CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA
Regular Meeting of Tuesday, May 19, 2026
6:00 pm Start Time
As Approved by the City Council at their regular meeting of June 2, 2026.
CALL TO ORDER: Mayor McLewis called the meeting to order 6:02 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Mayor Jill McLewis
Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer
Councilmember Phill Carter
Councilmember Neysa Hinton Departed 7:50 pm.
Councilmember Stephen Zollman
Absent: None
Staff: Interim City Manager Mary Gourley
Alex Mog, City Attorney, Redwood Public Law
Administrative Services Director Kwong
Interim Planning Director, 4Leaf
Police Chief McDonagh
Public Works Director Hart
SALUTE TO THE FLAG: Mayor McLewis led the salute to the flag.
REMOTE PARTICIPATION UNDER AB 2449 (IF NEEDED): To consider and take action on any request from a Council Member to participate in a meeting remotely due to Just Cause or Emergency Circumstances pursuant to AB 2449 (Government Code Section 549539(f)). Assembly Bill 2302 (2024) (“AB 2302”) revises rules for when members of local legislative bodies may participate in meetings remotely. Specifically, it amends the number of meetings that may be attended remotely for just cause and under emergency circumstances and clarifies the definition of the term “meeting,” for purposes of remote attendance. AB 2302 caps the number of remote meetings a member can attend each year based on the frequency of a legislative body’s meetings: Five meetings per year for those meeting twice a month.
LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: The City of Sebastopol acknowledges that we live and work within the unceded ancestral homelands of the Southern Pomo and the Coast Miwok people. We pay our respect to the past, present, and future generations of these peoples, including the Federated Indians of Graton Rancheria.
REMEMBERING THE HISTORY OF SEBASTOPOL: Mayor McLewis provided history of Sebastopol events.
PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS/INTRODUCTIONS: None
STATEMENTS OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST: Conflicts of interest may arise in situations where a public official deliberating towards a decision, has an actual or potential financial interest in the matter before the Council. In accordance with state law, an actual conflict of interest is one that would be to the private financial benefit of a public official, a relative or a business with which the Councilmember is associated. A potential conflict of interest is one that could be to the private financial benefit of a Councilmember, a relative or a business with which the Councilmember is associated. A Councilmember must publicly announce potential and actual conflicts of interest, and, in the case of actual conflict of interest, must refrain from participating in debate on the issue or from voting on the issue and must remove themselves from the dais. None
PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA (FIRST COMMENT PERIOD):
• Up to Twenty (20) Minute Time Limit (Two Minutes for up to ten speakers). • Additional public comment will be held at the end of the discussion and action items for up to an additional twenty (20) minutes.
• Mayor has discretion to allow for additional time beyond the 20 minutes allocated for public comment dependent upon the subject matter or number of speakers. • Process for calling on Speakers: Mayor or designee shall ask for public comment as follows: Speakers to be called on in an alternate manner (One speaker in person to be called on first; then one speaker remote to be called on second with additional speakers to be called on in the same manner) based upon the time limit.
The following member(s) of the public spoke during public comment for items not on the agenda:
A&M BBQ Owner
Myriah
Michael
Kyle
CONSENT CALENDAR:
• The consent agenda consists of items that are routine in nature and do not require additional discussion by the City Council or have been reviewed by the City Council previously. These items may be approved by one motion without discussion unless a member of the City Council requests that the item be taken off the consent calendar.
• The Mayor will read aloud the title of each consent item (either full agenda title or a simplified version of the agenda title), and ask if a Councilmember wishes to remove one or more items from the consent calendar; and then open public comment to the members of the public in attendance. At this time, a member of the public may speak for up to two (2) minutes on the entire consent calendar and request at that time that an item or items removed for discussion.
• If an item or items are removed from the consent calendar, the item shall be placed at the end of the regular agenda items unless otherwise determined by the Mayor. Council Members may comment on Consent Calendar items or ask for minor clarifications without the need for pulling the item for separate consideration. Items requiring deliberation should be pulled for separate consideration and shall be placed at the end of the regular agenda items unless otherwise determined by the Mayor.
Mayor McLewis read the consent calendar.
Mayor McLewis asked if any Councilmember wanted to remove a consent calendar item. There were no requests.
Mayor McLewis opened for public comment. The following member(s) of the public spoke during public comment:
None
Mayor McLewis called for a motion.
MOTION:
Councilmember Zollman moved and Councilmember Carter seconded the motion to approve consent calendar items 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8.
Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.
VOTE:
Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zollman, Vice Mayor Maurer and Mayor McLewis Noes: None
Absent: None
Abstain: None
1. Approval of City Council Meeting Minutes of May 5, 2026 Responsible Department: Interim City Manager
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the minutes is covered within existing budgeted salaries.
Additional Fiscal Impact: None
City Council Action:
Minute Order Number: 2026-135
2. Approval of Receipt /Adoption of FY 26 27 City Council Goals, Priorities and Tasks Responsible Department: Interim City Manager
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda item is covered within existing budgeted salaries.
Additional Fiscal Impact: Adoption of the goals itself has no direct fiscal impact. Many tasks are funded within existing budgets or day-to-day operations. Tasks with potential new costs (e.g., studies, grants, capital projects, or consultant support) will be brought forward individually for Council review and budget consideration as part of the FY 2026-27 budget process or through specific agenda items. Staff will identify and flag any significant new expenditures in future reports.
City Council Action:
Minute Order Number: 2026-136
3. Approval of Second Reading and Adoption of Ordinance for Purchase of Cameras for the Sebastopol Police Station/ Amendment for Safe House Security System to be paid for from the Police Endowment Fund Responsible Department: Police/City Attorney
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda item is covered within existing budgeted salaries.
Additional Fiscal Impact: No Impact to General Fund. Costs for Cameras are covered by endowment fund in the amount of $13,875.
City Council Action:
Minute Order Number: 2026-137
Ordinance Number: 1165
4. FY 2026-27 Street Lighting Assessment District. Adopt a resolution of intention to levy and collect the annual assessments for Fiscal Year 2026-27 for the City of Sebastopol Street Lighting Assessment District, preliminarily approving the annual Engineer’s Report and setting the date of the Public Hearing in accordance with provisions of the Landscaping and Lighting Act of 1972.
Responsible Department: Administrative Servies/Public Works Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda item is covered within existing budgeted salaries.
Additional Fiscal Impact: There is no additional fiscal impact with approval of this item.
City Council Action:
Minute Order Number: 2026-138
Resolution Number: 6761-2026
5. Approval of Contract Change Order 3 with Team Ghilotti Inc, Approve Budget Amendment for the Bodega Avenue Bike Lanes and Pavement Rehabilitation Phase 2 Project for a total Project Budget of 2,673,600 and authorize the City Manage to execute the amendment
Responsible Department: Public Works
Fiscal Impact: Approval of the proposed Budget Amendment will increase the total project budget for the Bodega Avenue Bike Lanes and Pavement Rehabilitation Phase 2 Project. The additional funding is proposed from Pavement Reserve Fund 123. The project continues to be primarily funded through the Go Sonoma Grant, Measure M Transportation funds, and SB1 Road Maintenance funds.
City Council Action:
Minute Order Number: 2026-139
Resolution Number: 6762-2026
6. Approval of Resolution Authorizing the California Urban Streams Partnership (CUSP) to prepare and submit a grant application to the California Natural Resources Agency Urban Greening Grant program, on behalf of the City. Grant funding would allow design work to begin on Phase 1 of the Calder Creek project.
Responsible Department: Planning/Public Works
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda item is covered within existing budgeted salaries.
No direct fiscal impact from authorization of the grant application as staff time to prepare the agenda item is covered within existing budgeted salaries. If the grant is awarded, administrative costs would occur as staff administers the grant.
Additional Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to administer the grant is not yet know but may be covered within existing budgeted salaries.
City Council Action: Approved Resolution Authorizing the California Urban Streams Partnership (CUSP) to prepare and submit a grant application to the California Natural Resources Agency Urban Greening Grant program, on behalf of the City. Grant funding would allow design work to begin on Phase 1 of the Calder Creek project.
Minute Order Number: 2026-140
Resolution Number: 6763-2026
7. Approval of Pay Rates and Ranges Related to the Approved City Manager Employment Agreement Responsible Department: Administrative Servies
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda item is covered within existing budgeted salaries.
Additional Fiscal Impact: There is no additional fiscal impact with approval of this item as salary is included within the City budget.
City Council Action: Approved Resolution of Pay Rates and Ranges Related to the Approved City Manager Employment Agreement
Minute Order Number: 2026-141
Resolution Number: 6764-2026
8. Approval of Renewal of agreement between the City of Sebastopol and Sonoma County Community Development Commission for administration of the Sebastopol Mobile home Rent Stabilization Program (July 1, 2026 to June 30, 2027). The City of Sebastopol adopted its Mobile home Rent Stabilization Ordinance to protect residents of mobile home parks from unreasonable rent increases while ensuring park owners receive a fair return on their investment. The City contracts yearly with the Sonoma County Community Development Commission (CDC) to administer the requirements in the ordinance due to the specialized nature of rent stabilization administration.
Responsible Department: City Attorney/City Manager
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.
Additional Fiscal Impact: The City budget yearly contains allocation of $500 for this contract.
City Council Action:
Minute Order Number: 2026-142
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS/PRESENTATIONS: Informational Items or Presentations are items that are informational only and do not require action by the City Council. Presentations shall be scheduled as necessary for the promotion of an event or service or general information items to the Council and should be limited to ten (10) minutes total in length of item (total length includes questions of Council to presenter and public comment).
9. Gravenstein Commons: Informational Update from St Vincents de Paul Responsible Department: City Manager
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.
Additional Fiscal Impact: There is no additional fiscal impact with receipt of this informational item.
City Manager Gourley presented the agenda item. City Manager Gourley introduced Ron Plasse and Uriel Brena from SVdP.
Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. The Council asked various questions of City staff.
Mayor McLewis opened the public comment period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public comment period:
Laura
Oliver
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:
Council continued discussion of the item.
No action required. Informational item only.
City Council Action: None required. Informational item only.
Minute Order Number: 2026-143
10. Development Agreement Annual Report – Barlow Hotel. Annual Report for the Development Agreement is required by State law and the DA itself. City staff will provide information on timeline of Development Agreement and What would happen upon expiration of development agreement. Annual Report is due each June.
Responsible Department: Planning
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.
Additional Fiscal Impact: There is no additional fiscal impact with receipt of this informational item.
Interim Planning Director Consultant Jane Riley 4 Leaf, presented the agenda item.
Jane Riley introduced Barney Aldridge. Mr. Aldridge provided an update to the City Council.
Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. The Council asked various questions of City staff.
Mayor McLewis opened the public comment period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public comment period:
Brownwa
Kyle
Oliver
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:
Council continued discussion of the item.
No action required. Informational item only.
City Council Action: None required. Informational item only.
Minute Order Number: 2026-144
PUBLIC HEARING(s): NONE
REGULAR CALENDAR AGENDA ITEMS (DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION):
11. Adoption of the Downtown STG Project. Review and adopt the proposed plan to convert both Petaluma Ave and Main Street to two way traffic with the inclusion of pedestrian safety improvements.
Responsible Department: Planning
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.
Additional Fiscal Impact: The Reimaging the Core Plan has been funded by a Sustainable Transportation Grant, with a small City contribution made possible by cost savings in the Planning Department budget. Fiscal impacts related to future projects to implement the Plan are not yet known, but can be expected to include some level of City match for most grant funding sources. Future opportunities will be presented as they arise, with a fiscal analysis for the Council’s consideration.
Interim Planning Director Consultant Jane Riley 4 Leaf, presented the agenda item.
Jane Riley introduced Geoff Rubendall, Fehr & Peers. Mr. Rubendall provided a presentation.
Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. The Council asked various questions of City staff.
Mayor McLewis opened the public comment period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public comment period:
Gabe
Lee
Lawrence
Emily
Oliver
Paul
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:
Council continued discussion of the item.
Mayor McLewis called for a motion.
MOTION:
Councilmember Hinton moved and Councilmember Zollman seconded the motion to adopt a resolution to: 1) confirm that work under the STG grant has been completed; and 2) adopt a resolution approving “Reimagining the Core” Plan, including the Planning Commission’s suggestions for recommended future actions.
Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.
VOTE:
Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zollman, and Vice Mayor Maurer Noes: Mayor McLewis
Absent: None
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved to adopt a resolution to: 1) confirm that work under the STG grant has been completed; and 2) adopt a resolution approving “Reimagining the Core” Plan, including the Planning Commission’s suggestions for recommended future actions.
Minute Order Number: 2026-145
Resolution Number: 6765-2026
Councilmember Hinton departed the meeting.
12. Adoption of City of Sebastopol Emergency Operations Plan Responsible Department: Police Chief
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda item is covered within existing budgeted salaries.
Additional Fiscal Impact: There is no additional fiscal impact with adoption of the Plan.
Police Chief Sean McDonagh presented the agenda item.
Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. The Council asked various questions of City staff.
Mayor McLewis opened the public comment period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public comment period:
Kyle
Oliver
Lee
Skip
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:
Council continued discussion of the item.
Mayor McLewis called for a motion.
MOTION:
Councilmember Zollman moved and Mayor McLewis seconded the motion to:
1. Adopt the updated Emergency Operations Plan; and
2. Direct the Chief of Police, as Director of Emergency Services, to maintain and update the plan as necessary.
Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.
VOTE:
Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Zollman, Vice Mayor Maurer and Mayor McLewis Noes: None
Absent: Councilmember Hinton
Abstain: None
City Council Action:
Minute Order Number: 2026-146
13. Approval of Special Event Fee Waivers – Micah’s Hugs. Fee Waiver has been requested in the amount of $275.00
Responsible Department: Public Works
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.
The fee that would be waived for this event amounts to $275.00 Public Works Superintendent Oriana Hart presented the agenda item.
Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. There were none.
Mayor McLewis opened the public comment period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public comment period: None
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:
Council continued discussion of the item.
Mayor McLewis called for a motion.
MOTION:
Councilmember Zollman moved and Councilmember Carter seconded the motion to approve Special Event Fee Waivers – Micah’s Hugs. Fee Waiver has been requested in the amount of $275.00.
Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.
VOTE:
Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Zollman, Vice Mayor Maurer and Mayor McLewis Noes: None
Absent: Councilmember Hinton
Abstain: None
City Council Action:
Minute Order Number: 2026-147
14. Consideration of Direction to Staff to review City Council Salaries. In 2023 the Governor signed SB 329 into law which increased the amount council members could be paid. Pursuant to California Government Code Section 36516, the maximum compensation for council members in a city with a population of under 35,000 is $950 per month. Thereafter, compensation may be increased annually by no more than the greater of either: 1) the percentage change in the Consumer Price Index since the last adjustment, or 2) 5% per year for each since the last adjustment. State law provides that compensation for council members may only be changed by ordinance. Additionally, any change may not take effect until a new term in office begins for at least one council seat. If Council supports this item, City staff will return with a proposed ordinance.
Responsible Department: City Attorney/Interim City Manager Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda item is covered within existing budgeted salaries.
Additional Fiscal Impact: Impact to General Fund for proposal would depend on the final salary. If the Council considers the maximum allowed, the new base pay would be $950 per month ($11,400 per year) per City Councilmember. If the Council chooses the full allowable increase, the change from $300 per month ($18,000 total annually for the full Council) to $950 per month would increase the total annual amount for the full City Council by $39,000, for a new total of $57,000 annually.
City Attorney Mog presented the agenda item.
Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. The Council asked various questions of City staff.
Mayor McLewis opened the public comment period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public comment period:
Lee
Kyle
Mary
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:
Council continued discussion of the item.
Mayor McLewis called for a motion.
MOTION:
Councilmember Zollman moved and Councilmember Carter seconded the motion that the City Council receive this report and provide direction to City Staff on City Council compensation increase allowable under State Law (SB 329). $950
Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.
VOTE:
Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Zollman, Vice Mayor Maurer and Mayor McLewis Noes: None
Absent: Councilmember Hinton
Abstain: None
City Council Action:
Minute Order Number: 2026-148
ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA: Two minutes per speaker for up to twenty (20) minutes total for public comments but can be reduced at Mayor’s discretion depending upon the number of speakers or Mayor has discretion to allow for additional time beyond the 20 minutes allocated for public comment dependent upon the subject matter or number of speakers.
