Sebastopol City Council
April 15, 2025

CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
MINUTES FOR SPECIAL MEETING OF APRIL 1, 2025

GOALS AND PRIORITIES WORKSHOP
As Approved by the City Council at their regular meeting of April 15, 2025 Please note that minutes of meetings are not meant to be verbatim minutes and are meant to be the City’s record of a summary of actions that took place at the meeting. The vote/action is the required information of the meeting actions that took place. Approved minutes are available on the City Council Meetings page.

CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Zollman called the meeting to order at 1:05 pm ROLL CALL:

Present: Mayor Stephen Zollman
Vice Mayor McLewis
Councilmember Phill Carter
Councilmember Neysa Hinton
Councilmember Sandra Maurer

Absent: None
Staff: City Manager Don Schwartz
Assistant City Manager/City Clerk Mary Gourley
City Attorney Alex Mog
Administrative Services Director Kwong
Building Official Steve Brown
City Engineer/Public Works Director Mark Rincon Ibarra
Community Development Director Emi Theriault
Police Chief Sean McDonagh
SALUTE TO THE FLAG : Mayor Zollman led the salute to the flag.

REMOTE PARTICIPATION UNDER AB 2449 (IF NEEDED): To consider and take action on any request from a Council Member to participate in a meeting remotely due to Just Cause or Emergency Circumstances pursuant to AB 2449 (Government Code Section 549539(f)). Assembly Bill 2302 (2024) (“AB 2302”) revises rules for when members of local legislative bodies may participate in meetings remotely. Specifically, it amends the number of meetings that may be attended remotely for just cause and under emergency circumstances and clarifies the definition of the term “meeting,” for purposes of remote attendance. AB 2302 caps the number of remote meetings a member can attend each year based on the frequency of a legislative body’s meetings: Five meetings per year for those meeting twice a month. None Required. All Councilmembers were in attendance.

DISCUSSION AND ACTION:

1. CITY COUNCIL GOAL SETTING WORKSHOP:

The City Council will conduct a goal setting workshop, facilitated by Steve Mermell, bakertllly. The purpose of the workshop is to build alignment around the City Council’s Goals and Priorities for the upcoming fiscal year or year(s).

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City staff presented the process for the workshop.

A presentation was conducted by Steve Mermell, Consultant.

The following member(s) of the public provided public comment during the first public comment period:

Gene Nelson
Jessica Hall
Katie
Marcus
Sidnee
Fred
Paul
Sarah
Oliver
Gary
Kate
Lisa
Steve
Judith
The Council discussed priorities and provided recommendations to staff.

The following member(s) of the public provided public comment during the second public comment period:

Kenna
Oliver
Judith
Robert
Kate
Mary
City staff provided a matrix of the final goals/priorities/strategies (attached).

ADJOURNMENT OF CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
Mayor Zollman adjourned the April 1, 2025 City Council Special Meeting at 5:50 pm to the next Regular City Council Meeting of Tuesday, April 1, at 6:00 pm, Sebastopol Youth Annex, 425 Morris Street, Sebastopol, CA.

Respectfully submitted,
Mary C. Gourley
Assistant City Manager/City Clerk
Attachment:

Matrix
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GOAL COMMUNITY VITALITY
Enhance Sebastopol as a great place to live that values community health and well-being. Preserve Sebastopol’s unique character.

Strategies/Priorities
Carter Hinton Maurer McLewis Zollman
1 Restore or repair labyrinth teen memorial ($5000) X X X X X 2 Support community events with city sponsorship and
reduction of fees

X X X X X
3 Dark sky lighting X - X - X
4 Pomo and public art and updating city web site/land
acknowledgement

X X X X X
5 Drought tolerant landscaping of police and public works X - X - X 6 Affordable Housing through ADUs X X X - X
7 Tiny Homes X X X - X
8 Flower Baskets on Main Street - X X X X
9 City Ambassadors X - - X X
10 Clean up of Graffiti X X X X X
11 Festive Activities/Holiday Events X X X X X
12 Grant Writer X X X X X

GOAL PUBLIC SAFETY
Strengthen the public’s safety and improve the quality of life.

Includes supporting our first responders (police, fire, public works), responding to emergencies, protecting people, property, and businesses, and engaging in emergency preparedness community outreach, public education and prevention activities.

Strategies/Priorities
Carter Hinton Maurer McLewis Zollman
1 Explore Ways to Address Homelessness X X X X X
2 Volunteer Program Reinstituted/Increased community volunteers for downtown

X - X X X
3 Emergency Preparedness/Management X X X X X
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9 Community Emergency Response Team – County free
offerings

X X X X X
4 Pursue no additional costs and or low cost solutions to homelessness

X X X X X
5 Coalition of Housing/Keep County or review nonprofit/change lead agenciesX X X X X 6 Keeping drugs out of town /drug enforcement/needle
exchange

X X X X X
7 Working in partnership with schools, libraries, other agencies etc - - - X X 8 Public Transparency of state required mandates for policing X - - X X 9 Revisit Infrastructure for back up of City emergency systems X X X X X

GOAL INFRASTRUCTURE
Maintaining High Quality Infrastructure, Facilities and Services includes repairing/replacing outdated city facilities, improving streets, stormwater and wastewater infrastructure
Strategies/Priorities
Carter Hinton Maurer McLewis Zollman
1 Trail Projects/ Desk top study for Apple Blossom Trail X - X - X 2 Caltrans grant – Sustainable transportation X X X X X 3 Parking Issues/downtown X - - - -
4 Potholes/Street Resurfacing X X X X X
5 Wastewater Pipes/Infrastructure/Sewer master plan X X X X X 6 Storm Drain Plan – Removal of silt X X X X X
7 CUSP Grant Application for Phase I of Naturalization of Calder Creek and Ives Park

X X X X X
8 Implementation of Rotary Centennial Plan (with revisioning of ives park) Council review first

X X X X X
9 Well 4 (updates/funding) X X X X X
10 Review of Downtown Cell Tower/Need/Safety/Anything to be done about it
- - X - -
11 Review of City Buildings/Expansion of Senior center/Library/City Hall/Community Center

X X X - X
12 SCTCA Funding Plan Cycle/Bodega Ave Bike Lanes
SCTCA Funding Plan Cycle 2

X X X X X
13 EIFD X X X X X
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14 ADA walk way in Ives Park X X X X X
15 Removal and/or replace of Chain Link Fence at Ives Park X - X X X 16 Preserve and Clean Up of Laguna Wetlands Open Bathroom during daytime hours (near ball field/little league)
- - X - X
17 Pickleball courts - - X X -
18 Add Items to List from Staff:

Water / Sewer Master Plan
City buildings

X X X X X

GOAL HIGH PERFORMANCE ORGANIZATION
Strategies/Priorities
Carter Hinton Maurer McLewis Zollman
1 Achieving staffing/ Program targets that match best
standards and efficiency/operational staffing
efficiencies/baseline budgets/performance management

X X X X X
2 Avoid builder remedy X X X X X
3 Slow down major decisions X X X - -
4 Restoring public trust X X X X X
5 Utilizing technology (AI) X - - X X
6 IT Audit (approved during earlier Council Meeting) X X X X X 7 Improve Public Communications X X X X X
8 Shared Services X X X X X
9 Cross Training of Administrative Staff/Actions from Class and Comp Study and Staffing Assessment

X X X X X

GOAL LONG TERM FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY
Achieving Greater Fiscal Resilience and Long Term Fiscal Sustainability
Strategies/Priorities
Carter Hinton Maurer McLewis Zollman
1 Balanced Budget X X X X X
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2 Quarterly Financial report/annual long term budget
reductions

X X X X X
3 Measure U Priority Resolution reviewed during Budget
Process

X X X X X
4 Enterprise Oversight Committee; weave into budget committee process – biannual review of enterprise funds

X - X X X
5 Publish Reports on Budget Illustrating Budget (Budget at a Glance)

X X X X X
6 Diversify City Revenue base X X X X X
7 Update Financial Policies/Ensure meets CIRA X X X X X 8 Increasing Revenue Base X X X X X
9 Update of Impact Fees and More Information X X X X X
10 Grants from Regional Bodies X X X X X
11 Review of Zoning Codes for streamlining of permitting X X X X X

GOAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
Strategies/Priorities
Carter Hinton Maurer McLewis Zollman
1 Growing Businesses Together X X X X X
2 Attract and support market rate housing X - X X X
3 Support chamber in advertising the City (branding) X - - - - 4 Presentation from new CDD on economic
development/plans/strategy/ responsibility of who (what department) is keeping track of businesses?/ How we are working as part of economic development /working with
broker who are working with people who are seeking
spaces/how develop relationships

X X X X X
5 Clarification on Sebastopol downtown business association merging with chamber of commerce

X - - X X
6 Audit of are we getting business licensing fees/what is city hall doing to keep eye on city getting its fees?

X X - X X
7 Formula Business Review of Ordinance X - - X X
8 Business surveys X - - X X
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City Council Goals Meeting - April 1, 2025

AND WE'RE GOING TO JUST
DIVE

RIGHT INTO THE DISCUSSION AND
ACTION ITEM, WHICH IS NUMBER 1,

WHICH IS OUR CITY COUNCIL
GOAL
SETTING.

JUST A FEW PRELIMINARY

RESPONSES

OR WORDS FROM ME BEFORE WE DIVE
IN.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME IN

COMING,
AND WE'RE THRILLED.

WE'RE THRILLED BY THE NUMBER
OF

PEOPLE THAT

ARE BOTH HERE
IN-PERSON AND ON VIDEO.

THIS IS ALL ABOUT YOU, AND
WHAT

IT IS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US
TO
WORK ON IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.

AS I

SAID, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME
IN COMING.

MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS, INCLUDING

MYSELF, HAVE BEEN

ANXIOUSLY

LOOKING TO HAVE THIS GET

STARTED, AND AGAIN, THIS IS

ABOUT OUR GOALSETTING

WORKSHOP,

AND THIS IS A BRIEF

STATEMENT,
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BUT TODAY, WE WILL COLLABORATE,

COUNCIL, STAFF, COMMUNITY,
TO

CREATE SHARED GOALS
AND

PRIORITIES FOR THE COMING,
IT'S

EITHER GOING TO BE A YEAR OR TWO
YEARS.

THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.

THESE GOALS AND

PRIORITIES WILL

BE DETERMINED DURING THIS

SESSION, AND THEY WILL SERVE
AS

A CRITICAL STEP IN OUR

ONGOING

EFFORTS TO WORK TOGETHER
TO

CREATE A VIBRANT, INCLUSIVE, AND
SUSTAINABLE CITY.

TODAY'S SESSION IS DESIGNED TO

BRING TOGETHER THE COUNCIL,

STAFF, AND OUR COMMUNITY TO

DISCUSS AND SHAPE THE

IMMEDIATE
FUTURE OF OUR CITY.

THE GOAL IS TO IDENTIFY, PERHAPS

BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX KEY

OBJECTIVES, GOALS AND PRIORITIES

THAT REFLECT THE SHARED GOALS

AND PRIORITIES OF BOTH
THE
COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS.

THESE PRIORITIES WILL GUIDE
OUR

EFFORTS OVER THE NEXT,
AGAIN,

ONE TO TWO YEARS, ENSURING
THAT

WE STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT TRULY
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MATTERS.

ONCE WE'VE REACHED CONSENSUS
ON

THESE GOALS AND

PRIORITIES, AT

THE END OF THE WORKSHOP, THE

COUNCIL WILL TAKE THE GOALS AND

PRIORITIES AND DIRECT STAFF TO
DEVELOP A DETAILED ACTION PLAN.

THIS PLAN WILL OUTLINE
THE

POTENTIAL COSTS AND,
IF

FEASIBLE, HOW WE WILL
BRING

THESE PRIORITIES TO LIFE AND

ENSURE THAT WE TAKE

CONCRETE

STEPS TOWARDS ACHIEVING THEM
REALISTICALLY.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART
TO
REMEMBER.

WHILE MANY DAY-TODAY OPERATIONS

SUCH AS BUDGET,

PREPARATIONS,

PATROLLING

STREETS, CONDUCTING

ELECTIONS, AND PROVIDING

ESSENTIAL SERVICES LIKE
WATER

AND SEWER, ARE VITAL TO
THE

FUNCTIONING OF OUR

CITY, THEY

ARE BUT JUST A PART OF
THE

REGULAR OPERATIONS OF OUR
VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.

I'M HOPING THAT TODAY'S
OR

THROUGH TODAY'S DISCUSSION,

WE'LL FOCUS ON THE

PRIORITIES
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BEYOND THE DAY-TODAY

OPERATIONS, ADDRESSING A

BROADER
VISION AND GOALS FOR THE CITY.

AGAIN, YOUR PARTICIPATION IS

INVALUABLE, AND TOGETHER, WE

WILL LAY OUT THE GOALS
AND

PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY THAT,

THROUGH GOOD

STEWARDSHIP, WILL

CONTINUE TO GROW, THRIVE, AND

SERVE THE NEEDS

OF EVERYONE WHO
CALLS IT HOME.

AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
BEING HERE.

MY HEART IS OVERWHELMED BY
THE

NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE, AND
ON
SCREEN.

WITH THAT, WE WILL THEN --
I'M

GOING TO DEFER THIS OVER TO

MARY, WHO IS THEN GOING TO WORK
US THROUGH THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'M GOING TO --

ACTUALLY, I

DON'T HAVE THE -- LET ME PULL EP

UP THE AGENDA REALLY QUICK, MY
APOLOGIES.

THE NEXT ITEM ON HERE IS
THE
FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

I DO WANT TO SAY THERE IS
TWO
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PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THERE'S THE INITIAL
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

THEN, THE COUNCIL WILL
GO

THROUGH THE GOALS, DISCUSS

PRIORITIES, THEN COME TO
THE
SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

SO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT IS
TWO
MINUTES.

WE ROTATE BETWEEN IN-CHAMBERS
FIRST AND THEN GO OUT TO ZOOM.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A

GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON
THE

GOALS SESSION

ONLY, PLEASE LET
ME KNOW.

YOU CAN RAISE
YOUR HAND.

AND THEN I'LL GO TO ZOOM
AND
COME BACK TO CHAMBER.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT
WOULD

LIKE TO MAKE A GENERAL --
PLEASE.

MY NAME IS GENE NELSON.

I'M A RESIDENT OF

SEPASTOPOL AND

I'M HERE OF BEHALF OF THE ROTARY
CLUB OF SEBASTOPOL.

WE WOULD LIKE TO DO A

SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY PROJECT
IN

HONOR OF OUR
HUNDREDTH YEAR.

COUNCIL CARTER SUGGESTED WE
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COME
AND SHARE WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND.

TWO MINUTES IS TOUGH FOR
AN
EX-PREACHER, BUT AWAY WE GO.

WE WOULD LIKE TO DO A PROJECT IN
IVES

PARK, WHICH WOULD HAVE
THREE ASPECTS TO IT.

THE FIRST WOULD BE THE
WEST

ENTRY OFF JEWEL AVENUE,
WHICH

RIGHT NOW IS RATHER

UNSIGHTLY
WITH GARBAGE CANS AND THINGS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SPRUCE THAT

AREA UP,

DO SOME LANDSCAPING,

FENCING, MAKE IT MORE

ACCESSIBLE, PUT UP SOME SIGNAGE

SO IT WOULD BE A MORE

WELCOMING
ENTRANCE INTO THE PARK.

SECONDLY, INSIDE THAT COMMON

AREA, JUST WHEN YOU GET
THERE,

WE'D LIKE TO TURN THAT INTO A

WELCOMING PLAZA WITH BENCHES
AND

TABLES, A PLACE TO GATHER,
AND

REALLY MAKE IT A

ROTARY SEN
CENTENNIAL PLAZA.

YOU COULD MOVE THE STAGE IN
THE
BACK.

BUT JUST A GENERAL AREA WHERE
THE PUBLIC COULD GATHER.

THE THIRD PART OF THIS WOULD BE
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POLLY FIELD ITSELF.

WE WANT TO

REDO A BRAND-NEW

CONCESSION STAND WITH STORAGE,
WITH ACCESSIBLE RESTROOMS.

AGAIN, PERMANENT SEATING
SO

PEOPLE COULD COME AND NOT
ONLY

FOR THE GAME BUT COULD ALSO USE
THAT.

MR. NELSON, YOU HAVE ABOUT 25
SECONDS.

THAT'S THE PROJECT.

WE HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH
THE
LITTLE LEAGUE, VERY SUPPORTIVE.

WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH FRIENDS
OF IVES PARK.

WE'VE TALKED TO THE CITY --

WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE

CITY PLANNER AS WELL,

AND WITH

THE OAK RIDGE FIRE DEPARTMENT --
NOT OAK RIDGE.

SO, WE'VE TALKED AND HAD
MEETINGS.

THE LITTLE LEAGUE IS ON BOARD.

IN FACT, THEY -- I THINK
THEY

OPEN THIS WEEK AND ARE GOING
TO

BEGIN TO HELP US WITH SOME
FUND-RAISING.

WE WANTED YOU TO KNOW THIS WHILE
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YOU'RE PLANNING, THIS IS

SOMETHING THE ROTARY CLUB WOULD

LIKE TO DO IN THE COMING
YEAR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

JESSICA, CAN YOU UP NMUTE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?
HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
CAN YOU HEAR US?

YES, I CAN.

I CAN BARELY HEAR YOU

OF I'LL
TRY TO BE LOUD.

IS THAT BETTER?
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
HELLO?

JESSICA, CAN YOU HEAR
US
OKAY?

YEAH, I CAN
HEAR YOU.

HOLD ON JUST FOR
A SECOND.

LESLIE, WE'RE NOT GETTING SOUND.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?

YEAH, I'M GOING TO --

JESSICA, IF YOU COULD HOLD
ON

FOR A SECOND, I'M GOING TO MUTE
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YOU AND GO TO ANOTHER
PUBLIC

SPEAKER AND THEN COME BACK
TO

YOU TO SEE IF IT ISN'T AN
ISSUE

WITH THE
SPEAKER.

OKAY.

MARCUS, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?
HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
NO.

WE'RE -- OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO

TAKE JUST A
SECOND TO ADDRESS AN I.T. ISSUE
FOR SOUND THROUGH ZOOM.

IF YOU COULD JUST BE

PATIENT, WE

WILL BE BACK WITH YOU IN JUST A
SECOND.

JESSICA, I'M GOING TO COME
BACK TO YOU.

CAN YOU JUST DO A SOUND CHECK?
SURE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?

YES, WE
CAN.

GOOD.

GREAT.

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CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER,
JESSICA?
YES, I
CAN.

THANK
YOU.

GREAT.

GO AHEAD WITH YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

MY NAME IS JESSICA HALL.

I'M WITH THE CALIFORNIA
URBAN
STREAMS PARTNERSHIP.

WE'RE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION

THAT HAS WORKED IN

SEBASTOPOL

AND HAS SOME

SEBASTOPOL

RESIDENTS LOOKING AT
CALDER

CREEK AS WELL AS ON A HIGH

LEVEL, VISION LEVEL THROUGH

DOWNTOWN, AND I'M
JUST

CALLING -- SORRY,

PARTICIPATING

TODAY JUST TO ASK YOU TO THINK

ABOUT CALDER CREEK AND
ITS

RESTORATION AS A PRIORITY FOR

THE PARK AS WELL AS FOR THE

CITY, AND YOU KNOW, JUST
TO

EXPRESS THAT WE HAVE
BEEN

MEETING WITH COMMUNITY

GROUPS,

INCLUDING FRIENDS OF IVES
PARK

TO TALK ABOUT THE REACH OF
THE

CREEK THAT WOULD BE GENERALLY
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WELL RECEIVED TO RESTORE AT THIS
TIME.

WHILE WE'VE ALSO DONE
WORK

PREVIOUSLY TO LOOK AT THE
REACH

AS A WHOLE OF THE

CREEK THROUGH
THE PARK.

WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE

COUNCIL'S INTEREST IN SEEING
US

MOVE FORWARD WITH RESTORING
THE

PARTS OF THE PARK THAT WE ALL
HAVE AGREEMENT ON.

AND I ALSO JUST WANT TO ADD
THAT

ROTARY DID REACH OUT TO ME AS

WELL, AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD

TO HAVING A

MEETING WITH THEM

ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO
DO.

THAT'S IT FOR ME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JESSICA, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
COMMENT?

I'M GOING TO GO IN THE
BACK
FIRST.

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KATIE?
OKAY.

THANKS, MARY.

GOOD AFTERNOON,

COUNCIL MEMBERS
AND CITY STAFF.

MY NAME IS KATIE DAVIS, AND
I

SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR

OF THE SEBASTOPOL AREA SENIOR
CENTER.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR
THE

OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US TO
SPEAK TODAY.

EASY MEMBERS OF THE

COMMUNITY,

I'M CONFIDENT THAT YOU'RE
AWARE

OF THE ROLE THAT OUR
SENIOR

CENTER PLAYS IN THE HEALTH
OF
OUR COMMUNITY.

JUST LAST YEAR, WE RECORDED OVER
26,000 SIGN-INS FROM OVER
2,200
SENIORS.

THAT'S FOR MEALS, SERVICES,

ACTIVITIES,
RIDES.

IN REALITY, WE HAVE DEMAND FROM
PROBABLY DOUBLE THAT NUMBER.

AT PRESENT, IN AN EFFORT
TO

ACCOMMODATE THAT DEMAND, WE'VE

COLLABORATED WITH
LOCAL

ORGANIZATIONS FOR ADDITIONAL

SPACE, BUSHMAN HALL,
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SEBASTOPOL

CENTER FOR THE

ARTS AND THE
COMMUNITY CENTER.

BUT IN SPITE OF THESE

EFFORTS,

OUR SPACE LIMITATIONS
ARE

INCREASINGLY -- ARE
AN

INCREASING CHALLENGE AND
A

SOURCE OF FRUSTRATION FOR
MANY

OF OUR UNDERSERVED AND

GROWING
SENIOR COMMUNITY.

SENIORS ARE BEING TURNED AWAY OR

WAIT-LISTED FOR

PROGRAMS THAT
ARE VITAL TO THEIR WELL-BEING.

IT'S NOT LOST ON ME OR OUR BOARD

OF DIRECTORS THAT WE'RE

INCREDIBLY FORTUNATE TO
BE

HOUSED IN A VALUABLE CITY-OWNED
PROPERTY.

MY APPEAL TO YOU TODAY IS
TO

KINDLY ASK THE COUNCIL
TO

CONSIDER AN APPRAISAL OF OUR
PROPERTY AT 167 NORTH
HIGH

STREET AS PART OF OUR

EXISTING,

BROADER CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT

MEETING THE NEEDS OF
THE

SEBASTOPOL -- SEBASTOPOL SENIOR
POPULATION.

I APPEAL TO YOU TO CONSIDER THE
FOLLOWING.

COULD THE EXISTING PROPERTY
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BE

LEVERAGED TO SUPPORT A
SPACE

THAT BETTER SERVES OUR
SENIORS?
YOU HAVE ABOUT 20
SECONDS.

THANKS.

COULD SUCH A PROPERTY

BENEFIT

OTHER NONPROFITS, WHICH ALSO
ARE
IN NEED OF IMPROVED FACILITIES?

COULD A PURPOSE-BUILT OR
SHARED

NONPROFIT CAMPUS EXPAND

ACCESS,

ENHANCE SERVICE DELIVERY AND
MAXIMIZE COMMUNITY IMPACT?

AND THEN FINALLY, WOULD SUCH
A

FACILITY REDUCE EXISTING

OVERHEAD FOR THE CITY AND/OR
NONPROFITS SUCH AS OURSELVES?

FOR THE WELFARE OF SEBASTOPOL'S

POPULATION, IT'S IMPERATIVE
THAT

WE, AS A CENTER, AND THE
CITY

LEADERSHIP, WORK

COLLABORATIVELY

TOGETHER TO RESOLVE THESE
ISSUES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT, KATIE.NEXT,

I WILL GO BACK OUT
TO
ZOOM.

MARCUS, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
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PLEASE?

HELLO.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES, I
CAN.

GO AHEAD.

MY NAME IS MARCUS.

I'M A RESIDENT OF
SEBASTOPOL.

AND WHAT I WANT TO COMMENT
ON IS

THE NEED FOR HOUSING IN THIS

COMMUNITY, AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO
MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO, WE NEED TO REALLY

PRIORITIZE

CATCHING UP ON OUR HOUSING
OR

WE'LL FACE REALLY SERIOUS

CONSEQUENCES LIKE

THE BUILDERS

REMEDY AND LOSING CONTROL --

LOSING LOCAL CONTROL OF WHAT

WE BUILT

HERE AND I THINK
IT'S

REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE
KEEP

THAT OR ELSE, YOU KNOW,

STUFF'S

GOING TO GET BUILT THAT WE DON'T
WANT.

I ALSO REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED

TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION

AROUND CONSOLIDATING THE
DESIGN

REVIEW BOARD AND THE PLANNING

COMMISSION, BECAUSE THAT'S
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A

STEP THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT'S,

LIKE, BACKED BY SCIENCE THAT

WILL SPEED UP

THE APPROVAL IN
CONSTRUCTION OF HOUSING.

IT'S A REALLY SIMPLE STEP
THAT

WE CAN TAKE TO MAKE THINGS

BETTER FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED
HOUSING.

AND I THINK IT'S ALSO REALLY

IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT THE

PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES BY
THE

PLANNING COMMISSIONER

BECAUSE I

THINK WITH OUR CURRENT, LIKE,

ZONING MAP, WE'RE NOT GOING
TO

GET THAT MUCH MORE HOUSING IN

SEBASTOPOL, AND WE DESPERATELY
NEED IT.

SOME

DAY I WANT TO BE ABLE TO

BUY A HOUSE HERE

ANDAND I DON'T

THAT'S EVER GOING TO

HAPPEN UNLESS WE MOVE THE
NEEDLE
ON

HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IN THIS
COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU,
MARCUS.

NEXT, I WILL COME BACK INTO THE
CHAMBERS.

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HI.

HELLO.

HI.

MY NAME IS SYDNEY COX AND I
LOVE
IN WINDSOR.

