Sebastopol City Council
April 21, 2026

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: all ofthese situations startedcoming up, so as you see in the staff report, it would be arequest from Westco tocover the fees. 1151
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: My general question is, is WESCO… has Wesco agreed to re-compensate for allthis significant staff time that was approved without the full blessing of all of us onCouncil?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No, not that I'm aware of. 1153
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Mayor McLewis: I, I dowant to express myconcern over this. I, I, and I, you know, yeah, okay. So, and we can do this in comments. Are there any other questions? 1154
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Mayor McLewis: Vice Mayor?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes,this is for you. So… Agenda Item Number 3
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Let's say you're able to put it into the hotel lot. How many days a week do you foresee this being used, and how manyhours a day, and how manynights?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Like,what kind of usage are we talking about? 1158
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You'reprobably looking at,4 evenings during the week, so Monday through Thursday is pretty common.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then Saturdays and Sundays, more so during the day. During the week would be more evening time, you know, afterschool. 1160
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anywhere from 4 to 9 at night. 1161
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MayorMcLewis:And how manykids?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: On these surfaces, roughly… 20 kids per court. 1163
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Maximum.
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Mayor McLewis: So total, that would be… looking here…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Ifthere's twocores, it'd be 40kids. 1166
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MayorMcLewis:Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you have larger, older, older individuals, right, it would be less, you know, individuals there. It just depends on the team that's assigned for that time slot.
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Mayor McLewis: So, with these time slots, is it just one time slot for the evening, or how many time slots arethere in the evening? How… what's the turnover? 1169
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Our traditional turnover is about an hour anda half per,trainingsession,if youwill.Soit'd probablybe2sessionsperevening.Okay.You know,4 to6.30,6.30 to8.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Like at the high school, we can't get on the field there until 7, so we go from 7 to 8.30, just one session. 1171
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MayorMcLewis:Goahead,ViceMayor.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Have you, talked to Sunridge about their field? 1173
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Are you aware of the Sunridge? It's a charter schoolthat's,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is that the one onthe top bi-week side? 1175
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Mayor McLewis: Is it Litchfield? Or is it Litchfield Hayden? 1176
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, it's on Hayden. They have a pretty big field up there. I don't know what they're using it for.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: no?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You have, okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Mayor McLewis: Councilmember Hinton.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, isWestco prepared to move forward onthe youth annex idea if we're not willing to…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Bless the hotel property for various reasons. 1183
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah,our objective is reallythat beingthe primary locationthat we'd like to entertain.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, the hotel location is really more of a temporary spot if, securing the annex takes considerable time. 1185
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And through the Mayor, one comment, you know, with this particular
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And we could enter into agreement withthem that they agree to not go past 2years
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: With,you know, at the hotel site, and enter into some sort of binding agreement with them.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: thepotential risk for thecouncil is we'vechanged the zoning there, so what if someone else submits an application? We won't have an agreement withthem.
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Mayor McLewis: Okay, thank you. Any other questions? Otherwise, we're going to go out to public comment.
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MayorMcLewis:Okay,goahead,Mary.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Carter has aquestion. 1192
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Mayor McLewis: Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't see yourhand there, sorry. Yourhand was kind of… anyway,goahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I'm gonna lob a curveball to my own team here.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, if… if… if other fields become available, would tonight, like, would any of… anyof this exploration, because I don't want to cause any more cost without…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center:compensating staff. Agenda Item Number 3
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Like, like, let's say we found another spot, like, at the FordBuild… something came up, or somebody's backyard cameup. 1198
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is… isthere anything, voting for tonight that would also allow us to pursue looking at,you know, researching anything? 1199
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's hard to say without… 1200
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: knowing the site, right? There are sites in the city that are zoned to allowthis use, and someone could just come in 1201
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: With their design review permit, you know, and there's no need for zoning change or use permit or anything likethat. 1202
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And there wouldn't need to be studies, and it would just be that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: thereason there's direction needed from Council here tonight is one of the proposed sites is on city property, and theother involves azoning change. So if there's a site that is found that this is feasible at that doesn'tneed a zoning change.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and it's privately owned, there's nothingthat's needed from the… youknow, they just gothrough a normal process ofeither design review, or if it's a permitted use, or if they need aconditional use permit, you know,applyforthat, and that would be it. You know, and they pay the established fee for either ofthose things. 1205
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Mayor McLewis: I havea questionabout process, and I see Councilmember Hinton, too. I havea questionaboutprocess,justbecause
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Mayor McLewis: this was a lot of hours expended without… and it goesbeyond what our protocol is, and I want to understand from
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Mayor McLewis: I guess from staff, from attorney, whomever, who is driving this? You know, if we have acouncil member who's championing this, werecognize that this is, you know, Councilmember Carter's initiative. If we haveacouncil member that'sdrivingthis,and we know that we're going over the hours, I mean.
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Mayor McLewis: I'm just a littleconcerned that this wasn't communicated to any of us. I mean.
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Mayor McLewis: we… there's a bit ofan imbalance there, because a council member is, you know, we are overcity manager and attorney, and I'm just wondering, from the planning department, did all thisjust, like, cumulatively just realized at the end,or how did this happen, is what's very concerning to me. Imean, we can't have… so I'm just hoping someone can helpme to better understand this, and I…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And ifI can, the complicatingthing is, is thefact that when Councilmember Carter declared, well, put forth the fact that he didn't view this as a conflict of interest, I'll just share. I immediately texted Alice, this is not the same advice.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That our prior legal counsel said, who prohibited me from ever sitting ona nonprofit board that could come before thiscouncil. Agenda Item Number 3
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I have all theconcerns that the mayor just expressed,combined bythefactthattheperson whopushed thisforward ison a board, paid or unpaid, right? So, I, too, am concernedabout the check and balances and how it went through
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: all thedifferent city staff, and,like, no one decided that they needed to weigh in and say, this is above the allocated amount of simple staff time toprepare anagenda item, right? So I, too, am asking the question. 1214
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Mayor McLewis: Councilmember Hint.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Also, Ihave a question ofwhether Westco came forward first, or Councilmember Carter, because typically, when one ofus wants to bring an agenda, and we have… we're championing it, our name is on it. 1217
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And inthis instance. 1218
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: thecouncil member's name isn't on it anywhere, which doesn't seem very transparent, and we are going to tackle next, like, our ethics and our… so, I would like toknow who really brought this forward first, Iguess, because I'm curious about that.
