Sebastopol City Council
August 5, 2025

City Council
Mayor Stephen Zollman
Vice Mayor Jill McLewis
Councilmember Phill Carter
Councilmember Neysa Hinton
Councilmember Sandra Maurer

Interim City Manager
Mary Gourley
[email protected]

CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
MINUTES FOR REGULAR MEETING OF AUGUST 5, 2025
As Approved by the City Council at their regular meeting of September 2, 2025

CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Zollman called the meeting to order 6:00 pm ROLL CALL:

Present: Mayor Stephen Zollman
Councilmember Phill Carter
Councilmember Neysa Hinton (arrived 6:03 pm)
Councilmember Sandra Maurer

Absent: Vice Mayor McLewis
Staff: Interim City Manager Mary Gourley
City Attorney Alex Mog
Administrative Services Director Kwong
Building Official Brown
Public Works:

Erik Billings
Toni Bertolero
Police Chief McDonagh
SALUTE TO THE FLAG : Mayor Zollman led the salute to the flag.

REMOTE PARTICIPATION UNDER AB 2449 (IF NEEDED): To consider and take action on any request from a Council Member to participate in a meeting remotely due to Just Cause or Emergency Circumstances pursuant to AB 2449 (Government Code Section 549539(f)). Assembly Bill 2302 (2024) (“AB 2302”) revises rules for when members of local legislative bodies may participate in meetings remotely. Specifically, it amends the number of meetings that may be attended remotely for just cause and under emergency circumstances and clarifies the definition of the term “meeting,” for purposes of remote attendance. AB 2302 caps the number of remote meetings a member can attend each year based on the frequency of a legislative body’s meetings: Five meetings per year for those meeting twice a month.

PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS/INTRODUCTIONS:

The following was presented:

Proclamation Proclaiming Women’s Equality Day – August 26, 2025 Reference Order Number: 2025-238

STATEMENTS OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST: Conflicts of interest may arise in situations where a public official deliberating towards a decision, has an actual or potential financial interest in the matter before the Council. In accordance with state law, an actual conflict of interest is one that would be to the private financial benefit of a public official, a relative or a business with which the Councilmember is associated. A potential conflict of interest is one that could be to the private financial benefit of a Councilmember, a relative or a business with which the Councilmember is associated. A Councilmember must publicly announce potential and actual conflicts of interest, and, in the case of actual conflict of interest, must refrain from participating in debate on the issue or from voting on the issue and must remove themselves from the dais.

Mayor Zollman stated he had a conflict of interest with Item Number 8 on the agenda and would be recusing himself from that item.

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PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA (FIRST COMMENT PERIOD): Up to Twenty (20) Minute Time Limit (Two Minutes for up to ten speakers). Additional public comment will be held at the end of the discussion and action items for up to an additional twenty (20) minutes. Mayor has discretion to allow for additional time beyond the 20 minutes allocated for public comment dependent upon the subject matter or number of speakers.

Process for calling on Speakers: Mayor or designee shall ask for public comment as follows: Speakers to be called on in an alternate manner (One speaker in person to be called on first; then one speaker remote to be called on second with additional speakers to be called on in the same manner) based upon the time limit.

The following member(s) of the public spoke during public comment.

Oliver
Kate
Katie
Kyle
Myriah
Kathleen
CONSENT CALENDAR: The consent agenda consists of items that are routine in nature and do not require additional discussion by the City Council or have been reviewed by the City Council previously. These items may be approved by one motion without discussion unless a member of the City Council requests that the item be taken off the consent calendar.

The Mayor will read aloud the title of each consent item (either full agenda title or a simplified version of the agenda title), and ask if a Councilmember wishes to remove one or more items from the consent calendar; and then open public comment to the members of the public in attendance. At this time, a member of the public may speak for up to two (2) minutes on the entire consent calendar and request at that time that an item or items removed for discussion.

If an item or items are removed from the consent calendar, the item shall be placed at the end of the regular agenda items unless otherwise determined by the Mayor. Council Members may comment on Consent Calendar items or ask for minor clarifications without the need for pulling the item for separate consideration. Items requiring deliberation should be pulled for separate consideration and shall be placed at the end of the regular agenda items unless otherwise determined by the Mayor.

Mayor Zollman read the consent calendar.

Mayor Zollman asked if any Councilmember wanted to remove a consent calendar item.

Item number 8 was removed for a separate vote.

Mayor Zollman opened for Public Comment(s).

The following member(s) of the public spoke during public comment:

Robert
Mayor Zollman called for a motion.

MOTION:

Councilmember Hinton moved and Councilmember Carter seconded the motion to approve consent calendar items 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

Mayor Zollman called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Maurer and Mayor Zollman Noes: None

Absent: Vice Mayor McLewis
Abstain: None
MOTION:

Councilmember Hinton moved and Councilmember Maurer seconded the motion to approve consent calendar Page | 3
items 8.

Mayor Zollman called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Maurer
Noes: None

Absent: Vice Mayor McLewis
Abstain: Mayor Zollman

1. Approval of City Council Meeting Minutes of July 15, 2025 Responsible Department: Interim City Manager
Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with approval of this item.

City Council Action: Approved City Council Meeting Minutes of July 15, 2025 Minute Order Number: 2025-239

2. Approval of Amendment to City Council Protocols:

Policy Number 6 - Agenda Review Committee/Agenda Preparation/Placement of Items onto an Agenda
Policy Number 7 - Rules for the Conduct of its Meetings, Proceedings and City Business Responsible Department: City Attorney/Interim City Manager Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with approval of this item City Council Action: Approved Amendment to City Council Protocols:

Policy Number 6 - Agenda Review Committee/Agenda Preparation/Placement of Items onto an Agenda Policy Number 7 - Rules for the Conduct of its Meetings, Proceedings and City Business Minute Order Number: 2025-240

3. Approval of First Reading and Introduction of Ordinance for Amendment to Sebastopol Municipal Code

2.36.050 to designate the Police Chief as the Director of Emergency Services due to Reorganization of Fire Department to the Gold Ridge Fire District
Responsible Department: Police
Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with approval of this item.

City Council Action: Approved First Reading and Introduction of Ordinance for Amendment to Sebastopol Municipal Code 2.36.050 to designate the Police Chief as the Director of Emergency Services due to Reorganization of Fire Department to the Gold Ridge Fire District Minute Order Number: 2025-241
Ordinance Number: 1158

4. Approval of Request or Proposals for Recruitment Firms for Recruitment for City Manager Position and Authorization to Release Requests for Proposal
Responsible Department: Human Resources Consultant/Interim City Manager Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with approval of this item. $35,000 has been allocated in the FY 25 26 Budget for recruitment for City Manager Position.

City Council Action: Approved Request or Proposals for Recruitment Firms for Recruitment for City Manager Position and Authorization to Release Requests for Proposal Minute Order Number: 2025-242
Resolution Number: 6688-2025

5. Approval of Authorization for Staff Coordination with Sebastopol Neighborhood Communications Unit (SNCU) Regarding Community-Based Emergency Communications Proposal Requestor: Mayor Zollman/Responsible Department: Police Page | 4
Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with approval of this item other than staff time. Any requests for budget will be proposed to the budget committee followed by consideration of the City Council at a publicly noticed City Council meeting.

City Council Action: Approved Authorization for Staff Coordination with Sebastopol Neighborhood Communications Unit (SNCU) Regarding Community-Based Emergency Communications Proposal Minute Order Number: 2025-243

6. Approval of Amendment to Administrative Technician Job Description to include “May be tasked supervisory lead” duties as needed.

Responsible Department: Human Resources Consultant/Administrative Services Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with approval of this item.

City Council Action: Approved Amendment to Administrative Technician Job Description to include “May be tasked supervisory lead” duties as needed.

Minute Order Number: 2025-244
Resolution Number: 6689-2025

7. Adoption of Resolution Authorizing the City Engineer Consultant to Sign Forms and Documents Pertaining to Caltrans and Transportation Grants. With the retirement of the Current Public Works Director/City Engineer, effective August 10, 2025, a new assignment for Contract City Engineer is required by Caltrans for signing authority for transportation grant projects.

Responsible Department: Interim City Manager
Fiscal Impact: There is no additional fiscal impact with approval of this item. Funding has been allocated in the FY 25 26 budget for City Engineer Services in the amount of $50,000. City will be conducting a recruitment in the future for this department vacancy.

City Council Action: Approved Adoption of Resolution Authorizing the City Engineer Consultant to Sign Forms and Documents Pertaining to Caltrans and Transportation Grants. With the retirement of the Current Public Works Director/City Engineer, effective August 10, 2025, a new assignment for Contract City Engineer is required by Caltrans for signing authority for transportation grant projects.

Minute Order Number: 2025-245
Resolution Number: 6690-2025

8. Approval of Annual Peace Wall Honorees. Council accept the Peace Wall Honorees as nominated by the Sebastopol Living Peace Wall Selection Committee. The persons proposed to be honored on the Peace Wall are required to be reviewed by the City Council, since the Wall is located on public property. Upon Council approval their names will be inscribed onto the Living Peace Wall.

Responsible Department: Community Development
Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with approval of this item. At the last City Council meeting, the Council approved wavier of fees for this event in the amount of $450.00.

City Council Action: Approved Annual Peace Wall Honorees. Council accept the Peace Wall Honorees as nominated by the Sebastopol Living Peace Wall Selection Committee. The persons proposed to be honored on the Peace Wall are required to be reviewed by the City Council, since the Wall is located on public property. Upon Council approval their names will be inscribed onto the Living Peace Wall.

Minute Order Number: 2025-246
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS/PRESENTATIONS: Informational Items or Presentations are items that are informational only and do not require action by the City Council. Presentations shall be scheduled as necessary for the promotion of an event or service or general information items to the Council and should be limited to ten (10) minutes total in length of item (total length includes questions of Council to presenter and public comment).

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9. Informational Presentation: The “Hotel Sebastopol” development Update. This is a requirement for the applicant to return annually for update on the status of the project. This item was rescheduled from the July 15th City Council Meeting
Responsible Department: Community Development
Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with receipt of this item.

Interim City Manager Gourley presented the agenda item recommending the Council hear the presentation; ask questions, open the public comment, and receive the presentation and introduced Daniele Petrone, Senior Project Manager, Piazza Hospitality.

Daniele Petrone, Senior Project Manager, Piazza Hospitality provided an update to the City Council.

Mayor Zollman asked for questions of the presenter or staff. Council asked various questions of staff.

Mayor Zollman opened the public comment. The following member(s) of the public provided public comment:

Linda
Oliver
Kate
Kyle
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Direction:

The Council thanked the presenter for the informational presentation.

City Council Action: No action required. Informational Only.

Reference Order Number: 2025-247

10. Informational Presentation: State of Department of Health Services/Presenter Nolan Sullivan, Director of Sonoma County’s Department of Health Services
Requestor: Mayor Zollman/Responsible Department: Interim City Manager Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with receipt of this item.

Mayor Zollman presented the agenda item recommending the Council hear the presentation; ask questions, open the public comment, and receive the presentation and introduced Nolan Sullivan, Director of Sonoma County’s Department of Health Services.

Nolan Sullivan, Director of Sonoma County’s Department of Health Services provided the presentation to the City Council.

Mayor Zollman asked for questions of the presenter or staff. Council asked various questions of staff.

Mayor Zollman opened the public comment. The following member(s) of the public provided public comment:

Gregory
Linda
Oliver
Kate
Barbara
Member of the audience
Misty
Erika
Georges
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Mary
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Direction:

1. Informational Presentation on Coordinated Entry

2. Informational Presentation on MST after the Sonoma County Board of Supervisors on August 26, 2025 that will detail many of the responses requested in your question

3. Presentation on Measure O from Nolan Sullivan in the future City Council Action: No action required; requested the following:

1. Informational Presentation on Coordinated Entry

2. Informational Presentation on MST after the Sonoma County Board of Supervisors on August 26, 2025 that will detail many of the responses requested in your question

3. Presentation on Measure O from Nolan Sullivan in the future Reference Order Number: 2025-248

PUBLIC HEARING(s): NONE
REGULAR CALENDAR AGENDA ITEMS (DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION):

11. Consideration of Creation of Standing Committee for Water/Sewer Fund Oversight; Item was continued from July 1st City Council Meeting
Requestor: Councilmember Carter/Responsible Department: Public Works/Administrative Services
Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal (dollar) impact with approval of this item; however, staff time will be required to staff this committee.

Councilmember Carter presented the agenda item recommending the Council hear the presentation; ask questions, open the public comment, and approve the following: Creation of Standing Committee for Water/Sewer Fund Oversight.

Mayor Zollman asked for questions of the requestor and/or staff. Council asked various questions of staff.

Mayor Zollman opened the public comment. The following member(s) of the public provided public comment:

Kate
Gregory
Kyle
Robert
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Direction:

The Council provided additional comments.

MOTION:

Councilmember Carter moved and Mayor Zollman seconded the motion to approve the following:

Creation of Standing Committee for Water/Sewer Fund Oversight The Committee shall be composed of no more than six (6) members who are at least 18 years ofage, reside or have a business in Sebastopol, and have one of the following qualifications:
a) One member of the City Council
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b) At least one person who owns or is a representative of a business in the City of Sebastopol City limits c) At least two people who are residents of the City of Sebastopol and actively engaged in City governance (such as active engagement with the Council)
d) At least one person who is a resident ofthe City of Sebastopol and who has expertise in accounting, auditing, or another financial field
Whenever there are vacancies on the Oversight Committee, the Lead Staff Department shall advertise an invitation for individuals to apply to serve on the committee. Notice of any vacancies will be advertised in the Press Democrat and on the City's website and social media outlets. The applications received shall be reviewed for selection criteria and shall be submitted to the full City Council for interviews and selection by the full City Council.

Duties. The Committee shall act in an advisory capacity to the City Council and no express authority or power to act on behalfofthe City is hereby delegated. To carry out its stated purpose, the Committee shall perform the following duties:
a) Reviewing Annual Budgets and Financial Reports: The Committee will analyze the financial health of the Enterprise Funds, ensuring that budgets and financial statements reflect accurate and sustainable practices.
b) Analyzing Rate Studies and Rate Adjustment Proposals: The Committee will evaluate proposed rate changes, including providing recommendations on cost allocation methods to ensure fairness and financial viability.
c) Evaluating Long-Term Financial Planning and Capital Improvement Needs: The Committee will assess capital improvement plans (CIP), master plans, and long-term financial forecasts related to Enterprise Fund operations, ensuring that projects are properly prioritized and funded and that master planning efforts align with Enterprise Fund financial sustainability. d) Engage with the public and other stakeholders to ensure that the community’s interests and concerns are reflected in the Committee’s recommendations.
e) Such other duties as assigned by the City Council.
f) Shall submit an annual report to the Council in early June before the next fiscal year budget is adopted.

2. Staff Liaison: Engineering/Public Works Director will be the lead staff department and will provide staffing support for the committee. Administrative Services Director will also provide support to the committee.

Documents shall be provided by staff to the Committee a minimum of two weeks prior to the Committee meeting.

3. The Committee meetings shall be in compliance with the Ralph M. Brown Act. All members shall complete financial disclosure forms (Form 700).

4. The Terms shall be two year terms, expiring on January 31st with the ability to renew for an additional two years.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, the City Council may designate half of the initial members of the Committee to serve an initial one year term to enable staggering of the terms. Members shall serve at the pleasure of the City Council.

5. Vacancies, other than by the expiration of a term, shall be filled by appointment for the unexpired portion of said term, in the same manner as original appointments are made.

6. Regular meetings shall be held semi-annually in March and September. Additional meetings may be held as necessary.

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7. A quorum of the Committee shall consist of a minimum of three (3) members. A quorum must be present in order for the Oversight Committee to hold a meeting.

The Officers of the Committee shall be a Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson, who shall be selected by the membership for one (1) year term. The Chairperson shall preside at all meetings.

Mayor Zollman called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmember Carter, Maurer, and Mayor Zollman
Noes: Councilmember Hinton

Absent: Vice Mayor McLewis
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved Creation of Standing Committee for Water/Sewer Fund Oversight The Committee shall be composed of no more than six (6) members who are at least 18 years of age, reside or have a business in Sebastopol, and have one of the following qualifications:
a) One member of the City Council
b) At least one person who owns or is a representative of a business in the City of Sebastopol City limits c) At least two people who are residents of the City of Sebastopol and actively engaged in City governance (such as active engagement with the Council)
d) At least one person who is a resident of the City of Sebastopol and who has expertise in accounting, auditing, or another financial field
Whenever there are vacancies on the Oversight Committee, the Lead Staff Department shall advertise an invitation for individuals to apply to serve on the committee. Notice of any vacancies will be advertised in the Press Democrat and on the City's website and social media outlets. The applications received shall be reviewed for selection criteria and shall be submitted to the full City Council for interviews and selection by the full City Council.

Duties. The Committee shall act in an advisory capacity to the City Council and no express authority or power to act on behalf of the City is hereby delegated. To carry out its stated purpose, the Committee shall perform the following duties:
a) Reviewing Annual Budgets and Financial Reports: The Committee will analyze the financial health of the Enterprise Funds, ensuring that budgets and financial statements reflect accurate and sustainable practices. b) Analyzing Rate Studies and Rate Adjustment Proposals: The Committee will evaluate proposed rate changes, including providing recommendations on cost allocation methods to ensure fairness and financial viability.
c) Evaluating Long-Term Financial Planning and Capital Improvement Needs: The Committee will assess capital improvement plans (CIP), master plans, and long-term financial forecasts related to Enterprise Fund operations, ensuring that projects are properly prioritized and funded and that master planning efforts align with Enterprise Fund financial sustainability.
d) Engage with the public and other stakeholders to ensure that the community’s interests and concerns are reflected in the Committee’s recommendations.
e) Such other duties as assigned by the City Council.
f) Shall submit an annual report to the Council in early June before the next fiscal year budget is adopted.

2. Staff Liaison: Engineering/Public Works Director will be the lead staff department and will provide staffing support for the committee. Administrative Services Director will also provide support to the committee.

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Documents shall be provided by staff to the Committee a minimum of two weeks prior to the Committee meeting.

3. The Committee meetings shall be in compliance with the Ralph M. Brown Act. All members shall complete financial disclosure forms (Form 700).

4. The Terms shall be two year terms, expiring on January 31st with the ability to renew for an additional two years. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the City Council may designate half of the initial members of the Committee to serve an initial one year term to enable staggering of the terms. Members shall serve at the pleasure of the City Council.

5. Vacancies, other than by the expiration of a term, shall be filled by appointment for the unexpired portion of said term, in the same manner as original appointments are made.

6. Regular meetings shall be held semi-annually in March and September. Additional meetings may be held as necessary.

7. A quorum of the Committee shall consist of a minimum of three (3) members. A quorum must be present in order for the Oversight Committee to hold a meeting.

The Officers of the Committee shall be a Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson, who shall be selected by the membership for one (1) year term. The Chairperson shall preside at all meetings.

Minute Order Number: 2025-249
Resolution Number: 6691-2025

12. Review of State of California Invitation to Apply for a Cultural District Designation and Request to approve for staff to prepare and submit an application. This item is related to a State designation granted by the State of California Arts Council to a small percentage of cities in the state.

Selection of the City for a Cultural District Designation would include State funded marketing of the City via the State’s tourism website, welcome centers, and funding to support both tourism and public art programming.

Responsible Department: Community Development Director/Interim Consultant 4Leaf Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with approval of this item to submit the grant application.

Interim City Manager Gourley presented the agenda item recommending the Council hear the presentation from the Consultant; Luke Lindenbusch, 4Leaf; ask questions, open the public comment, and approve the following:

Adopt the Resolution authorizing the Interim City Manager to sign forms and documents required for submittal of a California Cultural District Grant Application to the California Arts Council (CAC).

Interim City Manager Gourley introduced Luke Lindenbusch, Interim Supervising Planner (4LEAF, Inc.) who presented specifics to the agenda item.

Mayor Zollman asked for questions of the requestor and/or staff. Council asked various questions of staff.

Mayor Zollman opened the public comment. The following member(s) of the public provided public comment:

Jeff
Oliver
Kate
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Direction:

The Council further discussed the application.

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MOTION:

Councilmember Maurer moved and Councilmember Hinton seconded the motion to approve the following:

Adopt the Resolution authorizing the Interim City Manager to sign forms and documents required for submittal of a California Cultural District Grant Application to the California Arts Council (CAC) with the following amendments:

Foodie / Restaurants – Added as inventory list
Removal of Porch Fest from the list
Add Burbank Farms to list if within 3000 feet
Name be: Sebastopol Cultural Arts District; a Walkable Vibrant Arts Culture and Food Haven at the gateway to the Sonoma Coast
Include names and roles on page 11 and 12
Include additional letters if we receive them (letters of support) Mayor Zollman called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Maurer and Mayor Zollman Noes: None

Absent: Vice Mayor McLewis
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved the following:

Adopt the Resolution authorizing the Interim City Manager to sign forms and documents required for submittal of a California Cultural District Grant Application to the California Arts Council (CAC) with the following amendments:

Minute Order Number: 2025-250
Resolution Number:

13. Consideration / Discussion of Homeless Outreach Services Contract. As discussed at the July 1st Council meeting, staff was directed to work with WCCS on deliverables within the $40,000 fund allocation (minus $3350 for month of July already approved) Responsible Department: Police
Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact with approval of this item. Funding has been budgeted in the FY 25 26 budget for $40,000 for homeless outreach services.

Police Chief McDonagh presented the agenda item and introduced Christy Davilla, West County Community Services who presented specifics to the agenda item.

Mayor Zollman asked for questions of the requestor and/or staff. Council asked various questions of staff.

Mayor Zollman opened the public comment. The following member(s) of the public provided public comment:

Oliver
Kate
Woody
Danielle
June
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Direction:

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The Council continued discussion of the contract.

MOTION:

Councilmember Hinton moved and Councilmember Maurer seconded the motion to approve the following:

Approval of the proposed contract for FY 2025–2026 in the amount of $36,667 funding agreement to continue with WCCS for FY2025-2026 for continued Homeless Outreach Services.

Mayor Zollman called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Maurer and Mayor Zollman Noes: None

Absent: Vice Mayor McLewis
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved the following:

Approval of the proposed contract for FY 2025–2026 in the amount of $36,667 funding agreement to continue with WCCS for FY2025-2026 for continued Homeless Outreach Services.

Minute Order Number: 2025-251

14. Consideration of Request from Sebastopol Senior Center for funding to conduct an appraisal of the Senior Center Building located at 167 North High Street Requestor: Mayor Zollman/Responsible Department: Public Works/Engineering Fiscal Impact: There will be a fiscal impact with this item if approved. The cost of an appraisal can range from $1000 - $5000. This item was discussed at the budget committee and not recommended for funding at that meeting. Budget Committees expressed that pursuing an appraisal at this stage is premature.

Interim City Manager Gourley presented the agenda item recommending the City Council consider the request from the Sebastopol Senior Center for an official appraisal of the city-owned building located at 167 North High Street to assess its current market value.

Mayor Zollman asked for questions of the requestor and/or staff. Council asked various questions of staff.

Mayor Zollman opened the public comment. The following member(s) of the public provided public comment:

A member of the audience
Linda
Oliver
Kate
Les
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Direction:

The Council discussed the request.

MOTION:

Council did not act on this item.

City Council Action: No action taken.

Minute Order Number: 2025-252
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ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA: Two minutes per speaker for up to twenty (20) minutes total for public comments but can be reduced at Mayor’s discretion depending upon the number of speakers or Mayor has discretion to allow for additional time beyond the 20 minutes allocated for public comment dependent upon the subject matter or number of speakers. NONE

COUNCILMEMBER(S) REQUESTS FOR FUTURE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS NONE

CITY COUNCIL/CITY STAFF REPORTS/COMMUNICATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/FUTURE MEETINGS:

15. City Manager and/or City Clerk Reports: (This will be either verbal reports at the meeting, or written reports provided at or prior to the meeting)

16. City Council Reports/Committee/Sub-Committee Meeting Reports: (Reports by Mayor/City Councilmembers Regarding Various Agency Meetings/Committee Meetings/Sub-Committee Meeting /Conferences Attended and Possible Direction to its Representatives (If Needed) on Pending issues before such Boards. ((This will be either verbal reports at the meeting, or written reports provided at or prior to the meeting)

17. Council Communications Received (Information/Meetings/Correspondence Received from the General Public to Councilmembers)
CLOSED SESSION: NONE

ADJOURNMENT OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Mayor Zollman adjourned the Regular City Council Meeting of August 5, 2025 at 10:30 pm to the next Regular City Council Meeting of Tuesday, September 5, 2025 at 6:00 pm, Sebastopol Youth Annex, 425 Morris Street, Sebastopol, CA.

The regular City Council Meeting of Tuesday, August 19th, 2025 has been cancelled.

Respectfully submitted,
Mary C. Gourley
Interim City Manager/City Clerk
Attachment: Zoom Transcript
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City Council Meeting - August 5, 2025
PLEASE STAND BY FOR REALTIMECAPTIONS.

COULD YOU CONDUCT ROLL CALL?
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS FOR THE MEETING OF AUGUST 5th. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER? HERE.

COUNCILMEMBER MAURER?
HERE.

MAYOR ZOLLMAN?
PRESENT.

JOIN ME IN A SALUTE TO THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

IF THERE IS A NEED TO ADJUST SCHEDULE, WE WILL DO IT NOW. OUR SUPERVISOR IS NOT ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING AND WE SUGGESTED TO GO TO 6:45 AND THAT WAS NOT AMENABLE AND WE LANDED ON 7:15. IF MY

COLLEAGUES ARE IN AGREEMENT, WE WILL NOT BE CALLING AGENDA ITEM, THAT MEANS WE WOULD NOT START AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 UNTIL 7:15. IS THAT AMENABLE TO MY COLLEAGUES? AGAIN JUST FOR THOSE

HERE PHYSICALLY AND ONLINE, THAT MEANS THAT AGAIN, THE INFORMATIONAL ITEM THE STATE OF OUR HEALTH SERVICES DIVISION WILL NOT BE CALLED ANY EARLIER THAN 7:15 AND THAT MEANS EVEN IF THE SUPERVISOR WERE NOT TO ARRIVE, WE STILL WOULD NOT START THAT UNTIL 7:15 AND THE REST I THINK WE

CAN TAKE IN THE ORDER IN WHICH IT WAS PUBLISHED AND WE WILL THEN MOVE ON TO PROCLAMATIONS AND

WE DO HAVE ONE AND IT IS MY HONOR TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION BECAUSE IT IS A PROCLAMATION TO

HONOR TODAY AS THE WOMEN'S EQUALITY DAY IN THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SERVING WITH OUR WOMEN COLLEAGUES. IT IS AGAIN MY HONOR TO READ THIS AND THIS STATES WHEREAS AMERICA IS THE ONLY NATION IN THE WORLD BASED ON AN IDEA — THE IDEA THAT ALL PEOPLE ARE CREATED EQUAL AND DESERVE TO BE TREATED EQUALLY THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES.; AND SONOMA COUNTY

BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ESTABLISHED THIS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WITH THE PURPOSE OF PROMOTING

EQUAL RIGHTS THAT ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL WOMEN AND GIRLS AND ADDRESSES THE ISSUES OF DISCRIMINATION AND PREJUDICE THAT NEGATIVELY AFFECT WOMEN IN SONOMA COUNTY"; AND ANDS

WHERE WOMEN HAVE GAINED THE RIGHT AS CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES TO WORK, WHEREAS EVEN WITH

THE GAINS WOMEN HAVE MADE WORK REMAINS TO BE DONE IN MANY AREAS THAT DIRECTLY IMPACT EQUAL

PAY FOR EQUAL WORK, INCLUDING ACCESS TO QUALITY, AFFORDABLE CHILD CARE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND

COMPREHENSIVE HEALTHCARE FOR WOMEN, INCLUDING REPRODUCTIVE AND MENTAL HEALTHCARE AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT I MAYOR STEPHEN ZOLLMAN PROCLAIM AUGUST 26, 2025, AS WOMEN'S EQUALITY DAY MARKING THE 125th ANNIVERSARY OF THE ENACTMENT OF THE 19th AMENDMENT CELEBRATING

THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF WOMEN AND RECOMMITTING TO GENDER EQUALITY IN THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL,

INCLUDING EQUAL PAY FOR EQUAL WORK AND ACCELERATING ACTIONS FOR THE OVERALL PROGRESS OF WOMEN. IN WITNESS THEREOF I HAVE HERE D TO SET MY HAND IN THE GREAT CITY OF SEBASTOPOL THIS 5th DAY OF AUGUST, 2025. I HAVE REACHED OUT TO A NUMBER OF WOMEN'S GROUP AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE SOON TO RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION. NEXT WE WILL MOVE INTO STATEMENTS OF

CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND I WILL LOOK TO ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES TO TAKE OVER AGENDA ITEM NUMBER --

EXCUSE ME, THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THOSE WE PLAN TO HAVE IN DESCRIBED ON OUR PEACE WALL WHICH IS --
THAT'S ITEM 8, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, SORRY. I WAS READING DOWN TOO FAR. SO I DO HAVE A PERCEIVED CONFLICT OF INTEREST. SO

WHEN WE GET THROUGH THE CONSENT CALENDAR, I WILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT PULLED, STEP OUT AND THEN HAVE ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES FACILITATE THE PASSAGE OF THAT. SO WITH THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, I'LL GO Page | 14

AHEAD AND I'LL READ THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS OF WHICH THERE ARE SEVERAL, BUT I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT ENTERTAINING.

MAYOR, CAN I JUMP IN? WE DO HAVE THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD PRIOR TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

YES, APOLOGIES, THANK YOU.

I ALSO JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, IF THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM ON THE LIVING PEACE WALL IS JUST FOR A VOTE, YOU WON'T NEED TO STEP OUT. YOU WOULD JUST NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION. IF IT GETS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, THEN YOU WOULD NEED TO RECUSE YOURSELF.

THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS KEEPING EVERYONE IN CHECK.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, THIS IS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. IT IS A TWO MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. I

WILL GO TO IN CHAMBERS FIRST AND OUT TO ZOOM, BACK TO CHAMBERS, OUT TO ZOOM AND THERE'S A TIMER. IF YOU DON'T SEE IT, I'LL JUMP IN WHEN YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.

I'LL SEND A COUPLE PUBLIC COMMENTS IN ABOUT THE ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT. IN MY OPINION THE CITY IS IN DANGER OF GOING BANKRUPT IF WE PROCEED WITHOUT MAKING SURE ALL OF THE FUNDS FOR ST. VINCENT DE

PAUL ARE IN THE BANK FOR THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S A VERY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. REALLY IN MY OPINION THE MONEY SHOULD BE IN ESCROW WITH THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY IS A COSIGNER ON THIS DEAL. WE HAVE VERY LITTLE TO GAIN BUT A LOT TO LOSE IF ANY OF THE LOANS THAT

DON'T COME THROUGH AND THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY LATER ON AS WELL BECAUSE CERTAINLY THE

POLITICAL CLIMATE HAS CHANGED SO MUCH IN THIS CURRENT YEAR IN TERMS OF GRANTS BEING FULFILLED OR WITHDRAWN, SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO I PUT IN MY PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH MAYOR REPOSTED. I DID A PRA A COUPLE WEEKS AGO OF ALL OF THE CONTRACTS WHICH ARE IN THAT PACKET. I URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THAT REALLY CLOSELY BECAUSE BASICALLY WE ARE WIDE OPEN FOR A DEFAULT BY ST. VINCENT DE PAUL OF THEM NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY IS LIKELY TO BE COST OVERRUNS ON THE PROJECT AS WELL. SO AGAIN, YOU

KNOW, BEFORE THEY START BREAKING GROUND, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ABOUT TO DO THAT, I THINK YOU

REALLY NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE COSIGNER ISSUE. SO I'VE SAID IT ALREADY, BUT I FEEL THE MONEY SHOULD ALL BE IN THE BANK AND SHOULD BE IN ESCROW WITH THE CITY TO PROTECT CITY TAXPAYERS. THAT'S KIND OF MY MAIN POINT ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC, BUT IT'S BEEN A VERY BUMPY ROAD. LAST YEAR, OF COURSE, THIS WAS VOTED DOWN I THINK IN APRIL, MARCH OR APRIL, BY THE COUNCIL. THEN ST. VINCENT DE PAUL STARTED BULLYING THE COUNCIL, THREATENING TO SUE. SO I THINK COUNCILMEMBER MAURER CHANGED HER MIND ON THIS WHICH ALLOWED THE PROJECT TO PROCEED, BUT WE HAVE PHILL CARTER WHO IS A NEW COUNCILOR ON THE COUNCIL NOW. I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD TIME TO REVISIT GIVEN THAT DIANA RICH GAVE THE THUMBS UP LAST YEAR BEFORE SHE LEFT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WOULD GO OUT TO ZOOM. KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

I AM UNMUTED. THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN, THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

AS A SEBASTOPOL WATER AND SEWER RATEPAYER, I HAVE DONE RESEARCH INTO THE PUBLIC RECORDS AND WANT TO SHARE WHAT I HAVE FOUND. I WANT TO ESTABLISH A SEPARATE WATER AND SEWER ENTERPRISE FUND DISTRICT BASED ON THE RESEARCH THAT I DID. SEBASTOPOL'S WATER AND SEWER RATES HAVE RISEN DRAMATICALLY OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS. WATER PRICES HAVE RISEN 240% EVEN THOUGH THE COST OF WATER, WHICH IS NOTHING, HAS REMAINED THE SAME. SEBASTOPOL DOES NOT PAY FOR WATER. THE COST TO DELIVER FREE WATER THROUGH EXISTING PIPES HAS RISEN 240% IN THE LAST 15 YEARS. WHY? THESE RATES ARE BASED

ON A FLAWED MODEL IN WHICH THE CITY CHARGES RATEPAYERS FOR UNNECESSARY AND EXORBITANT FEES, LEGAL FEES. IN FISCAL YEAR '24 RATEPAYERS WERE CHARGED $51,618 IN LEGAL FEES. BILLING RECORDS SHOW THAT ONLY $4,926.50 WERE ACTUALLY BILLED BY ATTORNEYS. RATEPAYERS WERE OVERCHARGED BY $46,000.

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BILLING, IN FISCAL YEAR '23 WATER AND SEWER RATEPAYERS WERE CHARGED OVER $900,000 FOR BILLING FEES.

IN COMPARISON SWEETWATER SPRING SENDS OUT APPROXIMATELY 3,600 BILLS. THEY EMPLOY TWO ACCOUNTING CLERKS. TOTAL BILLING SALARIES FOR SWEETWATER SPRINGS IS $103,120. SEBASTOPOL RATEPAYERS ARE BEING OVERCHARGED BY OVER $800,000. MY PUBLIC COMMENT REQUESTING A SPECIAL

ENTERPRISE DISTRICT AND SUPPORT DOCUMENTS ARE POSTED ONLINE IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AREA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. I ENCOURAGE ALL RATEPAYERS TO READ THESE DOCUMENTS AND TO START TO THINK IF

THEY WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SUPPORT A SPECIAL ENTERPRISE DISTRICT FOR OUR WATER AND SEWER ENTERPRISE FUNDS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, KATE, FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WOULD COME INTO CHAMBERS.

HI, EVERYBODY. MY NAME'S KATIE. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ON SEBASTOPOL SENIOR CENTER. I

WANT TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PERSONALLY INVITE ALL THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF AND, OF COURSE, ALL OF YOU, FIRE, POLICE, WONDERFUL SEBASTOPOLIANS TO COME TO OUR OPEN HOUSE AUGUST 20th , A WEDNESDAY, FROM 4:00 TO 6:00. WE'LL HAVE SOME REFRESHMENTS, SOME INSTRUCTOR DEMOS, MUSIC. OUR UKULELE GROUP IS GOING TO PLAY. WE'LL HAVE LOTS OF FUN THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY, KID FRIENDLY, FAMILY FRIENDLY. SO WE HOPE YOU CAN COME CHECK US OUT, SEE WHAT WE DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, KATIE. NEXT I WOULD GO OUT TO ZOOM. KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

YES, I CAN.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN'T. IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A REMINDER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I'M HERE TO HIGHLIGHT RECENT CHANGES IN CALIFORNIA LAW, SPECIFICALLY SENATE BILL 2 FROM 2022 WHICH SHAPED THE LANDSCAPE OF LIABILITY FOR POLICE MISCONDUCT UP AND WHAT THIS MEANS FOR SEBASTOPOL.

