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33 o Worried about affect on business bottom line if customers cannot find parking, including during construction – would appreciate a parking and staging plan during construction.
• Hemborg Ford
o Located at Second and Hamner since 1987.
o Own the whole block.
o Have to deal with State regulations. Auto dealer buildings cannot be located closer than 10 miles from one another. This limits number of dealerships that can be located in Norco due to presence of dealerships within nearby cities. o City changed zoning to allow tractor supplies stores on parcels zoned for auto dealerships. to come in. Was supposed to be dealership. Auto Dealers can only be 10 miles away form one another as crow flies.
o People will drive further for sales, but not for service. o Would like to see signs prescribing no overnight parking along both sides of adjacent side street since motor homes and big rigs sometimes park there. o Had some issues with plan submission for tenant improvement work. Plans were lost by City’s review consultant during review process. Norco Camper’s plans were also lost.
• Potential business opportunities that could compliment existing businesses:
o Dog sitting.
o Town Center: Eastvale is introducing a town center with park, amphitheater, city hall, library, etc. Similar to The GardenWalk in Anaheim.
o Near the Community Center. Bridge across.
o Norco Museum – something horse-related and small businesses that support the museum.
o Do not design like Dos Lagos in Corona.
• Hamner Avenue:
o Hamner traffic is not too bad. Sixth and Second traffic moves steady. Tends to back up when the freeway backs up. Gets busy at rush hour as people exit freeway to take Sixth and California/Crestview to Riverside.
o Has good access from I-15.
o Norco College traffic has been mediated with introduction of double left turns and better light syncing at Third St.
o Hamner works well with businesses spaced out. Concerned about parking/access issues when fills in.
o Introduce wholesome, western-themed buildings and family -friendly businesses and activities such as miniature golf.
o Hotels are popping up near Silver Lakes
o Introduce a restaurant at Silver Lakes?
o Discussed idea of walkable Town Center along Hamner. Concern that businesses would compete with Sixth Street businesses. Old Town Temecula is very busy. Sixth St. has six feed stores along with concrete and glass stores. Smaller businesses cannot make it because of Amazon. Sixth Street should be Norco’s draw. Like Old Town Temecula is Temecula’s.
o 300+ apartment complex at 3rd and Hamner. Low-income apartments, with retail on ground floor.
• Parking issues are going to affect Norco.
• How grow the economy without killing the culture.
• Eastvale own all their own streetlights. Edison owned lights have restrictions about putting banners, etc.
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34 Appendix L. Home-Based Businesses Focus Group
This focus group took place on September 20, 2023 at 1 p.m. and was attended by Margaret Millspaugh of Kmar Farms, Patrick Mithcell of The Wild Bunch Flower Company, and Andrea and Thomas Montgomery of the Imperial Knights Production Company. Project team members David Sargent and Juan Gomez-Novy, along with Jean Ward from the City of Norco, were also in attendance. Below are the complete notes from the meeting. • Kmar Farms
o Small, one-acre farm.
o Holds events such as chicken farm show, shows in Fall and Christmas time, end of year barbecue. Would like to do more fundraisers.
o Used to do show in Orange County, moved to Norco because of growth in Orange County. vendors sell.
o A non-profit – has to charge admission fee to cover costs (sign fee, vendor fees). o Patrons come from as far away as Orange County, Long Beach, and Ventura. Many patrons from Orange County since started in Orange County – only 20-minute drive on a Sunday.
o Must get permits every time does an event – sometimes can get a permit for two consecutive days. Also has a farm license from Riverside County. o Does not have on-site parking. Works with residents who provide parking and have to City where parking is going to occur for events. Curb and fencing introduced along Second Street prevent parking along Second St. Right across the street is a vacant, triangular-shaped piece of City-owned land that would be a great place for event parking – would love to lease from City for event parking. Located right next to Star Bright Riding Academy, which has a lot of parking.
• Wild Bunch Flower Company.
o Florist – farm-to-florist theme specializing in fresh-cut flowers from local growers. o Grow 25% of flowers on site. Baby’s Breath, Status, which can produce all year. o Had storefront on Sixth St., but had to close because could not get people to come in.