The following member(s) of the public spoke during public comment for items not on the agenda: None COUNCILMEMBER(S) REQUESTS FOR FUTURE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS: None CITY COUNCIL/CITY STAFF REPORTS/COMMUNICATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/FUTURE MEETINGS:
15. City Manager and/or City Clerk Reports: (This will be either verbal reports at the meeting, or written reports provided at or prior to the meeting)
a. Monthly Departmental Reports
b. Agenda Review Committee Meeting Wednesday May 20th at 1:00 pm c. Update of ongoing projects
Reference Order Number: 2026-149
16. City Council Reports/Committee/Sub-Committee Meeting Reports: (Reports by Mayor/City Councilmembers Regarding Various Agency Meetings/Committee Meetings/Sub-Committee Meeting /Conferences Attended and Possible Direction to its Representatives (If Needed) on Pending issues before such Boards. ((This will be either verbal reports at the meeting, or written reports provided at or prior to the meeting)
17. Council Communications Received (Information/Meetings/Correspondence Received from the General Public to Councilmembers)
CLOSED SESSION: NONE
ADJOURNMENT OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING
May 19, 2026 City Council Regular Meeting was adjourned by Mayor McLewis at 8:45 pm to the next Regular City Council Meeting of Tuesday, June 2, 2026 at 6:00 pm, Sebastopol Youth Annex, 425 Morris Street, Sebastopol, CA.
Respectfully submitted:
Mary C. Gourley
Interim City Manager
Attachment 1: ZOOM Raw Minutes
Attachment 2: VITAC Real Time Transcription Minutes
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Mary, are we just about… okay. 2 00:02:28.950 --> 00:02:38.799
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, good evening, everyone. Apologies for the delay, we had some… couple things to ironout, but we're ready to go. Let's see, the first thing…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: we're going to do is do a call to order, but I just wanted to just say very quickly, if I happen to stand up, it's because I just had surgery a week ago, and occasionally I just feel like I need to stand up, and it seems a little odd in the middle of a meeting, but it's just because I had surgery and need to do that, so it may come as odd, but just put that out there. Go ahead, Mary.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. So this is for roll call. Councilmember Carter?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Here. Councilmember Zolman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer is remote?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: She's there on the screen right there. 7 00:03:11.660 --> 00:03:17.490
Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Do you, need me to read this, Just Cause or thing? 8 00:03:17.770 --> 00:03:19.010
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, please.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: So, I'm participating remotely for Just Cause under AB2449.
There is no one in the room with me, and I will participate through both audio and visual technology during this meeting.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Mayor McLewis? Here. And Councilmember Hinton is running late.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, so let's, we took care of remote participation, so now let's move on to Salute to the Flag, if you'll stand with me. 13 00:03:53.320 --> 00:03:54.000
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hi.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: States.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, thank you. The next thing that we do at every meeting is we have a land acknowledgement.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The City of Sebastopal acknowledges that we live and work within the unceded ancestral homelands of the Southern Pomo and Coast Miwok people. We pay our respect to the past, present, and future generation of these peoples, including the Federated Indians of Grayton Rancheria.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And as part of my year of being mayor, I always… every meeting, I bring forth just a little bit of a history piece. I work with Teresa Raimondo in our, in our West County Museum to bring this forth, and the reason we… 18 00:04:46.150 --> 00:04:50.569
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I feel like it's important is because sometimes we have items that come before us that actually came
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: years ago, different items, so I think it's always good for us to remember the history, and especially with our celebration coming up next year. So, with that said, I'm our city manager, we have some photos this time. This is about, actually, our library, since that's been a point of discussion in the, meetings recently, so I don't know.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: agree.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I can start reading while we're waiting on that.
That would be great. There you go. Okay. So, that's… can you go tothefirst ones, the Carnegie ones? That's the… that's…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Not the right.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh… What's the other page? 25 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:48.769
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the… the… It has fun. 26 00:05:50.300 --> 00:05:55.200
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: we're having a glitch with the sharing, because I'm sharing on my computer, it's not sharing up on the screen. Okay. 27 00:05:55.200 --> 00:06:14.070
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I have this information about what was called the Sebastopl Carnegie Library, located at 7140 Bodega Highway. It was built in 1916. What you're looking at there is after the current library was built, but built in 1916 of the style known as the Classic Revival C by Petaluma architect
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Brainerd Jones. The Carnegie Library was demolished in December 1975 to make way for the larger new Sebastop Library that we currently have today.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Carnegie Libraries were built with money donated by Scottish American
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Businessman and philanthropist Andrew Carnegie. More than 2,500 Carnegie libraries were built, including those belonging to public and university library systems. Of the 2,500 libraries funded between 1883 and 1929, 1,689 were built in the United States, and Sebasco was one of them. 31 00:06:48.580 --> 00:06:59.520
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In the early 20th century, a Carnegie Library was the most imposing structure in hundreds of small American communities. Most of the library buildings were unique, displaying a number of architectural styles.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Each was chosen by the community. California is second only to Indiana in the number of Carnegie libraries built with 142 to Indiana's 165.
So that's the picture up there of the previous library that we had, before we had… before the new one was built.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And we had those pictures up there initially, so I appreciate everyone indulging me and sharing that piece of information, and… 34 00:07:26.520 --> 00:07:44.669
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think we'll move on to the next item. The next thing is we don't have any proclamations or presentations this time, and I should say thank you to Teresa again for putting these history pieces together. I wanted to check to see if anyone here has statements of conflict of interest, and also let everyone know Councilmember Hinton is here now, so… any…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No, I apologize for being late, but I did let the City Manager know that I will have to depart tonight at 7.30 due to an important work commitment. Okay, no problem.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But no conflicts of interest,right? I didn't…okay, all right. So, with that, we will move on to public comment for items that are not on the agenda. So if you have a public comment up to 2 minutes, I'll turn it over to our city manager.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Mayor. So, again, this is public comment for items that are not on tonight's agenda. It is a 20-minute time limit. It is 2 minutes per person. We do chamberfirst,thengo out to Zoom, back to chamber, backto Zoom.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It is about 10 people, and then, we do have a second public comment period at the end of the meeting, so if you did not get to talk during the first public comment period, there is a second. So, I willcome toChambersfirst, if there's anyone that would like to make a public comment. 39 00:08:38.110 --> 00:08:40.130
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Please, come up to the podium. 40 00:08:41.030 --> 00:08:43.630
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I will jump in when you have about 20 seconds left.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: First of all, how is everyone today? 42 00:08:51.890 --> 00:08:52.759
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Would I hope.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So before I start today, I'll ask also of my business partner, Pete.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: After I speak. But, I'm Chris Austin, I'm from A&M Barbecue, and I wanted to come here today so that way I could meet all of you and kind of speak to you directly. So, I know I don't know a lot of you, but I'd like to take a moment, if it's okay, to kind of share who I am and
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: how long I kind of been around. So, I first came to this town in 2012. I'm married to Tiana Helton.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Linda Helton, formerly Linda Tai, so I've been in this community since 2012, where I coached at Anley. I've coached a lot of the kids. I worked at Coach's Corner, training elderly, also coaching and training there. 48 00:09:38.050 --> 00:09:46.859
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I've been in this community for a long time, doing a lot of work in the background, so, being a representative of A&M Barbecue today, I just wanted to let you know that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to not want to be a nuisance, to want to be actually a help to the community that you live in. That's how I was raised. So… 53 00:10:03.190 --> 00:10:20.809
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: being here today and speaking on what we do, and speaking on A&M Barbecue ever since we've been here in this town, that's all we try to ever be, is a help. We've never wanted to be a nuisance, we've never wanted to be a problem. We've always strived to do more, we donate, we make sure that we're at any charity events that we can possibly be.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, to hear some of the things in the… 55 00:10:24.460 --> 00:10:29.019
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that were written, it's not a great representation of who I actually am.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: As a person.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You have about 20 seconds. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, if anything has gotten out of here today, it's that we're here to be a service, and not a problem.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment. Next, I will go out to Zoom. Mariah, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Myriah Volk Chamber of Commerce: We couldn't do it without the support of the city, public works, the police department.
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Myriah Volk Chamber of Commerce: Mary, you've been a pleasure to work with, and special thanks to Council Members Hinton, Carter, Maurer, and Nick Lewis for your constant support of the festival. It means a lot to the Chamber, and the community as well. So, just, just wanted to hop on here with some gratitude.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Mariah. Next, I will come back into Chambers, if there's anyone in Chambers that would like to make a public comment for an item not on the agenda.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go back out to Zoom. Michael, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Michael Harris: Yes, thank you very much. I'm a resident of West County, and I wanted to thank the Council for last month's resolution marking Jewish American Heritage Month. In a place where the Jewish population is small, this recognition is quite welcome. 70 00:12:00.590 --> 00:12:25.580
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Michael Harris: If the Council had adopted a resolution for Arab American Heritage Month, and someone spoke out about the many human rights concerns in Arab countries, from slave trading in Mauritania and Libya, to massacres in Sudan, to oppression of LGBTQ people across the Arab world, I suspect that Councilmember Zolman would, quite appropriately, object to someone bringing these issues before the Council in the context of such a resolution.
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Michael Harris: Jewish American Heritage Month does not need to be accompanied by statements regarding the Jewish population elsewhere in the world. Thank you very much. 74 00:13:02.380 --> 00:13:07.999
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Michael, for your public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I want to speak more broadly to the agenda that we have tonight. The sheer volume of major issues that have kind of all collapsed into a single meeting of tonight. This following a number of meetings where we've had, 76 00:13:26.470 --> 00:13:48.660
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: what I would say, like, poor participation from city council members, where we've had lack of attendance from city council members, and that we've had kind of rushed-through, decision-making without what I would consider public, process. So, for example, we all love Mary, and Mary has been appointed as our city manager, but there was not an actual, search.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that used any sort of hiringcommittee to find. This council failed to securean agency to perform asearch. Part of the justification for acquiring an agency for performing a search for a city manager was to engage the public in a public Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you going ahead and appointed a city manager, and again, we all love Mary, but it's about process.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's about what this council values in terms of its engagement with the public. So tonight, you're gonna have these very heavy-hitting messages, or heavy-hitting agenda items, and it's gonna be very interesting to see your engagement with the public, right? How much do you include 80 00:14:35.700 --> 00:14:52.339
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: public comment into your consideration decision making? How visible is public consideration in your decision making? Because oftentimes, there's a lack of public participation, and there's a lack of public engagement, and that public engagement comes through
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: as disdain for public comment… Call you about 15 seconds. …making statements that are clearly indicating that public comment is not a part of the decision-making process, and really just not even responding to public comment through suggestions from your city attorney that that's not something that you should be doing.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will come back into chambers, if there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment for an item not on tonight's agenda.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed. 86 00:15:36.460 --> 00:15:38.210
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Next item we'll move on to is Consent Calendar.
So I'll read through all of these items, and then, check to see if anyone wants to pull anything.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, first item is approval of City Councilmeeting minutes of May5th, 2026. Second, number two, approval of receipt and adoption of fiscal year 26-27 City Council goals, priorities, and Tasks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Number 3, approval of second reading and adoption of ordinance for purchase of cameras for the Sebastopo Police Station Amendment for the safe house security system to be paid for from the Police Endowment Fund.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Number 4, fiscal year 26-27, Street Lighting Assessment District. Adopt a resolution of intention to levy and collect the annual assessments for the fiscal year26-27 for the City of Sebastopol Street Lighting Assessment District.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Preliminarily approving the annual engineer's Report and setting the date of the public hearing in accordance with provisions of the Landscaping and Lights Act of 1972.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Number 5. Approval of contract change order with 3 Team Gelati
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Order 3 with Team Gelati, Inc, approve a budget amendment for the Bodega Avenue Bike Lanes and Pavement Rehabilitation Phase 2 project.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For a total of project budget of $2,000… $2 million…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 673,600, and authorized City Manager to execute the amendment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Number 6, approval of resolution authorizing the California Urban Streams Partnership, CUSP, to prepare and submit a grant application to the California Natural Resources Agency Urban Greening Grant Program on behalf of the City. Grant funding would allow the design… would allow design work to begin on Phase 1 of the Calder Creek project.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Number 7, approval of pay rates and ranges related to the approved city manager employment agreement. Number 8, 98 00:17:28.560 --> 00:17:41.820
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Approval of renewal of agreement between the City of Sebastopal and Sonoma County Community Development Commission for administration of the Sebastopol Mobile Home Rent Stabilization Program, July 1, 2026 to June 30th.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 2027. Would anyone like to pull an item from The consent calendar.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Nope. Okay. All right. So, at that, if there are no comments, I guess we'll go to public comment, Mary. Thank you, Mayor. So this is public comment for the consent calendar items only. If you would like to make a public comment, again, it's the same as a public comment period. It is a 2 minutes per limit. 103
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: With Chambers first and Zoom second, so if there's anyone in Chambers that would like to make a public comment on the consent calendar items.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I'll go out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment on the consent calendar items only, please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, so back here, if we have a motion from anyone? I'll go ahead and move the consent calendar.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. So moved by Councilmember Zollman and seconded by Councilmember Carter to approve Consent Calendar Items 1 through 7.
Councilmember Carter?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Councilmember Hinton? Aye.
Councilmember Zollman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Mayor McLewis? Yes. Motion passes unanimously. Perfect.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you very much. Now we will move on to informational items and presentations.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: when we do these presentations, it's… they're 10 minutes, so I just want to put that out there for anyone who will be coming up to the podium for that. And the first one is number 9, Gravenstein Commons, informationalupdate from St. Vincent's de Paul, and I believe our city manager is responsible. Thank you, Mayor. 114
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, this is an informational report only. This is going to be an update on the Gravestein project… I'm sorry, Gravenstein Commons project, which is a 22-unit permanent supportive housing development, and is located at the north end of town at 845 Gravinstein Highway North.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This project has been led by the St. Vincent's de Paul Society, with the city as a partner in this project. 116
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In the attendancy project, this project targets highly vulnerable individuals for existing… exiting homelessness, and I do believe we have St. Vincent's de Paul representatives here to provide the update, so if you can come up to the podium…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Welcome this evening. Hello.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm Ron Plass, I'm the Acting Director of Operations at the Society of St. Visit de Paul District Council. 119
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This isthe first time for me to do this, so I'm a little bit not sure how you want to do it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: there's quite an extensive report that I understand is being shared by the… with the, with the Council that covers most of the items that 122
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The construction is going ahead quite well right now. We've had good weather. Contractor, actually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And it's actually… there's a picture on the last page that shows it welladvanced now from where it was, actually, where the roofing is being put on, and the… and the,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The downspouts and other… other items, so… 126
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: what else can I tell you that isn't already in here? I mean, it's over 60% complete.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, thank you. So then I guess what we'll do is we'll go to questions, so the Council will have questions for you here. 128
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, I'm sorry.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You had your hand up first? Question time. Yeah, question time.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, I was just gonna check with Mary to see if we have visibility ontheir finances, sothat when it is completed, we can see their operating costs and everything, like, as we discussed in many other meetings. We do, and we have our city consultant here, Robin Stefani, who can also address any of the questions financially.Shehasbeen workingwith themweeklyon theirfinancials,asfaraswiththeir bank accounts and things like that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So if we have direct questions, Robin's here to address them as well.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So there is oversight on that, but I think there are some questions about the vouchers and some other issues that I think may be a topic of conversation tonight.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead, Councilmember Zane. Yes, thank you for the report. A couple questions that I've been asked, to ask of you. So, as far as the Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Everything that I read in the report is that you're good, and that you have no fears of the capital part of your project, meaning the fact that you can leverage this, you can take out a loan of credit, that, etc. Is that still your experience? That's true, yes. Okay. That's a…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We'd like to not have to borrow any money, obviously.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But we have that backstop also. Okay, moving on to the operational part and what our general manager just keyed in on. 137
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What I have heard is that when you made the pitch to the.