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Mayor McLewis: Could someone answer?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, I mean, I brought this forward, for sure, because, like, I saw an opportunity, so I just wanted to know if it was possible, and if there were…there wascreep.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: withstaff, you know, I apologize, but all I did was, like, you know, is… canthis be a thing, right? Can we bring this up? And then… 1222
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Therewas some discussion of whether it can be a thing.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But having a soccer… having a soccer court there was somebody else's idea that came to me.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so… The original idea came from the club, then I kind of, like…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: went about asking staff if this could be something that wecould bring. Like, I don't… I didn't evenknow if we could. 1226
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Put a soccer court anywhere, so it was just generalcreep.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: naivety, like, what do we do?How do we… howdo webring…how dowechampion something?
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SebastopolCommunityCulturalCenter:Youknow,if wewanna…ifwewanna bringa project so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, I'll own it if it's not the right way to do it, forsure.
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Mayor McLewis: Do we have otherquestions? Iknow we all have comments, and I'll save those for later, but just questions before we get to…
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Mayor McLewis: And then, I guess maybe, I mean, did anyone… we didn't really get any answers to our questions as far as askinghowwe got to this place, soCouncilmember Carter brought it forth.
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MayorMcLewis:Whathappened?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I will take the hit as far as the time. I was not aware of the amount oftime, to be honest. I know that we met,conceptually foran houror two,and then…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Carter brought… did a lot of the legwork, but then I heard tonight the amount ofhours, so… that'llbe onme. I will take that hit for not knowing theamount of hoursthat were spent by staff, andhow much they delved into it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, yes, that would fall to me. 1237
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Mayor McLewis: Well, but I also have a question. What responsibility do department heads? Specifically,wehavesomeonewho'sa contractor,and how manyhourshavethey put into this, since we take a hit constantly with contractors? 1238
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MayorMcLewis:And whathourswe'respending,whatresponsibilitydotheybearin communicatingthis stuff? So, I appreciate thatyou want to takethe hit, but we also have departmentheadswhoareresponsibleforkeepingtrack,soistherea policyora process for that?Or do we… is this somethingthat needs to be assessed? 1239
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sotypically, for anythingthatgoes substantial, that would bereturnedto the City Council. Again, it was cumulative, and that's when I… 1240
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: had aconversation tonight when I found out the number ofhours that were being spent on this.So, typically, we wouldcatch it in the beginning when we… when we met and said, how much staff time? We believed… well, my understanding, andcorrect me if I'm wrong, my understanding when it came forward was it wasconceptual.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then we… it grew into more and more and more, so, yeah, that comes with me.
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Mayor McLewis: Well, and forme, therein lies the question of,you know, having a council member drivingthis and utilizing allthese hours, and none of us were able to weigh inon this,becausewe'veallbeen warned abouthow manyhourswecanspend.I,youknow, and, you know, I'm veryconcerned about that.But anyways, I'll save it for comments, but, Agenda Item Number 3
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Mayor McLewis: Do you want to go out to public comment if everyone's good with the questions?
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MayorMcLewis:Goahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou, Mayor. So this is for public comment on the, proposed locations for aproposed soccer court. If you would like to make a public comment, as a 2-minute time limit. I willcometo Chambers first, and then go out to Zoom. 1246
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm Kenyon Webster, president ofthe Community Center Board.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We provide activerecreation,we certainly support Active Recreation.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We do that ourselves. 1249
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And support otherorganizations that provide that. However, we have significant concerns with the idea of eliminating, basically, this parking lot.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It is a resource for the community center, Wishman Hall, CityCouncil meetings.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so on. All the people that use this area. 1252
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And it's a particular resource for large events at the communitycenter.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, our concerts… our festivals. 1254
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: sometimes multi-day, use, in the festival context, where some of the vendors might park there forseveral days. So losing that resource would bea significantadverseimpacton ouroperations.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Inaddition, I providedyou with a letter and an email about this.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Based on my previous experience working for the city, I believe that there's a…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center:conflict with the LagunaParkMaster Plan that specifically
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This parking lot that's out there was called for, to be developed by the, master plan.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's right in there. Agenda Item Number 3
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It was built further with agrant, I think. 1261
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I haven't researched it exactly, but I believe, from the state of California, there may be,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't think that there were any deed restrictions that came out ofthat grant, but there may be
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Provisions or agreements thatwere made in connection withthat grant that should be looked at from a legal perspective to see if there's anything that requires its retention in the present use, which was developed 1264
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: grant. So we have a significant concern with the proposal. It's certainlynot that weoppose thiskind of use in thecity. 1266
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's very commendable, all the efforts that the… 1267
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: soccer club has, undertaken to try to achieve this. Opinion, that's 2minutes. So, thank you. Thank you for your publiccomment. Next, I'll go out to Zoom. Oliver, can you mute yourself, please?