Opened up home-based business that has boomed since then. Have 25 x 25 garage that is converted to a flower shop. Also deliver. Are opening a storefront in San Clemente.
o Property is zoned agriculture – assumes floral subject to agriculture zoning. o Customer base is primarily located in Norco, but also serves Riverside, Corona, Ontario, Eastvale. If wedding in Norco, typically serve that wedding. Also do some weddings further afield – San Luis Obispo, Big Bear.
o Suppliers of flowers not grown on site are located in San Bernardino, Orange County, mostly Orange County. Delivery trucks are small trucks – 14- to 16-foot box trucks. • Imperial Knights Production Co.
o Provide medieval entertainment all over county and aloo on their property. o Started in Orange County at Medieval Times then moved to Norco. o Pre-Covid all business was road-shows. Corporate events, County fairs. During and post-Covid also began performing on their property: birthday parties, fundraisers, Taco Tournament Tuesday.
o Norco is a good location because is centrally located near freeways. o Travel with eight-man crew + four horses.
o Would love to participate in more City-sponsored events – jousting and medieval rodeo (as local business).
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35 • Zoning Code / Permit:
o City should make licensing more streamlined and easier to follow: fees and related time periods and what license applies.
o Would love to see event permit (and associated signage/banner) that applies to multiple days or a longer time period. Permitting costs are high. Have employee expenses, too.
o City has been very good from a business perspective. One time Code Enforcement came in. There were a lot of sidewalk vendors and they were told that they just needed a business license. Have been successful because of the community of Norco.
• Horse manure:
o Manure management is very important – has to be efficient and inexpensive and streamlined.
o Currently must be collected by Waste Management – can be fined if someone else picks it up.
o Waste Management fees are very expensive – with boarding facility costs 1,000s of dollars per month.
o Waste Management takes to composting facility – Vera Montes. State law requires that all organic waste be recycled. City did pass law that you can compost. o Use manure to generate electricity?
• Water
o Charges on water meter were supposed to go only for two years, but continued on after two years.
o Process for getting agriculture meter costs thousands of dollars. Agricultural water rate is same as domestic, minus sewer fee. Would appreciate a lower agricultural water rate - problem is 90% of water is imported, with only 10% coming from city wells – but can City provide discount based on their 10% water supply? o Norco has interesting mix of businesses on residential properties – for instance, a bicycle repair and mechanics business opened up on west side of town. • Streets
o Cut through traffic is directed by Google Maps. People blow through stop signs – won’t ride horses on some streets during rush hour. Can tell the cut-through traffic. Would love to see big bumps along River Drive. o Disappointed about white fences. Fences along River Drive are new and keeping people from parking along Riverside Dr.
• Fire safety – brush fires along bluff at Santa Ana Reiver. Worried about brush fires burning Norco down.
• Norconians support each other – want to support each other and buy from one another.
Appendix M. Sixth Street Businesses Focus Group
This focus group took place on September 20, 2023 at 4 p.m. and was attended by Marlene Flory of Dixie Lee’s Boutique, Jared Vieyra of Speakeasy BBQ, Ferdinand Concepcion of Deep Barrel Roasters & Creamery, Tom Crouse of Grocery Outlet, and Jenny McKee of Saddle Sore Saloon. Project team members David Sargent and Juan Gomez-Novy, along with Jean Ward from the City of Norco, were also in attendance. Below are the complete notes from the meeting.
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36 • Sixth Street Issues
o Traffic/circulation
Sixth St. should be designed so people don’t speed through – need to slow traffic down and capture people leaving from events at the Ingalls (and SilverLakes).
30K cars flow through Sixth St. every day.
Sixth St. is very dangerous for horses and peds. Motorists drive too fast. A lot of traffic is non-local traffic and locals avoid Sixth St., which hurts business. Eastvale apparently wanted to add another offramp, but did not happen. River Road is another cut-through street.
Other than freeway, not a lot of ways to get to Norco since mountains separate Norco from surrounding communities and limit street connections. Concern that if the Sixth St. I-15 offramp is redone and temporarily closed will negatively affect Sixth St. businesses. Provide detour along Fifth St. to Sixth St. if freeway ramp is redone.
