Sebastopol City Council
July 15, 2025

CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA
Meeting of Tuesday, July 15, 2025

CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
MINUTES FOR REGULAR MEETING OF JULY 15, 2025
As Approved by the City Council at their regular meeting of August 5, 2025 COUNCIL PROTOCOLS FOR MEETING:

This in person and virtual/remote meeting is compliant with the Governor’s Executive Order allowing for a deviation of teleconference rules required by the Brown Act. Traditional Brown Act and AB 2449 requirements can be utilized for all City Council meetings as long as required notice and posting is conducted per the Brown Act.

Please Note the presiding member of the legislative body conducting a meeting or their designee may remove, or cause the removal of, an individual for disrupting the meeting. “Disrupting” means engaging in behavior during a meeting of a legislative body that actually disrupts, disturbs, impedes, or renders infeasible the orderly conduct of the meeting.

PUBLIC COMMENT
Due to the length of recent City Council Meetings, it is strongly encouraged that written comments be submitted to the City Council by sending them by email to: [email protected] with either General Public Comment Written in the Subject Line or the Specific Agenda Item Number or Title Written in the Subject Line. Emails are distributed to the City Council as well as posted to the City Council meeting as public comment. Public Comment questions may be directed to City staff for a response at a later time.

CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Zollman called the meeting to order 6:02 pm ROLL CALL:

Present: Mayor Stephen Zollman
Councilmember Phill Carter
Councilmember Neysa Hinton
Councilmember Sandra Maurer

Absent: Vice Mayor McLewis
Staff: Interim City Manager Mary Gourley
City Attorney Alex Mog
Administrative Services Director Kwong
Building Official Brown
City Engineer/Public Works Director Rincon Ibarra
Police Chief McDonagh
SALUTE TO THE FLAG : Mayor Zollman led the salute to the flag.

REMOTE PARTICIPATION UNDER AB 2449 (IF NEEDED): To consider and take action on any request from a Council Member to participate in a meeting remotely due to Just Cause or Emergency Circumstances pursuant to AB 2449 (Government Code Section 549539(f)). Assembly Bill 2302 (2024) (“AB 2302”) revises rules for when members of local legislative bodies may participate in meetings remotely. Specifically, it amends the number of meetings that may be attended remotely for just cause and under emergency City Council Meeting Packet for Meeting of:

circumstances and clarifies the definition of the term “meeting,” for purposes of remote attendance. AB 2302 caps the number of remote meetings a member can attend each year based on the frequency of a legislative body’s meetings: Five meetings per year for those meeting twice a month. There was no request.

PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS/INTRODUCTIONS: None
STATEMENTS OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST: Conflicts of interest may arise in situations where a public official deliberating towards a decision, has an actual or potential financial interest in the matter before the Council. In accordance with state law, an actual conflict of interest is one that would be to the private financial benefit of a public official, a relative or a business with which the Councilmember is associated. A potential conflict of interest is one that could be to the private financial benefit of a Councilmember, a relative or a business with which the Councilmember is associated. A Councilmember must publicly announce potential and actual conflicts of interest, and, in the case of actual conflict of interest, must refrain from participating in debate on the issue or from voting on the issue and must remove themselves from the dais. Mayor Zollman stated he would be recusing himself from Item Number 10 as he sits on the Board.

City staff announced the following:
• Item Number 5 will not be heard tonight; and will be rescheduled to the August 5, 2025 City Council Meeting
• Item Number 11 withdrawn; applicant has withdrawn the application and informed staff they will be moving their event to Ives Park and will be obtaining a special event permit.

PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA (FIRST COMMENT PERIOD): Up to Twenty (20) Minute Time Limit (Two Minutes for up to ten speakers). Additional public comment will be held at the end of the discussion and action items for up to an additional twenty (20) minutes. Mayor has discretion to allow for additional time beyond the 20 minutes allocated for public comment dependent upon the subject matter or number of speakers.

Process for calling on Speakers: Mayor or designee shall ask for public comment as follows: Speakers to be called on in an alternate manner (One speaker in person to be called on first; then one speaker remote to be called on second with additional speakers to be called on in the same manner) based upon the time limit.

The following member(s) of the public spoke during public comment.

Peter Alexander
Kate
Greg/Porchfest
Jason
Arthur
Oliver
Eric
Kyle
Rick
Robert
Diedre
Mary
Jeff
Georges
Jay
Myriah
Karen
Dorina
Harold
Anne
Elizabeth
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CONSENT CALENDAR: The consent agenda consists of items that are routine in nature and do not require additional discussion by the City Council or have been reviewed by the City Council previously. These items may be approved by one motion without discussion unless a member of the City Council requests that the item be taken off the consent calendar.

The Mayor will read aloud the title of each consent item (either full agenda title or a simplified version of the agenda title), and ask if a Councilmember wishes to remove one or more items from the consent calendar; and then open public comment to the members of the public in attendance. At this time, a member of the public may speak for up to two (2) minutes on the entire consent calendar and request at that time that an item or items removed for discussion.

If an item or items are removed from the consent calendar, the item shall be placed at the end of the regular agenda items unless otherwise determined by the Mayor. Council Members may comment on Consent Calendar items or ask for minor clarifications without the need for pulling the item for separate consideration. Items requiring deliberation should be pulled for separate consideration and shall be placed at the end of the regular agenda items unless otherwise determined by the Mayor.

Mayor Zollman read the consent calendar.

Mayor Zollman asked if any Councilmember wanted to remove a consent calendar item. There was none.

Mayor Zollman opened for Public Comment(s). The following member(s) of the public spoke during public comment:

Steve Pierce
Kyle
Kate
Mayor Zollman called for a motion.

MOTION:

Councilmember Hinton moved and Councilmember Maurer seconded the motion to approve consent calendar items 1, 2, 3, and 4.

Mayor Zollman called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Maurer and Mayor Zollman Noes: None

Absent: Vice Mayor McLewis
Abstain: None

1. Approval of City Council Meeting Minutes of July 1, 2025 Responsible Department: Interim City Manager
Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with approval of this item.

City Council Action: Approved City Council Meeting Minutes of July 1, 2025 Minute Order Number: 2025-226

2. Approval of City Council inviting representatives from the City’s recognized labor unions to participate in a collaborative discussion with City Council in a public City Council meeting to explore strategies for growing and supporting entry-level positions within the organization, including the strategic use of outsourcing to optimize staffing resources.

Requestor: Mayor Zollman/Responsible Department: Interim City Manager/Human Resources Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with approval of this item other.

City Council Action: Approved inviting representatives from the City’s recognized labor unions to participate in a collaborative discussion with City Council in a public City Council meeting to explore strategies for growing and supporting entry-level positions within the organization, including the strategic use of outsourcing to optimize staffing resources.

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Minute Order Number: 2025-227

3. Receipt of report on the SCTCA Funding Program Cycle 2 Priority List of Projects for FY 2025-26 through 2030-31, and authorize staff to move forward with grant applications to the SCTCA. SCTCA released its Call for Projects and has asked project sponsors to submit their top 5 priority projects. The projects must be in the 2025 SCTCA Comprehensive Transportation Plan. Grant applications are due August 8, 2025.

Responsible Department: City Engineer/Public Works Director Fiscal Impact: Approval of this action would not have a fiscal impact in Fiscal Year 2025-26.

However, if a grant is awarded, there would be a fiscal impact on Special Reserve Funds starting Fiscal Year 2026-27 for grant(s) awarded in the SCTCA Cycle Funding Program. If awarded, a future funding agreement with the SCTCA, committing to the local match would be brought to Council for approval.

City Council Action: Approved Receipt of report on the SCTCA Funding Program Cycle 2 Priority List of Projects for FY 2025-26 through 2030-31, and authorize staff to move forward with grant applications to the SCTCA. SCTCA released its Call for Projects and has asked project sponsors to submit their top 5 priority projects. The projects must be in the 2025 SCTCA Comprehensive Transportation Plan. Grant applications are due August 8, 2025.

Minute Order Number: 2025-228

4. Adoption of Resolution Authorizing the Collection by CDTFA of ½-Cent Sales Tax Approved at the November 5, 2024 Municipal Election and Authorizing the City Manager to Execute Related Agreements.

Due to an ambiguity in State law, the City previously waived collection of ¼-cent of the sales tax authorized by Measure U. A recent change in state law allows the City to collect the full ½-cent.

Responsible Department: City Attorney
Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact for this item. Based on the change in state law, the adopted budget assumes implementation of the full ½-cent tax. An agreement between the City and County ensures the City will receive revenue equivalent to the full ½-cent tax until such time as the full tax is implemented by CDTFA.

City Council Action: Approved Resolution Authorizing the Collection by CDTFA of ½-Cent Sales Tax Approved at the November 5, 2024 Municipal Election and Authorizing the City Manager to Execute Related Agreements. Due to an ambiguity in State law, the City previously waived collection of ¼-cent of the sales tax authorized by Measure U. A recent change in state law allows the City to collect the full ½-cent.

Minute Order Number: 2025-229
Resolution Number: 6687-2025
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS/PRESENTATIONS: Informational Items or Presentations are items that are informational only and do not require action by the City Council. Presentations shall be scheduled as necessary for the promotion of an event or service or general information items to the Council and should be limited to ten (10) minutes total in length of item (total length includes questions of Council to presenter and public comment).

5. Informational Presentation: The “Hotel Sebastopol” development Update. This is a requirement for the applicant to return annually for update on the status of the project.

Responsible Department: Community Development Director
Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with receipt of this item.

City Council Action: None Taken. Due to scheduling issues, item was continued to August 5, 2025.

Reference Order Number: 2025-230

6. Informational Presentation: Presentation from the Chamber of Commerce and Downtown Businesses on the Main Street America Program.

Requestor: Mayor Zollman/Responsible Department: Community Development Director Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with receipt of this item.

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Mayor Zollman presented the agenda item and introduced Andrea Caron and Myriah Volk who provided information.

Mayor Zollman asked for questions of the presenter or staff. Council asked various questions.

Mayor Zollman opened the public comment. The following member(s) of the public provided public comment:

Robert
Kate
Oliver
Bill
Michael
Linda
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Direction:

There was no formal action as this is an agenda item. The Council provided the following direction to staff:

To return this item to a future City Council meeting for discussion of membership.

City Council Action: . The Council provided the following direction to staff: To return this item to a future City Council meeting for discussion of membership.

Reference Order Number: 2025-231
PUBLIC HEARING(s): NONE
REGULAR CALENDAR AGENDA ITEMS (DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION):

7. ITEM CONTINUED FROM JULY 1, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING Sebastopol Library Staffing and Facilities Ad Hoc Committee Report Out. The item tonight is to receive the Report from the Ad Hoc Committee and discuss the recommended actions in the report. Recommendations:
 Receipt of Report from current Ad Hoc Committee
 Dissolution of Current Ad Hoc Committee
 Creation of New Committee Named: Committee for Building the Commons (Period of Committee: July 1, 2025 through June 30, 2026)
 Approval of Scope of Work of Committee
 Committee Composition and Appointment to be Returned to a future Council meeting for consideration of approval
Requestor: Mayor Zollman; Council Liaison to Library
Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with receipt and approval of this item; however staff time will be required.

Mayor Zollman presented the agenda item recommending the Council hear the presentation; ask questions, open the public comment, and receive the Report from the Ad Hoc Committee and discuss the recommended actions in the report. Recommendations:
• Receipt of Report from current Ad Hoc Committee
• Dissolution of Current Ad Hoc Committee
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• Creation of New Committee Named: Committee for Building the Commons (Period of Committee: July 1, 2025 through June 30, 2026)
• Approval of Scope of Work of Committee
• Committee Composition and Appointment to be Returned to a future Council meeting for consideration of approval
Mayor Zollman asked for questions of presenter or staff. Council asked various questions. There were none.

Mayor Zollman opened the public comment. The following member(s) of the public provided public comment:

Fred
Kyle
Oliver
Robert
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Direction:

The Council discussed the scope of work and staff time allocated for this committee.

MOTION:

Councilmember Carter moved and Mayor Zollman seconded the motion to approve the following:
• Receipt of Report from current Ad Hoc Committee
• Dissolution of Current Ad Hoc Committee
• Creation of New Committee Named: Committee for Building the Commons (Period of Committee: July 1, 2025 through June 30, 2026)
• Approval of Scope of Work of Committee/Broad Scope:
• Committee Composition and Appointment to be Returned to a future Council meeting for consideration of approval
Mayor Zollman called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Maurer and Mayor Zollman Noes: None

Absent: Vice Mayor McLewis
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved the following:
• Receipt of Report from current Ad Hoc Committee
• Dissolution of Current Ad Hoc Committee
• Creation of New Committee Named: Committee for Building the Commons (Period of Committee: July 1, 2025 through June 30, 2026)
• Approval of Scope of Work of Committee/Broad Scope:
• Committee Composition and Appointment to be Returned to a future Council meeting for consideration of approval
Minute Order Number: 2025-232

8. ITEM CONTINUED FROM JULY 1, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING City Council Meeting Packet for Meeting of:

Discussion of Amendments to City Council Protocols – Agenda Review Committee Protocol (Authority to Cancel City Council Meetings)
Requestor: Councilmember Hinton
Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with approval of this item.

Councilmember Hinton presented the agenda item recommending the Council hear the presentation; ask questions, open the public comment, and approve the following: (Authority to Cancel City Council Meetings) Mayor Zollman asked for questions of the presenter or staff. Council asked various questions.

Mayor Zollman opened the public comment. The following member(s) of the public provided public comment:

Kyle
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Direction:

Council continued discussion of protocols.

Council consensus to direct staff to make amendments and return to future council meeting on consent calendar.

Any meeting of the Council may be cancelled in advance by a majority vote of the City Council at a regularly scheduled City Council Meeting. The Mayor may cancel a meeting in the case of an emergency, when a majority of members have confirmed in writing their unavailability to attend a meeting, or when there is not a quorum at the start of the meeting. Cancelled meetings will be noted on the agenda and posted for the public.

Calling of Closed Session language

When the following motions are made and seconded, the Presiding Officer must immediately call for a vote of the body without debate on the motion. Motions carry with the designated vote requirement:

City Council Action: No formal vote; Council consensus.

Minute Order Number: 2025-233

9. Approval of Economic Gardening Program Event. The City of Sebastopol is proposing to host an Economic Gardening Program Event aimed at supporting the growth of home grown businesses.

Requestor: Councilmember Carter/Responsible Department: Community Development Director Fiscal Impact: $3000 has been approved in the FY 25 26 City Budget for this Event.

Councilmember Carter presented the agenda item recommending the Council approve the Economic Gardening Program Event and authorize staff to proceed with coordination and implementation.

Mayor Zollman asked for questions of the presenter or staff. Council asked various questions.

Mayor Zollman opened the public comment. The following member(s) of the public provided public comment:

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Robert
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Direction:

The Council discussed length of workshop and support for Chamber support.

MOTION:

Councilmember Carter moved and Mayor Zollman seconded the motion to approve the following: the Economic Gardening Program Event and authorize staff to proceed with coordination and implementation.

Mayor Zollman called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Maurer and Mayor Zollman Noes: None

Absent: Vice Mayor McLewis
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved the Economic Gardening Program Event and authorize staff to proceed with coordination and implementation.

Minute Order Number: 2025-234
Mayor Zollman recused himself for item Number 10 and departed the meeting room for this agenda item.

10. Consideration of Approval of Fee Waiver for Living Peace Wall Induction Ceremony for Special Events Permit Fees. Waiver of Special Event Permit application fee ($150), daily use fee ($250), amplified sound fee ($50); Total Fees = $450.

Responsible Department: City Engineer/Public Works Director Fiscal Impact: Fee Waiver Total: $450.00
Public Works Director/City Engineer Rincon Ibarra presented the agenda item recommending the Council approve the fee Waiver for Living Peace Wall Induction Ceremony for Special Events Permit Fees. Waiver of Special Event Permit application fee ($150), daily use fee ($250), amplified sound fee ($50); Total Fees = $450.

Councilmember Hinton asked for questions of the presenter or staff. Council asked various questions.

Councilmember Hinton opened the public comment. The following member(s) of the public provided public comment:

City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Direction:

No further discussion.

MOTION:

Councilmember Carter moved and Councilmember Maurer seconded the motion to approve the following:
approve the fee Waiver for Living Peace Wall Induction Ceremony for Special Events Permit Fees. Waiver of Special Event Permit application fee ($150), daily use fee ($250), amplified sound fee ($50); Total Fees = $450.

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Councilmember Hinton called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, and Maurer
Noes: None

Absent: Vice Mayor McLewis and Mayor Zollman
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved the following: approve the fee Waiver for Living Peace Wall Induction Ceremony for Special Events Permit Fees. Waiver of Special Event Permit application fee ($150), daily use fee ($250), amplified sound fee ($50); Total Fees = $450.

Minute Order Number: 2025-235
Mayor Zollman returned to the dais.

11. Consideration of Approval of Special Event Permit for Sebastopol Porchfest 2025. This request is to consider approval of a Special Event Permit for Sebastopol Porchfest 2025, a part of national events held in neighborhoods across the country. The event is proposed to be held at various locations listed below:

Responsible Department: City Engineer/Public Works Director Fiscal Impact: $3,048.00
City Council Action: None Taken. None Required. Applicant withdrew application Reference Order Number: 2025-236
ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA: Two minutes per speaker for up to twenty (20) minutes total for public comments but can be reduced at Mayor’s discretion depending upon the number of speakers or Mayor has discretion to allow for additional time beyond the 20 minutes allocated for public comment dependent upon the subject matter or number of speakers.

COUNCILMEMBER(S) REQUESTS FOR FUTURE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS CITY COUNCIL/CITY STAFF REPORTS/COMMUNICATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/FUTURE MEETINGS:

12. City Manager and/or City Clerk Reports: (This will be either verbal reports at the meeting, or written reports provided at or prior to the meeting)
a. Departmental Reports (Recap of June 2025)
City Council Action: None Required. Informational Only.

Reference Order Number: 2025-237

13. City Council Reports/Committee/Sub-Committee Meeting Reports: (Reports by Mayor/City Councilmembers Regarding Various Agency Meetings/Committee Meetings/Sub-Committee Meeting /Conferences Attended and Possible Direction to its Representatives (If Needed) on Pending issues before such Boards. ((This will be either verbal reports at the meeting, or written reports provided at or prior to the meeting)

14. Council Communications Received (Information/Meetings/Correspondence Received from the General Public to Councilmembers)
CLOSED SESSION: NONE

ADJOURNMENT OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING
July 15, 2025 City Council Regular Meeting will be adjourned to the next Regular City Council Meeting of Tuesday, August 5, 2025 at 6:00 pm, Sebastopol Youth Annex, 425 Morris Street, Sebastopol, CA.

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Mayor Zollman adjourned the meeting at 8:52 pm.

Respectfully submitted,
Mary C. Gourley
Assistant City Manager/City Clerk
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City Council Meeting - July 15, 2025

REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF
POLICE TIME AND INVOLVEMENT.

SEBASTOPOL 7500

RESIDENTS AND

BUSINESS OWNERS CANNOT
GO

WITHOUT POLICE SERVICES

BECAUSE

OUR OFFICERS ARE BUSY WITH
30 RESIDENTS AT HOPKINS COMMONS.

COUNCIL MUST FUND ADDITIONAL
OFFICERS.

IF YOU DO NOT FUND ADDITIONAL

OFFICERS, YOU SHOULD

CONSIDER

CONTRACTING OUR

POLICE SERVICES

TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS
THEY
ARE FULLY FUNDED.

THIS ALSO MAKES SENSE AS A

MAJORITY OF CALLS AND

BOOKING

FEES ARE FROM HOPKINS

COMMONS
WHICH IS A COUNTY PROJECT.

I THINK OUR CHIEF IS DOING
A

GREAT JOB, BUT HE CAN'T
KEEP

SEBASTOPOL SAFE IF HE IS
UNDERSTAFFED.

NOR CRIME EQUALS MORE

COPS, AND
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IS THERE IS NO WAY AROUND THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KATE, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

HI, MY NAME IS GREG, I GO
BY
THE NICKNAME SINNY.

IT'S MY CHILDHOOD NICKNAME.

I'VE OKLAHOMA OPENED THE HOT MIC
FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS.

THERE I DISCOVERED MY

CALLING,

SUPPORTING LOCAL MUSIC
AND

HELPING THE

UNDERSERVED

COMMUNITIES FULFILL
THEIR
ARTISTIC DREAMS.

LAST SPRING I FOUND A WAY TO
TAP

INTO BOTH MY PASSION AND
BUILD

COMMUNITY BY CREATING PORCH FEST
SEBASTOPOL.

THERE HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS
OF

PORCH FESTS ACROSS THE NATION
IN

TOWNS JUST LIKE OURS, AND
I

THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA
TO
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HAVE ONE
HERE.

LAST YEAR WE CREATED A FREE

ONE-DAY EVENT THAT ALLOWED
LOCAL

MUSIC TO BE SHOWCASED BY
ACTS

NOT USUALLY INVITED TO
BIG
STAGES IN FOR-PROFIT VENUES.

THIS I LEARNED IS A

VALUABLE

IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE ARTS
ECOSYSTEM.

SINCE THAT DAY LAST SEPTEMBER,
I
RECEIVED OVER 100 COMMENTS
OF

ENCOURAGEMENT TO DO THIS
AGAIN.

THIS LOW-KEY FAMILY-FRIENDLY

NATURE OF THE EVENT
REALLY

STRUCK A CHORD, UNINTENDED,
WITH

THE NEIGHBORS AND

THE COMMUNITY
AT LARGE.

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW
LOCAL

BUSINESSES WHO ARE

ACTIVELY

SUPPORTING US AND WE INTEND
TO

PLUG LOCAL BUSINESSES
AND

RESTAURANTS TO INCREASE

REVENUE

FOR EVERYONE IN THESE UNCERTAIN
ECONOMIC TIMES.

WE'RE HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE
THAT
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SEBASTOPOL CENTER FOR ARTS

APPROACHESED US THIS SPRING
AND

WANTED TO BE INVOLVED WITH
OUR

EFFORTS

AND AGREED TO HAVE SEB

ARTS AS THE HEADQUARTERS THIS
YEAR.

THIS ALLOWS MORE FOOT

TRAFFIC

AND HELPS THEM GAIN
MORE
RECOGNITION AND PRESENCE.

OUR GOAL HAS ALWAYS
BEEN
COMMUNITY BUILDING.

AND IN THOSE EFFORTS, HAVE I

SOME IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS
TO
MAKE AS OF TODAY.

DISHEARTENING AS IT MAY BE, OUR

PLAN IS TO HOST PORCH FEST IN

SEB ARTS ONLY AND NOT

ON HIGH

STREET AND WITH THE CITY'S
ASSISTANCE.

WE WILL NOT HOST PORCH FEST ON

HIGH STREET DUE TO OUR DESIRE TO

GAIN CONSENSUS AND BUILD

COMMUNITY, NOT TO DIVIDE THE
COMMUNITY.

AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN IS TO MOVE

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PORCH FEST AROUND TO

NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WANTED
AND

FOR ACOUSTIC SMALLER BLOCK
PARTY
FASHION.

WE INTEND TO SURVEY THE

ATTENDEES AND FIND OUT WHERE

THEY'RE COMING FROM AND WHERE WE

CAN MOVE PORCH FEST
IN THE
NUMBERS OF YEAR.

WE HAVE OUR FIRST MIXERS --

THAT'S TWO
MINUTES.

THANK
YOU.

WE HOPE THE BOARD WILL
SEE

OUR EFFORTS

AND METICULOUS

PLANNING AS --
THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

AND YES, SORRY, IF WE CAN

KEEP THE REACTIONS DOWN,
THAT

WOULD BE GREAT IN ORDER TO KEEP

EXERCISING DECORUM HERE IN THE
CHAMBERS.

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MARY?

THANK YOU,
MAYOR.

I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC ITEM

FOR NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA,
AND

IT DOES INCLUDE PORCH FEST AS
IT

WAS WITHDRAWN, PLEASE RAISE
YOUR
HAND VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL

COME BACK
INTO CHAMBERS.

IF
THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS?
JASON?
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MY NAME IS JASON TARMINO AND I'M

YOUR LOCAL AFFAIRS
REPRESENTATIVE FOR PG&E.

IN UTILITY PARLANCE, MY JOB IS

TO INTERACT WITH

ELECTED

OFFICIALS AND STAFF MEMBERS
AND
TO

BE YOUR SINGLE POINT OF

CONTACT SO THAT IF YOU HAVE A

QUESTION, I CAN EITHER KNOW
THE
ANSWER OR FIND THE RIGHT PERSON.

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TONIGHT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION

PG&E'S GREENHOUSE GAS

EMISSIONS,

IT'S KIND OF MY MISSION
THIS

YEAR IS TO TELL EVERYBODY
ABOUT
THAT.

SO WE HAVE BEEN SINCE
2022 AT
LEAST 95% GREENHOUSE GAS-FREE
ON
OUR ELECTRICITY.

AND THE WAY THAT WORKS IS THAT
50% OF OUR ELECTRICITY COMES

FROM THE DIABLO CANYON NUCLEAR
POWER PLANT.