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Oliver:Yep.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou, can you see the timer? 1270
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Oliver:Yeah,Ican.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, go ahead, please. 1272
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Oliver: Well, that's a shame, because I was going to say, you know, I love the game. I call it football, because I'm English, but what Kenny just said kind of blew what I was going to say out of the water, because I was going to say itwould be great to havesoccerfieldsbehind the communitycenter, but clearly…
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Oliver:Thatcan'thappen,and there'snowayin a million yearsyoucould havesoccerfields where the Piazza Hotelsite is. I mean, that's the busiest crossroads in all of Sonoma County, right there. There's an icecream shopacross the street. 1274
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Oliver: There's so manythings that could go wrong there. You could have balls flying up and over whatever fence they put up, because that's what happens with soccer. 1275
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Oliver:Hittingcarwindscreensand allthatkind of stuffon what'sa verybusyroad. 1276
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Oliver: So it's just not really viable, I'm afraid. Imean, it's a real shame, because there's so much vacant land that the county has,
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Oliver: It's incredible tome that all of the… all of the land you drive past for sale and… 1278
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Oliver: landthat's owned by thecountycouldn't be used forthis. Imean, it's a relatively small footprint for these midi, you know, all-weather surfaces. So, to me, it's a non-starter.

And then, just the last point I want to make is.
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Oliver: The theme ofthe evening seems to be process…
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Oliver:screw-ups.Soyouhad theproblemwith thePlanningCommission earlier,where peopledidn'treallyunderstand therules,and now itwould appearthishashappened again to CouncilmemberCarter, no fault of his own, Iguess, but these rules are, youknow,are difficult to get your head around, and it's so easy to kind of go off on atangent, thinking. 1281
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Oliver: you're moving ahead on something, but you have to gothroughall ofthe steps of the protocol.
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Oliver: That's just the reality ofCalifornia bureaucracy. Sothat's mycomment, thankyou. 1283
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou, Oliver, for your public comment. Next, I will come intochambers, if there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Her name is Linton Hale. I'm arelatively new member ofthe
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: word for thecommunitycenter, but this is really my own statement, so I'm speaking as an individual.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm surprised, Steve, and… 1287
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And Phil, I'm surprised you didn't mentionthat this is a wetlands reserve.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, and we're talkingabout putting 1289
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: A fieldhere which has microplastics. 1290
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And yes, there's gonna be a catchment system, but catchment systems don't last forever, andmicroplastics probablydo. 1291
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So… You know, I have this thing written up. 1292
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Basically.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: basically just that, you know?Are you working with theLaguna,youknow,theLaguna Keepers,ortheLaguna deSanta Rosa Foundation? I mean, it's just upsetting to me to thinkthat we're going to… Agenda Item Number 3
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Oliver: No?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, put…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Also, it does affect the birds. You're talking about every, you know, 4 nights a week until 8 or 9 o'clock with lights there. It's going to affect 1297
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: this whole area. 1298
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, Ithink that should be taken into consideration. 1299
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou for your publiccomment. Next, I will go to Zoom. Rob, can youunmute yourself, please?
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Rob P: Sure. Hi, I'm, Rob Pennington, festival resident. 1301
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Rob P: I'm also a coachfor Wesco, and havetwo boys, who play for Wesco. 1302
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Rob P: And, I want to thank,
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Rob P: Phil, Carter, andSteve for bringing this forward. I think there's tremendous need. 1304
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Rob P:Foradditionalspace.
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Rob P: You know, Westco's just really outgrownthe field capacity in town. 1306
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Rob P: And starting to have to, you know, go elsewhere, go to El Molino, go to Santa Rosa to find space. Just need more in town, and I think the options presented are really quite good. 1307
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Rob P: You know, these mini soccer pitches arequite small, right? They're barely bigger than a tenniscourt.
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Rob P: And, but the amount of play,right,the amount of activity that they will get will be, you know, huge, right?Comparable to polyfield ormore so, right? Considering… 1309
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Rob P:the,thenumberof playerswhoplayyear-round for Wesco, and,the other, 1310
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Rob P: Groups, soccer groups, adult leagues, others that wouldcertainly use that space. 1311
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Rob P: Similar, you know, soccer pitches.Other places get ahuge amount of use, it becomes like a community hub, similar to, like, a skate park, right? This is a great thing to have in our city, not out there in thecountry where people have to drive to.We want this to be a place where people, or kids can ride theirbike, they can walk to in town. Agenda Item Number 3
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Rob P: Right, so making sure that it is in town is quite important. 1313
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Rob P: It sounds like there are some issues.
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Rob P: With these spaces, with zoning, or, youknow, past plans, but those things can be changed, right? And that's… that's what you guys do. So I hopethat, you guys can figure that out, and… and bring… and… and movethis… this project forward. It's reallyneededin Sebastopol.Thankyou.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou, Rob, for your public comment. Next, I will come back intochambers, if there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Daniele Petroni from Piazza Hospitality, I'm here just as a representativeof the
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: property owner, which is the proposed site of the temporary, proposed temporary site. Also, as a soccer fan, though as afan ofthe Italian national team, I'm a soccerfan with a broken heart.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I justwanted to express…you guys saw the letter that I submitted. I just wanted to express our support for the idea, and just to quickly answer some… some things that havecome up. I think…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For us, personally, we're planning… we would plan to offer what's called ano-cost lease, we're not looking to make any money off of this, and so concerns about, you know, us down the road pickingthe continuation of asoccerfield versus building the hotel, I mean, there's no economics that would sort of 1320
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: allow that to be evena viable thing for us to consider. I also just wanted to mention parking. I know the staff report made mentionof that. We also have ourBrown Street lot, which, at the moment, we have a no-cost lease with the farmers market for vendor parking on Sundays. We're also open to offering a nocost lease for parking for the site, if the temporary fields were to be 1321
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: installed. And yeah, beyond that, just want to echo, as a soccerfan, you know, there's a really excitingtime for soccer, and it seems like a great time to capitalizeon that, but obviously understand theconcerns aswell.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou for your publiccomment. Next, I'll go out to Zoom. Kyle, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Kyle Falbo: I can't.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou, can you still see the timer? 1325
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Kyle Falbo: Yes I can.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Great,go ahead, please. 1327
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Kyle Falbo: So I'm really hopingthat we get some good follow-up about, just process. Ithink that'sprobablythebigtakeawayforthattonight.Iamkind of curiouswhytherewasn'ta consideration
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Kyle Falbo: of the annex lot as a temporary location, right? Ithink a lot of… some ofthe 1329
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Kyle Falbo: kind of preparatorymaterial, was making reference to Regal, but that's a multiyear project. Well, 2 years is a multi-year, and so I'm just kind ofmore curious about the option of a temporary
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Kyle Falbo: like, exploring more temporary options rather than a permanent option. 1331
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Kyle Falbo: I'm always humored to hear some of the previous speakers' comments that are alwayskind of…
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Kyle Falbo: rooted in some sort of a negativeconnotation, and trying tomake outlandish claims about things like… like safety or security about the surroundingarea. There is… 1333
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Kyle Falbo: pass precedent for a lot ofthis in other cities that have traffic patterns that are similar to what wehave. I think any of the proposed locations would be fine in that capacity. 1334
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Kyle Falbo: I explore… Iencourage Council to explore where some of these have been set up in other cities.But Ithink the hugest concern here is that somehowsomeone got away with spending20hoursof workingon thisproject.
