MATERIALS ITEM?
IT WOULD BE MATERIALS AS WELL AS PERMIT FEES DID NOT OUT.OF-POCKET. THE PERMIT FEES, BUT THE CITY WOULD BE SAVING FOR THAT. IT WILL BE OUT-OF-POCKET FOR $4500 OR THE COUNCIL HAS THE OPTION TO CONSIDER THAT IN THE CHAMBER PAINT THE MATERIAL FEES AND RECOVER THE STAFF TIME. THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE ACTIONS.

OKAY. SO THE ONLY OUT-OF-POCKET ELEMENT IN THIS TOTAL MOBILE REQUEST WAS THE $3500 FOR MATERIALS?
THAT IS THE ONLY OUT-OF-POCKET.

I'M GOING TO LOOK AT OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS HERE. YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? YES, VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN? THANK YOU, MADAME MAYOR. NOT FOR STAFF, BUT DEFINITELY WITH THE CHAMBER REPRESENTATIVES HERE. TO MAKE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THE MOMENT? I WILL ALSO, I WILL ASK THAT THE BUDGET IN THIS PACKET, SINCE IT IS A MONEY ITEM.

MAYBE WE'LL HAVE MARIAH COME TO THE PODIUM SO WE CAN HEAR FROM HER. THANK YOU.

IS IT ON? OKAY. YEAH, SFIE IS WITH THE CHAMBER BOARD PRESIDENT. THIS IS REALLY NICE TO HEAR. HOPEFULLY, THIS WILL PASS. I THINK I'VE WRITTEN YOU LETTERS AND I

AM SPOKEN ABOUT HOW MUCH GROWTH THIS CHAMBER HAS TINDERGONE IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS SINCE I STARTED WITH 65% INCREASE IN MEMBERSHIP. THAT MEANS OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS SEEKING SUPPORT IN COMMLINITY. THAT IS WHAT THE CHAMBER WANT TO PROVIDE. OUR JOB IS A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS TO SUPPORT COMMERCE AND BUSINESS AND TOURISM. IF SO STOCK REVENUE IS YOUR NUMBER ONE

SOURCE OF INCOME IS THE CITY, SUPPORTING US IN SUPPORTING EVERYONE AND YOURSELVES BECAUSE IT COMES RIGHT BACK TO YOU. THE MORE INCOME WE RECEIVE

FROM THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL, WHICH IS OUR ONLY ANNUAL FUNDRAISER, THAT MONEY GOES TOWARD TARGETING OFFENSE, BRINGING PEOPLE TO TOWN. AGAIN,IN THE PAST 18 MONTHS, WE HAVE ADDED, THE CHAMBER HAS HOSTED TWO WITH THE NIGHT,

TWO SIDEWALK SALES, IN ADDITION TO THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING AND THE COMMLTNITY AWARD. I PLAN TO CONTINUE TO DO MORE WORK TO BRING PEOPLE TO TOWN. IT IS THE TOURISM PIECE AS WELL. WHEN TFIE GENTLEMAN SPOKE ON YOUR

BUDGET AT THE LAST MEETING, AT THE END OF HIS COMMENTS, HE SAID, I THINK YOUR BEST BET IS TO GO FOCUS ON THE VISITORS. WE ARE NOT JUST A CHAMBER, WE ARE A VISITOR CENTER TOO. AND I THINK IF WE CAN FIND CREATTVE WAYS IN SEBASTOPOL, THAT IS WHAT THE CHAMBER IS WORKING ON. APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL IS NOT ruST ABOUT THE WEEKEND . IT IS ABOUT THE VALUE THAT THAT FESTIVAL, 78 YEARS OF ITS HISTORY. IT BRINGS PEOPLE TO TOWN. THAT IS PART OF THE BRANDING OF SEBASTOPOL.

SO YOUR SUPPORT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. IT WILL COME BACK TO Y'ALL I BELIEVE.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER HINTON. Page4l of 69 SO WE FOR TONIGHT WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 3500. AND I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED THE CHAMBER AND THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL. I WOULD LIKE TO THROW A PROPOSITION OUT THERE TO THE CHAMBER BOARD. IF WE WAIVE THE FEES TONIGHT AND OF THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL IS SUCCESSFUL , LET THIS HAPPEN.

YEAH, MAYBE TFIE CHAMBER BOARD WOULD CONSIDER AFTER-TFIE-FACT, WHEN THEY ADD EVERYTHING UP, THEY CAME BACK TO THE CITY WITH A HARD PASSIVE 3500. ruST THROWING rT OUT THERE. I DON'T YOU CANNOT SPEAK FOR TFIE FULL BOARD. I INAUDIBLE - OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ]
FOR WHAT THE CITY STANDS FOR. I'M KIND OF THROWING THAT OUT TFIERE.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
YES, THANK YOU, MADAME MAYOR. SOME OF THESE OTHER QUESTIONS I'VE ASKED TO LEAVE FOR OUR PRESENTATION. I WANT EVERYONE TO IINDERSTAND BUT I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE CHAMBER. ULTIMATELY, I AM UP THIS IS OWNER AND A MEMBER. THE

PROBLEMS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IS YOU ALL KIND OF NEW, GTVEN WHERE WE WERT AT

THE END OF THE LAST FISCAL YEAR WHAT THE PRESSING CONCERNS AND MONEY PROBLEMS THAT WE WOULD BE FACING RFID YOU ARE -- CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF HELPING OTHER BUSINESSES BECOME SUCCESSFUL, zuGHT? INSERTING -- INCLUDING YOUR OWN. HOW DOES THAT STACK UP WITH HOW WE WILL HAD TO REDUCE OUR 501(C)3? I'M NOT LTNDERSTANDING THAT.

I DO NOT SEE THE PROBLEMS AS COMPETITION FOR FUNDING BUT I THINK WE ARE ALL EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. EACH OF THE NONPROFITS PROVIDE A VALUABLE SERVICE TO OUR COMMITTEE. THE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE PILLAR PIECE OF TFIE PUZZLE IS THE JOB TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. IT IS APPLES AND ORANGES, REALLY. WE ARE ALL A PART OF THE TEAM IS HOW I SEE IT. I DO NOT SEE THAT AS A COMPETITION TYPE ELEMENT.

OKAY. I'VE A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. GO AFmAD.

AS FAR AS THE AMOLINT OF WHAT ACTUALLY COMES BACK TO THE BUSINESSES FROM THE PROCEEDS OF THIS PARTICULAR EVENT, WHAT IS THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT? I HAVE

NEVER COME ACROSS IT
IT IS NOT A DOLLAR AMOUNT, SO TO SPEAK. THE VALUE IN, WHEN I STATED TFIAT

SUPPORTING APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL AND INCOME RECEIVED FROM THE FESTIVAL,

THAT MONEY GOES BACK INTO SUPPORTTNG THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, I AM THING

THAT MONEY GOES TOWARD MARKETING EVENTS THAT ULTIMATELY BRING THE

BUSINESS TO RESTAURANTS, MORE INCOME FOR THAT IS THE SALES TAX REVENUE THAT GOES TO THE CITY. I CANNOT PLACE A DOLLAR AMOLTNT ON THAT. I THINK THAT IS AN OVERARCHING VALUE.

OKAY. TWO OTHER QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

SO GIVEN THE CURRENT SITUATION WE ARE IN FINANCIALLY, AND KNOWING THE FACT

THIS WILL BE A HEAVY ASK FOR WHERE WE ARE PHYSICALLY, WHAT EFFORTS HAVE YOU MADE TO REDUCE YOUR COST FOR THIS PARTICULAR FESTIVAL?
I REACFIED OUT TO SANITATION FIER REPLACED SEVEN DOLLARS FOR PORT-A-POTTIES.

AS OF LAST YEAR, THERE WAS NEVER A LINE AT THE PORT-A-POTTIES AND I THOUGHT WE HAD TOO MANY. LINDA CULLITON MADE A DECISION TO NOT OPEN UP TTIE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. SHE DID NOT WANT TO CLEAN TI{EM AFTER THE FESTIVAL. SO WHEN I REACI{ED OUT TO PACIFIC SANITATION, I TOLD THEM, LISTEN. WE WANT LESS PORT-APOTTIES BECAUSE WE NEED TO SAVE MONEY. WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. AND I

SAID, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CUTTING, WE ARE ON A TIGHT BUDGET AND WE WILL NOT SUPPORT THEM IN THE CITY THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A FINANCIAL CRISIS. I'M TRY TO FIND EVERY WAY I CAN TO REDUCE OUR COSTS. IN TURN, HE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I LOVE THIS FESTTVAL. I LOVE SEBASTOPOL. I NEED TO GIVE YOU THE EXACT AMOUNT OF PORT-A-POTTIES YOU HAD LAST YEAR. DO NOT OPEN THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. IF THERE'S A SWITCH PROBLEM OR PARKING PROBLEM, IT WILL COST YOU MARKET AND I WILL TAKE $2OOO OFF YOUR BILL. THAT IS ONE EXAMPLE.

ON THE LAST QUESTION IS, IT WAS RAISED BY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIFA&EQI/& WHY WE NEED -- SO WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS. i KNOW YOU HAD QUITE A FEW VOL'IjN-TEER.S. WHY

CANNOT THE VOLLINTEERS BE POSITIONED WHERE YOU CAN ADDRESS SAFETY CONCERNS? IF ANY OF TFIEM HAVE PROBLEMS, YOU JUST CALL THE LOCAL NUMBER. I'M SURE OUR POLICE WILL RESPOND APPROPRIATELY.

I PERSONALLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT, THE VOLUNTEERS, SOME OF THEM ARE SENIORS AND SUMMER STUDENTS. THEY CANNOT TAKE THE PLACE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. THIS IS A FESTIVAL THAT IT IS UP TO IO,OOO PEOPLE. SAFETY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SECURITY PRESENT.

I CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]
> I WAS IN YOI"]R ROLE AT ONE TIME SO I HAVE AN LTNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT TAKES TO PLAN WITH THE POLICE ASPECT. AREN'T THEY ALSO INVOLVED WITH DOING THE

BIDIRECTIONAL --
UPGRADE?
FOR ALL OF THAT.

THEY ARE.

THAT IS NOT SOMETHING VOLUNTEERS --
THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS VOLUNTEERS CANNOT DO.

THEY ARE MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS HAPPENING APPROPRIATELY, SO THAT IS ONE THING.

THERE IS A SAFETY CONCERN AND THE TRAFFIC, MOVING AS MUCH AS IT CAN ON THAT DAY. THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF THAT.

IIAD WAS,IF WE DID NOT APPROVE ANY OF THIS, AND YOU HAD TO TAKE A HIT FOR WHATEVER THE FULL DOLLAR AMOLINT IS. IF YOU HAD TO PAY THE CITY, I4,OOO, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT INCOME AND THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH ZERO IT OUT. CAN YOU SPEAK TO TI{E IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE OTHER THAN WHAT I HAVE LOOKED AT IF WE DID NOT T{AVE THIS?
THERE ARE SEVERAL ASPECTS OF OUR WORK THAT -- CAN BE AFFECTED. WE WOULD HAVE LESS MONEY TO APPROVE AND MARKET EVENTS FOR DOWNTOWN. THE MORE

FLINDING WE HAVE TFM MORE WE CAN DO TO BRING PEOPLE TO THE COMMUNITY TO SPEND MONEY, SHOP, EAT, ENJOY OUR RESTAURANTS. THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS WORKING WITH,I HAVE A I7 HOUR WEEK, THAT'S IT. IT'S ME AND HER. SHE CALLED IN SICK TODAY. THAT CHAMBER OFFICE WAS A LOT TO DO. IF WE HAVE A SUCCESSFUL

CROSSING AND PEOPLE CAN AFFORD A FULL-TIME ADMIN THAT WILL ALLOW US TO DO MORE IN THE COMMLINITY. IT COULD GET ME OUT OF THE OFFICE SO I COULD BE IN THE COMMLINITY,IN PERSON, DOING MUCH MORE WORK.

OKAY, THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN?
I INDISCERNIBLE - MUFFLED ]

SO, REPEAT OCCURRENCE, THE REASON WE ARE HERE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN

FLINDED, ACCORDING TO LINDA, WITH THE COMMUNITY GRANT PROGRAM FOR DECADES, PERHAPS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE CHAMBER IS COMING WITH THIS SORT OF ASK, SO rT's A trNrQUE SITUATION.

I'M SORRY, I HATE TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE NEED TO TAKE IMMEDIATE BREAK IN ORDER TO CREATE AN AISLE DOWN THE MIDDLE. I'M GOING TO ADD, PLEASE STAY THERE, I

THTNK WHAT I WILL DO IF THE MAYOR IS OKAY, JUST ASK PEOPLE TO PUSH THEIR CHAIRS ASIDE. WE NEED AN AISLE DOWN THE MIDDLE SO THAT IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, JUST PUSH YOUR CHAIRS TO THE SIDE. LET'S CREATE THAT. PERFECT. THAT'S GREAT. IT HAS TO BE WIDE ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO WALK THROUGH. THANK YOU. THAT'S AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. HOLD ON A MINUTE. IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR OUR NEEDS?

AS LONG AS THERE IS A WALKWAY ENCASED OF EVACUATION AND THEN I WILL DO ACCOLTNTING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE UNDER OCCUPANCY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROACTIVE, IT'S A VILLAGE, IT TAKES A VILLAGE. THANK YOU.

IF YOU COULD PLEASE CONTTNUE.

I THINK I FINISHED THAT QUESTION.

FOLLOW-UP, THIS ISN'T, EACH YEAR, BEFORE WE DECIDED TO CUT OFF THE BENEFIT

GRANT AS FAR AS WHAT I REMEMBER FROM LAST YEAR, THERE HAVE BEEN REPEATED REQUESTS FROM THE CITY TO SUBSIDTZE,BIJT THAT'S NOT YOUR LINDERSTANDING.

THIS IS THE FIRST REQUEST I HAVE MADE GOOD Page43of 6e

AS FAR AS GETTING THE TOURIST OFFICE OPEN TO PUBLIC ON THE WEEKENDS, WHEN IS THAT?

WHEN WE HAVE ENOUGH FLINDING TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE ON THE WEEKENDS AND IF THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL IS SUCCESSFUL,IT WILL BE OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS.

THANK YOU. I THINK THOSE WERE THE QUESTIONS. CAN WE PLEASE GO OUT TO PUBLIC COMMENT? IT SOLINDS LIKE TFMRE IS A CONCERN ABOUT FIRE ACCESS.

I WAS TRYING TO DO ACCOUNT, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE OCCUPANCY IS 80, THAT'S 80 STANDING PIVOT TABLES AND CHAIRS IT THE, SO I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE WERE UNDER. THAT COULD YOU PLEASE, COLINT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE? YOU CAN DO IT.

SO, I WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR TI{E WAIVER OF THE FEES FOR APPLE BLOSSOM.

WE WILL GO TO IN CHAMBER FIRST IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE REQUEST FOR THE WAIVER OF FEES FOR APPLE BLOSSOM.

THING DONE, I WIL GO OUT TO ZOOM AND TTIE FIRST SPEAKER I HAVE, CAN YOU TINMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
CAN YOU SEE TFIE TIMER?
YES.

GO AHEAD.

I AM A MEMBER OF THE GRASSY LIONS AND A MEMBER OF T}IE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY HAS NOT BEEN MENTIONED IS THAT MOST TOWNS WHO HAVE PARADES ARE PUT ON BY THE CITY. THE CHAMBER HAS BEEN PUTTING ON

THIS PARADE FOR QUITE A WHILE AND MOST OF OUR COST THAT WE ARE ASKED TO COME BACK TO IS TO PUT ON THE PARADE. THAT IS THE BIG THING. IT'S USING TFIE

POLICE, THE DIRECTIONAL TRAFFIC, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IS BECAUSE THE OVERTIME THAT COMES IN. AS A CHAMBER, IF WE CANNOT GET SUPPORT BACK FROM

THE CITY, CAN WE AFFORD TO HAVE THE PARADE AS WELL AS THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL? THAT'S MY COMMENT.

WE ARE }IEARING, THANK YOU IT MARY,I'M SORRY, NUMBERS IN TFIE ROOM? I UNDERSTAND THE OCCUPANCY IS 74.

WE HAVE HOW MANY?
OCCUPANCY STANDING IS 80, TABLES AND CHAIRS, IT IS 60 IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE BUILDING OFFICIAL. SO WHILE -- YES, IF WE COULD ruST KEEP GOING WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN IF WE COULD CONTACT THE FIRE CHIEF.

I WILL STEP IN, AND WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE COLTNCIL.

WE GO BACK INTO CHAMBERS. MAC I HAVE BEEN COMING TO THIS SINCE THE TRAIN ON

MAIN AND I ENCOURAGE YOU AND COUNCILMEMBER HINTON, THAT YOU GO WITH

SOMETHING, YOU GIVE THEM THE MONEY BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE TO GO FOR A TAX

INCREASE YOU MIGHT NEED THESE PEOPLE, SO IS A SECONDARY THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO WORK AROUND IT.

THANKYOU. NEXT, BACKTO CHAMBERS.

I'M SORRY, YOU ARE WELCOME TO SIT DOWN. THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE TT{E TIMER? GO AHEAD.

I ruST WANT TO ENCOURAGE COLINCIL TO SUPPORT THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL. I

THINK WE'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT SALES TAX ARE KEY TO HELPING OUR

CITY MAKE TFIE FINANCIAL RECOVERY AND BRING IN ENOUGH MONEY TO FULLY FLIND OUR VARIOUS, FUNDAMENTAL AND FOUNDATIONAL CITY SERVICES. IN THE PAST, COUNCIL HAS APPROVED HLINDRED AND $2O,OOO AND MUCH MORE IN THE HLINDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR PAID CONSULTANTS. I THINK THE CHAMBER IS NOW DOING THAT WORK AND OBVIOUSLY, AT MUCH LESS COST. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO

SUPPORT THE CHAMBER AND SUPPORT OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND SUPPORT THE WORK THEY ARE DOING ON BEHALF OF OUR SMALL BUSINESS COMMLINITY. THANK YOU.