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Mike Riera: Just for Bobby, I'll go through that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is that…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: what you're still relying on. We're still relying on that, and we do have a requirement because of the funding that we got from HomeKey to get our… the residents through the coordinated entry.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And the understanding is that vouchers will be, available to be able to fund the project.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We… this… this is in the… we're still discussing it with coordinated entry and that. That's not 100% right now. 144
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's not 100%, is what I've been told, because the reliance on the vouchers was misplaced by the people that I've heard from. They are very concerned about your operating model being solely based on vouchers. So, if the vouchers don't come through, what is your plan?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, for one thing, we've got a… we've got funds in the… in the… alreadyon hand to be able tooperate for the first two years, so… And those funds are where? Because I've reviewed the financials, too. What are you relying on? Well, it was $600,000 that was put… put away
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To be able to operate it in worst-case scenario. 147
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: $600,000 of your money, or what money are you talking about? That's part of the funding out of the Homekey funds. 148
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And we are working with Coordinated Entry to be able to… to secure, residents with vouchers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The other concept is, I mean,there's an off-site… off chance also that there might be residents that havevouchers in their hands that they own themselves that could actually want to move.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to a newer facility that has more space in it. This is… this is actually the size of the residence
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Units are a little over 400 square feet, which actually makes them quite spacious.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Not to mention, they're brand… gonna be brand new. So… That's not…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Full dependence, but that's part of the possibility.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, I have others, but I don't want to hog the space. Anyone else? Because I have some whenever.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, in the past, when I had a meeting with Mr. Jack Tibbetts, he brought all kinds of documents about… I hear what you're saying about you have some funding set aside, but he brought all kinds of documents to me about different properties that you have for collateral, so I just want to make sure those are still in your possession. Sure, yes, we haven't sold any properties in… 157
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Probably a decade. Okay, that was a question I had.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead. Yes, I just… my other third question that I've been asked to ask of you is, given the shift of policy perspective from the federal government around not supporting permanent supportive housing and supporting other types of housing, how do you feel that you're going to be able to navigate that new change? 159
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's something we're still working on. I… I'll be very honest, I could try to sugarcoat it, but I'm not gonna, because it is still… it is a concern of ours.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And how will… how will these policy changes stay in effect? And it doesn't affect only us, it affects all of the permit-supportive housing models in the… in the state, and probably multiple states. 161
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That leads to the next question, because there's only 7 permanent supportive housing projects in the county, so given this massive potential and likely shift of federal policy, are you working together with others? Are you working together? Sure, working with them and the county, also. Okay. 162
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But who specifically have you been workingwith to try to navigate these new waters? Have you been in touch with West County Community Services? Haveyoubeen in touch with COTS? Whospecificallyhaveyoubeen working with?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll admit, I haven't been, because I'm fairly new in what I'm doing. So, that's got… that is actually more of a future in our way of doing things, or… not in doing things, but in having to work with it and pivot to these new changes from the federal government.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But we are working with the county coordinated entry system and how we…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Worked through this, this change in the federal government policies.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, I have others, but… I have a question. In the absence of Jack Tibbetts running this, which…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Working with the contractors and working with the rest of the council. Because Jack is out of state now, is that correct? In Oregon? Okay. 171
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm referring… you referred tothe staff report and the fact that this was going to answer all of our questions, well, a lot, just based on what's typed here. Page, 3, where it says selection criteria, because that's primarily the reason why we asked you to come here, because you're planning on sticking bodies in the premise come…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, because that's not what's in this report, but primarily what I want to get to is page 3, where it says selection criteria, where it says residents are primarily selected
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: through the Sonoma County's Coordinated Entry System. Did you use that word, or who used the word primarily? 177
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Actually, we've… my understanding from reading the documents with the home key, we're getting all of them through coordinated entry. Dr.
Primary is not… It's not correct. Yeah, right. It's exclusively. You must take them through coordinated entry.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because the last time there was a representative from yourorganization,it sounded like there was a potentialthat city staff, maybe someof us, could sit at a table, and we could talk about who actually could move into the property.
That actually is not correct. It'd be nice, but no. Okay. The Home Key Fund's contract prevents it from…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: going that direction. Okay, I just want to make clear about that. I have others, but… Well, I just wanted to clarify. So you're saying that was an incorrect information that we were given last time, despite the fact that we asked the same questions over and over again, and we're reassured that that's how it was. 180
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: From my understanding right now, it all goes through coordinated entry.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so misinformation. Okay, anyone else before? Go ahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, just to follow up on that point, because I know I made comment on it, I don't remember it exactly like that. I do remember the question being asked.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I don't recall the promise being made. And I did want to ask about a point of order, because I have limited time tonight. This is a 10- minute presentation, so I just want to watch the clock. I don't know… Well, it doesn't Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, so for the members of the public, where it states here that your intention of providing lots and lots of supportive services, the people that you list here, none of them are licensed, correct? They're not licensed mental health clinicians? They're not licensed, trained mental health… 188
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay. For the public, What's typed here is for voluntary participation in programs.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That means that with Housing First, you could put people in the units, and you could offer services for days and on,right? But they can always just say no. Yes, they've got their own rights. They've got personal rights that they've got to… 191
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, you're also familiar with what this community just went through in reference to Elderberry Commons, right? Correct. So, I would imagine… I'm not fully… I can't say that I have a full knowledge of what happened with Elderberry Commons, but I am familiar with it. And so you would probably think that we would not want to go through that again, correct? I would think so. Okay, so what are you going to do to help us not have Elderberry Point 2?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I believe part… part of it is ours is gonna be… have a gate and, fencing around it. I don't believe Elderberry does. 193
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so there's controlled access of the residents and other staff coming in and out, and visitors.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So that's, I think, a big change. Okay, and what about video? Oh, and… Wait a second, and who is this here? Sorry, we have an order, so I just want to make sure.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This is, Uriel Brana, who's our Housing Director at the… currently managing the, the St. Vincent Point Commons in Santa Rosa, and will be over this… this site also. I see, okay. Okay. I just don't want another presentation, because we already did that, so I don't know if… unless someone has questions for you. 196
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, I just wanted to comment on that question, as I have that answer?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is that okay? To what question I had? What are we… what will… what are we doing different than other permanent supporting housing sites? In particular, Elderberry Commons, because this community barely survived that, so that's my… Yeah, I will not comment on the operation of other providers, but one thing that I can tell you is that some Vincent Paul Commons in Santa Rosa 198
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's an open-gate community, and we have not had any big incidents.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There, besides our case management work, we also provide residents with many
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: life meaning programs that change their lives. For example, we have at some Interpol Communes a program called Job Readiness Program, where we hire residents to cook meals for unhoused members of our community. So we're planning to mimic all of our programs at some Interpol Communes at 201
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, the follow-up question, now I'm confused.
So you're having it be gated and locked, or it's open gate. So, which of the two? The one here in Sebasto is gated.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's gated, and there will be control over who gets in and out. The key disc can't be sent to just anyone, right? Correct. It's actually code. Okay, and so getting to the cameras, you're going to have cameras? Correct. And they're going to be all around the premise, right?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And they're going to be accessible by law enforcement if they need it, right? Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Going to the good neighbor policy, this was discussed when Jack was here. I heard him say, at a ribbon cutting, that he would be good with having you abide by a pending good neighbor policy that our city attorney is drafting. 206
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Do you want to continue honoring that, or what? Be welcome to lookat it and see how we can afford… how we can workwith him. Okay, and as far as a council advisory, because it sounds like you're referring to another property, they do have resident advisory group. Are you having that at this one? Yes. 207
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I appreciate you answering these questions, because as someone who receives nearly every email that comes from our other permanent supportive housing, Elderberry Commons, I am quite aware of the amount of time, so that I put in a lot of time with that, so I appreciate you answering these questions.
Does anyone else have any questions?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you very much. We're gonna probably go to public comment now, so you can go ahead and have a seat, if you… You can have a seat right now. We're gonna do public comment, and then it'll come back to the… 211
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: either receipt, more discussion, or we'll receive the report. So this is for public comment for the St. Vincent's de Paul, Gravestein Commons project. If you would like to make a public comment, 2-minute time limit, we come toChambers first, and then go, out to Zoom. Laura? 212
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Just a point of information, which is that Elderberry Commons is a gated, locked facility with a code.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Unfortunately, unless there is someone there at the gate signing people in and out.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Laura, for your public comment. Next, I'll go out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment, to please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Thank you for the presentation. It's an absolute disgrace that Jack Tibbetts is not on the screen talking to us. You know, my understanding… I spoke to James Nantell, who runs St Vincent de Paul 218
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: big problem, and I would personally really like to see Jack Tibbetts speak about this, because I feel like he… James Nantell was very clear that he was continuing to lead this project, and he stood here last year, saying he would be running this project throughout.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We'revery, very close to the wire financially on this. The city made some pretty foolish decisions, in my opinion, underwriting this. So we're in a very tight spot, and I don't think these numbers… I mean, frankly, I don't believe the numbers. I'd really like to see…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: formal evidence that these numbers are in place, based on what I've heard from some of the county people I know in the homeless services.
It's just not good enough, and I feel bad for you guys that you've been dropped into the deep end with this. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, it will come back into chambers, if there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment. 225
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed on this item.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you very much. So we're back here at the dais for comments, if anyone has a commentfirst?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just wanted to say to, I guess, address the last speaker, I mean, I didn't vote for this and support it because of Jack Tibbetts. I voted for it to support this housing style, and we do have a very successful project. 230
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That was built by St. Vincent de Paul over by St.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay. Well, I have a comment. I just want to say that while… I appreciate all the questions, because for just people who don't know, this is a very… this was a split council on how this got passed. So that's why the questions, that's why the concern, and it's always important for all of us to have these discussions, and to… to have our questions answered, because we were not all in agreement, and we had a 3-2 vote, so… and, so I appreciate
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: everyone, you know, being patient while questions are asked. I do want to express that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: While some people had faith in various people, we had Mr. Tibbetts here telling us.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: his personal promises, all of these things, that he was going to be here all the time, he was going to be present, because I had many doubts about this, and I have many doubts about this project, and concerns based on the fact that we have a project that's right here in town that has had many, many problems, and I, again, I receive
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: so many emails from residents there about all the challenges, and I've spent agreat deal of time with the county andtrying to figure this out, so these questions, in my opinion, are very founded based on the experience, because we both serve… I serve as the alternate, and we both serve, as the homeless liaison 239
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Here, so we… we… we have intimate knowledge of the challenges that everyone's facing, and so I just wanted to appreciate that you came here and answered these questions. I understand that it's not easy for you, because 240
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Jack isn't here, and it seems as though he was, like, the, you know, the main person for so long doing this, and it's just disappointing to have him step out after making so many promises, and it's frustrating to me because I just…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: we can't go back and forth at this point, I'm sorry.
So, I just want to say I appreciate you coming here and answering those questions in spite of, you know, how everything is, and I just hope.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that the finances actually work out, and I see that we have, Vice Mayorthat wants to make acomment as soon as I'm finished here. So, go ahead, Vice Mayor.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Okay, I just wanted to echo what Councilmember Hinton said, and thank St. Vincent de Paul for presenting tonight, and for their work serving the homeless community. So, I feel gratitude and hopeful that this project will work out and work for the best for all. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so I guess we'll just receive this item, and we'll close that out and move on to the next item.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Let me just catch my bearings here in my pages.
Sorry, I've lost my… Alright.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, we will move on to item 10. Development… let me look here.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Development Agreement Annual Report, Barlow Hotel. Oops, we just asked if we could have it quiet back there. It's very distracting. 251
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The development agreement annual report, Barlow Hotel Annual Report for the development agreement is required by state law and the DA itself. City staff will provide information on timeline of development agreement and what would happen upon expiration of development agreement. Annual report is due each June.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I believe our planning department is gonna do that? Yes, thank you, Mayor.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And ensure that the applicant is acting in good faith compliance with the terms of that agreement.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There's a letter attached toyour staff report from Aldridge Development that represents the 2026 development agreement update for the Barlow Hotel.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you approve that development agreement in 2025. This information is… or this item is scheduled as informational only. If you were to find that the applicant is not acting in goodfaith compliance underthe terms of the agreement, then we would need to schedule a public hearing that we'd need to go to the Planning Commission and back here.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Again, no City Council actions to be taken at this time. There is mention of a transient occupancy tax consideration, a split… consideration of a transient occupancy tax split mentioned by the developer in the letter and report that they've submitted.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: schedule. The applicant would need to apply to amend the development agreement, and we would need to bring that through the analysis and hearing process for you to actually consider that. But I believe there's some 261
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: discussion that can happen tonight, and before I turn it over to the applicant, I'll let Alex… Yeah, thanks, Jane. The Council can certainly make
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: create the guardrails that are needed, so… Okay, was there any other… who's doing…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's it, and the applicant is here to make a presentation. Icouldn't understand what you said. That's it for my staff report. The applicant is here to make a presentation. Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We've been working very hard on getting this hotel both designed forconstructionand finance, and it's a lot easier to paypeople to design a hotel than it is to get people to invest or fund a hotel, especially in this market. 271
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Of all of the, real estate categories, hospitality is the… In the least favor.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: On kind of a nationwide basis, and wine country hospitality is in its own special difficulty.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I… I talk to lenders and, potential partners.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Many times over the months, I've made some good progress.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And the goodwill that we've generated here in the town with the Barlow, the success that we've had.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But, we kind of need to pull everybody in. You know, I've had to, I've had to pull in my relatives. I've had to pull in, my partners. There's nobody from the outside is gonna fund this hotel. So,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the debt that's been available to us that meets our needs is at 11%. We underwrote the hotel at, like, 7.5, 7 and 3 quarters percent. So, you know, the… you've heard about private debt markets, and that's really all that's available.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We've had one term sheet, at a lot less than we needed.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, we may have one or two bank options still out there, but it's difficult, and we're focused on closing with the debt fund at 11%, which is really difficult. So our request to thecity is, help us help you. Wedon't need a handout, but we're hoping that you'll, agree to
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, refund back half of the TOT tax that we can generate over the next 10years. It's a verydifficult thing to open up a market that doesn't exist, if it's, you know.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: An existing, tourist market, where there are already hotels with track records.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it's amuch easier thing to finance. When you're the first hotel into a market, it's very difficult, especially a smallmarket like this, and especially in wine country right now, when it's difficult times in the winebusiness. So, 288
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We are actively continuing to spend money to keep our project on schedule.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And it won't be the first time that I've invested with that type of trust.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I can answer any questions you have. I just hope you might read the… the request that we sent. There were a lot of facts in there. I didn't make this up. It was recommended to me. I've never had, you know, I've never developed a hotel, and I… and I have not…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: heard of this thing, but I started looking into how have hotels been developed in… in small markets that have no history of tourism like ours. 293
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, the city of Dublin, the city of North Lake Tahoe.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Coachella Valley, the city of Temecula, recently, very recently, the city of Morgan Hill, the city of Long Beach, all these cities have recently supported hotel developer with a split for a certain period of time. A good hotel in this beautiful town, with two-way streets.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: should be something very successful for many, many years, but… but creating a market out ofnothing is a difficult thing. So, 297
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I hope you'll read our request and consider it when it comes before you, and I'm happy to answer any questions. 298
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the term is folk, first of a kind,and I totally get the chickenoreggproblem that you're going through, and I've been thinking about how to fix Sebastopol for this exact reason. It's one of the reasons why I thought asoccerfieldwould be nice to bring in people, you know, to have a reason to have a hotel. 303
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But… One thing that strikes me as, like. 304
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: when you ask… when you make this ask, could some portion of that ask, literally, you know, like, 2 or3%, be dedicated to a specific marketing campaign to get more people here that would both help you? Yeah. 305
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: is in excess of a million dollars per year, and we're advertising Sebastopol, West County, to get people to come here. We're not just saying, here's a hotel, we're saying, here's a place to come visit, you know? And I think another thing that's important is, yes, we could agree to bolster our marketing budget with money back from the city, and
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But in addition to that, we did a study, and I think most of you had an opportunity to read it, and if not, it's available. 308
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the city of Sebastopol from the hotel guests, based on not me, but
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: very smart people who we hired and paid a lot of money to figure out what would the spend be annually in downtown Sebastopol, and the answer to that question is $23 million a year of new credit card swipes from people visiting the hotel, which I think would be amazing for this little town to keep all of our choices that we have available.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you so much, we appreciate it. Arnie can sit down. Sure, okay, thanks. Public comment, thank you. So this is, for public comment for the informational item on the Barlow Hotel. If you would like to make a public comment, again, it's a two-minute public comment. We do chambers first, and then go out to Zoom if there's anyone in chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hello, my name is Bronwyn Shears, resident since 1970 and current business owner in downtown Sebastopol. 315
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I heard a lot about bringing tourists in, and that is… that is a market that is an,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Untapped, so to speak, as you were saying.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: already here, so it's not the first of its kind that would draw folks here, and I have to… I feel like I want to remind people that what brings people to Sebastopol is not necessarily marketing a fancy hotel, but it is the hometown feel that is here.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Locals owning businesses, creating these, spaces that where community is important, And,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: one-on-one conversation when you're doing all these things is incredibly important. So I don't think it's a first, necessarily. We do have a hotel here, we had two at one time. But I think it's important that we remember what actually brings people to Sebastopol.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There's a Go Local program that has been around for many, many years, and it became defunct, and then it kind of came back, and it brought people in.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I would like to see you, Barney, things that you do here in the town really do support people coming to Sebastopol. 323
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I would like to see that there is some sort of local element to that. Would there be local discounts if a local family was having people coming into the city to stay? And could they get a discount? Healdsburg just did a huge wine and art festival, and they offered discounts to Healdsburg residents to come tothat event, and it was amazing. Probably in a lot of 20 seconds. There were a lot of Sebastopol businesses.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thanks for being there, A&M Barbecue. I was there as well, fortunately. However, those are the kinds of things that I think you as the Council and us as a communityneed to offer to local residents. Affordability, so people aren't being…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: priced out of this place that we love so dearly, and that I am struggling to maintain my residency here.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment. Next, I will go out to Zoom. Kyle, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Kyle Falbo: Yes, I can.
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Kyle Falbo: Reporting is estimated that it costs New York City more than $400 million in foregone
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Kyle Falbo: Public revenue. That's the risk here. When a city gives away tax revenue, that's what this is.
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Kyle Falbo: If the hotel succeeds, the developer benefits. If the city rebates away the tax revenue, the public loses money that could have supported roads, public safety, parks, infrastructure, housing, other community needs.