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Kyle Falbo: billing us under a contract, because we don't… we don't have, our shit together. Alright, thanks a lot.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou, Kyle, for your public comment. Next, I will come back intochambers, if there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Please?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hi, I'm Tim Elliott. Ihave 3 boys. They all 3 played with Wesco, for the past 10 years. They all stillplay. They're 16, 13, and 9. And, of course, I got roped intocoaching them, so I'm now coaching with Wesco as well. 1339
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, just yesterday, I was at Brookhaven, It's, 1340
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: on Mondays. Like, we have a lot of teamsthere, and it's pretty awesome to look around and seeall those kids playing, and seeing it used in this way. I love what soccer does. As acoach, Isee it build confidence forthese kids. I see it giving them something to do outside of electronic devices. 1341
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I see it building friendships, and… and not just between the kids, but between the parents, too.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And my boys actually, the older two, theyactually biketoBrookhaven on theirown.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And they can do that independently, and so it builds a lot ofconfidence that way. And so I really see the value in having these kinds of soccer fields in places that are accessible to the kids and don't require driving. 1344
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I see not just kids that are part of the clubat Brookhaven all the time, but I see kids from theneighborhood. They show up there, they play soccer, sometimes they eat candy and just hang out. But it's… it'san amazingspace, and it brings kids away from devices and has them doing something out in the outdoors. 1345
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: SoI just wanted to say I reallyappreciate all these efforts to make something happen for Sebastopol, and give us more spaces like this. I think it's a really, really good thing, and for everyonewho's putting work intothis and trying to makeithappen,Ireallyappreciateit.Thankyou.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou for your publiccomment. Next, I will go back out to Zoom. Sue, can you unmute yourself, please? 1347
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Su Corbaley: Yes, I'm unmuted.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can you see the timer? 1349
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SuCorbaley:Ican.Thankyouforbringingthisprojectforward.Igrew up playingsports,and I think it really does mold who we become as adults, and I think it is important to finda placefor
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Su Corbaley: Young… our young adults and our children to, form who they become. 1351
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Su Corbaley: So I'm fully in support of finding avenue for something like this. 1352
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Su Corbaley: I am concerned, however, the fellow who brought upthe, concern over the disturbances through the lighting at night to birds. I… 1353
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Su Corbaley: agree wholeheartedly with that. Nighttime lights do disturb biologicalcycles of bothplantsand birdsand otheranimals.
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Su Corbaley: And I think that, those things should be considered 1355
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Su Corbaley: before the Council agrees to put any more time into staff time for pursuing this, as well as looking,just even superficially, looking at what the impacts for traffic at the Piazza location might be.
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SuCorbaley:Ihaveconcernsalreadyaboutwhatthebackupsin town are,duringpeak times, andthe times proposed for those
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Su Corbaley: to, turnover times would be at peak commute time. So, perhaps the council could direct somebody, maybe theWESCO can hire a consultant to doan initial, purview… a review of an initial study under the CEQA Act.