AND THEN SOLAR, WIND, HYDRO,

SOME BIOMASS, HYDRO, SOME

GEOTHERMAL, AND THEN WE
ALSO
HAVE ABOUT 1600 MEGAWATTS

BATTERY STORAGE WITH UTAH
1300
COMING ONLINE SOON BY 2026.

ALL THIS WORKS OUT TO AT LEAST
95% GREENHOUSE GASFREE

ELECTRICITY FOR ALL OF OUR
CUSTOMERS.

AND THAT'S ALL I CAME TO SAY.

IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS,
PLEASE
GET IN TOUCH WITH ME.

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WE CAN SET UP MEETINGS,

AND I'M

HERE TO HELP YOU AND THE
COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

IF THERE IS ANYONE

ON ZOOM THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC

COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE

AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND
VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL

COME BACK

INTO CHAMBERS, IF THERE
IS

ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A
PUBLIC COMMENT.

GOOD EVENING.

ARTHUR GEORGE, PAST CHAIR
OF
WEST COUNTY HOMELESS ADVOCATES.

I'M SORRY, IF WE CAN

KIND OF

KEEP THE VOICES IN THE BACK ROOM
DOWN.

THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU.

AGAIN, ARTHUR GEORGE, PAST
CHAIR

WEST COUNTY HOMELESS

ADVOCATES

AND AD HOC GROUP THAT
WAS

ADDRESSING ISSUES AS TO
HOMELESSNESS.

AND I REMAIN ACTIVIST
TO

HOMELESS ISSUES HERE IN THE
CITY.

OUR PAST CHIEFS KEVIN

KILGORE

AND RON NELSON SHOWED REMARKABLE

WISDOM, COMPASSION, RESTRAINT

AND WHEN NECESSARY

ENFORCEMENT

WHEN DEALING WITH HOMELESS
ISSUES.

THE CURRENT CHIEF APPEARS TO
BE

DOING THE SAME, AS REPORTED
IN

THE SEBASTOPOL TIMES, HE
VERY

RECENTLY WORKED A NIGHT SHIFT

ENCOUNTERING THE UNHOUSED.

MARIA RICO, THE FORMER

OUTREACH

COORDINATOR THROUGH WEST
COUNTY

COMMUNITY SERVICES ACHIEVES

REMARKABLE RESULTS IN PLACEMENT
OF UNHOUSED PEOPLE.

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IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT
AS

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON
HAS

OBSERVED IN THE TIMES

NEWSPAPER,

WITH RICO'S DEPARTURE,
THE

MEASURABLE RESULTS APPEAR
TO

HAVE DECLINED, EVEN

AS WEST

COUNTY HAD BEEN THE GOLD
STANDARD PROVIDER.

WEST COUNTY NOW HAS SUGGESTED
TRANSFERRING ITS $40,000 TO
THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT MAY BE A GOOD INVESTMENT

FOR INCREASED POLICE

TRAINING,

ESPECIALLY ALONG THE LINES
OF

WHAT HAD BEEN THE BOOTS

PROGRAM

FOR ENGAGING WITH

UNHOUSED
PEOPLE WHO HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS.

BUT THE POLICE FUNCTION
IS

RADICALLY DIFFERENT FROM THAT
OF
A SOCIAL OR CASEWORKER.

THE COUNCIL SHOULD NOT EXPECT
THAT $40,000 IS GOING TO TURN

THE DEPARTMENT INTO SOCIAL

WORKER, EVEN AS COMPASSION
AND
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PLACEMENT MAY BECOME MORE A PART
OF THE POLICE ROLE.

IF SOCIAL WORK IS NEEDED, DO
NOT

EXPECT THAT TRANSFERRING
MONEY

TO A MORE COMPASSIONATE
ALONE
WILL ACCOMPLISH THAT.

I WOULD DEFER TO THE GUIDANCE
OF

THE NEW CHIEF IN DETERMINING
NEW

DIRECTIONS,

NOT JUST MOVING
MONEY AROUND.

AS HE DEVELOPS NEW PLANS

DRAWING

ON THE EXPERIENCE OF
WEST
COUNTY.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 10
SECONDS.

WILL NO LONGER FULFILL THE
TASK.

THANK YOU.

NO PUBLIC COMMENT?
NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

OLIVER, CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
UNMUTED.

CAN YOU
HEAR ME?

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I CAN.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?

YES, JUST PICKING UP ON
WHAT

GEORGE JUST SAID,

I WAS AT THE

LAST MEETING AND I AGREE, THE

POLICE SHOULD DEFINITELY GET THE
FUNDING.

I KNOW ALL ABOUT CAHOOTS
PROGRAMS.

I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT
IDEA.

CAN'T DO MUCH WITH $40,000
IN

TERMS OF THE CAHOOTS PROGRAM,
BUT THAT'S STILL GOOD.

THE BIGGER POINT IS THE
COUNTY

SHOULD BE PAYING
THIS.

THIS IS A COUNTY PROJECT WHERE

WE HAVE MULTIPLE COUNTY PROJECTS
IN THE CITY.

WHERE IS THE COUNTY MONEY?

THE COUNTY SHOULD BE PAYING
FOR

ALL THE SOCIAL WORK, AND
THEY

SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE PAYING FOR

ALL THE BUREAUCRACY TO
KEEP

PEOPLE WITHIN THEIR

BUREAUCRATIC
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SYSTEMS.

WHY SHOULD THE CITY
OF

SEBASTOPOL BE PAYING THE
STAFF

FROM WCCS TO DO ENDLESS

PAPERWORK, KEEP

PEOPLE IN THE
COUNTY AND THE STATE SYSTEM?

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY KIND
OF
SENSE.

A LOT OF THE PEOPLE -- FOR

EXAMPLE, ELDERLY COMMONS AND

ELSEWHERE FROM SEBASTOPOL,
SOME

OF THEM AREN'T EVEN FROM SONOMA
COUNTY.

SO DEFINITELY THIS NEEDS TO
HAPPEN.

I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE, YOU

KNOW, WE'RE JUST DEBATING WHERE
THE
$40,000 SHOULD BE SPENT AND

HOW IT CAN BE BEST SPENT TO
HELP
THE HOMELESS.

BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS

MOST OF

THE PROBLEMS ARE

ACTUALLY

CREATED BY THE COUNTY, AND
THE

COUNTY SHOULD BE

BASICALLY

PULLING THEIR WEIGHT HERE AND

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ACTUALLY MAKING A MUCH
MORE

DILIGENT EFFORT TO A, MAKE
THE

BUREAUCRACY SIMPLER, AND B,
DO
THE BUREAUCRACY THEMSELVES.

I DON'T SEE ANY REASON

WHY OUR

POLICE SHOULD TAKE ON THAT
ADDITIONAL WORK LOAD AS WELL.

SO WHERE IS HOPKINS?

I THINK SHE NEEDS TO STEP UP AND
FAST.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, OLIVER, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO

CHAMBERS, IF THERE IS ANYONE IN
CHAMBERS.

HELLO, COUNCIL,

MEMBERS OF

THE PUBLIC, MY NAME IS ERIC AND
I LIVE AT 7153 MAPLE AVENUE AND
HAVE SINCE ABOUT 1998.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE BEHALF

OF AND IN SUPPORT OF

SEBASTOPOL
PORCH FEST.

I JOINED THE BOARD OF
THE
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ORGANIZATION AS A WAY TO
CREATE

A VEHICLE FOR PORCH FEST, NOT

JUST ON HIGH STREET,
BUT
THROUGHOUT OUR TOWN.

WE BELIEVE, A LOT OF US

BELIEVE

VERY, VERY WHOLEHEARTEDLY
THAT

SEBASTOPOL PORCHFEST CAN BE
A

VERY VIBRANT PART OF
WHAT
SEBASTOPOL OFFERS.

IT FILLS A UNIQUE NICHE THAT
IS
NOT FILLED IN OTHER AREAS.

HAVING NEIGHBORS

WORKING

TOGETHER TO CREATE AN EVENT THAT

SUPPORTS LOCAL MUSICIANS IS
POWERFUL.

AND IT CREATES AND BUILDS
COMMUNITY.

UNFORTUNATELY, TODAY WE

DECIDED

TO CHANGE OUR PLANS BECAUSE
WE

HAVE NOT DONE THE ENGAGEMENTENGAGEMENT

COMMUNITY WORK THAT WE NEED
TO

DO IN ORDER TO CREATE A

POSITIVE
EXPERIENCE.

AND I REALLY WANT TO REACH
OUT

TO -- TO OUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE
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CURBED ABOUT THIS EVENT

TO TALK

WITH US, TO PARTICIPATE IN
IT

WITH US, TO JOIN WITH US SO

THATTHAT

CAN WORK TOGETHER AND

CORRECT

THE WAY THAT WE'VE BEEN SORT OF
ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THIS.

THE IDEA OF BRINGING
THIS

TONIGHT AS A CONTENTIOUS
ITEM

WHERE WE HAD TO HAVE A
BOARD

VOTE AND MAKE A DECISION WHERE

THERE WERE WINNERS AND LOSERS IS

NOT WHAT SEBASTOPOL

PORCHFEST
SHOULD BE ABOUT.

IT SHOULD BE ABOUT WINWIN, AND

I'M COMMITTED WITH

TALKING WITH

ANY OF MY NEIGHBORS ABOUT HOW
WE

CAN KEEP MOVING THAT

FORWARD

INTO THE FUTURE, NOT JUST IN OUR

NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THROUGHOUT THE
ENTIRE CITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ERIC, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

AGAIN, IF WE CAN KEEP
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REACTIONS DOWN SO WE
CAN

FACILITATE THE REST OF
THE
DISCUSSIONS HERE.

THANK YOU,
MARY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES, I CAN.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES, I CAN.

GREAT.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

SO I THINK JUST IN

REFLECTING

ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS

TONIGHT,

SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT

WERE IN WRITTEN FORM THAT
I'M

SURE WON'T BE DISCUSSED
BY
COUNCIL AT ALL TONIGHT.

THOSE ARE THINGS BY

CITY MAYOR

AND REALLY DON'T GET BROUGHT
TO

THE TABLE AT
ALL.

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AND ALSO SOME OF THE

INVOLVEMENT

AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AND
THE

REGIONAL LEVEL, I'M REALLY

HOPING THE COUNCIL CAN

REFLECT

ON WHAT RESPONSIBILITY THEY

BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO OUR CITY
TO
ENGAGE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

YOU KNOW, I'M HEARING ABOUT THIS

SMART TRAIN INITIATIVE THAT'S

GOING TO BE COMING ON TO THE
BALLOT.

AND I REFLECT ON HOW WE
DON'T

HAVE A SMART CONNECTOR
COMING
OUT TO SEBASTOPOL.

AND SO WHAT KIND OF ADVOCACY
IS

THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL
DOING

WITH THE COUNTY LEVEL, WITH
OUR

TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY
TO

ACTUALLY BRING
PUBLIC

TRANSPORTATION TO SEBASTOPOL,
RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT ISSUES

WITH HOUSING IN
THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL.

WHAT IS THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE

HAVE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL TO BE
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INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF LOW

INCOME, HIGH DENSITY

HOUSING
THAT WE HAVE IN OUR URBAN CORE.

WHAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY
THAT

WE HAVE AS A CITY TO BE WORKING

REGULARLY WITH OUR COUNTY

OFFICIALS, AND REALLY,

HONESTLY,

BRINGING THAT STUFF BACK TO THE

CITY AND COMMUNICATING THAT

THROUGH OUTREACH,

COMMUNICATING

THAT OUT THROUGH PUBLIC

CHANNELS

THE RELATIONSHIP BUILDING
THAT

WE ARE DOING WITH
THE COUNTY.

BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT, RIGHT.

AND MAYBE YOU'RE GOING TO
GO

AHEAD AND PUT IT IN A
ORAL

REPORT THAT YOU SPEAK OUT AT
10:00 AT NIGHT.

BUT WE'RE NOT GOING HEAR IT.

AND IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR TO
ME

THAT YOU'RE BUILDING

MOMENTUM IN

THOSE CONNECTIONS WHEN
YOU'RE

NOT ADVOCATING FOR THE CITY
AT

THE COUNTY LEVEL AND YOU'RE
NOT
WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.

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SO LET'S HEAR MORE OF THAT SO

THAT WE

CAN BUILD IN SPACES

WHERE WE DO FIND GOOD ALIGNMENT

AND PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR

COUNTY,

BECAUSE IT'S NOT CLEAR
TO ME

THAT WE'RE GETTING THE

RESOURCES

THAT WE NEED FROM THE COUNTY
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ASKING.

THANK YOU, KYLE, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT, HE WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE IS ANYONE IN

CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO

MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT?
YES.

HI.

I'M SO SORRY TO CONTINUALLY

PROMOTE PORCHFEST, AND I KNOW

YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD A

LOT ABOUT
IT ALREADY, SO I APOLOGIZE.

I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE.

OKAY.

SO MY NAME IS RICK AND I

LIVE IN
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THE CORNER OF MAPLE AND
HIGH

STREET AND I'M ONE OF

THE HOSTS
OF STAGES IN PORCHFEST.

I WANT TO STRONGLY SPEAK
IN

SUPPORT OF PORCHFEST AND
THE

ENERGY AND DYNAMISM THAT
IT
BRINGS TO OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S A LOCALLY PRODUCED

ORGANIC

EVENT PUT TOGETHER BY
LOCAL
PEOPLE

IN A VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD
IN SEBASTOPOL.

IT'S ONE OF THE TYPES OF
EVENTS

THAT DEFINES OUR COMMUNITY
AND

MAKES IT THE SPECIAL PLACE THAT
IT REALLY IS.

THIS EVENT TAKES PLACE
ON
SATURDAY FROM 12 NOON UNTIL
6:00
P.M., BUT DOES NOT AFFECT PEOPLE
GOING TO WORK.

IT'S DURING THE WEEK, AND
IT
ENDS WELL BEFORE THE EVENING.

THE ORGANIZERS HAVE ASSEMBLED A

LARGE CREW OF VOLUNTEERS, ALL
LOCAL.

THEY WOULD ADDRESS MANY OF
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ISSUES WHICH HELP KEEP THE
EVENT
SAFE AND RESPECTFUL.

THEY HAVE REACHED
OUT

EXTENSIVELY THROUGHOUT THE

NEIGHBORHOOD TO SOLICIT OPINIONS

AND TO IMPROVE EVERY ASPECT OF

THE EVENT.

THEY'RE WORKING HARD

HAND IN

HAND WITH THE CITY AND THE

POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE
SURE
THAT EVERYONE IS IMPORTANT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE WHO
ARE

FEELING -- THERE ARE

THOSE WHO

FEEL THAT HOSTING AN EVENT IN
A

NEIGHBORHOOD IS INAPPROPRIATE
OR
INVASIVE.

AND WHILE MANY OF THESE CONCERNS

ARE VALID TO SOME DEGREE, THE

OVERALL BENEFIT TO THE TOWN,
ITS

COMMUNITY, AND MANY OF
THE

NEIGHBORS WEIGHS HEAVILY IN THE
POSITIVE.

THE ORGANIZERS HAVE

BENT OVER

BACKWARDS TO MITIGATE ALL THESE

CONCERNS, INCLUDING OFFERS
TO
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POST VOLUNTEERS AT

SITES, REDUCE

NOISE LEVELS, BLOCK OFF AND
PATROL INTERSECTIONS.

RICK, YOU HAVE ABOUT 15
SECONDS LEFT.

OKAY, GOTCHA.

THIS EVENT IS EXACTLY THE
KIND

OF EVENT THAT
DEFINES OUR TOWN.

IT'S LOCAL IN NEARLY EVERY
WAY

AND RUN WITH INTEGRITY AND
JOY.

I WONDER IF THE CITY COUNCIL
CAN

BE A PARTNER FOR PORCHFEST
IN
THE FUTURE.

IT'S A GREAT EVENT.

WE SHOULD DEFINITELY PARTNER
UP.

RICK, THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

THANKS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

OKAY.

NEXT, I WOULD GO BACK OUT TO
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ZOOM.

TRY TO KEEP THE PHYSICAL

REACTIONS DOWN SO WE CAN
MOVE
THROUGH AND KEEP DECORUM.

THANK YOU.

ROBERT, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?
I CAN.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

GO
AHEAD.

I POSTED A PUBLIC COMMENT.

I DON'T THINK

IT'S RELATED TO
THIS MEETING.

BUT IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO

SOMETHING THAT THE

MAYOR SAID

LAST WEEK ABOUT THE FACT THAT

THE CITY REALLY DOESN'T DO
MUCH
FOR
THE HOMELESS.

AND HE WAS LITTLE
BIT

EMBARRASSED WHEN HE

WITH THE
OTHER MAYORS.

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AND I HOPE I DIDN'T MISQUOTE
YOU.

I WANT PROMPTED ME TO WONDER HOW

MUCH ARE WE SPENDING ON THE
HOMELESS.

I DID SOME ESTIMATES.

THE POLICE STAFF COSTS
AND
ESTIMATING 50%, TAKING
PUBLIC

WORKS COSTS AND ESTIMATING
MAYBE

AN FTE OR TWO THAT SPEND OR THE

DAY OR THE MORNINGS

CHECKING ON

THE HOMELESS AND CLEANING UP

AROUND THE CITY BUILDINGS,
WHICH
WE'VE HEARD THAT THEY DO.

AT ONE TIME DANTE SAID 60%
OF

HIS TEAM'S TIME WERE SPENT ON

HOMELESS AND HOMELESS-RELATED
ISSUES.

I TOOK THE LOWER NUMBER.

BUT YOU GO THROUGH THAT AND

ASSUME THAT STAFF

IS SPENDING

SOME TIME ON THE NEW

GRAVENSTEEN

COMMONS AS WELL AS

ELDERBERRY

AND THE ISSUES THAT HAVE RISEN
THERE.

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IT TURNS OUT THAT WE SPEND MAYBE
$1300 OR $1400 PER CITIZEN
IN
OUR BUDGET FOR THE 7800
PEOPLE
THAT LIVE HERE.

AND WE SPEND SOMETHING LIKE
$20,000 FOR EVERY

HOMELESS

PERSON WHEN YOU ADD UP THOSE
COSTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY
APPRECIATES THAT.

IT'S A HUGE COST TO THE CITY
IN

THE WORLD WHERE HOUSING FIRST IS

SUPPOSED TO SOLVE THAT,

BECAUSE

YOU PUT THEM INTO HOUSING,
AND

THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY
ALL
THESE COSTS.

WE HAVE NO OPTIONS ON THAT

BECAUSE WE DON'T

CONTROL WHO
GOES WHERE.

THE COUNTY
DOES.

AND I THINK AT THIS

POINT, WE

NEED TO HAVE A STRONGER

ADVOCACY, AS MENTIONED BY
A

COUPLE OF PEOPLE, WITH
THE

COUNTY IN TERMS OF

THEY SHOULD
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BE PAYING
FOR THIS.

WE SHOULDN'T BE PAYING FOR THIS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

AND NEXT I'LL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

BUT BEFORE I DO, CAN I JUST
GET

A SHOW OF HANDS ABOUT HOW
MANY

MORE SPEAKERS WOULD LIKE
TO

SPEAK DURING PUBLIC

COMMENT FOR
ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA?

SINCE IT WAS PORCHFEST, I'M
AT
THE MAX FOR THE 20 SPEAKERS.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO
GIVE

ANOTHER TEN MINUTES --

ANOTHER TEN MINUTES IF
THAT'S

OKAY WITH MY FELLOW
COUNCILMEMBERS.

I MEAN, I WOULD BE IN
FAVOR

OF LETTING EVERYONE

SPEAK SINCE

WE CANCELED THE ITEM WITH
NO

NOTICE AND THEY SHOWED UP
TODAY,

THAT THEY'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON
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AN

ITEM THAT WE WOULD HAVE HAD NO
TIME LIMIT ON.

OKAY.

THOUGHTS?
UNLIMITED?

WE DO RESERVE AND WE AGREED ON
THE 40 MINUTES TOTAL.

SO DO WE GO BEYOND 40 MINUTES?
I'M LOOKING TO MY LEFT.

CAN I JUST GET A SHOW
OF

HANDS ONE MORE
TIME?
I'M SORRY.

ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR,
FIVE.

SO IT WOULD BE ABOUT TEN MORE
MINUTES.

OKAY, TEN MORE MINUTES
THEN,
THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO NEXT I'LL COME INTO CHAMBERS.

I NEVER KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO
FEEL WHEN I GET UP HERE.

WOO.

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WASTE MY SECONDS.

AM I WASTING MY SECONDS TO
BREATHE, HUH.

MY NAME IS DEIRDRA DOOLING.

AND JENNIFER SHOWED UP.

I STAY AT ELDERBERRY COMMONS.

I CAN'T BELIEVE

I'M EMOTIONAL
TODAY.

I THOUGHT I WAS PRETTY COOL.

I
STAY THERE.

I DON'T LIVE THERE.

AS I CAME OVER HERE, I REWROTE

MY TWO MINUTES

LIKE PROBABLY
FIVE TIMES, I HAVE IT ON PAPER.

AND IT'S LIKE -- I CALL
HER
FENTANYL LADY.

I KNOW THAT MIGHT SOUND HARSH
TO

THE BLEEDING HEARTS, BUT I
HAVE
TO LIVE WITH IT.

AND I'VE OFFERED PEOPLE TO COME
TO STAY IN MY SPACE, YOU KNOW.

COME LIVE NEXT TO ELDERBERRY.

COME LIVE IN ELDERBERRY AND

EXPERIENCE WHAT I HAVE TO
EXPERIENCE.

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JUST PULLED SOMEBODY LAST NIGHT.

AND AS I

LEFT, THE SECURITY
GUARD WAS THERE.

AND LIKE PEOPLE WERE RUNNING
THROUGH THE BACK GATE.

THEY DIDN'T COME OUT TO CHECK.

SOMEBODY'S GOT SOME GOOD
STUFF
THIS WEEK.

LOOKING FOR SOME GOOD DRUGS,
RIGHT.

SO ANY WAY, I'M BEING A LITTLE
SARCASTIC.

I'M TRYING JUST LIKE HOW
MANY
MORE SECONDS.

OH, THE TIMER.

I GOT 55 SECONDS.

AND THERE IS SOME CHANGES THERE.

THEY NOW WILL SERVE YOU
COFFEE
AND MUFFINS ONCE A WEEK.

THEY ADD WATERMELON IN THE
COURTYARD.

AND YES, THAT DOES SOUND

SARCASTIC, BUT THIS IS WHAT I'VE
SEEN THAT HAS CHANGED.

TODAY I WAS TALKING TO THE
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MAINTENANCE GUY WHO WAS

PICKING

UP A BUNCH OF DOG POOP IN
THE

COURTYARD BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T
PICKING UP AFTER THEIR DOGS.

AND THE CASE MANAGER COMES OUT.

THEY NEVER TALK TO ME.

AND SHE GOES YOUR VOICE IS
TOO
LOUD IN THE COURTYARD.

WHAT ABOUT FENTANYL LADY UP
ON

THE PORCH WHO HAS BEEN

GAKED OUT
ON DRUGS SINCE SATURDAY?

AND SHE LOOKS UP AS IF -- AS
IF
SHE WENT UP THERE ALL CONCERNED.

YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND HER.

SHE IS TALKING GIBBERISH

BECAUSE
SHE IS FRIGGING BLASTED.

ANY WAY, HAVE I TWO SECONDS.

THAT'S IT.

THERE IS SO MUCH MORE.

IF ANYBODY EVER WANTS TO TALK
TO
ME ABOUT IT.

THANK
YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

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NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM
IF
THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM.

MARY, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

GREAT.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

WELL, I'M WONDERING ABOUT

WHO'S PAYING FOR ADDITIONAL
POLICE.

WHAT ABOUT LINDA HOPKINS PAYING

FOR SOME ADDITIONAL POLICE.

WHAT ABOUT IF WE ASK HER TO

UNFREEZE THAT OFFICER'S -- I'M

SORRY, MY NOTES ARE ALL

SCREWED
UP -- FOR ONE OF THE OFFICERS.

AND I THINK THE COUNTY SHOULD
PAY FOR THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN

JEFF WEAVER

WAS HERE, THERE WERE TWO MORE
OFFICERS.

AND WHEN JEFF WAS HERE,
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WE
DIDN'T HAVE ELDERBERRY COMMONS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY HOMELESS
HERE.

I THINK WE HAD ABOUT THREE.

SO ANY WAY, THAT'S MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU, MARY, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE IS ANYONE

IN CHAMBERS
WHO

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS JEFF LUNTZEL,
L-U-N-T-Z-EL-U-N-T-Z-E-L.

IN PETALUMA, THEY CALL ME EL
JEFE, THE BOSS.

I WAS HOMELESS FOR THREE
YEARS

BETWEEN TRACY, CALIFORNIA AND
PETALUMA.

THERE IS A LOT OF BROKEN
THINGS

IN OUR SOCIETY, BUT THERE IS
A
LOT OF GOOD THINGS.

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I CURRENTLY HAVE HOUSING.

AND I MADE A LITTLE TRIP TO
A

PLACE CALLED LAS VEGAS,
NEVADA

WHERE I WON A WHOLE LOT OF
MONEY.

THAT'S NOT THE REASON I'M NOT
HOMELESS.

I HAD A LOT OF HELP FROM

PEOPLE LIKE
MARY -- LIKE MARY ISAAC.

