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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Do my council members want to ask questions of Finn.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so we I'm willing to do that. That's okay. 1164
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sure, Finn, can you unmute yourself, please? 1165
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Finn Liss: Yep, can you hear me.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, we can hear you. Thank you. 1167
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Finn Liss: Yeah, thanks for letting me speak again. Sure.
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Finn Liss: Couple things. The comments I just heard about how we started at the deli. 1169
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Finn Liss: I guess my question to you guys, how are we still not a deli? We sell meat by the weight, and wesellsides and delicontainers. Whatclassifies what's a deliand nota deli? 1170
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Finn Liss: There's been conversations about that around us, that we're not a deli anymore.
At the end of the day.
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Finn Liss: We could talk all day long about what we really are. But if you really want to pinpoint it, I would. I could stay with Philadelphia.
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Finn Liss: As far as the zoning, look, we… Everything happened so fast. 1173
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Finn Liss: And it didn't work. It wasn't just about the smoke. Then the arguments being that we weren't in the correct zoning.
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Finn Liss: Right, then the question becomes, well then, how were we allowed to open in the 1st place? Obviously, there were mistakes made in 5.
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Finn Liss: Offline.
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Finn Liss: We were awarded Business of the Year by the Chamber of Commerce when we were already operating with those smokers, so everyone knew what we were doing. 1177
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Finn Liss: The reason the zoning thing has come up today is because that was recommended to us by city managers.
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Finn Liss: She suggested that we file this motion. That was the advice we weregiving by the City Council.
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Finn Liss: So… That's why we're here. The second reason we're here is 1180
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Finn Liss: Given all of this going on, we don't know how much time we really do or don't have, right? So even if we fix the smoker issue, there's still the arguments that are being made that were not in the correct zone.
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Finn Liss: So we have to look at all aspects of.
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Finn Liss: How we protect our business, and…
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Finn Liss: If the reality is we can't be there because of zoning. 1184
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Finn Liss: Right? Okay, wegotta find anotherlocation. And we'reworkingwith Sebastopol, but we're not getting a whole lot of response from the building department.
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Finn Liss: Like I said, Bill Carter's been the only one that has really even helped us Look at property.
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Finn Liss: So it's all because of the time pressure. We don't know how long we can stay there before somebody ultimately just says, okay, you can't be here anymore. So what we're doing is looking at properties.
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Finn Liss: Seeing if something can be done about the zoning, seeing if we get some filtration for the smokers, will that mean we can stay? But what I'm hearing now is even if we get something to fix the smoke, that we're still not in the rightzoning. 1188
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Finn Liss: So just from our perspective, we're exploring all avenues to make everything right.
We want our neighbors to be happy.
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Finn Liss: Right? Again, these things take time. If we had known earlier that this was going to be an issue, we might have had this solved by now.
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Finn Liss: Wearefightingforthebusiness and shuttingthebusiness down is justsomething that we can't swallow.
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Finn Liss: We are actively communicating with City Council members. 1192
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Finn Liss: some people not responding to it. So I would also encourage you guys to… anyone we have written email to reach out to you to get back to us. 1193
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Finn Liss: Keep in mind, we're operating in business. We're very busy. We're working sometimes 12, 14-hour days. If we're not hearing back from members of the city. 1194
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Finn Liss: How much morecan wedo? Dowestartshowingup atyouroffices? Like, we want to meet with ourguys. We want to figure this thing out. 1195
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Finn Liss: Yeah, get this. Get the smoke fix. Okay. But now there's azoning issue. we also need a clear understanding from the city of what we can and can't do. but we can't do it at the expense of losing the business.
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Finn Liss: Given that we've been smoking since we opened. 1198
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Finn Liss: So, that's themain question, too, is how doweend up herein thefirstplace? I think
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Finn Liss: like I said, mistakes were made amongst different people. 1200
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Finn Liss: maybe including us, too. Maybe we should do more research before we open the business in that location. But the city ultimately approved us smoking in that location.
We're happy to collaborate and figure something out.
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Finn Liss: There's financialstrain thatcomes with thesesolutions, right? Dowewantto build a water scrubber that costs $50,000, and then we're told a month later that we have to leave anyway because of the zoning issue? So I think the best thing forward here is for us to get together and really come up with a plan.
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Finn Liss: But it can't happen at the expense of us losing our business. 1203
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Finn. Councilmember Carter, you have a question?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't really see. 1205
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What I want is for businesses to feel like they're in a stable environment. It's really hard to operate when things feel 1206
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: shaky, and you don't know what's gonna happen next. So, even though Ithink the order of operations is that we fix the smoke, I think they Agenda Item Number 1
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should feel confident that if they do fix the smoke and everything's fine, that we can look at the zoning then.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If they… if they want to stay. And if they move, then that isn't an exercise we have to go through. But I would like the business to feel confident that, you know, fixing the smoke then leads to,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, the zoning that they need to stay, that would be great.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I'm not sure that we need to do the zoning first. I just don't want to get the cart before the horse. 1210
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Any other comments or emotion. 1211
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SebastopolCommunityCulturalCenter: Yeah,I'llgoahead and moveStaff's recommendation, because I think that what they've laid out will be able to educate all of us.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: about our different options, and during the time that that will take it's like A. And M. May decide that it doesn't cost $55,000 for an air cleaner. Maybe it's closer to 33,000, and maybe they will set up a gofundme. And so maybe over the course of time, while both are doing their due diligence. 1213
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: we'll be able to arrive at a happy medium where we're protecting everyone's public health and supporting diverse businesses. So I move staff'srecommendation.
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SebastopolCommunity CulturalCenter:CanIask forclarification?Because Staff recommended Two things.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so I'm not sure which one you're you're reporting. IIunderstood thestaffreportas having
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Requesting time.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to do the analysis on the two options that are set forth. And so that's why I sent the email to Mary about asking how much it would be for Alex's time.And then tonight we got definitive proof about how muchit's goingto toss for planningstaff. Soforme, it's worth threehours of his timeand up to18hours of hertime.
I'll stick with that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, we have a motion and a second. Can we take a roll call? So moved by Councilmember Zollman and seconded by Councilmember Cartage, who's your ex-staff, to return to a future Council meeting with both options reviewed and analyzed for the allowance of commercial outdoor barbecue smokers within the zoning district.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: with the Cup or other similar entitlements.
Councilmember Carter.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can I ask a question in the middle of a vote? 1221
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Like, like, is anything, like, conditional? Like, must, must the business
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: meet certain standards for, you know, like, we can approve this, but, like, in order to go forward with the actual process, can we, you know. 1223
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: mandate certain performance by the business. So if the, you know, their conditional permit was issued, there can be conditions of approval on that permit.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, requiring whatever the Council might decide.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So we, so, just so I can get this straight, so first you change
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The zoning, and then they get a conditional use permit.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, we can process those simultaneously. So the use… the zoning change gets approved, and at the same meeting, the use permit gets approved. And the use permit can be… Can have conditions of approval. 1228
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: associated with it. So these are these are, you know. Sometimes we put conditions of approval about hours of operation, or 1229
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, things like that. So you could do, if there are concerns about
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Smoking, you could have, you know, conditions of approval related to that, and they often have time frames about when the condition has to besatisfied.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, right now, we're just, like… 1232
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: your time isthinking about it. Right now, staff will bring back the two options for how the zoning change could be 1233
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: how the zoning code could be changed with a detailed analysis of what the implications of each option could be, and that the council can then look at those options and say, move forward with option A, move forward with option B, don't move forward with either of them. Okay. And…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, I I get it. I that's so. Yeah. Yes. 1235
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Councilmember Hinton. 1236
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Neysa Hinton: Bye.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zollman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer? Yes. Mayor McLewis is absent. Motion passes four to one for Councilmember Carter, Hinton, Zollman, and Vice Mayor Maurer
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: discussion and approval of budget amendment for initial invoices for testing and mold, removal, etc, and discussion of proposed cost and timeline for library remediation.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This item is to approve the initial emergency response to the mold that was found at the library, and to talk through the phase one remediation that we're proposing to do there. I'm going to bring up a slideshow and just kind of run through
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: where we've been and where we're headed. So we're all on the same page on this discussion.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: some mold, some warping in the library wallpaper on the exterior walls, and the city has owns the building and leases it to the library. So the exteriorwalls of thebuildingarethecity's responsibility. Librarystaffproactivelyclosed the library on the afternoon of June 4.th
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Library staff thenext day, after all the public wasn't there and the staff wasn't there, went into the walls to see if they could determine what was going on.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: At that point, they were in contact with Public Works, and we had, an environmental specialist go out there as well. They advised that we stop making the holes in the walls, because we might possibly spread any potential mold 1248
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: into the 2 areas where they had originally seen the wallpaper warping.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So when nobody was there, we tested the air in the two areas, so the staff room and the teenage reading room where wall material had been removed.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and we found to have elevated mold in those two areas. They tested the common room as well, and the other staff areas, and there were no elevated mold readings in any of those areas.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So this is what happened. This was Friday. We did this testing. This is the specialist doing it, and we sent the mold or the testing that they'd done to an outside lab where it was identified that the mold that we're seeing on the wallpaper is black mold.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So we asked them to contain it and begin remediation. That's the phase one emergency work. Again, we did not find any elevated mold within the main areas of the library. It was just in those two enclaves where the excavation happened into the wall.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So they contained those, they put in HEPA filters throughout the library while they were doing that work, and they began remediating the walls, so they removed the wallpaper.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: within those areas, and they found that the mold is pretty substantial underneath the wallpaper again, just in these 2 areas. This took them from June fifth to June sixteenth. They removed all of the sheetrock. They removed the batting that was underneath, and remediated the area and cleaned the the 1255
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Framing.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What they found in the teen reading room is that after they had removed all of the sheetrock, there's some structural damage to that west wall of the building. Again, this is just in one little wall, we don't know what else is going on, this is just in the areas that they've exposed.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But while they were doing that, they did some moisture testing in the other areas in the library, both that they'd exposed and on the places where the wallpaper is, and you can see other areas where there's peeling wallpaper around the exterior of the building.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So the initial assessment is that there's likely additional mold around the exterior of the building that's being held in by the wallpaper. 1260
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So what we're proposing as a next step, we need to approve the emergency invoice that they have given us, but we also have pricing to 1261
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We're going to isolate the walls of the exterior building, havethelibrarystaffhelp us moveallthebooks and stufftothecenter, do containment like you saw in the teen area around those exterior walls, and then start pulling back that wallpaper to see how extensive the mold is behind the wallpaper and pull the sheetrock off from there and remediate those wall areas. So that isthe pricing that is before you for
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: approval tonight.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Once we have all those areas exposed, and you can see the framing beneath the sheetrock, we'll be able to make a better of assessment about what the structural damage is to the building. At this point, we're really just guessing, so trying to get costing for what a full repair would look like. 1264
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: is a very big estimate. So I've gotten some just preliminary costs on what we think it might be to reconstruct, assuming the level of damage that we saw in the team room. But we're going to have contractors come in once we have the walls exposed and do a better bid for the project. 1265
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So this is… well, Phase 1 was the initial, cost of the emergency response to decontaminate the two rooms that were exposed. The price was $47,000. The library has agreed to cost-share that with us at a 50-50 split, so the cost to Sebastopol is $23,000.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 844. And then we've received one price, and I'm looking for two more proposals from qualifiedremediating companies to come in and do that exposure of the exterior walls, and clean up any mold that we do find there, up to the $175,000, which is the one price I currently have.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: At that point, kind of the preliminary estimates that we're getting from that same contractor is that reconstruction would be on the order of $200,000 to do any structural repair, to put the sheetrock back, to put the 1268
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: installation back and put us back together. So this is kind of our projected, total budget. As we know right now, that Phase 3 is very preliminary. We need more information before we can really assess what that number is.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: As indicated, we currently have a balance of $594,000 in.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I am.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can you tell us what that total was? I couldn't quite see it from here.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Was it 3 38,000.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 398. 398, thank you. So about $400,000. Again, that phase 3 is
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: a very preliminary estimate, and will likely change.
Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So what requesting of council tonight is approving the invoice we already have for the original immediate remediation of the teen room and thestaffarea.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For the containment and the cleanup, and then approval for the second phase to, expose the rest of the exterior walls, clean up the mold that we find, and then assess the structural damage behind that. 1277
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And as Mary indicated earlier, we've been working with the library to try tofind them some temporary locations for the bus and facilities and classes, and we're still in that process.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I'll pause. And we're here for questions as best as we can at this point.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, thank you, and honestly, I think that that information you just shared was not what I read in the staff report, so that to me is actually astounding. So, when I said earlier, in reference to the other agenda item, that those two were pretty much tied together, this building the Sebastopol Commons. 1281
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and then this whole remediation. So really, with what's been spent already, and I appreciate the library chipping in for half of it. That's not unprecedented, and I really want to be clear about this. I sat on the Library Commission as an appointee of this city, and I know for sure
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that the library did chip in on substantial other necessary repairs for other sister cities.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The HVAC in Santa Rosa. 1284
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, you could correct me if I'm wrong, but that was my understanding, the fact that there are exceptions. So, I'm seeing heads shaking, so you can refute it back, the fact that that is not true. But the fact of the matter is, we're now talking about something of, like.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the 3, 98, 44, plus the 100,000 that we did, and that we're being asked to
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: repay or to approve in hindsight, that already brings it up to a half a million dollars for a building that the library administration has already said in its report 10 years ago, that's not the right size for us. So what are we really doing?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I mean, not with the price that's being put forth now. I think that this probably is something that it's just like we need to really have a strong think of, of whether we're gonna approve $500,000 for a building we're gonna hope to get fixed with mold and with dry rot, to what?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: questions, questions. 1291
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is is there any indication of timeline? 1292
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The next phase of the remediation will take about 3 weeks, and then we'll need to have contractors go in and give us some pricing. Once the walls are exposed. Look at the structural damage.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, like, construction… In in some like. 1294
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I reconstruction may not take very long, so this could be a month, or could be 2 months. The remediation piece will be at least a month, and then we'll bring back pricing to do the reconstruction to this council. 1295
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that thinking about process will take 3 weeks?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Like at post remediation, that's a month. 1297
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then will it take 1 or 2 or 3 weeks to. 1298
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, and perhaps I can answer this question. The city has obligations to publicly bid contracts, so depending on the amount of the contract. 1300
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Don't quote me on this exactly. I think it's 225. If it's below $225,000, we can informally bid it. That still involves a little bit of formality. 1301
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If it's above that, we have to do a formal bid. That involves publishing notice, sending out notice to bid, receiving that. You usually have that open for 2 weeks to receive bids. Bids are then brought to the Council for 1302
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: approval. So being drywall, your estimation is this is over $225,000?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That was. Well.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I have already had contractors look at it and start thinking about how they would provide pricing. It's just really hard to tell when we don't know what kind of structural damage there is. So people are already thinking about it. They just need to come back in once the walls are exposed. So yes, I think we can turn around pricing relatively quickly once we have it exposed.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And and just a reminder for for council member council members. The city has to pay prevailing wage on all of its construction project any work over a thousand dollars. So
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The price we pay is much higher than the market rate that a private entity would be able to pay for this type of work. 1308
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Neysa Hinton: That, you know, this is not the right size, but we don't have an immediate plan to figure out money for a new library.
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Neysa Hinton: Unless somebody mentioned a full teardown. But I can't imagine this building must be valued at.
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Neysa Hinton: Millions, 10 million? I, I, I was just curious because really what we're reinvesting is a percentage.
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Neysa Hinton: of what it's valued at. It is our building. We have to repair it, even if it's not the home of the library. I would assume it would be the home of something else. 1316
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Neysa Hinton: Maybe. Or I just can't imagine a full teardown. 1317
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So yeah, Councilman Member Carr, you may be able to talk to it more. I'd be referring to the same assessment that we did with the building of the Commons, where the whole parcel is 3.6, and the library is some larger than half portion of that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So to Oriana's point, it's some portion of 3.5 million dollars, and it's worth less as if somebody wants to build on top of it and do a different thing, and we have to rezone it. But for us, the replacement value is probably 1320
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 2 million-ish.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, you know, to throw $400,000 or less into it is probably safe to have a place to have a library.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I think, you know, to have, in my opinion, that now that I'm just talking.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Could we please just stick to questions, and then we'll go out to public comment. Councilmember Zolman. Yeah. So my question is the fact that to Oriana the
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the library… the building where the library is now was built at the same time as City Hall, right? So when's the last time City Hall's been looked at? If there is mold and dry rot in the library, are you saying the fact that you don't really feel like the same existed
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the same set of circumstances exists for our staff, notlikeI'mnotconcerned forlibrarystaff. I'mconcerned about, like, a publichealth issue, and our due diligence, and making sure that the City Hall isn't also falling apart, because we've never really looked in the walls. So, can you answer that? 1329
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, what we're finding in the library is that they had wallpaper against the sheetrock and was holding in moisture, and we don't know what's causing the moisture to be there, so that's one of the things we're gonna look at when we pull all of it off.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But because that wallpaper was not letting the sheetrock breathe, that is the primary reason we're assuming that the mold is there. So we're not seeing that at City Hall. City Hall has sheetrock.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I… don't believe that we have the same issues there. Okay, thanks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Vice Mayor. So this is public comment on the Sebastopol Library situation. If you'd like to make a public comment, we go to inperson for… Councilmember Hinton, I believe, has a question. Erica, just for a second, I. 1335
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Neysa Hinton: Yeah, I just had one more question.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Neysa Hinton: As I just heard that there's wallpaper in the library. I'm curious, who put that wallpaper up? Because if we didn't put it in City Hall, was that put up by library staff or by the city?
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Neysa Hinton: And that goes to a point that we got from a member of the public that was asking about liability, and so I'm wondering who put that 1339
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Neysa Hinton: Wallpaper up because a lot of people know wallpaper isn't really great for houses. You know, we've learned.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's my understanding that the library did it during one of the remodels.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, now, we will go out to public comment.
Erica. Thank you. Erica Chabot, library director. I'm glad to be here as part of this discussion.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just want to express my strong support and the library's strong support for staff recommendation to authorize the phase 2 remediation. 1343
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: so that we can continue moving this project forward. The city and the library have a long history of working together to provide library servicetoSebastopol, and Iwanttothankthecitystaff, especiallyOriana, Mary, and Cynthia at the Community Center. While we're working on some temporary library services. 1344
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The library's also demonstrated its commitment by providing 50% of the reimbursement for the phase one emergency, and I'm also willing to take the phase 2 cost to the Library Commission and ask them to 1345
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To share in that responsibility as well. From my perspective, paying for the remediation, the repair is much cheaper than moving to a new library. I can share that when we had a temporary location in Healdsburg, that was a community center, it was a turnkey building, it was $400,000. 1346
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: from the library's funds to move to that location.
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staff workstations, wehad to do some repairs. When wehad a temporary building at the Petaluma, Kenilworth Teen Center, that was a million dollars. 1347
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: in funding for the temporary space, and that was for a building that we occupied for a year that we will never use again. 1348
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, from my perspective, $200,000 to the repairs and the remediation is significantly more cost-effectivethan purchasinga building. We also will be able to provide a higher level of service at the library than we can in a temporary space.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And you know, given that the length of time that the library will be closed to me, it just makes good sense to repair the existing building while we work on a long-term plan for a future larger library. Thank you. 1350
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Erica, for your public comment. I'll go out to Zoom
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Lee: Yes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Can you see the timer still. 1354
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Lee: Thank you. Thank you.
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Lee: Yeah, just a comment on history, and I'm really fuzzy on this. This goes back to my comment of not being able to figure out exactly which
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Lee: Cip projects…
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Lee: were planned, and then which ones were done, but I think prior to the CISRCO contract, which goes back several years, there was a CIP project to replace the roof. 1359
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Lee: I think, as part of Cisco, they wanted to do a no cost solar panel job, and that required a roof repair, a roof replacement, and
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Lee: I don't know that that got done.
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Lee: under Cisco's proposal anyway, but it was a contract. But then a couple years ago, there was a CIP project that was for roof repair and solar panels, so maybe that was that project. But anyway, the question would be, did a contractor do something to the roof that, perhaps
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Lee: caused the leak? Or was the leak an artifact, or the reason that the roof really needed to be repaired for so many years?
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Lee: I know Oriana probably is on top of this, but I don't know how much history. 1364
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Lee: they have there. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment. I will come into chambers if there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment. 1366
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go back out to Zoom. Linda, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Linda Robinett: This has been really interesting.
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Linda Robinett: you know, surprised by the library being closed. I haven't managed to get over to
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Linda Robinett: And I was kind of surprised there wasn't a bibliobus for us, but I can see why now, after the description, because past time we had a bibliobus, the actual building was safe. They were just redoing stuff and putting that great new 1371
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Linda Robinett: book discharge system in so they could have a biblio bus during certain days, and we could operate in the library. But I can see the library does a lot more than just 1372
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Linda Robinett: Hand me a book!
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Linda Robinett: and I think unless they really, they're going to lose a lot of that. I mean, they've had music performances there. They've had storytelling for children there continually. I think every Monday they were having
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Linda Robinett: really small children. I remember peeking in and watching the librarian there do a puppet show for really young people. So
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Linda Robinett: And of course, having observed a library for a full day while registering voters there once, we have a lot of the homeless population and other people who don't have computers at home using it.
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Linda Robinett: So I hope we can get it back fast. And I have a feeling just going ahead with this project is probably going to be the fastest way to get the library back. 1377
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Linda, for your public comments.
Next, again, I will come back into cham
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I'll go back out to Zoom. Kyle, can you un.
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Kyle Falbo: I can.
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Kyle Falbo: I can.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Great. Go ahead, please. 1383
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Kyle Falbo: The issue is with just wallpaper and sheetrock and breathing, but yet we saw prior to that, what appeared to be dry rot.
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Kyle Falbo: Which would not be something that would just simply be sheetrock and wallpaper interacting.
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Kyle Falbo: So hopefully we can get some clarity on that. What I've been really fascinated by…
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Kyle Falbo: From public comment, and about around this issue, is about the abysmal public transportation issue.
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Kyle Falbo: That we don't even have the ability for our residents to make it out to these libraries at these other locations as a result of
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Kyle Falbo: reduction in public transportation access for our city. I have regularly criticized the current SCTA rep for the allowance of huge reductions in service offerings from Sebastopol to Santa Rosa, from Sebastopol to Roanoke Park. 1390
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Kyle Falbo: And we are hearing from other members of the public tonight. 1391
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Kyle Falbo: This is a perfect example of this, where we have members of the public with actual needs to leave the city to access
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Kyle Falbo: infrastructure, library infrastructure, that they cannot do reliably as a result of the huge amount of cuts in public transportation access that we've seen over the last 5 to 6 years under the watch of the current SCTA rep.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Kyle, for your public comments. Next, I will come back into chambers. If there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go back out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment, to please raise your hand 1396
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed on this item.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, bringing it back to the dais, for a motion or comments.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I have a comment. 1399
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: My comment is that this council approved major fixes to the communitycenter, knowing that it's in a flood zone. 1400
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and we did that. So I think we need to do the same thing for the library. it wouldn't make sense to me to have a building and not repair it. 1401
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Maybe you could explain that. 1403
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The wallpaper's on the interior of the exterior wallpaper. Okay, thank you. That makes sense. There's decorative wallpaper that was put on, and so the leaking is clearly happening in the wall, and it's going through the sheetrock, but it can't breathe, so it's gonna get stuck. Okay, thank you. I think it's really important 1404
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to do the remediation work, but also to identify where the moisture is coming from, because if you don't identify where the moisture is coming from, it's just going to repeat itself. So my hope is that these contractors that you're working with make that their priorities to identify and remediate wherever the source of moisture is.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then I have,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm wondering about, you know, our library has… when youwalkintoit, ithas a hallway, and onesideof thelibraryis closed off. You'vegot another room on… if you're coming in, anyway, from High Street, you've got a room on the right that's big enough.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: if it doesn't have any mold, why isn't that being used for holes? Because I'm driving to Forestville to pick up my holes, and you could have the holes in a room actually even smaller
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: then what they have in Forestville, that room could be used for holds. So I'm wondering why that room isn't being used for holds, because the rest of the library is sectioned off.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and then you have. You could have. You could even bring in a few computers in there.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I'm wondering if you've looked into that. 1411
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And or please look into that. 1412
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Host #1: We do have the library director here that can address that. Okay, thank you. Appreciate that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That would be the ideal solution that, you know, when the repairs are done, that if the meeting room could be done first, st and then we could, section off the rest of the library so that we could use the meeting room in the way that you suggest.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that would be the ideal solution. But in the interim we are looking at providing a Holtz pickup at the at the community center or other spaces in town. In addition to the Biblio bus stop.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm just wondering why it can't be done now. Is it because you're going to have people coming and going and working in there, because that whole sectionisclosedoff,couldbe closedoff.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: separate.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Potentially, but we are going to do kind of environmental isolation of the whole area, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't know that I'd feel entirely comfortable. I'd feel better if we made it through the 3 weeks of remediating the walls before we did that.
And I think, additionally, we need to assess if there's any mold in the meeting room space as well.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: looking for a motion. I'm just gonna yeah. Move the recommendation.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll second.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so so moved by Councilmember Carter, and seconded by Vice Mayor Maurer to approve the budget amendment for the initial voice invoices for the testing, the mobile removal, and then for the 1422
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Set aside for the $175,000 based upon the bids coming back.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Carter. 1424
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Councilmember Hinton? 1425
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Neysa Hinton: Bye.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zollman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer? Yes. Motion passes 4-1, with Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zollman, and Vice Mayor Maurer in support, and
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We actually want to do the public comment. the second public comment period.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So this is an opportunity for public comment for items that are not on the agenda, and if you did not speak at the very first publiccomment period, if you would like to make a public comment for an item not on the agenda, and again, youdid not speak during the first public comment period, now is your opportunity. I will come to chambers first.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I'll go out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom, please raise your hand virt
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, there is no public comment. 1431
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, so I just wanted to say that, we did hire an associate planner for the spousal planning department.
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SebastopolCommunity CulturalCenter:Itis…we've offeredthe conditionalofferletter, they accepted, they're in background now, so that'll be 4 to 6 weeks for a background check. As I stated earlier, we did receive 3 proposals for planning services, we will be vetting 2 of them, and then moving forward with interviews. 1433
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I am in the process of hiring a former city clerk to do the nominations only, the elections, between July and August. We're still working on her contract, though.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But if she cannot meet the requirements in the contract, then I will be working with city staff to do the nomination period, or the nomination forms. And speaking of that, the nomination period opens on Monday for the city council candidates to pull papers, so July 13th.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: we'll be starting the process, so if there's anyone that wants to come in and talk about running for City Council, please call us. We… these are only by appointments only, so please call us to make an appointment. And that is all I have.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Do we have any reports from council members?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zolman. Thank you. So yes, a number of continuing homeless coalition board meetings, on the permanent support of housing,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: protocol development committee, and we're working with the new executive director, who also is on that from St. Vincent's to Paul, along with the folks from Elderberry, to figureout a way for there to be more 1439
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SebastopolCommunity CulturalCenter:collaborative effortsto addressstartup,issues, should they arise at St. Vincent de Paul, so that's an ongoing work. Also still on the evaluation committee
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for the HUD grants in addition to keeping up with what's going on on the board. So that's my status. Thanks. Thank you. 1441
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anyone else.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, Councilmember Hinton. 1443
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Neysa Hinton: Yeah, I did want to give, just a brief, address a few comments that were made tonight. We have been trying to ask for, Route 29 back from Santa Rosa to the ocean, and we have been denied for a few years.
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Neysa Hinton: Just to address some negative speak from the public. 1446
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Neysa Hinton: as the rep for SCTCA for the last 3 years. Both myself, I've sat on it, and Linda Hopkins has been an appointee, to that board as well for the entire time I've sat on it from the Board of Supervisors, and we continue to lobby to try to get dollars to West… 1447
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Neysa Hinton: West County overall, including Sebastopol, but anybody that follows transportation knows that it's a really tough go right now, and routes are being cut back, and there's a lot of challenges in that,
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Neysa Hinton: Segment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Once again, I'm sure I did something. And I feel like you guys need to be informed about it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm having a little bit of a brain fog, so we'll save it for later. Okay, thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I just have a short report from the 0 waste meeting. We had a presentation by 2 recyclers regarding the Crv. 1454
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Which is the cash.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: whenever you buy a bottle or a can that have a Crv charge. It's like 5 cents or 10 15 cents, whatever it is. These 2 companies do the recycling, and so they we have one right here in Sebastopol. It's at 1,000 highway, 1 16 north. 1456
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And what what's happening is at the store. They are collecting billions of dollars of unredeemed bottles and cans from unredeemed bottles and cans. And they have this big fund, and it's managed by Cal recycle. And basically other agencies borrow from it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So this is so when you put these types of cans and bottles into the recycling.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: SCRR does not receive money for those redemptions.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: They recycle them, but they don't get the redemption value.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So you can go to. 1461
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Let's see, where is it? 1462
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: NorthBayRecycleZone.com, and they have a little video to show you how you can redeem any bottles and cans, so… 1463
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I thought, well, I'll try this, and then I realized we didn't really have that many to do. So really, it works in bulk, works best in bulk. But anyway, you can do this, and you can get a debit card from them, so you can redeem your bottles, get the debit card, and they'll put money on it for you. 1464
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and you can do it all on the computer. You don't have to have a cell phone to do it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's my report and anything else. 1466
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This meeting is adjourned. Thank you. Everybody. 1467
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: E.
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City Council Meeting - July 7, 2026
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I'M CALLING THIS MEETING
TO
ORDER ON JULY 7th AT 6:00.
THANK YOU.
SO I WILL TAKE ROLL CALL.
COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER.
HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN.
PRESENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTEN
IS
ATTENDING
REMOTELY.
PRESENT.
AND VICE MAYOR MAURER.
HERE.
AND WE DO HAVE A REMOTE
PARTICIPATION BY COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON, AND THE COUNCIL WILL
WILL
NEED TO A VOTE FOR
PARTICIPATION.
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON, DO YOU
WANT TO MAKE A YOUR STATEMENT?
SORRY, I'M HAVING A
FEW
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TECHNICAL GLITCHES HERE.
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HOLD ON A MINUTE.
YES, I'M LOOKING FOR
MY
STATEMENT.
I AM SO SORRY.
I AM -- I DON'T --
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO
MAKE AA
STATEMENT FOR
YOU?
YEAH.
I KNOW THAT I HAD IT HERE,
AND
I'M LOOKING AND I CAN'T FIND
IT
IN THE LINE-UP.
SO, YEAH, MARY, WOULD YOU
MIND
READING
IT?
SURE.
SO BECAUSE THIS IS A JUST CAUSE,
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON IS
LOGGING
IN REMOTELY DUE TO AN ILLNESS,
SO IT IS JUSTIFIED UNDER AB2449.
SHE IS DOING IT ROW
MOTLEY.
AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SHE
HAS NO ONE THAT IS UNDER THE AGE
OF 18, AND SHE CAN HEAR US
BY
AUDIO AND VISUAL, AND WE CAN
SEE
HER BY AUDIO AND VISUAL
AS WELL.
THAT IS CORRECT.
NO ONE UNDER THE AGE OF 18, AND
AUDIO AND
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SO THE COUNCIL WILL NEED TO
MAKE A MOTION TO DO REMOTE
PARTICIPATION.
A SECOND AND
VOTE.
SO
MOVED.