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Su Corbaley: under theCEQA law to determinewhat the impacts ofthose things might be. 1359
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Su Corbaley: Bird and animal life at night. Thank you. 1361
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou for your publiccomment. Next, I will come back into chambers, if there's anyone inchambersthat would like to make a public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Please?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Goodevening. My name's, Ben Harris. I'vebeen in this basketball for 6 years now. Icoach at Wesco. I've been coaching there for 6years. All my kids have gone through there.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I currentlycoach, Sebast… Annaleigh High School, JV Girls, coachas well, and I, I just… Imean, I've already… I already sent in a puppet comment by email. It's quite a long one, so I'm hoping that the council will, read all… read allthe different points.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that Imade in… in support ofthese proposals. I reallydothink
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: soccer in Sebastobal is booming. I mean, everyonehas,in supportof this,hasmentioned how manykidsareplaying,and thereisa crunch for fields, and there isn't a lot ofopportunity within Sebastobal to 1367
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: find space. I understand some of theconcerns that are beingraised here.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But interms of the benefits that these courts can bring to thecommunity, I think is incredibly beneficial, not just 1369
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: just…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: just places for kids just to goand play, not just… not just for, like, structured coaching, but just for places for them to go, so easily accessible.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, in many respects. 1372
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Ithinkthat's what we're all looking for, is… is to benefit our community, and particularlythe younger generation. And I think, in many ways, what we're proposing here, what Steve has proposed, is very well detailed,very well put together, and I think it hits a lot of the policies that I feel that 1373
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SebastopolCommunityCulturalCenter:theCityCouncilhavingtheirown planning documents. And so, in terms of recreation, finding recreational facilities. And so, I hope that in how Westco hasbeen presentingthis, and taking on board some of the other concernsthathavebeen raised,thatyoudomoveforward with atleastanalyzing 1374
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: thepotential for the two sites, particularly the one at the annexhere, for me personally. That's all Ihave to say. Thank you for yourtime. 1375
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou for your publiccomment. Next, I will go out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment, please raiseyourhandvirtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: CNN, I will come back inthe chambers, ifthere's anyone in thechambers that would like to make a public comment. 1377
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed. 1378
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Mayor McLewis: All right, thank you verymuch.We're back at the dais,so, Councilmember Hinton?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sure, I'll go out first. 1380
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, my kids played West Coast soccer, too. Theyplayed allkindsof thingsaround here,and Idorealizetheimportanceof that,and having places to play for our kids. I'm not in favor, although I… Agenda Item Number 3
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I was… I kind of thought something going on in the hotel space would be better than nothing, but I'm not in favorbecause of the long-term impacts about the zoning change. And, you know, we sit here, and in two years from now, we've changed the zoning, and all of a sudden, the center of our 1382
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SebastopolCommunityCulturalCenter:downtown hasa permanentsoccerfield,and I can't… I can't support that, so that's just not gonna fly. I might be able to support something out here. I hear thecommunity center saying it's losing a parking lot, but let'sbe real.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: thehigh school fills up, we can all walk a little more. We've got the Barlow right down the road. I'm not worried about losing the parking lot. What I am more worried about is the Laguna, and the rules around that, and I sat on Ag and Open Space for6 years, and there's a lot of talk in Sonoma Countyabout soccer fields. 1384
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And incompetition with openag spaces incities, and so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But this, to me, is a hub. My kids played baseball here, you know, for outdoor…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: youth, and this is ayouth annex, let's be real. So it would be nice to figureout if that's a possibility.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't have a firm decision tonight, this is a big decision, but, if I were to consider anything, it would be to consider something here, but we would have to have Wesco look into whether it's even possible with the environmental restrictions.
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Mayor McLewis: Councilmember Zollman?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, the whole, temporarything at the piazza is a complete no-go for me, for a lot of reasons that Councilmember Hinton already talked about. I'm not gonna put us in some situation so someone doesn't, you know, continue to exercise complete good faith, because they have an out. 1390
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because we put something inthere, that is completely of a different use and is completelynow rezoned. So that isa complete out for me.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: putting aside my ownconcerns about how we end up getting here withthe20-plus hours of taxpayers' money spent onanissue that the five of us did not bless, whichI'll bring up at a future agenda item request, because that is not alright.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's like, if Wesco was fine with reimbursing the city for the amount of money that has already been spent, I would be open to at least having some type of environmental impact.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: looked into.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for the placethat's outside the window here. But only if Wesco is agreeing to pay staff for the amount of timethat has… it's not their fault, and I'm not trying to place fault, but nevertheless, taxpayers' money wasspenton somethingthat the fiveof us did not approve on, so that's where I'm at. 1395
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Mayor McLewis: Vice Mayor?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I played indoor soccer when I was in high school, and I loved it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I'm a fan of soccer. I would be a fan of, 1398
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Of having the soccer fields in town, but it's really… it's location… it's the location that's concerning for me. 1399
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, the Zero Waste Board, back in November, they are talking about developing an ordinance that would allow SonomaCounty jurisdictions to consider options for placing bans on artificial turf.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: on public, private, orcommercial spaces. That… that has me concerned.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Especially in the youth annex,where it is in a floodplain.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, that is not okay for me tohave artificial turf in a floodplain.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm okay with… Ithink I wouldbe okay with it if there were environmental typesthat I heardthere are. You can get it with, instead of rubber, you can get it withcoconut shells or something like that. I'd be okay with that at the downtown site, but I have concerns about the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Zone… to change of zoning. 1405
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Although we havebeen asked for pickleball courts, so ifthat became maybe pickleball courts down to Barlow,maybe that'd be okay, I don't know.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But atthe Youth Annex, also, in order to put those two courts in, you're going to have to cut downat least 8 to12 trees. 1407
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, that's not okay with me. This is a Wetlands Laguna Preserve.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And Iwould like to maintainthat status for that, as well as the fact that it's overflow parking.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But tome, the fact that it's a wetlands preserve, and you'd have to remove trees, and it would be introducing arisk of plastics into the lagunaright here, it's just not… it's a no-go forme, just no. 1410
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But the hotel site, I would be willing to look at maybe a oneyear until the development agreement came up. 1411
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Although I do haveconcernswith the change of zoning,so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: theother thought that Ihad is, if you're… if you're able to do something temporary, the…right behind… right behind theCatholic Church, there's a big field there that is going to be for sale, so there's… 1413
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: maybe a possibility that theywould allow that for a temporary soccer use. And then also talkingwith the people at Sunridge. 1414
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And…and then, yeah, theother idea, I don't know, but
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Mayor McLewis: I thinkthat supporting youth in many different things is important, I mean, just as a general rule principle. I mean, I'm always excited when I hear that we can support more things for the youth in Sebastopol, because you don't… I personally don't think we see it enough.