I ALSO HAPPEN TO BE CODIRECTOR

OF THE EMF SAFETY

NETWORK, WHICH
IS A 501(C)(3) NONPROFIT
THAT

RELIES ON SCIENCE-BASED SOURCES

TO UNDERSTAND

ELECTROMAGNETIC

FREQUENCIES AND HOW THEY AFFECT
BIOLOGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

WE'RE NOT CONSPIRACY THEORISTS.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO

UNDERSTAND
THIS PERVASIVE TECHNOLOGY.

OUR GROUP HAS A LARGE

OUTREACH,

HUNDREDS IN SEBASTOPOL ALONE,
BUT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ME.

I
LOVE SEBASTOPOL.

I USED TO LIVE HERE, FIRST
ON
MILL

STATION AND THEN AT THE END
OF ATKINSON ROAD.

THAT WAS SOME DECADES AGO.

BUT I HAVE GOOD FRIENDS HERE.

WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO

SEBASTOPOL, I THOUGHT I
HAD
FOUND THE GARDEN OF EDEN.

THE FRESH, CLEAN AIR,
THE

MORNING COASTAL MISTS, THE

PEOPLE, THE REDWOOD TREES,
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THE

LOVELY HILLY NEIGHBORHOODS
AND
ESPECIALLY THE VIBRANT DOWNTOWN.

RECENTLY, MY HUSBAND AND I BEGAN

LOOKING TO MOVE OUT OF WINDSOR

AND THE FIRST PLACE WE

THOUGHT
OF

WAS SEBASTOPOL FOR ALL THE
REASONS I JUST MENTIONED.

BUT THE BIGGEST DRAWBACK FOR ME

IS THE UGLY, IMPOSING CELL
TOWER
RIGHT IN THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN.

I KNOW NO ONE HERE

HAD ANYTHING

TO DO WITH PUTTING IT THERE,
BUT
THERE IT IS.

IT'S ALSO ON CITY PROPERTY,
SO

THE CITY MUST BE GETTING SOME
REVENUE.

BUT I'M ALSO ONE OF THOSE
PEOPLE

WHO FEEL CRAPPY AROUND CELL

TOWERS OR NEAR WIRELESS
FACILITIES.

I GET A STRANGE HEADACHE,
A

BURNING IN MY FOREHEAD BEHIND MY
EYES.

IF I'M BEHIND THAT SOURCE
FOR

MORE THAN HALF AN HOUR, I GET
A

METALLIC TASTE
IN MY MOUTH.

I KNOW IT'S WEIRD BUT THAT'S THE
WAY I AM.

AS LONG AS I GET AWAY FROM
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IT,

THE HEADACHE IS GONE BUT
IT

TAKES A WHILE FOR THE

METALLIC
TASTE TO GO AWAY.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 25
SECONDS.

I'M UNUSUALLY TIRED.

STRANGE REACTIONS ASIDE, THE

CELL TOWER IS PRETTY UGLY, AN

IMPOSING THING, AND IT'S
ONLY
GETTING BIGGER.

I DON'T KNOW, ARE
PEOPLE
BOTHERED BY IT?

HOW ABOUT RESIDENTS OR
LOCAL

BUSINESSES THAT SEE IT EVERY DAY
OR LIVE NEARBY?
CAN SOMETHING BE DONE ABOUT IT?
THESE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW IT'S A FIVE-YEAR

RENEWAL
SO IT'S A WAYS OFF.

TIME TO PLAN.

I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT TO

CONSIDER, AND THIS IS

A LOVELY

CITY, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME.

THANK YOU, SYDNEY, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL DO TO ZOOM.

OLIVER, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
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PLEASE?

OLIVER, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
I WILL COME BACK TO OLIVER.

FRED, CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
SURE.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES, I CAN.

GREAT.

GO
AHEAD, PLEASE.

HI, GOOD AFTERNOON,
EVERYBODY.

I WANT TO TAKE A SECOND

TO THANK

YOU ALL FOR YOUR DEVOTION TO THE

CITY OF SEBASTOPOL AND THE
WORK

AND TIME

YOU'RE PUTTING INTO THE
CITY.

I'M HERE BRIEFLY.

I'VE SUBMITTED A WRITTEN

COMMENT, STATEMENT, THAT I
WOULD

LIKE TO HAVE ENTERED INTO
THE
RECORD.

IN A

NUTSHELL, WE'RE GIVING YOU

A PREVIEW -- WE, BEING
THE AD

HOC LIBRARY BUILDING
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COMMITTEE,

OF A CONCEPT WE'VE RETURNED TO

AND WANT TO REALLY

PURSUE, WHICH

IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA

AROUND IVES PARK, INCLUDING
THE

PARKING LOT ACROSS FROM THE ART

CENTER, AND DEVELOPING A

CONCEPT

OF THAT AS BEING A PUBLIC
OR

CIVIC COMMENTS
AREA.

THE LIBRARY -- OR, A

BUILDING

THAT WILL HOUSE THE LIBRARY
IS

WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON
FOR

THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS,
AND

WE'RE FEELING MORE ANDAND MORE

FOCUSING ON THE CONCEPT OF
A

COMMONS IS MORE EFFECTIVE --

WOULD BE A MORE EFFECTIVE USE OF

THE CITY'S TIME AND ENERGY
AND

THEN TO

PROVIDE SPACE FOR THE
LIBRARY IN THAT BUILDING.

WE'LL BE PROVIDING A

DETAILED

DESCRIPTION OF WHAT OUR

THOUGHTS

ARE WHEN WE SUBMIT OUR REPORT
TO

YOU, AND IN THE MEANTIME,
IF

THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANY

OF YOU MIGHT HAVE, PLEASE
DON'T

HESITATE TO EMAIL ME
AT MY
LIBRARY ADDRESS OR THROUGH MARY.

THANKS A LOT FOR YOUR TIME.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL COME INTO CHAMBERS.

PAUL?
MY NAME IS PAUL.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE EMF

SAFETY NETWORK TO URGE YOU
TO

CONSIDER LOOKING AT THE

FEASIBILITY OF REMOVING THE CELL
TOWER.

WE CAME HERE, I THINK, IN
JUNE
OF '23 WITH A MEMO SHOWING THE

RESEARCH THAT WE'VE
DONE,

SHOWING THAT THE LEVEL OF RF

RADIATION

EMITTING FROM THE CELL

TOWER IS
EXTREMELY HIGH.

IT GOES ANYWHERE FROM 15,000

MICROWATTS PER METER SQUARED
TO
OVER 400,000 AT THE LIBRARY.

AND THIS MEANS THAT THE CITY

HALL, THE RESIDENCES ACROSS THE

STREET, MUCH OF THE DOWNTOWN
IS

REALLY BEING EXPOSED TO
LEVELS

OF RF RADIATION WHICH ARE MUCH

HIGHER THAN WHAT HAS
BEEN

ESTABLISHED BY SCIENTIFIC
RESEARCH.

AS SAFE.

WHICH IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30
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TO
10 MICROWATTS PER METER SQUARED.

AND ANOTHER REASON I THINK THAT

WE SHOULD REMOVE THIS IS

BECAUSE
IT IS SUCH A BLIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER
CITY

IN SONOMA COUNTY THAT HAS A

HUNDRED-FOOT-HIGH CELL TOWER
RIGHT IN ITS DOWNTOWN.

IT'S UGLY.

WE ALREADY

HAVE MANY, MANY CELL
TOWERS HERE.

IT'S DOUBTFUL THAT ITS

DISPLACEMENT OR REMOVAL WOULD

AFFECT ANY KIND OF CONNECTIVITY
ISSUES.

AND THE LAST REASON I

THINK YOU

SHOULD CONSIDER MAKING THIS A

GOAL IS THAT IT OCCUPIES A
KEY
PIECE OF REAL ESTATE.

IT IS RIGHT WHERE POTENTIALLY

THE LIBRARY COULD EXPAND OR
THE
CITY HALL COULD EXPAND.

THE AREA --

YOU HAVE ABOUT 20
SECONDS.

FOR MULTIUSE.

YOU COULD HAVE

ADDITIONAL

HOUSING OR OTHER USES, MIXED

USES DOWNTOWN THAT WOULD MEAN IT
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WOULD IMPROVE THE

REVITALIZATION
WHICH IS QUITE NECESSARY.

SO, FOR THESE THREE REASONS,
I

URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE PLACE
AS

A GOAL THE FEASIBILITY
OF

LOOKING INTO THAT CONTRACT YOU

HAVE WITH CROWN CASTLE AND
SEE

IF YOU CAN GET OUT OF
IT.

THAT'S TWO
MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL GO OUT
TO ZOOM.

OLIVER, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?

I WILL GO BACK
OUT TO ZOOM.

IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS?
SARA?

THANK YOU, MARY AND

COUNCIL
MEMBERS.

I'VE SUBMITTED WRITTEN COMMENTS.

YOU'VE JUST RECEIVED TWO
OF
THEM.

ONE AS LATE AS AN HOUR AGO.

I ORGANIZED IT SO YOU CAN
FOLLOW

ALONG AS YOU GO THROUGH YOUR
ATTACHMENTS, BUT INAgenda Item Number: 3
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PERSON, I

WANTED TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION
TO

A VERY UNIQUE

OPPORTUNITY YOU

HAVE RIGHT NOW IN THIS MOMENT IN

TIME, AND IT'S A REALLY POSITIVE
OPPORTUNITY.

YOU HAVE A FACILITIES ISSUE,
A

SPACE ISSUE FOR SEVERAL OF
YOUR

MOST IMPORTANT
PUBLIC
FACILITIES.

CITY HALL HAS
BEEN MENTIONED.

KATIE MENTIONED THE SENIOR
CENTER.

ALSO KNOW THE COMMUNITY
CENTER

IS IN A DIFFICULT SPOT

HERE IN

THE LAND THAT FLOODS, AND WE
ALSO HAVE THE LIBRARY.

I'M SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY AS AN

INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF THE

LIBRARY
AD HOC COMMITTEE.

THAT'S YOUR

COMMITTEE

INVESTIGATING THE

POTENTIAL

EXPANDED IMPROVED FACILITY
FOR
OUR LIBRARY.

WE'RE HONING THE MESSAGES IN
OUR

REPORT AS FRED

MENTIONED, AND I

WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE ASK
YOU FOR AN UPDATED NAME.

THAT WE ALSO ASK YOU FOR AN

UPDATED SCOPE SO THAT
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OUR

PURPOSE CAN

INCLUDE

COLLABORATIVE WORK WITH OTHER

NONPROFITS THAT NEED THEIR SPACE
IMPROVED.

I'M ALSO GOING TO ASK
YOU,

HOPEFULLY THROUGH THE

COMMITTEE,

THAT YOU AUTHORIZE THE AD HOC TO

ENTER CONVERSATIONS AND TO ASK
THE

LIBRARY DIRECTOR FOR FUNDS
FOR A FEASIBILITY STUDY.

IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE WORK

TOGETHER, AND THAT WE HAVE A

POSITIVE VISION FOR OUR
FUTURE

AFTER SO MUCH KIND

OF NEGATIVE
NEWS ABOUT FINANCIAL CRISIS.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 17 SECONDS.

THANK YOU.

SO, I'M HOPING THAT YOU
WILL

OFFER SUPPORT FOR

KATIE'S

REQUEST FOR THE SENIOR

CENTER,

TABLE THAT CONVERSATION
UNTIL

THE AD HOC'S REPORT COMES
IN,

AND CONSIDER TODAY PUTTING
AN

ASTERISK IN YOUR PLANS FOR
AA

FACILITIES WORKSHOP, FOR
A

FACILITIES COMMITTEE, AND ALLOW

US TO GO FORWARD

COLLABORATIVELY

TOGETHER TO
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IMPROVE OUR

NONPROFIT SITUATION HERE IN
TOWN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM.

OLIVER, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YEAH.

I'M UNMUTED.

SORRY ABOUT THAT BEFORE.

I HAD A CALL
RIGHT AS I WAS DUE.

NOW I'M FREE.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN SEE THE TIMER, YEAH.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, SO, THERE'S A VERY
GOOD

SLIDE IN THE DECK SAYING,
LOOK

AT THE BIG

STONES FIRST BEFORE

YOU LOOK AT THE SMALL

STONES,

AND MOST OF THE COMMENTS SO
FAR
HAVE BEEN DETAIL.

WHAT I FEEL VERY STRONGLY
ABOUT

IS THAT MOST OF THE
CITY'S
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FINANCIAL PROBLEMS, WHICH WERE

CAUSED BY PAST COUNCILS

PRIMARILY, AND WE'RE IN A
VERY

DIFFICULT POSITION, WE'RE TRYING
TO DIG OURSELVES OUT OF.

IT'S CAUSED BY THIS

FINANCIAL
PREDICAMENT WE'RE IN, AS I SAY.

I'VE SAID SEVERAL TIMES THAT

WHEN YOU DRIVE INTO

SEBASTOPOL,

IT JUST -- THE

CITY OF

SEBASTOPOL, IT
JUST
SAYS, "WELCOME TO DOWNTOWN
SEBASTOPOL" AND KATIE'S COMMENTS

ABOUT THE SENIOR CENTER, I
PICKED UP ON THAT EARLIER.

IT'S FANTASTIC THAT WE HAVE A
SENIOR CENTER.

WHAT'S NOT SO FANTASTIC IS THAT

THE VERY

FEW TAXPAYERS IN
SEBASTOPOL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

OUR PROPERTY TAX, I THINK,
WE
GET 14% OF THAT MONEY WE HAVE
TO

PAY OUR PROPERTY TAX TO
THE

COUNTY AND THEN THE CITY
ONLY
GETS 14% OF THAT
MONEY BACK.

OUR SALES TAX IS FAILING.

THERE'S VERY LITTLE WE CAN DO.

SO, DIGGING OUT OF THIS BIG
HOLE

AND FIGHTING OUR CORNER AS THE

CITY OF SEBASTOPOL IN ORDER
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TO GET

FAIR COMPENSATION FROM
THE

COUNTY FOR ALL OF THE

FACILITIES

WE PROVIDE FOR LOCAL

PEOPLE, I'M
NOT ATTACKING THAT.

I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC.

BUT THE POINT IS THAT --
AND
I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.

IT'S LIKE AN INVERSE

SPHERE OF

INFLUENCE WHERE THE COUNTY
ARE

TAKING MORE AND MORE

ADVANTAGE

OF THE CITY, MORE AND MORE

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COUNTY

THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE
TO

COME AND LIVE IN THE CITY AND WE

SHOULD BUILD MORE HOUSES FOR

THEM.

SO, TO ME, THIS GOALSETTING

MISSION SHOULD BE WHAT
WE

ACHIEVE IN -- AT THE END OF
THE

FIRST YEAR, THE THIRD

YEAR AND
THE FIVE-YEAR.

HOPEFULLY, IT'S JUST THE VERY
FIRST MEETING OF SEVERAL.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING

WHAT THE CITY STAFF SAY THEY
CAN
DO AFTER THIS INITIAL MEETING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, OLIVER, FOR
YOUR
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PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

THANK YOU.

I'M GARY, PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD

OF THE SEBASTOPOL AREA SENIOR
CENTER.

AND I WANTED TO REITERATE
WHAT

KATIE SAID, AND I ALSO WANTED
TO

PUT SOME EMPHASIS ON HOW

IMPORTANT THE SENIOR CENTER
IS
TO THIS COMMUNITY.

IN ADDITION TO WHAT KATIE

MENTIONED, THE SEBASTOPOL
AREA
SENIOR

CENTER, FROM THE

STANDPOINT OF SERVICES AND THE

PROGRAMS THAT WE PROVIDE, IS
THE

LARGEST SENIOR CENTER NORTH
OF
SAN FRANCISCO.

WE PROVIDE MORE SERVICES
THAN
ANY OTHER SENIOR CENTER.

WE SERVE MEALS EVERY DAY FOR
$10, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE

MONEY, YOU CAN COME AND HAVE A
MEAL ANYWAY.

SO, THE ISSUE OF TURNING AWAY
PEOPLE, TURNING AWAY 30 TO
40 PEOPLE A DAY, IS BECOMING
CRITICAL.

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IF THESE PEOPLE COME AND CAN'T

GET INTO A CLASS, THEY
JUST
WON'T COME ANYMORE.

AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS?
THEY'RE STUCK IN THEIR HOME.

THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL

SERVICES

TO TAKE CARE OF THESE PEOPLE
INCREASE.

SO, KEEP IN MIND HOW

IMPORTANT
THE

SPACE REQUIREMENT IS FOR THE
SENIOR CENTER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL GO BACK OUT TO

ZOOM.

CATHERINE, CAN YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?
YES.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
SOMEHOW YOU GOT MUTED.

CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF AGAIN?

THERE YOU
GO.

CAN YOU HEAR ME?
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YEAH, CAN YOU SEE
THE TIMER?
I CAN.

THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

THE GOALS OF THIS

MEETING

SHOULD BE LASER-FOCUSED ON
THE
MOST VITAL NEEDS OF THE CITY.

SEBASTOPOL IS IN A FISCAL

CRISIS, A DEFICIT, IT
HAS

DECLINING SALES

REVENUE,

FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS SHOW
MORE
DECLINE IN REVENUE.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS
UNDERSTAFFED.

THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE
HAS AT
LEAST $20 MILLION IN

UNFUNDED

INFRASTRUCTURE NEED, INCLUDING

ROADS, PARKS, AND CITY
FACILITIES.

THERE IS NO FUNDING FOR THIS

INCREDIBLE AMOUNT
OF
INFRASTRUCTURE LIABILITY.

GIVEN THIS REALITY, CITY
STAFF

AND COUNCIL NEED TO SPEND
THEIR

LIMITED TIME AND ENERGY IN

MAKING GOVERNMENT MORE EFFICIENT

AND MAKING

INFRASTRUCTURE

IMPROVEMENTS THAT IMPROVE
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THE

QUALITY OF LIFE FOR MOST
PEOPLE

WITH THE LIMITED FUNDS AVAILABLE

TO THE CITY, LIKE REPLACING
THE
CHAIN LINK FENCE IN IVES PARK.

THE CITY HAS ZERO

FUNDING AND

ZERO STAFF RESOURCES TO

DAYLIGHT

THE CREEK IN IVES PARK, TO
MOVE

THE SENIOR CENTER OR TO BUILD A
MASSIVE COMPLEX IN IVES PARK.

NONPROFIT GROUPS SHOULD
START

RAISING MONEY TO FUND THEIR

PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS, AND
ONCE
THEY REACH A MINIMUM 50% OF

THEIR PROJECTED BUDGET, THEN
THEY SHOULD COME TO THE CITY.

THE CITY CANNOT AFFORD STAFF

TIME ON MULTIMILLION
DOLLAR

PROJECTS THAT HAVE ZERO EXISTING
FUNDING.

THE SENIOR CENTER IS

OBVIOUSLY

DOING A WONDERFUL JOB AND SHOULD

PETITION THE COUNTY FOR FUNDING

AND FOR A
NEW BUILDING.

IN TERMS OF HOUSING,

SEBASTOPOL

HAS THE VAST MAJORITY OF

AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN WEST

COUNTY AND HAS MORE HOMELESS

HOUSING PER CAPITA THAN
ANY
OTHER CITY IN SONOMA COUNTY.

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SEBASTOPOL TAX-PAYING

RESIDENTS

ARE SUBSIDIZING RESIDENTS AT

BURBANK APARTMENTS,

BURBANK

HEIGHTS, ELDERBERRY COMMONS,

PARK VILLAGE AND OTHER
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SEBASTOPOL HAS A

FENTANYL

PROBLEM, WHICH WAS DOCUMENTED
BY

THE RECENT BUST OF THE HALF
A

POUND OF FENTANYL AT THE
FAIRFIELD INN.

THANK
YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT,

I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

HI, EVERYBODY.

I'M LISA PEARCE.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH
THE

FRIENDS OF IVES PARK, AND I WANT

TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT
WHAT

A TREASURE IVES PARK IS FOR
OUR
TOWN.

EXCEPT FOR

ONE BIG DRAWBACK

THAT'S REALLY TAKING AWAY
FROM

ITS BEAUTY FOR MANY YEARS,
AND

THAT'S THE CHAIN LINK FENCING
THAT RUNS ALONG THE CREEK.

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FOR 30 YEARS, I HAVE
HEARD

PEOPLE SAY, I WOULD DONATE
MONEY

TO GET RID OF THAT CHAIN
LINK

FENCING AND PUT UP
BETTERLOOKING FENCING IN AREAS
WHERE FENCING IS NEEDED.

THIS MOMENTUM IS REALLY

STARTINGTO
SNOWBALL.

THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR
THIS.

TO BE ABLE TO HAPPEN.

THERE IS MONEY AVAILABLE
FROM

MEASURE M, AND THERE ARE
PEOPLE
STANDING BY WHO WANT TO DONATE.

I'M HOPING THAT WHAT THE CITY

SPECIFICALLY

PRIORITIZES, I

REALIZE THIS IS MORE OF
A

GENERAL EVENT YOU'RE DOING
HERE,

BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE,

SPECIFICALLY, A PRIORITY FOR
NEW
FENCING IN THE EVENT AREA.

THE EVENT AREA BEING THE AREA

AROUND THE STAGE,

SURROUNDING
THE
CREEK.

AND THERE ARE SEVERAL

REASONS

FOR PRIORITIZING THIS AREA,
BUT
I'LL
SEND THOSE IN AN EMAIL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.

IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM

ZOOM THAT

LIKE TO MAKE A

GENERAL
PUBLIC COMMENT, RAISE YOUR HAND.

SEEING NONE, I WILL COME BACK
INTO CHAMBERS.

STEVE PIERCE.

I'M FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT MY

WIFE, LISA, JUST SAID, AND
IN

SUPPORT OF REALLY TRYING TO
FOCUS ON IVES PARK.

IT IS A JEWEL FOR OUR TOWN,
AND
IT HAS MANY ISSUES.

AND THE FENCING PROBABLY, THAT'S

THE ONE WE HEAR THE MOST
OVER
THE YEARS.

OH, THAT UGLY FENCING.

LET'S DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

IN ADDITION TO REPLACING
IT,

WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, WE NEED
TO

REALLY LOOK AT REMOVING IT
WHERE
IT ALSO MAKES SENSE.

THE AREA THAT A LOT

OF PEOPLE

REFER TO AS THE CENTRAL

MEADOW,

IT'S KIND OF ADJACENT TO
THE

BALL FIELD, AND IN THE
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MIDDLE
THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF

OPPORTUNITY

THERE TO REMOVE FENCING,
AND

WE'RE IN
SUPPORT.

FRIENDS OF IVES PARK, WE'RE
IN

SUPPORT OF THE INITIATIVE TO
GET

GRANT FUNDING FOR THE LOWER

REACHES OF THE CREEK.

WE SEE THAT AS A GOOD

OPPORTUNITY, AND WE REALLY WANT

TO, AT THE SAME TIME, PROTECT
OUR EVENTS SPACE.

IT'S OUR TOWN'S, REALLY,
ONLY
EVENT SPACE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN
HAVE

PEACE TOWN, APPLE BLOSSOM,

MULTIPLE USES OF OUR EVENT
SPACE.

SO, IT'S A COMBINATION EFFORT.

REPLACE FENCING, AND
REMOVE
FENCING, AND BEAUTIFY THE PARK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL GO BACK OUT
TO
ZOOM.

IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC
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COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR
HAND
VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, I WILL COME BACK
HELLO.

THANK YOU FOR

HAVING PUBLIC

COMMENT ON THE GOALS FOR OUR

CITY.

MY NAME IS JUDITH.

I LIVE IN SEBASTOPOL.

I'D LIKE TO WHIP THROUGH FOUR

THINGS VERY QUICKLY

RELATING TO

THE CELL TOWER WHICH IS LIKE A

SWORD IN THE HEART OF
SEBASTOPOL.

THE STUDIES WILL COME ROLLING
IN

FAST AND FURIOUS AND THE

EFFECTS, AS WE ALL KNOW, ARE
NOT
GOOD.

THE LABYRINTH WHICH WAS FORMED

NUMEROUS YEARS AGO BY A TEAM
FOR

HIS FRIENDS, TEENS WHO HAD
TAKEN

THEMSELVES OUT BY SUICIDE,
WAS

TAKEN OUT BY SOMEONE AND
NEEDS
TO BE PUT BACK.

THERE ARE PLANS FOR IT,
AND
THEY'RE VERY MODEST IN COST.

THE WONDERFUL AND UNIQUE

OCCUPIED BENCH, WHICH IS IN THE
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SQUARE, NEEDS TO BE KNOWN AS
THE

OCCUPIED BENCH OTHER

THAN BY

THOSE OF US WHO KNOW IT AS
THAT,

BY A PLAQUE, VERY MODEST IN
COST

THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE
AND
EMBEDDED IN THE CENTER.

AND LASTLY, I WOULD SUGGEST
A

NATURE OMBUDSMAN, WHICH WOULD

NOT BE A PAID POSITION, BUT

SOMEONE WHO COULD TAKE AN

HONORARY POSITION AND KEEP
AN

EYE ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE
DONE,

WHAT IS BEING DONE, AND
MOVE

FORWARD WITH THINGS LIKE
THE

FLOWER BEDS RIGHT AROUND CITY

HALL THAT ARE VERY BARREN
AND
COULD BE EASILY SPRUCED UP.

SO, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU.

THANK
YOU, JUDITH.

NEXT, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A

PUBLIC COMMENT, RAISE YOUR HAND
VIRTUALLY.

I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS.

I'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT
OF

WHAT I WOULD CALL TACTICAL

GOALS, BUT I'M ALSO INTERESTED
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IN STRATEGIC GOALS.

AND MAYBE THAT'S PART OF
WHAT'S
GOING

TO HAPPEN AS THE PROCESS
CONTINUES TODAY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW
IS

REALLY WONDERFUL, I MOVED HERE

DURING THE SHUTDOWN, AND I
SAW

THAT ALL THE KIDS KNOW HOW TO
SWIM.

THAT WE HAVE THAT SECOND
GRADE
TRAINING AND VOLUNTEERS.

I'M THINKING OF ANOTHER KIND

OF GOAL

LIKE THAT WHICH IS TO TRAIN
EVERYONE HOW TO BE A CITIZEN.

IT'S NOT EXACTLY CIVICS.

CIVICS SORT OF IS MORE

POLITICAL, BUT HOW DO WE
GET
CERT WORKING?

