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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Do my council members want to ask questions of Finn.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so we I'm willing to do that. That's okay. 1164
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sure, Finn, can you unmute yourself, please? 1165
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Finn Liss: Yep, can you hear me.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, we can hear you. Thank you. 1167
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Finn Liss: Yeah, thanks for letting me speak again. Sure.

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Finn Liss: Couple things. The comments I just heard about how we started at the deli. 1169
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Finn Liss: I guess my question to you guys, how are we still not a deli? We sell meat by the weight, and wesellsides and delicontainers. Whatclassifies what's a deliand nota deli? 1170
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Finn Liss: There's been conversations about that around us, that we're not a deli anymore.

At the end of the day.
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Finn Liss: We could talk all day long about what we really are. But if you really want to pinpoint it, I would. I could stay with Philadelphia.
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Finn Liss: As far as the zoning, look, we… Everything happened so fast. 1173
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Finn Liss: And it didn't work. It wasn't just about the smoke. Then the arguments being that we weren't in the correct zoning.
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Finn Liss: Right, then the question becomes, well then, how were we allowed to open in the 1st place? Obviously, there were mistakes made in 5.
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Finn Liss: Offline.
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Finn Liss: We were awarded Business of the Year by the Chamber of Commerce when we were already operating with those smokers, so everyone knew what we were doing. 1177
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Finn Liss: The reason the zoning thing has come up today is because that was recommended to us by city managers.
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Finn Liss: She suggested that we file this motion. That was the advice we weregiving by the City Council.

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Finn Liss: So… That's why we're here. The second reason we're here is 1180
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Finn Liss: Given all of this going on, we don't know how much time we really do or don't have, right? So even if we fix the smoker issue, there's still the arguments that are being made that were not in the correct zone.
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Finn Liss: So we have to look at all aspects of.
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Finn Liss: How we protect our business, and…
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Finn Liss: If the reality is we can't be there because of zoning. 1184
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Finn Liss: Right? Okay, wegotta find anotherlocation. And we'reworkingwith Sebastopol, but we're not getting a whole lot of response from the building department.

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Finn Liss: Like I said, Bill Carter's been the only one that has really even helped us Look at property.
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Finn Liss: So it's all because of the time pressure. We don't know how long we can stay there before somebody ultimately just says, okay, you can't be here anymore. So what we're doing is looking at properties.
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Finn Liss: Seeing if something can be done about the zoning, seeing if we get some filtration for the smokers, will that mean we can stay? But what I'm hearing now is even if we get something to fix the smoke, that we're still not in the rightzoning. 1188
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Finn Liss: So just from our perspective, we're exploring all avenues to make everything right.

We want our neighbors to be happy.
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Finn Liss: Right? Again, these things take time. If we had known earlier that this was going to be an issue, we might have had this solved by now.
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Finn Liss: Wearefightingforthebusiness and shuttingthebusiness down is justsomething that we can't swallow.
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Finn Liss: We are actively communicating with City Council members. 1192
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Finn Liss: some people not responding to it. So I would also encourage you guys to… anyone we have written email to reach out to you to get back to us. 1193
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Finn Liss: Keep in mind, we're operating in business. We're very busy. We're working sometimes 12, 14-hour days. If we're not hearing back from members of the city. 1194
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Finn Liss: How much morecan wedo? Dowestartshowingup atyouroffices? Like, we want to meet with ourguys. We want to figure this thing out. 1195
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Finn Liss: But there's clearly a lot of gray area in terms of Agenda Item Number 1
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Finn Liss: Yeah, get this. Get the smoke fix. Okay. But now there's azoning issue. we also need a clear understanding from the city of what we can and can't do. but we can't do it at the expense of losing the business.
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Finn Liss: Given that we've been smoking since we opened. 1198
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Finn Liss: So, that's themain question, too, is how doweend up herein thefirstplace? I think
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Finn Liss: like I said, mistakes were made amongst different people. 1200
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Finn Liss: maybe including us, too. Maybe we should do more research before we open the business in that location. But the city ultimately approved us smoking in that location.

We're happy to collaborate and figure something out.
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Finn Liss: There's financialstrain thatcomes with thesesolutions, right? Dowewantto build a water scrubber that costs $50,000, and then we're told a month later that we have to leave anyway because of the zoning issue? So I think the best thing forward here is for us to get together and really come up with a plan.
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Finn Liss: But it can't happen at the expense of us losing our business. 1203
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Finn. Councilmember Carter, you have a question?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't really see. 1205
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What I want is for businesses to feel like they're in a stable environment. It's really hard to operate when things feel 1206
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: shaky, and you don't know what's gonna happen next. So, even though Ithink the order of operations is that we fix the smoke, I think they Agenda Item Number 1
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should feel confident that if they do fix the smoke and everything's fine, that we can look at the zoning then.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If they… if they want to stay. And if they move, then that isn't an exercise we have to go through. But I would like the business to feel confident that, you know, fixing the smoke then leads to,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, the zoning that they need to stay, that would be great.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I'm not sure that we need to do the zoning first. I just don't want to get the cart before the horse. 1210
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Any other comments or emotion. 1211
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SebastopolCommunityCulturalCenter: Yeah,I'llgoahead and moveStaff's recommendation, because I think that what they've laid out will be able to educate all of us.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: about our different options, and during the time that that will take it's like A. And M. May decide that it doesn't cost $55,000 for an air cleaner. Maybe it's closer to 33,000, and maybe they will set up a gofundme. And so maybe over the course of time, while both are doing their due diligence. 1213
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: we'll be able to arrive at a happy medium where we're protecting everyone's public health and supporting diverse businesses. So I move staff'srecommendation.
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SebastopolCommunity CulturalCenter:CanIask forclarification?Because Staff recommended Two things.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so I'm not sure which one you're you're reporting. IIunderstood thestaffreportas having
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Requesting time.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to do the analysis on the two options that are set forth. And so that's why I sent the email to Mary about asking how much it would be for Alex's time.And then tonight we got definitive proof about how muchit's goingto toss for planningstaff. Soforme, it's worth threehours of his timeand up to18hours of hertime.

I'll stick with that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, we have a motion and a second. Can we take a roll call? So moved by Councilmember Zollman and seconded by Councilmember Cartage, who's your ex-staff, to return to a future Council meeting with both options reviewed and analyzed for the allowance of commercial outdoor barbecue smokers within the zoning district.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: with the Cup or other similar entitlements.

Councilmember Carter.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can I ask a question in the middle of a vote? 1221
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Like, like, is anything, like, conditional? Like, must, must the business
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: meet certain standards for, you know, like, we can approve this, but, like, in order to go forward with the actual process, can we, you know. 1223
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: mandate certain performance by the business. So if the, you know, their conditional permit was issued, there can be conditions of approval on that permit.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, requiring whatever the Council might decide.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So we, so, just so I can get this straight, so first you change
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The zoning, and then they get a conditional use permit.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, we can process those simultaneously. So the use… the zoning change gets approved, and at the same meeting, the use permit gets approved. And the use permit can be… Can have conditions of approval. 1228
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: associated with it. So these are these are, you know. Sometimes we put conditions of approval about hours of operation, or 1229
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, things like that. So you could do, if there are concerns about
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Smoking, you could have, you know, conditions of approval related to that, and they often have time frames about when the condition has to besatisfied.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, right now, we're just, like… 1232
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: your time isthinking about it. Right now, staff will bring back the two options for how the zoning change could be 1233
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: how the zoning code could be changed with a detailed analysis of what the implications of each option could be, and that the council can then look at those options and say, move forward with option A, move forward with option B, don't move forward with either of them. Okay. And…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, I I get it. I that's so. Yeah. Yes. 1235
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Councilmember Hinton. 1236
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Neysa Hinton: Bye.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zollman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer? Yes. Mayor McLewis is absent. Motion passes four to one for Councilmember Carter, Hinton, Zollman, and Vice Mayor Maurer
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: discussion and approval of budget amendment for initial invoices for testing and mold, removal, etc, and discussion of proposed cost and timeline for library remediation.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This item is to approve the initial emergency response to the mold that was found at the library, and to talk through the phase one remediation that we're proposing to do there. I'm going to bring up a slideshow and just kind of run through
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: where we've been and where we're headed. So we're all on the same page on this discussion.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: One moment…
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SebastopolCommunity CulturalCenter:Okay,so onJune 4th,library staffnoticed 1245
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: some mold, some warping in the library wallpaper on the exterior walls, and the city has owns the building and leases it to the library. So the exteriorwalls of thebuildingarethecity's responsibility. Librarystaffproactivelyclosed the library on the afternoon of June 4.th
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Library staff thenext day, after all the public wasn't there and the staff wasn't there, went into the walls to see if they could determine what was going on.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: At that point, they were in contact with Public Works, and we had, an environmental specialist go out there as well. They advised that we stop making the holes in the walls, because we might possibly spread any potential mold 1248
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: into the 2 areas where they had originally seen the wallpaper warping.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So when nobody was there, we tested the air in the two areas, so the staff room and the teenage reading room where wall material had been removed.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and we found to have elevated mold in those two areas. They tested the common room as well, and the other staff areas, and there were no elevated mold readings in any of those areas.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So this is what happened. This was Friday. We did this testing. This is the specialist doing it, and we sent the mold or the testing that they'd done to an outside lab where it was identified that the mold that we're seeing on the wallpaper is black mold.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So we asked them to contain it and begin remediation. That's the phase one emergency work. Again, we did not find any elevated mold within the main areas of the library. It was just in those two enclaves where the excavation happened into the wall.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So they contained those, they put in HEPA filters throughout the library while they were doing that work, and they began remediating the walls, so they removed the wallpaper.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: within those areas, and they found that the mold is pretty substantial underneath the wallpaper again, just in these 2 areas. This took them from June fifth to June sixteenth. They removed all of the sheetrock. They removed the batting that was underneath, and remediated the area and cleaned the the 1255
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Framing.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What they found in the teen reading room is that after they had removed all of the sheetrock, there's some structural damage to that west wall of the building. Again, this is just in one little wall, we don't know what else is going on, this is just in the areas that they've exposed.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But while they were doing that, they did some moisture testing in the other areas in the library, both that they'd exposed and on the places where the wallpaper is, and you can see other areas where there's peeling wallpaper around the exterior of the building.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So the initial assessment is that there's likely additional mold around the exterior of the building that's being held in by the wallpaper. 1260
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So what we're proposing as a next step, we need to approve the emergency invoice that they have given us, but we also have pricing to 1261
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We're going to isolate the walls of the exterior building, havethelibrarystaffhelp us moveallthebooks and stufftothecenter, do containment like you saw in the teen area around those exterior walls, and then start pulling back that wallpaper to see how extensive the mold is behind the wallpaper and pull the sheetrock off from there and remediate those wall areas. So that isthe pricing that is before you for
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: approval tonight.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Once we have all those areas exposed, and you can see the framing beneath the sheetrock, we'll be able to make a better of assessment about what the structural damage is to the building. At this point, we're really just guessing, so trying to get costing for what a full repair would look like. 1264
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: is a very big estimate. So I've gotten some just preliminary costs on what we think it might be to reconstruct, assuming the level of damage that we saw in the team room. But we're going to have contractors come in once we have the walls exposed and do a better bid for the project. 1265
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So this is… well, Phase 1 was the initial, cost of the emergency response to decontaminate the two rooms that were exposed. The price was $47,000. The library has agreed to cost-share that with us at a 50-50 split, so the cost to Sebastopol is $23,000.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 844. And then we've received one price, and I'm looking for two more proposals from qualifiedremediating companies to come in and do that exposure of the exterior walls, and clean up any mold that we do find there, up to the $175,000, which is the one price I currently have.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: At that point, kind of the preliminary estimates that we're getting from that same contractor is that reconstruction would be on the order of $200,000 to do any structural repair, to put the sheetrock back, to put the 1268
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: installation back and put us back together. So this is kind of our projected, total budget. As we know right now, that Phase 3 is very preliminary. We need more information before we can really assess what that number is.

We're proposing to take this from the Building Reserve Fund, which 1269
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: As indicated, we currently have a balance of $594,000 in.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I am.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can you tell us what that total was? I couldn't quite see it from here.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Was it 3 38,000.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 398. 398, thank you. So about $400,000. Again, that phase 3 is
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: a very preliminary estimate, and will likely change.

Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So what requesting of council tonight is approving the invoice we already have for the original immediate remediation of the teen room and thestaffarea.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For the containment and the cleanup, and then approval for the second phase to, expose the rest of the exterior walls, clean up the mold that we find, and then assess the structural damage behind that. 1277
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And as Mary indicated earlier, we've been working with the library to try tofind them some temporary locations for the bus and facilities and classes, and we're still in that process.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I'll pause. And we're here for questions as best as we can at this point.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zolman. 1280
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, thank you, and honestly, I think that that information you just shared was not what I read in the staff report, so that to me is actually astounding. So, when I said earlier, in reference to the other agenda item, that those two were pretty much tied together, this building the Sebastopol Commons. 1281
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and then this whole remediation. So really, with what's been spent already, and I appreciate the library chipping in for half of it. That's not unprecedented, and I really want to be clear about this. I sat on the Library Commission as an appointee of this city, and I know for sure
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that the library did chip in on substantial other necessary repairs for other sister cities.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The HVAC in Santa Rosa. 1284
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, you could correct me if I'm wrong, but that was my understanding, the fact that there are exceptions. So, I'm seeing heads shaking, so you can refute it back, the fact that that is not true. But the fact of the matter is, we're now talking about something of, like.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: repay or to approve in hindsight, that already brings it up to a half a million dollars for a building that the library administration has already said in its report 10 years ago, that's not the right size for us. So what are we really doing?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I mean, not with the price that's being put forth now. I think that this probably is something that it's just like we need to really have a strong think of, of whether we're gonna approve $500,000 for a building we're gonna hope to get fixed with mold and with dry rot, to what?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: be in a substandard place. It doesn't even make mathematical sense to me. So that's where I'm at. Other questions? 1290
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The next phase of the remediation will take about 3 weeks, and then we'll need to have contractors go in and give us some pricing. Once the walls are exposed. Look at the structural damage.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, like, construction… In in some like. 1294
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I reconstruction may not take very long, so this could be a month, or could be 2 months. The remediation piece will be at least a month, and then we'll bring back pricing to do the reconstruction to this council. 1295
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that thinking about process will take 3 weeks?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, and perhaps I can answer this question. The city has obligations to publicly bid contracts, so depending on the amount of the contract. 1300
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Don't quote me on this exactly. I think it's 225. If it's below $225,000, we can informally bid it. That still involves a little bit of formality. 1301
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If it's above that, we have to do a formal bid. That involves publishing notice, sending out notice to bid, receiving that. You usually have that open for 2 weeks to receive bids. Bids are then brought to the Council for 1302
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: approval. So being drywall, your estimation is this is over $225,000?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That was. Well.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I have already had contractors look at it and start thinking about how they would provide pricing. It's just really hard to tell when we don't know what kind of structural damage there is. So people are already thinking about it. They just need to come back in once the walls are exposed. So yes, I think we can turn around pricing relatively quickly once we have it exposed.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And and just a reminder for for council member council members. The city has to pay prevailing wage on all of its construction project any work over a thousand dollars. So
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The price we pay is much higher than the market rate that a private entity would be able to pay for this type of work. 1308
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Neysa Hinton: That, you know, this is not the right size, but we don't have an immediate plan to figure out money for a new library.
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Neysa Hinton: Unless somebody mentioned a full teardown. But I can't imagine this building must be valued at.
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Neysa Hinton: Millions, 10 million? I, I, I was just curious because really what we're reinvesting is a percentage.
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Neysa Hinton: of what it's valued at. It is our building. We have to repair it, even if it's not the home of the library. I would assume it would be the home of something else. 1316
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Neysa Hinton: Maybe. Or I just can't imagine a full teardown. 1317
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So yeah, Councilman Member Carr, you may be able to talk to it more. I'd be referring to the same assessment that we did with the building of the Commons, where the whole parcel is 3.6, and the library is some larger than half portion of that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So to Oriana's point, it's some portion of 3.5 million dollars, and it's worth less as if somebody wants to build on top of it and do a different thing, and we have to rezone it. But for us, the replacement value is probably 1320
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, you know, to throw $400,000 or less into it is probably safe to have a place to have a library.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I think, you know, to have, in my opinion, that now that I'm just talking.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Could we please just stick to questions, and then we'll go out to public comment. Councilmember Zolman. Yeah. So my question is the fact that to Oriana the
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the library… the building where the library is now was built at the same time as City Hall, right? So when's the last time City Hall's been looked at? If there is mold and dry rot in the library, are you saying the fact that you don't really feel like the same existed
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the same set of circumstances exists for our staff, notlikeI'mnotconcerned forlibrarystaff. I'mconcerned about, like, a publichealth issue, and our due diligence, and making sure that the City Hall isn't also falling apart, because we've never really looked in the walls. So, can you answer that? 1329
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, what we're finding in the library is that they had wallpaper against the sheetrock and was holding in moisture, and we don't know what's causing the moisture to be there, so that's one of the things we're gonna look at when we pull all of it off.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But because that wallpaper was not letting the sheetrock breathe, that is the primary reason we're assuming that the mold is there. So we're not seeing that at City Hall. City Hall has sheetrock.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I… don't believe that we have the same issues there. Okay, thanks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Any other questions. 1333
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We can go out to public comment. 1334
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Vice Mayor. So this is public comment on the Sebastopol Library situation. If you'd like to make a public comment, we go to inperson for… Councilmember Hinton, I believe, has a question. Erica, just for a second, I. 1335
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Neysa Hinton: Yeah, I just had one more question.
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Neysa Hinton: As I just heard that there's wallpaper in the library. I'm curious, who put that wallpaper up? Because if we didn't put it in City Hall, was that put up by library staff or by the city?
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Neysa Hinton: And that goes to a point that we got from a member of the public that was asking about liability, and so I'm wondering who put that 1339
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Neysa Hinton: Wallpaper up because a lot of people know wallpaper isn't really great for houses. You know, we've learned.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's my understanding that the library did it during one of the remodels.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, now, we will go out to public comment.

Erica. Thank you. Erica Chabot, library director. I'm glad to be here as part of this discussion.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just want to express my strong support and the library's strong support for staff recommendation to authorize the phase 2 remediation. 1343
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: so that we can continue moving this project forward. The city and the library have a long history of working together to provide library servicetoSebastopol, and Iwanttothankthecitystaff, especiallyOriana, Mary, and Cynthia at the Community Center. While we're working on some temporary library services. 1344
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The library's also demonstrated its commitment by providing 50% of the reimbursement for the phase one emergency, and I'm also willing to take the phase 2 cost to the Library Commission and ask them to 1345
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To share in that responsibility as well. From my perspective, paying for the remediation, the repair is much cheaper than moving to a new library. I can share that when we had a temporary location in Healdsburg, that was a community center, it was a turnkey building, it was $400,000. 1346
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: from the library's funds to move to that location.

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staff workstations, wehad to do some repairs. When wehad a temporary building at the Petaluma, Kenilworth Teen Center, that was a million dollars. 1347
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: in funding for the temporary space, and that was for a building that we occupied for a year that we will never use again. 1348
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, from my perspective, $200,000 to the repairs and the remediation is significantly more cost-effectivethan purchasinga building. We also will be able to provide a higher level of service at the library than we can in a temporary space.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And you know, given that the length of time that the library will be closed to me, it just makes good sense to repair the existing building while we work on a long-term plan for a future larger library. Thank you. 1350
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Erica, for your public comment. I'll go out to Zoom
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Lee: Yes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Can you see the timer still. 1354
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Lee: Thank you. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead, please. 1356
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Lee: Yeah, just a comment on history, and I'm really fuzzy on this. This goes back to my comment of not being able to figure out exactly which
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Lee: were planned, and then which ones were done, but I think prior to the CISRCO contract, which goes back several years, there was a CIP project to replace the roof. 1359
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Lee: I think, as part of Cisco, they wanted to do a no cost solar panel job, and that required a roof repair, a roof replacement, and
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Lee: I don't know that that got done.
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Lee: under Cisco's proposal anyway, but it was a contract. But then a couple years ago, there was a CIP project that was for roof repair and solar panels, so maybe that was that project. But anyway, the question would be, did a contractor do something to the roof that, perhaps
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Lee: caused the leak? Or was the leak an artifact, or the reason that the roof really needed to be repaired for so many years?
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Lee: I know Oriana probably is on top of this, but I don't know how much history. 1364
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Lee: they have there. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment. I will come into chambers if there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment. 1366
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go back out to Zoom. Linda, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Linda Robinett: This has been really interesting.
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Linda Robinett: you know, surprised by the library being closed. I haven't managed to get over to
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Linda Robinett: And I was kind of surprised there wasn't a bibliobus for us, but I can see why now, after the description, because past time we had a bibliobus, the actual building was safe. They were just redoing stuff and putting that great new 1371
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Linda Robinett: book discharge system in so they could have a biblio bus during certain days, and we could operate in the library. But I can see the library does a lot more than just 1372
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Linda Robinett: Hand me a book!
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Linda Robinett: and I think unless they really, they're going to lose a lot of that. I mean, they've had music performances there. They've had storytelling for children there continually. I think every Monday they were having
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Linda Robinett: really small children. I remember peeking in and watching the librarian there do a puppet show for really young people. So
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Linda Robinett: And of course, having observed a library for a full day while registering voters there once, we have a lot of the homeless population and other people who don't have computers at home using it.
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Linda Robinett: So I hope we can get it back fast. And I have a feeling just going ahead with this project is probably going to be the fastest way to get the library back. 1377
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Linda, for your public comments.

Next, again, I will come back into cham
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I'll go back out to Zoom. Kyle, can you un.
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Kyle Falbo: I can.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Can you still see the tim. 1381
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Kyle Falbo: I can.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Great. Go ahead, please. 1383
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Kyle Falbo: The issue is with just wallpaper and sheetrock and breathing, but yet we saw prior to that, what appeared to be dry rot.
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Kyle Falbo: Which would not be something that would just simply be sheetrock and wallpaper interacting.
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Kyle Falbo: So hopefully we can get some clarity on that. What I've been really fascinated by…
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Kyle Falbo: From public comment, and about around this issue, is about the abysmal public transportation issue.
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Kyle Falbo: That we don't even have the ability for our residents to make it out to these libraries at these other locations as a result of
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Kyle Falbo: reduction in public transportation access for our city. I have regularly criticized the current SCTA rep for the allowance of huge reductions in service offerings from Sebastopol to Santa Rosa, from Sebastopol to Roanoke Park. 1390
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Kyle Falbo: This is a perfect example of this, where we have members of the public with actual needs to leave the city to access
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Kyle Falbo: infrastructure, library infrastructure, that they cannot do reliably as a result of the huge amount of cuts in public transportation access that we've seen over the last 5 to 6 years under the watch of the current SCTA rep.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Kyle, for your public comments. Next, I will come back into chambers. If there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go back out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment, to please raise your hand 1396
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed on this item.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, bringing it back to the dais, for a motion or comments.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I have a comment. 1399
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: My comment is that this council approved major fixes to the communitycenter, knowing that it's in a flood zone. 1400
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and we did that. So I think we need to do the same thing for the library. it wouldn't make sense to me to have a building and not repair it. 1401
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Maybe you could explain that. 1403
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The wallpaper's on the interior of the exterior wallpaper. Okay, thank you. That makes sense. There's decorative wallpaper that was put on, and so the leaking is clearly happening in the wall, and it's going through the sheetrock, but it can't breathe, so it's gonna get stuck. Okay, thank you. I think it's really important 1404
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to do the remediation work, but also to identify where the moisture is coming from, because if you don't identify where the moisture is coming from, it's just going to repeat itself. So my hope is that these contractors that you're working with make that their priorities to identify and remediate wherever the source of moisture is.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then I have,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm wondering about, you know, our library has… when youwalkintoit, ithas a hallway, and onesideof thelibraryis closed off. You'vegot another room on… if you're coming in, anyway, from High Street, you've got a room on the right that's big enough.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: if it doesn't have any mold, why isn't that being used for holes? Because I'm driving to Forestville to pick up my holes, and you could have the holes in a room actually even smaller
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: then what they have in Forestville, that room could be used for holds. So I'm wondering why that room isn't being used for holds, because the rest of the library is sectioned off.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and then you have. You could have. You could even bring in a few computers in there.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I'm wondering if you've looked into that. 1411
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Host #1: We do have the library director here that can address that. Okay, thank you. Appreciate that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That would be the ideal solution that, you know, when the repairs are done, that if the meeting room could be done first, st and then we could, section off the rest of the library so that we could use the meeting room in the way that you suggest.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that would be the ideal solution. But in the interim we are looking at providing a Holtz pickup at the at the community center or other spaces in town. In addition to the Biblio bus stop.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm just wondering why it can't be done now. Is it because you're going to have people coming and going and working in there, because that whole sectionisclosedoff,couldbe closedoff.
1416
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: separate.
1417
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Potentially, but we are going to do kind of environmental isolation of the whole area, so…
1418
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't know that I'd feel entirely comfortable. I'd feel better if we made it through the 3 weeks of remediating the walls before we did that.

And I think, additionally, we need to assess if there's any mold in the meeting room space as well.
1419
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: looking for a motion. I'm just gonna yeah. Move the recommendation.
1420
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll second.
1421
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so so moved by Councilmember Carter, and seconded by Vice Mayor Maurer to approve the budget amendment for the initial voice invoices for the testing, the mobile removal, and then for the 1422
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Set aside for the $175,000 based upon the bids coming back.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Councilmember Hinton? 1425
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Neysa Hinton: Bye.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zollman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer? Yes. Motion passes 4-1, with Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zollman, and Vice Mayor Maurer in support, and
1427
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We actually want to do the public comment. the second public comment period.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So this is an opportunity for public comment for items that are not on the agenda, and if you did not speak at the very first publiccomment period, if you would like to make a public comment for an item not on the agenda, and again, youdid not speak during the first public comment period, now is your opportunity. I will come to chambers first.
1429
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I'll go out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom, please raise your hand virt
1430
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, there is no public comment. 1431
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, so I just wanted to say that, we did hire an associate planner for the spousal planning department.
1432
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SebastopolCommunity CulturalCenter:Itis…we've offeredthe conditionalofferletter, they accepted, they're in background now, so that'll be 4 to 6 weeks for a background check. As I stated earlier, we did receive 3 proposals for planning services, we will be vetting 2 of them, and then moving forward with interviews. 1433
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I am in the process of hiring a former city clerk to do the nominations only, the elections, between July and August. We're still working on her contract, though.
1434
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But if she cannot meet the requirements in the contract, then I will be working with city staff to do the nomination period, or the nomination forms. And speaking of that, the nomination period opens on Monday for the city council candidates to pull papers, so July 13th.
1435
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: we'll be starting the process, so if there's anyone that wants to come in and talk about running for City Council, please call us. We… these are only by appointments only, so please call us to make an appointment. And that is all I have.
1436
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Do we have any reports from council members?
1437
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zolman. Thank you. So yes, a number of continuing homeless coalition board meetings, on the permanent support of housing,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: protocol development committee, and we're working with the new executive director, who also is on that from St. Vincent's to Paul, along with the folks from Elderberry, to figureout a way for there to be more 1439
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SebastopolCommunity CulturalCenter:collaborative effortsto addressstartup,issues, should they arise at St. Vincent de Paul, so that's an ongoing work. Also still on the evaluation committee
1440
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for the HUD grants in addition to keeping up with what's going on on the board. So that's my status. Thanks. Thank you. 1441
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anyone else.
1442
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, Councilmember Hinton. 1443
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Neysa Hinton: Yeah, I did want to give, just a brief, address a few comments that were made tonight. We have been trying to ask for, Route 29 back from Santa Rosa to the ocean, and we have been denied for a few years.
1444
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Neysa Hinton: In a row now and
1445
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Neysa Hinton: Just to address some negative speak from the public. 1446
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Neysa Hinton: as the rep for SCTCA for the last 3 years. Both myself, I've sat on it, and Linda Hopkins has been an appointee, to that board as well for the entire time I've sat on it from the Board of Supervisors, and we continue to lobby to try to get dollars to West… 1447
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Neysa Hinton: West County overall, including Sebastopol, but anybody that follows transportation knows that it's a really tough go right now, and routes are being cut back, and there's a lot of challenges in that,
1448
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Neysa Hinton: Segment.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you.
1450
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Carter. 1451
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Once again, I'm sure I did something. And I feel like you guys need to be informed about it.
1452
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm having a little bit of a brain fog, so we'll save it for later. Okay, thank you.
1453
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I just have a short report from the 0 waste meeting. We had a presentation by 2 recyclers regarding the Crv. 1454
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Which is the cash.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: whenever you buy a bottle or a can that have a Crv charge. It's like 5 cents or 10 15 cents, whatever it is. These 2 companies do the recycling, and so they we have one right here in Sebastopol. It's at 1,000 highway, 1 16 north. 1456
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And what what's happening is at the store. They are collecting billions of dollars of unredeemed bottles and cans from unredeemed bottles and cans. And they have this big fund, and it's managed by Cal recycle. And basically other agencies borrow from it.
1457
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So this is so when you put these types of cans and bottles into the recycling.
1458
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: SCRR does not receive money for those redemptions.
1459
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: They recycle them, but they don't get the redemption value.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So you can go to. 1461
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Let's see, where is it? 1462
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: NorthBayRecycleZone.com, and they have a little video to show you how you can redeem any bottles and cans, so… 1463
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I thought, well, I'll try this, and then I realized we didn't really have that many to do. So really, it works in bulk, works best in bulk. But anyway, you can do this, and you can get a debit card from them, so you can redeem your bottles, get the debit card, and they'll put money on it for you. 1464
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and you can do it all on the computer. You don't have to have a cell phone to do it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's my report and anything else. 1466
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This meeting is adjourned. Thank you. Everybody. 1467
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: E.

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City Council Meeting - July 7, 2026
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I'M CALLING THIS MEETING
TO
ORDER ON JULY 7th AT 6:00.

THANK YOU.

SO I WILL TAKE ROLL CALL.

COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN.

PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTEN
IS

ATTENDING
REMOTELY.

PRESENT.

AND VICE MAYOR MAURER.

HERE.

AND WE DO HAVE A REMOTE

PARTICIPATION BY COUNCIL MEMBER

HINTON, AND THE COUNCIL WILL
WILL

NEED TO A VOTE FOR
PARTICIPATION.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON, DO YOU
WANT TO MAKE A YOUR STATEMENT?

SORRY, I'M HAVING A
FEW
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TECHNICAL GLITCHES HERE.

Agenda Item Number 1
HOLD ON A MINUTE.

YES, I'M LOOKING FOR
MY
STATEMENT.

I AM SO SORRY.

I AM -- I DON'T --

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO

MAKE AA

STATEMENT FOR
YOU?
YEAH.

I KNOW THAT I HAD IT HERE,
AND

I'M LOOKING AND I CAN'T FIND
IT
IN THE LINE-UP.

SO, YEAH, MARY, WOULD YOU
MIND

READING
IT?
SURE.

SO BECAUSE THIS IS A JUST CAUSE,

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON IS

LOGGING

IN REMOTELY DUE TO AN ILLNESS,
SO IT IS JUSTIFIED UNDER AB2449.

SHE IS DOING IT ROW
MOTLEY.

AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SHE

HAS NO ONE THAT IS UNDER THE AGE
OF 18, AND SHE CAN HEAR US
BY

AUDIO AND VISUAL, AND WE CAN
SEE

HER BY AUDIO AND VISUAL
AS WELL.