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Kyle Falbo: TOT is not the developer's money. It's public revenue, generated because visitors are staying in our community.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Kyle, for your public comment. Next, I will come into Chambers. Oliver? Thank you. Yeah, I think… I'm sure this will work with some horse trading.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the previous, presentation, we used to have a hotel here, which was called the Sebastable Inn. At the time that the county basically bought it for HomeKey, it has just been absolutely crammed full of people escaping from fires. That hotel was kind of crappy, but it couldhave been easily upgraded, but now it's gone, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The only hotel we have here is the Marriott, which is really a business hotel, and it's nowhere near downtown. And now we're talking about Gravenstein Commons being built, which is going to add a lot of pressure on our local police and services and so on. So from a council perspective, I think there's some very big decisions here. We've got a couple of councillors who
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think it's great that St Vincent de Paul are kind of shambling along and doing whatever they're doing to help a few random people from coordinated entry. And then we've got Barney, who wants to spend a huge amount of money
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: there's a lot of risk building in an unproven market in a very difficult economic climate. So there's a middle ground here, and I think it's really, you know, I know Phil is very keen on business development and business gardening and so on. It's critical to me that the Council kind of put their grown-up suit on and kind of think about this from a business perspective, and stop thinking that the Council's money is just to be kind of given away to
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The needy and so on, which is, you know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, to me, you know, there has to be some serious negotiation between the city and this prospective hotel. Otherwise, we're going to have two never-never hotel developments downtown. We're going to have two vacant patches of land which sit there, and people are going to drive through Sebastopol. 348
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: can't wait to get out of the city, because they're just going through the crossroads, and Sebastopol's nothing. 349
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We have to change that dynamic, otherwise all the local businesses will die. So…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Big, big moment for the Council, I think. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Oliver, for your public comment. Next, I'll go back out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment on the informational item, please raise your hand virtually. 352
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will come back into chambers, if there's anyone in chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed. 354
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, thank you, we're back at the dais for anyone who has comments.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just want to respect the Keep It Local comment, and yeah, Barney, if you can do anything to make the local businesses good, like, if we can market with the downtown, or somehow kind of coordinate, that would be great.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I definitely want to, you know, put the seed in there that…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, I was just gonna say the comment on the Go Local, it's unfortunate that I received an email from them this week that they actually are closing the Go Local. So just… it's challenging right now for everybody. So, does anyone else have comments?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay. I couldn't tell… I can't hear. I can't hear you.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Yeah, I was trying to mute it. Anyway, can we take a short bio break?
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Or I could…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, yeah, we can, yeah. Yeah, so, how about 5 minutes?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Perfect.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We're gonna get started here in just a minute, once everyone kind of settles down here. I'm sorry it's so warm in here, we're trying to manage that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, is it okay if we get going, or… Okay, alright, let's get going. Number 11.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This is our, public hearings, and where we'll take discussion or… we'll have discussion and our action. Number 11 is adoption of the downtown STG project. Review and adopt the proposed plan to convert both Petaluma Avenue and Main Street to two-waytrafficwith theinclusion of pedestrian safety improvements, and this is planning.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Mayor. Yes, this is also mine.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I'm gonna let Jeff Rubendahl, our, consultant with Farron Piers, take over and do his presentation in just a second. I wanted to… 381
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: He'll… he'll cover what the Planning Commission talked about, what we've done since we last talked to you. I wanted to point you towards the resolution that we're asking you to adopt tonight.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Confirmingcompletion ofthework program that's associated with the Caltrans Sustainable Transportation Planning Grant, which is what allows us to get paid.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Adopting the Reimagining the Core Plan is the guiding policy and planning document for future downtown corridor planning, funding, environmental review, design, and implementation activities. Is there any way you could… it's just hard with that fan going, it's really hard to hear you. Maybe get close to the mic, or… it's just… Yes, thank you for letting me know. Yeah.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Directing staff to continue coordination with Caltrans, the SCTCA, the Sonoma County, regional partners, businesses, property owners, and the community to advance a coordinated corridor-wide implementation strategy that's consistent with the plan's recommendation.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Direct staff to consider establishment of a community advisory group or a similar engagement process to support ongoing community involvement.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And to pursue funding, technical studies, environmental review, partnership opportunities, and so on. The plan doesn't… does include some short-term implementation actions that we'd like your direction on. And with that, I'm going to turn it over to Jeff.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We can't hear you, if you can turn on… Hello? There you go. Hello. So you have 10 minutes?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you so much, I'll jump right into it. So tonight, I'm going to go over a quick overview of what we've discussed previously, as well as what we heard from the Planning Commission, walk over… walk through the preferred alternative, the walkable two-way, discuss the bike study that you all asked us to do last time, and then do a run-through of the implementation strategy. 390
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So first, a quick overview, just to kind of echo what's been in the report, is really, we want to just confirm that the study has been completed, so that Caltrans can issue its final completion of thegrant. 391
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We also ask you to adopt the plan that includes the vision we'vediscussed, to really empowerstaff to advance these ideas and seek the funding and coordination needed to advance the ideas, and really just revisit and commit to community partnership, because nothing can be built, studied, or implemented without support from the city.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: As a reminder, last time we were asked to study the new alternative, the preferred alternative, to the same level as the rest of the previous alternatives, study putting bike facilities or protected bike facilities on Main, and to develop the plan document, which we've included as part of our code. 393
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: materials to you all. So, a walkthrough of the preferred alternative. We've advanced the design a little bit and done an additionaltraffic operations analysis. We really want to echo that this really makes Main Street the place. It's the place we want people to come to, gather, and really interface with the downtown businesses, and that includes all of the transportation choices that come with it. 394
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Petaluma Avenue and McKinley is really designed for movement. It's getting cars through, it's getting cyclists through, and folks that aren't coming to partake in the downtown to get to their destinations. You can't have one street do both movement and place. It's really messy, and it's not really good at either when you try to split them that way.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To show that in a picture, we've got a… we want to just talk through the transformation of Main Street that this plan includes. Right now, today, there's multi-lanesoftraffic,allone-way southbound, with narrow sidewalks on each side of the street.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In a cross-section that looks like this. As you can see, a lot of lanes. This, again, is Main Street in between McKinley and Bodega. 397
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In a network level, this means taking the through bicycle facilities around the two blocks of downtown, but really fortifying and reinforcing the east, west, and north-south bike connections to the existing trails, to proposed trails, and reallyconsistentwith theactivetransportation plan thatwasfinalized lastyear. 399
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This graphic here just quickly shows the amount of sidewalk widening, including in this preferred alternative. It widens all the sidewalks in the downtown core next to businesses by at least 5 feet, and brings it all up to current complete street safety design standards per Caltrans.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: By combining the walkable nature and the twoway configuration, it scored higherthanall of the other four alternatives that we've identified.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And the way we've laid it out, it meets all of Caltrans' applicable design standards, which makes it easier to get Caltrans approval. It's not easy, it's just when you're using their design standards, it makes it a little easier to be approved.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Moving on to, one of the side studies we did that helped inform this was this… the request to look at dedicated, protected bike facilities on Main Street. What we found kind of boils down to a trade-offbetweenthree things that we want, but only two canfit.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's on-street parking, wider sidewalks for areas like outdoor seating and other amenities, and dedicated bicycle facilities through the downtown… on Main Street.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What we looked at was of the critical block of Main Street between Burnett and Bodega. This is the existing depiction of what's out there today.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We're maintaining one lane in each direction, and then the sidewalks, at least as they are today, which is about 10 feet, and kind of went through, what does it look like if you don't have parking? You'd have space for people biking, space for amenities like outdoor seating, but you don't have any on-street parking. 409
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Then we looked at a version that doesn't have the outdoor seating component, that would include things like a parking protected bike facility.
Doesn't really widen the sidewalks, but it does maintain the parking and puts in bikeways in both directions.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Then the third one is without bike lanes, that includes amenities on both sides of the street, as well as on-street parking on both sides of the street for that core two blocks. And this is the preferred alternatives main street configurationthatwe'reshowingin ourdesign that'sincluded in theplan. Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sonow the big fun stuff is, how do we get there? What is the implementation strategy to take this into the Caltrans planning and approval process?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There's several different types of projectsthat… and project elements that get built, broken out into these… there's pedestrian and streetscape improvements, there's bikeway, pathway improvements, there's traffic signal equipment, hardware, and software upgrades that are needed. 413
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There's the two-way conversion of the entire roadway network, as well as other elements outside of the downtown core that would be needed to complement a two-way conversion. You can't just change one block to two-way, you gotta take it all the way down and all the way north to where it's… it goes back to twoway. 414
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So recognizing that you don't have to do all of these at once, but you do have to do some before the others, or some in conjunction with others.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Next question is, how do we deliver it? In order to deliver something like this, it requires involvement from Caltrans, SCTCA, other agency partners, as well as a commitment from the city and the community to move this forward. 416
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It really requires to, in order to get through the planning process, to really integrate it into countywide and regional transportation plans as the future configuration that we'reworking towards, and really continueadvancing the lowhanging fruit, the safety improvements, the things that demonstrate to the community and to others that we are really
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Moving forward with the, you know, making downtown a more vibrant, safer place for people to be.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And last one being, you know, continuing to work with the community.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Next question is, how do we position… how do we best position ourselves for funding? This is not a… this is… this will require funding from severaldifferent,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: places. We really want to understand phasing the project in a strategic way that capitalizes on the grant programs that are available at the regional level, state level, and federal level. There's no… we do know some of the big funding opportunities and how this project would fare, but there's… they don't… they sometimes come in different… in different order. So just really allowingstaff to be opportunistic about what is… what is available.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To do the things that are consistent with this whole, proposed project.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Really leveraging existing programs such as the CIP, maintenance programs, and other development projects that, you know, are putting in money into off-site improvements, making sure that it's consistent with this overall vision. 423
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: How do we stay accountable? It's really important, both as a city and as an elected body, to really maintain the community partnership component of this, make sure that we're coordinated across all the departments, so that everybody's kind of rowing in the same direction, and really 424
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Maintain the commitment to this vision through all of the other business that's in front of us, to make sure that we're understanding how this fits in the grand scheme of things, of moving towards that two-way walkable downtown.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Last slide here, a lot of words. This is just a summary of the action that we're asking. Five, five things. One, affirm that the preferred alternative
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: meets the vision that we've discussed and approved before. Consider allocation of some funds to advance this process, both with Caltrans, SCTCA, and other partners to really start seeking those funding opportunities. 427
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: empower and direct staff to pursue a phased approach that really meets the targets that are in this plan, and really coordinate with Caltrans, SCTCA, and our regional partners.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And really, I continue to advocate and pursue external funding, because this is not going to be paid for solely by the city, but it really takes those grant programs that this project checks all those boxes to be a really good candidate in a lot of ways.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So with that, 2 seconds to spare, I'll… I'll answer any questions you guys might have. Thank you. Do we have questions here? 430
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just want to make sure we get back to the screen so we can see our Vice Mayor as well. If not, I have questions. 431
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay. Did you?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, definitely? Okay, I just want to make sure we can see.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Do you want me to unshare the presentation? We'll leave it up. Pardon me?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Do you want me to take on sharing? If you can stop sharing, because we can't see our Vice Mayor, she actually has questions, too. Okay.
I… I have some questions for you, and in that last… in that last slide, you had, you know, allocate funds to make this happen. Can you remind all of us what those funds would be needed to advance this? One of the steps in there was… So, there are a lot of additional studies and design that would need to be advanced, and
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: effort to actually seekthe funding and… Right, I understand. I'm just trying to understand the financial piece of it, like, how much doyou estimate that all that costs?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We haven't done a detailed estimate of all the different things that weneed to do, but we can… it's a lot of little things that add up toa big… Well, for a financially strappedcity, I think it's important for us tounderstand, in order to make a proper decision, how much that actually costs. I don't have that number, but we can come up with something. And then the other question I have is. 437
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you had said to direct staff, and I don't recall the exact wording. Was it, like, you wanted a staff person that could do all that, or one person to do all that, or did I misread that? It was moreto confirm that staffshould go seek funding, and that they are successful at seeking that funding to spend said funding on 438
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: plan… planning, design, whatever, implementation. Got it, because it was quick, and I was trying to make a note of that. So you're just looking for staff to… for us to direct staff to… to actually go to that. And thenif… I guess the finalquestion I have is this, asfaras grants, I'm very familiarwith the grant world, beingin thenonprofitworld.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: How many cities have actually brought something… a project of this
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The success rate, I can't really speak to, but it is a large multi-year project. At the beginning, or one of the earlier discussions, we talked about something in the 5-15 year time frame, depending on what the preferred alternative is, and what the
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the environmental process through Caltrans would require. I think 10 to 15 years for full realization of everything is the timeline. I think Sebastopol, being that we are at the commitment to safety, to environmental stewardship, and business vitality, is a very strong candidate for competitive funding in transportation Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: of these studies and allthat stuff that you have to do expire, and then they have to be repeated, and I'm just wondering, I don't know if… 444
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Not explicitly. So the big… the big study that happens in the Caltrans vernacular is… it's called a PSR PDS. That's where, through Caltrans, you would study this… everything that we've studied to a much more level of… granular level of detail, and do this environmental clearance. That process, SCTCA is a partner and has done that with several other cities within Sonoma County. 445
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: When we met with them a few weeks ago, they were fully supportive of this project meeting, kind of, the requirements and eligibility of a project of this magnitude to be successfully implemented over time. 446
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then I guess I have more questions than I thought. We've received a number of different communications about this, andone that I've seen more than a handful of times is the lack of study regarding all the left turns that are going to happen, and the backup that's going to happen, because Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, it's not uncommon to sit through 3-plus lights in the… in midday here in the city when you already have multiple lanes heading south, and so we've received that more than once, you know, saying that that wasn't even assessed, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: How do you respond to that? What is the answer to that? Yes, we did do traffic operations analysis as part ofthis study.We looked at all of the traffic signals, and all of the reallocation of
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: of people that are currently driving through Sebastopol today, and we analyzed those signalized intersections for all 5 of the alternatives we identified, and what we found is that some of them have level of service 450
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: F and whatnot. This is one of the only ones that is level of service E or better in all signalized intersects. Can you define what that means? 451
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: in a vibrant downtown that has traffic, but it's bustling, L-O-S-D-N-E is what you would want to see, to have that hustle and bustle of folks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anything morethanthat is free flow andfastmoving cars. Anything LOSF or worse is, like, standstill. So what we modeled, given the volumes that wecollected, is that theseconfigurations withthe trafficsignal phasing that would be needed to operate those two-way… all both streets as two-way streets, would have…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Level of service and queuing consistent with what you would want in a vibrant downtown setting.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And indoing all ofthis, when you're figuring all these things out, did you take into account, you know, we're going to have a lot of new people living here because of our canopy project, and our Woodmark apartments that have not been… you know, we have a number of these projects that are going on that are going to increasethenumberof carsand traffic.Wasallof thattaken intoaccount? 455
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We did look at the future travel demand model at the county level to see how the changes in downtown would change the 456
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the network of the broader Sonoma County region, and it was negligible. We did not do a…But you look broader. I'm asking specifically for right here. We did not do a future cumulative analysis here, because it was not required for the Caltrans grant.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But that is part of the deeper Caltrans process, is to do a more, a longer end-year analysis of what
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: what the intersections, how they would… how the downtown would operate. Okay, thank you. Anyone else?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Vice Mayor? Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead. I love the meshing together of everything. It was quite complicated when we left it last, and this seems like a really tied-together plan that would be, acceptable to Caltrans, and I know that Caltrans has kind of been handing out,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Handing out's a bad term. 461
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, is there, and I'm a systems person, so, like, this seems to, like, fit in our system. Are they… when you were planning this withthem, did you kind of, like, have that discussion? Like, this is part of the… the greater movement of people and things and…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: two parts to that. Caltrans has been involved, but not inthe weeds like we have been with staff and with community members. Caltrans does have a prioritization of safety over operations. So if some… so, like, what's happening up in Katahdi, which is analogous to this scenario, was that the city and the community were looking for a signal, but Caltrans had definitive data that showed a roundabout would be safer than a signal.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: no matter… and Caltrans would say, we cannot say yes to something that we know there is a safer alternative that we're asking you to study. So what…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What I do think happens in that Caltrans process is roundabouts will be evaluated.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and looked at how big are they, how they would actually operate, and what is the safety outcome of that versus what's out there as a signal today or not as a signaltoday. I don't thinkthat it's not off the table. 467
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I think what we've included in the downtown core is optimizing thethree traffic signals and potentiallyother intersection traffic control devices, like integrating the pedestrian hybrid beacon at McKinley and Laguna Park into something
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That'sa little different thanthat, because that wouldn't work with the two-way.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And just a little bit of a follow-up with the steps that we're about to go through. When we authorize, or…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: or if we, you know, say, like, let's go forward with this, and then there's some incremental, you know, future movement, some of the things, like tying Joe Rodota to Ives could be…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: done without the major road work, or, you know, some things like parkingettes and things like that that might be, you know… So when we, you know, advocate for, direction, is that kind of, like, in that? So we can always have it in the back of our minds, or on the back burner that, hey, hey, here's an opportunity for 472
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This particular small… Top it. 473
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, I… yes, that is exactly how I would… like, there are small projects along the way that get you to that larger vision. I'm not necessarily suggesting that every single small project go through a super long period, but anything that has tied to funding should be included in those discussions with a framework that helps the city make those decisions of.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is it… is it this bike and pedestrian safety project? Is it this…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is consistent with the longer-term strategy of this plan in the downtown.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, thank you. Anyone else before… Oh, Vice Mayor, go ahead.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Yes, along the lines of what Councilmember Carter was just saying, I'm wondering if we approve of this plan, can we make small adjustments in the future?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Of course, yes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay. I think it will be adjusted over time as Caltrans looks at it in more detail, and more design work is done. There will be small modifications, but theoverall frameworkof
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: dedicated bicycle facilities in, you know, along a certain corridor, two-way circulationon another corridor, that stuff is kind of core to its vision, but along the way, it is going to get tweaked.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To meet what is found out during that design process.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, if there are any other questions, if not… 485
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, thank you very much. You can go ahead and have a seat, and we'll go to public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Mayor. So this is for public comment on the, two-way street proposal. If you would like to make a public comment, I do chambers first, and then go into Zoom. It is a two-minute public time limit, so if there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment on this item. 487
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: How's it going, you guys? My name's Gabe, I work at Community Bikes. I've been biking here my entire life. 488
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I just wanted to say that whatever you guys go with, I'd really recommend keeping bike paths on Main Street versus Petaluma Ave, just based on the steepness of that grade. I kindof base bike paths off of, can a 4th grader do it? 489
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And biking up a steep hill withfast traffic going right by you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: talking about Petaluma Ave, like, right in front of the hospital, is just not viable. So, if you keep it on Main Street, it's not as steep of a street. 491
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Much more safer, and if you're coming from the bike path, from, like, the high school.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And you're heading south, Doesn't make sense to turn off ofthat road to get onto another road, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's all I'd like to say. Thank you. Thank you, Gabe, for your public comment. Next, I'll go out to Zoom. Lee, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Lee: Hello?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There you go. Can you see the timer? 496
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Lee: lots of… questions about this. I asked the,
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Lee: The first question Ihave is, how areyou going to find moneyand staff to do this? 501
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Lee: The budget deficit next yearright now stands at amillion afterthat, the next two years at $1.6 million.
