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Sebastopol City Council
September 15, 2026

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DIFFERENT
WAY.

OTHERWISE, IF WE KICK THE
BALL

TOO HARD WE'RE NEVER GOING
TO
BUILD
ANOTHER LIBRARY.

LIKE THIS IS
THE MOMENT.

WHEN O'REILLY CHANGES, LIKE
IF

WE KICK THIS DOWN AND

O'REILLY

MOVES ON, THEN WE'RE FORCED INTO

A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE TO
BUILD

ON THAT ONE PARTICULAR PLACE
OF

LAND, AND THEN WE'RE

DEFINITELY
INTO A 30 TO $40

MILLION
PROJECT.

EVEN IF WE WON OUT, IT'S
GOING
TO BE $10 MILLION THEN IT WON'T.

MAYBE SEVEN.

BUT WITH A FEW MORE YEARS WITH

INFLATION AS IT IS, IT'S

DEFINITELY GOING TO BE
$10

MILLION JUST TO ADD ON A SMALL
LITTLE PORTION.

AND YOU'RE NOT STILL NOT

BEAUTIFYING THAT PLACE AND
STILL

NOT MAKING SEBASTOPOL A WANT TO
BE DESTINATION.

WHEREAS IF YOU DID COME TO
THE

O'REILLY BUILDING, AND
I, YOU

KNOW, RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE THAT

IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A

TRANSPORTATION CRISIS

BECAUSE I

THINK A LOT OF THE PEOPLE
THAT

ACTUALLY DO LIVE UP THERE,
AND

IT'S VERY BIKABLE ON THE WEST

COUNTY LINE, BUT IT DOES
TAKE

AWAY THE HEART, AND THAT'S NOT
WANTED.

YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS TO
TAKE

AWAY THE HEART OF THE CITY
AND
MOVE IT UP THERE.

SO I JUST -- I JUST WANT

TO, YOU

KNOW, PROPOSE THAT WE KNOCK
THIS

BACK TO, YOU KNOW, AN AD HOC
FOR
THE
MOMENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON.

I'D BE WILLING TO GIVE
STAFF

DIRECTION TO CONSIDER AN AD HOC

IN DECEMBER, AND THEN THEY
WOULD

WORK TOWARDS INSTEAD OF
THIS
PLAN OF $18 MILLION, WHICH IS ON
SLIDE -- IT LOOKS LIKE PAGE 16.

THEY WOULD CONSIDER THE

ONE-BUILDING OPTION

WE HEARD
ABOUT TONIGHT OF $8 MILLION.

AND THEN THEY WOULD BRING IT
TO

THE BUDGET MIDYEAR SUBCOMMITTEE

FOR CONSIDERATION
AND
RECOMMENDATION.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M

WILLING TO

PROPOSE TONIGHT, AND I
DON'T

KNOW IF I CAN DO THAT IN FORM
OF
A
MOTION.

I HAVEN'T MADE ANY COMMENTS

YET SO --
NO,

I WANT YOU TO, AND THEN I

HAVE SOME COMMENTS TO, SO
GO
AHEAD.

WE
HAVE TIME.

I THINK

THIS IS REALLY

CHALLENGING BECAUSE

WE HAVE, YOU

KNOW, A BLUE RIBBON

COMMITTEE

HERE THAT HAS BEEN WANTING
TO

PUT TOGETHER THIS COMMONS FOR --

FOR OUR SENIOR CENTER AND
THE

LIBRARY AND THE

COMMUNITY
CENTER.

AND YOU'VE WORKED ON THIS
FOR A
FULL YEAR.

AND YOU'VE

LANDED ON -- THE LAST

TIME YOU WERE HERE WAS JULY
7th.

AND AT THAT MEETING YOU

HAD TWO
POSSIBLE LOCATIONS.

ONE WAS DOWNTOWN, AND THE
OTHER
WAS THE O'REILLY BUILDING.

AND THERE WASN'T A FINANCIAL
PROPOSAL.

SO WHAT WE WERE TOLD AT
THAT

TIME IS YOU WOULD COME BACK
IN

SEPTEMBER -- SO THE

ATTORNEY

SAID THE COMMITTEE WILL
COME

BACK IN SEPTEMBER TO MAKE
A
FORMAL RECOMMENDATION.