THAT IS CORRECT.

NO ONE UNDER THE AGE OF 18, AND

AUDIO AND
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VISUAL.

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SO THE COUNCIL WILL NEED TO

MAKE A MOTION TO DO REMOTE
PARTICIPATION.

A SECOND AND
VOTE.

SO
MOVED.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

SO SO MOVED BY VICE MAYOR
MAURER.

SECONDED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER

ZOLLMAN TO APPROVE THE
JUST
CAUSE REMOTE PARTICIPATION.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER.

COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON.

AYE.

COUNCIL
MEMBER ZOLLMAN.VICE
MAYOR MAURER.

YES.IT PASSES IN SUPPORT,

AND VICE

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON IS
ABSENT TONIGHT.

PLEASE JOIN ME ININ

SALUTE TO
THE FLAG.

THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL

ACKNOWLEDGES WE LIVE AND WORK
IN

THE UNSEEDED HOMELANDS OF
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THE
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SOUTHERN POMO AND COAST MIWOK
PEOPLE.

WE PAY OUR RESPECT TO THE PAST,

PRESENT, AND

FUTURE GENERATIONS

OF THESE PEOPLES INCLUDING THE

FEDERATED INDIANS OF THE
GRATON
RANCHERIA.

AND NOW WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION

THAT WILL BE READ

BY COUNCIL
MEMBER CARTER.

ALL RIGHT, JULY 2026 AS PARKS
MAKE A LIFE BETTER MONTH.

THIS RESOLUTION RECOGNIZES
THE

IMPORTANCE OF EQUITABLE
ACCESS

TO LOCAL PARKS AND RECREATIONAL

TRAIL, OPEN SPACE AND

FACILITIES

FOR THE POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT
OF

ALL CALIFORNIANS AND THEIR
COMMUNITIES.

AND WHEREAS PARKS PROMOTES

PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH AND

WELLNESS AND CONNECTIVITY,
AND
WHEREAS -- I WAS GOING TO ADLIB

SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T THINK I
SHOULD
DO THAT.

WHEREAS PARKS AND

RECREATION

FOSTERS SOCIAL COHESIVENESS IN

COMMUNITIES BY CELEBRATING
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DIVERSITY, PROVIDING SPACES TO
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COME TOGETHER

PEACEFULLY,

MODELING COMPASSION,

PROMOTING

SOCIAL EQUITY, CONNECTING
SOCIAL

NETWORKS, AND ENSURING
ALL

PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO ITS
BENEFITS.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER

RESOLVED THAT THE MAYOR
JOE

LEWIS AND I HERE DO

PROCLAIM
JULY 2026 AS PARK MAKE LIFE
BETTER MONTH.

AND IF WE

HAVE ANY

REPRESENTATIVE OF
PARKS.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT
CAN
RECEIVE THIS?
VERY
GOOD.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

THANKS
SO MUCH.

DAVID ROBINSON.

I'M

THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR
SONOMA COUNTY REGIONAL PARKS.

PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU
THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU, MAYOR

AND COUNCIL

MEMBERS FOR RECOGNIZING JULY
AS
PARKS MAKES LIFE BETTER MONTH.

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EARLIER TODAY THE BOARD
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OF

SONOMA COUNTY

SUPERVISORS

ADOPTED A RESOLUTION

RECOGNIZING

PARKS MAKES LIFE BETTER MONTH,

AND IT'S WONDERFUL TO

SEE OUR

LOCAL GOVERNMENTS UNITING AND

CELEBRATING THE VALUE PARKS
BRINGS TO OUR COMMUNITIES.

THIS RECOGNITION IS

ESPECIALLY

MEANINGFUL TO ME BECAUSE I
GREW
UP HERE IN SEBASTOPOL.

SOME OF MY BEST

CHILDHOOD
MEMORIES WERE MADE AT OUR PARKS.

PLAYING BASEBALL BEHIND US
AND

SPENDING COUNTLESS HOURS AT
THE

RANCH FIELD WITH FRIENDS
AND
FAMILY.

THOSE EXPERIENCES SHAPED
WHO I

AM AND ULTIMATELY

LED ME TO A

CAREER IN PARKS, AND THAT'S
WHAT

THIS RESOLUTION
REALLY
CELEBRATES.

PARKS CREATES HEALTHY

COMMUNITIES, BRINGS PEOPLE

TOGETHER, CONNECTS US WITH

NATURE, AND CREATES A
PLACE

WHERE LIFELONG MEMORIES ARE
MADE.

IN MANY WAYS THAT'S WHAT
TODAY
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Agenda Item Number 1
IS ABOUT.

EARLIER TODAY THE SONOMA COUNTY

BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MADE
THE

MEASURE TO PLACE THE SUCCESSOR
TO MEASURE "M" IMPROVING
OUR

COUNTIES AND CITIES TO

INVEST IN

THE PARKS, TRAILS, AND
OPEN

SPACES THAT ENRICH OUR

COMMUNITIES AND CREATE

OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUTURE
GENERATIONS.

SO ON BEHALF OF SONOMA
COUNTY

REGIONAL PARKS, THANK YOU
FOR

YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND
YOUR
CONTINUED SUPPORT OF PARKS.

WE TRULY APPRECIATE
IT.

JUST COME ON UP AND SHAKE
OUR

HANDS AND --

AND THANK YOU FOR HOSTING
SOCCER.

YOU GOT IT.

SO ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS
OF
INTERESTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO
OUT
TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU,
VICE MAYOR.

SO THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR
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ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S
AGENDA.

IT IS A 20-MINUTE TIME LIMIT.

IT IS 2 MINUTES PER SPEAKER.

WE DO CHAMBERS FIRST AND THEN
GO
OUT TO ZOOM.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE
PUBLIC

THAT WOULD LIKE TO

MAKE A PUBLIC

COMMENT ON AN ITEM NOT ON THE

AGENDA, COME OUT TO THE
PUBLIC

FIRST AND GO OUT TO
ZOOM.

THANK YOU,
MARY.

IS THIS ON?

I WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC

COMMENT

IN GENERAL IN SUPPORT OF
PUBLIC
LIBRARIES.

JUST AS PUBLIC PARKS ARE

INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO EVERY

COMMUNITY, SO ARE PUBLIC

LIBRARIES, AND THAT'S ALL I WANT
TO
SAY.

I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE
THE

MANAGER AT SEBASTOPOL LIBRARY

FOR THREE YEARS, AND I'M
A

RETIRED LIBRARIAN NOW AND
STILL

VERY INTERESTED IN
PUBLIC
LIBRARIES.

I'VE WORKED IN THEM FOR OVER
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50 YEARS BEFORE I RETIRED.

OR

ACTUALLY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE

A STATEMENT WHICH IS FROM A
BOOK

CALLED CALLED KATE PALACES FOR
THE PEOPLE" HOW SOCIAL

INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HELP
FIGHT
THE DECLINE OF CIVIC LIFE.

LIBRARY SERVICE, BEDROCKS
OF
CIVIL SOCIETY.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT

INSTITUTIONS

LIKE LIBRARIES GET
THE
RECOGNITION THEY DESERVE.

THEY ARE ARE THE KINDS OF

PALACES WHERE THE --

THE KINDS

OF PLACES WHERE THE PUBLIC,

PRIVATE, AND

PHILANTHROPIC

SECTORS CAN WORK TOGETHER
TO

REACH FOR SOMETHING HIGHER
THAN
THE
BOTTOM LINE.

PUBLIC LIBRARIES ARE COMMONLY

REFERRED TO AS A THIRD PLACE,

NEITHER HOME
NOR WORKSPACE.

THESE PLACES ARE THE INFORMAL

SPACES THAT ARE OFTEN

MAINSTAYS

IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, PLACES
WHERE

BOTH RANDOM AND

INTENTIONAL

IN-PERSON RELATIONSHIPS
ARE
MADE.

AND PUBLIC LIBRARIES ARE FREE
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AND OPEN
TO ALL.

I DON'T WANT TO -- I KNOW
I'M
NOT PREACHING TO THE CHOIR.

I DON'T WANT TO BE, BUT I
WANTED

TO JUST GO ON RECORD AS
SAYING

I'M A SUPPORTER, AND I KNOW
WE

HAVE MANY SUPPORTERS OF
PUBLIC

LIBRARIES IN THIS ROOM RIGHT
NOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN, THANK YOU.

RIGHT, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

THE GRAND JURY IN THE

ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE
ARE IMPORTANT WATCHDOG GROUP.

THEY PROVIDE OVERSIGHT TO
MAKE

SURE THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIESAGENCIES
WITHIN THE LAW.

THEY ARE IMPORTANT CHECKS ON
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OUR
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CIVIC INSTITUTIONS.

THEY ARE CRITICAL REMEDIES
TO
KEEP OUR DEMOCRACY IN BALANCE.

CITIZEN OVERSIGHT HELPS CIVIC

INSTITUTION REMAIN WITHIN
THE

LAW AND CORRECT COURSE

WHEN THEY
VEER INTO ILLEGAL FUNCTION.

THE GRAND JURY FOUND THAT
THE

CITY WAS IN VIOLATION OF PROP
218.

THE GRAND JURY FOUND THAT
THE

ENTERPRISE FUNDS WERE

ENTITLED
TO $5.5 MILLION

IN RESTITUTION

FOR MISSALICATION OF RATEPAYER

MONEY, BUT ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT

COMMITTEE ALSO FOUND THAT
THE

CITY WAS -- IS IN VIOLATION
OF
PROP 218.

THE CITY HAS NOT TAKEN STEPS TO
CORRECT ITS PROP 218 VIOLATION

IN ITS CURRENT BUDGET, NOR
HAS

IT TAKEN ANY STEPS TO RESTORE
THE 350 --
$354 FOR EXCESSIVE

AND ILLEGAL ATTORNEYS FEES FOR
2024, 2025 AS IDENTIFIED BY THE
EFOC.

ALEX IS PRESENT AT EVERY

COUNCIL
MEETING.

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MINUTE
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INCREMENTS.

IF COUNCIL TRULY BELIEVES
THESE

EXPENSES ARE

LEGITIMATE, COUNCIL

MEMBERS SHOULD REQUEST INVOICES
THAT JUSTIFY THESE EXPENSES.

COUNCIL'S RUNNING A

UTILITY
DISTRICT.

DO THEY PAY HUGE BILLS

WITHOUT
SEEING THE INVOICES?

WATER AND SEWER RATE PAYERS
ARE
PAYING FOR 52% OF THIS
MEETING.

FOR COUNCIL TIME RATE PAYERS
ARE
PAYING 63% FOR CITY MANAGER.

LET'S WATCH AND SEE IF
THE
COUNCIL SPENDS 52% OF THEIR
TIME
TONIGHT ON WATER AND SEWER.

LET'S SEE IF THE CITY MANAGER
SPENDS 63% OF HER TIME ON
WATER
AND SEWER.

IF NOT, THEN WE ARE

WITNESSING
PROP 218 VIOLATIONS FOR CHARGES
THAT ARE NOT JUSTIFIED.

THAT'S TWO MINUTES
UNFORTUNATELY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

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I WILL COME BACK INTO

CHAMBERS,

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE HERE WITH A GROUP
OF

NEIGHBORS TO TALK ABOUT THE

SPEEDING PROBLEM ON PRESENT HILL
VALLEY -- PLEASANT HILL NORTH.

FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE
CITY

COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER
AND
STAFF FOR THE WORK YOU DO.

I WAS A MANAGER IN HELENA FOR
A

NUMBER OF YEARS, AND MY

PARTNER

WORKED WITH ME, SO WE KNOW THE

WORK YOU DO AND THE
THINGS
YOU'RE BALANCING.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

WE LOVE LIVING HERE.

IT'S A
WONDERFUL TIME.

THE COMMITMENT TO HOUSING
AND

COMMUNITY SPIRIT AND

COMMUNITY

FEEL IS WONDERFUL EAR, SO
WE
APPRECIATE IT.

WE REALLY DO.

BUT WE DO HAVE A SPEEDING

PROBLEM OVER ON PLEASANT HILL
NORTH.

WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT PEOPLE
TURN
ON AND ACCELERATE.

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AND WE'RE HAVING A

PROBLEM

GETTING OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAYS
AND

CONSIDER THINGS LIKE SPEED

TABLES, SPEED HUMPS, RUMBLE

STRIPS, TRAFFIC CALMING

MEASURES

ON THAT STREET TO HELP SLOW DOWN
TRAFFIC.

IT'S A PLACE WHERE THERE'S
A

SCHOOL ON ONE SIDE AND THEN
A
PARK.

THERE'S ALSO A SENIOR
LIVING
FACILITY.

PEOPLE WALK THEIR

DOGS, SO IT'S

QUITE BUSY AND ACTIVE, AND
FOLKS

USE IT AS A CUT-THROUGH FROM
THE

MARKETS AND THEN COMING
OFF
BODEGA

AVENUE, THEY'LL CUT

THROUGH THE LARGER

TRUCKS, THE
COMMERCIAL TRUCKS.

SO WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE
IT'S

ENFORCED SO THE

COMMERCIAL
TRAFFIC DOESN'T COME DOWN THERE.

SO WE'RE JUST HERE TO ASK
THIS

BE CONSIDERED TO BE PUT ON AN

AGENDA BECAUSE WE DO FEEL LIKE
IT'S A SAFETY MATTER.

WE'VE GOT THE KIDS ON THE
BICYCLES AS WELL IN THAT AREA.

AND SO WE THANK
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YOU FOR YOUR
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TIME, AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL
BE
ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT.

THE QUESTION IS SHOULD I SUBMIT
THIS PETITION HERE?

OR SHOULD WE MAIL IT IN OR
BRING
IT
IN?

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GIVE
IT
TO
MYSELF.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES, I CAN.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIME
SNR.

I
CAN.

GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC

COMMENT,
PLEASE.

SO ONE WOULD THINK THAT
THE

ESTABLISHMENT OF A

CITIZEN

OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR

WASTEWATER AND WATER AS
A

RESPONSE TO IDENTIFYING
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THROUGH
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A RATE STUDY THAT $750,000 IN A

SINGLE YEAR WAS MISCALCULATED
TO

THE GENERAL FUND FROM THE

ENTERPRISE FUNDS, FOLLOWED
BY

MONTHS OF INVESTIGATIVE

WORK BY

THAT COMMITTEE TO

PRODUCE

RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS BODY

ALONG WITH A GRAND JURY
REPORT

THAT VALIDATES THAT WORK

DONE BY

THAT BODY THAT THERE WOULD
BE
ACTION.

BUT INSTEAD WE HAVE

CONSISTENT

AND REPEATED NONACTION BY
THIS
COUNCIL AND BY THIS CITY.

THEY CONTINUE TO LEAN INTO
SOME

FORM OF AN ARGUMENT THAT THE

ALLOCATIONS THAT HAVE

HAPPENED

IN PRIOR YEARS WERE, QUOTE,
REASONABLE, RIGHT?

THIS REASONABLE MAN THEORY,

UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S

QUITE CLEAR

THE ALLOCATION IN RECENT YEARS
WAS UNREASONABLE.

AND ANYBODY LOOK AT THE
SHEER

VOLUME OF PERCENTAGES TO
THE

GENERAL FUND THAT ARE GOING FROM
ENTERPRISE ARE NOT REASONABLE.

SO MY ONLY

EXPECTATION AT THIS

POINT BECAUSE YOU FAILED TO
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AJENDIZE THIS ITEM

TONIGHT, YOU
HAVE A GRAND JURY RESPONSE.

YOU'VE INDICATED TO THE
PRESS

THAT YOUR GRAND JURY RESPONSE IS

NOT IN ANY WAY GOING TO MEET THE

RECOMMENDATIONS OF

THAT GRAND

JURY, THAT I THINK THE

STRATEGY

IS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A
CLASS
ACTION LAWSUIT.

AND THE REASON WHY YOU WANT
THAT

IS BECAUSE YOU CAN USE YOUR

INSURANCE COMPANY TO PAY OFF THETO THE RATE PAYERS,
AND
THEN YOU GET OFF SCOTFREE,
RIGHT?

AND THE ONLY THING WE'LL SEE IS

INCREASED INSURANCE COST IN
FUTURE YEARS.

IS THAT THE STRATEGY?
JUST GO ON AND TELL ME.

IS THAT THE
STRATEGY?

THANK YOU, KYLE, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME INTO CHAMBERS.

PLEASE.

I'M NAN WATERS, AND I
LIVE
SOUTH OF TOWN ON HIGHWAY 116.

I'VE LIVED IN SEBASTOPOL FOR
52 YEARS, AND DURING THE 52
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YEARS
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I'VE LIVED IN SEBASTOPOL,
THE

LIBRARY HAS BEEN ONE OF
THE

CENTERS OF COMMUNITY TO ME
AND

TO MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT
I
KNOW.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE

NOTICED THAT ISN'T THAN ON THE
AGENDA

IS THE NEED THAT THE

LIBRARY

FILLS FOR INEQUITIES IN
THE

COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF

PROVIDING

COMPUTERS AND PRINTERS
FOR

PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE THIS
KIND

OF INFRASTRUCTURE AT THEIR
HOMES

OR AVAILABLE TO THEM IN
OTHER

WAYS AS WELL AS OTHER

LIBRARY

PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE
AND

I ALSO KNOW THAT PEOPLE WILL

SAY, WELL, IT'S EASY TO
GET TO

OTHER BRANCHES OF THE

LIBRARY
USING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

BUT I COMMUTED BY
PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION FOR 17 YEARS,
AND

IT'S NOT EASY TO GET ANYWHERE BY

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION THROUGH
SEBASTOPOL.

THE ONLY AREAS ACCESSIBLE TO
US

WOULD BE CENTRAL,

FORESTVILLE

AND GUERNEVILLE, AND
THAT

INVOLVES ALMOST A HALF MILE
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WALK
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IN THE CASE OF CENTRALVILLE
AND
FORESTVILLE.

I ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO HAVE
THE

INFRASTRUCTURE WE NEED
TO

ADDRESS ININEQUITIES

PEOPLE ARE

NOW FACING IN THEIR INABILITY
TO

ACCESS COMPUTERS AND AND PROGRAMS
FROM
THE
LIBRARY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

I WILL GO OUT TO -- I'M
SORRY.

CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION?

BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TWO
AGENDA

ITEMS TONIGHT BUILDING WITH

BUILDING COMMENTS WHICH

INCLUDES
THE LIBRARY.

WE ALSO HAVE THE
MOLD
REMEDIATION ITEM.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT

THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
FOR

PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS NOT
ON

THE AGENDA, AND THESE ITEMS ARE

ON THE AGENDA, SO I JUST WANT
TO

CLARIFICATION FROM OUR CITY
MANAGER.

SO -- I'M SORRY, CAN
WE

ADDRESS -- WE'LL GO

AHEAD AND
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ADDRESS IT, THANK YOU.

Agenda Item Number 1
SO I'LL CHIME IN.

SO THE RELOCATION ITSELF OF
THE

LIBRARY IS NOT ON THE
ITEM

TONIGHT
AJENDIZED.

WHAT IS AJENDIZED IS A

DISCUSSION OF AN INFO ITEM
OF
BUILDING THE COMMENTS.

AND THEN ALSO THE CONTRACT
AWARD

FOR THE MOLD -- THE

CONTRACT

THAT WE DID AND THEN ALSO THE
REMEDIATION.

SO THE SPECIFIC DISCUSSION
OF

THE LIBRARY RELOCATION

NEEDS AND

THINGS LIKE THAT IS NOT ON THE

AGENDA, SO I WOULD GO AHEAD
AND

ALLOW THE PUBLIC

COMMENT RIGHT

NOW TO GO AHEAD AND

CONTINUE

WITH THAT, AND THEY CAN
ALSO

SPEAK DURING THOSE TWO OTHER

AGENDA ITEMS AS
WELL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO I WILL GO OUT.

CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?
YES, I
CAN.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE THE
TIME SNR.

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Agenda Item Number 1

IF I SCROLL

OVER, I CAN
PROBABLY SEE THE TIMER.

YES, I CAN SEE THE TIMER.

GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT, PLEASE.

I WANT TO COMMEND NAN
WATERS

WHO SPOKE TO THE ISSUE I WANT TO
SPEAK TO.

OUR LIBRARY IS ONE OF THE
MOST

FREQUENTED LIBRARIES

OF ANY IN
THE SYSTEM.

AND WHAT I WANT TO

TALK ABOUT

ARE THE NEED FOR THE ACCESS

COMPUTERS NOT IN A GENERALIZED

AMUSEMENT WAY, BUT COMPUTERS ARE

USED BY PEOPLE THESE
DAYS

EXCLUSIVELY TO LOOK FOR JOBS AND
TO LOOK FOR HOUSING.

AND SO TO HAVE THAT

INACCESSIBLE

TO PEOPLE IS AN ENORMOUS
DEPRIVATION.

THAT IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THE

LIBRARY IS AN

ENORMOUSLY

IMPORTANT COMMUNITY HUB FOR ALL
OF US WHO LIVE HERE.

BUT I REALLY AM CONCERNED AS NAN

IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE UNEQUALLY

REPRESENTED IN THE
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MEETING
Agenda Item Number 1
TONIGHT.

AND SO I WANT TO URGE YOU
TO

PLEASE FIND A WAY TO CREATE
A

TEMPORARY LIBRARY IN OUR
TOWN

WHILE THE MOLD SITUATION
IS
BEING REMEDIATED.

THANK
YOU.

THANK YOU, DENA, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

HELLO.

I'M ISAAC WITH ECO GREEN.

WE ARE TRADE PROFESSIONALS WITH
PG&E.

YOU GUYS ALREADY PAY INTO
THE

PROGRAM EVERY MONTH UNDER
THE

PUBLIC PURPOSE PROGRAM

PORTION
OF YOUR UTILITY BILL.

THIS CAN TARGET LED LIGHTING,

HVAC, AND OTHER EFFICIENCY
PROJECTS.

I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A

COMMITMENT

TODAY, BUT I WANTED TO START
THE

CONVERSATION OR INTRODUCE

OURSELVES SO THAT WE CAN
FIGURE

OUT WHO TO DIRECT THIS

INFORMATION TO, AS IT'S
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A
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FUNDING PORTAL THAT
CAN

ESSENTIALLY HELP YOU GUYS
TACKLE

DEFERRED MAINTENANCE

WITHOUT

UTILIZING ANY FUNDING

THAT YOU
HAVE FOR OTHER MEASURES.

SO I JUST WANT TO LEAVE SOME

BUSINESS CARDS AND GET OUR
NAME
OUT THERE.

THAT'S
IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND

JUST LEAVE

THEM AT THE END OF THE
TABLE

RIGHT HERE, AND WE'LL MAKE
SURE
THEY GET IT.

NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

ROBERTA, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?
THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE
THE TIMER?
YES, I CAN.

THANK
YOU.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

YEAH, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT
FIRST ON THE NUMBER 29 BUS
THAT
I ADVOCATED FOR AND EMAILED

BACK AND FORTH WITH
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I
SANDRA

MAURER FOR A COUPLE -- FEW
MONTHS.

AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE
PART
OF THE BUDGET FOR HER.

THANK HER FOR CONSIDERING IT.

IT'S STILL AN IMPORTANT BUS LINE

THAT GOES FROM SANTA
ROSA

THROUGH SEBASTOPOL AND
THE

BURBANK SENIOR COMMUNITY OUT
TO

THE COAST TO BODEGA,
TO

IMPORTANT RECREATIONAL

POSSIBILITIES FOR SENIORS IN

PARTICULAR, BUT EVERYBODY
WHO
DOES NOT HAVE A VEHICLE.

I AM A HUGE SUPPORTER OF, AS I
SAID, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

AND WE'RE VERY LIMITED,
AS

ANOTHER SPEAKER NOTED AND I

BELIEVE HER NAME WAS IN
THIS
TOWN AND THIS COUNTY.

BUT PARTICULARLY FOR

SEBASTOPOL
29 BUSES USED TO RUN ON
THE

WEEKENDS THROUGH THE SUMMER
A

LONG TIME BEFORE IT WAS

REMOVED
DURING COVID.

AND I HAVE WRITTEN
TO THE

TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY SEVERAL
TIMES.

I ACTUALLY HAVE GOTTEN VERY
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Agenda Item Number 1
LIMITED RESPONSE.

I'M VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THIS.

I THINK THAT THERE'S A NUMBER
OF

PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY

DISAPPOINTED

THAT WE HAVE NO WAY TO GET TO
THE COAST.

RIDES ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO
GET
FROM OTHER SENIORS.

MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT DRIVING AT
THIS
TIME.

I'M JUST HOPEFUL THAT SOME
TIME

THIS CAN REALLY BE VIEWED ASAS
VERY ESSENTIAL POSSIBILITY.

AND I ALSO WANT TO SUPPORTSUPPORT

SPEAKERS WHO SPOKE ABOUT THE
LIBRARY.

IT IS MY MOST IMPORTANT PLACE
IN

SEBASTOPOL THAT I

GO TO OUTSIDE
OF --

ROBERTA, THAT'S TWO
MINUTES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR

YOUR PUBLIC

COMMENT, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY

I HAVE TWO SPEAKERS LEFT TO MEET
THE 20-MINUTE TIME LIMIT.

SO WE WILL COME INTO

CHAMBERS,

AND THEN OLIVER WILL BE THE
NEXT
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ONE, AND THAT WILL END PUBLIC
Agenda Item Number 1
COMMENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS -- AND I'VE
HAD
FAMILY IN SEBASTOPOL SINCE 1961.

I'VE BEEN GOING TO
THE

SEBASTOPOL LIBRARY FOR
50 YEARS
SINCE I WAS A LITTLE GIRL.

AND I JUST WANT TO

AFFIRM WHAT
OTHERS HAVE SAID.

THIS IS AN ABSOLUTELY

CRUCIAL

CULTURAL AND EDUCATION AND

COMMUNITY HUB IN SEBASTOPOL IN

OUR SMALL TOWN, AND IT
ALSO

GIVES EQUAL ACCESS ACROSS LAYERS

AND LAYERS OF PROFOUND

COMMUNITY, AND MANY OF US USE IT
FOR WORK AND GRAD SCHOOL.

AND MY SPECIFIC COMMENT FOR
THIS

COUNCIL IS THAT I'M
VERY

CONCERNED THERE'S BEEN NO
PUBLIC

FACING INFORMATION ABOUT
WHAT'S

HAPPENING WITH OUR LIBRARY
FOR
OVER A MONTH.

AND WHEN I WENT

INTO THE CITY

COUNCIL OFFICE, I SPOKE
WITH

YOUR WONDERFUL ADMINISTRATIVE
ASSISTANT.

SHE WAS VERY
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I

KIND, BUT SHE HAD
NO INFORMATION FOR ME.

AND SO I GOT THE

INFORMATION

FROM THE BUILDING GUY, WHO

REMEMBER HIS NAME IS STEVE,
AND

HE CALLED ME AND LEFT ME QUITE
A
DEFENSIVE MESSAGE.

LIKE, THAT IS NOT HELPFUL TO
THE
PROJECT OF WHAT WE ARE DOING AS A COMMUNITY.

AND I HAD A GREAT

CONVERSATION WITH

ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS

CHAMBER BEFORE WE

BEGAN, AND

WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT
THE

COMMUNITY -- THERE ARE

THOUSANDS

OF PATRONS THAT ARE MISSING THIS

LIBRARY, AND WE ARE NOT

LOOKING
FOR DEFINITIVE INFORMATION.

WE KNOW YOU'RE IN A
REALLY

COMPLEX PROCESS AND
YOU'RE
JUGGLING ELEPHANTS.

WHAT WE WANT IS INFORMATION

ABOUT THE PROCESS YOU'RE IN
AND

TO BE ASSURED THAT YOU CARE
AND

THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
THIS

LIBRARY IS ESSENTIAL FOR
THIS
SMALL TOWN.

AND PUBLIC TRANSIT -- I WORK
IN

MENTAL HEALTH AND HOMELESS
SERVICES.

I HAVE FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.

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PUBLIC TRANSIT IS

PROFOUNDLY

DIFFICULT IN THIS COUNTY AND

ESPECIALLY FOR THE
MOST
VULNERABLE AMONG US.

SO TO HAVE ACCESS TO A

LIBRARY

WITHIN OUR SMALL TOWN
IS
CRUCIAL.

SO PLEASE START GIVING
THE

PUBLIC INFORMATION ABOUT
WHAT

YOU'RE DOING, AND IF THERE
HAD

BEEN MORE INFORMATION --

THAT'S TWO
MINUTES.
-- THERE WOULD BE A HUNDRED

OF US TALKING ABOUT IN
THIS

LIBRARY IF WE HAD NONE,
THANKS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC

COMMENT, AND I WILL GO
OUT TO
ZOOM FOR OLIVER.

I DO, VICE MAYOR, IF
YOU

WOULDN'T MIND AFTER PUBLIC

COMMENT, IF WE CAN GIVE
AN

UPDATE QUICKLY ON SOME STATUS OF

SOME EFFORTS MADE BY FOR THE
IALL BRAER.

OLIVER, IF YOU CAN UNMUTE

YOURSELF,
PLEASE.

UNMUTED, YEAH.

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CAN YOU SEE THE -- GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY
FOR

ANYBODY INTERESTED IN THE

OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, THE
NEXT

MEETING IN MY CALENDER AT
LEAST
IS MONDAY, JULY 20th AT 10:30.

TWO PEOPLE HAVE -- INCLUDING
ME

HAVE SAID, YES, THEY'RE
ATTENDING.

AND EIGHT PEOPLE

APPARENTLY

HAVEN'T ANSWERED YET, BUT THAT

WILL BE AN
IMPORTANT MEETING.

I'M ON THE ENTERPRISE FUND

OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE,
AND

PRIMARILY I'VE BEEN FOCUSED
ON

INFRASTRUCTURE RATHER
THAN
FINANCIAL SIDE OF IT.

BUT I THINK THIS MEETING WILL
BE

ADDRESSING SOME OF THE

CONCERNS

AND POSSIBLY SOME OF THE
WILDER

THEORIES

THAT HAVE BEEN FLOATING
AROUND THIS EVENING.

SO THAT'S MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, OLIVER, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

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AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE
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THE

PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR ITEMS
NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SO WE'LL MOVE ONTO THE

CONSENT
CALENDER.

I'M SORRY, COULD I JUST DO A

REALLY QUICK RECAP ON THE
LIBRARY ITEMS THEMSELVES?

SO AS YOU'LL SEE

LATER ON

TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA WE DO
HAVE

A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE

CONTRACT

FOR THE MOLD REMOVAL THAT WE'VE
DONE ALREADY.

WE HAVE A CONTRACT COMING

FORWARD AND NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT
FOR THE REMEDIATION PROCESS.

THAT IS NOT RECONSTRUCTION.

THAT IS REMEDIATION.

CITY STAFF AND I

HAVE BEEN

WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TRYING
TO FIND LOCATIONS.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH

OUR COUNCIL

MEMBER LIAISON AND THE

ALTERNATE

TO ALSO TRY TO FIND OTHER
LOCATIONS.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE

COMMUNITY

CENTER RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF WE

COULDN'T HAVE THE HOLD PICK
UP
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HERE.

Agenda Item Number 1

WE HAD THE BUS THAT WILL
BE

COMING HERE TWO DAYS
A WEEK.AND

ERICA, IF THERE IS ANYTHING

I'M SAYING WRONG, PLEASE

CORRECT
ME.