SECOND.
THANK YOU.
SO SO MOVED BY VICE MAYOR
MAURER.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER
ZOLLMAN TO APPROVE THE
JUST
CAUSE REMOTE PARTICIPATION.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER.
COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON.
AYE.
COUNCIL
MEMBER ZOLLMAN.VICE
MAYOR MAURER.
YES.IT PASSES IN SUPPORT,
AND VICE
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON IS
ABSENT TONIGHT.
PLEASE JOIN ME ININ
SALUTE TO
THE FLAG.
THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL
ACKNOWLEDGES WE LIVE AND WORK
IN
THE UNSEEDED HOMELANDS OF
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SOUTHERN POMO AND COAST MIWOK
PEOPLE.
WE PAY OUR RESPECT TO THE PAST,
PRESENT, AND
FUTURE GENERATIONS
OF THESE PEOPLES INCLUDING THE
FEDERATED INDIANS OF THE
GRATON
RANCHERIA.
AND NOW WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION
THAT WILL BE READ
BY COUNCIL
MEMBER CARTER.
ALL RIGHT, JULY 2026 AS PARKS
MAKE A LIFE BETTER MONTH.
THIS RESOLUTION RECOGNIZES
THE
IMPORTANCE OF EQUITABLE
ACCESS
TO LOCAL PARKS AND RECREATIONAL
TRAIL, OPEN SPACE AND
FACILITIES
FOR THE POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT
OF
ALL CALIFORNIANS AND THEIR
COMMUNITIES.
AND WHEREAS PARKS PROMOTES
PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH AND
WELLNESS AND CONNECTIVITY,
AND
WHEREAS -- I WAS GOING TO ADLIB
SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T THINK I
SHOULD
DO THAT.
WHEREAS PARKS AND
RECREATION
FOSTERS SOCIAL COHESIVENESS IN
COMMUNITIES BY CELEBRATING
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DIVERSITY, PROVIDING SPACES TO
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COME TOGETHER
PEACEFULLY,
MODELING COMPASSION,
PROMOTING
SOCIAL EQUITY, CONNECTING
SOCIAL
NETWORKS, AND ENSURING
ALL
PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO ITS
BENEFITS.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED THAT THE MAYOR
JOE
LEWIS AND I HERE DO
PROCLAIM
JULY 2026 AS PARK MAKE LIFE
BETTER MONTH.
AND IF WE
HAVE ANY
REPRESENTATIVE OF
PARKS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT
CAN
RECEIVE THIS?
VERY
GOOD.
THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING.
THANKS
SO MUCH.
DAVID ROBINSON.
I'M
THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR
SONOMA COUNTY REGIONAL PARKS.
PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU
THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU, MAYOR
AND COUNCIL
MEMBERS FOR RECOGNIZING JULY
AS
PARKS MAKES LIFE BETTER MONTH.
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EARLIER TODAY THE BOARD
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OF
SONOMA COUNTY
SUPERVISORS
ADOPTED A RESOLUTION
RECOGNIZING
PARKS MAKES LIFE BETTER MONTH,
AND IT'S WONDERFUL TO
SEE OUR
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS UNITING AND
CELEBRATING THE VALUE PARKS
BRINGS TO OUR COMMUNITIES.
THIS RECOGNITION IS
ESPECIALLY
MEANINGFUL TO ME BECAUSE I
GREW
UP HERE IN SEBASTOPOL.
SOME OF MY BEST
CHILDHOOD
MEMORIES WERE MADE AT OUR PARKS.
PLAYING BASEBALL BEHIND US
AND
SPENDING COUNTLESS HOURS AT
THE
RANCH FIELD WITH FRIENDS
AND
FAMILY.
THOSE EXPERIENCES SHAPED
WHO I
AM AND ULTIMATELY
LED ME TO A
CAREER IN PARKS, AND THAT'S
WHAT
THIS RESOLUTION
REALLY
CELEBRATES.
PARKS CREATES HEALTHY
COMMUNITIES, BRINGS PEOPLE
TOGETHER, CONNECTS US WITH
NATURE, AND CREATES A
PLACE
WHERE LIFELONG MEMORIES ARE
MADE.
IN MANY WAYS THAT'S WHAT
TODAY
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IS ABOUT.
EARLIER TODAY THE SONOMA COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MADE
THE
MEASURE TO PLACE THE SUCCESSOR
TO MEASURE "M" IMPROVING
OUR
COUNTIES AND CITIES TO
INVEST IN
THE PARKS, TRAILS, AND
OPEN
SPACES THAT ENRICH OUR
COMMUNITIES AND CREATE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUTURE
GENERATIONS.
SO ON BEHALF OF SONOMA
COUNTY
REGIONAL PARKS, THANK YOU
FOR
YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND
YOUR
CONTINUED SUPPORT OF PARKS.
WE TRULY APPRECIATE
IT.
JUST COME ON UP AND SHAKE
OUR
HANDS AND --
AND THANK YOU FOR HOSTING
SOCCER.
YOU GOT IT.
SO ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS
OF
INTERESTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO
OUT
TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU,
VICE MAYOR.
SO THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR
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ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S
AGENDA.
IT IS A 20-MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
IT IS 2 MINUTES PER SPEAKER.
WE DO CHAMBERS FIRST AND THEN
GO
OUT TO ZOOM.
IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE
PUBLIC
THAT WOULD LIKE TO
MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT ON AN ITEM NOT ON THE
AGENDA, COME OUT TO THE
PUBLIC
FIRST AND GO OUT TO
ZOOM.
THANK YOU,
MARY.
IS THIS ON?
I WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT
IN GENERAL IN SUPPORT OF
PUBLIC
LIBRARIES.
JUST AS PUBLIC PARKS ARE
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO EVERY
COMMUNITY, SO ARE PUBLIC
LIBRARIES, AND THAT'S ALL I WANT
TO
SAY.
I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE
THE
MANAGER AT SEBASTOPOL LIBRARY
FOR THREE YEARS, AND I'M
A
RETIRED LIBRARIAN NOW AND
STILL
VERY INTERESTED IN
PUBLIC
LIBRARIES.
I'VE WORKED IN THEM FOR OVER
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50 YEARS BEFORE I RETIRED.
OR
ACTUALLY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE
A STATEMENT WHICH IS FROM A
BOOK
CALLED CALLED KATE PALACES FOR
THE PEOPLE" HOW SOCIAL
INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HELP
FIGHT
THE DECLINE OF CIVIC LIFE.
LIBRARY SERVICE, BEDROCKS
OF
CIVIL SOCIETY.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
INSTITUTIONS
LIKE LIBRARIES GET
THE
RECOGNITION THEY DESERVE.
THEY ARE ARE THE KINDS OF
PALACES WHERE THE --
THE KINDS
OF PLACES WHERE THE PUBLIC,
PRIVATE, AND
PHILANTHROPIC
SECTORS CAN WORK TOGETHER
TO
REACH FOR SOMETHING HIGHER
THAN
THE
BOTTOM LINE.
PUBLIC LIBRARIES ARE COMMONLY
REFERRED TO AS A THIRD PLACE,
NEITHER HOME
NOR WORKSPACE.
THESE PLACES ARE THE INFORMAL
SPACES THAT ARE OFTEN
MAINSTAYS
IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, PLACES
WHERE
BOTH RANDOM AND
INTENTIONAL
IN-PERSON RELATIONSHIPS
ARE
MADE.
AND PUBLIC LIBRARIES ARE FREE
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AND OPEN
TO ALL.
I DON'T WANT TO -- I KNOW
I'M
NOT PREACHING TO THE CHOIR.
I DON'T WANT TO BE, BUT I
WANTED
TO JUST GO ON RECORD AS
SAYING
I'M A SUPPORTER, AND I KNOW
WE
HAVE MANY SUPPORTERS OF
PUBLIC
LIBRARIES IN THIS ROOM RIGHT
NOW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.
I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.
KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES.
CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN, THANK YOU.
RIGHT, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
THE GRAND JURY IN THE
ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE
ARE IMPORTANT WATCHDOG GROUP.
THEY PROVIDE OVERSIGHT TO
MAKE
SURE THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIESAGENCIES
WITHIN THE LAW.
THEY ARE IMPORTANT CHECKS ON
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CIVIC INSTITUTIONS.
THEY ARE CRITICAL REMEDIES
TO
KEEP OUR DEMOCRACY IN BALANCE.
CITIZEN OVERSIGHT HELPS CIVIC
INSTITUTION REMAIN WITHIN
THE
LAW AND CORRECT COURSE
WHEN THEY
VEER INTO ILLEGAL FUNCTION.
THE GRAND JURY FOUND THAT
THE
CITY WAS IN VIOLATION OF PROP
218.
THE GRAND JURY FOUND THAT
THE
ENTERPRISE FUNDS WERE
ENTITLED
TO $5.5 MILLION
IN RESTITUTION
FOR MISSALICATION OF RATEPAYER
MONEY, BUT ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE ALSO FOUND THAT
THE
CITY WAS -- IS IN VIOLATION
OF
PROP 218.
THE CITY HAS NOT TAKEN STEPS TO
CORRECT ITS PROP 218 VIOLATION
IN ITS CURRENT BUDGET, NOR
HAS
IT TAKEN ANY STEPS TO RESTORE
THE 350 --
$354 FOR EXCESSIVE
AND ILLEGAL ATTORNEYS FEES FOR
2024, 2025 AS IDENTIFIED BY THE
EFOC.
ALEX IS PRESENT AT EVERY
COUNCIL
MEETING.
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INCREMENTS.
IF COUNCIL TRULY BELIEVES
THESE
EXPENSES ARE
LEGITIMATE, COUNCIL
MEMBERS SHOULD REQUEST INVOICES
THAT JUSTIFY THESE EXPENSES.
COUNCIL'S RUNNING A
UTILITY
DISTRICT.
DO THEY PAY HUGE BILLS
WITHOUT
SEEING THE INVOICES?
WATER AND SEWER RATE PAYERS
ARE
PAYING FOR 52% OF THIS
MEETING.
FOR COUNCIL TIME RATE PAYERS
ARE
PAYING 63% FOR CITY MANAGER.
LET'S WATCH AND SEE IF
THE
COUNCIL SPENDS 52% OF THEIR
TIME
TONIGHT ON WATER AND SEWER.
LET'S SEE IF THE CITY MANAGER
SPENDS 63% OF HER TIME ON
WATER
AND SEWER.
IF NOT, THEN WE ARE
WITNESSING
PROP 218 VIOLATIONS FOR CHARGES
THAT ARE NOT JUSTIFIED.
THAT'S TWO MINUTES
UNFORTUNATELY.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
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I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS,
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A
PUBLIC
COMMENT.
THANK YOU.
WE'RE HERE WITH A GROUP
OF
NEIGHBORS TO TALK ABOUT THE
SPEEDING PROBLEM ON PRESENT HILL
VALLEY -- PLEASANT HILL NORTH.
FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE
CITY
COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER
AND
STAFF FOR THE WORK YOU DO.
I WAS A MANAGER IN HELENA FOR
A
NUMBER OF YEARS, AND MY
PARTNER
WORKED WITH ME, SO WE KNOW THE
WORK YOU DO AND THE
THINGS
YOU'RE BALANCING.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
WE LOVE LIVING HERE.
IT'S A
WONDERFUL TIME.
THE COMMITMENT TO HOUSING
AND
COMMUNITY SPIRIT AND
COMMUNITY
FEEL IS WONDERFUL EAR, SO
WE
APPRECIATE IT.
WE REALLY DO.
BUT WE DO HAVE A SPEEDING
PROBLEM OVER ON PLEASANT HILL
NORTH.
WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT PEOPLE
TURN
ON AND ACCELERATE.
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AND WE'RE HAVING A
PROBLEM
GETTING OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAYS
AND
CONSIDER THINGS LIKE SPEED
TABLES, SPEED HUMPS, RUMBLE
STRIPS, TRAFFIC CALMING
MEASURES
ON THAT STREET TO HELP SLOW DOWN
TRAFFIC.
IT'S A PLACE WHERE THERE'S
A
SCHOOL ON ONE SIDE AND THEN
A
PARK.
THERE'S ALSO A SENIOR
LIVING
FACILITY.
PEOPLE WALK THEIR
DOGS, SO IT'S
QUITE BUSY AND ACTIVE, AND
FOLKS
USE IT AS A CUT-THROUGH FROM
THE
MARKETS AND THEN COMING
OFF
BODEGA
AVENUE, THEY'LL CUT
THROUGH THE LARGER
TRUCKS, THE
COMMERCIAL TRUCKS.
SO WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE
IT'S
ENFORCED SO THE
COMMERCIAL
TRAFFIC DOESN'T COME DOWN THERE.
SO WE'RE JUST HERE TO ASK
THIS
BE CONSIDERED TO BE PUT ON AN
AGENDA BECAUSE WE DO FEEL LIKE
IT'S A SAFETY MATTER.
WE'VE GOT THE KIDS ON THE
BICYCLES AS WELL IN THAT AREA.
AND SO WE THANK
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TIME, AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL
BE
ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT.
THE QUESTION IS SHOULD I SUBMIT
THIS PETITION HERE?
OR SHOULD WE MAIL IT IN OR
BRING
IT
IN?
YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GIVE
IT
TO
MYSELF.
GREAT.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
NEXT I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.
KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES, I CAN.
CAN YOU SEE THE TIME
SNR.
I
CAN.
GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT,
PLEASE.
SO ONE WOULD THINK THAT
THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF A
CITIZEN
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR
WASTEWATER AND WATER AS
A
RESPONSE TO IDENTIFYING
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THROUGH
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A RATE STUDY THAT $750,000 IN A
SINGLE YEAR WAS MISCALCULATED
TO
THE GENERAL FUND FROM THE
ENTERPRISE FUNDS, FOLLOWED
BY
MONTHS OF INVESTIGATIVE
WORK BY
THAT COMMITTEE TO
PRODUCE
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS BODY
ALONG WITH A GRAND JURY
REPORT
THAT VALIDATES THAT WORK
DONE BY
THAT BODY THAT THERE WOULD
BE
ACTION.
BUT INSTEAD WE HAVE
CONSISTENT
AND REPEATED NONACTION BY
THIS
COUNCIL AND BY THIS CITY.
THEY CONTINUE TO LEAN INTO
SOME
FORM OF AN ARGUMENT THAT THE
ALLOCATIONS THAT HAVE
HAPPENED
IN PRIOR YEARS WERE, QUOTE,
REASONABLE, RIGHT?
THIS REASONABLE MAN THEORY,
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S
QUITE CLEAR
THE ALLOCATION IN RECENT YEARS
WAS UNREASONABLE.
AND ANYBODY LOOK AT THE
SHEER
VOLUME OF PERCENTAGES TO
THE
GENERAL FUND THAT ARE GOING FROM
ENTERPRISE ARE NOT REASONABLE.
SO MY ONLY
EXPECTATION AT THIS
POINT BECAUSE YOU FAILED TO
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AJENDIZE THIS ITEM
TONIGHT, YOU
HAVE A GRAND JURY RESPONSE.
YOU'VE INDICATED TO THE
PRESS
THAT YOUR GRAND JURY RESPONSE IS
NOT IN ANY WAY GOING TO MEET THE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF
THAT GRAND
JURY, THAT I THINK THE
STRATEGY
IS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A
CLASS
ACTION LAWSUIT.
AND THE REASON WHY YOU WANT
THAT
IS BECAUSE YOU CAN USE YOUR
INSURANCE COMPANY TO PAY OFF THETO THE RATE PAYERS,
AND
THEN YOU GET OFF SCOTFREE,
RIGHT?
AND THE ONLY THING WE'LL SEE IS
INCREASED INSURANCE COST IN
FUTURE YEARS.
IS THAT THE STRATEGY?
JUST GO ON AND TELL ME.
IS THAT THE
STRATEGY?
THANK YOU, KYLE, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
NEXT I WILL COME INTO CHAMBERS.
PLEASE.
I'M NAN WATERS, AND I
LIVE
SOUTH OF TOWN ON HIGHWAY 116.
I'VE LIVED IN SEBASTOPOL FOR
52 YEARS, AND DURING THE 52
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I'VE LIVED IN SEBASTOPOL,
THE
LIBRARY HAS BEEN ONE OF
THE
CENTERS OF COMMUNITY TO ME
AND
TO MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT
I
KNOW.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE
NOTICED THAT ISN'T THAN ON THE
AGENDA
IS THE NEED THAT THE
LIBRARY
FILLS FOR INEQUITIES IN
THE
COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF
PROVIDING
COMPUTERS AND PRINTERS
FOR
PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE THIS
KIND
OF INFRASTRUCTURE AT THEIR
HOMES
OR AVAILABLE TO THEM IN
OTHER
WAYS AS WELL AS OTHER
LIBRARY
PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE
AND
I ALSO KNOW THAT PEOPLE WILL
SAY, WELL, IT'S EASY TO
GET TO
OTHER BRANCHES OF THE
LIBRARY
USING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
BUT I COMMUTED BY
PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION FOR 17 YEARS,
AND
IT'S NOT EASY TO GET ANYWHERE BY
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION THROUGH
SEBASTOPOL.
THE ONLY AREAS ACCESSIBLE TO
US
WOULD BE CENTRAL,
FORESTVILLE
AND GUERNEVILLE, AND
THAT
INVOLVES ALMOST A HALF MILE
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IN THE CASE OF CENTRALVILLE
AND
FORESTVILLE.
I ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO HAVE
THE
INFRASTRUCTURE WE NEED
TO
ADDRESS ININEQUITIES
PEOPLE ARE
NOW FACING IN THEIR INABILITY
TO
ACCESS COMPUTERS AND AND PROGRAMS
FROM
THE
LIBRARY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
I WILL GO OUT TO -- I'M
SORRY.
CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION?
BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TWO
AGENDA
ITEMS TONIGHT BUILDING WITH
BUILDING COMMENTS WHICH
INCLUDES
THE LIBRARY.
WE ALSO HAVE THE
MOLD
REMEDIATION ITEM.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT
THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
FOR
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS NOT
ON
THE AGENDA, AND THESE ITEMS ARE
ON THE AGENDA, SO I JUST WANT
TO
CLARIFICATION FROM OUR CITY
MANAGER.
SO -- I'M SORRY, CAN
WE
ADDRESS -- WE'LL GO
AHEAD AND
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ADDRESS IT, THANK YOU.
Agenda Item Number 1
SO I'LL CHIME IN.
SO THE RELOCATION ITSELF OF
THE
LIBRARY IS NOT ON THE
ITEM
TONIGHT
AJENDIZED.
WHAT IS AJENDIZED IS A
DISCUSSION OF AN INFO ITEM
OF
BUILDING THE COMMENTS.
AND THEN ALSO THE CONTRACT
AWARD
FOR THE MOLD -- THE
CONTRACT
THAT WE DID AND THEN ALSO THE
REMEDIATION.
SO THE SPECIFIC DISCUSSION
OF
THE LIBRARY RELOCATION
NEEDS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT IS NOT ON THE
AGENDA, SO I WOULD GO AHEAD
AND
ALLOW THE PUBLIC
COMMENT RIGHT
NOW TO GO AHEAD AND
CONTINUE
WITH THAT, AND THEY CAN
ALSO
SPEAK DURING THOSE TWO OTHER
AGENDA ITEMS AS
WELL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO I WILL GO OUT.
CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?
YES, I
CAN.
THANK YOU.
CAN YOU SEE THE
TIME SNR.
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IF I SCROLL
OVER, I CAN
PROBABLY SEE THE TIMER.
YES, I CAN SEE THE TIMER.
GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT, PLEASE.
I WANT TO COMMEND NAN
WATERS
WHO SPOKE TO THE ISSUE I WANT TO
SPEAK TO.
OUR LIBRARY IS ONE OF THE
MOST
FREQUENTED LIBRARIES
OF ANY IN
THE SYSTEM.
AND WHAT I WANT TO
TALK ABOUT
ARE THE NEED FOR THE ACCESS
COMPUTERS NOT IN A GENERALIZED
AMUSEMENT WAY, BUT COMPUTERS ARE
USED BY PEOPLE THESE
DAYS
EXCLUSIVELY TO LOOK FOR JOBS AND
TO LOOK FOR HOUSING.
AND SO TO HAVE THAT
INACCESSIBLE
TO PEOPLE IS AN ENORMOUS
DEPRIVATION.
THAT IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THE
LIBRARY IS AN
ENORMOUSLY
IMPORTANT COMMUNITY HUB FOR ALL
OF US WHO LIVE HERE.
BUT I REALLY AM CONCERNED AS NAN
IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE UNEQUALLY
REPRESENTED IN THE
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MEETING
Agenda Item Number 1
TONIGHT.
AND SO I WANT TO URGE YOU
TO
PLEASE FIND A WAY TO CREATE
A
TEMPORARY LIBRARY IN OUR
TOWN
WHILE THE MOLD SITUATION
IS
BEING REMEDIATED.
THANK
YOU.
THANK YOU, DENA, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.
HELLO.
I'M ISAAC WITH ECO GREEN.
WE ARE TRADE PROFESSIONALS WITH
PG&E.
YOU GUYS ALREADY PAY INTO
THE
PROGRAM EVERY MONTH UNDER
THE
PUBLIC PURPOSE PROGRAM
PORTION
OF YOUR UTILITY BILL.
THIS CAN TARGET LED LIGHTING,
HVAC, AND OTHER EFFICIENCY
PROJECTS.
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A
COMMITMENT
TODAY, BUT I WANTED TO START
THE
CONVERSATION OR INTRODUCE
OURSELVES SO THAT WE CAN
FIGURE
OUT WHO TO DIRECT THIS
INFORMATION TO, AS IT'S
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FUNDING PORTAL THAT
CAN
ESSENTIALLY HELP YOU GUYS
TACKLE
DEFERRED MAINTENANCE
WITHOUT
UTILIZING ANY FUNDING
THAT YOU
HAVE FOR OTHER MEASURES.
SO I JUST WANT TO LEAVE SOME
BUSINESS CARDS AND GET OUR
NAME
OUT THERE.
THAT'S
IT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND
JUST LEAVE
THEM AT THE END OF THE
TABLE
RIGHT HERE, AND WE'LL MAKE
SURE
THEY GET IT.
NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM.
ROBERTA, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?
THANK YOU.
CAN YOU SEE
THE TIMER?
YES, I CAN.
THANK
YOU.
GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT
FIRST ON THE NUMBER 29 BUS
THAT
I ADVOCATED FOR AND EMAILED
BACK AND FORTH WITH
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I
SANDRA
MAURER FOR A COUPLE -- FEW
MONTHS.
AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE
PART
OF THE BUDGET FOR HER.
THANK HER FOR CONSIDERING IT.
IT'S STILL AN IMPORTANT BUS LINE
THAT GOES FROM SANTA
ROSA
THROUGH SEBASTOPOL AND
THE
BURBANK SENIOR COMMUNITY OUT
TO
THE COAST TO BODEGA,
TO
IMPORTANT RECREATIONAL
POSSIBILITIES FOR SENIORS IN
PARTICULAR, BUT EVERYBODY
WHO
DOES NOT HAVE A VEHICLE.
I AM A HUGE SUPPORTER OF, AS I
SAID, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
AND WE'RE VERY LIMITED,
AS
ANOTHER SPEAKER NOTED AND I
BELIEVE HER NAME WAS IN
THIS
TOWN AND THIS COUNTY.
BUT PARTICULARLY FOR
SEBASTOPOL
29 BUSES USED TO RUN ON
THE
WEEKENDS THROUGH THE SUMMER
A
LONG TIME BEFORE IT WAS
REMOVED
DURING COVID.
AND I HAVE WRITTEN
TO THE
TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY SEVERAL
TIMES.
I ACTUALLY HAVE GOTTEN VERY
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LIMITED RESPONSE.
I'M VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THIS.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A NUMBER
OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY
DISAPPOINTED
THAT WE HAVE NO WAY TO GET TO
THE COAST.
RIDES ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO
GET
FROM OTHER SENIORS.
MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT DRIVING AT
THIS
TIME.
I'M JUST HOPEFUL THAT SOME
TIME
THIS CAN REALLY BE VIEWED ASAS
VERY ESSENTIAL POSSIBILITY.
AND I ALSO WANT TO SUPPORTSUPPORT
SPEAKERS WHO SPOKE ABOUT THE
LIBRARY.
IT IS MY MOST IMPORTANT PLACE
IN
SEBASTOPOL THAT I
GO TO OUTSIDE
OF --
ROBERTA, THAT'S TWO
MINUTES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR
YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY
I HAVE TWO SPEAKERS LEFT TO MEET
THE 20-MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
SO WE WILL COME INTO
CHAMBERS,
AND THEN OLIVER WILL BE THE
NEXT
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COMMENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS -- AND I'VE
HAD
FAMILY IN SEBASTOPOL SINCE 1961.
I'VE BEEN GOING TO
THE
SEBASTOPOL LIBRARY FOR
50 YEARS
SINCE I WAS A LITTLE GIRL.
AND I JUST WANT TO
AFFIRM WHAT
OTHERS HAVE SAID.
THIS IS AN ABSOLUTELY
CRUCIAL
CULTURAL AND EDUCATION AND
COMMUNITY HUB IN SEBASTOPOL IN
OUR SMALL TOWN, AND IT
ALSO
GIVES EQUAL ACCESS ACROSS LAYERS
AND LAYERS OF PROFOUND
COMMUNITY, AND MANY OF US USE IT
FOR WORK AND GRAD SCHOOL.
AND MY SPECIFIC COMMENT FOR
THIS
COUNCIL IS THAT I'M
VERY
CONCERNED THERE'S BEEN NO
PUBLIC
FACING INFORMATION ABOUT
WHAT'S
HAPPENING WITH OUR LIBRARY
FOR
OVER A MONTH.
AND WHEN I WENT
INTO THE CITY
COUNCIL OFFICE, I SPOKE
WITH
YOUR WONDERFUL ADMINISTRATIVE
ASSISTANT.
SHE WAS VERY
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I
KIND, BUT SHE HAD
NO INFORMATION FOR ME.
AND SO I GOT THE
INFORMATION
FROM THE BUILDING GUY, WHO
REMEMBER HIS NAME IS STEVE,
AND
HE CALLED ME AND LEFT ME QUITE
A
DEFENSIVE MESSAGE.
LIKE, THAT IS NOT HELPFUL TO
THE
PROJECT OF WHAT WE ARE DOING AS A COMMUNITY.
AND I HAD A GREAT
CONVERSATION WITH
ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS
CHAMBER BEFORE WE
BEGAN, AND
WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT
THE
COMMUNITY -- THERE ARE
THOUSANDS
OF PATRONS THAT ARE MISSING THIS
LIBRARY, AND WE ARE NOT
LOOKING
FOR DEFINITIVE INFORMATION.
WE KNOW YOU'RE IN A
REALLY
COMPLEX PROCESS AND
YOU'RE
JUGGLING ELEPHANTS.
WHAT WE WANT IS INFORMATION
ABOUT THE PROCESS YOU'RE IN
AND
TO BE ASSURED THAT YOU CARE
AND
THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
THIS
LIBRARY IS ESSENTIAL FOR
THIS
SMALL TOWN.
AND PUBLIC TRANSIT -- I WORK
IN
MENTAL HEALTH AND HOMELESS
SERVICES.
I HAVE FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
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PUBLIC TRANSIT IS
PROFOUNDLY
DIFFICULT IN THIS COUNTY AND
ESPECIALLY FOR THE
MOST
VULNERABLE AMONG US.
SO TO HAVE ACCESS TO A
LIBRARY
WITHIN OUR SMALL TOWN
IS
CRUCIAL.
SO PLEASE START GIVING
THE
PUBLIC INFORMATION ABOUT
WHAT
YOU'RE DOING, AND IF THERE
HAD
BEEN MORE INFORMATION --
THAT'S TWO
MINUTES.
-- THERE WOULD BE A HUNDRED
OF US TALKING ABOUT IN
THIS
LIBRARY IF WE HAD NONE,
THANKS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT, AND I WILL GO
OUT TO
ZOOM FOR OLIVER.
I DO, VICE MAYOR, IF
YOU
WOULDN'T MIND AFTER PUBLIC
COMMENT, IF WE CAN GIVE
AN
UPDATE QUICKLY ON SOME STATUS OF
SOME EFFORTS MADE BY FOR THE
IALL BRAER.
OLIVER, IF YOU CAN UNMUTE
YOURSELF,
PLEASE.
UNMUTED, YEAH.
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CAN YOU SEE THE -- GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY
FOR
ANYBODY INTERESTED IN THE
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, THE
NEXT
MEETING IN MY CALENDER AT
LEAST
IS MONDAY, JULY 20th AT 10:30.
TWO PEOPLE HAVE -- INCLUDING
ME
HAVE SAID, YES, THEY'RE
ATTENDING.
AND EIGHT PEOPLE
APPARENTLY
HAVEN'T ANSWERED YET, BUT THAT
WILL BE AN
IMPORTANT MEETING.
I'M ON THE ENTERPRISE FUND
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE,
AND
PRIMARILY I'VE BEEN FOCUSED
ON
INFRASTRUCTURE RATHER
THAN
FINANCIAL SIDE OF IT.
BUT I THINK THIS MEETING WILL
BE
ADDRESSING SOME OF THE
CONCERNS
AND POSSIBLY SOME OF THE
WILDER
THEORIES
THAT HAVE BEEN FLOATING
AROUND THIS EVENING.
SO THAT'S MY COMMENT.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, OLIVER, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
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THE
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR ITEMS
NOT ON THE AGENDA.
SO WE'LL MOVE ONTO THE
CONSENT
CALENDER.
I'M SORRY, COULD I JUST DO A
REALLY QUICK RECAP ON THE
LIBRARY ITEMS THEMSELVES?
SO AS YOU'LL SEE
LATER ON
TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA WE DO
HAVE
A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
CONTRACT
FOR THE MOLD REMOVAL THAT WE'VE
DONE ALREADY.
WE HAVE A CONTRACT COMING
FORWARD AND NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT
FOR THE REMEDIATION PROCESS.
THAT IS NOT RECONSTRUCTION.
THAT IS REMEDIATION.
CITY STAFF AND I
HAVE BEEN
WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TRYING
TO FIND LOCATIONS.
WE HAVE WORKED WITH
OUR COUNCIL
MEMBER LIAISON AND THE
ALTERNATE
TO ALSO TRY TO FIND OTHER
LOCATIONS.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE
COMMUNITY
CENTER RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF WE
COULDN'T HAVE THE HOLD PICK
UP
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WE HAD THE BUS THAT WILL
BE
COMING HERE TWO DAYS
A WEEK.AND
ERICA, IF THERE IS ANYTHING
I'M SAYING WRONG, PLEASE
CORRECT
ME.
WE HAVE
THAT SCHEDULED.
ONCE WE CAN GET THAT DONE AND
WE
HAVE CONFIRMATION FROM
THE
COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT WORKS.
IF NOT, I WILL ALSO BE
REACHING
OUT TO LOCAL
BUSINESSES THAT
WILL BE REACHING OUT TO
CHURCHES.
I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO
OTHER
VACANT BUILDINGS, OUR
REALITIES
TO SEE IF THERE'S LOCATIONS
IN
TOWN WE CAN USE.