Sixth St. is too far from SilverLakes. Need to adjust circulation at Silverlakes so can easily make a left onto Hamner. Currently takes too long to make a left – people would rather make a right towards Eastvale and Limonite. Also, once people are headed south on Hamner, need to make sure people know to make a left on Sixth once they get there.
o Current signage standards limit what people can see when passing by – size, color requirements need to be adjusted. Trees block view of signage making it hard to attract patrons.
o People can walk on horse paths if are maintained properly – have to be packed down by City on weekly basis.
o Horse trail fence is too tall for retail – but if make shorter, may be too short for horses.
o Sixth St. is dark at night – needs better lighting.
o Need an anchor on Sixth. St. – Ingalls is not enough. o There has been an increase in the number of burglaries, which hurts business. More police presence is needed. For sense of safety.
o No parking to hold events and code enforcement will not let happen. o Lot originally used for trailer parking at corner of Sixth and California is now fenced off.
o People going to Ingalls Center confused by going through residential neighborhood. • Sixth St. Opportunities
o Would like to see Sixth St. become a more comfortable, livelier, place that can walk with improved, safer horse access. Want to be able to walk around at night, like Downtown Temecula. If want to attract families should provide park or plaza at center of Sixth, not at end – include a splash pad.
o Mentioned that there had been a plan to introduce a center median in Sixth St. with street trees in it. Center median would be problematic since would make difficult for big rigs and trailers to access Sixth St. businesses. Deliveries are every day – some trucks make multiple deliveries to various businesses along Sixth St. o Potential and pipeline businesses
Could use a tack store, but too expensive for Norco. Horse owners like to look at tack and saddles in person.
Ice cream shop going in next to taco bell next to grocery outlet. Horse Museum. There is currently Horseman Hall by the Legion and part of the Library.
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37 o Precedents:
Dos Lagos in Corona, although currently has a lot of empty shops. Like the design and the types of stories (therapeutic things, healthy thing, etc.). Also schedules events to attract people.
Corona is redeveloping the showcase theater. Turning into a concert venue with a retractable roof. Holding events to pull in crowds. o Consider instituting a Property and Business Improvement District (PBID)? o Architectural style for Sixth St. (and other parts of Norco) can include early 1900s, hacienda, western, or like Norconian hotel.
o Business owners along Sixth St. can work with a non-profit event to drive traffic along Sixth St.
• Hospitability
o Norco is not having its fair share of food and beverage and hospitality. o Need more visitor-serving uses and hotels for events at Ingalls Arena. o There currently are no hotels/motels along Sixth. Would be great if people could stay overnight along Sixth St.
o No hotel where can keep horses – hotels along Hamner do not have trailer parking. o No place to camp in Norco – many horse event attendees would like to camp. o Consider introducing Dude Ranch cabins – there are a lot of empty lots. o Existing Norco hotels generally not attractive to visitors. New hotels should not include kitchenettes – no extended stay hotels.
o Airbnb not allowed in Norco.
• A nice Marriott hotel would draw people.
• Motorcross events at Ingalls. BMX riders events.
• Lights need to change quicker for pedestrians and equestrians. • Other
o Water park to be introduced at SilverLakes.
o Eastvale will benefit from improvements to new bridge. o Businesses along Hamner are not open past 7:00.
o Santa Ana Bike Trail: Norco could be a stop along the way. o Horses should have right-of-way (over cars, bikes).
Appendix N. Events Leadership Focus Group
This focus group took place on October 19, 2023 at 12 p.m. and was attended by Dianne Summers of the Norco Mounted Posse and Jon Grundmeyer of the Norco Fair. Project team member Juan Gomez-Novy, along with Jean Ward, Alma Robles, and Lori Sassoon from the City of Norco, were also in attendance. Below are the complete notes from the meeting. • Rural lifestyle
o Love having the best of both worlds in Norco: rural living and modern offerings on Hamner.
o Lots of great things we can do to keep Norco a rural community. o Very proud of lifestyle and opportunity here. It’s a very unique lifestyle. o Number of horses seem to be dwindling. Lots of people moving here for opportunity to have land, not necessarily horses.
o KTLA recently did a story about the EAT Center. Huell Howser has featured Norco. o As cost-of-living increases, people want to be able to raise and consume agriculture and animals on their land (including chickens, meat, etc.), instead of buying it at the store.
o Very noticeable difference between organic homegrown vs commercially grown.