WE HAVE
THAT SCHEDULED.

ONCE WE CAN GET THAT DONE AND
WE

HAVE CONFIRMATION FROM
THE
COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT WORKS.

IF NOT, I WILL ALSO BE

REACHING

OUT TO LOCAL

BUSINESSES THAT

WILL BE REACHING OUT TO
CHURCHES.

I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO
OTHER

VACANT BUILDINGS, OUR

REALITIES

TO SEE IF THERE'S LOCATIONS
IN
TOWN WE CAN USE.

SO THAT'S JUST A QUICK
RECAP,

BUT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE

ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO
FIND

LOCATIONS AND WORKING WITH
THE

LIBRARY TO DO
THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO WE'LL MOVE ONTO THE

CONSENT
CALENDER.

AND WE HAVE APPROVAL
OF SIX
DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS
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COUNCIL
Agenda Item Number 1

MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR

MEETING

OF JUNE
16th.

COUNCIL MINUTES FOR THE SPECIAL
CITY COUNCIL MEETING JUNE 29th.

THE TASK ORDER, NUMBER 6,
WITH

MOE ENGINEERING TO

PROVIDE

ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE
'26, '27
FISCAL YEAR.

THE APPROVAL OF THE
JOB
DESCRIPTION FOR CITY CLERK.

AND TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO

SIGN A LETTER OF SUPPORT IN USE

OF THE CITY LOGO REGARDING THE

CIRA OR CALIFORNIA

INTERGOVERNMENTAL
RISK
AUTHORITY.

AND APPROVAL OF

CONSULTANT

SERVICES WITH FOUR LEAF PLANNING

SERVICES FOR A SPECIFIC SCOPE
OF
WORK.

SO DOES ANYONE WANT

TO REMOVE
ANY OF THESE ITEMS?

OKAY, SO THEN WE'LL GO OUT
TO
PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR

CONSENT CALENDER ITEMS

THAT WERE
JUST READ.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT, AGAIN IT'S A TWO- Agenda Item Number 1
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MINUTE
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TIME LIMIT.

I WILL COME TO CHAMBERS FIRST
AND THEN GO OUT.

PLEASE?
HI, A QUICK QUESTION.

SO I'M REQUESTING THAT ITEM 6
BE

REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT
CALENDERS.

SO WILL I HAVE TIME TO
SPEAK
THEN?

IF I WILL, I DON'T NEED TO
SPEAK
NOW.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

NO, NO, THAT'S

ASSUMING IT
WOULD GET PULLED.

IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR
PUBLIC

COMMENT
RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE RECEIVED YOUR REQUEST
AND

A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HAS
ASKED
TO REMOVE THAT ITEM.

IT WILL BE UP TO THE CITY
COUNCIL TO DETERMINE THAT.

PLEASE GO AHEAD WITH YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

STEVEN, CAN WE PUT
PUBLIC
COMMENT BACK TO TWO MINUTES?
THERE WE GO.

THANK
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YOU.

Agenda Item Number 1

THANK YOU, COUNCIL

MEMBERS,
FOR THIS TIME.

MY NAME IS KATEY, AND I'M
A

SEBASTOPOL RESIDENT, AND
I'VE

SUBMITTED A LETTER FOR THE

RECORD, SO I'M NOT GOING
TO
REPEAT ALL OF THAT TONIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND

THE NEED FOR

INTERIM PLANNING SERVICES WHILE

THE CITY CONDUCTS THE
RFP
PROCESS.

MY CONCERN IS ENSURING
THAT

CONSULTANT PLANNERS
REMAIN

CONNECT TODAY THE COMMUNITY
AND

RESPONSIVE TO RESIDENTS MOST

AFFECTED BY

DEVELOPMENT
PROPOSALS.

RECENT DISCUSSIONS INCLUDE THE

FORMER LDS PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED

AND THE IMPORTANCE

OF OFLOCAL

KNOWLEDGE, NEIGHBORHOOD

COMPATIBILITY, TRAFFIC
AND

PEDESTRIAN SAFETY INCLUDING

EMERGENCY EVACUATION

CONCERNS,

ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, WATER
AND

SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE

CAPACITY,

AND MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT.

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I WOULD ASK THE CITY RELIES ON
CONSULTING PLANNING SERVICES.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I HOPE THE COMMUNITY INPUT

WILL REMAIN AN ESSENTIAL PART OF
THE PLANNING PROCESS.

I WOULD APPRECIATE UNDERSTANDING

ON HOW WILL CONSULTANT

PARTNERS

REMAIN RESPONSIVE
TO

NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS AND LOCALLOCAL

CONDITIONS, ON HOW RESIDENTS

WILL BE INFORMED OF AND INVOLVED
IN THE SELECTION OF LONGTERM

PLANNING SERVICES AND

PROVIDERS,

AND WHAT MEASURES WILL BE TAKEN

TO PRESERVE LOCAL KNOWLEDGE AND

COMMUNITY TRUST DURING THIS
TRANSITION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM FOR THE
CONSENT CALENDER.

KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES, I CAN.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU STILL SEE
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THE TIMER?
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YES, I
CAN.

GREAT.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

JUST TO ADDRESS THE

COUNCIL

IN RESPONSE TO THE PRIOR
SPEAKER, THE ANSWER IS NO.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY --

AND THE IDEA WHEN WE GO OUT
TOTO

CONSULTANTS, THAT THEY
ARE

GOING TO DO ANYTHING BEYOND
WHAT

THEY ARE BEING ASKED TO DO
AS

PART OF THE CONSULTING

CONTRACT,

IT'S -- IT'S NOT SOMETHING
THAT
YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO HAPPEN.

SBABS SHOULD BE

CAREFUL

ENDORSING TORT REFORM WHILE ALSO
LOOKING INWARD.

IN RECENT YEARS THE CITY
HAS

FACED LITIGATION AND
LEGAL

CHALLENGES INVOLVING

VEHICLE

DWELLER PARKING ORDINANCE,
THE

CALLAHAN DIABETIC TASER

INCIDENT, THE BROWN ACT CURE
AND
CORRECT ISSUE.

THESE

EXAMPLES RAISE A LOCAL
RISK
MANAGEMENT QUESTION.

ARE WE TRYING TO
REDUCE
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LIABILITY BY LIMITING CLAIMS OR
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PREVENTING HARM IN THE
FIRST
PLACE?

BEFORE AUTHORIZING CITY LOGO FOR

LOBBYING FOR THIS COALITION, I

REALLY WANT TO ASK COUNCIL
TO

REQUIRE A PUBLIC REVIEWAL --
AGAIN, LET ME REPEAT THAT.

A PUBLIC REVIEW OF RECENT

CLAIMS, SETTLEMENTS,

IMPACTS,

POLICY CHANGES, AND TRAINING
REFORM.

IF YOU THINK THAT YOUR
TRACK

RECORD IS GOOD IN COMPARISON TO

THE REST OF THE MEMBERS OF YOUR

INSURANCE GROUP, THEN GO
AHEAD,

DO THE PUBLIC -- DO A PUBLIC

TRANSPARENT LOOK AT IT BECAUSE
I

SUSPECT THAT BASED
ON THE

INSURANCE CLAIMS, WE'RE TALKING

ABOUT A PHISHING SCHEME
THAT

ENDED UP LOSING OVER A

MILLION
DOLLARS IN PROPERTY TASK.

WHO PAID IT?
OR INSURANCE COMPANY PAID IT.

A

NUMBER OF THESE THINGS HAVE
HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS.

LET'S LAY OUT THE DIRTY

LAUNDRY

AND SEE HOW WELL WE'RE

ACTUALLYACTUALLY
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DOING
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--
THANK YOU, KYLE.

THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN PUBLIC

COMMENT THAT WOULD LIKE

TO MAKE

A COMMENT ON THE CONSENT

CALENDER, PLEASE COME UP TO
THE
PODIUM.

SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT
TO
ZOOM.

IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM
THAT

WOULD MAKE A

PUBLIC COMMENT ON

THE CONSENT CALENDER
ITEM,

PLEASE RAISE

YOUR HAND
VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT
IS

CLOSED ON CONSENT CALENDER
ITEMS.

OKAY, BRINGING IT BACK TO THE

DIAS, DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE
A

CHANGE OR
A MOTION?

I'LL MAKE
A MOTION.

I'LL SECOND.

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THANK YOU.

SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER

ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED

BY COUNCIL

MEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE CONSENT
CALENDER ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON.

AYE.

COUNCIL
MEMBER ZOLLMAN.

YES.

VICE MAYOR
MAURER.

YES.

MAYOR McLEWIS IS ABSENT,
SO
IT PASSES 4-1 AND MAYOR
McLEWIS
IS
ABSENT.

I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE THE

BRIEF COMMENT THAT OUR

PLANNING

CONSULTANT IS ACTUALLY LOCAL
AND
WAS A FORMER PLANNING DIRECTOR.

THANK YOU, AND I'LL ADD TO
THAT.

THEY'VE BEEN

WORKING WITH US FOR

ACTUALLY MUCH -- FOR THE PAST
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YEAR, BUT THEY WERE ACTUALLY
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NOT

CONSULTANT BUT ACTUALLY
HIRES

HERE FOR A LONG
TIME.

AND I WILL ALSO ADD TO
THAT

THAT WE HAVE JUST RECEIVED THE
RFPs FOR

THE CONSULTANT
SERVICES.

THOSE CAME IN YESTERDAY.

WE RECEIVED THREE.

ONE OF THEM DID NOT QUALIFY,
SO
WE WILL BE REVIEWING THE TWO.

WE WILL BE INTERVIEWING

THEM AND

THEN BRINGING THOSE BACK TO
THE

CITY COUNCIL HERE FOR

DISCUSSION
AND
CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE THE FIRST ITEM IS THE

THE THIRD QUARTERLY UPDATE FROM
BUILDING THE COMMENTS COMMITTEE.

I'LL TAKE THAT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

TONIGHT'S ITEM IS THE
THIRD

QUARTERLY UPDATE FOR

BUILDING
THE
COMMENTS COMMITTEE.

THE COMMITTEE CONTINUES
TO

EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY
OF

CREATING A SHARED

COMMUNITY

FACILITY THAT CAN SHARE A
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Agenda Item Number 1

VARIETY OF SIEVING,

EDUCATIONAL,

AND COMMUNITY NEEDS

THROUGHOUT
SEBASTOPOL AND WEST COUNTY.

THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT

SUBCOMMITTEE HAS SPENT THE LAST

SEVERAL MONTHS CONDUCTING

STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS
WITH

LOCAL NONPROFITS,

COMMUNITY

ORGANIZATIONS, SERVICE

PROVIDERS, AND CIVIC
ORGANIZATIONS.

ORGANIZATIONS HAVE REPEATEDLY

IDENTIFIED A NEED FOR CLASSROOM

STORAGE, COMMUNITY KITCHENS,
AND

ACCESSIBILITY

IMPROVEMENTS AND

OPPORTUNITIES TO
SHARE
RESOURCES.

THE INTERVIEWS ALSO REVEALED
A

STRONG INTEREST IN A COMMON

CONCEPT THAT

WOULD ALLOW

ORGANIZATIONS TO

COLLABORATE,

SHARE COST, INCREASE VISIBILITY

OF PROVIDED SERVICES AND BE MORE
MORE
FFICIENT.

THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S FOCUS
WILL

NOW SHIFT FROM

INTERVIEWS TO

COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND
PUBLIC

ENGAGEMENT AS THE PROJECT MOVES
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FORWARD.

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ADDITIONALLY, THE

FUNDING

ASSESSMENT SUBCOMMITTEE
HAS

FOCUSED ON EVALUATING

POTENTIAL

LOCATION, FACILITY NEEDS, AND

LONG-TERM FINANCIAL
CONSIDERATIONS.

AFTER REVIEWING MULTIPLE

ALTERNATIVES, THE COMMITTEE
HAS

NARROWED ITS EVALUATIONS TO
TWO
PRIMARY CONCEPTS.

THE FIRST IS THE O'REILLY

PROPERTY ON HIGHWAY NORTH,
AND

THE SECOND IS THE

REDEVELOPMENT

OF CITY OWNED PROPERTIES
WITHIN
THE CIVIC CENTER.

THIS SUBCOMMITTEE HAS
BEGUN

DEVELOPING A HIGH
LEVEL

FINANCIAL FRAMEWORK FOR
THE
PROJECT.

THIS IS THE FOCUS WHICH IS
BOTH

ON CONSTRUCTION COST
AND

ANALYSIS OF LONG-TERM COST
COST

ASSOCIATED
WITH

MAINTAINING AND UPGRADING

EXISTING AND

POTENTIAL
FACILITIES.

AT THIS STAGE DETAILED COST

ESTIMATES HAVE NOT BEEN
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DEVELOPED.

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HOWEVER, THE COMMITTEE

REFINING

ASSUMPTIONS AND LOOKING
FOR
POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES.

AT THIS TIME THE COMMITTEE
IS

SEEKING COUNCIL FEEDBACK ON
THE

TWO PRIMARY LOCATION CONCEPTS

CURRENTLY UNDER EVALUATION
AND

THE NEXT STEPS FOR COMMUNITY
OUTREACH.

THIS

CONCLUDES MY BRIEF REPORT, AND

STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR

QUESTIONS, AND I'LL TURN IT
OVER

TO THE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS
THAT

SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE TO
SHARE

ADDITIONAL
THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU.

YES, I

WANT TO FIRST SAY THANK

YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL OF
THE

COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT
HAVE

DEDICATED A LOT

OF THEIR TIME

AND EFFORT TO BE ON THIS
BUILDING THE COMMENTS COMMITTEE.

A LOT OF EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT
FORTH.

AND KIND OF MIMICKING MY

PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE WE ARE,
AND

IT HAS BEEN REFLECTED IN
THE

PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT
WERE
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RECEIVED FOR BOTH OF THESE
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AGENDA ITEMS.

WE HAVE LONG-STANDING --
HAVE

HAD A LONG-STANDING SPACE ISSUE

FOR A LOT OF OUR VITAL SERVICES

HERE IN
THE CITY.

THE SENIOR CENTER, WE HAVE HEARD

THEY DON'T HAVE SPACE, AND THEY
ARE DESPERATELY NEEDING IT.

THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN A FLOOD
ZONE.

OUR HEALTH ACTION IS WITHOUT A
BUILDING.

I THINK THAT THE MOLD CRISIS,

AGAIN, AS HAS BEEN STATED IN THE

PUBLIC COMMENTS, HAS NOW PUT AN

EXTRA URGENT LIGHT ON WHAT ARE
WE DOING.

WHAT ARE WE DOING AS A COMMUNITY

TO TRY TO ANSWER ALL OF THESE
NEEDS FOR THESE SPACES?

I THINK THAT WISELY THE

MEMBERS

OF THE BUILDING THE

COMMENTS

COMMITTEE HAS PUT FORTH TWO

ALTERNATIVES, AND I'M
REALLY

HOPING THAT MY FELLOW

COLLEAGUES

WILL WEIGH IN

AND GRANT THE

REQUEST FOR THERE TO BE ONWARD

MOVEMENT TOWARDS CONTINUING TO
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EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS.

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WE HAVE HEARD LONG AND WE HAVE

RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENT AROUND

THE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO
KEEP

THE BUILDING HERE WHERE
IT
CURRENTLY IS.

THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER
IS WE
DON'T KNOW.

AND WHAT THE ITEM ON THE
AGENDA

IS LATER, THERE'S GOING TO
BE

REQUEST FOR ALMOST A

QUARTER

MILLION DOLLARS TO FIX
A

BUILDING THAT EVEN THE

LIBRARY

HAS IDENTIFIED THE FACT IT'S NOT
BIG ENOUGH.

SO WHY?
WHY DO THAT?

QUITE HONESTLY I HAVE

CONCERNS

ABOUT OUR
CITY HALL.

OUR CITY HALL WAS BUILT WITH
THE
SAME ARCHITECTURE.

SO IF THE LIBRARY'S GOING TO
BE

A TEARDOWN OR COULD BE A

TEARDOWN AND CITY HALL

IS GOING
TO BE A TEARDOWN?
WHAT IS GOING TO BE OUR ANSWER?

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I
THINK

THAT THE

O'REILLY HAS BEEN

BROUGHT UP, AND I'M JUST
ASKING
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THE COMMUNITY TO LISTEN TO THE
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COMMENTS FROM THEIR
FELLOW

COLLEAGUES AND CONTINUE TO SHARE

YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS AS WE MOVE
FORWARD.

THE NEXT MEETING IS A WEEK
FROM

THIS MONDAY WHERE WE'RE

ACTUALLY

GOING TO BE HEARING FROM
THE

FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE AND

COUNCIL

MEMBER CARTER DOESN'T CHAIR, BUT
HE
SITS ON.

SO I'M GOING TO

STOP TALKING

THERE AND TURN IT OVER TO

COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER.

I JUST WANT TO RESTATE
THE

OBVIOUS -- THAT WHEN I
FIRST

STARTED -- THEY'VE BEEN THINKING

ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME,
BUT

WHEN I CAME ONTO IT, IT WAS
WITH

THE IDEA WE WOULD BE

PROACTIVE

IN LOOKING FOR A SPACE
AND

THINKING ABOUT

IT IN A SYSTEMS

WAY AND IN A WAY THAT WOULD BE

THE MOST FINANCIALLY PRUDENT
AND
ACTIONABLE.

THIS RECENT, YOU KNOW,
MOLD

INCIDENT KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS
THE

URGENCY TO GO FORWARD WITH
SOME
OF THIS PLANNING.

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SO IT'S BECOMING A LITTLE LESS

PROACTIVE AND A LITTLE BIT MORE
REACTIVE.

HOWEVER, WE'VE DONE SO MUCH

WORK, I THINK WE'RE IN A
GOOD
PLACE.

ADDITIONALLY, I WANT TO
TELL

EVERYBODY THAT WE'VE KNOCKED OUT

QUITE A FEW PLACES THAT WE
GET
EMAILS ABOUT.

WE'VE LOOKED AT -- BECAUSE
THE

RITE AID IS IN THE

SITUATION

THAT IT IS, YOU KNOW,

LEGALLY
BOUND AND IT'S NOT OURS.

AND IT COULD BE -- YOU
KNOW,

IT'S NOT VIABLE FOR THE CITY
TO
LOOK AT.

THE SAME IS TRUE WITH THE OLD

CVS PLACE BECAUSE IT'S

INVEST-OWNED, THEY ARE

SEEKING

THINGS THAT AREN'T FINANCIALLY

REASONABLE FOR THE CITY TO

PURSUE, WE'VE KIND OF KNOCKED
THAT OUT.

BUT IN THE SWAT ANALYSIS OR ININ

EARLY DAYS WE CAN SEE THE

PROPERTIES WE WENT THROUGH
AND

WE NORMALIZED FOR

OPERATIONAL
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EFFICIENCY AND WHAT WE CAN DO.

Agenda Item Number 1

AND THE NEXT TWO THINGS
THAT

WE'LL SEE -- IT'S

ACTUALLY
THREE.

IT'S DO NOTHING, BAND-AID
WHAT

WE HAVE -- BLESS YOU -- AND

CONTINUE TO PAY, WHICH HAS
A
SIGNIFICANT COST.

THE COMMUNITY CENTER WILL HAVE A
COST.

REPAIRING THE LIBRARY
ITSELF

WILL HAVE TREMENDOUS COSTS,
MUCH

MORE COSTS THAN WE

ACTUALLY
ANTICIPATE NOW.

THE CITY HALL HAS

COSTS, AND THE

SENIOR CENTER IS ACTIVELY
LOOKING FOR A NEW PLACE.

THEY'RE ALL LOOKING FOR
RENTAL

FACILITIES OUTSIDE OF THEIR
OWN

BECAUSE
THEY'RE GROWING.

THE LIBRARY IS -- I WOULD
SAY
THE CURRENTLY BUILDING'S AT 98%

UTILIZATION CAPACITY, SO IT
COULD DEFINITELY GROW.

AND WE'RE NOT EVEN ACCOMMODATING

SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR OUTER

AREAS LIKE OCCIDENTAL THAT WE
DO
SERVICE.

THOSE ARE CONSIDERATIONS IN OUR
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ANALYSIS, WHICH I THINK WILL
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COME FORWARD A LITTLE BIT LATER.

BUT I DO WANT EVERYBODY TO
KNOW

WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS IN A
VERY

REALISTIC, PRAGMATIC, AND

FUNCTIONAL WAY SO

THAT, YOU

KNOW, THESE ARE REAL SOLUTIONS

AND NOT JUST KIND OF WE HOPE
THAT THIS CAN HAPPEN.

THESE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS THAT

WE CAN, YOU KNOW, JUST -- WE

HAVE TO PUT THE PIECES

TOGETHER

AND WE CAN MAKE
HAPPEN.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS?
I MEAN, QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON,
DO YOU
HAVE A QUESTION?
NO, OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

MY QUESTION IS REGARDING THE

FACT THAT THE SONOMA
COUNTY

LIBRARY RECEIVES A TAX FOR THE
LIBRARIES.

AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY --
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE FUNDING.

SO I'M WONDERING HOW DO WE MOVE

FORWARD WITH GETTING A BIGGER,
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BETTER FACILITY?
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I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN ASKED
AND

THEY'RE NOT OFFERING,
MY
UNDERSTANDING.

SO THE CITY HAS A

STRUCTURAL
DEFICIT MOVING FORWARD.

WE HAVE SERIOUS

INFRASTRUCTURE

NEEDS LIKE BUILDING REPAIR,
ROADS, WATER, AND SEWER.

SO HOW DO WE MOVE -- HOW DO WE

JUSTIFY MOVING FORWARD WITH
A

MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR

BUILDING

WHEN WE HAVE ALL THESE
OTHER

NEEDS HERE, ESPECIALLY

CONSIDERING THAT THE
COUNTY
RECEIVES A TAX?

SO CAN YOU PLEASE HELP
ME

UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE I

JUST -- TO JUST TALK ABOUT
THE

BUILDINGS WITHOUT TALKING
ABOUT

THE FINANCING DOESN'T WORK FOR
ME.

THAT'S JUST TOO -- YOU KNOW, TOO
SEPARATE.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THAT IS PART OF IT, TOO.

THERE'S BEEN

A LOT OF

DISCUSSIONS WITHIN THE COMMITTEE

TO SET ASIDE OR TO ASK COUNCIL
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FOR ALEX'S TIME TO EVALUATE WHAT
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ARE OUR OPTION.

WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS
WITH

LIBRARY ADMINISTRATION,

WHICH IT
IS CORRECT.

THEY DO AND WE ALL HAVE PAID IN

TAXES, AND THEY DO HAVE -- IN
MY

PERCEPTION, THEY DO HAVE A
HEALTHY RESERVE.

WHAT CAN ALEX DO?

ABOUT THE MEASURE -- THE
OLD
MEASURE "Y" SLASH NEW MEASURE
"W," WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THAT?
SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS.

ALSO THERE WERE QUESTIONS
DURING

THE COMMITTEE ABOUT A

PUBLIC,

PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP,

AND THERE

WAS A REQUEST TO NOT HAVE ALEX

START LOOKING INTO THAT
UNTIL

AFTER NEXT MONDAY'S BUILDING THE

COMMENTS MEETING, BUT

THOSE ARE

THE QUESTIONS THAT I'M HOPING

THAT THE COUNCIL WILL

APPROVE

THE EXPLORATION OF THE
TWO

OPTIONS THAT WE PUT

FORWARD,

WHICH WOULD INCLUDE HAVING
ALEX
LOOK INTO THIS.

BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, I MEAN
AS

I'VE SAID PUBLICLY, WE HAVE
BEEN
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SUBSIDIZING WEST SONOMA
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COUNTY
FOR YEARS NOW.
100% WE HAVE BEEN WITH OUR POOL,

WITH OUR LIBRARIES, WITH OUR
ROADS.

SOMEONE ELSE NEEDS TO

STEP UP

BECAUSE WE AS A CITY WITH
A

LIMITED AMOUNT OF OPERATION
CAN'T FIX ALL THIS.

THAT WHAT WOULD WHAT I
HOPE

COUNCIL WILL AFFIRM

HAVING ALEX

WORK WITH US TO CONTINUE
TO

EXPLORE THESE TWO OPTIONS,
AND

TO YOUR

POINT, VICE MAYOR, THE
FUNDING BEHIND THE TWO OPTIONS.

SO THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE.

SO SITTING ON THE FINANCE

SIDE OF IT, I MEAN THIS IS
WHAT

WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THREE OR

FOUR MONTHS, AND WE HAVE MODELS

BUILT, AND WE HAVE SOURCES, YOU

KNOW, I THINK ACCUMULATING IT
TO

A STACK OF FINANCING THAT
WILL

BE VERY LOW-IMPACT ON OUR
GENERAL FUND.

AND IT'S POSSIBLE, SO I ASK
FOR

SOME GRACE UNTIL WE GET THIS

THROUGH FOR THE FULL

SUBCOMMITTEE, CREATING
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THE
Agenda Item Number 1

COMMENTS WILL LOOK AT THE MODELS

WE BUILT, BUT WE HAVE TO
GET
THEM

THROUGH THAT COMMITTEE
BEFORE WE CAN TAKE THEM PUBLIC.

BUT I HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF

CONFIDENCE WE'RE GOING TO
BE

ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT

ESPECIALLY

IF -- OKAY, DOING NOTHING
IS
GOING TO COST MONEY.

IT'S GOING TO COST A LOT OF
MONEY.

DOING SOMETHING MIGHT COST LESS

MONEY, AND IT'S JUST GOING TO

TAKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A MONTH OR

SO BEFORE I CAN SHOW IT WITH
THE
NUMBERS.

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE CVS
BUILDING?
YEAH.

AS I SAID, THEY'RE NOT OKAY.

WE CAN'T GO THROUGH
IT.

OKAY.

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THIS
BUILDING HERE?

RAISING IT UP OR REMODELING
THE
COMMUNITY CENTER BUILDING?

BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE ALL
THE
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OUTDOOR SPACE STILL.

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BESIDES THE FACT IT'S IN A

FLOOD ZONE AND IMPOSSIBLE
TO

RAISE, YEAH IT'LL COST --
WELL, YOU'D HAVE TO RAISE IT.

WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY --

THAT'S SO EXPENSIVE, I COULDN'T
EVEN IMAGINE DOING THAT.

WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE IF
YOU'RE

GOING TO TEARDOWN

BUILDINGS

DOWNTOWN IT COULDN'T BE ANYMORE

OR LESS EXPENSIVE THAN TEARING

THIS BUILDING DOWN OR RAISING IT
UP.

THIS BUILDING IS BASICALLY
IN

THE SAME LOCATION, IT'S JUST
A

LITTLE HIGHER SO IT

DOESN'T
FLOOD.

SO IF THAT BUILDING OR
THAT

LOCATION WAS RAISED UP, I
JUST

DON'T -- SO WHY AREN'T
YOU

LOOKING INTO
THAT?
WE HAVE.

AND, AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE WHEN I

DID, LIKE, A ROUGH ANALYSIS, YOU
KNOW,

DIGGING INTO THAT, TEARING

IT DOWN, AND REMOVING THAT AS
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A
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FACILITY FOR THE COMMUNITY IS

LESS VALUABLE THAN -- YOU
KNOW,

WE KIND OF NARROWED IT DOWN TO
REDOING THE LIBRARY AREA.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE AREAS WE
DID

LOOK OUT AND KNOCK OUT BECAUSE
IT'S FINANCIALLY UNFEASIBLE.

IT'S IN A FLOODPLAIN.

I THINK IT WOULD BE LIKE
15 YEARS BEFORE WE COULD EVEN DO
IT.

ARE THERE ANY
OTHER
QUESTIONS?

IF NOT, WE CAN GO OUT TO PUBLIC

COMMENT,
PLEASE.

THANK YOU, VICE
MAYOR.

I'M SORRY.

YES, COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON?
JUST
ONE SECOND.

I MEAN, MY QUESTION OR

FEEDBACK, I GUESS, FOR
THE

COMMITTEE IS WHEN YOU LOOK INTO

HOW ROSELYN GOT THEIRTHEIR NEW

LIBRARY, IT OBVIOUSLY WAS
A
VARIETY OF GRANTS.

I THINK EVEN GREAT RANCHERIA
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GAVE THEM SOME MONEY.

ARE WE LOOKING AT A

MULTI --

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FINANCE, IS

THE COMMITTEE LOOKING AT A

MULTIGROUP OF
FUNDING SOURCES?
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME 100
THAT

GIVE SOME MONEY TO

NONPROFITS,

AND MAYBE WE CONSIDER
THE
LIBRARY FOUNDATION.

I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT
THAT

BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE

ROSELYN LIBRARY AND HOW THEY GOT

THEIR MONEY, IT WAS
A

MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH, I GUESS,

I WOULD
SAY.

SO WE ARE ABSOLUTELY DOING
THAT.

AND THREE LEVELS DEEP ON THAT,

SO WE'RE EXPLORING ALL
THE

DIFFERENT GRANTS, ALL THE

DIFFERENT FINANCING STYLES, AND

WE'RE CREATING A STACK THAT IN

PLOTTING IT OUT OVER TIME,
SO

THAT IT FITS WHAT WE'RE CAPABLE
OF
DOING.

AND I CAN SAY THAT --

THANK YOU

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON, FOR
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THE QUESTION.

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THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE

STARTED TO DIVE IN WHICH WAS
HOW

ROSELYN
WAS SUCCESSFUL.

AND RAY HOLLY, THE FORMER

ADMINISTRATION'S PR
PERSON

ACTUALLY GAVE A
WHOLE
PRESENTATION ON ALL THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

WE ARE DEFINITELY TRYING TO

STEAL AND COPY THAT MODEL
BECAUSE IT OBVIOUSLY WORKED.

WE ALSO HAD NAOMI HUBERT
ON

BUILDING THE COMMENTS, AND
SHE

SITS ON THE LIBRARY FOUNDATION

BOARD, SO WE MADE STRATEGIC

CHOICES ABOUT -- LIMITED
ABOUT

THE STAFF AND TIME AND
ENERGY

AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO MAKE SURE

THAT WE PUT AS MANY OF THE

USEFUL PEOPLE -- MOST

USEFUL PEOPLE
ON
THE COMMENTS.

SO
THANKS.

OKAY, WE CAN GO OUT FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

SO THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR

THE INFORMATIONAL ITEM
ON
BUILDING THE COMMONS.

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IT IS A TWO-MINUTE PUBLIC
TIME
LIMIT.

AGAIN, WE DO CHAMBER FIRST
AND
GO OUT TO ZOOM.

SO IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE
CHAMBERS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER
PUBLIC COMMENT.

CAN'T
HEAR.

CAN YOU PUSH THE BUTTON?
IS IT ON?
I'M SORRY.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT
THE

FIRST BUILDING OF THE SEBASTOPOL

PUBLIC LIBRARY -- CARNEGIE
SAID

TO LIBRARIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY

I WILL GIVE YOU A GRANT IF
YOU
COME
UP WITH MATCHING FUNDS.

AND SO IN 1916 A LOCAL
BANKER

WAS ABLE TO -- SAID, YES,
LET'S
DO THAT AND DID GET LOCAL FUNDS.

SO THE BUILDING WAS BUILT WITH A
CARNEGIE GRANT AND LOCAL FUNDS.