SO THAT'S JUST A QUICK
RECAP,
BUT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE
ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO
FIND
LOCATIONS AND WORKING WITH
THE
LIBRARY TO DO
THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO WE'LL MOVE ONTO THE
CONSENT
CALENDER.
AND WE HAVE APPROVAL
OF SIX
DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS
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MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR
MEETING
OF JUNE
16th.
COUNCIL MINUTES FOR THE SPECIAL
CITY COUNCIL MEETING JUNE 29th.
THE TASK ORDER, NUMBER 6,
WITH
MOE ENGINEERING TO
PROVIDE
ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE
'26, '27
FISCAL YEAR.
THE APPROVAL OF THE
JOB
DESCRIPTION FOR CITY CLERK.
AND TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO
SIGN A LETTER OF SUPPORT IN USE
OF THE CITY LOGO REGARDING THE
CIRA OR CALIFORNIA
INTERGOVERNMENTAL
RISK
AUTHORITY.
AND APPROVAL OF
CONSULTANT
SERVICES WITH FOUR LEAF PLANNING
SERVICES FOR A SPECIFIC SCOPE
OF
WORK.
SO DOES ANYONE WANT
TO REMOVE
ANY OF THESE ITEMS?
OKAY, SO THEN WE'LL GO OUT
TO
PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR
CONSENT CALENDER ITEMS
THAT WERE
JUST READ.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT, AGAIN IT'S A TWO- Agenda Item Number 1
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TIME LIMIT.
I WILL COME TO CHAMBERS FIRST
AND THEN GO OUT.
PLEASE?
HI, A QUICK QUESTION.
SO I'M REQUESTING THAT ITEM 6
BE
REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT
CALENDERS.
SO WILL I HAVE TIME TO
SPEAK
THEN?
IF I WILL, I DON'T NEED TO
SPEAK
NOW.
OKAY, THANK YOU.
NO, NO, THAT'S
ASSUMING IT
WOULD GET PULLED.
IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT
RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE RECEIVED YOUR REQUEST
AND
A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HAS
ASKED
TO REMOVE THAT ITEM.
IT WILL BE UP TO THE CITY
COUNCIL TO DETERMINE THAT.
PLEASE GO AHEAD WITH YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.
STEVEN, CAN WE PUT
PUBLIC
COMMENT BACK TO TWO MINUTES?
THERE WE GO.
THANK
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THANK YOU, COUNCIL
MEMBERS,
FOR THIS TIME.
MY NAME IS KATEY, AND I'M
A
SEBASTOPOL RESIDENT, AND
I'VE
SUBMITTED A LETTER FOR THE
RECORD, SO I'M NOT GOING
TO
REPEAT ALL OF THAT TONIGHT.
I UNDERSTAND
THE NEED FOR
INTERIM PLANNING SERVICES WHILE
THE CITY CONDUCTS THE
RFP
PROCESS.
MY CONCERN IS ENSURING
THAT
CONSULTANT PLANNERS
REMAIN
CONNECT TODAY THE COMMUNITY
AND
RESPONSIVE TO RESIDENTS MOST
AFFECTED BY
DEVELOPMENT
PROPOSALS.
RECENT DISCUSSIONS INCLUDE THE
FORMER LDS PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED
AND THE IMPORTANCE
OF OFLOCAL
KNOWLEDGE, NEIGHBORHOOD
COMPATIBILITY, TRAFFIC
AND
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY INCLUDING
EMERGENCY EVACUATION
CONCERNS,
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, WATER
AND
SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE
CAPACITY,
AND MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT.
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I WOULD ASK THE CITY RELIES ON
CONSULTING PLANNING SERVICES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND I HOPE THE COMMUNITY INPUT
WILL REMAIN AN ESSENTIAL PART OF
THE PLANNING PROCESS.
I WOULD APPRECIATE UNDERSTANDING
ON HOW WILL CONSULTANT
PARTNERS
REMAIN RESPONSIVE
TO
NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS AND LOCALLOCAL
CONDITIONS, ON HOW RESIDENTS
WILL BE INFORMED OF AND INVOLVED
IN THE SELECTION OF LONGTERM
PLANNING SERVICES AND
PROVIDERS,
AND WHAT MEASURES WILL BE TAKEN
TO PRESERVE LOCAL KNOWLEDGE AND
COMMUNITY TRUST DURING THIS
TRANSITION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM FOR THE
CONSENT CALENDER.
KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES, I CAN.
THANK YOU.
CAN YOU STILL SEE
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YES, I
CAN.
GREAT.
GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.
JUST TO ADDRESS THE
COUNCIL
IN RESPONSE TO THE PRIOR
SPEAKER, THE ANSWER IS NO.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY --
AND THE IDEA WHEN WE GO OUT
TOTO
CONSULTANTS, THAT THEY
ARE
GOING TO DO ANYTHING BEYOND
WHAT
THEY ARE BEING ASKED TO DO
AS
PART OF THE CONSULTING
CONTRACT,
IT'S -- IT'S NOT SOMETHING
THAT
YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO HAPPEN.
SBABS SHOULD BE
CAREFUL
ENDORSING TORT REFORM WHILE ALSO
LOOKING INWARD.
IN RECENT YEARS THE CITY
HAS
FACED LITIGATION AND
LEGAL
CHALLENGES INVOLVING
VEHICLE
DWELLER PARKING ORDINANCE,
THE
CALLAHAN DIABETIC TASER
INCIDENT, THE BROWN ACT CURE
AND
CORRECT ISSUE.
THESE
EXAMPLES RAISE A LOCAL
RISK
MANAGEMENT QUESTION.
ARE WE TRYING TO
REDUCE
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PREVENTING HARM IN THE
FIRST
PLACE?
BEFORE AUTHORIZING CITY LOGO FOR
LOBBYING FOR THIS COALITION, I
REALLY WANT TO ASK COUNCIL
TO
REQUIRE A PUBLIC REVIEWAL --
AGAIN, LET ME REPEAT THAT.
A PUBLIC REVIEW OF RECENT
CLAIMS, SETTLEMENTS,
IMPACTS,
POLICY CHANGES, AND TRAINING
REFORM.
IF YOU THINK THAT YOUR
TRACK
RECORD IS GOOD IN COMPARISON TO
THE REST OF THE MEMBERS OF YOUR
INSURANCE GROUP, THEN GO
AHEAD,
DO THE PUBLIC -- DO A PUBLIC
TRANSPARENT LOOK AT IT BECAUSE
I
SUSPECT THAT BASED
ON THE
INSURANCE CLAIMS, WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT A PHISHING SCHEME
THAT
ENDED UP LOSING OVER A
MILLION
DOLLARS IN PROPERTY TASK.
WHO PAID IT?
OR INSURANCE COMPANY PAID IT.
A
NUMBER OF THESE THINGS HAVE
HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS.
LET'S LAY OUT THE DIRTY
LAUNDRY
AND SEE HOW WELL WE'RE
ACTUALLYACTUALLY
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THANK YOU, KYLE.
THAT'S TWO MINUTES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.
NEXT I'LL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.
IF THERE'S ANYONE IN PUBLIC
COMMENT THAT WOULD LIKE
TO MAKE
A COMMENT ON THE CONSENT
CALENDER, PLEASE COME UP TO
THE
PODIUM.
SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT
TO
ZOOM.
IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM
THAT
WOULD MAKE A
PUBLIC COMMENT ON
THE CONSENT CALENDER
ITEM,
PLEASE RAISE
YOUR HAND
VIRTUALLY.
SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT
IS
CLOSED ON CONSENT CALENDER
ITEMS.
OKAY, BRINGING IT BACK TO THE
DIAS, DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE
A
CHANGE OR
A MOTION?
I'LL MAKE
A MOTION.
I'LL SECOND.
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THANK YOU.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED
BY COUNCIL
MEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE CONSENT
CALENDER ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER.
YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON.
AYE.
COUNCIL
MEMBER ZOLLMAN.
YES.
VICE MAYOR
MAURER.
YES.
MAYOR McLEWIS IS ABSENT,
SO
IT PASSES 4-1 AND MAYOR
McLEWIS
IS
ABSENT.
I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE THE
BRIEF COMMENT THAT OUR
PLANNING
CONSULTANT IS ACTUALLY LOCAL
AND
WAS A FORMER PLANNING DIRECTOR.
THANK YOU, AND I'LL ADD TO
THAT.
THEY'VE BEEN
WORKING WITH US FOR
ACTUALLY MUCH -- FOR THE PAST
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YEAR, BUT THEY WERE ACTUALLY
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NOT
CONSULTANT BUT ACTUALLY
HIRES
HERE FOR A LONG
TIME.
AND I WILL ALSO ADD TO
THAT
THAT WE HAVE JUST RECEIVED THE
RFPs FOR
THE CONSULTANT
SERVICES.
THOSE CAME IN YESTERDAY.
WE RECEIVED THREE.
ONE OF THEM DID NOT QUALIFY,
SO
WE WILL BE REVIEWING THE TWO.
WE WILL BE INTERVIEWING
THEM AND
THEN BRINGING THOSE BACK TO
THE
CITY COUNCIL HERE FOR
DISCUSSION
AND
CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU.
SO WE HAVE THE FIRST ITEM IS THE
THE THIRD QUARTERLY UPDATE FROM
BUILDING THE COMMENTS COMMITTEE.
I'LL TAKE THAT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
TONIGHT'S ITEM IS THE
THIRD
QUARTERLY UPDATE FOR
BUILDING
THE
COMMENTS COMMITTEE.
THE COMMITTEE CONTINUES
TO
EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY
OF
CREATING A SHARED
COMMUNITY
FACILITY THAT CAN SHARE A
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VARIETY OF SIEVING,
EDUCATIONAL,
AND COMMUNITY NEEDS
THROUGHOUT
SEBASTOPOL AND WEST COUNTY.
THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT
SUBCOMMITTEE HAS SPENT THE LAST
SEVERAL MONTHS CONDUCTING
STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS
WITH
LOCAL NONPROFITS,
COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS, SERVICE
PROVIDERS, AND CIVIC
ORGANIZATIONS.
ORGANIZATIONS HAVE REPEATEDLY
IDENTIFIED A NEED FOR CLASSROOM
STORAGE, COMMUNITY KITCHENS,
AND
ACCESSIBILITY
IMPROVEMENTS AND
OPPORTUNITIES TO
SHARE
RESOURCES.
THE INTERVIEWS ALSO REVEALED
A
STRONG INTEREST IN A COMMON
CONCEPT THAT
WOULD ALLOW
ORGANIZATIONS TO
COLLABORATE,
SHARE COST, INCREASE VISIBILITY
OF PROVIDED SERVICES AND BE MORE
MORE
FFICIENT.
THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S FOCUS
WILL
NOW SHIFT FROM
INTERVIEWS TO
COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND
PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT AS THE PROJECT MOVES
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FORWARD.
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ADDITIONALLY, THE
FUNDING
ASSESSMENT SUBCOMMITTEE
HAS
FOCUSED ON EVALUATING
POTENTIAL
LOCATION, FACILITY NEEDS, AND
LONG-TERM FINANCIAL
CONSIDERATIONS.
AFTER REVIEWING MULTIPLE
ALTERNATIVES, THE COMMITTEE
HAS
NARROWED ITS EVALUATIONS TO
TWO
PRIMARY CONCEPTS.
THE FIRST IS THE O'REILLY
PROPERTY ON HIGHWAY NORTH,
AND
THE SECOND IS THE
REDEVELOPMENT
OF CITY OWNED PROPERTIES
WITHIN
THE CIVIC CENTER.
THIS SUBCOMMITTEE HAS
BEGUN
DEVELOPING A HIGH
LEVEL
FINANCIAL FRAMEWORK FOR
THE
PROJECT.
THIS IS THE FOCUS WHICH IS
BOTH
ON CONSTRUCTION COST
AND
ANALYSIS OF LONG-TERM COST
COST
ASSOCIATED
WITH
MAINTAINING AND UPGRADING
EXISTING AND
POTENTIAL
FACILITIES.
AT THIS STAGE DETAILED COST
ESTIMATES HAVE NOT BEEN
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HOWEVER, THE COMMITTEE
REFINING
ASSUMPTIONS AND LOOKING
FOR
POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES.
AT THIS TIME THE COMMITTEE
IS
SEEKING COUNCIL FEEDBACK ON
THE
TWO PRIMARY LOCATION CONCEPTS
CURRENTLY UNDER EVALUATION
AND
THE NEXT STEPS FOR COMMUNITY
OUTREACH.
THIS
CONCLUDES MY BRIEF REPORT, AND
STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR
QUESTIONS, AND I'LL TURN IT
OVER
TO THE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS
THAT
SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE TO
SHARE
ADDITIONAL
THOUGHTS.
THANK YOU.
YES, I
WANT TO FIRST SAY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL OF
THE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT
HAVE
DEDICATED A LOT
OF THEIR TIME
AND EFFORT TO BE ON THIS
BUILDING THE COMMENTS COMMITTEE.
A LOT OF EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT
FORTH.
AND KIND OF MIMICKING MY
PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE WE ARE,
AND
IT HAS BEEN REFLECTED IN
THE
PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT
WERE
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RECEIVED FOR BOTH OF THESE
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AGENDA ITEMS.
WE HAVE LONG-STANDING --
HAVE
HAD A LONG-STANDING SPACE ISSUE
FOR A LOT OF OUR VITAL SERVICES
HERE IN
THE CITY.
THE SENIOR CENTER, WE HAVE HEARD
THEY DON'T HAVE SPACE, AND THEY
ARE DESPERATELY NEEDING IT.
THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN A FLOOD
ZONE.
OUR HEALTH ACTION IS WITHOUT A
BUILDING.
I THINK THAT THE MOLD CRISIS,
AGAIN, AS HAS BEEN STATED IN THE
PUBLIC COMMENTS, HAS NOW PUT AN
EXTRA URGENT LIGHT ON WHAT ARE
WE DOING.
WHAT ARE WE DOING AS A COMMUNITY
TO TRY TO ANSWER ALL OF THESE
NEEDS FOR THESE SPACES?
I THINK THAT WISELY THE
MEMBERS
OF THE BUILDING THE
COMMENTS
COMMITTEE HAS PUT FORTH TWO
ALTERNATIVES, AND I'M
REALLY
HOPING THAT MY FELLOW
COLLEAGUES
WILL WEIGH IN
AND GRANT THE
REQUEST FOR THERE TO BE ONWARD
MOVEMENT TOWARDS CONTINUING TO
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EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS.
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WE HAVE HEARD LONG AND WE HAVE
RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENT AROUND
THE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO
KEEP
THE BUILDING HERE WHERE
IT
CURRENTLY IS.
THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER
IS WE
DON'T KNOW.
AND WHAT THE ITEM ON THE
AGENDA
IS LATER, THERE'S GOING TO
BE
REQUEST FOR ALMOST A
QUARTER
MILLION DOLLARS TO FIX
A
BUILDING THAT EVEN THE
LIBRARY
HAS IDENTIFIED THE FACT IT'S NOT
BIG ENOUGH.
SO WHY?
WHY DO THAT?
QUITE HONESTLY I HAVE
CONCERNS
ABOUT OUR
CITY HALL.
OUR CITY HALL WAS BUILT WITH
THE
SAME ARCHITECTURE.
SO IF THE LIBRARY'S GOING TO
BE
A TEARDOWN OR COULD BE A
TEARDOWN AND CITY HALL
IS GOING
TO BE A TEARDOWN?
WHAT IS GOING TO BE OUR ANSWER?
SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I
THINK
THAT THE
O'REILLY HAS BEEN
BROUGHT UP, AND I'M JUST
ASKING
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THE COMMUNITY TO LISTEN TO THE
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COMMENTS FROM THEIR
FELLOW
COLLEAGUES AND CONTINUE TO SHARE
YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS AS WE MOVE
FORWARD.
THE NEXT MEETING IS A WEEK
FROM
THIS MONDAY WHERE WE'RE
ACTUALLY
GOING TO BE HEARING FROM
THE
FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE AND
COUNCIL
MEMBER CARTER DOESN'T CHAIR, BUT
HE
SITS ON.
SO I'M GOING TO
STOP TALKING
THERE AND TURN IT OVER TO
COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER.
I JUST WANT TO RESTATE
THE
OBVIOUS -- THAT WHEN I
FIRST
STARTED -- THEY'VE BEEN THINKING
ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME,
BUT
WHEN I CAME ONTO IT, IT WAS
WITH
THE IDEA WE WOULD BE
PROACTIVE
IN LOOKING FOR A SPACE
AND
THINKING ABOUT
IT IN A SYSTEMS
WAY AND IN A WAY THAT WOULD BE
THE MOST FINANCIALLY PRUDENT
AND
ACTIONABLE.
THIS RECENT, YOU KNOW,
MOLD
INCIDENT KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS
THE
URGENCY TO GO FORWARD WITH
SOME
OF THIS PLANNING.
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SO IT'S BECOMING A LITTLE LESS
PROACTIVE AND A LITTLE BIT MORE
REACTIVE.
HOWEVER, WE'VE DONE SO MUCH
WORK, I THINK WE'RE IN A
GOOD
PLACE.
ADDITIONALLY, I WANT TO
TELL
EVERYBODY THAT WE'VE KNOCKED OUT
QUITE A FEW PLACES THAT WE
GET
EMAILS ABOUT.
WE'VE LOOKED AT -- BECAUSE
THE
RITE AID IS IN THE
SITUATION
THAT IT IS, YOU KNOW,
LEGALLY
BOUND AND IT'S NOT OURS.
AND IT COULD BE -- YOU
KNOW,
IT'S NOT VIABLE FOR THE CITY
TO
LOOK AT.
THE SAME IS TRUE WITH THE OLD
CVS PLACE BECAUSE IT'S
INVEST-OWNED, THEY ARE
SEEKING
THINGS THAT AREN'T FINANCIALLY
REASONABLE FOR THE CITY TO
PURSUE, WE'VE KIND OF KNOCKED
THAT OUT.
BUT IN THE SWAT ANALYSIS OR ININ
EARLY DAYS WE CAN SEE THE
PROPERTIES WE WENT THROUGH
AND
WE NORMALIZED FOR
OPERATIONAL
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EFFICIENCY AND WHAT WE CAN DO.
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AND THE NEXT TWO THINGS
THAT
WE'LL SEE -- IT'S
ACTUALLY
THREE.
IT'S DO NOTHING, BAND-AID
WHAT
WE HAVE -- BLESS YOU -- AND
CONTINUE TO PAY, WHICH HAS
A
SIGNIFICANT COST.
THE COMMUNITY CENTER WILL HAVE A
COST.
REPAIRING THE LIBRARY
ITSELF
WILL HAVE TREMENDOUS COSTS,
MUCH
MORE COSTS THAN WE
ACTUALLY
ANTICIPATE NOW.
THE CITY HALL HAS
COSTS, AND THE
SENIOR CENTER IS ACTIVELY
LOOKING FOR A NEW PLACE.
THEY'RE ALL LOOKING FOR
RENTAL
FACILITIES OUTSIDE OF THEIR
OWN
BECAUSE
THEY'RE GROWING.
THE LIBRARY IS -- I WOULD
SAY
THE CURRENTLY BUILDING'S AT 98%
UTILIZATION CAPACITY, SO IT
COULD DEFINITELY GROW.
AND WE'RE NOT EVEN ACCOMMODATING
SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR OUTER
AREAS LIKE OCCIDENTAL THAT WE
DO
SERVICE.
THOSE ARE CONSIDERATIONS IN OUR
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ANALYSIS, WHICH I THINK WILL
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COME FORWARD A LITTLE BIT LATER.
BUT I DO WANT EVERYBODY TO
KNOW
WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS IN A
VERY
REALISTIC, PRAGMATIC, AND
FUNCTIONAL WAY SO
THAT, YOU
KNOW, THESE ARE REAL SOLUTIONS
AND NOT JUST KIND OF WE HOPE
THAT THIS CAN HAPPEN.
THESE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS THAT
WE CAN, YOU KNOW, JUST -- WE
HAVE TO PUT THE PIECES
TOGETHER
AND WE CAN MAKE
HAPPEN.
THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS?
I MEAN, QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON,
DO YOU
HAVE A QUESTION?
NO, OKAY.
I HAVE A QUESTION.
MY QUESTION IS REGARDING THE
FACT THAT THE SONOMA
COUNTY
LIBRARY RECEIVES A TAX FOR THE
LIBRARIES.
AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY --
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE FUNDING.
SO I'M WONDERING HOW DO WE MOVE
FORWARD WITH GETTING A BIGGER,
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I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN ASKED
AND
THEY'RE NOT OFFERING,
MY
UNDERSTANDING.
SO THE CITY HAS A
STRUCTURAL
DEFICIT MOVING FORWARD.
WE HAVE SERIOUS
INFRASTRUCTURE
NEEDS LIKE BUILDING REPAIR,
ROADS, WATER, AND SEWER.
SO HOW DO WE MOVE -- HOW DO WE
JUSTIFY MOVING FORWARD WITH
A
MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR
BUILDING
WHEN WE HAVE ALL THESE
OTHER
NEEDS HERE, ESPECIALLY
CONSIDERING THAT THE
COUNTY
RECEIVES A TAX?
SO CAN YOU PLEASE HELP
ME
UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE I
JUST -- TO JUST TALK ABOUT
THE
BUILDINGS WITHOUT TALKING
ABOUT
THE FINANCING DOESN'T WORK FOR
ME.
THAT'S JUST TOO -- YOU KNOW, TOO
SEPARATE.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND THAT IS PART OF IT, TOO.
THERE'S BEEN
A LOT OF
DISCUSSIONS WITHIN THE COMMITTEE
TO SET ASIDE OR TO ASK COUNCIL
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FOR ALEX'S TIME TO EVALUATE WHAT
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ARE OUR OPTION.
WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS
WITH
LIBRARY ADMINISTRATION,
WHICH IT
IS CORRECT.
THEY DO AND WE ALL HAVE PAID IN
TAXES, AND THEY DO HAVE -- IN
MY
PERCEPTION, THEY DO HAVE A
HEALTHY RESERVE.
WHAT CAN ALEX DO?
ABOUT THE MEASURE -- THE
OLD
MEASURE "Y" SLASH NEW MEASURE
"W," WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THAT?
SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS.
ALSO THERE WERE QUESTIONS
DURING
THE COMMITTEE ABOUT A
PUBLIC,
PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP,
AND THERE
WAS A REQUEST TO NOT HAVE ALEX
START LOOKING INTO THAT
UNTIL
AFTER NEXT MONDAY'S BUILDING THE
COMMENTS MEETING, BUT
THOSE ARE
THE QUESTIONS THAT I'M HOPING
THAT THE COUNCIL WILL
APPROVE
THE EXPLORATION OF THE
TWO
OPTIONS THAT WE PUT
FORWARD,
WHICH WOULD INCLUDE HAVING
ALEX
LOOK INTO THIS.
BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, I MEAN
AS
I'VE SAID PUBLICLY, WE HAVE
BEEN
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COUNTY
FOR YEARS NOW.
100% WE HAVE BEEN WITH OUR POOL,
WITH OUR LIBRARIES, WITH OUR
ROADS.
SOMEONE ELSE NEEDS TO
STEP UP
BECAUSE WE AS A CITY WITH
A
LIMITED AMOUNT OF OPERATION
CAN'T FIX ALL THIS.
THAT WHAT WOULD WHAT I
HOPE
COUNCIL WILL AFFIRM
HAVING ALEX
WORK WITH US TO CONTINUE
TO
EXPLORE THESE TWO OPTIONS,
AND
TO YOUR
POINT, VICE MAYOR, THE
FUNDING BEHIND THE TWO OPTIONS.
SO THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE.
SO SITTING ON THE FINANCE
SIDE OF IT, I MEAN THIS IS
WHAT
WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THREE OR
FOUR MONTHS, AND WE HAVE MODELS
BUILT, AND WE HAVE SOURCES, YOU
KNOW, I THINK ACCUMULATING IT
TO
A STACK OF FINANCING THAT
WILL
BE VERY LOW-IMPACT ON OUR
GENERAL FUND.
AND IT'S POSSIBLE, SO I ASK
FOR
SOME GRACE UNTIL WE GET THIS
THROUGH FOR THE FULL
SUBCOMMITTEE, CREATING
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THE
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COMMENTS WILL LOOK AT THE MODELS
WE BUILT, BUT WE HAVE TO
GET
THEM
THROUGH THAT COMMITTEE
BEFORE WE CAN TAKE THEM PUBLIC.
BUT I HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF
CONFIDENCE WE'RE GOING TO
BE
ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT
ESPECIALLY
IF -- OKAY, DOING NOTHING
IS
GOING TO COST MONEY.
IT'S GOING TO COST A LOT OF
MONEY.
DOING SOMETHING MIGHT COST LESS
MONEY, AND IT'S JUST GOING TO
TAKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A MONTH OR
SO BEFORE I CAN SHOW IT WITH
THE
NUMBERS.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE CVS
BUILDING?
YEAH.
AS I SAID, THEY'RE NOT OKAY.
WE CAN'T GO THROUGH
IT.
OKAY.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THIS
BUILDING HERE?
RAISING IT UP OR REMODELING
THE
COMMUNITY CENTER BUILDING?
BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE ALL
THE
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OUTDOOR SPACE STILL.
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BESIDES THE FACT IT'S IN A
FLOOD ZONE AND IMPOSSIBLE
TO
RAISE, YEAH IT'LL COST --
WELL, YOU'D HAVE TO RAISE IT.
WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY --
THAT'S SO EXPENSIVE, I COULDN'T
EVEN IMAGINE DOING THAT.
WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE IF
YOU'RE
GOING TO TEARDOWN
BUILDINGS
DOWNTOWN IT COULDN'T BE ANYMORE
OR LESS EXPENSIVE THAN TEARING
THIS BUILDING DOWN OR RAISING IT
UP.
THIS BUILDING IS BASICALLY
IN
THE SAME LOCATION, IT'S JUST
A
LITTLE HIGHER SO IT
DOESN'T
FLOOD.
SO IF THAT BUILDING OR
THAT
LOCATION WAS RAISED UP, I
JUST
DON'T -- SO WHY AREN'T
YOU
LOOKING INTO
THAT?
WE HAVE.
AND, AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE WHEN I
DID, LIKE, A ROUGH ANALYSIS, YOU
KNOW,
DIGGING INTO THAT, TEARING
IT DOWN, AND REMOVING THAT AS
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FACILITY FOR THE COMMUNITY IS
LESS VALUABLE THAN -- YOU
KNOW,
WE KIND OF NARROWED IT DOWN TO
REDOING THE LIBRARY AREA.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE AREAS WE
DID
LOOK OUT AND KNOCK OUT BECAUSE
IT'S FINANCIALLY UNFEASIBLE.
IT'S IN A FLOODPLAIN.
I THINK IT WOULD BE LIKE
15 YEARS BEFORE WE COULD EVEN DO
IT.
ARE THERE ANY
OTHER
QUESTIONS?
IF NOT, WE CAN GO OUT TO PUBLIC
COMMENT,
PLEASE.
THANK YOU, VICE
MAYOR.
I'M SORRY.
YES, COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON?
JUST
ONE SECOND.
I MEAN, MY QUESTION OR
FEEDBACK, I GUESS, FOR
THE
COMMITTEE IS WHEN YOU LOOK INTO
HOW ROSELYN GOT THEIRTHEIR NEW
LIBRARY, IT OBVIOUSLY WAS
A
VARIETY OF GRANTS.
I THINK EVEN GREAT RANCHERIA
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GAVE THEM SOME MONEY.
ARE WE LOOKING AT A
MULTI --
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FINANCE, IS
THE COMMITTEE LOOKING AT A
MULTIGROUP OF
FUNDING SOURCES?
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME 100
THAT
GIVE SOME MONEY TO
NONPROFITS,
AND MAYBE WE CONSIDER
THE
LIBRARY FOUNDATION.
I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT
THAT
BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
ROSELYN LIBRARY AND HOW THEY GOT
THEIR MONEY, IT WAS
A
MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH, I GUESS,
I WOULD
SAY.
SO WE ARE ABSOLUTELY DOING
THAT.
AND THREE LEVELS DEEP ON THAT,
SO WE'RE EXPLORING ALL
THE
DIFFERENT GRANTS, ALL THE
DIFFERENT FINANCING STYLES, AND
WE'RE CREATING A STACK THAT IN
PLOTTING IT OUT OVER TIME,
SO
THAT IT FITS WHAT WE'RE CAPABLE
OF
DOING.
AND I CAN SAY THAT --
THANK YOU
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON, FOR
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THE QUESTION.
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THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE
STARTED TO DIVE IN WHICH WAS
HOW
ROSELYN
WAS SUCCESSFUL.
AND RAY HOLLY, THE FORMER
ADMINISTRATION'S PR
PERSON
ACTUALLY GAVE A
WHOLE
PRESENTATION ON ALL THAT.
SO THANK YOU.
WE ARE DEFINITELY TRYING TO
STEAL AND COPY THAT MODEL
BECAUSE IT OBVIOUSLY WORKED.
WE ALSO HAD NAOMI HUBERT
ON
BUILDING THE COMMENTS, AND
SHE
SITS ON THE LIBRARY FOUNDATION
BOARD, SO WE MADE STRATEGIC
CHOICES ABOUT -- LIMITED
ABOUT
THE STAFF AND TIME AND
ENERGY
AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE PUT AS MANY OF THE
USEFUL PEOPLE -- MOST
USEFUL PEOPLE
ON
THE COMMENTS.
SO
THANKS.
OKAY, WE CAN GO OUT FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.
SO THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR
THE INFORMATIONAL ITEM
ON
BUILDING THE COMMONS.
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IT IS A TWO-MINUTE PUBLIC
TIME
LIMIT.
AGAIN, WE DO CHAMBER FIRST
AND
GO OUT TO ZOOM.
SO IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE
CHAMBERS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER
PUBLIC COMMENT.
CAN'T
HEAR.
CAN YOU PUSH THE BUTTON?
IS IT ON?
I'M SORRY.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT
THE
FIRST BUILDING OF THE SEBASTOPOL
PUBLIC LIBRARY -- CARNEGIE
SAID
TO LIBRARIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY
I WILL GIVE YOU A GRANT IF
YOU
COME
UP WITH MATCHING FUNDS.
AND SO IN 1916 A LOCAL
BANKER
WAS ABLE TO -- SAID, YES,
LET'S
DO THAT AND DID GET LOCAL FUNDS.
SO THE BUILDING WAS BUILT WITH A
CARNEGIE GRANT AND LOCAL FUNDS.
THAT WAS A BUILDING THAT
SERVED
THIS COMMUNITY UP UNTIL
1975
WHEN THE -- WHEN MONEY
WAS
TAPPED FROM THE FEDERAL LIBRARY
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SERVICES ACT.
BUT THE JOINT SERVICES THAT
THE
LIBRARY COMMISSION
BASICALLY
RUNS OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM AND
HAS
A JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT
WITH
ALL THE CITIES WITHIN THE
COUNTY.
AND
THE CITIES ARE THE ENTITIES
THAT PROVIDE
THE BUILDINGS.
THE LIBRARY COMMISSION, THE
LIBRARY DEPARTMENT PROVIDES THE
SERVICES, THE BOOKS, THE
STAFF,
THE ENTIRE THING.
SO MEASURE "Y,"
SUBSEQUENT
MEASURE "W" ARE PROVIDING
FUNDS
TO THE LIBRARY.