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Lee: Staff time seems like an issue as well. We've had Measure U money now for acouple of years,that 40%of it was supposed to go to fixing streets. Tothe best of my knowledge, we haven't fixed any streets with that money yet. Some of it might get donethis year, and the rest is being carried over now into next year.
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Lee: I assume that's because we didn't have staff to do the work. If they're now focused on this project, what's going to happen to the neighborhood streets in Sevastopol? Are we ever going to get them fixed?
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Lee: I don't understand where this option came from. If… if this was such a good idea, why didn't it come up in the public meetings? In the public meetings, it emerged either a walkable one-way.
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Lee: So you have nice sidewalks, but you still keep traffic moving smoothly, because you have enough lanes and parking, or you have a…
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Lee: fully two-way option, but it didn't give you the extra sidewalk space. And now we're going to get sidewalks and two-way. It looks like we're also not going to get left turn lanes, right turn lanes, particularly at Main Street and 12, which is two major highways. That's not just a minor thing.
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Lee: That traffic's gottago somewhere, and likely it's gonna go up Florence, it's gonna go up through the neighborhoods.
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Lee: So, this all doesn't make sense yet.
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Lee: And needs a lot more work.
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Lee: Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Leigh, for your public comment. Next, I will come back into chambers, if there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment on this item.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hi, my name is Lawrence Pulgrim. I live on DuFrank Avenue, which is about 5 blocks northof downtown. This is my first time ever spoke… speaking to the Council. Thank you for thinking about this. To me, the biggest 516
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: risk of this is that there's so much opposition to it that nothing will ever happen. We're in agreement we want to have a pedestrian-friendly downtown. We want to have a bike-friendly downtown. And 59% of the people don't want two-waytraffic.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Traffic.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Coming down on 116, every day is jammed. We're talking about going from 3 lanes and a bike lane
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: At McKinley. Where is the traffic going to go? And, because there's two-directional traffic, the lights have to be much longer, because people have to be able to turn left and to turn right. When you come on McKinley now, you automatically get to go right all the time.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: how is that traffic going to get through? The traffic is going to be a nightmare. So we're going to have a collaborative process here, but what about the businesses that don't
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: work on that two-block street. What about every other business in Sebastopol? What about the hardware store? What about Fircrest? What about everybody else that people are going to not be able to come through Sebastopol and visit? How are we going to take care of those people? We can have a pedestrian-friendly 523
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: street. We don't have to wipe out a bike lane. I walk to town, it's 5 blocks. I will not walk morewhen I have more traffic signals to wait on. I bike constantly. I will not now be able to bike through the main part of town. This is supposed to allow bikers to be part of our community. Lawrence, you have about 15 seconds. We're not even going to let them into the main strip.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This, this is…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We should not inflict this on ourselves. We don't have to do this. We can come up with a solution that lets pedestrians and bikes and businesses all over the city coexist. That is too bad. Thank you for your public comment.
Next, I will go out to Zoom.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If you'd like to make a public comment, Emily, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Emily Shartin, SCBC: Hi.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Can you see the timer? 529
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Emily Shartin, SCBC: Yes.
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Emily Shartin, SCBC: Hi, Emily Sharten from the Sonoma County Bicycle Coalition. 532
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Emily Shartin, SCBC: This presentation included a very brief look at the possibility of bike lanes on Main Street, per the Council's direction at the last meeting. So I'm curious to hear more of the Council's thoughts on what was presented.
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Emily Shartin, SCBC: Scbc is certainly in favor of designs that include bike lanes on Main Street. It contributes… bike lanes contribute more to the creation of place. 534
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Emily Shartin, SCBC: Than lining the streets with vehicle parking. 535
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Emily Shartin, SCBC: bike lanes on Main Street also get bikes where they want to go.
Previous iterations of this design have had no bikeways on Main Street, and that was part of the City Council's concern, and certainly is part of our concern as well. Bikes also on Main Street would be going in the same direction as traffic, whichcreates predictability and visibility for cyclists.
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Emily Shartin, SCBC: As far as the recommended design, you've heard me say it before, two-way cycletracks and paths are difficult.
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Emily Shartin, SCBC: How cyclists get on and off ofthem, what happens at intersections, I've said this before, that creates uncertainty, some unpredictability, so the design on those needs to be really nailed down.
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Emily Shartin, SCBC: I also have some concerns about the bike boulevard that's shown on Burnett in the new iteration. Usually, bike boulevards involve some types of traffic diversion to keep cars off ofthose roads, or at thevery least to keep 539
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Emily Shartin, SCBC: cars going at low speeds, so I'm curious to know what those, what those might be, what those, what that infrastructure might look like.
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Emily Shartin, SCBC: And then lastly, there wasn't… there was bike parking included, in… in the presentation.
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Emily Shartin, SCBC: But no discussion of it. Bike parking can't be an afterthought. It needs to be secure and visible and a central part of this plan. Thanks. 542
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment. Next, I will come in to Chambers, Oliver. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just looked up what… while this gentleman was presenting. We get about 23,000 cars a day go through the city every day. It's the busiest… obviously, we know this, the busiest crossroads in all of Sonoma County, 116 and 12. 544
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But more importantly, there's 922 trucks a day, approximately, and a lot ofthose trucks stop to drop off foodand so on to the stores downtown. So the idea of having all this kind of free-flowing traffic going two-way and so on.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm… Ilive a blockoff, 116 going south, and I'm very aware of how many trucks are on that road, especially early in the morning. 546
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So the fundamental problem is a bit like a public works problem. Where's all the water going to go? Like, when it rains in the winter, we have so much trafficflowingthrough thecity, we're going to have gridlock, people aren't going to go downtown, and they're going to start driving through all the residential streets, which have horrifically bad road surfaces. So you're going to see a lot of the quieter streets, you know, like, for example, Fellers Lane, if you're coming up 116, a lot of people cut through the city by going that way, and then
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: They kind of zigzag through to get, you know, to then go to the coast.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, this is another of these situations where, unless there's a bypassorganized with Caltrans, we lessen that truck traffic, and I didn't even mention vans, but we obviously have a huge number of vans coming through the city every day as well, delivering things. All of the FedEx trucks and… 549
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, everybody's buyingstuff from Amazon and so on. And then, of course, there's the mysterious ghost cyclist, which, you know, I very, very rarely see a cyclist on the green cycle lanes. It's like a… 550
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's like a rare bird or something. I mean, I just put an electric tricycle together for my next-door neighbor this morning, who's too old to ride a bicycle anymore.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and wants to get to the liquor store on an electric tricycle. He's not going to go on the green light. You know, he's got to go on the main road.
There's no way. You know, so anyway, yeah, I think, you know, this is a very incomplete plan, and we'reignoringtheelephantof theroom,which isallthisincrediblevolumeof traffic. 552
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Oliver, for your public comment. Next, I'll go back out to Zoom. If you would like to make a public comment, please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Paul, can you mute yourself, please? 554
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Paul Fritz: Hi, thanks.
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Paul Fritz: Can you see the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Timer, Paul?
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Paul Fritz: I can, Mary, thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Great, go ahead, please. 559
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Paul Fritz: I strongly encourage you to adopt the plan before you tonight. I think this is a good culmination of the past couple of years of this process. I think it's a really unique approach. This is obviously not kind of a cookie-cutter approach that you've seen in other cities. I think it really takes a lot of what the public has, you know, public input. 560
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Paul Fritz: come up with a good kind of schematic plan. There are many details, obviously, that still need to be worked out, but this will be transformational for downtown, I think in a very positive way. I hear a lot of talk about traffic, we all hear people talk about traffic and fearof traffic.
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Paul Fritz: What we have is designed to move cars through town and the most traffic through town as quickly as possible.
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Paul Fritz: That is not what we want for our downtown. We want downtown to be a place where people want to spend time.
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Paul Fritz: People don't want to spend time downtown right now because it's just a traffic sewer.
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environment. And I totally appreciate the concerns about not having bikes all the way… bike lanes all the way down Main Street.
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Paul Fritz: you know, an ideal world, I would agree we should get rid of the street parking and put the bike lanes in, but the downtown business owners would go ballistic over that.
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Paul Fritz: maybe move towards that eventually.
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Paul Fritz: I encourage you to establish a committee, an independent kind of committee in the community to help continue to advance this, so we can keep the momentum going. We don't want to let this report sort of die on the vine, so to speak. I am limited about current staffcapacity,especiallyin theplanningdepartment. 569
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Paul Fritz: And so I think having a kind of a standing committee to help advance this could alleviate some of the staffingconcerns, and I just would encourage the Council to consider something like that. I appreciate your thoughts, and I think this is a great idea, and we should keep going. Thanks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Paul, for your public comment. Next, I will come back into chambers, if there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment on this item.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go back out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment, to please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed. All right, thank you. Back at the dais here for comments.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, go ahead. No, Councilmember Hinton. 574
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just wanted to make comments. I supported this the last time, I'm gonna be supporting it tonight.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I, I think about, on our consent calendar, we had our Bodega Avenue project. The Bedanga Avenue project was startingwhen I first got Agenda Item Number 1
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elected. That was 2016. That was 10 years ago. So, these projects take a long time. We have to go for funding.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: they, you know, change along the way, but I do believe that it's not just about three lanes, as the speaker brought up. I don't think there's any other Sonoma County downtown that has one-way streets. 577
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, for me, driving… It just does feel like a highway. This might not be perfect tonight.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I plan to support it also, because we need to accept it to get paid on the project. So, I do hope that we can approve it tonight, but also keep it alive and move forward slowly on this. We talked about a hotel tonight. 579
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This would make sense, as the town grows, in my opinion. Thanks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You had your hand up next, if you'd like to go, and then Councilmember Zolman. Yeah, thanks. And, yeah…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We've been working on this for, like, 2 years, or I've at least been absorbing
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: comments from people… I live on West, which would end up dumping out on 116, which I can't turn left on right now. It's a steady stream of cars, so I understand the concern that it would filter through the restof the neighborhoods.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But when you consider that, Petaluma could actually open up a full mile of other road where things go through. 584
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And you have different ways to go through. I've thoughtaboutthephysicsof how trafficflowsthrough town,and I'mratherconfident,and I've spoken through
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: through businesses all the way up through, best basketballhardwareabouthow trafficactuallywill…willdialbackjusta touch.Itmaybe, like, 30 seconds slower, but it will feel better, because you won't hit the… 586
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: constant, like, it won't feel bad. And then when I was doing, a lot of research on this, I practically could have done a PhD on this, I think. 587
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I did, you know, did a look at Dana Point and what they did, and it increased businesses, like where A&M Barbecue is, that area between Hot Monk and the Solar Garden.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Their businesses increased, 17-30% because people were slower, it was easier to access.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: there are, turnouts for going on some safe lefts, especially, you know, on one side of the hot monk, if you look at it correctly. But then, 590
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: there are some small things to worry about, like, can you take a left from, going down where the city hall is, left on to… 591
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: North Main Street, that would be… that would… that can be difficult, because it could back upcars to Park Street, but those are… those are things that will be dialed in as the… as the plot thickens, you know what I mean? So we have a vision here that we ought to go with, and then, you know, iron out… we'll have time to iron out some of the more
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Difficult spots with this. 593
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay,go ahead. Yes, I'm definitely still a thousand percent supportive of this. As I said before, I want to reduce speeds. I don't believe any city should havean Indy500zoomingtraffic,running…nearlyrunningoverpeople,definitely haven't ran over that dog.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I want… I love the phrase that the consultant said, Main Street, to be the place. I want that. I want that because I want people to stay and appreciate all the uniqueness of our downtown, and I particularly want them to come and frequent our businesses downtown. It's a lovely space, and if we have two-way Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it'll make it easier to close it down, like in Sebast… in San Francisco, for a huge thing where dogs and cats and their children can just roam all over Main Street, get an ice cream.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: get cookies, whatever. It'll be fun. So that's why I'm supporting these things.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Vice Mayor?
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Thank you. With hearing the public comments, I'm guessing that probably there willbe some problems inthe future with the change in configuration, and I'm personally concerned with the loss of parking adjacent to the plaza, but knowing that adjustments can be made in the future, I feel that that's reassuring, and I'm still in support as well.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so now I'm gonna weigh in with my thoughts, and unfortunately, I wasn't here when this was first presented. I had to be out of town for work.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm gonna be a different voicehere. I'm not supportive of this. I've spent a great deal of time talking with a number of residents, so I'm just gonna list off a fewthings here. Number one, residents do not feel heardabout this, based on my discussions with many people, and the comments that we received. 602
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, and I hear, you know, it's residents, they don't feel heard about this, and they don't feel like they've truly… their input has truly been considered. I mean, they feel that they…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Some people use the word railroaded. They just don't feel that they've been heard for this.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that's concerning to me.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The second thing that concerns me, because it's become this hurdle that we have consistently with trying to make improvements in our park, is the Calder Creek project.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that plan, which everyone says, you know, 10, 15 years, has been a hurdle for making a lot of different progressive steps and improving it right now, all for the idea that later on, because of that plan, that we might have a grant for somewhere down the line, we might be able toactually fix something.And I'm like, I'd like to live in today, and I'd like for us all to be able to enjoy the parks today, and next year, and not continually talk about
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In 10 years or 15 years. I'm here now. 608
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so, I just think that that's how residents are feeling as well, and they're frustrated with this, and I have to say, I get frustrated with that idea, so is this just another plan that's, you know, we've already talked about how it's down the road, it's just going to be another hurdle to make improvements. And personally, living on one of the side streets that people use to cut through to avoid 116 right now. 609
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I worry about other folks having that same thing. I mean, we've had all kinds of neighborhood, you know, meetings about how to get rid of the Agenda Item Number 1
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traffic on our street andto slow it down, because everyone cuts through Feller's Lane to get back to the backside of Sebastopol. I live on that street, I watch it every day, and that concerns me.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then third, we're a cash-strapped city. That's all we talk about up here. We squabble over $500, $250, $1,000, and yet here we are talking about
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I couldn't get a dollar amount for how much this is gonna cost, but yet we're gonna vote… I'm not willing to vote for a blank check for whatever it costs to get city staff going with this. I mean,if we're gonna squabble over all these different, you know.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: minutiae amounts, but yet we're gonna just, like, give a blank check, and we have no idea how much it's gonna cost to make progress with this? I just… I'm not comfortable with that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I have many, many other thoughts and comments on this, but let's just suffice it to saythat I am not supportive of this. And I've talked to a lot of people here in the city. I have spent a great deal of time trying to understand why people
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I feel this way, because I, too, would love to have a wonderful downtown. I would love it to look like Cloverdale or Sonoma or Healdsburg, but we can't change the reality that we actually have a highway going down the middle of our street. So unless we figure something out, likeCloverdale or any of these other placesthat rerouted and got rid of the actual highway going down our… the middle of our street, we're wishing for something that actually we just don't have. 615
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that's because we have this highway here. So I'm not sure how, you know, we can dream and have vision, but at the end of the day, in my mind.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it's just not gonna happen, because we have a highway in the middle of our street, and slowing people down more and sitting through more lights… I just sat through 3 lights yesterday trying to get through downtown. 617
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I just thought, wow, if this goes to two-way, how many more lights am I gonna have to sit through just to get to my house on the south side of the city? Those are my thoughts, that's how I feel about this, and it's the first time I've been able to say that publicly, so I'm not supportive of this. So, at that… 618
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If you're completed, I'm ready to make a motion. 621
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sure, yeah, I'm done. I'd like to move that the City Council adopt the resolution to confirm the work under the STGgrant has been completed, and to adopt a resolution approving the Reimagining the Core Plan, including the Planning Commission's suggestions for recommended future actions. 622
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Will that, include, like, forming a group to make sure it keeps going like Mr. Fritz said?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We need to talk louder into the mic. Will this include, the language that…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, supports a committee to support this project.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Through the chair. 626
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, it's in the resolution. 627
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, I'll go ahead and second it. 629
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. So moved by Councilmember Hinton and seconded by Councilmember Zolman to adopt theresolution to confirm the work under the STG grant has been completed, and adopt a resolution approving reimagining the Agenda Item Number 1
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core plan, including the Planning Commission's suggestions for recommended future actions. Councilmember Carter?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Councilmember Hinton? Aye.