THAT WAS A BUILDING THAT
SERVED

THIS COMMUNITY UP UNTIL
1975

WHEN THE -- WHEN MONEY
WAS

TAPPED FROM THE FEDERAL LIBRARY
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SERVICES ACT.

BUT THE JOINT SERVICES THAT
THE

LIBRARY COMMISSION

BASICALLY

RUNS OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM AND
HAS

A JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT
WITH

ALL THE CITIES WITHIN THE
COUNTY.

AND

THE CITIES ARE THE ENTITIES

THAT PROVIDE
THE BUILDINGS.

THE LIBRARY COMMISSION, THE

LIBRARY DEPARTMENT PROVIDES THE

SERVICES, THE BOOKS, THE
STAFF,
THE ENTIRE THING.

SO MEASURE "Y,"

SUBSEQUENT
MEASURE "W" ARE PROVIDING
FUNDS
TO THE LIBRARY.

IT WOULD BE GREAT, AND I'M GLAD

YOU'RE EXPLORING ALL THESE

POSSIBILITIES, BUT I THINK
WE

NEED TO KNOW HISTORICALLY
THE

LIBRARY HAS BEEN FUNDED BY THE
CITY SOMEHOW.

AND I'M APPRECIATING THAT YOU'RE
GOING THROUGH ALL THIS.

WE'RE NOT JUST THE LIBRARY
BUT

THE SENIOR CENTER AND NEW
CITY
HALL AND HEALTH SERVICES.

THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR
Agenda Item Number 1
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM
AND
COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS.

OLIVER, CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF,
PLEASE?

I'M UNMUTE

ASKED I CAN SEE
THE TIMER.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL

MEMBER ZOLLMAN, BECAUSE HE
SAID

THE IMPORTANT THING HERE, WHICH

IS NUMBER ONE WE DON'T HAVE
THE

MONEY TO
BE RUNNING THE LIBRARY.

AND WE ARE PROVIDING
ALL OF

THESE SERVICES FOR WEST
COUNTY.

WE'RE A TINY LITTLE CITY WITH A

VERY SHRINKING

REVENUE, AS
EVERYBODY KNOWS.

SOMETHING'S GOT TO GIVE
HERE,

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
THE

SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARY,
WHICH

WE -- I BELIEVE WE LEASE
THE
BUILDING TO THEM FOR $1 A YEAR.

AND THERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE REPAIRS
FOR

THAT BUILDING OR SOMEHOW

MANAGING TO MAGICALLY BUY
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EXPENSIVE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS
FOR A NEW LIBRARY.

NONE OF THIS IS GOING TO FLY.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY IN
A

MILLION YEARS, AND THE
COUNTY
NEEDS TO STEP UP.

I'VE SAID THIS MULTIPLE TIMES IN
PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING

AGAINST
THE LIBRARY.

I
THINK IT'S GREAT.

I LIKE THE COMMONS IDEA, BUT THE

SILTY JUST CANNOT CARRY
THIS

KIND OF GRANDIOSE PROJECT
WITH

THE REVENUE THAT WE HAVE
COMING
IN.

IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE.

SO SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE HERE.

AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE

WE'RE GOING TO GO HERE, BUT
I'M

NOT VERY CONFIDENT IN THE

EXPLORATIONS OF TRYING TO FIND
FUNDS.

I THINK THE COUNTY NEEDS TO
BE

PRESSURED SUBSTANTIALLY HERE
TO

STEP UP AND SORT THIS

SITUATION

OUT FOR WHAT IS BASICALLY THEIR
LIBRARY.

THANK
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YOU.

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THANK YOU, OLIVER, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MARY LOU SCHMIDT.

I'M A MEMBER OF

GRAVENSTEIN

HEALTH ACTION COALITION, WHICH A

SMALL VOLUNTEER NON-PROFIT
WHICH

SUPPORTS VARIOUS PROGRAMS
IN

SEBASTOPOL AND WEST COUNTY
AND

IS BASED ON THE STRUCTURE OF
SELF-HEALING COMMUNITY.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS
THE

COMMUNITY USES LOCAL LEADERS
TO
HELP SOLVE ITS PROBLEMS LOCALLY.

IN THAT REALM, I AM A MEMBER OF

THE COMMUNITY COMMONS

COMMITTEE,

AND I AM WORKING ON THAT BECAUSE

I CAN SEE THAT THE COMMONS

ITSELF CAN BE AN

ABSOLUTE
BENEFIT TO THIS COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE FAILING BUILDINGS, AND

IT REALLY IS UPSETTING

TO THINK

THAT WE HAVE TO PUT A
WHOLE

BUNCH OF MONEY INTO A BUILDING

THAT, ONE, HASN'T BEEN BIG
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ENOUGH FOR THREE YEARS.

I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS

PROJECT FOR THREE YEARS WITH
VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND SO THE LIBRARY ITSELF?

IS NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR THE
WORK
THAT THESE PEOPLE DO.

THE STAFF ARE CRAMPED.

YOU KNOW, THESE BUILDINGS ARE IN
A FLOOD ZONE.

WE KNOW THAT THE SENIOR CENTER
IS JUST AT -- JUST AT ITS LIMIT.

SO WITH ALL OF THIS HAPPENING

AND WITH THE -- AND WITH
THE

CITY BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR
ALL

THIS -- ALL THIS

PROPERTY,

THERE'S GOT TO BE A DIFFERENT
WAY.

I THINK THE COMMONS IS
A
DIFFERENT WAY.

I THINK THERE ARE BUILDINGS
THAT

WE CAN LOOK AT,

AND THE

POSSIBILITY OF GETTING MONEY
FOR

THAT, WE HAVE A GREAT -- THANK

YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER,
FOR

LEADING THAT COMMITTEE, WHICH
IS

LOOKING INTO AS MUCH MONEY AS WE
CAN GET.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN
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LEADING THOSE OF US WHO
ARE
TRYING TO GET COMMUNITY INPUT.

I WILL TELL YOU THE

COMMUNITY

INPUT TO ME IS PEOPLE WOULD
NOT

MIND GOING TO THE O'REILLY

CENTER AS LONG AS THERE WAS SOME

KIND OF TRANSPORTATION AVAILABLE
AND THERE WAS PARKING.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COMES
UP ALL
THE TIME.

MARY, THAT'S --
THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

LINDA, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?

YEAH, I THINK I'M KIND OF
GOING INTO HORROR RIGHT NOW.

FIRST THE LIBRARY WAS
REALLY

NOT -- THE LIBRARY
PEOPLE

RUNNING IT WERE NOT

TRANSPARENT

ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH
THE
BUILDING BEING CLOSED.

AND I THOUGHT WHAT KIND
OF
DISASTER HAPPENED.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SIT IN THAT
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LIBRARY ALL DAY
LONG.

I REMEMBER REGISTERING VOTINGERS

THERE ONCE AND OBSERVING WHO
USED THE LIBRARY.

THERE'S CHILDREN SOME

AS YOUNG

AS BABIES, BECAUSE I'VE GONE
IN

THE LAY BRER AND SEEN PEOPLE

WITH BABIES AND

LIBRARIANS
TELLING THEM STORIES.

SO THERE'S INFANTS CLEAR
TO
ELDERLY PEOPLE.

AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO STAY
IN

THERE ALL DAY LONG USING
THE

COMPUTERS AND
OTHER FACILITIES.

SO IF THIS WHATEVER -- AND
THEN

THEY FINALLY TOLD US IT WAS
BLACK MOLD.

I FELT THAT THE LACK
OF
TRANSPARENCY WAS NOT GOOD.

ALSO THE LIBRARY'S DOWN,
AND

WHAT I'M HEARING IS
IT'S

EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO FIX THE
BUILDING.

HOPEFULLY THEY'LL HAVE
A --

LIKE, SOMEONE MENTIONED A

BOOKMOBILE OVER AT THE COMMUNITY

CENTER SO THAT WE CAN AT
LEAST
RETURN AND RECEIVE BOOKS.

BUT HOW MUCH LONGER WILL THIS
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CITY, ONE OF THE HEAVIEST USERS

OF LIBRARY, I'VE HEARD, BE

WITHOUT A LIBRARY
SPH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME INTO CHAMBERS.

GOOD EVENING.

ERICA, LIBRARY DIRECTOR
SONOMA

COUNTY LIBRARY, AND I'M
HERE

JUST TO URGE YOU TO HIRE
A

CONSULTANT OR ALLOW US TO
HIRE

AN ARCHITECT TO EVALUATE THE

O'REILLY SPACE BEFORE

DECIDING

TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY
PURCHASE.

I HAVE BEEN TO THE BUILDING.

THE FIRST FLOOR IS 15,000
SQUARE

FEET, WHICH IS ABOUT
5,000

SQUARE FEET SHORT OF

WHAT WE

WOULD WANT FOR A

SPACE IN
SEBASTOPOL.

I WOULD ALSO DISCOURAGE
A
TWO-STORY LIBRARY BUILDING.

IT CREATES A LOT OF SECURITY

ISSUES, AND IT'S DIFFICULT
TO

MONITOR, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO --

YOU KNOW, I REALLY URGE YOU
TO

LOOK AT HIRING SOMEBODY
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TO
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EVALUATE THE SPACE AND GIVE YOU

A ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE
OF

WHAT THE COST WOULD BE TO
RENOVATE IT.

THANK YOU.

I YIELD MY TIME.

THANK YOU, ERICA, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

LEE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?

CAN YOU HEAR
ME?
THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE THE
TIMER?
YES.

GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC

COMMUNITY,
PLEASE.

I'M AMAZED AT THE QUALITY
OF

THE TEAM STEVE HAS ASSEMBLED
TO
WORK ON THIS.

EVERY TIME THAT I READ THE
REPORTS, I'M IMPRESSED.

I WISH WE HAD PEOPLE OF THAT

CALIBER

WITH THIS
MUCH

MOTIVATION WORKING ON
THINGS

LIKE THE STRUCTURAL DEFICIT
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THE CITY BECAUSE IT WOULD FIX A
LOT

MORE PROBLEMS THAN FIXING
THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO FIX.

UNFORTUNATELY ABOUT THIS
THAT

OUR NON-PROFIT PARTNERS
NEED
MORE SPACE.

WEST COUNTY INTERESTS WANT
MORE
SPACE.

AS THE VICE MAYOR SAID, AND I

THINK STEVE ACKNOWLEDGED,
THE

CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE

MONEY TO
SUPPORT ANY OF THESE NONPROFITS.

IT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO

PAY THE BILLS AND FIX
THE
STREETS.

IT DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY EVEN

TO SUPPORT THE

ONGOING

MAINTENANCE OF A BIG
NEW

BUILDING LIKE THIS THAT WERE
BUILT.

RIGHT NOW THE SENIOR CENTER
HAS

A BETTER INCOME STATEMENT THAN
THE CITY.

THE CITY CAN'T ANSWER MOST OF
THESE QUESTIONS.

HAVING SAID THAT, THE
AGENDA

ITEM WAS TO DISCUSS TWO

LOCATIONS -- O'REILLY AND THE

PLAZA, BUT NO ONE'S PRESENTED
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ANY INFORMATION ON WHAT ARE YOU

DOING AT O'REILLY, WHAT'S
THE

FACILITY LIKE, HOW WOULD IT
FIT,
HOW WOULD IT BE USED?

ARE WE GOING

TO PUT A LIBRARY ON
THE PLAZA?

DON'T YOU HAVE TO PRESENT THOSE

THINGS SO THEY CAN BE DISCUSSED

AND DEBATED AND CITY COUNCIL
CAN

PROVIDE YOU -- AND THE PUBLIC
CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH COMMENTS?

I ALSO DON'T KNOW WHO'S TALKING

TO THE OWNER OF THE CVS

FACILITY

RIGHT NOW, BUT MY

UNDERSTANDING

IS THE HE OR SHE THEY WANTED A

DIFFERENT BUILDING AND
WERE

FORCED TO TAKE THIS ONE AS A

SO I'M NOT SURE THEY WILL
WANT
TO GET RID OF IT.

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT
MEET

ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT YOU

PROBABLY HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY

SERIOUS ABOUT CONTACTING
THESE
PEOPLE AND NEGOTIATING.

THANK YOU.

THANK

YOU, LEE, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL COME BACK INTO
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CHAMBERS.

GOOD EVENING.

NAME'S PAUL FRITZ.

FIRST

I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY
SUPPORT FOR THE COMMONS IDEA.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR AN
IN-TOWN LOCATION.

I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT KIND
OF

PUTTING ALL THESE
CIVIC

FUNCTIONS AT THE PERIMETER
OF
OUR COMMUNITY.

JUST GOING TO READ A BRIEF
THING

I FOUND ON THE PROJECT
FOR
PUBLIC SPACES WEBSITE.

PUBLIC BUILDINGS ARE THEIR
BEST

WHEN THEY NOT ONLY FUNCTION
AS

ACTIVE COMMUNITY PLACES IN
THEIR

OWN RIGHT BUT ALSO WHEN
THEY

FORM PART OF A LARGER
CIVIC
DISTRICT.

WHEN THE MANAGERS OF
THESE

INSTITUTIONS PARTNER WITH
NEARBY

BUILDINGS TO

ESTABLISH

THEMSELVES A CIVIC

DISTRICT,

THEY CAN COSPONSOR

EVENTS,

PROGRAM FACILITIES,
AND

OTHERWISE SHARE, TRADE, OR

COMBINE THE USE OF THEIR
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SPACES.

THE LIBRARY AND CITY HALL DID

NOT CREATE A CITY ON THEIR OWN

BUT SET UP FOOD VENDORS ON THE

SIDEWALK OR FARMERS MARKET
IN

THE PARKING LOT, AND

SUDDENLY

YOU BEGIN TO GENERATE
MUCH

GREATER LEVELS OF

ACTIVITY THAN
BEFORE.

LIKE WISE, THE ROLE OF A CIVIC

INSTITUTION EXTENDS TO ABILITY
ITSELF.

RARELY ARE THEIR MISSIONS

REFLECTED OR EXPRESSED IN PUBLIC
SPACES.

WHEN A SIEVING INSTITUTION

ENGAGES A

PUBLIC SPACE WHETHER

IT BE A STREET, LOSSA, OR
SQUARE

AND REACHES OUT TO
OTHER

INSTITUTIONS IN

THE NEIGHBORHOOD

THAT MARKS THE REBIRTH OF
A
CIVIC CENTER.

THE CIVIC CENTERS FUNCTION
AS

ONE OF THE GREAT PLACES
IN THE

CITY YET RARELY DO CIVIC

INSTITUTIONS BENEFIT OR

CONTRIBUTE TO DOWNTOWN
REVITALIZATION.

THIS MIGHT OCCUR
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INSTITUTIONS MIGHT HAVE BEEN

RELOCATED TO THE OUT SKIRTS
OF

TOWN OR BECAUSE

INSTITUTIONS

HAVE TURNED THEIR BACKS ON
A

CITY FOR MANY YEARS WAS

UNSAFE,

AT NIGHT DOMINATED BY TRAFFIC OR
LACKING ACTIVITY.

FOR CITIES CONCERNED ABOUT
THE

LONG RUN BACK TO BURGEONING
CENTRAL DISTRICTS IS ESSENTIAL.

I'LL JUST SAY WITH THE

APPROVAL

RECENTLY OF THE CAL TRANS
GRANT,

OUR DOWNTOWN IS ON THE CUSP OF
A
REAL KIND OF TRANSFORMATION.

AND I HOPE THAT THESE
CIVIC

INSTITUTIONS CAN BE PART OF
THAT.

THANK
YOU.

THANK YOU, PAUL, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM IF

THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC

COMMENT ON THIS INFORMATION
ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES, THANK YOU.

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IN LISTENING TO ALL THESE PUBLIC

COMMENTS, I JUST HAD ONE
IDEA.THE

PIAZZA HOTEL LOT IS
STILL

VACANT AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE

THE SOCCER FIELD IDEA
HAS
LANDED.

BUT PERHAPS YOU COULD ASK
THE

HOTEL TO FENCE IN THE LOT SO
IT

COULD BE GATED OFF AT NIGHT,
AND

THERE COULD BE A

BOOKMOBILE AND

PICNIC TABLES AND SOME

PLANTINGS

IN THAT AREA SO PEOPLE COULD

HAVE, LIKE, A DE FACTO OPEN AIR
LIBRARY.

AND PERHAPS THE HOTEL WOULD
BE

WILLING TO FUND SOME TYPES
OF

PLANTINGS AND

NICER LOOKING

FENCE AND A GATE THAT COULD BE

CLOSED AT NIGHT JUST TO CREATE
A
MORE LIVELY SPACE THERE.

SO
THAT'S ONE IDEA.

AND THEN I ALSO AGREE WITH THE

OTHER COMMENTERS THAT WE
NEED
THE COUNTY TO PITCH IN MORE.

WE -- SEBASTOPOL HAS THE HIGHEST

PER CAPITA OF SUBSIDIZED AND
LOW

INCOME HOUSING IN

WESTERN SONOMA

COUNTY, WHICH REDUCES
OUR
PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.

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SO I WOULD KEEP URGING THE
CITY

TO EXPLORE A HIGHER

PERCENTAGE

OF THE PROPERTY TAX THAT IS PAID
BY PEOPLE LIVING IN SEBASTOPOL.

ONLY ABOUT 20 CENTS ON EVERY

DOLLAR THAT A PERSON PAYS
IN

PROPERTY TAX HERE GOES BACK
TO
THE CITY.

AND IF THAT COULD BE UPUP
25 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR, THAT WOULD

BRING IN A LOT MORE MONEY AND
HELP OFFSET SOME OF THESE COSTS.

AS OTHER COMMENTERS HAVE
SAID,

SEBASTOPOL IS KIND OF LIKE
THE

LIVELY HUB FOR WEST
SONOMA
COUNTY.

WE HAVE THE POOL.

WE HAVE THE LIBRARY.

OUR ROADS ARE USED
A LOT.

SO I THINK LOOKING MORE

STRATEGICALLY WITH THE
COUNTY

WE'RE CREATING A SPECIAL ARTS
OR

SOCIAL DISTRICT ALSO IS ANOTHER

WAY TO CARVE OUT ADDITIONAL

PIECES OF TAX
REVENUE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

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CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT.

SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.

CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
THERE.

AM I
UNMUTED?
YOU ARE UNMUTED.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES, I
CAN.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

SO MY NAME IS KENT JENKINS.

I AM THE

SENIOR CENTERS

REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COMMONS

COMMITTEE, AND I APPRECIATE
SOME

OF THESE -- A LOT OF THEM ARE

FIRST IMPRESSIONS OF THE
WORK
WE'VE BEEN DOING.

AND I INVITE ANYONE WHO'S

INTERESTED, AND I APPRECIATE THE

INTEREST, TO TAKE A LOOK AT
OUR
VERY PUBLIC RECORD.

A NUMBER OF THESE ISSUES WE
HAVE
EXPLORED.

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WE HAVE PUBLISHED PAPERS ON
OUR

INVESTIGATORY WORK, AND I THINK

THAT WOULD PROVIDE A GREAT DEAL

OF COMFORT TO THE

PEOPLE WHO ARE
WORRIED ABOUT THIS OR THAT.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD
INVITE

THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT IS

WHERE IN OUR CURRENT TIMES
THE

ACTUAL CENTER OF WHERE
PEOPLE

ARE, WHERE THEY LIVE -- WHERE DO
KIDS ACTUALLY LIVE?
WHERE DO SENIORS ACTUALLY LIVE?

COMBINED WITH WHERE -- HOW
DO
PEOPLE GET TO VARIOUS LOCATIONS?

AND IN BOTH CASES MOST PEOPLE
DRIVE.

SO WHILE THERE MIGHT BE
SOME

PEOPLE WHO WOULD LOSE THE

CONVENIENCE OF A DOWNTOWN

LOCATION, SOMETHING LIKE

O'REILLY, THERE ARE A WHOLE HOST

OF NEW PEOPLE WHO WOULD
GAIN
THAT CONVENIENCE.

SO IT'S A TOUGH TRADEOFF, AND
MY

HEART GOES OUT TO PEOPLE WHO
MAY

MISS SOMETHING THAT WAS IN
THEIR
LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT I'M ALSO PLEASED TO EXPAND

THAT OPPORTUNITY TO OTHER PEOPLE
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IN OUR CITY WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE

NEGLECTED PERIPHERIES OF OUR
TOWN.

SO THAT'S MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.

THANK YOU, KENT, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN

CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE

A PUBLIC
COMMENT.

SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN

ZOOM WHO

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC

COMMENT, RAISE YOUR
HAND
VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT
IS
CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY, WE'RE BACK AT THE
DIAS.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR A
MOTION?

OH, I'M
SORRY.

INFORMATIONAL ITEM.

EXACTLY.

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THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL.

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AND AS THE STAFF REPORT
NOTES,

THE COMMITTEE WILL BE
COMING

BACK IN SEPTEMBER TO

MAKE FORMAL

RECOMMENDATION THAT THE

COUNCIL

CAN DEBATE AND ACT ON AT
THAT
POINT.

EVEN FOR INFORMATIONAL
ITEMS

WE CAN STILL PROVIDE

DIRECTION,
CORRECT?

SO I'M HOPING THAT MY COLLEAGUES

WILL DIRECT THE COMMITTEE
TO

CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THOSE TWO

OPTIONS ALONG WITH STAFF'S
USE
OF TIME DURING THOSE MEETINGS.

I'D LIKE YOU TO EXPAND A

LITTLE BIT TO POSSIBLY

INCLUDE

THE CVS BUILDING AND NOT LIMIT
IT.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE YOU TO
THINK

ABOUT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE
CITY,

NOT JUST WHAT IS AVAILABLE RIGHT
NOW.

SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS
THAT
I'M GIVING TO YOU RIGHT NOW.

I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT
FOR A SECOND.

NOT TO BE DEFENSIVE BUT TO CLUE
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YOU IN ON ALL THE MONTHS OF WORK
WE'VE PUT IN.

THE CVS, THE OWNERS WE'VE

REACHED OUT TO THEM AND

INTERTAPED THE IDEA OF ACTUALLY
BUYING THERE.

WE'VE LOOKED AT THE REAL
COSTS
IT WOULD TAKE TO BE IN IT.

AND ALSO WE'VE LOOKED
AT

COMPLETE FRESH NEW BUILDS
THAT
THE CITY OWNS.

LIKE ALL OF IT.

I WENT THROUGH A VERY
LONG

PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING
EVERY

SINGLE AVAILABLE PIECE OF
LAND,

WHAT WE COULD SWAP OVER,
AND

WHAT WAS THE MOST EFFICIENT USE
OF ANYTHING.

AND THEN NOT ONLY THAT, SO IN

THE PROCESS PRIOR IS WHERE
WE

SHOW SOME OF THE SWAT

ANALYSIS

OF SOME OF THE
OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.

THE CVS BUILDING AND THE RITE

AID BUILDING DID NOT MAKE IT

BECAUSE THE INVESTOR OWNED
BUILDINGS WAS $45,000 A MONTH
OR

SOMETHING WE COULDN'T
HANDLE

WHEN EVERYTHING IS BASICALLY
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RENT-FREE, SO WE NEED TO
BUY.

AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO ON JULY
14th IN OUR MEETING IS

ACTUALLY

DISCUSS REAL NUMBERS AND
COME
BACK WITH THOSE.

AND WE'RE DEFINITELY

THINKING

ABOUT THE WHOLE CITY AND HOW WE

CAN SUPPORT ALL THE

THINGS,
WHICH IS THE COMMONS ITSELF.

SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT
THE
COMMUNITY CENTER.

WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL OF OUR
NONPROFITS.

WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THAT

AND HOW WE CAN

TAKE CARE OF ALL

OF THEM FOR THE MOST BANG
FOR

OUR BUCK, THE BEST VALUE,
AND

THE MOST REALISTIC OPPORTUNITY

THAT WE
HAVE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO WE WILL RECEIVE THAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

SO WE WILL BE MOVING ONTO THE

PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CAPITAL

IMPROVEMENT
BUDGET.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS ITEM IS THE ANNUAL

CAPITAL

IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OR
CIP,
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WHICH SERVES AS THE
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CITY'S

FIVE-YEAR PLANNING DOCUMENT FOR

MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS
AND PUBLIC FACILITIES.

THE FIRST YEAR OF THE DOCUMENT,
THE FISCAL YEAR 2026, '27 PLAN

IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PLAN

BEFORE COUNCIL TONIGHT FOR

CONSIDERATION
AND ADOPTION.

THE REMAINING FOUR YEARS ARE A

PLANNING PROJECTION INTENDED
TO

ASSIST WITH LONG-TERM

PROJECT
DEVELOPMENT AND GRANTS.

SO TONIGHT I'M GOING TO WALK

THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE PROJECTS
IN THE '26, '27 CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

AND THEN I'LL PAUSE AFTER
EACH

ONE FOR QUESTIONS
AND
DISCUSSION.

AFTER ALL THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN

MOVED THROUGH AND

REVIEWED,

WE'LL RETURN TO THE FUNDING

SUMMARY, OPEN THE PUBLIC

HEARING, AND REQUEST THAT

COUNCIL CONSIDER

RESOLUTION
ADOPTING THE FY '26, '27 CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

ONE SEC TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

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I'M JUST GOING TO RUN

THROUGH
ALL OF THEM.

SO THE FIRST GROUP OF PROJECTS
IS FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.

IF YOU HAVE YOUR

CAPITAL

IMPROVEMENT BOOK, I PUT
THE

NUMBER ON THE TOP OF THE
PAGES
AND THE AGENDA NUMBER.

SO IF YOU HAVE YOUR BUDGET BOOK,
THIS IS TAB "J," PAGEPAGE 7.

AND IT'S PAGE 20 IN THE AGENDA.

SO THE FIRST PEDESTRIAN

IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IS FOR
THE

BODEGA AVENUE GUARDRAILS
RIGHT

AT THE CITY LIMITS GOING
ACROSS

THE CREEK, THE SMALL

SECTION

THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY
INNER
LIMITS.

WE HAVE HIGHWAY
SAFETY
IMPROVEMENT FUNDS FOR THIS.

IT'S A GRANT PROJECT.

THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE, AND
WE

FOUND AT THE END OF THE
DESIGN

THAT THERE WAS A CONFLICT WITH

THE GAS LINE FROM PG&E, SO
WE'RE

WORKING WITH THEM TO MOVE
THAT,

AND THEN WE'LL BE MOVING THIS

INTO CONSTRUCTION
THIS YEAR.

PAUSE THERE.

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QUESTIONS?
Agenda Item Number 1

DO YOU THINK WE COULD HOLD
QUESTIONS?

WELL, MY PROBLEM IS I CANNOT SEE

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON,
SO I

DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD SPLIT
THE

SCREEN SO I COULD SEE HER, OR

MAYBE IF SHE HAS A

QUESTION SHE COULD
SPEAK UP.

I'M HAPPY TO DO
THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, THAT WOULD BE
PERFECT.

I'LL JUST KIND OF -- NO
PROBLEM.

ALL RIGHT, THE SECOND OF
OUR

PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS

IS FOR THE CROSSINGS HIGHWAY
116
GOING THROUGH TOWN.

THERE ARE FOUR OF THESE.

WE'RE UPGRADING THE CROSSINGS AT

HUTCHENS AND WALKER, AND
THEN

WE'RE INSTALLING NEW

CROSSINGS

WITH RFB FLASHERS AT ANNETTE
AND
KEATING.

WE FINISHED THE PLAN AND DESIGN

SPECIFICATIONS IN MAY, AND I'M
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JUST LOOKING AT IT

THOUGHTFULLY

IN LIGHT OF THE CALTRANS GRANTGRANT

THAT WE RECEIVED AND THE
PLAN

THAT WAS PASSED BY THIS

COUNCIL

TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OF
THE

TRAFFIC COMMON MEASURES WE CAN

INCORPORATE INTO THE BURNETTE

CROSSING BEFORE WE PUT IT OUT
FOR
BID.

CAN I INSERT?

WE HAD A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC

LAST MEETING THAT ASKED TO MAKE

IT CLEAR WHERE EACH OF THE
FUNDS
ARE COMING FROM.

I KNOW THAT

THEY'RE ON THE

SCREEN, BUT I THOUGHT YOU
MIGHT

WANT TO MENTION
THEM.

YEAH, THIS ONE IS AN HCIP

PROJECT, SO HIGHWAY
SAFETY

IMPROVEMENT FUNDS, AND THERE'S A

PORTION OF MATCH FUNDING
FROM

OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES AND
FROM
SB-1, WHICH IS A STATE FUND
THAT

WE RECEIVE STREET
FUNDING FOR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT?
ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT ONE IS FOR A

CROSSING AT
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COVERT AND ZIMPHER LANE.

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THERE'S ALSO ASULAR PROJECT
YOU'LL SEE IN THE SAME SECTION.

WE'LL TRY TO DO A SEWER PROJECT

BEFORE, AND WE'LL REALLY

IMPROVING THIS

PEDESTRIAN
CROSSING TO BE A LITTLE SAFER.

THIS IS ALSO AN HSIP PROJECT

WITH SOME MATCH FUNDING FROM
OUR
TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES.

AND THE FINAL --

THIS ONE IS A
CROSSING AT SUNSET AND JOHNSON.

THIS PROJECT'S DESIGNED -- THIS
ONE'S 100% FUNDED BY OUR TRAFFIC

IMPACT FEES, BUT IT IS RIGHT BY

THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THAT KIND OF

BLIND CORNER GOING
AROUND

JOHNSON, SO A

DEFINITE
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUE.

AND THEN THE LAST

PEDESTRIAN

SAFETY ONE THIS IS THE SIGNAL AT
RAGLE ROAD AND BODEGA AVENUE.

THIS IS A GRANT THAT WE
SUBMITTED TO SDCTA.

WE WERE

WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK, BUT IF

WE WERE SUCCESSFUL, WE
WOULD
MOVE IN A SIGNAL LIGHT THERE.

NEXT WE HAVE OUR PARKS PROJECTS.

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SO THE FIRST ONE OF THE PARKS
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PROJECTS

THIS IS THE
CALDER
CREEK PROJECT PHASE ONE.

THIS IS LOOKING TO ADVANCE
FOR

THE FIRST TWO PHASES UP TO THE

WEIRM SQUCH THE SECOND PROJECT

WE HAVE FOR THIS YEAR IS

FOR THE
IVES PARK PATHWAY.

THIS IS THE ADA WALKWAY FROM
THE

FIRST PHASE THAT ENDED AT
THE

BATHROOM TO THE PARKING LOT

WHERE WE HAVE OUR

ADA PARKING
STALL.

AND THIS ONE IS FUNDING DESIGN.

WE'RE HOPING TO GET IT

COMPLETED
OR CONSTRUCTED OVER THE WINTER.

AND THIS ONE IS ALL FUNDED BY

MEASURE
"M.
"

OKAY, THE NEXT BUNCH OF PROJECTS

WE HAVE ARE FOR THE

PAVEMENT
IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

THE FIRST ONE IS
THE

CONTINUATION OF THE DIG ADDISON
REPAIRS.

COUNCIL AWARDED THIS CONTRACT AT
OUR JUNE 16th MEETING.

WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH
THE
CONTRACTOR.

WE'RE DOING

PRECONSTRUCTION
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MEETING NEXT WEEK, AND WE
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SHOULD

BE INTO CONSTRUCTION BY THE
END

OF JULY FOR THIS DIG OUT AND
REPAIR PIECE.