IT WOULD BE GREAT, AND I'M GLAD
YOU'RE EXPLORING ALL THESE
POSSIBILITIES, BUT I THINK
WE
NEED TO KNOW HISTORICALLY
THE
LIBRARY HAS BEEN FUNDED BY THE
CITY SOMEHOW.
AND I'M APPRECIATING THAT YOU'RE
GOING THROUGH ALL THIS.
WE'RE NOT JUST THE LIBRARY
BUT
THE SENIOR CENTER AND NEW
CITY
HALL AND HEALTH SERVICES.
THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR
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PUBLIC
COMMENT.
NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM
AND
COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS.
OLIVER, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
I'M UNMUTE
ASKED I CAN SEE
THE TIMER.
GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL
MEMBER ZOLLMAN, BECAUSE HE
SAID
THE IMPORTANT THING HERE, WHICH
IS NUMBER ONE WE DON'T HAVE
THE
MONEY TO
BE RUNNING THE LIBRARY.
AND WE ARE PROVIDING
ALL OF
THESE SERVICES FOR WEST
COUNTY.
WE'RE A TINY LITTLE CITY WITH A
VERY SHRINKING
REVENUE, AS
EVERYBODY KNOWS.
SOMETHING'S GOT TO GIVE
HERE,
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
THE
SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARY,
WHICH
WE -- I BELIEVE WE LEASE
THE
BUILDING TO THEM FOR $1 A YEAR.
AND THERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE REPAIRS
FOR
THAT BUILDING OR SOMEHOW
MANAGING TO MAGICALLY BUY
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EXPENSIVE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS
FOR A NEW LIBRARY.
NONE OF THIS IS GOING TO FLY.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY IN
A
MILLION YEARS, AND THE
COUNTY
NEEDS TO STEP UP.
I'VE SAID THIS MULTIPLE TIMES IN
PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
AGAINST
THE LIBRARY.
I
THINK IT'S GREAT.
I LIKE THE COMMONS IDEA, BUT THE
SILTY JUST CANNOT CARRY
THIS
KIND OF GRANDIOSE PROJECT
WITH
THE REVENUE THAT WE HAVE
COMING
IN.
IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE.
SO SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE HERE.
AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE
WE'RE GOING TO GO HERE, BUT
I'M
NOT VERY CONFIDENT IN THE
EXPLORATIONS OF TRYING TO FIND
FUNDS.
I THINK THE COUNTY NEEDS TO
BE
PRESSURED SUBSTANTIALLY HERE
TO
STEP UP AND SORT THIS
SITUATION
OUT FOR WHAT IS BASICALLY THEIR
LIBRARY.
THANK
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THANK YOU, OLIVER, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.
GOOD EVENING.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS MARY LOU SCHMIDT.
I'M A MEMBER OF
GRAVENSTEIN
HEALTH ACTION COALITION, WHICH A
SMALL VOLUNTEER NON-PROFIT
WHICH
SUPPORTS VARIOUS PROGRAMS
IN
SEBASTOPOL AND WEST COUNTY
AND
IS BASED ON THE STRUCTURE OF
SELF-HEALING COMMUNITY.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS
THE
COMMUNITY USES LOCAL LEADERS
TO
HELP SOLVE ITS PROBLEMS LOCALLY.
IN THAT REALM, I AM A MEMBER OF
THE COMMUNITY COMMONS
COMMITTEE,
AND I AM WORKING ON THAT BECAUSE
I CAN SEE THAT THE COMMONS
ITSELF CAN BE AN
ABSOLUTE
BENEFIT TO THIS COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE FAILING BUILDINGS, AND
IT REALLY IS UPSETTING
TO THINK
THAT WE HAVE TO PUT A
WHOLE
BUNCH OF MONEY INTO A BUILDING
THAT, ONE, HASN'T BEEN BIG
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ENOUGH FOR THREE YEARS.
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS
PROJECT FOR THREE YEARS WITH
VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND SO THE LIBRARY ITSELF?
IS NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR THE
WORK
THAT THESE PEOPLE DO.
THE STAFF ARE CRAMPED.
YOU KNOW, THESE BUILDINGS ARE IN
A FLOOD ZONE.
WE KNOW THAT THE SENIOR CENTER
IS JUST AT -- JUST AT ITS LIMIT.
SO WITH ALL OF THIS HAPPENING
AND WITH THE -- AND WITH
THE
CITY BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR
ALL
THIS -- ALL THIS
PROPERTY,
THERE'S GOT TO BE A DIFFERENT
WAY.
I THINK THE COMMONS IS
A
DIFFERENT WAY.
I THINK THERE ARE BUILDINGS
THAT
WE CAN LOOK AT,
AND THE
POSSIBILITY OF GETTING MONEY
FOR
THAT, WE HAVE A GREAT -- THANK
YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER,
FOR
LEADING THAT COMMITTEE, WHICH
IS
LOOKING INTO AS MUCH MONEY AS WE
CAN GET.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN
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LEADING THOSE OF US WHO
ARE
TRYING TO GET COMMUNITY INPUT.
I WILL TELL YOU THE
COMMUNITY
INPUT TO ME IS PEOPLE WOULD
NOT
MIND GOING TO THE O'REILLY
CENTER AS LONG AS THERE WAS SOME
KIND OF TRANSPORTATION AVAILABLE
AND THERE WAS PARKING.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COMES
UP ALL
THE TIME.
MARY, THAT'S --
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
NEXT I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.
LINDA, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YEAH, I THINK I'M KIND OF
GOING INTO HORROR RIGHT NOW.
FIRST THE LIBRARY WAS
REALLY
NOT -- THE LIBRARY
PEOPLE
RUNNING IT WERE NOT
TRANSPARENT
ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH
THE
BUILDING BEING CLOSED.
AND I THOUGHT WHAT KIND
OF
DISASTER HAPPENED.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SIT IN THAT
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LIBRARY ALL DAY
LONG.
I REMEMBER REGISTERING VOTINGERS
THERE ONCE AND OBSERVING WHO
USED THE LIBRARY.
THERE'S CHILDREN SOME
AS YOUNG
AS BABIES, BECAUSE I'VE GONE
IN
THE LAY BRER AND SEEN PEOPLE
WITH BABIES AND
LIBRARIANS
TELLING THEM STORIES.
SO THERE'S INFANTS CLEAR
TO
ELDERLY PEOPLE.
AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO STAY
IN
THERE ALL DAY LONG USING
THE
COMPUTERS AND
OTHER FACILITIES.
SO IF THIS WHATEVER -- AND
THEN
THEY FINALLY TOLD US IT WAS
BLACK MOLD.
I FELT THAT THE LACK
OF
TRANSPARENCY WAS NOT GOOD.
ALSO THE LIBRARY'S DOWN,
AND
WHAT I'M HEARING IS
IT'S
EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO FIX THE
BUILDING.
HOPEFULLY THEY'LL HAVE
A --
LIKE, SOMEONE MENTIONED A
BOOKMOBILE OVER AT THE COMMUNITY
CENTER SO THAT WE CAN AT
LEAST
RETURN AND RECEIVE BOOKS.
BUT HOW MUCH LONGER WILL THIS
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CITY, ONE OF THE HEAVIEST USERS
OF LIBRARY, I'VE HEARD, BE
WITHOUT A LIBRARY
SPH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
NEXT I WILL COME INTO CHAMBERS.
GOOD EVENING.
ERICA, LIBRARY DIRECTOR
SONOMA
COUNTY LIBRARY, AND I'M
HERE
JUST TO URGE YOU TO HIRE
A
CONSULTANT OR ALLOW US TO
HIRE
AN ARCHITECT TO EVALUATE THE
O'REILLY SPACE BEFORE
DECIDING
TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY
PURCHASE.
I HAVE BEEN TO THE BUILDING.
THE FIRST FLOOR IS 15,000
SQUARE
FEET, WHICH IS ABOUT
5,000
SQUARE FEET SHORT OF
WHAT WE
WOULD WANT FOR A
SPACE IN
SEBASTOPOL.
I WOULD ALSO DISCOURAGE
A
TWO-STORY LIBRARY BUILDING.
IT CREATES A LOT OF SECURITY
ISSUES, AND IT'S DIFFICULT
TO
MONITOR, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO --
YOU KNOW, I REALLY URGE YOU
TO
LOOK AT HIRING SOMEBODY
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EVALUATE THE SPACE AND GIVE YOU
A ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE
OF
WHAT THE COST WOULD BE TO
RENOVATE IT.
THANK YOU.
I YIELD MY TIME.
THANK YOU, ERICA, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM.
LEE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
CAN YOU HEAR
ME?
THANK YOU.
CAN YOU SEE THE
TIMER?
YES.
GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC
COMMUNITY,
PLEASE.
I'M AMAZED AT THE QUALITY
OF
THE TEAM STEVE HAS ASSEMBLED
TO
WORK ON THIS.
EVERY TIME THAT I READ THE
REPORTS, I'M IMPRESSED.
I WISH WE HAD PEOPLE OF THAT
CALIBER
WITH THIS
MUCH
MOTIVATION WORKING ON
THINGS
LIKE THE STRUCTURAL DEFICIT
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THE CITY BECAUSE IT WOULD FIX A
LOT
MORE PROBLEMS THAN FIXING
THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO FIX.
UNFORTUNATELY ABOUT THIS
THAT
OUR NON-PROFIT PARTNERS
NEED
MORE SPACE.
WEST COUNTY INTERESTS WANT
MORE
SPACE.
AS THE VICE MAYOR SAID, AND I
THINK STEVE ACKNOWLEDGED,
THE
CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE
MONEY TO
SUPPORT ANY OF THESE NONPROFITS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO
PAY THE BILLS AND FIX
THE
STREETS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY EVEN
TO SUPPORT THE
ONGOING
MAINTENANCE OF A BIG
NEW
BUILDING LIKE THIS THAT WERE
BUILT.
RIGHT NOW THE SENIOR CENTER
HAS
A BETTER INCOME STATEMENT THAN
THE CITY.
THE CITY CAN'T ANSWER MOST OF
THESE QUESTIONS.
HAVING SAID THAT, THE
AGENDA
ITEM WAS TO DISCUSS TWO
LOCATIONS -- O'REILLY AND THE
PLAZA, BUT NO ONE'S PRESENTED
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ANY INFORMATION ON WHAT ARE YOU
DOING AT O'REILLY, WHAT'S
THE
FACILITY LIKE, HOW WOULD IT
FIT,
HOW WOULD IT BE USED?
ARE WE GOING
TO PUT A LIBRARY ON
THE PLAZA?
DON'T YOU HAVE TO PRESENT THOSE
THINGS SO THEY CAN BE DISCUSSED
AND DEBATED AND CITY COUNCIL
CAN
PROVIDE YOU -- AND THE PUBLIC
CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH COMMENTS?
I ALSO DON'T KNOW WHO'S TALKING
TO THE OWNER OF THE CVS
FACILITY
RIGHT NOW, BUT MY
UNDERSTANDING
IS THE HE OR SHE THEY WANTED A
DIFFERENT BUILDING AND
WERE
FORCED TO TAKE THIS ONE AS A
SO I'M NOT SURE THEY WILL
WANT
TO GET RID OF IT.
AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT
MEET
ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT YOU
PROBABLY HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY
SERIOUS ABOUT CONTACTING
THESE
PEOPLE AND NEGOTIATING.
THANK YOU.
THANK
YOU, LEE, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
NEXT I'LL COME BACK INTO
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CHAMBERS.
GOOD EVENING.
NAME'S PAUL FRITZ.
FIRST
I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY
SUPPORT FOR THE COMMONS IDEA.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR AN
IN-TOWN LOCATION.
I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT KIND
OF
PUTTING ALL THESE
CIVIC
FUNCTIONS AT THE PERIMETER
OF
OUR COMMUNITY.
JUST GOING TO READ A BRIEF
THING
I FOUND ON THE PROJECT
FOR
PUBLIC SPACES WEBSITE.
PUBLIC BUILDINGS ARE THEIR
BEST
WHEN THEY NOT ONLY FUNCTION
AS
ACTIVE COMMUNITY PLACES IN
THEIR
OWN RIGHT BUT ALSO WHEN
THEY
FORM PART OF A LARGER
CIVIC
DISTRICT.
WHEN THE MANAGERS OF
THESE
INSTITUTIONS PARTNER WITH
NEARBY
BUILDINGS TO
ESTABLISH
THEMSELVES A CIVIC
DISTRICT,
THEY CAN COSPONSOR
EVENTS,
PROGRAM FACILITIES,
AND
OTHERWISE SHARE, TRADE, OR
COMBINE THE USE OF THEIR
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SPACES.
THE LIBRARY AND CITY HALL DID
NOT CREATE A CITY ON THEIR OWN
BUT SET UP FOOD VENDORS ON THE
SIDEWALK OR FARMERS MARKET
IN
THE PARKING LOT, AND
SUDDENLY
YOU BEGIN TO GENERATE
MUCH
GREATER LEVELS OF
ACTIVITY THAN
BEFORE.
LIKE WISE, THE ROLE OF A CIVIC
INSTITUTION EXTENDS TO ABILITY
ITSELF.
RARELY ARE THEIR MISSIONS
REFLECTED OR EXPRESSED IN PUBLIC
SPACES.
WHEN A SIEVING INSTITUTION
ENGAGES A
PUBLIC SPACE WHETHER
IT BE A STREET, LOSSA, OR
SQUARE
AND REACHES OUT TO
OTHER
INSTITUTIONS IN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD
THAT MARKS THE REBIRTH OF
A
CIVIC CENTER.
THE CIVIC CENTERS FUNCTION
AS
ONE OF THE GREAT PLACES
IN THE
CITY YET RARELY DO CIVIC
INSTITUTIONS BENEFIT OR
CONTRIBUTE TO DOWNTOWN
REVITALIZATION.
THIS MIGHT OCCUR
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INSTITUTIONS MIGHT HAVE BEEN
RELOCATED TO THE OUT SKIRTS
OF
TOWN OR BECAUSE
INSTITUTIONS
HAVE TURNED THEIR BACKS ON
A
CITY FOR MANY YEARS WAS
UNSAFE,
AT NIGHT DOMINATED BY TRAFFIC OR
LACKING ACTIVITY.
FOR CITIES CONCERNED ABOUT
THE
LONG RUN BACK TO BURGEONING
CENTRAL DISTRICTS IS ESSENTIAL.
I'LL JUST SAY WITH THE
APPROVAL
RECENTLY OF THE CAL TRANS
GRANT,
OUR DOWNTOWN IS ON THE CUSP OF
A
REAL KIND OF TRANSFORMATION.
AND I HOPE THAT THESE
CIVIC
INSTITUTIONS CAN BE PART OF
THAT.
THANK
YOU.
THANK YOU, PAUL, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
NEXT I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM IF
THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC
COMMENT ON THIS INFORMATION
ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES, THANK YOU.
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IN LISTENING TO ALL THESE PUBLIC
COMMENTS, I JUST HAD ONE
IDEA.THE
PIAZZA HOTEL LOT IS
STILL
VACANT AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE
THE SOCCER FIELD IDEA
HAS
LANDED.
BUT PERHAPS YOU COULD ASK
THE
HOTEL TO FENCE IN THE LOT SO
IT
COULD BE GATED OFF AT NIGHT,
AND
THERE COULD BE A
BOOKMOBILE AND
PICNIC TABLES AND SOME
PLANTINGS
IN THAT AREA SO PEOPLE COULD
HAVE, LIKE, A DE FACTO OPEN AIR
LIBRARY.
AND PERHAPS THE HOTEL WOULD
BE
WILLING TO FUND SOME TYPES
OF
PLANTINGS AND
NICER LOOKING
FENCE AND A GATE THAT COULD BE
CLOSED AT NIGHT JUST TO CREATE
A
MORE LIVELY SPACE THERE.
SO
THAT'S ONE IDEA.
AND THEN I ALSO AGREE WITH THE
OTHER COMMENTERS THAT WE
NEED
THE COUNTY TO PITCH IN MORE.
WE -- SEBASTOPOL HAS THE HIGHEST
PER CAPITA OF SUBSIDIZED AND
LOW
INCOME HOUSING IN
WESTERN SONOMA
COUNTY, WHICH REDUCES
OUR
PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
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SO I WOULD KEEP URGING THE
CITY
TO EXPLORE A HIGHER
PERCENTAGE
OF THE PROPERTY TAX THAT IS PAID
BY PEOPLE LIVING IN SEBASTOPOL.
ONLY ABOUT 20 CENTS ON EVERY
DOLLAR THAT A PERSON PAYS
IN
PROPERTY TAX HERE GOES BACK
TO
THE CITY.
AND IF THAT COULD BE UPUP
25 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR, THAT WOULD
BRING IN A LOT MORE MONEY AND
HELP OFFSET SOME OF THESE COSTS.
AS OTHER COMMENTERS HAVE
SAID,
SEBASTOPOL IS KIND OF LIKE
THE
LIVELY HUB FOR WEST
SONOMA
COUNTY.
WE HAVE THE POOL.
WE HAVE THE LIBRARY.
OUR ROADS ARE USED
A LOT.
SO I THINK LOOKING MORE
STRATEGICALLY WITH THE
COUNTY
WE'RE CREATING A SPECIAL ARTS
OR
SOCIAL DISTRICT ALSO IS ANOTHER
WAY TO CARVE OUT ADDITIONAL
PIECES OF TAX
REVENUE.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
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CHAMBERS.
IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS
THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT.
SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.
CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
THERE.
AM I
UNMUTED?
YOU ARE UNMUTED.
CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES, I
CAN.
GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.
SO MY NAME IS KENT JENKINS.
I AM THE
SENIOR CENTERS
REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COMMONS
COMMITTEE, AND I APPRECIATE
SOME
OF THESE -- A LOT OF THEM ARE
FIRST IMPRESSIONS OF THE
WORK
WE'VE BEEN DOING.
AND I INVITE ANYONE WHO'S
INTERESTED, AND I APPRECIATE THE
INTEREST, TO TAKE A LOOK AT
OUR
VERY PUBLIC RECORD.
A NUMBER OF THESE ISSUES WE
HAVE
EXPLORED.
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WE HAVE PUBLISHED PAPERS ON
OUR
INVESTIGATORY WORK, AND I THINK
THAT WOULD PROVIDE A GREAT DEAL
OF COMFORT TO THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE
WORRIED ABOUT THIS OR THAT.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD
INVITE
THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT IS
WHERE IN OUR CURRENT TIMES
THE
ACTUAL CENTER OF WHERE
PEOPLE
ARE, WHERE THEY LIVE -- WHERE DO
KIDS ACTUALLY LIVE?
WHERE DO SENIORS ACTUALLY LIVE?
COMBINED WITH WHERE -- HOW
DO
PEOPLE GET TO VARIOUS LOCATIONS?
AND IN BOTH CASES MOST PEOPLE
DRIVE.
SO WHILE THERE MIGHT BE
SOME
PEOPLE WHO WOULD LOSE THE
CONVENIENCE OF A DOWNTOWN
LOCATION, SOMETHING LIKE
O'REILLY, THERE ARE A WHOLE HOST
OF NEW PEOPLE WHO WOULD
GAIN
THAT CONVENIENCE.
SO IT'S A TOUGH TRADEOFF, AND
MY
HEART GOES OUT TO PEOPLE WHO
MAY
MISS SOMETHING THAT WAS IN
THEIR
LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT I'M ALSO PLEASED TO EXPAND
THAT OPPORTUNITY TO OTHER PEOPLE
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IN OUR CITY WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE
NEGLECTED PERIPHERIES OF OUR
TOWN.
SO THAT'S MY COMMENT.
THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
THANK YOU, KENT, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
NEXT I WILL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.
IF THERE'S ANYONE IN
CHAMBERS
THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A PUBLIC
COMMENT.
SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.
IF THERE'S ANYONE IN
ZOOM WHO
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT, RAISE YOUR
HAND
VIRTUALLY.
SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT
IS
CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.
OKAY, WE'RE BACK AT THE
DIAS.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR A
MOTION?
OH, I'M
SORRY.
INFORMATIONAL ITEM.
EXACTLY.
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AND AS THE STAFF REPORT
NOTES,
THE COMMITTEE WILL BE
COMING
BACK IN SEPTEMBER TO
MAKE FORMAL
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE
COUNCIL
CAN DEBATE AND ACT ON AT
THAT
POINT.
EVEN FOR INFORMATIONAL
ITEMS
WE CAN STILL PROVIDE
DIRECTION,
CORRECT?
SO I'M HOPING THAT MY COLLEAGUES
WILL DIRECT THE COMMITTEE
TO
CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THOSE TWO
OPTIONS ALONG WITH STAFF'S
USE
OF TIME DURING THOSE MEETINGS.
I'D LIKE YOU TO EXPAND A
LITTLE BIT TO POSSIBLY
INCLUDE
THE CVS BUILDING AND NOT LIMIT
IT.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE YOU TO
THINK
ABOUT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE
CITY,
NOT JUST WHAT IS AVAILABLE RIGHT
NOW.
SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS
THAT
I'M GIVING TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT
FOR A SECOND.
NOT TO BE DEFENSIVE BUT TO CLUE
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YOU IN ON ALL THE MONTHS OF WORK
WE'VE PUT IN.
THE CVS, THE OWNERS WE'VE
REACHED OUT TO THEM AND
INTERTAPED THE IDEA OF ACTUALLY
BUYING THERE.
WE'VE LOOKED AT THE REAL
COSTS
IT WOULD TAKE TO BE IN IT.
AND ALSO WE'VE LOOKED
AT
COMPLETE FRESH NEW BUILDS
THAT
THE CITY OWNS.
LIKE ALL OF IT.
I WENT THROUGH A VERY
LONG
PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING
EVERY
SINGLE AVAILABLE PIECE OF
LAND,
WHAT WE COULD SWAP OVER,
AND
WHAT WAS THE MOST EFFICIENT USE
OF ANYTHING.
AND THEN NOT ONLY THAT, SO IN
THE PROCESS PRIOR IS WHERE
WE
SHOW SOME OF THE SWAT
ANALYSIS
OF SOME OF THE
OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.
THE CVS BUILDING AND THE RITE
AID BUILDING DID NOT MAKE IT
BECAUSE THE INVESTOR OWNED
BUILDINGS WAS $45,000 A MONTH
OR
SOMETHING WE COULDN'T
HANDLE
WHEN EVERYTHING IS BASICALLY
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RENT-FREE, SO WE NEED TO
BUY.
AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO ON JULY
14th IN OUR MEETING IS
ACTUALLY
DISCUSS REAL NUMBERS AND
COME
BACK WITH THOSE.
AND WE'RE DEFINITELY
THINKING
ABOUT THE WHOLE CITY AND HOW WE
CAN SUPPORT ALL THE
THINGS,
WHICH IS THE COMMONS ITSELF.
SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT
THE
COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL OF OUR
NONPROFITS.
WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THAT
AND HOW WE CAN
TAKE CARE OF ALL
OF THEM FOR THE MOST BANG
FOR
OUR BUCK, THE BEST VALUE,
AND
THE MOST REALISTIC OPPORTUNITY
THAT WE
HAVE.
OKAY, THANK YOU.
OKAY, SO WE WILL RECEIVE THAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
SO WE WILL BE MOVING ONTO THE
PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT
BUDGET.
ALL RIGHT.
THIS ITEM IS THE ANNUAL
CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OR
CIP,
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CITY'S
FIVE-YEAR PLANNING DOCUMENT FOR
MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS
AND PUBLIC FACILITIES.
THE FIRST YEAR OF THE DOCUMENT,
THE FISCAL YEAR 2026, '27 PLAN
IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PLAN
BEFORE COUNCIL TONIGHT FOR
CONSIDERATION
AND ADOPTION.
THE REMAINING FOUR YEARS ARE A
PLANNING PROJECTION INTENDED
TO
ASSIST WITH LONG-TERM
PROJECT
DEVELOPMENT AND GRANTS.
SO TONIGHT I'M GOING TO WALK
THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE PROJECTS
IN THE '26, '27 CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
AND THEN I'LL PAUSE AFTER
EACH
ONE FOR QUESTIONS
AND
DISCUSSION.
AFTER ALL THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN
MOVED THROUGH AND
REVIEWED,
WE'LL RETURN TO THE FUNDING
SUMMARY, OPEN THE PUBLIC
HEARING, AND REQUEST THAT
COUNCIL CONSIDER
RESOLUTION
ADOPTING THE FY '26, '27 CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
ONE SEC TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
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I'M JUST GOING TO RUN
THROUGH
ALL OF THEM.
SO THE FIRST GROUP OF PROJECTS
IS FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
IF YOU HAVE YOUR
CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT BOOK, I PUT
THE
NUMBER ON THE TOP OF THE
PAGES
AND THE AGENDA NUMBER.
SO IF YOU HAVE YOUR BUDGET BOOK,
THIS IS TAB "J," PAGEPAGE 7.
AND IT'S PAGE 20 IN THE AGENDA.
SO THE FIRST PEDESTRIAN
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IS FOR
THE
BODEGA AVENUE GUARDRAILS
RIGHT
AT THE CITY LIMITS GOING
ACROSS
THE CREEK, THE SMALL
SECTION
THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY
INNER
LIMITS.
WE HAVE HIGHWAY
SAFETY
IMPROVEMENT FUNDS FOR THIS.
IT'S A GRANT PROJECT.
THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE, AND
WE
FOUND AT THE END OF THE
DESIGN
THAT THERE WAS A CONFLICT WITH
THE GAS LINE FROM PG&E, SO
WE'RE
WORKING WITH THEM TO MOVE
THAT,
AND THEN WE'LL BE MOVING THIS
INTO CONSTRUCTION
THIS YEAR.
PAUSE THERE.
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QUESTIONS?
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DO YOU THINK WE COULD HOLD
QUESTIONS?
WELL, MY PROBLEM IS I CANNOT SEE
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON,
SO I
DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD SPLIT
THE
SCREEN SO I COULD SEE HER, OR
MAYBE IF SHE HAS A
QUESTION SHE COULD
SPEAK UP.
I'M HAPPY TO DO
THAT.
OKAY.
THANK YOU, THAT WOULD BE
PERFECT.
I'LL JUST KIND OF -- NO
PROBLEM.
ALL RIGHT, THE SECOND OF
OUR
PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS
IS FOR THE CROSSINGS HIGHWAY
116
GOING THROUGH TOWN.
THERE ARE FOUR OF THESE.
WE'RE UPGRADING THE CROSSINGS AT
HUTCHENS AND WALKER, AND
THEN
WE'RE INSTALLING NEW
CROSSINGS
WITH RFB FLASHERS AT ANNETTE
AND
KEATING.
WE FINISHED THE PLAN AND DESIGN
SPECIFICATIONS IN MAY, AND I'M
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JUST LOOKING AT IT
THOUGHTFULLY
IN LIGHT OF THE CALTRANS GRANTGRANT
THAT WE RECEIVED AND THE
PLAN
THAT WAS PASSED BY THIS
COUNCIL
TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OF
THE
TRAFFIC COMMON MEASURES WE CAN
INCORPORATE INTO THE BURNETTE
CROSSING BEFORE WE PUT IT OUT
FOR
BID.
CAN I INSERT?
WE HAD A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC
LAST MEETING THAT ASKED TO MAKE
IT CLEAR WHERE EACH OF THE
FUNDS
ARE COMING FROM.
I KNOW THAT
THEY'RE ON THE
SCREEN, BUT I THOUGHT YOU
MIGHT
WANT TO MENTION
THEM.
YEAH, THIS ONE IS AN HCIP
PROJECT, SO HIGHWAY
SAFETY
IMPROVEMENT FUNDS, AND THERE'S A
PORTION OF MATCH FUNDING
FROM
OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES AND
FROM
SB-1, WHICH IS A STATE FUND
THAT
WE RECEIVE STREET
FUNDING FOR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT?
ALL RIGHT.
THE NEXT ONE IS FOR A
CROSSING AT
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THERE'S ALSO ASULAR PROJECT
YOU'LL SEE IN THE SAME SECTION.
WE'LL TRY TO DO A SEWER PROJECT
BEFORE, AND WE'LL REALLY
IMPROVING THIS
PEDESTRIAN
CROSSING TO BE A LITTLE SAFER.
THIS IS ALSO AN HSIP PROJECT
WITH SOME MATCH FUNDING FROM
OUR
TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES.
AND THE FINAL --
THIS ONE IS A
CROSSING AT SUNSET AND JOHNSON.
THIS PROJECT'S DESIGNED -- THIS
ONE'S 100% FUNDED BY OUR TRAFFIC
IMPACT FEES, BUT IT IS RIGHT BY
THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THAT KIND OF
BLIND CORNER GOING
AROUND
JOHNSON, SO A
DEFINITE
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUE.
AND THEN THE LAST
PEDESTRIAN
SAFETY ONE THIS IS THE SIGNAL AT
RAGLE ROAD AND BODEGA AVENUE.
THIS IS A GRANT THAT WE
SUBMITTED TO SDCTA.
WE WERE
WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK, BUT IF
WE WERE SUCCESSFUL, WE
WOULD
MOVE IN A SIGNAL LIGHT THERE.
NEXT WE HAVE OUR PARKS PROJECTS.
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PROJECTS
THIS IS THE
CALDER
CREEK PROJECT PHASE ONE.
THIS IS LOOKING TO ADVANCE
FOR
THE FIRST TWO PHASES UP TO THE
WEIRM SQUCH THE SECOND PROJECT
WE HAVE FOR THIS YEAR IS
FOR THE
IVES PARK PATHWAY.
THIS IS THE ADA WALKWAY FROM
THE
FIRST PHASE THAT ENDED AT
THE
BATHROOM TO THE PARKING LOT
WHERE WE HAVE OUR
ADA PARKING
STALL.
AND THIS ONE IS FUNDING DESIGN.
WE'RE HOPING TO GET IT
COMPLETED
OR CONSTRUCTED OVER THE WINTER.
AND THIS ONE IS ALL FUNDED BY
MEASURE
"M.
"
OKAY, THE NEXT BUNCH OF PROJECTS
WE HAVE ARE FOR THE
PAVEMENT
IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
THE FIRST ONE IS
THE
CONTINUATION OF THE DIG ADDISON
REPAIRS.
COUNCIL AWARDED THIS CONTRACT AT
OUR JUNE 16th MEETING.
WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH
THE
CONTRACTOR.
WE'RE DOING
PRECONSTRUCTION
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MEETING NEXT WEEK, AND WE
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SHOULD
BE INTO CONSTRUCTION BY THE
END
OF JULY FOR THIS DIG OUT AND
REPAIR PIECE.
AND THIS IS FUNDED I THINK --
LOST MY FUNDING.
LOST IT ON MY SCREEN.
QUESTION.
WILL THE STREET REPAIRS
BE
COMING BACK TO COUNCIL?
YES.
SO THAT'S THE DIG OUT AND REPAIR
THAT'S BEEN APPROVED THROUGH
COUNCIL.
SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE CITY
IMPROVEMENTS FOR FY26.
THESE WERE IMPROVEMENTS THAT
WERE APPROVED.
SO THIS IS IN DESIGN FOR
CONSTRUCTION OVER THE WINTER.