UNDER SENATE BILL 2 EFFECTIVE 2022, CALIFORNIA SIGNIFICANTLY LIMITED THE DEFENSE OF QUALIFIED IMMUNITY IN STATE CIVIL RIGHTS CASES. OFFICERS ACCUSED OF SERIOUS MISCONDUCT, SUCH AS EXCESSIVE

FORCE, DENIAL OF MEDICAL CARE, FALSIFYING ARRESTS, CAN NOW BE HELD PERSONALLY LIABLE IN STATE COURT WITHOUT THE SHIELD OF IMMUNITY THAT PREVIOUSLY BLOCKED SUCH CLAIMS. THIS CHARGE HAS REAL CONSEQUENCES FOR CITIES. WHEN AN OFFICER IS SUED UNDER THE STATE LAW AND LOSES THE PROTECTION

OF QUALIFIED IMMUNITIES, SEBASTOPOL MAY BE STILL ON THE HOOK FOR LEGAL DEFENSE, COURT COSTS, AND SETTLEMENTS UNLESS WE HAVE POLICIES TO LIMIT INDEMNIFICATION FOR OFFICERS FOUND LEVEL. IT CREATES A NEW STATE LEVEL DECERTIFICATION PROCESS. OFFICERS FOUND TO HAVE COMMITTED EGREGIOUS

MISCONDUCT CAN NOW BE PERMANENTLY REMOVED FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT UNDERSCORING THE NEED FOR PROACTIVE RISK MANAGEMENT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. GIVEN THIS LEGAL SHIFT, I'M URGING COUNCIL TO

CONSIDER, ONE, REVIEWING OUR INDEMNIFICATION POLICIES TO PROTECT THE CITY FROM COVERING DAMAGES

IN CASE OF PROVEN MISCONDUCT, TWO, EXPLORING SUPPLEMENTAL LIABILITY INSURANCE, EMPLOYEE

COVERED FOR OFFICERS ESPECIALLY IN HIGH RISK ROLES AND ESTABLISHING JOINING A CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT MECHANISM TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WHICH MAY ALSO MITIGATE LITIGATION RISKS.

THESE AREN'T JUST LEGAL DECISIONS. THEY'RE FISCAL, ETHICAL, AND COMMUNITY TRUST ISSUES. 25 SECONDS.

SB 2 GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY AND OBLIGATION TO ALIGN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PRACTICES WITH THE VALUES OF JUSTICE, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KYLE. NEXT IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT NOT ON THE AGENDA. SEEING NONE, I WOULD GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. MARIAH, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

YES. HI. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I CAN. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I WANTED TO HOP ON AND GIVE SOME UPDATES FROM THE CHAMBER. WE HAD OUR SIDEWALK SALE, THE

DOWNTOWN AND THE CHAMBER TOOK OUT AN AD IN THE PRESS DEMOCRAT, LIVE MUSIC IN THE PLAZA AND A Page | 16
NEW HOTDOG STAND, JUST HOTDOGS, HAD THEIR BEST DAY YET ON THE SIDEWALK SALE, WHICH WAS GREAT.

AND THEN WE HAD OUR MOVIE NIGHT, WHICH WAS THE THIRD AN NEWSPAPER, OUR BIGGEST ONE YET. WE HAD ABOUT 300 PEOPLE. FAMILIES CAME OUT, HAD A REALLY NICE TIME. THE RIALTO DONATES POPCORN FOR THE EVENT. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT SPONSOR THE EVENT SO WE CAN KEEP IT FREE, WHICH IS REALLY NICE FOR THE COMMUNITY. COMING UP, WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY AWARDS. THE

NOMINATIONS FOR CITIZEN OF THE YEAR, BUSINESS OF THE YEAR, ALL OF THOSE AWARDS JUST WENT LIVE TODAY ON THE CHAMBER SITE. IF ANYONE LISTENING WANTS TO NOMINATE AN INDIVIDUAL OR BUSINESS WHO IS MAKING CHANGE IN THE COMMUNITY, GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. WE WILL HAVE THAT EVENT AT RUSSIAN RIVER VINEYARDS ON NOVEMBER 1st. SO THOSE ARE THE UPDATES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MARIAH. NEXT I WOULD COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AN ITEM NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. PLEASE.

MY NAME'S KATHLEEN. AN ARTICLE GOING AROUND JUST YESTERDAY WAS INDICATING THAT OUR TRUMP

ADMINISTRATION MIGHT BE CHANGING FUNDING TOWARDS INSTEAD OF HOUSING FIRST TO REQUIRE PEOPLE TO BE CLEAN AND SOBER BEFORE GETTING HOUSING. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THE FUNDING I'VE WORKED AT THE ST. VINCENT DE PAUL COMMONS IN SANTA ROSA AND THAT IS A HOUSING FIRST MODEL. SO WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE CHANGES IN THE FUNDING. THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AND YOU

ALL CAN THINK ABOUT IT, BUT THERE ARE RESIDENTS AT THE COMMONS IN SANTA ROSA THAT HAVE

SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT COULD MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR IF WE GO AHEAD WITH THE GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS HERE. SO I COULD PRESENT THOSE AT A FUTURE MEETING IF THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AN ITEM NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, I

WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS ONE LAST TIME IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AN ITEM NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO RAISED QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT GRAVENSTEIN HEALTH

AND THE GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS, YES, WE'VE ALREADY ANTICIPATED, SO PLEASE PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDAR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING SEPTEMBER 2nd, 6:00 P.M. THEY'LL BE INVITED TO PROVIDE AN INFORMATIONAL OVERVIEW TO ADDRESS MANY THINGS, ESPECIALLY THE STATE OF THE FUNDING SITUATION. SO AGAIN, SEPTEMBER 2nd, NEXT COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE WE WON'T MEET IN TWO WEEKS, 6:00 P.M., HOPE TO SEE YOU OR RECEIVE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN ADVANCE. THANK YOU. NOW I WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. SO THE FIRST ONE IS APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF JULY 15th, 2025, APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT TO CITY COUNCIL PROTOCOLS POLICY NUMBER 6, AGENDA REVIEW COMMITTEE/AGENDA PREPARATION, PLACEMENTS OF ITEMS ONTO THE AGENDA, POLICY NUMBER 7, RULES FOR THE CONDUCT OF ITS MEETINGS, PROCEEDINGS, AND STEP BUSINESS. THOSE TWO HAVE NO FISCAL IMPACTS. THREE, TO DESIGNATE THE POLICE CHIEF TO THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DUE TO THE REORGANIZATION OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO THE GOLD RIDGE FIRE DISTRICT. AGAIN, NO FISCAL IMPACT. NUMBER 4, APPROVAL OF REQUESTS OR PROPOSALS OF RECRUIT. FIRMS FOR RECRUITMENT OF THE CITY MANAGER POSITION AND AUTHORIZATION TO RELEASE REQUESTS FOR PROPOSAL, THE FISCAL IMPACT. THERE IS NO FISCAL IMPACT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. 35,000 HAS BEEN ALLOCATED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 25/26 BUDGET FOR RECRUITMENT OF THE CITY MANAGER POSITION. NUMBER 5, APPROVAL FOR AUTHORIZATION OF THE STAFF COORDINATION WITH THE SEBASTOPOL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNICATIONS UNIT REGARDING COMMUNITYBASED EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS PROPOSAL. THERE IS NO FISCAL IMPACT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM OTHER THAN STAFF TIME. ANY REQUESTS FOR BUDGET WILL BE PROPOSED -- SORRY, WE CAN KIND OF

KEEP THE WHISPERING DOWN IN THE CHAMBERS AREA, THAT WOULD BE GREAT -- FISCAL IMPACT, THERE IS NO FISCAL IMPACT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM OF EVENT STAFF TIME. ANY REQUESTS FOR BUDGET WILL BE PROPOSED TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE FOLLOWED BY CONSIDERATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL AT A PUBLICLYNOTICED CITY COUNCIL MEETING. NUMBER 6, APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE TECHNICIAN JOB DESCRIPTION TO INCLUDE MAY BE TASKED SUPERVISORY LEAD DUTIES AS NEEDED. FISCAL Page | 17
IMPACT, THERE IS NONE. NUMBER 7, ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY ENGINEER CONSULTANT TO SIGN FORMS AND DOCUMENTS PERTAINING TO CALTRANS AND TRANSPORTATION GRANTS.

WITH THE RETIREMENT OF THE CURRENT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR/CITY ENGINEER EFFECTIVE AUGUST 10th OF

THIS YEAR A NEW ASSIGNMENT FOR CONTRACT CITY ENGINEER IS REQUIRED BY CALTRANS FOR SIGNING AUTHORITY FOR TRANSPORTATION GRANT PROJECTS. FISCAL IMPACT, THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL FISCAL IMPACT WITH APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. FUNDING HAS BEEN ALLOCATED IN A 25/26 BUDGET FOR THE CITY ENGINEER SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $50,000. THE CITY WILL BE CONDUCTING A RECRUITMENT IN THE FUTURE FOR THIS DEPARTMENT VACANCY. NUMBER 8, APPROVAL OF THE ANNUAL PEACE WALL HONOREES, COUNCIL ACCEPT THE PEACE WALL HONOREES AS NOMINATED BY THE SEBASTOPOL LIVING PEACE WALL SELECTION COMMITTEE.

THE PERSONS PROPOSED TO BE HONORED TO THE PEACE WALL ARE REQUIRED TO BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY COUNCIL SINCE THE WALL IS LOCATED ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. UPON COUNCIL APPROVAL, THEIR NAMES WILL BE INSCRIBED ONTO THE LIVING PEACE WALL. THERE IS NO FISCAL IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING THE COUNCIL APPROVED WAIVER OF FEES FOR THIS EVENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $450. THOSE ARE THE CONSENT ITEMS. I'M LOOKING TO MY COLLEAGUES ON MY LEFT TO SEE IF ANYBODY WISHES TO PULL AN ITEM. OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER MAURER.

THIS IS DIRECTED TO STAFF, PLEASE. ON ITEM NUMBER 5 ABOUT SCNU AND MYN, IT SAYS IT WAS REQUESTED

THERE BE ONE SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT WITH BOTH THOSE GROUPS AND I KNOW THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION BETWEEN THOSE TWO GROUPS. I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO PULL IT, BUT CAN WE MAKE A MINOR CORRECTION AND JUST SAY TWO SO THAT YOU'RE GETTING BOTH POINTS OF VIEW? TURNING TO ALEX.

LET ME CLARIFY. ISN'T IT SAYING THERE SHOULD BE ONE POINT OF CONTACT WITH THE CITY FOR BOTH OF THE

TWO GROUPS, NOT THAT THE CITY WILL ONLY COMMUNICATE WITH ONE OF --

IT'S ON PAGE FIVE OF SEVEN AND IT SAYS IT WAS REQUESTED THAT THERE BE ONE SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT WITH THE SEBASTOPOL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNICATIONS UNIT AS WELL AS THE MAP YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IS THAT ONE SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE CITY OR ONE SINGLE CONTACT FOR THE GROUPS? I WOULD INTERPRET THAT TO BE THAT WE HAVE TWO. WE HAVE ONE FROM THE MAP MEET YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ONE FOR SCNU.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO SEE BOTH SIDES OF THAT CONFLICT ARE REPRESENTED.

CORRECT. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE TO MY LEFT? TO MY RIGHT, ANYBODY? OKAY. WE'LL GO OUT TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1 THROUGH 8. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL GO TO IN CHAMBERS FIRST. SEEING NONE, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. ROBERT, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

YEAH. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I CAN. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I SENT A WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENT AND MAY NOT HAVE PENETRATED WITH ALL THE COMMENTS TONIGHT,

BUT I FEEL LIKE YOU SHOULD PROBABLY PULL THIS ONE TO MAKE THE POLICE CHIEF HEAD OF THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, WHATEVER IT IS. THAT WHOLE PROCESS STARTED LONG BEFORE OUR CURRENT POLICE CHIEF WAS IN PLACE. IT STARTED BEFORE GOLD RIDGE HAD BEEN FINALIZED AND IT WAS SORT OF LIKE THE

POLICE WAS THE ONLY PLACE TO GO WITH THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FIRE STATION ANYMORE, BUT IN THINKING IT THROUGH, IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY WHERE DO YOU WANT YOUR POLICE CHIEF? DO

YOU WANT HIM SUPERVISING THE EOC OR IN A CAR ALONG WITH THREE OR FOUR OTHER POLICE PEOPLE WHO

MIGHT BE ON DUTY OUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, HELP PEOPLE, MOBILIZE EMERGENCY SERVICES TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND PLACES? YOU ONLY HAVE ON A GOOD DAY FIVE OFFICERS ON DUTY. THAT'S Page | 18
MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY DAYTIME, I GUESS. AT NIGHT AND WEEKENDS YOU PROBABLY DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT. IF THE CHIEF ISN'T IN A CAR HELPING, THAT'S 20% FEWER PEOPLE ON THE STREETS. ADDITIONALLY THIS, WHOLE THING REQUIRES DISPATCHERS TO BE SETTING UP EQUIPMENT. IT REQUIRES PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE TO SETTING UP WORKSTATIONS AND MOVING BOARDS AROUND. REALISTICALLY YOU WANT YOUR DISPATCHERS DISPATCHING. YOU WANT YOUR PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE OUT IN THE STREETS, ALSO, YOU KNOW, AND AT THE SAME TIME WE NOW ARE WITH GOLD RIDGE. IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY THAT'S BIG ENOUGH TO INVOKE US,

IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO INVOKE GOLD RIDGE, TOO, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE SETTING UP THEIR OWN EMERGENCY CENTER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS ALL BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THEM AND WORKED OUT. IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE ON THIS RATHER THAN MAKE THIS AN ORDINANCE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT I WOULD COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CALENDAR ITEMS? SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK TO ZOOM IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. SEEING NONE, THIS IS CLOSED ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS.

THE FIRST MOTION WOULD BE FOR 1 THROUGH 7 AND THEN YOU WOULD NEED TO RECUSE YOURSELF FOR

ITEM --
YES, THANK YOU FOR REFRESHING MY MEMORY. A MOTION FOR ITEMS 1 THROUGH 7.

I'M HAPPY TO MOVE ITEMS 1 THROUGH 7 ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

SECOND.

THANK YOU. SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER HINTON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE THESE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1 THROUGH 7.

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?
YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
AYE.

MAYOR ZOLLMAN?
YES.

THE MEASURE PASSES WITH FOUR IN FAVOR.

THANK YOU. NOW TO CALL THE RESIDUAL ONE.

CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NUMBER 8 I WILL MOVE.

SECOND.

I WILL RECUSE MYSELF.

THANK YOU. THIS IS FOR APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NUMBER 8. SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER HINTON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MAURER. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER? YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
AYE.

COUNCILMEMBER MAURER?
YES.

MOTION PASSES 3-1-1 WITH COUNCILMEMBERS CARTER, HINTON, AND MAURER IN SUPPORT. MAYOR ZOLLMAN ABSTAINING.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION, THE HOTEL SEBASTOPOL DEVELOPMENT UPDATE,

THIS IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE APPLICANT TO RETURN ANNUAL FOR UPDATES ON THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT. THIS ITEM WAS RESCHEDULED FROM THE JULY 15th CITY COUNCIL MEETING. RESPONSIBLE DEPARTMENT IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. WITH THAT I'LL TURN TO OUR WONDERFUL INTERIM GENERAL MANAGER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M LOOKING AT ZOOM REALLY QUICK TO SEE IF DANIEL PETROLI IS HERE. SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE YOU, MY APOLOGIES. AS YOU STATED, MAYOR, THIS IS AN UPDATE, THE HOTEL SEBASTOPOL, THE 66-ROOM BOUTIQUE HOTEL WHICH IS GOING TO BE AT 6828 DEPOT STREET WITH PARKING ON BROWN STREET, WAS Page | 19
APPROVED IN 2017. THEIR PERMIT IS CURRENTLY ACTIVE UNTIL JUNE OF 2027 AND IS PART OF THE APPROVAL OF THE EXTENSION OF THE APPROVAL TO GIVE AN UPDATE EACH YEAR. I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT OVER TO YOU.

PERFECT. GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS. I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER WITH THE HOTEL SEBASTOPOL PROJECT. I'M JOINED HERE THIS EVENING BY MY COLLEAGUE, CO-FOUNDER OF PIAZZA HOSPITALITY. WE'RE HERE

BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A YEAR SINCE WE WERE WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND PER STIPULATED

THROUGH THE AGREEMENT WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WORK DONE AND WHERE WE STAND MOVING TOWARDS GROUNDBREAKING. AT A HIGH LEVEL WE REMAIN VERY COMMITTED AND EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT. WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT SEBASTOPOL AND BRINGING A PIAZZA HOTEL TO TOWN. WE JUST

HAVE TO CONTINUE TO NAVIGATE THE SORT OF UNPRECEDENTED CURVE BALLS WE'VE BEEN THROWN THE PAST FEW YEARS AND GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN BREAK GROUND. WHEN WE LAST SPOKE, WE HAD JUST

SECURED APPROVAL ON A CONSTRUCTION LOAN PACKAGE THAT COMBINED VARIOUS PODS OF FEDERAL

FUNDING AND AS A RESULT OF THAT FEDERAL FUNDING, THERE IS A VERY LONG APPROVALS PROCESS WHERE

WE BASICALLY WENT THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW A SECOND TIME BECAUSE FEDERAL ENVIRONMENT REVIEW IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN STATE REVIEW. UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE THE REVIEW TOOK SO LONG

WHEN WE STARTED THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WE WERE IN A VERY FAVORABLE LOW RATE LENDING ENVIRONMENT. BY THE TIME OF APPROVAL WE HAD TRANSITIONED INTO A MUCH HIGHER RATE ENVIRONMENT WHICH DIDN'T ALLOW THE PROJECT TO PENCIL. THAT WAS A YEAR AGO. THANKFULLY, THE APPROVAL WAS GOOD FOR ONE CALENDAR YEAR. THE HOPE WAS MAYBE THE RATES WILL COME DOWN. MAYBE WE CAN USE THIS FUNDING PACKAGE TO MOVE FORWARD. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN EITHER. SO WE'VE HAD

TO MAKE THE DIFFICULT AND UPSETTING DECISION CONSIDERING HOW LONG IT TOOK US AND HOW MUCH WORK WAS INVOLVED TO MOVE ON FROM THAT FUNDING PACKAGE. SO WE'RE NOT PURSUING THAT LOAN ANYMORE. SO NOW WE'RE IN A RENEWED FUNDING PUSH WHERE OUR THOUGHT IS TO USE ONE OF THOSE

FEDERAL LOANS REFERRED TO AS THE C PACE PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY FOR PROJECTS WITH LOTS OF SUSTAINABILITY MEASURES FOR WHICH WE QUALIFY. WE'RE PREAPPROVED FOR THAT LOAN. COMBINE IT WITH MORE TRADITIONAL FINANCING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN BREAK GROUND. THE ELEPHANT IN THE

ROOM IS THAT RATES ARE STILL HIGH AND SO WE ARE STILL KIND OF WAITING FOR THAT ENVIRONMENT TO IMPROVE. IT SEEMS LIKE SOME ACTORS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL ARE PUSHING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO WE'RE SORT OF OBVIOUSLY KEEPING OUR EYES ON THAT. I FEEL LIKE I'M GIVING YOU GUYS A LOT OF BAD NEWS AT ONCE AND I APOLOGIZE. I'LL GET TO THE GOOD PART SOON, TOO. ADDITIONALLY, I THINK THE SORT OF

VOLATILITY OF CONSTRUCTION PRICING IS ANOTHER HURDLE THAT WE FACED, INCREDIBLY VOLATILE TARIFFS AT

FEDERAL LEVEL THAT SORT OF WREAKED HAVOC ON THE CONSTRUCTION MARKET AND I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT ALONE WHEN IT COMES TO HOSPITALITY PROJECTS IN SONOMA. THERE ARE PRODUCTS IN KATATI AND WINDSOR. IN WINDSOR THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION AND STOPPED BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY TO MOVE

FORWARD IN THIS LENDING ENVIRONMENT AND WITHOUT THE SORT OF PREDICTABILITY THAT DEVELOPMENT NEEDS IN ORDER TO HAPPEN, RIGHT? THAT SAID, WE GIVEN ALL THIS HAVE REALLY STARTED TO SHARPEN OUR PENCILS AND TRY AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO CHANGE THE PROJECT TO MAKE IT MORE BUILDABLE. THAT

INCLUDES -- AND I THINK WE MENTIONED THIS LAST YEAR -- WE REMOVED THE BASEMENT LEVEL OF THE PROJECT WHICH SAVES $1.5 MILLION AND IT ALSO FOR OUR NEIGHBORS IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS

WOULD MAKE THE PROJECT ITSELF A LITTLE BIT LESS IMPACTFUL WHEN WE EVENTUALLY DO BREAK GROUND

AND WE'VE ALSO STARTED TO LOOK AT OUR -- WE HAVE A BUILDING ALONG PETALUMA AVENUE THAT IS A

TWO-STORY BUILDING WITH RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM, HOTEL ROOMS ON THE TOP AND IN THE BACK ON THE FIRST FLOOR SOME OF OUR WELLNESS SUITES, WELLNESS TREATMENT ROOMS. WE'VE LOOKED AT ELIMINATING THAT BUILDING ENTIRELY, SAVING $5 MILLION AND DOING A ONE-STORY RETAIL ONLY BUILDING THAT SORT OF

BOTH FRONTS THE STREET TO MAINTAIN RETAIL FRONTAGE AND ALSO FRONTS WHAT WOULD BECOME A MORE GENEROUS GARDEN AND POOL AREA. IT'S THAT LEVEL OF CHANGE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WE THINK WILL MAKE THE PROJECT MORE INTERESTING IN ADDITION TO BUILDABLE. THOSE ARE JUST IDEAS THAT WE'RE STILL

FINALIZING AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE SOMETHING OF THAT SCALE WE WOULD HAVE TO RUN BY STAFF AND THEN

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GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE WE CAN GET TO THE POINT OF GETTING SHOVELS IN THE GROUND. YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED WE'VE BEEN DOING THINGS TO TRY AND ACTIVATE THE SITE, MAKE IT MORE PRESENTABLE BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT DOWNTOWN. WEEDS GROW VERY QUICKLY. WE'VE PARTNERED WITH SEBASTOPOL CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND HAVE AN ART INSTALLATION ON SITE THROUGH THE SUMMER. WE'VE

ALSO GIVEN OUR -- WE HAVE ANCILLARY LOTS ON GROUND STREET WHICH WE'VE GIVEN TO THE FARMERS MARKET ON SUNDAYS, ON MARKET DAYS TO, USE AS PARKING FOR MERCHANTS. WE'RE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU

ALL TO ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS, IF YOU WANT TO PUT US IN CONTACT WITH FOLKS WHO MIGHT

MAKE INTERIM BENEFIT OF THE LOT FOR BOTH THE SEBASTOPOL CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND THE FARMERS MARKET. WE'VE LEASED IT TO THEM, BUT WE'RE NOT CHARGING THEM ANYTHING TO USE IT. SO THAT'S KIND OF A CHRONICLE WHERE WE ARE ONE YEAR SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED. WE'RE HAPPY

TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AND FOR NEW MEMBERS ON COUNCIL, I'M ALSO HAPPY TO

ARRANGE A ONE-ON-ONE MEETING IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH OUR PROJECT PLANS AND I CAN EXPLAIN THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT IN MORE DETAIL TO YOU ALL.

QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES. SORRY. I LOOKED THIS WAY.

SO THE NEW IDEA OF THE FIRST FLOOR.

YES.

WOULD THAT BE BUILT SO THAT POSSIBLY DOWN THE ROAD YOU COULD ADD THE SECOND FLOOR BECAUSE WE HAVE BUILDINGS IN TOWN THAT BUILT A FALSE SECOND FLOOR THAT CAN NEVER BE OCCUPIED? SURE, YEAH.

YOU GOT TO BUILD IT SO WE CAN ADD DOWN THE ROAD. IS THAT THE PLAN? YEAH. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS IT WOULD BE SOME SORT OF -- I HATE TO USE THE WORD SHIPPING

CONTAINER BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY THERE, BUT SOME SORT OF TEMPORARY STYLE ONE-STORY

RETAIL BUILDING THAT STILL LOOKS VERY, VERY NICE AND PROVIDES A GREAT RETAIL FRONTAGE, BUT IT'S

SOMETHING THAT WOULD NOT BE OUT OF THE SCOPE OF REALITY TO ONE DAY SORT OF TAKE DOWN AND THEN BUILD WHAT WAS INTENDED, THE TWO-STORY FRONTAGE.

I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU UP ON YOUR IDEA TO MEET.

OF COURSE.

YOU CAN FIND MY EMAIL OR WHATEVER.

YEAH.

AND THEN, B, IT'S GOING TO BE THREE YEARS TILL THERE'S A FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT TO BUILD EASILY AND, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION COSTS AREN'T GOING TO GET CHEAPER. ALSO YOU'RE FACING ECONOMIC HEADWINDS IN STAYCATIONS AND THESE KINDS OF THINGS. THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT I'VE GOT CONCERNS ABOUT, BUT THEN ALSO THERE'S THE FENCE. I LOVE THAT THERE'S ART THERE. I THINK YOU'RE EXTREMELY GENEROUS HELPING THE FARMERS MARKET. I KNOW THAT HELPS A TON. I'M WONDERING IF THEY COULD ACTUALLY VEND ON THE PROPERTY OR POSSIBLY COULD THIS BE LIKE A POP-UP PARK FOR THE CITY?

WHAT KIND OF LIABILITY THING WOULD WE LOOK AT, MAINTENANCE ISSUES, BUT I'M WONDERING IF IT COULD

BE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A VIBRANT SPACE AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT THROUGH MANY OF MY IDEAS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO. I THINK IT COULD BE FUN, YOU KNOW.

YEAH, OF COURSE. WE AGAIN ARE VERY OPEN TO SORT OF ANYTHING THAT HAS LEGS AND THAT WORKS FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES. THERE'S PROBABLY GRADING THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN IF YOU'RE OPENING UP TO THE PUBLIC 24/7, RIGHT? THESE ARE THINGS TO SORT OF THINK THROUGH, BUT I THINK WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S UNLIKELY THAT TOMORROW WE GO OUT AND BUILD IT. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY LOVELY

AND WORKS FOR INSURANCE AND IS A LITTLE BIT MORE PERMANENT THAN SAY A PIECE OF ARTWORK THAT IS PLACED IN THE FIELD, WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO IT.

COUNCILMEMBER MAURER.

SO HAVE YOU CONSIDERED REDUCING THE NUMBER OF ROOMS, FOR EXAMPLE, TO 39? I KNOW YOU HAVE ANOTHER HOTEL, COUPLE OTHER HOTELS THAT ARE SMALLER LIKE THAT. SO HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT? Page | 21
YES. SO THE PROPOSED REDESIGN OF THE PETALUMA BUILDING WOULD REDUCE IT BY SIX ROOMS, SO WE'D GO TO 60 ROOMS AND THEN ANOTHER SORT OF THING WE'RE TOYING WITH IS REALIGNING THE PUBLIC AMENITIES IN THE HOTEL TO OCCUPY SOME OF THE SECOND LEVEL ROOMS. I DON'T HAVE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD HOW MANY THAT WOULD DECREASE IT BY, BUT YEAH, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT. YOU

KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD BECAUSE WHEN YOU START ELIMINATING ROOMS, YOU START ELIMINATING REVENUE STREAMS, RIGHT? THAT AFFECTS THE NUMBERS AND AFFECTS THE ABILITY FOR US TO

ACHIEVE FINANCING, BUT WE THINK THAT THERE'S A HAPPY MEDIUM TO FIND AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO RUNNING THE NUMBERS AND SEEING THAT IT WORKS.

SURE.

THIS WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED OF ME. WHY DO YOU NEED 122 PARKING SPACES AND DO YOU HAVE BIKE PARKING PLANS?
SO WE -- AT THE TIME OF THE ENTITLEMENTS, WE FOLLOWED CITY REGULATIONS. SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE PROVIDING AS MUCH PARKING AS WE ARE PROVIDING. WE'RE PROVIDING THE PARKING IN TANDEM ON OUR

BROWN STREET LOTS, BUT THEN ALSO THE WAY THAT THE CODE IS WRITTEN IS THAT OUR STREET FRONTAGE ON STREET SPACES ALSO COUNT TOWARDS OUR REQUIREMENT. YOU KNOW, I AM TRAINED AS AN URBAN PLANNER.

SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO US REDUCE PARKING, I PERSONALLY AM ALL FOR IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S CITY

RULES AND REGULATIONS, BUT IN TERMS OF BIKE PARKING, YES, WE HAVE BIKE PARKING ON SITE BOTH INDOOR

AND OUTDOOR AND WE ALSO ARE GOING TO PROVIDE FREE BIKE SHARE FOR BOTH OUR GUESTS AND EMPLOYEES.

GREAT. I'M GOING TO MIRROR COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S COMMENTS. YES, THE INTEREST RATES, I HAVE HEARD THAT FOR MANY YEARS AND I DON'T SEE IT CHANGING EITHER. SO JUST TO BE ABLE TO COME IN, THAT

WAS YOUR FIRST REQUIRED YEAR IN, BUT I REALLY CAN'T ANTICIPATE YOU SEEING ANYTHING DIFFERENT NEXT YEAR AND WE ALREADY APPROVED THE CONTINUATION OF YOUR PERMIT FOR FOUR YEARS. SO IF THAT REALLY

IS IT AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING -- SO YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO

WHAT WE COULD DO TO FOLLOW COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S SUGGESTION ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT SPACE UNTIL SOMETHING MAGICAL HAPPENS AND RATES FALL.

THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY, WE'RE NOT A MULTINATIONAL HOTEL DEVELOPER. WE'RE NOT A HILTON. SO FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS TO FAIL AND THAT MEANS EITHER WE DON'T BUILD IT AND WE EAT THE AMOUNT OF THE $8

MILLION THAT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT ON GETTING THE ENTITLEMENTS AND THE LAND AND ALL OF THE

HOLDING COSTS OR IF WE BUILD IT AND IT FAILS IN A BUSINESS TERM, I MEAN OUR COMPANY IS A MOM AND POP LOCAL COMPANY. WE CAN'T ABSORB, THAT RIGHT? THAT'S WHY WE'RE BEING ESPECIALLY I THINK CONSERVATIVE IN SORT OF WAITING TO BREAK GROUND. THAT SAID, I MEAN I THINK THAT YES, THE LENDING

ENVIRONMENT IS UNLIKELY TO SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, BUT I THINK WE WILL SEE SOME MOVEMENT. SO I THINK OUR GAME PLAN IS TO USE BOTH THAT MOVEMENT AND THE SORT OF MORE

DRASTIC VALUE ENGINEERING EFFORTS TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN BREAK GROUND, BUT I THINK WE ARE VERY MOTIVATED TO SEE THIS THROUGH BECAUSE WE'VE SPENT SO MUCH MONEY TO DATE. WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT TO DATE. I STARTED AT THIS COMPANY TEN YEARS AGO AND WE HAD JUST GOTTEN GOING. I'M STILL HERE. I HAVE A LOT MORE GRAY HAIRS NOW. WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO GET IT GOING.

WE'RE JUST BEING AS THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST ABSORB IT IF IT WERE SOMETHING TO FAIL. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
THANK YOU. SO GETTING BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S SECOND THOUGHT ABOUT HOW TO MAKE THIS NOT BE "AN EYESORE" BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD THAT IN WRITING, ORALLY, OR YEARS FROM NOW. SO YOU

HAD SUGGESTED OR SORT OF IMPLIED THAT SOMETHING COULD BE DONE WITH THAT LOT SUBJECT TO LIABILITY. SO ARE YOU ABLE TO GO THROUGH YOUR INSURER AND THEN EMAIL OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO

LET US KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE NOT KNOWING WHAT IS POSSIBLE IS HARD TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS, CONCERNS FROM OUR PUBLIC?
YEAH. WHAT I WILL SAY IS -- AND IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL -- WE WERE WORKING WITH A

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BASIS. HE WAS GOING THROUGH THE USE PERMIT PROCESS WITH THE CITY. TO BE HONEST, THIS IS A GOOD REMINDER I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN UPDATE WHERE HE STANDS WITH THAT. IN THAT PROCESS THERE'S AN INSURANCE CHECK PROCESS AS WELL. SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD KNOW FAIRLY SOON, BUT I CAN -- I'M SORRY. I FORGET THAT GENTLEMAN'S NAME. THE OWNER OF SOFT MEDICINE, IS IT JONATHAN? SO I CAN CHECK

IN WITH HIM AND MAYBE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON OUR ONE-ON-ONE I CAN PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE AND, MAYOR ZOLLMAN, IF WE DO A ONE-ON-ONE, I CAN PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE AS WELL.

I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT MY REQUEST IS TO RUN IT THROUGH YOUR INSURANCE CARRIER AND EMAIL MARY

WHAT IS POSSIBLE AFTER YOU CHECK WITH THE INSURANCE BECAUSE AGAIN, HAVING SOMETHING EMORPHOUS IS NOT GOING TO HELP US ADDRESS QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.

I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION AND COMMENT. IS THE HOSTEL ROOMS AND BIKE STILL PART OF THE PLAN? YES.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING. I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE WINDSOR PROJECT AND I KNOW THAT PROJECTS ARE FALLING APART BECAUSE OF INTEREST RATES. IT'S A REALITY AND I APPRECIATE YOUR INVESTMENT YOU'VE MADE IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOU'VE BEEN HERE AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE, 2016, NINE YEARS, AND YOU GUYS ARE BACK HERE TRYING TO MAKE THE PROJECT HAPPEN. SO WHILE IT'S NOT PERFECT, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. I WANTED TO USE THIS MOMENT TO ALSO THANK THE CITY AND ALL OF ITS VARIOUS STAFF AND COUNCILMEMBERS AND COMMISSIONERS PAST AND PRESENT. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH -- GOT OUR ENTITLEMENTS IN 2027. THEN THERE WERE FIRES IN 2027 -- 2018, FIRES IN 2019, THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC IN 2020 AND NOW WE'RE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT OF HIGH TARIFFS AND HIGH LENDING RATES. SO WE'RE TRYING

OUR BEST TO SORT OF TAKE THE PUNCHES AS THEY COME AND, YEAH, I THINK THE CITY HAS BEEN A REALLY GREAT PARTNER FOR US.

IT DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED. THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS AROUND TOWN AND WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO OUR BEST. SO I APPRECIATE YOU COMING. THIS IS A TOUGH SPOT TO BE IN.

SURE.

AND YOU GUYS HAVE INVESTED $8 MILLION SO FAR. WE HEAR THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO SUPPORT SEBASTOPOL.

OF COURSE. THE.

ARE THERE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM --
THANK YOU FOR COMING AND GIVING US THIS PRESENTATION.

HAPPY TO.

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?
I JUST WANT TO REITERATE I DON'T WANT YOU TO EAT $8 MILLION. I WANT TO SEE A LOT OF SUCCESS.

ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP THIS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO YEAH, GET IN TOUCH WITH ME.

OF COURSE.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. SO, MARY, PUBLIC COMMENT?
THANK YOU. YOU CAN SIT DOWN WHEN WE DO PUBLIC COMMENT. THANKS. THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE INFORMATIONAL ITEM ON THE HOTEL SEBASTOPOL. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL COME INTO CHAMBERS FIRST. SEEING NONE, NEXT I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. LINDA, CAN YOU UNMUTE, PLEASE.

YES. AND I CAN SEE THE TIMER.

AWESOME. THANK YOU.

I'M JUST GOING TO COMPLIMENT -- I DON'T KNOW WHOSE IDEA THAT WAS, BUT I LOVE THE ART INSTALLATIONS. I'LL GO TO MY HAIRDRESSER WHO IS RIGHT ON THAT STREET OR GO TO SCREAMING MIMI'S AND WALK PAST THOSE WHERE MY CAR IS PARKED. I LOVE THE FACES. I REALLY LOVE THE HEART THAT I GUESS WAS DISPLAYED AT BURNING MAN. IF THERE'S A WAY TO AT LEAST HAVE A SECTION OR A LITTLE PART WHERE WE

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ART PROJECTS? I REALLY LOVE THOSE AND I THINK IF THE FENCE IS REMOVED, UNLESS THAT'S PROTECTING THE

ART -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS -- I THINK THAT WOULD EVEN MAKE IT LOOK BETTER AND IF YOU DON'T

WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON GRASS, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, COMPRESSED GRANITE AND GRAVEL AND PLANTS YOU CAN USE. I REALLY AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE ART THAT YOU'VE PUT UP THERE.