I'M BUYING SONOMA JOE'S
CASINO

ON THE FREEWAY THAT YOU HAVE

SEEN EMPTY AND VACANT FOR YEARS

AND TURN IT BACK INTO A
RESTAURANT, BAR AND POKER ROOM.

I'VE BEEN PLAYING POKER FOR 51
YEARS.

I'M A PROFESSIONAL.

YOU SEE, I HAVE TWO EX-WIVES.

I HAD TO HIDE SOME MONEY
SOMEWHERE.

YOU SEE, I'VE BEEN A PUPPET, A

PAUPER, A PILOT, A KING,
I'VE

BEEN UP AND DOWN AND OVER
AND
OUT AND I KNOW ONE THING.

EACH TIME I FIND MYSELF

FLAT ON

MY FACE, I PICK MYSELF UP
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AND

GET BACK IN THE
RACE.

THAT'S LIFE.

THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE SAY.

YOU'RE RIDING HIGH IN

APRIL AND
YOU'RE SHOT DOWN IN MAY.

BUT I'M GOING TO CHANGE
THAT
TUNE COME JUNE.

AND IF NOTHING IS SHAKING
COME

HERE THIS JULY, I'M GOING ROLL

MYSELF UP IN A BIG BALL AND
DIE.

MY, MY.

OKAY.

ONE OTHER THING.

JEFF, YOU HAVE 20 SECONDS.

I WANT TOTO

EVERYBODY
THAT'S HELPED ME.

I HAVE THREE BEAUTIFUL

CHILDREN,

FIVE GRANDKIDS, ANOTHER ONE
ON
THE WAY.

THEY DIDN'T HELP ME FINANCIALLY.

I HAD TO HELP
MYSELF.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?

I DON'T GIVE A FLYING F ABOUT
MONEY.

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JEFF, THAT'S
TWO MINUTES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

VAYA CON DIOS, GO WITH
GOD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

GEORGES, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES.

DID YOU HEAR ME?

I CAN HEAR
YOU.

CAN YOU
SEE THE TIMER?
YES, I
CAN.

GREAT.

GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT, PLEASE.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION
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FOR
OUR MAYOR.

I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHY HE HAS

EXHIBITED SUCH A SEEMINGLY
DEEP

SEATED DISDAINDISDAIN POLICE

SERVICES IN SEBASTOPOL THROUGH A

FEW CHIEFS

AND OVER HIS CAREER
AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND IT -- MAYBE IT'S HIS -- AS
A

PUBLIC DEFENDER IN SAN

FRANCISCO, I'M NOT SURE, BUT
IT

JUST IT SEEMS TO ME BASED ON
THE

VIDEOS I'VE WATCHED
IN THE

COUNCIL MEETINGS WHEN I
CAN'T

ATTEND VIA ZOOM THAT HE SEEMS TO

HAVE A VERY NEGATIVE

ATTITUDE
TOWARDS OUR POLICE SERVICES.

AND I'D HOPE HE'D MAYBE
TAKE A

MOMENT TO EXPLAIN THAT THAT'S
ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

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IF THERE IS ANYONE

IN CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M DAVE TABER.

RECENTLY MOVED HERE TO
SEBASTOPOL.

VERY HAPPY ABOUT IT.

AND WE MOVED TO THE 700 BLOCK OF
HIGH STREET.

PART OF THE REASON THAT

WE MOVED

THERE WAS BECAUSE OF

PORCHFEST

LAST YEAR, WHICH WE

ATTENDED,

AND I PLAN TO VOLUNTEER THIS
YEAR.

I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH VIBRANT

LOCAL CULTURE IS PART OF WHAT
MAKES US TICK.

AND WE NEED TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF

THAT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

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NEXT.

THANK YOU.

I WILL GO UP TO ZOOM.

IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM
THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC

COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE

AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND
VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, I'LL COME BACK TO

CHAMBERS, IF THERE IS ANYONE
IN
CHAMBERS?

HELLO, I'M MARIAH, AND
BEHALF

OF THE CHAMBER AND BOARD OF

DIRECTORS, I JUST WANTED
TO

SPEAK OUT IN SUPPORT OF
PORCHFEST.

I THINK EVERYTHING THAT
THE

SPEAKER SAID I WOULD

REITERATE
THE SAME.

AND THE VALUE IN AN EVENT LIKE

THIS THAT DRAWS PEOPLE TO
TOWN

TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE

OF SEBASTOPOL WHICH IS VERY
MUCH
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ABOUT ART AND MUSIC.

AND IF WE CAN SUPPORT THE

MUSICIANS, THE ARTISTS,
GIVE

SOMETHING FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO

DO, AND DRAW PEOPLE TO

TOWN, I
THINK IT'S JUST A TRIPLE WIN.

WE ARE HOSTING AN

EVENT AFTER
PRIM
PRIMERA ART SPACE.

IT'S 5:30 THIS THURSDAY.

AND YOU CAN MEET THE

PORCHFEST

TEAM AND CHECK OUT CHIMERA ART
SPACE IF YOU HAVE NOT. YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.

NEXT, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.

IF THERE IS ANYONE ON
ZOOM

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A

COMMENT FOR AN ITEM NOT ON THE
AGENDA.

SEEING NONE, I'LL COME BACK
INTO

CHAMBERS IF THERE IS ANYONE
IN

CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MY NAME IS KAREN DEREST, AND
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I
LIVE AT 491 HIGH STREET.

I AM VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE
TO
SPEAK ON BEHALF OF PORCHFEST.

I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THERE IS
A

PATTERN THAT WE HAVE AS
HUMANS

TO GO TOWARDS THE

OPPOSITIONAL

VOICE INSTEAD OF THE ONE THAT
IS
FILLED WITH JOY.

AND I DON'T KNOW ANOTHER

EVENT THAT

BROUGHT SO MUCH JOY TO MY
NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WAS FILLED WITH PEOPLE,

CHILDREN, YOUNG

PEOPLE, OLD

PEOPLE CELEBRATING COMMUNITY
TOGETHER.

AND THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T

PRIORITIZE THAT, WE CAN'T
SAY

THIS IS WHO WE WANT TO BE AS A

COMMUNITY, THIS WHO WE STAND FOR

INSTEAD OF GIVING IN TO

OPPOSITION MAKES ME
SAD.

AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND
A

WAY TO BRING THIS BACK TOGETHER

AS A COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WE
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DESERVE THAT.

WE DESERVE THAT JOY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

WE WANT TO KEEP MOVING ALONG
HERE.

SO PLEASE REDUCE THE PHYSICAL --
THANK YOU.

I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM.

IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM
THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC

COMMENT FOR AN ITEM NOT ON THE

AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND
VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, I'LL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT.

HI.

MY NAME IS DORENA.

I LIVE ON LONE PINE ROAD,
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AND
I'M A MUSICIAN.

AND I'M -- I WAS
REALLY

DISAPPOINTED TO COME

TOGETHER

AND TO HEAR THAT PORCHFEST HAD

BEEN SHRUNK FROM ITS ORIGINAL
IDEA.

I ATTENDED LAST YEAR, AND
THIS

YEAR MY GROUP, WE SING
BALKAN

VILLAGE MUSIC, WHICH IS NOT --

IT'S NOT EASY TO FIND
ANAN
AUDIENCE FOR THIS.

IT'S VERY SPECIFIC, AND IT'S

VERY OLD, AND IT'S
VERY
WONDERFUL.

AND IT REALLY IS ABOUT
THE

COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER IN

DANCE AND SONG FROM A VERY,
VERY
OLD SET OF CULTURES.

AND WE WERE VERY EXCITED TO
BE

ON THE STREET THAT WAS

PART OF
THE ORIGINAL IDEA OF EXPANSION.

AND THE HOUSE WHERE WE
WERE

GOING TO PERFORM WAS PART OF
A
HUGE NEIGHBORHOOD MOVEMENT.

ALL OF THESE NEIGHBORS WERE
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COMING TOGETHER TALKING ABOUT,

YEAH, WHAT ARE WE GOING
TO DO?

HOW IS IT GOING TO WORK,
AND
WHERE DO YOU WANT TO PLAY?
AND WHO ELSE CAN WE BRING IN?

IT WAS JUST THIS HUBBUB
OF

ACTIVITY OF THE KIND THAT I KNOW

PEOPLE ARE REALLY THIRSTY
FOR,

ESPECIALLY SINCE COVID

HAS KIND

OF INHIBITED OUR ABILITY TO
COME

TOGETHER PEACEFULLY AND
FRUITFULLY.

SO I -- ON BEHALF OF
OTHER

MUSICIANS LIKE MYSELF AND
OTHER

NEIGHBORS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE

THIS HAPPEN,

I URGE THE COUNCIL
TO SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

AGAIN, HE WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM
THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC

COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND
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VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, I WILL COME
BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS?

I WANT TO MENTION
THAT

PORCHES MAKE OUR WHOLE CITY
SAFER.

YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF NEW

SUBDIVISIONS, THE ONLY
PORCH

THEY HAVE IS A FAKE FACADE
THAT

WOULD BE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE SIT

ON THE PORCH TO GET

TO LEARN
YOUR NEIGHBORS.

SO HAVING PORCHES, WE'RE
LUCKY.

ANYTHING WE CAN DO WITH

PORCHES
IS WONDERFUL.

MEET YOUR NEIGHBORS.

GET TO KNOW YOUR

NEIGHBORS, AND

THAT IS A WONDERFUL WAY TO DO
IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM.

IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM
THAT
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WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC

COMMENT FOR AN ITEM NOT ON THE

AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND
VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, HE WILL COME BACK
INTO CHAMBERS.

IF THERE IS ANYONE

IN CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT.

MY NAME IS ANNE HAMILTON.

I'M A CITIZEN IN
SEBASTOPOL.

I WAS INVOLVED WITH

PORCHFEST

LAST YEAR, AND I JUST HAVE
TO

SAY FROM THE VOLUNTEER SIDE,

PEOPLE WERE ECSTATIC TO BE
INVOLVED.

YOU LOOKED AROUND ON THE

STREET,

AND THERE WERE FAMILIES
WITH
YOUNG KIDS HAVING PICNICS.

THE 20-SOMETHING CREW

WAS THERE

BECAUSE THERE WAS A PLACE FOR
THEM TO BE PLAYING MUSIC.

IT FELT SAFE AND LOVELY AND
A
BIG COMMUNITY GATHERING.

AND PEOPLE KEPT COMING UP
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ALL

DAY SAYING THIS IS THE KIND
OF
PLACE I WANT TO LIVE IN.

SO I HOPE WE LOOK AT THETHE

OF REINSTATING IT AT

THE LEVEL

THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE THIS

YEAR BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A BIG

LOSS TO THE COMMUNITY, AND
THERE

IS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AROUND
IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ANNE, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT, I'LL GO OUT TO
ZOOM.

IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM
THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC

COMMENT FOR AN ITEM NOT ON THE

AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND
VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, I'LL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE IS ANYONE

IN CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT.

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HI, I'M ELIZABETH.

AND MOVED HERE IN 2018.

I DELVED RIGHT INTO THE

COMMUNITY AS I HAVE NO FAMILY

HERE, AND SO TURNED

TO COMMUNITY

AS A WAY TO HAVE SUPPORT FOR MY
CHILDREN AND MYSELF.

AND I'VE BEEN REALLY INVOLVED
IN

CREATING OPPORTUNITIES IN
THIS

COMMUNITY THAT UNITE US,
THAT

STRENGTHEN COMMUNITIES,
AND OF

COURSE GIVE OPPORTUNITIES
FOR

CHILDREN AND FAMILIES TO BE
INVOLVED.

AND I

AM ONE OF THE BOARD
MEMBERS FOR PORCHFEST.

AND PORCHFEST'S WHOLE MISSION
IS

TO CREATE A SENSE OF

COMMUNITY

AND STRENGTHEN BONDS BETWEEN THE

NEIGHBORS WHILE SUPPORTING THE
MUSIC AND THE ARTS.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT'S
DONE.

AND IT'S MY HOPE THAT THE
CITY

WILL CONSIDER TO PARTNER WITH
US

SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE
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THIS

OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY

AND BRING IN DIVERSE MUSIC THAT

AREN'T USUALLY GIVEN
THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SHINE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT TO
CHECK

IT OUT LAST YEAR, BUT THERE
WERE

SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE AND SO
MANY

DIFFERENT

BANDS THAT WE HAD
NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE.

IT WAS A REALLY

BEAUTIFUL

DISPLAY OF COMMUNITY TO SEE
ALL

THESE YOUNG PEOPLE AND

ALL THESE

FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT
ARE

CHOOSING TO MOVE TO
THIS

COMMUNITY JUST BECAUSE OF
WHAT

THEY'VE

SEEN THAT THIS COMMUNITY
IS CAPABLE OF.

AND IT'S DEFINITELY WHY I MOVED
HERE.

I ABSOLUTELY FELL IN LOVE WITH
FLORENCE STREET.

I FELL IN LOVE WITH GRATEFUL

BAGEL, AND JUST ALL
THE

WONDERFUL THINGS

THAT THIS
COMMUNITY OFFERS.

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AND I CAN SEE US

EVENTUALLY

HAVING PORCH FEST ON

FLORENCE

STREET AND OTHER PARTS OF
THIS
COMMUNITY.

AND SO I JUST REALLY WANT
TO

ENCOURAGE THE CITY AND THE

COMMUNITY TO CONSIDER

PARTNERING
WITH US.

AND I THINK MY

DAUGHTER WANTED

TO SAY SOMETHING AS
EL.

YOU DON'T WANT THE SAY ANYTHING?
OKAY.

WELL, HER NAME IS LUCY, AND
SHE

REALLY, REALLY HAD A GOOD
TIME
LAST YEAR.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXTLY GO OUT TO
ZOOM.

IF THERE IS ANYONE ON

ZOOM THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC

COMMENTS, PLEASE RAISE YOUR
HAND
VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, I WILL

COME BACK
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INTO CHAMBERS.

IF THERE IS ANYONE

IN CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT.

SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS
CLOSED.

THANK YOU, MARY.

AND I JUST WANT TO DIRECT A
QUESTION JUST FOR CLARITY.

STAFF PULLED THE ITEM BECAUSE OF
THE PULLING OF THE APPLICATION?

THE APPLICANT REACHED
OUT,

WITHDREW THE APPLICATION FOR
THIS TIME.

THEY HAD TOLD US THAT

THEY WERE

GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DOING
AN

EVENT AT THE SEBASTOPOL CENTER

FOR THE ART AS WELL AS AT THE
IVES PARK.

THEY WILL SUBMIT THE

SPECIAL
PERMIT APPLICATION.

WE DID ALSO DISCUSS

POTENTIAL
WAIVER OF FEES.

IF THAT'S A REQUEST,

THAT WILL
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COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL
AS
WELL.

THANK YOU, MARY.

ALSO, TO RESPOND BRIEFLY TO
SOME

OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS
ABOUT

WHAT WE'RE DOING IN REGARDS
TO

COUNTY AGENCY, I WOULD
REALLY

HOPE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE

CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT DIFFERENT

COUNTY AGENCIES ARE
DOING,
PLEASE MARK AUGUST 5th ON YOUR
CALENDAR.

THE NEW DIVISION DIRECTOR FOR

HOMELESS SERVICES FROM
THE

COUNTY HAS BEEN INVITED TO
PRESENT TO ALL OF US.

SO PLEASE SAVE ALL YOUR
QUESTIONS.

COME PREPARED BECAUSE THAT'S
THE

TIME TO ASK THE QUESTIONS
ABOUT

WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR
NOT DOING.

SO THANK
YOU.

I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT IN
THERE.

YES, COUNCILMEMBER
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HINTON?

CAN I BE ALLOWED TO JUST
MAKE
A FEW COMMENTS AT THIS TIME?
SURE.

I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE

PUBLIC THAT SPOKE TO US ABOUT

PORCHFEST AND JUST SAY THAT
I

WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED, HAVING

READ THE HOLD AGENDA MEETING TO

NOT BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON THE
ITEM.

I UNDERSTAND THAT

FOUNDERS AND

THE STEERING

COMMITTEE, YOUR
COMMITTEE HAS PULLED THE ITEM.

BUT IT'S HARD BECAUSE WE'RE
NOT

ALLOWED TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE
THE

ITEM HAS BEEN
PULLED.

IT'S DISAPPOINTING, AND I'M SURE

IT'S DISAPPOINTING FOR YOU
GUYS
THAT YOU HAD SOME PUSHBACK.

I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY
WELL

THOUGHT

OUT, BUT JUST DON'T

ASSUME THAT AS A COUNCIL OR
A

CITY THAT WE'RE NOT

SUPPORTING
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YOU BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD
THE

OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS
THE
SUBJECT.

SO I HOPE TO SEE IT BACK.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER?

YES, I WANT TO ADDRESS ONE OF

THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT THIS

COUNCIL

WON'T ADDRESS ALL
THE

COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE

TONIGHT, AND THERE'S A
LEGAL
REASON FOR THAT.

IT'S CALLED THE BROWN ACT, I
BELIEVE.

IF

IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE
CAN'T DISCUSS IT.

AND SO I JUST WANT THE MAKE
THAT
CLEAR.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO IGNORE
ANYONE HERE.

IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE
JUST CAN'T DISCUSS IT.

AND THAT'S A LEGAL
REASON.

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THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO
THE

CONSENT
CALENDAR.

THE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE HERE
ARE

THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY

COUNCIL
MEETING MINUTES OF JULY 1st,
2025.

AND NUMBER TWO, APPROVAL

OF CITY

COUNCIL INVITING

REPRESENTATIVES

FROM THE CITY'S LABOR UNIONS
TO

PARTICIPATE IN A

COLLABORATIVE

DISCUSSION IN A PUBLIC CITY

COUNCIL MEETING TO

EXPLORE

STRATEGIES FOR GROWING
AND

SUPPORTING ENTRY-LEVEL

POSITIONS

WITHIN THE

ORGANIZATIONS,

INCLUDING STRATEGIC USE OF

OUTSOURCING

TO OPTIMIZE STAFFING
RESOURCES.

NUMBER 3, RECEIPT OF REPORT ON

SCTA FUNDING PROGRAM CYCLE
2 PRIORITY LIST OF PROJECTS
FOR
FISCAL YEAR 2025-'26 THROUGH
2030 THROUGH '31 AND

AUTHORIZE

STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
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GRANT
APPLICATIONS TO SCTA.

AS FAR AS FISCAL

IMPACT,

APPROVAL OF THIS ACTION
WOULD

NOT HAVE A FISCAL IMPACT IN

FISCAL JEER '25-'26.

HOWEVER, IF A GRANT IS AWARDED

THERE WOULD BE IMPACT

STARTING
FISCAL YEAR '26-'27 AWARDED
IN

THE SCTCTA CYCLE FUNDING

PROGRAM

IF AWARDED, A FUTURE

FUNDING

AGREEMENT WITH SCTCA

COMMITTING

TO THE LOCAL MATCH WOULD
BE
BROUGHT TO COUNCILCOUNCIL APPROVAL.

NUMBER 4, ADOPTION

RESOLUTION

AUTHORIZING THE COLLECTION OF

CDTFA OF A HALF SENT SALES TAX

APPROVED TATARINOV 5th, .

DUE TO AMBIGUITY IN THE STATE

LAW, THE CITY PREVIOUSLY
WAIVED

COLLECTION OF A QUARTER CENT TAX
AUTHORIZED BY MEASURE U.

THE RECENT CHANGE ALLOWS THE
CITY TO COLLECT THE FULL 1/2.

THERE IS NO FISCAL IMPACT
FOR
THE ITEM.

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BASED IN CHANGE IN STATE
LAW,

THE ADOPTED BUDGET

ASSUMES
IMPLEMENTATION OF A FULL 1/2
TAX.

AGREEMENT INSURES THE CITY
WILL

AGREE THE FULL HALF CENT
UNTIL

SUCH TIME AS THE FULL
TAX
IMPLEMENTED BY CDTFA.

SO I'M LOOKING TO MY

COLLEAGUES

NOW TO MY LEFT TO SEE IF
ANYONE
WOULD LIKE TO PULL AN ITEM.

TO MY RIGHT TO SEE IF ANYONE
PULL AN ITEM.

MARY?
THIS IS ITEMS 1 THROUGH 4 ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
MAKE A

PUBLIC ITEM ON ONE OF THE
ITEMS,
IT IS, AGAIN, A TWOMINUTE

PUBLIC COMMENT IN

CHAMBERS

FIRST, AND THEN I'LL GO OUT TO
ZOOM.

HI.

STEVE PEARCE.

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I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF AND
IN

PARTICULAR TONY BERTALERO
AND

OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF FOR

MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS
GRANT
APPLICATION TO SCTCA.

HOPEFULLY HAVE I THE ACRONYMS
CORRECTLY.

THIS IS KIND OF

AN IMPORTANT
MILESTONE FOR OUR CITY HERE.

WE DID THIS ACTIVE

TRANSPORTATION PLAN, AND

THIS IS
OUR FIRST STEP.

AND I'M ENCOURAGED WITH THE LIST

OF ITEMS THAT WAS BROUGHT
FORWARD BY STAFF.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME
ITEMS

THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO

BRING IN

SOONER BECAUSE THE
FIRST

ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION
ITEM
WOULDN'T REALLY HIT UNTIL 2027.

THERE IS SOME SMALL ITEMS THAT

DON'T COST MUCH THAT

REALLY HAVE

THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE
BRING
THEM FORWARD MUCH SOONER.

AND THEN THERE IS SOME
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BIGGER

ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE
LIST

THAT I THINK THERE IS
SOME

INTEREST FROM THE COUNCIL
AND

THERE MAYBE IS A POSSIBILITY FOR
FUNDING FROM SCTCA.

AND THAT IS OUR DESKTOP
STUDY
FOR THE BIKE TRAILS.

BECAUSE THE BIKE TRAILS ARE
NOT

ON THIS LIST RIGHT NOW,
AND I

THINK THERE IS A

GENERAL
INTEREST.

NOT SURE IF IT'S POSSIBLE
FOR

THAT GRANT MONEY

TO BE USED FOR
THAT.

I SEE COUNCILMEMBER, PROBABLY
NOT POSSIBLE.

THAT'S UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE WE

NEED TO LOOK AT THE LONGER TERM
ITEMS.

AND IN REGARDS TO PROBABLY
THE

BIGGEST ITEM ON THE LIST I

THINKTHINK

WISE IS THE LIBBY
PARK

TRAIL THAT GOES THROUGH THE PARK

THAT'S KIND OF A GOAT TRAIL
RIGHT NOW.

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AND WE NEED TO

HAVE SOMETHING

THAT WORKS FOR PEDESTRIANS
AND
FOR BICYCLISTS.

AND GIVEN WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE

FENCE PROJECT IN LIBBY PARK,
A

GREAT VOLUNTEER EFFORTEFFORT
WE

CAN PROBABLY DO SOMETHING
SIMILAR AND DROP OUR CROSS.

YOU HAVE ABOUT TEN
SECONDS.

THAT WAS DONE BY ROTARY,
BUT

THERE IS NOT PEOPLE THAT WE
CAN

GET TOGETHER AND DO

SOMETHING

SIMILAR ON THAT
TRAIL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

KYLE, YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?

THERE WE
GO.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
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I CAN.

GREAT.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THIS

AGENDA ITEM ABOUT INVITATION
TO

CITY LABOR UNIONS FOR
A

COLLABORATIVE DISCUSSION
ON

WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
AND
STRATEGIC STAFFING APPROACHES.

AND, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WANT
TO

CUT THROUGH SOME OF THE
NOISE

HERE AND JUST MAKE SURE
THAT

WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING IS

LOOKING TO STRENGTHEN OUR OWN
COMMUNITY WORKFORCE.

IT'S CONCERNING TO ME TO BE

HEARING ABOUT OUTSOURCING
LABOR,

AND I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA
HERE

THAT, LIKE, IF YOU'VE
GOT

SPECIFIC LOWER CAPACITY OR

NON-CORE FUNCTION LABOR,
THAT

YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE

OUTSOURCING
THAT.

THE CONCERN I HAVE HERE IS THAT

ONE, WE DO HAVE LABOR
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UNIONS,

AND THE LABOR UNION AGREEMENT S

AGREEMENTS

YOU HAVE KIND OF STICKLATIONS

THERE ABOUT WHO WE ARE HIRING

AND WHAT CUTES THE WORK OF OUR
EMPLOYEES.

SO I GUESS REALLY THIS IS A

MESSAGE TO OUROUR STAFF
WHO

ARE UNIONIZED TO

VERY TAKE

SERIOUSLY ANY SORT OF

PROPOSAL

OF OUTSOURCING WORK AND

OUTSOURCING LABOR BECAUSE
IT IS

A VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE TO A POINT

WHERE WE ARE

SPENDING HUNDREDS

OF THOUSANDS OF

DOLLARS,

CONTINUING TO SPEND HUNDREDS
OF

THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS

OUTSOURCING

HIGH COMPLEX LABOR IN TERMS OF

OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT,
AND

THAT WAS JUST STRICTLY AS
A

RESULT OF OUR FAILING TO HIRE
AN

ENGINEERING MANAGER FOR
YEARS

AND YEARS AND
YEARS.

