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WE'VE GOT
IT.

PERFECT.

THANK
YOU.

SORRY.

I HAVE NO CLUE WHY THAT
HAPPENED.

OKAY.

GOOD RECOVERY.

WE DID GROWING BUSINESS
TOGETHER.

THAT WAS FIVE.

ATTRACT AND SET MARKET RATE.

THAT WAS 4-1.

SUPPORT CHAMBER IN ADVERTISING
THE CITY.

THE REASON I'M A THUMBS DOWN

IS BECAUSE WE PAY FOR
SONOMA
COUNTY TOURISM TO ADVERTISE US.

IT'S ALREADY PAID FOR.

WE PAY A LOT OF
MONEY FOR THAT.

OKAY.

SO,

THEN, IT'S --
SO, 3-2?
NO.

I GUESS WE'RE ALL GOING?
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ALL GOING.

ALL FIVE?
OKAY.

I GUESS WE'RE
JUST

ELIMINATING THAT
ONE.

I'LL ELIMINATE THAT ONE.

NEXT ONE IS

PRESENTATION FROM THE

COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT

DIRECTOR ON ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT

PLAN, STRATEGY,

RESPONSIBILITY,

KEEPING TRACK OF

BUSINESSES, WHO

IS WORKING AS PART OF THE --
HOW

ARE WE WORKING AS PART OF

ECONOMIC DEVELOPER, WORKING
WITH

BROKERS WHO ARE WORKING WITH

PEOPLE SEEKING AND DEVELOPING
RELATIONSHIPS.

THAT'S FIVE
UP.
5-0.

SORRY.

NEXT ONE IS CLARIFICATION ON
THE

SEBASTOPOL DOWNTOWN BUSINESS

ASSOCIATION MERGING WITH THE
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

YES.

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THREE.

AND HOW THEY'RE SPENDING TAX
DOLLARS.

OKAY.

SO, 4-1?
YEAH.

WE'VE NEVER HAD --

AUDIT

OF CITY BUSINESS

LICENSES AND WHAT IS CITY
HALL

DOING TO KEEP ITS EYE ON THOSE
FEES?
4-1.

AND THEN REVIEW THE FORMULA
BUSINESS ORDINANCE.

FIVE UP?
NO, FOUR.

FOUR UP, ONE DOWN.

IT'S WHETHER YOU CAN

GET CHAIN

STORES IN DIFFERENT AREAS, AND

THAT ONE SAYS,

NO CHAIN STORES
DOWNTOWN.

BUT IT'S TO EXPLORE.

CAN I JUST ASK A REALLY QUICK
QUESTION?
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VICE MAYOR McLEWIS HAD

MENTIONED
BUSINESS SURVEY.

ARE YOU ASKING

TO HAVE THAT
ADDED?

HOWEVER THAT'S AT,

WHEREVER
IT'S DONE.

LET'S GO BACK TO THE FORMULA,

BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER

HAD A QUESTION ABOUT IT
AND I

DON'T THINK THAT I REALLY
EXPLAINED IT VERY WELL.

AND I ALSO THINK I WAS BUSY.

RIGHT.

CAN WE GO BACK UP TO THE

FORMULA
THING?

SOMEBODY PROVIDE A REALLY GOOD
DEFINITION FOR HIM.

RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY

ONE THAT

I HAD FOR -- ON THE

FORMULA

BUSINESS

IS WITH COUNCIL MEMBER
MAURER VOTING NO.

WELL, AND I'LL BE A NO VOTE
TOO.

WE PASSED A FORMULA

BUSINESS

ORDINANCE AND MARY CAN CORRECT

ME, THAT THERE WAS NO FORMULA
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BUSINESSES WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN

CORE THAT CAME UP WITH CITY

COUNCIL AS

A HISTORY AFTER CVS
WAS BUILT IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE.

AND IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED
AND I

THINK IT GOT ADJUSTED A FEW
YEARS AGO.

I CAN'T RECALL.

MAYBE FOUR YEARS AGO.

SO, IF WE'RE OPENING THAT BACK
UP, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

I WAS JUST AT OUR MEETING AND

HEELSBURG WAS TALKING

ABOUT HOW
THEY LOOKED AT THEIRS.

THE REASON THEY LOOKED
IS

BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME LOCAL

CALIFORNIA BUSINESSES
THAT

ACTUALLY

HAD -- YOU KNOW,

THEY'RE LOCAL

BUSINESSES BUT
THEY HAD MORE -- YEAH.