BUT INSTEAD WHAT HAPPENED IS
THE
COMMITTEE DECIDED ON JULY 14
th

TO CHOOSE ONE LOCATION AND THEN

START HOLDING TOWN HALLS TO

SOLICIT SUPPORT FOR THAT
ONE
LOCATION.

AND FOR ME THAT WAS VERY

UPSETTING BECAUSE IT CREATED
A

LOT OF UNNECESSARY DIVISION, I
THINK, IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, SET
THAT ASIDE.

I ALSO THINK THAT YOU
DIDN'T

REALLY LOOK AT THE IDEA OF
AN

ADDITION NEXT TO THE

LIBRARY,

AND THAT COULD BE A COUPLE
STORY

ADDITION THERE THAT COULD
SERVE
THE SENIOR CENTER.

IT COULD SERVE CITY HALL IN SOME

WAY, AND THAT WAS
NEVER
INVESTIGATED.

AND ALL WE WERE TOLD WAS,
WELL,

THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE SO WE
CAN'T
DO THAT.

SO I LIKE TO KEEP THE
TWO

OPTIONS STILL OPEN AND NOT LAND
ON ANYTHING.

I ALSO FEEL REALLY

STRONGLY
ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN CORE.

AND TO ME THESE -- THE

BUILDINGS

ARE BEAUTIFUL, BUT THEY DO
NEED

A LOT OF WORK, AND THEY'RE
WAY

BIGGER THAN I THINK WHAT
WE
NEED.

AND I THINK IT WOULD

PROBABLY

END UP BIFURCATING OUR
TOWN,

CREATING A NORTH PART

OF TOWN

AND THE CENTER OF TOWN, AND THE
EAST PART OF TOWN.

AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF

KEEPING

THE HEART OF TOWN, AND
THE

LIBRARY IS CENTRAL TO THE HEART
OF TOWN AND THE SENIOR CENTER.

AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE

BURSTING

AT THE SEAMS, AND IT'S

WONDERFUL
BECAUSE YOU'RE SO SUCCESSFUL.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
WEST
COUNTY RESIDENTS.

I'M GRATEFUL.

SEBASTOPOL'S AMAZING
AND

WONDERFUL BECAUSE OF THE WEST
COUNTY.

WE COULD NEVER HAVE AS
MANY

RESTAURANTS AS WE DO OR

AS GREAT

OF SERVICES, AS GREAT OF AN
ARTS

CENTER, A SENIOR CENTER,
COMMUNITY CENTER.

ALL THESE SERVICES ARE
GREAT

BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE
SURROUNDING -- 50,000
PEOPLE

SURROUNDING US THAT ARE USING

IT, SO I HAVE A LOT
OF

APPRECIATION

FOR THE WEST COUNTY

RESIDENTS FOR THAT REASON

BECAUSE THEY MAKE OUR TOWN
REALLY GREAT.

SO WE HAVE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOK AT AN
$850,000 DEFICIT FOR THIS
YEAR.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, OKAY, WE'LL
GIVE YOU 50,000 AND A BUNCH
OF
MORE STAFF TIME.

I JUST CAN'T -- I CAN'T DO THAT.

NOT
NOW.

I WOULD CONSIDER

JOINING COUNCIL

MEMBER HINTON WITH THE IDEA OF

TAKING A MIDYEAR BUDGET

REVIEW,

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THE

DOWNTOWN PROPERTY BE BACK IN THE

CONVERSATION TO SEE IF

ANYTHING
COULD BE FEASIBLE.

IF YOU COULD DO -- YOU COULD DO

PARKING UNDERNEATH AND MAYBE
TWO

OR THREE STORIES UP IT COULD
BE

A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AS AN ANNEX

TO -- YOU KNOW, AN ADDITION
TO

THE MAIN LIBRARY THERE
THAT

COULD INCLUDE THE NEEDS OF
SENIORS.

AND I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD
WORK

FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT
IT
COULD HELP WITH CITY HALL.