AND THE COSTS EXPLODED FOR THAT

DEPARTMENT AS A RESULT OF
OUTSOURCING LABOR.

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I THINK IT'S A LITTLE
SHORT

SIGHTED TO THINK THAT

OUTSOURCING LABOR IS A
COST-SAVING MEASURE.

AND I WOULD ACTIVELY

ENCOURAGE

OUR UNIONS TO REALLY LOOK
AT

THIS PROPOSAL BEFORE COMING
TO

ANY SORT

OF AGREEMENT TO
OUTSOURCING LABOR.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, KYLE, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE IS ANYONE IN

CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A
CONSENT ON THE CALENDAR ITEMS 1
THROUGH 4?
SEEING NONE, ITEM IS CLOSED.

OH, SORRY, KATE JUST JUMPED HER
HAND.

KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE.

I AM UNMUTED, THANK YOU.

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I JUST WANTED TO

SUPPORT I

BELIEVE HIS NAME IS STEVE
PEARCE.

I WANTED TO SUPPORT HIS -- HIS

CALL FOR A PEDESTRIAN

BICYCLEBICYCLE
TRAIL THROUGH WALTER LIBBY PARK.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I ALSO SUPPORT BOTH THE APPLE

BLOSSOM AND GRAVENSTEEN BIKE
TRAILS.

I THINK THOSE WOULD BE A
TERRIFIC ADDITION TO OUR CITY.

AND I WAS LOOKING THROUGHTHROUGH

ITEM, AND I SAW -- ARE YOU
GUYS

PLANNING ON PUTTING ANY

SIDEWALK

ON PALM IN BETWEEN MAIN
STREET
AND PETALUMA AVENUE?

I KEEP ASKING FOR THIS BECAUSE

THERE IS TWO MAJOR CROSSWALKS

THERE, BUT THEN THERE IS
NO
ADJOINING SIDEWALK.

SO IT'S KIND OF A VERY MIXED

PORTRAIT FOR THE PEDESTRIAN IN
THAT AREA.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CITYCITY
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TO, YOU KNOW, I THINK
IT'S

PROBABLY A HALF A BLOCK WORTH OF

SIDEWALK THAT COULD CONNECT

TWO MAJOR

CROSSWALKS THROUGH AND
TWO
MAJOR INTERSECTIONS.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S ON
THERE
OR NOT.

BUT IF IT'S NOT,

I WOULD REALLY
STRONGLY ADVISE FOR THAT.

AND YEAH, AND I WAS
VERY

ENCOURAGING LOOKING THROUGH
THE

PAVEMENT LIST AND SEEING
WHAT

ROADS WILL

BE PAVED YEAR BY
YEAR.

SO THANK YOU.

BYE-BYE.

THANK YOU, KATE, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE IS ANYONE

IN CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A

COMMENT ON THE CONSENT

CALENDAR
ITEM.

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SEEING

NONE, CONSENT CALENDAR

ITEM IS
CLOSED.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION
OR
MOTION?
I'LL

GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1

THROUGH

4. I'LL SECOND.

THANK YOU.

MARY?

SO MOVED BY

COUNCILMEMBER

HINTON AND SECONDED
BY

COUNCILMEMBER MAURER TO
MOVE
CONSENT ITEMS 1 THROUGH 4.

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?
AYE.

MAURER?
YES.

VICE
MARILUS WHICH IS ABSENT.

SO THE MOTION PASSES 4-1 WITH
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CARTER, HINTON, MAURER IN
SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

AS INDICATED BEFORE BY MARY,
NUMBER 5 WILL BE COMING BACK
ON
AUGUST 5th.

MOVING TO THE INFORMATIONAL
ITEM
NUMBER 6, WHICH IS
A

PRESENTATION FROM THE CHAMBER
OF

COMMERCE AND DOWNTOWN BUSINESS

ON THE MAIN STREET AMERICA
PROGRAM.

AND THE RESPONSIBLE

DEPARTMENT

IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
DIRECTOR.

AS FAR AS FISCAL IMPACT, THERE

IS NO FISCAL

IMPACT ASSOCIATED

WITH RECEIPT OF
THIS ITEM.

I'M

TURNING IT TO THE
DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OR TO MARY.

SO THIS WOULD

ACTUALLY

FALL -- THIS WAS REQUESTED BY

OUR MAYOR TO HAVE THE ITEM
COME

FORWARD TO THE CITY
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COUNCIL.

THIS IS ABOUT THE MAIN
STREET

AMERICA PROGRAM THAT THE CHAMBER

WENT TO IN OREGON, CORRECT ME
IF
I'M WRONG.

EUREKA.

I'M SORRY.

THAT WAS CLOSE.

IT'S ON THE
BORDER.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHORT

INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION
ON
THIS ITEM.

THERE IS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN

AT TONIGHT'S MEETING, BUT
THE

COUNCIL CAN GIVE

DIRECTION AFTER
THE PRESENTATION.

I WANT TO INTRODUCE MARIAH AND

ANDREA, IF THEY CAN COME AND
DO
A PRESENTATION.

YES, THANK YOU BOTH VERY
MUCH.

AND THANK YOU,

ANDREA IN

PARTICULAR FOR EMAILING ME
ABOUT

THE FACT THAT YOU AND
MARIAH
WENT TO THE CONFERENCE.

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SO THANK YOU BOTH FOR GOING TO
THE CONFERENCE.

AND JUST FOR THOSE FOLLOWING

ALONG AT HOME, ANDREA HAS

PRESENTED US WITH A BINDER
WITH

SOME PAGES IN IT WHICH

HOPEFULLY

THEY'LL BE GOING OVER FOR THE

PUBLIC AS WELL
ONLINE.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, I'LL START.

YEAH, AS MAYOR ZOLLMAN

MENTIONED, ANDREA AND I WENT
ON
A ROAD TRIP TO EUREKA.

WAS IT NOVEMBER?
YEAH.

WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE

WERE GETTING OURSELVES
INTO.

I THINK JON JAY

HAD RECOMMENDED
THE U.S. MAIN STREET PROGRAM.

WE SPENT TIME ON THE WAY
UP

STOPPING IN EVERY SMALL TOWN

THAT WE COULD

TO OBSERVE THEIR
DOWNTOWNS.

WHAT EACH TOWN DID

DIFFERENTLY,

WHAT WE SAW AS THINGS
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THAT COULD

BE IMPROVED, WHAT WE SAW AS

THINGS THAT INSPIRED US FOR
SEBASTOPOL.

THE CONFERENCE ITSELF WAS
HIGHLY
INFORMATIONAL.

I THINK THIS PROGRAM IS ONE
THAT

WOULD BE A GREAT MATCH FOR
SEBASTOPOL RIGHT NOW.

IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT THE

REVITALIZATION OF THE DOWNTOWN
CORRIDOR.

IT'S IN 44 STATES, AND TOWNS

THAT HAVE SIGNED UP HAVE SHOWN

AN INCREASE IN NEW SHOPS

OPENING, AN INCREASE IN
FOOT

TRAFFIC, ALL KINDS OF

BENEFITS

OF BEING A MEMBER

OF THIS

ORGANIZATION, AND IT'S NOT VERY
EXPENSIVE.

IT'S ONLY ABOUT $800 A YEAR.

SO -- OH, THREE TO
SIX.

BUT ON THAT NOTE, I WANT TO
LET

ANDREA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A
MORE

FURTHER PRESENTATION WHAT WE
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LEARNED.

YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.

OKAY.

SO THE ORGANIZATION IS A
NONPROFIT.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
ANY

GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY, AND
THEY

PARTNER UP HERE WITH VISIT
CALIFORNIA.

AND WHAT THEY DO IS

BASICALLY,

I'M GOING TO READ FROM HERE,
IT
SUPPORTS -- HELLO.

SORRY.

IT SUPPORTS OVER
1,200

COMMUNITIES IN

RESTORING

ECONOMIC VITALITY IN THEIR

DOWNTOWNS THROUGH FLEXIBLE
COMMUNITY-DRIVEN FRAMEWORK.

AND A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I

HEARD BEFORE ABOUT THE PORCHFEST

AND I READ ABOUT THE THING

THAT THAT

GOING TO HEAD, THE

GARDENING, THAT ALL PULLS IT ALL
TOGETHER, WHICH IS REALLY NICE.

ANOTHER THING ABOUT THE
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ORGANIZATION IS

THAT THEY HAVE
SPECIALISTS FOR EVERYTHING.

SO THEY HAVE A DEPARTMENT THAT

WOULD HELP SMALL BUSINESSES GET
LOANS.

THEY WOULD HAVE A DEPARTMENT

THAT WOULD HELP WITH LETTING YOU

KNOW WHAT LEGISLATION IS ON THE

GOVERNOR'S DESK THAT CONCERNS
MAIN STREETS.

THEY ALSO HAVE

AN EXTENSIVE

THING OF GRANTS THAT THEY DO

HELP, AND THEY ACTUALLY HELP
US.

SO THERE IS A PLETHORA OF
THESE

SPECIALISTS WHO ARE LAWYERS AND
CPAs AND YOU NAME IT, THEY'RE
THERE.

AND IT'S JUST THE THING
THAT

STRUCK ME IS TO HAVE ONEONE

THAT WE COULD GO TO FOR ALL
OF

THE ISSUES THAT WEWE

SUBSTANTIAL INFORMATION ON
AND

NOT HAVE TO KEEP IS PIECING
IT
OUT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND I THINK IT WOULD HELP UNIFY.

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I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
TO

TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS
RIGHT
NOW.

THE COST IS MINIMAL.

AND I WAS JUST REALLY

IMPRESSED

ABOUT HOW THAT THEY NOW HAVE
A

PROVEN SETUP, SO BASICALLY
WHAT

THEY DO IS THE MAIN STREET'S

FOUR-POINT APPROACH IS DESIGN,

IMPROVE STREET SCAPES, SIGNAGE

AND AESTHETICS, AND PROMOTION,

MARKET OUR DOWNTOWN TO

LOCALS AND

VISITORS,

ORGANIZATION, BUILD

PARTNERSHIPS ACROSS CITY,
BUSINESS AND BUSINESS GROUPS.

IT HAS WORKED IN 27 STATES NOW

AND I REALLY BELIEVE

THAT THAT

WOULD BE A VERY, VERY
GOOD

OVERVIEW TO TAKE A LOOK AT
AND

THEN SEE HOW WE CAN
TAKE

EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS AND
WORK

TOGETHER INSTEAD OF
HAVING

EVERYBODY IN

SEPARATE
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DIRECTIONS.

WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING.

THIS JUST HELPS US ALL BRING IT
TOGETHER.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS?

I WILL OPEN IT UP AND I WANT

TO MAKE SURE MAKE PRESENTATION IS
COMPLETE.

I HAVE ONE.

SURE.

THERE WERE PEOPLE FROM
SMALL

TOWNS AND FROM ALL OVER
THE

STATE AND I THOUGHT THAT

SOME OF

THE ISSUES WE HAVE IN

SEBASTOPOL, I SAID TO

ANDREA,
IT'S SO UNIQUE TO SEBASTOPOL.

WHAT I FOUND IS THAT WAS
NOT
REALLY THE CASE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF

OVERLAP IN

THE CHALLENGES THAT A SMALL
DOWNTOWN FACES.

YOU KNOW, OUR -- THE
UNIQUE

SPECIFIC ISSUES WE ALL KNOW
WE
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HAVE ARE THE ROADWAYS, THE

TWO-WAY/ONE-WAY

SITUATION AND

THE FACT THAT THE TOWN WAS
BUILT

AND TWO MAJOR INTERSECTIONS AND

HIGHWAYS ARE BUILT IN THE MIDDLE
OF DOWNTOWN.

THERE WAS OPPOSITION TO IT FROM

SOME, BUT THE VALUE IN THE

BARLOW NOW, THIS IS A FACT,
IT

BRINGS PEOPLE TO TOWN BUT HOW
DODO
BRIDGE
THAT GAP.

THIS ORGANIZATION IS ONE
THAT

CAN HELP US WITH THOSE

CHALLENGES.

SO YEAH, WE'RE BOTH ALL
ABOUT
IT.

YEAH, IF YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS,
PLEASE ASK.

HOLD ON.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE
THE
PRESENTERS ARE DONE.

MY THING IS I WAS JUST AMAZEDAMAZED

HOW MANY SMALL TOWNS WE
WENT

THROUGH, AND THE ONES THAT HAD
A
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LOT OF PARKING ALSO HAD A LOT
OF
EMPTY STOREFRONTS.

I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT

WHERE WE ARE ALL UPSET
THAT

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF

PARKING,

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO REMIND

PEOPLE, TOWNS THAT DON'T HAVE
A

LOT OF PARKING AND ARE FULL MEAN

THEY ARE DOING WELL, BECAUSE
WE
SAW A LOT OF THEM.

AND YOU TOLD ME, COUNCILMEMBER

CARTER, YOU DROVE THROUGH
EUREKA, AND IT WAS AMAZING.

I DID PUT THE LINK THERE SO
YOU

CAN READ ABOUT IT, AND EVERYBODY

ELSE IS, TOO, AND YOU CAN GAIN
A
LOT OF INFORMATION.

I WANT TO MAKE
SURE

EVERYTHING IS

OUT -- PLEASE,
THIS IS YOUR TIME TO BE HERE.

STOPPING IN THE

VISITORS

CENTERS AND CHAMBERS IN THE
TOWNS, TOO, WAS INTERESTING.

WHAT I FOUND, FOR

EXAMPLE, IN
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THE EUREKA CHAMBER, PART OF
THE
"STAR WARS" FILMS WERE FILMED UP

THERE, AND THEY REALLY DIVE INTO

THE CULTURE OF WHAT MAKES
THEIR

TOWN UNIQUE, SPECIFICALLY,
LIKE,
THERE WAS A BIG R2D2 IN
THE

MIDDLE OF THE VIDEO CENTER,
AND

SCENES FROM THE FILM
IN

DIFFERENT LANDSCAPES IN

EUREKA,

AND IT MADE ME THINK OF

SEBASTOPOL, AND THE CHAMBER
IS

NOT JUST A CHAMBER BUT
A
VISITORS CENTER.

WE REMODELED AND REBRANDED
AND

WE HAVE SEBASTOPOL T-SHIRTS
AND

WATER BOTTLES AND I

NOTICED THIS

AS A CHARACTERISTIC AS A LOT OF

THE DIFFERENT VISITORS

CENTERS,

AND THAT WAS EDUCATIONAL TO
ME

TO SEE HOW OTHER TOWNS ARE
DOING
IT.

THANK YOU.

NOW I WILL OPEN IT UP
FOR
DISCUSSIONS.I

WILL GO TO
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COUNCILMEMBER
MAURER.

THIS COUNCIL VOTED TO

SUPPORT

THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES
AND WE
VOTED TO GIVE ANOTHER $15,000 TO

SOMETHING TO CONNECT THE
BARLOW

TO DOWNTOWN, AND WE VOTED
ON
THAT AT THE LAST MEETING.

I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

YOU SAID THAT -- I WANT TO
MAKE

IT CONCRETE SO I UNDERSTAND
HOW
IT WORKS.

THE PRICE TAG IS RELATIVELY

INEXPENSIVE, RIGHT, FOR
THE

SERVICES YOU ARE OFFERING,
BUT I

DON'T TOTALLY UNDERSTAND HOW
IT
WORKS.

IF WE TAKE ONE LITTLE
ISSUE,

LIKE THE ISSUE OF CONNECTING THE

BARLOW TO
THE DOWNTOWN.

HOW WOULD THAT WORK IN TERMS
OF

BEING A MEMBER OF THIS

ORGANIZATION?

THEN WHO WOULD DO --

HOW WOULD
YOU GET THE HELP?
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THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING
TO

UNDERSTAND AND THEN I HAVE ONE
MORE QUESTION AFTER THAT.

DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT?

YEAH, DID YOU SAY YOU
HAVE
ANOTHER QUESTION?

YES, BUT --
ANSWER THIS ONE FIRST?

YES, PLEASE.

I'M SPACING --

IT'S FINE.

THIS WILL BE A

LEARNING
EXPERIENCE.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WE WILL LEARN AS WE GO.

I KNOW WE HAVE A TEAM OF

EXPERTS

AND WE WILL PROVIDE THEM
WITH

OUR SPECIFIC CHALLENGES ON
THE

SITUATION AND GET GUIDANCE IN

TERMS OF IMPLEMENTING, AND
I

THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU
ARE
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ASKING.

IT'S GOING TO BE A MATTER OF THE

COLLABORATION AND

CONTRIBUTIONS

OF THE COMMUNITY AND

BUSINESS

OWNERS TO REALLY IMPLEMENT
THE

PLANS AND SUPPORT FROM THE CITY,

DEPENDING ON WHAT THE

PARTICULAR
ISSUE MIGHT BE.

RECENTLY, WE, THE

DOWNTOWN

ASSOCIATION AND THE CHAMBER, AS

YOU KNOW, WERE IN THIS PROCESS
OF, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, A MERGER.

AT THIS POINT THE CHAMBER
OF

COMMERCE HAS THREE

DOWNTOWN

BUSINESS OWNERS ON OUR BOARD
OF
DIRECTORS.

WHEN I STARTED A FEW YEARS AGO
WE DID NOT HAVE ONE.

THAT COLLABORATION IS
TAKING
PLACE WITHIN THE CHAMBER NOW.

WE HAVE ANDREA, TODD FROM
SPRINT

AND OUR NEW PRESIDENT IS
MOLINA
MOORE OVER THE BLISS SPA.

THESE PEOPLE ARE INVESTED
IN
IMPROVING THE DOWNTOWN.

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THINK OF THE ORGANIZATION
AS,
LIKE, A LIBRARY.

IT'S A LIBRARY, BUT IT'S NOT

BOOKS, IT'S PEOPLE, WHO ARE
ALL

EXPERIENCED IN MAIN
STREET
DOWNTOWN ISSUES.

SO WE BASICALLY HAVE OUR
OWN
ISSUES.

WE GO TO THEIR LIBRARY AND
WE CAN

GET THE INFORMATION THAT
WE

NEED TO BE ABLE TO

IMPLEMENT

THINGS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO
RE-WRITE SOMETHING.

THAT'S THE THING THAT

IMPRESSED

ME THE MOST IS THEY ARE
A

PLETHORA OF PEOPLE THAT CAN
SAY

WE HAVE
THIS ISSUE.

THEY HAVE SEEN IT AND THEY
HAVE

DONE IT

AND HAVE BEEN THROUGH IT

AND THEY HAVE THE

SPECIALISTS

THAT WILL HELP US, PUT US IN
A

DIRECTION SO WE CAN DO

SOMETHING
WITH THE BARLOW.

IS THERE AN ADDITIONAL COSTS?

SAY YOU ARE A MEMBER AND
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YOU

WANT TO REACH OUT WITH THIS

QUESTION, AND WE WILL
NEED

SOMEBODY TO REACH OUT WITH A
QUESTION, RIGHT?
DOES IT COST MORE?

YOU HAVE A QUESTION, AND
YOU

WILL REACH FOR THIS

DEPARTMENT

AND IS THAT ANOTHER
CHARGE?

NO, IT'S NOT, BECAUSE IT'S
A

NATIONAL ORGANIZATION

SO THEY

DO -- THEIR ORGANIZATION IS
SO

HUGE THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO
DO
THAT.

SO IT WOULD BE BASICALLY, LIKE I

SAID, AN EXCELLENT LIBRARY FOR
A
SMALL TOWN LIKE OURS.

WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE

I THINK
IT'S PERFECT.

WE'RE HISTORIC.

WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS
GOING
FOR US, OBVIOUSLY.

I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO

PROMOTE
SUPER SATURDAY FOR AT LEAST 13
YEARS NOW.

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I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO

SUPPORT

THE DOWNTOWN -- IT'S THE
53rd

ACTUAL SIDEWALK SALE,
AND I

DON'T THINK PEOPLE EVEN REALIZE
THAT.

I DON'T SEE THE APPLE

FESTIVAL
SAYING THAT'S A FUNDRAISER.

SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE

DONE, AND I KNOW

AT THIS POINT I
NEED HELP.

FORTUNATELY, THE ONLY
ONE

HELPING NOW HELPING WITH
THE

TRANSITION DOWNTOWN, SIMPLY

BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE
EITHER

DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEIR TIME
OR

THEY ARE BUSY AND

I UNDERSTAND

ALL THAT, AND I THOUGHT IT
WAS SO

IMPORTANT, BECAUSE --

NOW TO MY RIGHT.

A QUESTION AND THEN
A
COMMENT.

SO YOU ARE SAYING THE

CHAMBER/DOWNTOWN IS GOING TO

JOIN THIS
ORGANIZATION?
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YES.

OKAY.

SO YOU ARE NOT ASKING
FOR

FINANCIAL SUPPORT, YOU ARE JUST

KIND OF PRESENTING TO US --

IT WOULD BE NICE, BUT, NO.

WE HOPEFULLY CAN ONCE WE
LOOK

AT OUR BUDGET CAN SEE
ABOUT
BUDGETING FOR THAT.

YEAH.

THEN, JUST A POINT OF

HISTORY

THAT THE DOWNTOWN

ASSOCIATION

DID BELONG TO THE

ORGANIZATION,

AND I ATTENDED A CONFERENCE
BACK

IN PALM SPRINGS BACK IN
THE
EARLY '90s.

IT'S JUST KIND OF COMING

BACK TO
THE ROOTS.

I WILL SAY MY OWN PERSONAL

EXPERIENCE IS THE MOST

BENEFICIAL PART OF THAT

IS THAT

THOSE OF US THAT CAME
TO

SEBASTOPOL DOWNTOWN AND
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WENT TO

THE CONFERENCE LIKE YOU TWO
DID

IN PALM SPRINGS AND THEN
CAME

BACK WITH ALL THAT

EXCITEMENT

AND IDEAS, SO IF YOU CAN GET THE

PEOPLE INVOLVED -- WE PAID FOR

IT OURSELVES, AND OF COURSE
THE

MEMBERSHIP WAS COVERED BY
THE
DOWNTOWN.

ANYWAY.

I THINK THAT WILL BE
REALLY

POSSIBLE AT THIS TIME,

BECAUSE,

LIKE I SAID, I'M LISTENING
TO
PORCHFEST.

I'M LISTENING TO PEOPLE
THAT

WANT THESE THINGS TO

HAPPEN AND

THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE THEY
CAN

COLLABORATE OR A PLACE WITH

RESOURCES, SO WITH

PORCHFEST,

ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY PULLED
OUT

AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE AT THE
CENTER OF THE ARTS.

IF THE ORGANIZATION FOR THE MAIN

STREET HAD KNOWN ABOUT IT,
WE

MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
HELP
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WITH THAT.

ANY ORGANIZATION WITHIN

SEBASTOPOL THAT MAYBE WANTS TO

MAKE MORE MUSIC OR TAKE THE

THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT
THAT

WE ALREADYALREADY HERE, AND I

MENTIONED THE SIDEWALK SALE,
AND

I MENTIONED THE SIDEWALK SALE --

WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE WE HAVE

GOING?

ANYWAY, THE MUSIC, THEY HAVE
ALL

OF THESE THINGS, BUT THIS
WOULD

HELP BRING IT ALTOGETHER
SO WE
ARE NOT DIFFERENT ARMS DOING IT.

WE ARE ALL VERY BUSY, AND THIS,

TO ME, AS A BUSINESS PERSON,
AND
I HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 40

YEARS, MAKES THE MOST SENSE

BECAUSE TRYING TO RE-INVENT THE

WHEEL CONSTANTLY IS JUST --

IT'S -- IT'S A WASTE OF TIME
AND
WE HAVE A LOT TO DO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

ACTUALLY, LET'S GET TO
COUNCILMEMBER CARTER FIRST.

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ALL I SIMPLY WANT TO
SAY IS

THAT I'M GLAD YOU HAVE COME WITH

THIS RESOURCE HERE TO TELL
US
ABOUT IT.

WE, AS GOVERNMENT, SHOULD
BE

EMPOWERING DOWNTOWN TO DO
ITS

THING AND NOT DO IT FOR
DOWNTOWN.

BUT WE WANT TO CREATE THE
SPACE

THAT ENABLES YOU TO DO YOUR
THING, RIGHT?

I'M REALLY GLAD YOU ARE
NOT
GOING TO RE-CREATE THE WHEEL.

THERE'S SO MANY RESOURCES OUT
THERE, IT'S RIDICULOUS.

HAS COUNCILMEMBER HINTON
SAID,

THIS HAS BEEN AROUND

QUITE A

WHILE AND PEOPLE

UNDERSTAND OUR
SITUATION VERY WELL.

MAYBE WHAT I CAN ASK YOU

GUYS TO

DO IS KIND OF ORGANIZE,
LIKE,

HOW WE CAN HELP
YOU.

THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA

TONIGHT IS BUSINESS --

ECONOMIC
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GARDENING FOR THE CITY,
AND

THAT'S WHERE, YOU
KNOW,

HOPEFULLY AT THAT POINT YOU'LL

HAVE SOME OF YOUR IDEAS MORE

FORMULATED, NEEDS,

REQUESTS,

THINGS LIKE THAT, SO WE CAN
HELP
DRIVE MOMENTUM.

I'M STARTING TO SEE A
LITTLE
MORE MOMENTUM DOWNTOWN.