AND SO, THEY SAID THEY WENT BACK

AND RELOOKED AT THAT
AND

RE-EVALUATED IT

BECAUSE THEY WANTED

TO SUPPORT LOCAL

BUSINESSES BUT BECAUSE THEY HAD

GROWN A LITTLE BIT BEYOND WHAT

THE FORMULA BUSINESS ORDINANCE

WAS, THAT WAS ONE WAY -- REASON

FOR LOOKING
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AT IT.

THAT'S WHY I'M OPEN TO IT
JUST

BECAUSE IF IT WOULD HELP OUR

ECONOMY IN SOME
WAY.

THANK YOU FOR
THOSE
EXPLANATIONS.

LET'S DO A THUMBS UP, THUMBS
DOWN ON THAT AGAIN.

THREE UP, TWO DOWN.

NOW BACK TO THE BUSINESS SURVEY.

I'M THUMBS UP.

WE HAVE THREE UP, TWO DOWN.

ALL RIGHT, WE'VE
DONE.

NOW MOVING ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC.

THE NEXT ONE IS
HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION.

THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE
THERE

WAS BROUGHT OVER,

ACHIEVING

STAFFING PROGRAM TARGETS THAT

MET BEST STANDARDS AND
EFFICIENCIES.

COUNCIL MEMBER

MAURER, DO YOU

HAVE SOMETHING TO
CONTRIBUTE?

I HAVE SOMETHING TO

CONTRIBUTE AND THIS IS A

REALLY,
REALLY BIG TOP PRIORITY FOR ME.

IT'S ABOUT THE HOUSING DEADLINES

AND THIS GOES TO THE
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COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

WE NEED TO AVOID THE BUILDERS
REMEDY.

THAT NEEDS TO BE A REALLY
TOP
PRIORITY.

IF WE DON'T AVOID THAT,

SOMEBODY

COULD JUST COME IN, AND
THEY

DON'T -- IT'S LIKE THE
WOOD
MARK.

THEY JUST CAN RAILROAD ALL
OF

OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES, THEY CAN

RAILROAD EVERYTHING AND IT'S
CALLED THE BUILDERS REMEDY.

AND IT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE NOT

HITTING THOSE DEADLINES FOR THE
HOUSING ELEMENTS.

SO, THAT'S A TOP PRIORITY.

WHO'S TYPING THIS?
IT'S NOT ON THE SCREEN.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

EVERYONE'S WORDS ARE
BEING

CAPTURED SO WE DON'T NEED TO
GO
BACK OVER IT AGAIN.

I'D LIKE TO SEE A TOWN HALL
ON THE GARBAGE TRANSITION.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND BEFORE
MARY CAN TYPE IT OUT.

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LET'S CAPTURE EVERYTHING.

GARBAGE, GARBAGE.

TO SLOW DOWN MAJOR
DECISIONS.

SO IF WE'VE GOT A MAJOR DECISION
BEFORE US AND WE'RE A 3-2,
MAYBE

TO TAKE AN EXTRA MEETING ON
THAT.

THAT WOULD BE A COUNCIL POLICY
TO DO THAT.

AND THEN RESTORING PUBLIC TRUST.

THAT'S REALLY BIG.

THAT'S AN INTENTION, IT'S NOT
NECESSARILY A PROJECT.

AN INTENTION TO DO THAT.

GREAT.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS

ABOUT THIS,
VICE MAYOR?

WELL, I JUST SAT

THROUGH

QUITE AN EXTENSIVE --
SO,

UTILIZING TECHNOLOGY BUT
SPECIFICALLY A.I.

I JUST SAT THROUGH A REALLY
GOOD

EDUCATIONAL SEMINAR FOR HOW

CITIES, LOCALLY, ARE USING THEM.

I'M WAITING FOR THE

SLIDES, BUT
IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.

THERE'S A LOT MORE OUT THERE.

RESOURCES -- RESOURCE AND
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EDUCATION-WISE,

THAT'S FREE FOR
CITIES THAT COULD BE HELPFUL.

AWESOME.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER?

ALONG THAT SAME VEIN, I THINK

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON HAD
US
LOOK AT OUR I.T.

IS THIS WHERE THIS GOES?
YEAH, THAT.

I HAVE ONE MORE TO ADD.

WE ALREADY APPROVED THAT.

DID

WE ALREADY APPROVE THAT
WE ALREADY APPROVED THE I.T.

CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING?

COMMUNICATING WITH THE
COMMUNITY.