THANK YOU, LINDA. NEXT I'LL COME INTO CHAMBERS.

A NOTE ABOUT TAKING THE FENCES DOWN BECAUSE THERE'S A BIG CLEARANCE ON THE BACK LOT WHICH METAL HAD TO BE FENCED OFF. IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN SAM'S WERE AT THEIR HEIGHTS, THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING LET'S HAVE RV PARKING ON THAT PIECE OF LAND. IT'S INTERESTING WE HAVE THE COUNTY PEOPLE HERE WHO HAS TO HEAR ALL THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A CONSTANT BATTLE. TO THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL DO WE HAVE A TOURISM INDUSTRY OR A NONPROFIT HOMELESS INDUSTRY? RIGHT NOW I WOULD ARGUE THE HOMELESS NONPROFIT INDUSTRY IS WINNING, AS I POINTED OUT, ST. VINCENT DE PAUL. I THINK IT'S GREAT THESE GUYS WANT TO BUILD THIS HOTEL. I'D LIKE TO KNOW BEHIND THE SCENES WHAT THEY REALLY

THINK ABOUT THE STATE OF DOWNTOWN SEBASTOPOL BECAUSE THE TOWN SQUARE IS IMPROVING A LOT, BUT THE TOWN SQUARE HISTORICALLY HASN'T BEEN SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO PAY $400 A NIGHT FOR A HOTEL ROOM, NOR ARE THEY GOING TO ARRIVE ON A BICYCLE AND PARK IT. SO, YOU KNOW, GETTING BACK TO REALITY, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ARRIVE IN CARS FROM SOMEWHERE OR OTHER. THEY EXPECT TO HAVE A QUALITY EXPERIENCE AND A RELATIVELY EXPENSIVE HOTEL. THEY EXPECT TO GO OUT AND EAT IN OUR RESTAURANTS AND SO ON. THEY DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE TO NAVIGATE THEIR WAY PAST BASICALLY HOMELESS

PEOPLE CAMPED OUT IN THE GAZEBO IN THE TOWN SQUARE SMOKING WEED AND SHOUTING AT PEOPLE WALKING PAST. SO THIS IS REALLY THE CENTRAL FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE AROUND THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL'S ECONOMY AT THIS POINT IN 2025. I DON'T BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BUILD A HOTEL ANYTIME SOON FOR THE REASONS I JUST SAID. I THINK A LOT OF THIS IS BASICALLY AN EXCUSE AROUND FUNDING AND SO ON, SO FORTH. WE REALLY HAVE TO GET TO GRIPS WITH THIS REALITY FOR THE LOCAL ECONOMY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT I WOULD GO OUT TO ZOOM. KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN, THANKS.

THANK YOU.

I WOULD JUST THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. ONE THING THAT I WOULD -- YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THE LOT WILL REMAIN VACANT AT LEAST TWO TO THREE MORE YEARS. SO ONE THING THAT THE CITY REALLY

NEEDS IS IT A BETTER CONNECTION BETWEEN MAIN STREET AND THE BARLOW AND I KNOW THE HOTEL'S PLANS

CALL FOR WIDER SIDEWALKS, BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO ACTUALLY CREATE A MUCH WIDER PATHWAY FROM

THE CROSSWALK, THERE IS A VERY LARGE HAWK CROSSWALK THAT SHOULD THEORETICALLY CONNECT TO A NICE LARGE SIDEWALK. SO IF THERE WAS A WAY EVEN TO BUILD A GRAVEL PATHWAY OR SOMETHING THAT

WOULD DO A NICE JOB OF CONNECTING THE TOWN SQUARE TO THE BARLOW AND THEN PROVIDE SOME

LIGHTING AND JUST SOME OTHER IDEAS IN TERMS OF WAYS TO ACTIVATE A SPACE, ONE WOULD BE A DOG PARK BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF DOGS IN THE SPACE AND DO NOT HAVE A DOG RUN. I THINK PEOPLE WOULD ENJOY

THAT AND KEEP THE FENCING UP AND CLOSE IT AT NIGHT SO HOMELESS PEOPLE DON'T GET IN IT OR A

CHRISTMAS MARKET IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FARMERS MARKET FROM THANKSGIVING TO CHRISTMAS TIME

OR PERHAPS A POP-UP ICE SKATING RINK AND I ALSO JUST WANT TO REITERATE YOU DO NEED CAR PARKING FOR

HOTELS BECAUSE PEOPLE USE HOTELS WHEN THEY'RE TRAVELING AND AT THIS POINT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO TRAVEL TO SEBASTOPOL ARE USING A CAR. THEY MIGHT USE A BIKE JUST FOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY,

BUT THEY'RE NOT TRAVELING TO SEBASTOPOL WITH THEIR LUGGAGE AND BABY CAR SEATS AND WHATNOT BY BICYCLE. SO I THINK THE SPACE REALLY DOES NEED TO BE ACTIVATED. WE CAN'T HAVE A VACANT LOT WITH

WEEDS IN OUR DOWNTOWN, BUT I ALSO THINK THERE'S MANY IDEAS THAT COULD WORK AND I HOPE YOU'RE ABLE TO CONNECT THE BARLOW TO MAIN STREET USING SIDEWALK. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KATE. NEXT I WOULD COME BACK TO CHAMBERS IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS. SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

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OKAY, HI.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES, I CAN.

GREAT. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I MADE THIS COMMENT BEFORE AND IT DOESN'T REALLY GET MUCH ATTRACTION AND DOESN'T GET MUCH

ATTENTION, DOESN'T GET REALLY RESPONDED TO, BUT THE SHEER IDEA THAT WE'VE ALLOWED A DEVELOPER TO

DODGE OUR INCREASE IN DEVELOPMENT FEES BY JUST LETTING THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT

CARRY ON AND EXTEND YEAR AFTER YEAR WITH ZERO ACTUAL PROGRESS IN THE WAY OF DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY JUST BOGGLES MY MIND AND IT SETS UP A REALLY INTERESTING PRECEDENT. IN FACT, I WOULD JUST

GO AHEAD AND SUGGEST LIKE ANY BUSINESS THAT'S CONSIDERING DEVELOPING ANYTIME IN THE FUTURE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT INTEREST KNOWN, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF YOU MAKE THAT INTEREST KNOWN NOW,

MAYBE THEN YOU'RE LOCKING IN THOSE DEVELOPMENT FEES AS THEY ARE NOW BECAUSE I'M SURE WE'LL BE INCREASING THEM IN THE FUTURE. OUR CITY CAN'T FISCALLY BE RESPONSIBLE. SO IT'S GOING TO NEED MORE AND MORE REVENUE GENERATION AS MORE LITIGATION COMES IN, MORE FAILED ATTEMPTS. STATE YOUR INTENTION FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE AND LOCK IN THE PRICES NOW. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ACTUALLY MOTIVATE DEVELOPERS TO DEVELOP? WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MOTIVATE LAND OWNERS, SPECIFICALLY COMMERCIAL LAND OWNERS, TO ACTUALLY GET TENANTS? I'VE ARGUED FOR VACANCY TAXES IN

THE PAST AND THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW THIS IDEA SOMEHOW VACANCY TAXES ARE THE REVENUE GENERATION, NO. THE VACANCY TAXES ARE THE MOTIVATOR TO GET TENANTS SO THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE

SALES TAX REVENUE COMING FROM TENANTS AND BUSINESSES, BUT AGAIN, WE JUST GO AHEAD AND

CONTINUE TO JUST ROLL OVER AND ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO SIT ON THEIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR YEARS AND YEARS WITHOUT ANY PROGRESS, THEN WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST DO IT FOR EVERYBODY, RIGHT?

MAYBE THE ISSUE IS THAT WE NEED --
KYLE. THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WOULD COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS IF THERE'S ANYONE ON CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK ONE TIME TO ZOOM IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS INFORMATIONAL ITEM.

THANK YOU. SINCE IT'S INFORMATIONAL JUST RECEIVE AND FILE. AS INDICATED, FOR THOSE THAT WERE PRESENT AT THE START OF THE CALENDAR, OUR SUPERVISOR REQUESTED THAT ITEM NUMBER 10, THE INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION, NOT START AT THE ANTICIPATED TIME, WHICH IS USUALLY AT 6:45, AND WAS HOPING THAT IT WOULD NOT START UNTIL 7:15. SO THERE WAS AGREEMENT AMONGST MY COLLEAGUES TO ACTUALLY CONTINUE THAT ITEM UNTIL 7:15, AT WHICH POINT SHE SAID SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE PRESENT.

HAVING SAID THAT, ITEM NUMBER 10 AGAIN WILL NOT BE CALLED UNTIL 7:15. THAT MEANS WE CAN MOVE ON WITH OUR REGULAR CALENDAR AGENDA ITEMS FOR WHICH THE FIRST ONE IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11,

WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF CREATION OF A STANDING COMMITTEE FOR THE WATER/SEWER FUND OVERSIGHT. ITEM WAS CONTINUED FROM JULY 1st CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THE FISCAL IMPACT, THERE IS NO FISCAL IMPACT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. HOWEVER, STAFF TIME WILL BE REQUIRED TO STAFF THIS

COMMITTEE AND THE REQUESTER IS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND THE RESPONSIBLE DEPARTMENT IS PUBLIC WORKS/ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. SO I'M GOING TO TURN TO OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO SEE WHAT SHE WOULD PREFER TO HEAR.

I'M GOING TO HAVE COUNCILMEMBER CARTER PRESENT THE ITEM.

THERE YOU GO, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

I DIDN'T PREPARE A SPEECH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING INTO A PLACE WHERE WE

NEED MORE TRANSPARENCY AND WE THEY'D TO GET BETTER BUDGETARY CONTROL OVER OUR ENTERPRISE

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ITEM COMES FROM AND IT SEPARATES ITSELF FROM JUST LIKE A MEASURE U OR MEASURE J JUST LIKE A MINOR

OVERSIGHT INTO SOME INTEGRAL PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE AND DOMAIN EXPERTISE CAN COME IN AND HELP ADVISE THE CITY CREATE LIKE A BETTER PLAN AND OPERATE MORE EFFICIENTLY. DOES THAT SUFFICE?
YES. YOU MAY WANT TO INCLUDE ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES PER YEAR THAT YOU HAD THOUGHT THIS

COMMITTEE WOULD BE, WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE ONE OR TWO TIMES A YEAR, AND THEN THE

MAKEUP OF THE COMMITTEE, WHICH IS IN THE RESOLUTION THAT I COULD READ OFF IF YOU WOULD LIKE JUST SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS ABOUT.

WOULD YOU DO THAT, PLEASE.

I WOULD. SO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THIS COMMITTEE IS TO CREATE ADDITIONAL TRANSPARENCY WHICH IS ONE OF THE CITY'S GOALS, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, AND REESTABLISHING TRUST. THE CITY HAS HEARD THE LAST

FEW YEARS THIS TRUST OF OUR BUDGET AND THE INFORMATION THEY'RE GETTING OUT THERE IN

COORDINATION WITH COUNCILMEMBER CARTER WE DISCUSSED THIS WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO INCLUDE TRANSPARENCY, GETTING EXPERTS IN THE COMMUNITY ONTO THESE COMMITTEES. THE COMPOSITION WOULD BE A SIMILAR PROCESS IF YOU'RE APPLYING FOR ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONS OR COMMITTEES. WE WOULD HAVE YOU FILL OUT AN APPLICATION. IT WOULD COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL. WE'D DO A SHORT INTERVIEW.

THE COUNCIL COULD APPOINT AT THAT TIME. SO THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY MADE UP IS OF FIVE MEMBERS, ONE IS A CITY COUNCILMEMBER. ONE IS A PERSON WHO OWNS OR IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A BUSINESS IN THE CITY.

AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE WHO ARE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN CITY GOVERNMENT WHICH IS

COMING TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, EMAILING TO US AND THEN ONE WHO HAS EXPERIENCE IN ACCOUNTING, AUDITING, OR EDITOR OR FINANCIAL FIELD. AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A STANDING COMMITTEE. THEY WOULD, AGENDAIZED, OPEN MEETINGS. THAT WOULD BE THE COMMITTEE MAKEUP.

THANK YOU, MARY. ANYTHING ELSE TO PRESENT, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM COLLEAGUES?

JUST AS A PREEMPTIVE STATEMENT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS ISN'T MEANT TO TAKE

UP FUNDS OR TAKE UP TIME OR REDUCE STAFF TIME AND ITS EFFECT ON THIS IS ACTUALLY TO INCREASE EFFECTIVENESS AND INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY OF OUR PLANNING. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH ITS WEIGHT IN GOLD AND SAVE US QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? COUNCILMEMBER MAURER.

THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. CAN YOU DEFINE STANDING COMMITTEE? I THINK I MISTAKENLY THOUGHT THAT REQUIRED TWO COUNCILMEMBERS.

SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT KINDS OF STANDING COMMITTEES. ANY COMMITTEE THAT'S APPOINTED BY THE CITY

COUNCIL HAS TO COMPLY WITH THE BROWN ACT UNLESS IT IS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR A LIMITED SCOPE

AND DURATION, BUT EVEN IF IT'S A COMMITTEE MADE UP OF CITIZENS WITH NO COUNCILMEMBER ON IT, IF IT'S

APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, CREATED AND APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, IT'S SUBJECT TO THE BROWN ACT.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

SO THE LAST COMMENT COUNCILMEMBER CARTER JUST SAID WAS IT'S NOT MEANT TO COST US MONEY, BUT IT WILL. SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT OUR FINANCIAL IMPACT IS TO HOLD THESE MEETINGS AND THEN DO THEY --

WOULD THEY PRODUCE A DOCUMENT LIKE THIS ANNUALLY OR HOW WOULD THEY COMMUNICATE BACK TO THE COUNCIL? WE'VE NEVER HAD A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS. [ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ] SO THE COST WOULD BE THE STAFF TIME TO HELP WITH THE AGENDA, DO THE REPORT. WE DON'T -- IT'S NOT

GOING TO BE A -- UNLESS THE COUNSEL DIRECTS IT WASN'T ANTICIPATED TO BE A VIDEOTAPED MEETING SO IT WASN'T ANTICIPATED TO HAVE IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT WAS MORE LIKELY UP IN CITY HALL. WE CAN DISCUSS IF WE NEEDED TO DO THAT AND BRING THE MEETING BACK IF WE ARE GOING TO VIDEOTAPE IT. I DON'T KNOW THIS IS A BRAND NEW COMMITTEE. I I'M NOT SURE WHAT REPORT IT WOULD BE. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE REPORT. I THINK IT WOULD BE A REPORT THAT STAFF WOULD BE HELPING THE Page | 26
COMMITTEE WORK WITHIN PUT FROM THEM AND JUST CREATING REPORT OUT BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IT WOULD BE ALSO PROVIDED TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THEY GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS.

YES.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY WOULD DO. IF THEY AREN'T CREATING A REPORT.

THERE SEEMS TO BE A QUESTION.

WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

THE ZOOM IS BEING RECORDED, CORRECT? AS A BACK UP? SAM.

I'M SORRY. IT HAS NOT BEEN. SO LET ME START THAT.

THAT'S A PROBLEM.

I CAN REPEAT THE QUESTION ONCE HE STARTS RECORDING.

BUT CODY.

WE CAN CONTINUE. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE JUST -- LOST THAT WITH IN THE LAST 30 SECONDS. SO THE REST --.

RELYING ON YOU, ALEX.

OKAY. I THINK MY QUESTION WAS -- CAN'T REALLY REMEMBER. SO, RIGHT. I'M CONFUSED ABOUT IF THEY ARE GOING TO CREATE A REPORT AND YOU ARE SAYING -- I WANT TO CLARIFY. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A YEARLY REPORT. YEARLY REPORT. ONE COUNCILMEMBER. NOT RECORDED. AS OF RIGHT NOW THAT IS CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. CONTINUE QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT. NO? I DON'T ASSUME YOU WOULD. I HAVE NONE EITHER.

MARY PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE DISCUSSION OF THE CREATION OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT I COME TO CHAMBERS FIRST.

SEEING NONE I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. KATE , YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF.

I DO NOT SUPPORT AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. WE NEED A COMPLETELY SEPARATE DISTRICT THAT HAS TOTAL CONTROL OVER REVENUE EXPENSES, EMPLOYEES, PRIORITIES, TRANSPARENCY AND CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS.

COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF DO NOT HAVE THE TIME OR THE ABILITY TO EFFECTIVELY MANAGE THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND THE NECESSARY CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS. IN ADDITION YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MEETING THAT

COUNCIL DOESN'T EVEN WANT TO SPEND MONEY TO SUPPORT AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE EVEN THOUGH WATER AND SEWAR RATE PAYERS GENERATE MORE REVENUE THAN ANY OTHER SOURCE FOR THE CITY. THE CITY

HAS NOT EVEN KEPT RECORDS REGARDING CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS EVEN THOUGH ALL RATE HIKES WERE BASED ON THE NEED FOR REVENUE FOR CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS. THE 2019 RATE STUDY INCLUDED A CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WHICH INDICATED OVER $3 MILLION NEEDED IN CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS. FROM A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST DOCUMENTS SHOW THAT ONLY TWO PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED SINCE 2019 WHICH TOTAL CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS. IT IS CLEAR THAT THE CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WERE NOT DONE DESPITE A RATE INCREASE. THIS IS ALL IN MY PUBLIC COMMENT. SPEAKING OF ENTERPRISE

OVERSIGHT IS COUNCIL AND THE ATTORNEY AWARE THAT THE BILLING TIERS WERE CHANGED FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE WHICH SEEMS TO BE IN VIOLATION OF PROPOSITION 218? THE TIERS WERE CUT IN HALF BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE BEING BILLED FOR A HALF MONTH. IT DOESN'T GIVE THE PRICING THAT IS STATED IN THE RATE SHEET BASED ON THE FIRST SEVEN KEGELS WHICH ARE TO BE BILLED AT ONE PRICE. THE RATES CLEARLY STATED IN THE RATE SHEET. WAS COUNCIL AND THE ATTORNEY AWARE OF THIS CHANGE AND, IF SO, WHEN WAS IT DISCUSSED? IF THE CUSTOMER STOPS WATER SERVICE ON JUNE 30th, 2025 AND ONLY USED SIX THEY SHOULD BE CHARGED FOR SIX AT $5.01.

THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. SEEING NONE I WILL -- SORRY.

MY NAME IS GREGORY. I'M HERE FOR A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ITEM BUT I REALIZED THAT I PROBABLY AM THE ONLY ONE THAT'S ON AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. I'M ON THE MEASURE O COMMITTEE. I'M ON THAT BOARD Page | 27

THAT CREATES THAT AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I FOUND IT VERY VALUABLE TO HAVE SIX OF MY

COLLEAGUES LOOKING AT IT QUARTERLY, GETTING THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT LETS US DETERMINE THE

KINDS OF INFORMATION AND JUDGMENTS THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT OF SOMEONE LOOKING OVER YOUR MONEY AND YOUR ACTIVITIES. I SUPPORT THIS. I THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH I THINK YOUR PERCEPTION THAT

THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO HAVE SOMEONE THEY CAN TRUST LOOKING OVER THE FINANCING OF YOUR PROJECTS.

THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. CAN YOU UNMUTE YOUR, KYLE? I CAN.

CAN YOU STILL SEE THE TIMER?
YES. I CAN.

GREAT. GO HEAD.

SINCE YOUR COUNCIL HAS KIND OF DEVELOPED THIS PATTERN OF CHOOSING REALLY NOT TO SPEAK AT ALL OR

GIVE ANY SORT OF INDICATION ABOUT THEIR THOUGHTS ON AGENDA ITEMS BEFORE MOVING TO PUBLIC

COMMENT I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC AND SAY GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR BUDGETS AND SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF ALLOCATION OF THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS TO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.

GO BACK, AT LEAST START BY GOING BACK TWO YEARS AND THEN START BY GOING BACK BEYOND THAT. YOU

WILL FIND INTERESTING ACCOUNTING AND THAT INTERESTING ACCOUNTING FOR MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF

MONEY BEING SENT TO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS UNDER THE GUISE OF IT BEING IN SUPPORT OF THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS THEMSELVES TURNED OUT TO NOT BE LEGIT. WE FOUND THAT OUT THROUGH PUSHING AND ASKING

THIS QUESTION MULTIPLE TIMES TO COUNCIL UNTIL IT FINALLY GOT TO THE POINT WHERE EVEN -- EVEN LARRY

WAS LIKE, PUSHED IT OUT FOR AN EXTRA THREE OR FOUR MONTHS TO EVEN LOOK AT IT BEFORE THEY FINALLY

LOOKED AT IT AND DEEMED THOSE FORMULAS WERE NOT APPROPRIATE AND WERE BASED ON AN EMPLOYEE SURVEY FROM 20 YEARS AGO SO AN EMPLOYEE SURVEY DICTATED THE AMOUNT OF THE BUDGET BEING SENT TO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS. TO A TUNE OF ONE YEAR ESTIMATE OF AROUND $750,000 IN EXCESS BEING SET ASIDE ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS ABOVE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY BEING USED FOR. SO, THERE IS DEFINITE NEED FOR THIS. IF WE CAN GET ENOUGH SUPPORT AND ENOUGH VOICE THEN MAYBE THIS COUNCIL WILL BE MORE

TRANSPARENT ABOUT THOSE DECISIONS IN THE PAST AND ABOUT BEING CRITICAL ABOUT THE WAY WE MAKE THOSE ACCOUNTING IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T SEE IT BECAUSE IT'S EASY FOR A COUNCIL TO STAY QUIET INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY SPEAKING UP FOR THE CHANGE THAT'S NEEDED TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS AND THE RATE PAYERS.

THANK YOU, KYLE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PUBLIC ITEM. SEEING NONE I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. ROBERT YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF PLEASE? CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER? I CAN.

GREAT. GO HEAD PLEASE.

YEAH. THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR AS WELL FOR SOME TIME. I'M NOT SURE HOW EXTREME -- WHAT EXTREME LEVEL YOU GO TO FINALLY MAKE THIS WORK. I DON'T THINK WHAT KATE IS SUGGESTING IS IRRATIONAL. IT'S A BIG STEP THOUGH. IN THE INTERIM I THINK THAT THE IDEA OF HAVING A MORE COMMUNITY INPUT INTO THIS PROCESS. A LITTLE MORE INDEPENDENCE IS VALUABLE. COUNCILMEMBER HUNDRED TON SAID THAT THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THIS. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S TRUE. THE DRB IS A -- HAS COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT SITS ON IT AND PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION AT DIFFERENT TIMES. THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CLIMATE ACTION COMMITTEE. AT LEAST THIS IS A FOCUS ON SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP TO IMPROVE SERVICES DIRECTLY TO THE CITY AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I DON'T KNOW WHY AND YOU ARE ALL CITY COUNCIL SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER FEELING. FOR THREE YEARS I HAVE WATCHED THE COUNCIL GET TO THE WATER AND SEWAR BUDGET AND BASICALLY SHUT UP. YEAH, THAT LOOKS GOOD. MOVE ON. THERE'S NEVER ANY CRITICAL THINKING. THERE'S NEVER ANY -- IT'S LIKE YOU ARE JUST EXHAUSTED YOU CAN'T TAKE ANY MORE. FOR 20 YEARS AS KYLE SAID THE CITY HAS BEEN TAKING RATE PAYER MONEY AND USING IT FOR GENERAL PURPOSES WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW ACCORDING TO PROPOSITION 218. EVEN THE MOST

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STILL WAY OVER ALLOCATED. ALMOST 50% OF THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET IS BEING PAID FOR BY WATER AND SEWAR. THERE'S OTHER DEPARTMENT THAT ARE EVEN WORSE. INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE'S BEEN NO REAL FROM CONSTRUCT WORK DONE ON WATER AND SEWAR FROM A LONG TIME BUT EVERY RATE INCREASE SINCE 2014 WAS JUSTIFIED TO PAY FOR MUCH NEEDED NEEDED NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBER THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. SEEING ONE I WILL GO BACK OUT TO

ZOOM F THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT TO RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

THIS HAS BEEN A TOPIC OF LONG DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE ALOCATION RATE. I WILL TURN TO YOU, MAYOR. WE

ARE BRINGING THAT BACK, STAFF IS DOING RESEARCH AND WE ARE BRINGING IT BACK AT MEDIAER TO MIDYEAR

TO TALK ABOUT WHY ATTORNEY FEES ARE BEING ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR RATES, WHY ARE OUR TIME -- CITY COUNCIL TIME BEING ALLOCATED TO WATER AND SEWAR. AM I REMEMBERING THAT WRONG? THAT IS CORRECT. CITY STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE CONSULTANT ON THAT AND WE WILL PROBABLY BRING BACK DIFFERENT STRUCTURES FOR THAT FOR HOW COSTS SET ASIDE. WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH A CONSULTANT AND BEBRINGING BACK PROBABLY A DIFFERENT ALLOCATION AT MIDYEAR. U WE HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN THE ISSUE. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THAT RESEARCH WOULD BE DONE AND WE ARE COMING BACK AT MIDYYEAR. I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

THANK YOU. I WANTED TO RESPOND TO TWO COMMENTS. ONE SAY THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T COMMENT BEFORE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. I BELIEVE IT'S THE BROWN ACT THAT RESTRICTS US FROM COMMENTING BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE COME OUT WITH OUR OWN COMMENTS. THAT'S CORRECT, RIGHT?
IN OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE THAT WE FOLLOW.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHY BEFORE WE HEAR FROM YOU WE ARE ASKING ONLY QUESTIONS TO GET MORE INFORMATION.

SO, AND THE SECOND THING IS THAT ONE OF THE COMMENTERS SAID THAT WE NEVER DID ANY CRITICAL

THINKING REGARDING THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND I JUST WANT FOR THE RECORD TO CLARIFY THAT WE HAD AT LEAST THREE, MAYBE FOUR MEETINGS BEFORE WE VOTED ON THAT. THAT WAS LAST YEAR. SO, YEAH. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS AND/OR MOTION? COUNCILMEMBER ANTHONY.

I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS A LITTLE EARLY WHEN WE WERE WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO -- STAFF TO COME BACK AND GIVE US SOME MORE INFORMATION. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM ABOUT FOUR REGULAR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS ISSUE BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE CITIZENS OF 7200 IN THE CITY AND I -- I'M JUST NOT SURE THIS SOLVES WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE. I WOULD SUGGEST A BOOK LIKE THIS WITH ALL OUR INFORMATION SO THAT THERE IS NOT -- I GUESS MISUNDERSTANDING. TONIGHT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC THINGS THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND

WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED HIRE CONSULTANTS TO GIVE US THE AMOUNT THAT SHOULD BE THE CORRECT ALLOCATIONS. WE HAVE FOLLOWED THOSE. NOW WE ARE GOING TO REVISIT IT WITH IN MIDYEAR, SOUNDS LIKE. SO, FOR ME THIS IS A LITTLE PREMATURE TO CREATE ANOTHER SUBCOMMITTEE WHEN IN OUR HISTORY WE

HAVE REDUCED OUR COMMISSIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FILL OUT THE CLIMATE ACTION

COMMITTEE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FILL OUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND NOW WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE ANOTHER CITIZEN COMMITTEE WHEN WE HAVE HAD LACK OF PARTICIPATION OVERALL IN THE CITY. SO, I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT. I JUST SAY TO THE PEOPLE THAT WANT THIS ARE YOU GOING TO VOLUNTEER?

BECAUSE WE SIT UP HERE AND WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND I LIKE MORE OF THIS COMMUNITY TO VOLUNTEER

AND TO RUN FOR OFFICE AND TO SIT ON THESE COMMITTEES AND I'M NOT SO INCLINED TO CREATE ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAT WE ARE GOING TO STRUGGLE TO GET CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN. SO I WILL PROBABLY BE

VOTING NO TONIGHT ON THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S PREMATURE AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR MORE PARTICIPATION.

THANK YOU.

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THAT'S WHERE I SIT.

THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS AND/OR MOTION? I THINK I SAW COUNCILMEMBER --.

ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WHO WAS RECENTLY HIRED AND HE IS RETIRING. THIS IS ONE OF THE WOULD BE A KEY PERSON ON THIS COMMITTEE. SO IN TERMS OF TIMING. I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF HAVING AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE BUT IN TERMS OF TIMES I DON'T KNOW IF

THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME OR IF WE COULD JUST DELAY IT UNTIL WE HAVE A CERTAIN, YOU KNOW A CERTAIN PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR RETAINED. I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG THAT WOULD TAKE. IT COULD TAKE A COUPLE MONTHS. BASED ON AN EMAIL WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS AND HIS POINT OF VIEW IS

THAT WE SHOULDN'T LIMIT THE SCOPE OF AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND I THINK THAT ALTHOUGH IT MAKES

IT, YOU KNOW, MORE WORK IT ALSO I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THE OVER SIGHT IS NOT ONLY NEEDED

FOR RATES AND IT'S NEEDED FOR THE COST ALLOC TAX TION PLAN, FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND WATER QUALITY REVIEW WERE A COUPLE OF THE THINGS HE SUGGESTED THEY LOOK AT. I'M NOT SURE IF ONE OR TWO MEETINGS A YEAR COULD -- IS ENOUGH. IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO MEET QUARTERLY. SO, I HAVEN'T DECIDED.

THESE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS. I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT IT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I DON'T THINK

CREATING A NEW -- WHOLE NEW WATER BOARD IS NECESSARILY A GOOD IDEA BUT I DO THINK THE COST PLAN DOES NEED TO BE REVIEWED CAREFULLY. WE ACTUALLY DID THAT DURING THE BUDGET BUT I THINK IT NEEDS MORE SCRUTINY. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTLESS.

AND MY THOUGHTS YES I'M APPRECIATIVE TO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER FOR BRINGING FORWARD. WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF THE COMMENTS. AT LEAST I HAVE ABOUT THE NEED FOR THIS. SO, AS ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC STATED THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP. MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST ONE BUT AT LEAST IT'S A STEP FORWARD. I DO SUPPORT THIS. I WOULD BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS. SO, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR MOTION ON THIS? LOOKING TO MY RIGHT, NOT SEEING ANY, YES, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

JUST TO ADDRESS THE NOWNESS OF THIS. I DON'T THINK ANY TIME IS TOYSHOP. WE NEED TO GO HEAD AND GET GOING. THE ALLOCATION HAS MORE TO DO WITH THE BUDGET THAN THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE. WHEN WE GET TO THE ENTERPRISE FUND I THINK QUARTERLY IS A GOOD START. I FEEL LIKE WE CAN AMEND THIS TO GO

FURTHER BUT WE NEED TO GO HEAD AND GET STARTED ON IT BECAUSE ONE THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS

THAT IN THE CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ANYTHING UNDER THE ENTERPRISE FUND SHOULD BE BUNDLED UNDER THAT AND WE SHOULD TRACK IT. WHEN WE ARE DOING OUR BUDGET, KEEPING THINGS IN THE

ENTERPRISE FUND IS KIND OF IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE IT'S LIKE YOUR DASHBOARD OF YOUR CAR BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT FUNCTION IS DOING WHAT. YOU KNOW HOW TO MAKE CHANGES AND YOU KNOW WHAT CERTAIN -- IT'S JUST GOOD INFORMATION TO HELP RUN A CITY BETTER. YOU KNOW ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THE CITY RUN BETTER WE SHOULD. THAT'S THE FINAL, YOU KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ADJUSTING - -
COUNCILMEMBER.

YES. SO WHO WAS THE COUNCILMEMBER THAT'S VOLUNTEERING FOR THIS? WHAT?

THAT -- SO IF THIS IS APPROVED TONIGHT IT'LL COME BACK MORE THAT DISCUSSION, APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AFTER THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS.

I WOULD STILL LIKE TO KNOW IF ANYONE HERE IS PLANNING TO VOLUNTEER? ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT IS THERE A MOTION?
MAY I MOVE IT?
SURE AND I WILL SECOND IT.

COULD I JUST ASK FOR ONE CLARIFICATION. IN THE RESOLUTION WE DO TALK ABOUT EITHER TWO YEAR OR FOUR YEAR TERM. CAN YOU CLARIFY WHICH TERM YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT IN THERE? TWO.

OKAY
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AND THEN WE CAN AMEND THIS LIKE IN TWO YEARS RIGHT?
YOU CAN AMEND IT ANY TIME.

THAT AMENDMENT IS ALL RIGHT.

SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER BY THE MAYOR WITH THE AMENDMENT TO THE TWO YEAR TERM IS TO APPROVE THE CREATION OF THE STANDING COMMITTEE FOR A WATER OVERSIGHT. COUNCILMEMBERS CARTER.

YES.

HINTON.

NO.

MAYOR.

YES.

MOTION PASSES 3-1-1. HINTON IS OPPOSITION AND VICE MAYOR LEWIS ABSENT.

YES. THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST FOR A -- I DO SEE THE SUPERVISOR HERE SO WHEN WE COME BACK, ONLY FIVE MINUTES WE WILL START WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.

ALL RIGHT EVERYBODY. THAT WAS A VERY QUICK AS PROMISED FIVE MINUTES SO PLEASE START FINDING YOUR SEATS AGAIN AS WE WILL BE RESUMING IN TWO MINUTES. CODY, ARE WE FINE WITH TECH? OKAY. MARY, ARE WE GOOD ON YOUR END? MARY, ARE WE GOOD ON YOUR END? WE WILL BE RESUMING IN ONE MINUTE SO, FOLKS IN THE CHAMBERS, FOLKS, THIS IS WHEN WE NEED THE GAVEL. SORRY. I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHEN WE ARE LIKE FIVE MINUTE REQUEST. ALL RIGHT. SORRY. UNDERSTOOD. UNDERSTOOD. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE RESUMING AND IT IS 7:25 THERE WILL BE IN THE CHAMBERS. THANK AS INDICATED WE DID WAIT FOR THE

SUPERVISOR TO BE PRESENT AND SHE IS PRESENT IN THE CHAMBER SO WE ARE NOW CALLING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 WHICH IS STATE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES. NOLAN SO MONDAY SOLOMON. I'M

THE PRIMARY LIOSON AND THE VICE MAYOR IS THE ALTERNATE RESPONSIBLE DEPARTMENT IS THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER. THE FISCAL IMPACT THERE IS NONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE RECEIVING OF THIS ITEM. I WILL SAY BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER I WANT TO APPRECIATE MR. SULLIVAN FOR BEING HERE ALONG WITH HIS STAFF. THIS IS NOT JUST A PART OF ONE OF OUR GOALS AS A CITY COUNCIL. I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. IT IS ALSO THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR TO EVERYBODY HERE IN ATTENDANCE. WE ALL ELECTED, VOTED TO FIND OUT WHAT

OUR COUNCIL PRIORITY THAT ASSOCIATION'S PRIORITIES WOULD BE AND WE ARE NOW WAITING FOR THE

BOARD OF SUPERVISOR TO DECIDE WHICH OF THE TWO OF HER COLLEAGUES WILL BE SITTING ON THE AD HOC WITH THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF THE ASSOCIATION. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THIS IS NOT ABOUT LIKE --LY SAY FOR MYSELF ABOUT US. THIS IS THE ENTIRE ELECTED INTEREST ELECTED SAYING THIS ISSUE FOR WHICH YOU ARE PRESENTING OF THE TOP MOST PRIORITY FOR THEM. I WANT TO STATE THAT AND MAKE IT VERY CLEAR. SO HAVING SAID THAT I AM TURNING IT OVER TO OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU. THE ITEM TONIGHT IS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM FROM NOLAN SULLIVAN. I THINK I HAD YOUR TITLE INCREAK. HE WILL PROVIDE A PRESENTATION ON THE STATE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES.