Councilmember Zollman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer?
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Yes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Mayor McLois? No. Motion passes 4-1, with Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zolman, and Vice Mayor Maurer in support, and Mayor McLewis in opposition.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, thank you very much. I apologize, I have to leave. Oh, okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, let me get my glass here. We are moving on to item number 12, Adoption of City of Sebastopol Emergency Operations Plan, and I believe the Chief of Police is here to do the presentation, sorry.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Good evening, Council. 636
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Soyeah, this, staff report is for the consideration of
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the, Emergency Operations Plan and its approval. 638
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: From where we left off, it was last before Council on March the 17th.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And we left that meeting with… with some direction that we needed to go out to public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Which we did, and there were some recommendations by the Council at that meeting as well. 642
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, based on those recommendations, we had a… I think it was a 30-day
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: A number of public comments, which are attached to the staff report online.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To… Summarise.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The EEOP was designed to beflexible as it would need to be in an emergency. We can't dictate
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: A plan for every single conceivable emergency, so it was made to be afluid… a fluid document that can beadapted 649
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: there was some concern about the wording with the volunteer groups, such as Meet Your Neighbours West County or the SNCU, where they felt that we were
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Perhaps not allowing them to self-deploy, but the concern that we have is that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If we activate the Emergency Operations center, then we fall underneath the National Incident Management System and the ICS structure, and with that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Come certain obligations. 654
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Excuse me.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Certain obligations to follow a structured path. 656
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Which leads to reimbursement for the city, and also protects the city from liability, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We reworded that, that, community engagement section to…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To recognize that these groups do… 659
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Self-deploy, that's the way that they're built. 660
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: However, once we, as a city, engage them under the Emergency Operations center, that would need to change that 661
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: any deployment comes from the EOC so that we can track it, it's accountable, and it leads to reimbursement, should that be an issue, as well as protecting the city and liability. So that covers the, 662
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In my opinion, the bulk of the public comments that we received
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: They… because they're typically related to community engagement.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We also made some revisions to the, elected officials' role, because I felt there was some confusion with that, and that may all have been how I presented it, and if that was the case, I apologize. It was… 665
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: really just once again, following that National Incident Management System structure from FEMA, which doesn't have a structured position for elected officials inthat ICS structure, as stipulated in that document. 666
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But it absolutely does make recommendations to the very important role that City Council play in an emergency, and that's one for, 667
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, policy-level responsibilities, operational coordination,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So that was incorporated into the new plan so that, we all understandwhere we fit into that framework. 669
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We also made some revisions because there was some discussion about the public informationofficer and the… 670
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And the roles that relate there, and who would do that, and when.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: When we speak about public information, we're thinking about
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Everything from a social media message through to a Nixle alert, and everything in between, right through to a press conference, if that was ever a thing, which we hope never happens.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Typically, when we look at the history around the country.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Depending on what type of emergency you're dealing with, whether it's a fire, everybody wants to hear from the fire chief. If it's a public safety thing related to law, it's the police chief.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There's also a place in there for our elected officials to be involved in that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But the key is that we all havea unified message, so that's been…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: placed into the Emergency Operations Plan so that we have a plan, that we work together and
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: As a city, we come together and we have that structured, unified message.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sowehave a variedmessage from different people. It can be disturbing and alarming to people, and it doesn't provide the necessary messaging that we're looking for.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We also added a training and preparedness section to it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That, the staff would be… 683
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Required to do the ICS 684
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Training 100, 200, 700, and 800 through the, the FEMA… FEMA system there.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There'll be periodic training and exercises and so forth, and we do participate in those with the county and other municipalities, and we look forward to a continued partnership with that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The… Sonoma County Department of Emergency Management, we have
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sam Wallace here tonight, representing them. He has been… him and his team have been instrumental in helping us pull this together. 688
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Their advice, their involvement in the training. 689
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And the direction that we're moving in has been… 690
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Very, very well appreciated. We cannot thank you enough. So, if there's any questions that the county would be better to answer, we've got CM here tonight.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: They are actually organising Aelected official's training.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That they state they should have operational by… 693
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Middle of the year, so we're hoping that they'll be rolled out
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: At a pretty well, well-timed point in the year for our… our council members to be able to participate in that, and learn more about their role in these,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: in these emergencies.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Post-incident processes, we added that as well, so that there's a section after an emergency where we go through a hot wash. 697
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: An after-action debrief, and provide an afteraction report that we can review, and… 698
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Basically, so we can see if we can do better next time.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There's always a room for education in these things.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then the finalthingthat we added was. 701
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: plan and their attachments, because they are upto-date, and keeping them separate from the plan means we don't have to go through this whole public comment and approval process, which is quite onerous, and I think it's disruptive to the operational plan.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And we can just keep up to date through that. 704
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Reference to the county's plan. 705
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We've also got the Fire Chief here, Darren Ducali, if there's any questions for him or Sam from the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Department of Emergency Management.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We're all these?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Does anyone have any questions? 710
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Any questions?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Vice Mayor?
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Yeah, thank you. I have quite a few questions, so just, do you want me to just do a couple, and then go back to the Council, or shall I just ask all my questions?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Why don't you start, and then we'll see if anybody else has any in the meantime, and we'll… I'll… I'll chime in if someone here has it. I don't know how easy it is for you to see.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Okay, so I have about 7 questions and comments, and, thank you for this. I'm glad we're here now, after all this preparation, and, thank you for all your work on this.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: So… Who will be the PIO?
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Like, right now, if there's an emergency, who's the PIO? Is that you, or the city manager?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We have a shared responsibility for that, and it will mostlikelyadaptdependingonwhat'shappeningwith theemergencystaffing. 718
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, we'll put the appropriate person. It may well be a Goldbridge Fire Chief, if we feel that's more appropriate, if it's a fire-related incident, to have the subject matter experts, relaying the necessary public safety message out, but there'd be absolutely a place in that for the mayor or the vice mayor 719
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Or intheir absence, another elected official from the city that could partner in the messaging that we're looking for here. 720
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: So, I guess what I hear you saying is that, the PIO will depend on the type of emergency we're dealing with, is that correct? 721
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Okay, is there a backup location for the EOC? 723
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: In case there's a problem with the police department.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: At this stage, Excuse me, at this stage, we do not havea backuplocation identified,becausewehave…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: thepolice department, and we've been outfitting it with the necessary equipment, and a new generator is on the way. However, that's one of those
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: fluid situationsthat we'll adapt and overcome should that need arise, if necessary. I have no doubt in the world that we could… 727
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: move to the fire department with our partners up there at Goldridge. We'll just make it work. That's what emergencies, typically bring out, the best in, in agency cooperation.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Okay.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: What if the… what if you are out of town, and the city manager is out of town? Who would be next? Is that the fire chief, in terms of leading a disaster, in case… in case you're out of town? Do we have a third person? 730
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That could absolutely be a possibility, and to be perfectly honest, I would have no qualms whatsoever in any of our partners from Goldridge leading the charge here in the city.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: They have a vested interest in the city and public safety here, and they're extremely good at their job.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm part of the,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the North Bay Incident Management Team myself, and I work with… with a great many, Goldridge
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: firechiefs and fire chiefs from around the county and the North Bay area.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And they are exceptional at, at emergency management, rather.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can Iask a question off ofthat? 737
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Vice Mayor, just… Yes, yes, go ahead. 738
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So we know that, you know, you live quite a ways away from here. If you're not here, and it's a weekend, or whatever, you're far away, and we have an emergency, and you can't get back here, is it your next in charge that's in charge, like, during that time, the EOC? I just want to understand the, like. 739
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that's quite possible, if I happen to be away at my other location, it's quite possible that the lieutenant would be Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: be the next in charge, and that's the way that our structure is. Okay. With that being said.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If I'm just, you know, not away on a holiday somewhere, which is unlikely, haven't happened on New Year's. 742
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll make my way back here, ASAP. 743
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To be part of this, structure. 744
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But yeah, we do have that, and it's pretty much a daily occurrence anyway for the department. Obviously, I can't work 24 hours a day, so if there's an incident that occurs while I'm sleeping.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, sure, we know you're a distant, you know, it's a bit of a drive to get here, so that's why I was just curious who the next person would be in line. I mean… Yeah, it'sdefinitely a possibility. It's the same for… Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for other staff who happen togo away on a weekend, we… we always structure it so there's always someone here available, but it is a possibility that one or the other may not be around, absolutely. Okay, go ahead, Vice Mayor, I just…
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Thank you. Is there a need for a Spanish version of the EOP? 748
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: And…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I would defer to the City Council on their feelings with that, but I don't have an issue with it.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Okay. Can you, share any thoughts that you might have on creating a disaster council?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We actually have… a disaster council by the municipal code here in the… in the city.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And its, its structure is outlined in that municipal code.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: And who… who… which… who would be on it? 754
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't have it in front of me, so I couldn't reference it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: exactly, perhaps, Mary or Alex could look it up while we're… they're nodding, so I think they're on it. 756
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I know that the mayor forms a large part of that, if not the leader of it, or they convene the meetings of the Disaster Council.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: myself, and I believe it has… 758
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: all the representatives of the various roles within the EOC ICS structure.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: So you're saying the mayor is part of that? 760
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. We are.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's dictated in the municipal code for the city. 762
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You're welcome.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: That brings me to my next question, and that is that Council, I mean, I thank you for including the Council in here, that helps my understanding. But if Council's making critical decisions in an emergency.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: And we are going to be trained for what to do in an emergency, and we are possibly making public statements during an emergency. Why aren't we part of the organizational part?
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: I'm a little confused, because in the write-up, it says that we do these things, but then it says, but we're not part of the EOC. And it seems like we are part of the EOC, we're just not recognized as such. Like, for example, you have the organizational chart.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: And then it seems like, like the council should be below… 767
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: And off tothe side of the city manager, so we would be under the city manager at that point.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Hmm, anyway, that… what… what are your thoughts on that? 769
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's… Not that you're not part of the emergency management of the city, it's just the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And Sam might be able to correct me, he's probably got some better lingo for this, since that's his full-time job, but… 771
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The ICS structure is very clearly stipulated in the National Incident Management System from FEMA, and it's basically the structure of an operational response within an EOC. The Council are not part of an operational response, they form more of a policy direction.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: role, and public… public messaging, So they… 773
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I've been through this document like a fine-tooth comb,andI'vebeen unabletofind anyreferencewhatsoeverinany 775
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: provides an organisational chart where the council actually stipulated in it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I just ran with the way that the structure is nationally, but inside that…
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: This is… okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm sorry.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: It's just confusing to me, since we're making critical decisions. 781
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, I understand. 782
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: A large room within the police department, and that's where all those operational decisions are made.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I have a question that's related to this. Can you help us to understand? I mean, a lot of us have been through a lot of emergencies here. I know you don't have the luxury of time and being here with all that, but the Board of Supervisors, who are elected, just like we are, are, like, deeply involved and always in the EOC, and in fact, they're the ones communicating with us all the time, so can you help me understand, like you're saying, nationally, all of that. 789
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But how is it working with the county and their part of that, is my understanding, or am I incorrect? Are they not part of that? Can I invite Sam to speak on that, since that's his…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Porto?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou so much, Chief. And first of all, to the Council, thank you for inviting me to speak.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: First of all, that is incorrect. We do not actually have the Board of the Board of Supervisors in the Emergency Operations Center. Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and receive guidance from them. But the Board of Supervisors' role, much as yours would be, would be doing that overview of policy, and of course, you would have a major role in ratification of what 794
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: those folks in the EOC are going to be doing. I appreciate it. Thank you.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: I do, thank you.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: I'm wondering your thoughts, Chief, on the idea of maintaining the previous EOP that the former council had created as a resource and a backup, because I think they did some real detailed work on action plans. Not that it's our current EOP, but that you just have it in reserve
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ViceMayorSandra Maurer:and availableifyouneed guidanceonanythingin specifics.It just… so that was my question.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think, from my perspective, that would just create confusion.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The whole point of creating this new document was to remove a lot of the confusion and the, unnecessary detail in that document.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that was done in conjunction with the County's Department of Emergency Management to streamline and make our plan more adaptable to a variety of emergencies, rather than trying to dictate every possible scenario that occurs.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We also have the luxury of… we also have the luxury of…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: of having our friends and partners at the Department of Emergency Management at the county on speed dial. So, if we do have any questions, or we have any roadblocks, or feel like we've hit a… hit a wall, we… they're a phone call away.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Okay, I just, I just, think that the previous Council had done quite a lot of work
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: creating that 200-page document with a lot of details. I just don't want to see it get lost, because I think there might be specificthings that could be important. But,
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: So my last point is, is there's a typo on page 11. 807
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: And that is right under the header, Organization, Roles and Responsibilities, and it's the very first sentence.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: It says, the, the, of.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: I'm not sure what that is, EOC of Sebastful or something, but anyway, it's a typo.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I have a question. Thank you, I'll refer to that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No, but I've just marked the page, and I'll have a read of it when I'm not here, monopolising council time. 814
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: more on the liaison. Who is the liaison that the county utilizes so that we could better understand the process? You said there's a liaison that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh,yes, ma'am. The liaison isstaffed in our Emergency OperationsCenter by the staff of the Board of Supervisors,so they havea roster of, I think, right now we're at 5 of people that they can rotate into that position. We bring them in from time to time, do some training so they understand 817
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: where their role is, but almost all of them come from, specifically the Board of Supervisors, staff.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Got it, thank you. I just think that helps us to understand the structure and framework.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, any other questions? 820
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, thank you very much, both of you. I really appreciate answering all the questions. I'm gonna go out to public comment. Thank you, Mayor. So this is public comment on the proposed Emergency Operations Plan. If you'd like to make a public comment, I will go toChambers first, and then go out to Zoom, if there's anyone in chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go out to Zoom. Kyle, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Kyle Falbo: Yes, I can.
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Kyle Falbo: No, but you can let me know.
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Kyle Falbo: I support having a clear structure aligned with NIMS, SEMS, and ICS, and I recognize the value of adopting an updated plan, rather than continuing to rely on the older one.
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Kyle Falbo: Routes and the evacuation capacity can be constrained, but residents need more than a general reminder to leave early. We need clearer planning around evacuation zones,trafficcontroldecision points,accessibletransportation,re-entry procedures, communication with route changes, and how information reaches people without internet access or in languages other than English.
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Kyle Falbo: I also want to give credence to the police chief's prior comments about overseeing this emergency plan as amounting to a second full-time job. That's not a reason to weaken the plan, it's a reason to distribute the work intelligently. 831
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Kyle Falbo: Much of the non-emergency labor, training calendars, contact lists, tabletop exercises, volunteer coordination, communications templates, or neighborhood liaison work, EOC readiness checks, all of these things does not need to sit solely with the police chief. The council candirect staff
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Kyle Falbo: PIO function, and train community groups such as CERT, SCNU, and neighborhood preparedness networks. That would strengthen accountability while also respectingthe reality of limited staff capacity.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Kyle, for your public comments. Next, I will come back in the chambers. Oliver? Yeah, just a quick comment, I guess, to the Council, really. It'd be great to see some wargaming of this, because we're up to our eyeballs in dealing with bureaucracy and acronyms and…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: organizational flows and Godknows what else, but it would be really good to actually, you know, war game, like, a, you know, catastrophic fire or an earthquake orsomething.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, just to sort of, you know, take 6 or 7 hours and kind of go through the… go through the dynamics of who would do what and why, and so on and so forth.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then it's kind of too late now from the previous agenda item, which was voted in, but I… I'm wondering… Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The two-way streets thing, if it ever happens, what the impact would… that would have on trying to evacuate the city? 839
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think that really would need to be taken very, very seriously if you were doing some kind of wargaming model. 840
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because it wasn't good last time, as I remember.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Oliver, for your public comment. Next, I'll go out to Zoom. Lee, can you unmute yourself, please? 842
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Lee: Yes, can you hear me?