BUT IT ALSO COULD OFFER
A

BEAUTIFUL OBSERVATION DECK FOR

THE LAGUNA BECAUSE IT WOULD BE
UP
PRETTY HIGH.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST IS

TO INCLUDE BOTH PROPERTIES IN A
MIDYEAR REVIEW.

AND I DON'T WANT TO

CONTINUE

WITH AN AD HOC AT THIS TIME AND

WOULD LIKE TO JUST HAVE
THAT

MIDYEAR REVIEW TO SEE IF IT'S

EVEN FINANCIALLY
POSSIBLE.

AND I JUST -- A COUPLE
OF

THINGS POINT OF ORDER AND
SIMPLY

BECAUSE OF WHAT I JUST HEARD,
I

WANT TO EXPRESS THE

FRUSTRATION

THAT I FELT WHEN I LISTENED TO

THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE
I'M
JUST GOING TO SAY IT.

IT FELT LIKE A SALES JOB, NOT
AN
INFORMAL TYPE OF THING.

I MEAN, I HAD SO MANY
PEOPLE

COMING OUT OF

THERE AND CHEWING

MY EAR OFF

SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU

GUYS MADE A DECISION WITHOUT

ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT IT
AT

COUNCIL BECAUSE THE

IMPRESSION
WAS A DECISION WAS MADE.

AND AS A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT

SITS HERE AND HAS TO GO

THROUGH

ALL OF THAT AND WAS NOT PART
OF

ALL THAT, IT'S DISAPPOINTING
TO

HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT A

DECISION
WASN'T MADE.

BUT THE IMPRESSION FOR MANY

PEOPLE IS THAT A DECISION WAS
MADE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I HAD SEVERAL

PEOPLE TELLING ME IT WAS A SALES
JOB.

THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE AT
A --

WHAT'S IT CALLED -- A TIME
SHARE
THING.

THAT WAS THE ANALOGY THEY USED.

SO AS A POINT OF ORDER, FOR
ME

PERSONALLY I WAS LIKE,
OKAY,
TAKE NOTE.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

COMMITTEES AND COMMUNITY

OUTREACH, NOW

WE NEED TO DEFINE

SOME OF THAT BECAUSE IT
JUST

FELT LIKE IT KIND OF

WENT BEYOND

WHAT IN MY MIND I WOULD

ENVISION
FOR THAT.

SO I JUST HAVE TO SAY
I'M

SHARING WITH
YOU ALL.

I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE A

CRITICISM, BUT I'M JUST

SHARING

THE CONVERSATIONS I HAVE
TO
HAVE.

AND IT'S NOT COMFORTABLE WHEN

YOU'RE HAVING TO
HAVE

CONVERSATIONS AND

TELLING

PEOPLE, NO, A DECISION
WASN'T
MADE.

AND THEY'RE LIKE IT

CERTAINLY

SOUNDS LIKE

IT AND WASN'T

ACTUALLY DISCUSSED AT
THE
COUNCIL MEETING.

SO PEOPLE ARE DISAPPOINTED IN

THAT, AND I'M JUST SHARING
THAT
WITH YOU ALL.

I PERSONALLY AM NOT

SUPPORTIVE
OF HAVING AN AD HOC RIGHT NOW.

I THINK IT'S THE CART BEFORE
THE
HORSE.

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WE CAN AFFORD
IT.

AND AGAIN WE'VE GOT THE DEFICIT.

I WANT TO SHARE ALL THE THINGS

THAT WERE
SHARED TO ME.

IT DIDN'T GOOD SITTING IN
THERE

AND AFTERWARD KIND OF
BEING

ATTACKED BIA FEW

PEOPLE LIKE WHY
WAS THIS DECISION MADE.

ANYWAY, THAT'S MY --
GO
AHEAD.

I'M GOING TO COME BACK
AND

TRY TO LOBBY BECAUSE I
HEAR

COUNCIL MEMBER MAURER

SAYING,

YES, BUDGET CAN REVIEW IT
AT
MIDYEAR.

BUT WITHOUT HAVING SOME OF THAT

INFORMATION TO BE ABLE
TO

PRESENT TO BUDGET COMMITTEE,
I

DO THINK WE WOULD NEED TO
PULL

TOGETHER THIS COMMONS GROUP
THAT

HAS WORKED REALLY HARD AND
AN

AD HOC AT LEAST IN DECEMBER, AND

THAT WOULD GIVE THE STAKEHOLDERS

TIME TO REACH OUT TO
OUR

SUPERVISOR, LINDA HAWKINS, TO

SEE IF WE HAVE ANY COUNTY
SUPPORT OR WE CAN DRUM THAT.