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38 o Goal of Norco 100 years ago was to live here and grow your own food. This is important – sustainability and DIY.
o Norco is more than just horses, i.e., Horsetown – there is a lot of ag and animal keeping. Also centrally located and near mountains and beach and perfect weather. o Farmers market and EAT Center are expanding rural lifestyle – not horses. Sustainability for your family is important – growing vegetables and animal keeping.
o Need plan in place to draw people to come to Norco and keep it young. Too expensive now. Membership in groups in this town are old – the baton needs to be passed on the next generation in order to sustain Norco’s lifestyle. This should be the number one priority. Young people with same values for our community. How do we pass the core values to the next generation?
o Having the value – why do you want to be here. Not just Horsetown USA. How to create value to those that don’t want horses, but want a rural lifestyle. What are the core values. Mission statement. Core values.
• Ingalls Event Center:
o Both Norco Fair and Mounted Posse are non-profits that give back to community, raising money for agricultural programs, science camp, youth groups – programs such as FFA, 4H, Little League, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts. o Facilities
There are many opportunities to improve the events center and to compete with SilverLakes.
Feedback from those coming out of town to events:
• No 1 request is trailer parking. More people would come for events and tail rides. Road trips too – this could be a stop if there was more trailer parking.
• Not enough horse stalls
• Ask about campgrounds for RV’s and that allow horses. • We have the facilities – just need parking and places to stay for visitors.
Would like to see installation of permanent stadium style bleachers in Ingalls.
Currently rent bleachers, which is very expensive.
A ton of possibilities with the Barn. Just a matter of finding right events. Should be pushed because you could really do anything in there. There is a conceptual Ingalls Master Plan
o Events
Performers for Mounted Posse Rodeo coming from all over CA, AZ, NV, sometimes Canada. Performers are professional cowboys.
Largest paid rodeo in Country is in San Juan Capistrano (SJC) – out-oftowners who participate in SJC often will participate in Norco, too – the do both.
Parking and seating are the two biggest hinderances to holding larger shows. City runs Day of the Cowboy, which is a National event and Norco celebrates it.
City needs to run events in order to continue non-profit mission. o Silverlakes – one of premier soccer fields in So Cal. Lots of tournaments and scouts come to watch.
• Land use and Circulation
o Norco never been able to get a Trader Joe’s or Sprouts. We don’t have that and want that. Let’s do thing that attract that.
o Too much cut thru traffic on Sixth street, but it would have high visibility and be convenient.
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39 o Love the little restaurants in town, but you really need to leave to have something nice and special for restaurants.
o Streets and horse trails – need consistent improvement (City is working on that) o There is so much to build on here.
The pumpkin – make the trail up there nicer – build on things we already have.
So many things that are good and would not be expensive to build on. o If got older, would be great to have people to help care for horses. Retirement community with stables.
o Hotels here are great.
o We need some big national chain restaurants, but community needs to go and use it. o There is nowhere to go get a nice steak; need to go to Eastvale. o We need more to capture sales tax to fund trails, etc. Measure R (1%) tax. o Hamner Ave.
Hamner would be good for new restaurants and grocery stores. Big deal to get Dutch Bros.
To go have a nice meal, eventually you want something different, and we don’t have that.
Appendix O. Faith-Based Focus Group
This focus group took place on September 21, 2023 at 3 p.m. and was facilitated by project team member Susan Harden. Below are the attendees and complete notes from the meeting.
Name Affiliation
B.J. Walker Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS) Pastor Rene Parish Beacon Hill Assembly of God
Pastor Erin Diaz Adame New Beginnings Community Church
Pastor Spencer Parish Beacon Hill Church
Pastor Phil Wozniak Grace Fellowship Church
Pastor Darryle W. Kozak Bethany Lutheran Church
Marilyn Obermeyer Bethany Lutheran Church
Rosalie Smith Bethany Lutheran Church
What is One Word or Phrase You Would Use to Describe Norco? (icebreaker) • Unique
• Hometown feel
• Community-focused
• Families
• Intergenerational
• Country – ethics, culture
• Community connections
• Rural lifestyle
• Faith-based community (30+ churches in the City)
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40 Other Assets
• Norco College + proximity to Cal State Fullerton
• Open space, parks, and trails
• Events + festivities + parades, fair
• Unique food here now, not chains: Badlands, Deep Barrel, Japanese Uzu, Speakeasy BBQ • Local shops & boutiques, e.g. Country Rose
• Churches are property owners and recognized
Issues/Concerns
• Drivers cut through town to get to Riverside
• Traffic seems to be going faster
• When any street is closed it is very difficult to get around town • Where to develop?