CONNECT THANK YOU. I WILL COME BACK TO IN CHAMBER IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO

MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE REQUEST FOR THE WAIVER OF FEES FOR APPLE BLOSSOM. SEEING MEN, I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOO}'4 LINDA, CAN YOU LNMUTE, PLEASE?
THANK YOU. CAN YOU GO AHEAD?
so, you KNow, THrs IS A woRTHY CAUSE AND I AM THINKING YOU WOF&&ltf iME PLENTY OF MONEY FOR TTIIS AND TI{E MANY OT'HER, OTHER THINGS IN THIS TOWN HAD

YOU NOT, IN THE PAST, HAD A BUNCH OF USELESS CONSULTANTS, ON ONE FLOOR OF THE AUDIT FOR EXEMPLARY COMPS. WE GOT 13. YET, THAT DIDN'T STOP DIANA RICH FROM

BULLYING THEM AND AUDITING THEM, THINKING, YOU GOT HER MIXED UP WITH

MINNEAPOLIS AND GEORGE FLOYD, YOU KNOW AND OUR COPS ARE NOT EXACTLY LIKE THEM AND NOT EVEN TO MENTION THE $5 MILLION IN TFIE LOAN THAT DIANA RICH AND

LISA STILL WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY OKAYED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT

KNOW THEY WERE VOTING ON BECAUSE IT WAS WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY WITH

SUSTAINABILITY AND ENERGY EFFICIENT IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT INCLUDED A SZ.2MILLTON, THAT WERE USELESS AND HAZARDOUS TO OUR HEALTH, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE PAYING ON THAT.

YOU HAVE 36.

FOR THE 13 YEARS. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT THE REMAINING DEBT ON THAT IS $374,000. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE REST OF IT. THANK YOU DID THANK YOU. NEXT I GO BACK TO IN CHAMBERS,IF THERE'S ANYONE.

I AM A CITIZEN, HERE IN SEBASTOPOL. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF 35 PEOPLE GIVE

HLTNDRED DOLLARS, IT WOULD BE COVERED, SO THAT TFIE CONSIDERATION FOR PUBLIC FUNDING.

LET'S COMPLETE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE WILL COME BACK TO IT.

THANK YOU.

NEXT, GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM.IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR WAIT TO GET MY ATTENTION. ONE LAST TIME, TO CHAMBERS. SEE NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. MAC I AM GOING TO BASICALLY ruST SAY THAT I AM CERTAIN THE CHAMBER HAS DONE FLINDRAISING, CORRECT? OKAY.

THAT IS A WONDERFUL QUESTION AND WONDERFUL SUGGESTION. WHY DON'T YOU ruST BRIEFLY COME UP TO T}IE PODIUM AND CONFIRM THAT FOR US, IF YOU COULD. I A DO HERE AT TAXPAYER TOWN SAYING HEY,I'M COMING TO THE CITY.

I GET THAT. FAIR QUESTION. I SPENT PART OF TODAY COLD CALLING LOCAL BUSINESSES ASKED TI{EM TO CONTRIBUTE. EMAILS OF GONE OUT TO, OVER 1OO OF OUR BUSINESSES

DID THE THING IS, A LOT OF OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDING RIGHT NOW. IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT THOSE WHO SEE THE VALUE AND DO CONSIDER IT

SOMETHING OF AN INVESTMENT, TO CONTRIBUTE TO APPLE BLOSSOM, HAVE STEPPED UP AND ARE SUPPORTING AND HELPING TO FUND OFF -- FUND APPLE BLOSSOM. I'M EXHAUSTING EVERY RESOURCE I CAN TO MAKE THIS A GREAT EVENT.

THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW BACK AT THE COUNCIL TABLE FOR DISCUSSION. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO WEIGH IN?

WELL,I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU , FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN THIS YEAR. I THINK IT'S SUCH A SMALL, SMALL INVESTMENT AND I'M SORRY THAT YOU HAVE COME HERE AND PUBLICLY ASK. I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT, THE FULL ASK OF WHAT YOU NEED AND AT THE SAME TIME, I AM ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE FACING IN NEARLY $2 MILLION DEFICIT STARTING IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND MOVING FORWARD, A $3 MILLION PROJECTED DEFICIT. THINGS CHANGE, YOU NEVER KNOW. I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT YOU FOR THIS YEAR, BUT I

CAUTION YOU TO PROBABLY LOOK FORWARD TO BUDGET FOR PERHAPS THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, BECAUSE WE DID LOOK AT SUSPENDING THE COMMTINITY GRANTS. IF

YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT AS A POSSIBILITY, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED THIS OR KNEW THAT THERE MIGHT NOT BE FUNDS FOR THE PURPOSE -- FOR THE PARADE. ruSTINO, FOR

THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT BUDGET AND TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO TO FUND RAISE FOR THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS? COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?

YES, TO CLARIFY, I DO THINK YOU'VE BEEN AWESOME, YEAR AFTER YEAR, I'VE VOTED FOR FLTNDING. IT'S WORTH IT, THOUGH WE ARE IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION. I WANTED TO

ADDRESS THE BOARD MEMBER WHO SPOKE, THAT THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT LIKE MANY CITIES DO. REALLY, THE COMMUNITY MAKES IT HAPPEN, AS WE KNOW, COMML]NITY CENTER, SENIOR CENTER, ART ENTER, CHAMBER.

THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN LIKE, THE CITIES THAT HAVE BIGGER BUDGETS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT WHICH WE DO NOT. I WOULD SAY THAT, BY TSHIRT. YOUR T-SHIRTS ARE THE BEST, TI{E MOST CREATIVE I'VE SEEN TNdGA}TTFVEN REMEMBER. I TALKED TO MARIAH ABOUT IT SO HOPEFULLY WE FIAVE MONEY ON T- SHIRTS AND I CHALLENGE YOU ON THE COST REPORT. IF YOU MAKE A PROFIT THIS YEAR

AND CAN HELP TFM CITY WITH OUR HARD COSTS, ERNIE'S GOT MONEY OUT, THAT IS, GIVE IT TO THE CHAMBER BECAUSE IF THEY MAKE MONEY THIS YEAR. I JUST WANTED TO SAY I

AM IN SUPPORT OF WHAT YOU NEED AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO, WITHIN OUR OWN BUDGET, FMLP FIGURE IT OUT.

AND FOR THOSE ON ZOOM, YEAH, THERE'S BEEN A DONATION COLLECTION ON BEHALF

OF THE CHAMBER THAT HAS BEEN INITIATED BY WAYNE STANFIELD AND ERNIE

CARPENTER AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY AND RIGHT, OKAY. MICHAEL. OKAY. ANYWAY. MOVING ON, WHAT OTHER COTINCIL -- WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE DOING. THANK YOU.

I ruST WANTED TO COMMENT AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF A 501(C) SIX CHAMBER FOR

NORTHBAY BUSINESSES, I FEEL FOR THE CHAMBER RIGHT NOW AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. I'M GOING TO THE SAME THING WITH IVTY EVENT AND ASKING LOCAL BUSINESSES.

I HAVE A LOT OF EMPATHY FOR THAT AND I ALSO THINK THAT KNOWING THE BUDGET CHALLENGES WE HAVE, I CONCUR T}IAT HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. WITH ALL OF OUR COST ISSUES, BUDGET ISSUES, I THINK THAT THE CHAMBER

IS, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE NEED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WORK IN RETURN,

WE NEED TO TURN TO THE CHAMBER TO HELP WITH THAT AND RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT'S

AN INVESTMENT IN THE CHAMBER WHO WILL INVEST IN US AND AS WE WORK WITH CITY

MANAGER AND OUR BUDGET COMMITTEE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REDUCE COST, WE ARE ALSO GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING THAT REVENUE. I'M HOPING THAT BY US

SUPPORTING THIS, I SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IN THE FUTURE HOW WE CAN HAVE MORE. I KNOW I EMAILED YOU ABOUT DIFFERENT IDEAS SO I SEE THIS AS

AN INVESTMENT AND I LTNDERSTAND THE BUDGET ISSUES THAT I'M NOT IGNORING, BUT I THINK SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO PUT MONEY INTO THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GROW. I

JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT SUPPORT AND THE EMPATHY THAT WE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT.

GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN.

THANK YOU. YES. MY ACTIONS MIGHT HAVE BEEN PROCESSED AS HARSH AND I SENSE A LEVEL OF DEFENSIVENESS. I PREFACED WITH THE FACT THAT I AM A MEMBER OF YOUR

ORGANIZATION, I SUPPORT YOU, I AM A LIAISON POSITION TO YOU, BUT AS YOU POINT OUT, I AM IN THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. I TOO, AM FINE. I DISAGREE WITH THE STATEMENT

OF, YOU DIDN'T KNOW, LIKE WE WOULD END UP IN THIS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH THIS THE PAST BUDGET CYCLE. YOU HAVE HAD NOTICE OF THIS. I AM FINE WITH GIVING

MONEY THIS YEAR, BUT I AM EXPECT AND THATNEXT YEAR, WE WILL HAVE A LOT LESS REQUESTS, IF ANY AT ALL.

OKAY. I THINK, I AM UNCERTAIN IN TERMS OF THE NOTICE TO TI{E CHAMBER, BUT I'M NOT SURE, LET ME JUST, MY OPINION. THIS AMOLTNT OF MONEY IS NOT A SMALL AMOLINT.

IT IS ALMOST $I5,OOO AND YES, STAFF HAS MANAGED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT

WORK WITHIN THE BUDGET THEY'VE ALLOCATED, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT

BUDGETARY AMOUNT FOR STAFF COULD HAVE GONE FOR OTFIER PURPOSES OR EXPENSES IN THE CITY. SO,I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST,I OFFER THAT SUPPORT WITH SOME MAJOR CONCERNS AND REMINDERS THAT IN TF{E FUTURE, AS YOU HAVE

HEARD, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL TO SUPPORT REQUEST OF THIS KIND. THAT'S MY FIRST OBSERVATION. THE OTHER POINT IS,I LOVED

COLTNCILMEMBER NICHOLAS'S POINT WHICH IS OKAY, WE ARE, IN ESSENCE, SUPPORTING $5O,OOO WORTH OF MONEY TOWARD THE CHAMBER. THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL SUM, LET'S BE

SURE WE PARTNER IN THE FUTURE AS WE ARE TRYING TO ALL GET TOGETHER AND MAKE THIS TOWN, KEEP IT AFLOAT AND HELP THEM THRIVE. SO, YES, BUT WE WANT YOU TO KNOW TI{AT IT'S A BIG ASK FOR US RIGHT NOW AND T}IAT WE HOPE THIS IS

CONFIRMATION OF A PARTNERSHIP AND THAT YOU WILL KNOW IN THE FUTURE, IT'S GOING TO GET EVEN TIGHTER, FOLKS. THAT'S MY GENERAL COMMENT. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE?
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MOVE TO GRANT, AS REQUESTED, BY THE CHAMBER.

I'M SORRY, WE LOST TRACK OF THIS IDEA OF THE 3500, THE CHAMBER, CONSIDERING A RETURN OF THE 3500. AND SEEING NOT, THAT IS SOMETHING THE CHAMBER WILL CONSIDER. Page 46 of 69
MY MOTION DOES NOT I].{CLUDE THAT. IT'S JUST TO FiJ}liD WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER. WE ARE LOOKING FOR A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION. IF SO, WE WILL THEN VOTE ON IT.

I WILL SECOND IT,I'M SORRY.

WE DO HAVE A SECOND AND NOW WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE THERE IS DISCUSSION

AND TO THE EXTENT THAT ANYONE ON THE COLINCIL WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE CONCEPT OF THE $3500 BEING CONSIDERED BY THE COUNCIL, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME.

I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT OF THE MOTION, THAT THEY WOULD BRING

IT OFFICIALLY TO THE BOARD AND NOT THAT THERE IS A GUARANTEE, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE PART OF OUR ASK, THAT TT1EY AT LEAST CONSIDER THAT IF THEY HAVE A SUCCESSFUL EVENT. BUT NOW WE HAVE BASICALLY TWO MOTIONS. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT SECOND MOTION? THE FIRST, THAT GOT A SECOND WAS TO SIMPLY APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR A WAIVER. WE NOW IN EFFECT HAVE A SECOND MOTION ON THE FLOOR WHICH IS TO APPROVE THE WAIVER WITH THE $3500 CONDITION.

THE MAYOR IS LOOKING AT ME, PLEASE LET ME OUT.

YOU NEED TO TAKE THE FIRST MOTION SINCE YOU HAVE A SECOND TO PUT IT ON THAT TO SEE IF THAT PASSES. THEN, COUNCILMEMBER HINTON CAN ASK IF THE MOVER WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION.

THAT THE REQUEST TO YOU, AND SHE HAS DECLINED SO NOW WE SHOULD TAKE A VOTE.

YOU MAY TAKE A VOTE ON THE FIRST MOTION AND TI{EN IF THAT DOES NOT PASS YOU CAN GO TO THE SECOND MOTION TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST TO TTM CHAMBER.

WHAT WOULD WE DO? YES. I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE FIRST MOTION, PLEASE. FOR COLINCILMEMBERS, IF THAT FAILS, WE LOOK TO THE SECOND MOTION, CORRECT?
CORRECT. YOU DON'T HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION BUT IF THIS DOES NOT PASS THERE IS A STANDING REQUEST ON THE FLOOR. MOVED AND SECONDED, TO APPROVE THE WAIVER OF FEES FOR TIME AND MATERIALS FOR THE 2024 FESTIVAL, AS AMENDED

BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AS STAFF IS INDICATED THE FEES CAN BE ABSORBED IN THE BUDGET THEREFORE A BUDGET RESOLUTION IS NOT REQUIRED.

CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION? I DO NOT WANT TO VOTE AGAINST THIS. MY

LINDERSTANDING IN THE PAST IS THAT IT CAN GO THROUGH AND THEN WE CAN DO A RECONSIDERATION.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE MOTION.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE MOTION.

I'M GOING TO SAY YES AND I ruST, THROUGHOUT MY THOUGHT, SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE CHAMBER AND THE EVENT.

MOTION PASSES LTNANIMOUSLY. BEFORE WE GO FURTHER, WE ARE OVER OCCUPANCY LOAD. WE WILL NEED TO OPEN THE DOORS TO HAVE AT LEAST 15 PEOPLE BE OUT IN THE HALLWAY. TI{ERE CAN ONLY BE 60 IN THIS ROOM WITH TABLES AND CHAIRS. 15 PEOPLE --
IF 74 TOTAL, AS WAS DISCUSSED, THEN WENEED 14 PEOPLE BE ABLE, AND KEEP THE ALLEYWAY,IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE PEzuMETER.

OKAY, SO WE ARE GOING TO ASK 15 PEOPLE TO SELF SELECT. LET'S MAKE SURE WE CAN

OPEN THE ROOM FOR ANYONE WHO IS PRESENTTNG ON ANY ITEMS THAT WE HAVE A

COMING ON THE AGENDA AND OTHERWISE, LET'S ASK THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING

TO STAND OUTSIDE AND LISTEN FROM THERE TO --

I HEAR A REQUEST, WE WILL CONSIDER THAT IN A MOMENT, BUT FOR THE MOMENT LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAVE ABOUT 15 PEOPLE OUT OF THE ROOM. IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE THERE.

HAVING A SIDEBAR CONVERSATION, IF THE COLNCILMEMBER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A

SEPARATE MOTION TO REQUEST THE CHAMBER CONSIDER THAT, YOU CAN MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION. IT WOULD ruST NOT BE CONSIDERED PART OF THE FIRST MOTION SAID
I SEE. THANK YOU FOR THOSE , TO CLOSE AT THIS DISCUSSION, WHO REMOVED THEMSELVES. IT LOOKS LIKE, WE HAVE CLEARED THE ROOM SUFFICIENTLY. I WLL BRING THE DISCUSSION BACK TO TFIE COUNCIL TABLE , REGARDING THE CHAMBER ITEM. I SEE THE CHAMBER REPRESENTATIVES ARE STILL IN THE ROOM. BRIEFLY, WE WILL OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION THAT WOULD REQUEST THE€MME#R CONSIDER THE RETURN OF SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY.

I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION THAT THE CHAMBER ASK THEIR BOARD, IF THEY HAVE A SUCCESSFUL EVENT, APPROVE THE POSSIBLE RETURN OF $35OO IN HARD COST TO THE

CITY SO THAT WE CAN BE IN PARTNERSHIP AND EVEN UP
SECOND.

FIRST AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?
YEAH,I JUST WANT TO FREELY GIVE IT TO THE CHAMBER. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THEM

HAVE TO GO BACK, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE IT FREELY THIS YEAR AND THEN NEXT YEAR, THINGS WILL BE DIFFERENT.

UNDERSTOOD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THE VOTE?

MOTION AND SECONDED TO ASK THAT IF THERE IS A SUCCESSFUL EVENT THAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER RETURNING TFIE HARD COST OF $3500 TO THE CITY.

MOTION PASSES,4-I.

OKAY, THANK YOU. WE HAVE CLOSE AT THAT ITEM, THANK YOU TO THE CHAMBER REPRESENTATIVES WHO ARE HERE AND TO EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS TOPIC.

THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST MADE TO MOVE THE CEASE-FIRE ITEM AHEAD OF OUR OTI{ER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. LTNFORTLINATELY, I'M NOT COME DOING THAT, I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING FROM OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS THAT WOULD CHANGE MY OPINION. WE DO NEED TO PRIORITIZE THE ITEMS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE AGENDA. LTNFORTLINATELY, THAT IS WFIERE WE ARE AT. NEXT, THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED BY CITY MANAGER, ON SOLID WASTE COLLECTION, CORRECT? MIKE I WILL TRY TO MAKE THIS SHORT AND SWEET. THIS IS NOT THE RELEASE OF THE RFP,IT'S JUST THE EVALUATION CRITERIA OR

THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE NEW RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE COLLECTION IN SWEEPING SERVICES. AS YOU HEARD ANY PREVIOUS COLTNCIL MEETING, THE COUNCIL

DECIDED TO GO OUT FOR REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND ASK THE EVALUATION CRITERIA

BE RETURNED, CONSIDERING WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE RFP FOR THE CRITERIA. I HAVE INCLUDED THE MILESTONES IN THE REPORT AS FAR AS WHEN THE

ITEMS WOULD BE COMING BACK, AS WELL AS THE EVALUATION CRITERIA IN THE REPORT. I CAN PULL THAT UP ON THE SCREEN AND WE CAN TALK FOR EACH, THE QUALITY OF SERVICES, OTHERWISE IT'S IN THE REPORT. IF THERE ARE COMMENTS,

QUESTIONS, I DO HAVE GUARDS FROM OUR THREE CONSULTING AND MARION FROM OUR THREE CONSULTING IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS.