NOLAN WAS APPOINTED TO THE DIRECTOR IN APRIL OF 2025 AND HE OVERSEES THE COUNTY'S HOMELESS OPERATIONS AND STAFF WHO LEAD THE LEAD AGENCY IN THE SNOHOMISH COUNTY BOARD. THIS ITEM WAS

BROUGHT FORWARD FROM THE MAYOR AND ALSO THE VICE MAYOR WHO AS YOU STATED IS ALTERNATE DUE

TO THE EXPERIENCES AT THE CITY'S HAVING WITH ELDERBERRY COMMONS AND THEN CONCERN ABOUT WITH THE FUNDING ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR SAINT VINCENT'S ST. PAULS. WE HAD ASKED NOLAN IF HE

WOULD COME AND GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THAT IN ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

I THINK I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO KICK IT A I WANTED TO START OFF BY SAYING NEW SO MUCH MAYOR FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF REORDERING THE AGENDA IN ORDER THAT I COULD ATTEND. I REALLY HOPE THIS IS THE

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HOMELESSNESS IS A PROBLEM THAT AFFECTS EVERYBODY THROUGHOUT SONOMA AND THEY DON'T STAY IN

ONE PLACE BUT THEY KIND OF CROSS IN BETWEEN JURISDICTIONS, SOMETIMES ON A SEASONAL BASIS,

SOMETIMES BASED ON RESPONSES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS LIKE A PERSON WHO JUST STAYS IN ONE PLACE AND ONLY HAS, YOU KNOW AN IMPACT IN ONE PARTICULAR AREA. THAT MAKES IT

MORE IMPORTANT TO COORDINATE AND COLLABORATE ACROSS JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES THE COUNTY IS, YOU KNOW THE LEAD AGENCY FOR UNINCORPORATED AREA THAT HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO TURN TO. ITS BEEN

TRADITIONAL THAT'S CITIES HAVE TAKEN THE LEAD WITH INSIDE THEIR JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES AND YET

BECAUSE OF THE PASSAGE OF MEASURE O AND BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T SOLVE THIS PROBLEM IN

ISOLATION THE COUNTY IS WILLING EGGER TO PARTNER OUR CITY PARTNERS TO ADDRESS CHALLENGES AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WILL HEAR FROM ALL OF US TODAY. I ALSO WANTED TO START ON A PERSONAL NOTE. I LIVE HERE. NOT IN THE CITY IN TERMS OF THE JURISDICTIONALBOUNDARIES. UNINCORPORATED BUT I COULD HIT THIS SORT OF CITY LINE WITH THE STONE FROM MY HOUSE. THIS IS MY TOWN TOO AND I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT IT. I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE HAVE COLLECTIVELY

MADE SOME GOOD PROGRESS AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS GOOD PROGRESS AND I'M ESPECIALLY EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT MOBILE SUPPORT TEAM WHICH I KNOW IS PART OF THE PRESENTATION TODAY. IT IS GOOD THOUGH I WILL SAY TO NOT BE IN A PLACE OF CRISIS. I HAVE BEEN THROUGH MANY HOMELESSNESS CRISIS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE 5th DISTRICT SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE AND I REMEMBER WHAT JOE WAS A GIANT CAMP WITH OVER 150, WHEN CAMP MCKAYLA BEHIND THE ROSE LAND DOLLAR STORE BECAME A HUGE THING. I REMEMBER THE SHERIFF'S HELICOPTER FLYING OVER THE TRAIL AND RECORDING RATS LIVING IN

THE CAMP AT NIGHT BECAUSE THEY HAD THE SORT OF THERMAL SCANNERS AND YOU COULD SEE THE RATS AND THAT WAS A PUBLISHED VIDEO. WE HAVE BEEN IN VERY DARK PLACES. CERTAINLY SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE

AND BEFORE THAT AND I THINK THAT WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE A PROBLEM THAT I THINK WE CAN WRAP OUR ARMS AROUND AT THIS POINT IN TIME. AS WE WILL DISCUSS LATER THE LAST POINT IN TIME COUNT REPORTED 16 FOLKS. I THINK YOU CAN GO THROUGH EVERY DAY AND NOT EVEN NOTICE UNSHELTERED PEOPLE. I KNOW

THEY ARE THERE BUT IT'S NOT NEARLY AS VISIBLE AND AS PRESENT AS IF YOU DRIVE AROUND ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE BAY AREA. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WHILE THERE'S STILL WORK TO BE DONE THINGS HAVE

CERTAINLY IMPROVED AND THAT WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING MORE PROGRESS IN COORDINATION WITH YOU. I ALSO WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THE FOLKS TO MY LEFT. ONE OF THEM I HAVE ONLY GOTTEN TO WORK WITH FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS BUT HE IS KNOCKING OUT OF THE PARK AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN THIS JOB? FEELS LIKE TEN YEARS. FOUR MONTHS. THERE YOU GO. HE IS FANTASTIC. HE IS DIVING IN ON HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THOSE INTERSECTIONAL ISSUES? HOW CAN WE COLLABORATE BETTER WITH CITY PARTNERS AND ALSO PREPARE OURSELVES FOR FUNDING CUTS. WE

HAVE BEEN THROUGH MANY -- THROUGH A LOT OF STUFF TOGETHER AND HE IS THE KIND OF PERSON WHO

THINKS ABOUT SOLUTIONS, AND TRIES TO FIX WHAT IS BROKEN TO MAKE THINGS WORK BUT WILL ALSO

ACTUALLY BE OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CRISIS TALKING TO UNSHELTERED PEOPLE AND FINDING OUT WHAT THEY NEED HIS HEART IS IN THE WORK AND IS HE BRILLIANT AND EXCITED TO HAVE. WE BROUGHT OUR A TEAM. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE GUY TO MY LEFT SO I WILL HAND IT OVER TO THEM AND THANK YOU FOR TAKE AWAY YOUR EVENINGS TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

WILL THE SLIDES PRESENT, THERE WE ARE. GREAT. DO I JUST TELL YOU NEXT SLIDE? LET'S GO HEAD AND GO IN THE NEXT SLIDE. AGAIN MY NAME IS NOLAN SULLIVAN. I'M THE NEW HEALTH, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES DIRECTOR HERE IN SONOMA. I COME FROM 17 YEARS IN YOLO COUNTY. THE LAST FIVE AS THE DIRECTOR OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES THERE. I SPENT MOST OF MY ADULT LIFE IN THE CITY OF VACAVILLE AND WAS A CITY COUNCILMEMBER AND TRUSTEE. I KNOW BOTH SIDES OF THE DIAS. I HAVE TO

ASSURE YOU, MAYOR, THAT UNFORTUNATELY PROBABLY THE TOP THREE ITEMS OR TOP ITEM ON EVERY CITY

COUNCILMEMBER'S CHECKLIST FROM EVERY CITY IN CALIFORNIA IS MOST LIKELY MENTAL HEALTH AND HOMELESSNESS AND I ASSURE YOU THAT SUPERVISORS WAY UP ON THE LIST AS WELL. I THINK UNFORTUNATELY

SONOMA IS NOT IMMUNE TO THE PROBLEMS FACING THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY AND FRANKLY IT'S JUST -- IT'S THE CHALLENGE OF OUR TIME. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND Page | 32
WE TAKE THIS SERIOUS AND APPRECIATE THE INVITATION TODAY. THE SECOND THINNED JUST TO REALLY SET THE TONE IS THAT HOMELESSNESS IS NOT THE CITY'S PROBLEM. IT'S NOT THE COUNTY'S PROBLEM. IT'S ALSO NOT THE STATE GOVERNMENT'S PROBLEM. IT IS NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S PROBLEM. IT'S ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS. IF WE DON'T WORK TOGETHER WE WILL NEVER SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. IF YOU THINK ABOUT THINGS LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? THERE'S JURISDICTIONAL ISSUES WHERE THE SHERIFF CAN RESPOND. WHERE POLICE OFFICERS CAN RESPOND. WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING THE LAWS OR THOSE ARRESTS AND THOSE ZONES? THAT DOESN'T EXIST IN HOMELESS SERVICES. IF YOU THINK ABOUT EMERGENCY SERVICES, IF THAT'S FIRE OR AMBULANCE, AMBULANCE SERVICES ARE GUIDED BY WHAT'S CALLED THE LIMSA. THAT EXPLAINS WHERE THEY SHOULD GO. WHO RESPONDS TO WHAT EMERGENCY. WHO GOES TO WHAT HAPPEN. THAT DOESN'T EXIST FOR HOMELESS SERVICES. FIRE SERVICE, RIGHT? DEPENDING ON YOUR FIRE SERVICE. WHERE THEY GO, HOW THEY RESPOND. THAT DOESN'T EXIST TODAY. IT IS A HODGE PODGE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE

COLLABORATION AND GOODWILL AND PARTNERSHIPS WILL FAIL AND YOU WILL STRUGGLE AND SO THE FIRST THING IN THE SUPERVISOR OR THE CHAIR KNOCKED OUT OF THE PARK. WITH REHERE TO LISTEN, TO PARTNER AND COLLABORATE AND AGAIN I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR FOUR MONTHS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED FOUR YEARS AGO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR AT THIS POINT. I'M SEARCH TO BE OPEN COLLABORATIVE AND INFORMING. WE WILL TALK ABOUT SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS TONIGHT. FIRST AND FOREMOST IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES, HOMELESS SERVICES DIVISION. WE

WILL TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING SOURCES WITH I ARE COMPLICATED AND NOT ENOUGH TO SATISFY THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE TO FACE. WE WILL TALK ABOUT SOME REALLY COMPLEX TOPICS LIKE CARE, WE WILL

TALK ABOUT HOUSING FIRST, SOME REALLY COMPLEX TERMS THAT YOU WILL HEAR IN HOUSING OR HOMELESS SERVICES THAT NEED TO BE UNPACKED IN A PUBLIC SETTING AS WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS. WE WILL HAVE PROBABLY LOTS OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. I HAVE ANSWERED I THINK 30 OR 40 QUESTIONS ON A WRITTEN FAQ THAT'S BEEN POSTED TO THE CITY WEBSITE. I ASSUME THERE WILL BE COPIES DISTRIBUTED ELSEWHERE AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS AS WELL. WE WILL TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND I HOPE THERE'S MANY. I HOPE WE COME BACK WITH THE STAFF AND THE SUPERVISOR TO MEET WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES AND SHELTER OPERATORS. I SAW OUR PARTNERS FROM WCCS TONIGHT. OUR PARTNERS LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE POLICE CHIEF. I'M EXCITED TO DIG IN AND COLLABORATE AND FIGURE OUT HOW IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT CARE. WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB HERE. THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS INTENDED TO BE HIGH LEVEL. WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO FAR IN TO THE WEEDS. IF YOU WANT TO I WILL TAP MICHAEL IN. IS HE MY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT. IF I GET STUCK MICHAEL KNOWS ALL OF THE DETAILS BUT AGAIN IT'S

INTENDED TO BE HIGH LEVEL TO INFORM FUTURE DISCUSSIONS AMONG THE COUNCIL, AMONG THE CITIZENS AND WHOEVER ELSE WANTS TO JOIN IN. I KNOW THERE'S SOME HISTORY AND BAD BLOOD AND FRUSTRATION. I KNOW IT'S EASY TO SAY IT LOOKS DIFFERENT TODAY THAN TEN YEARS AGO. IF IF IT'S YOUR BUSINESS OR HOME

WHERE YOU ARE DEALING WITH INDIVIDUALS MAKING YOUR LIFE MISERABLE I UNDERSTAND IT'S A MASSIVE CHALLENGE. HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE PAST THAT AND TALK ABOUT HOW TO BRING SOLUTIONS TO THE CITY.

THEN LASTLY THE GOAL HERE IS TO BUILD FUTURE COLLABORATIONS AND PARTNERSHIPS. I HOPE WE WALK AWAY WITH THAT TONIGHT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I CAN'T SEE IT FROM HERE. THIS IS THE VERY COMPLICATED

ORGANIZATIONAL CHART OF HOMELESS SERVICES IN SONOMA AND THIS IS THE COUNTY TEAM OF HOMELESS SERVICES WE HAVE THAT EXIST TODAY. WE HAVE THREE TEAMS WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A SECOND. WE HAVE JUST AROUND 30 FULL TIME STAFF THAT ARE FUNDED MOSTLY BY COUNTY DOLLARS, SOME STATE AND FEDERAL DOLLARS AND THEY SUPPORT THREE PRIMARY FUNCTIONS. THERE'S NOT AN ARMY OF HOMELESS WORKERS, NOT A HIDDEN NETWORK OF FOLK THAT ARE WORKING ON THESE THINGS. ALL THESE THINGS HERE REPRESENT ONE HUMAN BEING DOING THEIR BEST TO WORK ON HOMELESS SERVICES. WE HAVE ABOUT 2,000 HOMELESS FOLK ACROSS THE COUNTY THAT WILL SLEEP OUTSIDE TONIGHT. THIS IS THE TEAM THAT I HAVE IN THE COUNTY TO USE TO ADDRESS THOSE 2,000 PEOPLE. THAT DOESN'T DISCOUNT THE AMAZING

WORK THAT THE NONPROFIT PARTNERS DO, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS DO, THAT FIRST RESPONDERS

OR IN SOME CASES CITY HOLMES HOMELESS STAFF DO BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO DEAL WITH THE LARGE AM OF HOMELESS FOLKS WE HAVE. NO COUNTY DOES. I HAVEN'T WORKED IN A SINGLE COUNTY WHERE Page | 33
THEY HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. AGAIN RU NOT ALONE. YOU ARE NOT ALONE SONOMA.

WE WILL GET IN TO THE TEAMS. NEXT SLIDE. I DO TALK FAST.

I CONSULTED WITH OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS MAY WE MAY HAVE IN OUR HEAD MAY BE ANSWERED LATER.

THAT'S A FANTASTIC SUGGESTION.

I FORGOT TO SAY THAT. THERE YOU GO.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I SUSPECT MANY OF THE ANSWERS WILL BE IN FUTURE SLIDES. THE HEART TEAM. YOU HEAR ABOUT THE HEART TEAM, THE SOUL TEAM AND ENDING HOMELESSNESS. THE HEART TEAM ARE THE FINDERS. THEY ARE THE PEOPLE THAT'S COUNTY SENDS OUT TO FIND FOLKS AND CONVINCE THEM TO COME INTO SHELTER WE CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE IN. IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO BE HOMELESS BUT THEY DO THEIR BEST TO GET PEOPLE INTO CASE MANAGEMENT AND THE SHELTER OPPORTUNITIES. THE HEART TEAM WAS DESIGNED ORIGINALLY TO CLEAR THE TRAIL. THAT'S IT. THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE TREATED FOR. THEY WERE CREATED FOR SWEEPS BUT THAT'S WHAT THE TEAM WAS CREATED FOR AND HAVE EXISTED FOR. WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT GOING FORWARD. COUNSEL YELL SERVICE WORKERS TRYING TO FIND HOMELESS FOLKS. THEY ARE IN THE UNINCORPORATED. SOMETIMESTHEY ARE ON THE TRAIL AND WE WILL MOVE INTO A NEW PHASE WHERE MAYBE THEY START TO DO MORE CITY SERVICES. NEXT SLIDE. THE SOUL TEAM WE CALL THESE THE KEEPERS. ONCE YOU FIND SOMEONE UCONN VINCE YOU TRY TO CONVINCE THEM TO GO INSIDE. WE HAVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, DRUG USE, MENTAL HEALTH, TESS GETTING A COPY OF THEIR ID. WE HAVE A VERY SMALL TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CALLED THE SOUL PROGRAM AND THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY THE KEEPERS.

THEIR JOB IS TO KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED, GET THEM INTO PERMANENT HOUSING. GET PEOPLE INTO LONG TERM STABLE HOUSING. WE HAVE ONE SPECIFIC WORKER THAT WORKS WITH YOUTH. HE DOES A WONDERFUL JOB SUPPORTING YOUTH AND THAT'S GENERALLY 18 TO 25. WE HAVE A HOSPITAL ADVOCATOR. AGAIN A MASSIVE CASE LOAD BUT DOES HER BEST. FINDS SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN A CREEK BED OR OVERPASS. THEN WE HAVE A FEW FOLKS THAT WORK IN THE VARIOUS SHELTER FACILITIES WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A SECOND.

THIS IS THE SMALL TEAM THAT DOES THEIR BEST TO CONNECT FOLKS ONCE THEY HAVE SORT OF BEEN FOUND TO RESOURCES AND HOPEFULLY KEEPS THEM PERMANENTLY HOUSED. NEXT SLIDE. IND BS A COMPLICATED WAY TO SAY WRAP AROUND ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE AROUND A CLIENT. WHEN YOU WITH SOMEONE THAT'S

HOMELESS YOU NEED THEM TO HAVE MEDICAL, YOU NEED THEM TO HAVE MID-- OR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS. UNFORTUNATELY THOSE ALL COME FROM DIFFERENT LOCALGOVERNMENTS OR DIFFERENT CBS'S. THE

IDEA OF THE TEAM IS TO DO THEIR BEST AND IT'S A CHALLENGE TO WRAP AROUND EVERY CERTAIN PROVIDER THAT CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE THIS PERSON BENEFITS. IT'S A COMPLICATED PROCESS. FORTUNATELY OR

UNFORTUNATELY WITH PRIVACY RULES AND HIPPA AND OTHER THINGS IT'S REALLY HARD TO SHARE INFORMATION ON THE HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL OR INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. SO THE TEAM DOES THEIR BEST TO WRAP THOSE SERVICE AROUND FOLKS. THEN THE LAST TEAM WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. MICHAEL LEADS THE TEAM. THESE ARE THE FUNDERS. THE END HOMELESSNESS PROGRAM THEIR JOB IS TO FIND MONEY. THERE'S NO DEDICATED COUNTY FUNDING OR CITY FUNDING. THERES A SPARSE NETWORK OF GRANT THAT COME OUT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT. NOTHING HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE FISCAL YEAR. AS ONE OF THE COMMENTERS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT FEDERAL LANDSCAPE IS RAPIDLY CHANGING. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TOMORROW WILL LOOK LIKE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT FUNDS HUDD WILL HAVE. THE STATE HAS A MULTIBILLION WITH A B DOLLAR BUDGET. THEY ARE CUTTING

THEIR HOMELESS PROGRAMS, REDUCING THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE BEEN RELYING ON THE LIMITED STATE AND

FEDERAL DOLLARS WE HAD YESTERDAY WE WILL NOT HAVE TOMORROW AND HOW DO WE FIND THOSE DOLLARS IS A BIG QUESTION? THE ONE THING THEY DOMAINLY IS FIND THE MONEY. THE SECOND THING THEY

DO RIGHT NOW AND THIS IS OPTIONAL IS THEY RUN OUR COC A WITH THE COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM WHICH

ASK A REQUIREMENT TO GET FEDERAL DOLLARS F YOU DON'T HAVE A COC YOU CAN'T GET THOSE HUDD DOLLARS. THERE'S A HOST OF DIFFERENT RULES AND REGULATIONS. THERE'S A SYSTEM THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE EVERYBODY THAT'S HOMELESS IN A SYSTEM THAT TRACKS THEM, TRACKS WHAT THEY DO.

THAT'S CALLED THE HMIS SYSTEM. THERE IS A 17 MEMBER BOARD OF WHICH YOUR CITY HAS A REPRESENTATIVE Page | 34

AND SEVERAL NONPROFITS THAT'S DESIGNED TO GUIDE THE OPERATIONS OF THE HOMELESS SERVICES THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP AMONG CITIES. LOCAL NONPROFIT LEADERS. THERE'S A SMALL REPRESENTATION OF COUNTY

FOLKS BUT IT'S MOSTLY A COORDINATED GROUP OF CITY PROVIDERS, COUNTY -- COUNTY NONPROFIT

PROVIDERS AND THERE'S EVEN FOLK WAS LIVED EXPERIENCE OF BEING HOMELESS ON THE BOARD THAT GUIDES THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT DO FLOW THROUGH THE BOARD THE COUNTY IS NOT IN CHARGE. WE DON'T RUN T WE AREN'T THE BOSS OF THE COC. WE JUST PROVIDE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT THAT IS MEETING MINUTES, HOSTING MEETINGS, YOU KNOW DOING ALL THE FORMAL WORK. WE FACILITATE THE GROUP. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MINUTES. THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. > FUNDING FOR HOMELESS SERVICES.

THERES A MESS. THERE'S NO GUARANTEED FUNDING AND IT'S A HOD GE PODGE. IT'S ALWAYS DIFFERENT. I HAVE

NEVER SEEN A SINGLE HOMELESSNESS BUDGET THAT LOOKS THE SAME THE BULK OF THE FUNDING COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THAT IS HUDD FUND THAT COMES THROUGH THE COC. LAST YEAR THIS COUNTY, SNOHOMISH GOT $4.6 MILLION. 1.2 MILLION WENT DIRECT TO THE COUNTY FOR COUNTY SERVICES AND THEN THE OTHER 3.4 MILLION WENT OUT TO A VARIETY OF NONPROFITS, CITY PARTNERS, OTHER GROUPS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN MY ENTIRE BUDGET FOR THE DEPARTMENT IS CLOSE TO 500 MILLION.

ALL WE GOT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS $4.6 MILLION. THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE IN FINANCE, 4.6 MILLION SOUNDS LIKE A BIG NUMBER. IT IS A SMALL NUMBER TO DEAL WITH. 2,000 HOMELESS FOLKS. IT HAS TO SUPPORT RAPID REHOUSING. HOMELESSNESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS, COORDINATED ENTRY.

ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. IT'S NOT A LOT OF FUNDING. THE STATE HAS MOVED MORE AND MORE IN TO THE

HOMELESS SPACE FOR AS MUCH AS THE GOVERNOR TALKS ABOUT SOLVING HOMELESSNESS HE DOESN'T FUND A LOT OF IT. WE HAVE THE HAPP PROGRAM. WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL ROUNDS OF THAT. WE HAVE THE ESG PROGRAM AND THESE PROGRAMS KIND OF POP UP. THERE'S A DIFFERENT SET OF REQUIREMENTS. A DIFFERENT TIMETABLE. DIFFERENT CHECK BOXES HAVE YOU TO CHECK TO GET THE VARIOUS GRANTS. MICHAEL'STEAM

SPENDED MOST OF THEIR TIME FILING A VARIETY OF REPORTS ON DIFFERENT FUNDING STREAMS TO PULL THE DOLLARS IN. THEY LIMITED. WE HAVE AROUND 3 AND A HALF DOLLARS FROM THE STATE FOR THE COC AND $3 MILLION FROM THE STATE FOR COUNTY SERVICES LAST YEAR. THAT IS REALLY ALL THAT CAME IN FROM THOSE OTHER PROVIDERS. YOU WILL HEAR WE -- YOU WILL HEAR HIPP, HOME KEY, PROPOSITION 1 BUT AGAIN THERE IS NO EASY DOLLAR DOLLARS THAT COMES THROUGH THE SYSTEM TO FUND HOMELESS SERVICES. IT IS DOZENS OF

GRANTS, ALLOCATION, DIFFERENT TIMES AND AMOUNTS AND REQUIREMENTS IT'S VERY, VERY COMPLICATED TO FUND HOMELESS SERVICES. LOCAL FUNDING. IN SOME CASES SOME CITIES USE THEIR GENERAL FUND. THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA AND THE OTHER CITIES FUND HOMES SERVICES. THAT IS AN OPPOSITE. GENERAL FUND COULD BE SPENT THERE. THEY COULD BE USED TO FUND LOCAL SERVICES. MEASURE O CAN AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT

WHY THAT SOUNDS SIMPLE IT IS RESTRICTED BECAUSE THE VOTERS VOTED ON IT TO BE RESTRICTED WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHY THAT IS THE CASE IN JUST A FEW SLIDES. YOU HAVE BIG DONORS ALSO. THERE'S A LARGE NONPROFIT NETWORK IN SONOMA. NOT A TON THAT HAVE MONEY GOES TO HOMELESS SERVICES MANY WE FUND A LOT FOR PETS AND NATURE IF A VARIETY OF ITS FANTASTIC AND I'M NOT MAKING A JUDGMENT CALL.

NOT A LOT OF MONEY POURS IN PLACES LIKE SAN FRANCISCO YOU HAVE TECH BILLIONAIRES AND A VARIETY OF OTHER FOLKS. HERE IT'S NOT QUITE THE CASE. NOT TO SAY THERE AREN'T MANY DONORS BUT IT'S NOT AS BIG AS IN OTHER PLACES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

HOUSING FIRST AND COORDINATED ENTRY YOU WILL HEAR THE TERMS ALL OVER THE PLACE I WANTED TO

DISCUSS WHAT THEY R IF ANYONE HAS DETAILED QUESTIONSLY TAP MICHAEL N HOUSING FIRST REALLY REFERS TO A HOMELESS INTERVENTION APPROACH AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. THIS HAS BEEN A REQUIREMENT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IT'S A REQUIREMENT ON MANY STATE GRANTS AND WHAT HOUSING FIRST MEANS IS

YOU HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY GIVE PEOPLE ACCESS TO PERMANENT HOUSING WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS LIKE

PARTICIPATION IN TREATMENT PROGRAMS WE CAN'T DRUG TEST OR REQUIRE YOU THAT ARE SOBER OR THAT

YOU DON'T DRINK OR USE LEGAL DRUGS AS LONG AS YOU AREN'T DOING WHAT WE WOULDN'T DO AND AS A CONDITION OF RERECEIVE THAT FUNDING WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THAT. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. THE

THOUGHT PROCESS HERE IS THAT IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS LIVING UNDER A BRIDGE AND IS A DISTRICTED

TO SUBSTANCES THE LIKELIHOOD THEY WILL ENTER A SUBSTANCE USE PROGRAM IS ZERO, IT ALMOST NONE IF Page | 35
THEY ARE UNHOUSED OR OUTSIDE. TO GET PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH THEIR ISSUES, THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, SUBSTANCE ISSUES, HOUSING THEM IS THE FIRST THING THAT YOU SHOULD DO. I'M NOT SAYING I AGREE OR DISAGREE BUT THAT'S THE LAW OF THE LAND ASK HOW WE HAVE TO OPERATE. THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT FOLKS USING SUBSTANCES AND A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT HOW YOU -- HOW DO YOU ALLOW THIS?

IT'S THE SAME AS ANY OTHER RESIDENCAL PROPERTY F YOU RENTED THE APARTMENT YOU CAN HAVE A GLASS OF WINE. MAYBE YOU CAN USE CANNABIS DEPENDING ON THE RULES, PRESCRIPTION DRUGS IF YOU AREN'T HURTING OR HARASSING PEOPLE IT THE IS WHAT IT IS. THIS IS THE LAW WE HAVE TO FOLLOW TO GET THE FEDERAL DOLLARS AND A LOT OF CASES THE STATE DOLLARS. THE COUNTY WANTS TO IMPOSE THIS. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE ARE ENDORSING. IT IS A FACT THAT TO GET THE DOLLARS YOU HAVE TO USE THE HOUSING FIRST MODALITY FOR NOW. I SUSPECT THIS IS ONE OF THE CHANGES WE WILL SEE FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION I WOULD SUSPECT IT'LL CHANGE. AS OF NOW THIS IS A REQUIREMENT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. COORDINATED ENTRY IS ESSENTIALLY A GIANT FUNNEL. WE HAVE 2,000 HOMELESS FOLKS IN -- I'M JUST SAYING IT 2,000 BASED ON THE POINT IN TIME COUNT. LET'S SAY JUST FOR ARGUMENT SAKE THAT 2,000 NUMBER IS ACCURATE. WE HAVE 2,000 FOLK THAT ARE HOMELESS TODAY. WE PROBABLY HAVE IF I HAD TO GUESS WHAT, MAYBE 20 BEDS AVAILABLE OR 20 SHELTER UNITS AVAILABLE IN THE NEXT MONTH.

SAY PROBABLY AROUND 87, 88% USE SO YEAH.

SO 2,000 PEOPLE AND 20 PLACES TO PUT THEM WHO GOES FIRST? THAT IS THE QUESTION. WHAT COORDINATED ENTRY DOES IS IT SAYS YOU NEED TO TAKE THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE FIRST. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ELDERBERRY LYRE I, THAT ARE DISABLED, THAT ARE THE MOST SICK AND MENTALLY ILL. SOCIETY WE VALUE TAKING CARE OF THE MOST ILL. THIS IS ANOTHER LAW THAT IS MANDATED AND I'M MAKING THIS SIMPLE TO THE FULLEST HERE. ESSENTIALLY WE NEED TO SCREEN FOLKS FOR VULNERABLE INDEX FIRST. THROES ARE THE FOLK THAT GET THE PERMANENT SUPPORT IF LOWING. THE FOLK THAT SHELTER FIRST. YOU FOCUS ON THE

HIGHEST NEED IN YOUR COMMUNITY FIRST FOR A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE BEDS, SHELTER BEDS ARE ALMOST NOT THERE, LOW INCOME HOUSING. THERE ARE WAYS TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH THAT AND BE A LITTLE MORE NUANCED AND INTENTIONAL. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT WITH ELDEBERRY. WE HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT THAT. WHEN YOU TAKE A LARGE POPULATION WITH MENTAL

HEALTH ISSUES OR SUBSTANCE USE ISSUES OR MIDILLNESSES AND UCONN ILLNESSES AND YOU -- CONSOLIDATE

THEM YOU WILL HAVE ISSUES AND PROBLEM AND THAT COME WAS JUST ABOUT EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE FOR A PSA UNIT. THERE ARE WAYS TO DO THIS BETTER BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE SYSTEM YOU HAVE 2,000.

YOU ARE TAKING THE SICKEST AND MOST IN NEED AND PUTTING THEM FIRST T DOES CREATE A HOST OF PROBLEMLESS. WHEN I SEE THE PAPERS, WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES THEY ARE SEEING DOWNTOWN AND A VARIETY OF OTHER PROJECTS I UNDERSTAND. IT'S NOT THAT IS BY DESIGN BUT A BY PRODUCT OF HOWS SYSTEM WORKS. THERE ARE WAYS TO MAYBE DO BETTER BUT AGAIN WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT IS SORT OF THE VALUE SYSTEM BEHIND COORDINATED ENTRY. ALL COC DEDICATED FUNDS FOR THE STATE OR FEDERAL OR COUNTY THAT COME

THROUGH ANY OF THOSE SOURCES HAVE TO FOLLOW HOUSING FIRST AND THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW COORDINATED ENTRY. IT'S A LAW, IT'S A REQUIREMENT. NOT A CHOICE. THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES FROM.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS A REALLY INTERESTING SLIDE. SEVERAL PEOPLE COMMENTED WHEN THE SLIDES WERE PRODUCED

AGAIN I WILL PROBABLY NOT GIVE THIS THE JUSTICE IT DESERVES BUT I TALKED ABOUT THE HODGE PODGE AMOUNT OF FUNDING. YOU OFTEN USE THAT. IT COMES A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PLACES AND SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO CAPTURE JUST HOW MUCH A COMMUNITY SPENDS ON HOMELESS SERVICES ON ANY GIVEN YEAR. WE FOUND A GREAT ORGANIZATION CALLED ALL HOME. I BELIEVE THE MAYOR AND OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THEIR SERVICES AND THEY HAVE A REALLY GOOD BEST GUESS ESTIMATE. THIS IS THEIR

BEST GUESS ACROSS THE COUNTY ALL OF THE CITIES F YOU LOOK ON THE UPPER LEFT HAND SIDE YOU HAVE SANTA ROSA HOUSING AUTHORITY. THEY DO VOUCHERS. THE BROWN CIRCLE YOU HAVE COUNTY OF SONOMA AND ALL THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. THE GREEN BUBBLE IS THE CARE. THE COC AND HUDD FUNDS THAT ROLL THROUGH THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY THIS IS VOUCHERS, ALL THE FOLK THAT ARE USING Page | 36

SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER ACROSS THE COUNTY AND THEN IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT THESE ARE ALL THE INVESTMENT THAT THCITIES IN SONOMA ARE MAKING IN TO HOMELESS SERVICES. THEY ARE DID THEIR BEST TO CREATE THIS FOR ONE CALENDAR YEAR AND CAME UP WITH 210 MILLION. THIS ISN'T COUNTY DOLLARS. THIS IS OUR BEST GUESS AT HOW MUCH WHEN I SAY SONOMA -- ALL OF US SPENT ON HOMELESS SERVICES IN 2024.

AGAIN IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. IT COMES FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PLACES, DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, IT PAYS FOR EVERYTHING FROM STREET OUTREACH TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. YOU CAN SEE ALL THE VARIOUS THINGS IT FUNDS. IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED WEB OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, FUNDING SOURCES, EXPENSES AND PAYEES. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THIS SLIDE TO REALLY SHOW THE COMPLEXITY OF FUNDING SERVICES. THIS DEMONSTRATES IT'S NOT THE COUNTY'S PROBLEM. NOT THE CITY'S PROBLEM OR THE STATE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WITH VERY TO HAVE THIS WEB OR BASKET TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE WE HAVE HERE IN THE COUNTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE -- A LOT OF THATMONEY WAS ONE TIME FUNDING THAT'S NOW GONNA WAY. THERE WAS A LOT OF COVID FUNDS, ARPA PROGRAM FUNDS. THAT IS ALL GONE. YOU WILL SEE A NOTABLE DECREASE THIS YEAR AFTER LOT OF THE ONE TIME EMERGENCY FUNDS HAVE GONE AWAY.

I THINK THE NEXT FEW YEARS ARE LOOKING DISMAL WITH THOSE ONE TIME FUNDS FADE AWAY YOU HEAR ABOUT MEASURE O. THE QUESTIONS I RECEIVED WERE ON MEASURE O. IT IS A SONOMA COUNTY APPROVED TAX INITIATIVE. THERE'S SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT FOLKS IN THE COUNTY VOTED ON IN 2020. I WASN'T HERE AND DIDN'T VOTE FOR T AGAIN IT PROJECTED TO GENERATE ABOUT 25 MILLION A YEAR WHICH COMES CLOSE TO THAT. SOMETIMES IT'S MORE OR LESS. IN THAT MEASURE THOUGH IN THE VOTER APPROVED MEASURE WHEN YOU READ YOUR BALLOT THE FINE PRINT STATED THAT OF THE PROCEEDS YEARLY 22% HAS TO BE SPENT ON BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. 44% HAS TO HE ABOUT SPENT ON EMERGENCY CRISIS SERVICES. 18% HAS TO BE SPENT ON MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER OUTPATIENT SERVICES. 14% CAN BE SPENT ON HOMELESS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE COORDINATION. IT'S NOT FOR HOUSING OR SHELTERS. IT'S NOT 20 GIVE THE POLICE

DEPARTMENTS, THIS IS FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR FOLK THAT ARE LIVING ON THE CREATE AND ONLY 2% CAN BE SPENT ON TRANSITIONAL AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING YOU DON'T SEE EMERGENCY HOUSING.

THE COUNTY ONLY 2% OF THAT 25 MILLION AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, HOW WHERE THE FIGURES CAME FROM.