HOW DO WE GET, YOU KNOW -- WE DO

HAVE, WHAT'S IT CALLED,
SERIES

PROJECT FOR SOME PEOPLE
WHO

DON'T HAVE FOOD, BUT HOW DO WE
GET

PEOPLE TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE
INVITED IN?

TO PARTICIPATE IN ALL
THESE

DIFFERENT NONPROFITS

AND BUILD

BACK COMMUNITY

CONNECTIONS THAT

I FEEL ARE KIND OF BROKEN
SINCE
THE SHUTDOWN.

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THAT'S MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL GO BACK OUT TO
ZOOM.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE

TO MAKE A

PUBLIC COMMENT, RAISE YOUR HAND
VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, I WILL COME
BACK
INTO CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS

WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
PUBLIC
COMMENT?

SEEING NONE, PUBLIC

COMMENT IS
CLOSED.

THANK YOU, MARY.

SORRY FOR

CATCHING YOU OFF GUARD
EARLIER.

NOW, WE'RE GOING

TO TURN IT OVER
TO OUR CITY MANAGER.

SO, THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND

COUNCIL, FOR HOLDING THIS
WORKSHOP.

THIS IS REALLY AN EXCITING

OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO

LEARN AND

THE COMMUNITY TO LEARN WHAT'S

MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU TO GO
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BEYOND THE WEEK-TO-WEEK OR
EVERY

OTHER WEEK

RHYTHM OF CITY

COUNCIL MEETINGS AND

HOPEFULLY

TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF

A STEP BACK

AND A LONGER-TERM VIEW OF WHAT

YOU'RE MOST INTERESTED IN US
ACCOMPLISHING.

IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BOTH
BE
CREATIVE.

IF SOMETHING IS MISSING ON
THE

LIST THAT WE PROVIDED TO
YOU,

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD

IT WHEN
THE OPPORTUNITY COMES.

WE HAVE TRIED TO
BE

COMPREHENSIVE, BUT THAT WINDOW
REMAINS OPEN.

PLEASE FEEL FREE
TO ADD IT.

AND THEN, BY THE TIME WE'RE

DONE, OUR TASK WILL BE TO
TAKE

YOUR GOALS AND PRIORITIES
AND

TURN THEM INTO ACTION STEPS SO

WE CAN DELIVER ON WHAT NEEDS
TO

BE DONE BASED ON WHAT'S MOST
IMPORTANT TO YOU.

I HAVE A SAYING, THEY'LL PUT
IT

ON MY TOMBSTONE IF STAFF
HAS

ANYTHING TO STAY ABOUT IT,
WE

NEED TO KNOW WHO IS GOING TO
DO
WHAT AND BY WHEN.

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THAT'S A PLAN.

IF WE DON'T THOUGH THOSE

THINGS,

WE DON'T

HAVE A PLAN, WE HAVE A
FANTASY.

THAT'S WHERE WE ULTIMATELY
WANT

TO GET IS WHO'S GOINGGOING TO
THE

THINGS THAT'S GOING TO

ACCOMPLISH YOUR GOALS AND
MEET
YOUR HIGHEST PRIORITY.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT TODAY.

LOOK FORWARD TO THE
CONVERSATIONS TO COME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DON.

AND YES,

ACTION STEPS, HOPEFULLY
TOWARDS ACTION PLAN.

PLAN TO IMPLEMENT EVERYTHING.

SO, NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE

TO -- WE DO HAVE A SLOT IN
HERE

FOR AGENDA REVIEW BUT WE

ALREADY

DID THAT BEFORE AND I THINK

WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT OF
THE
AGENDA THAT WE HAVE HERE.

SO, NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE

INTO DISCUSSION OF WHAT
MAKES

EFFECTIVE GOVERNANCE WITH OUR

FACILITATOR, AND AGAIN, JUST
AS

A REMINDER, ALL THE

PRELIMINARY
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INFORMATION WE AGREE TO TO BE

NOLONGER
LONGER THAN HOUR.

SO, THIS IS JUST A
REMINDER.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR
FACILITATOR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MY NAME IS STEVE MURMELL WITH
THE FIRM OF BAKER TILLY.

I DO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONSULTING

BUT PRIOR TO BECOMING A

CONSULTANT, I WORKED FOR
33 YEARS FOR THE CITY OF

PASADENA
DOWN IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

SOME OF YOU KNOW IT FROM THE

ROSE PARADE OR THE BIG BANG

THEORY, DEPENDING HOW

OLD YOU
ARE.

I HAVE ASSISTED AT

NUMEROUS CITY

COUNCILS WITH STRATEGIC PLANNING
AND GOAL-SETTING.

I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE TODAY.

AS THE MAYOR

MENTIONED, THERE'S

BEEN A LOT OF WORK DONE

ALREADY

BRINGING TODAY'S DISCUSSION

FORWARD ABOUT INDIVIDUAL

CONVERSATIONS WITH EACH
MEMBER
OF THE COUNCIL.

AND WITH THE MANAGER.

BRIEFLY, WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN
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IS

WHAT WE'RE
DOING TODAY.

OF COURSE, OUR MAIN FOCUS IS ON

GOAL-SETTING AND IDENTIFYING

SOME PRIORITIES THAT
WILL
FURTHER THE GOALS.

SO, THE FOCUS HERE IS REALLY ON
THE BIG PICTURE.

WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF
VERY

INTERESTING PROJECTS

MENTIONED

DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT
OUR

PLAN IS TO FOCUS ON THOSE BROAD

ISSUES THAT ULTIMATELY MOVE THE
CITY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SO, OUR GROUND RULES FOR
TODAY,

WE HAVE A GOOD GROUP OF

COUNCIL

MEMBERS SO I DON'T THINK IT WILL

BE AN ISSUE, BUT ASSUME
THAT

EVERYONE COMES HERE WITH
A

POSITIVE INTENT TO

DO WHAT'S

RIGHT FOR THE CITY,
SEEK

CONSENSUS, STAY FOCUSED,
AND
LISTEN WITH CURIOSITY.

SHOULD ANY ISSUES COME UP
THAT

AREN'T REALLY RELEVANT TO
OUR

DISCUSSION TODAY, I'M

GOING TO
WRITE THEM ON THE BOARD HERE.

WE'LL CALL THAT THE BIKE
RACK,

AND THAT WILL GET HANDLED IN
AN
APPROPRIATE FASHION.

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SO, WITH NO FURTHER ADO, WE'RE
GOING TO JUMP INTO IT.

THIS COUNCIL IS TO BE

APPLAUDED,

BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND

IT, WHEN

YOU ON-BOARD WITH THE COUNCIL,

YOU'RE PROVIDED A COPY OF
THE

ARTICLE FROM THE INSTITUTE
OF

LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH
WAS

INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET ON
EFFECTIVE GOVERNANCE.

I

BELIEVE THAT WAS MADE

AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO READ
AS WELL.

BROADLY SPEAKING, WHAT MAKES FOR

EXCEPTIONAL CITY COUNCILS
ARE

SIX TRAITS, AND THEY ARE
HAVING

A SENSE OF TEAM, WORKING
IN

PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
CITY

MANAGER AND THE STAFF TO GOVERN

AND MANAGE THE CITY.

HAVING CLEAR ROLES AND
RESPONSIBILITIES.

THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE

POLICY-SETTING BODY FOR
THE
COUNCIL.

THEY EMPLOY A CITY MANAGER TO
IMPLEMENT THAT POLICY.

HONORING THE RELATIONSHIP
WITH

STAFF AND WITH EACH
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OTHER,
SETTING THE TONE.

UNFORTUNATELY, I WOULD SAY
OVER

THE LAST ABOUT TEN
YEARS,

THERE'S REALLY BEEN A

DEGRADATION IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE

OF THE WAY PEOPLE BEHAVE,
AND

BECAUSE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS ON
THE FRONT LINE, WE SEE IT THERE.

I'VE DONE WORK WITH

CITIES WHERE

THE POLICE FREQUENTLY ESCORT
COUNCIL MEMBERS OUT.

CIVILITY IS IN A LOT OF
AREAS,

IT'S BEEN LOST, AND
IT'S

IMPORTANT FOR US TO

REMEMBER

THAT AND HONOR THE

RELATIONSHIP
WITH EVERYONE.

IT'S OKAY

TO DISAGREE IN AN
AGREEABLE FASHION.

CONDUCTING EFFECTIVE MEETINGS.

AND THIS INCLUDES READING ALL

THE MATERIAL BEFOREHAND,
ASKING

QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF
IN

ADVANCE SO THAT THEY CAN

PROVIDE

THE INFORMATION
MOST

COMPREHENSIVE

INFORMATION

POSSIBLE FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE
ITS DECISIONS.

HOLDING THEMSELVES

ACCOUNTABLE,

COUNCIL MEMBERS HOLDING
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THE
STAFF ACCOUNTABLE.

AGAIN, THE COUNCIL SETS
POLICY

AND HOLD THE MANAGER

ACCOUNTABLE
FOR IMPLEMENTING.

HAVING COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO

PRACTICE CONTINUE OUS

IMPROVEMENT

BY PARTICIPATING IN CONFERENCES

AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR
LEARNING.

BRIEF OUTLINE HERE OF THE

COUNCIL-MANAGER FORM OF
GOVERNMENT.

THE COUNCIL MEMBERS
ARE

RESPONSIBLE TO THE VOTERS
WHO
ELECT THEM.

AND THEY, AS I MENTIONED, SET

THE POLICY, WHICH IS THE
WHAT

AND THE WHY, WHICH WE'LL BE
DISCUSSING TODAY.

THE COUNCIL HIRES A CITY

MANAGER

AND THE CITY MANAGER

IMPLEMENTS

THAT POLICY, SORT OF THE WHO AND
THE HOW TO GET IT DONE.

THE MANAGER

CAN BE LOOKED UPON
AS THE COUNCIL'S TOP ADVISOR.

STAFF WILL ADVISE
THE COUNCIL.

STAFF PROPOSES, BUT THE COUNCIL
DISPOSES.

THE COUNCIL DECIDES THE
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ALLOCATION THROUGH THE BUDGET

AND DETERMINES WHAT THE
PRIORITIES ARE FOR THE CITY.

JUST TO ROUND THIS OUT, SOME

TIPS FOR WHAT MAKES FOR GOOD
POLICY AND SOLID ORGANIZATIONS.

THESE ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, SORT
OF

GOLDEN RULE TYPE OF

MESSAGES,

BUT THEY DO GET LOST, AND I,

AGAIN, WITH A NUMBER OF

CLIENTS,

I'VE SEEN WHERE THEY DO
GET
LOST.

SO, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT UP HERE.

I WON'T WALK THROUGH ALL
OF
THEM.

I KNOW THIS COUNCIL IS WELL
VERSED WITH THIS MATERIAL.

THESE

ARE A GOOD PRIMER AND AS

WE GO INTO OUR DECISION
TODAY,
IT'S GOOD TO KEEP THESE IN MIND.

SO, IN MY INTERVIEWS WITH THE

COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE LIKE
TO
START OFF ON A HIGH POINT.

AND I ASKED EACH OF THE COUNCIL

MEMBERS, WHAT

ARE SOME OF THE

CITY'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS OVER THE
PAST YEAR?

THE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE IN
BOLD
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WERE MENTIONED BY MORE THAN ONE
COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO, I'LL LEAVE IT UP HERE
SO
EVERYONE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

OBVIOUSLY, THE FIRE

DEPARTMENT

MERGER IS A PRETTY

HEAVY LIFT,

BUT A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT
ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR THE CITY.

AND THE PASSAGE OF THE SALES TAX
MEASURE.

HIRING THE CITY MANAGER AND

FILLING KEY VACANCIES IS
IMPORTANT, OF COURSE.

AND THEN HAVING A NEW TRASH

CONTRACTOR IN PLACE WAS ALSO A
LOT OF WORK.

A BIG
ACCOMPLISHMENT.

I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS,

IS THERE ANYTHING MISSING
FROM

THE LIST OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS
WE SIT HERE TODAY?

AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE OF
ACCOMPLISHMENTS IS CHALLENGES.

THERE'S NEVER A SHORTAGE OF
CHALLENGES.

SO, IN MY

DISCUSSIONS WITH THE

COUNCIL MEMBERS, HERE'S WHAT I
HEARD.

AND YOU KNOW, THESE ARE
THE
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TYPES OF CHALLENGES ALMOST EVERY

CITY IN CALIFORNIA IS DEALING
WITH.

INFRASTRUCTURE,
AGING

INFRASTRUCTURE, A LOT OF
THINGS
IN THE GROUND ARE 30, 40 YEARS

OLD, AND

WE DON'T THINK ABOUT

THEM UNTIL THEY START BREAKING
DOWN.

AND THEY'RE

INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE
TO REPLACE.

HOMELESSNESS AND THE

CHALLENGES

WITH GETTING THE COUNTY TO
DO
ITS PART.

THE HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM
HAS

FALLEN PREDOMINANTLY ON CITIES,

AND CITIES AREN'T RESOURCED
TO
HANDLE IT.

CITIES AREN'T THE SOCIAL

SERVICE
PROVIDER, TRADITIONALLY.

IT'S THE COUNTIES THAT ARE
THE
SOCIAL SERVICE PROVIDER.

FINANCIAL CHALLENGES,

BALANCING

THE BUDGET, NEGATIVE

PERCEPTIONS

OF CITY HALL, AND AGAIN,
THAT'S

PART OF

THE TONE THAT I HAVE

SEEN OVER THE LAST FIVE TO TEN

YEARS AS PEOPLE BECOME
MORE

NEGATIVE AND MORE SUSPICIOUS
OF
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GOVERNMENT.

I SUSPECT YOUR PUBLIC

RECORDS

REQUESTS ARE THROUGH THE
ROOF

FROM WHAT THEY WERE YEARS
AGO

BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK THAT THE

GOVERNMENT IS ALWAYS UP TO SOME
NEFARIOUS PLAN.

THE NEED TO REVITALIZE

DOWNTOWN

AND FOR BROADER

ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT.

FILLING VACANCIES.

THAT IS A CHALLENGE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE USED THE COVID

LOCKDOWN TO RETIRE, AND SINCE

THEN, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT TO
HIRE PEOPLE.

COUNCIL MEMBERS,

ANY OTHER
CHALLENGES, NOTABLE?

THAT YOU DON'T SEE REFLECTED
OBJECT LIST?

IT'S GOOD YOUR LIST ISN'T
GROWING.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER
TO

CITY MANAGER, WHO WILL WALK
US
THROUGH THESE NEXT THREE SLIDES.

WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS

WE'RE SETTING

SOME CONTEXT.

THE CITY IS LIMITED,
BOTH

FINANCIALLY AND THEN IN TERMS
OF
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STAFF RESOURCES, AND
THE

MANAGER, DON, IS GOING

TO TALK

ABOUT THE FINANCIAL SIDE
OF
THINGS.

MR.

CITY MANAGER?
THANK YOU, STEVE.

SO, TWO SLIDES HERE FROM BOB

LELAND WHO PUTS TOGETHER A
LONG-TERM FINANCIAL MODEL.

THESE ARE, TO SOME EXTENT,
TWO
SIDES OF THE SAME COIN.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE

GENERAL

FUND FORECAST, ASSUMING THAT
WE

GET A QUARTER-CENT AND RETAIN A

QUARTER-CENT OF THE MEASURED USE
SALES TAX.

THAT'S ALL WE HAVE BUILT IN
HERE

BECAUSE THE SECOND PART

OF THAT

IS NOT GUARANTEED IN THE LONG

RUN, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT
OUR

REVENUES ARE BELOW
OUR

EXPENDITURES CURRENTLY
AND

THAT'S PROJECTED TO

CONTINUE FOR
THE
FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

THAT'S ILLUSTRATED AT THE
BOTTOM

OF THE FIRST CHART BY THE
RED

THAT'S JUST ONGOING

DEFICITS

FROM WHAT OUR CURRENT
-- WE CALL

THAT OUR BASE CASE
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PROJECTION

NOW BECAUSE THAT'S THE BEST
PROJECTION WE HAVE AVAILABLE.

AND THE SECOND SLIDE SHOWS
THE

STORY IN A SLIGHTLY

DIFFERENT

MANNER, LOOKING AT OUR FUND

BALANCES, AND THIS

INCLUDES

GENERAL FUND UNASSIGNED BALANCE

AND THE PENSION TRUST IS
THERE

AS WELL BECAUSE WE

ANTICIPATE

STARTING TO DRAW THAT DOWN IN A
COUPLE OF YEARS.

WE HAVE A 15% GOAL AS A MINIMUMMINIMUM
FUND BALANCE.
20%

IS WHAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE
TO HAVE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN
THE

COMING YEARS, WE'RE OKAY FOR
A
WHILE.

MEASURE U HAS HELPED EXTEND THE

DEADLINE, IF YOU WILL,
WHEN

THOSE NUMBERS START
GOING

NEGATIVE BUT WITHOUT SOME KIND

OF ADDITIONAL -- SIGNIFICANT

ADDITIONAL REVENUE, WE'LL
EITHER

HAVE TO DO MAJOR CUTS OR
WE'RE

GOING TO BE FACING A REALLY
UNTENABLE SITUATION.

WE MADE PROGRESS ON OUR

FINANCES, BUT WE STILL HAVE A
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WAYS TO GO.

OKAY.

IMPLICATIONS, KIND OF SETTING

THE STAGE FOR NEXT
YEAR.

OUR LATEST PROJECTIONS,
SO, A
$300,000 DEFICIT NEXT YEAR AND
THEN GROWING BEYOND THAT.

WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE
BUDGET
PROCESS NOW.

I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT
THE
DEFICIT NUMBER LOOKS LIKE.

THERE'S TOO MANY MOVING
PIECES

AT THE MOMENT, BUT IT WILL --
IT
WON'T BE $300,000 BECAUSE
WE'RE

NEVER EXACTLY RIGHT, BUT IN THE

LONG RUN, IT CONTINUES TO
GROW,

AND AT THIS POINT, I DO

BELIEVE

WE WILL

HAVE A DEFICIT WITHOUT
SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.

IN THE LONG RUN, WE NEED TWO
OUT

OF FOLLOWING

THREE TO ACHIEVE
FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY.

WE NEED THE SECOND HALF OF THE

MEASURE U SALES TAX FOR THE
12 YEARS.

WE NEED THE BARLOW HOTEL
AND/OR
WE NEED THE HOTEL SEBASTOPOL.

ONE OF THOSE THREE IS NOT

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ENOUGH.

TWO OF THOSE THREE, WE'LL BE
IN
GOOD SHAPE.

THREE OUT OF THREE, AND WE'LL
BE

IN VERY GOOD
SHAPE.

WE ARE CONTINUING TO PURSUE
EFFICIENCIES.

SOME OF THE UPCOMING

OPPORTUNITIES INCLUDE MOVING
THE
BUILDING APARTMENT TO CITY HALL.

WE DON'T LOOK AT THAT SO

MUCH AS

A COST SAVINGS AS MORE AS
A
BETTER SERVICE MODEL.

WE ARE LOOKING AT NEW MODELS
FOR

MANAGING FLEET

PROCUREMENT,

PARTICULARLY WITH THE NEED
TO

ELECTRIFY

OUR FLEET AND WITH

SOME OF THE

COSTS WE'RE LOOKING
TO REPLACE IT.

IS

CROSS-TRAINING OF STAFF SO WE

HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO
MOVE

FOLKS FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO

ANOTHER, BECOME A LITTLE BIT
LESS SILOED OF AN ORGANIZATION.

THOSE ARE NOT THE ONLY THINGS

WE'RE DOING BUT THOSE ARE

EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE'LL

CONTINUE

TO PURSUE AS WE HAVE WITH
THE

FIRE CONSOLIDATION, AS AN

EXAMPLE, THE COMBINATION
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OF

ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS

IS ANOTHER
EXAMPLE.

SO, AN ONGOING PURSUIT
OF

EFFICIENCY AND IMPROVING
OUR

SERVICES AT

REDUCING OUR COSTS

AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE, IF YOU
WOULD.

OKAY, SO, FOR '25-'26 AS WELL,

AGAIN, MEASURE U HELPS, EVEN AT
A QUARTER CENT.

ITS PURPOSE IS TO MAINTAIN
CITY
SERVICES.

IT DOES NOT CREATE A NEW POOL
OF

MONEY TO ADD NEW PROGRAMS
AND
PROJECTS.

EVEN A HALF CENT DOESN'T
GET US
THERE OVER THE NEXT 12
YEARS,

BUT IT WILL HELP MAINTAIN
WHAT
WE HAVE.

I DON'T ANTICIPATE

RECOMMENDING

ANY LAYOFFS, AND I DO

ANTICIPATE

PROPOSING SOME USE OF OUR

RESERVE FUNDS, ONES IN THE

BROADLY DEFINED BUILDINGS AND

INFRASTRUCTURE, ANOTHER IN
FLEET
AND TECHNOLOGY.

WE'VE GOT WELL

OVER A MILLION,
PROBABLY CLOSE TO 1.8

MILLION

BETWEEN THOSE TWO AND
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THERE'S

SOME THINGS WE

NEED TO INVEST
IN.

AND THEN SOME OF THE CHALLENGES.

I DON'T

FORESEE, AT THIS POINT,

ROOM TO ADD ANY NEW

POSITIONS
WITHOUT DELETING SOMETHING.

I'M HOPING THAT CHANGES
BY THE

TIME WE'RE

DONE, BUT THAT'S THE
WAY IT LOOKS AT THE MOMENT.

ANOTHER CHALLENGE WILL BE -- I

KNOW THERE'S SOME INTEREST
IN

ADDING NEW AMENITIES TO
OUR

COMMUNITY, BUT RIGHT NOW,
WE'RE

STRUGGLING TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE

HAVE, SO THAT WILL BE
A

CHALLENGE FOR

YOU TO CHOOSE
AMONGST SOME THINGS.

AND THEN, SOME NEED TO

INVEST IN

THE ORGANIZATION, AND TECHNOLOGY

IS PROBABLY THE BEST

EXAMPLE OF

THAT BUT THERE ARE SOME TRAINING

NEEDS, SOME REVIEW OF OUR

PRACTICES WHERE WE CAN
BECOME
MORE EFFICIENT.

WE ARE BEHIND IN PLACES, AND
WE
NEED TO START CATCHING UP.

SO, THAT WILL BE SOME OF THE

OTHER THEMES YOU'LL BE

HEARING

ABOUT AS WE GET INTO THE
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NITTY-GRITTY ON BUDGET AND
THE

HEARINGS IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS
OR SO FROM NOW.

THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ON FINANCES.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT ITEM IS STAFF CAPACITY.

DON, DID YOU ALREADY KIND
OF

TALK ABOUT THAT WITH YOUR PRIOR
COMMENTS?
NOT REALLY.

I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
STEVE WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT.

IT'S MORE -- A LITTLE BIT
HIGHER
LEVEL.

OKAY.

YES, JUST A SLIDE OR TWO ON

THIS TOPIC.

YEAH, JUST AS A

REMINDER,

WE'RE AT SEVEN MINUTES BEFORE

THE HOW, BUT GO
AHEAD.

CORRECT, MAYOR.

IN ADDITION TO THE FINANCIAL

CONSTRAINTS, AS I MENTIONED

PREVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE

CAPACITY
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CONSTRAINTS.

YOU ONLY HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE
AND

SO MUCH WORK THAT THEY CAN GET
DONE.

SO, I THINK THE ICEBERG
IS

APROPOS BECAUSE WHILE THERE'S

THE HIGH-LEVEL PROJECTS
AND

PRIORITIES PEOPLE WOULD LIKE
TO

SEE DONE, THERE'S THE

ROUTINE

WORK OF THE CITY, WHICH

FRANKLY

MOST OF THE STAFF ARE

EMPLOYED

TO PERFORM THAT ROUTINE WORK AND

VERY FEW ARE AVAILABLE

OR HAVE
THE

CAPACITY TO PURSUE
PARTICULAR PROJECTS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR FIRM, BAKER

TILLY, THIS IS NOT SPECIFIC
TO

SEBASTOPOL, BUT

BASED ON OUR

WORK WITH OTHER LOCAL

GOVERNMENTS, IN TERMS OF

MANAGEMENT'S TIME,
ABOUT 85% OF

MANAGEMENT'S TIME IS DEVOTED
TO

JUST THE DAILY RUNNING OF
THE
CITY.

AND THEN, THERE'S THE

OCCASIONAL
EMERGENCY THAT ERUPTS OR CRISIS.

TAKES ABOUT 5%.

UNFORESEEN CHALLENGES.

AND SO, IT LEAVES

PRECIOUS

LITTLE TIME TO PURSUE NEW
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INITIATIVES, THOUGH IT'S THE
NEW

INITIATIVES THAT

ALMOST ALL

PEOPLE WANT PAUSE THEY

TAKE FOR

GRANTED THE DAY-TO-DAY PRAIGSS
OF THE CITY.

SO, BECAUSE YOU'RE IN
A

SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE

LIMITED

FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND
DON'S

CHARTS SHOULDN'T GO WITHOUT
NOTICE.

IF SOMETHING'S NOT

CORRECTED,

THE CITY WILL FIND
ITSELF

HITTING THE WALL

FINANCIALLY,

AND WHILE IT'S A FEW YEARS
OUT,
YOU HAVE TIME TO DEAL WITH IT.

BUT YOU'RE EITHER MAKING MONEY
OR
LOSING MONEY.

THERE'S CURRENTLY NOT MUCH
IN
BETWEEN.

SO, THAT'S FUNDAMENTAL, BECAUSE

WITHOUT THE FINANCIAL

RESOURCES,

YOU'RE NOT DOING MUCH
OF
ANYTHING.

AND AGAIN, BETWEEN
THAT

CHALLENGE AND THE CHALLENGE
OF

LIMITED STAFF CAPACITY,
IT

RAISES THE IMPORTANCE OF
GOAL-SETTING.

YOU CAN'T DO EVERYTHING,
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EVEN

THOUGH THERE'S SO MANY
WORTHWHILE THINGS TO DO.

YOU HAVE TO PRIORITIZE.

SO, YOU CAN'T DO

EVERYTHING, AT

LEAST NOT ALL AT ONCE,

BUT YOU

CAN DO SOME THINGS VERY, VERY
WELL.

AND YOU CAN DO THAT BY

ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE'S
THE

ONGOING WORK OF THE CITY
AND

FOCUSING ON A FEW

IMPORTANT
STRATEGIC GOALS.