WE NEED TO BE BETTER AT THAT.

A

HIGH-FUNCTIONING ENTITY
HAS
BETTER COMMUNICATION.

NOT COMMUNITY -- IT WOULD
BE

COMMUNICATION, LIKE, NOT --

WOULD THAT BE -- COMMUNICATION
PLAN.

PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS?
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YEAH.

AND WITH THAT GOES REVIEW OF
OUR RFP PROCESS.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT
EVEN

WITHIN GENERAL, OUR CITY

MANAGER

REVIEW PERIOD, I THINK THAT WE

SHOULD SET SOME GUIDELINES
ABOUT
RFPs THAT WE HAVE BEEN WITH

CONSISTENTLY OVER A LONG
PERIOD

OF TIME AND PUTTING THOSE OUT
AFTER A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD.

MAYBE THAT'S FIVE YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW.

EXAMPLE MIGHT BE OUR
COMMUNICATION RFP.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE HAD
THAT

ADJUSTED OR LOOKED AT FOR A
NUMBER OF YEARS.

LET'S MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE
THAT.

CAN I JUST ADD TO THAT REALLY
QUICK?

SO, BECAUSE THAT IS WITHIN OUR

FINANCIAL POLICIES, I THINK
THAT
WHEN WE DID THE LONGTERM,

REVIEW OUR FINANCIAL

POLICIES,

THAT COULD BE AN

ACTION PLAN
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UNDER THE REVIEW OF THE

FINANCIAL POLICY, TO REVIEW THE

RFP PROCESS AND BRINGING IT
BACK.

I'LL JUST ADD LIKE A -- WHEN

WE BRING AN ACTION PLAN
BACK,

THAT THAT COULD BE A PART OF
THE
ACTION PLAN.

IT
IS CAPTURED.

IT'S JUST CAPTURED IN FINANCIAL
POLICIES.

RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER?

WHERE MIGHT WE PUT

OPERATIONAL

EFFICIENCIES,
BOTH

IN TERMS OF, LIKE, HOW
OUR --

SORRY, DEPARTMENT HEADS --
HOW

OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS REPORT
TO

US AND HAVE OPERATION
EFFICIENCY.

AND

THEN, THE SECOND IS, LIKE,

HOW WELL WE DO WITH HELPING
OUR

BUSINESSES GET PERMITS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW?

JUST STREAMLINING THE PROCESS TO
MAKE

IT EASIER TO DO BUSINESS
HERE.

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EFFICIENCIES.

AND I'M GOING TO JUMP IN TOO.

SHARED SERVICES.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS

MANY TIMES

BETWEEN US, HOWEVER IT
WORKS.

IF THERE'S INCREASING NEED FOR

SERVICE AND MANPOWER OR PERSON

POWER THAT WE DO THAT, ALSO THE

CROSS-TRAINING THING FROM
THE
CLASS COMP THING.

EVERYBODY WHO COMES

IN AT A

CERTAIN LEVEL, THEY SHOULD
BE

ABLE TO

GO WITHIN ANY DEPARTMENT
AND JUST DO THAT AT THEIR LEVEL.

ANYTHING ELSE?

BACK TO THE TOP TO DO
YES/NO.

I

JUST WANT A ASK A

CLARIFICATION OF COUNCIL
MEMBER
CARTER'S.

I GOT THE OPERATIONAL

EFFICIENCIES, WHICH I PUT UP
AT

NUMBER ONE SO THAT GOES WITH THE
BEST STANDARDS AND EFFICIENCIES.

TO
ME.

AND I MISSED THE SECOND PART OF
IT,
THOUGH.

THIS WAS STREAMLINING OUR
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PERMITTING PROCESS.

SO, THAT WOULD BE THE REVIEW
OF THE

ZONING AS TO WHAT COULD

BE STREAMLINED PROCESSES
AS

WE'RE -- IS THERE

ANYTHING

LIKE -- AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE,
ARE

THE PERMITS THAT COULD BE
DONE

BY STAFF RATHER THAN

HAVING TO

GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION OR
DRB
OR SOMETHING?

SO, IT'S A REVIEW OF
THOSE,
BEING ABLE TO STREAMLINE IT?
SURE.

DOES
THAT WORK?
YES.

WHATEVER MAKES IT BETTER.

AND THEN ALSO --
I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD, MARY.