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Mayor McLewis: it's just unfortunatethat there's a number of challenges with this here, and Icameintoitthinkingonething,andnow,afterlisteningtopeopleandhearingthepublic. 1419
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Mayor McLewis: I'm leaving with something different. I will say that downtown, the idea of changingthezoning,thelong-term impact that that could have, I'm just not willing to kick open that door right now, so I will say forthat, it's just a no-go forme downtown. I mean, we just… there's… there are…
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Mayor McLewis: huge impacts that can happen once we start changing zoning, and it just opens this whole othercan of worms. So definitely not supportive of that at this point, and I came into this thinkingwith the Laguna that, you know, that might be agood area. I will say that, you know, I'vebeen working with the folkswho like to see pickleball courts, and they have the same challenges, and they continue to tell me theyneed something here because they're driving to Roanoke Park and allover everywhere. 1421
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Mayor McLewis: And so I know the challengeswith trying to get all ofthis here. And I think the biggest thingthat I… that strikes me is that we're lessthantwo square miles. We have all ofthis space everywhere, yet everyone wants to cram it in these less than two square miles, and it's a challenge, and then it puts the burden on all of us, so… 1422
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Mayor McLewis: right now, I'm really concerned about what would… the environmental impacts on theLaguna. I mean, I…
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MayorMcLewis:havea friend rightnow who'sresearchingmicroplastics,and thelong-term health impacts that that has, soI would like tounderstand moreof that, and I'm with Councilmember Zollman as far as, you know, ifwe did explorethis going forward. 1424
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Mayor McLewis: And I understand that it's no fault of yours, but at the same time, we have a council member who sits on the board for WESCO, and I just think that havingexpended 20… whatever hours, the 20 hours,that seems to be the number that'scoming out, of taxpayerdollarson somethingthatnoneofusactuallyapproved,it'sa realshame.It'sa real shame, and I, too,would like to see a newagenda item coming forward to ensure that this doesn't
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MayorMcLewis:happen again.Soif theywerewillingtoreimburseforthat,andthen,you know, reimburse for any type of stuff going forward, I could… I personally would be okay with that, but at this point.
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Mayor McLewis: you know, there would have to be some… us all talking about this and putting very str… for me, putting very strongguardrails around this, because, again, I'm a no-gofordowntown completely,and…and…
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Mayor McLewis: at theLaguna, there would have to be a lot of environmental studies, and all of… everythingwould need to be paid for byWestco, so that's where I'm at withthis. I don't know…
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MayorMcLewis:IhaveCouncilmemberCarter,if youhaveanythoughtson allthis? 1429
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Mayor McLewis: Since you're the last one.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure I have thoughts for days, but I'll try to limit it justa touch.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: First off, I had no idea I was getting into 20 hours worth of work asking tosee if we could even just dothis. 1432
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, I'm reaching out onbehalf of the soccer club who's desperate to get a place for allthe kids to play. We need a place to play so badly, and I've been looking around for 3 years, and some… some other coachesbrought this 1433
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: idea to me, and then, you know, I had brought it up to, Danielle, just trying to activate thedowntown, just trying to make things exciting for us to basketball, just trying to make it cool to be downtown, and all thesesoccerfields would have nets over them.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sothe balls aren't gonna go flying all over the place, and, you know, I'm sure we could manage kids walking across the street. So I just really…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Naively, did not think that thiswas… 1436
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: a badthing at all. I thought it was an extreme winwin. 1437
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And…that's why I brought it up. It's like, A, 1438
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: hey, we have this opportunityto put a soccer field here, we can make it gorgeous, bring other people down, and that's a reason to put a hotel here in the first place. Why are people coming here? Well, if we have soccer games and soccer tournaments, people will build a hotel. I mean, that's, like, a reason to build a hotel. 1439
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, you know, I'm doing my job to, like, try to bring somethinghere, and then, you know, now we're gonna sit with, like, 1440
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: like, agreen dead space for a little while longer, because we're worried that, you know, like, a little bit of life is going to preclude the TOT, but we're kind ofchoppingoff our nose, despite our face, because we're not, you know, developinganythingthat'sfun forthearea.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, so that's why I wanted to bring this, especially downtown, and possibly to the Youth Annex, too, because all I can envision is families walking over toMimi's, or walking down the street, or hanging out in Barlow while otherfun thingshappen.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then, you know, if the major concern is, like, you know, environmental, like, if we can just pocket it, and there are alot ofnew ways to buildsoccerfieldsnow.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, you know, we can have different kinds of surfaces. There are Nike Grind soft surfaces that don't have themicroplastics in them. 1444
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sothere are a number ofthings that, in a parking lot that arerarely usedthat… I mean, it really israrely, rarely, rarely used. And if we… if we can blend it beautifullyso that it doesn't seem like it's just plonked down in the backside of the parking lot.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So it seems like almost even a view of the land… it actually augments theLaguna atmosphere. You know, it would beautify the space, it would make the Laguna evenmore attractive as aplace to be. Like, what areyou gonna dowhile you drop your kid off?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for a little bit of practice, I'm gonna take a walk around the Laguna, and maybe get a glass of wine or somethinglike that. So I only had positive thoughts when I brought this.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, you know, I'm really sorry about the process, but it certainly wasn't, you know, my intention, and I'm absolutely… you know, I have to go to Wesco. I can't just out and say, like, hey, you know, Wesco will pay forit. I don't speak for Wesco, you know what I mean?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But, you know, being the organizationthat we are, how much we're growing, and how much the interest is in having something likethis. 1449
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: in Sebastopol, and how critical I think it is, not only for the youth to have some third place to be, but also for our economy, you know, to have some morereasons to come here.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That'sreason to, like, look into some ofthese, you know, outer experiences. Like, you know, like.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Daniele said, like, you know, hey, this is worth nothing to me.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: why would I preclude, you know, not building my, hotel because the soccer field's there? Or what is the real risk of another soccer field coming in for profit that's gonna maketheir $8million worth it? 1453
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because we were looking around for soccer fields for alloverthe place. We're either gonna have to pay $1.5 million or something likethat for a piece of property outside the county, or we'regonna have to pay $1.5million to fix Regal, or we're gonna have topay, like, $45,000 a month just so the kids canplay for almost free. 1454
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But then here we have a chance to build a free park.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, you know, with the same kind of, you know, format as the baseballfields, and provide all this joy and all this opportunity for, you know, economic development and all ofthat.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, you know, that's… that was my passion. That is why I… I brought it with the naivety that I had,you know, without thinking about, yeah, we can poke holes in all kinds of efforts.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But, you know, this is something that, you know, would bring joy, and I'll just… I'll just kill it with that, because you have to know what the passion wastobringit.