AND AS WE SHIFT INTO THAT,
WE'RE

GOING TO SPEND A LITTLE
TIME

WITH SOME LANGUAGE

CLARIFICATION, BUT STEVEN
COVEY
WROTE THE BOOK, "SEVEN HABITS
OF
HIGHLY EFFECTIVE PEOPLE.
"

SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE
OF
THAT.

HE CAME UP WITH THIS

CONCEPT

THAT IF YOU WANT TO GET
BIG

THINGS DONE, YOU START WITH
THE
BIG THINGS.

IF YOU HAD A BUCKET

AND THERE

WAS A BUNCH OF ROCKS OF VARIOUS

SIZES, YOU PICK UP THE BIG
ROCKS

FIRST, AND WHERE YOU HAVE

CAPACITY, WHERE YOU HAVE
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ROOM,

YOU FILL IN WITH THE

SMALLER
THINGS.

IF YOU SPEND ALL YOUR TIME

JUST DOING

SMALL PROJECTS,
YOU'LL

NEVER GET THE BIG THINGS
DONE,

AND YOU WON'T DEAL WITH THE
BIG

STRATEGIC CHALLENGES THAT ARE
FACING YOUR CITY.

SO, AS WE GET INTO IT, SOME

DEFINITIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE
US

TO TRY TO USE, ALTHOUGH IT'S

DIFFICULT, AND

PEOPLE USE
DIFFERENT WORDS INTERCHANGEABLY.

FOR MY PURPOSES, WHEN I USE
THE
TERM, "GOAL," I MEAN IT'S
A
BROAD GOAL OR A GOALGOAL AREA.

FOR EXAMPLE, INFRASTRUCTURE.

DEALING WITH YOUR
CITY

INFRASTRUCTURE OR FINANCIAL
STABILITY.

LOTS OF TIMES, PEOPLE SPEAK OF

GOALS, BUT THEY ARE REALLY

TALKING ABOUT PARTICULAR
PROJECTS.

NICE TO HAVE PROJECTS.

AND THE PROJECTS MAY
BE GREAT.

PROJECTS -- AND THEY MAY

FURTHER
A GOAL OR THEY MAY NOT.

SO, THE FIRST PART OF OUR
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EXERCISE TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO

ASK THE COUNCIL TO SPEND
SOME
TIME TO DEFINE ITS BIG GOALS.

THE STRATEGIES ARE

INDIVIDUAL

PROJECTS OR INITIATIVES THAT
FURTHER A GOAL.

AGAIN, THERE'S LOTS OF
WORTHY

PROJECTS OUT THERE, BUT DOES IT
FURTHER A PARTICULAR GOAL?
IT MAY OR MAY NOT.

THE MOST EFFECTIVE ONES ARE

THOSE THAT FURTHER THE

COUNCIL'S
IDENTIFIED GOALS.

AND THEN, PRIORITIZING THOSE

STRATEGIES, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU

CAN'T DO THEM ALL AT ONE
TIME,

THOSE BECOME THE PRIORITIES,
AND

THAT BECOMES THE DEPARTMENTAL
CITY WORK PLAN.

SO, IN THE INTERVIEWS WITH

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DIFFERENT

THOUGHTS CAME OUT, BUT THIS
IS

WHAT I TOOK AWAY AS WITH THE

MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL.

WE'RE SAYING THEY FEEL
THE

IMPORTANT GOAL AREAS FOR
THE
CITY.

WE'D SPEND A LITTLE TIME ON

THIS, AND WE ARE HOPING
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TO REACH
SOME CONSENSUS ON THIS TODAY.

EVERYTHING FLOWS FROM THIS.

IN ADDITION TO THESE, THE
STAFF

OFFERED UP ONE THAT I'LL

ASK DON

AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME
TO
DESCRIBE.

BUT THEY ARE, IN NO

PARTICULAR

ORDER, OR IN

PRIORITY, THE

LONG-TERM FISCAL

SUSTAINABILITY
OF THE CITY.

I THINK DON'S CHARTS HELP
ILLUSTRATE WHY.

AND THEN THERE'S -- WE COULD

JUST AS WELL HAVE DONE A VENN

DIAGRAM OF THESE BECAUSE

THERE'S

AN INTERSECTION, VIRTUALLY,
OF
ALL OF THEM.

THERE'S OVERLAP.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,

INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY,
HOMELESSNESS.

MAYOR, I WANT TO PAUSE AT
THIS

MOMENT AND SOLICIT FROM THE

COUNCIL SOME COMMENTS AND
SOME
THOUGHTS ON THESE GOAL AREAS.

AGAIN, THESE CAME OUT INITIALLY

FROM THE INTERVIEWS THAT WE
HAD.

THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHECK

IN WITH THE COUNCIL TO SEE,
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DO

THESE APPEAR TO BE
THE
APPROPRIATE GOAL AREAS?
IS THERE ANYTHING MISSING?

BEST PRACTICES TO HAVE NO MORE
THAN HALF A DOZEN GOALS.

SOME CITIES HAVE AS FEW AS FOUR.

SOME CITIES AND CITIES
WILL

DO -- TEND TO ADD MORE THAN
SIX,

BUT I WOULD SAY BEST PRACTICE
IS
AROUND A SIX NUMBER.

BUT AGAIN, LET ME PAUSE

AND TURN

IT TO THE MAYOR AND TO THE
COUNCIL.

MAYOR?

COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES

ABOUT THESE
PROPOSED SIX?
I THINK WE LANDED ON FIVE.

BUT AS INDICATED, DON PUT
ANOTHER ONE UP.

COUNCIL MEMBER MAURER?

SO, I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT

LIST THAT I JUST WANT TO GIVE
VOICE TO.

AND I THINK IT'S EIGHTEIGHT GOALS.

SO, IT WOULD BE PRESERVE

SMALL-TOWN SEBASTOPOL, ECONOMIC

VITALITY, WHICH IS SORT OF IN

THERE, A VIBRANT COMMUNITY,
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RESTORE PUBLIC
TRUST,

INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, YOU
HAVE

LISTED, BEAUTIFY AND PRESERVE

THE DOWNTOWN AS A

VIBRANT,

THRIVING COMMUNITY CENTER OF

SHOPPING,

ENTERTAINMENT AND
RECREATION DISTRICT.

THAT'S ONE GOAL.

IMPROVE WALK AND

BIKEABILITY
AROUND TOWN.

AND CLIMATE RESILIENCE.

SO, DO YOU THINK THAT ANY
OF

THOSE CAN FIT IN THESE BOXES
THAT YOU HAVE HERE?
HOW WOULD THAT WORK?
THAT'S A QUESTION FOR ME?

WELL, YES,

BECAUSE I DON'T

SEE ANYTHING THERE
ABOUT

COMMUNITY VITALITY OR

BEAUTIFYING THE DOWNTOWN

OR, YOU
KNOW, IN TERMS OF A BIG BUCKET.

SURE, WELL, COMMUNITY

VITALITY, I WOULD ASK YOU FOR A
LITTLE MORE DEFINITION ON THAT.

CERTAINLY, IT COULD BE -- AND

AGAIN, AS A STARTING POINT, I

CERTAINLY COULD SEE

MODIFYING
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ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO

ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY
VITALITY, FOR INSTANCE.

YOU CAN

GET THERE WITH SOME OF

THESE BY MODIFYING THEM A LITTLE
BIT.

YEAH.

I DON'T SEE THOSE TWO AS THE
SAME ISSUE.

I THINK THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT
ISSUES.

SO, COMMUNITY

VITALITY IS

DIFFERENT, FOR ME, THAN ECONOMIC
VITALITY.

SO, SINCE ULTIMATELY
THE

COUNCIL WILL BE DECIDE --
ASKED

TO DECIDE ON THE GOALS, IT MIGHT

BE HELPFUL IF YOU ARTICULATED
A

LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT COMMUNITY
VITALITY MEANS.

WELL, I HAVE A FEW

PROJECTS,

BUT I -- I'M NOT -- WE'RE NOT
GOING THERE YET.

I MEAN, IT COULD BE ALL, YOU

KNOW, THE IMPROVED WALK
AND

BIKEABILITY AND

CLIMATE

RESILIENCE AND BEAUTIFYING THE

TOWN, A VIBRANT

TOWN, COULD ALL
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BE UNDER ONE HEADING.

VIBRANT COMMUNITY.

SO, WHAT I HAVE DONE IS I
PUT

THAT UP ON THE BOARD HERE
FOR

CONSIDERATION ALONG WITH THE
OTHER
CHOICES HERE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS AS DETERMINED
BY THE
COUNCIL.

OKAY, AND I REALLY WANT
TO

SEE RESTORE PUBLIC
TRUST,

BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT IN YOUR
LIST EITHER.

FOR THE SAKE OF

DISCUSSION,

HOW WOULD THAT BE
APPROACHED?

WHAT SORT OF STRATEGIES WOULD
BE

UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF

RESTORING
PUBLIC TRUST?

I THOUGHT, THIS SECTION,

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
BIG
PICTURE.

RIGHT?

WHAT WE WANT TO DO

IS TRY TO
RESTORE PUBLIC TRUST.

SO, I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO

THE, YOU KNOW, THE DETAILS ON
HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S
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APPROPRIATE.

BUT
IT'S NECESSARY.

WE NEED TO DO THAT.

IF I COULD PAUSE, THERE WAS
A

QUESTION FROM
THE VICE MAYOR.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW

THE AGENDA

HERE AND TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT

WHERE THIS FITS IN WITH WHAT
WE'RE DOING HERE.

ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE GIVING
OUR
GOALS NOW?

IT WAS INTRODUCED IN CONTEXT
FOR

PRIORITY-SETTING

DISCUSSION,

BREAK, AND THEN ESTABLISH CITY
COUNCIL GOALS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
WE'RE

ALL ON THE SAME PAGE FOR WHAT
WE'RE DOING HERE.

WE'RE ON ITEM 10.

IF THE -- I TOOK THE MAYOR'S

COMMENTS TO HEART, AND I PUT US
BACK ON OUR SCHEDULE.

I THINK WE'RE RIGHT ON SCHEDULE.

I COMPLETED THE

INTRODUCTION AND
CONTEXT FOR PRIORITY-SETTING.

THE AGENDA CALLS FOR A

BREAK IF
THE COUNCIL IS SO INCLINED.

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BUT WE'RE DISCUSSING THE COUNCIL
GOALS

AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL
REACH CONSENSUS ON THEM.

YEAH, SORRY, VICE MAYOR.

I FORGOT TO ASK PEOPLE DID WANT

A BREAK OR WHETHER WE
SHOULD
JUST ROLL THROUGH.

WAS THERE INTEREST IN HAVING A
BREAK?

COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON?

I HAVE A SMALL INTEREST
IN
THAT TOO.

AND ALSO, A SMALL INTEREST
IN

JUST KIND OF WATCHING THE
FULL

GROUP OF US WHEN WE RAISE OUR

HANDS, THAT WOULD BE
GREAT TOO.

THANKS.

OH, SORRY.

YES.

A SMALL BREAK?
FIVE MINUTES?
SURE, FIVE MINUTES.

WE'LL BE BACK A LITTLE BIT
BEFORE 10 AFTER.

TECH IS READY, AND MARY,
ARE
YOU?
OKAY.

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GOOD.

SO, WE'RE GOING TO RESUME.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND

RESUME, AND I -- I DID
HAVE

ONE -- I DON'T

KNOW WHAT
HAPPENED TO IT.

THE FIRST -- I WANT TO THANK
THE

VICE MAYOR FOR REMINDING ME THAT

I CALL OUT -- COLLEAGUES,
WE'RE
PICKING BACK UP.

I WANT TO THANK THE VICE MAYOR

FOR REMINDING ME WE
HAD A
TEN-MINUTE BREAK.

I NEGLECTED THIS END OF THE

BENCH, WHICH WAS COUNCIL MEMBER

HINTON, SO NOW I'M GOING
TO

SWITCH TO COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON.

LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER

MAURER,

I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED
ABOUT

MAYBE IT WOULD BE GOOD TO JUST

GO THROUGH THE PROCESS SO
WE

KNOW WHAT -- AT WHAT

POINT WE

SHOULD BE BRINGING UP OUR

QUESTIONS OR OUR CONTRIBUTION
TO
IT.

BUT FOR NOW, JUST LOOKING AT
THE

BASIC SIX THAT ARE UP THERE,
I

JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT
I
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REALLY THINK THAT

HOMELESSNESS,

THE SECOND PART, WHICH IS
LACK

OF SERVICES ON THE PART
OF

SONOMA COUNTY, IS REALLY KIND OF

GETTING LOST IN WHAT THE
HOMELESSNESS WORD IS THERE.

WHEN I READ THAT, IT SEEMS TO

INDICATE, LIKE, WE DON'T
MAYBE

DO ENOUGH FOR HOMELESSNESS,
BUT

I THINK THAT WHEN I READ WHAT

COLLEAGUES BROUGHT UP, THAT

MEANT, LIKE, HOW DO WE GET MORE

SERVICES OUT OF SONOMA COUNTY
OR

TO HELP US FUND OUR HOMELESSNESS
ISSUES?

I JUST WANTED TO, I GUESS,
BRING

THAT UP, BECAUSE THAT'S THE
WAY

I READ THE CHALLENGE OF --
THAT

WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE GROUP HERE
OR WHATEVER.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON.

THAT'S HOW I INTERPRETED IT AS
WELL.

IF I MAY, MAYOR AND

COUNCIL

MEMBER, APPRECIATE YOU MAKING
THAT POINT.

AT THIS JUNCTURE, WE'RE

TALKING
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BROAD GOALS AND GOAL AREAS.

THE IMPORTANT STRATEGIC VISION

ISSUES FOR THE CITY TO DEAL
WITH.

WE'RE NOT YET TALKING ABOUT THE

STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS THEM.

SO, YOUR POINT IS

APPROPRIATE
AND VERY WELL TAKEN.

IS HOMELESSNESS AN
ISSUE?

I HEARD IT FROM A NUMBER OF

COUNCIL PEOPLE THAT HOMELESSNESS
IS AN ISSUE.

WHAT GETS DONE TO ADDRESS
THAT

ISSUE IS -- THERE WOULD
BE

MULTIPLE STRATEGIES, AND
THE

COUNCIL WOULD PRIORITIZE
THOSE,
BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

WE'RE AT THE POINT IN THE BIG

PICTURE OF THINGS AT

40,000 FEET, WHAT ARE THE GOAL

AND GOAL AREAS THAT THE COUNCIL

FEELS ARE MOST IMPORTANT FOR
THE
CITY TO FOCUS ITS RESOURCES ON?
GREAT.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER?

SO, WHEN I LOOK AT THESE PAST

SIX GOALS THAT YOU'VE COME
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ACROSS, I SEE SOME OVERLAP
AND

SOME PLACES FOR AN ADDITIONAL
COUPLE HERE.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
AND

LONG-TERM FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY

REALLY KIND OF SPEAK TO THE

MONEY PART OF THE -- OUR
TOWN

AND MONEY PART OF OUR

OPERATION,

SO I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO SEE
THOSE MERGED JUST A TOUCH.

HOMELESSNESS COULD GO INTO
PUBLIC SAFETY.

PUBLIC SAFETY ISN'T JUST --

ISN'T JUST POLICE OR FIRE, BUT

IT ALSO IS THE SAFETY FOR
OUR

BUSINESSES TO OPERATE AND
THE

SAFETY FOR

THE UNHOUSED IN THEIR
SITUATION.

AND AS FAR AS, LIKE, A

HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION

GOES, THERE'S A LOT OF RESTORING

OF PUBLIC TRUST
AND

COMMUNICATION THAT CAN BE INVOLVED

IN THAT CATEGORY AS

WELL, SO I DON'T THINK THESE ARE

DISPARATE OR -- I DON'T KNOW
WHAT YOU WOULD CALL IT.

I DON'T THINK THESE ARE

CONFLICTING, BUT I

THINK, YOU
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KNOW, THEY BEGIN THE

WATERFALL
OF GOALS TO STRATEGY.

THANK YOU.

I'VE NOT HEARD FROM THE VICE
MAYOR.

NOPE.

YES, I DEFINITELY WANT
TO

HEAR MORE ABOUT THE

ADDITIONALADDITIONAL

ONES FROM COUNCIL MEMBER

MAURER,

BUT PRELIMINARILY, YES, I DO --

I LOVE THE ONE, TWO, THREE,
FOUR, FIVE.

I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE

HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION,

AND WHETHER AND HOW WITH THE
OTHER

FIVE WE WOULD HAVE ROOM
FOR MONEY TO DO THAT.

BUT COUNCIL MEMBER MAURER,
WOULD
YOU LIKE TO ELABORATE FURTHER?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR A
SECOND CHANCE AT THIS.

SO, WHEN I THINK ABOUT COMMUNITY

VITALITY AND SOME OF THE OTHER

GOALS THAT I HAVE, THEY
ALL

ACTUALLY, A LOT OF THEM, CAN
FIT
UNDER COMMUNITY VITALITY.

FOR EXAMPLE, PRESERVE

SMALL-TOWN
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SEBASTOPOL COULD BE FITTING

UNDER COMMUNITY VITALITY.

BEAUTIFY AND PRESERVE THE TOWN,

IMPROVE THE BIKE AND

WALKABILITY

AND CLIMATE RESILIENCE ALL
CAN
GO UNDER COMMUNITY VITALITY.

SO, MY REQUEST WOULD BE TO ADD

COMMUNITY VITALITY AS ONE OF THE
BOXES.

I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST
THAT

MERGING THE
FISCAL

SUSTAINABILITY WITH THE

ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT AND CALLING IT JUST

ECONOMIC VITALITY OR ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT, EITHER ONE, IT'S --

TO MERGE THOSE TWO SO

THEN YOU
HAVE AN EXTRA BOX.

I WOULD ALSO PUT THE

HOMELESSNESS UNDER PUBLIC
SAFETY

RATHER THAN HAVING HOMELESSNESS
BE ITS OWN BOX.

AND PUTTING RESTORING --
THE

IDEA OF RESTORING PUBLIC TRUST
UNDER HIGH-PERFORM ORGANIZATION.

AND THAT WAY, I DON'T KNOW IF
I'M MAKING THAT CLEAR.

BUT YOU

STILL HAVE -- I GUESS
THAT MAKES FIVE BOXES.

SANTA AND MAYOR, MAYBE
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AN

APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THE CITY

MANAGER TO ARTICULATE --

I WOULD LIKE TO AT
LEAST
ARTICULATE BEFORE THAT HAPPENS.

I'M OKAY WITH THESE BOXES
HERE

BECAUSE IT IS
THE 40,000-FOOT
VIEW.

I SEE LONG-TERM FISCAL

SUSTAINABILITY IN A SEPARATE
BOX

FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIMPLY

BECAUSE THAT'S LONG-TERM, AND

WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
THAT

MEANS SO MANY THINGS AND I
DON'T
SEE THESE TWO JIVING TOGETHER.

PERSONALLY, I LIKE
THIS HERE.

BUT I DO WANT TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT
HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION IS.

AND AS FAR AS HOMELESSNESS, I

COULD SEE HOW IT WOULD BE
UNDER

PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT

HOMELESSNESS

ISN'T JUST UNDER PUBLIC
SAFETY

BECAUSE A LOT OF PUBLIC

SAFETY,
IN MY OPINION, IS POLICE, FIRE.

I MEAN, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH
MORE ENCOMPASSING THAT.

IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED
ISSUE,

AND UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY, I
MEAN,

IT COULD BE UNDER SOCIAL
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SERVICES.

THERE'S JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT
WAYS THAT IT COULD BE.

I COULD SEE WHY IT'S A

SEPARATE
BOX.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT

FEEDBACK OUT THERE AND I,
TOO,

WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE
ABOUT

WHAT THIS HIGH-PERFORMING

ORGANIZATION BOX
MEANS.

BEFORE WE GET THERE, COUNCIL

MEMBER CARTER, IF YOU -- I
THOUGHT I SAW YOUR HAND.

WILL THERE BE

ADDITIONAL
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE GOALS?

OTHERWISE, I'LL LET YOU GO AHEAD

AND SPEAK, AND

THEN I'LL THROW
OUT SOME MORE IDEAS FOR GOALS.

DON, IF YOU WANT TO

PROVIDE

COMMENTS ABOUT THE
HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION.

SURE.

THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

SO, WHAT I MEAN, I

THINK, WITH

THE LEADERSHIP TEAM MEANS, ABOUT

HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION,
IS

ESSENTIALLY EXPANDING
OUR

CAPACITY TO DO MORE OF THE
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KIND

OF THINGS YOU'RE INTERESTED
IN
US DOING.

AND OPERATING AT A HIGHER LEVEL.

SO, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE
ARE

THINGS LIKE BETTER SYSTEMS,
AND

TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS
ARE
ABSOLUTELY A PART OF THAT.

WE ARE BEHIND IN PLACES.

WE'RE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF

WHAT'S OUT THERE AND

COMMON IN

OTHER CITIES, BUT IT'S ALSO

IMPROVING OUR OWN

INTERNAL

SYSTEMS OR WAYS OF

OPERATING,

OUR CAPITAL BUDGETS
ARE

CONSISTENTLY COME UP SHORT
IN

HOW WE PROJECT

WHAT THEY'RE
GOING TO COST.

OUR BUDGET SYSTEM IS CLUNKY.

SOME OF HOW WE DO REVIEWS
OF

PROJECTS OR WHAT I

SOMETIMES

CALLED ORPHAN PROJECTS, WE
NEED

A GREATER SENSE
OF

ACCOUNTABILITY AND BUILDING

THAT.

TRAINING.

IT'S A COMMON

ADD, AND WE
CERTAINLY HAVE A NEED FOR IT.

BUT THE THEME IS AROUND BUILDING

CAPACITY SO WE CAN DO MORE OF
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THE PROJECTS, AND WHEN WE THINK

ABOUT THIS IN A LONG-TERM

PERSPECTIVE, I BELIEVE
IT'S

WORTHWHILE MAKING SOME OF
THOSE

INVESTMENTS SO WE CAN

ULTIMATELY

ACCOMPLISH MORE IN THE LONG RUN

BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO
BE

ABLE TO ADD SUBSTANTIAL
NUMBER

OF STAFF ANY TIME IN THE
NEAR
FUTURE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO -- I'M SURE

NOT GOING TO WANT TO TAKE
AWAY

SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING,

BUT ADDING CAPACITY

ALLOWS US TO

DO MORE OF WHAT YOU'RE
INTERESTED IN DOING.

THAT'S THE NOTION BEHIND IT.

VICE MAYOR?

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT

SEMANTICS HERE.

AND OPEN TO BEING EDUCATED HERE.

IS THIS ABOUT THE COUNCIL

SETTING OUR GOALS OR ABOUT

EVERYONE, STAFF AND

COUNCIL,
SETTING THE GOALS?

I'M JUST TRYING TO

UNDERSTAND

WHERE WE SHOULD -- WE

LISTENED

TO THE PUBLIC, AND EVERYONE --
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I'M JUST TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND.

I UNDERSTAND WE ALL WANT

HIGH-PERFORMING BUT WE ONLY HAVE
SO MANY SPACES.

IS THIS MORE ABOUT WHAT THE

COUNCIL WANTS TO DO BASED ON
THE

PUBLIC FEEDBACK OR IS
IT
EVERYTHING?

I'VE DONE A LOT OF

DIFFERENT

STRATEGIC PLANNING LIKE
THIS,

AND I USUALLY LISTEN TO THE

BOARD, AND THE BOARD GIVES
ME

ALL THEIR, YOU KNOW,

GIVES ME

WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE

DONE, AND

THEN AS THE EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR,

IT'S MY JOB TO WORK WITH THE
STAFF TO EXECUTE.

SO, I'M JUST -- IT FEELS LIKE

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT
DISJOINTED.

IN THIS -- COUNCIL MEMBER,
IN

THIS CONTEXT, VICE MAYOR,
IN
THIS

CONTEXT, THE COUNCIL SETS
THE GOALS.

THE COUNCIL IS THE

POLICY-SETTING BODY OF THE
COUNCIL.

THE MANAGER CAN --

I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO.

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I'M TRYING

TO UNDERSTAND WHAT

THIS SLIDE MEANS AND WHY IT'S
LIKE THAT.

IT'S LIKE THAT

BECAUSE,

FROM -- IN THE

INTERVIEWS THAT I

HAD WITH THE COUNCIL

MEMBERS,

THIS WAS WHAT CAME OUT IN OUR

CONVERSATION BASED ON THE

COMMENTS AS TO GOAL

AREAS THAT

WERE IDENTIFIED IN
THE

INTERVIEWS AND OUR

PURPOSE HERE

TODAY IS TO

HOPEFULLY SOLIDIFY
THEM.

THE COUNCIL 'S NOT LOCKED
INTO
ANY PARTICULAR NUMBER OF GOALS.

A BEST PRACTICE WOULD BE FOUR TO
SEVEN.

I'M SHORE.

I SHOULD CLARIFY.

I'M ASKING WHY WE HAVE THE

EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP ONE
IN

THERE SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE'RE

DOING THE -- I'M JUST TRYING
TO

UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE

WANTING
FROM US.

THAT TAKES ONE SLOT

BECAUSE I

KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER --

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THERE'S NO FIXED NUMBER OF
SLOTS.

OKAY.

YOU CAN HAVE AS MANY SLOTS
AS
YOU WOULD LIKE.

THE FACT THAT THE MANAGER
FEELS

THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT

THE NEED TO INVEST IN

SYSTEMS

AND IMPROVE OPERATIONS THAT
HE

FEELS IT'S SIGNIFICANT
ENOUGH

THAT IT SHOULD BE

ACKNOWLEDGED

AS A GOAL IS HIS SUGGESTION TO
THE COUNCIL.

IN NO WAY LIMITS THE NUMBER OF

GOALS THE COUNCIL CAN HAVE,
AND

YOUR DISCUSSION THIS

AFTERNOON

IS TO DETERMINE IF THESE ARE THE

RIGHT GOALS, IF THERE'S OTHERS
MISSING.

I WOULD SAY TO SOME OF THE
PRIOR

COMMENTS, I WOULD
AVOID

COMBINING -- AT THE LEVEL
THAT

THESE ARE, THESE
ARE

DISTINGUISHABLE ENOUGH THAT
THEY

STAND ON
THEIR OWN.