I WAS JUST ALSO GOING TO
SAY,

HAVING EFFICIENCY IS
LIKE

BRINGING THE

DEPARTMENTS

TOGETHER LIKE THE

COMMUNITY

DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING WHICH

ARE REALLY FOCUSING TOGETHER
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SO

INSTEAD OF ONE-STOP

SHOP VERSUS

PEOPLE GOING TO DIFFERENT
DEPARTMENTS.

THAT'S
MY THOUGHT.

YES.

OKAY.

GOOD.

AND THEN ALSO THE CLASS COMP

THING AND THE

STAFFING
ASSESSMENT.

WHATEVER WE'RE DOING WITH
THOSE.

I WANT A REPORT BACK AND
AN

ACTION PLAN SOONER

RATHER THAN
LATER ON BOTH OF THOSE.

SORRY.

THOSE ARE MY LAST TWO.

NOW, IF WE CAN GO BACK UP TO THE
TOP.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ACHIEVING STAFFING PROGRAM

TARGETS THAT MAST BEST

STANDARDS

AND EFFICIENCY AND

OPERATIONAL
STAFFING EFFICIENCIES.

I WOULD JUST LIKE

TO OFFER
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ONE MORE TIME, I'D
REALLY

APPRECIATE CLARIFICATION ON WHAT
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR OUT OF THIS.

OTHERWISE, THE REPORT BACK LIKE

I SAY ASKING COUNCIL
FOR

CLARIFICATION ON

WHAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO
AND
WHY?

IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IN US
RESPONDING TO THIS.

WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO

ESTABLISH, LIKE, HOW
WE'RE
ACHIEVING OUR BUDGETS NOW.

LIKE, WHAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING

WITH OUR BUDGETS AND MAKING SURE

THAT WE ESTABLISH A BASELINE SO

THAT NEXT YEAR, WHEN WE HAVE,

LIKE, THE SAME THINGS TO

ACCOMPLISH, WE'VE DONE JUST A
LITTLE BIT BETTER.

YOU KNOW?
JUST, LIKE, 1 OR 2%.

THIS IS, LIKE, WHAT
NORMAL

PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY
HAVE
BUSINESSES.

THEY JUST TRY TO GET A LITTLE
BIT MORE EFFICIENT.

I JUST WOULD LIKE SOME BASIS TO
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UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE DOING A

LITTLE BIT
BETTER.

IS THIS

PERFORMANCE

MANAGEMENT WHERE YOU

MEASURE

COSTS PER --
FUNDAMENTALLY.

GET BETTER AT OPERATING.

HOW MANY HOURS DOES IT

TAKE TO
DO A
CERTAIN THING?
CAN WE REDUCE THAT?
I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT.

YOU HAD SOME EXAMPLES,
DON,

ABOUT OFFICE ADMINISTRATOR
OR
ASSISTANTS CROSS-POLLINATING.

TO ME, THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE
ABOUT AN EFFICIENCY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER
EFFICIENCIES.

I THINK IT WOULD

NEED TO COME
FROM YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

I DON'T KNOW THEM.

BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT.

EFFICIENCIES THAT YOU SEE
THAT

CAN SAVE US TIME AND MONEY
AND
THAT'S ONE THAT COMES TO MIND.

WORK FLOW
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ANALYSIS.

GREAT.

THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN ON THAT
ONE?
I THINK WE GOT FIVE.

THE NEXT ONE IS TO AVOID THE
BUILDERS REMEDY.

FIVE UP.

THE NEXT ONE IS A

TOWN HALL
ON GARBAGE TRANSITION.

YES.

AND I WILL JUST, BEFORE YOU

PUT HANDS DOWN, I WANT TO GIVE
AN UPDATE.

THE SCRR IS LOOKING ON DOING
A

TOWN HALL
ALREADY.

OKAY.

SO, THIS WILL BE ONE OF
THOSE

THAT WOULD COME BACK AND SAY
THAT IT'S ALREADY IN THE WORKS.

I'M 100% IN FAVOR OF THAT.

LET'S LET THEM DO IT, NOT
OUR
STAFF.

THEY WILL BE DOING IT AS THE
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NEW --

WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE --
WE'RE
TAKING THIS OFF THE LIST?
WHATEVER WORKS.

GREAT.

WHOOPS.

THE NEXT ONE IS TO SLOW DOWN
MAJOR

DECISIONS AND
REVIEW
COUNCIL POLICY TO THAT EFFECT.

IF IT'S -- I'LL NEED
MORE
CLARIFICATION ON THAT ONE.

BUT I JUST -- WHEN IT'S
3-2.

I MEAN, DECISIONS ARE
DECISIONS.