• Miss the trees down the center of Sixth
• Dutch Bros - increased traffic
• Church properties - have no distinct zoning; can something be done to help churches grow and expand?
Opportunities & Ideas
• Emphasize values of religion/faith – these are hallmarks of small town character o Organize regular convenings between City and Faith Leaders to coalesce around the needs of the community; create more intentional partnerships to solve community issues, support community services, coordinate use of church property for parking/events, provide advice to city staff, learn from each other, etc. Put aside any differences in faith/practice and work to solve community problems. o Parks and Rec - consider not hosting events on Sundays (keep/value Sunday) o Support church-sponsored activities like a “church fair” for residents to learn about faith offerings
• Support intergenerational families
• Need more young families and get involved
• Young families struggle with money and housing affordability • Seniors need help with property maintenance, food, etc. Churches need to coordinate services to avoid duplication and reach more people.
• Explore historic designation for buildings/districts? Could help avoid state mandates and restrictions.
• Restore Norconian
• Half acre lot size is important to character
• ADUs = opportunity for housing expansion
• Entrepreneurship is strong – small, local, unique offerings (low rent?); build upon this; support local creativity and respect hard working small businesses • Support agri-tourism (Thursday market, flower sales, etc.) • Be selective, mindful, and continue to attract diverse businesses • Chains not attracted to Norco (good thing!)
• Need nice, high quality restaurants
• Cracker Barrel (fits character)
• Trader Joe’s
• Consider BMX pump track (outdoorsy, family activities) • City website updates are good, but still Facebook is a better spot to go to find out what is happening in town. Can we consider some sort of coordinated online community bulletin board? [“Norco Uncensored” page on Facebook is good outreach avenue/place to see community concerns]
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41 Appendix P. Youth Commissioners Focus Group
This focus group took place on September 21, 2023, and was attended by five youth commissioners. Project team member Susan Harden and Alma Robles from the City of Norco were facilitators. Below are the complete notes from the meeting.
Favorite things about Norco:
• Horses
• Horse trails
• Closeness of the community
• Parks
• Safety
• Rural
• “Homey”
What Makes Norco Unique?
• One high school (but we need to create better access; some kids don’t go because they can’t get there)
• Farming community – small farms and animals on property • Pumkin Rock Trail
• Lots of places to exercise and take horses
• Horse trails – they help buffer walkers from traffic
Priorities/Ideas for the Future:
• More sidewalks separated from horse trails with bike lanes • More / continued support for youth sports
• Keep Norco culture, but modernize (like an app for local horse trails; adding street lights for safe evening horseback riding, biking and walking – especially on California Ave) • Get more youth to participate; consider holding big events at the high school • Improve public transportation – trams, buses
• Can ride bus to JFK school, but no buses will get students to Norco High. Thirty minute walk from nearest stop.
• Love the parks, but the flat grassy areas are waste of space and consume too much water.
Replace with basketball courts, volleyball, tennis and native plants or community gardens. • Need public swimming pool. Would be great for family events – watching movies, etc. • Avoid grass in lawns (water use)
• Add class II bikeways on Temescal and Hamner
• Create more of a town center not cut in half by a road; or make it easy to walk back and forth across the street
• A town center should have parks, stores connected by sidewalks, ability to ride or walk to get there; and only park once if you have to drive
• Add more places to tie up horses (with shade, water) – stores, school, etc. Make it easy for people to use horses for transportation.
• Need more basketball facilities for recreational/pick up games • Add a skateboard park – one that also supports scooters, bmx bikes • More city events that bring the community together
• Zoning not efficient. Mostly houses with no stores or anything they can get to by walking or biking Need small neighborhood stores.