WE CAN GET TO THAT BUT THIS IS HOW WE HAVE TO SPEND IT BASED ON WHAT WAS APPROVED IN 2020. NEXT SLIDE. WHAT DOES MEASURE O DID? I JUST THREW THE BIG TOPICS. HERE ARE EXAMPLES. I WON'T READ AT YOU BUT THESE ARE THE THING THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE CATEGORIES. WE ARE FINDING THINGS LIKE OUR

BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FACILITIES, EMERGENCY HOSPITALS, CSU AND I NEED TO STOP USING SO MANY ACRONYMS. THIS FUNDS A LOT OF THE SUBSTANCE USE. THE OUTPATIENT SERVICES. WE HAVE BIG PROBLEM WAS OPIOIDS, WE HAVE BIG PROBLEM WAS METHAMPHETAMINE. THIS FUNDS A LOT OF THAT. THIS FUNDS A LITTLE BIT OF THE HOMELESS HEALTH BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. I MEAN MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE. IT FUNDS A SMALL AMOUNT OF TRANSITIONAL AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. IT IS A SMALL PART THAT

HAVE AND IT AGAIN IS THIS IS WHAT IS IN THE BOND MEASURE I DID BRING TONIGHT PAPER COPIES IN THE BACK CORNER OF THE MEASURE O YEARLY REPORT. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THIS BY LAW. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE DETAIL IN JUST A SECOND. IT'S ALSO MANDATORY BASED ON THE LANGUAGE AND THE MEASURE AND STATE OF

CALIFORNIA LAW THAT WE HAVE THE INDEPENDENT CITIZEN'S OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT REVIEWS EVERY

EXPENSE THAT WE MAKE THEY WATCH IT LIKE HAWKS AND WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN HERE TONIGHT THAT I

GUARANTEE YOU CAN TELL YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT WHERE WE SPENT THAT MONEY AND THEY WATCH IT CLOSELY. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED GET INVOLVED ATTEND THE MEETINGS OR GET ON THE COMMITTEE. I SENT A LINK AS WELL AS ALL THE MEASURE O REPORTS IN THE BOARD MEETING. IF WE RAN OUT OF COPIES VERY MORE BUT YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE 23, 24 MEASURE O REPORT AND ON THE DIAS. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO GET BETTER. WHAT RU SEEING THE MEASURE O EXPENSES FOR EACH YEAR BROKEN OUT BY POPULATION RATIO. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IN FOUR, FIVE, SIX MONTH IS COME BACK AND SHOW YOU THE

NUMBER OF DOLLARS THAT WE SPENT FOR SERVICES FOR RESIDENTS THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS THAT IT COST

US TO GET PEOPLE INTO SUBSTANCE USE THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS THAT IT COST US TO HAVE MOBILE

RESPONSE COME RESPOND TO YOUR CRISIS CALLS WE AREN'T THERE YET AND THE COUNTY ISN'T OBLIGATED TO Page | 37

TRACKTHINGS DOWN I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU BALLPARK WHAT YOU ARE GETTING IN RETURN FOR THE BENEFITS UNFORTUNATELY AS YOU ARE BUILDING SYSTEMS LIKE MOBILE CRISIS, SUBSTANCE USE. NOT EVERY CITY WILL HAVE ONES. RU BUILDING THESE REGIONAL CENTERS. IT'S HARD TO SHOW A TAXPAYER WHAT WE ARE GIVING YOU. THAT IS MY GOAL TO TROY TO DO THAT. SO, THIS IS AN AREA WE WANT TO GET BETTER AT

AND I HOPE YOU WILL INVITE ME BACK WHEN WE DO A DEEP DIVE TO SHOW YOU KIND OF WHERE THE DOLLARS ARE GOING AND HOW THEY ARE BENEFITING THE RESIDENCES. IN SOME YEARS MAYBE IT GETS A BONUS. MAYBE YOU PAY MORE OR PAY LESS THAN YOU GET BACK IN RETURN AND CLOVE RDAL PAYS MORE BACK. YOU WILL SEE THESE CHANGES. AS THE CHAIR SAID EARLIER HOMELESSNESS DOESN'T KNOW BOUNDARIES. FOLKS DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE IN WEST COUNTY MAYBE THEY HAVE A GENERAL IDEA. THE CHARGE IS NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING OUT FOR COUNTY BOUNDARIES OR CITY BOUNDARIES, IT'S LOOKING OUT FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

THIS IS WHERE WE WILL GET BETTER NEED TO GET BETTER. BASED ON POPULATION AND THE EXPENCES N IS

ABOUT THE AMOUNT THAT WE SHOULD BE GETTING IN TERMS OF EXPENSES AND THIS ISN'T A -- I CAN'T CUT A CHECK I CAN'T DO A WIRE TRANSFER. THIS HAS TO BE DONE IN A WAY THAT MEETS MEASURE O. SOME SAY WHY CAN'T YOU GIVE THE MONEY TO THE POLICE CHIEF? I CAN'T DO THAT BY LAW. I WOULD LOVE TO BUT THAT'S NOT HOW THE MEASURE WORKS. SANITYSANTA ROSA HAS A MOBILE CRISIS TEAM. WE GIVE THEM MONEY. WE DO GIVE THEM MONEY TO FUND CLINICS, THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE. LY TALK ABOUT THAT CHANGE IN A LITTLE BIT. THERE ARE WAYS TO FUND CITIES BUT IT HAS TO MEET THE CRITERII OF MEASURE O TO DO SO. NEXT SLIDE.

MOBILE CRISIS. WE WILL WALK ABOUT THIS. WHAT I WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE AWAY IS IF YOU CALL A -- YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE AND YOU CALL 911 YOU WILL HAVE A FIRE HOUSE AND FIRE TRUCK F YOU CALL

BECAUSESOMEONE IS BREAKING IN YOU WILL HAVE A POLICE CAR, POLICE STATION AND A JAIL F YOU CALL FOR A MEDICAL EMERGENCY YOU WILL HAVE THE AMBULANCE, HOSPITAL AND PARAMEDICS. WHO DO YOU CALL FOR A SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH? POLICE HAVE BEEN THE SWISS ARMY KNIFE THIS FOREVER. THEY HAVE BEEN THE ONES TO RESPOND. THEY AREN'T THE APPROPRIATE TOOL FOR THE JOB. I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEGATIVE. I'M SURE THEY WOULD PREFER IT. WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD A 4th SYSTEM OF

EMERGENCY RESPONSE SO IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WITH A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, SUBSTANCE USE WE CAN

SEND A CO RESPONDER WHO IS A TRAINED THERAPIST THAT CAN HELP WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE. WE HAVE A VAN, A CO RESPONDER VAN AND THEN SOMEWHERE TO TAKE THAT PERSON. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A RESPITE CENTER WE CAN TRIAGE ON THE STREET. YOU NEED TO BUILD THIS SYSTEM THE GOOD NEWS IS SONOMA HAS BEEN ONE OF THE PIONEERS OF THIS PROGRAM FOR THE LAST DECADE OR SO. IT MAY NOT FEEL THAT WAY IF YOU LIVE HERE. IT MAY NOT FEEL THAT WAY IF YOU DON'T ACCESS THESERVICES BUT I REMEMBER 12 YEARS AGO IN YOLO, SONOMA WAS THE TAX BOOK MOBILE PROGRAM. THAT'S WHERE YOU WANTED TO BE.

TWO YEARS AGO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA MANDATED EVERY COUNTY, NOT CITY, COUNTY HAVE A 4 HOUR MOBILE CRISIS PROGRAM. THERE'S 440,000 RESIDENTS WE AREN'TABLE GATED TO PROVIDE IT. WE ARE MANDATED TO PROVIDE CRISIS RESPONSE FOR PEOPLE WITH MEDICAL. THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS WE ARE NOT COMPENSATED FOR ALMOST THREE QUARTERS OF THE CALLS. IF YOU CALL AND YOU HAVE MEDICAL I CAN BILL IF. IF YOU HAVE K AI SER I CAN'T BILL THEM F I CALL AND YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE I'M OUT OF LUCK.

AGAIN WE NEED REVENUE SOURCES LIKE MEASURE O OR OTHER THINGS TO PAY FOR THIS SERVICE. AGAIN IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE SERVICE TO RUN. I HEARD EARLIER HAD TO CLOSE THE FIRE SERVICE. IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO RUN THE 24-7 OPERATION. IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO BETTER WE DON'T WANT TO EXPAND OR HAVE THE QUICKEST RESPONSE TIMES. WE DON'T HAVE OFFICERS WITH POLICE. IT'S VERY COSTLY TO DO THAT.

THE ONLY REVENUE SOURCE WE HAVE TODAY AND WE AREN'T COLLECTING THIS YET IS MEDICAL FOR ABOUT A QUARTER OF OUR CALLERS. THEN MEASURE O OR COUNTY GENERAL FUNDS. THOSE ARE ALL VERY LIMITED.

AGAIN WE ARE DOING A GOOD JOB TODAY. I KNOW THERE ARE LOTS OF QUESTIONS. YOU RECEIVE 278 CALLS IN FISCAL YEAR 24-25. THEY CAME IN DISPATCH. THEY ARE CAME FROM A CELL PHONE TOWER OR FROM AN ADDRESS LOCATION. 278 FOLKS ACCESSED MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE. 142 OF THOSE CALLS WERE RESPONDED TO WITHOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT. ONE OF OUR WHITE VANS CAME OUT AND DID IT. ANOTHER 60 WERE PROBABLY LAW ENFORCEMENT OBSCENE AND CALLED FOR MOBILE CRISIS. SOME OF THEM SHOWED UP CLEARLY SOMEONE HAD SUBSTANCE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. THEY CALLED MOBILE CRISIS. AGAIN 142 AND 60. 76 OF Page | 38
THOSE WERE SUPPORTED BY CALL CENTER STAFF. SOMETIMES FOLKS CALLED BECAUSE THEY ARE IN CRISIS. OUR

MOBILE CRISIS OPERATORS TRAINED IN DEESCALATION AND SUICIDE PREVENTION AND A LOT OF CASES, NOT ALL BUT 76 OF THEM THEY WERE ABLE TO TALK POKES OUT OF THE CRISIS MODE OVER THE PHONE. TODAY THE CALL CENTER FOR THE CITY AND THIS IS THE ENTIRE COUNTY. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE THREE SYSTEMS AND WHY I SAY THE ENTIRE COUNTY WE HAVE EIGHT FULL TIME STAFF. WE HAVE 13 IN THE FIELD TEAMS THEY ARE THE FOLK THAT RESPOND AND FIVE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING SUPPORT AND FOR A COUNTY OF 440,000 PEOPLE TO RUN THIS OPERATION FULL TIME THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. WE ARE LOOKING TO GROW THAT AND

EXSTAND IT AND REALLY DO OUR BEST F YOU ADD IT UP EVERY POLICE OFFICER, IN THE COUNTY I GUARANTEE THAT FTE WOULD BE HIGHER WE ARE TRYING TO DO OUR BEST WITH THE LIMITED AND KIND OF NEW SYSTEM.

IT'LL ONLY GET BETTER WITH TIME. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? CAN I GO BACK ONE SLIDE? WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY QUICKLY AND I -- I WAS READING OFF THAT. THE SERVICES CURRENTLY PROVIDED BY THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS.

IN RESPONSE IS THE SORT OF HOME GROWN GODFATHER OF THE PROGRAMS FROM SANTA ROSA. THIS HAS EXISTED FOR A LONG TIME. IT WAS THE INDUSTRY STANDARD WAY BEFORE MOBILE CRISIS WAS A THING. THEY HAVE A ROBUST MODEL. IT'S IN THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT, HAS PARAMEDICS, OTHER THINGS THAT'S RESPOND. THEY RESPOND TO ANYTHING THAT IS -- IN SANTA ROSA CITY LIMITS. THERE'S A PROGRAM CALLED SAFE THAT IS RUN BY A LOCAL NONPROFIT THAT OPERATES IN SOUTH COUNTY. THIS IS FUNDED BY THE CITIES TO SOME DEGREE. IT'S ALSO FUNDED BY THE COUNTY. IT IS A PARTNERSHIP WHERE WE SHARE COSTS FOR THIS. EVE WHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY F IT'S INCORPORATED ITS COVERED BY THE COUNTY'S PROGRAM. WEST COUNTY.

WE COVER EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS NOT ONE OF THOSE OTHER TWO PROGRAMS. IT'S MY HOPE AND GOAL OVER THE NEXT YEAR TO REALLY STREAM LINE THE THREE PROGRAMS CLOSER TO ONE. NOT SAYING WE WILL TAKE THEM OVER BUT THEY ALL NEED TO BILL MEDICAL NONE OF THEM ARE DOING THAT TODAY. WE HAVE MULTIPLE SETS OF DISPATCHERS, DATA. WE HAVE RULES FOR ENGAGEMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO GET TO A BETTER

JOB COORDINATING FRONT AND SO THIS IS AN AREA THAT I COULD USE ENCOURAGEMENT FROM THE MAYORS

AND COUNCILMEMBER AND ENCOURAGING THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENTS OR HOMELESS STAFF, LET'S WORK TONIGHT. LET'S SHARE COSTS. LET'S, YOU KNOW THAT'S --.

I WILL -- I HIGHLIGHT THE RULE AND SAY WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO FURTHER THIS ON THE MAYOR AS

AND COUNCILMEMBER AND ASSOCIATION'S SIDE BUT THERE IS NOT BEEN APPOINTMENTS TO THE AD HOC FROM THE BOARD SO WE HAVE BEEN WAITING TO GO.

GOT IT I
THE APPOINTMENTS WERE MADE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE MAYORS AND COUNCILMEMBERS TO GET THE FIRST MEETING ON THE BOOKS. THAT HAS ACTUALLY TAKEN PLACE.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT. COORDINATE WITH GERARD AND ASK HIM WHY HE DIDN'T TELL THE REST OF US.

AND I HAVE A FEELING I WILL BE A FREQUENT VISITOR TO THAT MEETING AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. THIS

IS REALLY BIG NEWS YOU ARE HEARING THIS BEFORE EVEN THE SUPERVISOR TODAY AND I HOPE I DON'T GET IN TROUBLE. THE MEASURE O WILL BE RELEASED IN TWO DAYS. THAT WILL BE OPEN TO CITIES, NONPROFITS AND

SERVICE PROVIDER THAT MEET THE MEASURE O REQUIREMENTS YOU CAN'T ASK FOR TWO NEW POLICE OFFICERS. YOU CAN'T ASK FOR A NEW CHUNK OF FUNDING. IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF MEASURE O. THE WEBSITE LINK IS IN ALL THE DOCUMENTS HERE BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO

WORK WITH THE SUPERVISOR OR WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON KIND OF A JOINT APPLICATION TO IMPORTANT THAT. I HEARD CONCERNS EARLIER AND PUSH THAT OVER THE LINE. THAT COULD BE A GREAT PROJECT WE CAN APPLY FOR. TEN MILLION SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY COUNTY WIDE. IT'LL GO VERY FAST. EVERY CITY WANTS SOME. EVERY NONPROFIT NEEDS SOME. WE WILL RELEASE THIS IN TWO DAYS. I AM TOLD AND NOW MY STAFF HAS TO DO IT. THIS IS AGAIN FOR HOMELESSNESS, MENTAL HEALTH, HOUSING PROGRAMS AND PROJECT ACROSS THE COUNTY WE ARE -- SORT OF MAKING THE STATEMENT THAT IS ONLY FOR EXISTING PROGRAMS. THE

REASON WE ARE SAYING THAT IS WE DON'T WANT TO STAND UP NEW AND INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS IN THE MIDDLE OF MAJOR CUTS. FEDERAL FUNDING FREE FALL. THERE HAS TO BE A NEXUS TO AN EXISTING PROGRAM SOMETHING LIKE GRAVESTON COMMONS WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN EXISTING PROGRAM. EXPANDING A CRISIS SERVICE OR SOMETHING TO YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED EXISTING PROGRAM. IF Page | 39

IT'S TO FUND WCCS FOR SOME OF THE AMAZING WORK THEY DO AND DEFRAY THE COST THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN EXISTING PROGRAM. WE WILL HAVE BONUS POINT FOR THOSE THAT HAVE RECEIVE REVENUE LOSS. WE KNOW THAT THE STATE IS CUTTING FUNDS. WE KNOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS PULLING BACK GRANTS AND WE ALL LOSING REVENUE. THAT'S GOING TO GIVE FOLKS BONUS POINT PRESIDENTS. WE ARE

TRYING TO GET MONEY OUT WHEN OUR PARTNERS NEED IT AND TRYING TO BE GOOD COLLABORATORS AND PUT IT WHERE IT'S NEED. WE ARE ENCOURAGING PARTNERSHIPS WE LOVE WHEN YOU HAVE GROUPS WORKING TOGETHER. JUST TODAY AND AGAIN THIS HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE ACCORD. WE ARE DISCUSSING THE

POTENTIAL OF FUTURE NOFAS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS DOING ONE YEARLY TO REALLY HELP PAD

EVERYBODY AS WE KIND OF GET THROUGH THE TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES AND SEE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL DO. THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE THINKING ABOUT. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST T SHOULD BE RELEASED IN TWO DAYS. WE WILL DO A PRESS RELEASE AND SHARE ALL THE INFORMATION. THIS IS THE SUPERVISORS AND THE COUNTY REALLY PUTTING THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS. VERY PROUD TO SHARE THIS TONIGHT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WHAT IS THE COC? I WON'T SPEND A TON OF TIME ON THIS I TALKED ABOUT THIS TOPIC EARLIER TODAY. THE COC IS A CONTINUING OF CARE. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT BY HUDD, TO RECEIVE ANY OF THE

FUNDING YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT GROUP THAT HAS ALL SORTS OF RULES ON HOW THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY, HOW THEY OPERATE. WHERE THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY TO RECEIVE THAT FUNDING. THE COUNTY IS NOT THE COC. THAT'S A COMMON MISTAKE WE ARE THE LEAD AGENCY AND THE LEAD AGENCY PURELY IS LIKE THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO THE COC. WE DON'T GUIDE IT, DIRECT T TELL IT HOW TO VOTE. WE ARE DON'T -- DO WE HAVE A VOTE? WE DON'T.

THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE A VOTE ON THE COC. WHEN FOLKS LIKE THE COC. THAT COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH THE COUNTY IS JUST THE ADMINISTRATIVE. PERMANENT SUPPORTING HOUSING.

COORDINATED ENTRY AND HMIS. WE SUPPORT THE SYSTEMS FOR THE LARGER COLLABORATIVE GROUP OF CITIES, NONPROFITS PROVIDERS AND OTHER FOLKS. THAT IS WHAT THE COC IS -- IT IS NOT THE COUNTY AND OUTSIDE OF THE LEAD AGENCY THE COUNTY DOESN'T CONTROL THE COC. NEXT SLIDE I ALSO WANT TO SAY YOU WILL SEE WE HAVE INFORMATION ON HOW TO GET INVOLVED THE COC. MAYOR IS ON THE BOARD. WE HAVE AN ACTIVE COC THAT MEATS MONTHY ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE I HAVE BEEN A PART OF OR SEEN AND THERE'S ALSO A VARIETY OF SUBCOMMITTEES YOU CAN ATTEND THEM. THEY ARE ALL PUBLIC ALL THE MEETING MATERIALS ARE PUBLIC. THE COMMITTEES YOU CAN ACTUALLY JOIN. IF YOU ARE A NERD AND

WANT TO DIVE DEEP INTO SOME OF THE TECHNICAL DETAILS OR HOUSING -- THOSE ARE ALL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND YOU CAN JUMP INTO THOSE AND YOU WILL SEE THE LINK AT THE END.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. NEXT SLIDE. SORRY. THIS IS THE COUNTY HAS A STRATEGIC PLAN TO END HOMELESSNESS. THIS IS THE COUNTY WITH THE BIG C THIS IS ALL OF US. THE COC. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HEAD OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS WHERE WE NEED TO HEAD. YOU HEARD ME SAY EARLIER WE HAVE ABOUT 2,000 HOMELESS RESIDENTS. WE HAVE MAYBE 20 UNIT ACROSS THE BOARD TONIGHT TO GET FOLKS IN TO. IT IS EXTREMELY LIMITED IN TERMS OF HOUSING INVENTORY. THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO AS A CITY, AS A COUNTY AND A STATE AND MISSION WE NEED TO BUILD HOUSING. WE DON'T HAVE THE HOUSING UNITS WE NEED. YOU EACH HAVE MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY. FOLK THAT ARE COMING OUT OF COLLEGE YOU ARE STRUGGLING. NOT LOWING STONES. EVERYBODY IS STRUGGLING. THERE IS NO LOW INCOME HOUSING INVENTORY. IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. CITY BUDGETS ARE STRAINED. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE HOUSING INVENTORY.

LAST YEAR WE HAD A BANNER YEAR. THE COC. THE CITY, NONPROFIT COMMUNITY, GRANT FUNDERS. WE PRODUCED 401 UNIONS OF A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES. THAT'S SUPPORTIVE HOUSING,

TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, A VARIETY OF PROJECTS ACROSS THE COUNTY AND THE REASON I SAY THAT WAS A

BANNER YEAR IS WE REALLY TAPPED OUT THE BALANCE OF ALL THE ARPA FUNDING, ALL THE CARES FUNDING AND THE -- PLEASE DON'T EXPECT 401 GOING FORWARD. IF WE COULD PRODUCE 50 UNIT ACROSS THE COUNTY, 100 UNITS, 150, PER YEAR THAT GIVES US A PLACE TO PUT THOSE 2,000 PEOPLE. FOLKS ASK HOW YOU SOLVE HOMELESSNESS. THAT'S THE SIMPLE ANSWER THAT IS EXTREMELY COMPLICATED TO EXECUTE AND THIS IS THE STRUGGLE THAT EVERY CITY IS FACING. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE UNITS TO HOUSE PEOPLE AS THE POPULATION GROWS. A STRONGER SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. I HAVE SEEN THE PAPERS AND HEARD FROM COUNCILMEMBERS Page | 40

AND -- WE NEED STRONGER SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ONCE PEOPLE ARE HOUSED AND WE TALKED ABOUT ONCE YOU HOUSE FOLKS, RU TAKING FOLKS WITH SUBSTANCE USE ISSUES, A HISTORY OF DOMESTIC ISSUES. YOU PUT THEM ALL ON A DENSE, URBAN HOUSING ENVIRONMENT. YOU WILL HAVE -- WE WILL HAVE BETTER SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, BETTER CASE MANAGEMENT. BETTER SUBSTANCE USE SERVICES, BETTER MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES WE HAVE ALL OF THEM ON THE SHOE STRING BUDGET OR WITH NO BUDGET WE HAVE RESULTS. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME RESULTS AND OUTCOMES WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PLACES. OFTEN TIME THIS IS DOCTOR THE FUNDING IS GOING TO BE LIMITED WHICH IS NOT THE BUDGETS. FOCUSING ON SUPPORTIVE SERVICE IS THE NEXT BIGGEST STRATEGIC PLAN PRIORITY. THEN AGAIN OPERATING IS ONE COORDINATED SYSTEM. I KNOW THAT FOLKS ARE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY ARE HERE ABOUT ELDERBERRY OR ABOUT WHATEVER IT IS. WE WILL NEVER SOLVE HOMELESSNESS WORKING IN ONE CITY WITH ONE PERSON AT A TIME WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. I KNOW IT'S EASY TO SAY THAT WHEN YOU HAVE

SOMEONE SLEEPING ON YOUR PORCH BUT IF WE DON'T WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED RESOURCES WE WILL NEVER MAKE A DENT IN THIS. THE CITY AND COUNTY THAT COLLABORATE AND WORK WELL TOGETHER

ARE GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT EXCEL AND THE CITY THAT FIGHT OR DIG IN OR SUE EACH OTHER OR BLAME EACH OTHER YOU WILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM YOU HAD FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. YOU HAVE TO SOLVE THIS TOGETHER AND I'M SPEAKING EXPERIENCE. I HAVE BEEN AS A CITY COUNCILMEMBER I HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS, AS A COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE. THIS IS THE WAY WE HAVE TO OPERATE BECAUSE THE FUNDING SO LIMITED. BECAUSE THE STAFFING IS SO LIMITED AND BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS SO LARGE. THESE ARE THE BIG THREE GOALS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. POINT IN TIME COUNT I WON'T SPEND A TON OF TIME ON THIS THE WAY WE COUNT AND THIS SOUNDS RIDICULOUS BUT IT'S TRUE. ONCE A YEAR, ONCE EVERY YEAR SOMETIMES, EVERY OTHER YEAR WE GO OUT AND HAND COUNT PEOPLE WE HAVE A HAND SURVEY. WE TRAIN A LOT OF FOLKS. I'M SURE SOME OF YOU HAVE DONE IT IN THIS ROOM AND WE GO OUT AND DO A SAND CENSUS. THAT'S THE BEST

GUESS AT HOW MANY ARE LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY ARE HOMELESS AND IF THEY ARE SHELTERED OR NOT,

UNSHELTERED MEANS WE SEE THEM ON THE STREET, UNDER A BRIDGE N A CREEK, IN A CAR, SHELTERED MEANS IN A SHELTER FACILITY, MAYBE A PSH. WE TRACK THIS NUMBER EVERY COUPLE YEARS. WE MENTIONED EARLIER THE CHAIR MENTIOND THAT WE ARE AT 16 IN 2025. I KNOW IT PROBABLY DOESN'T FEEL THAT WAY FOR SOME

OF YOU BUT YOU WILL NOTICE THAT LOOKING ACROSS THE BOARD HERE WEST COUNTY, SO THE UNINCORPORATE IS THE AT 181. FOLKS WANDER. THEY COME UP AND DOWN. I KNOW 16 MAY SOUND SMALL BUT IT'S OUR BEST WAY TO ACCURATELY ESTIMATE HOW MANY HOMELESS WE HAVE IN A COMMUNITY. THE ENTIRE NATION DOES THIS. EVERY COC ACROSS THE NATION DOES THIS IT'S REQUIRED BY HUDD. IT'S THE BEST WAY TO LOOK AT IF WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS, IF NUMBERS GOING ARE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP OR DOWN.

IN 2011 YOU ARE DRIVING AROUND AND SEE CAMPS. THE TRAIL WAS OVER RUN WE HAD 4700 HOMELESS FOLKS IN THE POINT AND TIME COUNT. 4700. AS OF THE LAST COUNT IN 2025 WE ARE AT 1900 THAT'S SERIOUS PROGRESS. THAT'S BEEN CUT BY HALF. I'M NOT TRYING TO DIMINISH THE NEEDS WE HAVE BUT THE COUNTY HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS AND IN OTHER AREAS FRANKLY THE NUMBER CONTINUES TO GROW. YOU DON'T SEE THE TREND ACROSS THE STATE. THAT NUMBER CONTINUES TO ESCALATE FROM 2001. SAN FRANCISCO SAME THING. THAT IS A LOT OF DUE IF PART TO COC, THE CITIES AND NONPROFITS. THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. IT'S EASY TO SAY THAT WHEN YOU HAVE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPACTING YOU PERSONALLY. THE BIG NUMBER IS GOING DOWN. WE HOPE TO CONTINUE TO SEE THAT GO DOWN. THE PROBLEM THOUGH IS THAT AGAIN A LOT

OF THIS WAS SUPER FUNDED BY ARP BY CARES AND ALL THE FUNDING STREAMS WE HAVE THE PANDEMIC I

DON'T EXPECT THAT WE ARE WILL SEE THE NUMBER TREND DOWN WE DON'T HAVE THE REVENUE SOURCES TO PROVIDE THAT. WE WON'T BREAK OWL THE CELEBRATION CAKE BUT THAT'S GOOD NEWS AND SOMETHING I WANTED TO GET ACROSS TO THIS COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE.

THE FINAL NUMBERS WILL WE RELEASED AT THE END OF AUGUST. WE HAVE ANOTHER TECHNICAL SYSTEM THAT IS A LITTLE BETTER. IT'S THE BY NAMES LIST. I WILL SAY THIS IN A RUDIMENTARY WAY. IT'S A SYSTEM IN

WHICH WE USE LAW ENFORCEMENT, SHELTER OPERATORS, FOLK THAT KNOW THE HOMELESS TO REALLY VERIFY

THAT THEIR NAMES IN FACT THE HOMELESS PERSON FROM THAT COMMUNITY IT'S A DOUBLE CHECK, A FACT CHECK. IT OFTEN HELPS US HAVE A KIND OF A BETTER SNAP SHOT OF THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY. WE HAVE Page | 41

SEVERAL DIFFERENT LISTS ONE, THE COUNTY HAS ONE, I THINK THIS IS THE CLOSEST YEAR WE HAVE EVER HAD TO THE BY NAMES LIST COUNT AND THE POINT IN TIME COUNT. IS THAT CORRECT? ON THE WEEKEND -- OUR DATA TEAM CAN PULL THE DATA. IT WAS WITH IN 100 OF THE HOMELESS COUNT.

THE DAY OF THE HOMELESS COUNT IT'S AROUND 1850 WHEREAS THE COUNT WAS AROUND 1950. IT WAS A -- ACTUALLY A LITTLE LOWER BUT IT WAS WITH IN 100. I DO WANT TO SHOUT OUT TO ALL OF OUR PARTNERS.

EACH REGION HAS A BY NAMES LIST AND THEN OUR COUNTY TEAM COMBINE THAT INTO ONE TO TRY TO GIVE A

SNAP SHOT OF REALLY WHO ARE THE -- WHO IS HOMES, EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS THAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY. A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVE INTO HOMELESSNESS AND MIGHT BE HOMELESS FOR A FEW DAYS THEY MOVE BACK INTO FAMILY OR FRIENDS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE YEAR ROUND IN A SHELTER OR EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WHO ARE THERE. THE HOMELESS. I SEE CHRISTY IN THE AUDIENCE THEY ARE LEAD THE EFFORTS BY HERE IN WEST COUNTY.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE THREE MORE SLIDES LEFT. I'M SORRY FOR BORING YOU TO DEATH. WE ARE ALMOST AT THE END HERE. I WANT TO JUST START WITH WHERE THE COUNTY STARTED. WHERE THE COUNTY HAS FOCUSED. THE ORIGINAL TEAM -- THEY DIDN'T EXIST TEN YEARS AGO. THEY WERE CREATED AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE YEAR.

I SHOULD HAVE PUT THAT HERE. SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO CLEAR THE TRAIL. THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE HEART TEAM AND THE SOUL TEAM AND WE HAVE INBT. THEY WERE ALSO CREATED TO ASSIST THE SHERIFF I CLEARING CAMPS ON COUNTY PROPERTY. GOING BACK TO THAT 4,000 PLUS NUMBER WE HAD CAMPS EVERYWHERE. THIS WAS CREATED AT THAT POINT IN TIME TO DEAL WITH CAMPS ON COUNTY PROPERTY. THAT WAS IT. THEY ASSISTED WITH CAL TRANS, THEY ASSIST THE SHERIFF OR THE DIFFERENT WATERWAYS OFFICIALS.

CLEAR THE WATERWAYS. SOMETIMES WE TAKE A REFERRAL FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR A STATE OFFICIAL

AND THEY WERE FUNDED THROUGH A VARIETY OF SPECIALITY GRANT THAT LET US -- FOR MEDICALLY FRAGILE FOR COVID WHICH WAS HELPING PEOPLE STAY SAFE DURING THE PANDEMIC AS WELL. THEN IN SOME LIMITED CASES THEY WOULD SUPPORT SITES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THERE ARE. SIX OR SEVEN.

ABOUT SEVEN IN SOME OF THE CITIES. HEELSBURG HAS A FANTASTIC SITE. THERE IS GOING TO BE ONE HERE.

SANTA ROSA HAS ONE. THERE'S QUITE A FEW.

WE WERE SUPPORTING THE SITES NOT ALL OF THEM AND AGAIN I HAVE 22 -- WE HAVE 22 CASE MANAGEMENT STAFF ACROSS THE STATE. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE POPULATION, THE COUNTY THERE'S 22 FOLK ACROSS THE COUNTY. WE HAVE ABOUT 120 CLIENT BEDS TODAY.

THAT'S BEING THE VILLAGE, WE ARE JUST BRINGING A PLACE CALLED ARROWHEAD PLACE FOR FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN HOMELESS. THE COUNTY SPECIFICALLY CONTROLS OUTSIDE OF THE OTHER SHELTER SYSTEMS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR TODAY IS ONTO NEXT SLIDE. THAT IS WHERE IS THE COUNTY HEADED? WE HAVE ALL THE SAME PRIORITIES. THE FIRST THING WAS THE TRAIL COULD NEVER BE WHAT IT WAS I SAID OKAY. POINT TAKEN. WE HAVE A COUPLE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH PROP1 AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IS MOVING IN TO THE HOMELESS SPACE THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT $9 MILLION, ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO SERVE HOMELESS RESIDENCE THAT ARE MENTALLY ILL. WE ARE LOOKING AT COULD WE SEVEN A CERTAIN POPULATION. WE TAKE A CHUNK OF PEOPLE HERE AND THERE.

WE HAVE A CASE LOAD THAT SUPPORTS PEOPLE WITH HIGH MENTAL HEALTH AND GETS THEM READY FOR LONG TERM SUPPORTIVE HOUSING VERSES PUTTING THEM IN A HOUSING COMPLEX AND HOPING FOR THE BEST.

COULD WE HAVE BETTER WIDE COUNTY LINKS TO SUBSTANCE USE? THE ONE THING I NOTICED WHEN OFF THE BAT I HAVE THREE MAIN DIVISIONS THE HOMELESS DIVISION, THE MENTAL HEALTH AND THE PUBLIC HEALTH.

THOUGH THEY ARE SUDDENLY EVERYBODIING THE SAME NONE OF THEM TALK OR WORK TOGETHER IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT. IT HAPPENS IN EVERY GOVERNMENT. HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO THE MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORTS THEY NEED? THAT THEY HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO SUBSTANCE USE. THEN LASTLY IT'S HOW DO WE SUPPORT OUR CITY PARTNERS YOU THIS FISCAL CRISIS. MOST OF OUR CITY RIGHT NOW HAS A SIGNIFICANT DEFICIT OR STRUCTURAL DEFICIT. THEY ARE ALL HURTING. THEY ARE OFTEN THE FIRST TO GO. WE KNOW THE STATE FUNDING BEING CULT. THE FEDERAL FUNDING. HOW CAN WE BE BETTER PARTNERS.

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IT IS NOT SITTING ON A SECRET WAR CHEST OF FUNDS. WE CAN CREATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS, NEEDS AND FEARS. YOUR CONCERNS AND HOPES. I THINK THERE IS A BETTER WAY AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO PRODUCE THAT PATH FORWARD OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.

NEXT SLIDE IS JUST SOME LIGHT READING MATERIAL IF ANYONE WANTS TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION.

AGAIN IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT POINT IN TIME COUNT THE COC, NOFA, STATE OR FEDERAL FUNDING THERE'S LINKS TO TONS OF INFORMATION. IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND A COC MEETING IF YOU WANT TO JOIN THE BOARD OR WATCH THE OLD VIDEOS OR WATCH A LIVE STREAM IT'S ALL THERE. IF YOU ARE CURIOUS ABOUT LEARNING MORE ABOUT PROPOSITION 1 THERE'S A LINK THERE OR TALK TO GREG IN THE AUDIENCE. AGAIN WE WANT TO DIFFERENT FOLKS AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN ON ALL OF THE ITEMS. THEY ARE COMPLICATED. WHAT SOUNDS LIKE A SIMPLE THING IS NOT SIMPLE TO SOLVE. THAT CLOSES OUT THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT. I

THINK THE LAST ONE IS MAYBE A QUESTION SLIDE BUT WE WILL LEAVE THAT AND I WANT TO HAND IT BECOME

TO THE CHAIR TO SEE IF SHE HAS ANY COMMENTS TO CLOSE US OUT OR ANY THOUGHTS ON WHAT WE HAVE SAID SO FAR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT TO MENTION THAT GREG -- I CAN'T REMEMBER IF HE GAVE HIS FULL NAME EARLIER. HE IS RELENTLESS IN HIS PER SUIT OF ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS. HE IS ON THE NONPROFIT SIDE AND

JOINED THE DARK SIDE AND SEVENS ON GO COMMITTEES AS A COUNTY APPOINTEE AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE

THAT SHOWS UP AT THE BOARD MEETINGS TO WATCH US AND MAKE SURE WE ARE SPENDING OUR DOLLARS APPROPRIATELY WHICH I AM GRATEFUL FOR. YOU KNOW THE FINAL THING THAT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IS

THAT I'M GUESS THAT THE CITY AS IS THE COUNTY OF SONOMA IS STRUGGLING TO IMPLEMENT THE HOUSING

ELEMENT THAT WE WERE GIVEN RIGHT THROUGH THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS, YOU KNOW WHICH COMES

DOWN FROM THE STATE THROUGH EMPTY -- AND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER THAT WE ARE FACING IN SONOMA IT'S REALLY STRAGGERRING THE MEDIAN HOME PRICE IS OVER $1.1 MILLION. THE MEDIAN HIM COME FOR AN INDIVIDUAL IS $50,000. YOU KNOW HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE HUGE GAP WE HAVE IN SONOMA BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY WE NEED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES, WE JUST NEED HOUSING.

IN ADDITION TO TACKLING THE CHALLENGE OF HOMELESSNESS AND COORDINATING BETTER AND LOOKING AT

POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES AND CONTINUING OUR PARTNERSHIP I HOPE THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW DO

WE BUILD MORE, BOTH IN THE CITY AS WELL AS IN THE URBAN SERVICES AREAS ESPECIALLY AS THE COUNTY

UNDERTAKES IT'S GENERAL PLAN UPDATE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE INVITATION TO ATTEND

THE MEETING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR FACILITATION AND COORDINATION OF THE AGENDA AND ALL THE QUESTIONS BACK AND FORTH. I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU AGAIN AND MICHAEL FOR COMING AND FOR ALL OF YOUR TIME AND FIELDING

THE QUESTIONS AS M ARYA IS -- OVER THE WEEKEND PUTTING TOGETHER ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. WITH THAT I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES AND THIS TIME I WANT TO START -- NO.

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

OKAY. I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I WILL START OUT WITH A QUICK STATEMENT. IT WAS THE LAST THING ON MY BRAIN. I -- I LIKE PROBABLY MANY OTHER PEOPLE HAVE JUST READ THAT BOOK BY EZRA KLINE. I'M KIND OF WONDERING HOW THE COUNTY CAN REDUCE THE COST OF BUILDING HOUSES. THROUGH JUST MAKING THINGS -- CUTTING THE RED TAPE. THIS KIND OF THING JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE. SO, WE HAD ZERO PEOPLE IN SHELTERED HOMES LAST YEAR. HOW DID THAT NUMBER HAPPEN? WE HAVE ELDERBERRY THERE.