ALL IT TAKES IS JUST A
LITTLE

FRICTION FROM PEOPLE, JUST NOT

LIKE, IT'S JUST ANOTHER
TABLE

PLAN AND WE'RE NOT
DOING
ANYTHING.

ONCE YOU START SEEING

RESULTS,

IT GETS BETTER, AND WE'RE AT
THE

PLACE AND SEBASTOPOL IS AT
THE

PLACE WHERE WE ARE SEEING
A

LITTLE MORE INCREMENTAL

MOMENTUM, AND ANYTHING

YOU CAN

DO TO GATHER WHAT WE CAN DO
BY
THAT POINT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

YEAH, AND I THINK ONE OF
THE

FIRST THINGS WE NEED TO DO
IS
REACH OUT TO, LIKE, PORCHFEST.

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WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO

PORCHFEST AND THE OTHER

ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S

WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE

STRENGTH IN NUMBERS AND
THAT'S

WHERE I CAN FIND OUT MORE

INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S
NEEDED

AND PRESENT IT TO YOU
GUYS.

THIS IS, LIKE, IN THE
VERY
BEGINNING STAGES.

APPRECIATE THAT.

BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER MAURER.

I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION.

I WAS JUST CONFUSED.

YOU SAID -- I WANT TO

CLARIFY

THIS THING ABOUT WHEN
THERE

WASN'T A LOT OF PARKING,
THEN
THE BUSINESSES DID BETTER.

I WAS CONFUSED BY THAT.

WHAT I MEANT IS IF
WE GO

THROUGH A TOWN AND THERE WERE
VERY

FEW CARS --
UH-HUH.

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SO THEREFORE THERE WAS A
LOT

OF PARKING FOR
US --
UH-HUH.

THE TOWN WAS DEAD.

IT WAS LIKE A GHOST
TOWN.

WAS THAT A COMMENT ABOUT OUR

PARKING SITUATION?

NO, I HAVE BEEN

TRYING TO

EXPLAIN TO MERCHANTS AND

OTHERS,

IT'S A CHALLENGE TO ANY CITY
FOR
PARKING, AND IT'S IRRITATING.

THERE'S NOT ONE CITY

THAT DOES

WELL THAT DOESN'T HAVE
ISSUES

WITH PARKING, SO I KIND OF
WANT

TO GET THAT OFF THE TABLE
AT
SOME POINT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU
THE

OPPORTUNITY TO TELL US THE
DATE

FOR THE SIDEWALK SALE AND
THE
DATE FOR THE MOVIE NIGHT.

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YEAH, THAT IS GOING TO BE
THE
WEEKEND OF JULY 26th AND 27th.

AND ON THE SIDEWALK SALE

WEEKEND ON SATURDAY WE'LL
HAVE

LIVE MUSIC IN THE PLAZA
WITH

SCHOOL OF ROCK, WHICH IS A LOCAL
KIDS BAND YOU PROBABLY HEARD OF.

THEY DRAW IN -- MOST OF
THESE

KIDS GO TO SCHOOLS ALL OVER
THE

COUNTY SO PEOPLE COME FROM
ALL
OVER TO WATCH THESE KIDS.

I GUESS WE ARE

GETTING

COMMENTS ABOUT --

SO SATURDAY THE 26th,
LIVE

MUSIC IN THE PLAZA, AND WE WILL

HAVE BEER AND WINE FOR SALE FROM
3:00 TO 5:00 IN THE

AFTERNOON,

AND WE ARE ENCOURAGING

EVERYBODY

TO COME OUT AND SHOP LOCALLY
AND

STOP IN THE PLAZA AND ENJOY
MUSIC, HAVE A GLASS OF WINE.

MOVIE NIGHT IS AUGUST 2nd.

THAT'S A SATURDAY ON THE LITTLE
LEAGUE FIELD.

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THIS IS OUR THIRD ANNUAL.

WE WILL HAVE SCHOOL --
NOT

SCHOOL OF ROCK, BUT WE
ARE

PLAYING RATATOUILLE, AND IT'S
ABOUT A RAT THAT IS A CHEF.

MOVIE NIGHTS HAVE
BEEN
INCREASINGLY A NICE SUCCESS.

WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP IT

FREE TO

THE COMMUNITY THROUGH OUR

SPONSORSHIPS AND THE
RIALTO

PROVIDES POPCORN AND IT'S
NICE

TO TAKE CARE OF THE TOWN AND
OUR
COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND IT'S FUN.

GREAT.

I WANT TO ADD ONE MORE
THING

WITH REGARD TO
THESE
IMPROVEMENTS.

I THINK -- I KNOW THERE ARE A

LOT OF INITIATIVES AND A LOT OF

GROUPS OPERATING SEPARATELY
WITH

INTENTIONS OF IMPROVEMENT
IN

DIFFERENT WAYS, WHETHER IT'S
THE

PARK BIKE PATHS OR

IMPROVEMENTS,

AND I HAVE BEEN THE
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DIRECTOR OF

THE CHAMBER FOR ALMOST
THREE

YEARS NOW, AND ONE OF THE
THINGS

I HAVE HEARD

REPEATEDLY,

DISCUSSED REPEATEDLY AND I
JUST

HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVEMENT
YET
IS THE DOWNTOWN AND THE PLAZA.

WHAT CAN WE DO?

THERE ARE LONG-TERM PLANS
THAT

HAVE TO HAPPEN, BUT MY

THOUGHT
IS WHAT CAN WE DO RIGHT NOW?

I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANOTHER
SHOP
CLOSE DOWN ON MAIN STREET.

EVEN THE SMALLEST THINGS,
LIKE

ONE OF THE TOWNS WE WENT

THROUGH, EVERY SHOP HAD
A

LITTLE -- NICE LITTLE
FLOWER

BASKET IN FRONT OF IT AND HOW

HARD WOULD SOMETHING LIKE
THAT

BE TO JUST TAKE ONE STEP

TOWARDS

MAKING IT LOOK A LITTLE MORE

LOVED.

WE ALREADY HAVE SOMEBODY

WILLING TO
DO THAT.

WE DO.

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I'LL WATER THEM.

GREAT.

THERE YOU GO.

IF THERE ARE NO MORE

QUESTIONS,
WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

YOU GUYS CAN GO AHEAD
AND
TAKE A SEAT.

THANK YOU.

SO THIS IS PUBLIC

COMMENT ON

THE PRESENTATION FROM

THE MAIN
STREET PROGRAM.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A

COMMENT ON THIS INFORMATIONAL

ITEM, I WILL GO INTO

CHAMBERS
FIRST.

WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO
MAKE A
PUBLIC COMMENT?
SEEING NONE.

I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

ROBERT, CAN YOU UNMOOT MUTE
YOURSELF, PLEASE.

THIS
IS TERRIFIC.

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I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING
FOR

SOMETHING TO MAKE DOWNTOWN
OR

THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WORK

BETTER, AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING

ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THIS AND
IT'S

A TERRIFIC MOVEMENT AND I HOPE
IT KEEPS GOING.

I WOULD ADD TO THE

DISCUSSION,

NOT ONLY THE GOAL OF A MORE

VIBRANT COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO
ONE

THAT IS FISCALLY HEALTHY,
WHICH

MEANS AS THESE

ACTIVITIES ARE

TAKING PLACE, WE ARE

THINKING

ABOUT HOW DO WE INCREASE
SALES

TAX REVENUE, AND I HATE TO TAKE

IT BACK TO THE NUMBERS
BUT AT

THE END OF THE DAY IF WE CAN'T

GROW SALES TAX FASTER THAN

INFLATION, IT CAN'T SURVIVE
AND

THERE HAS TO BE A RELATIONSHIP

THERE, AND THE KINDS OF THINGS

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

HAVEHAVE
CHANCE OF MAKING IT BETTER.

IT CAN'T JUST BE THE BUSINESS

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COMMUNITY.

IT HAS TO BE THE CITY.

THEY HAVE TO BE LINKED IN A
WAY

WHERE IF SOMETHING LIKE

PORCHFEST COMES UP AND THERE
ARE

ISSUES, MARY KNOWS WHO TO
CALL

IN THE GROUP OF CITY PEOPLE
THAT

WANT TO TAKE ON A PROBLEM LIKE

THAT, AND SAY, GO TALK TO THESE
PEOPLE, THEY CAN HELP YOU.

BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOMEBODY TO

TALK TO AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN

UP UNTIL NOW AS FAR AS I CAN
TELL.

THERE WAS A GREAT

DISCUSSION
ABOUT IMPROVING THE TRASH CANS.

THERE'S ALSO A PROBLEM WITH THE CITY.

I GO TO A LOT OF SMALL
CITIES

AROUND THIS COUNTRY AND ALL
OF

THEM HAVE BETTER SIGNS THAN
WE
DO.

WHERE IS THE PARKING?
WHERE IS THE FOOD?
WHERE IS THE SHOPPING?
IT'S
AWFUL HERE.

IN PROMOTION, I AM ABOUT
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A

THOUSAND YARDS RIGHT NOW FROM
A
TOURISTS FOR SURE DISPLAY.

EVERY TOWN IN THE COUNTY HAS A

BROCHURE IN THAT DISPLAY EXCEPT

SEBASTOPOL, AND THAT'S A

COMMERCE RESPONSIBILITY.

THANK YOU.

I WILL COME BACK IN

CHAMBERS,

IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT
WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT?

SEEING NONE, GOING BACK OUT TO

ZOOM.

KATE, CAN YOU UNPHAOUT MUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES.

I HAVE A FEW SUGGESTIONS.

ONE IS TO USE A SURVEY
MONEY

SURVEY FOR YOUR BUSINESS

OWNERS,

WHICH WOULD BE A QUICK

AND EASY

WAY TO OLICIT WHAT

BUSINESS
OWNERS

THRIVE, AND THEY CAN DO

IT ONLINE SO IT DOESN'T TAKE
MUCH OF THEIR TIME.

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AND THE SECOND THING, I AM

EXCITED TO

SEE THERE'S SOMETHING

TO CONNECTION MAIN STREET TO THE

BARLOW, AND THAT CONNECTION

MIGHT HAPPEN THROUGH THE
PLAZA

AND I AM WONDERING IF THAT COULD

BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPRUCE
UP

THE PLAZA WITH NEW BENCHES AND
PLANTING.

AND THEN THE THIRD THING
IN

RELATION TO WHAT ROBERT
WAS

TALKING ABOUT, I THINK

IT WOULD

BE GREAT IF THE COUNCIL
AND

MARIAH AND ANDREA WALKED UP
AND

DOWN THE STREETS AND LOOKED
AT

WHERE THERE'S DUPLICATE

SIGNAGE

AND MAYBE REMOVE DUPLICATE

SIGNAGE TO REMOVE VISUAL

CLUTTER.

ALSO, LOOK AT ALL THE POLES,
THE

LIGHT POLES AND UTILITY
POLES

AND TRY TO SEE IF THERE'S A
WAY

TO CLEAN THEM UP SO THEY ARE
NOT

JUST COVERED WITH GRAFFITI ALL

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THE TIME.

THEN I'M WONDERING IF THERE
ARE

WAYS THAT BUSINESS OWNERS OR
THE

CITY OR THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS

CAN GET TOGETHER TO THINK
ABOUT

THE RITE

AID SPACE THAT WILL

SOON BE VACANT BECAUSE IT'S
A
HUGE LOT IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN.

I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE

PROACTIVE ABOUT THAT
SPACE,

OTHERWISE IT WILL BECOME AN

ENCAMPMENT AND CAN BECOME A

PLACE FOR BAD ACTORS AND
PEOPLE

TO HANG OUT THERE WITHOUT ANY

SORT OF -- YOU KNOW, IF
THE

LANDLORDS DON'T GIVE

PERMISSION

TO THE POLICE, THEY WON'T BE
ABLE TO GO ON TO THE LOT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KATE, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

OLIVER, CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF,
PLEASE?

CAN YOU SEE THE
TIMER?
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YEAH.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT.

THANK YOU, MARIAH, AND THE
OTHER
LADY, ANDREA.

REALLY GOOD.

THERE'S ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT

HERE, AND YOU SEE THIS
IN SAN

FRANCISCO A LOT, WHEN THERE
ARE

NOT MANY BUSINESSES OPEN,

UNFORTUNATELY YOU TEND TO GET A

LOT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE
MOVING

INTO THOSE SPACES, WHICH IS
WHAT
IS HAPPENING IN SEBASTOPOL.

ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO

REVITALIZE

THE PLAZA, WHICH IS WHAT YOU
ARE

RECOMMENDING, I THINK IS A
GOOD
THING.

THAT BASICALLY SHOWS THAT
THE

SPACE IS BEING USED AND
AS

PEOPLE DRIVE PAST THEY
SEE

THERE'S ACTUALLY ACTIVITY GOING

ON, NOT FROM DRUNK
PEOPLE

PLAYING FRISBEE AND SMOKING
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WEED, WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE
BEEN COMMON ENTING ON.

SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT

EUREKA, AND THE IDEA OF
HAVING

AUDIO AND VISUAL

PRESENTATIONS
IS IMPORTANT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE

WONDERFUL TO

HAVE A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
IOSK
IN THE PLAZA.

MANY ARE WONDERING INTO
THE
DOWNTOWN AREA.

IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO
HAVE

SIGNAGE POINTING TO WHERE THE

CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS IN THE
CITY.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

ANYWAY, GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK IN

CHAMBERS IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN
CHAMBERS?

HI, THERE, MY NAME IS
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BILL

AND I'M -- I WORK WITH HOT MONK

TAVERN AND ALSO ON THE

CHAMBER
BOARD.

I WAS ACTUALLY BORN AND
RAISED
IN EUREKA.

I WAS -- IT'S SO DEPRESSED UP

THERE, AND I VISITED, OH,
MAYBE

TWO MONTHS AGO, AND WHAT
THEY

HAVE DONE WITH THE DOWNTOWN

AREA, ESPECIALLY THE OLD
TOWN
AREA
IS PHENOMENAL.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

THEY ARE REALLY --

THEY'RE

BUILDING ON THAT OLD TOWN FEEL,
YOU KNOW.

WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL
LITTLE

DOWNTOWN HERE, TOO, THAT
HAS
THAT OLD TOWN FEEL.

YOU KNOW, YOU PUT THOSE FLOWERS

OUT THAT THEY ARE TALKING
ABOUT

AND THAT JUST LIFTS THE WHOLE

SPACE.

THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING

ABOUT CONNECTING THE BARLOW
WITH
DOWNTOWN.

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THAT'S GREAT.

IF WE COULD PUT A LITTLE
TRAIL

OVER TO HOT MONK, TOO,
THAT

WOULD BE AWESOME, BECAUSE WE'RE

JUST KIND OF -- WE'RE OFF OF

DOWNTOWN,

ACTUALLY, JUST A BLOCK

OFF BUT THAT'S A LONG WAYS WHEN

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
FOOT
TRAFFIC.

ANYWAY, I WHOLLY SUPPORT THIS.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE FUN.

I THINK IT WILL BRING A LOT
TO
THE CITY.

AND ANY OTHER SUPPORT WE CAN
GET

FROM THE COUNCIL WOULD BE
AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, BILL, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I GO OUT TO ZOOM.

MICHAEL, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?
YES.

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CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES, I CAN.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT
MARIAH AND ANDREA.

IT'S NOT EASY TO GET EVERYBODY

TOGETHER IN THE DOWNTOWN, SO
I

JUST WANT

TO SUPPORT THEIR
EFFORTS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MICHAEL, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN

CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC
COMMENT ON THIS ITEM?
I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM.

LINDA, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?

I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE THE

REMARK, I NEED TO GO TO THE

CHAMBER OF COMMERCE

BUILDINGS

BECAUSE I DID NOT REALIZE
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THEY

WERE SELLING SEBASTOPOL
T-SHIRTS.

MAYBE THIS KIND OF STUFF SHOULD
BE MAYBE ADVERTISED SOMEWHERE?

THANK YOU, LINDA, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN

CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC
COMMENT?

SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT
IS
CLOSED.

THANK YOU, MARY.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS

OR DISCUSSIONS FROM MY

COLLEAGUES
BEFORE WE GO FORWARD.

JUST A QUESTION OF
STAFF,

COULD WE DISCUSS THE IDEA
OF

FUNDING THIS NOW, OR DOES
THIS

NEED TO

COME BACK AT ANOTHER
DATE FOR FUNDING?

IT WOULD NEED TO COME
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BACK,

BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON
THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

YOU CAN PROVIDE YOUR
ACTION

TO STAFF TO BRING THIS
ITEM
BACK.

WELL, I WOULD DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, I FEEL I'M
REALLY

GRATEFUL THAT YOU BROUGHT
THIS
HERE TONIGHT.

I WOULD, AS LONG AS I GET
A

SECOND HERE, TO BRING IT BACK

FOR THE IDEA OF FUNDING, A
ONE-YEAR MEMBERSHIP.

YEAH, YOU CAN DO A

GENERAL

CONSENSUS AND COUNCIL

CONSIDERATION, AND THERE IS NO

MOTION BUT IT WOULD BE
A

DIRECTION FROM STAFF IF THERE'S
CONSENSUS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

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YES.

YEP.

YES.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT

TALKING

ABOUT IT OR MAKING COMMENT AT

THIS POINT, IT WILL COME
BACK?

YEAH, THE REQUEST FOR
THE
MEMBERSHIP.

IT'S FINE TO COME BACK.

WITH THAT, IS THERE

MOVEMENT

TO SEND IT TO BUDGET

COMMITTEE

TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE
OKAY

WITH WHATEVER THE AMOUNT WAS,
$600, OR IS THAT TOO MUCH
DIRECTION?
I DON'T KNOW, ALEX.
[ INAUDIBLE ].

THE DIRECTION AS PARTPART --

TO SEND

IT THROUGH THE BUDGET

COMMITTEE IF THAT'S WHAT THE

COUNCIL WANTS, THAT COULD BE
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THE
DIRECTION.

YES, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

I AM KIND OF CURIOUS, IF
WE

ALREADY HAVE THE MONEY, IF
WE

COULD JUST ALLOCATE IT --

IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA

TONIGHT, SO TO DISCUSS FUNDING

THAT, THAT WOULD NEED TO
COME

BACK AND CITY STAFF CAN
REVIEW

IT TO SEE WHAT ACCOUNT WE
WANT
TO PULL IT FROM.

IT'S A MINOR AMOUNT AND I DON'T

HAVE THE SPECIFICS YET AND
I

HAVE HEARD THE AMOUNT CAN
RANGE
FROM 300 TO
600.

SURE.

IF IT'S COUNCIL'S DIRECTION

TO BRING IT BACK, WE WILL
BRING
IT BACK.

COUNCILMEMBER
MAURER?
I BELIEVE WE HAVE MAYBE 3900
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ABOVE, AND THE MONEY IS THERE

AND WE STILL HAVE A BALANCED

BUDGET.

SOUNDS RIGHT.

I HAVE A QUESTION, FIRST OF

ALL, THE BUDGET COMMITTEE --

WE'RE UP HERE AS A FULL

COUNCIL,

RIGHT, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO
FOLLOW PROTOCOL.

AND NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE TO
LOOK

AT THIS WITHIN ALL
OUR
ORGANIZATIONS AND ENTIRE BUDGET.

I APPRECIATE THE

PRESENTATION

BUT I'M NOT WILLING TO PULL
THE

TRIGGER ON THIS TONIGHT, SO
IT'S

FINE TO BRING THE AGENDA
ITEM

BACK AS
PROTOCOL.

THANKS.

WE WILL RECEIVE AND FILE.

THANK YOU TO THE PRESENTERS
FOR

BRINGING THAT FORTH AND
BEING

HERE AND PREPB SENTING AND FIELDING
QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

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NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO
AGENDA
ITEM NUMBER 7, THE

CONTINUED
ITEM FROM JULY 1st WHICH IS THE

LIBRARY STAFF AND

COMMITTEES,

AND IT'S TO RECEIVE THE
REPORT

FROM AD HOC COMMITTEE
AND

DISCUSS THE RECOMMENDED

ACTIONS
IN THE REPORT.

THE RECOMMENDATIONS

RECEIVE

REPORT FROM CURRENT AD
HOC

COMMITTEE, DISILLUSION OF THE

CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEE,
AND
CREATION OF THE NEW COMMITTEE.

THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE --
THE

RECOMMENDATION IS THE BUILDING

FOR THE COMMONS FOR JULY 21,
2005, TO JUNE 30th, 2026,
AND

THE COMMITTEE COMPOSITION AND

OPPONENT TO BE RETURNED FOR

CONSIDERATION.

AND THE FISCAL IMPACT, AND

HOWEVER STAFF TIME WILL BE

REQUIRED, AND SO ARE
THERE

QUESTIONS FROM ALEX -- I
THINK

TO MY LEFT BEFORE WE GO OUT TO
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PUBLIC COMMENT,

COUNCILMEMBER
CARTER?

I DON'T REALLY -- NO,

I DON'T
HAVE A
COMMENT PFP .

I SUPPORT THIS BUT NOT SURE
WHAT
TO SAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM
MY

COLLEAGUES BEFORE WE GO OUT
TO
PUBLIC COMMENT?
NO.

MARY?

THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE

STAFFING FACILITIES AD
HOC
REPORT OUT.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS?

I'M ON THE AD HOC WITH

STEPHEN, AND I AM
THE

REPRESENTATIVE TO THE LIBRARY
COMMISSION.

YOU HAVE GOTTEN A LOT
OF
INFORMATION FROM US.

SARAH AND I HAVE

WRITTEN
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LETTERS.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE A

MOMENT TO

THANK YOU FOR READING THROUGH
EVERYTHING.

I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT OF YOUR

TIME AND

IT'S -- IT'S
APPRECIATED.

AND I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO AS

SOON AS WE GET WORDWORD
START
WORKING ON THIS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

LINDA, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF?

I MISUNDERSTOOD AND I THOUGHT

I WAS GOING TO GET TO HEAR
LIKE
A SHORT SUMMARY OF THE REPORT.

WILL THE REPORT BE AVAILABLE
ONLINE ANYWHERE?

YEAH, THE AGENDA REPORT IS

AVAILABLE UNDER THE CITY

COUNCIL

MEETING FOR TODAY, FOR

TONIGHT,
ALL AGENDA ITEMS ARE ON THERE.

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THANK YOU, LINDA, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO
ZOOM -- SORRY, CHAMBERS.

SEEING NONE, I WILL GO OUT TO

ZOOM.

KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YEAH,
I CAN.

CAN YOU SEE THE
TIMER?
YEAH,
I CAN.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON THE

LAST COMMENTER'S COMMON ET HERE.

THIS IS A VERY, VERY
RUSHED

AGENDA ITEM WITH VERY LITTLE

ACTUAL PRESENTATION, AND SO
I

JUST WANT THAT TO BE KNOWN

BEFORE WE MOVE INTO COMMENTS
BY

THE COUNCIL FOLLOWING PUBLIC
COMMENT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
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WHILE, YES, WE HAVE GOT AU

AGENDAIZED ITEM ON LINE, AND
THE

LACK OF ACTUAL COMMUNICATION

BY COUNCIL

MEMBERS ON THIS
AGENDA

ITEM PRIOR TO GOING TO
PUBLIC

COMMENT IS TELLING AS WELL
AS

THE LACK OF ACTUAL REPORTING
OUT

TO THE PUBLIC IN A VOCALIZED

MANNER ON THIS AGENDA ITEM
PRIOR

TO GOING TO PUBLIC COMMENT
IS
ALSO TELLING AS WELL.

SO WHAT WE WILL THEN HEAR
NEXT

IS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER PUBLIC

COMMENT?

WILL WE HEAR ROBUST

COMMENTS

AMONG COUNSEL MEMBERS, AND
THAT

WOULD BE WHAT SHOULD BE

HAPPENING PRIOR TO
PUBLIC

COMMENT OR WILL WE SEE A BLANKET

WITH A MOTION AND A SECOND AND
A
PASS WITH LITTLE DEBATE.

EITHER WAY IT SUGGESTS TO
ME

THERE SHOULD BE

GREATER

ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC BOTH

IN THE PRESENTATION OF THE ITEM
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AS WELL AS COUNSEL

MEMBERS

COMMUNICATING WITH THE
PUBLIC

PRIOR TO GOING TO

PUBLICPUBLIC
COMMENT.

THANK YOU, KYLE, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK
IN
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN

CHAMBERS

WITH A PUBLIC COMMENT, SEEING
NONE, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF?
YES.

CAN YOU SEE THE
TIMER?
YES.

GO AHEAD.

WE HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION

BEFORE IN COUNCIL MEETINGS,
AND
I AM LOOKING AT PAGE 14

ONLINE,
NUMBER 7, AND THEY
ARE

TALKINGING ABOUT SEBASTOPOL

COMMONS, A COMMERCIAL

KITCHEN
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AND PUBLIC RESTROOM, AND A

CHARGING CENTER, PARK AND

RIDE, A

TRANSIT STOP AND SHOP
SPACE,

AND YOU ARE SITTING IN
THE

COMMUNITY CENTER NOW, AND
WE HAD

THIS CONVERSATION, I THINK,
LAST

YEAR, OR THIS DISCUSSION THAT
WE
ALREADY HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER.