AND THEN THE FINAL ONE, THIS
IS
THE BIG PAVING PROJECT THAT
WILL
LOOK AT THE NEXT BUNCH
OF
STREETS.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK AT
KIND
OF A MULTIYEAR PAVING
PLAN
TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION
NOT
ONLY PCI BUT WHERE WE ARE IN
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SCHOOLS, WHAT OTHER
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PLANNED
STREETS WE'RE ON.
WE'RE LOOKING AT WATER AND
SEWER
PROJECTS THAT ALSO MIGHT
OVERLAP
AND TRY TO DO AN ANALYSIS
OF
WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST
STREETS
TO SPEND OUR REHAB MONEY ON.
THERE'S ALSO THE STREETS
THAT ARE
RECOMMENDED THROUGH OUR
PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN
FOR
LIKE A SLURRY OVERLAY,
SO WE
WANT TO DO KIND OF GROUPING OF
BOTH.
WE NEED TO DO SOME OF
THAT
PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE OVERLAY
PROJECTS TO MAINTAIN
STREETS,
BUT WE ALSO WANT TO GET SOME
OF
OUR BAD STREETS.
BUT JUST TO LET PEOPLE IN
THE
COMMUNITY KNOW HOW WE'RE
RANKING
THE STREETS AND WHEN WE'LL GET
TO THEM.
SO HOPING TO BRING THAT BACK
IN
SEPTEMBER FOR DESIGN,
AND WE
WANT TO BID IT IN DECEMBER-ISH.
IT SEEMS TO BE THE MOST
COMPETITIVE TIME TO BID
PAVING
PROJECTS AND BUILD IT IN THE
SPRING.
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THANK YOU.
AND THESE ARE OUR
SEWER
PROJECTS FOR THE YEAR.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS
ZIMPHER
GREEK PART ONE.
SO WE HAVE A LARGE LOAD ON
ONE
OF OUR LINES THAT GOES ALONG
ZIMPHER CREEK.
AND THIS PROJECT IS TO DIVERT
A
SECTION OF THE FLOWS IN
COVERT
LANE TO ZIMPHER CREEK TO
LIGHTEN
THE LOAD THERE WE HAVE TO FLUSH
REGULARLY TO KEEP IT FROM
OVERFLOWING.
AND THIS HAS BEEN DESIGNED, SO
WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS
OUT AS
SOON AS WE CAN.
THE HOLD UP IS GETTING
A
CALTRANS PERMIT FOR THE TRAFFIC
CONTROL ON LONG
HILLSBURG
AVENUE.
WITNESS WE GET THAT, WE'LL
CONSTRUCT THIS.
AND AS I MENTIONED THERE'S
ALSO
A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ON
COVERT,
SO WE'LL TRY TO DO THE
SEWER
LINE BEFORE WE DO THE CROSSING
SO WE DON'T CUT UP OUR
PAVING.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS
FROM COUNCIL?
NO?
WE CAN GO OUT TO PUBLIC
COMMENT,
PLEASE.
OH, I HAVE
MORE.
OH, YOU HAVE MORE,
SORRY.
WE'VE GOT MORE.
THIS IS THE ACTUAL
CREEK SECTION
THAT IS FAILING, SO IT'S
BEEN
PARTIALLY DESIGNED.
SO WE WANT TO GET THIS TO
100%
DESIGN SO THAT WE CAN
BUILD IT
THE NEXT YEAR.
THIS IS OUR SEWER MASTER PLAN.
WE STARTED THIS WORK.
THEY'RE DOING THE MODELING
AT
THE MOMENT, SO WE'LL BE UPDATING
THE FOC ON THAT
IN THE FALL AND
BRING IT BACK TO
COUNCIL IN THE
WINTER WITH
THE RECOMMENDATIONS
FOR MASTER PLAN CIP LIST.
AND THIS IS KIND OF A BUCKET
PROJECT FOR WASTEWATER SYSTEM
REPLACEMENT PROJECTS AND
OUR
VISION HERE IS MORE DOING
THOSE
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PAVING PROJECTS WHEN WE FIND
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FAILING SEWERS THAT WE'RE
ALSO
ABLE TO REPLACE THOSE KIND
OF IN
THIS CIP BUCKET.
THIS IS
MORRIS STREET.
WE APPROVED THIS AT THE
JUNE
16th COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I LEFT
IT IN HERE BECAUSE WE DID
LET
SOME BIDS COME IN SINCE THEN,
AND THEY'RE HIGHER THAN WHAT
WE
BUDGETED IN THE
ENGINEER'S
ESTIMATES.
WE HAVE A BUDGET
COMMITTEE
MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THAT,
AND
WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK
AN
AMENDMENT TO THE CIP WITH
OUR
FINAL MEMBERS HERE NEXT MEETING.
SO NOW WE'RE INTO OUR FLOOD
RESILIENCY MASTER PLANNING
EFFORTS.
THIS PLAN IS WELL UNDER WAY.
THEY'VE DONE ALL THE
YDRAULING
MODELING AND WE'RE MEETING
WITH
THE SONOMA WATER AGENCY
TOMORROW
TO SEE HOW OUR MODELS AND
THEIR
MODELS CAN SUPPORT EACH OTHER
TO
LOOK AT WHERE WE CAN START
BUILDING OUT CIP PROJECTS
IN
DRAINAGE AND STORM WATER.
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THE COMMUNITY CENTERS,
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THE
COUNCIL APPROVED THE LIST OF
REPAIRS, AND ZEE SOME
PRELIMINARY COSTS ON WHAT
THOSE
WILL BE, SO WE'LL BE
WORKING
THROUGH REPAIRING THOSE
FLOOD
DAMAGE PROJECTS THAT COMMUNITY
CENTER THIS YEAR.
COVERT CREEK WE TALKED ABOUT AND
APPROVED AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.
THIS IS OUR BIG-WATER
PROJECT
FOR THE YEAR.
WE JUST PASSED OUR MASTER
PLAN,
AND THE MAIN THING WE NEED TO
DO
IS REPLACE WALL FOUR.
WE JUST RECEIVED THE
PERMITTING
TO DO THE MONITORING WELL
THAT
WILL SUPPORT THE DESIGN
OF THE
NEW WELL, WHICH WILL BE
WELL
NINE.
THE OTHER PORTION OF THIS
PROJECT IS TO LOOK FOR
SOME
FINANCING TO FUND THIS PROJECT.
WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO WORK
WITH
THE CONSULTANT, IF COUNCIL
CHOOSES TO PAUSE OUR RATES.
WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET THAT
FUNDING, SO THIS MAY PUSH
OUT
ANOTHER YEAR UNTIL WE CAN HAVE
A
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STABLE RATE STRUCTURE THAT
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WOULD
SUPPORT FINANCING.
THEN THIS ONE IS TO DO TANK
ASSESSMENTS, SO
THERE'S TWO.
WANTED TO DO A STRUCTURAL
ASSESSMENT AND ONE IS TO DO A
SEISMIC ASSESSMENT OF THE
FIRST
STREET AND PLEASANT HILL TANKS.
AND THIS LAST WATER CIP IS FOR
A
WATER METER AT OUR YARD WHERE
WE
HAVE A WATER TOWER JUST
TO
BETTER AUTOMATE THE USE OF THAT
WATER.
SO THIS IS GLOBALLY OUR CIP FOR
WATER, AND I JUST WANTED TO
STOP
HERE AND SAY THAT IF WE
PAUSE
OUR RATE STRUCTURE AND OUR
TIERED RATES, WE WILL PROBABLY
NEED TO BRING SOME OF THIS
BACK
SO THAT WE'RE NOT DEFICIT
SPENDING TOO FAR
INTO OUR
RESERVES.
SO SOME OF THESE MAY PUSH OUT.
THE REAL PRIORITY
FOR US IS TO
COMPLETE THE DESIGN AT LEAST
ON
WELL FOUR SO WE CAN KIND
OF
POSITION OURSELVES FOR
FUNDING
WHEN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, HAS
A
RATE STRUCTURE THAT WILL
SUPPORT
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THAT.
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AND THEN MY LAST ONE IS
THE
POLICE STATION GENERATOR,
WHICH
WE'RE IN DESIGN ON AND WE'LL
DO
CONSTRUCTION AS SOON AS
THEY
COMPLETE THAT.
AND HERE'S MY GLOBAL
SUMMARY,
AND I'LL TAKE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS.
SEEING NO QUESTIONS, WE'LL
GO
OUT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU,
VICE MAYOR.
SO THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
ON
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CIP
PROJECTS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A
PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL COME INTO
CHAMBERS FIRST.
SEEING NONE, I WILL GO OUT TO
ZOOM.
KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES, THANK YOU.
I'M SORRY, JUST FOR A
SECOND.
STEVEN, CAN YOU UNSHARE THE
SCREEN, PLEASE, SO WE CAN
SEE
THE TIMER?
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GREAT,
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THANK YOU.
GO AHEAD WITH YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.
YES, I JUST REMEMBER THAT
THE
ROTARY HAD A PLAN FOR UP
GRADES
TO IVES PARK THAT WAS FULLY
FUNDED, AND I DON'T
REMEMBER
THAT COMING BACK AROUND.
O I
SO I JUST HAD -- I WAS
CURIOUS
ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT
SEEMED
LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
A
REALLY WONDERFUL PROJECT.
AND THEN I WAS ALSO
WONDERING
THE FENCE REPLACEMENT
WAS
EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL, AND I
THINK EVERYONE'S ENJOYING
THAT,
AND I WAS WONDERING
IF THERE
WILL BE MORE FENCE
REPLACEMENT
TAKING PLACE.
THOSE ARE MY TWO
QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
NEXT I WILL COME INTO CHAMBERS.
SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT
TO
ZOOM.
LEE, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF
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PLEASE?
YES, CAN YOU
HEAR?
I CAN.
CAN
YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YEP.
GREAT.
GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.
I THINK THIS IS A $10
MILLION
PLAN.
LAST YEAR'S PLAN WAS A
$10
MILLION PLAN.
I EXPRESSED SOME CONCERN
LAST
YEAR THAT YOU DON'T HAVE
THE
STAFF TO DO A $10 MILLION PLAN.
YOU ACTUALLY DID 4.2, I
GUESS,
BASED UPON THE SUMMARY SHEET
HERE, AND 2.5 OF THAT WAS
THE
PROJECT
IN BODEGA.
AS I GO BACK THROUGH YEARS
I
FIND THAT REPEATEDLY THAT
THERE'S A BIG PLAN
AND NOT MUCH GETS
DONE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE STUFF
THAT
GETS DONE IS PRIMARILY STUFF
THAT HAS A GRANT, AND THAT
SEEMS
TO DRIVE WHAT WE FIX.
AND IT'S NOT A VERY
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WAY TO
DO THINGS.
AND LIBRARY BUILDING I THINK
IS
A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.
JUST RECENTLY THE CITY
REPLACED
THE ROOF AND REPLACED THE SOLAR
PANELS, BUT APPARENTLY THERE
WASN'T ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THE
ACTUAL STRUCTURE
ITSELF.
MOST LIKELY BECAUSE THERE WAS
MONEY TO REPLACE -- FREE MONEY
TO REPLACE THE ROOF AND
THE
SOLAR PANELS, BUT THERE'S
NO
FREE MONEY TO GO INTO THE WALLS
AND FIX STUFF.
AND SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO BALANCE
THERE'S SOME MONEY
AVAILABLE
WITH THERE
ARE PRIORITIES THAT
ABSOLUTELY MUST BE FIXED --
STREETS, SOME OF OUR
PUBLIC
BUILDINGS ARE EXAMPLES OF THAT.
AND THE LAST PART OF THIS
WOULD
BE JUST TRANSPARENCY.
IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO
FIGURE
OUT IN ANY GIVEN YEAR WHAT
WAS
DONE -- WHAT WAS PLANNED.
WHAT WAS PLANNED IS ALWAYS
THERE.
WHAT WAS ACTUALLY DONE IS ALMOST
NEVER THERE UNLESS YOU REALLY GO
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SEARCHING AND YOU'RE NEVER
SURE
BECAUSE THE NUMBERS DON'T
MATCH
UP.
SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE
A
BETTER WAY OF RECONCILING
THIS,
AND IT WOULD BE BETTER
FOR CITY
COUNCIL TO SEE THE THINGS
THAT
MAYBE AREN'T BEING DONE.
MAYBE THEY COULD SAY, WAIT A
MINUTE, WE BETTER PRIORITIZE
FIGURING THAT ONE OUT.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
NEXT I WILL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.
SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.
IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC
COMMENT ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
PLEASE, GO AHEAD.
MY
NAME IS DOUG.
I LIVE ON PETALUMA AVENUE.
I'M JUST WONDERING HOW
YOU
PRIORITIZE THE CROSSINGS.
THE ONE AT BURNETT ANDAND
MAIN SEEMS TO ME TO BE
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VERY
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IMPORTANT.
I KNOW PEOPLE STEP OUT AND
THERE'S PARKING RIGHT UP TO THE
CROSSWALK, AND I WAS
JUST
TALKING WITH A GUY TODAY
WHO
SAID HE WAS ALMOST HIT THERE.
THANK
YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.
NEXT, I WILL GO BACK OUT
TO
ZOOM.
IF THERE'S ANYONE
ON ZOOM THAT
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT ON THE PUBLIC HEARING
FOR THE CIP TO PLEASE RAISE
YOUR
HAND VIRTUALLY.
SEEING NONE, I'LL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.
SEEING NONE, PUBLIC HEARING IS
CLOSED.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW
IF
SOMEONE COULDER AND THE
QUESTIONABOUT
HOW THOSE ARE PRIORITIZED,
CROSSINGS.
IN PAST EXPERIENCE CALTRANS
WILL DO TRAFFIC STUDIES AND
LOOK
AT THEM AND BURNETT IS ON
THAT
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LIST AND IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF
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THE CROSSINGS THAT NEEDS
HELP.
OKAY,
THANK YOU.
SO BACK TO THE DAIS FOR
ANY
COMMENTS OR A MOTION.
NO, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A
MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S
RECOMMENDATION.
SECOND.
THANK
YOU.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER
ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED
BY COUNCIL
MEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE
THE
RESOLUTION APPROVING THE
FISCAL
YEAR 26, 27 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PLAN.
COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER?
YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN.
YES.
VICE
MAYOR MAURER.
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YES.
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MAYOR McLEWIS IS ABSENT.
THE MOTION PASSES 4-1
WITH
COUNCIL MEMBER CARTERS,
HINTON,
VICE MAYOR MAURER IN
SUPPORT,
AND MAYOR McLEWIS IS
ABSENT.
SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE A
NICE,
SHORT BREAK, AND WE'LL BE
RIGHT
BACK AT IT.
OKAY, CAN WE BRING THE
MEETING BACK TO ORDER?
CODY, ARE WE
READY?
I GOT
IT.
I SEE A
THUMBS UP.
STEVEN, CAN YOU CHANGE
THE
VIEW TO GALLERY AS WELL, PLEASE?
ARE WE READY TO GO, PLEASE?
YES, WE'RE READY TO
RESUME.
OKAY.
SO WE'RE MOVING ONTO
REGULAR
CALENDER ITEM NUMBER
9,
DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION
OF
APPROVAL OF WAIVING THE
FIRST
READING AND INTRODUCTION OF
THE
ORDINANCE REGARDING CITY COUNCIL
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COMPENSATION.
GOOD EVENING.
EXCUSE ME, GOOD EVENING
VICE
MAYOR AND
COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO THIS IS FOLLOWING UP
ON
PREVIOUS DIRECTION FROM THE
COUNCIL.
BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A
DRAFT
ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 2.
44 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE TO ADJUST
COUNCIL COMPENSATION.
CURRENTLY THE
COUNCIL'S
COMPENSATION IS $300 PER
MONTH,
AND IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR
MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY
THE
CITY WAS AUTHORIZED TO INCREASE
THAT AMOUNT BY 5% PER YEAR, BUT
THE COUNCIL -- THE CITY
NEVER
DID.
RECENTLY STATE LAW READJUSTED
WHAT THE MAXIMUM SALARY COULD
BE
FOR ALL DIFFERENT CITIES AND
BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE CITY.
AND FOR THE CITY OF OUR
SIZE,
THE MAXIMUM COMPENSATION IS $950
PER MONTH SUBJECT TO POTENTIAL
FUTURE INCREASES THAT WOULD
NEED
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TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL
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INTHE
FUTURE.
SO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD
INCREASE COUNCIL COMPENSATION
TO
$950 PER MONTH.
UNDER STATE LAW, THAT
CANNOT
TAKE EFFECT UNTIL THERE IS THE
START OF A NEW COUNCIL
MEMBER
TERM.
SO THAT MEANS IT WOULDN'T TAKE
EFFECT UNTIL JANUARY OF 2027.
IT WOULD APPLY TO ALL
COUNCIL
MEMBERS, EVEN THOSE WHO ARE
CONTINUING TO SERVE OUT EXISTING
TERMS.
THE FISCAL IMPACT FOR
THIS
BECAUSE IT'S ONLY HALF OF
THE
YEAR THIS YEAR, THE
FISCAL
IMPACT WOULD BE ABOUT 37,000 --
EXCUSE ME, THE COST
WOULD
INCREASE FROM 18,000 TO
37,500
FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.
IN THE FUTURE WHEN THERE
ARE
FULL YEARS AT THE HIGH
COMPENSATION AMOUNT, THAT
WOULD
BE $57,000 TOTAL.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE
STAFF
REPORT GOES INTO HOW MUCH
TIME
AND WHAT A COMMITMENT IT IS TO
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BY A COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE YEAR
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2026 AND HOW MUCH MORE
IS
INVOLVED IN IT THAN WHEN THE
CITY SET THAT RATE BACK IN --
YOU KNOW, DECADES AGO,
FRANKLY,
THE 300.
SO WITH THAT I'LL PAUSE AND
SEE
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS
FROM
THE
COUNCIL.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
I SEE NO QUESTIONS, SO WE WILL
GO OUT TO PUBLIC COMMENT,
PLEASE.
THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.
SO THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT
FOR
THE INTRODUCTION OF THE
ORDINANCE ON CITY COUNCIL
COMPENSATION.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT, I'LL COME OUT OUGHT
TO
CONVERSATION AND COME OUT TO
ZOOM.
GOOD EVENING.
I HOPE YOU APPRECIATE
THIS
INCREASE BECAUSE THIS IS
A
POLICY THAT THE STATE-WIDE
CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY
NAACP HAS
ADVOCATED FOR TO INCREASE
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YOUR
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SUPPORTIVE
FISCAL SUPPORT IN
YOUR ROLES.
SO JUST KNOW THIS IS
NOT
SOMETHING THAT IS
ARBITRARILY
BEING BROUGHT FORWARD BY
YOUR
JURISDICTION OF YOUR CITY
STAFF,
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A
STATEWIDE ENDEAVOR SUPPORTED
BY
THE NAACP ACROSS THE
STATE
BROUGHT FORWARD BY AT THE
TIME
STATE SENATOR BILL DODD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.
NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM.
KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE,
PLEASE?
YES.
I'M UNMUTED, I
BELIEVE.
YOU ARE.
CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER STILL?
I
CAN.
GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.
AS A STUDENT OF SEBASTOPOL,
I
100% SUPPORT COUNCIL RAISES.
I KNOW HOW HARD COUNCIL
MEMBERS
WORK, AND I ADMIRE THEIR
DILIGENCE AND THE HUNDREDS AND
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HUNDREDS OF HOURS THAT
THEY
SPEND WORKING ON BEHALF OF
OUR
COMMUNITY.
IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT JOB.
AS A WATER AND SEWER
RATEPAYER,
I CANNOT SUPPORT THE
RAISES
UNLESS THE CITY COUNCIL TIME IS
REMOVED FROM THE
RATEPAYER
EXPENSES DUE TO THE FACT
THAT
COUNCIL ACTUALLY SPENDS
VERY
LITTLE TIME ON WATER AND
SEWER
ISSUES.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY I
100% AS
A CITIZEN SUPPORT THE
COUNCIL
RAISES BUT BELIEVE THAT
COUNCIL
TIME SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE
RATEPAYER EXPENSE POOL.
THANK
YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
NEXT I WILL COME INTO CHAMBERS.
IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS.
SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.
LEE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
CAN YOU HEAR
ME?
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I CAN HEAR YOU.
CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER
STILL?
SURE.
GREAT.
GO
AHEAD, PLEASE.
THIS IS ALLOWED BY LAW,
NOT
MANDATED.
IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT TONEDEAF
IN THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL
GIVEN
THAT YOU'VE REPEATEDLY BEEN TOLD
BY DIRECTOR WONG THERE'S
A
STRUCTURAL DEFICIT.
THAT MEANS THAT EXPENSES
IN
SALARIES AND BENEFITS ARE 60% OF
THE EXPENSES IN THIS CITY ARE
GROWING FASTER THAN REVENUE.
AND OVER TIME THE
INEVITABLE
RESULT WILL BE A FEW PEOPLE HERE
GETTING PAID, DOING NO
WORK
BECAUSE THERE'S NO MONEY TO DO
WORK.
IF YOU'RE DOING THIS JOB FOR
$900 A MONTH, YOU MIGHT WANT TO
REEXAMINE YOUR LIFE GOALS.
THANKS.
THANK YOU, LEE, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
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CHAMBERS.
IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS
THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC
COMMENT.
SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.
MARY, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES.
THANK YOU.
CAN YOU SEE THE
TIME R?
I
CAN.
GREAT, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
I SUPPORT THE RAISES BUT
I
ABSOLUTELY OPPOSE IT IF THIS
IS
COMING TO WATER
RATE PAYERS.
ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO THAT.
GET
IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
OKAY, THANK YOU.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
NEXT I'LL COME INTO CHAMBERS.
SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.
CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
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PLEASE?
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YES.
THANK YOU.
CAN YOU SEE THE
TIMER?
SURE,
YES.
GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.
SO THIS IS KENT JENKINS.
AGAIN, I AM A MEMBER OF THE
BUILDING THE COMMONS COMMITTEE.
AND ONE OF THE PLEASURES
AND
PRIVILEGES I'VE HAD IS TO WATCH
TWO OF OUR
SITTING COUNCIL
MEMBERS AND HOW THEY ENGAGE
WITH
THE COMMITTEE, THE TIME THEY
SPEND ON IT, AND REALIZE THIS IS
ONLY ONE OF DOZENS
OF COMMITTEES
AND MEETINGS THAT THEY GO
TO ON
A WEEKLY BASIS.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW
ANYBODY
WITHOUT SOME OUTSIDE SUPPORT
SYSTEM COULD EXIST AND DO
THIS
KIND OF WORK ON THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY THAT THEY GET NOW.
SO WHAT
THAT MEANS, OF COURSE,
IS THAT ANYONE WHO'S NOT IN
A
PRIVILEGED POSITION TO
HAVE
THEIR TIME SUBSIDIZED IS
UNABLE
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TO SERVE.
AND WE OBVIOUSLY COULD USE SOME
DIVERSITY IN OUR BOARD AND
IN
OUR PEOPLE WHO
SERVE THE CITY.
SO I THINK THE RATE
INCREASE
MAKES A MINIMAL SENSE
AND
CERTAINLY OPENS THE POOL
TO
PEOPLE WHO MIGHT ACTUALLY MAKE
A
FEW DOLLARS PER HOUR TO
ACTUALLY
SERVE OUR CITY AND TAKE THE
TIME
TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE ISSUES AND
RESEARCH THINGS THE WAY THEY
SHOULD.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS.
IF THERE'S ANYONE IN
CHAMBERS
THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT.
SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK --
OH,
I'M SORRY.
GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.
HI.
I HADN'T PLANNED ON MAKING
A
COMMENT.
MY NAME IS JANELLE.
MY FATHER SPENT YEARS ON
THIS
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COUNCIL AND SERVED A FEW TERMS
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AS MAYOR.
I LIVED IN THIS TOWN A WEEK
SHY
OF 59 YEARS.
I THINK $100 IS A LOT OF MONEY.
AS I REMEMBER SERVING ON THIS
COUNCIL, AND THIS IS NOT
TO
DIMINISH WHAT YOU DO
BECAUSE
IT'S TRULY APPRECIATED.
BUT AS I REMEMBER, SERVING ON
THE COUNCIL IS DONE BECAUSE
OF
HOW MUCH WE LOVE OUR CITY
AND
THE PASSION THAT WE HAVE FOR
OUR
CITY.
I KNOW THAT'S WHAT MY DAD
AND
FELLOW COUNCIL PEOPLE OVER THE
20 YEARS -- THAT'S JUST THE WAY
THEY WORKED.
AND, YEAH, IT'S NOT YOUR
FULLTIME JOB.
AND IT CAN'T BE YOUR FULLTIME
JOB.
AND I JUST --
UNFORTUNATELY,
THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
SO I JUST FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO
SAY SOMETHING
ABOUT THAT.
TRULY NOT TO DIMINISH -- I
KNOW
I'M REPEATING MYSELF NOW --
WHAT
I'VE ALREADY SAID BECAUSE YOU VERY VALUABLE.
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BUT WITH ALL THE OTHER
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FINANCIAL
OBSTACLES RIGHT NOW, I
THINK
THAT $900 IS A LOT MORE THAN
MOST PEOPLE IN TOWN THINK IT
SHOULD BE.
THANKS.
THANK YOU, JANELLE, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
NEXT I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM.
IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM
THAT
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT, TO PLEASE RAISE
YOUR
HAND VIRTUALLY.
SEEING NONE, I'LL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.
IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS.
SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT
IS
CLOSED ON THIS
ITEM.
OKAY, BRINGING IT BACK
TO
COUNCIL FOR FURTHER COMMENTS
AND/OR A MOTION.
BUT BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION, LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, SO ANYONE ELSE HAVE A COMMENT?
WHAT I HAD SAID BEFORE.
WE DEFINITELY DO NEED
DIVERSITY
AND PERSPECTIVE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE SERVING IN
ANY CAPACITY THAT I KNOW
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THAT'S LOWER THAN 50 YEARS OLD.
SO IF WE REALLY WANT TO
START
BRINGING IN DIVERSE VOICES
AND
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE
WHO
ARE LITERALLY LIVING ON THE
MARGINS, THE COMMUNITY, THE
QUEER, THE TRANS, THE
DISABILITY
COMMUNITIES, WE NEED TO START
THINKING ABOUT
WHAT WE'RE DOING
TO ALLOW THEM TO SIT HERE
OR SIT
ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR
SIT ON ANYTHING, HONESTLY.
I KNOW WE'RE IN A FINANCIAL SET
OF CIRCUMSTANCES.
TO BE HONEST IT'S GOING TO
TAKE
A LOT OF PEOPLE A LOT OF TIME
TO
DIG US OUT OF
THE SITUATION
WE'RE IN.
THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, AND I
WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS.
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON.
YES, I DIDN'T
HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE THE
LAST TIME THIS CAME UP.
I DID ASK FOR THE AGENDA TO BE
RESHUFFLED, AND I WAS DENIED.
SO I'M WEIGHING IN ON THIS
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FOR
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THE FIRST TIME.
AND I HAVE TO SAY I'M
NOT SUPPORTIVE
OF THIS.
I DON'T BELIEVE PEOPLE RUN
FOR
CITY COUNCIL FOR MONEY.
I DON'T THINK MONEY IS
THE
MOTIVATION.
AND IF I THOUGHT IT WAS, I
MIGHT
FEEL DIFFERENTLY.
BUT HAVING SERVED ON THE
COUNCIL
FOR TEN YEARS, I THINK THAT WE
SERVE BECAUSE WE'RE SERVING OUR
COMMUNITY.
AND I DON'T KNOW THIS KIND OF
A
RAISE, GIVING OURSELVES A
THREE
TIME RAISE, 217% INCREASE AT
THIS TIME MAKES SENSE.
I WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT A AMOUNT, BUT TO GO TO
THE
MAXIMUM OF $950, I JUST
CANNOT
SUPPORT THAT WITH WHERE THE CITY
IS WITH THE FISCAL CRISIS.
SO I -- I WISH I HAD BEEN
ABLE
TO WEIGH IN WHEN THIS WAS
DIRECTED TO STAFF AND LEAVES
ME
A LITTLE IN AN
UNCOMFORTABLE
SPOT TONIGHT.
BUT I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING
IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER.
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YEAH, I WOULD SUPPORT A
MORE
GRADUAL INCREASE.
KIND OF ALL OR NOTHING, BUT
WE
DEFINITELY NEED QUALITY
PEOPLE
TO COME UP AND SERVE.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT
MONETARY
COMPENSATION IS NEEDED FOR
THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE MAYBE YOUNGER
THAT HAVE A LOT OF OTHER
THINGS
GOING ONTO MAKE IT WORTH IT
BECAUSE I THINK I SPEND 40
HOURS
CRAMMED INTO TWO DAYS A
WEEK
DEALING WITH THE CITY FOR --
FOR
$300.
AND THAT IS ABOUT LOVE,
BUT NOT
EVERYBODY CAN LOVE IT THAT
HARD.
AND -- AND, YOU KNOW, I
THINK,
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING
TO
ATTRACT SOME PEOPLE WITH FULL
FAMILIES AND FULL LIVES, THAT
LITTLE BIT OF COMPENSATION
KIND
OF, LIKE, EASES THE PAIN
ON
THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING
IT.
SO WE DID HAVE A PRETTY FULL
DISCUSSION ON THIS A MONTH
OR
MORE AGO, AND THERE WERE
MANY
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REASONS THAT WE GAVE WHY WE
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WERE
IN SUPPORT
OF IT.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS IN
1984 WHEN THIS RATE WAS
ESTABLISHED, IT WAS $300
IN
1984.
IF YOU ESCALATE THAT TO
2026,
THE AMOUNT IS ACTUALLY $950.
SO WHAT $300 COULD HAVE BOUGHT
IN 1984, $950 CAN BUY TODAY.
SO TO ME THAT'S A
RESPECTFUL
POINT OF VIEW.
AND FOR ALL THE OTHER REASONS
THAT THIS LAW
WAS ESTABLISHED.
SO, I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE I
THINK
IN 1984 YOU COULD RENT
A
ONE-BEDROOM STUDIO FOR $300, AND
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN
DO THAT
TODAY.
SO TO ME IT'S ABOUT EQUITY
AND
ITS ABOUT RESPECT, SO I WILL
BE
SUPPORTING THIS.
SO I WOULD PREFER TO
JUST
SUPPORT THE FULL RATE
RATHER
THAN LOWER IT AT THIS TIME.
AND I'M WONDERING IF WE
SHOULD
WAIT FOR MAYOR McLEWIS TO
BE
JOINING US TO MAKE
THIS
DECISION.
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OR, YEAH, WHAT ARE YOUR
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--
I'M
JUST ASKING WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS
ARE.
WE ALL HAVE LIVES AND MOST
OF
US DO THE BEST WE CAN TO
MAKE
EVERY
MEETING, BUT IT'S ALMOST
IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO, SO
I'M
GOING TO, AGAIN, STATE MY
SUPPORT AND STATE IT
FOR THE
FULL
AMOUNT.
IS THERE A
MOTION?
SO MOVED.
I'M MOVING STAFF'S
RECOMMENDATION.
AND I'LL SECOND THAT.
CAN WE TAKE A ROLL CALL
PLEASE?
THANK YOU.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER
ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED BY
VICE
MAYOR MAURER TO APPROVE
THE
WAIVING OF THE FIRST READING
AND
INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCE
FOR
CITY COUNCIL COMPENSATION IN
THE
AMOUNT AS PROPOSED AS $950.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER.