AND THIS IS FUNDED I THINK --
LOST MY FUNDING.

LOST IT ON MY SCREEN.

QUESTION.

WILL THE STREET REPAIRS
BE
COMING BACK TO COUNCIL?
YES.

SO THAT'S THE DIG OUT AND REPAIR

THAT'S BEEN APPROVED THROUGH
COUNCIL.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE CITY
IMPROVEMENTS FOR FY26.

THESE WERE IMPROVEMENTS THAT
WERE APPROVED.

SO THIS IS IN DESIGN FOR
CONSTRUCTION OVER THE WINTER.

AND THEN THE FINAL ONE, THIS
IS

THE BIG PAVING PROJECT THAT
WILL

LOOK AT THE NEXT BUNCH
OF
STREETS.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK AT
KIND

OF A MULTIYEAR PAVING
PLAN

TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION
NOT

ONLY PCI BUT WHERE WE ARE IN
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SCHOOLS, WHAT OTHER
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PLANNED
STREETS WE'RE ON.

WE'RE LOOKING AT WATER AND
SEWER

PROJECTS THAT ALSO MIGHT

OVERLAP

AND TRY TO DO AN ANALYSIS
OF

WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST

STREETS
TO SPEND OUR REHAB MONEY ON.

THERE'S ALSO THE STREETS

THAT ARE

RECOMMENDED THROUGH OUR

PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN
FOR

LIKE A SLURRY OVERLAY,
SO WE

WANT TO DO KIND OF GROUPING OF
BOTH.

WE NEED TO DO SOME OF
THAT

PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE OVERLAY

PROJECTS TO MAINTAIN

STREETS,

BUT WE ALSO WANT TO GET SOME
OF
OUR BAD STREETS.

BUT JUST TO LET PEOPLE IN
THE

COMMUNITY KNOW HOW WE'RE

RANKING

THE STREETS AND WHEN WE'LL GET
TO THEM.

SO HOPING TO BRING THAT BACK
IN

SEPTEMBER FOR DESIGN,
AND WE
WANT TO BID IT IN DECEMBER-ISH.

IT SEEMS TO BE THE MOST

COMPETITIVE TIME TO BID
PAVING

PROJECTS AND BUILD IT IN THE
SPRING.

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Agenda Item Number 1
THANK YOU.

AND THESE ARE OUR
SEWER
PROJECTS FOR THE YEAR.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS

ZIMPHER
GREEK PART ONE.

SO WE HAVE A LARGE LOAD ON
ONE

OF OUR LINES THAT GOES ALONG
ZIMPHER CREEK.

AND THIS PROJECT IS TO DIVERT
A

SECTION OF THE FLOWS IN
COVERT

LANE TO ZIMPHER CREEK TO

LIGHTEN

THE LOAD THERE WE HAVE TO FLUSH

REGULARLY TO KEEP IT FROM
OVERFLOWING.

AND THIS HAS BEEN DESIGNED, SO

WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS
OUT AS
SOON AS WE CAN.

THE HOLD UP IS GETTING
A

CALTRANS PERMIT FOR THE TRAFFIC

CONTROL ON LONG

HILLSBURG
AVENUE.

WITNESS WE GET THAT, WE'LL
CONSTRUCT THIS.

AND AS I MENTIONED THERE'S
ALSO

A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ON

COVERT,

SO WE'LL TRY TO DO THE
SEWER

LINE BEFORE WE DO THE CROSSING

SO WE DON'T CUT UP OUR
PAVING.

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Agenda Item Number 1
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WERE THERE ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS
FROM COUNCIL?
NO?

WE CAN GO OUT TO PUBLIC

COMMENT,
PLEASE.

OH, I HAVE
MORE.

OH, YOU HAVE MORE,
SORRY.

WE'VE GOT MORE.

THIS IS THE ACTUAL

CREEK SECTION

THAT IS FAILING, SO IT'S
BEEN
PARTIALLY DESIGNED.

SO WE WANT TO GET THIS TO
100%

DESIGN SO THAT WE CAN

BUILD IT
THE NEXT YEAR.

THIS IS OUR SEWER MASTER PLAN.

WE STARTED THIS WORK.

THEY'RE DOING THE MODELING
AT

THE MOMENT, SO WE'LL BE UPDATING

THE FOC ON THAT

IN THE FALL AND

BRING IT BACK TO

COUNCIL IN THE

WINTER WITH

THE RECOMMENDATIONS
FOR MASTER PLAN CIP LIST.

AND THIS IS KIND OF A BUCKET

PROJECT FOR WASTEWATER SYSTEM

REPLACEMENT PROJECTS AND
OUR

VISION HERE IS MORE DOING
THOSE
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PAVING PROJECTS WHEN WE FIND
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FAILING SEWERS THAT WE'RE
ALSO

ABLE TO REPLACE THOSE KIND
OF IN
THIS CIP BUCKET.

THIS IS
MORRIS STREET.

WE APPROVED THIS AT THE
JUNE
16th COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I LEFT

IT IN HERE BECAUSE WE DID
LET

SOME BIDS COME IN SINCE THEN,

AND THEY'RE HIGHER THAN WHAT
WE

BUDGETED IN THE

ENGINEER'S
ESTIMATES.

WE HAVE A BUDGET

COMMITTEE

MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THAT,
AND

WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK
AN

AMENDMENT TO THE CIP WITH
OUR
FINAL MEMBERS HERE NEXT MEETING.

SO NOW WE'RE INTO OUR FLOOD

RESILIENCY MASTER PLANNING
EFFORTS.

THIS PLAN IS WELL UNDER WAY.

THEY'VE DONE ALL THE

YDRAULING

MODELING AND WE'RE MEETING
WITH

THE SONOMA WATER AGENCY

TOMORROW

TO SEE HOW OUR MODELS AND
THEIR

MODELS CAN SUPPORT EACH OTHER
TO

LOOK AT WHERE WE CAN START

BUILDING OUT CIP PROJECTS
IN
DRAINAGE AND STORM WATER.

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THE COMMUNITY CENTERS,
Agenda Item Number 1
THE

COUNCIL APPROVED THE LIST OF

REPAIRS, AND ZEE SOME

PRELIMINARY COSTS ON WHAT
THOSE

WILL BE, SO WE'LL BE

WORKING

THROUGH REPAIRING THOSE
FLOOD

DAMAGE PROJECTS THAT COMMUNITY
CENTER THIS YEAR.

COVERT CREEK WE TALKED ABOUT AND
APPROVED AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.

THIS IS OUR BIG-WATER

PROJECT
FOR THE YEAR.

WE JUST PASSED OUR MASTER
PLAN,

AND THE MAIN THING WE NEED TO
DO
IS REPLACE WALL FOUR.

WE JUST RECEIVED THE

PERMITTING

TO DO THE MONITORING WELL
THAT

WILL SUPPORT THE DESIGN
OF THE

NEW WELL, WHICH WILL BE
WELL
NINE.

THE OTHER PORTION OF THIS

PROJECT IS TO LOOK FOR
SOME
FINANCING TO FUND THIS PROJECT.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO WORK
WITH

THE CONSULTANT, IF COUNCIL
CHOOSES TO PAUSE OUR RATES.

WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET THAT

FUNDING, SO THIS MAY PUSH
OUT

ANOTHER YEAR UNTIL WE CAN HAVE
A
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STABLE RATE STRUCTURE THAT
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WOULD
SUPPORT FINANCING.

THEN THIS ONE IS TO DO TANK

ASSESSMENTS, SO
THERE'S TWO.

WANTED TO DO A STRUCTURAL

ASSESSMENT AND ONE IS TO DO A

SEISMIC ASSESSMENT OF THE
FIRST
STREET AND PLEASANT HILL TANKS.

AND THIS LAST WATER CIP IS FOR
A

WATER METER AT OUR YARD WHERE
WE

HAVE A WATER TOWER JUST
TO

BETTER AUTOMATE THE USE OF THAT
WATER.

SO THIS IS GLOBALLY OUR CIP FOR

WATER, AND I JUST WANTED TO
STOP

HERE AND SAY THAT IF WE
PAUSE

OUR RATE STRUCTURE AND OUR

TIERED RATES, WE WILL PROBABLY

NEED TO BRING SOME OF THIS
BACK

SO THAT WE'RE NOT DEFICIT

SPENDING TOO FAR

INTO OUR
RESERVES.

SO SOME OF THESE MAY PUSH OUT.

THE REAL PRIORITY

FOR US IS TO

COMPLETE THE DESIGN AT LEAST
ON

WELL FOUR SO WE CAN KIND
OF

POSITION OURSELVES FOR

FUNDING

WHEN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, HAS
A

RATE STRUCTURE THAT WILL

SUPPORT
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THAT.

Agenda Item Number 1

AND THEN MY LAST ONE IS
THE

POLICE STATION GENERATOR,
WHICH

WE'RE IN DESIGN ON AND WE'LL
DO

CONSTRUCTION AS SOON AS
THEY
COMPLETE THAT.

AND HERE'S MY GLOBAL

SUMMARY,

AND I'LL TAKE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS.

SEEING NO QUESTIONS, WE'LL
GO
OUT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU,
VICE MAYOR.

SO THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
ON

THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CIP
PROJECTS.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A

PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL COME INTO
CHAMBERS FIRST.

SEEING NONE, I WILL GO OUT TO
ZOOM.

KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES, THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY, JUST FOR A
SECOND.

STEVEN, CAN YOU UNSHARE THE

SCREEN, PLEASE, SO WE CAN
SEE
THE TIMER?
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GREAT,
Agenda Item Number 1
THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD WITH YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

YES, I JUST REMEMBER THAT
THE

ROTARY HAD A PLAN FOR UP
GRADES

TO IVES PARK THAT WAS FULLY

FUNDED, AND I DON'T

REMEMBER
THAT COMING BACK AROUND.

O I

SO I JUST HAD -- I WAS

CURIOUS

ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT
SEEMED

LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
A
REALLY WONDERFUL PROJECT.

AND THEN I WAS ALSO

WONDERING

THE FENCE REPLACEMENT
WAS

EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL, AND I

THINK EVERYONE'S ENJOYING
THAT,

AND I WAS WONDERING

IF THERE

WILL BE MORE FENCE

REPLACEMENT
TAKING PLACE.

THOSE ARE MY TWO
QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME INTO CHAMBERS.

SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT
TO
ZOOM.

LEE, CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF
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Agenda Item Number 1
PLEASE?

YES, CAN YOU
HEAR?
I CAN.

CAN
YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YEP.

GREAT.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

I THINK THIS IS A $10

MILLION
PLAN.

LAST YEAR'S PLAN WAS A
$10
MILLION PLAN.

I EXPRESSED SOME CONCERN
LAST

YEAR THAT YOU DON'T HAVE
THE
STAFF TO DO A $10 MILLION PLAN.

YOU ACTUALLY DID 4.2, I
GUESS,

BASED UPON THE SUMMARY SHEET
HERE, AND 2.5 OF THAT WAS
THE

PROJECT
IN BODEGA.

AS I GO BACK THROUGH YEARS
I

FIND THAT REPEATEDLY THAT

THERE'S A BIG PLAN

AND NOT MUCH GETS
DONE.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE STUFF
THAT

GETS DONE IS PRIMARILY STUFF

THAT HAS A GRANT, AND THAT
SEEMS
TO DRIVE WHAT WE FIX.

AND IT'S NOT A VERY
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STRATEGIC
Agenda Item Number 1
WAY TO
DO THINGS.

AND LIBRARY BUILDING I THINK
IS
A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

JUST RECENTLY THE CITY

REPLACED

THE ROOF AND REPLACED THE SOLAR

PANELS, BUT APPARENTLY THERE

WASN'T ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THE

ACTUAL STRUCTURE
ITSELF.

MOST LIKELY BECAUSE THERE WAS

MONEY TO REPLACE -- FREE MONEY

TO REPLACE THE ROOF AND
THE

SOLAR PANELS, BUT THERE'S
NO

FREE MONEY TO GO INTO THE WALLS
AND FIX STUFF.

AND SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO BALANCE

THERE'S SOME MONEY

AVAILABLE

WITH THERE

ARE PRIORITIES THAT

ABSOLUTELY MUST BE FIXED --

STREETS, SOME OF OUR
PUBLIC
BUILDINGS ARE EXAMPLES OF THAT.

AND THE LAST PART OF THIS
WOULD
BE JUST TRANSPARENCY.

IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO
FIGURE

OUT IN ANY GIVEN YEAR WHAT
WAS
DONE -- WHAT WAS PLANNED.

WHAT WAS PLANNED IS ALWAYS
THERE.

WHAT WAS ACTUALLY DONE IS ALMOST

NEVER THERE UNLESS YOU REALLY GO
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Agenda Item Number 1

SEARCHING AND YOU'RE NEVER
SURE

BECAUSE THE NUMBERS DON'T
MATCH
UP.

SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE
A

BETTER WAY OF RECONCILING
THIS,

AND IT WOULD BE BETTER

FOR CITY

COUNCIL TO SEE THE THINGS
THAT
MAYBE AREN'T BEING DONE.

MAYBE THEY COULD SAY, WAIT A

MINUTE, WE BETTER PRIORITIZE
FIGURING THAT ONE OUT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.

SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.

IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC
COMMENT ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

PLEASE, GO AHEAD.

MY
NAME IS DOUG.

I LIVE ON PETALUMA AVENUE.

I'M JUST WONDERING HOW
YOU
PRIORITIZE THE CROSSINGS.

THE ONE AT BURNETT ANDAND

MAIN SEEMS TO ME TO BE
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VERY
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IMPORTANT.

I KNOW PEOPLE STEP OUT AND

THERE'S PARKING RIGHT UP TO THE

CROSSWALK, AND I WAS
JUST

TALKING WITH A GUY TODAY
WHO
SAID HE WAS ALMOST HIT THERE.

THANK
YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL GO BACK OUT
TO
ZOOM.

IF THERE'S ANYONE

ON ZOOM THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC

COMMENT ON THE PUBLIC HEARING

FOR THE CIP TO PLEASE RAISE
YOUR
HAND VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, I'LL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.

SEEING NONE, PUBLIC HEARING IS
CLOSED.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW
IF

SOMEONE COULDER AND THE

QUESTIONABOUT

HOW THOSE ARE PRIORITIZED,
CROSSINGS.

IN PAST EXPERIENCE CALTRANS

WILL DO TRAFFIC STUDIES AND
LOOK

AT THEM AND BURNETT IS ON
THAT
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LIST AND IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF
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THE CROSSINGS THAT NEEDS
HELP.

OKAY,
THANK YOU.

SO BACK TO THE DAIS FOR
ANY
COMMENTS OR A MOTION.

NO, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A

MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S
RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND.

THANK
YOU.

SO MOVED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER

ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED

BY COUNCIL

MEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE
THE

RESOLUTION APPROVING THE
FISCAL
YEAR 26, 27 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PLAN.

COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER?
YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON?
AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN.

YES.

VICE
MAYOR MAURER.

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YES.

Agenda Item Number 1
MAYOR McLEWIS IS ABSENT.

THE MOTION PASSES 4-1
WITH

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTERS,

HINTON,

VICE MAYOR MAURER IN

SUPPORT,
AND MAYOR McLEWIS IS
ABSENT.

SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE A
NICE,

SHORT BREAK, AND WE'LL BE
RIGHT
BACK AT IT.

OKAY, CAN WE BRING THE
MEETING BACK TO ORDER?

CODY, ARE WE
READY?
I GOT
IT.

I SEE A
THUMBS UP.

STEVEN, CAN YOU CHANGE
THE
VIEW TO GALLERY AS WELL, PLEASE?
ARE WE READY TO GO, PLEASE?

YES, WE'RE READY TO
RESUME.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE MOVING ONTO

REGULAR

CALENDER ITEM NUMBER
9,

DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION
OF

APPROVAL OF WAIVING THE
FIRST

READING AND INTRODUCTION OF
THE

ORDINANCE REGARDING CITY COUNCIL
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Agenda Item Number 1
COMPENSATION.

GOOD EVENING.

EXCUSE ME, GOOD EVENING
VICE

MAYOR AND
COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO THIS IS FOLLOWING UP
ON

PREVIOUS DIRECTION FROM THE
COUNCIL.

BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A
DRAFT
ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 2.
44 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE TO ADJUST
COUNCIL COMPENSATION.

CURRENTLY THE

COUNCIL'S
COMPENSATION IS $300 PER
MONTH,

AND IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR
MANY, MANY YEARS.

AND, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY
THE

CITY WAS AUTHORIZED TO INCREASE
THAT AMOUNT BY 5% PER YEAR, BUT

THE COUNCIL -- THE CITY
NEVER
DID.

RECENTLY STATE LAW READJUSTED

WHAT THE MAXIMUM SALARY COULD
BE

FOR ALL DIFFERENT CITIES AND
BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE CITY.

AND FOR THE CITY OF OUR
SIZE,
THE MAXIMUM COMPENSATION IS $950

PER MONTH SUBJECT TO POTENTIAL

FUTURE INCREASES THAT WOULD
NEED
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TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL
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INTHE
FUTURE.

SO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD

INCREASE COUNCIL COMPENSATION
TO
$950 PER MONTH.

UNDER STATE LAW, THAT
CANNOT

TAKE EFFECT UNTIL THERE IS THE

START OF A NEW COUNCIL
MEMBER
TERM.

SO THAT MEANS IT WOULDN'T TAKE
EFFECT UNTIL JANUARY OF 2027.

IT WOULD APPLY TO ALL

COUNCIL

MEMBERS, EVEN THOSE WHO ARE

CONTINUING TO SERVE OUT EXISTING
TERMS.

THE FISCAL IMPACT FOR
THIS

BECAUSE IT'S ONLY HALF OF
THE

YEAR THIS YEAR, THE
FISCAL
IMPACT WOULD BE ABOUT 37,000 --

EXCUSE ME, THE COST
WOULD
INCREASE FROM 18,000 TO
37,500
FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

IN THE FUTURE WHEN THERE
ARE

FULL YEARS AT THE HIGH

COMPENSATION AMOUNT, THAT
WOULD
BE $57,000 TOTAL.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE
STAFF

REPORT GOES INTO HOW MUCH
TIME

AND WHAT A COMMITMENT IT IS TO
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BY A COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE YEAR
Agenda Item Number 1
2026 AND HOW MUCH MORE
IS

INVOLVED IN IT THAN WHEN THE

CITY SET THAT RATE BACK IN --

YOU KNOW, DECADES AGO,

FRANKLY,
THE 300.

SO WITH THAT I'LL PAUSE AND
SEE

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS
FROM
THE
COUNCIL.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

I SEE NO QUESTIONS, SO WE WILL

GO OUT TO PUBLIC COMMENT,
PLEASE.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

SO THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT
FOR

THE INTRODUCTION OF THE

ORDINANCE ON CITY COUNCIL
COMPENSATION.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC

COMMENT, I'LL COME OUT OUGHT
TO

CONVERSATION AND COME OUT TO
ZOOM.

GOOD EVENING.

I HOPE YOU APPRECIATE
THIS

INCREASE BECAUSE THIS IS
A

POLICY THAT THE STATE-WIDE

CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY

NAACP HAS

ADVOCATED FOR TO INCREASE
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YOUR
Agenda Item Number 1

SUPPORTIVE

FISCAL SUPPORT IN
YOUR ROLES.

SO JUST KNOW THIS IS
NOT

SOMETHING THAT IS

ARBITRARILY

BEING BROUGHT FORWARD BY
YOUR

JURISDICTION OF YOUR CITY
STAFF,

BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A

STATEWIDE ENDEAVOR SUPPORTED
BY

THE NAACP ACROSS THE
STATE

BROUGHT FORWARD BY AT THE
TIME
STATE SENATOR BILL DODD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE,
PLEASE?
YES.

I'M UNMUTED, I
BELIEVE.

YOU ARE.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER STILL?
I
CAN.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

AS A STUDENT OF SEBASTOPOL,
I
100% SUPPORT COUNCIL RAISES.

I KNOW HOW HARD COUNCIL

MEMBERS

WORK, AND I ADMIRE THEIR

DILIGENCE AND THE HUNDREDS AND
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HUNDREDS OF HOURS THAT
THEY

SPEND WORKING ON BEHALF OF
OUR
COMMUNITY.

IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT JOB.

AS A WATER AND SEWER

RATEPAYER,

I CANNOT SUPPORT THE
RAISES

UNLESS THE CITY COUNCIL TIME IS

REMOVED FROM THE

RATEPAYER

EXPENSES DUE TO THE FACT
THAT

COUNCIL ACTUALLY SPENDS
VERY

LITTLE TIME ON WATER AND
SEWER
ISSUES.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY I
100% AS

A CITIZEN SUPPORT THE

COUNCIL

RAISES BUT BELIEVE THAT

COUNCIL

TIME SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE
RATEPAYER EXPENSE POOL.

THANK
YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME INTO CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS.

SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.

LEE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?

CAN YOU HEAR
ME?
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I CAN HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER
STILL?
SURE.

GREAT.

GO
AHEAD, PLEASE.

THIS IS ALLOWED BY LAW,
NOT
MANDATED.

IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT TONEDEAF

IN THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL
GIVEN

THAT YOU'VE REPEATEDLY BEEN TOLD

BY DIRECTOR WONG THERE'S
A
STRUCTURAL DEFICIT.

THAT MEANS THAT EXPENSES
IN
SALARIES AND BENEFITS ARE 60% OF

THE EXPENSES IN THIS CITY ARE
GROWING FASTER THAN REVENUE.

AND OVER TIME THE

INEVITABLE

RESULT WILL BE A FEW PEOPLE HERE

GETTING PAID, DOING NO
WORK

BECAUSE THERE'S NO MONEY TO DO
WORK.

IF YOU'RE DOING THIS JOB FOR
$900 A MONTH, YOU MIGHT WANT TO
REEXAMINE YOUR LIFE GOALS.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, LEE, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

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NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO
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CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.

MARY, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE THE
TIME R?
I
CAN.

GREAT, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I SUPPORT THE RAISES BUT
I

ABSOLUTELY OPPOSE IT IF THIS
IS

COMING TO WATER
RATE PAYERS.

ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO THAT.

GET
IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL COME INTO CHAMBERS.

SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.

CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
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PLEASE?
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YES.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE THE
TIMER?
SURE,
YES.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

SO THIS IS KENT JENKINS.

AGAIN, I AM A MEMBER OF THE
BUILDING THE COMMONS COMMITTEE.

AND ONE OF THE PLEASURES
AND

PRIVILEGES I'VE HAD IS TO WATCH

TWO OF OUR

SITTING COUNCIL

MEMBERS AND HOW THEY ENGAGE
WITH

THE COMMITTEE, THE TIME THEY

SPEND ON IT, AND REALIZE THIS IS

ONLY ONE OF DOZENS

OF COMMITTEES

AND MEETINGS THAT THEY GO
TO ON
A WEEKLY BASIS.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW

ANYBODY

WITHOUT SOME OUTSIDE SUPPORT

SYSTEM COULD EXIST AND DO
THIS

KIND OF WORK ON THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY THAT THEY GET NOW.

SO WHAT

THAT MEANS, OF COURSE,

IS THAT ANYONE WHO'S NOT IN
A

PRIVILEGED POSITION TO
HAVE

THEIR TIME SUBSIDIZED IS
UNABLE
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TO SERVE.

AND WE OBVIOUSLY COULD USE SOME

DIVERSITY IN OUR BOARD AND
IN

OUR PEOPLE WHO
SERVE THE CITY.

SO I THINK THE RATE

INCREASE

MAKES A MINIMAL SENSE
AND

CERTAINLY OPENS THE POOL
TO

PEOPLE WHO MIGHT ACTUALLY MAKE
A

FEW DOLLARS PER HOUR TO

ACTUALLY

SERVE OUR CITY AND TAKE THE
TIME

TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE ISSUES AND

RESEARCH THINGS THE WAY THEY
SHOULD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN

CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT.

SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK --
OH,
I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

HI.

I HADN'T PLANNED ON MAKING
A
COMMENT.

MY NAME IS JANELLE.

MY FATHER SPENT YEARS ON
THIS
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COUNCIL AND SERVED A FEW TERMS
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AS MAYOR.

I LIVED IN THIS TOWN A WEEK
SHY
OF 59 YEARS.

I THINK $100 IS A LOT OF MONEY.

AS I REMEMBER SERVING ON THIS

COUNCIL, AND THIS IS NOT
TO

DIMINISH WHAT YOU DO

BECAUSE
IT'S TRULY APPRECIATED.

BUT AS I REMEMBER, SERVING ON

THE COUNCIL IS DONE BECAUSE
OF

HOW MUCH WE LOVE OUR CITY
AND

THE PASSION THAT WE HAVE FOR
OUR
CITY.

I KNOW THAT'S WHAT MY DAD
AND

FELLOW COUNCIL PEOPLE OVER THE
20 YEARS -- THAT'S JUST THE WAY
THEY WORKED.

AND, YEAH, IT'S NOT YOUR
FULLTIME JOB.

AND IT CAN'T BE YOUR FULLTIME
JOB.

AND I JUST --

UNFORTUNATELY,
THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

SO I JUST FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO

SAY SOMETHING
ABOUT THAT.

TRULY NOT TO DIMINISH -- I
KNOW

I'M REPEATING MYSELF NOW --
WHAT
I'VE ALREADY SAID BECAUSE YOU VERY VALUABLE.

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BUT WITH ALL THE OTHER
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FINANCIAL

OBSTACLES RIGHT NOW, I
THINK
THAT $900 IS A LOT MORE THAN

MOST PEOPLE IN TOWN THINK IT
SHOULD BE.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, JANELLE, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM.

IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM
THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC

COMMENT, TO PLEASE RAISE
YOUR
HAND VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, I'LL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS.

SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT
IS

CLOSED ON THIS
ITEM.

OKAY, BRINGING IT BACK
TO

COUNCIL FOR FURTHER COMMENTS
AND/OR A MOTION.

BUT BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION, LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, SO ANYONE ELSE HAVE A COMMENT?
WHAT I HAD SAID BEFORE.

WE DEFINITELY DO NEED

DIVERSITY
AND PERSPECTIVE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE SERVING IN

ANY CAPACITY THAT I KNOW
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OF
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THAT'S LOWER THAN 50 YEARS OLD.

SO IF WE REALLY WANT TO
START

BRINGING IN DIVERSE VOICES
AND

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE
WHO

ARE LITERALLY LIVING ON THE

MARGINS, THE COMMUNITY, THE

QUEER, THE TRANS, THE

DISABILITY

COMMUNITIES, WE NEED TO START

THINKING ABOUT

WHAT WE'RE DOING

TO ALLOW THEM TO SIT HERE
OR SIT

ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR
SIT ON ANYTHING, HONESTLY.

I KNOW WE'RE IN A FINANCIAL SET
OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

TO BE HONEST IT'S GOING TO
TAKE

A LOT OF PEOPLE A LOT OF TIME
TO

DIG US OUT OF

THE SITUATION
WE'RE IN.

THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, AND I
WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON.

YES, I DIDN'T

HAVE THE

OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE THE
LAST TIME THIS CAME UP.

I DID ASK FOR THE AGENDA TO BE
RESHUFFLED, AND I WAS DENIED.

SO I'M WEIGHING IN ON THIS
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FOR
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THE FIRST TIME.

AND I HAVE TO SAY I'M

NOT SUPPORTIVE
OF THIS.

I DON'T BELIEVE PEOPLE RUN
FOR
CITY COUNCIL FOR MONEY.

I DON'T THINK MONEY IS
THE
MOTIVATION.

AND IF I THOUGHT IT WAS, I
MIGHT
FEEL DIFFERENTLY.

BUT HAVING SERVED ON THE

COUNCIL

FOR TEN YEARS, I THINK THAT WE

SERVE BECAUSE WE'RE SERVING OUR
COMMUNITY.

AND I DON'T KNOW THIS KIND OF
A

RAISE, GIVING OURSELVES A
THREE
TIME RAISE, 217% INCREASE AT
THIS TIME MAKES SENSE.

I WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT A AMOUNT, BUT TO GO TO
THE
MAXIMUM OF $950, I JUST
CANNOT

SUPPORT THAT WITH WHERE THE CITY
IS WITH THE FISCAL CRISIS.

SO I -- I WISH I HAD BEEN
ABLE

TO WEIGH IN WHEN THIS WAS

DIRECTED TO STAFF AND LEAVES
ME

A LITTLE IN AN

UNCOMFORTABLE
SPOT TONIGHT.

BUT I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING
IT.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER.

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YEAH, I WOULD SUPPORT A
MORE
GRADUAL INCREASE.

KIND OF ALL OR NOTHING, BUT
WE

DEFINITELY NEED QUALITY
PEOPLE
TO COME UP AND SERVE.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT

MONETARY

COMPENSATION IS NEEDED FOR
THE

PEOPLE THAT ARE MAYBE YOUNGER

THAT HAVE A LOT OF OTHER
THINGS

GOING ONTO MAKE IT WORTH IT
BECAUSE I THINK I SPEND 40
HOURS

CRAMMED INTO TWO DAYS A
WEEK

DEALING WITH THE CITY FOR --
FOR
$300.

AND THAT IS ABOUT LOVE,

BUT NOT

EVERYBODY CAN LOVE IT THAT
HARD.

AND -- AND, YOU KNOW, I
THINK,

YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING
TO

ATTRACT SOME PEOPLE WITH FULL

FAMILIES AND FULL LIVES, THAT

LITTLE BIT OF COMPENSATION
KIND

OF, LIKE, EASES THE PAIN
ON
THAT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING
IT.

SO WE DID HAVE A PRETTY FULL

DISCUSSION ON THIS A MONTH
OR

MORE AGO, AND THERE WERE
MANY
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REASONS THAT WE GAVE WHY WE
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WERE

IN SUPPORT
OF IT.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS IN
1984 WHEN THIS RATE WAS
ESTABLISHED, IT WAS $300
IN
1984.

IF YOU ESCALATE THAT TO
2026,
THE AMOUNT IS ACTUALLY $950.

SO WHAT $300 COULD HAVE BOUGHT
IN 1984, $950 CAN BUY TODAY.

SO TO ME THAT'S A

RESPECTFUL
POINT OF VIEW.

AND FOR ALL THE OTHER REASONS

THAT THIS LAW
WAS ESTABLISHED.

SO, I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE I
THINK
IN 1984 YOU COULD RENT
A
ONE-BEDROOM STUDIO FOR $300, AND

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN

DO THAT
TODAY.

SO TO ME IT'S ABOUT EQUITY
AND

ITS ABOUT RESPECT, SO I WILL
BE
SUPPORTING THIS.

SO I WOULD PREFER TO
JUST

SUPPORT THE FULL RATE
RATHER
THAN LOWER IT AT THIS TIME.

AND I'M WONDERING IF WE
SHOULD
WAIT FOR MAYOR McLEWIS TO
BE

JOINING US TO MAKE
THIS
DECISION.

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OR, YEAH, WHAT ARE YOUR
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--
I'M

JUST ASKING WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS
ARE.

WE ALL HAVE LIVES AND MOST
OF

US DO THE BEST WE CAN TO
MAKE
EVERY

MEETING, BUT IT'S ALMOST

IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO, SO
I'M

GOING TO, AGAIN, STATE MY

SUPPORT AND STATE IT

FOR THE
FULL
AMOUNT.