I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND
WHY

THERE'S THIS KIND OF
ALMOST

OBSESSION WITH CONVERTING
THE
LIBRARY INTO SOMETHING ELSE.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S SMALL, THE
LIBRARY, WHICH IS FAIR ENOUGH.

SEEMS TO ME WE HAVE
CITY

RESOURCES FOR PEOPLE
IN

SEBASTOPOL AND WE HAVE A COUNTY

LIBRARY AND COMMINGLING IT
FROM

A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE IS A
RECIPE

FOR TAXPAYERS TO BE PAYINGPAYING

FOR A COUNTY RESOURCE AND WE

HAVE BEEN DOWN THAT TIME BEFORE

IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, SO
THAT'S
MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT.

THESE THINGS JUST SEEM TO
RUN
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AND RUN REGARDLESS OF WHAT
IS
DISCUSSED AT COUNCIL MEETINGS.

YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE AGAIN

TALKING ABOUT A COMMONS.

WE HAVE ELDERBERRY COMMONS,
AND
NOW A LIBRARY COMMONS.

THERE'S SOMETHING

STRANGE

PHILOSOPHICALLY ABOUT ALL
THIS
AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK
IN

CHAMBERS, IF THERE'S ANYBODY
IN

CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A COMMENT.

SEEING NONE, I WILL GO BACK
OUT TO
ZOOM.

ROBERT, CAN YOU UTE

YOURSELF,
PLEASE.

YES.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES.

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GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I GUESS I PRETTY MUCH AGREE

WITH WHAT EVERYBODY HAS SAID
SO
FAR.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS
IS
ABOUT.

I HAVE READ IT A COUPLE
TIMES

AND THERE'S A LOT OF JARGON
IN
IT.

IT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT AS
A

LIBRARY BUT WHEN YOU READ AROUND

THE SIDES OF IT, IT'S A BUNCH
OF
OTHER STUFF, TOO.

THE OTHER STUFF ISN'T VERY
WELL-DEFINED.

I REMEMBER, I THINK WHEN
THE

MAYOR FIRST STARTED

TALKING

ABOUT THIS AS AN IDEA BEFORE HE

WAS MAYOR, IT WAS THE IDEA OF

BRINGING THE LIBRARY AS A HUB

THAT WOULD BRING SOCIAL

SERVICES

AND HELP ADDRESS OUR HOMELESS

PROBLEM.

THAT DIDN'T GET MUCH

TRACTION,
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BUT I GET THE FEELING
THAT'S
STILL PART OF THIS.

THE SECOND PART OF THIS, THERE'S

A LOT OF WORK, AND THIS
IS

GREAT -- THERE'S FIVE
OTHER

ISSUES IN THE CITY THAT I
WISH

WE HAD THIS MUCH HARD

THINKING

AND ANALYSIS ON, BUT PRACTICALLY

SPEAKING, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO
PUT THIS THING?

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GREAT

SPACES AROUND THAT YOU WILL
LEVEL AND BUILD SUCH A THING.

AND PRACTICALLY

SPEAKING,
THERE'S NOWHERE TO PUT IT.

IS IT REALLY WORTH THE ENERGY
TO
PUT INTO THIS EFFORT?
THAT'S ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
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PUBLIC
COMMENT?

SEEING NONE, I WILL GO BACK
OUT
TO ZOOM.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY ON ZOOM THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC

COMMENT,
RAISE YOUR ND.

SEEING NONE, THIS IS THE
END OF
THE
PUBLIC COMMENT.

IT HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA FORA

WHILE, AND THAT WAS A
HUGE
OVERSIGHT ON MY PART.

IN ESSENCE, THE GROUP HAS SPENT

TWO YEARS TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT

HOW TO GET A BIGGER SPACE AND

WHAT WE LEARNED IN THE TWO
YEARS, WE HEARD, WHY DO WE CARE?
THIS IS A COUNTY PROBLEM.

IT'S A COUNTY LIBRARY.

TO BE CLEAR, THERE'S NO COUNTY
LIBRARY.

IT'S A COUNTY-WIDE SYSTEM,
BUT

EACH CITY IS RESPONSIBLE
FOR

COMING UP WITH THE
SQUARE
FOOTAGE OF THE LIBRARY.

ALL THE COUNTY
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LIBRARY

ADMINISTRATION DOES IS SUPPLY

THE PERSONNEL FOR WHATEVER
SIZE

BUILDING WE AS A MUNICIPALITY

COME UP WITH.

WHERE WE LANDED ON THIS IS
THE

FACT THAT WE DO DEFINITELY
NEED

TO THINK BIGGER AND HAVE
THE

LIBRARY PERHAPS BE A

TENANT OF

THE BUILDING, BUT AS A WHOLE
WE

NEED MORE SPACE FOR THE

LIBRARY,

FOR OUR SENIOR CENTER, FOR
MANY

OTHER ENTITIES THAT HAVE COME

BEFORE THE COUNCIL SAYING
WE
NEED MORE PHYSICAL SPACE.

THIS IS HOW THIS EVOLVES
FROM

JUST A LIBRARY THING TO
A

BIGGER -- WHAT IS NOW BEING
PUT
FORTH AS A COMMONS.

WHERE WE ALSO GOT THIS IDEA
FROM

IS FROM OUR SISTERSISTER IN JAPAN
WHO OUR VICE MAYOR WAS THERE.

THEY ALSO NEEDED A BIGGER
SPACE

FOR THE LIBRARY AND

ASSOCIATED

SERVICES AND THEY PARTNERED
UP
WITH A PRIVATE BOOK ENTITY.

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AND THE CEO IS TRYING TO WORK

WITH THE CITY TO COME UP
WITH

WITH A FACILITY LIKE WHAT IS

BEING PROPOSED AND IF THE

COUNCIL VOTES FOR THE

CREATION

OF THIS, HE WOULD BE WILLING
TO
SIT ON
THERE.

BIGGER PICTURE, THOUGH, WHEN
THE

MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER'S

ASSOCIATION VOTED ON THE TOP

THREE PRIORITIES THAT
ALL

COUNCILMEMBERS WANT TO WORK

WITH, AT LEAST TWO BOARD OF

SUPERVISORS, IT WAS THE
NUMBER
THREE PRIORITY.

IT WAS HOMELESS, MENTAL

HEALTH,

AND THEN EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS

AND THEN COMMON FACILITIES AND

SERVICES.

THIS, IF MY
FELLOW

COUNCILMEMBERS WOULD WANT
TO

ENTERTAIN THIS, THIS WOULD
HELP

WITH OUR COUNTY MOVEMENT
WITH

WHAT WE ARE DEFINING AS FAR
AS

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FACILITIES, WHICH COULD ALSO BE

APPEALING BECAUSE THE

EIFD WITH

THE COUNTY IS STUFF THAT WE ARE
STILL CONTINUING TO EXPLORE.

SO THERE'S THAT PRONG THAT
WE

COULD MEET WITH OUR ONGOING
WORK

ON THE COUNTY LEVEL, BUT TO
MEET

OUR CITY GOALS THAT WE HAVE
AS

INDICATED IN THE STAFF

REPORT,
COMMUNITY VITALITY.

WE JUST HEARD ABOUT
THAT

TONIGHT, ABOUT HOW TO GET
PEOPLE

OUT OF THEIR HOUSES,

INTERMINGLING, HENCE THE

PURPOSE
OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALSO SOMETHING

THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED IN THIS

AS LONG AS AND AS

WELL AS
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THE ONE THING I WANT TO CONVEY

IS, WE ALL WORK, WE DO, AND AT

THE END OF THE DAY, THE

CONCEPT

IS WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING
TO
COME FROM?

I WILL TELL YOU DEFINITIVE
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TEE,

NO OTHER COUNTY AGENCY, CH --

WHATEVER IT'S CALLED NOW,
SCTCA

DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY AND IS

NOT RAISING THE MONEY FOR
US,

AND THEY DO NOT HAVE
AN

ASSOCIATED FOUNDATION THAT
COULD

HELP RAISE MONEY FOR THESE TYPES
OF PROJECTS.

IF ANYBODY KNOWS OF ONE,
PLEASE
EDUCATE ME.

ALSO THIS AGENCY HAS A LOT OF

MONEY, LIKE THE RESERVE
AMOUNT
IS HUGE.

SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT

DOING BETTER

PARTNERSHIP WITH
THE

SONOMA COUNTY

LIBRARY

ADMINISTRATION ITSELF COULD
REAP
BENEFITS FOR US AND US LOCALLY.

I WILL STOP THERE AND APOLOGIZE

TO THE MEMBERS FOR THE
PUBLIC

FOR NOT PUTTING THIS

FORWARD

BEFORE WE WENT TO PUBLIC

COMMENT.

I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THAT
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READING THE AGENDA ITEM,
IT

WILL -- MAYBE THIS IS WHY
WE

DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS IN

THE BEGINNING IS BECAUSE
IT'S

REALLY A TRANSFER FROM
THE

EXISTING LIBRARY AD HOC IN
MY

MIND TO A NEW AD HOC WITH A NEW

VISION, AND WE HAVE

HEARD FROM

THE SENIOR CENTER,

AND THEY HAVE

BEEN IN FRONT OF US, THEY NEED A

BIGGER SPACE, AND IT TALKS ABOUT

PARTNERING POSSIBLY IN
ONE

BIGGER DEVELOPMENT WITH A SENIOR
CENTER.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE
NEW

COMMITTEE WITH THE NEWER UPDATED

MISSION MIGHT BE ABLE
TO

EXPANDED ON THE NEW IDEAS TO
HELP GET THE FUNDING.

THE FIRST PRESENTATION IS
THE
CAPITAL FUNDING.

WE KNOW WE HAVE A NEW

ORGANIZATION AND NEW

FOUNDATION
FOR SEBASTOPOL.

WHO KNOWS?
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I THINK MAYBE THIS COMMITTEE

MIGHT APPLY FOR SOME OF THOSE
FUNDS.

OF COURSE, I'M GOING TO
BE

SUPPORTING IT TONIGHT, BUT
DON'T

ALWAYS HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS UP

FRONT UNTIL WE HEAR FROM THE
PUBLIC.

THANK YOU, MAYOR ZOLLMAN,
FOR

GOING BACK AND GIVING HISTORY
SO
WE CAN EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.

COUNCILMEMBER MAURER?

THANK YOU, IN THREE PLACES
IT

SAYS TO IMPROVE THE SCOPE OF

WORK, AND I'M THINKING IT'S

PROBABLY NUMBER TWO, REQUEST
AND
RECOMMENDATION.

IS THAT THE SCOPE OF WORK?
IT'S PAGE 12 -- IT STARTS ON
PAGE 11 OF 22, SO JUST TO
CLARIFY.

IS THAT WHAT YOU CONSIDER THE
SCOPE OF WORK?

IT'S DEFINITELY A SUGGESTION
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FOR SCOPE OF WORK BECAUSE WHEN

THE COUNCIL AGREED TO

CONTINUE

THIS LIBRARY WORK FOR
THE

ADDITION OF THE FEASIBILITY

STUDY, BUT IN THE COURSE OF ALL

THIS WE LEARNED WHAT

ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE, AND
WE

NEEDED TO DEFINITELY
THINK

THROUGH THINGS MORE, COME
UP

WITH BETTER STRATEGIES, DO
MORE

RESEARCH BEFORE WE COULD

ACTUALLY EVEN TAKE THEM
UP ON

THE LIMITED OFFER TO DODO

FEASIBILITY STUDY, WHICH I
THINK

THEY PRELIMINARY HAD THE OFF
FOR
75,000 FOR THE STUDY, AND
THAT'S

WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS NOT

GOING TO
BE SOMETHING WE COULD AGREE TO.

YES, WHAT SUGGESTED

THERE COULD

BE A SCOPE, BUT THEN, OF COURSE,

MY COLLEAGUES CAN SAY COMPLETELY

DIFFERENT THINGS,

COUNCILMEMBER
MAURER.

I READ THIS REPORT A COUPLE
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TIMES, AND JUST TO BE HONEST,
IT

FEELS VERY OVERWHELMING AND SORT

OF CONFUSING, TO READ THIS
AND

TRY TO GRASP -- YOU KNOW, I GET

IT IN A WAY, BUT I THINK REALLY

WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS

YOU NEED

TO NARROW THE SCOPE, BECAUSE THE

SCOPE IS INCLUDING ALL KINDS
OF

OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN TERMS OF
THE COMMITTEE.

SO SEBASTOPOL CENTER FOR
THE

ARTS, I HAVE NOT HEARD

THEM SAY
THEY NEEDED A NEW BUILDING.

RIGHT NOW THEY ARE RENTING
OR

THEY ARE LEASING THAT

BUILDING

FROM THE COUNTY AND IT'S
A
BEAUTIFUL SPACE FOR THEM.

THE FAITH COMMUNITY,

USUALLY

THEY HAVE ALL THEIR OWN

BUILDINGS, SO IT'S JUST --
IT

SEEMS LIKE IN TERMS OF THE

MEMBERSHIP, THAT SCOPE IS, IN
MY

OPINION, JUST KIND OF ALL
OVER
THE MAP HERE.

I THINK IF YOU NARROWED IT
TO
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JUST THOSE PLACES IN

SEBASTOPOL,

THE LIBRARY, THE SENIOR CENTER

AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER,

PERIOD, WHO REALLY NEED THEIR

BUILDINGS ADDRESSED, SO
THE

COMMUNITY CENTER REALLY NEEDS
A

BUILDING ADDRESSED AND I KNOW
WE

HAVE AN AD HOC

COMMITTEE DEALING

WITH THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT
THAT'S

CRITICAL BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD
IF

THAT BUILDING FLOODS AGAIN, IT
WON'T BE INSURED.

THEN THE LIBRARY IS

TOO SMALL

AND THE SENIOR CENTER IS TOO

SMALL, SO IF YOU NARROWED THE

SCOPE, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE

MORE SENSE TO ME INSTEAD
OF

INCLUDING ALL THESE OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS.

AND THEN I'M NOT SURE AT
THIS

TIME -- IS THE CITY STAFF RIGHT

NOW INVOLVED IN THIS AD HOC

COMMITTEE?

WE HAVE BEEN JUST DOING
IT,

SETTING UP THE MEETINGS AND
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THINGS LIKE THAT BUT NOT
DEEPLY

INVOLVED WITH THE WORK
AT ALL.

OKAY.

SO I WOULD BE CAREFUL WITH, YOU

KNOW, PUTTING CITY STAFF IN

TERMS OF USING UP THEIR TIME

RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE ARE SHORT
STAFFED.

BUT I WOULD ALSO SUPPORT
THIS
DIRECTION BUT LIMIT IT.

BECAUSE THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS
A

COMPLETE RETHINKING ABOUT

MUNICIPAL ASSETS AND THE WAYS
WE

CAN SUPPORT OUR CITY

ORGANIZATIONS IN A
MORE

EFFICIENT MANNER, SO I THINK
TO

ADDRESS COUNCILMEMBER

MAURER'S

ISSUE WITH THE AMOUNT, THE

SCOPE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT

INCLUSIVE JUST IN CASE, SO
IT'S

A LITTLE BIT, LIKE, WE
DON'T
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WANT TO DISCLUDE SOMETHING
IF

THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO

COMBINE RESOURCES OR TO MANAGE

THINGS MORE EFFECTIVELY, SO
I'M
IN FAVOR OF A BROADER SCOPE.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT HAS TO
HAPPEN.

IT'S JUST -- IT'S JUST WE
DON'T

WANT TO LIMIT THE ABILITY
FOR

THE GROUP OR WHATEVER TO

RETHINK

THIS THOROUGHLY AND THROUGH AND
USE
ALL

THE RESOURCES THAT ARE
AVAILABLE TO US.

THANK YOU.

OTHER COMMENTS LOOKING TO MY
RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

IT SAYS HOWEVER STAFF
TIME
WILL BE REQUIRED.

IS THERE A FIRM PROPOSAL OF HOW

MUCH STAFF TIME THE ORGANIZATION
IS LOOKING?

BECAUSE I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT
THAT AS WELL.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO PROMISE
OUR
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STAFF TIME AWAY, AND I WANT
TO

SAY YES BUT SERVE IN THE
WAY

IT'S BEEN SERVING, WHICH IS
THE

MEETING SETUPS UNTIL YOU NARROW
THAT IN.

LOOKS LIKE A QUARTERLY REPORT
IS

SUPPOSED TO COME,

AND THAT WOULD
BE GREAT.

YEAH, OUR AD HOC KNOWS
THE

STAFF'S TIME IS UNDER

PRESSURE,

AND IF IT MOVES FORWARD IT WILL

BE LIMITED TO WHAT MARY

SUGGESTED,

AND SHE CAN WAIT

UNTIL I GET THERE AND THEN CLICK
OFF AND GO TO WORK.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR A MOTION?
I MOVE.

I DON'T KNOW THE WORDS.

CAN I DO THE MOTION FOR
YOU

AND THEN SOMEBODY CAN
SECOND?
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THE MOTION WOULD BE
TO

APPROVE THE FOLLOWING AND
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RECEIVE THE REPORT FROM THE

CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEE, AND

THE CREATION OF A NEWLY NAMED

COMMITTEE FOR THE NAMED

COMMITTEE FOR THE

BUILDING

COMMONS FOR A PERIOD OF
ONE

YEAR, APPROVAL OF THE
BROAD

SCOPE OF WORK THAT HAS BEEN

DISCUSSED, AND THEN THE
FACT

THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS --
THE

COMPOSITION AND OPPONENT WILL BE

RETURNED TO A FUTURE COUNCIL

MEETING FOR
APPROVAL?
SO MOVED.

SECONDED?

MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER
CARTER

AND SECONDED BY MAYOR

ZOLLMAN

FOR THE ACTIONS I JUST

STATED,

AND THE DISSOLUTION OF THE AD

HOC, AND THE APPROVAL OF THE

BROAD SCOPE OF WORK AND
THIS

ITEM WILL

RETURN TO THE FUTURE COUNCIL
MEETING?
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MOTION PASSES 4-1

BEFORE I CALL THE NEXT AGENDA

ITEM, WE HAVE BEEN GOING
FOR
ALMOST TWO HOURS.

IS THERE A REQUEST TO TAKE A
SHORT -- YES.

WE WILL TAKE A RECESS FOR ONLY
FIVE MINUTES, PLEASE, THANK YOU.
[CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING]

LOOKS LIKE EVERY ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES IS BACK, WE'RE GOING TO DO A TECH CHECK. CODY, ARE WE, ARE WE OKAY? OKAY. CODY, ARE WE ALL GOOD? ALL RIGHT. GOOD. CODY, TECH CHECK IS GOOD, MARY, ARE WE OKAY? WE ARE

RESUMING AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS ITEM CONTINUED FROM JULY 1st, 25. CITY COUNCIL MEETING, DISCUSSION OF

AMENDMENTS, AGENDA REVIEW COMMITTEE PROTOCOL, AUTHORITY TO CANCEL

CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, THE REQUESTER IS COUNCILMEMBER HINTON, AND THE FISCAL IMPACT, THERE IS NO FISCAL IMPACT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

SURE. IN ADDITION TO PAGE ONE IS THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE. I

THINK IT'S IRONIC THAT THIS IS THE MEETING THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD, HAD THIS ISSUE NOT COME UP. AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA TONIGHT

AND WE KEEP HAVING A FULL AGENDA, AND I BELIEVE THAT IT CAME UP IN

AGENDA REVIEW, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHERE CANCELED MEETINGS SHOULD TAKE PLACE. BECAUSE, OCCASIONALLY, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE

GOING TO BE ABSENT, AND THEY MIGHT WANT TO MOVE THE MEETING AROUND, AND THIS SHOULD BE DECIDED BY THE FULL COUNCIL. AND WE DID DECIDE THIS ISSUE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND APPROVE OUR CALENDAR. SO, A LOT

OF THESE PROTOCOLS WERE CREATED, AND I DIDN'T REALLY SEE THE IMPACT, AND

I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD REVIEW PROTOCOLS OCCASIONALLY, AS THINGS DO COME UP, THAT'S WHY I REQUESTED THIS AGENDA ITEM. WITHIN THIS AGENDA ITEM, ALSO, I HAD A COUPLE OTHER THINGS TO BE BROUGHT UP. ON PAGE THREE,

IT SAYS, OR SHALL BE SCHEDULED FOR CANCELLATION UPON APPROVAL OF AGENDA REVIEW COMMITTEE. REGULAR MEETINGS. SO, IT'S LISTED THERE IN OUR

PROTOCOLS AGAIN, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TALK TONIGHT ABOUT A CLOSED

SESSION, IT LOOKS LIKE THE WAY I READ THIS I WOULD LIKE THE ATTORNEY'S

ADVICE, I UNDERSTOOD THAT ONLY THE ATTORNEY OR THE MAYOR COULD CALL A CLOSED SESSION. BUT, THE ATTORNEY IS NOT MENTIONED, UNLESS I MISSED SOMETHING ON PAGE FOUR. AND I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT ALSO BEING

ADDED, LIKE IT IN ON THE PROTOCOLS THAT A MAJORITY OF MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL COULD CALL CLOSED SESSION. AND THEN, I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD

CONFUSION ABOUT A PROTOCOL, IF IT'S OKAY TO BRING THIS UP, ON ITEM EIGHT,

WHICH IS, WHEN MOTIONS ARE MADE AND SECONDED, THEN THE PROCEEDS City Council Meeting Packet for Meeting of:

OFFICER MUST CALL FOR A VOTE OF THE BODY WITHOUT DEBATE ON THE MOTION,

AND OCCASIONALLY WE HAVE RUN INTO ISSUES WHERE PEOPLE CALLING MOTION,

AND A SECOND QUICKLY, WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE HAS NOT SPOKEN, AND HASN'T

HAD A CHANCE TO BE RECOGNIZED YET, I DON'T THINK WE'RE FOLLOWING THIS

PROTOCOL AT ALL TIMES, BECAUSE WE SET THIS IN OUR RULES, AND THE ISN'T ALWAYS PRACTICAL. AS I BRING THIS FORTH, I AM ALSO BRINGING THOSE ADDITIONAL THINGS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF, I THOUGHT THIS ITEM WAS JUST THAT ONE PARAGRAPH, COUNCILMEMBER HINTON IS ADDING SEVERAL MORE ITEMS. CAN THAT HAPPEN? AND WE CAN DISCUSS THIS? OR NOT.

ALEX?

WHILE THE AGENDA REPORT ONLY LISTS ARE THAT ONE THING, THE AGENDA IS

THE TITLE AND RECOMMENDATION ABROAD TO DISCUSS CITY COUNCIL

PROTOCOLS, RULES FOR COMICS OF ITS MEETINGS, CIVIL CITY BUSINESS, SO YOU CAN DISCUSS THINGS WITHIN THOSE OTHER PROTOCOLS AS WELL.

OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCILMEMBER HINTON TO WALK US THROUGH

EXACTLY THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK LIKE, PAGE NUMBER AND PARAGRAPH, ET CETERA, SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND.

SURE, AND IT CAME UP ONCE I DID THE FULL REVIEW, SO, AGAIN, REVIEWING THE

FIRST PART IS AT THE BOTTOM OF NUMBER EIGHT,
PAGE NUMBER?
PAGE ONE, THAT'S THE ORIGINAL AGENDA ITEM. IT'S CALLED OUT. THEN, YOU MAY NOTE THAT, LET ME SEE, HERE. THIS ALLOWS I BELIEVE, ANYWAY, THAT'S THE FIRST PART. NUMBER TWO, IS PAGE THREE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST LINE IN THE

REGULAR MEETINGS, IT SAYS, THE REGULAR MEETINGS ARE HELD, AS WE KNOW

THEY'RE HELD, TWICE A MONTH, OR, RIGHT HERE AGAIN, SHALL BE SCHEDULED FOR CANCELLATION UPON APPROVAL OF AGENDA REVIEW COMMITTEE.

SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING WE STRIKE THAT?

I AM SUGGESTING THAT, WE STRIKE THAT, ANY CANCELLATION MEETINGS THAT

AREN'T AN EMERGENCY SHOULD BE ADJUSTED ON THE CALENDAR BY THE FULL COUNCIL.

DO YOU HAVE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FOR THAT OR YOU JUST STRIKING? I THINK WE COULD JUST STRIKE IT. OR THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE COULD BE TAKEN

FROM THIS FIRST ONE, WHEN A MAJORITY OF MEMBERS HAVE AGREED, OR SOMETHING. BUT I THINK WE KNOW WITH THE MAJORITY, COULD CHANGE THE MEETING.

OKAY.

FURTHER QUESTIONS?
SHE HAS MORE.

THEN ON THE VERY BOTTOM PARAGRAPH OF PAGE FOUR, THE WAY I READ IT, I

ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD CLOSED SESSIONS COULD BE CALLED BY BOTH THE MAYOR

AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY, I THINK I LEARNED THAT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY,

ACTUALLY, BUT WHEN I READ THIS I DIDN'T SEE THAT IT COULD BE CALLED BY

THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND I ALSO FEEL LIKE A CLOSED SESSION SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE CALLED BY THE MAJORITY OF COUNCILMEMBERS.

CAN I ADDRESS?