I THINK I WILL MAKE THIS A COMPRESSED DISCUSSION. WE HAVE ALL RECEIVED THE AGENDA ITEM, THE STAFF REPORT IN OUR PACKET. LET'S JUST C}IECK AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCILMEMBERS. I'M NOT SEEING ANY. AT THE SAME TIME, I

WILL ASK COUNCILMEMBERS THAT YOU HAVE A NEED TO PROVIDE US ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AT THIS TIME.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK LINDERWEAR IT IS PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL

RATES, BEING ON THAT COMMITTEE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED IS THAT

SOME OF THE CANS WERE, THE PRICING WAS MUCH LOWER BASED ON AN INITIATIVE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE THE SMALLER CANS. I'M WONDERING WHAT THAT -- I WILL ASK THE CONSULTANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION IF THAT'S OKAY. GUARDS?

GARTH SCHULTZ, HERE, COUNCILMEMBERS, PRESENT WITH OUR THREE AND PROJECT MANAGER FOR DEVELOPMENT OF TFIE RFP EFFORT ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES. IT'S

NOT AROUND THE INDIVIDUAL RATE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN CONTAINER SIZES FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS,IT'S AROLIND THE COMPARISON TO OTHER PROPOSALS. IT

WOULD BE THE WEIGHTING OF POINTS, GIVEN A TOTAL SHOWN IN THE TABLE, WITH THE

BEST OVERALL RESIDENTIAL RATE WOULD RECEIVE ALL THE POINTS AND THOSE HAVE

HIGHER OVERALL RESIDENTIAL RATE IN COMPARISON TO THAT PROPOSAL, WOULD HAVE PROPORTIONATELY DECREASED POINTS FOR THE CATEGORY. IT'S A COMPARATIVE

WEIGHTING OF THE OVERALL RESIDENTIAL SERVICE RATES AND THE WAY WE DO THAT IS

TO LOOK AT APPROXIMATE ANNUAL REVENUES THAT WOULD BE RECEIVED, GIVEN SUBSCRIPTIONS TO THE VARIOUS CONTAINERS. WE LOOK AT AN ESTIMATED REVENUE CALCULATION FOR THAT.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTTON?
IT DOES, THANK YOU. I

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ? YEAH. PLEASE, LET'S KEEP IT QUIET IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. COUNCILMEMBER, YOU ARE ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. WERE THERE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAD?

I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, ARE THESE, WE HAVE THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, IN TERMS OF POINTS. IS TFIERE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF MOVING AROUND SOME OF THESE POINTS? FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK SERVICE RATES AND VALUES SHOULD BE HIGHER THAN 20. SO --

THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE IS FLEXIBILITY IF THERE IS A HIGHER OR LOWER NUMBER IN ONE CATEGORY, TO RECOGNIZE THAT IN OTI{ER CATEGORIES.

WHAT IS PUT OUT HERE IS A DRAFT FOR COTINCIL COMMENT AND POTENTIAL ADJUSTMENT. UPON APPROVAL OF THESE POINT, THAT WOULD BE THE POINTS BY CATEGORY THAT WE USE FOR THE EVALUATION PROCESS GOING FORWARD. IT'S YOUR DISCRETION TO MODIFY IT BY CATEGORY.

I THINK THAT ANSWERS THOSE QUESTIONS. THOSE NUMBERS MIGHT BE DISTRIBUTED, BUT PLEASE, COL]NCILMEMBER MC LEWIS.

IF YOU WERE TO CHANGE THESE POINTS, ARE YOU EXPECTING US TO LOOK AT ALL OF

THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WOULD BE WILLING TO SACRIFICE? IS THAT HOW YOU FORESEE THIS WORKING?

IDEALLY, WE WANT THE TOTAL POINTS TO BE I OO --

BUT YOU WANT US TO FIGURE OUT WFIERE WE ARE WILLING TO SACRIFICE, RIGHT HERE, RIGHTNOW.

CORRECT,IN ORDER TO PROCEED ON SCHEDULE,IF YOU HAVE DIFFERENT WEIGHTINGS

IN MIND, WE WOULD WANT TO HEAR THAT DIRECTION SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE

ADJUSTMENTS AND INCLUDE THEM IN THE RFP THAT WILL BE FINALIZED OVER THE COMING WEEKS AND THEN WE STILL RETURN TO COLINCIL.

I HAVE AN OPINION BUT --

LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT IF WE COULD AND THEN WE WILL BRING IT BACK FOR

DISCUSSION, BUT I WANT TO RECOGNIZETHAT I DO HAVE COUNCILMEMBER MC LEWIS AND COLINCILMEMBER MAUER WHO HAVE DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF THIS TOPIC. WE WLL GET SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT WHEN WE COME BACK. COULD YOU HANDLE PUBLIC COMMENT?

THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE EVALUATION CRITERIA FOR THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. IF YOU'D LIKE A PUBLIC COMMENT,I WILL GO TO IN CHAMBERS. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT PUBLIC COMMENT. SEE NINE, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM IF

THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON EVALUATION CRITERIA. ROBERT, CAN YOU LINMUTE, PLEASE?

JUST QUICKLY, IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE WAITING EQUAL SUSTAINABILITY AND SERVICE RATES, IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. MAYBE SERVICE RATES SHOULD BE THE HIGHEST, AND OR QUALITY OF SERVICE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT, BACKED IN CHAMBERS IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NINE, TO ZOOM, LINDA? GO AHEAD, PLEASE. MET WHILE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RECYCLING AND SO FORTH, I WANT TO REMIND YOU AGAIN, THIS IS ruST ONE OF 1O PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE TO BE BUILT.

LINDA, WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS ON RFP, THE FACTORS BEING

CONSIDERED --
WLL YOU LET ME DO THAT?
PLEASE.

OKAY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WASTE AND SO FORTH. SO ONCE AGAIN, THE COLTNry PROJECT PRODUCED2I4 TONS OF SOLID WASTE A YEAR BY ITSELF, SO THAT MEANS IT'S A LOT MORE TRUCKS ON THE ROADS. IT
LINDA, I'M SORRY, WE HAVE TO BRING YOU BACK ON TOPIC. THE QUESTION HERE IS

WHAT FACTORS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED WHEN WE GO OUT TO SELECT A GARBAGE HAULER, WHAT ARE TI{E FACTORS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, TO HAVE YOUR OPINION ON THAT.

OH. I THINK TFIAT WE OUGHT TO REDUCE OUR GARBAGE. THEN WE CAN DO THAT, BY LESSENING OUR BUILDINGS. THAT IS WHAT I THINK. ALSO, LESSENING WEAR AND TEAR ON THE ROADS, REQUIRTNG MAINTENANCE EVERY YEAR. THAT'S WHAT I'T#tN&os THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, BACKED IN CHAMBERS. IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

HELLO. I READ THE DOCUMENTS AND I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT AT THE PREVIOUS

MEETING ABOUT QUALITY OF SERVICE AND A NUMBER OF FACTORS AND I THOUGHT, EVERY ASPECT OF IT IS MAYBE NOT PERFECT. WE WANT BALANCE IN THIS PROPOSAL AND

KEEPING THE SCORING AS IT IS IN THE DOCUMENT I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD JOB,I APPRECIATE THAT WORK. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. BACK OUT TO ZOOM,IF YOU LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON

EVALUATION CRITERIA FOR THE INVESTMENT PROPOSALS, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY OR GET MY ATTENTION. SEEING NINE, BACK INTO CHAMBERS ONE LAST TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS I AM?
THIS IS ABOUT GARBAGE, RIGHT?

THIS IS ON THE EVALUATION CRITERIA FOR THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE GARBAGE CONTRACT.

I WAS WONDERING, BECAUSE I LIVE IN AN AREA, WHERE I WAS WORKING AS A NURSE,

BUT WHEN I NOTICED IS THAT THE GARBAGE SERVICE THEY PROVIDED WAS VERY NICE

AND THAT YOU COULD CALL THEM UP, BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A FIRE AREA, WE HAVE A

LOT OF DEBRIS AND STUFF, YOU COULD CALL THEM AND TRIM YOUR DEBRIS, PUT IN A

PILE AND THEY WOULD COME WITH A BIG, WHAT IS IT CALLED, THEY COULD COME AND

COLLECT IT WITH A BIG THING AND TAKE IT AWAY AND IT WAS A LOT SAFER BECAUSE WE DID A LOT OF TREE TRIMMING AND STUFF. I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY GOOD AND

THEN THE GROLIND IT DOWN DOWN THE STREET AND YOU COULD PICK UP MULCH THAT

THEY HAD MORE SERVICES AS FAR AS RECYCLING AND GETTING RID OF THE STUFF THAT CAN BURN. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. ANYWAY. THAT'S MY TWO CENTS.

THE MAC THANK YOU. I WILL GO ONE LAST TIME TO ZOOM IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS SINCE YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR SERVICE AND ADDRESS, DO YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS? WOULD YOU MIND?
YOU ARE ASKING THE SPEAKER?
YEAH. I JUST WAS CURIOUS.

SHE DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

THANK YOU.

I WII.L GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM., ONE MORE TIME FOR THE EVALUATION CRITERIA ON THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR GARBAGE SERVICES. SEEING NONE, I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS ONE LAST TIME IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON EVALUATION CRITERIA.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

THANK YOU . COLTNCILMEMBER Mc LEWIS?

AS ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS, I PERSONALLY WOULD

LIKE TO SEE THE RATE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER RANKING OR WEIGHT AS FAR AS THAT BECAUSE W}IEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS, WE WENT THROUGH THIS OVER AND

OVER AGAIN AND THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WE HAD WAS THE RATES AND NOW WE ARE

WAITING THAT EQUALLY WITH THESE OTHER ITEMS AND THAT IS WHAT PUT US OVER THE TOP TO WHERE WE FELT WE NEEDED TO GO OUT. TO WAIT THAT EQUALLY IS NOT

LIKE, HONORING THE REASON WE ARE GOING OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE THE RATES WERE THE CHALLENGE FOR US. IT WAS SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO GO OUTSIDE FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE PRIORITTZED,IN IVTY OPINION.

OKAY. ANY OTHER,I GUESS, IF I COULD ruST, MY QUESTION SINCE WE DO HAVE TWO

MEMBERS OF OUR COUNCIL WHO WERE ON AN AD HOC COMMITTEE LOOKING AT THE

ECOLOGY CONTRACT, SO THEY HAVE THE LEVEL OF EXPERTISE THE REST OF US MAY NOT HAVE. MY QUESTION TO YOU,IS, IF WE WERE GOING TO MAKE THAT MODIFICATION, WHERE WOULD BE THE PROPOSAL, HOW MUCH WOULD YOU WANT IT INCREASED?

I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT FOR A WHILE AND I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT FROM

GARTH, I KNOW THAT THIS IS KIND OF A STANDARD TEMPLATE BUT AT THE SAME TIME,

ARE THERE ANY, THE ALTERNATIVE FUELS, AND ALL OF THAT,IS SOMETHING THAT

EVERYONE DOES OR ARE THERE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU SEE WHERE PEOPLE, BEFORE, WHERE WE COULD EASILY ALTER BASED ON KNOWNQldpSdrol'VF FUNCTION AND WHAT WE HAVE PRIORITIZED AND TALK ABOUT?
MY RESPONSE THERE IS THAT ACTUALLY, THIS IS BASED ON A TEMPLATE. WE PUT IN

THOUGHT AND CARE, GIVEN WHAT WE HEARD AT THE COLINCIL WFIEN WE WERE

SELECTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS, SO WE LISTENED TO WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, AND THOSE FACTORS ARE INCLUDED. THESE ARE ALL ELEMENTS THAT WE

RECOMMEND, AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT'S IMMEDIATELY RIPE FOR STRIKING, BUT IT WOULD SUGGEST, IN LOOKING AT SERVICE RATES AND VALUE BEING HIGI{ER, A

COUPLE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE A TRADE-OFF, WHERE WOULD THOSE POINTS COME

FROM, DO SERVICE RATES AND VALUE REMAIN ABOVE SUSTAINABILITY AND QUALITY OF SERVICE REFERENCES AND DO THOSE REFERENCES, SHOULD TFIEY HAVE EQUAL VALUE?

IT'S A BIT OF A BALANCING ACT FOR YOU AND IN MOVING SERVICE RATES AND VALUE OF, I DO NOT RECOMMEND GOING ANOTHER FIVE POINTS HIGHER. AT THAT POINT, THIS

PROCESS PANS OUT, TO HEAVILY FAVOR RATE AND VALUE AND YOU MAY NOT A PROMINENCE AMONG OTHER I ALREADY AREAS. MY SUGGESTION IS ADDING FIVE POINTS

AND THE QUESTION BACK TO THE COUNCIL IS SHOULD THAT COME FROM A BALANCE OF

QUALITY AND SERVICE AND REFERENCES IN SUSTAINABILITY, OR ONE OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES FOR PROPOSED SERVICES AND PRUDENCE AND TECHNOLOGY. I THINK IT'S

AROLTND WHICH OF THOSE MIGHT BE PRIORITTZED TO ELEVATE SERVICE RATES AND VALUE IS A WEIGHTED CATEGORY.

THANK YOU. I WILL REMIND EVERYONE ON THE COTINCIL THAT WE ARE NOW AT 9:45

AND WE HAVE OTHER ITEMS TO GET TO BUT WE WANT TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS ONE. I SAW HER EARLIER, WAS THERE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO CONTRIBUTE, COUNCILMEMBER?
ruST, TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER Mc LEWIS ON THE COMMENTS SHE MADE IN TERMS OF RATES. IN TERMS OF SUSTAINABILITY, THERE IS QUALITY AND REFERENCES

WHICH INCLUDE SUSTAINABILITY IN TERMS OF RECYCLABLE ORGANIC WASTE PROGRAMS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE RATE AND VALUE AT 30, AND TAKE AT LEAST FIVE

FROM SUSTAINABILITY BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GET THE OTHER FTVE.

OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER HINTON. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE WEIGFIED IN.

SUSTAINABILITY IS IMPORTANT AND QUALITY OF SERVICE. WHAT I WAS THINKING OF IS MAYBE SERVICE RATES AND VALUE, AND WE THINK IN ROUND NUMBERS. INSTEAD OF

ENGAGING IN ROLTND NUMBERS WE COULD THINK IN ANY PERCENTAGE WE WANT SO WE COULD DROP THE OTHERS DOWN TO I7.5, AND THEN WE STILL KIND OF HAVE THOSE INTACT. THOSE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS AND I KNOW THEY HAVE TO DO WITH CLIMATE

ACTION FRAMEWORK AND TFIEY HAVE TO DO WITH ORGANICS AND SO, WE CAN'T REALLY THROW IT OUT. I AGREE THAT THAT IS WHAT GOT US HERE. IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST 25.

WE JUST HEARD 30 FROM ANOTHER COMMITTEE MEMBER. I AM WILLING, BUT AGAIN, WE

CAN TAKE FROM OTHER THINGS AND IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE BY FIVE,IT COULD BE ANY PERCENTAGE WE WANT. THAT IN MIND, WT{AT WOULD THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS SAY? I AGREE T}IAT RATES ARE WHY WE ARE EVEN HERE.

YEAH, LET'S GO TO COLTNCILMEMBER Mc LEWIS AND THEN WE CAN GO TO VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN.

IT HAS TO DO WITH W}IAT WAS JUST SAID. WE ARE LOOKING AT QUALITY OF SERVICE AND REFERENCES. IT HAS THREE ITEMS. DO YOU HAVE ANY INTERNAL WAY YOU RATE THOSE ITEMS AS IT BREAKS DOWN? ARE THEY ALL EQUALLY RATED AND NOT? I'M

TRYING TO THINK ABOUT GETTING INTO THE MINUTIA BECAUSE TFIERE ARE CERTAIN ITEMS THAT DO NOT MEAN AS MUCH IN THAT 20 CATEGORY.

TYPICALLY WE BREAK IT DOWN ROUGHLY EVENLY. AGAIN, IF THERE ARE ELEMENTS OF

THAT CATEGORY THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT TO THE COLINCIL, IT'S A GREAT TIME TO PROVIDE THAT PROTECTION TO US IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE. WITH RESPECT

TO IF WE ARE LOOKING AT CATEGORY ONE, I DON'T KNOW THAT, UNLESS YOU FEEL THE

NEED, TO SPECIFY THE EXACT POINTS BY THAT SUBCATEGORY, BUT YOU COULD PROVIDE

A MORE BROAD DIRECTION OF SAYING OH, THOSE ITEMS, THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MOST

IMPORTANT TO US AND WE WOULD LIKE IT TO HAVE ROUGHLY TWICE THE GRAVITY OF THE OTHER ITEMS IN THAT CATEGORY.

THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN?

THANK YOU. I DO LIKE COUNCILMEMBER HINTON'S SUGGESTION OF HOW EVER WE PUT

THE ONES WE PRIORTTIZE, WE DO BY FIVE AND WHATEVER THE OTHER CATEGORIES ARE, WE JUST DIVIDE IT.

ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

I ALSO APPRECIATE COLINCILMEMBER HINTON'S SUGGESTION. IF WE TAKE OFF TWO POINT 45 ITEMS, THAT WOULD GIVE US 30 FOR THE RATES, AND TAKEDOWN QUALITY OF SERVICES TO 18, SUSTAINABILITY TO 18, SERVICE AND RATES AND VALUE TO 30, PROPOSED SERVICES, IMPROVEMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY 13, COMMLINITY EMPLOYMENT

PARTNERSHIP EIGHT, COMMUNICATION OUTREACH AND CUSTOMER SERVICE EIGHT, AND FINANCIAL ABILITY AND INTEGRITY, LEAVE AT FIVE. THAT WOULD BE BUMPING THE RATE UP TO 30.