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Lee: I can, thank you.
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Lee: Yeah, I was one of the early critics of, in fact, this is what got me more involved with City Council for the first time when we had to evacuate forthe fire, and… 847
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Lee: They go out pretty much any time randomly, but when they go out, that means that traffic can't move through that wonderful intersection inthat quiet downtown area. Some of those things can be fixed, I think. Caltrans offered 850
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Lee: 10, 12 years ago, the opportunity to put backup batteries in those cameras… in those, those traffic lights, but I guess we didn't…
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Lee: know about it, or act on it. But, I was also very critical of that 200-page-plus plan that, Councilmember,
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Lee: Maurer mentioned. It had an org chart in it that had more positions than there were permanent positions in the city of Sebastopol. What kind of a plan was that? I don't know.
There's a 75% chance that when the emergency happens.
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Lee: something happening. And that's… that's who's going to be available to respond until people can get here. And depending on what the emergency is, they may or may not be able to get here. So, there has to be a really good plan for that, and I suspect Gold Ridge is going to be the answer.
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Lee: And I'm glad that they're there tonight. That's great. So I think this is a thousand times better. I think the flexibility is great. Ithink the Chief has done agreat job, and this is a really, really good start. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Lee, for your public comments. Next, I will come back into chambers, if there's anyone in chambers. 857
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Good evening, Skip Geralds. 858
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just want to comment, I think it's really great that we have this plan, and it's moved along as it has. It's really great. But I would also like to comment about the Disaster Council, and I think that the language, in the plan sort of references that almost everything in the Disaster Council is really predicated on city and city council, and those departments or those areas within the EOP Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: itself.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that would maybe be… then be involved with the Disaster Council. In a lot of communities, the Disaster Council actually has public and business input, participation at that level, and I think that at that level, because we do have a lot of that in our community, I think at that level.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: there might be a way to be able to have these things like an emergency operations plan better adopted and adapted to by the community itself if there's more of a voice on an ongoing basis through the Disaster Council. A thought to think about. Thanks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Skip, for your public comment. Next, I'll go out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment, to please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will come back to chambers if there's anyone in chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed. 865
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, thank you. 866
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So coming back here, does anyone have any comments they'd like to make?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead. Sure, I love it, and thank you to the people from the county, but I definitely want togive a shout out to Dr. Nancy Brown. 868
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because being a CERT and also an ACS with the county, she was the first to recognize the fact that while there had been past efforts done by the city, a lot needed to be done, and she provided a lot of time in her own sweat equity to get us here, so I want to give her a special shout out. 869
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm thrilled that we are where we are, because we need to start having something in place
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: as soon as possible, so I'm glad we are where we are at this moment, and I can make a motion at some point, unless other people have comments. Does anyone else have comments? Vice Mayor? No? 871
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I do not, so… I'll go ahead and make a motion to approvestaff'srecommendation.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll second it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So moved by Councilmember Zolman and seconded by Mayor McLewis to adopt the updated Emergency Operations Plan and direct the Chief of Police as the Director of Emergency Services to maintain and update the plan as necessary. Councilmember Carter? Yes. Councilmember Zolman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer?
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Yes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Mayor McLewis? Yes. Councilmember Hinton is absent. Motion passes 4-1, with Councilmembers Carter, Zolman, Vice Mayor Maurer, Mayor McLewis in support, and Councilmember Hinton absent. 876
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, thank you. Are we doing okay, everyone? Do we need any kind of break? Are you…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Nope. Okay. Alright, so we are going to move on to number 13, approval of special event fee waivers, Micah's Hugs. Fee waiver has been requested in the amount of $275.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, any questions, or who's talk… who's actually a public works? I'm sorry. Do you have something to present on it? Good evening, Mayor. 879
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And council members, yeah, that was the gist of it. This is a request from the Micah Huggs organization to waive a special event fee for the fentanyl awareness event they held in April. They did submit a request in April, but it did not Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: come to us in time to make it to the April 19th meeting. It went to the Budget Committee on May 10th, and is now in front of you for consideration to waive the fee for that event that happened. 881
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, and I didn't mean to call you Public Works, Oriana. Ihave to put my glasses onandoff to see if I'm at that point. So, anyone have any questions?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't have any questions, so if we want to go out to public comment… Thank you, Mayor. So this is for public comment for the waiver of the fee. If you would like to make a publiccomment, I'll come to Chambers first. 883
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go out to Zoom if there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment on this waiver or fee. 884
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, there's no public comment. Okay, thank you. Any comments?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oops, we can't… Unfortunately, we could not make the event, but I saw the social media coverage. It looked like it was well put together, and also well attended, so I'm definitely in favor of this and canmake amotionat some point.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll second…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. So moved by Councilmember Zolman and seconded by Councilmember Carter to approve the special event fee waiver for Micah's Hugs in the amount of $275. Councilmember Carter? Yes. Councilmember Zolman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer?
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Yes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Mayor McLewis? Yes. Councilmember Hinton is absent. Motion passes 4-1, with Councilmembers Carter, Zolman, Vice Mayor, Mayor McLewis in support, and Councilmember Hinton absent. Thank you very much. Okay. 891
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Moving on to number 14, consideration of direction to staff to review City Council salaries. In 2023, the governorsigned SB 329 into law.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: which increased the amount council members could be paid. Pursuant to California Government Code Section 36516, the maximum compensation for council members in a city with a population of under 35,000 is $950 per month.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thereafter, compensation may be increased annually by no more than the greater of either the percentage change in the consumer price index since the last adjustment, or two, 5% per year for each since the last adjustment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: State law provides that compensation for council members mayonly bechanged by ordinance. Additionally, any change may not take effect until a new term in office begins for at least one council seat. Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: IfCouncil supports this item, City staff will return with a proposed ordinance, and I believe this is our city attorney, and not our interim city manager, but our city manager.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, thank you, Mayor. That, agenda title really captures basically the entire report.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: As you mentioned, the legislature amended the law regarding
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember compensation. And really what it allows is cities that have not raised compensation frequently, in the past to sort of catch up.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: quote-unquote, by increasing that maximum. And then, in the future, the council can, you know, vote to increase it again if they want. I'll note that an ordinance cannot include… state law expressly prohibits, ordinances on council compensation from including any kind of automatic
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: CPI or anything like that, so if… 901
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: a council now or in the future wants to increase the Council compensation, it would need to adopt a new ordinance again at that time. So with that, I'm happy to pause for any questions the Council may have. 902
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Any questions? I… I have a little bit of… I don't know if anyone wants, Anna, some…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: anecdotal information that I collected, because, from some public comments about, like, benefits that othercities have, and I noticed that Santa Rosa was missing from here, so I reached out. Can I give that information? 904
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I reached out, and what I understand from the City of Santa Rosa is that, council members receive $1,480 per month, and the Mayor receives $2,220 per month, plus full benefits.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And also, the City of Roanoke Park, they have, a unique situation where they receive their stipend, but they also, if they do not take the health benefits, they receive, in replacement of that,$400 per month. 906
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And they also have some other types of deferred compensation, which I don't have all the details, but just reading the public comments, and it mademe wonder what other, folks had as far as benefits, so those are the folks 907
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I reached out to the mayors to ask them if they could help me to better understand what others are doing, so just as a point of information for everyone. And thank you for… I mean, you have tons of information in there. I just wanted to
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Add to that a little bit, so… And… 909
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm trying to remember, just for the… just so that it's said out loud here, it… this is… I'm just confirming, it's been nearly40 years sincethis has been changed here, is that correct?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That is correct. We have never changed it. 911
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In all the times I've been here. 912
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Got it. Okay. All right. I think we probably all have a lot of comments about it, but not a lot of questions at this point. Vice Mayor, I just want to make sure, did you have any questions before we go to public comment? 913
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay. Thank you, Mayor. So this is for public comment on the, discussion of the City Council compensation Stipend. If you would like to make a publiccomment, I dochambers first.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go out into Zoom. Lee, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Lee: Yeah.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Go ahead with your public comment, please.
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Lee: Okay. Yeah, two fairly quick points, I suspect. One… 918
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Lee: I said it earlier, you've got a budget coming up in a couple weeks, I guess, that has a million dollar deficit in it, $1.6million next year, $1.6millionthe following year. 919
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Lee: I… don't know where you're gonna take this money from. 920
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Lee: If you gave yourself a raise, but something obviously has to be cut. A lot of things probably have to be cut. Number two is kind of a point of practice, but it's also related to this. Because of the cost allocation plan, 60% plus of the City Council's budget is allocated to water and sewer. So in reality, if you think about where this money's coming from, something like $24,000 of it is going to be paid by water and sewer.
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Lee: And I think that should be part ofa staff report. Anytime that there's an expenditure increase associated with one of the departments that's allocated, it should be clear that when you spend the money, you're spending it for the water and sewer ratepayers, as well asforthegeneralfund,and thatbreakoutshould beclearin thestaffreportand in the discussions that you're having. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Lee, for your public comment. Next, I will come back into chambers, if there's anyone in chambers. Seeing none, I will go back out to Zoom.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Kyle, can you unmute yourself, please? 924
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Kyle Falbo: I can.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. I'll jump in when you have 20 seconds left.
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Kyle Falbo: It's kind of interesting to think about this conversation and how it parallels some recent conversations happening on the national stage, and so maybe… 927
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Kyle Falbo: The solution is allowing city council members to, 928
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Kyle Falbo: Do unrestricted, trading in the stock market. 929
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Kyle Falbo: So, you know, you could do some insider trading, you could start working with the individual,
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Kyle Falbo: the, what's it called? The…
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Kyle Falbo: All of the contract work that you end up, farming out outside of city work, you could just start investing in those companies and start gaining some wealth. 932
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Kyle Falbo: But to be honest, I think that it is important that you look for a good balance in what the compensation is for city council members. This is hard work. 933
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Kyle Falbo: Showing up consistently, and regularly, and not being absent. 934
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Kyle Falbo: there's value in that, and you should be compensated for that. But similarly, if you choose not to come.
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Kyle Falbo: It's because you have other prior obligations that take you away from coming to City Council.
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Kyle Falbo: Perhaps you could be reduced in that income in 6-minute intervals. 937
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Kyle Falbo: directly charging back.
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Kyle Falbo: And let's also be very clearthat CalPERS health benefits isextremely expensive, and it's really concerning that we don't quantify that into a dollar amount and provide that in the agenda item.
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Kyle Falbo: So let's talk about that. Let's talk about what we're offeringto citycouncil members, but let's do it in a transparent way, rather than just to suggest it's only $300 a month, plus benefits, but not count what theactual fiscalcost to the city of. 940
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Probably about 15 seconds. 941
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Kyle Falbo: And let's provide some clear accommodation mechanisms for attending regularly.
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Kyle Falbo: And reducing council income.
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Kyle Falbo: By not coming to council.
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Kyle Falbo: Thanks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment. Next, I'll come back into chambers, if there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go out. Mary, can you unmute yourself, please?
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mary cone: Yeah, I'm…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Can you see the timer? 949
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mary cone: I can. Great.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead, please. 951
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mary cone: I feel like this is a large increase, and the water rate payers are already paying a large percentage of the City Council's pay. I'm wondering how much more we will be paying for that.
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mary cone: If you're gonna take it out of other money, that's fine with me. I think you deserve a raise, but the ratepayers are sick of this.
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mary cone: That's it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Mary, for your public comment. Next, I'll come back into chambers, if there's anyone in chambers. 955
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I'll go back out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment on this item, to please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed. 957
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, thank you. We're back here at the dais for comment. Go ahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, I want to thank the public commenter, who I think I just heard from tonight. I did read your public comment, and I copied it, and I sent it to Mary to just say, is this really what we're going to see in the budget? And to her credit, as always, she typed a very long response, and there were ways that apparently the Budget Committee has already thought.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Of ways to deal with the deficit. 960
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So that hopefully it's not as bad as it is, because when Iinitiallyread thepubliccommenters,Ihad flashbackstowhen MayorRichand I were on the Budget Committee, and it was true. We were burning through at $1.67 million a year
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: anticipated to have blown through all of our reserves by July 1st of 2026, and I was like, is this the best we did in 2 years? We got nowhere. But after reading Mary's email, I am convinced that there is a plan to not have it be this horrible.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Having said all that, yes, I do think that it's just like, if we're ever going to get any type of diverse voices, anyone lower than the age of 50 on this dais.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: anyone who's a different color otherthanwhite, we really do need to figure out how to compensate, or try tocompensate, people, especially from marginalized voices, so that they can even feel like trying to do any of this is even possible. So I'm definitely in favor of this,and 964
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I want to hear from my other colleagues, but prepare to make a motion whenever it's appropriate.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead, Vice Mayor. 966
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: I just want to, full disclosure, to say that I am intending to run again for Council, and I… and I think it's just awkward to vote for something that could benefitourselves.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: but I think it's really important to address it, because I do think it is an equity issue.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: And I also think it's a matter of respect. 969
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: what… what… I believe what council members did in 1984, and what we do nowas council members, is vastlydifferent. We serve on a lot more committees.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: And we have a lot more email and information that we're dealing with. They didn't have that in 1984.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: And, I did a little Google search to see what $300 972
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: in 1984 would be today, and it's… I think it was $950, $960. So, in 1984, you could rent a one-bedroom apartment for $300. You just can't do that today. 973
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: So, I just… for me, it's a matter of respect, and I know that it is… it is kind of painful to jump a salary so much.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: But I did want to clarify on the cost allocation plan, and please correct me if I'm misunderstanding this, but that plan is based on the 2 years prior. 975
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: So, any raise now would not affect theplanthis year, or even, I don't even think next year. And then we can… we do plan to bring the cost allocation plan back with thecouncil salaries, so I don't think that affects it. Can you,clarify if I understand that correctly?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's incorrect, Vice Mayor. 977
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Is correct?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, that is correct. 979
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Oh, okay, thank you.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: And so I do support it.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: And the… yeah, we took… we discussed this at the Budget Committee also. I don't think that that was mentioned, but we both supported it, so… Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: comments before I make mine? Yeah, so just briefly, you gotta comment when it's super awkward to give yourself a raise. 983
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Especially when the optics aren't so good during years where the budget feels like it's struggling.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But, that's exactly why we need people that can come in with a lot of skills and a lot of time toreally put really strong effort into this position, and we need to make sure that it's respected and there's a reason for it. And so, I support it for that reason. And when looking at the budget this year and seeing if there's space for it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's a… it's a… it is always difficult. 986
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to put everything in the world into a budget, and you know you have to make cuts and space for things, and I think this is a doable and worthy, addition.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, and my thoughts are, I want to echo Councilmember Zolman's concerns about, you know, if we're ever going to get any kind of diversity on this council.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: $300 just doesn't cut it for many people. I mean, I've talked to even people who are, you know, college students who have said they've considered, but why would they do this for $10 a day?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And the amount of effort that we have to put in, and frankly, I mean, $950 doesn't even go that far, but I feel that at least that's a step toward making progress with this, and I, you know, I mean, 40 years without a change, and it is awkward, it's…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it's not just us, you know, we're here right now, we can't experience that raise right now, but it is also for the future, for many people, and trying to at least open up the opportunity to others who might otherwise, you know, not want to run. So, for that, I'm in support of this as well. So, I don't know if you wanted to make a motion. Sure, I'll go ahead and make a recommendation to 991
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Follow staff's recommendation. 992
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, I can't hear ya. 993
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll second it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. So moved by Councilmember Zolman, and seconded by CouncilmemberCarter to direct city staff. You've received the report, and you're going to direct city staff to come back with, a compensation allowable under state law. We will need to bring it back for an ordinance for the introduction, and then a second meeting after that. Am I understanding that you are going to do the $950? 995
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Pretty neat.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is that your understanding, too? Thank you.