GO FOR IT, SO, THAT'S ACTUALLY IN A DIFFERENT POLICY, THAT'S IN POLICY NUMBER SIX. WHICH IS NOT IN THIS POLICY WHERE IT SAYS CLOSED SESSIONS MAY

BE SCHEDULED BY THE AGENDA REVIEW COMMITTEE IN ACCORDANCE WITH City Council Meeting Packet for Meeting of:

POLICY, ALTERNATELY THE CITY ATTORNEY MAY SCHEDULE CLOSED SESSION. SO, THE LANGUAGE IS IN A DIFFERENT POLICY.

THE LANGUAGE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

CORRECT. SO, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHY, I THINK THAT THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL SHOULD BE ABLE TO CALL FOR A CLOSED SESSION AS WELL. I'M NOT SURE WHY IT NEEDS TO BE ONLY THE MAYOR, OR ONLY THE CITY ATTORNEY. AND BY THE WAY, IS EXCLUDING THE CITY MANAGER. SO, I'M INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT'S VERY LIMITING. AND, THESE POLICIES WERE CREATED

BY THE MAYOR AND THE VICE MAYOR AND PUT FORTH AND CURRENCY THE

POLICY PROTOCOL SUBCOMMITTEE IS ALSO THE CURRENT MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR. TO BE FAIR, I JUST DON'T THINK, AS NOW I'M READING THEM THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY IMPACTED US FOR A WHILE. SO, AND THEN, LASTLY, THE LAST ITEM I'D LIKE TO BRING UP, IS ON PAGE NINE, IT'S UNDER TYPES OF MOTIONS. AND

IT SAYS WHEN THE FOLLOWING MOTIONS ARE MADE AND SECONDED, THE

PRECEDING OFFICER, WHICH IS USUALLY THE MAYOR, MUST IMMEDIATELY CALL FOR A VOTE OF THE BODY WITHOUT DEBATE ON THE MOTION. SO, WE HAVE IN PRACTICE, I THINK STRUGGLED WITH THIS A BIT. I, MYSELF, HAVE FOLLOWED

THESE NEW PROTOCOLS, AND THEN OFFERED HIM A BECAUSE I CAN OFFER AN ALTERNATE MOTION, WHICH THEN GOES FIRST, BEFORE THE MOTION. BUT IT

REALLY, THE WAY THIS IS WORDED, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THIS IS, IF

SOMEBODY JUST OFFERS A MOTION IN SOMEBODY ELSE SECONDS AND SOMEBODY

ELSE OVER HERE IS WAITING TO TRY AND DISCUSS IT, THEN WE'RE REALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO GET CALLED ON. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TOWARDS THE MOTION AND THEN A VOTE.

I JUST WANT TO ASK A QUESTION, TOO, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, IS IN REFERENCE TO THE POLICY, SEVEN. ABOUT THE CANCELLATION OF MEETINGS. SO, ALEX, IS POLICY SEVEN THE ENTIRE PAGE NUMBERS FROM ONE TO 15? I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE NOTICING OF THIS.

YES, POLICY SEVEN IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG EXACTLY, BUT IT IS OVER FIVE PAGES LONG.

OKAY. COULD, OKAY. SO, THERE YOU GO.
13 PLATE PAGES LONG, MARY TELLS ME.

COUNCILMEMBER MAURER?

IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THESE ARE ADDRESSING TYPES OF MOTIONS, NOT JUST A GENERAL MOTION. SO I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

CAN I ASK THE QUESTION? I HAVE UNDERSTOOD, AND WE HAVE STRUGGLED WITH

THIS, SO I'D LIKE TO JUST GET IT CORRECTED, IF SOMEBODY MOVES TOWARDS A

MOTION AND SOMEBODY SECONDS, MANY TIMES WE'VE SEEN NOBODIES FAULT

SOMEBODY IS LOOKING ONE DIRECTION, WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD LIGHT SYSTEM,

THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE WAY I READ THIS IS THEN, I'VE BEEN DIRECTED THAT

IT'S HARD FOR US TO CONTINUE TO MAKE A COMMENT, THAT'S THE WAY I'M

READING IT AND THAT IN PRACTICE HOW WE STRUGGLED WITH THIS, AM I CORRECT?

UNDER OUR POLICIES, CERTAIN MOTIONS, THE TYPES OF MOTIONS, MOTION TO

ADJOURN, MOTION TO RECESS, SO ON AND SO FORTH, THOSE REQUIRE IMMEDIATE BOATS. UNDER POLICY. NOT ALL OF MOTIONS REQUIRE OUR IMMEDIATE VOTE,

CERTAINLY IF THE COUNCIL WANTED FOR SIMPLICITY WE COULD JUST TAKE OUT

THAT REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE IMMEDIATE BOATS FOR ANY MOTION, SO THAT COUNCILMEMBERS MAY ALWAYS OFFER THEIR COMMENTS BEFORE A VOTE.

IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL.

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I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK. WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW? I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

THERE IS NO REASON THE COUNCIL CAN'T MODIFY THEM AS IT WANTS.

I APPRECIATE THIS BECAUSE I ALWAYS ASSUMED THAT YOU COULD RUSH MOTION, SECOND, BUT I LEARNED EARLY ON THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING. BECAUSE

IT'S NOT VERY COURTEOUS, JUST BECAUSE IT SECONDED YOU DON'T NECESSARILY

HAVE TO GET RIGHT TO THE BOAT YOU CAN HAVE TO CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS OR ENTERTAIN PEOPLE,, RIGHT?

SO I'D JUST LIKE TO CLEAN IT UP, I FIGURED SINCE WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS

I LIKE TO CLEAN UP A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS SO THAT WE'RE STRAIGHT ON IT, SOMETIMES IT IS CONFUSING APPEAR, AND I JUST WANT IT TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE.

OKAY. SO, WHAT, SHOULD WE JUST TAKE ABOUT OR SEND IT BACK TO STAFF?

WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, IF WE CAN GET CONSENSUS, WE GO ONE AT A TIME

THEN WE'LL MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND BRING IT BACK AND PUT IT ON CONSENT FOR YOU TO ADOPT.

THAT WOULD BE GOOD. I NEED TO SEE IT ALL BEING PROPOSED, I CAN'T REALLY, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO CONCEPTUALIZE WORDING. YEAH. IS THAT GOOD? I'M SORRY.

YEAH, PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN,
YEAH, ARE WE ALL GOOD BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY, THANK YOU. ARE WE GOOD BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT? MARY, PUBLIC COMMENT?

THANK YOU, MAYOR, THIS IS FOR AGENDA ITEM REGARDING THE PROTOCOLS AND

COUNCIL MEETINGS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT I WILL GO TO CHAMBERS FIRST. SEEING THAT I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO

MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY,

KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE YOU MARK THANK YOU, CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES, I CAN.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I THINK WATCHING THIS COUNCIL OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND TO SEE THE

CHANGES TO PROTOCOLS ALONG THE WAY, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HAVING THIS COUNCIL DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH IN THAT SPACE. IT APPEARS TO ME

THAT SOMETIMES CHANGES IN PROTOCOLS ARE BEING DONE TO SUIT INDIVIDUAL

COUNCILMEMBERS, I'VE SEEN CHANGES TO PROTOCOLS AROUND PUBLIC

COMMENT, I'VE SEEN CHANGES TO PROTOCOLS AROUND THE AGENDA REVIEW,

AND IT'S, IT'S CONCERNING TO ME, THE PACE AT WHICH PROTOCOLS ARE

CHANGING ON COUNCIL OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND HOW, MAYBE, THESE PROTOCOLS ARE NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT OTHER CITIES MAY BE DOING. SO,

I WOULD JUST SUGGEST, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE A

RADICAL CHANGE, DEPARTING FROM ROBERTS RULES REGARDING MOTIONS

SECONDS AND BOATS, WE'VE SEEN SOME PRETTY DRAMATIC CHAOS COMING FROM

THE ELECTION OF MAYORS IN THIS COUNCIL , THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO POLITICIZING THE MOTION, SECOND, CALL TO BOAT PROCESS. SO, AGAIN,

CONCERNED ABOUT PROTOCOLS CHANGING FOR PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL,

COUNCILMEMBERS FAVOR, CHANGES TO MANY OF THESE PROTOCOLS THAT MAY

BE OUTSIDE OF THE NORM OF THE VOLUME OF CHANGES IN A SHORT PERIOD OF

TIME, AND WOULD INVESTIGATE FURTHER BEFORE YOU MAKE LARGE-SCALE DECISIONS.

THANK YOU, KYLE, FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO

CHAMBERS, IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A City Council Meeting Packet for Meeting of:

PUBLIC COMMENT, SEEING NONE, I WILL GO BACK TO ZOOM, IF THERE IS ANYONE

IN ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY, SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

I WILL RESPOND TO THE COMMENTOR IN THE FACT THAT WHEN THE PROTOCOLS

WERE INITIALLY APPROVED BY ALL OF US, I'D HAVE TO SAY MARY DID ALL THE

WORK, I REMEMBER THE AGENDA REPORTS, SHE WENT AND LOOKED AT

CLOVERDALE, SHE WENT ALL OVER THE STATE, COME FORWARD WITH THE DIFFERENT PROSPECTS THAT WE COULD GO THROUGH. SO, I WANT TO PUT IT OUT

TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE DIDN'T WILLY-NILLY COME UP WITH PROTOCOLS, BUT I

ALSO APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER HINTON THAT, YOU PASS THINGS AND THEN

IN THEORY IT CAN GO DIFFERENT WAYS, AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO EXAMINE THINGS. SO, ARE THERE OTHER DISCUSSIONS BEFORE WE END OUR MOTION? COUNCILMEMBER MAURER?

I WOULD SUPPORT THE FIRST EDITOR WAS PROPOSED IN THE STAFF REPORT, I

WOULD SUPPORT THE SECOND EDIT ON PAGE THREE, THE LAST LINE, REGARDING

STRIKE THAT, STARTING WITH THE WORD OR COMMENTS PAGE THREE, AND FOR THE LAST ONE I THINK IT'S MORE COMPLICATED. IS THERE STILL AN AD HOC

POLICY COMMITTEE, AND IF THERE IS I'D LIKE TO SEND IT BACK AND MAYBE COUNCILMEMBER HINTON CAN WORK, ARE YOU ON IT? YOU'RE NOT? AND THERE'S TWO MORE ITEMS IF WE'RE GOING TO SEND IT BACK.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THOSE GET SENT BACK AND RUN BY THE CITY

ATTORNEY SO THAT WE HAVE THE CLEAR, LIKE WE DO ON THE STAFF REPORT, CLEAR EDITS. THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION.

I MEAN, I'LL WEIGH IN, CLEAR EDITS I THINK WOULD BE GOOD, HONESTLY I

THOUGHT WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE FIRST TWO, I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOING THROUGH ALL THE REST OF THIS 15 PAGE POLICY. I MISSED THAT. I WOULD

LIKE TO HAVE IT SENT BACK, TOO, FOR CLEAR EDITS, STRIKEOUT, SUGGESTED WORDING, ALL OF THAT.

IF WE CAN RUN THROUGH THE THREE, FOUR ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, AND

GET THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN IF YOU WANT US TO TAKE THEM, WE'LL TAKE DIRECTION AND COME BACK WITH A REDLINE, SO IT'S CLEAR TO THE COUNCIL.

YOU WANT ME TO STATE THEM AND EVERYBODY CAN THUMB UP, THUMBS DOWN?

OKAY, SO THE ONE IS, AS COUNCILMEMBER MAURER STATED ON PAGE ONE, THAT'S THE LANGUAGE PRESENTED HERE, I THINK I'M FINE WITH AS IT READS TONIGHT.

OKAY.

SURE.

ITEM TWO IS ON PAGE THREE, COUNCILMEMBER MAURER SUGGESTED, AND I

SUGGEST JUST STRIKING, STARTING AT THE, OR SHALL BE SCHEDULED BY AGENDA REVIEW. THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE STAFF REPORT. ITEM TWO. ITEM

THREE, TO GO BACK TO THE PROTOCOLS COMMITTEE, WOULD BE AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE FOUR, AND THAT'S REGARDING WHO CAN CALL A CLOSED SESSION. I

THINK IT'S CONFUSING, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY THE MAYOR OR THE CITY ATTORNEY. AND I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE EXPANDED. AND SHOULD BE

EXPANDED TO POSSIBLY INCLUDE THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL, OR, TO SEND THAT ONE BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, YEAH.

THE FOURTH ITEM IS THIS, HOW WE'VE STUMBLED OVER EACH OTHER IN PAGE

NINE, WHICH SAYS, WHEN MOTIONS ARE MADE AND SECONDED, THE PRECEDING OFFICER MUST IMMEDIATELY CALL FOR A VOTE WITHOUT FURTHER DEBATE. LET ME READ IT, OR COMMENTS. SO THAT, I KNOW WE'VE STRUGGLED ON IT, SO I'D LIKE IT CLARIFIED.

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SURE, I'M HAPPY.

SEND IT BACK.

YEAH, SEND IT BACK. THOSE ARE MY ITEMS.

OKAY, MARY, ARE YOU CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE DOING?
CAN I MAKE ONE SUGGESTION BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION?

IT'S NOT THAT, IT'S, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING BACK THE AGENDA ITEM, I'M SORRY, LET ME MAKE SURE I HAVE THE POLICY RIGHT. COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER SIX, WHICH ADDRESSES THE CLOSED SESSION. THE COUNCIL POLICY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS JUST THE PROCESS OF THE CLOSED SESSION. TWO EXTENDED CAN A LATER HOUR, IT DOESN'T SAY WE CAN START IT. THE OTHER PROTOCOL OR POLICY DOES STATE IT. SO, WE SHOULD BRING THEM BOTH BACK.

I THINK YOU SHOULD, THOUGH STILL ONLY SAY THAT TWO PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO CALL CLOSED SESSION.

I WOULD LIKE AS PART OF THE MOTION THAT THAT POLICY WOULD COME BACK AS WELL.

SURE.

OKAY, YEAH. SURE. OKAY. DOES SOMEONE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? IF NOT, CAN YOU STATE IT AND SOMEBODY CAN MOVE IT? WHAT YOU THINK?

I DON'T THINK WE NEED A FORMAL MOTION OF THIS, COUNCIL CONSENSUS TO RETURN THESE UP ON THE DISCUSSION OF THE CHANGES WE JUST DISCUSSED.

SURE, OKAY, THERE WE GO. THEN WE ARE MOVING ALONG. SO NOW WE'RE ON TO

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, APPROVAL OF ECONOMIC GARDENING PROGRAM

EVENT, THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL IS PROPOSING TO HOST AN ECONOMIC

GARDENING PROGRAM EVENT AIMED AT SUPPORTING THE GROWTH OF HOMEGROWN BUSINESSES. THIS IS BEEN REQUESTED BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER

TO RESPONSIBLE DEPARTMENT IS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, FISCAL IMPACT, $3000 HAS BEEN APPROVED THE FISCAL YEAR 25-26 CITY BUDGET FOR THIS EVENT. AND THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WHICH I GUESS WE ARE GOING TO OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

YES, SO THIS, AGENDA ITEM IS BROUGHT FORWARD BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER,

WHO'S BEEN THE EXPERT, I KNOW HE WAS WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY

DIRECTOR WHO IS OUT RIGHT NOW, I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCILMEMBER CARTER IF

HE WANTS TO PRESENT HIS AGENDA ITEM AS TO WHAT HE'S REQUESTING AND I

BELIEVE HE SPOKE WITH THE CHAMBER ON THIS AS WELL IN THE DOWNTOWN IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

YEAH. BASICALLY THIS IS TO BEGIN A RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY THROUGH A WORKSHOP. SCENARIO. WHERE WE GATHER AT THE

LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT MAY FEEL A LITTLE BIT OUT OF TOUCH WITH US, SO

THAT WE CAN ORGANIZE THROUGH A FACILITATOR WORKSHOP HOW THE CITY CAN BEST HELP THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE THESE TWO

LOVELY PEOPLE FROM THE CITY COME TO US TONIGHT, WITH SOME WAYS TO IMPROVE THE DOWNTOWN AND WE WANT TO EMPOWER THAT. WE NEED TO

FACILITATE THAT, BY HAVING A VENUE WHERE OTHER PEOPLE CAN EXPRESS

THEIR KNOWLEDGE, WISDOM, FEELINGS, WHAT, WHAT'S INHIBITING THEM, HOW THE CITY COUNCIL CAN BEST PROVIDE A WAY FOR THEM TO MOVE ON. WHAT THIS

SPECIFICALLY DOES IS, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT HAS PROVEN LEGS, AND WORKS SINCE THE LATE 90s, TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES THAT ALREADY EXIST. SO WE DON'T

HAVE TO GO OUT FISHING FOR NEW BUSINESSES, ADDING TAXES OR WHATEVER TO

GET SOME BRAND-NEW BUSINESSES IN THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT DO THE CITY

WELL, BUT MOSTLY FOCUS ON THE BUSINESSES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND City Council Meeting Packet for Meeting of:

PROVIDE THEM RESOURCES AND EDUCATION, MENTORSHIP, DATA, AND SUPPLY

THEM A VENUE FOR THEM TO COMMUNICATE, LIKE, OUR WATER BILL IS TOO HIGH, THESE KINDS OF THINGS.

YES, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT

FORWARD, I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL AND WHEN I WAS ON THE CITY SITE, THIS HAS GOT A HUGE PROVEN TRACK RECORD BACK TO THE 1970S. IT WAS, IT'S BEEN

AROUND FOR A WHILE, AND THE DATA IS THERE TO SUBSTANTIATE IT ALL, SO I LOVE IT. IT'S REALLY GREAT, TIED IN WITH OUR EARLIER INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION. WONDERFUL PEOPLE FROM OUR CHAMBER, SO YES, I LOVE IT, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD. COUNCILMEMBER MAURER.

I'M WONDERING, HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM THE MAIN STREET AMERICA PROGRAM? AND HOW WILL, HOW DOES THIS IMPACT OUR STAFF? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ONLY A PART-TIME COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PERSON. HOW DOES IT IMPACT STAFF?

AGAIN, SO, THIS, I'M GOING TO VOLUNTEER MY OWN PERSONAL TIME TO HELP

FACILITATE THIS, BUT, FUNDAMENTALLY, I DON'T, I'M NOT REALLY POSITIVE

WHERE OUR STAFF SITS AS FAR AS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BUT MAYBE WE COULD PUT THIS FURTHER OUT INTO THE FALL. BUT FUNDAMENTALLY IT

SHOULDN'T REQUIRE TOO MUCH STAFF TIME, AS THIS IS MOSTLY JUST A FEEDBACK GATHERING MECHANISM. WITH THE CITY. WITH THE CITY'S BUSINESSES. RUPEE YOUR SECOND QUESTION?
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GATHER THAT FEEDBACK? IS IT GOING TO BE AN ACTUAL EVENT IN A SPACE? SURVEY ?

SO, AS WE PUT FORWARD IN THE BUDGET, AND THE BRAINSTORMING SESSION, THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE MEETING, AND THE $3000 COVERS THE VENUE, ANY ANCILLARY THINGS, HOPEFULLY IT CAN COST LESS THAN $3000, BUT

FUNDAMENTALLY THIS IS FACILITATING A WORKSHOP WITH THE BUSINESSES

THAT EXIST, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT MAIN STREET AMERICA IS, MAIN STREET

AMERICA IS A RESOURCE, AND THIS IS THE VENUE FROM WHICH THE CITY STARTS SUPPORTING BUSINESSES. AND EVENTUALLY, EVENTUALLY, THE GOAL MIGHT BE

TO PROVIDE, THIS WOULD BE THE MECHANISM TO PROVIDE US, BRANDS FOR A

NEW SCIENCE, THE DOWNTOWN SIGNAGE MAY NOT BE THE GREATEST OR SOME

BUSINESSES MAY NEED SOME HELP, WITH THEIR STORM FRONTS OR SOMEONE LIKE

THAT, THE CITY CAN USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, BUT APPROPRIATE $3000 SO WE CAN HELP WITH ONE BUSINESSES SIGN OR SOMETHING THAT THEY MIGHT NEED. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS UNTIL WE WORKSHOP IT.

SO FOR EXAMPLE YOU MIGHT HOST AN INITIAL EVENT HERE, AT THE YOUTH ANNEX, AND INVITE THE BUSINESSES TO COME. OKAY.

AND, WHO WOULD FACILITATE IT?

WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, SO THEY'RE GOING TO

DO HALF OF IT, AT LEAST HALF OF IT, AS FAR AS THE CITY GOES, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TBD. NOT TOTALLY SURE, BUT I'M WILLING TO VOLUNTEER MYSELF.

I DO THINK ONCE WE SCHEDULE THIS EVENT, THAT WORKING WITH THE

CHAMBER, I AGREE, I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER CARTER FOR

A SECOND, I THINK IT GOES WITH MAIN STREET, BUT I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT THE MAIN STREET PROGRAM TO KNOW. SO, THERE IS IS

MORE ABOUT THE COLLABORATION OF EVENTS AND THINGS, IT SOUNDS LIKE, THIS

IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DELVE INTO HELPING BUSINESSES AND WHAT THEY

WANT TO SEE FOR SEBASTOPOL, HOW TO ENCOURAGE LOCAL BUSINESSES, WHAT

OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES NEED TO SUSTAIN AS WELL AS BRINGING IN THE TYPES OF City Council Meeting Packet for Meeting of:

BUSINESSES THAT WE WANT. THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE

EXPERTS IN THIS FACILITATION, SO I THINK WE WOULD FIND SOMETHING WITHIN

THE COMMUNITY THAT KNOWS THE COMMUNITY AND NOT HAVING TO FACILITATE THIS WORKSHOP. STAFF TIME IS GOING TO BE MORE ABOUT TO SET UP THE VENUE,

GET THE INVITATIONS OUT, FOR THE BUSINESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I DON'T

ANTICIPATE A HUGE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME TO DO THIS, AND I WOULD NOT HAVE

OUR CONSULTANTS DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD DO IT STAFF LEVEL.

GREAT. OTHER QUESTIONS? LOOKING TO MY RIGHT, THOUGH, BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER MAURER.

WHICH DEPARTMENT WITH THIS BALL TO, THEN?

IT WOULD FALL TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BUT, SINCE WE HAVE A

CONSULTANT, THAT DEPARTMENT IS NOW FALLING UNDER ME RIGHT NOW SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR ALL OF IT.

ALL THE SCHEDULING WOULD FALL TO YOU.

WE HAVE STAFF. THERE IS ADMINISTERED OF ASSESSMENT THAT I COULD USE TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT, SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT AS WELL. OKAY.

NO OTHER QUESTIONS? I GUESS WE'RE GOING OUT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ECONOMIC GARDENING PROGRAMMING EVENT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT I WILL GO TO CHAMBERS FIRST.

SEEING NONE I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM, ROBERT, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE? THANK YOU. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER? GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I'M OFFERING FREE ADVICE, I THINK WHEN THIS WAS THOUGHT OF BY PHIL, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE CHAMBER'S PROPOSAL. IT DOES SOUND TO ME LIKE THEY SHOULD BE PART OF THE SAME INITIATIVE. TO MAKE THE CITY

BETTER, AND MAYBE PHIL AND MARY SHOULD GO BACK AND HAVE A MEETING

WITH THE CHAMBER PEOPLE THAT WERE PRESENTING EARLIER, AND DISCUSSED

HOW CAN THIS BE PUT TOGETHER IN ONE PACKAGE THAT HAS A PLANETS MOVING US FORWARD? THAT'S MY THOUGHT, THANKS.

THANK YOU, ROBERT, FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL COMMIT TO

CHAMBERS, IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A

PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT CAN MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS FLOAT CLOSE ON THIS ITEM.

BRINGING IT BACK TO THE DAIS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND/OR MOTION, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO OUR CALLER, WHEN THE CHAMBER AND THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION PRESENTED TODAY, MAIN STREET.ORG OR WHATEVER, THIS CAN FIT IN PERFECTLY, THESE, THEY'RE THE SAME THING.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?

WHEN WE APPROVE THIS IN THE BUDGET WE DIDN'T APPROVE A TIME OF YEAR,

AND FOR ME, I REALLY QUESTIONED THAT FALL IS THE RIGHT TIME FOR THIS WITHIN OUR FISCAL BUDGET. CURRENTLY WE HAVE OUR ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT PERSON OUT, WE HAVE CONSULTANTS IN THOSE ROLES, WE HAVE

AN INTERIM CITY MANAGER, WE HAVE A CHAMBER PRESENTATION WE HEARD

TONIGHT ABOUT MAIN STREET, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD ON THAT, WHICH COULD HELP COORDINATE TOGETHER WITH THIS. I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THIS PROJECT MOVED TO SPRING. WHEN WE HAVE OUR

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSON BACK, AND PROBABLY, I'M GLAD MARY IS DOING EVERYTHING FOR US BUT WE HAVE MORE BANDWIDTH. IT FEELS LIKE City Council Meeting Packet for Meeting of:

WE'RE RUSHING THIS. AND I APPRECIATE BEING EXCITED ABOUT IT, I ON ONE HAND

DON'T WANT BUSINESS TO WAIT BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I DON'T WANT TO BITE

OFF MORE THAN WE CAN CHEW WHEN WE ARE SO BUSY AND SO SHORT-STAFFED RIGHT NOW. FEELS LIKE A PROJECT TO PLAN IN SPRING WHEN WE HAVE MORE STAFF TO HELP SPREAD THE LOAD. ALSO STAFF THAT WILL BE WITH US TO HELP IMPLEMENT THIS. EVEN THOUGH I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME, OUR JOB IS TO

MAKE POLICY NOT IMPLEMENTATION, WE NEED TO COUNT ON OUR STAFF TO TAKE IT AND RUN WITH IT. I HATE TO LAUNCH IT AND WE'VE DONE THESE TYPES OF

THINGS BEFORE, WE'VE DONE STUDIES AND WE HAVE NO BANDWIDTH TO FILL THE POSITIONS. I WOULD RATHER WAIT ON THIS TILL SPRING, THAT'S MY FEEDBACK.