OKAY, SO I SEE SOME NODDING HEAD. I WILL GO TO OUR CONSULTANT BECAUSE IF YOU

COULD WEIGH IN ON THIS SUGGESTION BECAUSE YOU WERE PRETTY CLEAR THAT YOU WOULD NOT, YOU RECOMMENDED WE NOT GO OVER 25 PERCENT ON THE SERVICE RATES AND VALUE, SO WHAT WOULD BE YOUR PER SPEC ON THE IDEA OF GOING TO 30? IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE COLI'NCIL, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN IMPLEMENT. I THINK

THAT WHAT YOU WILL FIND THE RESULT ARE THAT VARIANCES IN PROPOSALS ON SOME

OF THOSE CATEGORIES WITH LOWER WEIGHTS WILL NOT, MAY HAVE A PROVIDER WHO

PROPOSES SUPERIOR SUSTAINABILITY SERVICES TO ANOTHER PROPOSER WHO MIGHT NOT SUCCEED ON THE RIGHT FRONT. IT JUST MEANS THAT YOU SHOULD EXPECT IS THE

POSSIBILITY AND THE EVALUATION OUTCOMES OF TRADE-OFFS THAT FAVOR RATES VERY HIGHLY IN COMPARISON TO OTTMR VALUES. THAT'S PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE AWARE THAT WITH PROVIDING DIRECTION.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO TAKE A MINUTE TO WEIGH IN. I LIKE TFIE IDEA OF INCREASING THE PERCENTAGE, GIVEN THE PROPOSED SERVICE RATES AND VALUE. I'M

CONCERNED,IT GIVEN WHAT I'VE SEEN OUR COMMLINITY VALUE IN OUR CURRENT, I'M

CONCERNED ABOUT REDUCING SOME OF THESE BELOW WHAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY, COMMTINICATION OUTREACH AND CUSTOMER SERVICE. REDUCING THAT BELOW IO SEEMS LIKE A POTENTIAL MISTAKE, TO ME. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN 25% FOR SERVICE

RATES AND VALUE AND QUALITY OF SERVANTS AND REFERENCES AND THEN SUSTAINABILITY IN EQUAL AMOT]NTS TO CAPTURE THAT 5% INCREASE. HAVING SAID THAT,I'M CURIOUS ABOUT HONORING AD HOC COMMITTEE MEMBERS. WE SHOULD DO THE PRICE, FOR THE PRESENT. THEN, I PERSONALLY FIAVE TO GIVE RECOGNITION TO OUR

AD HOC COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO LOOKED INTO THIS AND I SUPPORT TFIEIR PROPOSAL, PERSONALLY. ANY, VICE MAYOR?
IT WOULD BE, THE 30, I GET THAT. ON THE OTHER CATEGORIES WOULD BE ADJUSTED? OKAY. GOOD.

SO WE WOULD HAVE FINANCIAL ABILITY, INTEGRITY WOULD MEAN AT FIVE, COMMLINICATION OUTREACH AND CUSTOMER SERVICE ARE REDUCED TO EIGHT.

COMMUNITY EMPLOYMENT PARTNERSHIP TO FIGHT, AND THEN PROPOSED SERVICES, IMPROVEMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY TO 13, SERVICE RATES AND VALUE TO 30, SUSTAINABILITY AND REFERENCES TO 18. THAT WORKS? YEAH. I THINK THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR A MOTION. A MOTION.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

WAS THAT A SUFFICIENT MOTION?
I SECOND.

OKAY.

HOLD ON. OKAY. SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER MAUER AND SECONDED BY COL]NCILMEMBER McLEWIS TO APPROVE THE EVALUATION CRITERIA INCLUDED IN THE

REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, DOCUMENT FOR THE NEW RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION, AS STATED, LET ME MAKE SURE I HAVE THESE CORRECT. TFIE EQUALITY OF SERVICES AND REFERENCES, 18 POINT, SUSTAINABILITY, 18 POINT, SERVICE RATES AND VALUE,30 POINTS, PROPOSED SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY 13 POINT, COMMUNITY EMPLOYMENT AND PARTNERSHIP EIGHT, FINANCIAL ABILITY AND INTEGRITY, FTVE.

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WE ARE DONE WITH THAT ITEM. I HAVE TO SAY TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE HERE FOR THE CEASE-FIRE, ITEM, IT WILL NOT BE HEARD TONIGHT. I'M LOOKING AT THE CLOCK, IT'S ALMOST IO:OO, AND I JUST CANNOT IMAGINE WE ARE GOING TO REACH IT. I AM GOING TO US THAT EVERYONE REMAINED QUIET IN THE ROOM, PLEASE DO NOT BE DISRUPTIVE. I WILL HAVE TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE, THAT WAS A WARNING. WE WILL HAVE TO REMOVE you rF you cANNoT coMpl-y WITH ouR REQUEST. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON. OKAY.

SOMEONE REALLY NEEDS TO MOVE. THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO IS HERE FOR OTHER ITEMS, LET'S STAY CALM IN THE ROOM. THIS IS A PASSIONATE ISSUE AND WE CANNOT BLAME THEM. THANK YOU . IF WE COULD, PLEASE, WE WILL GTVE US A FEW MINUTES TO SETTLE DOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LET'S TAKE A BREAK. LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS, BUT NO, WELL, NO, I THINK WE CAN CALM DOWN. WE DO NEED TO MOVE

FORWARD WITH THE AGENDA SO PLEASE LET'S COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND WE ARE STILL TN SESSION. WE ARE STILL IN SESSION. OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES AND NO LONGER. THANK YOU, EVERYONE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

I THE EVENT IS ON A RECESS. THE SESSION WILL RECONVENE AT 10:00. CAPTIONER ON STANDBY. l
I CAPTIONER STANDING BY ]
ALL RIGHT. LET'S GET THIS MEETING MOVING.

I BELIEVE I GOT THE THUMBS-UP FROM I.T. YES,I DID. WE ARE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, ONCE AGAIN. I APPRECIATE THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE STILL HERE AND HAVE BEEN PATIENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS. PEOPLE ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT ISSUES AND -- I'M SORRY? PEOPLE BECOME VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT ISSUES AND THAT'S ONE OF THE STRENGTHS OF THIS COMMUNITY. OUR PASSION ABOUT ISSUES DID WE NEED TO EMBRACE THAT AND OCCASIONALLY A GETS A LITTLE CRAZY. WE ARE

GOING FORWARD ON OUR AGENDA, TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION AND CONTRACT WITH ST. VINCENT DePAUL, REGARDING CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE COMMONS, LOCATED AT 850 GRAM STAIN HIGHWAY, BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL AND SOCIETY OF ST. VINCENT DePAUL DISTRICT COUNCIL OF SONOMA. BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER TO CITY

MANAGER TO PRESENT THIS ITEMS, PLEASE REMIND US OF OUR POLICY REGARDING AND OF MEETING.

CITY COUNCIL PROTOCOL IS THAT A MEETING ENDS AT IO:30 UNLESS THERE'S A

UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THE ENTIRE CITY COLINCIL TO GO BEYOND THE LATEST WE CAN GO IS 1l:30.

THANK YOU. AS A REMINDER TO OUR CITY MANAGER, AND I THINK WE HAVE A REPRESENTATTVE FROM ST. VINCENT DePAUL, WHO IS MAKING A BRIEF PRESENTATION, WE NEED TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS WE CAN IN THIS PROCESS. IF WE INTERRUPT THIS ITEM IN TFIE MIDDLE, WHAT HAPPENS, DO WE CONTINUE IT OR DO WE HAVE TO RESTART? IF YOU COME TO 10:30 AND THERE'S NOT A LI-NANIMOUS VOTE AND YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF TFIE SITE AND YOU WOULD CONTINUE IT TO ANOTHER MEETING. YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO START OVER FROM THE BEGINNING, ruST CONTINUE TFIE CONVERSATION.

THIS IS JUST AN ALERT TO OUR CITY COUNCILMEMBERS THAT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AT 10:30. AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE TURN IT OVER TO CITY MANAGER TO PRESENT HIS PORTION OF THE ITEM.

THANK YOU. I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN. I WILL PROCEED WITH THE PRESENTATION. IN ADDITION TO MY PRESENTATION, WE -.

I'M SORRY, TO THE EXTENT TFIERE'S ANYONE IN }IERE HERE FOR THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS THE ZOOlt4 CONSIDERATION OF DISCONTINUATION OF THE ZOO:]M

PLATFORM, THAT WILL ALSO NOT BE HEARD TONIGHT SO PLEASE DO NOT FEEL THAT YOU NEED TO REMAIN. GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY.

I ALSO JOINED BY MARGARET, TTM CONSULTANT HIRED TO CONDUCT THE RISK ASSESSMENT AS PART OF THE PACKAGE. ON, CAN I GET THIS TO MOVE FORWARD? SORRY.

YEAH. I'M NOT SURE WHY THIS ISN'T DOING .-
SO YOU ARE FIGURING OUT TECHNICAL ISSUES.

YOU GOT IT? SO, MY QUESTION .. WHETHER WE FEEL THE SINGING OUT THERE IS DISRUPTIVE IN ANY WAY, IF YOU DO, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THE A}TWFBf$ YES.

PERHAPS THEY COULD MOVE ON TO THE DECK, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD. I KNOW. OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO GO FORWARD AS SOON AS OUR CITY MANAGER, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE TIIE SLIDE LINDER CONTROL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.

OKAY, THANK YOU. PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, THE FORM OF HOUSING WE ARE

TALKING ABOUT IS AN ESSENTIAL SUPPORT OF THE SOLUTION TO HOMELESSNESS AND I HAVE BEEN STRONGLY ADVOCATING FOR THIS FUNDING THROUGH MY 5+ YEARS ON THE CARE BOARD, INCLUDING SUPPORTING THE ST. VINCENT DEPAUL PROJECT. WE WILL NOT SOLVE HOMELESSNESS WITHOUT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND THAT SIMPLE.

I'M SORRY, COULD YOU JUST PUT THAT MICROPHONE RIGHT UP AND SPEAK UP, THANK YOU.

QUALIFYING COMMENTS TO KICK OFF THIS ITEM, I CONSIDER MYSELF EXPERIENCED IN HOMELESSNESS ISSUES. I AM ANYTHING BUT AN EXPERT ON THIS PROJECT AND IT

INCLUDES COMPLEX REQUIREMENTS AND I'VE CONDUCTED A FAIRLY TIME-CONSUMING

ANALYSIS AND REVIEW BUT I AM FIRST TO ADMIT THAT I STILL DON'T FULLY

LINDERSTAND THE PROJECT REQUIREMENTS OF CITY AND STATE AND I HAVE A HARD

TIME UNDERSTANDING EVERYTHING IN PART BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS CONTINUING TO CHANGE WITH SOME FREQUENCY. I WILL GIVE YOU MY BEST LTNDERSTANDING AS OF THIS EVENING. SO, THERE ARE THREE AREAS OF RISK TO TI{E PROJECT AS I SEE IT IN T}IE FIRST IS IN CAPITAL FUNDING. $5.8 MILLION FOR CAPITAL FLINDING IN THE APPLICATION THAT WE SUBMITTED WITH ST. VINCENT DePAUL, YESTERDAY, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL SAYING THAT $I0.7 MILLION WAS A REASONABLE TARGET FOR CAPITAL EXPENSES SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP AND THE RISK ASSESSMENT INDICATED A $5

MILLION GAP AND THAT THERE SHOULD BE A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH THE PROJECT. MY CURRENT UNDERSTANDING OF

THAT WAS RIGHT AROUND THAT BY MILLION DOLLAR NUMBER AND THEN SUBTRACT FROM THAT ANY ST. VINCENT DePAUL COMMITMENT. AS OF THIS MOMENT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT AMOLINT IS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS SOURCES THAT COULD FILL THAT GAP.

WE HAVE NOTICE FROM THE COUNTY HEALTH DIRECTOR THAT SFIE HAS SET ASIDE $3 MILLION IN COUNTY FT]NDS TO BE USED AS NEEDED. THOSE FUNDS DO REQUIRE A

PROJECT BEFORE THEY WOULD BE COMMITTED AND AN ACCURATE THING WE FEEL THE

SAME IN THAT, DON'T COUNT ON THEM UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THE APPROVAL AND THAT WAS IN THE RECOMMENDATION. GENERALLY, YOU DON'T COLINT ON ANY

GOVERNING BODIES ACTIONS IN ADVANCE OF THOSE ACTIONS BECAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE UNDERSTAND IS A $2.5 MILLION LETTER OF CREDIT OPEN. THERE WOULD BE PAYMENT PLAN REQUIRED TO PAY THAT BACK. TMRE'S A POTENTIAL TO SHIFT $671,000 IN OPERATING COST BUDGET TO THE CAPITAL COST AND

THAT SEEMS TO BE A GOOD LIKELIHOOD THAT MAY HAPPEN BUT IT DOES REQUIRE STATE APPROVAL. I PUT A QUESTION ABOUT THE I.5 MILLION, THAT'S MY BEST UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT VINCENT DePAUL WOULD PUT AGAINST THE FUNDING CAP THAT AGAIN, THE

CONFIDENCE WE HAVE IN THESE NUMBERS IS SIMILAR BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT DONE THE

ASSESSMENT RECOMMENDED ON TFIE CAPITAL BUDGET, THAT IT BE LOOKED AT MORE CLOSELY INCLUDING THE BUILDING PLAN AND THE SITE ANYMORE DETAILED FASHION.

ON THE OPERATING FUNDING SIDE WHICH IS WHERE WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE WHEN WE STARTED ON THIS ADVENTURE, OUR CONFIDENCE IN RECEIVING VOUCHERS IS HIGH.

THIS IS A 15 YEAR PROJECT SO THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT COME ABOUT HOW CONFIDENT ARE WE THE BADGERS WILL CONTINUE FOR 15 YEARS AND I TALKED TO DAVE

KISS, THE COTINTY HOMELESSNESS LIAISON ABOUT THIS AND SAID THAT HE HAS THINGS

THAT ARE WELL PROTECTED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, AT LEAST AT THE LEVEL IT TAKES TO SUSTAIN THIS PROJECT. THERE IS SOME RISK AND I WANT TO DISMISS THAT. THERE'S

NO RISK TN A PROJECT LIKE THIS BUT WE HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE THAT THE FEDERAL VOUCHERS WILL BE THERE IN THE LONG RUN. THIS IS FINANCIALLY

REQUIRED IN YEAR SIX, BASED ON THEIR CURRENT FUNDRAISING RECORD AND SO TFIE QUESTION BECOMES, IS THIS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A PRIORITY OF THEIRS FOR 15 YEARS. THAT'S A LONG TIME FOR ANY ORGANIZATION TO BE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEARLY

ONE OF THEIR PRIORITIES, THAT IS SOMETHING THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO CONSIDER WHEN MAKING YOUR DECISION. OVERALL, THIS SEEMS LOWER THAN TFIE RISK ON THE CAPITAL SIDE. THERE'S ANOTHER CATEGORY OF RISK OR CONCERN THAT HAS COME UP AND I THINK ABOUT IT AS ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY AND THEN CITY CAPAGU&Y4,T}6D TIMING.

EVERY CITY I KNOW OF THAT HAS A HOME KEY PROJECT HAS FULL-TIME STAFF WHO HAVE HOUSING EXPERTISE. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT. I THINK TTM CLOSEST PERSON TO

LINDERSTANDING HOMELESSNESS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND A FORMAL HOUSING AS HE SAID,

I CERTAINLY DON'T TINDERSTAND THESE REPORTS WELL SO TO ME, WHAT I BELIEVE,

FROM TALKING TO COLLEAGUES IN OTHER CITIES, THERE'S A DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT CAPACITY. IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME IN THE INITIAL PHASE. WE ARE OBLIGATED FOR COMPLIANCE, MEETING

STATE REQUIREMENTS, MEETING THE REPORT FROM LAST MAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAND OFF TO ST. VINCENT DePAUL AND LET THEM RUN FINANCE AND WE CANNOT DO THAT. WE ARE PRIORITIZING STATE SIZE. WE WOULD NEED IT THIRD-PARTY

EXPERT WITH HLINKY EXPERIENCE TO MANAGE OUR INTEREST AND KEEP ON TOP OF THAT. IF WE ARE ABLE TO FIND ONE, THERE IS A CONSIDERABLE AMOLTNT OF WORK THAT NEEDS To BE DbNE ON NEGOTIATING AGREEMENTS WITH THEM, CHECKING STATE REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT, STATE

DEADLINES, THEY EXPECT AN AGREEMENT BY THE MIDDLE OR END OF MAY BUT THOSE DEADLINES MAY BE FLEXIBLE. IT'S A LITTLE AMBIGUOUS, BUT TI{EY SEEM TO BE

DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN OTHER PROJECTS AND MAKING THESE CHANGES IS TYPICAL OF THEM WILLING TO BE FLEXIBLE. I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHAT THEIR FLEXIBILITY IS

AND IF WE DO PROCEED BECAUSE OF THE TIME COMMITMENT, WE WILL ASK THE

COLTNCIL TO ADJUST PRIORITIES AND FEEL THIS TO BE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST,

SOMETHING WILL HAVE TO DROP, THIS CANNOT DO EVERYTHING ON THE PLATE AND THE

TIME REQUIRED TO ATTEND THIS PROJECT WHICH IS IMPORTANT THAT IT GETS ATTENTION BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL RISKS TO THE CITY IF THINGS GO WRONG. YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT, OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE AWARE OF IT, WE ARE IN A SERIOUS EMERGENCY.