• Too much water wasted on watering our parks. However, JFK hills are dry and need attention.
Maybe allow gardening club to work in the hills?
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42 • Would be great to have a place for teens to hang out – like a community center where we wouldn’t get in trouble for loitering.
• Add a dog park. Most cities have a dog park.
Appendix Q. RURAL Stakeholder Meeting
This presentation took place on October 26, 2023 at the Sixth Street Deil, and was attended by approximately 30 RURAL members and guests.
Questions, Concerns, & Ideas:
• A Conservation Element will be very important in Norco • Overhead utilities – what is status?
• Will the future of the prison be discussed during the process? • We should do what we can to avoid state mandates
• Need to think about public safety; Norco not immune to crime of LA and other places • Arts for adults is important; consider supporting Norco having its own symphony orchestra Appendix R. Future Farmers of America (FFA) Students
This focus group took place on November 2, 2023, and was attended by several high school students representing FFA plus their faculty leader Robyn Grundmeyer. Project team member Susan Harden and Alma Robles from the City of Norco were facilitators. Below are highlights from the meeting.
Favorite Things About Norco:
• Small town feel; everyone knows everyone; people take care of and help one another; community is supportive of youths’ career aspirations.
• The community is what makes it great – love how whole community goes to parades and events.
• A safe place to live – feels safe
• Lots of small businesses in Norco and less chain stores than in surrounding communities • Stripes on Sixth Street
• Safe
• Pretty – trees
• Horsetown and horse events – not a lot of towns have this; love seeing people riding their horses.
• Events
• Welcoming
Concerns:
• Roads are rough
• Construction issues, especially around school zones (kids are late to school due to construction)
• Would love to continue to live in Norco, but housing prices are expensive (for people just starting out).
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43 Desires/Ideas for the Future:
• Sync the traffic lights
• More spots to hang out for teens would be nice
• A small downtown would be nice
• More city activities
• Local movie theater (maybe a drive-in)
• Would like to move back to Norco or stay here
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Comment Card Responses
May 28, 2024 Open House #3
The Barn at Ingalls Event Center
1 MAY 28th WORKSHOP | INPUT FROM NOTE CARDS
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• Safety strategy for Hamner & Sixth – Please consider increased police enforcement for speeding and red light runners
• Concrete medians in lieu of turn lanes will negatively impact business access from the other side of the road. These medians are very costly. Please spend money on our terrible roads.
• Who is pushing for a downtown/walkable town center? We DON’T want this. This is a completely out of touch idea to Norco. Do not integrate downtown Fullerton to Norco.
Please.
• No street parking or bike specific lanes. This ALWAYS negatively impacts traffic flow. Look to Santa Monica.
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• Transportation. What about enforcement to control speed and reduce collision? Having a police officer to radar speed, especially on Sixth St.
• Closing the pass through to Riverside, closing off California at Norco border. • No street parking, feels too much like Orange County. • NO MORE HOTELS
• Don’t like the houses behind buildings
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• Senior Center
• Senior Services
• Senior Living
• Maintain log trailer/vehicle parking in design
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• What are you doing about the floods that we have every winter in the Valleyview Ave south of Sixth Street, Corona Hillside Street, etc.?
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• Alma, In the last 25 years, what project stands out the most that was approved illegible but long term did not ILLEGIBLE the results
• Jason – Early Caltrans planning ILLEGIBLE
• Early business hours limitations. Nor freight facilities operations before 8am. ++++++++++++++++
• Medians – explain to public that these are for safety reasons. These medians will inhibit motorists from executing dangerous left hand turns.
2 • Major speeding on residential streets. Many drivers (including those pulling trailers) are in excess of 45-50 mph
• Center Ave and Sixth Street needs attention, maybe a street light • Trail maps and markers/signs need some “serious” attention. They are basically no-existent. • Any possibility of policing S.A. Riverbed to make it safer? This would be great. ++++++++++++++++
• No ADUs on lots that equal less than .5 acre per dwelling ++++++++++++++++
• No medians anywhere – nightmare for driving with horse trailer • No calming medians
• No sidewalks
• No bike paths, lanes are ok
• No golf carts, not safe for horses
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• Graphics and charts were very hard to read.