I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT TIMING. BUT, COULD WE NOT JUST APPROVE THIS WITH, LIKE, A TIMING OF THE ACTUAL FORUM TVA? OR SHOULD WE JUST NOT CONSIDER THIS AT ALL? I'M TRYING TO GET A WILL OF WHERE MY COLLEAGUES ARE. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?

OF COURSE, CONCILIATORY TO THE AMOUNT OF STAFFING TIME THAT WE HAVE, WE BASICALLY NEED TO INTERACT WITH THE CITY NOW. I THINK IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO ROLL IT OVER. THIS IS MOSTLY INFORMATION FOR THE CITY AND HOW IT CAN WORK. THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO ON THEIR OWN AND BEGIN TO DO THAT, AND I HOPE THAT THEY WILL. BUT IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO

INTERACT NOW, IN THE FALL, IN CHRISTMAS, FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT THE CITY DOES WITH THE DOWNTOWN, IS INFORMATION. I THINK ALL OF THAT IS USEFUL. THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT, MAYBE A FOUR HOUR WORKSHOP TAKES, ISN'T SIGNIFICANT. BUT THE LEARNING THAT OCCURS WITH THAT, THE

RELATIONSHIP THAT WE BUILD WITH OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES, IS INVALUABLE. AND CAN HELP ALL THE WAY THROUGH CHRISTMAS SEASON, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE JUST A SHAME TO PUT IT OFF.

OKAY. FURTHER DISCUSSION?
YES. OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE GOALS SESSION THAT WE HAD ON APRIL 1st, THIS

WAS A UNANIMOUS GOAL, I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE PUSHING IT INTO NEXT YEAR. I THINK HAVING THIS SHOWS OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES THAT

WE'RE HERE FOR THEM, THAT WE CARE, THAT WE WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED. I LIKE THAT, I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT OUR STAFF RIGHT NOW. DO WE HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO IMPLEMENT, OR WHAT WE COULD DO IS

GATHER THE INFORMATION, AND IMPLEMENTED IN TERMS OF OUR GOALS FOR NEXT YEAR. BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ONE WAY TO GATHER INFORMATION, AND MAKE GOALS FOR NEXT YEAR. SO MAYBE, BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU DO A STUDY AND THEN YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T IMPLEMENT IT, AND THE NEEDS CHANGE. SO, I, I

WOULD ALSO HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE IDEA OF A FOUR HOUR WORKSHOP, I GUESS I THINK BUSINESS OWNERS ARE QUITE BUSY. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE

THE BANDWIDTH FOR A FOUR HOUR WORKSHOP, I WOULD THINK MAYBE DO A

COMBINATION OF THINGS, LIKE YOU HAVE A TWO HOUR WORKSHOP, GATHER PEOPLE, LET EVERYBODY TALK, TELL US WHAT YOU NEED. AND PARTNER THAT WITH A SURVEY , PARTNER WITH THE CHAMBER. AND THE DOWNTOWN, TO HELP IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT, HELP IMPLEMENT THE SURVEY. BUT DO IT

MULTIFACETED BECAUSE MAYBE NOT EVERYONE COULD COME BUT THEY BE WILLING TO TAKE A SURVEY. BUT, SOMEHOW DO THOSE COMPLEMENTARY THINGS

BUT DEFINITELY WORK WITH THE CHAMBER AND THE DOWNTOWN, ALTHOUGH THEY MIGHT BE MERGED RIGHT NOW, BUT, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. AND I WOULD SUPPORT IT SOONER. RATHER THAN WAITING.

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I SUPPORT NOT DELAYING THIS, EITHER. BACK TO YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, AFTER YOU'VE HEARD ALL OUR THOUGHTS, WHAT YOU THINK?

SO, JUST, TO HELP YOU WITH SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FOUR, IT CAN BE TWO, BUT, I'M ALMOST POSITIVE A SURVEY WON'T WORK. YOU

CAN SURVEY YOUR LIFE OUT AND, UNLESS YOU HAVE DIALOGUE INTERACTION,

DEBATE, AND FREE FLOW OF IDEAS, BRAINSTORMING, GETTING EVERYBODY

TOGETHER IN ONE ROOM WHERE PEOPLE CAN INTERACT, IT'S NOT GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING THAT A SURVEY WOULD. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO,

THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A STUDY THAT WE BOOKSHELF, WE ARE GOING TO LEARN FROM IT IMMEDIATELY. AND IT'S GOING TO INFORM OUR DECISIONS AS A COUNCIL ON THE DAIS.

OKAY.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THE SURVEY REPLACE THE WORKSHOP. I'M SAYING IT SUPPLEMENTS THE WORKSHOP. I THINK IT CAN BE HELPFUL TOOL. MY EXPERIENCE.

MORE DISCUSSION OR A MOTION? COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE? OF COURSE YOU CAN.

ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO MOVE THIS, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THE WORDS?

YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ECONOMIC GARDENING

PROGRAMMING EVENT AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PROCEED WITH COORDINATION AND LIMITATION.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

THANK YOU, SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, SECONDED BY MAYOR

ZOLLMAN TO APPROVE THE ECONOMIC GARDENING PROGRAM EVENT AND

AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PROCEED WITH COORDINATION AND LIMITATION, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?
YES. COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
YES.

COUNCILMEMBER MAURER?
YES.

MOTION PASSES 4-1 WITH COUNCILMEMBERS CARTER, HINTON, MAURER, MAYOR ZOLLMAN IN SUPPORT AND VICE MAYOR McLEWIS ABSENT.

MOVING ON TO A NUMBER 10, THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF FEE WAIVER

FOR THE LIVING PIECE WALL INDUCTION CEREMONY FOR SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT FEES, WAIVERS SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT APPLICATION BE OF $150 DAILY USE FEE OF 250, AMPLIFIED SOUND FEE OF $50 FOR A TOTAL OF $450. RESPONSIBLE

DEPARTMENT IS THE CITY ENGINEER PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, FISCAL IMPACT IS THE FEE WAIVER TOTAL OF $450, AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, ABOUT RECUSING

MYSELF ON THIS, I DID CHECK WITH ALEX, HE SAID YOU ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO

RECUSE IF YOU RECEIVE COMPENSATION FOR THE ORGANIZATION WHICH IS NOT

THE CASE, OR YOU WILL MAKE A DECISION BASED ON WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS IN

THE BEST INTEREST OF THE ORGANIZATION, WHICH, I DO BELIEVE I WOULD, BUT,

JUST TO BE IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A NONPROFIT AND

EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT ON THE BOARD BECAUSE I KNOW I CAN'T BE ON THE BOARD

OF ANY OF THE ORGANIZATIONS, I'M JUST ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE, BUT IN

AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF, LEAVE THE ROOM, TURNING IT OVER TO MARY, ALICE TO FACILITATE THE DISCUSSION.

COUNCILMEMBERS, NORMALLY IF THE MAYOR IS NOT THERE, VICE MAYOR WOULD PARTICIPATE, WOULD LEAD THE MEETING. ABSENT THAT OUR POLICY City Council Meeting Packet for Meeting of:

TODAY IS THAT COUNCIL IS SUPPOSED TO DIRECT SOMEONE TO LEAD THE MEETING. TRADITIONALLY, THAT'S SOMEONE WHO'S HAD THAT ROLE BEFORE, AND IS THE MOST SENIOR, NORMALLY WE WOULD DESIGNATE. UNLESS THE COUNCIL

FEEL STRONGLY IT MAKES SENSE JUST TO DESIGNATE COUNCILMEMBER HINTON FOR THIS BRIEF ITEM. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S CONSENSUS FOR THAT IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.

SURE. AS THE MAYOR JUST ANNOUNCED THE ITEMS, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT?
I'M LOOKING FOR A DATE ON THIS.

ALLOW ME TO TELL YOU THE DATE, RIGHT NOW IT'S SCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY, - - FOR THE 13th, WHICH IS NOT THE FOLLOWING SATURDAY, HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT OFFICIAL YET, BUT THEY'RE HAVING SCHEDULING ISSUES.

THAT THE SAME DATE AS PORT CHEST, THE 13th.

OKAY. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANYBODY REPRESENTING THE ORGANIZATION THAT WE COULD ASK QUESTIONS TOO. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? MARY, HAVE WE GIVEN THEM A DISCOUNT IN THE PAST? SOMETHING THEY REQUESTED AND IS IN LINE WITH OUR PAST?
IT IS.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, CAN WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT?

THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE REQUEST FOR THE WAIVER OF FEES FOR THE

PIECE WALL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT I WILL COME TO IN CHAMBERS FIRST. SEEING THEM I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE

A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE WAIVER OF FEES, PLEASE WAYS YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY. ANYBODY WANT TO, YEAH?
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO SUPPORT THE FEE WAIVER.

SECOND.

OKAY, WE HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND, MARY?

SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER

MAURER TO APPROVE THE FEE WAIVER FOR THE PEACEFUL INDUCTION CEREMONY. IN THE AMOUNT OF $450. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?
YES.

COUNCILMEMBER MAURER?
YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
YES.

VICE MAYOR McLEWIS?? AND MAYOR ZOLLMAN ARE ABSENT, MOTION PASSES 3-2

WITH COUNCILMEMBERS CARTER, MAURER, HINTON IN SUPPORT, VICE MAYOR McLEWIS AND MAYOR ZOLLMAN ABSENT, I WILL GO GET THE MAYOR TO RETURN TO THE DAIS. THERE HE IS.

MAKE SURE. OKAY. SO, AGENDA ITEM 11. WE'RE NOT DOING. SO NOW ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SO THIS IS THE TIME FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO SPEAK

DURING THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD TO SPEAK DURING THIS PUBLIC

COMMENT PERIOD IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT I WILL GO TO CHAMBERS FIRST. SEEING THEM I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE

A PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND YOU DID NOT SPEAK AT THE EARLIER ONE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

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THANK YOU, NOW WE'RE MOVING INTO THE LAST PART, WHICH IS

COUNCILMEMBER REQUEST FOR FUTURE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? LOOKING TO MY RIGHT, LOOKING TO MY LEFT, SEEING NONE. WE'RE GETTING INTO CITY COUNCIL STAFF REPORT OUTS AND TO OUR WONDERFUL INTERIM CITY MANAGER FIRST.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WON'T READ THEM ALL, BUT ATTACHED TO THE PACKET IS

THE DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE OF THE SIGNIFICANT

ACTIVITIES THAT ARE HAPPENED, WE DID RECEIVE, YOU WILL SEE IT IN YOUR

HIGHLIGHTS THIS WEEK, WE DID RECEIVE A CHECK FROM GRAFTON COMMONS FOR THEIR BILLING PERMIT, YESTERDAY. AS I SAID AT THE LAST MEETING THE

REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE CITY MANAGER RECRUITING FIRM WILL BE

COMING AT THE NECK CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR APPROVAL AT THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

GREAT, TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR REPORT OUTS? COUNCILMEMBER HINTON? SURE. I ATTENDED THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR SCT CA, AND THE FULL BOARD MEETING, ON JULY 14th, THE MAIN ITEMS THAT ARE HAPPENING IS THAT A

CLOVERDALE HAS PULLED OUT OF THE BAY WRITTEN PROGRAM BY A VOTE OF

THEIR COUNCIL AND SEVASTOPOL IS THE LAST CITY MUNICIPALITY STANDING IN

BAY RAN WHICH IS OUR WATER SAVING MEASURE THAT WE APPROVED IN OUR CPA HAS MANAGED FOR AS MANY YEARS AS IT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE. THEY HAVE A

PROPOSAL THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND TRY TO, THEY THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE DISSOLVED. AS I'VE REPORTED BEFORE, THEY HAVE AT LEAST ONE

FULL-TIME AND ONE PART-TIME PERSON THAT WORKS IN THEIR ORGANIZATION THAT WILL BE IMPACTED IF THAT FUNDING IS LOST. THEY'RE GOING TO WIND IT

DOWN AND ARE NOT ACTIVELY SOLICITING IN THE CITY OF SEVASTOPOL BECAUSE THEY GOT TO WIND US DOWN FROM THIS OFFICIAL PROGRAM. IF IT IS DISSOLVED, AND IT'S LOOKING LIKE THAT IS WHERE IT'S GOING. THEY ARE HOPEFUL THAT

ANOTHER CLIMATE ACTION TYPE OF PROGRAM IS APPROVED, AND I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DETAILS ON THAT. AND IT WOULD BE BAY AREA WIDE AGAIN, AND IF IT'S

APPROVED THEN, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO REALLOCATE THE POSITIONS WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. WITH NEW FUNDING. SO, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG THING FOR OUR

CPA, JUST, EVERYBODY IS HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL GET RESOLVED, THESE

ORGANIZATIONS USE A LOT OF TERMS LIKE MASCOTS, SO I GRABBED A COUPLE OFF THE TABLE. BECAUSE THE OTHER THING IS THAT REALLY HAPPENING, BUT

THERE'S A LOT OF TALK AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP TONIGHT, BUT, THAT MOST

WRITERS ARE CHOOSING RIGHT FOR THEIR REGIONAL TRIP, SO THERE IS MASCOTS

DOING A STUDY AND RECOMMENDING THAT GOLDEN GATE TRANSIT BUS TRIPS ARE REDUCED. THAT ONLY SOME ARE OFFERED THAT ARE LONGER COMMUTE,

THAT WOULD GO ALL THE WAY INTO THE BAY AREA WITHOUT THE STOPS ALONG THE WAY. IT DOES DESERVE SINCE WE HEARD FROM A SPEAKER THAT I HAVE CONTINUED TO BE VERY, VERY VOCAL SINCE I WAS ELECTED IN 2016 ABOUT US PAYING AND NOT GETTING REPRESENTATION ON THAT BOARD. MANY, MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS, I'VE TALKED TO GRACE ROGERS AND MARK McGWIRE

AND VICTORIA FLEMING, THEY HAVE PROMISED THAT OUR VOICES WILL BE HEARD. SEVASTOPOL AND CITY OF SONOMA ARE IN THE SAME BOAT. WE DO KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING OUT FOR A TAX EXTENSION. I HAVE NOT YET ENDORSED

THAT CAMPAIGN ALTHOUGH I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO, BECAUSE I WOULD REALLY

LIKE TO GET OUR PROBLEM SOLVED, SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, WE

DO WORK ON THESE REGIONAL BOARDS AND WE WORK WITH OUR ELECTED FOLKS

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LOCAL LEVEL GO ON TO REPRESENT US IN SACRAMENTO AND THAT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE. AND ALSO IT'S A SIDE NOTE BUT WE DID SEE ON OUR CONSENT

CALENDAR THAT WE WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE COUNTY OF SONOMA TO GET OUR SALES TAX IMPLEMENTED IN A POSITIVE WAY. SO SOMETIMES THESE

THINGS AREN'T OBVIOUS TO THE PUBLIC BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THAT. ANYWAY, THAT'S MY VERBAL REPORT OUT. IT WAS THE SHORTEST MEETING I'VE EVER READ ATTENDED. AT OUR CPA. THIS FRIDAY OR THIS MONDAY. THIS LAST MONDAY, THANKS.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MAURER?

I STARTED A PROJECT, I WANTED TO LET COUNCIL AND STAFF KNOW, OF OUR

COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WAS TALKING ABOUT A GRANT SHE

WANTED, A CULTURAL GRANT, AND SO I STARTED GATHERING INFORMATION

ABOUT SEVASTOPOL AND WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT SEVASTOPOL, WHAT IS

SEVASTOPOL'S HISTORY AND CULTURE, AND HOW MANY RESTAURANTS DO WE HAVE IN TOWN? SO I CREATED A SPREADSHEET OF ALL THE RESTAURANTS, I THINK I'M UP TO 97 PLACES THAT YOU CAN GET TO EAT OR DRINK. AND I INCLUDED HOT

BARS, AND FIESTA AND ALL THESE PLACES BUT, I WANTED TO OFFER IF ANYBODY WANTED A COPY OF THAT, I CAN SEND IT TO MARY AND OFFER TO COUNCIL. YEAH.

SO, MY GOAL IS TO TRY EVERY SINGLE PLACE. AND I'M HAVING FUN WITH THAT.

I'M A LIAISON TO THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS, I WENT TO THEIR BELONGING

PROJECT, THEY HAVE ALL THIS REALLY COOL PUBLIC ART AND THEY HAD IT OPEN

SO YOU COULD WALK THROUGH THE FENCE, AND THAT WAS REALLY NICE, I'VE BEEN TO PEACE TOWN, MY HUSBAND AND I CELEBRATED OUR 25th WEDDING ANNIVERSARY. SO THAT WAS A BIG DEAL FOR ME, MEANINGFUL TO ME, THAT'S ALL.

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?

CAN I JUST ADD ON THAT I DIDN'T GET A REPORT OUT BY RESTAURANT WALK, YOU

JUST REMINDED ME, I DID WANT TO SAY THAT I DID MY FIFTH ANNUAL, I WALKED LOCAL AND SEVASTOPOL ON THE 28th OF JUNE, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO

REPORT IT OUT, BUT THAT IS A SUPER POPULAR WALK, DID SOME NEWER

RESTAURANTS, WE HAD SOME OLD FAVORITES, YOU JUST LOST ONE FROM ROMAN THAT'S MOVING TO TEXAS AND HE'S DONE MY WALK, I THINK, EVERY YEAR. IT WAS A SPECIAL TIME. AND I AGREE, WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT RESTAURANTS, AND WE GOT TO STUFF OURSELVES THAT MORNING.

IN ADDITION TO MY REGULAR MEETINGS, THE VICE MAYOR AND I HAVE SPENT A

SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME, AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT

ABOUT WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING, SPECIFICALLY IN REFERENCE TO

ELDERBERRY COMMONS, AND WITH THE PENDING STARTING THE DIGGING, FOR OUR COMMONS. LOTS OF MEETINGS. HUGE MEETINGS. ALEX, MARY, ATTENDED

ONE, WHICH WAS A STATUS CHECK IN, WITH SUPERVISOR HOPKINS AND A TON OF

PEOPLE FROM THE COUNTY, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR REDUCING

THE CITY EXPENSES BY WAY OF POLICE TIME AND THE RESPONSE TO ELDERBERRY COMMONS. A LOT OF DIFFERENT THOUGHTS ABOUT WHETHER THE CITY COUNCIL, AT ANY TIME, LOADED TO APPROVE THAT PROJECT. STATEMENTS WERE MADE, TO THE FACT THERE WAS A VOTE. ONE VERSION OF THIS COUNCIL TO APPROVE THAT PROJECT. SINCE THAT STATEMENT WAS MADE, THERE'S BEEN RESEARCH

CONDUCTED AND MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO THE

COUNTY ABOUT WHETHER ANY CITY COUNCIL DID EFFECTIVELY VOTE TO HAVE THAT PROJECT HAPPEN. AND ONCE THAT DECISION HAS BEEN REACHED, ABOUT

HOW TO PROCEED WITH THAT, ALSO, FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THERE City Council Meeting Packet for Meeting of:

WILL BE AN FAQ ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND IT WILL BE LAUNCHED ON THE CITY SITE. SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OUR REQUEST, REIMBURSEMENT FROM POLICE, THAT WAS A NO. THAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING ALONG WITH A FEW OTHER THINGS.

I WILL SAY TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ESPECIALLY QUESTIONING WHAT ARE

WE DOING, ON OUR DIFFERENT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, A LOT OF WORK HAS

BEEN ALLOCATED AND A LOT OF WORK CONTINUE TO BE ALLOCATED IN REFERENCE TO WHAT'S GOING ON AT GROVE AND STEEN COMMONS. THE PENDING WORK, AND THE ONGOING WORK AT ELDERBERRY COMMONS. TO THE POINT

WHERE IT IS NOT JUST US, MAYORS, FIVE OF US STARTED TO MEET WITH THE

DIRECTOR OF THE HOMELESS DIVISION, OUR NEW DIRECTOR OF THE HOMELESS

DIVISION, WHO I MENTIONED, HOPEFULLY EVERYONE WILL HAVE ON THEIR CALENDAR TO COME AND ASK HIM MANY QUESTIONS ON AUGUST 5th BECAUSE HE,

ALONG WITH A FEW OTHER PEOPLE FROM THAT DEPARTMENT WILL BE COMING TO

ANSWER ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH DO WE PAY FOR EACH OF THE HOMELESS PEOPLE? QUESTIONS LIKE THAT, AND ALSO, REIMAGINING HOW, WITH A

LIMITED AMOUNT OF RESOURCES WE HAVE, AND THE PENDING SLASHING OF THOSE MONEY, WHAT ARE WE REALLY GOING TO DO? IN REFERENCE TO THOSE THAT ARE VULNERABLE ON OUR STREETS, POLICE, OTHER NEEDED RESPONSES. I

SAY ALL THAT, THE FACT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK, MAYBE WE'RE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB OF COMMUNICATING IT BUT WE'LL TRY TO DO BETTER ON THAT FRONT.

THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD GET A CALENDAR INVITE FOR THAT, AUGUST 5th THING. I WILL FORGET.

THAT WILL BE COMING HERE.

THAT WILL BE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE PRESENTATION.

AND FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW, PLEASE MARK IT ON YOUR CALENDAR.

I'M SORRY, OUR PUBLIC WORKS, CITY ENGINEER HAS LEFT, I KNOW THE COUNCIL

KNOWS THIS AND STAFF KNOWS THAT BUT FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MARK HAS ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT. SO HIS LAST, HIS RETIREMENT DATE IS AUGUST 10th, HIS LAST DAY IS JULY 24th. SO, I WILL BE HAVING AN INTERIM CITY

ENGINEER FOR NOW SO THAT WE CAN SIGN ALL OF OUR GRANTS, CALTRANS

PERMITS, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND BE DOING A RECRUITMENT FOR THAT POSITION AS WELL. AND BASED, COUNCILMEMBER MAURER ON THE PUBLIC , THE CALLS, I

WANT TO SAY THERE'S A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT WEEK, THE PUBLIC ARTS

COMMITTEE WILL BE HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THE CULTURAL

OUR DISTRICT GRANT, IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN THAT, THAT ITEM WILL BE COMING TO THE COUNCIL AUGUST 5th TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION, AND

REGARDING THE RIGHT AID, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I HAVE INITIATED A LETTER TO

RITE AID TO ASK WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THAT BUILDING, IF THEY'RE GOING TO TELL ME OR NOT IS ANOTHER QUESTION. I DID PUT IN SOME INQUIRIES AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW.

ONE OTHER THING I JUST REMEMBERED, BECAUSE ON OUR COUNCIL MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 5th, FOR THOSE THAT HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT GRAB AND

STEEN COMMONS, WE'VE INVITED JACK TIBBETTS TO DO AN INFORMATIONAL

PRESENTATION TO US, ABOUT THE STATUS OF THIS ONGOING FUNDING FOR THIS

PROJECT, BECAUSE THERE IS, AGAIN, CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER THE FUNDING IS GOING TO MANIFEST ITSELF FOR THE TIMING WHEN ALL THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO GET THE COMMUNITY THE INFORMATION ABOUT THESE PROJECTS, SO, SORRY, I THINK I CUT YOU OFF.

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I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE RIGHT AID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M ALLOWED

TO ASK BUT, HOW CAN, CAN WE PUT RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT THAT BUILDING CAN

BE, OR CAN WE THINK ABOUT --

WE HAVE A ZONING CODE THAT PUTS RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT THAT BUILDING WOULD BE. SO, IF THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE ZONING CODE IF THEY WANT TO UPDATE. WHAT IS ALLOWED, THERE.

SINCE WE HAVE SOME CODE ABOUT, WHAT IS IT, FRANCHISE BUSINESSES? DOES THAT AFFECT WHAT CAN GO IN THERE?
POTENTIALLY, YES.

OKAY.

IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT THE PROPOSED REUSE IS. WE DON'T KNOW. THERE IS AN ORDINANCE.

THAT BUILDING IS NOT COVERED BY THE FORMULA BUSINESS ORDINANCE.

IT IS WITHIN DOWNTOWN. THE ZONE.

IT IS.

GREAT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE ADJOURN?

JUST A COMMENT TO THANK OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, MARY CURLEY, WHO

IS DOING A FABULOUS JOB, AND SHE WAS STELLAR CITY CLERK, ASSISTANT CITY

MANAGER AND YOU'RE BRINGING THAT SAME QUALITY TO THE CITY MANAGER POSITION, AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY. SO GRATEFUL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US.

THANK YOU.

IF THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER, WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN. THANK YOU EVERYONE, THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE HANGING ON. [Event Concluded]
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