YES.
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COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON.
NO.
COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN.
YES.
VICE MAYOR MAURER.
YES.
MAILER McLEWIS IS ABSENT.
THE MOTION PASSES 3-1-1
WITH
COUNCIL MEMBERS CARTER,
ZOLLMAN,
AND VICE MAYOR MAURER IN
SUPPORT.
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON IN
OPPOSITION, AND MAYOR McLEWIS
ABSENT.
OKAY, THANK YOU.
SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS
THE
DISCUSSION
AND CONSIDERATION OF
THE SUSPENSION OF THE
TIERED
WATER RATES AND FISCAL YEAR
'26,
'27 WATER RATE
INCREASES
EFFECTIVE JULY 1st UNTIL
SUCH A
TIME THAT A NEW WATER RATE
STUDY
CAN BE
COMPLETED.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN,
VICE
MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
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SO AS THE VICE MAYOR
STATED,
THIS PROPOSED RESOLUTION TONIGHT
WOULD DO TWO
THINGS.
FIRST, IT WOULD SUSPEND THE
CITY'S TIERED WATER RATES.
AND THE CITY'S TIERED WATER
RATES, THE CITY HAS TWO CHARGES
A MONTHLY RATE THAT'S DIVIDED
INTO.
THERE'S A FIXED COST
THAT'S
BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE
METER,
AND THEN THERE IS A
CHARGE
THAT'S BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF
WATER USED.
THAT RATE DIFFERS DEPENDING ON
WHAT TYPE OF CUSTOMER YOU
ARE
AND WHAT -- HOW MUCH WATER
YOU
USE.
SO SUSPENDING THOSE RATES WOULD
MAKE EVERYONE PAY THE
SAME
AMOUNT OF -- SAME RATE FOR
WATER
USE.
THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGE TO
THE
FIXED MONTHLY COST THAT IS BASED
ON THE METER SIZE.
THERE'S A CHART AT THE BOTTOM OF
THE STAFF REPORT THAT SHOWS WHAT
THAT WOULD BE -- WHAT
THE
CURRENT RATES ARE AND WHAT THE
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22 PROPOSED RATES WOULD BE.
THE PROPOSED RATE FOR A
THOUSAND
GALLONS OF WATER WOULD BE $5.
FOR ALL CUSTOMERS.
THE SECOND PART OF THIS
RESOLUTION WOULD SUSPEND THE
ANTICIPATED OR RATHER
SCHEDULED
WATER RATE INCREASE THAT WAS
TO
GO INTO EFFECT ON JULY 1,
2026.
BASED ON THE SCHEDULE --
FIVE-YEAR SCHEDULE OF RATES THAT
THE COUNCIL APPROVED BACK IN
2024, THERE WAS ANTICIPATED TO
BE A 4% RATE INCREASE ON
JULY
1st.
IF THE COUNCIL ADOPTS THIS
RESOLUTION, THAT RATE
INCREASE
WOULD BE SUSPENDED.
AND SO THE 2025 RATES
WOULD
CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR THE
FIXED
MONTHLY CHARGE AS WELL ASAS
RATE BASEDBASED THE AMOUNT OF
WATER USED.
AND THE COUNCIL MET IN
CLOSED
SESSION LAST WEEK
TO DISCUSS
ISSUES REGARDING WATER AND SEWER
RATES, AND UNDER THREATS
OF
LITIGATION THAT THE COUNCIL HAS
RECEIVED IT.
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AND DURING THAT MEETING
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THE
COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF
TO DO
FOUR THINGS.
FIRST TO CREATE AN ISSUE IN
RFP
FOR A NEW WATER AND SEWER RATE
STUDY.
SECOND WAS TO CREATE AN RFP
FOR
A NEW COST ALLOCATION PLAN
FOR
THE WATER AND SEWER AND PRICED
FUNDS AND WHAT THEY -- HOW THEY
REIMBURSED THE GENERAL FUND FOR
SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE GENERAL
FUND.
AND THEN TO BRING THIS ITEM
FORWARD TONIGHT, THAT SCHEDULED
TONIGHT, AND THEN ON JULY 21st
TO BRING FORWARD AN AGENDA ITEM
TO FORGIVE THE LOAN THAT GENERAL
FUND PREVIOUSLY MADE TO
SEWER
ENTERPRISE FUND.
SO TONIGHT THE ONLY
ACTION
BEFORE THE COUNCIL IS THE
RESOLUTION, BUT I DO WANT
TO
TOUCH ON PREVIOUSLY CITY
STAFF
HAS TAKEN STEPS TO
IMPLEMENT TIME
TRACKING.
THEY MET WITH SPRING BOOK TO
SEE
HOW THIS COULD BE
INCORPORATED
INTO THE CURRENT SYSTEM.
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SPRING BROOK IS PROPAIRING A
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DEMO FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT.
IN PART WHY THE COUNCIL HAS
DIRECTED THE FREEZE AND FOR
TO
FREEZE TO APPLY INTO THE WATER
RATE STUDY COMES INTO -- IS
UPDATED SO THAT STAFF HAS TIME
TO IMPLEMENT THESE CHANGES,
THAT
WE CAN BRING ON A CONSULTANT
WHO
CAN LET US KNOW
EXACTLY HOW
MUCH -- WHAT PERIOD OF TIME OF
TIME TRACKING IS NECESSARY
BEFORE THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED
TO A -- TO A STUDY.
IS ONE MONTH ENOUGH,
SHOULD THEY
GO ON FOR A LONGER PERIOD
OF
TIME?
THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
THEN A NEW COST AND ALLOCATION
AND RATE STUDY POTENTIALLY
GO
HAND IN HAND.
THE COST ALLOCATION MIGHT
IMPACT
THE RATE STUDY DEPENDING ON
WHAT
IT SAYS -- YOU KNOW, LOWERING
THE RATES THAT ARE NECESSARY OR
INCREASING IT.
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE
RATE
STUDY SAYS.
BUT THE ITEM BEFORE THE
COUNCIL
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TONIGHT IS A RESOLUTION
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TO
SUSPEND THE RATE INCREASE
THAT
WOULD HAVE GONE INTO EFFECT JULY
1 AND TO ELIMINATE THE TIERED
WATER RATES.
AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL
PAUSE
TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY
QUESTIONS
FROM THE
COUNCIL TONIGHT.
JUST ONE THING
I'LL ADD.
THIS WILL
HAVE A FISCAL IMPACT.
THE STAFF REPORT DETAILS
WHAT
THAT WOULD BE AS WELL AS
THE
AGENDA.
THAT FISCAL IMPACT IS ASSUMING A
FULL -- THIS, YOU KNOW,
REMAINS
IN EFFECT FOR THE FULL YEAR.
BUT, OF COURSE, IF -- IF THE
STUDY IS ADOPTED SOONER,
IT
MAY -- THE IMPACT MAY BE
DIFFERENT.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL PAUSE FOR
ANY
QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER?
NO?
OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON.
SO I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA
ITEM, AND IT JUST SAYS TO
ELIMINATE
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TIERED, BUT HOW
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DOES
THAT IMPACT OUR COMMERCIAL
HIRES, THAT BYWATER FROM CITY
OF
SEBASTOPOL?
DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE
ELIMINATING
TIERED FOR
WATER HAULERS?
YES, EVERYONE WOULD BE
PAID
THE -- WOULD PAY THE SAME RATE
REGARDLESS OF USE CLASS OR HOW
MUCH WATER IS USED.
THEY'D PAY THE SAME $5.22 PER A
THOUSAND GALLONS
OF WATER.
OKAY.
AND THEN, ALEX, CAN YOU SPEAK
TO
WHEN WE VOTED IN TIERED
RATES,
THAT WAS AN OPTION THAT OTHER
CITIES USED AND WAS GIVEN TO
US
AS -- IT FELT LIKE IT WAS
OKAY,
AUTHORIZED -- TO ME I FRANKLY
VOTED FOR IT.
IT MADE SENSE TO ME.
YOU USED MORE, YOU PAID MORE.
I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION
AT
LENGTH.
AND NOW WE'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT
TIERED IS NOT THE BEST OPTION,
AND SO THIS IS A
RECOMMENDATION
FROM TONIGHT TO CHANGE THAT
FROM
OUR PREVIOUS ADVICE THAT WE
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WERE
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GIVEN, CORRECT?
CORRECT.
BUT TO ADD SOME NUANCE TO IT,
SO
TIERED RATES ARE LEGAL AND
REMAIN LEGAL IF THE TIERS
ARE
BASED ON DIFFERENT COSTS
THAT
APPLY TO SERVING THE DIFFERENT
TIERS
OF RATES.
OUR RATE STUDY ESTABLISHES TIERS
BASED ON PEAKING COSTS, WHICH TO
OVERSIMPLIFY IS TO ESSENTIALLY
SAYING SYSTEM DESIGN TO
SERVE
THE MAXIMUM DEMAND, SYSTEMSYSTEM
TO BE BIGGER, THERE ARE BIGGER
COSTS, AND YOU ASSIGN SOME
OF
THOSE COSTS TO HIGH-VOLUME
USERS
BECAUSE IF EVERYONE USED
LESS,
THEN YOU COULD HAVE SMALLER
PUMPS, SMALLER PIPES, THAT
SORT
OF THING.
SO THAT'S THE DESIGN OF WHAT
OUR
STUDY WAS DESIGNED
ON.
SINCE THAT TIME OUR STUDY WAS
ADOPTED WITH MOST RATES,
THERE'S
BEEN THREE ISSUES THAT THE
COURT
OF OPINION DEALING WITH TIERED
WATER RATES.
TWO OF THEM STRUCK DOWN THE
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TIERS AS SAYING THE AGENCY
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INVOLVED HADN'T MET ITS
BURDEN
TO SHOW THAT THE TIERS
CORRESPONDED TO INCREASED COSTS.
THOSE TWO CASES HAD TO DO
WITH -- WITH AGENCIES WHO
BASE
THEIR FEES ON PEAKING COSTS
JUST
LIKE WE DO.
A THIRD AGENCY'S WERE UPHELD BY
THE
COURT OF APPEALS.
THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT
HAS
TAKEN UP THE CASE TO ANSWER
THAT
QUESTION, BUT A DECISION IS
NOT
EXPECTED FOR, YOU KNOW, 18 PLUS
MONTHS ON THAT,
AND SO I THINK I
WOULDN'T NECESSARILY
SAY OUR
CURRENT RATES ARE ILLEGAL.
I WOULD SAY THAT THE LAW IS
LESS
CLEAR THAN IT WAS AT THE
TIME,
AND
THE COUNCIL HAS DECIDED
RATHER THAN WAIT THAT AMOUNT
OF
TIME FOR THE SUPREME
COURT'S
DECISION TO INSTEAD, YOU KNOW,
PROACTIVELY ADDRESS THIS
ISSUE
GIVEN THE -- THE RECENT COURT
CASES.
THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILED
EXPLANATION.
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OTHER QUESTIONS?
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OKAY, WE CAN GO OUT TO PUBLIC
COMMENT.
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IT IS A DATA-DRIVEN DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS HOW THE CITY CAN RESTORE THE $5.5
BILLION APPLIED BY THE GRAND JURY CONTINUE WITH INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES, REMOVE TIERS AND KEEP WATER AND SEWER RATES IF NECESSARY. THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS IDENTIFIED TIERED RATES AS LEGALLY VULNERABLE. THE COUNCIL'S ADVOCATES FOR THE CITY TO REMOVE THE TIERS . THIS IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE THERE'S
A CONFLICT OF INTEREST BETWEEN THE CITIES DUTY TO THE CITY AND THE CITY'S JUDICIARY DUTY TO THE RATEPAYERS. THIS ACTION OF SIMPLY REDUCING REVENUE IS NOT GOOD FOR THE RATEPAYERS. IT RUNS THE RISK OF JEOPARDIZING NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR, WHICH WAS IDENTIFIED BY DIRECTOR HART. THE CITY IS IN A
LEGAL PINNACLE WITH THE GRAND JURY AND WITH ITS TIERED RATES BECAUSE IT NEVER HAD A RATEPAYER ADVOCATE GROUPS LIKE US DOES NOW. THE E FOC IS A GROUP FOR RATEPAYERS AND THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. IN ADDITION, THEY NEVER RECOMMENDED A NEW RATE STUDY. THE REPAYMENT OF THE LEGAL FEES, WHICH I MENTIONED EARLIER. PLEASE HAVE ALEX SHOW THE INVOICES THAT HE ACTUALLY DID
THAT WORK, AND WE RECOMMENDED TIME TRACKING, WHICH I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THE CITY IS STARTING TO IMPLEMENT. OBVIOUSLY, YOU WOULD NEED TIME TRACK FOR
AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TO GET AN ACCURATE DATA ON HOW MUCH TIME IS SPENT ON THE WATER AND SEWER. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IS THERE ANYONE. LEE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER? YES. I THINK JUST DECIDING UNILATERALLY TO FREEZE RATES IS WRONG ON SEVERAL LEVELS. AS KATE SAID, THEY HAVE A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DIFFERENT
CHANGES THAT WOULD MAKE US MOVE MORE TOWARD COMPLIANCE AND AT THE SAME TIME BALANCE OFTEN NEED AND FREEZE RATES. ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, I THINK, AND
I'M SURE COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON WAS THERE, BUT THE COUNCIL OF THE TIME VOTED TO REDUCE RATES, I THINK AND THAT -- COMING OUT OF COVID. THAT RAPIDLY DEPLETED THE RESERVES BOTH THE WATER AND SEWER. SEWER WENT $1 MILLION IN DEBT. THE WATER WENT ALMOST BANKRUPT ALMOST TO ZERO AND ONE OF THE
REASONS FOR THE HIGH RATES IS THERE WAS AN URGENT NEED TO REPLACE THOSE RESERVES WHERE YOU CAN BORROW MONEY. SO THERE'S A CONSEQUENCE TO THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS. THIS DECISION, YOU WILL BE BACK BELOW -- DEPLETE THE RESERVES ENTIRELY WITHIN THREE YEARS WITH THIS DECISION. YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I GUESS THAT IS MY BASIC COMMENT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXTIVA COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. SEEING NONE I WILL GO BACK OUT.
MARY, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.
YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
GO AHEAD.
I WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT DECISION, AND AS THE ENTERPRISE
FUND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEMBER, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT MOST OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOT BEING FOLLOWED THROUGH AND I'M NOT BEING DISCUSSED -- OTHER AVENUES OF RESOLUTION THAT ARE BEING FOCUSED ON. IT'S GREAT
THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TIERS , BUT WE DID NOT RECOMMEND A NEW CASE
STUDY UNTIL TIME TRACKING AND SEWER MASTERPLAN AND THE GRAND JURY RESTITUTION WAS IMPLEMENTED. AND -- I NEED TO LOOK AT MY NOTES. WE JUST -- WE
WANT TO SEE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING. SO THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU. SORRY, MY NOTES ARE NOT COMING UP. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS. I WILL GO OUT TO SEE HIM. KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.
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SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS NOW PRETTY CONSISTENTLY FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS THAT I CONTINUE TO HEAR I AM BOGGLED BY.
WHAT THEY SUGGEST TO ME IS A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE ISSUE, AND IT
SUGGESTS TO ME THAT COUNCIL HAS NOT DONE A DEEP ENOUGH DIVE INTO THIS ISSUE
BECAUSE THE QUESTIONS THEY ARE ASKING SUGGEST THAT THEY HAVE NOT READ THE REPORTS, THEY HAVE NOT DUG INTO THIS WELL ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND. AND I DON'T
KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM THE FACT THAT
YOU FAILED YOUR FIDUCIARY DUTY TO PROTECT THE ENTERPRISE FUND OVER THE LAST
NINE YEARS AS THE COST ALLOCATION HAS SKYROCKETED TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE
WATCHING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THINGS LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET AND THAT YOU DID NOT SEE THAT. AND YOU WERE NOT LOOKING FOR THAT AND YOU ARE NOT ASKING ABOUT THAT FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS. TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE AT NOW, $5.5 MILLION OF MISALLOCATED FUNDS. SO THE KIND OF LITTLE
CHISEL AWAY AT SOLUTIONS THAT YOU ARE CONTINUING TO DO AT THIS POINT
WITHOUT LOOKING AT WHAT YOU FAILED TO DO OVER THE LAST NINE YEARS, THAT IS THE TROUBLING PART. IF PLAYING NAÏVE AND ASKING QUESTIONS THAT SEEM LIKE YOU'RE IGNORANT TO THE ISSUE IS A WAY TO PROTECT YOURSELF, SO BE IT. BUT JUST KNOW THAT YOU HAVE $5.5 MILLION OF RATEPAYER MONEY THAT WAS MISALLOCATED TO THE GENERAL FUND. THE DECISION TONIGHT WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT
IF YOU DON'T MISALLOCATED MONEY IN THE FUTURE, WHAT IS IT ACTUALLY CAUSED TO
RUN THE WATER DISTRICT AND THE WASTEWATER DISTRICT AND I ASSURE YOU IT COSTS FAR LESS WHEN YOU STOP MISALLOCATED FUNDS TO THE GENERAL FUND.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE CHAMBERS. IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS? I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YES. I APPRECIATE THE ONGOING PUBLIC COMMENT HERE TONIGHT AND ALL THAT WE'VE RECEIVED. I APPRECIATE THE WATER AND SEWER OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WORK. I
BELIEVE THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS ALEX POINTED OUT, THIS MIGHT BE A GREAT DISCUSSION NOW HAS NOT BEEN A GREAT DISCUSSION. CLOSED SESSION WAS VERY THOROUGH. AND I THINK THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BRING US
CLOSER TO COMPLIANCE AND ALSO IT DOES MAKE SENSE FROM A LEGAL POINT OF VIEW,
GIVEN THE SPLIT IN AUTHORITY OF THESE PAST COURT CASES THAT WE DO TRY TO
CORRECT AND ANTICIPATE THE WORST POSSIBLE THING THAT COULD HAPPEN IF THE SUPREME COURT RULES LIKE EVERYTHING IS NOT GREAT. AT LEAST WE'VE MADE STEPS.
WE'VE MADE STEPS WITH THE NEW COST ALLOCATION AND I UNDERSTAND THERE WERE
MANY COMMENTS OUT THERE THE FACT THAT YOU CANNOT DO A COST ALLOCATION WITHOUT -- STAFF TIME. WE HEARD FROM MARY. THEY ARE GOING TRY TO DO THAT. IN
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT IS MISSING IN THIS IS THE FACT THAT ALEX DID SAY
PART OF WHAT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS IS TO BRING IN A CONSULTANT TO TELL US HOW LONG SHOULD WE BE DOING THIS TIME TRACKING? SHOULD BE A MONTH, SHOULD BE SIX MONTHS? WE ARE NOW GOING TO BE RELYING ON CONSULTANTS TO
GUIDE US INTO THEIR DIRECTION WHERE I'M HOPING WE CAN BE WHERE EVERYBODY WANTS US TO BE. JUST BY WAY OF WHAT IS RIGHT AND ALSO BY WAY OF PROP 218 . I DO
UNDERSTAND WHAT ALEX SAID THAT DOING THE COST ALLOCATION REPEAT IS TIED TOGETHER WITH THE RATE STUDY AS WELL. THOSE TWO MAKE SENSE. SO STAFF'S
RECOMMENDATION IS THE BEST THAT WE COULD GET IN THE BEST THAT I CAN GET BASED UPON THE ADVICE THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS TONIGHT.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER
IF I COULD SLIGHTLY SPEAK FOR THE EFOC, THE THINGS THAT KATE AND MARY ARE
TRYING TO BRING UP HIS -- IF WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY MONEY FROM THE INCOME SOURCE, WHICH IS WHAT FREEZING RATES DOES, WE ARE NOT FEEDING BACK INTO IT. WE ARE ONLY REDUCING THE REVENUE. WE ARE NOT ADDING TO THE REVENUE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE FIGURE OUT BOTH SIDES OF IT. THEIR HOPE IS THAT -- THE COMMITTEES
HOPE IS THAT WE ATTRIBUTE SOME MONEY BACK INTO THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS IN SOME FASHION. I DO SUPPORT CUTTING THE TIERED RATES BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE Agenda Item Number 1
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RIGHT -- THE FREEZING OF THE RATES, I WOULD LIKE TO FREEZE THIS UNTIL WE ARE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR WHAT THINGS COST. I DO SUPPORT THOSE. BUT THERE ALSO HAS TO BE SOME WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ENTERPRISE FUND IS WHOLE. AND IF WE DO THAT FOR VERY LONG, IF WE GO FOR 3 OR FOUR MONTHS WITHOUT MAKING SURE THE
ENTERPRISE FUND IS FUNDED, LIKE IF WE ARE NOT GETTING MONEY BACK INTO IT IN SOME WAY, AND WE DO JEOPARDIZE LIKE HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THE 10 YEAR PLAN
FOR ALL THE BUDGET WE HAVE LEFT TO DO, WHICH WE HAVE NICELY SCHEDULED OUT AND I APPRECIATE THAT PUBLIC WORKS. SO WE ARE DOING A GREAT JOB BY GETTING ON TOP OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE. I
THINK THAT IS SUPER POSITIVE AND WHEN THIS TAKES SOMETHING AWAY, I DON'T WANT
TO NOT DO THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE CAN AND TO THE ENTERPRISE FUND IN LATER DAYS. THIS WILL BE JUST A ONE-TIME THING. THIS IS FIRST STEPS. WE ARE DOING A LOT OF FIRST STEPS. WE HAVE THE EFOC. WE ARE A NEW COUNCIL. WE WERE NOT HERE NINE YEARS AGO. EVEN IF ONE MEMBER WAS, WE STILL CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING BUT GO FORWARD. SO ALL WE CAN DO IS TRY TO A NEW -- AND WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN -- DOWN TO DIRECT TIMING. WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
DIRECT TIME OTHER THINGS, WE JUST HAVEN'T SORTED IT YET, SO WE ARE GETTING TO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ARE HOPING TO GET TOWARDS GOING FORWARD. BUT IT'S JUST
GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT TO GET THERE, AND I APPLAUD STAFF FOR DEALING WITH QUITE A BIG HIT TO ITS POCKET SUDDENLY. AND IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND COMING RIGHT IS GENERALLY DIFFICULT. THE SOONER WE CAN DO IT, THE BETTER. BUT I
DO HOPE THAT WE DO ADDRESS SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES QUITE SOON BECAUSE THIS IS JUST ONE ANGLE OF IT.
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COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON
YEAH, I WANTED TO WEIGH IN. IT IS A BIT FRUSTRATING BECAUSE AS ONE
COUNCILMEMBER ALREADY SAID THE PUBLIC IS AWARE WE HAD A CLOSED SESSION ON THIS AND IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE NOT HEARING ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE CERTAINLY DO OUR HOMEWORK AND WE'VE READ THE GRAND JURY REPORT. WE HAVE READ ALL THE LETTERS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN BY EMAIL. BUT I THINK, AT LEAST BEGIN
FOR MYSELF, WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE A STEP-BY-STEP APPROACH JUST BECAUSE WE
HAVE ALL THIS FEEDBACK WE CANNOT IMPLEMENT EVERYTHING AT ONCE, AND WITH THE MOVE TONIGHT WE ARE TRYING TO HOLD THINGS SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A STEP-BYSTEP APPROACH. I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR A YEAR, BUT ONCE WE GET TO THE NEXT STEP, WE MIGHT COURSE CORRECT AND MAYBE IT IS FOR YEAR. MAYBE WE ARE NOT HOLDING WATER RATE. BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WE ARE TAKING A PAUSE AND AT THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO. WE ARE MAKING SOME MOVES BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE THE TIERED RATES. AGAIN, I'VE SAID EVEN THOUGH I VOTED FOR, I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS FLAWED. SO AS WE LEARN INFORMATION WE COURSE CORRECT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO OVER TIME. SO I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS
TONIGHT AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE FEEDBACK THAT I KNOW WE HAVE
RECOMMENDATIONS NOW COMING FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS AND WE ARE LISTENING TO THOSE. RECOMMENDATIONS STILL, WE NEED TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL BE VOTING ON TONIGHT.
THANK YOU. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOSS OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS COMING UP,
BUT I'M ALSO GOING TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.
I WILL MOVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
SECOND .
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN AND -- I'M SORRY.
SO MOVED BY -- DID YOU SECOND? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN AND
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER TO SUSPEND THE TIERED WATER RATES EFFECTIVE JULY 1st UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THE NEW WATER RATE STUDY CAN BE
COMPLETED AND REQUEST VERIFICATION FOLLOWING THE FIRST BILLING CYCLE AND
THE NEW RATE STUDY STRUCTURE THAT ALL WATER COUNTS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED
AND UPDATED TO REMOVE -- ALL CUSTOMERS ARE BILLED -- IN ADDITION TO THE MONTHLY SERVICE CHARGE.
[ ROLL CALL ] THE MOTION PASSES 4-1.
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MOVING ON. DOES ANYONE NEED A BREAK BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 11.CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST FOR DIRECTION TO STAFF TO
PREPARE ZONING CODE/MAP AMENDMENTS AND/OR RETURN WITH OPTIONS TO ALLOW
COMMERCIAL OUTDOOR BARBECUE (BBQ) OPERATIONS WITH PERMITS IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS OR ON SPECIFIC PARCELS.
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I WILL KICK THIS OFF AND JANE IS AVAILABLE FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS AS WELL. SO
AS THE COUNCIL IS AWARE, THE CITY PREVIOUSLY COMMENCED ENFORCEMENT ACTION
AGAINST -- BARBECUE BECAUSE THE CURRENT USE IS NOT ALLOWED BY THE CURRENT ZONING CODE. CITY STAFF SUBSEQUENTLY MET WITH THE BUSINESS OWNER AND AS HAS
HAPPENED SOMEWHAT FREQUENTLY IN CITIES AGREED TO SUSPEND ENFORCEMENT
WHILE PROGRESS IS BEING MADE IN GOOD FAITH TO RESOLVING THE ISSUE ON BOTH SIDES. THE -- COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER REQUESTED
THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE. TO CHANGE THE ZONING CODE SO THAT THIS BUSINESS WOULD BECOME AN ALLOWED USE OR CONDITIONAL ALLOWED USE. BY WAY OF
BACKGROUND, THIS TYPE OF OUTDOOR BARBECUE USE IS CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED
USE IN ALL THE CITIES COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS ACCEPT THIS PARTICULAR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. SO AT A HIGH LEVEL THERE ARE TWO WAYS THE CITY COULD ADDRESS THIS.
ONE IS THEY COULD ALLOW THESE TYPE OF USES AS A CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED USE IN THIS DISTRICT AS A WHOLE. ALTERNATIVELY THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY COULD BE
REZONED IN SOME WAY TO ALLOW THIS USE ON ONLY THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY
EITHER AS A PERMITTED USE, WHICH WOULD BE UNIQUE FOR THE CITY OR MORE
COMMONLY AS A CONDITIONAL PERMITTED USE, IN WHICH CASE THE PROCESS TWO MEN
THE CODE AND FOR THE BUSINESS TO APPLY FOR A CUP COULD HAPPEN SIMULTANEOUSLY. A CONDITION OF USE PERMIT IF APPROVED BY THE CITY COULD INCLUDE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. SO THIS ITEM IS BEFORE THE COUNCIL TONIGHT TO
EITHER GIVE SPECIFIC DIRECTION TO STAFF ON PREPARING AN ORDINANCE NOW OR TO
GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A FULLER ANALYSIS OF THE OPTIONS BASED ON PAST FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL . STAFF DID NOT DO THAT HERE PRIOR TO
GETTING FULL AUTHORITY FROM THE COUNCIL TO SPEND TIME DIGGING INTO THOSE OPTIONS AND WHAT THEY MIGHT MEAN. AT A HIGHER LEVEL YOU EXPECT AN
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND CITYWIDE OR A ZONE WIDE RATHER THAN A PARCEL SPECIFIC AMENDMENT. OTHER IMPACTS MIGHT BE BIGGER. ON THE OTHER HAND, AS A GENERAL PLANNING MATTER WE DON'T LIKE TO REZONED ONE PARCEL AT A TIME. THAT MAY BEEN DESIGNATED FOR A VERY SPECIFIC REASON. WITHOUT I WILL PAUSE AND I KNOW JANE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN.
THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT AND I'M TRYING TO DO HOMEWORK AHEAD OF TIME. I READ THE STAFF REPORT AND SENT QUESTIONS TO MARY. I WANT TO KNOW BOTH OF
THE OPTIONS I THINK ARE GREAT BECAUSE MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS ABOUT PUBLIC
HEALTH, AND I SAID TO EVALUATE BOTH OF THE OPTIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT, WHAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND SHE SAID IT WOULD BE THREE HOURS.
THAT IS CORRECT. MY ROLE WOULD JUST BE HELPING TO REVIEW WHAT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW WOULD BE NECESSARY AND REVIEWING DRAFT ORDINANCES.
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WOULD BE DOING MOST OF THE WORK AND THE ANALYSIS.
AND THEN I WANTED TO KNOW THE OPTIONS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IT
SOUNDED LIKE MARY COULD NOT PONTIFICATE ON THAT UNTIL YOU DO THE ANALYSIS IF WE GIVE YOU THREE HOURS. IS THAT RIGHT?
I THINK IT'S MORE IF YOU GIVE MARY -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PUT IN THERE THE STAFF
TIME FOR PLANNING IF YOU GIVE AUTHORIZE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO SPEND
THE TIME TO DO IT, THEY WILL BE DOING MORE OF THAT ANALYSIS OF THE PROS AND CONS OF BOTH OPTIONS.
AND MY LAST ONE IF WE GO WITH BOTH OF THEM, THEN WHATEVER OPTION YOU BRING
BACK WE WILL BE ABLE TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE BECAUSE FOR ME THAT'S MY PRIMARY CONCERN.
YES. YES AND JUST TO CLARIFY BOTH OPTIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF
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ALSO A CUP COMES THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND POTENTIALLY THE Agenda Item Number 1
COUNCIL WILL REVIEW INDIVIDUAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
THANKS.
ARE WE HAVING TECHNICAL PROBLEMS? OKAY. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THE SCREEN TURNS BLUE. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AN ESTIMATE OF THE
PLANNING DEPARTMENT HOURLY -- HOW MANY HOURS THEY THINK THIS WOULD TAKE FOR THEM TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH OPTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE ESTIMATE WHENEVER WE HAVE TO BRING IN ITEM
THAT INCLUDES RESEARCH AND PREPARATION OF STAFF REPORT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, IT WILL BE ABOUT 20 HOURS OF STAFF TIME.
SO DEPENDS ON HOW YOU STRUCTURE THIS IF YOU WANT US TO JUST BRING BACK OPTIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE LESS EXPENSIVE. IF YOU WANTED US TO
PREPARE SOMETHING AND TAKE IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD BE THE FULL 20 HOURS.
ONE ESTIMATE FOR JUST BRINGING BACK OPTIONS?
PROBABLY 12 TO 16 .
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER .
JUST REMIND ME ABOUT THE PROCESS HERE FOR A TEMPORARY REPRIEVE OR IS THIS PERMITTING LIKE PERMANENT?