CERTAINLY, AGAIN, AS I

MENTIONED, YOU COULD HAVE -- I

COULD HAVE DRAWN A VENN DIAGRAM
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TO SHOW THE INTERSECTION OF
ALL

OF THESE BECAUSE THEY REALLY DO

INTERSECT, BUT THEY'RE
LARGE

ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN BUILD
YOUR

STRATEGIES AND YOUR WORK
PLAN

AROUND THESE SPECIFIC GOAL
AREAS

OR OTHER GOAL AREAS AS THE
COUNCIL MAY DETERMINE.

GREAT.

I'M LOOKING TO MY LEFT FOR OTHER
COMMENTS.

I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER.

YEAH.

I THINK THE VENN DIAGRAM

ANALOGY
IS PRETTY GOOD.

AND MAYBE IF WE HAVE SEVEN TO

NINE GOALS LIKE THIS, IT MIGHT

BE USEFUL TO SEE WHERE SOME

OVERLAP IS, AND USE THAT AS
OUR

AREA OF OPPORTUNITY AND
FOCUS

BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT THERE
IS

OVERLAP AND SOME KIND OF
STRATEGY INVOLVED.

SO, LIKE, IS ACTUALLY USING

STRATEGY LIKE A GOAL FOR

HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION,

LIKE, YEAH, WE WANT
A

FUNCTIONING CITY, AND THAT KIND
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OF, LIKE, DETERMINES

WHETHER
WE'RE FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE.

YOU KNOW, HOW DID THAT WORK?
CAN WE OVERLAP THESE?

OR SHOULD WE JUST START

A LITTLE

BIT OF A LAUNDRY LIST OVER
THERE

ON YOUR TABLET TO ADD A FEW MORE

THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO
CONSIDER?

WELL, AGAIN, ALL OF THESE --

THERE'S INTERSECTIONS

AMONGST

THESE OR WHATEVER GOAL AREAS THE

CITY COUNCIL WILL ULTIMATELY
LAND ON.

AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT

INTENDED TO
BE A LAUNDRY LIST.

WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY A

CERTAIN NUMBER OF BROAD
GOAL
AREAS, AGAIN, AT A 40,000-FOOT

LEVEL, THAT THE COUNCIL
IS

ARTICULATING THAT YOU WANT
TO
ALIGN

YOUR LIMITED RESOURCES IN
PURSUIT OF.

SO,

NOT FOCUSING ON PARTICULAR
PROJECTS YET.

BUT BROADLY SPEAKING, WHERE

ARE THOSE

AREAS THAT

THE CITY

COUNCIL AT THE POLICY LEVEL
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FEELS IT'S MOST IMPORTANT FOR

THE CITY TO FOCUS ON OVER THE

TERM OF GENERALLY, IT'S ABOUT A
YEAR.

SOME COUNCILS ADOPT THEIR GOALS
FOR TWO YEARS.

THE FREQUENCY, AGAIN, IS UP TO
THE COUNCIL.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT EFFORT

INTO THIS AND A YEAR GOES BY
PRETTY QUICK.

THAT RAISES AN INTERESTING

QUESTION,

ALTHOUGH COUNCIL
MEMBER MAURER HAS A QUESTION.

WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT THE TIME
PERIOD?

IS THIS ONE,
TWO-YEAR?

WHEN ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS
THAT?

I WOULD SAY, FIRST,

DETERMINE

WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE, AND THEN

DISCUSS THE DURATION,
BUT

HOWEVER THE COUNCIL -- MAYOR,
HOWEVER YOU WISH TO PROCEED.

I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER MAURER
AND
THEN VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU.

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SO, I HAVE TWO -- ONE

INTENTION -- ACTUALLY,

THERE'S
TWO INTENTIONS.

ONE WAS SUGGESTED BY ANOTHER

COUNCIL MEMBER, WHICH IS THE --

AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR THE
WATER
AND SEWER.

SO, LOOKING AT THESE SIX BOXES,

WHERE WOULD YOU SAY THAT
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WOULD GO?

WELL, FIRST, I WOULD SAY
THAT

IN THE COURSE OF OUR

DISCUSSION,

THAT IS A STRATEGY,

AND WE'RE

NOT YET DISCUSSING

STRATEGIES,

BUT IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME, IT

COULD CERTAINLY FIT UNDER
A
HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION.

IF WE INCLUDED MAKING

SURE THAT

THAT CONCEPT OF

REBUILDING

PUBLIC TRUST, IF THAT FELL IN

THERE, IT COULD

PERHAPS

THEORETICALLY FALL UNDER ONE
OF
THE OTHERS.

LONG-TERM FISCAL

SUSTAINABILITY,

IF THE THOUGHT WAS SUCH AN

OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WOULD
HELP

IDENTIFY A MEANS OF IMPROVING

THE FISCAL
OUTLOOK.

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OKAY, THANK YOU.

I UNDERSTAND HOW

SOMETIMES

THINGS CAN FIT UNDER

DIFFERENT
BOXES.

SO, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS,

IF THERE WAS A GOAL OR INTENTION

OF ACKNOWLEDGING

INDIGENOUS

PEOPLES WHO LIVED HERE BEFORE

US, THROUGH PUBLIC ART OR LAND

ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS, ET

CETERA,

WHAT BOX COULD YOU SEE THAT
GOING UNDER?

I WOULDN'T SEE

IT GOING UNDER
ANY OF THOSE.

I WOULD SEE IT AS BEING

CONSISTENT WITH THE

COMMUNITY

VITALITY NOTION THAT YOU HAD
OFFERED PREVIOUSLY.

OKAY.

SO, THANK YOU.

VICE
MAYOR.

I HAVE NEVER BEEN A PART OF
A

STRATEGY MEETING WHERE WE
DIDN'T

UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TIME FRAME

IS, BECAUSE HOW CAN YOU

ACHIEVE
GOALS

IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
WHAT THE TIME FRAME IS?
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I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE US
ALL

TO DECIDE, ARE WE LOOKING AT
ONE
YEAR, TWO-YEAR, THREE-YEAR?

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE

PERSONALLY, I

THINK I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR
US

LOOKING AT ONE YEAR, SIMPLY

BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY MOVING
PARTS.

WE HAVE A FIRE

DEPARTMENT THAT

WILL HAVE MERGED THERE'S
A

LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS WE
HAVE

GOING ON THAT COULD

DEFINITELY

CHANGE OUR FINANCIAL

OUTLOOK

OVER TIME, AND IF WE SET A LOT

OF GOALS AND THEN IN ONE
YEAR,

WE FIND OUT THAT

MANY THINGS

HAVE WORKED TO OUR FAVOR,
THEN

WE ACTUALLY POSSIBLY COULD
HAVE

MORE FUNDS TO ACHIEVE THINGS OR
MAYBE NOT.

BUT IT SEEMS TO ME, I WOULD

ADVOCATE FOR US LOOKING AT ONE

YEAR AT THIS POINT AND
THEN

SETTING A GOAL FOR US TO DO
THIS

AGAIN AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT

YEAR WHEN ALL OF THESE THINGS

HAVE PLAYED OUT SO THAT WE
HAVE

A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING.

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YES.

THANK
YOU, VICE MAYOR, I AGREE.

AND MARY?

I WAS JUST

GOING TO SAY,

COUNCIL

MEMBER HINTON HAS HER
HAND
UP.

I'M SORRY.

I WAS GOING TO

ADDRESS

SOMETHING ELSE, BUT SINCE
WE'VE

OPENED UP THE CONVERSATION
ABOUT

TIMELINE, I'D LIKE TO

ORGANIZE

OUR THOUGHTS TO KIND OF
STAY
WITH THINGS.

SO, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE

BOXES, AND NOW WE'VE OPENED UP
TIMELINE.

IF MAYBE WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT

TIMELINE, SETTLE ON IT, AND THEN

WE CAN GO BACK TO THE
BOX

DISCUSSION SINCE TWO PEOPLE HAVE

WEIGHED IN ON TIMELINE, I WOULD

LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE
FISCAL
YEAR MARKER, RIGHT?

SO, THAT WOULD BE A YEAR,

BASICALLY, ON ALMOST A HALF FROM
NOW.

SO, THAT WOULD BE -- THIS
GOAL

WOULD BE SET THROUGH JUNE
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20 30th OF '26.

THAT WOULD BE MY WEIGH-IN.

AND THEN I HAVE

COMMENTS THAT I

HAD ORIGINALLY RAISED MY HAND

ABOUT, ABOUT THE BOXES, AND
I'M

HAPPY TO COME BACK IF WE
CAN

JUST MAYBE HEAR FROM EVERYBODY
ABOUT TIMELINE.

DID YOU SAY FISCAL YEAR?
FISCAL YEAR, JUNE 30th, '26.

SORRY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SORRY, YES, I THINK

I JUMPED IN
WITH THE TIMELINE.

SORRY.

BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE TWO

ON THIS

SIDE ABOUT
JUNE 30, 2026.

I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER MAURER,

COUNCIL
MEMBER CARTER?

I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER MAURER
IS
THUMBS UP.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER?
YES.

I WAS KIND OF THINKING
THAT
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MAYBE WE SHOULD DO LIKE A

THREE-YEAR GOAL SO AT

LEAST WE

HAVE THE LONG-TERM VISION
AND

THEN WE CAN DIAL IT BACK FOR ONE

YEAR, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THIS
WAY,

WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE
VISION FOR THIS CITY?

YOU KNOW,

LIKE, WHAT DO WE WANT
TO DEVELOP LONG-TERM?

BUT I DO KIND OF UNDERSTAND

WHATWHAT

LIKE TO DO FOR A
GOAL.

I'D LIKE TO SET US UP FOR
SUCCESS.

YES.

THE VICE MAYOR SAID SHE'D
LIKE
TO SET US UP FOR SUCCESS.

I, TOO, IN AGREEMENT.

BUT COUNCIL MEMBER

CARTER, DO

YOU STILL HAVE THOUGHTS,
CONCERNS?
NO.

OKAY.

I WANT TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL

MEMBER HINTON, BECAUSE I THINK I

DID JUMP IN ABOUT TIMELINE, AND

SHE HAD OTHER THOUGHTS THAT I'M

GOING TO COME BACK TO

COUNCIL
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MEMBER MAURER.

OKAY, AGAIN, IF WE'RE -- I

DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE SETTLED

TIMELINE, BUT I DO HEAR WHAT

FHILL IS SAYING ABOUT
A
LONG-TERM AS WELL.

WE KNOW THAT ELECTIONS COME
UP

EVERY TWO YEARS AND WE MIGHT

HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AT THE

DAIS, SO TO SET SO I A SHORTER

AND THEN A LONGER TERM, WHICH
WE

KNOW COULD BE CHANGED DEPENDING

ON WHO'S UP HERE, YOU
KNOW,
MAKES SENSE TO ME.

IF WE'RE SETTLING TIMELINE, I
APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK.

IF I WERE TO ADD SOME BOXES,
WE

HEARD FROM OUR FACILITATOR THAT

MAYBE NOW IS THE TIME TO ADD THE
BIG BOXES.

WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC

TODAY, I'LL JUST PUT IT IN A BIG
BOX CALLED COMMUNITY BUILDINGS.

AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW
IF IT

WOULD BE IN THE SAME BOX

BUT MAYBE

IT'S OPEN SPACE OR
PARKS
AND RECREATION.

WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT
IVES TODAY.

WE HEARD A
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LOT FROM SENIOR
CENTER ABOUT OUR BUILDINGS.

CITY HALL.

LIBRARY.

RIGHT?

SO, TO ME, INFRASTRUCTURE,
I

TEND TO THINK ABOUT CONCRETE,
YOU KNOW?
ROADS.

BUT I THINK THAT

COMMUNITY

BUILDINGS AND THEN MAYBE PARK

AND RECREATION, ALTHOUGH I COULD

SEE THAT VITALITY MIGHT FIT
IN
THERE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW

HOW COUNCIL

MEMBER MAURER FEELS ABOUT
IT.

MAYBE VITALITY IS ANOTHER BOX.

THAT WOULD GET US TO NINE BOXES

INSTEAD OF

SIX AND THEN WE DUMP
THINGS INTO THOSE BUCKETS.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I WAS GOING
TO
GIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
MAURER.

WELL, I'VE LOOKED AT ALL
MY

GOALS AND I'VE FIGURED OUT HOW

TO PUT THEM IN THOSE BOXES, SO
I

MEAN, FOR ME, COMMUNITY

VITALITY

IS A BIG, IMPORTANT GOAL, BUT
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A

LOT OF IT CAN FIT WITHIN
INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO, I DON'T THINK -- I DON'T
THINK

HOMELESSNESS SHOULD BE OF
ITSELF ITS OWN BOX.

I WOULD PUT THAT UNDER PUBLIC
SAFETY.

BUT YEAH.

THAT'S --
OKAY.

I'M HAPPY WITH THAT TOO.

SO, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE
NOW

DOWN TO ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR
IF

WE PUT HOMELESSNESS UNDER
PUBLIC

SAFETY, BUT THEN, WE HAVE

COUNCIL MEMBER

HINTON'S

ADDITIONAL ONES FOR COMMUNITY

BUILDINGS AND OPEN SPACE, BUT
VICE MAYOR?

I'M JUST TRYING TO

UNDERSTAND

IF WE TAKE HOMELESSNESS OUT
AND

WE PUT IT UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY,
THEN WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

I MEAN, WE HAVE THESE
GOAL
AREAS.

I'M JUST TRYING TO

UNDERSTAND
HOW THE FLOW WORKS WITH THAT.

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MARY, DO YOU WANT TO JUMP IN?

I THOUGHT YOU WERE LEANING
IN
EARLIER TOO.

I DON'T WANT TO

TAKE AWAY
FROM THE FACILITATOR.

I JUST WANTED TO REMIND

COUNCIL,

WHEN WE'RE DOING

GOALS, I'M

HEARING GOALS, PRIORITIES AS A
GOAL.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THESE
BOXES

WITH THESE OVERREACHING AND
THEN

WE'LL COME DOWN TO THE PRIORITY
AND THE STRATEGY.

BEING SPECIFIC

ABOUT, LIKE, IVES

PARK OR SOMETHING, TO ME, THAT

COULD BE A PRIORITY OR STRATEGY,

BUT HAVING LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE,
FACILITIES, TO ME, THAT'S ONE.

I KNOW THAT YOU
SEE

INFRASTRUCTURE ON CON CRETE
AND
ALL THAT.

I ALSO SEE PARKS AND
CITY

FACILITIES AS ONE THAT

COULD GO
UNDER THAT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO NOT CONFUSE
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

I THINK IF WE JUST FIGURE
OUT

WHAT THOSE SIX BOXES ARE, THE

OVERARCHING GOALS, AND THEN
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COME

DOWN ONCE WE CAN SETTLE ON
THAT
AND THEN COME DOWN.

COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER.

YES, BUT I'M NOT

ENTIRELY

SURE, BUT THE WHISPERING,
IT'S

ALL OVER EVERYWHERE, SO IF WE
CAN REFRAIN.

IF PEOPLE NEED TO STEP OUT AND

HAVE CONVERSATIONS, STEP
OUT OF

THE CHAMBERS, THAT WOULD BE
GREAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER MAURER

OR COUNCIL
MEMBER CARTER?
YES.

UNDERSTANDING THE DEFINITION OF

GOALS JUST A LITTLE BIT

BETTER,

I WOULD BE HAPPY IF

MELESSNESS

WERE SHIFTED UNDER
PUBLIC
SAFETY.

IT'S CERTAINLY IMPORTANT, LIKE A
PRIORITY KIND OF THING.

BUT COMMUNITY VITALITY KIND
OF

ROPES IN A NUMBER OF THESE

OTHERS THAT ARE IMPORTANT, TO

ME, WHICH SHARE A LOT OF

OVERLAP
WITH OPEN SPACE.

THE COMMUNITY BUILDINGS

COULD GO
UNDER
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INFRASTRUCTURE.

I WOULD BE FINE WITH THOSE
WITH

COMMUNITY VITALITY REPLACING
HOMELESSNESS.

OKAY.

LOOKING DOWN ON THIS SIDE,
SINCE

I ALWAYS SEEM TO NOT LOOK

FURTHER DOWN TO THE
RIGHT,

COUNCIL MEMBER
HINTON.

THAT'S

TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE TO

ME, AND THEN WE GET THE BIG SIX

AND THEN WE CAN START BREAKING

IT DOWN FROM
THERE.

DOES THAT MEAN IF WE WERE
TO

MOVE THAT, THAT WOULD
BE

CONSIDERED ONE OF
THE
PRIORITIES?

AND I'M JUST SAYING THIS

BECAUSE

I HAD A WOMAN SCREAMING
ABOUT

HOW SHE'S SICK OF BEING

HARASSED

IN FRONT OF THE POST OFFICE
AND
AT SAFEWAY TWO DAYS AGO.

THIS IS FRESH ON
MY MIND.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
IF

WE MOVE THAT, DOES THAT
GO

UNDER -- DOES THAT BECOME
PART
OF THE ABCDE OF PRIORITIES?

CERTAINLY, AS I'M HEARING
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THE

COUNCIL, THE THOUGHT IS TO PUT

HOMELESSNESS UNDER PUBLIC
SAFETY

BECAUSE THERE'S AN ASPECT OF THE

THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY
THAT

SOME MEMBERS OF

THE HOMELESS

COMMUNITY POSE, SO CERTAINLY, IT
COULD MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT.

AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE
DAY,

YOU ARE LIMITED ON

YOUR NUMBER

OF YOUR RESOURCES

TO PURSUE
ANYTHING.

BUT IT SEEMS THAT, AS A
GOAL

AREA, ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS IN

THE REALM OF PUBLIC SAFETY IS
CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE.

OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER?

MAYBE THAT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER
MAURER?
OKAY.

HAVE WE LANDED ON THE LONG-TERM

FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY, ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT,

INFRASTRUCTURE, AND
PUBLIC SAFETY/HOMELESSNESS?
IS THAT WHERE WE ARE?

VITALITY.

WE ADDED COMMUNITY VITALITY,
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RIGHT?
IN THE BOX OF HOMELESSNESS.

AND ARE WE KEEPING
HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION?

I'M GOING TO WEIGH IN AND
JUST SAY, NO.

I'M STILL VERY UNCLEAR, AND

GIVEN THE FEW RESOURCES THAT WE

HAVE, STAFF AND MONEY,
I'M
LEANING TOWARDS JUST THE FOUR.

WELL, THERE
WOULD BE FIVE.

FIVE, YEAH.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

COUNCIL MEMBER?

I'M GOING TO WEIGH

IN AND ASK
TO KEEP THAT FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE, WE DID, IN ANOTHER PRIORITY
BREAKDOWN, TALK ABOUT OUR I.T.

SITUATION, AND I BELIEVE THAT
THAT WOULD FIT INTO THAT.

AND THEN, THERE WAS

ANOTHER THING

THAT CAME UP IN THIS
LIST,

ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT

HIGHLIGHTED,

THAT SOMEBODY HAS VOICED,
AND

THAT WAS SILO STAFF DUE TO

REMOTE WORK AND MULTIPLE WORK
LOCATIONS.

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SO, I'M NOT SURE -- I

MEAN, IT

WAS SUGGESTED TO US

BY STAFF,

BUT THAT, TO

ME, IS NOT A REASON
TO PULL IT.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE
HAVE

BROUGHT UP THAT I THINK FIT
REALLY WELL IN THAT.

OKAY.

THANK
YOU.

THAT I DON'T

KNOW WHERE ELSE

THEY WOULD FIT, TO BE
HONEST.

VICE MAYOR?

I JUST WONDERED IF
THE

ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE

THAT IT

COULD BE UNDER LONG-TERM FISCAL
SUSTAINABILITY?

LONG-TERM FISCAL

SUSTAINABILITY

COULD RESULT FROM A

HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION
M

I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF
WE'RE

TRYING TO KEEP IT, YOU KNOW,

TIGHT, IF THAT WOULDN'T BE
UNDER
LONG-TERM, THE FIRST BOX.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER.

I'M JUST GOING TO WEIGH IN TO
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KIND OF CONCUR WITH THAT,
THAT

IT IS IMPORTANT BUT KIND OF
A

FUNCTION -- ALL OF THESE
ARE
DEPENDENT UPON A HIGHPERFORMING
ORGANIZATION.

SO, DO WE FOCUS ON CREATING
A

HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION
AS
A GOAL?

OR DO WE MAKE SURE THAT
IT'S,

YOU KNOW,

IT'S PART OF THE
LONG-TERM FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY?

I CAN DEFINITELY SEE
THE

HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION AS

THE VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL

MEMBER CARTER JUST

SAID, UNDER

LONG-TERM FISCAL

SUSTAINABILITY
AS WELL.

IT COULD GO EITHER WAY
ON
THAT.

BUT I THINK PUBLIC SAFETY SHOULD

STAND ALONE, AND THAT

HOMELESSNESS WILL BE AN ISSUE

UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY BUT
THAT

IT'S NOT
FEATURED FOR THAT.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

OKAY.

VICE MAYOR.

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I PERSONALLY WOULD STILL LIKE
TO SEE THE HOMELESSNESS.

I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO END
UP

GETTING BRUSHED ASIDE BECAUSE IT

IS A BIG
ISSUE HERE.

I'M -- I HEAR ABOUT IT
CONSTANTLY.

AND I DON'T WANT IT TO END UP
BEING, YOU KNOW, SET ASIDE.

SO, I PERSONALLY WOULD ARGUE
TO

KEEP IT AS PUBLIC
SAFETY/HOMELESSNESS.

JUST TO KEEP IT AS A PRIORITY.

I DON'T WANT TO BE SCREAMED AT
AGAIN.

AND I WOULD AGREE, TOO,

BECAUSE DON, OUR

GENERAL

MANAGER, KIND OF LISTED WAYS
TO

IMPLEMENT

THESE GOALS, WHICH IS

TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE COUNTY

COALITION FOR THE UNHOUSED OR

HOMELESS THAT I SIT ON THE
BOARD

OF, THAT IS A COUNTY AGENCY THAT

IF WE PUT THOUGHT

BEHIND, WE

COULD ACTUALLY SUGGEST
THAT

EITHER THE COUNTY MAKE IT
MORE

EFFICIENT OR THAT WE
START

LOOKING FOR A NONPROFIT IN
WHICH
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TO BE THE LEAD AGENCY.

SO, I'M FINE WITH EITHER

HOMELESSNESS BEING SEPARATE
BOX
OR MERGE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.

BUT I DO AGREE WE CAN'T LOSE

TRACK OF THE
UNHOUSED SITUATION.

SO, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GOING

BACK AND FORTH A LOT ON
WHAT

COUNCIL MEMBERSMEMBERS WANT,

WHETHER

THEY WANT

THE BOX OR THEY WANT

IT UNDER A
SUB CATEGORY.

TO MOVE ALONG, I THINK WE SHOULD

INCLUDE ALL FIVE OF US, WE

SHOULD DO A THUMBS UP/THUMBS

DOWN WHEN SOMEBODY MAKES A

SUGGESTION SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE

CAN'T -- WE'RE NOT ALL

SPEAKING,

BECAUSE WE'RE NOT --

I DON'T

KNOW WHAT'S THE VOTE ON THAT,
I
GUESS?

I'M FINE, I GUESS, EITHER, BUT

IF WE'RE GOING TO NOT
HAVE

ANYTHING ELSE STAND

OUT, THEN IT

SHOULD BE UNDER PUBLIC

SAFETY,
IN MY OPINION.

THAT'S WHERE I WOULD THUMBS UP.

OKAY.

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COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER?

JUST TO GO WITH COUNCIL

MEMBER HINTON HERE,

YEAH, I

WOULD LIKE TO DO A THUMBS
UP,

THUMBS DOWN KIND OF NOW ON THE

ADDING COMMUNITY VITALITY
AND

WHETHER OR NOT HOMELESSNESS
IS

ITS OWN THING IS KIND OF
IRRELEVANT.

WE CAN HAVE SEVEN.

IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

OKAY.

SO, THE SUGGESTION IS TO
DO

THUMBS UP ABOUT HAVING A BOX
FOR
COMMUNITY VITALITY.

I'M LOOKING TO MY RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON, OKAY.

SOMEONE WHO'S TAKING
NOTES,

THEY'LL CAPTURE THAT SO WE
DON'T
MISS IT.

WHAT WAS THE OTHER DECIDING
THING?

WHETHER WE WANT A SEPARATE
BOX

FOR HOMELESSNESS OR MERGE IT
WITH PUBLIC SAFETY?

WAS THAT THE OTHER THOUGHT,
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON?
YES.

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I THINK WE SHOULD THUMBS
UP,

IT'S EITHER MERGER WITH
PUBLIC

SAFETY OR IT'S SEPARATE
BOX.

OKAY.

SO, WE WANT TO SUGGEST WITH
THE

MERGER AND I'LL START WITH
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON.

ARE YOU ALL RIGHT WITH MERGING?
MERGE.

KEEP IT SEPARATE.

FINE WITH MERGING.

I DON'T CARE.

EITHER WAY IS FINE.

OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER MAURER?

I WOULD MERGE IT BUT NOT PUT

IT UNDER THE HEADING, AND
MY

RATIONALE FOR THAT IS

WE'RE NOT

INFRASTRUCTURE AND PARKS
AND
OPEN AREAS.

YOU KNOW?

IT'S LIKE, IT'S PART OF

IT, BUT
IT'S NOT EXPLICIT.

SO KIND OF LEANING IN

TOWARDS
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SEPARATE?
JUST MERGE IT.

HONOR IT.

YOU KNOW?
MERGE IT AND HONOR IT?
ALL RIGHT.

EVERYONE OKAY WITH MERGING AND
HONORING?

YEAH, AND TO JUST

SAY, THAT'S

WHAT WE'VE AGREED TO DO WITH

INFRASTRUCTURE, SO

IT'S KIND OF
THE SAME THING.

WE'RE NOT LOSING COMMUNITY
BUILDINGS IN INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT'S A SEPARATE BRANCH, RIGHT?

AND VICE MAYOR,

YOU SEEM TO
BE --
I ALREADY SAID MY THOUGHTS.