• Tip: your company shows how they don’t care to actually learn this town. 15 East and 15 West? Every “section” has a name: Bluffs, Old Town, etc. • No cement please for multifamily homes.
• This presentation was super more drawn out than it needed to be. I live and work here. Many in the audience do not rely on their phones. They are voicing their opinions. They are not being heard.
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• Suggestion: Sixth St vacant parcel:
o Subterrain parking, multi-level
o 1-2 level building but we need more parking to encourage o Back could be affordable housing solutions
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• The recent development on 2nd St and the new Carmax dealership are not rural or small town at all. How can we ensure you don’t allow more BIG, overscale developments that do not reflect what we want Norco to become?
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• Will any mixed use i.e. commercial/residential be owner occupied restricted to limit investment/retail by owners?
3 ++++++++++++++++
• Traffic/safety: speed controls – speed humps (not bumps) in residential and school areas + better lighting in residential
• Corydon between Vine and 5th:
• Flashing stop signs at those intersections
• Reduce speed – there is a fire station, sports players and horses crossing • Crosswalks
• Light that changes – not just always green
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• Extra parking (sub-terrain?) for 6th or 4th St lots and can have public transit from there to the future pedestrian only centers on Sixth…seasonal (or year-round) horse-drawn carriages or wagons from parking to pedestrian areas if not walking distance • And if not hay bales/planters to effect change…speed humps to enforce speeds!!! ++++++++++++++++
• River Road speeds between the bridge and Corydon
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• Old Hamner Road – Is there a plan to place a horse trail from the River Trail to Detroit St and through to Sixth Street?
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• Where is the funding and who is funding it?
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• Norco does not need a dispensary/smoke shops
• Norco does not need any more hotels. We already have 29! • Norco does not need any more auto/dealerships.
• Norco does not ever need apartments.
• Norco needs more enforcement like Lake Forest.
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• We need big box stores (like Costco) for revenue, not apartments or walking retail • No street parking
• No bike lanes
• No sidewalks
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• We need police to write tickets for speeders
4 ++++++++++++++++
• Slides (some) are too difficult to read – are they available online? • Bulb outs will interfere with trailer turning
• Are Norco’s traffic collisions high/low/average in the state? How much change is necessary? ++++++++++++++++
• 22% Sixth Street. Make more traffic illegible. Add % of illegible with shops and more places to go.
o What % for Hamner and % for River?
• Timeline for adoption to implementation phases?
• Sidewalks the length of Hamner on both sides
• Hamner street parking just removed
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• Queston: what is “improving equestrian trails” considering? Just frequency of grooming trails post rain, or more?
• How can you slow residential speeding? Riverside traffic to and from work • Average speed by my house is 40mph
• Stop signs mean nothing
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• Once a GP is adopted, can it be modified? How? What is the process? • Please define traffic calming
• What is an ATP grant?
• How is GP funded?
• What is the plan for the vacant land next to hidden Valley Wildlife (yes, I realize its Riverside, but looking for any input)
• Active frontage behind horse trails like Saddlesore and Whisky River • Entice larger revenue generating business on Hamner
• Keep Sixth Street rural
• Like concept of Old Hamner – food and small shops
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• Why are you asking the community as to what private property owners should do with THEIR property?
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• What about homes on Sixth – will they have to move?
5 ++++++++++++++++
• To clarify, once adopted Fall 2025, changes will begin and continue through 2050 (not start 2050)?
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• Where is our Silver Lakes Equestrian Center? It is soccer fields? ++++++++++++++++
• How many active horse riders are there in Norco (approx)? ++++++++++++++++
• Hard to say “like” on survey when we don’t know how it will be implemented ++++++++++++++++
• Will the General Plan supersede or affect our PACA ordinance? ++++++++++++++++
• Strategies for Hamner. It depends on how they are done. • We have walking trails. They are horse trails.
• Keep bikes away from horses.
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• Bring back the Plunge. May 2024 ABC News – 1 in 4 cannot swim. Need aquatic facility. • Sheriff should fine vs tickets for speeding
• Question: why do people leave Norco? Work, eat, exercise, recreate • More right of way signs
• Center lanes on Hamner are unsafe during elevation changes • Relocate shops on Sixth to Hamner North
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• Corona Ave between 1st and 2nd needs speed bumps to slow traffic. Many people use it to avoid traffic on Temescal by the schools
• No multifamily housing or hotels
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• California Ave – people drive fast all hours of the day and night. Sometimes passing slower cars the on left side to go around – speed bumps!