SO THE OPTIONS BEFORE YOU WOULD BE PERMANENT CHANGES TO THE ZONING CODE, AND IF THE USE PERMIT IS ISSUED THAT'S PERMANENT TO CONTINUE THAT USE.
OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON
SINCE I'M NOT THERE TONIGHT, I WONDER IF THE CITY HAS ANY UPDATES ON THIS
BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF RUMORS OUT THERE ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA RELATED TO THE BUSINESS, AND I'M NOT SURE THE BUSINESS IS REPRESENTED TONIGHT. I'M JUST CURIOUS. I DON'T WANT TO AUTHORIZE A LARGE NUMBER OF STAFF HOURS TO TRY TO
COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS AND MITIGATION FOR THE BUSINESS THAT WAS BEFORE US
WEEKS AGO WITH A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE SAYING HOW THEY LOVE IT HERE AND THEY WANT TO STAY HERE AND SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE GOVERNMENT MOVES SLOWER. SO
HERE WE ARE NOW BRINGING BACK A STAFF ITEM AND I DON'T WANT TO DO IT IN A SILO
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT AND SOMETHING COMES OUT IN TWO DAYS THAT SHOW SUPER CLUELESS. ANYWAYS AS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND I
BROUGHT BACK MAYBE WE CAN HEAR FROM MARY AND UPDATE ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY WITH THIS BUSINESS. ARE THEY WANTING TO STAY IN SEBASTOPOL? ARE THEY WANTING US TO LOOK AT ZONING OPTIONS FOR THIS PROPERTY? WHERE WE AT WITH THINGS? BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THINGS APPROPRIATELY.MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT LOCATIONS . THEY BEEN SEARCHING CERTAIN LOCATIONS. THEY HAVE NOT FOUND A SUITABLE LOCATION IS MY UNDERSTANDING. I'VE NOT GONE ANY FURTHER THAN THAT.
WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION,
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY BEEN TRYING TO FIND ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS THAT WORK FOR THEM BUT I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING BEYOND THAT.
OKAY. WE CAN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE DISCUSSION OF THE DIRECTION FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATION. WE WILL DO CHAMBERS FIRST AND THEN GO TO ZOOM. TO WANT TO GO AHEAD.
HERE BEFORE YOU NOT EXPLICITLY'S TAKING ON BEHALF OF THE BUSINESS AS THEY
HAVE REPRESENTATIVES ON ZOOM WHO WILL BE JOINING AND SPEAKING MORE
EXPLICITLY, BUT I WILL SAY YOU HAVE DRAGGED THE CART AND AS A CITY STAFF
TRYING TO ALLOCATE TIME AND DESIGNATING THE BUSINESS AS SUCH IS GOING TO HINDER THEIR ABILITY TO GET THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED TO FUNCTION. THEY ARE
LOOKING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN ORDER TO OPERATE THE BUSINESS TO SAVE THE CAPITAL THEY NEED TO MOVE OUTSIDE THE CITY. YOUR DECISIONS AND
ACTIONS HAVE MADE IT UNTENABLE FOR THEM TO STAY IN THIS LOCATION, AND THE
STAFF TIME IS AN ISSUE, PERHAPS WE ALLOCATE YOUR PRIORITIES AND THINK CLEARLY
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OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TIME IN YOUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR HAS TIME
TO TELL THEM THEY ARE NOT CAN APPROVE THE PERMITS, BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO THINK HOW PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR WORK TIME AND WORKPLACE OPPORTUNITIES.
THIS BUSINESS HAS BROUGHT IN A TON OF TOURISM TO THIS AREA AS A
REPRESENTATIVE AND FIFTH DISTRICT APPOINTEE TO THE SONOMA COUNTY TOURISM BOARD I'VE SEEN THE INCREASE THIS BUSINESS HAS BROADENED TO SEBASTOPOL. I CAN
SAY YOU ARE DRAGGING KEELS ON BEING SUPPORTIVE OF A BUSINESS IN THE AREA AND
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THEY HAVE TO LOOK OUTSIDE OF YOUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU
ALLOWED FOR OUTSIDE INFLUENCES FROM FOLKS WHO PREVIOUSLY SAT ON YOUR DAIS
TO CONDITIONALLY CHANGE YOUR OPINION ON HOW YOU LOOK AT YOU SUPPORT YOUR
SMALL BUSINESSES, AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE YOU HAVE MISSTEP TO AND WHERE
YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COURSE CORRECT AND LET THEM OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS AT THE HYATT POTENTIAL TO MAXIMIZE THEIR CAPSULE. THEY ARE GOING LEADER CITY. THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO STAY IF THEY WILL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE CRITICAL CRITICISM AND BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. OLIVER, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS BUSINESS STARTED COMPLETELY LEGALLY IN AN AREA WHICH THEY ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO DO WHAT THEY ARE DOING. GIVEN THE CITY HAS
TO SPEND ALL THIS TIME AND MONEY, MAYBE THEY SHOULD SPLIT THE COST WITH THE
BUSINESS SO THEY CAN COME TOGETHER RESPONSIBLY AND FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION TO THIS. IT SEEMS TO BE THAT THEY'VE DONE INCREDIBLY WELL PUBLICIZING THEMSELVES ON LOCAL TV CHANNELS. I'M NOT QUITE SURE THEY BEEN PLAYING THE GAME VERY WELL IN TERMS OF WORKING CLOSELY WITH CITY. THE CITY IS DRAGGING ITS FEET AS A
REACTIVE -- IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S A REACTION TO BUSINESS THAT NEVER SHOULD'VE BEEN OPERATING IN THE LOCATION IT'S IN CURRENTLY. AND THEN THERE'S A HUGE ISSUE
WITH THE LOCAL NEIGHBORS WHO DON'T WANT HAVE SMOKE COMING THROUGH THE WINDOWS EVERY MORNING. SO THIS IS A MESS. I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE TO GO BUT,
BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS THE BUSINESS IN GOOD FAITH SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTING MONEY TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY? WE ARE HAVING TECHNICAL ISSUES HERE INSIDE, SO
MEMBERS ON ZOOM WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE ZOOM BACK UP ON OUR SCREEN AND HEAR. THANK YOU. I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS.
I AM DOUG. IN THIS CASE REZONING PROPOSAL IS A RED HERRING. THE CURRENT ZONING IS NOT THE PROBLEM. THE RESTAURANT IS NOT THE PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS THE
IMPACT OF THE SMOKE FROM THE RESTAURANT SMOKERS ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. NO MATTER THE ZONING UNTIL THE SMOKE IS EFFECTIVELY MITIGATED, THIS ISSUE WILL NOT BE RESOLVED. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. CAN YOU MEET YOURSELF, PLEASE. BUT CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I AM ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE BARBECUE. I WANTED TO FILL YOU IN A MOMENT BEEN DOING SO FAR. FIRST TO BACKCHECK. ALL THESE THINGS TAKE TIME. THERE WAS A
PUBLIC COMMENT MEETING WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THESE COMMENTS AND IF WE HAD
KNOWN ABOUT THESE CONCERNS, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS A MOST YEAR AGO, WE COULD USE THIS TIME TO FIND A SOLUTION. WE ARE CURRENTLY SPEAKING TO SOME
ENGINEERS INTO WHAT DIFFERENT KIND OF FILTRATION SYSTEMS THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS. SOME OF THESE THINGS COST AS MUCH AS $100,000 AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY. WE ARE GETTING SUPPORT AND PEOPLE WANTING TO HELP. WE ARE PRETTY CONFIDENT WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SMOKE RELATIVELY SOON. AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY -- IT DOESN'T MEAN WE
ARE GIVING UP ON SEBASTOPOL BE GIVEN THE TIME WE HAVE WE HAVE TO EXPLORE ALL OF SONOMA COUNTY. WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 10 PROPERTIES AND SEEING WHAT'S FEASIBLE FOR US. AS FAR AS CITY STAFF MEMBERS I'VE EMAILED THE
DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR THREE OR FOUR TIMES IN LAST TWO MONTHS AND HE DOESN'T RESPOND WHEN I CALL. HE DOES NOT CALL BACK. WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CITY BUT WE GET NO RESPONSE. THE ONLY PERSON WE'VE HAD LUCK WITH IS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR HIM COMMUNICATING WITH US.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK WE ARE TRYING. KEEP IN MIND, WE ARE TRYING TO RUN A BUSINESS THAT SAME TIME. WE HAVE Agenda Item Number 1
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FAMILIES AND HOMES AND ALL THESE THINGS TAKE TIME I JUST WANT TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR. WE AREN'T SITTING AROUND.
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THAT IS TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. BACK INTO CHAMBERS.
HELLO. I AM LINDA AND SOME OF YOU KNOW ME AS THE FORMER SENIOR CENTER DIRECTOR. BEFORE THAT I WAS THE DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION.
AND IN THE 1990S WE GOT STARTED PREVENTING SMOKING IN THE WORKPLACE AND IT
MOVED ON AND YOU HAVE ALL SEEN A NORM CHANGE THAT SMOKING IS NO LONGER ALLOWED, AND, WHY DO WE DO THAT? WE DID THAT BECAUSE OF PARTICULATE MATTER. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO ABOUT ZONING -- IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT THIS IS AFFECTING BUSINESS, BUT THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS PARTICULATE MATTER. IT CAUSES
HEALTH PROBLEMS, IT CAUSES PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEMS AND IT'S NOT JUST
SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SAY WE WILL GIVE THEM A TEMPORARY PASS BECAUSE
EVERY DAY THAT THE NEIGHBORS OF THAT BARBECUE ARE GETTING SMOKE IN THEIR LUNGS, IT WILL LAST FOR A LIFETIME. I HAVE SEEN AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE LUNG ASSOCIATION MANY PEOPLE COME TO ME AND SAY I NEVER SMOKED. HOW COME I AM DYING OF LUNG CANCER? IT'S BECAUSE OF PARTICULATE MATTER. SO WHATEVER YOU
ARE THINKING ABOUT LET'S DO A TEMPORARY ZONING OR WHATEVER, IT DOESN'T MATTER. WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE WITH SECONDHAND SMOKE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.
THANK YOU. IT SOUNDS FROM THE THIN& COMMENTS THAT THEY ARE WORKING AND IT
SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE WORKING TO MOVE THE BUSINESS OUT OF ITS CURRENT LOCATION. IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME, ONCE AGAIN, IN CONCERT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON, WHETHER OR NOT THE BUSINESS IS GOING TO STAY IN SEBASTOPOL. SO AS THE
CITY HAS VERY LIMITED RESOURCES, AND MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO PUT A SLIGHT
PAUSE ON THINGS BEFORE EXPANDING THE CITY'S LIMITED RESOURCES ON A REZONING
MEASURE THAT ALSO COULD RESULT IN SOME SORT OF LAWSUIT BECAUSE AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER JUST SAID, PARTICULATE MATTER IS LINKED TO LUNG CANCER. SO IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE ONCE AGAIN IN A BIT OF ILLEGAL .. AND IF THE BUSINESS MOVES
BECAUSE THEY FIND A PLACE ZONED FOR SMOKERS THE CITY WILL SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT OF USE ANYMORE. THANK YOU.
I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS.
I AM KIM. I LIVE CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY UNDER QUESTION. I WANTED TO THANK
COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER FOR MEETING WITH PEOPLE FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AS CITY COUNCIL KNOWS, RECENTLY WE
DELIVERED A LETTER TO YOU ALL EXPRESSING OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE WOOD FIRE SMOKE THAT WE ARE SMELLING IN HER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS SIGNED BY 40 INDIVIDUALS, MOST OF WHOM LIVE VERY NEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I KNOCKED ON THEIR DOORS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM. SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE BUSINESS. WE FULLY SUPPORT THE BARBECUE. WE LIKE IT -- BUT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE WITH THE SMOKE. WE CAN ENJOY THE RESTAURANT BUT THE SMOKE IS A REAL ISSUE FOR US. AND I THINK SOMEWHERE IN THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION OUR HEALTH LEFT THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION. THERE WAS A FIRE
DEPARTMENT -- A FIRE CHIEF REPORT THAT USED DATA OF AIR QUALITY DATA THAT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN.. OUR DATA [ INAUDIBLE ] VERY CLOSE TO THE CITY WHERE
WE LIVE AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS ONE WEEK -- THIS IS THREE DAYS AND YOU CAN SEE A HIGH IT GOES. THIS IS -- COULD I STOP MY TIME. I WOULD LIKE MY TIME STOPPED.
LET EVERYBODY HAVE THEIR SAY. CAN YOU PLEASE RESPECT THAT EVERYBODY CAN SPEAK. SO COULD WE GIVE HER A MINUTE TO FINISH WHATEVER IT WAS? SO WHEN IT'S IN OPERATION IT IMPACTS US. WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEALTH
RISKS, AND THE TALL LINES ARE THE CLOSE BY MONITOR AND THE GREEN LINE IS THE MONITOR THAT WAS USED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE DATA. SO TAKING HEALTH OFF THE TABLE WAS BASED ON INACCURATE DATA. IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE AIR QUALITY DATA CAN'T USE IT IN THE VICINITY WHERE IT'S OPERATING.
THAT IS TWO MINUTES.
OKAY.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL GO TO ZOOM. KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.
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PART OF ME IS PLEASED AT OUR INSURANCE COMPANY HAS AN AGENDA ITEM ON CONSENT TONIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING BACK TO. THAT'S MY QUESTION. IF
WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ALLOW OUR CITY POLICE OFFICERS TO TASE MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC AND THEN ALLOW LITIGATION AGAINST OUR CITY WHERE OUR ACTUAL COSTS IN THE CITY IS ONLY $10,000 BUT MULTIPLE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS GO OUT AS A RESULT OF THAT LITIGATION THAT OUR INSURANCE COVERS,
GREAT, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE MUCH FINANCIAL INTEREST IN ACTUALLY HAVING OVERSIGHT OF THE POLICE. DO WE HAVE ANY ACTUAL OVERSIGHT HERE? DO WE CARE WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING? DO WE CARE FOR GROUP OF CITIZENS SUES US BECAUSE OUR INSURANCE WILL COVER IT AND WE WILL PAY A $10,000 DEDUCTIBLE, OR, ARE WE
GETTING GET TO A PLACE WHERE THE PERSON WHO IS ACTUALLY LIABLE IS THE PERSON THAT DID THE HARM. ARE WE GOING TO GET A PLACE -- GET TO A PLACE WITH A POLICE
OFFICER THAT COMMITTED THE ASSAULT IS LIABLE FINANCIALLY TO A BUSINESS THAT IS PRODUCING PARTICULATE MATTER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LIABILITY? I DON'T KNOW
THE ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT IT SURE SEEMS LIKE THE OF THAT THE CITY IS JUST TO
ALLOW OUR INSURANCE PROVIDER TO COVER THE COSTS AND AS LONG AS WE CAN AFFORD THE $10,000 DEDUCTIBLE, NO HARM NO FOUL. AM I RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW.
BECAUSE WE DON'T TALK ABOUT LITIGATION. WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS YEAR
FINANCIAL COSTS THAT COMES AT THE EXPENSE OF ABUSE THAT HAPPENS TO OUR CITIZENS. AND THAT IS A SHAME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
I LIVE -- MY NIECE LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE OF THE RESTAURANT. I
HEARD ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON I COULD NOT BELIEVE THE ABUNDANCE OF SMOKE PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT. I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THIS AT ALL. I'VE TALKED TO NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES AND NEIGHBORS ON THE OTHER SIDE. NOBODY KNOCKED ON MY DOOR. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE PARTICULATE MATTER -- THE HIGHER LEVELS HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR 10 YEARS NOT JUST SINCE THEY'VE MOVED THERE. I DO SMELL SMOKE BUT IT SMELLS GOOD. I'VE NEVER HAD TO CLOSE MY WINDOWS. MY CHILDREN
HAVE NEVER HAD BREATHING PROBLEMS AND EITHER HAVE MY NEIGHBORS OR THEIR CHILDREN. I THINK IT IS A SHAME. MY FAMILY'S BUSINESS WAS SUCCESSFUL THERE MY
ENTIRE CHILDHOOD AND THIS IS THE FIRST BUSINESS SINCE THEN THAT'S BEEN
SUCCESSFUL AND IT'S REALLY SAD THAT OUR CITY COULDN'T HAVE DONE SOMETHING SOONER TO HELP KEEP THIS BUSINESS IN TOWN. IT WILL GO AND WE WILL LOSE IT AND THAT IS SAD. I WALK THERE A LOT. MY NOTES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE. BUT I THINK
YOU'RE NOT HEARING ABOUT A BIGGER GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM THIS EXACT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE NOT EXPERIENCING WHAT THESE OTHER 40 SIGNATURES ARE BECAUSE WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? I WELCOME BACK. LAURA.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE TESTING CAME FROM THE BAY AREA QUALITY
MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THAT THEY DECIDED THAT IT WAS NOT DANGEROUS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME INVOLVED. IT'S A QUESTION OF WHAT IS THE NEIGHBORS RESPONSE TO THAT FINDING? I SHOULD ALSO SAY I LIVE -- I WORK ACROSS THE STREET AND I AM OFTEN THERE IN THE EXTREME EARLY MORNING HOURS. I DON'T NOTICE IT, BUT MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I'M NOT THE RIGHT WIND DIRECTION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS? PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON.
THANKS. I DIDN'T WANT TO GET MISSED WHEN WE GOT BACK TO QUESTIONS. I BROUGHT
THIS FORWARD WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER BECAUSE HE WANTED TO FIND A PATH TO SUPPORT A LOCAL BUSINESS. WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND A&M. LIKE I SAID, I AM NOT COMFORTABLE INVESTING A TON OF HOURS, AND TO ONE OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS WE HAVE DONE SOMETHING. THEY ARE STILL OPERATING. THEY ARE STILL IN BUSINESS. WE HAVE NOT FIND THEM. I DON'T THINK SEBASTOPOL HAS DONE NOTHING. SO HAVE TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD. AND WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE. I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM. I Agenda Item Number 1
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THINK WE GOT A LETTER FROM THE PUBLIC THAT SAID SOME KIND OF FILTER COULD BE PURCHASED FOR $5000. I UNDERSTAND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SAID THEY'D OFFER TO PAY FOR GO FUND ME. SPEAKING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I LOVE BARBECUE. I EAT THERE. PEOPLE THAT I KNOW IT THERE AND WE WOULD LOVE THEM TO STAY IN SEBASTOPOL. IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE HEARD FROM ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY ARE GONE. IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING PLACE TO BE. I THINK AS A
COUNCILMEMBER BECAUSE THE WAY WE ARE SET UP IS WE CANNOT SPEAK TO AN ISSUE
FROM JUST A STANDARD PUBLIC COMMENT UNTIL IT IS ON THE AGENDA AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT'S BEEN AGENDIZE'S. I THINK THE CITY HAS DONE A LOT. I WOULD LIKE A&M
TO SUCCEED AND I LOVE HOW MUCH THEY GIVE TO SCHOOLS AND THEY ARE FROM SEBASTOPOL. I WANT TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESS. I FEEL LIKE THE NEXT STEP IS FOR
US TO PICK FROM OUR AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT AND INVEST ADDITIONAL TIME WITHOUT
GOING CRAZY AND THEN HEAR BACK FROM A&M ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND
WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO MITIGATE WHAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING IS BOTHERING THEM. AND I'VE WALKED BY THE SMOKERS IN THE MORNING THAT ARE SMOKING ALL NIGHT. IF I LIVED NEXT DOOR, I MIGHT NOT BE SUPER HAPPY. SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN. THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND WE ARE LISTENING AND WE ARE RESPONDING. I WANT TO MAKE THAT REALLY CLEAR.
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COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN .
I AGREE. THANKS FOR GETTING THIS ON THE AGENDA. I DO -- WITH PUBLIC HEALTH IN
MIND I WANT TO FIND A WAY TO HELP THIS BUSINESS SUCCEED AND WHAT STAFF HAS
LAID OUT AND NOW I AM MORE CLEAR ABOUT THE HOURS IT WILL TAKE FOR ALEX TO
EVALUATE THE OPTIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS TIME, I'M
COMFORTABLE WITH THE AMOUNT OF HOURS THAT THEY PUT FORWARD, SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER .
I LOOK AT PROBLEMS DIFFERENTLY THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE. BUT I WANT A WIN-WIN SITUATION. I FEEL LIKE SEBASTOPOL CAN RALLY AROUND THE BUSINESS AND PROTECT
RESIDENTS THAT NEED -- THAT DON'T NEED SMOKE IN THEIR BACKYARD AND IT'S
DANGEROUS TO GUYS AND I RECOGNIZE THAT AND I HEAR THAT AND I DON'T KNOW
THAT WE NEED A ZONING CHANGE TO SOLVE THAT, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED AS A
COMMUNITY TO HELP THIS BUSINESS THAT IS YOUNG AND TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT HOW TO GET A NEW FILTRATION SYSTEM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING I AM ALL IN ON. I
LOVE THE COMPANY, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE THIS OTHER ISSUE THAT I THINK SEVERAL THINGS ARE BEING CONFLATED. THEY HAVE THE ISSUE WHERE THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL
AND THEY ARE GROWING AND THEY'VE OUTGROWN THAT EXACT
, SO THEY DO NEED A DIFFERENT
ANYWAY. I THINK MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OWNERS, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER SPACE WOULD BENEFIT THEM AND I SUPPORT THEM AND WHATEVER BENEFITS THEM.
ONE OF THESE WAYS IS JUST IMMEDIATELY TRYING TO FIX THE AMOUNT OF SMOKE
THAT'S COMING OUT BECAUSE THEN THEY CAN FOCUS ON BEING A BUSINESS AND
SEBASTOPOL -- THEY CAN RALLY AND GET A SMOKE SITUATION FIGURED OUT AND I THINK WE ARE OKAY FOR A BIT.
IT'S OKAY WITH ME.
I'M QUITE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT A&M IS WANTING TO DO BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE
WOULD BE MAKING AN EFFORT TO TRY AND SUPPORT KEEPING THEM, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'VE OUTGROWN THE SPACE AND PLANNING TO LEAVE ANYWAY. SO -- PLEASE LET ME SPEAK. I AM SPEAKING. I SUPPORT A&M BARBECUE AND I WANT TO SEE THEM SUCCEED AND I WANT NEIGHBORS TO NOT BE SMOKED OUT. SO HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT I'M NOT SURE YET. EXCUSE ME. I AM WILLING -- I THINK WE NEED MORE INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY FROM THE BUSINESS AND WHAT HE PLANS TO DO. IT DOESN'T
MAKE SENSE TO ME TO GO FORWARD WITH APPROVING -- STARTING REZONING WITHOUT KNOWING IF IT'S EVEN NEEDED. IT'S WHERE THE CITY IS PUTTING AN EFFORT TO ONE
BUSINESS, REZONING FOR ONE BUSINESS THAT IS GOING TO BE THERE, AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT THE BUSINESS NEEDS TIME TO OPERATE AND FIGURE OUT A PLACE. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FIND THE PLACE OVERNIGHT, AND WHERE THEY ARE IS OKAY, BUT REZONING MAY TAKE SIX MONTHS ANYWAYS OR THREE MONTHS OF WORK.
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ANOTHER LONG PROCESS, AND THAT IS PERMANENT. REZONING IS NOW PERMANENT AND IT CHANGES THAT BUILDING IN PERPETUITY. WHEN THAT BUSINESS MAY NOT EVEN STAY
THERE AND I THINK THE IMMEDIATE REAL CONCERN AS A COMMUNITY IS TO HELP THE BUSINESS OUT AND SOLVE THE SMOKING PROBLEM FIRST. THAT IS AN INVESTMENT THEY CAN TAKE WITH THEM WHEREVER THEY GO.
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SO WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND?
I'M NOT SUPPORTING A ZONING CHANGE, BUT I WANT TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESS IN STAYING THERE AND FIXING THE SMOKE ISSUE, WHICH IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WAS NOT THAT AREA IS NOT ZONED FOR A BARBECUE, AND IF YOU DO NOTHING, THEY CANNOT BE THERE.
THEY CAN'T BE THERE, BUT I THINK BECAUSE THE CONDITIONAL PERMIT IS NOT A THING, IS THAT CORRECT?
A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT CAN ONLY BE ISSUED FOR USE THAT IS CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED. SORT TEMPORARY USE PERMIT IS SOMETHING YOU GET IN LIEU OF GETTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THAT REQUIRES GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND
A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT IS THE SAME THING AS A CUP, BUT IT'S ISSUED BY STAFF AND FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. YOU CAN ONLY BE ISSUED IF THE USE IS CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE. THIS PARTICULAR USE IS NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE AT THIS LOCATION. SORT TEMPORARY USE PERMIT CANNOT BE ISSUED.
PLEASE. YOU HAVE HAD YOUR TURN TO SPEAK. YOU ARE DISRUPTING THE MEETING AND I DON'T APPRECIATE IT AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PLEASE STOP. WE WILL TAKE A FIVEMINUTE BREAK, PLEASE. [ CITY COUNCIL IS TAKING A 5-MINUTE BREAK. CAPTIONER STANDING BY. ] ARE WE READY TO GO? WE WILL CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11 . COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON.
THANK YOU. THERE WAS TALK ONLINE ABOUT THE BROWN ACT. I DO NOT BELIEVE I
HEARD ANY BROWN ACT VIOLATIONS BUT I HEARD MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SLIGHTLY FROM MY ZOOM. MAYBE THEY CAN ADDRESS -- MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT IN THE ROOM. MY COMMENT BEFORE THE BREAK WAS THAT, FIRST OF ALL, THE
OWNER OF THE BUSINESS, WHO I THINK IS BEST POISED TO SPEAK FOR HIMSELF, HE HAS
HIS HAND UP, AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO ASK HIM TO RETURN TO MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT THE FUTURE IN SEBASTOPOL AND MAYBE WHAT HE'S WILLING TO DO. BUT I
REALLY BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO INVEST SOME TIME BECAUSE
POSSIBLY AS ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC POINTED OUT, I ALSO GREW UP WITH
THAT BEING A SUCCESSFUL CORNER AND DELI, AND THAT IS WHAT THIS BUSINESS
OPENED AS AS A DELI AND IF IT MOVES SOMEWHERE ELSE, MAYBE DISOWNING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO ALLOW CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS. I HEARD FROM THE ATTORNEYS
SAY THE BEGINNING THAT THIS WAS THE ONLY ZONE IN SEBASTOPOL THAT DIDN'T HAVE THAT ALLOWANCE. I'M A LITTLE UNCLEAR ABOUT WHAT HE SAID, BUT I'M WILLING TO
INVEST A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY EVEN IF THIS BUSINESS DOES OUTGROW THAT LOCATION
AND MOVE OVERALL SO WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE
SUCCESSFUL IN THE LOCATION AND POSSIBLY A&M MY CONTINUE TO OPERATE A DELI
THERE AND THEY'RE EXPANDING SO FAST THAT THEY CAN HAVE DUAL BUSINESSES, WHICH WE SEE FREQUENTLY. I WOULD BE ASKING IF MAYBE WE COULD WE HEAR FROM HIM TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
I THINK HE WAS ABLE TO SPEAK EARLIER, SO DO COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS OF HIM? OKAY. I'M WILLING TO DO THAT, IF THAT'S OKAY.
CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF. WE CAN HEAR YOU.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AGAIN. COUPLE OF THINGS. THE COMMENTS I
HEARD ABOUT -- MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WE SOME MEAT AND WHAT CLASSIFIES WHAT IS A DELI AND WHAT IS NOT. WE ARE NOT A DELI ANYMORE. AT THE END OF THE DAY. WE
COULD TALK ALL DAY ABOUT WHAT WE REALLY ARE, BUT WE WANT -- I COULD SAY WE ARE STILL A DELI. AS FAR AS ZONING, EVERYTHING HAPPENED SO FAST AND IT WASN'T
JUST ABOUT THE SMOKE AND AND THE ARGUMENT CAME THAT WE WERE NOT THE
CORRECT ZONING AND THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW WILL WE ALLOW TO OPEN THE FIRST PLACE. THERE WERE MISTAKES MADE BY ALL SIDES. WE WERE AWARDED
BUSINESS OF THE YEAR BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND WE WERE OPERATING WITH THOSE SMOKERS. EVERYBODY KNEW WHAT WE WERE DOING. THE REASON THE Agenda Item Number 1
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ZONING THING CAME UP IS IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO US BY THE CITY MANAGER. SHE SUGGESTED WE FILE THIS MOTION. THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE. THE SECOND REASON IS GIVEN ALL THAT'S GOING ON, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME WE DO OR DON'T HAVE.
EVEN IF WE FIX THE SMOKE ISSUE, THERE'S THE ARGUMENT IS THAT WE ARE NOT THE CORRECT STONE. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL ASPECTS OF HOW WE PROTECT OUR
BUSINESS AND IF THE REALITY IS WE CAN'T BE THERE BECAUSE OF ZONING, THEN WE
HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION AND WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF RESPONSE FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. LIKE I SAID, CARTER HAS BEEN THE ONLY ONE THAT IS HELPED US LOOK AT PROPERTIES. IT'S ALL BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE CAN STAY THERE BE FOR SOMEBODY SAYS YOU CAN BE HERE ANYMORE. SO WHAT WE ARE DOING
IS LOOKING AT PROPERTIES, SEEING IF SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT ZONING SEEING
IF WE CAN GET FILTRATION CAN WE STAY, WHAT I'M HEARING NOW IS EVEN IF WE GET SOMETHING TO FIX THE SMOKE, WE ARE STILL NOT IN THE RIGHT ZONING. FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WE ARE EXPLORING ALL AVENUES TO MAKE EVERYTHING RIGHT. WE WANT NEIGHBORS TO BE HAPPY. IF WE HAD KNOWN EARLIER THAT THIS WAS COULD BE AN ISSUE, WE WOULD HAVE IT SOLVED BY NOW. WE ARE FIGHTING FOR THE BUSINESS AND SHUTTING IT DOWN IS SOMETHING WE CANNOT SWALLOW. WE ARE ACTIVELY COMMUNICATING WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT RESPONDING.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE TO ANY OF YOU WITH EMAILED TO GET BACK TO US. WE ARE BUSY AND WORKING 12 TO 14 HOUR DAYS. WE ARE NOT HEARING BACK FROM MEMBERS OF THE CITY, HOW MUCH MORE CAN WE DO. DO SHOW UP AT YOUR OFFICES? WE WANT TO FIGURE THIS OUT. BUT CLEARLY THERE IS A LOT OF GRAY AREA IN TERMS OF -- THERE ARE ZONING ISSUES. WE ALSO NEED A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THE CITY OF WHAT WE
CAN AND CANNOT DO, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT AT THE EXPENSE OF LOSING THE BUSINESS GIVEN THAT WE'VE BEEN SMOKING SINCE WE OPENED. THAT'S THE MAIN QUESTION IS -- MISTAKES WERE MADE AMONGST DIFFERENT PEOPLE. MAYBE INCLUDING US. MAYBE WE
SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE RESEARCH, BUT THE CITY ULTIMATELY APPROVED US SMOKING IN THAT LOCATION. WE ARE HAPPY TO COLLABORATE AND FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. THERE IS A FINANCIAL STRAIN THAT COMES WITH THE SOLUTIONS. THE BEST THING
GOING FORWARD IS FOR US TO GET TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH A PLAN, BUT IT CAN'T HAPPEN AT THE EXPENSE OF US LOSING HER BUSINESS.