I DON'T WANT TO KEEP GOING BACK
AND GOING BACK.

HOW DO WE KNOW
IF IT'S A 3-2
UNTIL WE BRING IT TO YOU?

YEAH, BUT THE THOUGHT --
THE

IDEA WAS -- WHAT WAS PROPOSED IS
IF THERE'S A 3-2,
BRING IT BACK.

WE CAN THINK ABOUT IT.

HOW ABOUT IF WE

JUST REMOVE
THE 3-2 AND JUST

LEAVE IT AT
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SLOW DOWN MAJOR DECISIONS?
YEAH.

I'M STILL NOT IN
FAVOR.

NOT?

THERE'S TWO
COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THERE'S THREE UP AND TWO DOWN.

SO, DO WE SLOW DOWN THAT
DECISION NOW?

THE NEXT ONE IS

RESTORING
PUBLIC TRUST.

SURE.

FIVE UP.

NEXT ONE

IS UTILIZATION OF
TECHNOLOGY SUCH AS A.I.

ONE DOWN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

IT'S RESOURCES.

RIGHT
NOW, THERE'S 3-2.

YES, I HAVE THAT.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE CONDUCTING
OF THE I.T. AUDIT.

IT'S ALREADY
DONE.

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ARE WE LIMITING IT?

WE SHOULD KEEP IT AS A

PRIORITY, BUT IT'S ALREADY
BEEN
RECOMMENDED BY THE COUNCIL.

FOUR UP.

THERE'S FOUR UP ON THAT.

WELL, THE -- JUST TO BE CLEAR
ON THIS.

THE I.T. AUDIT IS

YOU ACTUALLY

GO OUT TO SEE WHAT THE COSTS AND

ALL THAT'S GOING
TO BE.

MAYBE, WHO KNOWS,

AND THEN WE

MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT PLAN OF

ACTION AT THAT
POINT.

THERE'S DEFINITELY FOUR UP
ON
THAT.

SINCE WE ALREADY APPROVED IT,

SHOULDN'T WE TAKE IT OFF THE
LIST?

WE'VE ALSO APPROVED,
LIKE,

THE CLASS AND COMP STUDY,
THE
STAFFING ASSESSMENT.

I THINK IT'S A GOAL THAT SHOULD

BE ON THERE BECAUSE IT IS --

WE'VE APPROVED SOME OF THESE
OTHER

THINGS AS WELL BUT I THINK
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IT SHOULD STAY ON THERE.

CREATION OF A PUBLIC
COMMUNICATIONS PLAN.

YES.

FIVE.

I THINK -- CAN I JUST -- I

THINK YOUR GOAL IS TO

IMPROVE
PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WANT A
PLAN, PER SE.

THAT'S POSSIBLE.

FIVE UP.

I IMPROVE.

THAT'S A "SATURDAY NIGHT
LIVE" JOKE, BY THE WAY.
5-0?
YES.

NEXT

ONE, REVIEW OF SHARED
SERVICES.

YES.

FIVE.

FIVE UP.

WHAT WAS IT?
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YOU COULD LOOK AT OTHER

CITIES, LIKE IF THEY HAVE
A

PART-TIME PERSON AND WE MAY
HAVE

A PART-TIME OPENING, LIKE
THAT

PERSON WOULD THEN WORK FULL-TIME

BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE WORKING

HALF-TIME OVER THERE, HALF-TIME

OVER HERE, SO IT'S A WAY
OF

UTILIZING STAFF IN OTHER
JURISDICTIONS.

THERE'S FIVE
ON THAT ONE.

THE

CROSS-TRAINING WHICH IS

ALREADY BEING IMPLEMENTED
AND
THIS WILL GO TO 11 AS WELL.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO COMBINE
THEM.

THE CROSS-TRAINING IS BEING DONE

RIGHT NOW BY THE

REVISION OF THE

JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND THAT

WAS PART
OF THE STAFFING ASSESSMENT.

BOTH OF THOSE GO HAND IN HAND
TOGETHER.

THERE'S FIVE.

FIVE UP.

THAT'S IT.

YES.

YAY!
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WELL, NOT QUITE.

I WANT TO MENTION ONE OTHER
THING.

WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 6:00,
BUT DON, QUICKLY.

THERE'S TWO ITEMS THAT ARE

NOT ON HERE THAT ARE

MANDATORY,

ALTHOUGH ONE OF THEM KIND
OF

GETS AT IT, THAT WE'LL HAVE TO
FACTOR IN.