IS THERE A
MOTION?
SO MOVED.

I'M MOVING STAFF'S
RECOMMENDATION.

AND I'LL SECOND THAT.

CAN WE TAKE A ROLL CALL
PLEASE?
THANK YOU.

SO MOVED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER

ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED BY
VICE

MAYOR MAURER TO APPROVE
THE

WAIVING OF THE FIRST READING
AND

INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCE
FOR

CITY COUNCIL COMPENSATION IN
THE
AMOUNT AS PROPOSED AS $950.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER.

YES.

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COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON.

NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN.

YES.

VICE MAYOR MAURER.

YES.

MAILER McLEWIS IS ABSENT.

THE MOTION PASSES 3-1-1
WITH

COUNCIL MEMBERS CARTER,

ZOLLMAN,

AND VICE MAYOR MAURER IN
SUPPORT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON IN
OPPOSITION, AND MAYOR McLEWIS
ABSENT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS
THE

DISCUSSION

AND CONSIDERATION OF

THE SUSPENSION OF THE
TIERED

WATER RATES AND FISCAL YEAR
'26,
'27 WATER RATE

INCREASES
EFFECTIVE JULY 1st UNTIL
SUCH A

TIME THAT A NEW WATER RATE
STUDY
CAN BE
COMPLETED.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN,
VICE
MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

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SO AS THE VICE MAYOR

STATED,

THIS PROPOSED RESOLUTION TONIGHT

WOULD DO TWO
THINGS.

FIRST, IT WOULD SUSPEND THE
CITY'S TIERED WATER RATES.

AND THE CITY'S TIERED WATER

RATES, THE CITY HAS TWO CHARGES

A MONTHLY RATE THAT'S DIVIDED
INTO.

THERE'S A FIXED COST
THAT'S

BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE
METER,

AND THEN THERE IS A
CHARGE

THAT'S BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF
WATER USED.

THAT RATE DIFFERS DEPENDING ON

WHAT TYPE OF CUSTOMER YOU
ARE

AND WHAT -- HOW MUCH WATER
YOU
USE.

SO SUSPENDING THOSE RATES WOULD

MAKE EVERYONE PAY THE
SAME

AMOUNT OF -- SAME RATE FOR
WATER
USE.

THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGE TO
THE

FIXED MONTHLY COST THAT IS BASED
ON THE METER SIZE.

THERE'S A CHART AT THE BOTTOM OF

THE STAFF REPORT THAT SHOWS WHAT

THAT WOULD BE -- WHAT
THE

CURRENT RATES ARE AND WHAT THE
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22 PROPOSED RATES WOULD BE.

THE PROPOSED RATE FOR A

THOUSAND
GALLONS OF WATER WOULD BE $5.

FOR ALL CUSTOMERS.

THE SECOND PART OF THIS

RESOLUTION WOULD SUSPEND THE

ANTICIPATED OR RATHER

SCHEDULED

WATER RATE INCREASE THAT WAS
TO
GO INTO EFFECT ON JULY 1,
2026.

BASED ON THE SCHEDULE --

FIVE-YEAR SCHEDULE OF RATES THAT

THE COUNCIL APPROVED BACK IN
2024, THERE WAS ANTICIPATED TO
BE A 4% RATE INCREASE ON
JULY
1st.

IF THE COUNCIL ADOPTS THIS

RESOLUTION, THAT RATE

INCREASE
WOULD BE SUSPENDED.

AND SO THE 2025 RATES
WOULD

CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR THE
FIXED

MONTHLY CHARGE AS WELL ASAS

RATE BASEDBASED THE AMOUNT OF
WATER USED.

AND THE COUNCIL MET IN
CLOSED

SESSION LAST WEEK

TO DISCUSS

ISSUES REGARDING WATER AND SEWER

RATES, AND UNDER THREATS
OF

LITIGATION THAT THE COUNCIL HAS
RECEIVED IT.

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AND DURING THAT MEETING
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THE

COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF
TO DO
FOUR THINGS.

FIRST TO CREATE AN ISSUE IN
RFP

FOR A NEW WATER AND SEWER RATE
STUDY.

SECOND WAS TO CREATE AN RFP
FOR

A NEW COST ALLOCATION PLAN
FOR

THE WATER AND SEWER AND PRICED

FUNDS AND WHAT THEY -- HOW THEY

REIMBURSED THE GENERAL FUND FOR

SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE GENERAL
FUND.

AND THEN TO BRING THIS ITEM

FORWARD TONIGHT, THAT SCHEDULED
TONIGHT, AND THEN ON JULY 21st

TO BRING FORWARD AN AGENDA ITEM

TO FORGIVE THE LOAN THAT GENERAL

FUND PREVIOUSLY MADE TO
SEWER
ENTERPRISE FUND.

SO TONIGHT THE ONLY
ACTION

BEFORE THE COUNCIL IS THE

RESOLUTION, BUT I DO WANT
TO

TOUCH ON PREVIOUSLY CITY
STAFF

HAS TAKEN STEPS TO

IMPLEMENT TIME
TRACKING.

THEY MET WITH SPRING BOOK TO
SEE

HOW THIS COULD BE

INCORPORATED
INTO THE CURRENT SYSTEM.

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SPRING BROOK IS PROPAIRING A
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DEMO FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT.

IN PART WHY THE COUNCIL HAS

DIRECTED THE FREEZE AND FOR
TO

FREEZE TO APPLY INTO THE WATER

RATE STUDY COMES INTO -- IS

UPDATED SO THAT STAFF HAS TIME

TO IMPLEMENT THESE CHANGES,
THAT

WE CAN BRING ON A CONSULTANT
WHO

CAN LET US KNOW

EXACTLY HOW

MUCH -- WHAT PERIOD OF TIME OF

TIME TRACKING IS NECESSARY

BEFORE THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED
TO A -- TO A STUDY.

IS ONE MONTH ENOUGH,

SHOULD THEY

GO ON FOR A LONGER PERIOD
OF
TIME?
THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

THEN A NEW COST AND ALLOCATION

AND RATE STUDY POTENTIALLY
GO
HAND IN HAND.

THE COST ALLOCATION MIGHT
IMPACT

THE RATE STUDY DEPENDING ON
WHAT

IT SAYS -- YOU KNOW, LOWERING

THE RATES THAT ARE NECESSARY OR
INCREASING IT.

WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE
RATE
STUDY SAYS.

BUT THE ITEM BEFORE THE

COUNCIL
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TONIGHT IS A RESOLUTION
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TO

SUSPEND THE RATE INCREASE
THAT

WOULD HAVE GONE INTO EFFECT JULY
1 AND TO ELIMINATE THE TIERED
WATER RATES.

AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL
PAUSE

TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY

QUESTIONS

FROM THE
COUNCIL TONIGHT.

JUST ONE THING
I'LL ADD.

THIS WILL
HAVE A FISCAL IMPACT.

THE STAFF REPORT DETAILS
WHAT

THAT WOULD BE AS WELL AS
THE
AGENDA.

THAT FISCAL IMPACT IS ASSUMING A

FULL -- THIS, YOU KNOW,

REMAINS
IN EFFECT FOR THE FULL YEAR.

BUT, OF COURSE, IF -- IF THE

STUDY IS ADOPTED SOONER,
IT

MAY -- THE IMPACT MAY BE
DIFFERENT.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL PAUSE FOR
ANY
QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER?
NO?

OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON.

SO I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA

ITEM, AND IT JUST SAYS TO

ELIMINATE
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TIERED, BUT HOW
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DOES

THAT IMPACT OUR COMMERCIAL

HIRES, THAT BYWATER FROM CITY
OF
SEBASTOPOL?

DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE

ELIMINATING

TIERED FOR
WATER HAULERS?

YES, EVERYONE WOULD BE
PAID

THE -- WOULD PAY THE SAME RATE

REGARDLESS OF USE CLASS OR HOW
MUCH WATER IS USED.

THEY'D PAY THE SAME $5.22 PER A

THOUSAND GALLONS
OF WATER.

OKAY.

AND THEN, ALEX, CAN YOU SPEAK
TO

WHEN WE VOTED IN TIERED
RATES,

THAT WAS AN OPTION THAT OTHER

CITIES USED AND WAS GIVEN TO
US

AS -- IT FELT LIKE IT WAS
OKAY,

AUTHORIZED -- TO ME I FRANKLY
VOTED FOR IT.

IT MADE SENSE TO ME.

YOU USED MORE, YOU PAID MORE.

I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION
AT
LENGTH.

AND NOW WE'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT

TIERED IS NOT THE BEST OPTION,

AND SO THIS IS A

RECOMMENDATION

FROM TONIGHT TO CHANGE THAT
FROM

OUR PREVIOUS ADVICE THAT WE
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WERE
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GIVEN, CORRECT?
CORRECT.

BUT TO ADD SOME NUANCE TO IT,
SO

TIERED RATES ARE LEGAL AND

REMAIN LEGAL IF THE TIERS
ARE

BASED ON DIFFERENT COSTS
THAT

APPLY TO SERVING THE DIFFERENT
TIERS
OF RATES.

OUR RATE STUDY ESTABLISHES TIERS

BASED ON PEAKING COSTS, WHICH TO

OVERSIMPLIFY IS TO ESSENTIALLY

SAYING SYSTEM DESIGN TO
SERVE

THE MAXIMUM DEMAND, SYSTEMSYSTEM

TO BE BIGGER, THERE ARE BIGGER

COSTS, AND YOU ASSIGN SOME
OF

THOSE COSTS TO HIGH-VOLUME
USERS

BECAUSE IF EVERYONE USED
LESS,

THEN YOU COULD HAVE SMALLER

PUMPS, SMALLER PIPES, THAT
SORT
OF THING.

SO THAT'S THE DESIGN OF WHAT
OUR

STUDY WAS DESIGNED
ON.

SINCE THAT TIME OUR STUDY WAS

ADOPTED WITH MOST RATES,

THERE'S

BEEN THREE ISSUES THAT THE
COURT

OF OPINION DEALING WITH TIERED
WATER RATES.

TWO OF THEM STRUCK DOWN THE
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TIERS AS SAYING THE AGENCY
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INVOLVED HADN'T MET ITS
BURDEN

TO SHOW THAT THE TIERS
CORRESPONDED TO INCREASED COSTS.

THOSE TWO CASES HAD TO DO

WITH -- WITH AGENCIES WHO
BASE

THEIR FEES ON PEAKING COSTS
JUST
LIKE WE DO.

A THIRD AGENCY'S WERE UPHELD BY
THE
COURT OF APPEALS.

THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT
HAS

TAKEN UP THE CASE TO ANSWER
THAT

QUESTION, BUT A DECISION IS
NOT
EXPECTED FOR, YOU KNOW, 18 PLUS

MONTHS ON THAT,

AND SO I THINK I

WOULDN'T NECESSARILY

SAY OUR
CURRENT RATES ARE ILLEGAL.

I WOULD SAY THAT THE LAW IS
LESS

CLEAR THAN IT WAS AT THE
TIME,
AND

THE COUNCIL HAS DECIDED

RATHER THAN WAIT THAT AMOUNT
OF

TIME FOR THE SUPREME

COURT'S

DECISION TO INSTEAD, YOU KNOW,

PROACTIVELY ADDRESS THIS
ISSUE

GIVEN THE -- THE RECENT COURT
CASES.

THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILED
EXPLANATION.

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OTHER QUESTIONS?
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OKAY, WE CAN GO OUT TO PUBLIC
COMMENT.
[ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]
IT IS A DATA-DRIVEN DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS HOW THE CITY CAN RESTORE THE $5.5

BILLION APPLIED BY THE GRAND JURY CONTINUE WITH INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES, REMOVE TIERS AND KEEP WATER AND SEWER RATES IF NECESSARY. THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS IDENTIFIED TIERED RATES AS LEGALLY VULNERABLE. THE COUNCIL'S ADVOCATES FOR THE CITY TO REMOVE THE TIERS . THIS IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE THERE'S

A CONFLICT OF INTEREST BETWEEN THE CITIES DUTY TO THE CITY AND THE CITY'S JUDICIARY DUTY TO THE RATEPAYERS. THIS ACTION OF SIMPLY REDUCING REVENUE IS NOT GOOD FOR THE RATEPAYERS. IT RUNS THE RISK OF JEOPARDIZING NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR, WHICH WAS IDENTIFIED BY DIRECTOR HART. THE CITY IS IN A

LEGAL PINNACLE WITH THE GRAND JURY AND WITH ITS TIERED RATES BECAUSE IT NEVER HAD A RATEPAYER ADVOCATE GROUPS LIKE US DOES NOW. THE E FOC IS A GROUP FOR RATEPAYERS AND THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. IN ADDITION, THEY NEVER RECOMMENDED A NEW RATE STUDY. THE REPAYMENT OF THE LEGAL FEES, WHICH I MENTIONED EARLIER. PLEASE HAVE ALEX SHOW THE INVOICES THAT HE ACTUALLY DID

THAT WORK, AND WE RECOMMENDED TIME TRACKING, WHICH I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THE CITY IS STARTING TO IMPLEMENT. OBVIOUSLY, YOU WOULD NEED TIME TRACK FOR

AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TO GET AN ACCURATE DATA ON HOW MUCH TIME IS SPENT ON THE WATER AND SEWER. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IS THERE ANYONE. LEE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER? YES. I THINK JUST DECIDING UNILATERALLY TO FREEZE RATES IS WRONG ON SEVERAL LEVELS. AS KATE SAID, THEY HAVE A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DIFFERENT

CHANGES THAT WOULD MAKE US MOVE MORE TOWARD COMPLIANCE AND AT THE SAME TIME BALANCE OFTEN NEED AND FREEZE RATES. ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, I THINK, AND

I'M SURE COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON WAS THERE, BUT THE COUNCIL OF THE TIME VOTED TO REDUCE RATES, I THINK AND THAT -- COMING OUT OF COVID. THAT RAPIDLY DEPLETED THE RESERVES BOTH THE WATER AND SEWER. SEWER WENT $1 MILLION IN DEBT. THE WATER WENT ALMOST BANKRUPT ALMOST TO ZERO AND ONE OF THE

REASONS FOR THE HIGH RATES IS THERE WAS AN URGENT NEED TO REPLACE THOSE RESERVES WHERE YOU CAN BORROW MONEY. SO THERE'S A CONSEQUENCE TO THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS. THIS DECISION, YOU WILL BE BACK BELOW -- DEPLETE THE RESERVES ENTIRELY WITHIN THREE YEARS WITH THIS DECISION. YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I GUESS THAT IS MY BASIC COMMENT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXTIVA COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. SEEING NONE I WILL GO BACK OUT.

MARY, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.

YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
GO AHEAD.

I WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT DECISION, AND AS THE ENTERPRISE

FUND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEMBER, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT MOST OF THE

RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOT BEING FOLLOWED THROUGH AND I'M NOT BEING DISCUSSED -- OTHER AVENUES OF RESOLUTION THAT ARE BEING FOCUSED ON. IT'S GREAT

THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TIERS , BUT WE DID NOT RECOMMEND A NEW CASE

STUDY UNTIL TIME TRACKING AND SEWER MASTERPLAN AND THE GRAND JURY RESTITUTION WAS IMPLEMENTED. AND -- I NEED TO LOOK AT MY NOTES. WE JUST -- WE

WANT TO SEE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING. SO THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU. SORRY, MY NOTES ARE NOT COMING UP. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS. I WILL GO OUT TO SEE HIM. KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.

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SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS NOW PRETTY CONSISTENTLY FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS THAT I CONTINUE TO HEAR I AM BOGGLED BY.

WHAT THEY SUGGEST TO ME IS A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE ISSUE, AND IT

SUGGESTS TO ME THAT COUNCIL HAS NOT DONE A DEEP ENOUGH DIVE INTO THIS ISSUE

BECAUSE THE QUESTIONS THEY ARE ASKING SUGGEST THAT THEY HAVE NOT READ THE REPORTS, THEY HAVE NOT DUG INTO THIS WELL ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND. AND I DON'T

KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM THE FACT THAT

YOU FAILED YOUR FIDUCIARY DUTY TO PROTECT THE ENTERPRISE FUND OVER THE LAST

NINE YEARS AS THE COST ALLOCATION HAS SKYROCKETED TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE

WATCHING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THINGS LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET AND THAT YOU DID NOT SEE THAT. AND YOU WERE NOT LOOKING FOR THAT AND YOU ARE NOT ASKING ABOUT THAT FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS. TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE AT NOW, $5.5 MILLION OF MISALLOCATED FUNDS. SO THE KIND OF LITTLE

CHISEL AWAY AT SOLUTIONS THAT YOU ARE CONTINUING TO DO AT THIS POINT

WITHOUT LOOKING AT WHAT YOU FAILED TO DO OVER THE LAST NINE YEARS, THAT IS THE TROUBLING PART. IF PLAYING NAÏVE AND ASKING QUESTIONS THAT SEEM LIKE YOU'RE IGNORANT TO THE ISSUE IS A WAY TO PROTECT YOURSELF, SO BE IT. BUT JUST KNOW THAT YOU HAVE $5.5 MILLION OF RATEPAYER MONEY THAT WAS MISALLOCATED TO THE GENERAL FUND. THE DECISION TONIGHT WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT

IF YOU DON'T MISALLOCATED MONEY IN THE FUTURE, WHAT IS IT ACTUALLY CAUSED TO

RUN THE WATER DISTRICT AND THE WASTEWATER DISTRICT AND I ASSURE YOU IT COSTS FAR LESS WHEN YOU STOP MISALLOCATED FUNDS TO THE GENERAL FUND.

Agenda Item Number 1
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE CHAMBERS. IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS? I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YES. I APPRECIATE THE ONGOING PUBLIC COMMENT HERE TONIGHT AND ALL THAT WE'VE RECEIVED. I APPRECIATE THE WATER AND SEWER OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WORK. I

BELIEVE THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS ALEX POINTED OUT, THIS MIGHT BE A GREAT DISCUSSION NOW HAS NOT BEEN A GREAT DISCUSSION. CLOSED SESSION WAS VERY THOROUGH. AND I THINK THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BRING US

CLOSER TO COMPLIANCE AND ALSO IT DOES MAKE SENSE FROM A LEGAL POINT OF VIEW,

GIVEN THE SPLIT IN AUTHORITY OF THESE PAST COURT CASES THAT WE DO TRY TO

CORRECT AND ANTICIPATE THE WORST POSSIBLE THING THAT COULD HAPPEN IF THE SUPREME COURT RULES LIKE EVERYTHING IS NOT GREAT. AT LEAST WE'VE MADE STEPS.

WE'VE MADE STEPS WITH THE NEW COST ALLOCATION AND I UNDERSTAND THERE WERE

MANY COMMENTS OUT THERE THE FACT THAT YOU CANNOT DO A COST ALLOCATION WITHOUT -- STAFF TIME. WE HEARD FROM MARY. THEY ARE GOING TRY TO DO THAT. IN

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT IS MISSING IN THIS IS THE FACT THAT ALEX DID SAY

PART OF WHAT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS IS TO BRING IN A CONSULTANT TO TELL US HOW LONG SHOULD WE BE DOING THIS TIME TRACKING? SHOULD BE A MONTH, SHOULD BE SIX MONTHS? WE ARE NOW GOING TO BE RELYING ON CONSULTANTS TO

GUIDE US INTO THEIR DIRECTION WHERE I'M HOPING WE CAN BE WHERE EVERYBODY WANTS US TO BE. JUST BY WAY OF WHAT IS RIGHT AND ALSO BY WAY OF PROP 218 . I DO

UNDERSTAND WHAT ALEX SAID THAT DOING THE COST ALLOCATION REPEAT IS TIED TOGETHER WITH THE RATE STUDY AS WELL. THOSE TWO MAKE SENSE. SO STAFF'S

RECOMMENDATION IS THE BEST THAT WE COULD GET IN THE BEST THAT I CAN GET BASED UPON THE ADVICE THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS TONIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER

IF I COULD SLIGHTLY SPEAK FOR THE EFOC, THE THINGS THAT KATE AND MARY ARE

TRYING TO BRING UP HIS -- IF WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY MONEY FROM THE INCOME SOURCE, WHICH IS WHAT FREEZING RATES DOES, WE ARE NOT FEEDING BACK INTO IT. WE ARE ONLY REDUCING THE REVENUE. WE ARE NOT ADDING TO THE REVENUE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE FIGURE OUT BOTH SIDES OF IT. THEIR HOPE IS THAT -- THE COMMITTEES

HOPE IS THAT WE ATTRIBUTE SOME MONEY BACK INTO THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS IN SOME FASHION. I DO SUPPORT CUTTING THE TIERED RATES BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE Agenda Item Number 1
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RIGHT -- THE FREEZING OF THE RATES, I WOULD LIKE TO FREEZE THIS UNTIL WE ARE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR WHAT THINGS COST. I DO SUPPORT THOSE. BUT THERE ALSO HAS TO BE SOME WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ENTERPRISE FUND IS WHOLE. AND IF WE DO THAT FOR VERY LONG, IF WE GO FOR 3 OR FOUR MONTHS WITHOUT MAKING SURE THE

ENTERPRISE FUND IS FUNDED, LIKE IF WE ARE NOT GETTING MONEY BACK INTO IT IN SOME WAY, AND WE DO JEOPARDIZE LIKE HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THE 10 YEAR PLAN

FOR ALL THE BUDGET WE HAVE LEFT TO DO, WHICH WE HAVE NICELY SCHEDULED OUT AND I APPRECIATE THAT PUBLIC WORKS. SO WE ARE DOING A GREAT JOB BY GETTING ON TOP OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE. I

THINK THAT IS SUPER POSITIVE AND WHEN THIS TAKES SOMETHING AWAY, I DON'T WANT

TO NOT DO THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE CAN AND TO THE ENTERPRISE FUND IN LATER DAYS. THIS WILL BE JUST A ONE-TIME THING. THIS IS FIRST STEPS. WE ARE DOING A LOT OF FIRST STEPS. WE HAVE THE EFOC. WE ARE A NEW COUNCIL. WE WERE NOT HERE NINE YEARS AGO. EVEN IF ONE MEMBER WAS, WE STILL CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING BUT GO FORWARD. SO ALL WE CAN DO IS TRY TO A NEW -- AND WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN -- DOWN TO DIRECT TIMING. WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO

DIRECT TIME OTHER THINGS, WE JUST HAVEN'T SORTED IT YET, SO WE ARE GETTING TO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ARE HOPING TO GET TOWARDS GOING FORWARD. BUT IT'S JUST

GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT TO GET THERE, AND I APPLAUD STAFF FOR DEALING WITH QUITE A BIG HIT TO ITS POCKET SUDDENLY. AND IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND COMING RIGHT IS GENERALLY DIFFICULT. THE SOONER WE CAN DO IT, THE BETTER. BUT I

DO HOPE THAT WE DO ADDRESS SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES QUITE SOON BECAUSE THIS IS JUST ONE ANGLE OF IT.

Agenda Item Number 1

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON
YEAH, I WANTED TO WEIGH IN. IT IS A BIT FRUSTRATING BECAUSE AS ONE

COUNCILMEMBER ALREADY SAID THE PUBLIC IS AWARE WE HAD A CLOSED SESSION ON THIS AND IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE NOT HEARING ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE CERTAINLY DO OUR HOMEWORK AND WE'VE READ THE GRAND JURY REPORT. WE HAVE READ ALL THE LETTERS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN BY EMAIL. BUT I THINK, AT LEAST BEGIN

FOR MYSELF, WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE A STEP-BY-STEP APPROACH JUST BECAUSE WE

HAVE ALL THIS FEEDBACK WE CANNOT IMPLEMENT EVERYTHING AT ONCE, AND WITH THE MOVE TONIGHT WE ARE TRYING TO HOLD THINGS SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A STEP-BYSTEP APPROACH. I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR A YEAR, BUT ONCE WE GET TO THE NEXT STEP, WE MIGHT COURSE CORRECT AND MAYBE IT IS FOR YEAR. MAYBE WE ARE NOT HOLDING WATER RATE. BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WE ARE TAKING A PAUSE AND AT THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO. WE ARE MAKING SOME MOVES BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE THE TIERED RATES. AGAIN, I'VE SAID EVEN THOUGH I VOTED FOR, I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS FLAWED. SO AS WE LEARN INFORMATION WE COURSE CORRECT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO OVER TIME. SO I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS

TONIGHT AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE FEEDBACK THAT I KNOW WE HAVE

RECOMMENDATIONS NOW COMING FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS AND WE ARE LISTENING TO THOSE. RECOMMENDATIONS STILL, WE NEED TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL BE VOTING ON TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOSS OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS COMING UP,

BUT I'M ALSO GOING TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

I WILL MOVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND .

SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN AND -- I'M SORRY.

SO MOVED BY -- DID YOU SECOND? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN AND

SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER TO SUSPEND THE TIERED WATER RATES EFFECTIVE JULY 1st UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THE NEW WATER RATE STUDY CAN BE

COMPLETED AND REQUEST VERIFICATION FOLLOWING THE FIRST BILLING CYCLE AND

THE NEW RATE STUDY STRUCTURE THAT ALL WATER COUNTS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED

AND UPDATED TO REMOVE -- ALL CUSTOMERS ARE BILLED -- IN ADDITION TO THE MONTHLY SERVICE CHARGE.
[ ROLL CALL ] THE MOTION PASSES 4-1.

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MOVING ON. DOES ANYONE NEED A BREAK BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 11.CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST FOR DIRECTION TO STAFF TO

PREPARE ZONING CODE/MAP AMENDMENTS AND/OR RETURN WITH OPTIONS TO ALLOW

COMMERCIAL OUTDOOR BARBECUE (BBQ) OPERATIONS WITH PERMITS IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS OR ON SPECIFIC PARCELS.

Agenda Item Number 1
I WILL KICK THIS OFF AND JANE IS AVAILABLE FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS AS WELL. SO

AS THE COUNCIL IS AWARE, THE CITY PREVIOUSLY COMMENCED ENFORCEMENT ACTION

AGAINST -- BARBECUE BECAUSE THE CURRENT USE IS NOT ALLOWED BY THE CURRENT ZONING CODE. CITY STAFF SUBSEQUENTLY MET WITH THE BUSINESS OWNER AND AS HAS

HAPPENED SOMEWHAT FREQUENTLY IN CITIES AGREED TO SUSPEND ENFORCEMENT

WHILE PROGRESS IS BEING MADE IN GOOD FAITH TO RESOLVING THE ISSUE ON BOTH SIDES. THE -- COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER REQUESTED

THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE. TO CHANGE THE ZONING CODE SO THAT THIS BUSINESS WOULD BECOME AN ALLOWED USE OR CONDITIONAL ALLOWED USE. BY WAY OF

BACKGROUND, THIS TYPE OF OUTDOOR BARBECUE USE IS CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED

USE IN ALL THE CITIES COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS ACCEPT THIS PARTICULAR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. SO AT A HIGH LEVEL THERE ARE TWO WAYS THE CITY COULD ADDRESS THIS.

ONE IS THEY COULD ALLOW THESE TYPE OF USES AS A CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED USE IN THIS DISTRICT AS A WHOLE. ALTERNATIVELY THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY COULD BE

REZONED IN SOME WAY TO ALLOW THIS USE ON ONLY THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY

EITHER AS A PERMITTED USE, WHICH WOULD BE UNIQUE FOR THE CITY OR MORE

COMMONLY AS A CONDITIONAL PERMITTED USE, IN WHICH CASE THE PROCESS TWO MEN

THE CODE AND FOR THE BUSINESS TO APPLY FOR A CUP COULD HAPPEN SIMULTANEOUSLY. A CONDITION OF USE PERMIT IF APPROVED BY THE CITY COULD INCLUDE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. SO THIS ITEM IS BEFORE THE COUNCIL TONIGHT TO

EITHER GIVE SPECIFIC DIRECTION TO STAFF ON PREPARING AN ORDINANCE NOW OR TO

GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A FULLER ANALYSIS OF THE OPTIONS BASED ON PAST FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL . STAFF DID NOT DO THAT HERE PRIOR TO

GETTING FULL AUTHORITY FROM THE COUNCIL TO SPEND TIME DIGGING INTO THOSE OPTIONS AND WHAT THEY MIGHT MEAN. AT A HIGHER LEVEL YOU EXPECT AN

ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND CITYWIDE OR A ZONE WIDE RATHER THAN A PARCEL SPECIFIC AMENDMENT. OTHER IMPACTS MIGHT BE BIGGER. ON THE OTHER HAND, AS A GENERAL PLANNING MATTER WE DON'T LIKE TO REZONED ONE PARCEL AT A TIME. THAT MAY BEEN DESIGNATED FOR A VERY SPECIFIC REASON. WITHOUT I WILL PAUSE AND I KNOW JANE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN.

THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT AND I'M TRYING TO DO HOMEWORK AHEAD OF TIME. I READ THE STAFF REPORT AND SENT QUESTIONS TO MARY. I WANT TO KNOW BOTH OF

THE OPTIONS I THINK ARE GREAT BECAUSE MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS ABOUT PUBLIC

HEALTH, AND I SAID TO EVALUATE BOTH OF THE OPTIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT, WHAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND SHE SAID IT WOULD BE THREE HOURS.

THAT IS CORRECT. MY ROLE WOULD JUST BE HELPING TO REVIEW WHAT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW WOULD BE NECESSARY AND REVIEWING DRAFT ORDINANCES.

THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WOULD BE DOING MOST OF THE WORK AND THE ANALYSIS.

AND THEN I WANTED TO KNOW THE OPTIONS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IT

SOUNDED LIKE MARY COULD NOT PONTIFICATE ON THAT UNTIL YOU DO THE ANALYSIS IF WE GIVE YOU THREE HOURS. IS THAT RIGHT?

I THINK IT'S MORE IF YOU GIVE MARY -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PUT IN THERE THE STAFF

TIME FOR PLANNING IF YOU GIVE AUTHORIZE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO SPEND

THE TIME TO DO IT, THEY WILL BE DOING MORE OF THAT ANALYSIS OF THE PROS AND CONS OF BOTH OPTIONS.

AND MY LAST ONE IF WE GO WITH BOTH OF THEM, THEN WHATEVER OPTION YOU BRING

BACK WE WILL BE ABLE TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE BECAUSE FOR ME THAT'S MY PRIMARY CONCERN.

YES. YES AND JUST TO CLARIFY BOTH OPTIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF

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ALSO A CUP COMES THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND POTENTIALLY THE Agenda Item Number 1
COUNCIL WILL REVIEW INDIVIDUAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

THANKS.

ARE WE HAVING TECHNICAL PROBLEMS? OKAY. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THE SCREEN TURNS BLUE. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AN ESTIMATE OF THE

PLANNING DEPARTMENT HOURLY -- HOW MANY HOURS THEY THINK THIS WOULD TAKE FOR THEM TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH OPTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE ESTIMATE WHENEVER WE HAVE TO BRING IN ITEM

THAT INCLUDES RESEARCH AND PREPARATION OF STAFF REPORT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, IT WILL BE ABOUT 20 HOURS OF STAFF TIME.

SO DEPENDS ON HOW YOU STRUCTURE THIS IF YOU WANT US TO JUST BRING BACK OPTIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE LESS EXPENSIVE. IF YOU WANTED US TO

PREPARE SOMETHING AND TAKE IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD BE THE FULL 20 HOURS.