THERE IS A RISK OF NOT PROCEEDING BUT I WOULD PUT A CAVEAT. ST. VINCENT DE PAUL INTENDS TO RETURN OCCUPANTS TO THE GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS. THE NOTION IS THAT

WOULD REDUCE THE RISK OF INHABITANTS IN SEBASTOPOL, BEING MOVED FROM WHERE TFIEY ARE NOW WHICH IS I BELIEVE, TFIE FAIRGROUNDS, TO THE ST. VINCENT PROJECT IN SANTA ROSA. OUR PROJECT IS BUILT AND THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO RETURN HERE. THAT TS ONLY GOING TO WORK IF OUR PROJECT MOVES FORWARD. IT'S NOT CLEAR IF THE STATE WILL ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. I BELIEVE IT'S INCONSISTENT BUT I'M NOT AN EXPERT WITH THE INITIAL PLAN SUBMITTED. WE'VE ASKED THE STATE TO

PUT OUT A LINE ON THAT AND I RECEIVED AN EMAIL THAT SUGGESTS THEY ARE WORKING AT THAT BUT I'M NOT SURE THEY ARE. WE ASKED THEM TO GET BACK TO US TODAY AND HAVE NOT HEARD BACK. THERE ARE COLTNTY FOLKS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO

GIVE US A DEFINITIVE ANSWER ON THAT, AS WELL BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER AS TO WTIETHER ORNOT THAT IS APPLICABLE IN THIS CASE ORNOT. SO TO SUMMARIZETTIE KEY ISSUES, WE ARE IN A FISCAL EMERGENCY. WE HAVE TO BE VERY DILIGENT ABOUT TAKING ON RISKS. THERE SEEMS TO BE A GAP IN CAPITAL FINANCING WITH NUMEROUS POSSIBLE, BUT NO CONFIRMED SOURCES TO FILL THAT GAP. THE COST

ESTIMATES ARE LTNCERTAIN BECAUSE THERE IS SOME DUE DILIGENCE THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE. POLICE AND FIRE, THERE WERE COMMENTS IN THE PRIOR MEETING ABOUT NO COST TO CITY. THERE IS NO DIRECT DELIBERATE COST BUT POLICE AND FIRE CHIEFS HAVE BOTH SAID THAT IF THIS PROJECT WAS THAT, IT WILL REQUIRE TIME AND USE. IT'S NOT DOLLAR COST, IT'S A TIME COST. I THOUGHT I WOULD MENTION THAT IN CASE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU. ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY, I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN

PROCEED SOON WITHOUT REVISITING THE PRIORITIES AND I DON'T HONESTLY KNOW WI{ETHER TIMING WILL BE KEPT. IT WOULD BE NUMEROUS MONTHS OF SLOWER

PROGRESS OR MINIMAL PROGRESS WHILE WE DEAL WITH THE OTHER ISSUES WE HAVE AND IN THE SUMMARY OF KEY ISSUES. THERE IS SOME RISK OF MORE ENCAMPMENTS

WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE ARE NOT SURE THE PLAN TO MINIMIZE THAT RISK IS VIABLE

OR NOT BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE APPROVAL FROM THE STATE OR ANY OTHER AGENCY. I THINK THAT IS BASICALLY IT. IF WE DO PROCEED, THERE IS A REVISED

RESOLUTION THAT THE STATE HAS ASKED US TO SUBMIT AND THAT IS CLEANUP FROM THE MAY MEETING. WE WANT TO GET AN ANSWER FROM THE STATE ON THE RETURN FOR RISE AND SHINE OCCUPANTS. WE WANT TO NOTIFY THE STATE THAT THE PROJECT IS

SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE APPLICATION, BECAUSE I THTNK THAT'S TRUE AND THEY'VE ASKED US TO RETURN SOMETHING CALLED A PROJECT REPQB\$BEFORE WE PROCEED FURTHER. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE SIGNTNG THAT BECAUSE THE PROJECT

REPORT IS SUPPOSED TO REFLECT THE DETAILS AS LINDERSTOOD AT THE TIME OF AWARD

AND I THINK THAT MEANS THE CONDITIONAL AWARD LETTER AND THE PROJECT IS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT WE APPLIED FOR NOR WHAT WE SAW AT TI{E TIME OF THE AWARD. I

WOULD NOTIFY THEM OF THAT AND NOT COMFORTABLE RETURNING THE PROJECT

REPORT UNTIL WE DO MORE DUE DILIGENCE WHICH IS OUTLINED, IT COLINTS ON IDENTIFICATION AND US ACCEPTING THE PROJECT EXPERT, BUT T}IEY WOULD

ESSENTIALLY WORK IN OUR DIRECTION BECAUSE WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WORK WITH

THEM, IF THEY CAN FIND SOMEONE, AND WE FIND THEM ACCEPTABLE, NEGOTIATE SCOPE

OF WORK, AND BRING THAT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND THEN

DIRECT THE EXPERT TO REVIEW DOCUMENTS AND REQUIREMENTS REQUIRED BY THE

STATE AND SUBMIT THOSE AND ASK THEM TO CONDUCT THE WORK RECOMMENDED,

WOULD BE MY OTFIER SUGGESTION BUT AGAIN, IF WE DECIDE TO GO DOWN THIS PATH,

WE ASK YOU TO REVISIT TFIE PRIORITIES RECOGNIZE THE TIMING CONSTRAINTS AND THIS HAS TO WAIT UNTIL AUGUST AT THE EARLIEST. I HAVE THE PRIORITIES, THOSE ARE THE

TOP THINGS ON MY PLATE AVAILABLE BUT I WILL STOP THERE AND LET YOU PROCEED AS YOU LIKE.

GREAT, THANK YOU . WE ALSO }IAVE JACK TIBBETTS IN THE ROOM. I THINK IT WOULD BE

WORTHWHILE TO GET HIS COMMENTS SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER THEM AS WE LOOK AT THIS ITEM. BEFORE HE SPEAKS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS BEFORE WE HEAR FROM JACK? NO? OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD IF YOU COULD. DO YOU NEED TO SHARE A SCREEN WITH US?
IS IT POSSIBLE, THANK YOU. NEXT SLIDE, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I WILL TRY

TO BE QUICK, I KNOW WE ALL WANT TO GO HOME BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE

THIS PROJECT A ROBUST WORK AND THE TIME IT DESERVES BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT YOUR BENEFIT ST. VINCENT DePAUL OR THE CITY, IT'S TO BENEFIT UP TO 30 PEOPLE THAT GO THROUGH IMMENSE STRUGGLES EVERY SINGLE DAY. I DO WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO THE CITY MANAGER'S COMMENTS.

WE DO HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN OUR BUDGET. WE HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR NUMBER, $6,038,000 AS COST OF CONSTRUCTION. I RECOGNIZETHAT DILIGENT REPORT, HE IDENTIFIED A $5 MILLION GAP BASED ON WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE AS THE COUNTY AVERAGE OF COST PER TINIT IN THIS COLINTY OF $500-$600,000 AND IN MY RESPONSE I WILL GO INTO DETAILS ABOUT WHY I HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE. SIMILARLY, WE DO HAVE,

I RECEIVED INFORMATION TODAY, I WILL EMAIL YOU TOMORROW,I GOT IT LAST MINUTE FROM THE STATE. I DID IDENTIFY IN THE APPLICATION WERE DATES UP TO 49% OF PREVIOUSLY LOCATED TENANTS CAN RETURN TO THE NEW PROJECT. I HAD A QUICK

CONVERSATION WITH TY HELTON VIA EMAIL WHERE HE STATED THAT THEIR BELIEF IS

THAT AS LONG AS EACH CD IS NOT DEFINING WHAT WE DO WITH THE RELOCATED

TENANTS, THEY WOULD HONOR ANYBODY WITH TENANTS RIGHTS AND ALLOW THEM TO RETURN AND TAKE PRIORITY. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT, WHAT WE ARE

REALLY TALKING ABOUT, THE QUESTION COMES DOWN TO MAKING SURE THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL IS FINANCIALLY SECURE.

JACK, I WILL INTERRUPT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS, BECAUSE CES IS NOT A TERM ALL OF

US UNDERSTAND, IS THAT THOSE PEOPLE FROM THE RISE AND SHINE VILLAGE WOULD

HELP REPLACEMENT AT GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS, DESPITE OUR COUNTYWIDE COORDINATOR AT ENTRY PROCESS.

AS I LINDERSTAND IT. BEING A HOME KEY PROJECT, WE WANT TO TAKE NEW, CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PEOPLE OFF THE STREET AND HOUSE THEM. 49%OF 22,27, OF WHAT?

22. TTIE 22 LINITS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD. I WOULD ALSO CONTEND THAT TFM PROJECT IS THE SAME IN TERMS OF WHAT WE SUBMITTED IN THE STATE. THERE HAVE

BEEN NO MAJOR DESIGN REVISIONS, NO CHANGE IN THE NUMBER OF LINITS SERVED,

WHICH I THTNK WOULD BE KEY MATERIAL DIFFERENCES THAT HOME KEY IS PROBABLY MOST CONCERNED ABOUT. WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS SHORING UP THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE TI{E FINANCIAL SITUATION . THE LAST THING IN

THE WORLD ANYONE WANTS IS A PROJECT TO FAIL AND YOU POTENTIALLY HAVING TO RETURN $6.5 MILLION. WHAT WE ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS HOW WE ARE GOTNG TO SHORE UP THE CITY AND WHAT'S APPS WE ARE GOING TO TAKE. I'M GOIIYfUilOPIyE INTO THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AND GO AS QUICKLY AS I CAN. THIS IS THE GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS, A 22 LTNITPROJECT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THAT IS WITH THE

DESIGN RENDERINGS ARE OF WHAT THE PROJECT WOULD LOOK LIKE SO WHEN YOU DRIVE BY ON GRAVENSTEIN HIGHWAY, THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD BE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. QUICKLY, THE GENESIS OF THE PROJECT, I WANT TO REMIND YOU I STAND

BEFORE YOU NOT BECAUSE I ASKED SEBASTOPOL TO BUILD THE PROJECT BUT BECAUSE SEBASTOPOL ASKED ST. VINCENT DePAUL TO INTERVENE IN TFIE ISSUES. WE WERE ASKED

BY THE CITY TO ASSIST AND WE ARE ASKED BY THE CITY TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY

AND ASKED BY THE CITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SEEKING FUNDING TO BUILD PERMANENT HOUSING. I ruST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I WILL SKIP THE PROJECT DETAILS UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS FROM THE COL]NCIL ABOUT IT.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL ON PROJECT DETAILS? NO.

I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE PLANNING IN THE OPERATIONAL SIDE OF THE PROJECT A 24

SEVEN ON-SITE RESIDENT MANAGER TO MAKE SURE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT GOES

ON BUT THE NIGHT, THERE IS SOMEONE CONTINUOUSLY ON-SITE TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT COULD ARISE. RESIDENTS WILL ALSO BE SUPPORTED BY A 1 .2 FULL TIME

EQUIVALENT CASE MANAGEMENT TEAM WHO WORKS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AT THE COMML]NITY. THIS IS A CASE MANAGEMENT RATIO OF I TO i4, EXCEEDING THE INDUSTRY STANDARD. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SOME OF THE GRANT OBLIGATIONS WE ARE FACING, AS

CO-APPLICANTS, WE AND CITY OF SEBASTOPOL ARE LIABLE FOR DEFAULT OR BREACH OF THE STANDARD AGREEMENT. WE HAVE 18 MONTHS TO CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT, TFIE

TIMELINE BEGINS WHEN THE AWARD LETTER IS ISSUED AND ENDS WITH THE PROJECT IS 90% COMPLETE. EXTENSIONS ARE COMMONLY GRANTED WITHOUT ISSUE, THAT WAS OUR EXPERIENCE WITH HOME KEY TWO. THEY ALSO ASK FOR MILESTONES AND HAVE A HISTORY OF GETTING THEM CONTINUED. ONCE CONSTRUCTED, WE WILL MONITOR

OPERATIONS FOR FIVE YEARS TO ENSURE OPERATIONAL STAFFING MINIMUMS ARE MAINTAINED ON THE PROPERTIES BEING USED FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE. THE OBLIGATIONS ARE RELEASED AFTER I5 YEARS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE'VE BEEN

WORKING WITH STAFF TO MITIGATE RISK TO THE FINANCIALLY STRAPPED CITY AND

HERE ARE THINGS WE AGREED TO AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT AFTER CONVERSING

WITH CITY MANAGER SHORT, WE KEEP TRYING TO COME TO TIIE TABLE TO DO

ADDITIONAL THINGS TO MAKE THE CITY FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AND MORE SECURE ABOUT THE PROJECT. ONE THING WE'VE DONE IS WE AGREED TO SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT TI{AT WOULD LEGALLY BIND THINGS IN TFIE DePAUL TO BE THE ENTITY IN FIRST

POSITION TO REFUND ANY MONEY TO THE STATE IN THE EVENT OF DEFAULT OR BREACH OF CONTRACT.

JACK, I WILL STOP YOU FOR A MINUTE. I SEE 10:30 CREEPING UP ON US. I WANT TO CHECK

WITH COUNCILMEMBERS,IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADJOURN AT 10:30 OR ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE IT UNTIL THIS ITEM IS DONE OR INTEL, SORRY, 1 l:30, NO LATER? ANYONE? OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD PROCEED' I

THINK IT WOULD BE USEFUL,I KNOW THIS CITY COLTNCIL, I THINK MAYBE WHAT WE NEED IS TO JUST, THERE ARE QUESTIONS, SO PLEASE, LET'S ruST GET THE QUESTIONS GOING BECAUSE WE CAN GET TO THE POINT. GO AHEAD.

I ruST WANTED TO ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING, SIGNING AN AFFIDAVIT THAT MAKES THEM,IN FIRST POSITION, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. IF WE ARE EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE, HOW BINDING IS THAT?

IN THE EYES OF THE STATE WE WOULD STILL BE EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE BETWEEN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND ST. VTNCENT DEPAUL. THEY WOULD BE IN THE FIRST POSITION BETWEEN THE TWO OF US.

MEANING -- WE COULD SUE THEM?
WE ARE TRYING TO PROCESS THAT.

BUT THE STATE, WHO WE ULTIMATELY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR, SEES US AS EQUAL RESPONSIBILITY.

AND MANY DEVELOPMENTS, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROJECT WHICH IS INTERESTING,

BUT BASICALLY IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT WE ARE, IN THEIR EYES, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE SIGN, IN THEIR EYES, WE ARE WHO THEY LOOK TO.

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THANK YOU. IT'S A QUESTION TO ANYBODY ON STAFF. GIVEN FINANCIALLY, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR CURRENT PEOPLE THAT WE OWE MONEY TO? I ASSUME THAT WE OWE MONEY TO ANYONE TAKING ON RISK IS GOING TO CHANGE THEIR POSITION.

THAT'S A QUESTION THAT HAD NOT OCCURRED TO ME TO LOOK AT. I DON'T KNOW IF OUR EXISTING OBLIGATIONS PROHIBIT US FROM TAKING ON ANY ADDITIONAL RISK. WE ARE

NOT ACTUALLY TAKING ON DEBT, PER SE, BUT THERE IS RISK WE ARE TAKTNG ON IT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT OUR PROVISIONS ARE.

I AM GOING TO, I'VE LOOKED THROUGH ALL OF THESE SLIDES, I LOOKED AT THESE MATERIALS. WE LISTENED TO THE CITY MANAGER. I KNOW YOU HAVE OT}IER SLIDE THAT

YOU NEED TO MOVE THROUGH, BUT IT STRIKES ME THAT WHAT WE ARE HEARING, SO

FAR, IS THAT ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE, I HAVE MY REPORT, ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE,

HE INDICATES THAT THE PROJECT IS EFFECTIVELY OKAY, ON TTIE MANAGEMENT

APPROACH SIDE, AGAIN, HE SAYS THE PROJECTIS BASICALLY OKAY, TINCOORDINATED

ENTRY, BASICALLY OKAY, AND ON OPERATIONS, HE SAYS YOU'VE UNDERESTIMATED

YOUR RENTAL INCOME AND SO IN FACT, THERE'S ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THAT RENTAL INCOME ON OPERATIONS. WHAT I AM SEEING AND HEARING FROM OUR CITY MANAGER, AS A MAJOR QUESTION MARK, ON TI{E MONEY SIDE, IS THE CAPITAL BUDGET. I LOOK AT THE CAPITAL BUDGET AND I SEE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS ACTUALLY, $2 MILLION OR SO. YOU HAVE ON THAT BUDGET $7 MILLION. THAT IS I THINK THE $5 MILLION GAP TFIAT WE HEARD OUR CITY MANAGER TALK ABOUT MY QUESTION

REALLY BOILS DOWN TO, HOW IS THAT,IS THAT ACCURATE, AND FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, IS THAT ACCURATE AND HOW WILL THAT BE FILLED? AGAIN, AS THE DEVELOPER,I HAVE TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN MY ARCHITECT, AND I DO.

SHE'S A WOMAN WHO SPECIALIZES IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE STATES, PRIMARILY IN TT{E COI.INTY OF SAN FRANCISCO AND SHE RATIONALIZES IN SEATAC, WHICH ARE NOT EASY APPLICATIONS, THOSE ARE COMPLICATED, COMPLEX PROJECTS. I CONSIDER HER A SKILLED ARCHITECT. THE $6 MILLION BUDGET IS HER BUDGET THAT SHE IS CREATED IN CONJUNCTION WITH 14ERS CONSTRUCTION, OUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

HOWEVER, I RECOGNIZE THAT YOU HAVE A REPORT BEFORE YOU THAT SIGNALS A $5

MILLION GAP SO I'VE BEEN WORKING MY BEHIND OFF FOR THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS TRYING TO COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO SHORE UP ST. VINCENT DEPAUL IN THIS PARTNERSHIP. WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE OPEN THE LINE OF CREDIT ON ONE OF OUR BUILDINGS, WE OWN OVER $20 MILLION IN REAL PROPERTY ASSET IN ADDITION TO A CASH FLOW BUDGET EVERY YEAR OF $2.2 MILLION. FINANCIALLY, WE ARE A WELLHEELED CITY. OF THAT $5 MILLION GAP, $2.5 MILLION IS ACCOLINTED FOR.

ADDITIONALLY, THANKS TO SUPERVISOR HOPKINS, I EXPLAINED THE SITUATION AND SF{E WORKED WITH DHS DIRECTOR, TINA RIVERA TO SET ASIDE $3 MILLION IN NONCOMPETITIVE FUNDING. AS I LINDERSTAND IT, THE WAY THAT WORKS, THE MONEY IS AN ACCOLINT WITH DHS, THAT EARMARKS $3 MILLION AND IF WE EXPERIENCE A

CREDIBLE COST OVERRUN, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY AND GO

ON THE BOARD OF CONSENT CALENDAR APPROVALS BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHEN IS THE

WITH US BUT PERHAPS SHE CAN SPEAK TO THAT AND SHE INTIMATED TO ME IN A TEXT MESSAGE EARLIER THAT WHAT THEY ruST NEED IS A CONTRACT TO BE DRAWN UP. AT

THIS POINT, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I FEEL INCREDIBLY CONFIDENT IN THE PROJECT BUT I DO NOT SEE A DEVAULT .- A DEFAULT ON THE HORIZON AND THE LAST I'LL SAY,

PULLING DIRECTLY FROM THE AIRPORT IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, HCD DOES NOT WANT US TO FAIL. THEY WANT THE HOUSING FINISMD, THEY WANT IT BROUGHT TO BEAR IN

THE FIGHT AGAINST HOMELESSNESS AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FULFILL GAVIN NEWSOM'S PRIORITY WHEN HE SET UP THIS PROJECT. WHAT IS PROBABLY MORE LIKELY IS IF IN THE EVENT THAT ST. VINCENT DCPAUL CATASTROPHICALLY SCREWS THIS UP, THEY WOULD PROBABLY LOOK TO THE COT]NTY OF SONOMA TO TAKE POSSESSION AND TITLE OF THE PROPERTY, FINISH, OPERATE, OR ANOTFIER OPERATOR. HOPEFULLY I

PARAPHRASE OF THE LAST PAGE OF YOUR REPORT ACCURATELY, THAT I THINK IT'S A PRETTY SECURE PROJECT.