THERE'S NOT A CLASSIFIED SHELTER IN THE DAY OF THE COUNT WAS CLOSED. THIS YEAR ON THE DAY OF THE COUNT IT WAS GOING INTO REHAB IT DIDN'T OPEN BACK UP IF WE HAD A DROP FROM 180 OR -- WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS DOWN TO LIKE 16 DOES THAT EXPLAIN -- MAYBE THE RV'S WENT AWAY OR RISE AND SHINE OR SOMETHING. IT IS HELPFUL KIND OF LIKE TO PUT CONTEXT IN SOME OF THE NUMBERS AND LIKE WHEN I WAS

LIKE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE DATA I WAS TRYING TO FEEL IF THERE WAS A CAUSE AND EFFECT THAT I COULD -- USE AS A TOOL GOING FORWARD TO HELP FRAME OUR RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS.

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UNINCORPORATED INSTEAD OF THE CITY. LAST YEAR IT WAS LIKE 50 AND 165 THIS YEAR AND 118 IN 16. THE BEST GUESS I COULD HAVE -- IS THAT -- THE DAY OF THE ACCOUNT PEOPLE SHIFT ADD ROUND. THEY MOVED, PEOPLE ALSO KNOWING THE HOMELESS COUNT IS TAKING PLACE. THEY MAY MOVE TO A MORE DISCREET LOCATION. THEY MAY NOT -- THEY MAY NOT WANT TO BE SEEN.

I JOG MOST MORNINGS. SIX IN THE MORNING AND SO LIKE I -- PLAY A GAME WITH MYSELF OF LIKE SPOT THE

PERSON LITTLE BIT AND I HAVE NOTICED QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT JOG IN THE AMERITRADE TRAIL AND HAVE NOTICED IT CLEANED UP AND SUPER GRATEFUL ABOUT JOEL IMPROVING. MY DAUGHTER LIKES TO RIDE DOWN

THAT ROAD TO A FRIEND SO IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT ACCESS TO ELDERBERRY BECOMES LIKE A MORE USED PATH AND SOMETIMES MORE USED FACILITY HELPS OUT, MORE EYES ON THE GAME. I WANT TO COMMEND THE NUMBER THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WAS LIKE 4,000 -- AND THEN IT WENT DOWN TO 1900 OR SO.

THAT -- I'M SORRY.

AROUND 44, 4500 IN 2011 BEFORE MY TIME AND THAT WAS RIGHT AFTER THE GREAT RECESSION. I WILL SAY YOU KNOW THAT WAS PROBABLY A BIT OF AN AVERAGE. WE GOT MORE REFINED ABOUT YOU THAT WAS AFTER THE GREAT RECESSION IN 2009, IT WAS A PRETTY HUGE NUMBER. EVEN WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN 2015 WE WERE AROUND 31, 3200 WE HAD SIGNIFICANTLY COME DOWN STILL ALMOST 2,000 PEOPLE STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR A COUNTY OUR SIZE.

YEAH AND WE JUST -- WE OFTEN FIND OURSELVES KIND OF AWAITING OUR NEARBY CITIES OF THE SAME SIZE.

LIKE WHAT PORTION OF OUR HOMELESSNESS IS RELATIVE TO OTHER COUNTIES AND THEN ALSO I KIND OF WANTED TO ADDRESS THE IMPACT OF CHURCHES ON THIS AND IT'S -- WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING BUT --.

I WOULD SAY AS FAR AS OTHER COUNTIES THIS YEAR WE HAVE DONE -- A COUNT EVERY YEAR SINCE 2015 WHICH I STARTED WHICH I PUT INTO PLACE YOU CAN BLAME ME FOR THAT. WE WANTED TO HAVE BETTER DATA YEAR TO YEAR ONLY A COUPLE OTHER COUNTIES IN THE NORTH BAY DID COUNTS THIS YEAR. SOLANO HAD A REDUCTION OF ALMOST THE SAME AMOUNT AS US. THEY WENT DOWN 25% EVEN HIGHER AND THEY ARE DOWN IT 2100. NAPA WAS DOWN 10 TO 15% I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SAYS I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH BOTH. WE SEE THE WORTH DAY COUNTY THAT DID THE COUNT ALL SAW SIMILAR DROPS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S MACRO ECONOMIC OR JUST LIKE THE SERVICES STARTING TO WORK WHICH IS LIKE MY FINAL QUESTION -- I WILL CUT IT SHORT. HOW DO YOU VALUE YOUR WORK? HOW DO YOU JUDGE YOUR PERFORMANCE YEAR ON AND YEAR ON. DO YOU, WORK OUT THE COST OR THE IMPACT OF HOMELESSNESS ON THE GENERAL ECONOMY OR LIKE HOW YOU GOT -- HOW YOU --.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THERE'S ABOUT SIX THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT ON. WE TRACK THOSE MONTHLY. YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE ON THE WEBSITE. WE HAVE A NEW WEBSITE THAT WE JUST UPDATED AND THAT'S LOOKING AT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS ON A GIVEN DAY. HOW MANY ARE STAYING -- RETURNING TO HOMELESSNESS AFTER GETTING HOUSED. OUR RETENTION RATE IS GENERALLY AROUND 93% SO

IT STICKS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AND THEN HOW MANY PEOPLE GET PLACED INTO HOUSING EVERY YEAR FROM A SHELTER, FROM THE STREETS. WE ALSO LOOK AT INCOME. ARE PEOPLE INCREASING INCOME WHICH IS OFTEN OVERLOOKED. WE WANT TO LOOK AT HOW PEOPLE ARE INCREASING, ARE THEY GETTING EMPLOYED, IF THEY

CAN'T WORK ARE THEY GETTING ON THE SOCIAL SECURITY, OTHER BENEFITS AND HOW LONG ARE PEOPLE

HOMELESS AND HOW LONG ARE THEY EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WHICH TENDS TO BE SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR. THAT'S A STUBBORN NUMBER WE REALLY WANT TO GET DOWN. IF YOU ARE IN SHELTER OR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING RU STILL CONSIDERED HOMELESS THAT'S ANOTHER KEY FACTOR. IF YOU ARE AT BARRY ISAAC'S CENTER RU STILL HOMELESS EVEN IF YOU HAVE A SHELTER BED BED. IT'S NOT UNTIL YOU GET A KEY AND A ROOM OF YOUR OWN THAT YOU CAN -- A LEASE YOU CAN SIGN, RENT RU PAYING THEN RU OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.

WITHIN MORE. I APOLOGIZE. WHEN PEOPLE BECOME HOUSED DO THEY GET LIKE ID'S THEY CAN BECOME MORE VISIBLE PEOPLE. DO THEY GET PO BOX. CAN THEY START PARTICIPATING IN --.

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LOT OF THE FUNDING STREAMS AN ORGANIZATION CAN'T REQUIRE SOMEONE KNOW. THEY CAN REQUIRE

SOMEONE TO ABIDE BY A LEASE YOU CAN'T -- YOU SHOULDN'T BE CAUSING A RUCKUS AND DOING SOMETHING THAT WILL DISTURB YOUR NEIGHBORS. THE BOUNDY -- THAT IS EXHIBITING BEHAVIOR AND IN DANGER OF IT.

JUST TO ADD ON THIS. IT CAN BE VERY HARD FOR THEM TO ADD JUST TO LIVING HOUSED. THINGS LIKE HOW DO YOU PROPERLY CLEAN YOUR BATHROOMS. YOU HAVEN'T HAD TO CLEAN A BATHROOM IN FIVE YEARS HOW DO YOU ACCESS YOUR MEDICAL CARE? THINGS LIKE THAT ARE COMPLICATED. HAVING STAFFING -- FOLKS LIKE CHRISTY'S TEAM. PEOPLE THAT ARE SORT OF -- HOUSED AND STABLE AGAIN IT SOUNDS SIMPLE BUT JUST PUTTING SOMEONE IN A PLACE AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME IS COMPLICATED.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE SEEING IS THE FOLKS WE ARE DEALING WITH NOW IS GETTING THROUGH THIS 4700. THE FOLKS HAVE A LOT MORE ISSUES. THEY HAVE BEEN HOMELESS FOR MUCH LONGER PERIOD OF TIME

THEY HAVE MORE SIGNIFICANT MENTAL HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN TREATED SO IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS. THERE'S -- REALLY SMALL AMOUNT OF WORKERS THAT DO THIS WORK. SO IT JUST -- IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS GIVE THEM A KEY. IT TAKES YEARS TO REHAB SOMEONE TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO IT'S NOT AN EASY PROCESS. JUST TO ADD ONTO THIS. THE LABOR POINT.

STORY TELLER AT HEART. I WAS A CASE MANAGER IN SAN FRANCISCO. TO NOBODY OWE POINT I MET SOMEONE OUTSIDE 15 YEARS. BEEN ON ON THE STREETS 15 YEARS. HE HAD BEEN IN THE SRO. I WAS A 24-YEAR-OLD CASE MANAGER HE NOTICE HE SLEEPING HE GOES OUT TO A BENCH EVERY NIGHT. I SAID WHY AND HE SAID IT'S TO QUIET ALL I HEARD IS NOISE FOR 20 YEARS. IT TOOK -- I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THREE WEEKS AND THEN HE EVENTUALLY STARTED STAYING IN HIS BED. HE HAD HIS KEY AND EVERYTHING. HE SAID IT'S TO QUIET. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. SO UNUSUAL. I GUESS TO THE POINT IT CAN TAKE A WHILE FOR SOMEONE TO GET TO THAT POINT.

OKAY. I HAVE A FEW SAVED UP. NUMBER ONE. I HAVE DONE THIS POINT IN TIME COUNT AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU I DON I DON'T BELIEVE THE NUMBERS I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DISCRETION. WHEN YOU HAVE A CLOSED VEHICLE. I HAVE BEEN LED AROUND BEFORE AND WE LOOKED FOR PEOPLE. ESPECIALLY SINCE ELDERBERRY WASN'T OPEN. HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THE FUNDING WHAT THE CITY COULD RECEIVE, HOW MUCH DO YOU REALLY WEIGH ON THIS AND HOW MUCH IS DISCRETION? THAT'S THE QUESTION ONE.

I CAN ALSO TAKE THAT ONE. THERE'S VERY LITTLE IMPACT ON IF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE LOWER NUMBERS. IF YOU HAVE HIGHER NUMBERS, HUDD WILL OFTEN CUT THE FUNDING DOWN. IF YOUR NUMBERS GO. THIS IS FOR THE COUNTY. THEY DON'T LOOK AT CITIES. THE HUDD AND THE CONSTITUENT STATE ONLY LOOK AT THE COC. IT WOULD BE THE OVERALL WHAT'S COMING IN TO THE COUNTY. AGAIN HAVE YOU DIFFERENT METRICS. IF YOU

HAVE TOO FEWER PEOPLE THEY WILL ADJUST YOUR NUMBERS DOWN WE HAVE A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR HUDD. IT'LL GO UP, DOWN A COUPLE YOU THIS DOLLARS. THE STATE IF YOU HAVE FEWER PEOPLE YOU GET A LESS, HUDD IF YOU HAVE FEWER PEOPLE YOU GET MORE. THEY AREN'T IN ALIGNMENT IF THE MONEY COME FROM THE COUNTY DOES THAT IMPACT US?
NO.

WHEN YOU SAY OUR MONEY THAT'S -- IT'S -- THAT'S SUBJECTIVE.

THE SUPPORT WE WILL GET.

IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE ACTIVELY RESPONDING. YOU NEED TO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS OR CITY STAFF OR FOLKS LIKE CHRISTY ADVOCATING FOR PROGRAMS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYONE THERE AT THE TABLE THEN THE FUNDS GENERALLY WILL NOT BE DISTRIBUTED TO WHATEVER CITY. IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEONE ACTIVELY WORKING FOR THESE THINGS IT'S NOT LIKE THE CITY SHARES THIS YEAR AND CLOVERDALE IS THAT. THERE HAVE TO BE PILOTS AND GRANTS THAT GO THROUGH THE FUNDING PROCESS.

BRINGS ME TO QUESTION TWO. YOU HAVE 22 PEOPLE EMPLOYED AND IF I JUST DO A SHEER POPULATION SPLIT

WE SHOULD GET ONE HALF BUT I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE BEEN CUT AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT FUNDING ANY LONGER TO HELP SUPPORT THE HOMELESS OUTREACH PERSON. ARE WE DOING SOMETHING WRONG? HOW DO WE PUT IN FOR THAT? WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH WEST COUNTY FAMILY SERVICES FOR MANY YEARS ON THIS FUNDING. MY UNDERSTANDING IN OUR RECENT BUDGET IS THAT WE HAVE GOT TO CUT AND I'M JUST TAKING OUR FAIR SHARE BY POPULATION.

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THAT'S NOT A COUNTY EMPLOYEE. THE EMPLOYEE YOU ARE UKRAINIAN ARE TALKING ABOUT WORKS FOR WCCOC. WE ARE IN TALKS WITH THE CITY THOUGH IN HOW WE CAN BE HELPFUL. THE MEASURE APPLIES. I WOULD HAVE SOMEONE APPLY OFF THE BAT. THIS THERE IS NO GUARANTEED WAY TO GET THAT FUNDING

THERE BUT THERE ARE MILK ANYTIMES OR TOOLS WITH IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS WHERE THOSE FUNDS CAN COULD BE USED FOR THAT SERVICE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY WITH AN EYE ON THE COC APPLYING.

WATCHING THESE THINGS IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO HAVE CITY CONVERSATIONS, CITY ELECTED AND

THE POSITION YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS A HALF FA AND A LOCAL NONPROFIT FROM THE CITY FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. IT'S NOT AIDANTY A COUNTY CONTRACT.

QUESTION THREE. WE HAVE HAD LETTER FROM THE PUBLIC OF WHY WE AREN'T INCLUDED IN THE CRISIS CALL CENTER LIST OF CITIES. IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE ITS CORRIDOR THING AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WEST COUNTY ISN'T COVERED. WE HAVE HAD LETTERS FROM OUR PUBLIC ASKING WHY WOULDN'T SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THERE'S THREE SYSTEMS THAT OPERATE TODAY. THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA WHICH FUNDS A LARGE PART OF ITS PROGRAM IN THE COUNTY FUNDS THE OTHER PART IS IN RESPONSE. THAT'S IN SANTA ROSA CITY LIMITS. THE

SAFE TEAM SERVES THE CITY OF ROANOKE PART AND SONOMA STATE UNIVERSITY ALL OF THOSE CITIES AND THE

UNIVERSITY CHIP IN FOR THE SERVICE WITH THE COUNTY THEY PARTNER AND SHARE IN THE EXPENSE OF THAT PROGRAM. THE WE DON'T SUPPORT -- THE COUNTY PROVIDES SERVICE TO EVERYWHERE ELSE. YOU ARE INCLUDED IN THE BIG RED BOX UP TOP. THAT'S WHERE THE 276 CALLS COME FROM. WE CAN MAKE THIS PUBLIC AND -- IF YOU CALL THIS 800 NUMBER YOU WILL HAVE A MOBILE CRISIS FROM THE COUNTY TEAM RESPONDING TO THE CITY.

OKAY. MY LAST IS THE COMMENT. I THINK YOU SAID IT TAKES EVERYBODY, COULD YOU TALK TO THE ACLU FOR US BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE BEING SUED. JUST TELL THEM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD AT THIS AND THAT DOESN'T HELP ANYONE. THANK YOU.

AND MY QUESTIONS.

I JUST THOUGHT OF ONE MORE THING. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS. I THINK WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH

YOUR FIRST QUESTION WAS IF YOU HAVE POTENTIALLY AN UNDER COUNT FOR A YEAR DOES THAT POTENTIALLY IMPACT YOUR FUNDING THAT GOES THROUGH SAY THE COC OR THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS? IT

SHOULDN'T THOUGH I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN LIKE I PARTICIPATED IN SOME COMMITTEE HEARINGS BECAUSE WE HAVE A HUGE UNDER COUNT ONE YEAR AND THE LOWER RUSSIAN RIVER. WE KNEW IT WAS THE UNDER COUNT. WE TALK TO SERVICE PROVIDERS. IT WAS CLEAR A LOT OF FOLKS HAD BEEN MISSED AND THAT INFORMATION WAS ACTUALLY TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT ONE OF OUR GOALS IS

TO LOOK AT THINGS AND HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THE SERVICES CAN POTENTIALLY SERVE THE FOLK THAT ARE JUST OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS AND -- SANTA ROSA HOW CAN WE LOOK AT THINGS? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. WE KIND OF BATTLED THAT IN THE LOWER RUSSIAN RIVER. WE GOT IT BACK ON TRACK.

I CAN REMEMBER WHEN I DID THE COUNT OUT BY THE FLEA MARKET AND THE ANTIQUE SOCIETY. THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE IN VEHICLES AND, YEAH, IT'S COUNTY BUT THEY ARE COMING IN.

THE ONLY OTHER THING I WILL ADD. I'M GLAD WE WENT ON THE TAN TANGENT. WE TRY TO HAVE THE GRANT REQUESTS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE REQUEST THAT WILL GO OUT IN TWO DAYS. IT'LL HAVE AN INDEPENDENT PANEL OF FOLK THAT DON'T HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT WILL RATE THE PROPOSALLESS. IT'S NOT LIKE I SIT HAVE AND PICK IT'S AN INDEPENDENT PANEL THAT IS -- THEY ARE EXPERTS IN THE FIELD. THEY RANK THE APPLICATIONS. SO, THOSE APPLICATIONS THEN GO TO THE BOARD OR THE COC BOARD FORA PROVAL. IT'S THE COUNTY IS NOT HAND PICKING OR PICKING AND CHOOSING. THE REASON I SAY THIS IS PEOPLE LOOK AT THE POINT IN TIME COUNT. THOSE FOLK S IF THEY HAVE THE APPLICATION FROM THE CITY AND THEY HAVE ONE FROM THE CITY OF LET'S -- THEY MAY WEIGH THEM DIFFERENTLY OR MAY SWAY THEIR OPINION. I THINK THAT

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YOU KNOW THEY ARE INDEPENDENT ON PURPOSE AND MAYBE DON'T KNOW THAT CONTEXT. THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

GREAT. THANK YOU. MY QUESTION AND THESE AREN'T SOMETHING THAT I JUST CAME UP. THIS IS ACTUALLY

TALKING TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT NONPROFIT PROVIDERS AND YOU DIDN'T LIST -- OR YOU DID MENTION THE FACT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW. SO, QUESTION TO YOU. YOU KIND OF MENTIONED THE FACT THAT MANY OF

OUR UNSHELTERED HAVE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE ISSUES TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S JUST LIKE COMPLEX CARE. I'M SURE THAT RESONATES, RIGHT? WOULD YOU SAY THAT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HARD TO --

TO HOUSE WHO HAVE SYSTEM INVOLVEMENTS WITH CPS, ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES, THE GUARDIAN SHIP,

JAILS, EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD YOU SAY THAT MOST OF THEM WOULD FALL UNDER THE CATEGORY OF COMPLEX CARE? HAVING COMPLEX CARE NEEDS?

I MEAN AS EXONLY DEFINED YES I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A LEGAL TERM THE POPULATION WE ARE SEVENNING TODAY IS FAIRLY COMPLEX. I THINK THAT -- AS A RULE OF THUMB YOU CAN KIND OF GROUP HOMELESS FOLKS IN TO -- FOLK THAT ARE UNHOUSED INTO THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT ARE -- VEHICLE

ACCIDENT, JOB LOSS, MEDICAL BILL, AWAY FROM HOMELESSNESS AND IT'S USUALLY SHORT TERM THEY NEED TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET, THEY CAN REBOUND IT IS FOLKS THAT JUST ARE GOING TO BE -- FOLKS ON SSI. FOLKS --

TRY TO FIND APARTMENT WITH VERY A LOT OF FOLKS LIVING IN CARS OR DOING THINGS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO AFFORD THE HIGH COST OF HOUSING IN CALIFORNIA. IT'S ANOTHER THIRD OF THE FOLKS.

A THIRD OF THE FOLKS, MAYBE MORE ARE IN THAT COMPLEX CARE CATEGORY. THEY HAVE MASSIVE MEDICAL ISSUES. YOU STABILIZE THE FIRST GROUP, GIVE THEM A LEG UP AND THEY CAN FIND THEIR PACT THE SECOND GROUP UNLESS YOU HAVE LOW INCOME HOUSING IT'S VERY HARD TO SERVE. WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE SENIORS, MEDICALLY FRAGILE FOLK THAT CAN'T FIND HOUSING BUT DON'T NEED SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. THIS COMPLICATED GROUP THAT HAS ALL OF THE OTHERISSUES ON TOP OF NOT HAVING INCOME. IT KIND OF FALLS IN TO ONE OF THE THREE CATEGORIES. YOU CAN TRIAGE THEM DIFFERENTLY.

TO TREAT THE GROUP THAT'S BEEN LABELED AS HAVING COMPLEX CARE NEEDS IS THE WHOLE PERSON MODELED THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES?

I THINK THAT'S THE MOST COMMON IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME, THE WHOLE PERSON CARE PILOT IS THE MOST COMMON MODEL THAT EXISTS TODAY. PROP1 IS PUSHING THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND HOMELESS SERVICES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA REALLY TOWARD THE WHOLE PERSON CARE MODEL. THAT IS LOOKING

AT SOMEONE THAT IS HOMELESS BY LOOKING AT THEIR HOUSING ISSUES, SUBSTANCE ISSUES, WRAP AROUND INTENSIVE SERVICES BASED ON THE PAST DECADE OF FULL PERSON CARE PILOT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE BEST OR NOT. THAT IS WHERE THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS PUSHING US INTO. I THINK THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN IS PUSHING US THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. WHO KNOWS WHERE WE WILL END UP OR WIN. THAT IS REALLY WHERE UNDER PROP1 WHERE THE BEHAVIORAL SERVICES ACT IS WE ARE MOVING. THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE COUNTY.

TOWARD THE DIRECTION OF PROVIDING SERVICES FOR IN -- IN THE -- IN THE FRAMEWORK OF HAVING AN OLD PERSON IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING?

I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON HOMELESS RESIDENT THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SUBSTANCE USE OR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AS KIND OF THEIR PRIMARY BARRIER.

YOU HAD SAID THAT'S FACT THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR CITIES TO START RECEIVING SOME TYPE OF SERVICES LIKE THE HEART TEAM. DICTATO HEAR THAT EARLIER IN YOUR PRESENTATION? I THINK THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. YOU KNOW WE HAVE AGAIN 22 WORKERS, YOU KNOW. WHERE DO I ASSIGN THEM? AGAIN THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY, WE HAVE HAD SIMILARREQUESTS IN SONOMA TO HAVE SOMEONE STATIONS OUT THERE. WE HAVE THE AMAZING NONPROFIT PROVIDERS. IS THERE A WAY THE COUNTY COULD BE MORE LINKED? THAT IS A POSSIBILITY IN THE NEW MODEL WE ARE CREATING. AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT HOW WE ARE USING THE VILLAGE, THAT IS GOING TO TAKE THE MANPOWER, WOMAN POWER, FTE'S AS WELL.

I'M OPENO THAT. OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WE ARE REIMAGINING WHAT HOMELESSNESS SERVICES WILL LOOK LIKE. OTHER THINGS -- I THINK THAT IS A LIKELY POSSIBILITY IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

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LIKELY BECAUSE YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO THAT EFFECT OF EXPLORING HAVING THE EMBEDDED TEAM PERSON OPERATING OUT OF OUR PLACE.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO EXPLORE THAT IF THE COUNCIL REQUESTED THE SUPERVISOR AND THE -- AND MY BOSSES SAID EXPLORE THAT.

TIME IS OF THE ISSUE, OF THE HE IS SENSE. LATER ON THERE HAS BEEN MOVEMENT FOR -- AS COUNCILMEMBER HINTON INDICATED THE FACT WE MAY AS A COUNSEL LATER TODAY PROVIDE THAT 40,000 SHOULD JUST BE WITH THE POISE AND HAVE NO TYPE OF INTERVENTION RELATED TO MENTAL HEALTH. DIRECT INTERVENTIONS. SO, FIGURING THAT OUT YOU WITH SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO RUN THIS BY THE BOARD.

YES. ANYTHING YOUR STAFF DOES HAS TO GO. I'M OPEN TO BEING CREATIVE. I HAD FRUITFUL BRAIN STORMING. ANYTHING THAT I COULD OFFER HAS TO BE APPROVED BY MY BOARD AND ELECTED.

IT WOULD JUST TAKE THE EMAIL TO MAKE THAT REQUEST THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A HEART PERSON EMBEDDED WITH YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YEAH. I THINK EITHER EMAIL FROM YOU, YOU KNOW OR FROM MARY WITH A REQUEST. WE NEED TO LOOK AT

OUR RESOURCES AND WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD LIKELY START AS A PILOT PROJECT TO DETERMINE WHAT THE USE IS. WE HAVE ALSO HAD SIMILAR CONVERSATIONS. YOU KNOW WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SO MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRIAL THOSE LOCATIONS. SEE

WHERE THE DEMAND IS, SEE HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS AND TRY TO COORDINATE REGIONAL NEEDS FOR WEST COUNTY. WE SEE A SEASONAL MOVEMENT. MAYBE IT'S A ROTATING POSITION THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT

THINGS WE COULD EXPLORE BUT I WOULD WANT TO TALK TO NOLAN ABOUT RESOURCES AND HAVE HIS OPINION. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO KICK START THE PROCESS.

I'M SURE MARY WILL SEND THAT EMAIL. SHE WORKS DAY AND NIGHT LATER TONIGHT SO, PERFECT. THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAD RECEIVED AND I WON'T BELABOR THIS. WE ARE TRYING TOWARD THE NIGHT AND

HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FROM ONE OF THE PROVIDER IS ONE

OF THE MAIN REASONS FOR THE HOMELESS SYSTEMS TO FAIL IS BECAUSE THERE IS NOT CONSISTENT USE OF TERMS, STANDARDS OR REGION WIDE PLANNING. SO, BASICALLY THE HE IS SENSE OF THIS IS THE FACT THAT

EVERYBODY SILOED MOVING FORWARD ARE YOU GOING TO TRY TO BE MORE CONSISTENT WITH TERMS AND ARE YOU -- IN YOUR Q&A YOU SAID YOU WOULD WORK WITH THE COC TO DEVELOP STANDARDS. IS THAT

SOMETHING YOU WILL MOVE TOWARD TO MAKE CLEAR WITH ALL OF THE PROVIDERS ABOUT BEING MORE CONSISTENT WITH TERMS AND THE -- THE ADOPTION OF STANDARDS JUST --.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY MY RECOMMENDATION AS A PROFESSIONAL IN THE FIELD THAT SITS IN A POSITION OF INFLUENCE. THE COC ALSO WOULD HAVE TO DIRECT WHY, OC STAFF OR WHOEVER TO DO THAT. I WOULD CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO SIT DOWN AT THAT TABLE AND BRING STAFF TO THAT. IT'S NOT JUST THE COUNTY BUT THIS IS EVERYBODY. IF THE COC ENFORCES STANDARDS, CREATES POLICIES, GUIDELINES AND THINGS OF THAT SORT IN A LOT OF CASES THE COC OR COUNTY DON'T HAVE TEETH. THE CITIES HAVE

JURISDICTIONS OVER DEVELOPMENT, FOR EXAMPLE SANTA ROSA HAS A GREAT GOOD NEIGHBOR DEVELOPMENT POLICY. IT HAS A SET OF ENFORCE ABOUT STANDARDS THAT PUBLIC SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECTS HAVE TO ABIDE BY IF THEY WANT TO BUILD IN SANTA ROS. IT'S A GREAT IDEA. EVERY CITY SHOULD DO THAT. I'M MORE

THAN HAPPY TO HELP DEVELOP BEST PRACTICES, IF CITIES DON'T USE THE TEETH OR MECHANISMS TO IMPLEMENT THEM THEY ARE USEFUL. THE COC WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. CITIES WOULD STILL HAVE TO IMPLEMENT AND CHANGE THEIR POLICIES. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO START.

ALEX I KNOW YOU ARE CHANGING YOUR OPINION. THIS IS POTENTIAL FOR AGENDA REVIEW. QUESTIONS

ABOUT THE HEART TEAM AND THE SOUL TEAM ON THE PDF ARE IDENTIFIED AS PROVIDING SERVICES OF BOTH MICKEY AND AELIZA. YOU CAN EXPLAIN?
JUST TWO SEPARATE FACILITIES WHERE WE HAVE STAFF PROVIDING SERVICES AT BOTH FACILITIES. MICKEY IS A

OLDER MOTEL IN DOWNTOWN SANTA ROSA THAT'S BEEN CONVERTED DURING THE PANDEMIC TO A HOME KEY

PROJECT AND THEN ELAZAA HE VILLAGE IS ESSENTIALLY I GUESS OAKMONT AND THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE FACILITIES. WE NOW HAVE A THIRD FACILITY, ARROWHEAD WHERE WE WILL HAVE STAFF. IT IS JUST SEVERAL SITES.

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REDRIFTING
WE ARE DRIFTING IN TO THE MIDNIGHT HOUR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE INFORMATION PRESENTATION FROM DIRECTOR SULLIVAN. IF

YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT I WILL COME INTO CHAMBERS AND THEN GO TO ZOOM IT IS A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT.

GREGORY.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND STAFF. I APPRECIATE THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM THE SUPERVISOR HOPKINS AND DIRECTOR SULLIVAN. AS THEY INDICATED I'M SORT OF THE ENERGIZER BUNNY FOR PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND DIRECTION TO POLICY AND PROGRAMS. FOUGHT ONLY AM I ON THE MEASURE O COMMITTEE APPOINTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BUT I'M JIM GORE'S REPRESENTATIVE TO THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH BOARD. THE MENTAL HEALTH BOARD. PROPOSITION 1 HAS GIVEN A HUGE EXPANSION MUCH IT'S AUTHORITY AND IT'S -- DIRECTION TO GIVE ADVICE TO THE WHOLE SYSTEM. WHAT THE VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA THROUGH THAT SAID WAS THE SYSTEM IS SILE, D, IT DOESN'T HAVE A REAL PLAN AND SO BEGINNING JUNE OR JULY 1st, 2026, A YEAR FROM NOW YOU BETTER PUT ONE TONIGHT. GIVE EVERY BIT OF THE COMMUNITY THE CHANCE TO SAY WHAT IS WRONG, FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND AND RECOMMEND IT TO THE DEPARTMENT. THAT IS OUR CHARGE. WE HAVE 15 MEMBERS ON THE COMMITTEE OR 15 SLOTS. WE HAVE TEN OF THEM FILLED.

THERE'S FIVE EMPTY SEATS. EVERYBODY BUT SUPERVISOR RABBIT HAS A VACANCY. SO IF YOU KNOW PEOPLE ALL

OVER THE COUNTY WHO WANT TO BE A PARTICIPANT, DIRECTLY IN ADVISING, ASSESSING, GETTING THINGS CHANGED. THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH BOARD IS THE PLACE TO BE.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 15 SECONDS.

OKAY. YOU CAN GO ON THE WEBSITE AND FIGURE OUT WHEN WE MEET. WE GENERALLY MEET ON THE THIRD TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH. WE WRAP -- WE TRY TO ROOM AROUND THE COUNTY. PLEASE COME TELL US WHAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO.

THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM LINDA, WILL YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF PLEASE?

YEAH. SURPRISED I'M UP FIRST. YEAH. I CAN SEE THE TIMER THANK YOU.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE HOMELESS HAVE A LOT OF RIGHTS. I MEAN RIGHT NOW I SEE ANOTHER RV PARKED NEXT TO PACIFIC MARKET AND IT SEEMED LIKE THEY HAD MORE RIGHTS THAN WE HAVE. THIS PERSON IS KEEPING IT NEAT. IT'S NOT LIKE SOME OF THE RV'S I HAVE SEEN WITH JUNK ALL ROUND THEM IT'S VERY NEAT SO MAYBE THEY HAVE MADE AN ARRANGEMENT WITH THE PARKING LOT, THE PEOPLE THAT OWN PACIFIC CENTER. I THINK THAT SOMETIMES I SEE THAT'S HOMELESS ALMOST SEEM LIKE THEY HAVE MORE RIGHTS. PEOPLE YELLING IN THE NIGHT. DO THE POLICE COME OUT? NO BECAUSE THEY AREN'T ENDANGERING ANYONE SO WHY WASTE AN OFFICER ON IT? WE HAVE A RIGHT TO QUESTION. WE HAVE ARIGHT TO FEEL SAFE. I REMEMBER A STORY ABOUT

SOMEONE I KNOW WHO WAS EXTREMELY POLITE NICE PERSON, TRYING TO RIDE HIS BIKE AND GETTING STUFF THROWN AT HIM. SO, I AM SO GLAD THEY CLEANED THAT UP BECAUSE IT WAS -- IT WAS ACTUALLY INTERFERING WITH COMMUTER BIKERS. I JUST SOMETIMES -- I DON'T MIND PEOPLE I SEE, YOU KNOW THAT ARE ON PARK BENCHES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME. WHAT'S BOTHERING ME IS WHEN YOU HEAR -- I

HEARD SOMEONE IN THE CHURCH PARKING LOT THAT I LIVE CLOSE TO YELLING, NOW I DIDN'T CALL THE POLICE BECAUSE I CAN -- I CAN USE EAR PLUGS BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEXT TO THE CHURCH? THINGS LIKE THAT? HOW MANY RIGHTS DO WE HAVE AS PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KEEP THE PEACE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT LY COME INTO CHAMBERS.

THANK YOU.

SO NOELANI SAW YOU ARE EXEMPT BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE JOB FOR THREE MONTHS. I WILL TRY TO SPEAK AS FAST AS YOU DID WHICH IS IMPRESSIVE. THE CITY IS IN A TERRIBLE STATE. THE CITY HAS FAR MORE HOME KEY PROJECTS, LOW INCOME HIGH DENSITY HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUR BANK, YOU NAME IT.

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MEETING EXPLAINING TO EVERYBODY HERE. I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. THIS IS THE REASON I GOT INVOLVED IN

LOCAL POLITICS BECAUSE OF THE -- THE TRAIL DISASTER WHICH LINDA HAPPEN HOPKINS WAS MOSTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR BACK THEN. I DON'T BELIEVE THE TIME IN TIME -- A LOT OF BUM DATA OUT THERE. WE HAVE

DESPITE THE -- YOU KNOW THE LIMITED AMOUNTS OF MONEY INVOLVED THAT YOU HAVE WE HAVE HAD MASSIVE FRAUD FROM DIMA. WE HAVE HAD BARBIE ROBINSON BARELY ESCAPING GOING TO RAIL IN TEXAS BECAUSE OF A FRIENDLY TEXAS DA. THIS NEEDS CLEANING UP REALLY FAST. I SAID AIRLINER THE EVENT BEFORE THE SUPERVISOR ARRIVED. THE CITY WE HAVE A BALANCE BETWEEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS BASICALLY TOURISM AND HOMELESS SERVICES. THE HOMELESS SERVICES WINNING SUBSTANTIALLY AND IT HAS

TO STOP WE HAVE THE HOTEL PEOPLE CLAIMING THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BUILD A HOTEL FOR TWO YEARS

BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AFFORD T I THINK THE REAL REASON IS BECAUSE THE CITY ISN'T ATTRACTIVE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE HOMELESS ACTIVITY. THE LADY WHO SPOKE EARLIER. THAT'S THE REALITY ON THE STREETS.

EXCUSE ME. YOU CAN, YOU CAN BLOW SMOKE ALL YOU WANT ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON AND HOW -- BUT THE

CITY IS INNUDATED WITH HOMELESS, PARTICULARLY IN THE SUMMER WE HAVE A LOT OF REPUTATION WE HAVE

A REPUTATION THAT ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO COME N
THAT'S TWO MINUTES. [CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING] NEXT I WILL GO TO ZOOM. KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF?
THANK YOU. YOUR PRESENTATION SHOWS 200 $10 MILLION FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE. THAT AMOUNTS TO 10 TIMES THE AMOUNT THAT IS SPENT ON PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS. I WANT TO CONFIRM LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IN FACT, WE HAVE THE MOST AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN DISTRICT 5. BURBANK, ORCHARD, HEART -- PARK VILLAGE, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY AND MORE. IN ADDITION, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS RADICALLY DIFFERENT THAN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT'S NOT BENEFICIAL TO CONFUSE THE TWO. WHEN YOU

TALK ABOUT DRUG USE AT ELDERBERRY COMMONS, FENTANYL AND METHAMPHETAMINE WERE ADDICTS LOOK

FOR FREE, PURCHASE AND TAKE DRUGS, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ON HOW WE CAN KEEP THE DRUGS LOCATED IN PEOPLE'S ROOMS FROM OUR LARGE STUDENT POPULATION. SEBASTOPOL IS A SMALL TOWN. IT'S CLEAR THAT DEALERS AND USERS ARE COMING TO ELDERBERRY COMMONS TO DO DRUGS WITH THEIR FRIENDS. WE HAVE A LARGE HIGH SCHOOL IN THE MIDI OF OUR TOWN WITH OVER 1600 TEENAGERS. HOW DO YOU SUGGEST WE KEEP STUDENTS SAFE? DRUG DEALERS ARE BUSINESS PEOPLE AND OF COURSE ARE LOOKING FOR NEW USERS.