• No parking on Sixth St
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• Residential streets intersections need wider than radius • Continuity of trails
• No parking on Hamner and Sixth
• More parking for events at Ingalls
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• 4th & Hamner area – would like to encourage senior housing if housing is an option. It’s walkable to the grocery store and the Norco Senior Center. ++++++++++++++++
• How many traffic accidents were out of town drives?!! ++++++++++++++++
• No low income housing
• Plan for homeless
• To remain a horse town, safe living, no multi- family housing, apts, etc. ++++++++++++++++
• Public illumination
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• Relocating Clark Field – where would it be relocated? The homes near Clark are old and unappealing, not a nice entry to the town or a neighborhood I’d spend time in or allow my children unattended. Not representable. Restoration of the ballpark and adding another field invite constant traffic and family activity and belonging to your town’s sports yields pride in your city through several generations. Focusing on sports would be beneficial on several fronts, including revenue and community. Restore sports fields and watch Norco flourish! Softball and baseball are well received!
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• Why did we not put exit lanes both north and southbound 15 Fwy @ Sixth St when we refurbished them last year?
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• This town needs to give adolescent “boys” something to do. They want skateboards, dirt bikes, drive golf carts. Don’t care about riding horses. A BMX track for electric bikes would be great!
• Not including boarding ranches, how many horses are really in the backyards of 7000 rooftops?
7 • Until cut through traffic is diverted, Sixth Street is lost! ++++++++++++++++
• More pedestrian/equestrian only areas (i.e. no drive streets near eating/shopping with plenty of nearby parking)
• With improved pedestrian/equestrian connections to shops • Outdoor dining/socializing spaces
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• I am a 26 year old Norconian. I have lived in this town for 20+ years, but I do not currently own property. And, currently, it looks like I will be forced out of the city as there is a lack of housing that is affordable. I hope that you would include more options for housing the general plan before Norco forces out a younger population of Norconians who are facing a decision on where they will live in the future.
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• More police presence to enforce speed limits and running stop signs. Enforcement of violators scaring/harassing horses.
• Safer access to the river trails
• Turn Norconian into a boutique hotel with shops/restaurants • Include more horse/animal friendly restaurants with outside seating ++++++++++++++++
• Speed is one thing but how do we address all the blatant red light runners? • Narrowing streets will ask for more problems, not lessen them • Hidden Valley Nature reserve has trails used by bikes, horses, and walkers with no problem • Corona did housing above shops and that increased traffic nightmares and expensive housing
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• Research idea to close down or limit the “pass through” traffic from Arlington and California. Toll idea – pay to cut through and money to go to road improvements. Or put in diversion tactics to limit or eliminate traffic.
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• Detroit/Taft – Bridge for peds and equine. Add for socializing and community. ++++++++++++++++
• Apartments – only if there is a horse component attached to the apartments
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• Is this meet a required clause of the City development protocol. Some say the Plan is already designed despite our concerns or will be drafted despite our concerns. What is your #1 goal?
• Park in the Santa Ana River?
• You address Sixth Street. What about River Drive – speed bumps. River Drive – speed bumps, police
• Gate community at California and Arlington. 0530-0700, 1630-1800. Pass thru for over 100 vehicles in a residential area. It’s a pass thru. They don’t stop and shop on Sixth Street. I have followed many times.
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• When the general plan is done, can it be changed?
• What is downtown?
• Does CA/Sacramento require traffic flow from 15 and from Riverside through town? • Bike lane cost not justified
• Bridge to Hamner and Sixth Street
• Transit improvements? Pass through traffic relocation (?) • Policy illegible?
• Show illegible or limit access
• Old Hamner for community illegible
• Detroit over Frwy connect to pedestrian bridge
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• Walking down the streets of Norco was not what the town was designed for. Norco was designed to ride your horse around.
• Hamner should be for shopping, bikes, and walk paths
• Keep buses off of Sixth Street