OKAY, THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER?
I FEEL LIKE WE SKIPPED AROUND, FOR TF{E PUBLIC, WHO MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE READING THIS I FEEL FOR THE PUBLIC. Pase 58 of 69

I FEEL LIKE WE JUMPED AHEAD AND WENT INTO COMMENT AND THEN A QUESTION AND NOW THE PUBLIC IS LIKE, WHERE ARE WE?
THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER AND GETTING A SETTLED BACK DOWN AGAIN. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. GO AHEAD.

I'M GOING.

WHO OWNS THE BUILDING AFTER 15 YEARS OR WHO OWNS TFIE BUILDING TO BEGIN WITH?
ST. VINCENT DEPAUL PAID
AFTER 15, ST. VINCENT DEPAUL STILL. THANK YOU DID
THANK YOU BID PLEASE, IF YOU COULD PROCEED.

THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE AGREED TO,IS AN ADDITIONAL IO% CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENCY ON TOP OF TF{E EXISTING 15% CONTINGENCY WHICH ADDS AN ADDITIONAL CAPITAL CUSHION OF $644,000 TO THE PROJECT. WHAT WE'VE ALSO AGREED

TO DEAL IS PULL MONEY OUT OF POCKET EVERY YEAR TO FLIND THE OPERATIONAL

ACCOLINT AND DO SO UP TO ONE YEAR IN ADVANCE HOPEFULLY MITIGATE CONCERNS THAT WE COULD HIT A FISCAL CLIFF DURING ONE OF THE 15 YEARS OF OPERATING THE

FACILITY, AND THEN WE WOULD GIVE THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL ACCESS , WITH THE

ABILITY TO ASK US FOR STATEMENTS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE MONEY AND ICON, THAT

THINGS ARE OPERATING SMOOTHLY, COMPLETE AND UTTER TRANSPARENCY WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCIALS OF OPERATION. AGAIN, IT WOULD BE FUNDED EVERY YEAR, ONE

YEAR IN ADVANCE SO YOU KNEW THAT WE WOULD HAVE A WHOLE YEAR TO WORK TOGETHER. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE JUMP TO THAT, I SHOULD ADD

A, THIS IS AT THE END OF THE SLIDE PRESENTATION, BUT TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE

PREVAILING CONCERNS OF STAFF, WHICH I COMPLETELY LTNDERSTAND, THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL IS A RELATIVELY SMALLER CIry. WE DON'T HAVE A HOUSING AUTHORITY OR A ROBUST HOUSING EXPERTS, ST. VINCENT DEPAUL REALLY WANTS TO DO THIS

PROJECT FOR PEOPLE AND SO WHAT WE AGREED TO DO IS LEGAL SUPPORT, FOR

ANYTHING RELATED TO THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS STAFF SUPPORT WITH THE HOUSING EXPERT. WE ARE HOPING THAT WE CAN LIGHTEN THE LOAD A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU.

AND I SPEAK TO THAT?
GO AHEAD.

I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL, THAT WE HAVE THAT. I WANT TO POINT OUT AS AN EXAMPLE,I'M GOING TO WANDER BUT I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. TO THE MAYOR'S

COMMENTS ABOUT THE ONGOING WORK ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, REPORT DID SAY THAT

IT'S ESSENTIALLY MINOR ONCE THE PROJECT GETS UP AND RLINNING BUT IT'S MATERIAL

AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT AND I CFIECKED WITH COLLEAGUES FROM OTTMR

CITIES THAT WERE TALKING VERY MATERIAL, VERY SIGNIFICANT AMOLTNTS OF STAFF TIME REQUIRED. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNIFICANT HOUSING EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE AND DO THIS FULL-TIME. THAT'S, I DON'T WANT TO PROCEED LINTIL,

BECAUSE WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THOSE AGREEMENTS SO THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT EFFORT. ALSO, THE DATA HAS BEEN CHANGED AND THE COMMITMENTS

HAVE BEEN CIIANGING AND I WANT TO CALL THAT OUT BECAUSE I FEEL IT'S ILLUSTRATIVE OF THE TIME PUT INTO THIS AND WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. ST.

VINCENT, AT ONE POINT, THAT WE WOULD GIVE YOU $IOO,OOO FOR MONITORTNG AND

MANAGING THE PROJECT IN THE SECOND PHASE WAS TAKING DOLLARS OUT SO YOU DON'T GET THE $4OO,OOO IN THE THIRD WAS, OKAY, WE WILL COVER EVERYTHING

INCLUDING YOUR LEGAL COST EXCEPT IF THEY ARE ONGOING IN THE FOURTH, OKAY, WE COVER ONGOING. THIS NEGOTIATION TAKES HOURS. TO WORK THROUGH AND UNDERSTAND. IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE AND WE HAVE, THE MODEL REGULATORY AGREEMENT WE NEED TO COMPLETE IN TFM, SANTA ROSA MODEL IS A 90 PAGE

DOCUMENT AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY, IT'S NOT SOMETHING SOMEONE ELSE CAN NEGOTIATE OR SIGN OFF ON. THE CITY IS IN TOO MUCH FINANCIAL RISK TO SIMPLY HAND THIS OFF COMPLETELY TO SOMEONE ELSE. I WANT TO CALL THAT OUT AND INDICATE WFIY I'M SAYING THAT IT I APPRECIATE THE ASSURANCES. THESE ARE NOT BEEN EASY TO GET TO, THESE HAVE NOT BEEN SNAPPILY DONE.

UNDERSTOOD, THANK YOU. COULD YOU PROCEED?
I WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT. I KNOW THIS IS NOT YOUR INTENTION,BFIUTIsDPN'T WANT TO PAINT A PICTURE WE ARE HAGGLING WITH THE CITY. T'HE REASON WE CAME $2OO,OOO

CAP IS BECAUSE KNOWING WHAT I KNOW FROM THE FIRST HUNKY ROLIND I

PARTICIPATED IN, THAT WAS A MORE THAN REASONABLE AMOLTNT AND I THINK THAT'S

BOLSTERED BY THE REPORT, WHICH SIGNALED OUT LAST NIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS BUT I HEARD YOUR CONCERNS AND I SAID OKAY,. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE WANT YOU TO HAVE REPRESENTATION AND FEEL AGENCY IN THE PROJECT. I WILL MOVE TO OPERATIONAL INCOME SLIDE. THIS IS SOME OF T}IE SOURCES. ONE OF THE CONCERNS

THAT CAME UP IN THE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS IS WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME

FROM AND IS A HANDFUL OF SOURCES, ONE OF WHICH IS HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER IS, WHICH CAN BE GUARANTEED TO A SPECIAL DISPENSATION FROM HUD. WE ACCOMPLISH

THIS IN ROLIND TWO AND WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR THAT FOR THIS PROJECT YET MAINLY BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A PROJECT. PROJECT-BASED VOUCFIERS, THIS IS A GREAT ONE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE COST ARE AT YET BUT IT WAS WELL WORTH THE EXPENSE, BECAUSE WE LAND.

MAYOR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE HAVE TO FIEAR FROM THE

PUBLIC AND WE HAVE READ THIS, CAN WE JUST GO THROUGH THE SLIDES FOR THE PUBLIC TO ASK QUESTIONS ON EACH ONE IF WE HAVE ANY? BECAUSE -- SURE. THAT'S ACTUALLY --
I APPRECIATE IT WE WANT TO GO THROUGH IT.

MAYBE WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS SHIFT IT UP A LITTLE BIT, SO THE CONCEPT WOULD BE

YOU WOULD TELL US THE TITLE OF THE SLIDE AND JUST SUMMARIZETHE OPERATIONAL

INCOME IS NOT YOUR CONCLUSION, WE HAVE SUFFICIENT INCOME AND YOUR UNDERSTATED AND I AM MORE? OKAY. FOR INSTANCE,WOULD HAVE A QUESTION. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN PROCEED THAT WAY. LET'S LOOK AT THE OPERATIONAL INCOME PIECE AND VICE MAYOR ZOLLMAN, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

AND IN THE SLIDES WERE UPDATED, T[M,Y ARE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. I WOULD ruST HIT THE HIGH POINTS AND LEAVE TIME FOR QT]ESTIONS FOR US AND FOR THE PUBLIC.

OKAY. HIT THE HIGH POINTS, PLEASE. THE MECH OKAY, HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHERS,

PROJECT-BASED VOUCHERS, FUNDING WE IIAVEN'T APPLIED BECAUSE THERE IS NO PROJECT, GET PAID PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY, WHICH ST. VINCENT DE PAUL IS WELLVERSED IN, AND HERE'S WHAT I DO WANT TO GET TO. LET'S GET TO THE CONSTRUCTION

BUDGET BREAKDOWN BECAUSE THAT THE COST OF WHY WE SEEM TO BE COMING IN SO MUCH CHEAPER THAN THE COUNTY AVERAGE. LET'S SEE. YES, FIERE WE GO. THIS IS WHAT OUR CONTRACTOR AND ARCHITECT IS CURRENTLY PROJECTING. YOU CAN SEE IT, HERE.

CALL -- TALK SECTION ARGOS, INCLUDING THE 15% CONTINGENCY AS A MENTIONED.

TOTAL PER LTNIT HARD COST, IF THIS COMES OUT TO BE MATERIALLY TRUE, $274,000 PER UNIT AND IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. A COUPLE OF THE REASONS FOR THIS IS THE NUMBER I'M QUOTING DOES NOT INCLUDE SOME OF THE FUNDS ST. VINCENT DePAUL HAS EXPENDED THE COST OF ACQUIRING TTM LAND, SOFT COST, WE SPENT

MONEY ON ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, AND WE'VE DONE GRADING OF THE SITE AND ELECTRICAL UPGRADES ALREADY.IF YOU WERE TO ADD THAT, THAT WOULD CREATE A MORE APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. IT'S NOT AT 5OO+ THOUSAND DOLLARS PER T]NIT BUT IT GETS IT MUCH HIGHER. OTHER FACTORS, ST. VINCENT DEPAUL IS REALLY A CHEAP DEVELOPER. WHEN YOU LOOK AT COL]NTY AVERAGE NUMBERS, DRTVEN BY LARGE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TI{ERE IS STAFF TIME AND OVERHEAD INVOLVED IN THOSE PROJECTS. THOSE COSTS ARE EMBEDDED INTO TTM PER UNIT COST FOR EACH PROJECT.

THE ONLY AMOUNT THAT WE WILL SPEND OF MY SALARY AND OF THE FISCAL MANAGERS SALARY IS HLINDRED AND $1O,OOO. IT'S REALLY DIMINISHED. SIZE MATTERS. wE ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD 408 SQUARE FOOT UNIT. IF WE COULD GO TO THE SIDE-BYSIDE COMPARISON SLIDE, PLEASE, THAT'S IT. THIS WAS SORT OF THE SOURCE OF SOME OF

ADMITTEDLY, MIKE AND VISION BECAUSE WHEN I READ THE, I HAVE TO BE HONEST,IT

GAVE ME PAUSE BECAUSE AT TFIE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU VOTE DOWN TONIGHT, I'LL GO

BACK TO WORK AND COLLECT MY CHRISTMAS BONUS AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND MY LIFE WILL GO ON IT IF I FAIL, TLL PROBABLY NOT WORK FOR ST. VINCENT DEPAUL

ANYMORE BECAUSE I WILL HAVE CAUSED TREMENDOUS FINANCIAL HARDSHIP FOR THEM SO I DID A DEEP DIVE INTO THE PROJECT WE DID. IT WAS A RENOVATION PROJECT SO IT'S NOT A PERFECT COMPARISON TO NEW CONSTRUCTION BUT EVERYTHTN9aWEODIB WAS IDENTICAL TO WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING TO DO, HERE. THE IJNIT SIZES WER.E SIMILAR, 380 SQUARE FEET AND SANTA ROSA. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE I CAN SEE THAT IS

SIGNIFICANT AND MATERIAL IS THAT WE LEFT THE FOUNDATION AND THE WALLS AT THE SANTA ROSA COMMONS AND THOSE WE WOULD BE BUILDING, HERE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT COST PER UNIT, WE CLOSED OUT THE PROJECT AT S242,OOO PER UNIT AND WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED BY OUR ARCHITECT AND GENERAL CONTRACTOR IS $274,OOO IN SEBASTOPOL. IF IT DOES GO HIGHER THAN WE HAVE THE FLINDING TO BE ABLE TO ABSORB THAT AND AVOID ANY KTND OF SIGNIFICANT HARDSHIP FOR THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH IS THE HIGH POINTS FOR YOU.

OKAY. I KNOW WE DO HAVE LINDA HOPKINS ONLINE.

CAN ASK A QUESTION?

I WANT TO MAKE SURE,I THINK WE HAVE LINDA HOPKINS, SO AT SOME POINT, AFTER WE

GET QUESTIONS ANSWERED MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME INFORMATION ON TFM CERTAINTY OF THAT AMOUNT BUT PLEASE.

WE HAD A CONVERSATION TODAY AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SCENARIOS IF IT DID GO THROUGH OR DID NOT AND I JUST, WHEN THE CIry MANAGER GAVE THIS

PRESENTATION AND TALKED ABOUT ENCAMPMENTS AND SUCH, THE QUESTION I HAD,IN ONE OF YOUR REPORTS YOU SAID IT WOULD TURN INTO POSSIBLY A CAR LOT AND I ruST

WANTED, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE KNEW THAT BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE ALTERNATE OPTIONS THAT YOU MENTIONED. IT

WAS SURPRISING, TO ME, BUT I GUESS I AM ASKING YOU, AT THE SAME TIME, RECONFIRMING FOR EVERYONE.

IT DOESN'T SOUND SO, GOSH, SLEAZY, BUT WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IS PUT A CAR LOT

THERE UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING AND THEN USE THE MONEY WE RAISED TO FLIND

OUR PROGRAMMING AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND SUPPORT ONGOING OPERATIONS TO COLLATERALIZE FUTURE LOANS FROM FUTURE HOUSING PROJECTS.

THERE ARE THREE, OR TWO GRANT MONEYMAKERS FOR CITIES, HOTELS, AND CAR DEALERSHIPS. THAT IS WHERE THE TAX DOLLARS ARE.

THANK YOU. YEAH. BUT WE ARE DESPERATE. I DO SEE LINDA HOPKINS WITH HER HAND RAISED. I THINK IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO KNOW, FROM LINDA, WHAT THE NATURE OF THIS COMMITMENT IS, FROM THE COLTNTY. CAN WE INVITE LINDA TO SPEAK? GO AHEAD, IF YOU COULD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. I WOULD BE THERE IN PERSON BUT I'M RECOVERING FROM A VERY SEVERE STOMACH AND I DON'T WISH MY LAST 24 HOURS ON ANYONE'S I FIGURED I WOULD KEEP MY GERMS AT HOME. THERE WERE QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT WHETHER THE $3 MILLION IS A FIRM COMMITMENT AND I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THE $3 MILLION IS A FIRM

COMMITMENT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE DIRECTOR RIVERA AT HER WORD. SHE'S NEVER LET ME DOWN, SHE'S A WOMAN OF

INTEGRITY, AND THIS IS A LETTER THAT IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT WHICH IS VERY

DIFFERENT FROM A CASUAL CONVERSATION OR OFFER IT IT'S A COMMITMENT ON THE

PUBLIC RECORD BEING DISCUSSED AT A COUNCIL MEETING AND A FORMAL STATEMENT

FROM THE DIRECTOR OF MALTH SERVICES WHO OVERSEES A BUDGET, APPROACHING $350 MILLION AT THIS POINT IN TIME. DIRECTOR RIVERA AND HER BUDGET TEAM IN HER

OFFICE WORKED AROLJND THE CLOCK TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO IDENTIFY A

FLINDING SOURCE THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU THE FINANCIAL SECURITY TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD AND I DO RECOGNTZETTIE CHALLENGES THE CITY IS FACING.

I WANTED TO SHARE A TEXT MESSAGE I RECETVED FROM DIRECTOR RIVERA, WHICH

CONFIRMS COMMITMENT DOES NOT REQUIRE BOARD APPROVAL, CONTRACT OR AMMO

YOU WOULD, FOR PAYMENT OF THE FLINDING THAT WE CAN COMMIT THESE FLINDS TO

THIS PROJECT AS IS PERMITTED BY THE FLINDING AWARD FOR THE COUNTY, SHOULD THESE BE NEEDED WE WOULD SECURE THE PAYI\4ENT VIA BOARD ACTION AS APPROPRIATE. I WANT TO ASSURE YOU, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS FLILL FAITH IN TINA RIVERA NEVER SEEN THE BOARD ONCE OVERzuDE THE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON THIS KIND OF RECOMMENDATION. EVEN IF ONE OF MY

COLLEAGUES HAD ANOTHER GREAT PROJECT FOR GREAT IDEA, WE WOULD LOOK FOR

OTHER ALTERNATIVE FLTNDTNG SOURCE BECAUSE WE DO NOT STEAL FROM PETER TO PAY PAUL BECAUSE THAT LEADS TO A QUICK PATH DOWNWARD FOR A POORp&rdi4dWC SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE DO. I WANTED TO SHARE WHY THE COUN-TY CARES ABOUT

THIS BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS LIKE WHY WOULD THE COLINTY DO THIS, WHY WOULD THE COTINTY GIVE MONEY TO THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL.

WE HAVE ANOTHER HOME KEY PROJECT CALLED GEORGE'S HIDEAWAY WHICH BRINGS A SIMILAR NUMBER OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNIT NINE. WE ARE ALSO DEDICATING $3 MILLION OF COUNTY GENERAL FUNDS TO THAT PROJECT. THAT COMES FROM THE MENTAL HEALTH MEASURE. WHILE THE COST TO OVERRLIN TI{E SITUATION IS

LINFORTUNATE, WE SEE IT AS A GREAT DEAL FOR US BECAUSE THE STATE IS PICKING UP THE MAJORITY OF THE TAB. WHEN WE LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS PROJECT, ARE $3

MILLION, IF VACUUMING THAT MANY PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING LTNITS ONLINE, THAT THE HUNDRED AND $4O,OOO PER LINIT TO THE COLINTY WHICH IS A GREAT DEAL AND NOT SOMETHING WE COULD DO IF WE WERE TO GO OUT AND START OUR OWN PROJECT. I WANT TO ADD THAT WHILE I KNOW TECHNICALLY, IT'S 49% OF FOLKS WHO RETURN

DIRECTLY PER TENANTS RATES AS JACK SHARED, WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY WORKED WITH WEST COUNTY COMMLTNIry SERVICES TO PRIORITIZE REGIONAL CANDIDATES FOR HOUSING, RECOGNIZING WE WANT TO KEEP FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. I DO BELIEVE

MOST OF THE FOLKS WHO MOVE IN TO THE SITE WILL BE FROM THE SEBASTOPOL AREA

LIKE I BELIEVE THAT FOR GEORGE'S HIDEAWAY IT'S MOSTLY FOLKS IN THE LOWER RUSSIAN RIVER AREA. WE CANNOT SOLVE OUR HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM WITH THAT

ALLUSIONS TO HOMELESSNESS AND I FEEL THIS IS A CRITICAL STEP FOR CITY OF SEBASTOPOL. ANOTT{ER THING I WANTED TO QUICKLY OFFER, I BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THE HOME KEY PROCESS.I KNOW VERY LITTLE COMPARED TO OUR WONDERFUL FOLKS, JACK MENTIONED TY HILTON. I'D BE HAPPY TO SET UP A MEETING TO PROVIDE

TECHNICAL EXPERTISE FROM OUR DIRECTOR AND FROM TY WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED

IN MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD IF THAT WOULD BE OF ASSISTANCE TO THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL.

THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD REMAIN WITH US FOR A LITTLE BIT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR LINDA HOPKINS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS? NOT SEEING ANY AT THE MOMENT. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR STICKING AROLIND . WHAT QUESTIONS, GO AFIEAD.

I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE FOR FACT BUT I WANTED TO HEAR FROM, AND THE QUESTION I

HAD IS, WE HIRED YOU AS THE EXPERT AND WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERING OPINIONS

AND THOUGHTS ON HOW THIS GOES SO I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU DIRECTLY WHAT YOU THOUGHT, [NC. ABOUT THE NUMBERS, THE REPORTS WE RECEIVED IN TFIE QUALITY OF IT, STRAIGHT FROM YOU.

WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF. THE THINGS THAT I SAW THAT SORT OF ruMPED OFF THE PAGE WAS THE DEVELOPMENT BUDGET SEEMED TO HAVE OMISSIONS AND LOW NUMBERS. YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT, WFMTHER IT'S A $5 MILLION GAP OR ANOTHER NUMBER, I CAN'T SAY WITH ANY CERTAINTY,I'M NOT AN ESTIMATOR. I WORK HALF-TIME FOR BURNING

HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT, NOT REVISITING BURBANK, MY EXPERIENCES WOULD

RELY ON GENERAL CONTRACTORS FOR HARD COST NUMBERS THAT I DID NOTICE IN THE

HOME KEY APPLICATION THERE WAS NOT A LINE ITEM FOR ARCHITECTURE OR ENGINEERING AND NOT A LINE ITEM FOR CITY FEES. THAT GAVE ME PAUSE. BURBANK, WE DO HAVE MORE EXPENSIVE BUDGET BECAUSE WE BUILD IN A DEVELOPERS FEE.

THAT'S HOW WE PAY OURSELVES. JACK MENTIONED TTMY WILL NOT DO THAT. THERE

ARE DIFFERENCES IN THE COMPS I USE, BUT THE HARD COST IS CONTRACTORS AND IT STRUCK ME AS VERY LOW. THAT WAS THE MAIN TAKE AWAY. THE OPERATIONAL EXPENSES BUDGET, I THOUGHT WAS GREAT. THEY WERE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE SEE AND I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED. BEFORE I OPENED UP ANY DOCUMENTS,I WAS

EXPECTING OPERATIONAL EXPENSES BUDGET TO BE TOO LOW BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY

THE PROBLEM WITH PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, INADEQUATE BUDGETS FOR SERVICES AND SECURITY, MAINTENANCE RENTS HIGHER, LOTS OF THINGS RI.IN HIGHER, BUT THAT WAS NOT THE CASE. THE REVENUE SIDE, HOWEVER, JACK AND HIS TEAM DID NOT LINDERSTAND, EVIDENTLY, HOW PROJECT-BASED VOUCHERS WORK. IF YOU GET AN AWARD, WHICH ARE SECTION 8 VOUCHERS, TAKEN OUT OF CIRCULATION AND ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING RATHER THAN A PERSON. I KNOW IT'S CONFUSING, I TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT IN MY REPORT AND I MIGHT HAVE MADE IT MORE CONFUSTNG BUT ANYWAY. IT'S LIKELY, IN THIS CASE, AND YOU CAN BASICALLY COLLECT MARKET REN'Tg8dS}tT NOW, FOR A STUDIO, SUBSIDIZED WITH A VOUCHER, YOU CAN GET $1772 WHICH IS MORE OR LESS THE MARKET. FOR MOST PROJECTS AROUND THE NATION, THEY RELY ON GETTING A

PROJECT BASED VOUCHER BECAUSE YOU NEED THE MARKET RENT TO PAY FOR THE SECURITY AND THE SERVICES. ONCE THAT NUMBER WAS CORRECTED ON T}IE REVENUE SIDE, BECAUSE YOU CAN GET $1772 PER LINIT AND NOT $624 WHICH I THINK IS WHAT JACK HAD, IT MEANS TI{AT IN THE FIRST SEVERAL YEARS, THE PROJECT I{AS SOME BLACK TNK.

ONE LAST NOTE ON THAT, I THINK I'LL PUT IN MY REPORT THAT YEAR FIVE IT STARTS TO TURN INTO A DEFICIT SITUATION AND I NEED TO EXPLAIN WHY SAY THAT. IT CAN

MENTIONED IN THE INDUSTRY, EVERY LENDER, INKS, PUBLIC LENDERS, THEY ALL WANT YOU TO RUN OUT 15 OR 20 OR 30 YEARS ASSUMING THAT THE INCOME GOES UP YEARLY BY 2.5% AND EXPENSES GO UP BY 3.s%.THAT IS HOW THTNGS ARE LINDERWRITTEN. WE DO IT SO MUCH THAT WE DON'T THINK TWICE ABOUT IT. IT'S BECAUSE OF THOSE DIFFERENT ESCALATORS, WHETHER THAT HAPPENS IN YOUR LIFE, PROBABLY NOT. I WOULD NOT READ TOO MUCH INTO THOSE LONG.TERM PROJECTIONS BECAUSE OF THAT CONSERVATIVE LINDERWRITING FROM BANKS AND SO FORTH. ANYWAY, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. ON THE CAPITAL SIDE, YOUR NUMBERS, YOU TALKING BUT JUST GENERAL?
IT TOOK INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF THOSE THINGS. THE REASON I ASK IS WHAT WE HEARD FROM JACK, THEY HAVE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY AND THAT IS TI{E COST TODAY INCLUDED. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU THAT THERE COST WOULD BE LOWER AS A

RESULT BECAUSE TTIEY ALREADY ACQUIRED TFIE LAND AND HAD DONE SOME DRAWINGS AND ENGINEERING?

WHAT WOULD BE MORE CONVENTIONAL IS TO SHARE THE COST BUT PUT THEM IN THE BUDGET SO IT IS A FAIR.

ON THE OPERATION SIDE, THEY UNDERESTIMATED THE RENTAL AMOLTNT THAT THEY CAN EXPECT TO COLLECT? WE TALKED ABOUT THE REPORT, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT THAT AMOUNT THAT ST. VINCENT DePAUL COMMITTED WOULD BE USED TO COVER THE REMAINING. THAT'S WHAT I READ.

THAT WOULD GO INTO AN OPERATING RESERVE FOR THE LONG HAUL.

I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.

I ruST THOUGHT OF IT BECAUSE IT'S A REAL LIFE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE

SOMEONE LIVING ON OUR STREETS RIGHT NOW, HE HAD A VOUCHER TO LIVE, FOR HOUSING. I{E, FOR WHATEVER REASON WAS KICKED OUT OF THAT HOUSING FOR

WHATEVER REASON AND IS NOW LIVING ON OUR STREET AND IS NOT ABLE TO LIFT HIMSELF UP AGAIN AND THIS IS BEEN GOING ON FOR MONTHS. HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT? TI{EY ruST PUT HIM OUT ON THE STREET AND THAT WAS IT. KNOWING THAT THE

REAL LIFE SITUATION WE HAVE, WITH SO MANY PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE VOUCHERS, HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT?
HOW DO WE HANDLE ADDICTION?
FIE WAS PUST{ED OUT OF HIS HOUSING AND IS NOW LIVING ON IT SEBASTOPOL STREETS

AND CAME HERE BECAUSE OF THE COMMONS , WAS NOT A RESIDENT BEFORE, SO I'M

THINKING ABOUT, THAT THE REAL LIFE SITUATION WE ARE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW

SO AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE IN THIS PLACE AND LIVING OFF VOUCHERS AND SUCH,IT ruST OCCURRED TO ME WHILE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS.

I'M GLAD YOU ASKED BECAUSE WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAT THIS WEEK AT THE SANTA ROSA COMMONS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SOME FOLKS. THEY WERE ONE OF

THE PRE-EXISTING TENANTS OF THE SANTA ROSA COMMONS, BUT THEY FAILED TO PAY

RENT FOR THREE YEARS AND WE DID NOT AFFECT THEM BECAUSE THAT'S HOW AGAINST EVICTIONS WE TEND TO BE. NOW WE ARE TIGHTENING UP ON THAT AND WE LEARNED

FROM SOME OF OUR MISTAKES ABOUT NOT BEING TOO GENEROUS, IN THE CASE OF THIS WOMAN, WOULD PUT HER ON A PARTIAL PAYMENT PLAN. I BELIEVE WE DID IT A SECOND TIME TO WORK WITH I{ER TO KEEP HER HOUSING AND THEN AFTER NOT PAYING FOR THAT LONG, WE FINALLY DID A VICTOR. WE DIDN'T JUST DO THAT, WE HATCHED OUT TO

HER FAMILY IN ARIZONA AND I BELIEVE, THIS WEEK OR SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE OFFERED I{ER A PLANE TICKET TO GO BACK TO FAMILY IN ARIZONA. WE DO NOT JUST KICK PEOPLE OUT AND SAY THERE'S THE DOOR, THERE'S TF{E STREET, GOODBYE. WE TRY TO FOLLOW UP AND GIVE THEM A SENSE OF HUMANITY. Page63of 6e I HAD QUESTIONS, WE HAD INFORMATION ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS. YOU OUTLINED SOME MONETARY SOURCES TO COVER THAT POTENTIAL $5 MILLION GAP, ONE OF WHICH IS THE COLTNTY COMMITMENT TO COME UP WITH $3 MILLION IN INSURANCE AND TFIEN TM TALKED ABOUT IT, $2.5 MILLION LINE OF CREDIT. WOULD I GO TO, THEN, WE HAVE CAPITAL BUDGET, YOUR MANAGEMENT APPROACH, THE OPERATING BUDGET.

WHAT REMAINS, FOR ME,IS WHAT WE'VE I{EARD FROM OUR CITY MANAGER WHICH I

THINK BOILS DOWN TO, THAT OUR STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO HANDLE THE INITIAL PROCESS THAT HAS TO DO WITH NEGOTIATING AGREEMENTS WITH ST.

VINCENT DePAUL, LOOKING AT THE AGREEMENT THAT HAS TO BE SIGNED IN ORDER TO FIRM UP HIS FLINDS, AND THEN THE OPERATION OVERSIGHT. WE ARE HEARING VERY CLEARLY THAT FROM OUR CITY MANAGER. IS THERE, DO YOU HAVE SOME SOLUTION FOR THAT? THAT'S A REAL, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT A BUDGET CRISIS, THAT'S REAL. ANY SUGGESTIONS?
MY BEST FOOT FORWARD ON THAT IS TO OFFER STAFF SUPPORT THAT ST. VINCENT DePAUL PAYS FOR. WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE BURDENED BY THIS PROJECT AND WE DON'T WANT THE FOCUS ON THIS. WORKING WITH SANTA ROSA, WE HAVE A HOUSING AUTHORITY. IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES BUT WE COULD PROVIDE SOMEONE WITH

HOUSING AUTHORITY EXPERTISE THAT YOU CAN SELECT THAT WE CAN PAY FOR TO BE

YOUR STANDING IN THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT -- MANAGEMENT ROOM, IF THAT PERSON

IS ILL-EQUIPPED TO DO IT, WE WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH FLINDING TO USE AN ATTORNEY WHO IS WELL-VERSED IN THAT. I DON'T THINK IT WILL COST MORE THAN $1OO,OOO WHICH

IS WHY I HAVE AGREED TO THE BUT IF WHAT MAKES YOU COMFORTABLE IS NO CAP, THEN WE ARE HERE FOR YOU BUT WE ARE FMRE FROM THE PEOPLE WHO CAN BENEFIT.

AND I ruMP IN? I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. AND WATCHING THE CLOCK AND I'M GETTTNG TO MY STRETCH, TOO. WE'VE ASKED AND I'M --

I WANT LESS COMFORTABLE -- ONE LAST QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK THE STAFF QUESTION IS IMPORTANT. LINDA, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT OFFERING TY HILTON OR

MICHELLE WHITMAN, THEIR EXPERTISE, WHEN WE COME BACK FOR DISCUSSION MAYBE

YOU CAN LET US KNOW WHAT LEVEL OF STAFF OFFER YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE US TO SUPPLEMENT OUR LIMITED STAFF AVAILABILITY. LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU COULD, PLEASE. WE WILL WAIT A MINUTE. DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT QUESTION WHILE WE ARE WAITING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO START? I DO. AT THE VERY LEAST I CAN SET UP AN INITIAL MEETING WITH MICHELLE AND TY AND TI{E FOLKS WHO ARE WORKING ON THE HIGHWAY PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO SI{ARE

THEIR EXPERTISE AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SHARE WHAT TFMY MIGHT BE ABLE TO

PROVIDE ON AN ONGOING BASIS THAT I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE WONDERFUL CONTACTS

IN THE STATE GOVERNMENT TO GET THOSE ANSWERS ABOUT TENANTS BEING ABLE TO COME BACK TO THE SITE.

OKAY, THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE?
THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS COMMENT PERIOD.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE TIME TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS. WE ARE OVERSTRETCHED, THE STATE IS $60 BILLION IN TFIE HOLE, SO THIS ABOUT THE COUNry STEPPING IN, SO ON AND SO FORTH, I'M NOT SURE TINA RIVIERA WILL MEET THAT. TFIERE ARE A LOT OF LOOSE NUMBERS HERE. I AM NOT SEEING ANYTHING GOOD COMING OUT OF THIS. I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO GO ON FOR MUCH LONGER, BECAUSE IT'S SO EXPENSTVE. IT HAS NOT GONE WELL. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE WHAT WE HAD BEFORE. FRANKLY, THE SALES TAX SOLTNDS ATTRACTIVE. I JUST BOUGHT A NEW CAR AND I DID NOT REALIZE THATYOU F{AVE TO PAY SEBASTOPOL SALES TAX. THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE. THANK YOU.

I WILL GO TO ZOO}/.. ROBERT?
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I CAN SEE THE TIMER.

GO AHEAD.

THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS ABOUT THIS. I WILL TALK AS FAST AS I CAN, BUT THE ISSUE

IS CLEARLY THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERTISE, AS YOU APPLY CRITICAL THINKING AND UNCOVERING WHAT WAS MISSED WHEN YOU AGREED TO GO FORWARD. TIIEY CAN CERTAINLY MANAGE THIS IF THAT IS WHAT CITY COLINCIL WANTS, BUTTFgtrFtrB}4PROP THE BALL ON THE BUDGET, YOU DON'T HAVE FTINDING FOR NEXT YEAR, II' YOU DON"I

HAVE THAT REVENUE, YOU COULD HAVE A REAL MESS BECAUSE YOU'VE ARTIE GOT A DEFICIT BURNING CASH LIKE CRAZY. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT START TO GET DELAYED EVEN MORE, BUT CERTAINLY SOMEONE IN THE CITY KNOWS.

CONSULTANTS ARE NOT THE ANSWER. I USE CONSULTANTS ALL-TIME TO THE PROJECT OF

THIS SCOPE I WOULD HAVE A PERSON TO MANAGE THAT BECAUSE IT'S SO COMPLICATED AND THERE ARE SO MANY ELEMENTS. THE CONSULTANT IS NOT GOING TO TAKE THAT ON. WE HAVE IOOO OTHER THINGS, WHAT IS TI{E CONTRACT, WHAT COUNTS DUE TO BREACH OF CONTRACT AND THE STATE IS GOING TO PUT, THAT'S THE .5 TIMES MORE.

THAT HALF YOUR OPERATING BUDGET. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN DO THIS. WE CAN'T. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING THEM, I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. STAFF, CAN YOU UNMUTE?
HELLO. THANK YOU. THIS IS MELISSA HANLEY, VICE CHAIR SPEAKING AS A CITIZEN AND GETTING FEEDBACK. WE FIEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT TODAY AND DESIGN REVIEW

BOARD AND VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT BECAUSE HE FELT THE APPLICATION WAS INCOMPLETE. WE FELT LIKE THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH DETAIL TO

APPROVE THIS PROJECT, SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HEARING THE BUDGET CONCERNS BECAUSE THE ANSWER TO SEVERAL OF OUR QUESTIONS, THIS IS A PENDING BUDGET. TFIE FACT THAT THERE IS A BUDGET AND A CONTRACTOR, THAT THIS WAS PLACED AT ISSUE.

IT MAKES ME FEEL VERY CONCERNED. I OFFERED MY TIME, TO GET THAT SUBMISSION TO BE APPROPRIATE, SO I'M SURPRISED BY THAT. THIS IS CONTENTIOUS AND NOT REALLY SOLIDIFIED AND IT'S BEING PRESENTED AS IF ITIS AND IT WAS NOT, THIS APP IS RLTNNING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT, BACK TO IN CHAMBERS IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS. WE ARE ON VIDEO SO IF YOU COULD GO TO THE PODruM. THAT'S OKAY.

HELLO,I LIVE HERE, I WISH WE COULD GO BACK IN TIME BEFORE RISE AND SHINE AND ALL OF THAT AND THE MONEY THAT WENT OUT FOR THAT. I WAS SHOCKED THIS YEAR IS OVER AND EVERYBODY IS LOOKING ON THIS. I BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN BETTER SHAPE. I JUST DON'T, I WOULD LIKE TO SCRAP THIS PROJECT. I L]NDERSTAND THAT WE ARE SCREWED. IT'S TERzuBLE. IT WAS A TSUNAMI OF COMPASSION THAT CAUSED THIS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU. LINDA, CAN YOU UNMUTE? GO AHEAD.