ONE ESTIMATE FOR JUST BRINGING BACK OPTIONS?
PROBABLY 12 TO 16 .

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER .

JUST REMIND ME ABOUT THE PROCESS HERE FOR A TEMPORARY REPRIEVE OR IS THIS PERMITTING LIKE PERMANENT?

SO THE OPTIONS BEFORE YOU WOULD BE PERMANENT CHANGES TO THE ZONING CODE, AND IF THE USE PERMIT IS ISSUED THAT'S PERMANENT TO CONTINUE THAT USE.

OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON

SINCE I'M NOT THERE TONIGHT, I WONDER IF THE CITY HAS ANY UPDATES ON THIS

BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF RUMORS OUT THERE ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA RELATED TO THE BUSINESS, AND I'M NOT SURE THE BUSINESS IS REPRESENTED TONIGHT. I'M JUST CURIOUS. I DON'T WANT TO AUTHORIZE A LARGE NUMBER OF STAFF HOURS TO TRY TO

COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS AND MITIGATION FOR THE BUSINESS THAT WAS BEFORE US

WEEKS AGO WITH A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE SAYING HOW THEY LOVE IT HERE AND THEY WANT TO STAY HERE AND SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE GOVERNMENT MOVES SLOWER. SO

HERE WE ARE NOW BRINGING BACK A STAFF ITEM AND I DON'T WANT TO DO IT IN A SILO

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT AND SOMETHING COMES OUT IN TWO DAYS THAT SHOW SUPER CLUELESS. ANYWAYS AS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND I

BROUGHT BACK MAYBE WE CAN HEAR FROM MARY AND UPDATE ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY WITH THIS BUSINESS. ARE THEY WANTING TO STAY IN SEBASTOPOL? ARE THEY WANTING US TO LOOK AT ZONING OPTIONS FOR THIS PROPERTY? WHERE WE AT WITH THINGS? BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THINGS APPROPRIATELY.MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT LOCATIONS . THEY BEEN SEARCHING CERTAIN LOCATIONS. THEY HAVE NOT FOUND A SUITABLE LOCATION IS MY UNDERSTANDING. I'VE NOT GONE ANY FURTHER THAN THAT.

WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION,

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY BEEN TRYING TO FIND ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS THAT WORK FOR THEM BUT I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING BEYOND THAT.

OKAY. WE CAN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE DISCUSSION OF THE DIRECTION FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATION. WE WILL DO CHAMBERS FIRST AND THEN GO TO ZOOM. TO WANT TO GO AHEAD.

HERE BEFORE YOU NOT EXPLICITLY'S TAKING ON BEHALF OF THE BUSINESS AS THEY

HAVE REPRESENTATIVES ON ZOOM WHO WILL BE JOINING AND SPEAKING MORE

EXPLICITLY, BUT I WILL SAY YOU HAVE DRAGGED THE CART AND AS A CITY STAFF

TRYING TO ALLOCATE TIME AND DESIGNATING THE BUSINESS AS SUCH IS GOING TO HINDER THEIR ABILITY TO GET THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED TO FUNCTION. THEY ARE

LOOKING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN ORDER TO OPERATE THE BUSINESS TO SAVE THE CAPITAL THEY NEED TO MOVE OUTSIDE THE CITY. YOUR DECISIONS AND

ACTIONS HAVE MADE IT UNTENABLE FOR THEM TO STAY IN THIS LOCATION, AND THE

STAFF TIME IS AN ISSUE, PERHAPS WE ALLOCATE YOUR PRIORITIES AND THINK CLEARLY

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OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TIME IN YOUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR HAS TIME

TO TELL THEM THEY ARE NOT CAN APPROVE THE PERMITS, BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO THINK HOW PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR WORK TIME AND WORKPLACE OPPORTUNITIES.

THIS BUSINESS HAS BROUGHT IN A TON OF TOURISM TO THIS AREA AS A

REPRESENTATIVE AND FIFTH DISTRICT APPOINTEE TO THE SONOMA COUNTY TOURISM BOARD I'VE SEEN THE INCREASE THIS BUSINESS HAS BROADENED TO SEBASTOPOL. I CAN

SAY YOU ARE DRAGGING KEELS ON BEING SUPPORTIVE OF A BUSINESS IN THE AREA AND

IT'S UNFORTUNATE THEY HAVE TO LOOK OUTSIDE OF YOUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU

ALLOWED FOR OUTSIDE INFLUENCES FROM FOLKS WHO PREVIOUSLY SAT ON YOUR DAIS

TO CONDITIONALLY CHANGE YOUR OPINION ON HOW YOU LOOK AT YOU SUPPORT YOUR

SMALL BUSINESSES, AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE YOU HAVE MISSTEP TO AND WHERE

YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COURSE CORRECT AND LET THEM OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS AT THE HYATT POTENTIAL TO MAXIMIZE THEIR CAPSULE. THEY ARE GOING LEADER CITY. THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO STAY IF THEY WILL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE CRITICAL CRITICISM AND BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.

Agenda Item Number 1
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. OLIVER, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS BUSINESS STARTED COMPLETELY LEGALLY IN AN AREA WHICH THEY ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO DO WHAT THEY ARE DOING. GIVEN THE CITY HAS

TO SPEND ALL THIS TIME AND MONEY, MAYBE THEY SHOULD SPLIT THE COST WITH THE

BUSINESS SO THEY CAN COME TOGETHER RESPONSIBLY AND FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION TO THIS. IT SEEMS TO BE THAT THEY'VE DONE INCREDIBLY WELL PUBLICIZING THEMSELVES ON LOCAL TV CHANNELS. I'M NOT QUITE SURE THEY BEEN PLAYING THE GAME VERY WELL IN TERMS OF WORKING CLOSELY WITH CITY. THE CITY IS DRAGGING ITS FEET AS A

REACTIVE -- IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S A REACTION TO BUSINESS THAT NEVER SHOULD'VE BEEN OPERATING IN THE LOCATION IT'S IN CURRENTLY. AND THEN THERE'S A HUGE ISSUE

WITH THE LOCAL NEIGHBORS WHO DON'T WANT HAVE SMOKE COMING THROUGH THE WINDOWS EVERY MORNING. SO THIS IS A MESS. I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE TO GO BUT,

BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS THE BUSINESS IN GOOD FAITH SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTING MONEY TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU.

CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY? WE ARE HAVING TECHNICAL ISSUES HERE INSIDE, SO

MEMBERS ON ZOOM WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE ZOOM BACK UP ON OUR SCREEN AND HEAR. THANK YOU. I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS.

I AM DOUG. IN THIS CASE REZONING PROPOSAL IS A RED HERRING. THE CURRENT ZONING IS NOT THE PROBLEM. THE RESTAURANT IS NOT THE PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS THE

IMPACT OF THE SMOKE FROM THE RESTAURANT SMOKERS ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. NO MATTER THE ZONING UNTIL THE SMOKE IS EFFECTIVELY MITIGATED, THIS ISSUE WILL NOT BE RESOLVED. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. CAN YOU MEET YOURSELF, PLEASE. BUT CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I AM ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE BARBECUE. I WANTED TO FILL YOU IN A MOMENT BEEN DOING SO FAR. FIRST TO BACKCHECK. ALL THESE THINGS TAKE TIME. THERE WAS A

PUBLIC COMMENT MEETING WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THESE COMMENTS AND IF WE HAD

KNOWN ABOUT THESE CONCERNS, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS A MOST YEAR AGO, WE COULD USE THIS TIME TO FIND A SOLUTION. WE ARE CURRENTLY SPEAKING TO SOME

ENGINEERS INTO WHAT DIFFERENT KIND OF FILTRATION SYSTEMS THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS. SOME OF THESE THINGS COST AS MUCH AS $100,000 AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY. WE ARE GETTING SUPPORT AND PEOPLE WANTING TO HELP. WE ARE PRETTY CONFIDENT WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SMOKE RELATIVELY SOON. AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY -- IT DOESN'T MEAN WE

ARE GIVING UP ON SEBASTOPOL BE GIVEN THE TIME WE HAVE WE HAVE TO EXPLORE ALL OF SONOMA COUNTY. WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 10 PROPERTIES AND SEEING WHAT'S FEASIBLE FOR US. AS FAR AS CITY STAFF MEMBERS I'VE EMAILED THE

DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR THREE OR FOUR TIMES IN LAST TWO MONTHS AND HE DOESN'T RESPOND WHEN I CALL. HE DOES NOT CALL BACK. WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CITY BUT WE GET NO RESPONSE. THE ONLY PERSON WE'VE HAD LUCK WITH IS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR HIM COMMUNICATING WITH US.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK WE ARE TRYING. KEEP IN MIND, WE ARE TRYING TO RUN A BUSINESS THAT SAME TIME. WE HAVE Agenda Item Number 1
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FAMILIES AND HOMES AND ALL THESE THINGS TAKE TIME I JUST WANT TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR. WE AREN'T SITTING AROUND.

Agenda Item Number 1
THAT IS TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. BACK INTO CHAMBERS.

HELLO. I AM LINDA AND SOME OF YOU KNOW ME AS THE FORMER SENIOR CENTER DIRECTOR. BEFORE THAT I WAS THE DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION.

AND IN THE 1990S WE GOT STARTED PREVENTING SMOKING IN THE WORKPLACE AND IT

MOVED ON AND YOU HAVE ALL SEEN A NORM CHANGE THAT SMOKING IS NO LONGER ALLOWED, AND, WHY DO WE DO THAT? WE DID THAT BECAUSE OF PARTICULATE MATTER. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO ABOUT ZONING -- IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT THIS IS AFFECTING BUSINESS, BUT THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS PARTICULATE MATTER. IT CAUSES

HEALTH PROBLEMS, IT CAUSES PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEMS AND IT'S NOT JUST

SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SAY WE WILL GIVE THEM A TEMPORARY PASS BECAUSE

EVERY DAY THAT THE NEIGHBORS OF THAT BARBECUE ARE GETTING SMOKE IN THEIR LUNGS, IT WILL LAST FOR A LIFETIME. I HAVE SEEN AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE LUNG ASSOCIATION MANY PEOPLE COME TO ME AND SAY I NEVER SMOKED. HOW COME I AM DYING OF LUNG CANCER? IT'S BECAUSE OF PARTICULATE MATTER. SO WHATEVER YOU

ARE THINKING ABOUT LET'S DO A TEMPORARY ZONING OR WHATEVER, IT DOESN'T MATTER. WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE WITH SECONDHAND SMOKE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.

THANK YOU. IT SOUNDS FROM THE THIN& COMMENTS THAT THEY ARE WORKING AND IT

SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE WORKING TO MOVE THE BUSINESS OUT OF ITS CURRENT LOCATION. IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME, ONCE AGAIN, IN CONCERT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON, WHETHER OR NOT THE BUSINESS IS GOING TO STAY IN SEBASTOPOL. SO AS THE

CITY HAS VERY LIMITED RESOURCES, AND MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO PUT A SLIGHT

PAUSE ON THINGS BEFORE EXPANDING THE CITY'S LIMITED RESOURCES ON A REZONING

MEASURE THAT ALSO COULD RESULT IN SOME SORT OF LAWSUIT BECAUSE AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER JUST SAID, PARTICULATE MATTER IS LINKED TO LUNG CANCER. SO IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE ONCE AGAIN IN A BIT OF ILLEGAL .. AND IF THE BUSINESS MOVES

BECAUSE THEY FIND A PLACE ZONED FOR SMOKERS THE CITY WILL SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT OF USE ANYMORE. THANK YOU.

I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS.

I AM KIM. I LIVE CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY UNDER QUESTION. I WANTED TO THANK

COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER FOR MEETING WITH PEOPLE FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AS CITY COUNCIL KNOWS, RECENTLY WE

DELIVERED A LETTER TO YOU ALL EXPRESSING OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE WOOD FIRE SMOKE THAT WE ARE SMELLING IN HER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS SIGNED BY 40 INDIVIDUALS, MOST OF WHOM LIVE VERY NEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I KNOCKED ON THEIR DOORS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM. SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE BUSINESS. WE FULLY SUPPORT THE BARBECUE. WE LIKE IT -- BUT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE WITH THE SMOKE. WE CAN ENJOY THE RESTAURANT BUT THE SMOKE IS A REAL ISSUE FOR US. AND I THINK SOMEWHERE IN THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION OUR HEALTH LEFT THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION. THERE WAS A FIRE

DEPARTMENT -- A FIRE CHIEF REPORT THAT USED DATA OF AIR QUALITY DATA THAT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN.. OUR DATA [ INAUDIBLE ] VERY CLOSE TO THE CITY WHERE

WE LIVE AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS ONE WEEK -- THIS IS THREE DAYS AND YOU CAN SEE A HIGH IT GOES. THIS IS -- COULD I STOP MY TIME. I WOULD LIKE MY TIME STOPPED.

LET EVERYBODY HAVE THEIR SAY. CAN YOU PLEASE RESPECT THAT EVERYBODY CAN SPEAK. SO COULD WE GIVE HER A MINUTE TO FINISH WHATEVER IT WAS? SO WHEN IT'S IN OPERATION IT IMPACTS US. WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEALTH

RISKS, AND THE TALL LINES ARE THE CLOSE BY MONITOR AND THE GREEN LINE IS THE MONITOR THAT WAS USED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE DATA. SO TAKING HEALTH OFF THE TABLE WAS BASED ON INACCURATE DATA. IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE AIR QUALITY DATA CAN'T USE IT IN THE VICINITY WHERE IT'S OPERATING.

THAT IS TWO MINUTES.

OKAY.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL GO TO ZOOM. KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.

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PART OF ME IS PLEASED AT OUR INSURANCE COMPANY HAS AN AGENDA ITEM ON CONSENT TONIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING BACK TO. THAT'S MY QUESTION. IF

WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ALLOW OUR CITY POLICE OFFICERS TO TASE MEMBERS

OF THE PUBLIC AND THEN ALLOW LITIGATION AGAINST OUR CITY WHERE OUR ACTUAL COSTS IN THE CITY IS ONLY $10,000 BUT MULTIPLE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF

DOLLARS GO OUT AS A RESULT OF THAT LITIGATION THAT OUR INSURANCE COVERS,

GREAT, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE MUCH FINANCIAL INTEREST IN ACTUALLY HAVING OVERSIGHT OF THE POLICE. DO WE HAVE ANY ACTUAL OVERSIGHT HERE? DO WE CARE WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING? DO WE CARE FOR GROUP OF CITIZENS SUES US BECAUSE OUR INSURANCE WILL COVER IT AND WE WILL PAY A $10,000 DEDUCTIBLE, OR, ARE WE

GETTING GET TO A PLACE WHERE THE PERSON WHO IS ACTUALLY LIABLE IS THE PERSON THAT DID THE HARM. ARE WE GOING TO GET A PLACE -- GET TO A PLACE WITH A POLICE

OFFICER THAT COMMITTED THE ASSAULT IS LIABLE FINANCIALLY TO A BUSINESS THAT IS PRODUCING PARTICULATE MATTER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LIABILITY? I DON'T KNOW

THE ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT IT SURE SEEMS LIKE THE OF THAT THE CITY IS JUST TO

ALLOW OUR INSURANCE PROVIDER TO COVER THE COSTS AND AS LONG AS WE CAN AFFORD THE $10,000 DEDUCTIBLE, NO HARM NO FOUL. AM I RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW.

BECAUSE WE DON'T TALK ABOUT LITIGATION. WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS YEAR

FINANCIAL COSTS THAT COMES AT THE EXPENSE OF ABUSE THAT HAPPENS TO OUR CITIZENS. AND THAT IS A SHAME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I LIVE -- MY NIECE LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE OF THE RESTAURANT. I

HEARD ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON I COULD NOT BELIEVE THE ABUNDANCE OF SMOKE PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT. I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THIS AT ALL. I'VE TALKED TO NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES AND NEIGHBORS ON THE OTHER SIDE. NOBODY KNOCKED ON MY DOOR. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE PARTICULATE MATTER -- THE HIGHER LEVELS HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR 10 YEARS NOT JUST SINCE THEY'VE MOVED THERE. I DO SMELL SMOKE BUT IT SMELLS GOOD. I'VE NEVER HAD TO CLOSE MY WINDOWS. MY CHILDREN

HAVE NEVER HAD BREATHING PROBLEMS AND EITHER HAVE MY NEIGHBORS OR THEIR CHILDREN. I THINK IT IS A SHAME. MY FAMILY'S BUSINESS WAS SUCCESSFUL THERE MY

ENTIRE CHILDHOOD AND THIS IS THE FIRST BUSINESS SINCE THEN THAT'S BEEN

SUCCESSFUL AND IT'S REALLY SAD THAT OUR CITY COULDN'T HAVE DONE SOMETHING SOONER TO HELP KEEP THIS BUSINESS IN TOWN. IT WILL GO AND WE WILL LOSE IT AND THAT IS SAD. I WALK THERE A LOT. MY NOTES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE. BUT I THINK

YOU'RE NOT HEARING ABOUT A BIGGER GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM THIS EXACT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE NOT EXPERIENCING WHAT THESE OTHER 40 SIGNATURES ARE BECAUSE WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? I WELCOME BACK. LAURA.

IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE TESTING CAME FROM THE BAY AREA QUALITY

MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THAT THEY DECIDED THAT IT WAS NOT DANGEROUS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME INVOLVED. IT'S A QUESTION OF WHAT IS THE NEIGHBORS RESPONSE TO THAT FINDING? I SHOULD ALSO SAY I LIVE -- I WORK ACROSS THE STREET AND I AM OFTEN THERE IN THE EXTREME EARLY MORNING HOURS. I DON'T NOTICE IT, BUT MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I'M NOT THE RIGHT WIND DIRECTION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS? PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON.

THANKS. I DIDN'T WANT TO GET MISSED WHEN WE GOT BACK TO QUESTIONS. I BROUGHT

THIS FORWARD WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER BECAUSE HE WANTED TO FIND A PATH TO SUPPORT A LOCAL BUSINESS. WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND A&M. LIKE I SAID, I AM NOT COMFORTABLE INVESTING A TON OF HOURS, AND TO ONE OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS WE HAVE DONE SOMETHING. THEY ARE STILL OPERATING. THEY ARE STILL IN BUSINESS. WE HAVE NOT FIND THEM. I DON'T THINK SEBASTOPOL HAS DONE NOTHING. SO HAVE TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD. AND WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE. I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM. I Agenda Item Number 1
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THINK WE GOT A LETTER FROM THE PUBLIC THAT SAID SOME KIND OF FILTER COULD BE PURCHASED FOR $5000. I UNDERSTAND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SAID THEY'D OFFER TO PAY FOR GO FUND ME. SPEAKING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I LOVE BARBECUE. I EAT THERE. PEOPLE THAT I KNOW IT THERE AND WE WOULD LOVE THEM TO STAY IN SEBASTOPOL. IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE HEARD FROM ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY ARE GONE. IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING PLACE TO BE. I THINK AS A

COUNCILMEMBER BECAUSE THE WAY WE ARE SET UP IS WE CANNOT SPEAK TO AN ISSUE

FROM JUST A STANDARD PUBLIC COMMENT UNTIL IT IS ON THE AGENDA AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT'S BEEN AGENDIZE'S. I THINK THE CITY HAS DONE A LOT. I WOULD LIKE A&M

TO SUCCEED AND I LOVE HOW MUCH THEY GIVE TO SCHOOLS AND THEY ARE FROM SEBASTOPOL. I WANT TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESS. I FEEL LIKE THE NEXT STEP IS FOR

US TO PICK FROM OUR AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT AND INVEST ADDITIONAL TIME WITHOUT

GOING CRAZY AND THEN HEAR BACK FROM A&M ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND

WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO MITIGATE WHAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING IS BOTHERING THEM. AND I'VE WALKED BY THE SMOKERS IN THE MORNING THAT ARE SMOKING ALL NIGHT. IF I LIVED NEXT DOOR, I MIGHT NOT BE SUPER HAPPY. SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN. THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND WE ARE LISTENING AND WE ARE RESPONDING. I WANT TO MAKE THAT REALLY CLEAR.

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COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN .

I AGREE. THANKS FOR GETTING THIS ON THE AGENDA. I DO -- WITH PUBLIC HEALTH IN

MIND I WANT TO FIND A WAY TO HELP THIS BUSINESS SUCCEED AND WHAT STAFF HAS

LAID OUT AND NOW I AM MORE CLEAR ABOUT THE HOURS IT WILL TAKE FOR ALEX TO

EVALUATE THE OPTIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS TIME, I'M

COMFORTABLE WITH THE AMOUNT OF HOURS THAT THEY PUT FORWARD, SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER .

I LOOK AT PROBLEMS DIFFERENTLY THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE. BUT I WANT A WIN-WIN SITUATION. I FEEL LIKE SEBASTOPOL CAN RALLY AROUND THE BUSINESS AND PROTECT

RESIDENTS THAT NEED -- THAT DON'T NEED SMOKE IN THEIR BACKYARD AND IT'S

DANGEROUS TO GUYS AND I RECOGNIZE THAT AND I HEAR THAT AND I DON'T KNOW

THAT WE NEED A ZONING CHANGE TO SOLVE THAT, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED AS A

COMMUNITY TO HELP THIS BUSINESS THAT IS YOUNG AND TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT HOW TO GET A NEW FILTRATION SYSTEM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING I AM ALL IN ON. I

LOVE THE COMPANY, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE THIS OTHER ISSUE THAT I THINK SEVERAL THINGS ARE BEING CONFLATED. THEY HAVE THE ISSUE WHERE THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL

AND THEY ARE GROWING AND THEY'VE OUTGROWN THAT EXACT
, SO THEY DO NEED A DIFFERENT
ANYWAY. I THINK MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OWNERS, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER SPACE WOULD BENEFIT THEM AND I SUPPORT THEM AND WHATEVER BENEFITS THEM.

ONE OF THESE WAYS IS JUST IMMEDIATELY TRYING TO FIX THE AMOUNT OF SMOKE

THAT'S COMING OUT BECAUSE THEN THEY CAN FOCUS ON BEING A BUSINESS AND

SEBASTOPOL -- THEY CAN RALLY AND GET A SMOKE SITUATION FIGURED OUT AND I THINK WE ARE OKAY FOR A BIT.

IT'S OKAY WITH ME.

I'M QUITE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT A&M IS WANTING TO DO BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE

WOULD BE MAKING AN EFFORT TO TRY AND SUPPORT KEEPING THEM, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'VE OUTGROWN THE SPACE AND PLANNING TO LEAVE ANYWAY. SO -- PLEASE LET ME SPEAK. I AM SPEAKING. I SUPPORT A&M BARBECUE AND I WANT TO SEE THEM SUCCEED AND I WANT NEIGHBORS TO NOT BE SMOKED OUT. SO HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT I'M NOT SURE YET. EXCUSE ME. I AM WILLING -- I THINK WE NEED MORE INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY FROM THE BUSINESS AND WHAT HE PLANS TO DO. IT DOESN'T

MAKE SENSE TO ME TO GO FORWARD WITH APPROVING -- STARTING REZONING WITHOUT KNOWING IF IT'S EVEN NEEDED. IT'S WHERE THE CITY IS PUTTING AN EFFORT TO ONE

BUSINESS, REZONING FOR ONE BUSINESS THAT IS GOING TO BE THERE, AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT THE BUSINESS NEEDS TIME TO OPERATE AND FIGURE OUT A PLACE. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FIND THE PLACE OVERNIGHT, AND WHERE THEY ARE IS OKAY, BUT REZONING MAY TAKE SIX MONTHS ANYWAYS OR THREE MONTHS OF WORK.

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ANOTHER LONG PROCESS, AND THAT IS PERMANENT. REZONING IS NOW PERMANENT AND IT CHANGES THAT BUILDING IN PERPETUITY. WHEN THAT BUSINESS MAY NOT EVEN STAY

THERE AND I THINK THE IMMEDIATE REAL CONCERN AS A COMMUNITY IS TO HELP THE BUSINESS OUT AND SOLVE THE SMOKING PROBLEM FIRST. THAT IS AN INVESTMENT THEY CAN TAKE WITH THEM WHEREVER THEY GO.

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SO WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND?

I'M NOT SUPPORTING A ZONING CHANGE, BUT I WANT TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESS IN STAYING THERE AND FIXING THE SMOKE ISSUE, WHICH IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WAS NOT THAT AREA IS NOT ZONED FOR A BARBECUE, AND IF YOU DO NOTHING, THEY CANNOT BE THERE.

THEY CAN'T BE THERE, BUT I THINK BECAUSE THE CONDITIONAL PERMIT IS NOT A THING, IS THAT CORRECT?

A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT CAN ONLY BE ISSUED FOR USE THAT IS CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED. SORT TEMPORARY USE PERMIT IS SOMETHING YOU GET IN LIEU OF GETTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THAT REQUIRES GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND

A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT IS THE SAME THING AS A CUP, BUT IT'S ISSUED BY STAFF AND FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. YOU CAN ONLY BE ISSUED IF THE USE IS CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE. THIS PARTICULAR USE IS NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE AT THIS LOCATION. SORT TEMPORARY USE PERMIT CANNOT BE ISSUED.

PLEASE. YOU HAVE HAD YOUR TURN TO SPEAK. YOU ARE DISRUPTING THE MEETING AND I DON'T APPRECIATE IT AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PLEASE STOP. WE WILL TAKE A FIVEMINUTE BREAK, PLEASE. [ CITY COUNCIL IS TAKING A 5-MINUTE BREAK. CAPTIONER STANDING BY. ] ARE WE READY TO GO? WE WILL CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11 . COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON.

THANK YOU. THERE WAS TALK ONLINE ABOUT THE BROWN ACT. I DO NOT BELIEVE I

HEARD ANY BROWN ACT VIOLATIONS BUT I HEARD MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SLIGHTLY FROM MY ZOOM. MAYBE THEY CAN ADDRESS -- MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT IN THE ROOM. MY COMMENT BEFORE THE BREAK WAS THAT, FIRST OF ALL, THE

OWNER OF THE BUSINESS, WHO I THINK IS BEST POISED TO SPEAK FOR HIMSELF, HE HAS

HIS HAND UP, AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO ASK HIM TO RETURN TO MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT THE FUTURE IN SEBASTOPOL AND MAYBE WHAT HE'S WILLING TO DO. BUT I

REALLY BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO INVEST SOME TIME BECAUSE

POSSIBLY AS ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC POINTED OUT, I ALSO GREW UP WITH

THAT BEING A SUCCESSFUL CORNER AND DELI, AND THAT IS WHAT THIS BUSINESS

OPENED AS AS A DELI AND IF IT MOVES SOMEWHERE ELSE, MAYBE DISOWNING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO ALLOW CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS. I HEARD FROM THE ATTORNEYS

SAY THE BEGINNING THAT THIS WAS THE ONLY ZONE IN SEBASTOPOL THAT DIDN'T HAVE THAT ALLOWANCE. I'M A LITTLE UNCLEAR ABOUT WHAT HE SAID, BUT I'M WILLING TO

INVEST A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY EVEN IF THIS BUSINESS DOES OUTGROW THAT LOCATION

AND MOVE OVERALL SO WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE

SUCCESSFUL IN THE LOCATION AND POSSIBLY A&M MY CONTINUE TO OPERATE A DELI

THERE AND THEY'RE EXPANDING SO FAST THAT THEY CAN HAVE DUAL BUSINESSES, WHICH WE SEE FREQUENTLY. I WOULD BE ASKING IF MAYBE WE COULD WE HEAR FROM HIM TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

I THINK HE WAS ABLE TO SPEAK EARLIER, SO DO COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS OF HIM? OKAY. I'M WILLING TO DO THAT, IF THAT'S OKAY.

CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF. WE CAN HEAR YOU.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AGAIN. COUPLE OF THINGS. THE COMMENTS I

HEARD ABOUT -- MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WE SOME MEAT AND WHAT CLASSIFIES WHAT IS A DELI AND WHAT IS NOT. WE ARE NOT A DELI ANYMORE. AT THE END OF THE DAY. WE

COULD TALK ALL DAY ABOUT WHAT WE REALLY ARE, BUT WE WANT -- I COULD SAY WE ARE STILL A DELI. AS FAR AS ZONING, EVERYTHING HAPPENED SO FAST AND IT WASN'T

JUST ABOUT THE SMOKE AND AND THE ARGUMENT CAME THAT WE WERE NOT THE

CORRECT ZONING AND THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW WILL WE ALLOW TO OPEN THE FIRST PLACE. THERE WERE MISTAKES MADE BY ALL SIDES. WE WERE AWARDED

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ZONING THING CAME UP IS IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO US BY THE CITY MANAGER. SHE SUGGESTED WE FILE THIS MOTION. THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE. THE SECOND REASON IS GIVEN ALL THAT'S GOING ON, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME WE DO OR DON'T HAVE.

EVEN IF WE FIX THE SMOKE ISSUE, THERE'S THE ARGUMENT IS THAT WE ARE NOT THE CORRECT STONE. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL ASPECTS OF HOW WE PROTECT OUR

BUSINESS AND IF THE REALITY IS WE CAN'T BE THERE BECAUSE OF ZONING, THEN WE

HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION AND WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF RESPONSE FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. LIKE I SAID, CARTER HAS BEEN THE ONLY ONE THAT IS HELPED US LOOK AT PROPERTIES. IT'S ALL BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE CAN STAY THERE BE FOR SOMEBODY SAYS YOU CAN BE HERE ANYMORE. SO WHAT WE ARE DOING

IS LOOKING AT PROPERTIES, SEEING IF SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT ZONING SEEING

IF WE CAN GET FILTRATION CAN WE STAY, WHAT I'M HEARING NOW IS EVEN IF WE GET SOMETHING TO FIX THE SMOKE, WE ARE STILL NOT IN THE RIGHT ZONING. FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WE ARE EXPLORING ALL AVENUES TO MAKE EVERYTHING RIGHT. WE WANT NEIGHBORS TO BE HAPPY. IF WE HAD KNOWN EARLIER THAT THIS WAS COULD BE AN ISSUE, WE WOULD HAVE IT SOLVED BY NOW. WE ARE FIGHTING FOR THE BUSINESS AND SHUTTING IT DOWN IS SOMETHING WE CANNOT SWALLOW. WE ARE ACTIVELY COMMUNICATING WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT RESPONDING.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE TO ANY OF YOU WITH EMAILED TO GET BACK TO US. WE ARE BUSY AND WORKING 12 TO 14 HOUR DAYS. WE ARE NOT HEARING BACK FROM MEMBERS OF THE CITY, HOW MUCH MORE CAN WE DO. DO SHOW UP AT YOUR OFFICES? WE WANT TO FIGURE THIS OUT. BUT CLEARLY THERE IS A LOT OF GRAY AREA IN TERMS OF -- THERE ARE ZONING ISSUES. WE ALSO NEED A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THE CITY OF WHAT WE

CAN AND CANNOT DO, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT AT THE EXPENSE OF LOSING THE BUSINESS GIVEN THAT WE'VE BEEN SMOKING SINCE WE OPENED. THAT'S THE MAIN QUESTION IS -- MISTAKES WERE MADE AMONGST DIFFERENT PEOPLE. MAYBE INCLUDING US. MAYBE WE

SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE RESEARCH, BUT THE CITY ULTIMATELY APPROVED US SMOKING IN THAT LOCATION. WE ARE HAPPY TO COLLABORATE AND FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. THERE IS A FINANCIAL STRAIN THAT COMES WITH THE SOLUTIONS. THE BEST THING

GOING FORWARD IS FOR US TO GET TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH A PLAN, BUT IT CAN'T HAPPEN AT THE EXPENSE OF US LOSING HER BUSINESS.