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Mayor McLewis: Councilmember Hinton. I just want to say, I didn't mention before, but I'm going to mention it now. I'm really dismayed by this whole process, andI just want to call out a couple things, and I thinkthere's education that canbe gained in here. 1460
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Mayor McLewis: you know, there's a lot of different things to lookat, and it's unfortunate, butlookingattheoptics,theethicalorlegalconflictsthathappen here,and Iheard Daniele talking about, we're going togive a free lease to Wesco, andwe have acouncil member who'son theboard forWescowho'schampioningthis,and makingdecisionsabout… Agenda Item Number 3
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about what happens with that property forPiazza, so I just want to point allthose things out. I'm not making anyaccusations
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Mayor McLewis: I'm just sayingthat we as council members areheld to a higher standard. We make the laws here, we have a lot of different things we have to look at, so I know that you, you know, I fully believe that everything that you did here was, youknow,fullywith good intent. I just thinkthat there needs to be more, like, visibility andthought about, you know, and thenalso driving staff to spend 20…
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Mayor McLewis: 20 hours or whatever on projects. I mean, just as council members, we have to think about all of these things, and
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Mayor McLewis: And at the end ofthe day, I completely understand that you're saying naively that you went into this, but we can't do that ascouncil members because we actually have to make the decisions and set the laws, soI'm just a little concerned about all ofthat, so it really… it's… it's bothersome tome. So, go ahead, Councilmember Hinton. 1464
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Imean, I just wanted to say again, because I think I spoke first, but, I don't.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I, Imean, I don't expect Wesco. It's our air. We're obviously going to bring an agenda item forward to set some parameters. I do know 1466
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: having sat onthe council for quite a few years now, this isn't the first time something like thishas happened, so I don't… I'm not… I'm not saying it's okay, but I'm also saying I understand, and 1467
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I still think that if, 1468
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Westco is interested in pursuing with a different environmentally,sound
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Andchecks out into the environment here. 1470
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Imight be willing to support that ifthey're willing to pay moving forward to vet that out.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, I… I also sit on thefair board as an appointeeof SupervisorHopkins,and I'msureyou'veallread in thepaperthatsoccer fields are being lookedat at the fairgrounds, sponsored and supported. 1472
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: by both the county andcityofSanta Rosa, so I know that there's a desperate need in thecounty, and there are soccerfields, I believe, being worked on a variety offronts. So,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it's… it's hard… we got a lot ofletters on this, all in supportof this.Idon'twanttodash everybody,becauseyouprobablydidn'tknow protocol, right? And… and ifyou want to pursue an environmentally… in a situation, I don't want to 1474
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Just have you walk out of here like, you know? 1475
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: disheartened, or that council, we just want to make sure that we move forward in an appropriate way, so I just… Agenda Item Number 3
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, we have to do some work on our side, and if you guys, withhearing our comments, want tomove forward. 1477
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't know, I just don't want to dash. I understand Councilmember Carter probably just went about this like, whoa! 1478
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm excited! I understand. Yeah, that's… that's what it looks like.
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MayorMcLewis:Thanks,Mayor,youhad yourhand up.
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Mayor McLewis: Vice Mayor?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, thank you. I'm just gonna guess andpredict that if this vote does move forward for putting soccer fields next to theyouth annex, that therewillbesignificantpushback
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For environmental reasons. 1483
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, like, the Laguna… Laguna de Santa Rosa, the, you know, the wetlands people, the waterpeople, I mean, I just… it's gonna be considerable, and that will take a lot of time and a lot ofmoney. 1485
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To process allthat, and there'll be, anyway, studies, secrets, etc, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anyway, I'm in favorof lookingat the… a shortterm possibility at the hotel lot. Agenda Item Number 3
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center:-Oh.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah.
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MayorMcLewis:Okay.
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Mayor McLewis: Well, it sounds like we… so wehave… so you're… we have… Sandy, you're… Vice Mayor, you're saying that you're in support of downtown. We have… 1491
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Mayor McLewis: Let's see, I'm just trying to think here, because we don't have any motions here.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I would support it, because I think it would activate the town, and it would be a short-term
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It'd beshort-term. 1494
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Mayor McLewis: So you're supportive of downtown, but not the Laguna, and I'm not supportive of downtown. We have Councilmember Dolman, who I believe you said you're notsupportiveofdowntown,concerned about,theLaguna,and alsowhetherornot, 1495
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Mayor McLewis: Westco would be willing to compensate for the20 hours. We have Councilmember Hinton, who's supportive withenvironmental studies, 1496
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Mayor McLewis: from the Laguna, but not supportive of downtown. So, it sounds to me like we have 3 people who are not supportive of downtown right now, so I think the question remains is what… where we're at as far as theLaguna.
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Mayor McLewis: That seems to be the one that's in question, and what do we do with that, and whatkind of guardrailsthatwedothere? So,Idon'tknow ifanyonehasany additional…
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Mayor McLewis: comments, and I'm… and I was just gonna say, Councilmember Carter, I know I didn't mention what… I'm… I'm making an assumption that you're supportive of it all, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I havemore ideas, but no, no,no, I'm sorry, not to be cheeky. I just want to say that we wouldcover costs, like, I know that that's aconcern. That's not something that we want to cause the city.