IF THE MAJORITY WANTS, IT'S
FINE.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO
THIS

BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS
AS

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER SAID,
WE'RE ALWAYS SILOED.

THIS IS OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY
TO

REALLY, I DON'T KNOW,
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COMMUNICATE.

BUILDING
CONSENSUS.

I'M FINE.

I JUST -- MY THING IS I JUST

DON'T WANT IT TO BE

BRUSHED

ASIDE, BUT A IT IS AN ISSUE HERE

WHETHER SOME PEOPLE

SEE IT OR

NOT IN THE COMMUNITY, IT IS AN

ISSUE, AND I'VE SPENT TOO
MUCH

OF MY TIME OVER THE LAST FEW

DAYS TALKING TO

COMMUNITY

MEMBERS WHO ARE VERY

FRUSTRATED

BY THIS SITUATION

SO THAT'S WHY

I JUST DON'T -- IT'S FRESH ON
MY

MIND, AND LISTENING
TO

EVERYBODY, I KNOW IT'S ON OTHER
PEOPLE'S MINDS TOO.

WHATEVER WE DO, AS LONG AS IT'S

NOT BRUSHED UNDER THE RUG, I'M
FINE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, MAYOR, AS I UNDERSTAND
IT,

THE GOAL AREA IS PUBLIC SAFETY

AND IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT PART
OF

DEALING WITH PUBLIC SAFETY
IS

ADDRESSING ISSUES RELATED TO
HOMELESSNESS.

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DOES THAT SOUND
RIGHT,
COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON?
I SEE A HEAD NOD.

THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

AND SAME AS

INFRASTRUCTURE,
WHICH WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED.

SUBHEADINGS, RIGHT?

DOES THAT
SOUND RIGHT?
OKAY.

VICE MAYOR, YOU ALL RIGHT WITH
THAT?
I'M FINE.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER?
COUNCIL MEMBER MAURER?
THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE THING.

WE CAN
COLLABORATE.

GOT
TO COLLABORATE.

THIS FEELING IS GOOD.

OKAY, SO, WHERE ARE WE LEFT NOW
THEN?

OH, WE VOTED FOR COMMUNITY
VITALITY.

ARE WE GOING SO
HAVE

HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION

UNDER LONG-TERM FISCAL
SUSTAINABILITY?

THUMBS UP OR THUMBS
DOWN.

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DOWN.

I VOICED I WOULD

LEAVE IT

SEPARATE AND ADD A SEVENTH BOX

FOR VITALITY, BUT THAT'S JUST MY
VOTE.

I'LL GO
WITH THE GROUP.

OKAY.

VICE MAYOR?

I THOUGHT WE WERE
JUST

TALKING ABOUT THE
HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION.

YOU SAID VITALITY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

I UNDERSTOOD WE'RE
ADDING
VITALITY TO BE A SEVENTH BOX.

I'M STILL IN FAVOR OF

KEEPING
HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION.

WELL, I

GUESS IF HOMELESSNESS IS

IN PUBLIC SAFETY NOW, WE'RE JUST
SIX BOXES.

THAT'S FINE.

BUT I WAS -- I WAS

ALREADY
VOICED MY OPINION.

I WAS IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT.

I THINK WE SHOULD DO A THUMBS
UP, THUMBS DOWN.

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SO, YOU WOULD BE THUMBS UP
WITH KEEPING THE HIGHPERFORMING
ORGANIZATION.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON?

YOU ASKED TWO DIFFERENT
QUESTIONS.

YOU SAID, WOULD IT GO
UNDER
LONG-TERM FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY?
NOW YOU CHANGED THE QUESTION.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE

ALL THUMBS UP AND DOWN TO
THE
RIGHT QUESTION.

YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE
THE

QUESTION WAS, IF WE WANT

TO KEEP

HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION AS
A STAND-ALONE?

IT SOUNDS

LIKE, YES, COUNCIL
MEMBER HINTON?
KEEP IT STAND-ALONE?
THAT'S
FINE.

VICE
MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT UNDER
LONG-TERM FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE IT
UNDER

LONG-TERM FISCAL
SUSTAINABILITY.

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COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER?
I DON'T CARE.

OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER MAURER?

I WOULD KEEP I WANT AS A
STAND-ALONE THING.

THEN, WE NEED --

COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER, YOU

HAVE TO --

MAYOR, IF I MAY, AND I GUESS

THAT'S WHY YOU BRING IN A THIRD
PARTY.

YOU KNOW, TO TAKE SOMETHING --

IT'S EITHER A GOAL FOR THE

COUNCIL THAT EITHER

RISES TO THE

LEVEL THAT IT'S AN

IMPORTANT

GOAL OR IT DOESN'T, WHICH IS

FINE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE LIMITED

RESOURCES, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH

YOU CAN DO AND YOU'RE HAVING
TO

SET SOME PRIORITIES HERE,
BUT

YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY HAVE
YOUR

CAKE AND EAT IT TOO BY
MOVING

SOMETHING UP UNDER

SOMETHING

ELSE AND PRETENDING THAT
YOU'RE

STILL GOING TO BE ABLE TO
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ACHIEVE IT.

SO, I THINK THE COUNCIL,

YOU OWE

IT TO YOURSELVES TO BE HONEST,

IF SOMETHING IS NOT

RISING TO

THE LEVEL OF A GOAL FOR, YOU

KNOW, FOCUS FOR THE NEXT YEAR
OR

WHATEVER THE

TERM IS DECIDED,
THEN SO BE IT.

AND I THINK IT'S QUITE A

STRETCH

TO SAY,

YES, YOU CAN RATIONALIZE

SOME OF THE HIGH-PERFORMING

ORGANIZATIONAL ELEMENTS MAY

RELATE TO LONG-TERM FISCAL

SUSTAINABILITY, THEY MAY
NOT,

BUT I THINK REALLY THE QUESTION

IS, DOES THAT RISE TO THE LEVEL
OF A COUNCIL GOAL OR NOT?

I'M GOING TO

SAY, LIKE, IT
CAN STAND ON ITS OWN.

AND THEN WE

CAN WORK ON

PRIORITIES AND STRATEGIES AFTER
THAT.

BUT I THINK TO HAVE A FUNCTIONAL

TOWN, WE SHOULD HAVE A
HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION.

THAT DETERMINES MOST OF THE
OTHER THINGS.

OKAY.

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SO, IT SEEMED LIKE EVERYONE

WAS WANTING
TO KEEP IT STANDALONE

EXCEPT FOR THE VICE MAYOR
AND
MYSELF.

DOES THAT SEEM RIGHT?
YEAH.

DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A
LITTLE
MORE

TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHY WE'D
LIKE TO KEEP IT?
WOULD THAT HELP?

SOMETIMES I THINK
MORE

INFORMATION IS
HELPFUL.

YEAH, TO DO

COLLABORATIVE,
YES.

CAN I SPEAK TO THAT?
YES.

SO, THE ISSUE
IS

HIGH-PERFORMING

ORGANIZATION,

AND I'M LOOKING AT, WITH THE

FIRE MERGER, THE CITY IS NEEDING

TO MOVE THE BUILDING

DEPARTMENT

INTO CITY HALL, AND THERE'S A

LOT OF SCANNING THAT NEEDS TO BE

DONE, SO THAT -- IF THAT'S --

THAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY PROJECT
FOR
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THAT HIGH-PERFORMING

ORGANIZATION, GETTING
SOME

THINGS DONE THAT THEY

NEED TO
GET DONE.

THE EMERGENCY

PREPARATION, MAYBE
THAT GOES UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY.

JUST MOVING THAT

BUILDING TO
CITY HALL IS A BIG PROJECT.

THE I.T. CONTRACT IS A
BIG

PROJECT THAT WOULD -- COUNCIL
APPROVED THAT A MONTH AGO OR SO.

SO, THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS
AS TO WHY YOU KEEP IT.

AS A PRIORITY.

BECAUSE I THINK, AS A

COUNCIL,

WE WANT TO SUPPORT OUR STAFF
AND

HAVE THE STAFF FEEL THEY
HAVE

OUR SUPPORT FOR GETTING
THINGS
DONE

TO KEEP THE ORGANIZATION IN
GOOD SHAPE.

SO,

THAT'S MY PITCH FOR WHY I
WOULD KEEP IT.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THE
ISSUE?

IT SEEMS LIKE THE

CONSENSUS,
VICE

MAYOR, IS THAT WE KEEP IT
ALONE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, IF WE KEEP IT ALONE,
THEN,
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WE'VE MERGED -- NOW WE'RE DOWN
TO
SIX, RIGHT?
OKAY, SO, WE'RE CLEAR.

SOMEBODY'S TAKING NOTES?
CORRECT, MAYOR.

IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THE
CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL.

YES.

OKAY.

SO, MAYOR, ACCORDING TO
OUR

PLAYBOOK FOR THE DAY, WE WOULD

NOW HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL

OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

BEFORE TALKING

A LITTLE BIT

FURTHER ABOUT POTENTIAL
STRATEGIES.

RIGHT.

AND I DEFINITELY JUST

WANT TO

TOUCH BASE WITH STAFF, TOO,

BECAUSE IT'S ALL GREAT FOR US
TO

TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT THE ACTUAL

IMPLEMENTATION, BECAUSE
WE'RE

JUST LANDED ON GOALS, THEN
WE'RE

GOING TO TALK
ABOUT STRATEGIES.

THEN, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
PRIORITIES.

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AND THEN, HOPEFULLY, WE'RE GOING

TO DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK

WITH A PLAN, A PLAN TO

IMPLEMENT

THE GOALS AND
THE STRATEGIES.

SO, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

SO, I JUST WANT TO TOUCH
BASE

WITH THE STAFF THAT

ARE GOING TO
BE DOING THIS.

SO,

DON, WHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS
ABOUT WHERE WE LANDED?

I'M GOOD WITH WHERE WE
ARE AT
THIS POINT.

AND I THINK IT'S REALLY

COUNCIL

PREFERENCE IF YOU WANT TO
DO

PUBLIC COMMENT NOW OR WAIT UNTIL
AFTER THE NEXT SECTION.

I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE TO

LAUNCH INTO

THE NEXT SECTION OF

THE AGENDA IF YOU'RE READY TO DO
THAT.

OKAY.

I SEE COUNCIL

MEMBER HINTON, BUT
I WANT TO GO TO MARY NEXT.

I WOULD PROBABLY OPEN FOR

PUBLIC COMMENT

RIGHT NOW ONLY

BECAUSE BEFORE YOU

GO IN AND

MAKE THOSE GOALS -- AND THE

STRATEGIES, YOU'RE GOING TO
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WANT

TO HEAR -- YOU COULD WANT
TO

HEAR AGAIN FROM THE PUBLIC, EVEN

THOUGH A LOT OF THEM SPOKE

ALREADY ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD
LIKE TO SEE.

I WOULD RECOMMEND OPENING IT
UP
RIGHT
NOW.

OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON, SORRY.

AND I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY
THE OPPOSITE.

I FEEL LIKE WE HAVEN'T
GOTTEN

FAR ENOUGH TO OPEN IT UP

TO PUBLIC

COMMENT AND WE ARE ONLY
OPENING UP ONE MORE TIME.

WE HEARD FROM THEM AND WE

HAVEN'T PLACED ANYTHING
BEHIND
THESE BROAD GOALS YET.

I WOULD SUGGEST

MOVING PUBLIC

COMMENT BACK WOULD BE
MY
PREFERRED METHOD.

JUST AN
OUTLINE.

AND I WAS GOING TO SAY THE
OPPOSITE.

NOW THAT WE'VE SET WHAT
OUR

GOALS WOULD BE, IT WOULD

BE GOOD

FOR US TO GIVE US FEEDBACK
ON
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WHAT THEY THINK OF OUR

DECISION
TO PRIORITIZE THIS FOR THE CITY.

IF WE COME -- IN MY OPINION, IF

WE COME UP WITH -- WE SET THE

GOALS AND THEN WE MAKE ALL THE

DECISIONS, THEN WE'RE

ALREADY

DOWN -- TWO MILES DOWN THE
PATH,

AND WHAT IF WE HAVE A LOT
OF

PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH --
THAT'S MY THOUGHT.

YEAH.

I AGREE.

BUT COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER?

I WAS WONDERING IF WE HAVE
TO

FULLY COMMIT TO THESE GOALS IN

THIS PERIOD OR, LIKE, IF WE
HAVE

THIS, IS THERE A -- STILL SOME

CHANCE FOR THE PUBLIC TO

COMMENT

FOR, LIKE, MAYBE ANOTHER
WEEK

AND THEN WE BRING THIS BACK
UP
AND APPROVE THE GOALS?
I'LL
DEFER TO MARY.

SO, TWO THINGS.

I'M GOING TO LET --

OR DEFER TO
ALEX.

I DON'T KNOW.

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PUBLIC COMMENT, REALLY QUICK.

IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL, OF
COURSE.

WE ARE A LITTLE AHEAD OF THE
SCHEDULE.

THERE AREN'T MANY PEOPLE
LEFT
ONLINE OR INPERSON IF YOU

WANTED TO DO

PUBLIC COMMENT
TWICE.

YOU COULD DO THAT ALSO.

WELL, THAT'S NICE.

OKAY.

SO, NOW, WHERE
ARE WE?

I'M COOL WITH THE SHORT PUBLIC
COMMENT NOW.

OR TWICE?
FINE.

YEAH, I KIND OF AM TOO

BECAUSE I KIND OF AGREE
WITH

VICE MAYOR AND THE FACT THAT
WE

TALKED ABOUT GOALS BUT WHAT
IF
THE PUBLIC HATES THEM?

I'D RATHER WANT TO KNOW
THAT

BEFORE WE INVEST TIME TO TALK

ABOUT STRATEGIES AND
THE
PRIORITIZATION AND ALL THE REST.

BUT COUNCIL MEMBER MAURER, WHERE
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ARE YOU?
OKAY.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON, YOU'RE

OKAY WITH DOING TWO BRIEF PUBLIC
COMMENTS?
IS THAT WHERE WE ARE?

WE'RE GOING TO DO

A LITTLE BIT
OF BRIEF PUBLIC COMMENT, MARY.

I WILL ADDRESS IT.

I WANTED TO ADDRESS COUNCIL

MEMBER CARTER'S

QUESTION

REGARDING WHETHER WE HAVE
TO

ADOPT THESE
TODAY OR NOT.

FOR US TO BRING AN ACTION PLAN

BACK AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO

ACCOMPLISH THIS,

WHETHER IT'S

ONE YEAR OR TWO

YEARS, I WOULD

SAY, YES, WE WOULD NEED THAT
DIRECTION TODAY TO GO OUT.

I WOULD LIKE IT FINALIZED
TOO.

IT TOOK A LONG TIME FOR ALL
OF

US TO CARVE OUT TIME FOR
THIS,

AND KIND OF LIKE TO HAVE A
PLAN
MOVING FORWARD.

MARY, IF YOU COULD

CONDUCT
PUBLIC COMMENT.

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SO, THIS IS FOR

THE SECOND
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A

PUBLIC COMMENT, AGAIN, PLEASE

RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY, AND
I

WILL DO THE CHAMBERS FIRST, AND
THEN I WILL GO US.

I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM AFTER.

HELLO.

I'M GOING TO SURPRISE YOU BY NOT

TALKING ABOUT CLIMATE
RESILIENCE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COMMENT ON
THE PROCESS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS LONG

HOURS YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING
IN
TODAY.

BUT I DO THINK IT IS A SHAME
TO

PUT HOMELESSNESS UNDER PUBLIC

SAFETY BECAUSE HOMELESSNESS IS
A

COMPREHENSIVE PROBLEM THAT IS

NOT ONLY A PUBLIC SAFETY

PROBLEM

WHEN YOU ADDRESS IT AS A PUBLIC

SAFETY PROBLEM, YOU LEAVE
OUT
THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES.

IT BECOMES EASY TO VICTIMBLAME

BY CONSIDERING, AS OUR

CONSULTANT ALREADY MENTIONED,
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THAT THE RISK IS POSED BY THE

MEMBERS OF THE UNHOUSED

COMMUNITY INSTEAD

OF TO THE

MEMBERS OF THE

UNHOUSED

COMMUNITY AND IT HAS A

DIFFERENT

STRATEGY THAN A LOT OF
OTHER
PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES.

SO, I WOULD SUGGEST KEEPING
THAT

AS ITS OWN BOX AND

PERHAPS

ADOPTING COUNCIL MEMBER

MAURER'S

SUGGESTION THAT THE RESTORATION

OF PUBLIC TRUST IS ACTUALLY VERY

IMPORTANT THING
THAT

HIGH-PERFORMING

ORGANIZATION

WOULD BE A

GREAT STRATEGY
TOWARDS ACHIEVING.

BUT THE RESTORATION OF TRUST
WOULD BE THE GOAL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

OLIVER, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES,
UNMUTED.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE
THE TIMER?
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I CAN,
YEAH.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

YEAH, JUST A COMMENT
ABOUT
PROCESS.

ALL WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE
ON

ZOOM FOR

A VERY LONG TIME IS THE
SLIDE WITH THE GOAL AREAS.

IN THIS TYPE OF

MEETING, IT

WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IF
THE

SIX BUCKETS WERE ACTUALLY BEING

POPULATED, YOU KNOW, ON THE

SCREEN THAT WE COULD SEE
SO YOU

COULD SEE WHAT WAS IN EACH

BUCKET.

I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION SO
I

KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S BEEN

DISCUSSED, BUT IT WOULD BE

HELPFUL, I THINK, FOR YOU IN
THE

ROOM AS WELL IF YOU COULD

ACTUALLY SEE WHAT YOU DECIDED
TO

PUT WHERE BEFORE YOU PROCEED TO
GET INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT.

SO, THAT'S MY MAIN COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

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PLEASE?
I FORGOT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.

JUDITH GILBERT.

I'VE DONE A LOT OF THESE IN
MY
LIFE.

IF YOU GUYS COULD ATTACH A VERB

INSTEAD OF ALL THESE
NOUNS,
LIKE, WHAT'S IT SUPPOSED TO DO?

NOW, I DO AGREE THAT

HOMELESSNESS IS A COMPREHENSIVE

ISSUE, SO I WOULD MAKE IT A

SEVENTH.

I LOVE THE COMMUNITY VITALITY.

THAT WAS SORT OF THE DIRECTION
OF MY PREVIOUS COMMENT.

SO, I THINK THAT THESE ARE

PRETTY WELL MASSAGED, BUT
I

STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT

THEY'RE
SUPPOSED TO DO.

WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE
SUCCESSFUL?

AND THAT'S AT THE
GOAL LEVEL.

THAT'S NOT AT THE TACTIC LEVEL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

I'LL GO BACK
OUT TO ZOOM.

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ROBERT, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?

YES, CAN YOU
HEAR ME?
I CAN
HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES.

GREAT.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

OKAY.

A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.

ONE, WATER AND SEWER.

ABOUT 30% OF THE CITY'S

GENERAL

FUND EXPENDITURES ARE FUNDED BY

RATE PAYERS.

THE CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATED
48%

OF THE EXPENSES IN THEIR
BUDGET

THAT ARE ALLOCATABLE TO
WATER
AND SEWER.

YET, IN THE LAST TWO
HOURS,

SANDER RAISED IT AS A POTENTIAL

ISSUE THAT WAS NOT
BEING

ADDRESSED BY THE

PRIORITIES OR

THE GOAL AREAS, AND IT WAS

DISMISSED OR PASSED OVER AND
FORGOTTEN ABOUT.

NONE OF THESE GOAL AREAS ARE

ADDRESSING THE PROCESS OF

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DELIVERING SAFE WATER AND
SEWER

SERVICES AT A REASONABLE COST
TO
PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SEBASTOPOL.

IT'S NOT AN ISSUE ABOUT

FINANCIAL LONGEVITY BECAUSE
THE

WATER AND

SEWER IS PAID FOR BY A
DIFFERENT FUND.

IT'S PAID BY RATE PAYERS.

THE EXPENSES ARE SUPPOSED TO
BE

EXPENSES FOR DELIVERING WATER
AND SEWER SERVICES.

SO, THEORETICALLY, THERE IS
NO

QUESTION THAT THIS IS GOING
TO

BE SUSTAINABLE,

MUCH MORE SO
THAN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S JUST

ANOTHER EXAMPLE -- EITHER --

YOU'RE CHARGING RATE

PAYERS A

LOT OF MONEY FOR GENERAL
FUND

FOCUS AND ATTENTION, WHICH YOU

DON'T GIVE TO IT, OR

SOMETHING

NEEDS TO CHANGE AND YOU NEED TO
START PAYING ATTENTION.

EVENTUALLY, WHEN WE GET

SOME BAD

WATER SOME PLACE OR A SEWER

SPILL THAT CREATES A REALLY BIG

PROBLEM, I GUESS THEN YOU'LL PAY
ATTENTION.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE
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HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GET A LOT
OF

VISIBILITY IN HOW

CITY WORK IS

DONE BUT JUST THE LAST

MEETING,

REMEMBER, YOU HEARD THAT IT TOOK
17 HOURS TO PREPARE A
STAFF

REPORT FOR A CITY COUNCIL

MEETING ON THE CLIMATE ACTION
COMMITTEE ISSUE.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN MORE
THAN

FIVE, I WOULD SAY, AND THAT
WOULD BE A LOT.

SO, ALL OF YOU WERE

AGHAST AT

THIS AS
WELL.

I THINK IT RAISES THE

QUESTION,

HOW EFFICIENT IS THE WAY THE
CITY DOES THINGS?
I'M NOT CRITICIZING ANYBODY.

I'VE WORKED IN A LOT OF

ORGANIZATIONS, AND UNTIL YOU SIT

DOWN AND DRAW A PROCESS MAP FOR

WHAT YOU DO AND LOOK AT IT,
YOU

DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME
YOU'RE

WASTING WHEN

YOU DO WORK AND HOW
MUCH TIME CAN BE SAVED.

ANOTHER ISSUE

ON THIS, RELATED

TO WATER AND SAFETY, I JUST
WENT
THROUGH THE ALLOCATIONS.

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THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT ALLOCATES
$365,000 TO BILLING WATER
AND
SEWER RATE PAYERS.

YOU BREAK THAT DOWN.

THAT'S $26 COST FOR EVERY BILL
THAT'S SENT TO A RESIDENT.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

IF YOU GUYS WANT TO HIRE ME,
I'D
BE GLAD TO DO IT FOR $369,000.

HELP ME OUT THERE.

THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

YOU GOT TO
ADDRESS IT.

THANKS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT,L

NEXT,LY I WILL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.

SEEING NONE,

I WILL GO BACK OUT
TO ZOOM.

KATE, UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

THANK YOU,
MARY.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

I THINK THE GOALSETTING IS

GOOD, BUT I THINK WHAT'S
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MISSING

FROM THE FRAMEWORK IS ONE,
I

AGREE WITH ROBERT THAT WATER AND

SEWER ENTERPRISE FUNDS

NEED TO

BE AT THE HELM BECAUSE, A, RATE

PAYERS ARE PAYING A HUGE AMOUNT

OF THE GENERAL FUND, AND IT
IS

MORE OR LESS UNAUDITED AND

UNACCOUNTED
FOR.

THERE'S THE ALLOCATION

SYSTEM,

BUT I THINK YOU WILL

FIND, IN

THE PUBLIC COMMENTS,
THAT

THERE'S A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT
IS

ABOUT THE ALLOCATION SYSTEM
AND

THAT IS --

IT DOESN'T REALLY

SEEM TO BE REFLECTIVEREFLECTIVE
THE --

THE CITY, IN OTHER WORDS,
THE

CITY SEEMS TO BE CHARGING RATE

PAYERS MUCH MORE FOR TIME
BY

CITY STAFF THAN THE RATE PAYERS

MIGHT BE GETTING, ESPECIALLY IN
TERMS OF BILLING.

AN EXAMPLE OF THIS I

HAVE IS

THAT AT SEVERAL OF
THE

DEPARTMENT HEAD

REPORTS THAT ARE

GIVEN AT THE END OF CITY

COUNCIL

MEETINGS, THERE'S OFTEN
PUBLIC

WORKS AND ENGINEERING

REPORTS

THAT HAVE NO MENTION OF
THE

WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM,
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EVEN

THOUGH IT APPEARS

THAT THERE'S

FOUR DEDICATED EMPLOYEES PLUS
ALMOST
$1.7 MILLION DEDICATED TO
WATER AND SEWER WORK.

SO, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT NEEDS

TO BE HIGH ON THE PRIORITY
LIST

IS MAKING THE TRANSPARENCY
ON

THE WATER AND SEWER ENTERPRISE

FUND, ITS REVENUES, ITS

EXPENSES, AND

INFRASTRUCTURE

NEED TO

BE VERY HIGH ON THE
LIST.

AND THE SECOND THING IS,

SEBASTOPOL REALLY NEEDS TO

UNDERSTAND WHAT SERVICES ARE

BEING PAID FOR BY PROPERTY

TAXESAND

BUSINESSES VERSUS THAT GO

DIRECTLY TO CITIZEN HERE,
VERSUS

WHAT SERVICES LIKE THE
SENIOR

CENTER AND HOMELESS SERVICES
ARE

BEING USED MORE BY PEOPLE LIVING

IN THE COUNTY OR ARE SERVICES TO
THIS COUNTY DIRECTLY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

IF THERE'S ANYONE
IN CHAMBERS?

SEEING NONE, I WILL GO BACK OUT
TO ZOOM.

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MARY, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF?
YES.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO
ME
IS

POLICE, FIRE, WATER AND SEWER
AND ROADS.

AND I FEEL LIKE IF YOU
REALLY

WANT TO GET THE PUBLIC'S TRUST

BACK, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT WATER

AND SEWER AND HOW MUCH WE'RE

PAYING, AND HOW MUCH WE
ARE

PAYING FOR WATER AND

SEWER AND

HOW MUCH WE'RE PAYING FOR OTHER
THINGS.

ONCE THIS IS REALLY LOOKED
AT, I

THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE

REALLY, REALLY UPSET AT
WHAT

THEY'RE PAYING, BECAUSE
NOTNOT

EVERYONE CAN WATER AND
SEWER.