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THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

I DON'T REALLY -- WHAT I WANT IS FOR BUSINESSES TO FEEL LIKE THEY ARE IN A STABLE

ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO OPERATE WHEN THINGS FEEL SHAKY AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT. EVEN THOUGH I THINK THE ORDER OF

OPERATIONS IS WE FIX THE SMOKE, I THINK THEY SHOULD FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IF THEY DO ASK THE SMOKE, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT ZONING THEN. IF THEY WANT TO STAY.

IF THEY MOVE, THEN THAT IS AN EXERCISE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH. I WOULD LIKE

THEM TO FEEL CONFIDENT THAT FIXING THE SMOKE LEADS TO THE ZONING THEY NEED TO STAY WOULD BE GREAT. BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED TO DO THE ZONING FIRST. I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

I WILL MOVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHAT THEY LAID OUT

WILL EDUCATE ALL OF US ABOUT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND DURING THE TIME THAT WILL TAKE IT'S LIKE A&M MAY DECIDE IT DOESN'T COST $55,000 FOR AN AIR CLEANER.

MAYBE IT'S CLOSER TO 33,000 AND MAYBE THEY WILL SET UP A GO FUND ME. MAYBE

OVER THE COURSE OF TIME WHILE THEY ARE DOING DUE DILIGENCE, WE CAN ARRIVE AT

A HAPPY MEDIUM WHERE WE PROTECT EVERYBODY'S PUBLIC HEALTH AND SUPPORTING DIVERSE BUSINESSES. I MOVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION BECAUSE STAFF RECOMMENDED TWO THINGS. I'M NOT

SURE WHICH ONE --

I UNDERSTOOD THE STAFF REPORT AS HAVING REQUESTING TIME TO DO THE ANALYSIS

AND THE TWO OPTIONS SET FORWARD, SO THAT'S WHY I SENT THE EMAIL TO MARY

ASKING HOW MUCH WOULD BE FOR ALEX'S TIME AND HOW MUCH IT WILL COST FOR PLANNING STAFF. FOR ME IT IS WORTH THREE HOURS OF HIS TIME IN 18 HOURS.

I WILL SECOND THAT.

CAN WE TAKE A ROLL CALL.

A CUP OR OTHER ENTITLEMENTS
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[ ROLL CALL ]
CAN I ASK QUESTION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VOTE? IS -- MUST THE BUSINESS MEET

CERTAIN STANDARDS -- WE CAN APPROVE THIS, BUT IN ORDER TO GO FORWARD WITH THE ACTUAL PROCESS, CAN WE MANDATE CERTAIN PERFORMANCE? THERE ARE -- THERE CAN BE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ON THAT PERMIT. REQUIRING WHATEVER THE COUNCIL MIGHT DECIDE. JUST SO I GET IT STRAIGHT.

FIRST TO CHANGE THE ZONING AND THEN THEY GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT? YES. WE CAN PROCESS THOSE SIMULTANEOUSLY. ZONING CHANGE GETS APPROVED AND AT THE SAME MEETING THE USE PERMIT GETS APPROVED.

THE USE PERMIT --
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SOMETIMES WE PUT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE ARE CONSIDER IT

ABOUT SMOKING COULD HAVE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RELATED TO THAT AND THEY OFTEN HAVE TIME FRAMES ABOUT WHEN THE CONDITION HAS TO BE SATISFIED.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE JUST LIKE -- YOUR TIME IS THINKING ABOUT IT.

STAFF WILL BRING BACK THE TWO OPTIONS FOR HOW THE ZONING CHANGE -- HOW THE

CODE COULD BE CHANGED WITH A DETAILED ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS OF

EACH OPTION COULD BE AND THAT THE COUNCIL LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS AND SAY --

MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OPTION OR THIS OPTION AND DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH EITHER ONE.

AND -- OKAY. YES.
[ ROLL CALL ] THE MOTION PASSES 4-1.

DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR INITIAL INVOICES FOR TESTING/MOLD REMOVAL/ETC. AND DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED COSTS/TIMELINE FOR LIBRARY REMEDIATION.

THIS IS TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO THE MOLD FOUND THAT THE LIBRARY AND TALK TO THE PHASE 1 REMEDIATION WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO THERE. I

WILL BRING UP SLIDES AND RUN THROUGH WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE ARE HEADED SO WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE IN THIS DISCUSSION. ONE MOMENT. SO ON JUNE 4th LIBRARY STAFF NOTICED SOME WARPING IN THE LIBRARY WALLPAPER ON THE

EXTERIOR WALLS AND THE CITY HAS LEASED IT TO THE LIBRARY SO THE EXTERIOR WALLS OF THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. STAFF PROACTIVELY CLOSED THE LIBRARY ON THE AFTERNOON OF JUNE 4th. LIBRARY STAFF THE NEXT DAY AFTER ALL THE PUBLIC WAS

NOT THERE AND STAFF WAS NOT THERE WENT INTO THE WALLS TO SEE IF THEY COULD DETERMINE WHAT WAS GOING ON. AT THAT POINT THEY WERE IN CONTACT WITH PUBLIC

WORKS AND WE HAD AN ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST GO OUT THERE AS WELL AND

THEY ADVISED THAT WE STOP MAKING HOLES IN THE WALLS BECAUSE WE MIGHT

POSSIBLY SPREAD ANY POTENTIAL MOLD INTO THE AREAS WHERE THEY HAD ORIGINALLY SEEN THE WALLPAPER WARPING. SO WHEN NO ONE WAS THERE WE TESTED

THE AIR IN THE AREAS SO THAT THE STAFF ROOM AND THE TEENAGE READING ROOM

WERE THE MATERIAL WAS REMOVED AND FOUND TO HAVE ELEVATED MOLD IN THOSE AREAS. THEY TESTED THE COMMON ROOM AS WELL AND THE OTHER STAFF AREAS AND THERE WERE NO ELEVATED READINGS IN ANY OF THOSE AREAS. SO THIS WAS FRIDAY.

THIS IS THE SPECIALIST AND WE SENT WHERE IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT THE MOLD IS BLACK MOLD. WE ASKED THEM TO CONTAIN IT AND WE DID NOT FIND ANY ELEVATED

MOLD WITHIN THE MAIN AREAS OF THE LIBRARY JUST THOSE TWO PLACES WHERE THE EXCAVATION HAPPENED INTO THE WALL. SO THEY CONTAINED THOSE, THEY PUT IN HEPA

FILTERS THROUGHOUT THE LIBRARY WHILE THEY WERE DOING THAT WORK AND BEGAN REMEDIATING THE WALLS. THEY WERE MOVES THE WALLPAPER WITHIN THOSE AREAS

AND FOUND THAT THE MOLD WAS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL UNDERNEATH THE WALLPAPER IN THESE AREAS. IT TOOK THEM FROM JUNE 5th THROUGH THE 16th . THEY WERE MOVED THE SHEET ROCK AND REMEDIATED THE AREA AND CLEANED THE FRAMING. WHAT THEY

FOUND IN THE TEAM READING ROOM IS AFTER THEY REMOVED ALL OF THE SHEET ROCK THERE WAS SOME STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO THE WEST WALL OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS JUST IN ONE LITTLE WALL. THIS IS JUST IN THE AREAS THEY'VE EXPOSED. WHILE THEY

WERE DOING THAT THEY DID MOISTURE TESTING IN THE OTHER AREAS IN THE LIBRARY

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WALLPAPER PEELING AROUND THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING SO THE INITIAL

ASSESSMENT IS THERE IS LIKELY ADDITIONAL MOLD AROUND THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING BEING HELD IN BY THE WALLPAPER. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AS A NEXT

STEP IS WE NEED TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY INVOICE THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US BUT

WE ALSO HAVE PRICING TO ISOLATE THE WALLS OF THE EXTERIOR BUILDING AND HAVE

THE STAFF MOVED THE BOX TO THE CENTER TO CONTAINMENT AROUND THOSE

EXTERIOR WALLS AND THEN PULL BACK THE WALLPAPER TO SEE HOW EXTENSIVE THE

MOLD IS BEHIND THE WALLPAPER AND PULLED THE SHEET ROCK OFF AND REMEDIATE THOSE WALL AREAS. THAT IS THE PRICING BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT. ONCE

WE HAVE THOSE EXPOSED AND YOU CAN SEE THE FRAMING BENEATH THE SHEET ROCK

WE CAN MAKE A BETTER ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGES TO THE BUILDING. AT THIS POINT WE ARE JUST GUESSING SO TRYING TO GET COST FOR WHAT FOUR PAIR WOULD LOOK LIKE IS A BIG ESTIMATE. I HAVE PRELIMINARY COSTS ON WHAT

WE THINK IT MIGHT BE TO RECONSTRUCT ASSUMING THE LEVEL OF DAMAGE THAT WE

SOUGHT IN THE READING ROOM BUT WILL HAVE CONTRACTORS COME IN WE HAVE A WALLS EXPOSED AND DO A BETTER BID FOR THE PROJECT. PHASE 1 WAS THE INITIAL

COST OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO DECONTAMINATE THE ROOMS THAT WERE EXPOSED AND THE PRICE WAS $47,000. THE LIBRARY HAS AGREED TO COST SHARE WITH US SO THE COST TO ASSIST 23,008 44. AND WE'VE RECEIVED TWO MORE PROPOSALS FOR

COMPANIES TO DO THE EXPOSURE OF THE EXTERIOR WALL AND CLEANUP MOLD WE FIND THERE. UP TO $175,000. AT THAT POINT THE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES WE ARE GETTING IS RECONSTRUCTION WOULD BE ON THE ORDER OF $200,000 TO DO STRUCTURAL REPAIR

AND PUT THE SHEET ROCK BACK AND THE INSULATION BACK AND PUT IT BACK TOGETHER. THIS IS THE PROJECTED TOTAL BUDGET AS WE KNOW RIGHT NOW. THIS IS VERY PRELIMINARY. WE NEED MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE CAN ASSESS THAT NUMBER. WE ARE PROPOSING TO TAKE IT FROM THE BUILDING RESERVE FUND, WHICH WE CURRENTLY HAVE A BALANCE OF $594,000.

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CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE TOTAL WAS?
398.

ABOUT $400,000. PHASE 3 IS A VERY PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE. IT WILL LIKELY CHANGE. SO

WE ARE REQUESTING OF COUNCIL TONIGHT IS APPROVING THE INVOICE WE HAVE FOR

THE ORIGINAL REMEDIATION AND STAFF AREA FOR CONTAINMENT AND CLEANUP AND

APPROVAL FOR THE SECOND PHASE TO EXPOSE THE REST OF THE EXTERIOR WALLS AND ASSESS THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE BEHIND THAT. AS MARY INDICATED EARLIER, WE'VE

BEEN WORKING WITH THE LIBRARY TO FIND THEM TEMPORARY LOCATIONS FOR FACILITIES AND CLASSES AND WE ARE STILL IN THAT PROCESS. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN .

THANK YOU. HONESTLY, THAT INFORMATION YOU SHARED WAS NOT WHAT I READ THE STAFF REPORT SO THAT IS ASTOUNDING. WHAT I SAID EARLIER IN REFERENCE TO THE

OTHER AGENDA ITEM THAT THEY WERE PRETTY MUCH TIED TOGETHER, THIS WHOLE REMEDIATION. WITH WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT ALREADY, I APPRECIATE THE LIBRARY CHIPPING IN. THAT IS NOT UNPRECEDENTED. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS. I SAT ON

THE LIBRARY COMMISSION AS AN APPOINTEE OF THE CITY AND I KNOW FOR SURE THAT

THE LIBRARY CHIPPED IN UNSUBSTANTIAL OTHER NECESSARY REPAIRS FOR OTHER SISTER CITIES. THE HVAC IN SANTA ROSA. YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THE FACT THAT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS. I SEE HEADS SHAKING. YOU CAN REFUTE THAT. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING OF THE 398 +100,000 THAT WE DID AND BEING ASKED TO REPAY OR TO

APPROVE IN HINDSIGHT THAT ALREADY BRINGS IT UP TO HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BUILDING THAT THE LIBRARY ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID 10 YEARS AGO IS NOT THE RIGHT SIZE FOR US. SO WHAT ARE WE REALLY DOING? I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE AT ALL. NOT WITH THE PRICE THAT'S BEING PUT FORTH NOW. I THINK THIS PROBABLY IS

SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A STRONG THINK ABOUT ABOUT WHETHER WE WILL APPROVE $500,000 FOR BUILDING WILL HELP TO GET FIXED WITH MOLD AND DRY ROT TO WHAT? TO BE IN A SUBSTANTIAL PLACE? IT DOESN'T MAKE MATHEMATICAL SENSE TO ME.

OTHER QUESTIONS?
IS THERE ANY INDICATION OF THE TIME LINE?
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THE NEXT PHASE OF REMEDIATION WILL TAKE ABOUT THREE WEEKS AND THEN WE

NEED TO HAVE CONTRACTORS GOING TO GET PRICING AND LOOK AT THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE.

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CONSTRUCTION -- LIKE -- CONSTRUCTION MAY NOT TAKE VERY LONG. THIS COULD BE A MONTH? IT COULD BE TWO MONTHS?

THE REMEDIATION PIECE WILL BE ONE MONTH AND THEN WE WILL BRING BACK PRICING TO DO RECONSTRUCTION.

AND THAT THINKING ABOUT PROCESS WILL TAKE THREE WEEKS? LIKE THAT IS A MONTH.

AND THEN WILL IT TAKE THREE WEEKS TO GET THE PERSON THAT MIGHT FIX -- THE CITY HAS OBLIGATIONS TO PUBLICLY BID CONTRACTS. DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS, I THINK IT'S 225. IT'S BELOW TO 25, WE CAN INFORMALLY PAY THAT BUT STILL INVOLVES A LITTLE FORMALITY. IF IT'S ABOVE THAT, WE HAVE TO DO A FORMAL BID. THAT INVOLVES PUBLISHING NOTICE, RECEIVING THE BED AND USUALLY HAVE THAT OPEN FOR 2 WEEKS TO RECEIVE BIDS. BIDS ARE THEN BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

SO THIS IS OVER 225,000?
WELL, JUST THE RECONSTRUCTION PIECE. THE INITIAL ASSESSMENTS AROUND 200,000.

WE HOPE WE WON'T HAVE TO DO THE FULL BID PROCESS. I'VE HAD CONTRACTORS LOOK

AT IT AND THINK ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD PROVIDE PRICING AND IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO TELL WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME STRUCTURAL DAMAGE THERE IS.

PEOPLE NEED TO COME BACK IN WHEN THE WALLS ARE EXPOSED AND I THINK WE CAN TURN AROUND PRICING RELATIVELY QUICKLY ONCE WE HAVE EXPOSED.

AND A REMINDER FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE CITY HAS TO PAY PREVAILING WAGE FOR ALL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. ANY WORK OVER $1000. THE PRICE WE PAY IS MUCH

HIGHER THAN THE MARKET RATE THAT A PRIVATE ENTITY WOULD BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THIS WORK.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON .

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IS WHEN WE THINK THE BUILDING IS WORTH RIGHT NOW? I HAVE READ A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT SIZE, BUT

WE DON'T HAVE AN IMMEDIATE PLAN TO FIGURE OUT MONEY FOR A NEW LIBRARY, AND THIS IS A BUILDING THAT THE CITY OWNS. WE HAVE TO REPAIR IT UNLESS SOMEBODY MENTIONED A FULL TEAR DOWN, BUT THIS BUILDING MUST BE VALUED AT -- MILLIONS? WHAT WE ARE REINVESTING IS A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT IS VALUED AT. IT IS OUR BUILDING. WE HAVE TO REPAIR IT EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE HOME OF THE LIBRARY IT WOULD BE THE HOME OF SOMETHING ELSE. MAYBE? I CAN'T IMAGINE FULLY TEARING IT DOWN.

DO WE KNOW WHAT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS?
THE WHOLE PARCEL IS 3.6 AND THE LIBRARY IS LARGER THAN A HALF PORTION OF THAT.

SO IT IS SOME PORTION OF $3.5 MILLION. AND IT'S WORTH LESS IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD ON TOP OF IT INTO A DIFFERENT THING. BUT FOR US THE REPLACEMENT VALUE IS PROBABLY 2 MILLION. TO THROW $400,000 OR LESS INTO IT IS PROBABLY SAFE TO HAVE A PLACE TO HAVE A LIBRARY. THAT'S A FINANCIAL DECISION PEOPLE STRUGGLE OVER AND

I THINK SHOULD BE STRUGGLED OVER AND NOT JUST THOUGHT ABOUT, BUT IN MY OPINION -- I'M JUST TALKING. IT'S PROBABLY WORTHY OF FIXING.

COULD WE STICK TO QUESTIONS.

MY QUESTION IS THE FACT THAT -- THE LIBRARY -- THE BUILDING WAS BUILT SAME TIME THE CITY HALL. WHEN IS THE LAST TIME CITY HALL WAS LOOKED AT? IF THERE IS MOLD

IN THE LIBRARY, YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE THE SAME SET OF CIRCUMSTANCE EXISTED -- I'M

CONCERNED ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE AND OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN MAKING

SURE THE CITY HALL IS ALSO FALLING APART BECAUSE WE NEVER LOOKED IN THE WALLS. CAN YOU ANSWER THAT?

WHAT WE FIND THE LIBRARY IS THEY HAD WALLPAPER AGAINST THE ROCK AND IT WAS HOLDING IN MOISTURE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CAUSING THE MOISTURE SO THAT'S

SOMETHING WE WILL LOOK AT WIL REPORT OFF BUT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT LETTING THE

SHEET ROCK BREEDS, THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON WE ASSUME THAT THE MOLD IS THERE. WE ARE NOT SEEING THAT AS CITY HALL HAS SHEET ROCK. SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUES THERE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE CAN GO OUT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

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THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CHAIRMAN LIBRARY SITUATION.

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I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. AS I JUST HEARD THERE'S WALLPAPER IN THE LIBRARY, I'M CURIOUS. WHO PUT THAT UP? IF WE DIDN'T PUT IT IN CITY HALL WAS A PUT UP BY LIBRARY STAFF OR BY THE CITY? AND THAT GOES TO A POINT THAT WE GOT FROM

A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WAS ASKING ABOUT LIABILITY, SO I'M WONDERING WHO PUT THAT WALLPAPER UP. PEOPLE KNOW WALLPAPER IS NOT GREAT FOR HOUSES. WE LEARNED ABOUT. BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LIBRARY DID IT DURING A REMODEL.

NOW WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU. I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT AND THE LIBRARY'S SUPPORT TO AUTHORIZE THE PHASE 2 REMEDIATION SO WE CAN CONTINUE MOVING THIS FORWARD. THE CITY AND LIBRARY HAVE A LONG HISTORY TO PROVIDE LIBRARY

SERVICES AND I WANT TO THANK CITY STAFF WHILE WE WORK ON SOME TEMPORARY LIBRARY SERVICES. THE LIBRARY HAS DEMONSTRATED HIS COMMITMENT BY PROVIDING 50% OF THE REIMBURSEMENT AND I'M WILLING TO TAKE THESE COSTS AND LIBRARY COMMISSION AND ASK THEM TO SHARE IN THAT RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL. FROM MY

PERSPECTIVE PAYING FOR THE ROOM REPAIR IS MUCH CHEAPER THAN MOVING TO A NEW LIBRARY. WHEN WE HAD A TEMPORARY LOCATION, IT WAS A COMMUNITY CENTER AND IT WAS $400,000 FROM THE LIBRARY FUND TO MOVE TO THAT LOCATION. THAT INCLUDED MOVING COSTS AND I.T. COSTS BECAUSE WE HAD TO ADD STAFF WORKSTATIONS AND DO REPAIRS WILL BE HAD EIGHT TEMPORARY BUILDING IT WAS $1 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR

THE TEMPORARY SPACE AND THAT WAS FOR BUILDING WE OCCUPIED FOR A YEAR WILL NEVER USE AGAIN. $200,000 TO DO THE REPAIRS AND REMEDIATION IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE COST-EFFECTIVE THAN PURCHASING A BUILDING. WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A

HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE AT THE LIBRARY THEN WE CAN IN A TEMPORARY SPACE AND

GIVEN THE LENGTH OF TIME THE LIBRARY WILL BE CLOSED IT MAKES GOOD SENSE TO

REPAIR THE EXISTING BUILDING WHILE WE WORK ON A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR A FUTURE LARGER LIBRARY.

OUT TO ZOOM.

JUST A COMMENT ON HISTORY AND I'M REALLY FUSSY ON THIS. I CAN'T FIGURE OUT

EXACTLY WHICH PROJECTS WERE PLANNED AND WHICH ONES WERE DONE, BUT I THINK

PRIOR TO THE CONTRACT THAT GOES BACK SEVERAL YEARS THERE WAS A CIP PROJECT TO REPLACE THE ROOF. THEY WANTED TO DO A NO COST SOLAR PANEL JOB AND THAT

REQUIRED A ROOF REPAIR OR ROOF REPLACEMENT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GOT DONE UNDER [ INAUDIBLE ], BUT IT WAS A CONTRACT. BUT A COUPLE YEARS AGO THERE WAS A CIP PROJECT FOR ROOF REPAIR. THE QUESTION WOULD BE DID THE CONTRACTOR

DO SOMETHING TO THE ROOF THAT PERHAPS CAUSED IT OR WAS THE REASON THAT THE ROOF NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED. I KNOW ARIANNA IS ON TOP OF THIS BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HISTORY THEY HAVE THERE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS? BACK OUT TO ZOOM.

LINDA.

THIS HAS BEEN REALLY INTERESTING. I'M SURPRISED BY THE LIBRARY BEING CLOSE. I

DON'T THINK I'VE EVER BEEN IN FORRESTVILLE AND I WAS SURPRISED -- I CAN SEE WHY

NOW AFTER DESCRIPTION THE BUILDING WAS SAFE THEY WERE REDOING STUFF AND PUTTING THAT BOOK DISCHARGE SYSTEM IN. SO THEY COULD HAVE A BUS DURING CERTAIN DAYS. LIBRARY DOES A LOT MORE THAN JUST HAND BE A BOOK. AND THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF THAT. THEY'VE HAD MUSIC PERFORMANCES AND STORYTELLING FOR CHILDREN. SMALL CHILDREN WERE WATCHING THE LIBRARY AND DO A PUPPET SHOW. HAVING OBSERVED IT FOR A FULL DAY WERE REGISTERING VOTERS

THERE WANT WILL A LOT OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE COMPUTERS USING IT. I HOPE WE CAN GET IT BACK FAST

THE SUGGESTION THAT THE ISSUE IS WITH JUST THE WALLPAPER AND SHEET ROCK, BUT

YET WE SAW PRIOR TO THAT WOULD APPEAR TO BE DRY ROT, WHICH WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD SIMPLY BE SHEET ROCK AND WALLPAPER INTERACTING.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET CLARITY ON THAT. WHAT I'VE BEEN FASCINATED BY FROM

PUBLIC COMMENT AROUND THIS ISSUE IS ABOUT THE ABYSMAL PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ISSUE. THAT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE ABILITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE IT OUT TO THESE OTHER LOCATIONS. I HAVE REGULARLY CRITICIZED THE Agenda Item Number 1
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CURRENT -- FOR THE ALLOWANCE OF HUGE REDUCTIONS IN SERVICE OFFERINGS FROM

SEBASTOPOL SANTA ROSA FROM THERE TO -- COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHEN IT COMES TIME

FOR COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS, PLEASE CONSIDER TAKING UP SCTA FOR TRANSPORTATION ROUTES THAT WERE THERE PRIOR TO 2020 . THIS IS A PERFECT

EXAMPLE OF THIS WILL WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH ACTUAL NEEDS TO

LEAVE THE CITY TO ACCESS INFRASTRUCTURE, LIBRARY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY

CANNOT DO RELIABLY AS A RESULT OF THE HUGE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ACCESS WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST 5 TO 6 YEARS UNDER THE WATCH OF THE CURRENT SCTA REP.

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THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. IS THERE ANYBODY VIRTUALLY? PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR COMMENTS? MY COMMENT IS THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED

MAJOR FIXES TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER KNOWING THAT IT IS IN A FLOOD ZONE AND WE DID THAT. WE NEED TO DO THE SAME THING FOR THE LIBRARY. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE THE BUILDING AND NOT REPAIR IT. I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE WALLPAPER ON THE EXTERIOR WALLS. THAT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE SENSE TO ME. MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT.

THE WALLPAPER IS ON THE INTERIOR OF THE EXTERIOR WALLS. THE LEAKING IS HAPPENING IN THE WALL AND IT'S GOING TO THE SHEET ROCK BUT IT CAN'T BREATHE.

THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO DO THE REMEDIATION WORK BUT ALSO

TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE MOISTURE IS COMING FROM BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T IDENTIFY THAT, IT WILL REPEAT ITSELF. MY HOPE IS THAT THESE CONTRACTORS YOU'RE WORKING

WITH MAKE THAT THEIR PRIORITY TO IDENTIFY AND REMEDIATE WHEREVER THE

SOURCE OF MOISTURE IS, AND THEN, I'M WONDERING -- OUR LIBRARY, WHEN YOU WALK

INTO IT, IT HAS HALLWAY AND ONE SIDE IS CLOSED OFF YOU HAVE ANOTHER ROOM IF YOU COME IN FROM HIGH STREET. YOU HAVE A ROOM ON THE RIGHT THAT'S BIG ENOUGH IF IT DOESN'T HAVE MOLD, WHY IS AND THAT BEING USED FOR HOLTZ? I'M DRIVING TO

PICK UP HOLD AND YOU COULD HAVE A ROOM EVEN SMALLER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE IN FORRESTVILLE. WHY ISN'T THAT BEING USED. THE REST OF THE LIBRARY IS SECTIONED OFF AND YOU COULD EVEN BRING IN A FEW COMPUTERS. HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THAT? OR PLEASE LOOK INTO THAT.

THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR CAN ADDRESS THAT.

THAT WOULD BE THE IDEAL SOLUTION. IF THE MEETING ROOM COULD BE DONE FIRST

AND THEN WE COULD SECTION OFF THE REST OF THE LIBRARY SO WE COULD USE IT IN A WAY THAT YOU SUGGEST. IN THE INTERIM WE ARE LOOKING AT PROVIDING THEM PICKED UP AT OTHER LOCATIONS IN TOWN.

WHY CAN'T IT BE DONE NOW? IS IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WORKING IN THERE? THAT WHOLE SECTION IS CLOSED OFF. SEPARATE.

POTENTIALLY, BUT WILLING TO DO ENVIRONMENTAL ISOLATION OF THE AREA.

I THINK ADDITIONALLY WE NEED TO ASSESS IF THERE IS MOLD IN THE MEETING ROOM SPACE AS WELL.

I WILL MOVE THE RECOMMENDATION.

SECONDED.

SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR MAURER TO

APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE INVOICES FOR THE MOLD REMOVAL AND SET ASIDE FOR THE 175,000.
[ ROLL CALL ] THE MOTION PASSES 4-1. WE WANTED YOU THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA AND IF YOU DID NOT SPEAK OF THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS? IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. I WANTED TO SAY THAT WE DID HIRE AN ASSOCIATE PLANNER. OFFERED THE CONDITIONAL OFFER LETTER THEY ACCEPTED AND IT WILL BE 4 TO 6 WEEKS FOR A BACKGROUND CHECK. WE DID RECEIVE THREE PROPOSALS FOR PLANNING SERVICES. WE WILL BE VETTING TWO OF THEM AND MOVING FORWARD WITH INTERVIEWS. I'M IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING A FORMER CITY CLERK TO DO NOMINATIONS. BETWEEN JULY AND AUGUST. WE ARE WORKING ON THE CONTRACT. IF

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CITY STAFF TO DO THE NOMINATION FORMS. THE NOMINATION PERIOD OPENS ON MONDAY FOR CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATES TO PULL PAPERS. JULY 13th. THESE ARE ONLY BY APPOINTMENT ONLY SO PLEASE CALL US TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

Agenda Item Number 1
ANY REPORTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
THANK YOU. A NUMBER OF CONTINUOUS HOMELESS COALITION BOARD MEETINGS. THE

DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHO IS ALSO ON THAT ALONG WITH THE FOLKS FROM [ INAUDIBLE ] FOR THERE TO BE MORE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS TO ADDRESS STARTUP ISSUES. THAT IS ONGOING WORK. ALSO STILL ON THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE FROM THE HUD GRANTS IN ADDITION TO KEEPING UP WITH WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE BOARD.

ANYONE ELSE?
I DID WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF ADDRESS A FEW COMMENTS MADE TONIGHT. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ASK FOR ROUTE 29 BACK FROM SANTA ROSA TO THE OCEAN AND WE HAVE BEEN DENIED FOR A FEW YEARS IN A ROW. AND TO ADDRESS NEGATIVE SPEAK

FROM THE PUBLIC AS THE REP FROM SCTA BOTH MYSELF I'VE SAT ON IT AND LINDA

HOPKINS HAS BEEN IN THE POINTY WE CONTINUE TO GET DOLLARS TO WEST COUNTY

OVERALL INCLUDING SEBASTOPOL BUT ANYONE THAT FOLLOWS TRANSPORTATION KNOWS THAT IT'S A TOUGH GO RIGHT NOW. AND ROUTES ARE BEING CUT BACK AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN THAT SEGMENT.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER.

ONCE AGAIN, I'M SURE I DID SOMETHING. I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS NEED TO BE INFORMED ABOUT IT. I'M HAVING A BRAIN FOG. WILL SAVE IT FOR LATER.

I HAVE A SHORT REPORT FROM THE ZERO WASTE MEETING. WE HAD A PRESENTATION BY

TWO RECYCLERS REGARDING THE CRV, WHICH IS THE -- WHENEVER YOU BUY A BOTTLE OR A CAN THAT'S EITHER FIVE OR 10 OR $.15, THESE COMPANIES DO THE RECYCLING. WE HAVE ONE RIGHT HERE. AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IS AT THE STORE THEY ARE

COLLECTING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF UNREDEEMED BOTTLES AND CANS FROM -- THEY HAVE THIS PICK FUND AND ITS MANAGED BY CAL RECYCLE. OTHER AGENCIES BORROW FROM IT. SO WHEN YOU PUT THESE TYPES OF CANS AND BOTTLES INTO THE RECYCLING, THEY DON'T RECEIVE MONEY FOR THOSE REDEMPTIONS. THEY RECYCLE THEM THAT THEY DON'T GET THE REDEMPTION VALUE. THEY GO TO THE NORTH BAY RECYCLE SOME.

THEY CAN SHOW YOU HAD A ROUTINE ANY BOTTLES. AND I THOUGHT I WILL TRY AND I REALIZED WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT MANY TO DO. YOU CAN GET A DEBIT CARD FROM THEM AND THEY WILL PUT MONEY ON IT FOR YOU. AND YOU CAN DO IT ON THE COMPUTER.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CELL PHONE. THAT'S MY REPORT. ANYTHING ELSE? THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. [Event Concluded]
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