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THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.
I DON'T REALLY -- WHAT I WANT IS FOR BUSINESSES TO FEEL LIKE THEY ARE IN A STABLE
ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO OPERATE WHEN THINGS FEEL SHAKY AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT. EVEN THOUGH I THINK THE ORDER OF
OPERATIONS IS WE FIX THE SMOKE, I THINK THEY SHOULD FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IF THEY DO ASK THE SMOKE, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT ZONING THEN. IF THEY WANT TO STAY.
IF THEY MOVE, THEN THAT IS AN EXERCISE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH. I WOULD LIKE
THEM TO FEEL CONFIDENT THAT FIXING THE SMOKE LEADS TO THE ZONING THEY NEED TO STAY WOULD BE GREAT. BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED TO DO THE ZONING FIRST. I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
I WILL MOVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHAT THEY LAID OUT
WILL EDUCATE ALL OF US ABOUT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND DURING THE TIME THAT WILL TAKE IT'S LIKE A&M MAY DECIDE IT DOESN'T COST $55,000 FOR AN AIR CLEANER.
MAYBE IT'S CLOSER TO 33,000 AND MAYBE THEY WILL SET UP A GO FUND ME. MAYBE
OVER THE COURSE OF TIME WHILE THEY ARE DOING DUE DILIGENCE, WE CAN ARRIVE AT
A HAPPY MEDIUM WHERE WE PROTECT EVERYBODY'S PUBLIC HEALTH AND SUPPORTING DIVERSE BUSINESSES. I MOVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION BECAUSE STAFF RECOMMENDED TWO THINGS. I'M NOT
SURE WHICH ONE --
I UNDERSTOOD THE STAFF REPORT AS HAVING REQUESTING TIME TO DO THE ANALYSIS
AND THE TWO OPTIONS SET FORWARD, SO THAT'S WHY I SENT THE EMAIL TO MARY
ASKING HOW MUCH WOULD BE FOR ALEX'S TIME AND HOW MUCH IT WILL COST FOR PLANNING STAFF. FOR ME IT IS WORTH THREE HOURS OF HIS TIME IN 18 HOURS.
I WILL SECOND THAT.
CAN WE TAKE A ROLL CALL.
A CUP OR OTHER ENTITLEMENTS
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[ ROLL CALL ]
CAN I ASK QUESTION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VOTE? IS -- MUST THE BUSINESS MEET
CERTAIN STANDARDS -- WE CAN APPROVE THIS, BUT IN ORDER TO GO FORWARD WITH THE ACTUAL PROCESS, CAN WE MANDATE CERTAIN PERFORMANCE? THERE ARE -- THERE CAN BE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ON THAT PERMIT. REQUIRING WHATEVER THE COUNCIL MIGHT DECIDE. JUST SO I GET IT STRAIGHT.
FIRST TO CHANGE THE ZONING AND THEN THEY GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT? YES. WE CAN PROCESS THOSE SIMULTANEOUSLY. ZONING CHANGE GETS APPROVED AND AT THE SAME MEETING THE USE PERMIT GETS APPROVED.
THE USE PERMIT --
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SOMETIMES WE PUT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE ARE CONSIDER IT
ABOUT SMOKING COULD HAVE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RELATED TO THAT AND THEY OFTEN HAVE TIME FRAMES ABOUT WHEN THE CONDITION HAS TO BE SATISFIED.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE JUST LIKE -- YOUR TIME IS THINKING ABOUT IT.
STAFF WILL BRING BACK THE TWO OPTIONS FOR HOW THE ZONING CHANGE -- HOW THE
CODE COULD BE CHANGED WITH A DETAILED ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS OF
EACH OPTION COULD BE AND THAT THE COUNCIL LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS AND SAY --
MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OPTION OR THIS OPTION AND DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH EITHER ONE.
AND -- OKAY. YES.
[ ROLL CALL ] THE MOTION PASSES 4-1.
DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR INITIAL INVOICES FOR TESTING/MOLD REMOVAL/ETC. AND DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED COSTS/TIMELINE FOR LIBRARY REMEDIATION.
THIS IS TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO THE MOLD FOUND THAT THE LIBRARY AND TALK TO THE PHASE 1 REMEDIATION WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO THERE. I
WILL BRING UP SLIDES AND RUN THROUGH WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE ARE HEADED SO WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE IN THIS DISCUSSION. ONE MOMENT. SO ON JUNE 4th LIBRARY STAFF NOTICED SOME WARPING IN THE LIBRARY WALLPAPER ON THE
EXTERIOR WALLS AND THE CITY HAS LEASED IT TO THE LIBRARY SO THE EXTERIOR WALLS OF THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. STAFF PROACTIVELY CLOSED THE LIBRARY ON THE AFTERNOON OF JUNE 4th. LIBRARY STAFF THE NEXT DAY AFTER ALL THE PUBLIC WAS
NOT THERE AND STAFF WAS NOT THERE WENT INTO THE WALLS TO SEE IF THEY COULD DETERMINE WHAT WAS GOING ON. AT THAT POINT THEY WERE IN CONTACT WITH PUBLIC
WORKS AND WE HAD AN ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST GO OUT THERE AS WELL AND
THEY ADVISED THAT WE STOP MAKING HOLES IN THE WALLS BECAUSE WE MIGHT
POSSIBLY SPREAD ANY POTENTIAL MOLD INTO THE AREAS WHERE THEY HAD ORIGINALLY SEEN THE WALLPAPER WARPING. SO WHEN NO ONE WAS THERE WE TESTED
THE AIR IN THE AREAS SO THAT THE STAFF ROOM AND THE TEENAGE READING ROOM
WERE THE MATERIAL WAS REMOVED AND FOUND TO HAVE ELEVATED MOLD IN THOSE AREAS. THEY TESTED THE COMMON ROOM AS WELL AND THE OTHER STAFF AREAS AND THERE WERE NO ELEVATED READINGS IN ANY OF THOSE AREAS. SO THIS WAS FRIDAY.
THIS IS THE SPECIALIST AND WE SENT WHERE IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT THE MOLD IS BLACK MOLD. WE ASKED THEM TO CONTAIN IT AND WE DID NOT FIND ANY ELEVATED
MOLD WITHIN THE MAIN AREAS OF THE LIBRARY JUST THOSE TWO PLACES WHERE THE EXCAVATION HAPPENED INTO THE WALL. SO THEY CONTAINED THOSE, THEY PUT IN HEPA
FILTERS THROUGHOUT THE LIBRARY WHILE THEY WERE DOING THAT WORK AND BEGAN REMEDIATING THE WALLS. THEY WERE MOVES THE WALLPAPER WITHIN THOSE AREAS
AND FOUND THAT THE MOLD WAS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL UNDERNEATH THE WALLPAPER IN THESE AREAS. IT TOOK THEM FROM JUNE 5th THROUGH THE 16th . THEY WERE MOVED THE SHEET ROCK AND REMEDIATED THE AREA AND CLEANED THE FRAMING. WHAT THEY
FOUND IN THE TEAM READING ROOM IS AFTER THEY REMOVED ALL OF THE SHEET ROCK THERE WAS SOME STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO THE WEST WALL OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS JUST IN ONE LITTLE WALL. THIS IS JUST IN THE AREAS THEY'VE EXPOSED. WHILE THEY
WERE DOING THAT THEY DID MOISTURE TESTING IN THE OTHER AREAS IN THE LIBRARY
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WALLPAPER PEELING AROUND THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING SO THE INITIAL
ASSESSMENT IS THERE IS LIKELY ADDITIONAL MOLD AROUND THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING BEING HELD IN BY THE WALLPAPER. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AS A NEXT
STEP IS WE NEED TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY INVOICE THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US BUT
WE ALSO HAVE PRICING TO ISOLATE THE WALLS OF THE EXTERIOR BUILDING AND HAVE
THE STAFF MOVED THE BOX TO THE CENTER TO CONTAINMENT AROUND THOSE
EXTERIOR WALLS AND THEN PULL BACK THE WALLPAPER TO SEE HOW EXTENSIVE THE
MOLD IS BEHIND THE WALLPAPER AND PULLED THE SHEET ROCK OFF AND REMEDIATE THOSE WALL AREAS. THAT IS THE PRICING BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT. ONCE
WE HAVE THOSE EXPOSED AND YOU CAN SEE THE FRAMING BENEATH THE SHEET ROCK
WE CAN MAKE A BETTER ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGES TO THE BUILDING. AT THIS POINT WE ARE JUST GUESSING SO TRYING TO GET COST FOR WHAT FOUR PAIR WOULD LOOK LIKE IS A BIG ESTIMATE. I HAVE PRELIMINARY COSTS ON WHAT
WE THINK IT MIGHT BE TO RECONSTRUCT ASSUMING THE LEVEL OF DAMAGE THAT WE
SOUGHT IN THE READING ROOM BUT WILL HAVE CONTRACTORS COME IN WE HAVE A WALLS EXPOSED AND DO A BETTER BID FOR THE PROJECT. PHASE 1 WAS THE INITIAL
COST OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO DECONTAMINATE THE ROOMS THAT WERE EXPOSED AND THE PRICE WAS $47,000. THE LIBRARY HAS AGREED TO COST SHARE WITH US SO THE COST TO ASSIST 23,008 44. AND WE'VE RECEIVED TWO MORE PROPOSALS FOR
COMPANIES TO DO THE EXPOSURE OF THE EXTERIOR WALL AND CLEANUP MOLD WE FIND THERE. UP TO $175,000. AT THAT POINT THE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES WE ARE GETTING IS RECONSTRUCTION WOULD BE ON THE ORDER OF $200,000 TO DO STRUCTURAL REPAIR
AND PUT THE SHEET ROCK BACK AND THE INSULATION BACK AND PUT IT BACK TOGETHER. THIS IS THE PROJECTED TOTAL BUDGET AS WE KNOW RIGHT NOW. THIS IS VERY PRELIMINARY. WE NEED MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE CAN ASSESS THAT NUMBER. WE ARE PROPOSING TO TAKE IT FROM THE BUILDING RESERVE FUND, WHICH WE CURRENTLY HAVE A BALANCE OF $594,000.
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CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE TOTAL WAS?
398.
ABOUT $400,000. PHASE 3 IS A VERY PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE. IT WILL LIKELY CHANGE. SO
WE ARE REQUESTING OF COUNCIL TONIGHT IS APPROVING THE INVOICE WE HAVE FOR
THE ORIGINAL REMEDIATION AND STAFF AREA FOR CONTAINMENT AND CLEANUP AND
APPROVAL FOR THE SECOND PHASE TO EXPOSE THE REST OF THE EXTERIOR WALLS AND ASSESS THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE BEHIND THAT. AS MARY INDICATED EARLIER, WE'VE
BEEN WORKING WITH THE LIBRARY TO FIND THEM TEMPORARY LOCATIONS FOR FACILITIES AND CLASSES AND WE ARE STILL IN THAT PROCESS. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN .
THANK YOU. HONESTLY, THAT INFORMATION YOU SHARED WAS NOT WHAT I READ THE STAFF REPORT SO THAT IS ASTOUNDING. WHAT I SAID EARLIER IN REFERENCE TO THE
OTHER AGENDA ITEM THAT THEY WERE PRETTY MUCH TIED TOGETHER, THIS WHOLE REMEDIATION. WITH WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT ALREADY, I APPRECIATE THE LIBRARY CHIPPING IN. THAT IS NOT UNPRECEDENTED. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS. I SAT ON
THE LIBRARY COMMISSION AS AN APPOINTEE OF THE CITY AND I KNOW FOR SURE THAT
THE LIBRARY CHIPPED IN UNSUBSTANTIAL OTHER NECESSARY REPAIRS FOR OTHER SISTER CITIES. THE HVAC IN SANTA ROSA. YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THE FACT THAT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS. I SEE HEADS SHAKING. YOU CAN REFUTE THAT. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING OF THE 398 +100,000 THAT WE DID AND BEING ASKED TO REPAY OR TO
APPROVE IN HINDSIGHT THAT ALREADY BRINGS IT UP TO HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BUILDING THAT THE LIBRARY ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID 10 YEARS AGO IS NOT THE RIGHT SIZE FOR US. SO WHAT ARE WE REALLY DOING? I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE AT ALL. NOT WITH THE PRICE THAT'S BEING PUT FORTH NOW. I THINK THIS PROBABLY IS
SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A STRONG THINK ABOUT ABOUT WHETHER WE WILL APPROVE $500,000 FOR BUILDING WILL HELP TO GET FIXED WITH MOLD AND DRY ROT TO WHAT? TO BE IN A SUBSTANTIAL PLACE? IT DOESN'T MAKE MATHEMATICAL SENSE TO ME.
OTHER QUESTIONS?
IS THERE ANY INDICATION OF THE TIME LINE?
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THE NEXT PHASE OF REMEDIATION WILL TAKE ABOUT THREE WEEKS AND THEN WE
NEED TO HAVE CONTRACTORS GOING TO GET PRICING AND LOOK AT THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE.
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CONSTRUCTION -- LIKE -- CONSTRUCTION MAY NOT TAKE VERY LONG. THIS COULD BE A MONTH? IT COULD BE TWO MONTHS?
THE REMEDIATION PIECE WILL BE ONE MONTH AND THEN WE WILL BRING BACK PRICING TO DO RECONSTRUCTION.
AND THAT THINKING ABOUT PROCESS WILL TAKE THREE WEEKS? LIKE THAT IS A MONTH.
AND THEN WILL IT TAKE THREE WEEKS TO GET THE PERSON THAT MIGHT FIX -- THE CITY HAS OBLIGATIONS TO PUBLICLY BID CONTRACTS. DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS, I THINK IT'S 225. IT'S BELOW TO 25, WE CAN INFORMALLY PAY THAT BUT STILL INVOLVES A LITTLE FORMALITY. IF IT'S ABOVE THAT, WE HAVE TO DO A FORMAL BID. THAT INVOLVES PUBLISHING NOTICE, RECEIVING THE BED AND USUALLY HAVE THAT OPEN FOR 2 WEEKS TO RECEIVE BIDS. BIDS ARE THEN BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
SO THIS IS OVER 225,000?
WELL, JUST THE RECONSTRUCTION PIECE. THE INITIAL ASSESSMENTS AROUND 200,000.
WE HOPE WE WON'T HAVE TO DO THE FULL BID PROCESS. I'VE HAD CONTRACTORS LOOK
AT IT AND THINK ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD PROVIDE PRICING AND IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO TELL WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME STRUCTURAL DAMAGE THERE IS.
PEOPLE NEED TO COME BACK IN WHEN THE WALLS ARE EXPOSED AND I THINK WE CAN TURN AROUND PRICING RELATIVELY QUICKLY ONCE WE HAVE EXPOSED.
AND A REMINDER FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE CITY HAS TO PAY PREVAILING WAGE FOR ALL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. ANY WORK OVER $1000. THE PRICE WE PAY IS MUCH
HIGHER THAN THE MARKET RATE THAT A PRIVATE ENTITY WOULD BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THIS WORK.
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON .
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IS WHEN WE THINK THE BUILDING IS WORTH RIGHT NOW? I HAVE READ A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT SIZE, BUT
WE DON'T HAVE AN IMMEDIATE PLAN TO FIGURE OUT MONEY FOR A NEW LIBRARY, AND THIS IS A BUILDING THAT THE CITY OWNS. WE HAVE TO REPAIR IT UNLESS SOMEBODY MENTIONED A FULL TEAR DOWN, BUT THIS BUILDING MUST BE VALUED AT -- MILLIONS? WHAT WE ARE REINVESTING IS A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT IS VALUED AT. IT IS OUR BUILDING. WE HAVE TO REPAIR IT EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE HOME OF THE LIBRARY IT WOULD BE THE HOME OF SOMETHING ELSE. MAYBE? I CAN'T IMAGINE FULLY TEARING IT DOWN.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS?
THE WHOLE PARCEL IS 3.6 AND THE LIBRARY IS LARGER THAN A HALF PORTION OF THAT.
SO IT IS SOME PORTION OF $3.5 MILLION. AND IT'S WORTH LESS IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD ON TOP OF IT INTO A DIFFERENT THING. BUT FOR US THE REPLACEMENT VALUE IS PROBABLY 2 MILLION. TO THROW $400,000 OR LESS INTO IT IS PROBABLY SAFE TO HAVE A PLACE TO HAVE A LIBRARY. THAT'S A FINANCIAL DECISION PEOPLE STRUGGLE OVER AND
I THINK SHOULD BE STRUGGLED OVER AND NOT JUST THOUGHT ABOUT, BUT IN MY OPINION -- I'M JUST TALKING. IT'S PROBABLY WORTHY OF FIXING.
COULD WE STICK TO QUESTIONS.
MY QUESTION IS THE FACT THAT -- THE LIBRARY -- THE BUILDING WAS BUILT SAME TIME THE CITY HALL. WHEN IS THE LAST TIME CITY HALL WAS LOOKED AT? IF THERE IS MOLD
IN THE LIBRARY, YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE THE SAME SET OF CIRCUMSTANCE EXISTED -- I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE AND OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN MAKING
SURE THE CITY HALL IS ALSO FALLING APART BECAUSE WE NEVER LOOKED IN THE WALLS. CAN YOU ANSWER THAT?
WHAT WE FIND THE LIBRARY IS THEY HAD WALLPAPER AGAINST THE ROCK AND IT WAS HOLDING IN MOISTURE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CAUSING THE MOISTURE SO THAT'S
SOMETHING WE WILL LOOK AT WIL REPORT OFF BUT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT LETTING THE
SHEET ROCK BREEDS, THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON WE ASSUME THAT THE MOLD IS THERE. WE ARE NOT SEEING THAT AS CITY HALL HAS SHEET ROCK. SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUES THERE.
OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE CAN GO OUT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
Agenda Item Number 1
City Council Meeting Packet for July 21, 2026
THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CHAIRMAN LIBRARY SITUATION.
Agenda Item Number 1
I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. AS I JUST HEARD THERE'S WALLPAPER IN THE LIBRARY, I'M CURIOUS. WHO PUT THAT UP? IF WE DIDN'T PUT IT IN CITY HALL WAS A PUT UP BY LIBRARY STAFF OR BY THE CITY? AND THAT GOES TO A POINT THAT WE GOT FROM
A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WAS ASKING ABOUT LIABILITY, SO I'M WONDERING WHO PUT THAT WALLPAPER UP. PEOPLE KNOW WALLPAPER IS NOT GREAT FOR HOUSES. WE LEARNED ABOUT. BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LIBRARY DID IT DURING A REMODEL.
NOW WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU. I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT AND THE LIBRARY'S SUPPORT TO AUTHORIZE THE PHASE 2 REMEDIATION SO WE CAN CONTINUE MOVING THIS FORWARD. THE CITY AND LIBRARY HAVE A LONG HISTORY TO PROVIDE LIBRARY
SERVICES AND I WANT TO THANK CITY STAFF WHILE WE WORK ON SOME TEMPORARY LIBRARY SERVICES. THE LIBRARY HAS DEMONSTRATED HIS COMMITMENT BY PROVIDING 50% OF THE REIMBURSEMENT AND I'M WILLING TO TAKE THESE COSTS AND LIBRARY COMMISSION AND ASK THEM TO SHARE IN THAT RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL. FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE PAYING FOR THE ROOM REPAIR IS MUCH CHEAPER THAN MOVING TO A NEW LIBRARY. WHEN WE HAD A TEMPORARY LOCATION, IT WAS A COMMUNITY CENTER AND IT WAS $400,000 FROM THE LIBRARY FUND TO MOVE TO THAT LOCATION. THAT INCLUDED MOVING COSTS AND I.T. COSTS BECAUSE WE HAD TO ADD STAFF WORKSTATIONS AND DO REPAIRS WILL BE HAD EIGHT TEMPORARY BUILDING IT WAS $1 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR
THE TEMPORARY SPACE AND THAT WAS FOR BUILDING WE OCCUPIED FOR A YEAR WILL NEVER USE AGAIN. $200,000 TO DO THE REPAIRS AND REMEDIATION IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE COST-EFFECTIVE THAN PURCHASING A BUILDING. WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A
HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE AT THE LIBRARY THEN WE CAN IN A TEMPORARY SPACE AND
GIVEN THE LENGTH OF TIME THE LIBRARY WILL BE CLOSED IT MAKES GOOD SENSE TO
REPAIR THE EXISTING BUILDING WHILE WE WORK ON A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR A FUTURE LARGER LIBRARY.
OUT TO ZOOM.
JUST A COMMENT ON HISTORY AND I'M REALLY FUSSY ON THIS. I CAN'T FIGURE OUT
EXACTLY WHICH PROJECTS WERE PLANNED AND WHICH ONES WERE DONE, BUT I THINK
PRIOR TO THE CONTRACT THAT GOES BACK SEVERAL YEARS THERE WAS A CIP PROJECT TO REPLACE THE ROOF. THEY WANTED TO DO A NO COST SOLAR PANEL JOB AND THAT
REQUIRED A ROOF REPAIR OR ROOF REPLACEMENT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GOT DONE UNDER [ INAUDIBLE ], BUT IT WAS A CONTRACT. BUT A COUPLE YEARS AGO THERE WAS A CIP PROJECT FOR ROOF REPAIR. THE QUESTION WOULD BE DID THE CONTRACTOR
DO SOMETHING TO THE ROOF THAT PERHAPS CAUSED IT OR WAS THE REASON THAT THE ROOF NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED. I KNOW ARIANNA IS ON TOP OF THIS BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HISTORY THEY HAVE THERE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS? BACK OUT TO ZOOM.
LINDA.
THIS HAS BEEN REALLY INTERESTING. I'M SURPRISED BY THE LIBRARY BEING CLOSE. I
DON'T THINK I'VE EVER BEEN IN FORRESTVILLE AND I WAS SURPRISED -- I CAN SEE WHY
NOW AFTER DESCRIPTION THE BUILDING WAS SAFE THEY WERE REDOING STUFF AND PUTTING THAT BOOK DISCHARGE SYSTEM IN. SO THEY COULD HAVE A BUS DURING CERTAIN DAYS. LIBRARY DOES A LOT MORE THAN JUST HAND BE A BOOK. AND THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF THAT. THEY'VE HAD MUSIC PERFORMANCES AND STORYTELLING FOR CHILDREN. SMALL CHILDREN WERE WATCHING THE LIBRARY AND DO A PUPPET SHOW. HAVING OBSERVED IT FOR A FULL DAY WERE REGISTERING VOTERS
THERE WANT WILL A LOT OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE COMPUTERS USING IT. I HOPE WE CAN GET IT BACK FAST
THE SUGGESTION THAT THE ISSUE IS WITH JUST THE WALLPAPER AND SHEET ROCK, BUT
YET WE SAW PRIOR TO THAT WOULD APPEAR TO BE DRY ROT, WHICH WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD SIMPLY BE SHEET ROCK AND WALLPAPER INTERACTING.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET CLARITY ON THAT. WHAT I'VE BEEN FASCINATED BY FROM
PUBLIC COMMENT AROUND THIS ISSUE IS ABOUT THE ABYSMAL PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ISSUE. THAT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE ABILITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE IT OUT TO THESE OTHER LOCATIONS. I HAVE REGULARLY CRITICIZED THE Agenda Item Number 1
City Council Meeting Packet for July 21, 2026
CURRENT -- FOR THE ALLOWANCE OF HUGE REDUCTIONS IN SERVICE OFFERINGS FROM
SEBASTOPOL SANTA ROSA FROM THERE TO -- COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHEN IT COMES TIME
FOR COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS, PLEASE CONSIDER TAKING UP SCTA FOR TRANSPORTATION ROUTES THAT WERE THERE PRIOR TO 2020 . THIS IS A PERFECT
EXAMPLE OF THIS WILL WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH ACTUAL NEEDS TO
LEAVE THE CITY TO ACCESS INFRASTRUCTURE, LIBRARY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY
CANNOT DO RELIABLY AS A RESULT OF THE HUGE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ACCESS WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST 5 TO 6 YEARS UNDER THE WATCH OF THE CURRENT SCTA REP.
Agenda Item Number 1
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. IS THERE ANYBODY VIRTUALLY? PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR COMMENTS? MY COMMENT IS THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED
MAJOR FIXES TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER KNOWING THAT IT IS IN A FLOOD ZONE AND WE DID THAT. WE NEED TO DO THE SAME THING FOR THE LIBRARY. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE THE BUILDING AND NOT REPAIR IT. I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE WALLPAPER ON THE EXTERIOR WALLS. THAT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE SENSE TO ME. MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT.
THE WALLPAPER IS ON THE INTERIOR OF THE EXTERIOR WALLS. THE LEAKING IS HAPPENING IN THE WALL AND IT'S GOING TO THE SHEET ROCK BUT IT CAN'T BREATHE.
THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO DO THE REMEDIATION WORK BUT ALSO
TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE MOISTURE IS COMING FROM BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T IDENTIFY THAT, IT WILL REPEAT ITSELF. MY HOPE IS THAT THESE CONTRACTORS YOU'RE WORKING
WITH MAKE THAT THEIR PRIORITY TO IDENTIFY AND REMEDIATE WHEREVER THE
SOURCE OF MOISTURE IS, AND THEN, I'M WONDERING -- OUR LIBRARY, WHEN YOU WALK
INTO IT, IT HAS HALLWAY AND ONE SIDE IS CLOSED OFF YOU HAVE ANOTHER ROOM IF YOU COME IN FROM HIGH STREET. YOU HAVE A ROOM ON THE RIGHT THAT'S BIG ENOUGH IF IT DOESN'T HAVE MOLD, WHY IS AND THAT BEING USED FOR HOLTZ? I'M DRIVING TO
PICK UP HOLD AND YOU COULD HAVE A ROOM EVEN SMALLER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE IN FORRESTVILLE. WHY ISN'T THAT BEING USED. THE REST OF THE LIBRARY IS SECTIONED OFF AND YOU COULD EVEN BRING IN A FEW COMPUTERS. HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THAT? OR PLEASE LOOK INTO THAT.
THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR CAN ADDRESS THAT.
THAT WOULD BE THE IDEAL SOLUTION. IF THE MEETING ROOM COULD BE DONE FIRST
AND THEN WE COULD SECTION OFF THE REST OF THE LIBRARY SO WE COULD USE IT IN A WAY THAT YOU SUGGEST. IN THE INTERIM WE ARE LOOKING AT PROVIDING THEM PICKED UP AT OTHER LOCATIONS IN TOWN.
WHY CAN'T IT BE DONE NOW? IS IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WORKING IN THERE? THAT WHOLE SECTION IS CLOSED OFF. SEPARATE.
POTENTIALLY, BUT WILLING TO DO ENVIRONMENTAL ISOLATION OF THE AREA.
I THINK ADDITIONALLY WE NEED TO ASSESS IF THERE IS MOLD IN THE MEETING ROOM SPACE AS WELL.
I WILL MOVE THE RECOMMENDATION.
SECONDED.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR MAURER TO
APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE INVOICES FOR THE MOLD REMOVAL AND SET ASIDE FOR THE 175,000.
[ ROLL CALL ] THE MOTION PASSES 4-1. WE WANTED YOU THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA AND IF YOU DID NOT SPEAK OF THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS? IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. I WANTED TO SAY THAT WE DID HIRE AN ASSOCIATE PLANNER. OFFERED THE CONDITIONAL OFFER LETTER THEY ACCEPTED AND IT WILL BE 4 TO 6 WEEKS FOR A BACKGROUND CHECK. WE DID RECEIVE THREE PROPOSALS FOR PLANNING SERVICES. WE WILL BE VETTING TWO OF THEM AND MOVING FORWARD WITH INTERVIEWS. I'M IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING A FORMER CITY CLERK TO DO NOMINATIONS. BETWEEN JULY AND AUGUST. WE ARE WORKING ON THE CONTRACT. IF
SHE CANNOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE CONTRACT, THEN I WILL RECOMMEND Agenda Item Number 1
City Council Meeting Packet for July 21, 2026
CITY STAFF TO DO THE NOMINATION FORMS. THE NOMINATION PERIOD OPENS ON MONDAY FOR CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATES TO PULL PAPERS. JULY 13th. THESE ARE ONLY BY APPOINTMENT ONLY SO PLEASE CALL US TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
Agenda Item Number 1
ANY REPORTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
THANK YOU. A NUMBER OF CONTINUOUS HOMELESS COALITION BOARD MEETINGS. THE
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHO IS ALSO ON THAT ALONG WITH THE FOLKS FROM [ INAUDIBLE ] FOR THERE TO BE MORE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS TO ADDRESS STARTUP ISSUES. THAT IS ONGOING WORK. ALSO STILL ON THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE FROM THE HUD GRANTS IN ADDITION TO KEEPING UP WITH WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE BOARD.
ANYONE ELSE?
I DID WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF ADDRESS A FEW COMMENTS MADE TONIGHT. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ASK FOR ROUTE 29 BACK FROM SANTA ROSA TO THE OCEAN AND WE HAVE BEEN DENIED FOR A FEW YEARS IN A ROW. AND TO ADDRESS NEGATIVE SPEAK
FROM THE PUBLIC AS THE REP FROM SCTA BOTH MYSELF I'VE SAT ON IT AND LINDA
HOPKINS HAS BEEN IN THE POINTY WE CONTINUE TO GET DOLLARS TO WEST COUNTY
OVERALL INCLUDING SEBASTOPOL BUT ANYONE THAT FOLLOWS TRANSPORTATION KNOWS THAT IT'S A TOUGH GO RIGHT NOW. AND ROUTES ARE BEING CUT BACK AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN THAT SEGMENT.
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER.
ONCE AGAIN, I'M SURE I DID SOMETHING. I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS NEED TO BE INFORMED ABOUT IT. I'M HAVING A BRAIN FOG. WILL SAVE IT FOR LATER.
I HAVE A SHORT REPORT FROM THE ZERO WASTE MEETING. WE HAD A PRESENTATION BY
TWO RECYCLERS REGARDING THE CRV, WHICH IS THE -- WHENEVER YOU BUY A BOTTLE OR A CAN THAT'S EITHER FIVE OR 10 OR $.15, THESE COMPANIES DO THE RECYCLING. WE HAVE ONE RIGHT HERE. AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IS AT THE STORE THEY ARE
COLLECTING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF UNREDEEMED BOTTLES AND CANS FROM -- THEY HAVE THIS PICK FUND AND ITS MANAGED BY CAL RECYCLE. OTHER AGENCIES BORROW FROM IT. SO WHEN YOU PUT THESE TYPES OF CANS AND BOTTLES INTO THE RECYCLING, THEY DON'T RECEIVE MONEY FOR THOSE REDEMPTIONS. THEY RECYCLE THEM THAT THEY DON'T GET THE REDEMPTION VALUE. THEY GO TO THE NORTH BAY RECYCLE SOME.
THEY CAN SHOW YOU HAD A ROUTINE ANY BOTTLES. AND I THOUGHT I WILL TRY AND I REALIZED WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT MANY TO DO. YOU CAN GET A DEBIT CARD FROM THEM AND THEY WILL PUT MONEY ON IT FOR YOU. AND YOU CAN DO IT ON THE COMPUTER.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CELL PHONE. THAT'S MY REPORT. ANYTHING ELSE? THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. [Event Concluded]
Agenda Item Number 1
City Council Meeting Packet for July 21, 2026