HIGH SCHOOL KIDS ARE PRIME TARGETS. WHAT SOLUTIONS DO YOU HAVE FOR SEBASTOPOL WERE ELDERBERRY COMMONS AND ITS ACTIVE DRUG USERS ARE POSING REAL RISKS TO THE COMMUNITY. YOU'VE SAID THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT AND CARE. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN FUNDING GETS WORSE? WHAT HAPPENS TO INHABITANTS AND THE CITIES THAT HOST THEM WITH LESS FUNDING? IT SOUNDS LIKE ELDERBERRY COMMONS WILL GET WORSE, NOT BETTER IN THE FUTURE. YOU DESCRIBE HOW HARD IT IS TO REHABILITATE PEOPLE. WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE? THE COUNTY NEEDS TO PROVIDE CASEWORKERS AND SECURITY.

THAT IS TWO MINUTES.

THE SITES NEED TO BE SECURED AND MANAGED SO THEY DON'T CAUSE HARM.

THAT IS YOUR TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS.

HELLO. MY NAME IS BEVERLY. I'M A SEBASTOPOL RESIDENT. I WAS ALSO A VOLUNTEER FOR MOVING THE PEOPLE INTO HORIZON SHINE VILLAGE. I WANT TO MAKE STATEMENTS ABOUT THE PROBLEMS WITHIN THE SYSTEM WITHIN THE SYSTEM WITHIN THE SYSTEM. WHAT I EXPERIENCED WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, BUT IT DID NOT TURN OUT THAT WAY. WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT THEY HIRED A MANAGER WHO HAD A 17 YEAR RECORD OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. MYSELF AND OTHERS WHO WERE EMPLOYED AT SAVES, I STARTED OUT AS A VOLUNTEER AND BECAME EMPLOYED. THE FIRST BATCH OF PEOPLE THEY HIRED COULD NOT DEAL WITH THE ISSUES. IT IS VERY COMPLICATED. IT IS EVERYTHING THESE GENTLEMEN HAVE SAID. NOBODY

ADDRESSED THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE STAFFING PROBLEMS AND THE OTHER ISSUES THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED. THE RULES THAT NEEDED TO BE PUT IN PLACE. I WENT TO THE COURTHOUSE AND I COVERED THE MAN THEY PUT TO RUN THE VILLAGE HAD A 17 YEAR RECORD. THE WOMAN HE HIRED, SHE LASTED ABOUT Page | 50
THREE MONTHS AND SHE LEFT THE VILLAGE WITH ONE OF THE RESIDENTS. IT GOES ON AND ON LIKE THIS. NO OVERSIGHT. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR OVERSIGHT. THERE WERE A LOT OF US VOLUNTEERS WHO NOBODY WOULD LISTEN TO. WE WERE NOT GIVEN CREDIBILITY. WE KNEW THIS WAS HAPPENING AND WE CARED VERY MUCH ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN THE VILLAGE.

YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS.

ONE OF THEM HAS CANCER AND OTHERS STILL DON'T HAVE HELP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL GO TO ZOOM. ROBERT, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF? ROBERT, CAN YOU UNMUTE.

SORRY.

THAT IS OKAY. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

SUPERVISOR HOPKINS MADE A COMMENT THAT AT LEAST THE HOMELESS ARE NOT VISIBLE IN THE CITY. I WANT TO TAKE EXCEPTION AND REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM. ABOUT A MONTH AGO I LEFT CITY HALL AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING. MORE AND MORE HOMELESS PEOPLE WERE STORING THEIR STUFF BY THE LIBRARY. THERE WAS A HOMELESS PERSON JUST WAKING UP ON THE STREET SIDE OF THE LIBRARY, GETTING IN

MY CAR IN THE PARKING LOT THERE WAS SOMEBODY COMING OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THE SENIOR CENTER THAT WAS HOMELESS. THERE'S NOW MORE HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THE SQUARE THAN THERE ARE RESIDENTS.

THERE'S MOTORHOMES AND CAMPS AT SAFEWAY, AT THE RITE AID IN LAGUNA WE HAD A FIRE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT WAS PROBABLY HOMELESS RELATED. A PHOTO OF A WOMAN SLEEPING IN THE DOOR AT RITE AID. IT HAS NOT EVEN GONE COLD YET. THE BOOT MAKER TOLD US AT THE LAST MEETING OR MAYBE BEFORE THAT THAT HE HAS TO CLEAN UP WASTE AND NEEDLES IN FRONT OF HIS STORE MOST MORNINGS. IF YOU LOOK

UNDERNEATH THE TREES WHEN YOU DRIVE BY AND SEE THE CARS, THOSE ARE NOT EMPLOYEES PARKING AWAY FROM THE STORE. THEY ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN THEIR CARS. WHEN I WENT BY THERE, THE DRUG DEALER THAT USED TO WORK DOWN ON MOORE STREET IS WORKING THOSE CARS. WE HAVE A PROBLEM. WE HAVE AN ISSUE.

SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. THE OTHER THOUGHT TO TAKE AWAY IS YOU HAVE TO THINK OF SEBASTOPOL AS A TWO MY A HOLE IN THE CENTER OF THIS MASSIVE COUNTY EFFORT TO DEAL WITH THE HOMELESS. WE HAVE NONE OF THOSE RESOURCES IS. WE HAVE NO PEOPLE. THE POINT PEOPLE ARE POLICE OFFICERS. THIS IS WRONG. HOPEFULLY YOU CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT ACROSS THE BORDER OCCASIONALLY AND DEAL WITH THE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT ARE IN SEBASTOPOL.

THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

I THINK WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THE HOMELESS FOLKS ARE PEOPLE. I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN WE ARE FEELING AFRAID IT IS HARD TO FEEL LIKE YOU CAN REACH OUT AND BE SUPPORTIVE. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S LOTS OF PROBLEMS HERE IN SEBASTOPOL. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE AND I'VE SEEN THIS WORKING AT ST. VINCENT DePAUL AND SANTA ROSA, IS THERE IS A NEED FOR GOOD TRAUMA INFORMED TRAINING FOR ANYBODY WORKING IN THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY. YOU LOOK AT DRUG ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. SO MUCH OF THAT IS RELATED TO TRAUMA. I THINK IF THERE IS MONEY TO PUT TOWARDS

TRAUMA INFORMED TRAINING, I THINK ALL OF THE SITES THAT ARE WORKING WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ON HOUSED NEED MORE OF THAT TRAINING. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL GO TO ZOOM. MISTY, COULD YOU UNMUTE. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER? MISTY, CAN YOU UNMUTE PLEASE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I CAN HEAR YOU. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
SORRY. I DON'T SEE THE TIMER.

THAT'S OKAY. I WILL JUMP IN WHEN YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS LEFT.

THANK YOU. EVERYBODY IS GETTING OFF ON A TANGENT ABOUT THE HOMELESS AND WHAT SHOULD WE DO WITH THEM. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I FIND MAYOR ZOLLMAN'S COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE AND A LITTLE BIT INFLAMMATORY TO MR. SULLIVAN. I FIND HIM ALSO VERY NITPICKY AND OFF- Page | 51
TOPIC. YOU ARE BOSSING YOUR STAFF AROUND. I KNOW YOU ARE TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO SEND AN EMAIL AND ASKING THESE HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE AND IMMATURE QUESTIONS. IT'S NOT A GOOD LOOK. I REALIZE YOU WERE A PUBLIC DEFENDER IN SAN FRANCISCO. YOU USE YOUR FANCY LAWYER LINGO, BUT NOBODY IS FOLLOWING YOU IS THAT. I THINK YOU SHOULD PROBABLY TRY TO FIGURE OUT -- I THINK MY TIME IS UP ACTUALLY.

YOU HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER MINUTE.

OKAY. SORRY. ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW THAT. I HAVE SEEN YOU AT THE COC BOARD MEETINGS. YOU KNEW FULL WELL THE ANSWERS TO ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS BUT YOU CHOSE TO MAKE A SPECTACLE AT THIS MEETING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. I WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE, BACK TO ZOOM. ERICA, CAN YOU UNMUTE? I AM TRYING.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CANNOT BUT YOU CAN LET ME KNOW.

MY NAME IS ERICA. I WORK IN THE CROSS SECTOR OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND HOMELESS SERVICES MY WHOLE CAREER ACROSS MULTIPLE SYSTEMS. I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M REALLY HEARTENED BY THE PRESENTATION. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. I'M EXCITED TO HAVE NOLAN ON THE TEAM. I APPRECIATE THE DEPTH OF COMMUNICATION AROUND WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING AND WHERE THE COUNTY HOPES TO GO. I DO THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT PAST WORK WE HAVE DONE IN SONOMA COUNTY AND HOW WE'VE DONE SOME PRETTY AMAZING WORK. I WAS PART OF THE FIRST HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM AT THE CITY COUNTY CONTRACT CALLED THE HOST TEAM. I THINK WE WERE DOING SOME PRETTY REVOLUTIONARY, INNOVATIVE WORK. I WAS PART OF THE COMMUNITY INTERVENTION PROGRAM WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS ROOM. EMBEDDED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH WORKERS

IN CITIES AND SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY TO GET ACCESS TO CARE SO TO SUPPORT THAT COMPLEX CARE

THE MAYOR WAS SPEAKING TO PICK IF WE WORK TOGETHER AS THIS PRESENTATION LAID OUT, WE HAVE THE

OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE FUNDING TO THE BEST CAPACITY AND BE GOOD STEWARDS AS PUBLIC SERVANTS TO SUPPORT ACCESS TO CARE FOR ALL OF THE COMMUNITY. UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SOCIAL SERVICES

HOMELESS SERVICES BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
YOU HAVE ABOUT 25 SECOND.'S THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF FUNDING THAT WORKING TOGETHER IN CITY AND COUNTY RELATIONSHIPS IS CRITICAL TO THE HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY. I WANT TO SAY THAT I AM REALLY HOPEFUL THIS EVENING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS IF THERE IS ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS. I WILL GO BACK TO ZOOM.

GEORGE IS CAN YOU UNMUTE. GO AHEAD.

I HAVE A QUESTION. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE COUNTY PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ELDERBERRY COMMENTS. I JUST WONDERED, CONSIDERING PRESENT DAY AND THE FUTURE, DOES THE COUNTY BEAR ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ONGOING OPERATION? IF SO, I WOULD APPRECIATE IF HE COULD ENUMERATE THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR US THAT IS ALL. THANK YOU.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS. IF THERE IS ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE I WILL GO BACK TO ZOOM. MARY, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF PLEASE. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES.

GREAT. GO AHEAD PLEASE.

I AM WONDERING WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE NEW HOME KEY PROJECT. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT HAVE BECOME OBSOLETE. I DO NOT -- MAYBE NOLAN COULD TALK TO THAT. STEPHEN, AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 2025 GRANTS FOR MEASURE O IT SEEMS LIKE LINDA STARTED TO SAY MAYBE SEBASTOPOL COULD GET SOME OF THAT, BUT THEN I HOPE YOU HEARD THAT SHE WAS BACKPEDALING ON THAT A LOT. IT CAME ALL OF A SUDDEN FROM SEBASTOPOL TO THE COUNTY AND ALL OF THAT. THAT IS MY COMMENT. THANK YOU.

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NEXT I WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

SEEING NONE I WILL GO BACK TO ZOOM. IF ANYONE ON ZOOM WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU. IT WAS INFORMATIONAL SO WE CAN RECEIVE AND FILE. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR COMING TOGETHER. WE WILL DEFINITELY DO SOME FOLLOW-UPS AND INVITE YOU BACK FOR A BRIEFING AND A FEW OTHER OFFERS HE MADE IN REFERENCE TO THE ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN WE ARE BURNING THE MIDNIGHT OIL I THINK WE WILL MOVE ALONG. WE HAVE ALREADY DONE REGULAR CALENDAR ITEM 11. NOW WE ARE MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12 WHICH IS THE REVIEW OF THE

STATE OF CALIFORNIA INVITATION TO APPLY FOR CULTURAL DESIGNATION AND REQUEST FOR STAFF TO PREPARE AND SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. THIS IS GRANTED THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA ARTS COUNCIL TO A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF CITIES IN THE STATE. SELECTION OF THE CITY FOR THE DESIGNATION WOULD INCLUDE STATE

FUNDING, MARKETING VIA THE STATE TOURISM WEBSITE AND FUNDING TO SUPPORT TOURISM AND PUBLIC ART PROGRAMMING. THE RESPONSIBLE DEPARTMENT IS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECT YOUR. FISCAL IMPACT -- THERE IS NO FISCAL IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ITEM OR THE GRANT APPLICATION. I WILL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO TAKE THINGS FROM THERE.

I WILL MAKE THIS SHORT AND SWEET BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS. THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR THE CALIFORNIA ARTS COUNCIL 20/25 CULTURAL ARTS PROGRAM. THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE PLANNING CONSULTANT TO PREPARE THE GRANT. THERE IS A COUPLE NAMES FOR DISTRICTS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT. THE COUNCIL WILL NEED TO REVIEW THOSE TONIGHT. WE WOULD NEED -- IT'S A $10,000 GRANT THAT IS AVAILABLE. THERE IS MATCHING. IF WE DID RECEIVE IT WE WOULD COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL. IT IS DEVELOPING A COURT DISTRICT OF ARTS AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO LUKE IT WAS THE PLANNING CONSULTANT WHO HAS DONE THIS WITH THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE.

CAN YOU MAKE HIM COHOST PLEASE? YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND SHARE YOUR SCREEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING. IT IS VERY GOOD TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS ITEM THE APPLICATION FOR THE CALIFORNIA CULTURAL DISTRICT GRANT. I AM SERVING IN AN INTERIM CAPACITY FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. REALLY JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION AND OVERVIEW OF THE CONTEXT OF THE GRANT AND HOW WE GOT HERE. THE APPLICATION OPENED MAY 2025 AT WHICH TIME IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD FOR AN INITIAL MEETING ON JUNE 10. IT RETURNS TO THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE FOR TWO ADDITIONAL SESSIONS ON JULY 8 AND 22nd TO GO MORE IN DEPTH ON THE BRANDING FOR THE PROPOSED CULTURAL

DISTRICT, TO DEFINE THE GEOGRAPHY ON WHICH THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE NARROW DOWN AROUND THE TOWN SQUARE. THAN PROVIDING A CULTURAL ASSET INVENTORY OF EXISTING ARTS AND CULTURAL RESOURCES. THE FULL DRAFT APPLICATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR REVIEW. IT IS DUE TWO DAYS FROM NOW ON THE SEVENTH. SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT FORWARD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. THAT INCLUDES TWO SUGGESTED NAMES FOR THE DISTRICT. BRANDING IDENTITY IS THE TOWN COURT ARTS AND CULTURE DISTRICT WITH A BACKUP OPTION OF ARTS AND HERITAGE. THESE ARE ONCE AGAIN RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE. IT IS ULTIMATELY AT THE BEHEST OF THE COUNCIL IF THERE ARE AMENDMENTS FOR MOVING FORWARD THE APPLICATION. ADDITIONS TO THE LIST OF CULTURAL ASSET OR ANY OTHER REVISIONS THAT CAN BE MADE PRIOR TO SUBMITTAL. OR THE COUNCIL CAN DECLINE TO RECOMMEND THE CITY MOVE FORWARD. WITH THAT I AM OPEN FOR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION LIKE WHAT THE NAME IS GOING TO BE. I DO NOT REALLY HAVE AN OPINION. DOES THAT MATTER?
WE DO HAVE TO PROVIDE BRANDING. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. IT CAN ALSO BE AN ALTERNATIVE SELECTION.

THANK YOU.

I NOTED IN THE PACKET THERE WERE TWO LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATIONS. I KNOW THAT THE PACK HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS AND THEY WERE GOING TO GO A LOT MORE THAN TWO. ARE THERE MORE LETTERS TODAY? Page | 53
AS OF THE TIMING OF THE MEETING WE HAVE TWO LETTERS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FROM THE CHAIR.

MORE LETTERS WITH SUPPORT THE APPLICATION. WE HAVE TIME TO RECEIVE MORE LETTERS GOING INTO THE

SUBMITTAL OF THE APPLICATION BUT UNLESS ANY ADDITIONAL LETTERS HAVE COME IN THOSE ARE THE ONES THEY HAVE RECEIVED.

THANK YOU. LOOKING TO THE RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? BACK TO THE LEFT BEFORE WE GOT A PUBLIC COMMENT?
I HAVE ANOTHER ONE. ON PAGE 11 OF 12 THE QUESTION IS ASKING FOR NAMES AND ROLES ET CETERA. IT SAYS

IDENTIFY THE PERSONNEL WHO WILL BE DEDICATED FULL OR PART-TIME TO DISTRICT OPERATIONS AND PROVIDE THE NAME, AFFILIATION, EXPERIENCE, BUT THERE ARE NO NAMES. I AM WONDERING IF THAT CAN BE CORRECTED.

WE CAN CERTAINLY AMENDED TO INCLUDE THE CITY MANAGER AND HIGHLIGHT HER EXPERIENCE WITH THE APPLICATION AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

I WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE SUBMITTAL OF THE CULTURAL ARTS DISTRICT GRANT TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT I WILL COME TO CHAMBERS FIRST. SEEING NONE, I WILL GO TO ZOOM. JEFF, CAN YOU UNMUTE. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER? I SURE DO.'S EMAC GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

JEFF TUCKER, CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS AND

APPRECIATE MARY, LUKE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE ON THE APPLICATION. GRANTS UP TO $10,000 OVER TWO YEARS LIKE GETTING 50% OFF. OFFICIAL STATE CERTIFICATION. TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND ACCESS TO MARKETING AND BRANDING RESOURCES. THIS

COULD HELP TO OFFSET BUDGET CHALLENGES AND ASSIST TO MEET SOME GOALS FOR PUBLIC ART WITHIN THE DISTRICT RADIUS. IT COULD ALSO POSSIBLY HELP DEFRAY COSTS OF THE NORTH ENTRY SCULPTURE. THE PACT REALLY WORKED HARD ON THIS. WE URGE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION TONIGHT TO MEET THE THURSDAY DEADLINE. WE ALSO RECOMMEND THE BRANDING NAME'S UPTOWN CORE SEBASTOPOL ARTS AND CULTURE DISTRICT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS. IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT?
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT SIGN. I LOVE THAT. IT IS SO GOOD.

NEXT I WILL GO BACK TO ZOOM. WITH ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.

I AM UNMUTE IT.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I AM A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED WHY FOR LEAF IS PRESENTING THIS. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. DO WE HAVE ANY PEOPLE EMPLOYED IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OR IS THE ENTIRE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CONTRACTED TO FOR LEAF. MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE STAFFING IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION, WHAT EXACTLY DOES THE GRANT DO. I AM UNCLEAR ON THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT. ALSO, WHAT WOULD BE THE STAFF TIME INVOLVED IN ADMINISTERING THE GRANT? THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE ALREADY TAKES UP RESOURCES FROM CITY STAFF. I AM JUST WONDERING. $10,000 OVER TWO YEARS IS ONLY $5000 A YEAR WHICH IS PRETTY MINIMAL. I AM WONDERING HOW THAT BALANCES OUT WITH STAFF TIME AND ACTUALLY ADMINISTERING THE GRANT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS. SEEING NONE I WILL GO BACK TO ZOOM IF THERE IS ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

THANK YOU. BRINGING IT BACK.

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THANK YOU. I LEARNED ABOUT THIS POSSIBILITY FROM ME PROBABLY A MONTH OR SO AGO OR A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. I GOT REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND STARTED TO RESEARCH THE HISTORY OF SEBASTOPOL AND STARTED THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT SEBASTOPOL. I DID THIS SPREADSHEET OF ALL THESE RESTAURANTS. FOR ME, AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF RESTAURANTS FOR A CITY OUR SIZE. I AM SURPRISED THAT THE FOOD PART WAS LEFT OUT OF THIS. I THINK THE FOOD OPTIONS HERE -- WE ARE A FOOD HAVEN, IN MY OPINION. ALSO, THERE ARE A LOT OF CULTURAL ARTS AND A LOT OF CULTURE. THE CITY HAD TWO CHINATOWN'S IN THIS TINY LITTLE SPACE. THEY BOTH HAVE THEIR OWN -- I BELIEVE IT IS A RELIGIOUS PLACE.

AND THEN, OF COURSE THE NATIVE PEOPLE AND ALL OF THAT. THE CITY IS SO RICH IN CULTURE AND THE ARTS.

YOU CAN GO DOWNTOWN AND THERE IS ARE EVERYWHERE FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS. I KNOW THAT AWS GROUP WHICH I'M A MEMBER, WE HAVE AT LEAST SEVEN DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE YOU CAN SEE ART.

YOU CAN SEE THE LIBRARY. WHEN YOU GO TO THE SENIOR CENTER THEY HAVE ART SHOWS. THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS IS A FABULOUS PLACE. AND ASIDE IS THAT I THINK THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS IS ALSO APPLYING FOR THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE MEETING WENT WITH THEM TO SEE IF THERE CAN BE SOME COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND THE CITY ON THIS. I DO NOT LIKE SAID TOWN. TO ME IT DOES NOT REPRESENT SEBASTOPOL. SEBASTOPOL GOT ITS NAME FROM A FIGHT THAT WAS A STANDOFF FOR SOMEBODY WAS IN A STORE. IT WOULD NOT COME OUT. ANYWAY SEBASTOPOL WON. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE CALLING IT SEBTOWN. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE FOOD PART EXCEPT THAT IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION. THERE ARE SOME PARTS OF THE APPLICATION, I THINK PORCH FEST IS LISTED AS A FESTIVAL. THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE IT SAYS IT IS LOCATED ON HIGH STREET. I AM WONDERING ABOUT INCLUDING BURBANK FARM. I KNOW THAT IS NOT WITHIN THE CENTER CORE. I HAD AN ALTERNATE

SUGGESTION OF SEBASTOPOL ARTS DISTRICT, A WALKABLE VIBRANT ARTS CULTURE AND FOOD HAVEN AT THE GATEWAY TO THE SONOMA COAST. THAT IS BASED ON THE OTHER DESIGNATED WINNERS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE CULTURAL DISTRICT. A THRIVING AND DYNAMIC CULTURAL CENTER LOCATED IN CALIFORNIA'S HIGH DESERT.

THERE IS EXAMPLES FROM ABOUT 10 OF THESE BUT THAT'S WHERE I CAME UP WITH A WALKABLE VIBRANT ARTS CULTURE AND FOOD HAVEN. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

I LOVE THAT. I WOULD VOTE FOR THAT. I'M ALSO NOT COMFORTABLE WITH SEBTOWN. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE

STICKERS THAT SAY THAT AND STUFF, SO I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST SOMETHING FROM THE STAFF REPORTS WIND COOL WITH THAT.

I WOULD TOTALLY SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU TO SANDY FOR DOING THE RESEARCH AND THE ART. LET'S NOT FORGET THE BEAUTIFUL MURAL OUTSIDE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE. 100% THANK YOU FOR DOING THE RESEARCH AND THE SUGGESTION. IF YOU WANT TO MOVE THAT LISA PROBABLY BEAT ME TO THE SECOND. DID WE DO PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DID PICK IT WAS GETTING LATE.

WE DID.

WE CAN MAKE A MOTION.

MY UNDERSTANDING THEY ARE NOT SUBMITTING IT. I WILL HAVE LUKE ADDRESS IT. CAN YOU GIVE A BRIEF RECAP ON YOUR MEETING TODAY.

THAT'S CORRECT. THEY WERE CONSIDERING PURSUING AN APPLICATION BUT THEY ARE NOT PURSUING A COMPETING APPLICATION NOW THAT THEY KNOW THE CITY IS GOING FOR IT. [ INAUDIBLE ] IS IT POSSIBLE TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE RESTAURANTS IN THAT AREA? ABSOLUTELY. THAT WAS JUST AN OVERSIGHT ON STAFF FOR IT. WE CAN ADD THAT LIST. WE WILL CROSSREFERENCE TO MAKE SURE ANY OF THE ASSETS ARE LISTED. I WILL ALSO CLARIFY AS WELL THAT PORCH FEST

AND BURBANK FARM TO FALL WITHIN THE RADIUS, THAT IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO REMOVE THEM THAT IS AT COUNCIL'S BEHEST.

I WILL MOVE THAT THE NAME OF THE SEBASTOPOL CULTURAL ARTS DISTRICT TOOK A WALKABLE VIBRANT ARTS CULTURE AND FOOD HAVEN AT THE GATEWAY TO THE SONOMA COAST. I WILL ASK THAT PORCH FEST BE REMOVED AND TO ADD NAMES AND ROLES PAGE 11 AND 12. AND SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION.

SECOND.

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CAN I JUST REPEAT AND MAKE SURE I HAVE IT CORRECT. THE NAME WILL BE THE SEBASTOPOL CULTURAL ARTS DISTRICT. A WALKABLE, VIBRANT ARTS CULTURE AND FOOD HAVEN AT THE GATEWAY TO THE SONOMA COAST? JUST TO CLARIFY SEBASTOPOL CULTURAL ARTS DISTRICT.

THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. A WALKABLE VIBRANT ARTS, CULTURE AND FOOD HAVEN. REMOVAL OF WHICH FEST, ADDITION OF BURBANK FARMS IF IT IS WITHIN THE 3000 FOOT RADIUS TO INCLUDE THE ROLES AND NAMES ON PAGE 11 AND 12 AND CLUED RESTAURANTS. MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER MAURER AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HINTON. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER
YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

YES.

COUNCILMEMBER MAURER .

YES.

MAYOR ZOLLMAN.

YES.

MOTION PASSES.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE FOR THEIR EFFORTS ON THIS AS WELL AND LUKE AND MARY THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. AGAIN, BURNING THE MIDNIGHT OIL WE ARE GETTING TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13 CONSIDERATION OF HOMELESS OUTREACH ASK DISCUSSED AT THE JULY 1 MEETING. STOP WAS DIRECTED TO WORK MINUS 3350. THE FISCAL IMPACT, THERE'S NO FISCAL IMPACT WITH APPROVAL OF THE ITEM. IT HAS BEEN BUDGETED IN THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET FOR $400,000 FOR HOMELESS OUTREACH SERVICES. I'M TURNING THIS OVER TO THE POLICE CHIEF.

GOOD EVENING. TO SUMMARIZE THE STAFF REPORT BASICALLY BRINGING BACK THE SAME ORDINANCE FROM LAST MONTH WITH HIM SMALL ALTERATIONS. AS IS WIDELY KNOWN THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING TO PROVIDE OUTREACH SERVICES TO THE UN-HOUSED POPULATION SINCE 2021. AS THE SITUATION EVOLVED AND CHANGED

WITH RESPECT TO THE ON HOUSE POPULATION OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND THE NUMBER OF ON HOUSE

PERSON SEEMINGLY INCREASED, IT WAS SUGGESTED WE CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME THING WHILE EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT. A DIFFERENT APPROACH MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE MORE DETAILED

ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE CITIZENS WITH RESPECT TO THE PUBLIC FUNDS THAT ARE ROUTED THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THERE WAS A SUGGESTION THAT THERE BE AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY

WITH THE REPORTING MECHANISMS THAT WE HAVE FOR DIFFERENT REPORTS TO PROVIDE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY. THE DIFFERENT POLICING PROFESSION OUTREACH MODEL SUGGESTED IN THE STAFF

REPORT WAS TO APPROACH HOMELESS OUTREACH THROUGH ADDITIONAL AND SPECIFIC TRAINING FOR POLICE

OFFICERS BUILDING ON THE ALREADY ESTABLISHED PARTNERSHIPS THAT EXIST WITH THE AND HOUSE POPULATION. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT IS OUTREACH RELATED. JUST AS NO

OTHER ORGANIZATION CAN DO ALL THINGS ON THEIR END EITHER, AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE CANNOT DO AS POLICE IS THE COORDINATED ENTRY SIDE OF OUTREACH. WE WOULD NEED TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH

PARTNERS LIKE W CCS OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY THAT HAVE THE ACCESS AND SKILL SET FOR TASKS LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT WORKING IN PARTNERSHIPS ARE ALL ABOUT. WHAT WE CAN OFFER IS THAT WE WORK 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK ON HOLIDAYS, RAIN OR SHINE, WE ARE ALSO WORKING FOR THE CITIZENS OF SEBASTOPOL WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE CITY. OUR PARTNERS UNFORTUNATELY BEING FACED

AS WE HEARD TONIGHT FROM THE COUNTY AS WELL WITH REDUCTIONS OR WITHDRAW OF FUNDING SOURCES LIMITING WHAT SERVICES THEY CAN OFFER. WITH THE CITY FUNDING THEY CAN OFFER .45% OF AN EMPLOYEE.

ONLY A FRACTION OF THAT TIME CAN BE SPENT IN CONTACT WITH THE AND HOUSED. THEY CAN CERTAINLY ELABORATE ON THAT. WITH FUNDING, FURTHER FUNDING FROM THE CITY COULD POTENTIALLY OFFER MORE TO THE OUTREACH SERVICE PHYSICIAN. THIS MAYBE FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER TONIGHT. REGARDLESS OF

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OUR PARTNERS TO ACHIEVE THE BEST RESULT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE CITIZENS OF SEBASTOPOL WHICH FOR ME AS THE CITY POLICE CHIEF IS THE BOTTOM LINE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH W CCS FOR THE LAST

COUPLE MONTHS TO BRING THIS TO THE COUNCIL PROVIDING AS MUCH DETAIL AND OPTIONS AS POSSIBLE FOR

YOU TO CONSIDER PICK UP THE CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THE EXISTING OUTREACH

PROGRAM WE WILL WORK ALONGSIDE THEM AND FURTHER FOSTER THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE ESTABLISHED AND DO OUR BEST TO ASSIST IN THE WORK THEY PROVIDE TO THE CITY. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. I THINK THAT WE WILL HEAR FROM W CCS.

THIS LAST MONTH WE HAVE WORKED TOGETHER. MY NAME IS KRISTI, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WITH WEST COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICES.

I'M STILL HAVING TROUBLE. ARE WE FULL ON THE MIC? THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

OKAY. IN THE LAST MONTH WE HAVE WORKED TOGETHER TO REFINE A SCOPE OF WORK, A DELIVERABLE THAT WE COULD MEET WITHIN 18 HOURS. WE HAVE STILL QUITE A FEW DELIVERABLES. I HAVE SHARED IN THE AGENDA ITEM DOCUMENTS. I DID A ROUGH ALLOCATION OF TIME OF WHERE THOSE 18 HOURS WOULD GO WITH OUTREACH. I THINK EVEN WITH THE REDUCTION IN SERVICES NOLAN AND MICHAEL DID A FANTASTIC JOB PRESENTING VERY DENSE MATERIAL INFORMATION. WE WILL BE APPLYING FOR THE NOVA IN TWO DAYS SO THAT IS EXCITING, BUT WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS HOW TO SPEND THIS $40,000. I HAVE PROVIDED INFORMATION ON WHAT THAT WOULD PROVIDE WITH THE OUTREACH WITH 18 HOURS. I DO NOT HAVE CERTAINTY WE WILL APPLY. I DO NOT HAVE CERTAINTY THAT IT WILL BE AWARDED. I HOPE SO, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE COULD DO.

I APPRECIATE THAT. QUESTIONS? OR I CAN JUMP IN WITH MINE. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR ONGOING WORK WITH THE CHIEF AND THE STAFF AND EVERYONE ELSE. I'M GLAD YOU DID REFERENCE WHAT MULLEN SENT ME

BECAUSE THAT WAS PROBABLY A LITTLE HEAVY, BUT I WANTED TO FIND OUT FROM SUPERVISOR HOPKINS WHAT THE STEPS WOULD BE TO HAVE AN EMBEDDED PERSON. OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE SHERIFF OUT THERE IN THE WEST COUNTY PICK IT SOUNDED LIKE IT'S POTENTIAL. I AM SURE THAT MARY WILL SEND THE EMAIL. WE DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE HOW THAT WILL PLAY OUT, BUT WITH YOU, AND IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE YOU

ARE WORRIED THAT IF YOU DO NOT GET THE MONEY FROM THE COUNTY LIKE WHAT YOU ARE OFFERING HERE

WITH THE LIMITED SCOPE, FOR ME AND WHAT YOU HAD SAID LAST TIME BUT I'M MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT AS THE POLICE CHIEF JUST ACKNOWLEDGED, THEY 100% CANNOT. I SPENT 2 1/2 HOURS WITH THE NONPROFIT THAT DOES THE COORDINATED ENTRY. WHAT HE HAD TOLD ME AND CONFIRMED WITH MARY

IS THE FACT THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATABASE FOR MAYBE LOTS OF REASONS. SO I AM WONDERING FROM YOU WHETHER YOU WOULD BE OKAY IF WE JUST CONTINUE WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR US. I WILL ALSO DEFER TO MARY AND ALEX ON A MONTHLY BASIS UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE THE NOVA IS. I JUST DON'T WANT OUR PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM TO FALL OUT.

THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE GREAT. AGAIN, AS I SAID BEFORE HAVING X NUMBER OF IN HOUSTON THEN HAVING THEM FALL OUT OF THE SYSTEM, THEY WILL JUST REMAIN AND HOUSED. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY FOR THEM TO GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES. THAT IS A LONG-WINDED QUESTION. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN DOING IT MONTH-TO-MONTH TO SEE HOW THINGS PLAY OUT WITH YOUR FUNDING, HOW THE COUNTY SHAPES OUT? YES. WE CAN CONTINUE MONTH-TO-MONTH. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SHARE VERY CLEARLY WHAT THE OUTREACH DOES AND WHAT IT DOESN'T DO. IT'S A VERY COMPLEX PROBLEM. IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF RESOURCES. OUTREACH IS A PIECE OF THE RESOURCE. IT IS NOT CRISIS RESPONSE. IT'S NOT A MOBILE SUPPORT TEAM PICKETS NOT MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT. IT'S NOT SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT. THE MAIN ROLE IS TO MAKE CONTACT, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS SO THE PERSON WILL TRUST THEM TO START RECEIVING SERVICES.

THEY HELP THEM TO GET THE DOCUMENTS THEY NEED, GET THEM THE SERVICES AND DOCUMENTS SO WHEN

THEY ARE ELIGIBLE AND HOUSING COMES UP THEY ARE BETTER PREPARED TO WALK IN THE DOOR AND WHEN CASE MANAGERS MEET THEM THEY HAVE A HEAD START. I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR BECAUSE EVEN IF WE HAD 40 HOURS A WEEK OR 80 HOURS A WEEK OUTREACH IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE HOMELESS PROBLEM IN THE CITY. IT'S A PIECE OF THE SOLUTION.

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I APPRECIATE THAT. I HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION. WITH THE LIMITED SCOPE, WHEN I READ IS PRIMARILY TO

KEEP CONTACT WITH THEM TO KEEP THEIR INFORMATION FRESH FOR ONE OF THEIR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ENTER IT INTO THE SYSTEM TO KEEP THEM AVAILABLE FOR SOMETHING.

THAT'S RIGHT. TO KEEP THEIR INFORMATION UPDATED IN THE SYSTEM. ONCE THEY HAVE BEEN ENTERED IN THE SYSTEM THE INFORMATION HAS TO BE UPDATED. THERE HAS TO BE CONTACT MADE AND UPDATED OR ELSE THEY FALL OUT OF IT AND THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HOUSING WHEN IT COMES UP.

TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, I AM NOT SURE WHY WE WOULD GO MONTH-TO-MONTH BECAUSE THE STAFF REPORT IS BASED ON A YEAR. I UNDERSTAND IT IS JUST 18 HOURS AND WE MAKE IT THIS OTHER GRANT THAT WOULD

ADD TO IT, IS THERE SOMETHING I'M NOT KIDDING ABOUT WHY WE WOULD GO MONTH-TO-MONTH VERSUS GO WITH THE 18 AND SPEND THE BUDGET? MY SECOND QUESTION WAS THE OTHER THING WE HEARD TONIGHT IS

IF WE DON'T AGREE WITH THE POINT IN TIME WHICH SEBASTOPOL NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN IN

CONTRACT WITH US IN COUNTING THESE, I AM ASSUMING YOU CAN HELP US AND SUBMIT A COUNTER COUNT THAT SAYS THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE SEEN COMPARED TO ONE POINT IN TIME NUMBER.

THE BUY LIST NAME GIVES THAT. IT IS UP DATED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THAT SEEMS A MORE RELIABLE NUMBER. BY APPROVING THIS CONTRACT THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CONTRACT. YOU WOULD KEEP THAT GOING.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

SIX HOURS IS NOT A LOT OF TIME. AND I LOOKED AT THE INTERAGENCY REPRESENTATION AND COORDINATION.

CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS FOUR HOURS OF MEETINGS FOR THIS? THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT. I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IF THAT IS TRULY NECESSARY.

THE TWO HOURS A WEEK IS THE REQUIRED WEEKLY MEETING FOR THE COORDINATED ENTRY. IT IS THE MEETINGS THAT THEY GO TO THAT HELP KEEP THEIR CLIENTS IN COORDINATED ENTRY.

THAT IS NOT A MEETING WITH THE CITY.

NO.

OKAY.

THIS IS A ROUGH ALLOCATION. THERE ARE OTHER MEETINGS THEY MAY OR MAY NOT NEED TO GO TO WHETHER

IT IS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF WE HAVE THE LIAISON MEETING, IT IS TRYING TO GIVE SOME TIME TO THOSE TYPES OF READINGS THEY WILL BE ENGAGED IN. SOMETIMES THERE WON'T BE IN A WEEK. THERE COULD BE ONE, THERE COULD BE MORE. IT'S PARTNERING WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE WORK WITH IN PROVIDING REFERRALS, HELPING LIKE WITH THE WARM HAND OFF.

QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE. PUBLIC COMMENT.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE HOMELESS OUTREACH SERVICES. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT I COME TO CHAMBERS FIRST.

JUST A QUICK COMMENT. SPEAKING TO THE PRESENTATION EARLIER FROM THE COUNTY EXPLAINING THE ENORMOUSLY COMPLEX BUREAUCRACY. THAT IS WHAT W CCS IS TRYING TO DO. THEY ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN WORKING IN THE BUREAUCRATIC SYSTEM TO KEEP THE PATIENTS ALIVE. THEY ARE KEEPING THE PAPERWORK FLOWING AND CROSSING THE T'S AND DOTTING THE I'S. I GUESS FROM A POLICE AND INTERVENTION PERSPECTIVE THE POLICE ARE OUT ON THE STREET DEALING WITH PEOPLE IN REAL TIME. THIS IS A DIFFICULT ONE. YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHICH ONE WILL BE THE MOST VALUABLE BECAUSE

YOU COULD HAVE PEOPLE DROPPING OUT OF THE SYSTEM IF THEY ARE NOT KEEPING THEIR CUSTOMERS IN THE SYSTEM. BUT THEN THE POLICE ARE DEALING WITH PEOPLE THAT NIGHT HAVING CRISES AND SO ON. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO CHOOSE ONE OR THE OTHER AS I UNDERSTAND IT. THAT IS MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL GO TO ZOOM. KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO KRISTI. I FELT LIKE HER REPORT WAS VERY CLEAR AND VERY HONEST. I REALLY RESPECT HER TRANSPARENCY AND THOUGHTFULNESS. IT SEEMS THAT IF WE CAN GET SUPERVISOR HOPKINS TO STICK TO HER WORD WHICH IS A 50-50 CHANCE, WE COULD HAVE COORDINATED ENTRY THROUGH HEART, LIKE A HEART PERSON AT A POLICE STATION AND A HEART AND A SOLE PERSON AT THE POLICE STATION.

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FROM THE COUNTY PRESENTATION IT IS VERY CLEAR THE COUNTY SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THESE RESOURCES AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR THEM ALL ALONG. I DO NOT KNOW WHY THEY WEREN'T. SEBASTOPOL IS

FACING A HUGE PROBLEM CONCERNING THE HOMELESS POPULATION WHICH BECAME CLEAR AFTER THE COUNTY PRESENTATION. WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM AT ELDERBERRY COMMENTS BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR FUNDING WILL BE REDUCED AND IT SEEMS LIKE STAFFING WILL BE COMPROMISED. THE CITY NEEDS TO HAVE CLARITY. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL BE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WITH DWINDLING FUNDING AND MINIMAL STAFFING. IT'S CLEAR FROM THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE PLACED IN PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING ARE EXTREMELY HIGH NEEDS. WE'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED THIS WITH ELDERBERRY COMMENTS SO WHAT IS THE PLAN. I THINK CHRISTIE IS VERY HONEST SO I WOULD LOOK TO HER FOR GUIDANCE. I ALSO AGREE THE POLICE ARE THERE 24/7. IF WE COULD GET THE COUNTY TO PAY FOR HER TIME THAT WOULD BE OPTIMAL. IF WE CAN ALSO GET THE COUNTY TO PAY FOR POLICE TRAINING THAT IS ALSO A MOLE. IT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE TO MAKE THESE CHOICES SINCE LINDA HOPKINS PROMISED US THIS WOULD NOT COST ANY MONEY.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

WOODY, COULD YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF?
CAN YOU HEAR ME.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN. MY NAME IS WOODY HASTING., RESIDENT OF THE 95742. I AM JUST CHIMING IN TO SUPPORT THIS GRANT. WHEN I ENCOUNTER OR INTERACT WITH HOMELESS FOLKS I WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST GIVE THEM A FEW BUCKS. I WOULD LIKE TO HELP THEM IN A WAY THAT IS MORE SUBSTANTIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COORDINATED ENTRY FOR THEM INTO SERVICES. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR HOMELESS FOLKS TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES. I WANTED TO CHIME IN TO SAY THAT I SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT BACK INTO CHAMBERS IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE I WILL GO BACK TO ZOOM. DANIELLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE.

I THINK YOU HAVE.

CAN I SEE THE TIMER.

I AM THE DIRECTOR OF HOMELESS SERVICES FOR WEST COUNTY. I'VE JUST HEARD A LITTLE BIT. I WANT TO

CLEAR UP I AM NOT WEIGHING IN ON THIS BUT PEOPLE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDING FOR ELDERBERRY SERVICES. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT DOES NOT COME THROUGH THE COUNTY OR THE CITY OR EVEN THE STATE. WE HAVE A DIRECT CONTRACT FOR THAT. WE HAVE TWO YEARS OF FUNDING. IS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS EVERY YEAR. WE HAVE FUNDING THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE CITY, SEPARATE FROM THE COUNTY. WE ARE IN YEAR ONE. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE YEAR THREE. WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS FAR AS KEEPING IT. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A TWO YEAR ALLOCATION. HOPEFULLY WE HAVE THE THREE YEARS.

IT IS COMPETITIVE EVERY YEAR. I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE SAY WE WERE GOING TO GET CUTS TO THAT AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE. WE WILL NOT BE HAVING CUTS NEXT YEAR THROUGH THE COUNTY PROCESS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS. I WILL GO BACK TO ZOOM.

JUNE, CAN YOU UNMUTE?
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I CAN.

GOOD EVENING. I LIVE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF SEBASTOPOL. IT IS WHERE I SHOP AND SPEND MOST OF MY TIME WHEN I'M DOING THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD AS OTHERS HAVE SAID WHEN I'M

INTERACTING WITH FOLKS WITHOUT HOUSING I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMEONE DOING THE COORDINATED ENTRY KEEPING THE INFO IN THE SYSTEM. WE HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE PROBLEM. THE HUGE PROBLEM THAT IT IS WITHIN HOUSE FOLKS. WE HAVE THIS BIG PROBLEM SO THIS FUNDING FOR WEST COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICE IS CRITICAL. IT IS NECESSARY. IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BUT IT

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PROGRAMS WE HAVE AND WE REALLY NEED THIS IN PLACE TO HELP US ADVOCATE FOR RESOURCES. THIS WILL

HELP FOR NOT ONLY OUTREACH FOR SERVICES FOR FOLKS WITHOUT HOUSING, BUT ALSO THE RESPONSES TO

MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND ALL OF THE CRITICAL SERVICES AROUND LIKE THE MOBILE SERVICES AND OTHER

SERVICES, BUILDING WITH THE COUNTY ON OTHER RESPONSES WITH THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE SEPARATE AND ADDITIONAL AND ALL OF THE OTHER COMPLEXITIES. I THINK IT'S DIFFERENT TOPICS THAT WE NEED TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL SUPPORT AS FAR AS WHAT ELSE THE POLICE NEED, WHAT OTHER CITY SERVICES NEED.

THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. WITH ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE I WILL GO BACK TO ZOOM. IF ANYBODY ON SCENE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

THANK YOU. BRINGING IT BACK TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR DISCUSSION AND/OR MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS TALK ABOUT THE HOMELESSNESS AT NIGHT. I HAVE DONE RIGHT ALONG'S OVERNIGHT WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY DO KNOW WHERE ALL THE HOMELESS SLEEP. THEY HAVE SHOWED ME SPOTS AS WE DRIVE ALONG. I THINK THAT IS KIND OF TYPICAL. I AM GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF THIS CONTRACT. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT POLICE DO SPEND TIME WITH THE HOMELESS BUT SO DOES EVERY POLICE FORCE IN THE COUNTRY ESPECIALLY IN CALIFORNIA. AND ANY ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WE CAN GET LIKE

WE HEARD ABOUT TONIGHT FROM THE COUNTY WE CAN WORK WITH THE SUPERVISOR AND WEST COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICES TO SUPPORT THE CAUSE FOR THOSE GRANT FUNDS.

I WILL DEFINITELY DITTO WITH COUNCILMEMBER HINTON SAID.

I AM OVERWHELMED ABOUT THE INFORMATION WE GOT TODAY. I'M DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN THE SAFE.

KENNY FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THAT LIKE WHAT IT TAKES TO BE PART OF THE SAFE SYSTEM AND OTHERWISE WE NEED A PLETHORA OF THINGS TO DEAL WITH THESE PROBLEMS.

ONE THOUGHT IS WE HAVE ALREADY BUDGETED $40,000 FOR THIS SO THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

HAVE WE SPENT ANY OF THAT?
YOU APPROVED THE FIRST MONTH OF JULY.

THE MAYOR SUGGESTED WE TAKE IT MONTH-TO-MONTH. I AM WONDERING IF WE JUST STARTED AT THE TWO MONTH START RATHER THAN GOING MONTH-TO-MONTH?
COUNCILMEMBER HINTON PROPOSED KEEPING THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT. I CHANGED MY MIND ALSO.

THAT IS FINE. I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN ALSO LOOK INTO APPLYING FOR THE GRANT FOR THE COUNTY.

MAYBE YOU CAN ALSO. IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO DOUBLE THE EFFORT HERE THROUGH THE COUNTY IF THEY WERE WILLING. THANK YOU. I DO SUPPORT THIS.

I WILL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH WEST COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR HOMELESS OUTREACH THROUGH THE CITY AS OUTLINED IN THE CONTRACT. I BELIEVE THAT IS FUNDING FOR 18 HOURS PER WEEK. THIS IS AN ANNUAL CONTRACT.

SO MOVED AND SECONDED. TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED CONTRACT IN THE A REMAINING MOUNT TO CONTINUE WITH WEST COUNTY CONTINUING SERVICES. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

COUNCILMEMBER MAURER. MAYOR ZOLLMAN.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

THE LAST ITEM. CONSIDERATION THE COST OF THE APPRAISAL CAN RANGE BETWEEN 1000 AND 5000. THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AND NOT RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING. THE BUDGET COMMITTEE EXPRESSED THE APPRAISAL THAT IS PREMATURE. I AM REQUESTING AS THE PRIMARY LIAISON TO THE SENIOR CENTER. THE COUNCILMEMBER IS THE ULTIMATE -- ALTERNATE. I THOUGHT I SHOULD BRING IT FORTH TO MY COLLEAGUES TO HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE THE RESPONSIBLE DEPARTMENT, TURNING TO THE CITY MANAGER TO LEAD THE DISCUSSION.

WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE SENIOR CENTER FOR A WHILE THAT THEY ARE EXPANDING, GROWING OUT OF THE BUILDING FACILITY. THEY ARE OUT GROWING THE SPACE AND LOOKING FOR OTHER OPTIONS. I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY ALTERNATE LOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CONCRETE. ALSO, WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST CITY

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NONPROFIT. CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS NOT TO DO IT AT THIS TIME TO SEE WHAT THE COMMITTEE CAN COME UP WITH. THEN TO HAVE CONCRETE SOLUTIONS. WITHOUT KNOWING WHERE AN ALTERNATE LOCATION IS AND WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE AND THINGS LIKE THAT IT IS KIND OF HARD TO DO THE APPRAISAL. 90 DAYS DOWN THE ROAD IT COULD CHANGE. WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDED AT THIS TIME TO DO THIS CONTRACT. IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS YOU WANT TO ADD WE JUST DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO DO THIS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE COMMITTEE COMES UP WITH. IF THERE ARE VIABLE OPTIONS WE ARE NOT AWARE OF THEY CAN ADDRESS THAT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.

DID YOU WANT TO COME UP?
I WILL TRY TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO IT. STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDED BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES. WE

WANT TO SUPPORT THE SENIOR CENTER AND THEIR DESIRE TO GET BIGGER AND HOUSE THE GROWING POPULATION. WE FEEL IT IS NOT PRUDENT UNTIL WE COME UP WITH MORE SOLID SOLUTIONS BECAUSE THE APPRAISAL WOULD BE INVALIDATED AFTER 30, 60 TO 90 DAYS. IF THERE IS NOTHING WITH THAT IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY TO DO IT AT THIS TIME. TO HELP THEM FIND SOLUTIONS TO THE GROWING SITUATION.

THANK YOU. ANY WESTERNS BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

I AM CURIOUS WHY THEY WANT AN OFFICIAL APPRAISAL AT THIS TIME. JUST KIND OF READ THROUGH THIS.

OBVIOUSLY WE GOT A LOT OF LETTERS ENCOURAGING US TO APPROVE IT. IS THERE ANYWAY WE COULD HEAR FROM THE DIRECTOR ABOUT WHY. SECONDLY, NOT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THE OTHER THING IS YOU CAN DO AN UNOFFICIAL APPRAISAL AND REAL ESTATE PEOPLE WILL GIVE THAT TO YOU PRETTY EASILY. IS THERE ANY WAY YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THAT.

WE WILL HAVE KATIE COME UP AND EXPLAIN THE LOGIC OF WHY IT IS SHE'S ASKING FOR IT NOW. CODY, COME UP.

WE ARE FINE?
THANK YOU. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE INITIAL APPRAISAL MAY NOT BE VALID AFTER A WHILE. I THINK JUST BEING ON THE AGENDA AT THIS SAYS A LOT OF THE PRIORITIES. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ADDING US TO THE AGENDA WITH THIS MONTHS OF BACK AND FORTH AND WHAT WE DO. HE'S BEEN SUPER HELPFUL CHATTING ME UP ABOUT POTENTIAL BUILDINGS. SINCE THE ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR THE APPRAISAL. THE CONVERSATION.

THAT HAS CHANGED SINCE WE HAVE MADE THE ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR THE APPRAISAL. WE FULLY SUPPORT THE COMMONS PROJECT. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE SENIOR CENTER THAT ARE VERY EAGER TO JOIN THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE TO BE PART OF THAT. REALISTICALLY WE BELIEVE IT IS AN AMBITIOUS PROJECT. IT IS 15 TO 20 YEARS OUT. OUR NEEDS ARE MORE IMMEDIATE.. WE LOCKED 36,000 UNITS OF SERVICE.

LAST TIME IT WAS IN THE 20s. YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GROWN BY 12%. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TOPICS. ANOTHER TOPIC IS THE EXPLODING SENIOR POPULATION. IF THE TOWN IS NOT READY TO HANDLE THE INCREASED NEED FOR SENIOR SERVICES. WE WILL BE IN A TOUGH SPOT. WE HAVE 16 HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WHILE THEY ARE SERVING 2000 INDIVIDUAL SENIORS EACH YEAR. 100 PEOPLE PER DAY ARE COMING THROUGH THOSE DOORS FOR A MEAL OR GRIEF GROUP OR SUPPORT GROUP. WE BELIEVE, OUR

BUILDING HOLD SIGNIFICANT VALUE PICK WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT KNOWLEDGE IS POWER THAT'S WHY WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR AN APPRAISAL. YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT JUST GETTING A REAL ESTATE AGENT TO GET AN IDEA.

I THINK THAT IS A GREAT SUGGESTION. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER AND APPRAISAL GIVES US IN THE CITY MORE ACCURATE DATA TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS, STRATEGIC DECISIONS. WHAT THAT MEANS ABOUT LEVERAGING THE BUILDING FOR THIS COMMONS PROJECT OR RELOCATING THE LIBRARY. SELLING TO FUND A LARGER PURCHASE. OTHER CREATIVE SOLUTIONS. WE HAVE A DEDICATED EXPANSION COMMITTEE. A VERY EAGER DONOR BASE TO SUPPORT A CAMPAIGN. WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND OTHER NONPROFIT PARTNERS. WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS TIME TO WAIT. EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT AN APPRAISAL I WILL BE A SQUEAKY WHEEL. WE NEED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A PROJECT IN THE LIKELY NEXT 2 TO 5 YEARS.

THAT IS MY COMMENT ON THAT. I'M HAPPY TO STAY AND TAKE QUESTIONS. I KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHER FOLKS.

CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION.

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SURE. SINCE THE CITY OWNS THE BUILDING, ASKING RIGHT OUT IS THE SENIOR CENTER THINKING THAT THEY WOULD LEVERAGE THE BUILDING THAT LYONS. WITH THE CAPITOL CAMPAIGN HE WOULD FILL THE GAP? THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE OPTIONS, YES. IN THE LEASE THAT WE SHARE WITH THE CITY THERE IS A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE THERE THAT THE BUILDING WAS DONATED. THE BUILDING WAS LEVERAGED AND SOLD WITH

THE BUILDING AND THE LOAN TAKEN OUT ON THIS THAT IT COULD FIND ANOTHER CENTER FOR THE NEEDS OF SENIOR SERVICES TODAY. NOT 60 YEARS AGO WHEN THE ORGANIZATION WAS

MARRIED I DID ASK YOU TO RESEARCH THAT BECAUSE I TOO HAVE HEARD THE FACT THAT SOMEHOW THE DEED IS RESTRICTED. SEES OF HIS LANGUAGE IN THE LEASE?
BELIEVE IN THE DEED AS WELL. WE HAVE NOT SEEN INDEED. HAS BEEN PASSED ON VERBALLY.

SO I SEARCHED THE DEED. IT'S NOT ON THE DEED. MAYBE WITHIN YOUR LEASE IT SAYS THAT YOU CAN USE YOUR LEASE. I'M STILL DOING SOME RESEARCH ON IT. I DID PULL THE DEED. SO NOW I'M ALSO WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO SEE THE THERE IS ANY OTHER RECORDABLE DOCUMENT THAT MIGHT STATE THAT. THE ISSUE HAS BEEN RESOLVED YET. I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

THANK YOU, MARY. WOULD YOU MIND SHARING THE? OUR ATTORNEYS ON OUR BOARD HAVE ALSO BEEN TRYING TO LOCATE THAT FOR VERY LONG TIME. SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CAN SHARE THAT WITH US.

SURE. IT'S JUST ONE PAGE HAVE PARAGRAPH DEED. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE YOUR COPY OF.

THANK YOU, KATIE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO OUT TO PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NO TO THE RIGHT. NONETHELESS.

THIS IS FOR THE SENIOR CENTER FOR APPRAISAL. IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT WE CAN DO CHAMBERS FIRST AND THEN I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

I'M GARY BATCHELOR. I AM THE PAST BOARD PRESIDENT OF THE SENIOR CENTER. THANK YOU ALL. I CAN UNDERSTAND NOW WHY YOU WILL GET SO MUCH MONEY EVERY MONTH. THE ISSUE THAT WE ARE RUNNING INTO AT THE SENIOR CENTER, WE ARE JUST BUSTING. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT ANY POSSIBLE WAY THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT BUILDING, LEVERAGE THE RESOURCE. THIRD, ACTUALLY OVER A THIRD OF THE POPULATION ARE SENIORS. EVERY DAY MORE AND MORE COMING IN. WE TURN SOMETIMES 30, 40 PEOPLE A DAY AWAY. THEY GET ON A WAITLIST. WE RENT OTHER FACILITIES TO USE AND THEN THEY COME BACK TO THE SENIOR CENTER.

WE WILL GET ON THE WAITLIST. WE'LL STAY HERE. SO IT'S A REAL CHALLENGE. WE ARE CERTAINLY WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU AND BRAINSTORM ANY NUMBER OF IDEAS. IF YOU HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS, WE WERE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THAT. THAT'S QUITE A WAYS OUT, AS KATIE SAID. I DID ASK THE REALTOR WHAT HE THOUGHT THE BUILDING WAS WORTH. HE SAID, $500,000. THAT BUILDING IS WORTH WAY MORE THAN $500,000. THAT'S WHAT REALTOR TOLD ME. WE MAKE IT THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT ESTIMATES FROM REALTORS. BUT THE VALUE OF A LEGITIMATE, REAL APPRAISAL WOULD HELP US ALL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. LINDA, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
YEAH. I CAN SEE THE CLOCK.

THANK YOU.

YEAH. $500,000 IS NOT GOING TO CUT IT. MY IDEA WAS, RIGHT IS CLOSING ON THE 24th. AND I ASKED. THEY ARE RENTING THE BUILDING. SO THAT ON THE BUILDING. MAYBE IT COULD BE RENTED AS A SUBSIDIARY

BUILDING BECAUSE YOU CAN TAKE A BUILDING LIKE THAT THAT'S PRETTY EMPTY, TO TAKE THE SHELVES OUT AND EVERYTHING. THE ONLY ROOM IN IT IS THE PHARMACY. PUT AIR WALLS IN IT, MEANING IF THEY WANT

HAVING PARTY THEY CAN PULL THE AIR WALLS AND USE THE ENTIRE BUILDING FOR A DANCE OR SOMETHING AND THEN DIVIDE IT UP INTO COMPONENTS. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, THEY JUST FINANCED A TOTAL PROFESSIONAL KITCHEN IN THE SENIOR CENTER. SO I THINK WE MADE END UP WITH, IT MAY BE INCONVENIENT

BUT MAYBE IT'S BETTER TO ACTUALLY USE TWO BUILDINGS FOR THE SENIOR CENTER SINCE I THINK THEY -- THE PERSON FROM THE SENIOR CENTER CAN CORRECT ME, I THINK THEY PAID OVER $100,000 FOR THE INDUSTRIAL LEVEL KITCHEN. WE DEFINITELY NEED IT. AND I AGREE WITH THE PERSON THAT MADE THE COMMENT THAT WITHOUT MORE, THREE OR FOUR TIMES THAT AMOUNT IN SENIORS. I THINK WE HAVE TO PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR POPULATION IS.

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THANK YOU, LINDA, FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WILL COME INTO THE CHAMBER'S.

VERY QUICKLY, IT IS A COUNTY THEMED EVENING THIS EVENING. A LOT OF PEOPLE USING THE SENIOR CENTER. I SAID THIS HERE BEFORE. -- PLAYING A LOT MORE FOR THE SENIOR CENTER. THE SENIOR CENTER BUDGET -- RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE PAYING A DOLLAR A YEAR FOR THAT BUILDING, WHICH THE CITY OWNS. I'M A BIG FAN OF THE SENIOR CENTER. I PREVIOUSLY SAID. WITH THIS IS AN UNREALISTIC SITUATION. WE ARE NOT BEING RANKED IN THE RIGHT BUILDING. ON BEHALF OF THE SENIOR CENTER, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY KIND OF SENSE AT ALL.

SO WE'VE GOT TO FIND A SOLUTION TO HELP THE SENIOR CENTER LEVERAGE THE BANK ACCOUNT TO EXPAND IN THE CITY. BY PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE COUNTY TO ASK ME STEP UP AND PUT SOME FUNDING IN FOR THIS. BECAUSE I KNOW PERFECTLY WELL FOR MY WIFE, SHE DRIVES OUT OF THE CITY ALL THE TIME TO BRING THEM TO THE SENIOR CENTER. WE WILL PICK THEM UP AT THE SENIOR CENTER FOR MEDICAL REASONS OR WHATEVER. IT'S A WONDERFUL LOCAL RESOURCE. ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE THE TINY NUMBER OF TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR COUNTY RESOURCES AND IT CAN FLY IN THIS ECONOMY.

NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF PLEASE? THANK YOU.

I SUPPORT THE SENIOR CENTER AND ITS MISSION. IT IS A VITAL AND CRUCIAL ORGANIZATION FOR PEOPLE IN WEST COUNTY. THE SENIOR CENTER IS VERY SUCCESSFUL AND FINANCIALLY STABLE, MUCH MORE SO THAN THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL. THE SENIOR CENTER EXPANSION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY-OWNED BUILDING AT 160'S NORTH HIGH STREET. IT IS CONCERNING THE DEED. THE DEED IS NOT RESTRICTED. THE BUILDINGS OWNED BY THE CITY, NOT THE SENIOR CENTER. IF IT IS SOLD, THE MONEY GOES BACK TO THE CITY. THE MONEY DOES NOT GO TO THE SENIOR CENTER. THE SENIOR CENTER CAN EXPAND AND MOVE WITHOUT ANY INVOLVEMENT BY THE CITY. THE SENIOR CENTER RENTS FROM THE CITIZENS OF SEBASTOPOL POINT ONE DOLLAR A YEAR. 167 NORTH HIGH STREET IS NOT OWNED BY THE SENIOR CENTER. WHEN I RENTED APARTMENTS I NEVER THOUGHT I COULD SELL THE BUILDING THAT I RENTED IN AND THEN TAKE THE MONEY. HOW TO USE THE SENIOR CENTER RESIDENTS OF SEBASTOPOL? IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR THE SENIOR CENTER TO DO SOME

RESEARCH TO GET FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY, AS OLIVER JUST MENTIONED, PROBABLY AT LEAST HALF OR MORE DO NOT LIVE IN SEBASTOPOL. THERE'S A TON OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE FOR SALE IN SEBASTOPOL. IT

MIGHT BE BEST TO CONTACT THREE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AGENTS AND GET SOME, AS COUNCILMEMBER HINTON SUGGESTED, AND COMPARISONS RACED ON COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE THAT HAS SOLD. BECAUSE

INTEREST RATES AND THE HIGH ABUNDANCE HE OF PROPERTIES ON THE MARKET PRICES IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE MIGHT BE MUCH LESS THAN YOU THINK. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KATE, FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WILL GO BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS LES LEWIS. I AM WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL A MEMBER OF THE SENIOR CENTER. I CONFIRM WHAT YOU KNOW, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE USE SOME FACET. AND SOME OF US USE SEVERAL FACETS.

AND THE RESULT IS THAT WE ARE PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY. IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE A FOCAL POINT TO PROVIDE

A LEGITIMATE NEED OF SERVICES TO ME WOULD HAVE A BUNCH OF OLD PEOPLE HANGING OUT OF THEIR HOUSES WITH LITTLE REASON TO COME OUT. SO YOU ARE GETTING A VARIETY OF BENEFITS. FOR EXAMPLE, MY WIFE AND MYSELF TAKE AN EXERCISE CLASS. IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS SO BUSY THAT WE USED TO TAKE IT TWICE A WEEK. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO STAND BY IT. WE HAVE BEEN IN CLASS FOR A WEEK OR SO.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THE INTENT WAS. THE INTENT WAS TO KEEP PEOPLE EXERCISING, BENEFITING AND PRESUMABLY HAVE A BETTER COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE WALKING AROUND. PLEASE, FOLLOW YOUR INSTINCTS AND SUPPORT IT ANYWAY YOU CAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. MARY, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF PLEASE? THANK YOU.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?

I CAN HEAR YOU PICK
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I CAN. GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.

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OKAY. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH WHAT OLIVER SAID AND WHAT KATE SAID. I'M ALSO WONDERING, DO THEY

KNOW AT THE SENIOR CENTER HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY COME IN FROM NOT ANY OTHER PLACE OTHER THAN OUR TEENY TOWN OF SEBASTOPOL? I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW THAT. THAT'S IT. THANKS.

THANK YOU, MARY, FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. XO WILL COME BACK INTO THE CHAMBERS. SEE NONE. I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM ONE LAST TIME. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT REASON AND VIRTUALLY. I'M SEEING NONE PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSE POINT THANK YOU, MARY. BRINGING IT BACK TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR DISCUSSION OR MOTION.

I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS. HE ALSO HAVE A WAITLIST MANY TIMES. AND MANY PEOPLE COME IN FOR THAT CLASS FROM OUT OF THE COUNTY. I WILL SAY THAT I KNOW FOR FACT, THE CORNER BUILDING DOWN FROM YOU GUYS SOLD. I THINK IT WAS RIGHT AFTER COVID IN 2020 FOR ABOUT $900,000. A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH TELLS ME YOURS IS WORTH ABOUT $1,600,000. $500,000 IS BECAUSE PICK YOU SHOULD GET A NEW REALTOR. I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S PREMATURE. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE SENIOR CENTER. I THINK ANY REALTOR WORTH THEIR SALT CAN GIVE YOU A REALISTIC SO YOU GUYS CAN PURSUE BUILDINGS AROUND TOWN TO EXPAND. SENIORS ARE GROWING. IT'S A GROWING POPULATION. WE KEEP GETTING A LITTLE GRAYER. SHE'S GOT HER MICROPHONE OFF. OKAY. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS TONIGHT. WE WERE HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUES SAY.

I AM A MEMBER OF THE SENIOR CENTER. I PARTICULARLY ENJOY GOING TO THE HARVEST CAFE AND SEEING THE ART SHOWS THAT YOU ARE HAVING IN THE SENIOR CENTER. I REALLY LIKE THE LEGACY TOO. YOU ARE PROVIDING SUCH A GREAT SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I'M ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE SO I DID NOT APPROVE THIS EXPENSE WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP. THE MAIN REASON WAS THE APPRAISAL IS ONLY GOOD FOR A FEW MONTHS. SO IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO APPROVE IT AT THAT TIME. I ALSO KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL HAS A GOAL OF A BALANCED BUDGET. SO IF WE APPROVE THIS WE WOULD BE IN A DEFICIT BUDGET. AND THAT WOULD NOT FEEL GOOD TO ME. I ALSO WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS. IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE I LOVE THE SENIOR CENTER. WE GET ALL THESE COMMENTS AND PEOPLE WANT US TO DO THIS. IT'S OKAY TO SAY NO. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WILL SUPPORT YOUR ORGANIZATION AT ALL. IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT AT ALL. AS OUR STAFF WAS SAYING, WE DO HAVE THIS COMMITTEE THAT HAS STARTED LOOKING INTO THE COMMENTS. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU.

FIRST, IT'S WAY PAST MY BEDTIME. I DON'T KNOW HOW ANY OF YOU GUYS ARE STILL UP. IF I WAS GOING TO THE SENIOR CENTER I DON'T THINK I WOULD STILL BE AWAKE. ARE THEY SO KICK IN? THEY ARE BETTER THAN ME.

ANYWAY, THE SERIES BUILDING MIGHT BE AVAILABLE. IT COULD BE 1.4. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE ASKING.

ANYWAY, IT'S A PRIVATE PLACE. THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. WE ARE GOING TO TRY OUR BEST TO FIND SOMETHING. WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT. WE WILL BRAINSTORM WITH WHOEVER WE MIGHT NEED TO BRAINSTORM WITH. I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER HINTON. YOU CAN USE 1.7 TO 2.3 FOR THE VALUE OF YOUR BUILDING AND USE THAT TO TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT. WE WILL DO OUR SHARE TO SORT OUT SOME KIND OF FINANCING TO FIGURE IT OUT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT THE COMMENTS THAT THEY ARE BOUND TO PUT OUT IS NOT A TWENTY-YEAR THING. WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW, NOW. I HOPE THERE WILL BE A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR HOW WE ARE USING OUR BUILDINGS. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DOING IMMEDIATELY. WITH THAT SAID, JUST TAKE THAT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT THAT WE ARE NOT GOING FOR THE FORMAL APPRAISAL. BUT WHEN IT BECOMES NECESSARY WE WILL REVISIT IT. SO IF WE HAVE AN OPTION ON THE TABLE READY TO GO THEN WE WILL THINK ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I THINK I HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE THIS 15, 20 OR GRANDIOSE 5000 MILES DOWN IN THE FUTURE CAME FROM. I HAVE A REAL STRONG FEELING OF WHERE THEY CAME FROM AND I'VE GOT TO SAY, IT'S PRETTY DISRESPECTFUL. SO JUST GOT TO PUT OUT THERE TO NIP THAT IN THE BUD. I WAS GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE. THIS IS NOT A GRANDIOSE THING. IT IS INSULTING FOR SOME OF

US WHO HAVE SPENT NOT ONE, BUT TWO YEARS, COMING TO THREE YEARS TO RESEARCH NOT JUST FOR THE LIBRARY BUT FOR A WHOLE COMMONS TO BENEFIT EVERYONE IN THE CITY. INCLUDING THE NONPROFITS. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. WITH THAT SAID, I DO HAVE FAITH IN YOU GUYS WILL BE INVITED TO BE MEMBERS OF THE COMMONS. YOU CAN BRING YOUR FUNDRAISING EXPERTISE, YOUR CAPITAL CAMPAIGN. THERE ARE Page | 64
MANY OTHERS IN THE CITY THAT ARE STRUGGLING FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE. I AM THE ONE THAT REVIVES THE NONPROFIT COLLABORATIVE. THAT CHAPTER DOES EVEN HAVE A SPACE. I FEEL FOR YOU AND THAT THE VALUE OF THE SERVICES. I WOULD LIKE MORE COOPERATION AND MORE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW EVERYONE IS EXPERIENCING PRESSURES TOO. I AM DEFINITELY NOT SUPPORTING THIS. I AM WILLING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH EVERYONE AND THE BOARD. AGAIN, HAVE A MORE REALISTIC AND A LITTLE MORE RESPECT FOR THE TIME EFFORT AS FAR AS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO FOR SPACE FOR EVERYONE. SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO EXPLAIN THAT.

I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

SURE, COUNCILMEMBER PICK
I JUST WANT TO ADD, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR SUCCESS. YOU ARE OUTGROWING YOUR BUILDING AND THAT MEANS THAT YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL. YOU ARE SERVING THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S A GREAT THING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY. DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? IF THERE IS NOBODY MAKING THE MOTION PICK IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUEST.

OKAY. IS ANYONE PREPARED TO DO THAT?

I WANT TO SPEAK FROM BOTH SIDES OF MY FACE AND MOVED TO DENY THE MOTION AND ALSO CONGRATULATE YOUR SUCCESS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

IS THERE SECOND?
WE HAVE AN ACTION ON AN AGENDA ITEM. WE CAN DO A CONSENSUS IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY.

IT CAN TAKE NO ACTION AND NOTHING HAPPENS AND NOTHING WILL BE RECORDED.

OKAY. SO WHAT DO PEOPLE PREFER? JUST LET IT DIE? OKAY. GOOD WITH DOING NOTHING. I GUESS NO ONE IS MAKING A MOTION AND NO ONE HAS SECONDED. IT IS WHAT IT IS. THERE WILL BE NO MOVEMENT ON THIS ACTION ITEM. I THINK THAT CONCLUDES THE CALENDAR. BUT WE DO NEED TO DO THE 20 MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT. CORRECT?
YES. WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES. WE CAN PUT THE PUBLIC COMMENT UP. WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO GO FORWARD BEYOND 10:30 IF WE THINK WE ARE GOING TO GET MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS. SO LET ME OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO SPEAK AT THE EARLIER PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS. SEEING NONE. I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM. THERE IS NONE. THERE IS NO SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT.

GREAT. THANK YOU. WE ARE NOT REALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ANY STAFF REPORTS UNLESS ANYONE THAT WANTS TO DO THAT FOR THE REMAINING FOUR MINUTES OF THE MEETING OR WE WILL JUST ADJOURN.

YOU CAN ADJOURN.

WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD. EVERYONE OKAY? ADJOURN? WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. [Event Concluded]