OR MAYBE TO OUR
COUNTY

COMMISSIONER FIGURE OUT IF
WE

CAN GET THE LIBRARY TO KIND OF

STATE WHERE THEY COULD BE AT
SO

THAT WE CAN GO BACK INTO
THAT

BUDGET REQUEST MIDYEAR WITH
A

LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION
BEHIND

IT TO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT JUST
THROWING $50,000 OUT.

SO MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE

TONIGHT, BUT I'M NOT FOR AN

AD HOC TONIGHT AND EXTENDING THE
AD HOC'S SCOPE OF WORK.

BUT I WILL CONTINUE TO TRY
TO

LOBBY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT
ALL
THIS WORK THROWN OUT THE WINDOW.

AND IT WOULD SEEM LIKE A NEW

AD HOC CREATED IN DECEMBER
TO

GET READY FOR THE
BUDGET

PRESENTATION MIGHT MAKE
SENSE,

SO THEY'RE NOT COMING IN
COLD

BECAUSE THIS INFORMATION WILL
BE

THREE MONTHS OLD OR FOUR
MONTHS

OLD BY THE TIME
WE GET THERE.

SO I AGREE THAT I DON'T
WANT

TO THROW OUT THEIR WORK, JUST TO
BE
CLEAR.

GOT TO FIGURE OUT -- I
WOULD

LIKE TO PUT THE DOWNTOWN
SPACE

BACK IN THERE FOR A
REAL
EVALUATION.

AND SO IF THAT'S PART OF THE

SCOPE OF THE AD HOC THAT MEET
IN

DECEMBER, I'M OKAY WITH
THAT.

BUT CAN WE REALLY DIRECT AN
AD HOC NOW THAT IS FOR DECEMBER?

YOU CAN CREATE ONE NOW IF
YOU

WANTED OR YOU CAN WAIT
UNTIL
DECEMBER.

I'D LIKE TO WAIT UNTIL
DECEMBER.

BUT CAN WE JUST SEND THAT TO

STAFF, STAFF DIRECTION THAT
WE

WANT THAT TO COME BACK AS
AN

AGENDA ITEM IN DECEMBER FOR
AN

AD HOC TO
BE CREATED?
YES, WE COULD COME BACK.

I

MEAN, ON THE FIRST OR
SECOND

MEETING IN DECEMBER

THERE'S

GOING TO BE A TURNOVER AND
THE

COUNCIL --

I THINK IT'S THE FIRST

MEETING, ISN'T
IT?

THE FIRST MEETING IS --

IT REALLY DEPENDS ON
HOW

QUICKLY THE
COUNTY.

UNDERSTOOD.

BUT I THINK WE'VE NEVER
MISSED
THE FIRST MEETING.

SO IS THAT JUST STAFF

DIRECTION,

OR DO WE HAVE
TO MOVE IT?
OKAY.

AND I DON'T WANT TO -- I DON'T

KNOW IF THERE'S SUPPORT FOR

THAT, BUT --

SO WHAT'S YOUR
MOTION?
I'D SUPPORT THAT.

IT'S NOT A MOTION.

THEY SAID IT'S JUST STAFF
DIRECTION.

AND WHAT'S THE
DIRECTION?

THE DIRECTION WOULD BE
TO

COME BACK THE SECOND WEEK,WEEK,

MEETING IN DECEMBER WITH
AN

AGENDA ITEM TO CREATE AN AD
HOC

WITH A SCOPE OF WORK TO
BE

DETERMINED BUT WOULD BRING
BOTH

PROPERTIES THAT WE
WERE

DISCUSSING DOWNTOWN AND

O'REILLY

BACK IN TO GET SOME

INFORMATION

ENOUGH TO SUBMIT A PROPOSAL FOR

THIS SAME FINANCIAL SCOPE
OF

WORK TO THE MIDYEAR BUDGET
REVIEW.