ONE IS THE HOUSING ELEMENT,

WHICH I THINK IS PARTLY ABOUT
THE BUILDERS REMEDY.

BUT THERE'S QUITE A -- THERE'S

CONSIDERABLE MATERIALS IN
YOUR

PACKET ON WHERE WE ARE WITH
THAT, ET CETERA.

BUT THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT
EFFORT.
25 TO 30% OF ONE SON'S TIME.

THE OTHER IS THE HAZARD

MITIGATION PLAN, WHICH IS A

STATE MANDATE TO COMPLETE BY THE
END OF NEXT YEAR.

SO, IT WILL PROBABLY AFFECT
THE

PLANNING PERIOD THAT WE'RE

TALKING ABOUT.

WE'LL FACTOR THAT INTO WHAT
WE
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BRING BACK TO YOU, BUT FOR
STATE

MANDATES, WHETHER YOU'RE ON THE

LIST OR

NOT, I THINK WE HAVE TO
AT LEAST CALL THEM OUT.

YES.

SOUNDS GOOD.

OKAY, WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL
6:00.

NO.

WE SAID WE WOULD DO

ANOTHER
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NO.

WE DID ALREADY.

WE
DID --

WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO
TWO.

YOU SAID YOU WOULD CONSIDER
ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE
SURE

WE'RE DOING WHAT WE SAID
WE
WOULD DO.

ARE WE?
SHOULD WE?

YOU DID IT IN BETWEEN THE

GOALS AND THE --
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I KNOW, BEWE WE SAID WE WOULD DO
TWO.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT.

IT WAS JUST AN OPTION THAT
WE

PUT OUT

THERE THAT IF YOU WANTED

TO DO ONE AFTER YOU DISCUSSED
AND PRIORITIES AND STRATEGIES.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE DON'T WANT
TO.

WHERE'S EVERYONE AT?

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER
ONE IN HALF AN HOUR, RIGHT?

SO, ANYWAY, I THINK
WE'RE
GOOD WITH NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

IS THAT RIGHT, COUNCIL?

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO

ANOTHER

ONE WITH,
YEAH, PEOPLE CAN TALK.

YEAH.

SO, WE'RE GOOD?

I'VE GOT
IT.

GOOD, GOOD.

ONE MORE QUESTION, IF I CAN.

SURE.

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SO,
NORMALLY, WE TAKE A 3-2

VOTE AS SOMETHING TO
MOVE
FORWARD WITH, WITH THE COUNCIL.

WE HAVE 3-2 VOTES.

WE HAVE 4-1 VOTES, 5-0 VOTES.

ARE WE TO TAKE ANY MEANING FROM

THE DISTINCTIONS THERE ABOUT HOW
WE PRIORITIZE THIS?
NO.
3-2 IS THE MAJORITY.

SO THAT'S THE
DIRECTION.

WE'LL TREAT THEM

ALL EQUALLY
REGARDLESS.

THANK YOU.

I THINK IT WOULD BE
REALLY

HELPFUL TO KNOW HOW THE VOTE
WENT.

WE DIDN'T TAKE OFFICIAL
VOTES.

INSTEAD

OF HIGHLIGHTING

PRIORITY --

I THINK DON'S QUESTION
WAS,

IS THERE ANY DISTINCTION

BETWEEN
3-2 VERSUS 4-1?

I FEEL LIKE THERE'S
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DISTINCTION.

I DO
TOO.

IT'S A
RANKING SYSTEM.

I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE AGREED
UPON.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I AGREED
UPON.

WE SAID PRIORITIES.

WAIT A MINUTE.

IN THE ORDER THE
-0s WERE
COMING FIRST.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
I'M NOT -- WAIT.

I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHAT -- SORRY.

I'M
NOT CLEAR.

I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE
SAYING HERE.

WE WANT TO REFLECT YOUR
PRIORITIES AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

TYPICALLY,
WHEN THERE'S A 3-2

VOTE, WE PROCEED WITH
THE
DIRECTION.

TODAY, WE SPENT CONSIDERABLE
TIME, AND WE HAVE DISTINCTIONS.

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WE HAVE 3-2
VOTES, 4-1 VOTES,
5-0 VOTES.

ARE WE TO PRIORITIZEPRIORITIZE 5-0

4-1 OVER 3-2?
YES, YES.

SURE.

YES.

LET'S DO THAT.

THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

IT'S A LITTLE MESSY.

SO DO WE.

ALL RIGHT, GREAT.

NOW WE ARE ADJOURNED TO 6:00.
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