THE OTHER THING THAT I
HAVE

GOTTEN A LITTLE UPSET ABOUT
IS I

PAY A LOT OF PROPERTY TAX,
AND

I'M FINDING OUT THAT THERE ARE
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MANY, MANY PEOPLE

THAT DON'T PAY
ANY PROPERTY TAX.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO
SEE THAT.

I'D LIKE

TO SEE WHO'S PAYING
PROPERTY TAXES AND WHO ISN'T.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COULD
HAPPEN EITHER.

AND THE OTHER THING, I'VE

COMPLAINED ABOUT, AND I
KNOW

OTHER PEOPLE HAVE, IS EVERY
ONCE

IN A WHILE, BIG TRUCKS PULL UP

AT THAT WATER PLACE OVER
BY

WHERE YOU ARE NOW, AND I
THINK
WE'VE ASKED FOR THIS FOR YEARS.

WHO IS TAKING OUR WATER?
HOW MUCH?
AND ARE WE BEING PAID FOR IT?
THANK YOU.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

THANK YOU, MARY.

BRINGING IT ALL BACK UP TO
THE

DAIS TO SEE IF THERE
ARE

THOUGHTS NOW THAT WE HAVE
HEARD
FROM THE PUBLIC.

COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER.

YES.

AS THE ENTERPRISE FUND
IS
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SOMETHING THAT I AM
DEEPLY

CONCERNED ABOUT, AND HAVE

STUDIED, I HAD PUT IT UNDER

INFRASTRUCTURE, SO TO THE

PUBLIC, I DON'T WANT THEM TO
BE

CONFUSED ABOUT ME NOT LETTING IT

GO, BUT I DIDN'T

REALIZE THAT

MAYBE IT

SHOULD BE ONE OF THE
TOP GOALS.

BUT I WOULD SUPPORT ADDING AN

ADDITIONAL ONE TO THE ENTERPRISE
FUND.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO

SUGGEST

THAT WE NOT CLOSE THE
DRAPES.

EXCUSE ME.

WE

HAD ASKED FOR THE CURTAINS TO
BE OPEN.

LESLIE.

PLEASE.

IT'S FINE.

I'D RATHER DO THAT THAN SIT IN
A
CAVE.

MY PREFERENCE IS TO HAVE
THE
DRAPES
REMAIN OPEN.

OKAY.

I CAN BRING IT TO HERE,
BUT
THAT'S AS FAR.

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I CAN PUSH THIS ONE BACK,
BUT
THIS ONE AFFECTS THE CAMERA.

IT HAS TO STAY.

OKAY.

I WAS JUST REACTING TO THE

CURTAINS BECAUSE I HAD

ASKED FOR
THEM TO STAY OPEN.

AGREED.

AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER

HINTON,
SORRY.

I CAN APPRECIATE

HEARING FROM

THE PUBLIC, BUT I'M
NOT

INTERESTED IN ADDING MORE
OVERRIDING GOALS.

I THINK LIKE A NUMBER OF US

WE'VE BROUGHT UP
THESE

SUBCATEGORIES AND WE'RE NOT GOING

TO LOSE THEM.

I THINK WE SHOULD STICK -- MY

VOTE WOULD BE TO STICK WITH THE

CATEGORIES WE'VE HEARD AND

ASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE
NOT

MISSING THOSE SUB

GOALS, WHICH

WE ALL HAVE A NUMBER OF THEM,

AND LET'S KEEP GOING IN THE

PROCESS AND MAKE SURE IT'S ON
THE SUB GOAL FOR SURE.

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YEAH, IF I MAY,

MAYOR, TO

COUNCIL MEMBER

CARTER'S POINT,

PART OF YOUR LONG-TERM

FINANCIAL

SUSTAINABILITY AND THIS

PERHAPS

COMES AT A DIRECTION THAT
SOME

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FROM THE

OPPOSITE END BUT GETS TO THE SAME

POINT IS TO TAKE A LOOK
AT

YOUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND THE

COSTS THAT ARE ALLOCATED
TO
THEM.

THERE'S WELL

ESTABLISHED

METHODOLOGIES FOR CONDUCTING THE

STUDIES TO DETERMINE

HOW MUCH

YOU CAN ALLOCATE, WHAT CHARGES

YOU CAN APPLY TO THOSE FOR THE

BENEFIT OF THE GENERAL FUND
THAT

PROVIDES CENTRAL SERVICES,
SO

THAT'S NORMALLY PART OF
YOUR

LONG-TERM FINANCIAL

SUSTAINABILITY PLAN IS TO
ENSURE

THAT NON-GENERAL FUNDS
ARE

PAYING THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT

AND IT'S DETERMINED THROUGH A
STUDY.

SO, I GUESS TO THE SAME POINT.

GETS TO THE SAME POINT
THAT

YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF
THE

COMMENTERS
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MAKE.

OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT

CHANGING

ANY OF THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE
NOW ON THE BIG PIECE OF PAPER?

LOOKING TO GO TO THE LEFT, LOOK
TO
THE RIGHT.

NO.

SO, IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON,
I

JUST WANT TO MAKE

SURE THAT

WE'RE CLEAR ON WHEREWHERE

ENDING UP BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE
A
GOAL.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
STRATEGIES.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT

PRIORITIZING THE

STRATEGIES AND

WE ARE GOING

TO DIRECT BACK TO

STAFF IN ORDER TO HAVE A PLAN TO
IMPLEMENT THEM.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE

DIRECTIVES

BACK TO YOU TO IMPLEMENT THESE

GOALS, STRATEGIES, ORGANIZATION
OF THE STRATEGIES.

IS THAT RIGHT?
MARY?
SAME?
OKAY.

NO CONCERNS FROM STAFF?
WE'RE ALL CLEAR.

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YES.

WE'RE ALL CLEAR.

ALL
RIGHT.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR MYSELF.

I JUST WONDERED,

WHEN WE'RE

WORKING THROUGH THIS, ARE WE
GOING TO HAVE A SLIDE UP THERE?

TYPICALLY, I WOULD HAVE A SLIDE

UP THERE AND HAVE ALL
THE

DIFFERENT BOXES EVERYONE
AGREED
UPON.

IT'S USUALLY A WORKING

DOCUMENT

SO THAT NOW WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT
THE BOXES ARE THAT WE GREED AGREED TO.

WE CAN DO THUMBS UP, THUMBS
DOWN
FOR OUR PRIORITIES.

THE SLIDE THAT YOU HAD UP
THERE

EARLIER WITH THE SIX BOXES, DO

WE HAVE ONE THAT WE CAN FIX
SO

THAT WE ALL KNOW WHAT BOXES WE
AGREED TO?

AND THE PUBLIC

KNOWS WHAT WE'RE

TALKING ABOUT SINCE THEY'RE ON
ZOOM?

AND THEN, AS WE GO THROUGH --
TO
EACH BOX, WE SET THE PRIORITIES.

WE DO THUMBS UP, THUMBS
DOWN,
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AND MOVE THROUGH THOSE BOXES SO
ON AND SO FORTH.

WE HAVE THIS DOCUMENT.

IT'S NOT ORGANIZED BY THE BOXES,

BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE

BOXES WERE GOING TO
BE.

THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING, DO WE

HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THOSE
BOXES?
NO.

AND PUT THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES
INTO THEM?

NO, WE ALL AGREED
ON.

WE TOOK HOMELESSNESS, TOOK
THAT
OUT.

WE DID COMMUNITY VITALITY.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING WITH

HERE AND

WHAT WE'RE WORKING FROM
IS RIGHT THERE.

I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT
WE'RE DOING.

OUR FORMAT HADN'T

ENVISIONED
DOING ANYTHING DYNAMIC.

I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN AND
TYPE

AWAY, BUT THAT WASN'T OUR --

I JUST WONDERED.

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WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON

ZOOM, AND NOBODY CAN SEE
THAT
WAY OVER THERE.

WHEN YOU WATCH ON ZOOM, YOU

CAN'T EVEN SEE THAT PART OF THE
ROOM.

I'M JUST WONDERING

HOW WE'RE
DOING

THIS SO THAT EVERYBODY
UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

IF THE COUNCIL WOULD
LIKE,

I'M HAPPY TO THROW A
WORD

DOCUMENT UP HERE OR OPEN MY

POWERPOINT AND START TYPING AWAY

IF IT'S EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO

RELATE TO
IT.

I JUST THINK THAT WE HAVE A

LOT OF PEOPLE SITTING ON ZOOM

AND I'M TELLING YOU, THAT
CORNER, WE CAN'T SEE IT ON ZOOM.

I WOULD LIKE THAT TOO, SO IF

YOU COULD START A WORD

PERFECT

OR WORD DOCUMENT AND

THEN TYPE

BECAUSE EACH OF US WILL HAVE OUR

DIFFERENT STRATEGIES,

BUT AT THE

END OF THE DAY, WE'RE GOING
TO

HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THEM
UNDER
EACH ONE.

WHICHEVER ONE COUNCIL WANTS
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TO

DISCUSS FIRST, BUT COUNCIL

MEMBER CARTER, DID I SEE YOUR
HAND?
IT IS APRIL 1st, AND I WAS

GOING TO PLAY A JOKE BUT --

YOU'RE LIKE THE NEW KID ON
THE BLOCK OR SOMETHING.

WHAT?
A JOKE?
LEVITY IS GOOD.

I'LL PLAY ALONG.

SHOULD WE START WITH A
BLANK

WORD DOCUMENT, PUBLIC

SAFETY,

AND THEN START ADDING TO

STRATEGIES?

HOWEVER WE DO SO IT'S

VISIBLE, WE CAN ALL
SEE IT.

WE GO TO THE TROUBLE OF
DOING

ZOOM BUT IF WE DON'T DO

ANYTHING

THAT ANYONE CAN SEE, IT BECOMES
CHALLENGING.

IT'S HARD ENOUGH SITTING UP

HERE, BUT IF WE HAVE -- OR IF WE

HAD THE MARKER BOARD UP HERE
AND

SOMEONE WAS MARKERING,
THAT'S
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FINE TOO.

I JUST WANT IT TO BE, SO THAT

EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE

WE'RE AT AND WE CAN KEEP TRACK
OF IT ALL.

IT GETS TOO CONFUSING OTHERWISE

BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT
IDEAS ON PRIORITIES AND SUCH.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY
KEPT

TRACK OF --

I'M USED TO DOING
THIS IN A DYNAMIC FORMAT.

WE DO HAVE THIS DOCUMENT

THAT'S PART OF THE PACKAGE

THAT'S AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WHO
ARE NOT HERE.

THAT DOESN'T HELP WITH
WHAT

WE'RE DOING
RIGHT NOW.

WE CHANGED THINGS ALREADY.

I THINK

IT'S ESSENTIALLY

GOING TO BE OUR FOCUS FOR
THE
NEXT HOUR OR SO.

I'M THINKING WITH THE VICE

MAYOR AND THE FACT THAT WE COULD

JUST OPEN UP A

WORD DOCUMENT,

WHICH I THINK OUR

FACILITATOR'S

DOING, JUST TO HAVE ONE
PAGE

THAT SAYS PUBLIC

SAFETY, THEN
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ALL OF US ARE GOING TO THROW
OUT

OUR SUGGESTED

STRATEGIES, AND

THEN AT THE END, WE'RE GOING
TO

PRIORITIZE
THEM.

RIGHT.

WE'LL DO THUMBS UP, THUMBS
DOWN,

AND THEN WE CAN ALL SEE WHERE
WE'RE AT WITH THAT.

IT'S ORGANIZED.

THE PUBLIC CAN SEE IT AS WELL,

AND THEN WE'RE ALL ON THE
SAME
PAGE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M USED TO DOING
IN
A GOAL-SETTING.

I DO

THIS EVERY YEAR FOR THE
LAST TEN YEARS.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

OUR FACILITATOR

SEEMS TO BE
ON POINT THERE.

TRYING TO MAKE IT LIVE
AS YOU

WOULD SAY BECAUSE I

DO AGREE

THAT KEEPING UP WITH THE
GOALS,

BECAUSE WE MAY LOSE TRACK, IS
A
GOOD THING.

IT'S JUST EASY.

THERE'S SO MUCH DISCUSSION
THAT
GOES ON.

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IT'S EASY ENOUGH TO JUST --

THE FIRST ONE IS PUBLIC
SAFETY, RIGHT?

WELL, I'M LISTING THEM ALL
OUT.

CAN I ASK WHY WE'RE STARTING
WITH PUBLIC SAFETY?

IT WASN'T NUMBER ONE IN THE
BOXES.

WE DON'T HAVE
TO.

I DON'T CARE WHICH YOU
START
WITH.

WE SHOULD

FOLLOW ALONG

WITH --

I WAS FOLLOWING OVER
THERE.

OH.

THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE LOOKING.

OKAY.

I WASN'T.

OKAY.

I HAD NO IDEA WHY YOU WERE WHERE
YOU WERE STARTING.

I'M FINE WITH IF WE WANT TO GO
WITH THAT.

SURE.

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WELL, AND AGAIN, MAYOR,

COUNCIL, THEY WERE NOT IN ANY
PARTICULAR ORDER.

BUT BEFORE WE GET TO

THEM, LET
ME MAKE THEM ALL BIGGER.

I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT
BEFORE

WE STARTED TO SPEAK AT YOUR
PARTICULAR STRATEGIES.

IN YOUR PACKET, THERE'S
A

DOCUMENT THAT SAYS WORKING

DRAFT, CURRENT AND POTENTIAL
PRIORITIES.

I'LL LET THE CITY

MANAGER SPEAK
FOR

HIMSELF IN A MOMENT BUT IT

WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE

STAFF WAS HOPING THAT ONCE
THE

COUNCIL HAD DETERMINED WHAT ITS

GOALS WERE THAT IT MIGHT LOOK AT

THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE THERE'S

ALREADY A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES

THAT ARE EITHER UNDER WAY
OR

HAVE BEEN REQUESTED TO
BE

INITIATED THAT

MAY BUT NOT ALL

OF THEM MAY FALL INTO ONE OF

THESE AREAS.

AND I BELIEVE THE

STAFF WAS

LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM THE

COUNCIL TO PERHAPS GET US
GOING
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IN THIS EFFORT.

IF THE COUNCIL WILL GO

THROUGH
THIS LIST OF ALREADYIDENTIFIED

STRATEGIES AND DETERMINE
WHICH

ONES ARE A PRIORITY AND WHICH
PERHAPS ARE NOT.

THERE'S
A THOUGHT.

THAT'S RATHER SPECIFIC.

WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT BIGGER

THINGS LIKE STRATEGIES OR --
RIGHT.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER

COMMUNITY

VITALITY, ARE THERE INITIATIVES

THAT HAVE ALREADY
BEEN
IDENTIFIED BY THE COUNCIL?

THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED

OR THINGS THAT THE STAFF
IS

ALREADY WORKING ON THAT FALL IN

THAT GOAL

AREA AND THEREFORE

SHOULD BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND
PLACED IN THAT AREA?
NO.

I THINK THE AGREEMENT IS
JUST

TO GO WITH THE BUTCHER BLOCK
BLOCK
ORDER.

WE'RE TO START WITH PUBLIC
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SAFETY.

DOES COUNCIL JUST WANT TO
THROW

OUT THEIR OWN IDEAS AND BUMP
IT

UP AGAINST AT THE END WHAT STAFF
IS SAYING THEY'VE STARTED?

DOES THAT
SOUND RIGHT?
I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION.

VICE MAYOR.

WHEN DO WE IDENTIFY THE ONE
AND THE THREE-YEAR?

AS WE HAVE THESE

DISCUSSIONS --
YES, COUNCIL MEMBER?

I'M GOING TO

REMOVE THE

QUALITY OF A THREE-YEAR FOR SAKE
OF EXPEDITING OUR MISSION HERE.

AND I DON'T SEE

ANYTHING WRONG
WITH THAT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE SOME DEFINITION

ON STRATEGY VERSUS WHAT'S
THETHE
BELOW THAT?
PRIORITY?
LIKE A PROJECT.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE

GETTING
TO PROJECTS.

MARY, YOU KIND OF LAID THIS OUT
AHEAD OF TIME.

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WE GOT GOALS.

WE'RE GOING
TO DISCUSS STRATEGY.

WE'RE GOING TO PRIORITIZE
THE

STRATEGY, AND THEN WE'RE SENDING

IT ALL BACK TO STAFF TO COME
UP

WITH AN ACTION
PLAN.

IS THAT IT?
WE'RE NOT GETTING TO PROJECTS.

STAFF WILL COME BACK WITH

SUGGESTED PROJECTS AS PART OF
THE ACTION PLAN.

THAT IS RIGHT?

NO, THE COUNCIL

CAN DISCUSS

SUCH AS,

LIKE, THE IVES PARK, I
KEEP HEARING.

THERE'S A SPECIFIC

SOMETHING,

THAT'S A PRIORITY THAT COULD

COME BACK AND STAFF WOULD GO

BACK TO SAY, THIS IS HOW --
IF

THE COUNCIL AGREES WITH THAT,
WE

WOULD NEED TO GO BACK TO AN
AFTERPLAN.

I STAND
CORRECTED.

AND A PROJECT COULD BE A
STRATEGY.

FOR INSTANCE, A NEW HOTEL.

THAT'S A PROJECT THAT IS ALSO A
STRATEGY, RIGHT?
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SO, INDIVIDUAL

PROJECTS COULD BE

STRATEGIES OR STRATEGIES COULD

BE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT

PARTICULAR TO A SPECIFIC
PROJECT, RIGHT?

AND THEN THE

COUNCIL IS ASKED TOSET
SET THE OF THOSE.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, A LOT
OF

THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED
IN

PUBLIC COMMENT, THOSE
ARE
PARTICULAR PROJECTS.

EXPANDING YOUR LIBRARY,

BUILDING

A NEW SENIOR CENTER,

PUTTING UP
NEW FENCING.

THESE ARE ALL INDIVIDUAL
PROJECTS.

THE QUESTION IS, DO THEY FALL --

DO THEY MOVE THE NEEDLE ON
ONE

OF THESE GOALS IS AND IS IT
A

HIGH ENOUGH PRIORITY THAT
THE

CITY COUNCIL WANTS THE STAFF TO

SPEND TIME WORKING ON IT OVER

THE COURSE OF THE

NEXT, AND I
WOULD OFFER, ABOUT 12 MONTHS.

IDEALLY, YOU SET YOUR
GOALS

ANNUALLY, ENGAGE IN THIS EVERY
YEAR.

CHANCES ARE YOU DO THIS A
YEAR

FROM NOW, THE GOALS MAY CHANGE A
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LITTLE BIT.

BUT

CERTAIN THINGS,

FINANCIAL

STABILITY IS PROBABLY
A
CONSTANT.

VICE MAYOR, YOU WANTED TO
KNOW ABOUT THE TIME PARAMETER.

DID WE LAND ON ONE
YEAR.

I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR
WE'RE
DOING THE FISCAL YEAR.

FISCAL YEAR.

I'D JUST LIKE TO GET IT
STARTED.

FIRST UP IS THE LONGTERM, FOR

ME, JUST ON MY SCREEN,
IF I'M

LOOKING AT LONG-TERM FISCAL

STAINABILITY, I JUST WANT TO GET

THIS GOING IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE

GOING TO DO THESE
PROJECTS.

SO

ARE WE STARTING

WITH PUBLIC
SAFETY?

I THINK WE DECIDED TO GO HERE

EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT CORRECT
THERE.

WHICH ORDER ARE WE PROCEEDING?

WHAT IS TYPED HERE,

THE BUTCHER
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BLOCK?
WHICH WAY ARE WE GOING?

LET'S JUST GET
STARTED.

I CHOSE LONG-TERM

SUSTAINABILITY BECAUSE IT WAS
THE FIRST BOX.

OKAY.

AND IT'S FIRST ON MY LIST
HERE.

I HAVE FOUR THINGS IN THIS

CATEGORY, AND THE FIRST

THING IS
THE GOAL AND THE INTENTION.

SO, I LOOKED AT -- I HAVE
FOUR

PROJECTS AND I HAVE GOT SIX
OR

SEVEN ACTUALLY INTENTIONS OR

GOALS, AND SO I WAS

THINKING,

DEPENDING ON HOW COUNCIL
FEELS,

MAYBE SOME OF THESE

INTENTIONS

COULD BECOME PART OF
A
RESOLUTION THAT WE COULD ADOPT.

YOU COULD BATCH THEM TOGETHER OR
NOT.

I'LL JUST READ THEM OFF.

THE GOAL INTENTION WOULD BE A
BALANCED BUDGET.

AND THEN, TO MAINTAIN,

IN TERMS

OF SUSTAINABILITY, TO MAINTAIN

THE QUARTERLY
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FINANCIAL

REPORTING AND THE ONE-TIME

ANNUAL LONG-TERM BUDGET
PROJECTIONS.

I THINK THOSE HAVE BEEN
REALLY

HELPFUL AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE
TO SEE THOSE CONTINUE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE

MEASURE PRIORITY SPENDING
BE

REVIEWED AT THE TIME OF THE FULL
COUNCIL BUDGET PROCESS.

SO, WE'RE DECIDING ON THE BUDGET

AND AT THE SAME TIME,
WE'RE

REVIEWING THAT MEASURE
U

SPENDING RESOLUTION TO

MAKE SURE

WE'RE FOLLOWING THE

PRIORITIES

THAT WE HAD SET AS A COUNCIL

LAST YEAR.

AND THEN LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE
TO

SEE AN ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT

COMMITTEE, AND MY

SUGGESTION,

WHICH WOULD BE TO LIMIT STAFF

TIME AND MAYBE WEAVE IT INTO THE

BUDGET COMMITTEE PROCESS, SO

TWICE A YEAR, DO A BIANNUAL

REVIEW OF THE

ENTERPRISE FUNDS

WATER AND SEWER AND SEE IF WE

CAN GET A COUPLE

VOLUNTEERS FROM

THE COMMUNITY TO BE ON
THAT
COMMITTEE.

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SO, IT'S A -- WE FORM
A

COMMITTEE, BUT IT'S

LIKE IN

ADDITION TO THE
BUDGET
COMMITTEE.

THOSE ARE MY FOUR SUGGESTIONS
FOR SUSTAINABILITY.

I'LL ADD TO THAT AT THIS

POINT, NOT TO SAY I CAN'T
ADD
AGAIN.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEES.

I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT STAFF

TIME, AND WE DID TAKE THIS
UP ON

THE DAIS WHEN WE DISCUSSED
THE
TAX MEASURE.

AND WE DID NOT PUT IT IN TO
THE

TAX MEASURE AND MAKE
THAT

PROMISE TO THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED
FOR IT

FOR A SPECIFIC REASON AND

WE DISCUSSED IT AT LENGTH
BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER McLEWIS,
WE

PASSED A
RESOLUTION.

I OFFERED AN ALTERNATIVE.

I HAVE TWO SAMPLE BOOKLETS
THAT

WE COULD PUBLISH, MEASURES, BOTH

IN LIEU OF ACTUALLY HAVING A

PUBLIC COMMITTEE, WHICH WOULD

SEEM TO TAKE UP A LOT OF
STAFF
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TIME AND EXPENSE THAT WE
COULD

PUBLISH WHAT OUR EXPERTS AND OUR

FINDINGS ARE AND HOW
WE'RE

SPENDING THE MONEY AS OUR

PROMISE TO THE PUBLIC AND
THE

COMMUNITY BOTH ON OUR SEWER
AND

WATER RATE INFORMATION AND
ALSO

ON OUR TAX MEASURE INFORMATION

AND WHERE THOSE DOLLARS
ARE

GOING TO WITH AN ANNUAL

REPORT,

SIMILAR TO HOW WE DO AN ANNUAL

BUDGET REPORT.

SO I KNOW THAT WE HAVE
TALKED

ABOUT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES AS A

SUGGESTION, BUT I THINK WHEN
WE

PUT ALL THESE PRIORITIES
DOWN,

THOSE ARE NOT MY NUMBER
ONE

PRIORITIES WHEN WE COULD DEAL
WITH THOSE THINGS IN OTHER WAYS.

SO, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER

MAURER ABOUT THE BALANCED

BUDGET, THE QUARTERLY FINANCIAL

REPORTING,

AND I THINK THE

BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE

BEEN DOING, I ALWAYS LIKED THAT

PROCESS AND I'M GLAD

WE'VE GOT

AN AGENDA FOR IT AND WE
STILL

HAVE IT -- THOSE MEETINGS
RECORDED.

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I'LL THROW IN MINE.

I APPRECIATE ASPECT

OF BALANCING
REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES.

THE NEXT ONE

IS TAKE ACTION TO

DIVERSIFY THE CITY'S REVENUE
BASE.

THE NEXT IS ACHIEVING STAFFING

AND PROGRAM BUDGET TARGETS
FOR

CITY DEPARTMENTS

THAT MATCH BEST

PRACTICE STANDARDS AND
EFFICIENCIES.

AND THE LAST IS, WHICH
MY

OVERALL FRAMEWORK IS,

WHATEVER

WE DO, WE NEED TO

RUN THIS

THROUGH THE

PEOPLE THAT PAY FOR
OUR INSURANCE.

TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE
DOING IS COMPLIANT WITH THAT.

ALONG THOSE LINES, PART

OF WHAT

I HEARD AND MAYBE THE VICE MAYOR

HEARD TOO AT ONE OF OUR
MOST

RECENT TRAININGS, WHICH IS TO

UPDATE ALL FINANCIAL POLICIES

FOR

CONSISTENCY, BEST PRACTICES,
AND FOR SURE, COMPLIANCE.

SO, YOU COULD PUT THAT
UNDER

EIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE
HEARD IT.

THAT'S WHERE I HEARD IT IN
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THE

CONTEXT OF MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT

VIOLATING THINGS, THAT ALL
OF

OUR POLICIES ARE WHERE THEY NEED
TO BE.

WE'VE TALKED A LOT
ABOUT

REPORTING AND OVERSIGHT, BUT

THIS IS WHERE IT

DOVETAILS WITH

THE OTHER GOALS AND THAT WOULD

BE, ACTUALLY, RAISING --

BRINGING IN REVENUE,

INCREASING

OUR REVENUE, I MEAN, IF
WE'RE

THE ACTION THERE IS -- WE CAN DO

ALL THESE THINGS BUT ONLY IF WE

ACTUALLY HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT
WITH.