I SECOND
THAT.

OKAY, SO WE'LL DO IT AS
A
MOTION.

THANKS.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY

SOMETHING

TO MAKE SURE THAT

EVERYONE'S

TALKING ABOUT THE
SAME THING.

AN AD HOC IS COMPRISED SOLELY
OF

TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO NO --

NOT THE FULL --

NOT THE COMMITTEE AND
EVERYTHING, RIGHT.

IT'S STAFF AND

TWO COUNCIL
MEMBERS, CORRECT?
YEAH.

AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT
THE

SCOPE OF WORK -- BECAUSE I
AGREE

THE TOWN HALLS WERE NOT

TYPICAL

IN AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, SO
IT

MIGHT -- WE'LL DETERMINE
THE

SCOPE OF WORK AT THAT
TIME.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I
STILL

JUST STRUGGUAL LE WITH THE WHOLE

MONEY THING, SO I DON'T
WANT
WORK THROWN AT IT EITHER.

IT'S MUCH MORE FINANCIALLY IS
AN
ISSUE FOR ME RIGHT NOW.

SO ANYWAY.

SO YOU JUST NEED
DIRECTION?

WE HAVE A
MOTION.

CAN YOU READ THE MOTION BACK?

SO THE MOTION I HEARD
WAS

MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON

AND SECONDED BY VICE
MAYOR

MAURER TO DIRECT STAFF FOR
THE

SECOND MEETING BACK IN

DECEMBER

AND AD HOC COMMITTEE
WITH

PROPOSED SCOPE OF WORK
TO

INCLUDE BOTH LOCATIONS, AND
TO

BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR

CONSIDERATION AT THAT SAID
MEETING.

AND THEN DIDN'T YOU

HAVE IT

WOULD ALSO GO TO BUDGET

REVIEW -- IN PREPARATION TO
GO

TO BUDGET
REVIEW, RIGHT?

PART OF THE SCOPE OF
WORK

WOULD BE IN PREPARATION FOR
THE

MIDYEAR
BUDGET.

MIDYEAR BUDGET
REVIEW.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A

STATEMENT BEFORE WE VOTE, IT'S
JUST

I CAN'T SUPPORT HAVING

SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF OUR
DOWNTOWN.

SO I WILL BE VOTING NO, BUT
I

WANT PEOPLE TO
UNDERSTAND WHY.

I'M JUST NOT SUPPORTIVE
OF

MOVING IT OUT OF DOWNTOWN
AND

HAVING THAT
AS PART OF IT.

AND WE HAVE TO DO THIS
PAST

BECAUSE AS A POINT OF ORDER AT
10:30 WE ALL HAVE TO
AGREE,

OTHERWISE THE
MEETING ENDS.

MAYOR.

YOU'RE GOING TO READ IT
AGAIN.

INCLUDE
THE DOWNTOWN.

I'M SORRY?

WE INCLUDED
THE DOWNTOWN.

RIGHT.

SO SO MOVED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER

HINTON AND SECONDED BY
VICE

MAYOR MAURER TO DIRECT

STAFF TO

BRING IT BACK AT THE SECOND
IN

DECEMBER CREATION OF

AN AD HOC

COMMITTEE WITH THE

PROPOSED

SCOPE OF WORK TO INCLUDE
STAFF

TIME IN DEFINITIONS AND THEN
FOR

CONSIDERATION OF BOTH

LOCATIONS

IN PREPARATION FOR THE

MIDYEAR
BUDGET REVIEW.

IF IT

WASN'T SECONDED --
IT WAS, YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER?
YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON.

AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER
ZOLLMAN.

YES.

VICE
MAYOR MAURER.

YES.

MAYOR
McLEWIS.

AT THIS TIME,
NO.

MOTION PASSES 4-1
WITH

COUNCIL MEMBERS CARTER, HINTON,

ZOLLMAN, AND VICE --

I CAN SEE BY

BODY LANGUAGE WE'RE NOT

STAYING
PAST 10:30.

WE HAVE TO HAVE

UNANIMOUS
AGREEMENT TO STAY PAST 10:30,
SO

THE MEETING WILL
BE ADJOURNING.

THANK YOU. [Event Concluded]

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