Councilmember Carter?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Councilmember Zolman? 998
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Yes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Mayor McLewis? Yes. Councilmember Hinton is absent. The motion passes 4 to 1, with Councilmembers Carter, Zolman, Vice Mayor Maurer, and Mayor McLewis in support, and Councilmember Hinton absent. All right, thank you very much.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, that concludes our discussion and action public hearing, and then we are on to additional public comment for items that were not on the agenda, and if you did not make a public comment at the very beginning, so… 1002
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Mayor. As you just stated, this is the second public comment period. If you would like to make a public comment, and you were not able to make a public comment at the beginning of the meeting, please, I will come into chambers first.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I'll go out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom, please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, there is no public comment. 1005
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, boy, we're moving along here. Let's see, Councilmember request for future City Council agenda items. Does anyone have a request?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No? Okay. Alright, so now, we'll go to, City Council, City Staff Reports, so ourCity Manager.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. So just a… we have a gender review meeting tomorrow in the afternoon. I did, another round of associate planner interviews today, so we'll see what comes out of that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I have been getting emails about status of projects, so some key projects. I just wanted to do it here. I mean, we also have… well, are doing an FAQ on the website, but, Grocery Outlet, that application is incomplete still, so there is nothing scheduled yet, so, there is no
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Planning Commission meeting is scheduled yet.
The 8100 Valentine Avenue housing project, that application is incomplete as well, so there's no meeting scheduled for that as well.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then the farmer's market expansion that they requested a use permit, that application is incomplete as well. So, we've been getting requests about when these meetings are taking place, and none of these are scheduled yet because these applications are incomplete.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So other than that, that is it. I have a City Manager meeting on Thursday, and
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Working on the budget. 1013
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, thank you. So, Councilmember Zolman, you wanted to… Yes,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, right before I came from this meeting, there has been a group of electeds that serve on the Homeless Coalition Board that meets with Nolan, our Department of Public Health, and as I have repeatedly said, there have been multiple meetings
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Trying to deal with the federal change of policy related to permanent supportive housing, howthat's going to affect the current 1016
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: permanent supportive housing, 1017
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, if you're curious about where projects ended up with the scoring, you can look at that. The full vote, because there is not going to be enough money.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So the board will have to make hard choices, will be not… has been delayed until June, because some of the ranking has been very startling to some of the projects.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Last time we were here, Mary did indicate that the two of us would be up in Sacramento for the CIRA conference. 1021
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: part of the board meeting, there was a closed session for us board members. One of our cases were… was heard during that time, and I do have an agenda item that comes
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: from the discussions and what I heard and what I saw, and that will be coming before, apparently, agenda review tomorrow afternoon. So that's my report.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Did anyone else have… 1025
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: because we just raised our salaries, let you know that I'm on, like, 5 boards, and we've been doing all kinds of things, like the Sonoma… I went to the Sonoma Zero Way Sonoma Symposium, that was… 1027
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: also amazing in trying to figure out more ways what, in our city, we can do to, get to zero. And, in the Climate Action Committee, we've talked about forming
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: a better network with our partners in Windsor, and 1029
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Petaluma, and obviously tried to do a little bit better getting net zero.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: At the Apple Blossom and some other things.
Then I'm also part of the Enterprise
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oversight Committee, which is strongly focused on our cost allocation model right now, dealing with, a lot of… 1032
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: citizen input, and we've made a lot of progress, and I think that there's a lot of transparency that's come from this, and it will have a great impact on how we plan for our water and sewer going forward. And then, I'm also on the, Budget Committee.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Duh.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Which is actually great fun. You know, this is the moment where we can really do good work, and I really strongly feel like, Sebesto's in the place to actually be proactive rather than reactive. I'm really, really happy with the way things are going. We do need to work on increasing our top line. 1035
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Which is the revenues coming in, and these are different than cutting costs, but these are… these are things that haven't been looked at before, and we're gonna go at that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I feel like there's probablyother stuff, but, I'm out of breath.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: one of the things that I noted was they are very much encouraging art, and I've been hearing that lately from different sources. 1040
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Where, you know, artists are encouraged to make their art, and 1041
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: At the symposium, they had a bunch of recycled stuff, so you could make
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: little things out of trash. And I, I do clay work, so I took home 5 bodies of little toys, and I could make little clay heads for them. Anyway, it's very healing to make art. I think it's really needed at this time.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: But one of the things I wanted to say about the Zero Waste Symposium is about the idea of food recovery, and how
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: right now, the model is food recovery is seemed… it's kind of seen as a volunteer contribution. And where the… where the industry needs to really go is that food recovery is part of the service of
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Selling food.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: And, I thought that was really important. 1047
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: I met with Barbara Hom, on the farm… farm market… farmers market application,
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: I learned, at the meet and greet for the HARC personnel, personnel, I learned that,
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: That there are housing initiatives where you can… we could get, like, either an elder community or elder housing, low-income elder housing built, or lowincome 1052
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: family housing built, and then you can put families in there, you're not restricted with this coordinated entry. And I'm not sure how to get there, but this was something that Nolan had told me about that morning, so I wanted to pass that on, because it seems important to be attracting families.
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Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer: Thanks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay. This is only because I think it's helpful for you guys to know that I met, with… with Barbara Home, whatnot. 1056
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I attended their board meeting so that we could set up a, another meeting with a downtown association and the farmer's market, so that was something else, and then the Creative Commons continues to move along fast. 1057
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For me, as mayor, I attended the Ivespool 85th, 85-year celebration, and,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and they showed… they have a new sign. The city manager and I both attended that celebration with them. And then last Thursday, I attended the, the mayor's board meeting in the city of Sonoma, and I wanted to share a few talking points
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the county, executives came and spoke with us about HR1, or the… also known as the Big, beautiful bill, and the impacts it's going to have on our community, so I just… bear with me, I want to just share a few of these, like, just talking points of what they wanted us to make sure all of our community people are aware of.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For adults on Medi-Cal, HR1 will implement work requirements for some adults, and it doubles the frequency of application renewal for all enrollees, and
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, that creates significant laborcosts to the county, trying tokeep, everybody enrolled in that, and then H.R. 1 will also significantly decrease access and increase costs for people with unsatisfactory immigration status. 1063
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And the county's estimating that about 20% of the current Medi-Cal recipients in this county,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Could likely lose coverage, and they're saying that for people losing that coverage, the county's obligated to provide locally funded healthcare, so that's a challenge.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And it's gonna be one moving forward. And then the county's primary strategy with dealing with this, with the county's indigent care responsibilities, is to try and make sure that people are enrolled, as I just mentioned. And… but there's a very high cost to this. The administrative efforts is estimated to add more than $7 million to the county budget coming up.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And the additional Medi-Cal medical services for those losing eligibility is gonna be between $50 and $80 million to our community. And then HR1 also has similar impact on food assistance programs. 1067
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The county's estimating that about 30% or 13,000 of the existingCalFreshrecipients are going to lose that benefit, and the lost cash benefits to individuals is estimated to be over $1.4 million monthly here in Sonoma County. 1068
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, the Redwood Empire Food Bank is estimating this will become about a $2.5 to a $5 million annual need increase for them. 1069
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, the impact dates of these changes roll out over the next 6 months to a year, so they wanted to come and just brief all the mayors on that, sothat we're all aware of what's going onand what their efforts are goingto be, so… 1070
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Ithinkwe're all just staying tuned to find out more, but in an effort, all the cities over, you know, are making an attempt to… trying to work better with the county and communicate more about what's happening in all of our communities, and so that's why they came out and did this presentation. 1071
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For all of us. So that's a meeting that I attended on Thursday. We all…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Had many questions and expressed a lot of concern about that, and people in our community, and then let me just get to my calendar. 1073
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Trying to think…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think yesterday? Oh, I attended… I think a couple of us attended the, the meet and greet with, DHS, you know, at the… yesterday at Taylor Lane. So, that is my update for everyone. I just wanted to share that so that everyone's in tune with what I'm hearing as the mayor in these meetings, so… 1075
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, well then, I guess, are we okay to adjourn, Mary? All right, we're good. Perfect, before 9pm.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We're adjourned.
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MARY, ARE WE JUST ABOUT -- OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. APOLOGIES FOR THE DELAY. WE HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS TO IRON OUT, BUT WE'RE READY TO GO. LET'S SEE. THE FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS DO A CALL TO ORDER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY VERY QUICKLY. IF I
HAPPEN TO STAND UP, IT'S BECAUSE I JUST HAD SURGERY A WEEK AGO, AND
OCCASIONALLY I FEEL I NEED TO STAND UP, AND IT FEELS A LITTLE ODD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MEETING, BUT IT'S JUST BECAUSE I HAD SURGERY, AND I NEED TO DO THAT. SO IT MAY COME AS ODD. BUT JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE. GO AHEAD, MARY.
SO THIS IS FOR ROLL CALL. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?
HERE.
COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
YES.
VICE MAYOR MAURER IS REMOTE. SHE'S THERE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT THERE.
DO YOU NEED ME TO READ THIS JUST CAUSE THING?
YES, PLEASE.
SO I'M PARTICIPATING REMOTELY FOR JUST CAUSE UNDER AB4229. THERE IS NO ONE IN
THE ROOM WITH ME, AND I'LL PARTICIPATE THROUGH BOTH AUDIO AND VISUAL TECHNOLOGY DURING THIS MEETING.
THANK YOU. MAYOR MCLEWIS?
HERE.
WILL AND COUNCILMEMBER HINTON IS RUNNING LATE.
OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE TOOK CARE OF REMOTE PARTICIPATION, SO NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO ABSOLUTE TO THE FLAG, IF YOU'LL STAND WITH ME. I PLEDGE
ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC
FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THE NEXT THING WE DO AT EVERY MEETING, WE HAVE A LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT. THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL ACKNOWLEDGES THAT WE LIVE AND
WORK WITH THE UNCEDED ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THE SOUTHERN POMO AND THE COAST MIWOK PEOPLE. WE PAY OUR RESPECT TO THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE
GENERATIONS OF THESE PEOPLES, INCLUDING THE FED RATED INDIANS OF GRATON RANCHERIA. AND AS PART OF MY YEAR OF BEING MAYOR, EVERY MEETING, I BRING FORTH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY PIECE. I WORK WITH TERESA ROMANDO IN OUR WEST COUNTY MUSEUM TO BRING THIS FORTH. AND THE REASON I FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT
IS BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE ITEMS THAT COME BEFORE US THAT ACTUALLY CAME
YEARS AGO, DIFFERENT ITEMS, SO I THINK IT IS ALWAYS GOOD FOR US TO REMEMBER THE HISTORY, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR CELEBRATION COMING UP NEXT YEAR. SO WITH THAT SAID, AS FAR AS CITY MANAGER, WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS THIS TIME. THIS IS ABOUT OUR LIBRARIES. IT'S BEEN A POINT OF DISCUSSION IN THE MEETINGS RECENTLY. SO I DON'T KNOW.
I'M NOT BEING ALLOWED TO SHARE MY SCREEN. SO I.T., CAN YOU ENSURE I HAVE SHARING CAPABILITIES, PLEASE?
I CAN START READING WHILE -- CAN YOU GO TO THE FIRST ONE? THE CARNEGIE ONES? THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT -- IT'S THE OTHER PAGE.
WE ARE HAVING A GLITCH WITH THE SHARING, BECAUSE ON MY COMPUTER, IT IS NOT SHOWING UP ON THE SCREEN.
OKAY, SO I HAVE THIS INFORMATION ON WHAT WAS CALLED THE SEBASTOPOL CARNEGIE LIBRARY. IT WAS BUILT IN 1916. WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE AFTER THE CURRENT LIBRARY WAS BUILT. BUT BUILT IN 1916 OF THE STYLE KNOWN AS THE CLASSIC REVIVAL C BY PETALUMA ARCHITECT. THE CARNEGIE LIBRARY WAS DEMOLISHED IN DECEMBER 1975 TO MAKE WAY FOR THE LARGER NEW SEBASTOPOL LIBRARY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TODAY. CARNEGIE LIBRARIES WERE BUILT WITH MONEY DONATED BY SCOTTISH AMERICAN BUSINESSMAN, ANDREW CARNEGIE. MORE THAN 2,500 LIBRARIES Agenda Item Number 1
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WERE BUILT, INCLUDING THOSE BELONGING TO PUBLIC AND UNIVERSITY LIBRARY SYSTEMS. OF THE 2,500 LIBRARIES FUNDED BETWEEN 1883 AND 1929, 1,689 WERE BUILT IN THE UNITED STATES AND SEBASTOPOL IS ONE OF THEM. IN THE EARLY 20th CENTURY,
CARNEGIE CENTURY WAS THE MOST IMPOSING STRUCTURE AND HUNDREDS OF SMALL AMERICAN COMMUNITIES. MOST OF THE LIBRARY BUILDINGS WERE UNIQUE, DISPLAYING A NUMBER OF THE ARCHITECTURAL RURAL STYLES. EACH CHOSEN BY THE COMMUNITY.
CALIFORNIA'S SECOND ONLY TO INDIANA AND THE NUMBER OF CARNEGIE LIBRARIES BUILT WITH 142 TO 165. SO THAT IS THE PICTURE UP THERE OF THE PREVIOUS LIBRARY
THAT WE HAD BEFORE THE NEW ONE WAS BUILT, AND WE HAD THOSE PICTURES UP
THERE INITIALLY, SO I APPRECIATE EVEN INDULGING ME, SHARING THAT PIECE OF INFORMATION, AND I THINK WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. THE NEXT THING IS WE
DON'T HAVE ANY PROCLAMATIONS OR PRESENTATIONS THIS TIME, AND I SHOULD SAY THANK YOU TO TERESA, AGAIN, FOR PUTTING THESE HISTORY PIECES TOGETHER. I
WANTED TO CHECK TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS STATEMENTS OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, AND ALSO LET EVERYONE KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER HINTON IS HERE NOW. ANY -- Agenda Item Number 1
NO, I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE, BUT I DID LET THE CITY MANAGER KNOW I WILL HAVE TO DEPART TONIGHT AT 7:30 DUE TO AN IMPORTANT WORK COMMITMENT.
OKAY, NO PROBLEM. NO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. SO IF YOU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT UP TO TWO MINUTES. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO AGAIN, THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT IS A 20-MINUTE TIME LIMIT. IT IS TWO MINUTES PER PERSON. WE DO CHAMBER FIRST, THEN GO OUT TO ZOOM, BACK TO CHAMBER, BACK TO ZOOM. IT IS
ABOUT TEN PEOPLE, AND THEN WE DO HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AT THE END OF THE MEETING. SO IF YOU DID NOT GET TO TALK DURING THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, THERE IS A SECOND. SO I WILL COME TO CHAMBERS FIRST. IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE, COME UP TO THE PODIUM. AND I'LL JUMP IN WHEN YOU HAVE ABOUT 20 SECONDS LEFT.
FIRST OF ALL, HOW IS EVERYONE HERE TODAY? GOOD, I HOPE. SO BEFORE I START TODAY, ALSO MY BUSINESS PARTNER COULD JOIN ME AS WELL. AND AFTER I SPEAK. BUT I'M CHRIS AUSTIN, FROM A.M. BARBECUE. I WANTED TO COME HERE TODAY, THAT WAY I COULD MEET ALL OF YOU AND KIND OF SPEAK TO YOU DIRECTLY. SO I KNOW I DON'T
KNOW A LOT OF YOU, BUT I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT, IF IT IS OKAY, TO SHARE WHO I AM, AND HOW LONG I'VE KIND OF BEEN AROUND. SO I FIRST CAME TO THIS TOWN IN 2012.
I'M MARRIED TO DIANA HILTON, FORMERLY LINDA TYE, SO I'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY SINCE 2012, WHERE I COACH, I COACH A LOT OF THE KIDS. I WORKED AT COACH'S CORNER, TRAINING THE ELDERLY. I'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME DOING A LOT OF WORK IN THE BACKGROUND. SO BEING A REPRESENTATIVE OF A.M.
BARBECUE, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE I COME FROM. I COME ALSO FROM A SMALL TOWN, SO I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE A PART OF A COMMUNITY. I KNOW
WHAT IT IS LIKE TO SHARE, TO NOT WANT TO BE A NUANCE, TO WANT TO BE ACTUALLY A HELP TO THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU LIVE IN. THAT'S HOW I WAS RAISED. SO BEING HERE TODAY AND SPEAKING ON WHAT WE DO, AND SPEAKING ON AM BARBECUE. EVER SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE IN TOWN, THAT'S ALL WE TRY TO DO IS BE A HELP. WE NEVER WANT TO BE A NUANCE OR A PROBLEM. WE'VE ALWAYS STRIVE TO DO MORE. WE DONATE. WE MAKE SURE WE'RE AT ANY CHARITY EVENTS WE COULD POSSIBLY BE. SO TO HEAR SOME
OF THE THINGS THAT WERE WRITTEN IS NOT A GREAT REPRESENTATION OF WHO I ACTUALLY AM AS A PERSON.
YOU HAVE ABOUT 20 SECONDS.
THANK YOU. SO ANYTHING, AGAIN, WE ARE HERE TO BE OF SERVICE AND NOT A PROBLEM. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. MARIAH, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
YEAH, HI, THERE. I CAN SEE THE TIMER.
THANK YOU.
OKAY, GREAT. I'M JUST HOPPING ON TO GIVE A BIG THANK YOU TO THE CITY FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL. WE HAD A GREAT WEEKEND. THE PARADE Agenda Item Number 1
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