THAT LAST SPEAKER, THAT WAS GREAT. A SALAMI OF COMPASSION THAT COST AS DEARLY, THAT VERY ACCURATE. HERE I AM ONCE AGAIN TELLING YOU THAT I LIVE THREE PROPERTIES FROM RISE AND SHINE. I HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW MANY OF THESE PEOPLE, MANY OF THEM. I'VE HEARD THEIR STORIES AND IT'S ALL VERY INTERESTING TO

ME, BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN THE EFFECTS THEY'VE HAD ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE RETAILERS. AT MARY'S PIZZA PARLOR, THEY CLOSED AFTER THEIR SPACE IS BROKEN INTO. ANYWAY, THERE BACK DOOR WAS BROKEN INTO AND NOW THEY HAVE BARS, AND THERE'S JUST DRUG PARAPHERNALIA AROLIND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT DOES NOT WORK, JACK. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU TO TALK WITH YOU BUT ANYWAY,

ALL OF THE GOODWILL AND THE MONEY AND THUS, THIS PARADIGM, THIS MODEL DOES NOT WORK. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING, THEY ARE NOT GOOD CANDIDATES FOR TENANTS.

YOU HAVE 25 SECONDS.

THEY ARE NOT CONVENTIONAL HOUSING. I AM LOOKING AT THAT CAR DEALERSHIP AND IT'S PRETTY ATTRACTIVE ALTERNATIVE.

THANK YOU. IF THERE'S ANYONE, GOING BACK TO ZOOM. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER? I CAN. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR EXTENDING THE DISCUSSION BEYOND 10:30. I KNOW IT'S LATE FOR EVERYBODY, BUT TI{E REAL QUESTION IS, DOES THE COLTNCIL UNDERSTAND ITS RISK, ITS FUTURE RISK IN APPROVING THIS? I ASK, WHEN WAS THE CONSTRUCTION BUDGET ESTIMATED. I WORK IN PROJECTS THAT INVOLVE LARGE

CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT EXPERIENCE EXTREME INFLATION AND IT DOES NOT WANE, IT CONTINUES. THIS GREATLY IMPACTS THE ABILITY TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT

AND WHAT IS THE RISK TO THE CITY IN SIGNING ITS AGREEMENT A YEAR AGO, TO suPPoRT THIS PROJECT, TO FULFILL THE CONSTRUCTION COST? I JUST W€0dnfiB6F THE COLINCIL HAS CONSIDERED THAT. AS FAR AS FTINDS, COMING FROM THE COUNTY AND OTHERS, I HEAR WHEN THEY SAY IT'S A SHORT, I WORK FOR A PUBLIC AGENCY. NOTHING

IS ASSURED UNTIL THAT PUBLIC GOVERNING BODY APPROVES THOSE FUNDS, SO I THINK IT'S FOOLISH TO COLINT ON FUNDS THAT ARE NOT YET AUTHOzuZED BY A PUBLIC AGENCY. AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NECESSARY BUT I THINK THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE RISK, FOR CITY OF SEBASTOPOL AND ITS HASTE TO SUPPORT PROJECTS.

ANYHOW, I REALLY WANT THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER RISKS GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS. KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE, PLEASE? TFIE MAC I AM LTNMUTE IT.

CAN YOU SEE TF{E TIMER?
I CAN, THANK YOU. COIINCIL, YOU HAVE A FIDUCIARY DUTY, WHICH SHOWED THAT SEBASTOPOL IS ON A CRASH COURSE TO BANKRUPTCY. IT'S A SOCIAL LIABILITY, WITH SIGNIFICANT RISK. THIS WILL REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT STAFF TIME WHICH THE COLTNTY DOES NOT HAVE. THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT BECAUSE THE FUTURE IS

LTNKNOWN, JUST LIKE A JALOPY SAID THAT WHEN RISE AND SHINE CLOSED, PEOPLE WOULD ruST LEAVE AS WE KNOW THEY DID NOT LEAVE. THEY ARE ON OUR STREETS.

LINDA HOPKINS, YOU FLTNDED RISE AND SHINE, PLEASE GET THE RVUS AND GENERATORS OFF OUR STREETS. SUPERVISOR HOPKINS, STOP FUNDING THESE PROJECTS IN SEBASTOPOL. JACK TIBBETTS CAN SAY ANYTHING HE WANTS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY HE DOES NOT LIVE IN PAY TAXES IN SEBASTOPOL, HE ruST NEEDS TO PUSH IT THROUGH TO KEEP HIS JOB. THE PRESS DEMOCRAT WROTE AN IN-DEPTH REPORT ABOUT ST. VINCENT NEGLIGENT MANAGEMENT OF THE GOLD COIN MOTEL. LOOK IT UP, READ IT.

WE CAN SEE THERE ARE TERRIBLE MANAGERS. LOOK AT THE HORIZON SHINE SITE, WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL LIVING ON IT? SEBASTOPOL CITIZENS WILL BE LEFT HOLDING THE BAG ruST LIKE RISE AND SHINE. JACK TIBBETTS COULD LEAVE HIS JOB AND MOVE. THEY WILL

BE DEPENDENT ON WHO MANAGES IT, HOW THEY WAS FOND, AND THE MONEY THEY HAVE TO SPEND. IT'S LINKNOWABLE.

THANK YOU. I'LL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS IF THERE'S ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. VANESSA, CAN YOU UNMUTE, PLEASE?
CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION, THE SLIDESHOW WAS TNFORMATIVE. I LIVE CLOSE TO THE SITE, A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET AND I WILL SAY, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IT'S BEEN TUMULTUOUS FOR US. WE HAVE NEGATIVE EXPERIENCES. WE WERE EXCITED IT WAS CLOSING AND THAT A BRICK-AND-MORTAR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT WAS COMING UP. WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS AND IT

SOLINDS LIKE THERE ARE MOVING PARTS THAT NEED TO BE ORGANIZED BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS GO UP. THERE ARE SEVERAL RVS NOW ON GRAVENSTEIN HIGHWAY NORTH . WILL THOSE BE GIVEN PRIORITY AT THE 49%? MY CONCERN IS IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S

TOO MUCH FOR ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ABSORB, AND THEN WE HAVE AN ENCAMPMENT BY IN FRONT. THAT'S A CONCERN, THE RESPONSE I RECEIVED IS THAT TI{E CAMPERS ARE

WORKING TO FIND HOUSING IN OUR LINDERSTANDING WAS THAT WAS WHAT WAS GOING

ON FOR TWO YEARS, THAT THEY WERE RECEIVING WRAPAROUND SERVICES TO TRANSITION INTO HOUSING. THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION REGARDING THE ENCAMPMENT SO I POSE THIS IS A QUESTION AND INQUIRY INTO WHERE THAT STANDS.

THANK YOU. THE MAC THANK YOU. AGAIN, I'LL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS. BACK TO ZOOM, IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NINE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

THANK YOU . I'M LOOKING AT THE CLOCK, IT'S 1 1 :17 AND WE NEED TO BE OUT BY I I:30.

WE ARE NOW BACK FOR DISCUSSION.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY MY COMMENTS.

I THINK, JACK TIBBETTS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, MARK, ANYTHING FINAL TO SAY? ANYTHING FINAL TO OFFER? WE WILL GET OUR CITY MANAGER. ANYTHING FINAL TO }IAVE?
I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.

WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION AND WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK.

I ruST WANTED TO SAY THIS IS A HOME KEY PROJECT. MY BUSINESS IS IN THAT PARKING LOT AND I CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT I HAVE, IFJOSM#.&TAND

THE IMPORTANCE OF HOUSING AND A GREAT IMPACT TO HAVE SUCH POPULATIONS

CLOSE TO HOUSING AND BUSINESS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, MORE IMPORTANTLY, I BELIEVE I NEED TO LISTEN TO THE CITY MANAGER. WE HIRED HIM, WE VOTED FOR HIM. I

BELIEVE THAT HE HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO BRING US OUT OF THIS CATASTROPHIC FINANCIAL SITUATION. BEING ELECTED TO REPRESENT SEBASTOPOL AND PROTECT SEBASTOPOL AND WHEN I CAMPAIGNED IS ABOUT GETTING BACK TO BASIS -. BASICS.

WATER AND SEWER IS IN TROUBLE, I'M ON FIRE AD HOC, WE HAD SO MANY ISSUES GOING

ON AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HOUSING,I ENJOYED MY

CONVERSATION WITH JACK, I CANNOT VOTE TO LEVERAGE OUR CITY ANYMORE AT THIS POINT AND I MADE A STATEMENT TO SOMEONE, I'M ALSO A REAL ESTATE AGENT. WHEN

WE LOOK AT MORTGAGES, PEOPLE TRYING TO FIND COSIGNERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE

TO AFFORD THINGS, I WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW LUDICROUS IS IT THAT A CITY IN SUCH

FINANCIAL STRAITS WOULD CONSIDER A -- WOULD BE CONSIDERED A VIABLE PARTNER TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A HIGH DOLLAR AMOLINT, WHEN WE ARE IN SO MUCH TROUBLE.

NO ONE WOULD EVER LEND ANY INDIVIDUAL MONEY IF THEY ARE IN THE SAME SITUATION. GOOD LORD, OUR STATE IS WILLING TO SEE US AS AN EQUAL PARTNER AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A PROJECT, POSSIBLY FOR THAT MONEY. I CANNOT WRAP MY HEAD ABOUT IT. I NEED HIM TO RESPECT WITH THE CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDED AND I

DON'T WANT HIS TIME TAKEN AWAY FROM THESE PROJECTS WE HAVE THAT WE NEED TO

TAKE CARE OF FOR CURRENT RESIDENCE, NOT FUTURE, BUT CURRENT RESIDENCE SO I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. I ruST CAN'T.

TIIANK YOU.

I'M NOT SURE WHO IS FIRST.

I DON'T -- GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU. WE AGREED TO THIS PROJECT BEFORE WE HIRED OUR NEW CITY MANAGER

AND I THINK THAT WE DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE COSIGNING ON THIS PROJECT AND THAT I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT TTIAT ST. VINCENT DePAUL, IN CREATING CONCESSIONS FOR THE CITY. WHEN WE HIRED OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD TIAVE HIS BACK. THE SITUATION OUR CITY IS IN RIGHT NOW, ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT

FRONTS, THAT WE ARE LOSING OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR, LOSING PUBLIC WORKS

DIRECTORY AND LOSING OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS BEEN WITH US, AND BASICALLY IT'S A

BAD TIME FOR SEBASTOPOL TO TAKE A PROJECT LIKE THIS ON , WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY COMPLEXITIES AND PROBLEMS. I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WE WOULD WELCOME,IF YOU

REALLY ARE IS AREAS ABOUT PUTTING THE USED CAR LOT IN THERE, I THINK THE CITY

WOULD WELCOME THAT, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND I AM REALLY SORRY, BECAUSE THIS WAS, THIS IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO WALK AWAY FROM.

IT'S A REALLY HARD DECISION. THANK YOU, JACK FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND EFFORT AND

I WANT TO THANK OUR CITY MANAGER AND WE CAN EYES -- RECOGNIZE THIS IS A TOUGH SPOT WE ARE IN. I WOULD RECOMMEND TO OPPOSE.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON ? GO ATMAD.

I TRY TO BE CHIVALROUS, BUT ORDER IS IMPORTANT. I ALSO SECOND COUNCILMEMBER McLEWIS AND THE COMMENTS THAT I WISH THINGS WERE DIFFERENT, I TRULY DO.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE EFFORTS YOU PUT FORTH, THANK YOU , MR. CITY MANAGER

FOR PUTTING UP WITH THIS, WHAT SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF LAST-MINUTE PIECES TO FILL IN. HAVING SERVED ON THAT, I REALLY JUST AM NOT. ALONG THOSE LINES, I'M

SURPRISED ANYONE WOULD ASK US TO DO THIS BECAUSE THERE WERE OTHER CITIES

THAT WERE MORE FINANCIALLY SOLID THAN US AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS, SO I AM STRUCK BY THE FACT TIIAT ANYONE WOULD ASK ANY MORE OF US. WE ARE DOING MORE FOR THE LTNSHELTERED AND ANYONE IN THE COLINTY. I AM UPSET BY IT, OBVIOUSLY, BY THE TONE. THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING. NUMBER TWO,I HAVE AN ISSUE ON CONFLICT OF INTEREST. SORRY, I AM A LAWYER AND FIAVING A MOTHER PARTY

PAY FOR NEXT IT THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO RELY ON, I JUST, IT DOES NOT ADD UP FOR ME. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT TAKING ON MORE RISK FOR THE CITY WITHOUT AT PENDING DEBT. IN MY MIND, THEY ARE ALSO EQUALLY WORRIED. WHY WOULD A CITY IN FINANCIAL TROUBLE BE A SITUATION LIKE THIS? I DO NOT WANT OUR PRIORITIES TO BE ruGGLED AND I DO NOT WANT TO APPRECIATE THEM STATING, THIS IS WHAT I'M WORKING ON, AS IS WHAT I'M WORTH ON. IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND EVERYTHING HE PUTS OUT,I AGREE. THEY WOULDJdAd/EfTP REruGGLE, I DO NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN SO I DO NOT REPORT THIS.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?

IT'S ROUGH WHEN YOU GO FORWARD AND THREE PEOPLE ARE AGAINST IT BUT I WOULD

GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT WHEN I GOT ON COTINCIL, I WAS PART OF THE PARK VILLAGE

WITH THE HOMELESS APPLICANTS AND WE DO NOT KNOW HOW WE WOULD FIND THAT, EITHER. YET, WE DID. GRANTS COME THROUGH. I FEEL LIKE THE JUGGLING IS HAPPENING,

BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FMLP US WITH PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE SFIELTER, WHICH I DO SUPPORT. IT SUPPOSED TO BE A TEMPORARY FIX. SEMI-COMMLINIry, AND

SUPPORT THEY NEEDED TO MOVE ON, THEY'VE INVESTED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE SHELTER. IT SUCKS THAT OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION IS WHERE IT IS. WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON. I AM IN SUPPORT OF THAT, I FEEL LIKE, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO PUT OUR FAITH IN IT. I WOULD PUT MY FAITH IN IT. I WILL BE, EVEN ON THE SHORT SIDE OF THE STICK, WE DONE A LOT. IT'S A TOUGH BALANCE, YOU DON'T JUST HAND THEM A FISH, YOU GIVE THEM A FISHING POLE. I CAN'T HELP IT. THAT'S WHO I AM. THAT'S MY COMMENT.

I WILL WEIGH IN. YOU THINK IT'S HARD BEING THE FOURTH, SHE WAS MAYOR LAST YEAR, SHE KNOWS WHAT THAT'S LIKE. I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. I WAS ON THE

BUDGET COMMITTEE LAST YEAR AND I AM FULLY AWARE OF OUR CITY MANAGERS MANY BURDENS AND I AM A BIG SUPPORTER OF OUR CITY MANAGER. I LINDERSTAND OUR

FINANCIAL CHALLENGES IN PROBABLY, A LOT MORE DEEPLY THAN A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM. I LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND TFIERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT CALL OUT TO ME. THERE ARE NUMBER OF THEM BUT FIRST, THIS IS AN

AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT AND SECOND, THIS IS A FINANCIALLY RESPONSE A BOWL, RELIABLE PARTNER, SUPPORTED BY THE COLINTY. WE ALL CONNECTED. WITH ALL OF THE MONEY, WITH $3 MILLION, I AM CONFIDENT THAT THE CAPITAL EXPENSES WOULD

BE COVERED, OPERATIONS WOULD BE COVERED, IT'S COMPELLING TO ME THAT THE

CRITICISM OF THE OPERATIONS BUDGET WAS THAT THE UNDERVALUED TFM AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY WOULD EXPECT TO RECEIVE FROM THEIR RENTALS. THIS IS

COMPELLING THAT AS RECOGNTZED, HE WAS IMPRESSED AT THE APPROACH THAT

ADDRESSES A LOT OF THE CONCERNS WE'VE HEARD FROM HOW THIS OPERATION WILL BE MANAGED. THIS IS ST. VINCENT DePAUL. FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS,I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD NOT BE A FINANCIAL BURDEN ON THE T}IE AND I SAY THAT, I

HAVE TO EMPHASIZE, OUT OF DEEP EXPERTISE AND KNOWLEDGE, WITH CONCERN ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR BUDGET. I HAVE TO CALL OUT THE FACT THAT, THERE ARE FIVE I.V.S, LEGALLY OCCUPYING SPACES. THEY ARE READY TO MOVE TO ST. VINCENT DCPAUL

COMMONS AS A BRIDGING OPPORTUNITY, THEY OFFER PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOI]SING. THAT'S FIVE. WHAT HAPPENS WITH THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY AT THE

FAIRGROUNDS, LOOKING TO GO OVER, TO MOVE IN TO GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS BUT IF WE VOTE THIS DOWN, THEY ARE BACK ON TI{E STREETS. I HAVE TO SAY, A LOT OF

PEOPLE HAVE CONNECTIONS TO SEBASTOPOL , SO THAT QUALIFIED THEM, ADDITIONAL TIME BEFORE THAT. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO AND WHAT WILL THAT DO IN TERMS OF ENCAMPMENT POTENTIAL? THAT IS MEANINGFUL. IT'S IMPORTANT. I HOPEFULLY HAVE A FEW MINUTES TO CALL FOR QUESTIONS.

THAT IS IT. WE ARE --
OH, YOU GUYS, I'M REALLY SORRY.

YOU CAN CALL FOR THE QUESTION BUT WE HAVE TO WRAP IT UP.

OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE,I THINK WE HAVE TO CALL THE VOTE, HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM THAT IS BEFORE US TO SUPPORT THE ST.

VINCENT DePAUL COMMONS PROJECT,I WOULD ADD CAVEAT ON THE IDENTIFICATION OF STAFF TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. THAT WOULD BE MY CONDITION.

I WILL SECOND THAT.

SO MOVED, AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE EMOTION -- THE MOTION FOR THE

CONSTRUCTION OPERATION OF THE GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE AN INDICATION OF A STAFF MEMBER APPROVED FOR THE PROJECT.

THE MOTION DOES NOT PASS, 3.2IN FAVOR OF THE OPPOSITION.

THANK YOU FOR STAYING TO THE AGENDA. APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. WE CAN CLOSE THE MEETING? TI.IANK YOU.

FOR FOLLOW-UP WITH TI{E STATE, I WANT TO BE CLEAR. I FEEL LIKE I NE&&r0ffiAKE A PROACTIVE STEP TO TELL TI{E MAYOR WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE PROJECT.

CAN WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION? WE ARE DONE WITH THE MEETING. I'M SORRY RECORDING STOPPED. [Event Concluded]