I WOULD JUST LIKE US TO
TALK,

YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT

DOVETAILS WITH ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT BUT STILL BRINGING

IN THOSE REVENUES AND

PERSONALLY, I SUPPORT THE

MEASURE, YOU HAVING AN

OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE.

I THINK THAT THAT

DOVETAILS WITH
THE PUBLIC TRUST.

WE'VE LOST A LOT OF THAT
OVER

THE YEARS, IN MY OPINION, BASED
ON FEEDBACK I HAVE RECEIVED.

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AND HONESTLY, FROM MY OWN
SELF,

I THINK THAT HAVING AN OVERSIGHT

COMMITTEE, I THINK, TIME
IS

SPENT EITHER WAY WHETHER
WE'RE

DOING ONE THING OR THE OTHER BUT

I PERSONALLY WOULD JUST LIKE TO ACTUAL

OVERSIGHT

COMMITTEE WHERE WE GIVE, YOU

KNOW, SOME OF OUR

CITIZENS THE

ABILITY TO HAVE SKIN IN THE
GAME

AND FEEDBACK TO US BECAUSE

CLEARLY, WE HAVE LOST TRUST WITH
SOME PEOPLE.
.

I
SUPPORT THAT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS ON
HERE I SUPPORT.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CHIP IN?

THIS IS THE PLACE
WE'RE
PUTTING THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

I DEFINITELY WANT TO

SUPPORT
THAT TWO TIMES A YEAR.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE

CITIZENS, WHEN THEY COME
INTO
THESE

COMMITTEES, CAN ADD AN

EXTREME AMOUNT OF VALUE, AND
NOT

ONLY CAN THEY ADD THEIR

EXPERTISE AND EXTRA EYES
ON THE

SITUATION AND BE

INFORMATIVE
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ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT DO THINGS
AS

AN EXTRA ADVISOR, BUT ALSO
THEY

WILL END UP SAVING STAFF

TIME IN

THE LONG RUN BECAUSE THEY ARE

INVOLVED IN THE

SITUATION, AND

IT WILL REMOVE SOME OF
THE

PROBLEMS WE MIGHT HAVE
LATER.I

STRONGLY SUPPORT AT LEAST

BIANNUAL FOR THE ENTERPRISE

FUND, AND LESS STRONG BUT
ALSO

SUPPORT ONE FOR THE MEASURE
U,
LIKE AN ANNUAL ONE.

OF COURSE, I SUPPORT THE

REST OF

THE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY --

FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY,
BUT

LIKE, VICE MAYOR
McLEWIS,
THERE'S THE TOP LINE.

THERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE,

THERE'S

THE TOP LINE, AND WE NEED
TO

INCREASE THE TOP

LINE AND IN A

DIVERSE WAY BEYOND THE HOTEL
AND

THERE ARE MANY OTHER WAYS THAT

WE CAN DIVERSIFYDIVERSIFY

ECONOMY,

AND THAT SHOULD BE

SOMETHING

THAT WE DO BOTH NEAR TERM
AND

LONG-TERM, BUT WE CAN'T NOTNOT
CONCENTRATE ON THE HOTEL.

BUT IT'S -- TO ME, IT'S VERY,

VERY PRECARIOUS TO JUST DEPEND
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ON A TOURISM-BASED ECONOMY.

SO, I WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER

TOP-END SOLUTIONS AND OTHER
WAYS.

AND I CAN EITHER SAY THOSE OR
NOT SAY THOSE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT --

WHEN THE
OPPORTUNE TIME TO DO THAT IS.

OTHERWISE, YES.

THAT'S WHAT I WILL STICK WITH.

OTHER THOUGHTS?

I LIKE THE IDEA OF

INCREASING

THIS REVENUE BASE AS AN AREA OF
STUDY FOR THE COUNCIL.

SO, WE'VE ALREADY DONE A
LOT.

I KNOW WE'VE DONE A LOT IN THE

LAST YEAR, TWO YEARS,

ACTUALLY,

BUT I COULD -- I THINK

IT MIGHT

BE WORTHWHILE PROJECT TO, LIKE,

THE MAYOR MENTIONED DIVERSIFYINGWAS

ALSO KIND OF

SUPPORTED BY
COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER.

AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD IDEA.

I DON'T

REALLY HAVE ANY IDEA

ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT BE, BUT I

KNOW WE'VE LOOKED AT IT IN THE
PAST.

I THINK WE LOOKED AT IT TWO
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YEARS AGO.

BUT IF WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT

LONG-TERM FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY,
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

MAYOR, COULD

I OFFER SOME
THOUGHTS?

THERE WAS A MEMO IN YOUR PACKET
DATED MARCH 24 WITH AN

UPDATE ON

THE REVENUE OPTIONS THAT
YOU

CONSIDERED SEPTEMBER OF LAST

YEAR, WHICH ALSO

REFLECTED PRIOR

WORK AND IN THAT REPORT, IT

IDENTIFIED -- IT NOTED

THAT SOME

OF THE REVENUE OPTIONS THAT
HAVE

BEEN HISTORICALLY EXPLORED ARE

INFEASIBLE OR WOULD
ONLY

GENERATE

MODEST FINANCIAL

RETURNS AND CALLED OUT
A FEW
THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.

INCLUDING MEASURE U, THE BARLOW

HOTEL, COMBINING THE COMMISSION

TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT

AND UPDATING THE

BUILDING

VALUATION FEES, ALL OF WHICH ARE
IN PROCESS.

OR HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

ONE THAT HASN'T BEEN

MENTIONED
IS THE

EIFD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF
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YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AS ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT BUDGET OR REVENUE
BUDGET OR AN AREA OF OVERLAP.

THE SECOND PAGE OF THAT MEMO

TALKS ABOUT FOUR SPECIFIC OTHER

OPPORTUNITIES, REVIEWING IMPACT

FEES, WHICH IS ON OUR

LIST OF

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

OPTIONS, SO

NEW DEVELOPMENT PACE FOR
THE
IMPACTS THAT IT CREATES.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME
SINCE

WE'VE DONE AN IMPACT FEE
ANALYSIS.

THAT'S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT
OR
CHEAP
EFFORT.

I DON'T HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT,

BUT WE THINK THAT ONE'S WORTH
DOING.

ALSO CONSIDERING A TRENCH
CUT

ORDINANCE SO THOSE WHO

EXCAVATE

CITY STREETS HAVE TO HELP PAY TO
REPAIR THEM.

REVIEWING THE ORDINANCE

FORBIDDING

FORMULA BUSINESSES,

AND THE OTHER IS JUST EXPAND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, GENERALLY.

FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S

WORTHWHILE GOING BACK OVER PRIOR
WORK.

I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON
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DIVERSIFYING REVENUE BASE ON
THE
OPTIONS THAT ARE OUTLINED HERE.

AND I WOULD

SUGGEST IN

PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT FEES IS

PROBABLY THE SINGLE
MOST

IMPORTANT OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT

WE COULD
TAKE ON.

THAT'S INDEPENDENT OF OTHER
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES.

DEVELOPMENT FEES AND MAYBE
EFID.

I HAVE A FEW IDEAS THAT
ARE

FAIRLY LOW STAFF

HOUR THAT I

WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT FOR
SURE.

I THINK THAT THOSE ARE

ADDITIVE,

BUT THERE CAN BE A LOT MORE
AND

AS FAR AS DIRECTION FOR THE
TOWN

GOES, THESE ARE -- WHAT
YOU

MENTIONED ARE JUST LIKE
ADDING
WAYS

TO INCREASE REVENUE SOURCES

FROM THINGS THAT WE'RE ALREADY

DOING BUT THERE ARE SOME
OTHER

WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK
AT

BRINGING IN MORE MONEY, ONE
OF
WHICH WAS, LIKE, OUR AUEs
OR

HAVING SOME KIND OF -- IF
WE'RE

GOING TO HAVE A HOTEL,

IT NEEDS

A VIBRANT DOWNTOWN, SO LIKE,
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HOW
ARE WE GOING TO GET A DOWNTOWN?

WHEN WE ALSO THINK ABOUT,
LIKE,

EVENTS AT IVES AND THESE OTHER

THINGS, THOSE BRING IN

REVENUE

AND SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF
REVENUE SUDDENLY.

AND IF YOU HAVE A HOTEL WITH
IT,

I MEAN, THEY'RE KIND
OF
COMBINED.

SO, JUST SIMPLY ADDING,
LIKE,

HIGHER PERMITTING FEES
OR

SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT WON'T

COVER THE FIRST STEPS

THAT WE
NEED TO DIVERSIFY OUR ECONOMY.

DIVERSIFYING THE ECONOMY,
I

PUT UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

AND NOT LONG-TERM FISCAL
SUSTAINABILITY.

THERE IS AN OVERLAP ON THE
VENN
DIAGRAM.

I AGREE 100%.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT IT.

BUT

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

DIVERSIFYING OUR REVENUE
BASE,

MY SUGGESTION IS NOT TO
START

BROADLY BUT TO START ON THOSE

ITEMS THAT ARE THE -- ARE
MOST
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PROMISING WHICH EIFD,
AGAIN,

COULD FALL INTO

EITHER BUCKET IN

THE DEVELOPMENT FEES IN
PARTICULAR.

WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH

THIS, WE'RE JUST LISTING ALL
THOSE.

AFTER WE AGREE ON WHAT THE

PRIORITIES ARE, WE'RE

GOING TO

TAKE THEM BACK TO STAFF
AND

RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL AS

FAR AS WHAT YOU THINK IS

FEASIBLE
OR NOT?
I'M

JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
WHERE WE'RE GOING.

THAT WAS THE PLAN.

WE JUST TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

YOU COME BACK WITH A PLAN FOR
THESE.

NO?
I'D

LIKE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT

OF A DIFFERENT APPROACH,

BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE

BALANCE BUDGET, QUARTERLY

FINANCIAL REPORTING,
THE

REVIEWING OF THE MEASURE U,

THOSE ARE -- THOSE

ARE THINGS WE
CAN JUST DO.

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WE CAN JUST COMMIT
TO DOING.

THEY DON'T NEED TO BE --
WE CAN

JUST COMMIT TO DOING THEM, AT

LEAST PROPOSING

A BALANCED

BUDGET AND TELLING YOU

WHAT IT
WOULD TAKE TO GET THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THE QUARTERLY
FINANCIAL REPORTING.

WE'RE GOING TO DO

THE ANNUAL

UPDATES WITH THE LONG-TERM
FINANCIAL PLAN.

WE CAN ADD A MEASURE U PRIORITY

OR REVIEW THAT ANNUALLY AS PART
OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

THOSE ARE NOT

SIGNIFICANT LEVELS
OF EFFORT TO ADD OR DO.

THE OTHER PROJECTS
ARE
POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT.

BUT ISN'T THE POINT --
ISN'T

THE EXERCISE HERE FOR US TO GIVE

WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE AND
THEN

SEND THEM BACK TO YOU AND STAFF

TO FIGURE OUT IF

THEY'RE
FEASIBLE?

IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE'RE

HASHING

ALL OF THAT IN ADDITION TO -- I

MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE

IT'S TRYING
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TO ALTER WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO

SET AS PRIORITIES BASED
ON

WHAT -- WHAT STAFF
WANTS.

AGREE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON?

WELL, I HAD A QUESTION FOR
DON.

BUT WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO

SAY, I APPRECIATE THE MEMO
AND

EXTRA IDEAS, AND WHETHER
WE

ADOPT THEM OR NOT OR WHETHER
WE

ADOPT THEM IN THIS LONG-TERM

FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY

BECAUSE

I ALSO SEE SOME OF THESE IDEAS,

DON, FROM THIS MEMO THAT WOULD

DROP INTO ANOTHER

CATEGORY, SO

SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP REVIEWING

IMPACT FEES, THAT WOULD INVOLVE

A WHOLE CONSULTANT
STUDY, RIGHT?

SO, WHEN YOU SAY THAT'S BIG,
GIVE ME AN ESTIMATE.

THERE'S

NO PART OF WHAT I

UNDERSTOOD IS WE

WANTED TO KNOW
WHAT THINGS COST.

I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE BUDGET

INFORMATION TODAY THAN I HAD AT

THE END OF

FEBRUARY, AND WITH

THESE IDEAS, I MIGHT BE

WILLING
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TO ADVOCATE TO ADD IT

BUT WHAT
WOULD THATTHAT COST?

I ASKED THAT QUESTION AND
I

DIDN'T -- I WASN'T ABLE TO
GET

AN ANSWER FROM

ANYBODY
KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT IT.

STEVE, YOU HAVE BEEN THE FISCAL

BUSINESS -- YOU'VE DONE --

I'M JUST GOING TO THROW OUT,

WHY ARE WE GETTING INTO THE
WEEDS ON THIS?
BECAUSE I HAD A QUESTION.

IS THAT OKAY?

I THINK THAT THAT'S
GREAT,

BUT I THINK WE SHOULD

ACTUALLY

TAKE A PULSE CHECK HERE
ABOUT

WHETHER WE WANT TO GET INTO
THE
WEEDS OF IT.

AS THE VICE MAYOR SAID,
JUST

DEVELOPING THE

STRATEGIES,

PRIORITIZING THEM, AND THEN

THROWING IT BACK TO STAFF TO

COME BACK WITH ACTION PLANS FOR

EACH ONE, SAYING

IT'S VIABLE,
NOT VIABLE, COSTS, ET CETERA.

THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

WHAT ARE OTHER
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PEOPLE'S
THOUGHTS?

CAN WE DO A

THUMBS UP, THUMBS
DOWN ON SOME OF THIS?

AND I THINK MAYBE THE

DIVERSIFYING REVENUE AND
THE

REVENUE ISSUES SHOULD BE
UNDER

ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN
LONG-TERM FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY.

I JUST AM CURIOUS ABOUT WHERE

PEOPLE STAND ON A MEASURE U

OVERSIGHT, ON

THE ENTERPRISE
OVERSIGHT.

SO, CAN I JUST STATE WHAT I READ

EARLIER AND GET A THUMBS UP,
THUMBS DOWN?

HOW DO YOU
WANT TO DO THIS?

I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO
DO

THE WHOLE LIST AND THEN
DO

THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN WITH
EACH
ONE OF
THEM.

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE

GOING ALL OVER

THE PLACE AND WE'RE NEVER
GOING

TO GET OUT OF HERE, NOT
GET IN

THE WEEDS WITH THE STRATEGIES TO

DO THIS, BUT I THOUGHT WE
WERE

SUPPOSED TO JUST COME UP WITH
THIS LIST.

WE WERE ALL SUPPOSED TO THUMBS
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UP, THUMBS DOWN ON PRIORITIES

AND THEN --

I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE IT ONE
BOX AT A TIME.

I AGREE.

YEAH.

TOTALLY.

I THOUGHT WE WERE THERE
ALREADY.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

YEAH.

RIGHT, SO, IS THE

GENERAL

CONSENSUS WE HAVE THE NINE

AND THEN

IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR

MARY, ET CETERA, THAT WE

PRIORITIZE THE NINE OR JUST

LEAVE THE NINE, SEND IT BACK
TO

STAFF AND HAVE THEM COME BACK
WITH ACTION PLANS?

I THINK WE NEED TO THUMBS
UP,
THUMBS DOWN ON THESE NINE ITEMS.

YEAH.

SURE.

MAKE SURE WE HAVE --

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ARE YOU GOOD WITH THE NINE OR
NOT?

WE COULD TO THEM ONE
AT A
TIME, READ THEM OFF.

CAN I JUST INTERRUPT FOR A
MINUTE?

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD

REVIEWING

IMPACT FEES TO MAKE IT NUMBER

10. AND THEN WE COULD DO THUMBS UP,
THUMBS DOWN.

IS THAT OKAY?
SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN ALSO, SINCE
WE'RE
ADDING NUMBER 11

IS SEEKING

GRANTS FROM ALL THESE

REGIONAL

BODIES THAT WE ALL SIT

ON, THERE

IS GRANT MONEY OUT

THERE, AND I

THINK PRIORITIZING IT COULD HELP

US DRILL DOWN SONOMA
CLEAN

POWER, THE LIBRARY, ET

CETERA,
ET CETERA.

GO AHEAD, COUNCIL
MEMBER.

OKAY, SO, CITY

MANAGER

BROUGHT UP THE EIFD, AND I
THINK

LONG-TERM

FINANCIAL

SUSTAINABILITY, WE DO NEED A
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PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY A
GOOD BIT.

AND SO, I THINK THAT THAT'S
WHERE THAT BELONGS.

I THINK IT BELONGS IN A

DIFFERENT BUCKET, PERSONALLY, SO

I DIDN'T BRING IT UP IN
THIS
BUCKET.

FROM

MY EXPERIENCE, IT WOULD
BELONG IN A DIFFERENT BUCKET.

I AGREE.

THE SUGGESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER

MAURER, WAS TO GO THROUGH EACH
OF THESE 11?

VICE MAYOR, YOU

HAD SUGGESTED
CONCERNS ABOUT TIME.

WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE?

I THOUGHT GO THROUGH THE

LIST, WHAT IS A

PRIORITY,

BECAUSE IF WE SEND
BACK 11

OPTIONS FOR EVERY ONE OF
THEM,

THE CITY STAFF IS GOING TO,
YOU

KNOW -- THEY'RE GOING TO BE
INUNDATED.

THAT
IS THE SUGGESTION.

CONNECT US OFF.

KICK US
OFF.

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I
CAN'T SEE THIS.

MARY, DO YOU MIND READING THEM?
SURE.

ITEM NUMBER 1 IS A -- THE
GOAL

IS TO HAVE OR

THE STRATEGY

PRIORITY IS TO HAVE A BALANCED
BUDGET.

SEEMS LIKE ALL THUMBS UP.

THE SECOND ONE IS TO HAVE --

I KIND OF PUT BOTH OF
THESE

TOGETHER, HAVE A

QUARTERLY

FINANCIAL REPORT AS WELL AS
A

LONG-TERM FINANCIAL REPORT AS
WELL.

I PUT THEM BOTH TOGETHER.

IS THAT OKAY?

THAT SOUNDS GOOD, MERGING
THOSE TWO.

THUMBS UP?

THE THIRD ONE IS REVIEWING

THE MEASURE U PRIORITY

RESOLUTION DURING THE BUDGET
PROCESS.

YEP.

ALL GOOD.

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THE NEXT ONE IS AN ENTERPRISE

OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TO BE
WOVEN

INTO THE COMMITTEE PROCESS
TO
REVIEW
THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

ALL YES BUT ONE NO.

WHO HAD NO?

BEFORE YOU MOVE

ON, IT'S NOT

UP THERE, BUT WHEN WE
TALKED

ABOUT OVERSIGHT, THERE WAS A
LOT

OF CONVERSATION ALSO
ABOUT

MEASURE U AND SO I DON'T KNOW
IF

THAT'S SOMETHING

SEPARATE THAT

THE COUNCIL WANTS OR IT'S
NOT ON
THE
LIST.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL
CLEAR.

ISN'T THAT -- WHAT DO
YOU
MEAN?

THAT IS JUST FOR VIEWING
THE
SPENDING ANNUALLY.

IT'S NOT HAVING A COMMITTEE.

IN MY MIND, I

THOUGHT THAT

MEANT WE WOULD

COME BACK WITH

OPTIONS WITH THE WAY TO REVIEW
IT.

I MEAN, ISN'T THAT --

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I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST

BRINGING THAT RESOLUTION BACK
TO

YOU EVERY YEAR TO SAY, THIS
IS

WHAT THE RESOLUTION IS

HOW OUR
BUDGET FITS INTO IT.

IT'S NOT AN INDEPENDENT CITIZEN

REVIEW OF THOSE OVERSITE.

OVERSIGHT.

I SEE.

OKAY.

WHO PUT

THAT ON THERE IN THE
FIRST PLACE?
I THINK I DID.

I MEAN, IF

THAT'S WHAT THE

INTENT WAS, THAT'S -- I
JUST

WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
ALL

CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THAT
INTENT
WAS.

THE INTENT IS TO HAVE A

REVIEW OF THE SPENDING BASED
ON

THE POLICY THAT WE --
THE

PRIORITY POLICY THAT WE SET
UP

ALREADY SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE

THAT DONE WITH HELP OF STAFF TO

LOOK AT, HERE'S WHAT

WE AGREED
ON, AND HOW'D WE DO?
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OKAY.

RATHER THAN

OVERSIGHT

COMMITTEE, THAT WE DO THAT
WORK.

AND I CAN LIVE WITH THAT.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

ALL THUMBS UP.

I'M SORRY.

CAN YOU REPEAT IF THAT'S TWO
SEPARATE ONES NOW?

JUST CLARIFYING MEASURE
U,

WHAT IT
MEANT, THE REVIEW.

SO, THE OTHER ONE WAS TO
DO DO
THE

ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT AS PART
OF A BUDGET COMMITTEE PROCESS?
YES.

GOT THAT.

THE NEXT ONE IS TO

PUBLISH THE

FINANCIAL REPORTS KIND OF LIKE
A
BUDGET AT A GLANCE.

THAT WAS BROUGHT FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER HINTON.

I FEEL LIKE IT GOES WITH, IF

WE'RE GOING TO DO ENTERPRISE

OVERSIGHT, BOTH

OF THOSE WOULD
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HAVE A PUBLISHED DOCUMENT, I
SUPPOSE.

BUT I THOUGHT YOU SAID
THAT

IN LIEU OF HAVING AN OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE.

IS THAT -- DID I

UNDERSTAND
THAT?

IF WE HAVE AN OVERSIGHT

COMMITTEE, I WOULD EXPECT TO
GET

A REPORT FROM THEM THAT WOULD BE
PUBLISHED.

RIGHT, I WAS JUST TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN, I WASN'T FOR A WHOLE
COMMITTEE.

I THOUGHT THE REPORT
WOULD
SUFFICE.

BUT EVEN IF WE HAVE

A COMMITTEE,

I WOULD EXPECT

A REPORT, I
GUESS.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

FOR ME, I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTIVE
OF

JUST HAVING A PUBLISHED DOCUMENT
FROM THE STAFF.

I'M SUPPORTING -- I DON'T
KNOW

HOW WE'D, YOU KNOW -- A
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REPORT

FROM THE OVERSIGHT

COMMITTEE,
YES.

BUT JUST HAVING A REPORT, I

WOULD -- THAT'S NOT WHAT I WOULD
BE VOTING FOR.

SO, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR
ON

HOW WE'RE

VOTING, GIVING THUMBS
UP OR THUMBS DOWN ON THAT.

I THINK A MAJORITY OF
YOU

ALREADY SAID YOU WANTED

OVERSIGHT FOR MEASURE U, SO

LET'S ASSUME THAT EXISTS AND NOW
IT'S A
REPORT.

ON THE
ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

SO, NOW, DO YOU WANT A REPORT

PRODUCED ON -- FROM THE
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE?
OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR SINCE WE
ALL
HAD DIFFERENT IDEAS.

I SEE ONE YES.

ALL YES.

THE NEXT ONE IS

DIVERSIFYING
THE CITY'S REVENUE BASE.

YES.

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ALL YES.

YES.

THE NEXT ONE IS TO ACHIEVE

STAFFING AND PROGRAM BUDGET

TARGETS

FOR DEPARTMENTS MEETING

EFFICIENCY STANDARDS AND BEST
PRACTICES.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION?

I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT
MEANS.

IT IS WHAT IT IS.

AND THEN THIS IS THE PART
OF OF

PUTTING IT HAVING AN
ACTION PLAN TO IMPLEMENT IT.

CAN I ADD SOMETHING ON THAT?

I WANT TO ADD, YOU KNOW,
WITHIN
THE BUDGET, RIGHT?

SO, I GUESS DOESN'T MATTER

BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY AGREED

THAT WE WOULD BALANCE THE
BUDGET.

EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE IN
BALANCE IN THE BUDGET.

DOESN'T MATTER.

OKAY.

SO, WHERE ARE WE?
NUMBER SEVEN.

Agenda Item Number: 3
Agenda Item Number: 3
City Council Meeting Packet of: April 15, 2025

I MODERATELY FEEL

LIKE THIS
COULD

GO UNDER HIGH-PERFORMING
ORGANIZATION.

I MEAN, WE NEED TO
PROVE

OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY
SOMEWHERE.

IS THIS TAKING CARE OF THAT?

OR SHOULD WE PUT IT UNDER THE --

I'M HAPPY TO JUST COPY
AND
PASTE THAT.

I AGREE.

LET'S MOVE IT.

OKAY.

MR. FACILITATOR, YOU'RE COPY
AND
PASTING THAT?
OKAY.

AND CAN I
ASK
MR. FACILITATOR, WHEN HE GETS A
MINUTE, THAT CIRA IS CIRA.THOUGHT CORRECT IT FOR THE
RECORD.

THANKS.

ON THE NEXT ONE.

THANK YOU.

SO, THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE TO

UPDATE THE FINANCIAL POLICIES TO
Agenda Item Number: 3
Agenda Item Number: 3
City Council Meeting Packet of: April 15, 2025

ENSURE THAT THEY MEET CIRA

PROTOCOLS AS WELL AS BEST
PRACTICES AND CONSISTENCY.

YES FOR LIABILITY.

CIRA AND YES.

THUMBS UP.

I WOULD LIKE -- BECAUSE
I'M

NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT CIRA

MEANS, IS THIS

TAKING CARE OF
OUR INSURANCE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES?

IT'S THE RISK -- IT'S
BASICALLY OUR INSURANCE.

PUBLIC AGENCIES USE RISK
POOLS,
SO IT'S OUR RISK POOL.

IT'S THE CALIFORNIA

INTERGOVERNMENTAL RISK --

SO IT'S
SUSTAINABILITY.

YES.

THUMB UP?
THERE'S ALL FOUR.

THE

NEXTNEXT ONE IS -- YOU AND I
HAVE DIFFERENT ONES.

I'M ASSUMING WE MOVED
THE

INCREASING REVENUE BASE
TO
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT?
Agenda Item Number: 3
Agenda Item Number: 3
City Council Meeting Packet of: April 15, 2025

I HAD THAT ONE.

UPDATE OF THE IMPACT FEES,

REVIEW OF UPDATE OF THE IMPACT
FEES?
IN

MY ADDING IT WAS TO HAVE
MORE INFORMATION ON IT.

YEAH.

THUMBS UP?
YEAH.

VICE
YEAH.