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Mayor McLewis: Well, I just wasn't sure, because you had said you don't speak for West Coast, so I don't know.Do you speak for West Coast, or you don't speak for West Coast? 1501
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't speak for Wesco, but we already committed to, like, if we look at the,
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SebastopolCommunityCulturalCenter:theyouth annexin a differentway.Wealreadyhad the assumption that we were going to pay some costs to look at it. 1503
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, inthat way, the back costs for it, I think I can make the assumptionthat theboard would, but yeah, again, I don't speak… 1504
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll stop speaking. 1506
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I support everything. 1507
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Mayor McLewis: Okay, so the question I have for everyone here is just with the Laguna. 1508
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Mayor McLewis: that seems to be the sticking point with us. We knowthat Vice Mayor, is notin supportof doingtheLaguna
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MayorMcLewis:Wehave…
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Mayor McLewis: Councilmember Hinton, who is… who is in favor of doing Laguna with environmental studies,is that correct, my…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And can I just clarify from the attorney one more time?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What… the adviceyou gave us before, there's no way to do…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We could re… for the downtown site, we could… 1514
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: enter into an agreement withWesco about their use and how longthatwould last, but once we change thezoning,there is a risk that some other third party couldcome in and…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, so that's a no-go forme, for sure. Can't do downtown, can't have a soccer field inthe middle of downtown permanently. 1516
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Mayor McLewis: So what if… sowith, with, it sounds like, Councilmember Zollman, canyou reiterate what your thoughts were on, the Laguna, just so that we understand what guardrailsyouwant…you'resayingyouwant?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, I mean…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: ifthere is a majority, all they have to do is call Ann McGrel from the Laguna… that'll savethem, like, a ton of money, because I think Councilmember
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Maurer is correct. It's gonna be petition. We're gonna end up dragging the City Counciland staff through 1520
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: tons and tons ofthings, which makes it just so much more irritatingthat we have spent so much timefrom staff, apart from other things that the five of us haveagreed on, and how many hours tonight when one phone call to Ann McGraw would have just resolvedthe wholething? So, if there is a will to do it. 1521
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: then just push the money that that would cost, the 10 minutes to talk to her on the soccer group, and if they do agree with it, then that's great. I'm fine with voting for that, because
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: if she's going to clear it, it's good. If she's gonna say no, and all of a sudden we're going to get the environmentalists in here, then I want to know that too, becauseI don't want to deal with all that. I don't wanttodeal with thecost and theexpense.
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MayorMcLewis:Goahead,ViceMayor.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, it's not going tobe just Ann Morekell. There'll be, you know, it's the Zero Waste Group. They've already discussed this, and they're coming out with a moratorium onartificial turf, and we're talking about putting artificial turf in a floodplain.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just think that's very, very serious. I just… it's hard for me to believe that thiscouncil would think that that was an okay thing to do. 1526
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This floods. It floods here. 1527
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And…Yeah.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: piggyback onthat, when I wasthe council's, liaison tothe… whatever it was, it was not zerowaste. 1529
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: well, there's that, and thenthe other technical one that none of us aregoing to anymore, because Sonny backed out on. They were talking about the moratorium on turf, so thanks forbringingthat up. So, now that makesme think that this is just…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We'vespent so much time tonight, and staff time, on an issue that clearly, if it were a simple agenda item that we'veall done in the past, where it's like 5 votes, yes or no, forcontinuedstaff time, it would have been15-minute discussion.
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MayorMcLewis:Goahead,CouncilmemberCarter,youhad yourhand up before. 1532
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I actually havea questionabout the zoning. You say it's, like, permanent zoning. If we can flip zoning fora conditional use once, is it not revocable or a sunset?Because that would solve that problem. It doesn't sunset. You can changezoningin thefuture.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thereare issues in general about spot zoning to take
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: a useaway from one particular property. We haven't done any of that analysis of whetherwe could do that, but there… 1535
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: thereare restrictions on acity's ability to take awaya use.In the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: underour code, and most codes, once you establish a use, even if you change the zoning,the existing use is allowed to continue as a legalnon-conforminguse,and Ithinkourcodesaysnew usescan comein aslongasthe use doesn't,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center:cease for 180 days or more. So… 1538
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, it's up to the council, you know, whetherit's
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Willing to takethose risks, you know. 1540
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: or take West Coast representation of property owners that, you know,this will end temporarily?
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Mayor McLewis: this is so hard. I mean, I'm trying to figure out how to get to a yes forthese kids who want to play soccer, but these are not… neither of these places are ideal, in my opinion. I'm trying to figure out, you know, I… I'm with CouncilmemberZolman as far as… I mean, this could turn into, like, a huge deal between what the Vice Mayor has said and… and different folks. So, I mean, you know, if…
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Mayor McLewis: if Wesco's wanting to spend their moneythat way, I mean, they're a nonprofit, I run non-profits,money is not plentiful for nonprofits these days. 1543
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Mayor McLewis: you know, if they'd like to spend that money figuring that out, and I just, you know, I don't want any more tax dollars spent onany ofthis, at thispoint. So, you know, I'm okay ifwe can figure out how to… how to
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Mayor McLewis: You know…
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Mayor McLewis: put the guardrails around this, that this is strictlya Westco-funded thing, and… but I also don't want us to have too many hours from our staff, even if it's being reimbursed spent on this, because we're coming up on doing our goals, and we're going to have more goals that are… that are tasked withour interim city manager. We have… Agenda Item Number 3
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Mayor McLewis: you know, we have a numberof other things that aregoing on in thecity, so, I mean, I think it should be, like, to Councilmember Zolan's point, you know, it could turn intoa big thing.
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Mayor McLewis: Mayorsaid that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: through the mayor, thismay make everything more complicated, but if the council wanted, we could explore, andofcourse, subject to whatever
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: guardrails the council wanted. If there was some way for us to enter intoan agreement with thepropertyowner to put some deed restriction on the property to prohibit the soccer use.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Eventhough it would be allowed by the zoning to prohibit it after3 years.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That'ssomething… I don't know, I haven't thought that through about whether that's feasible or not, but if that's something that Council wants us to explore, that might be a waythat even though thezoning would allowit, we'd have sort of a deed restriction onthe property.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To… to enforce that. 1553
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Mayor McLewis: Go ahead, Councilmember. Imean, Vice Mayor. 1554
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, if there's any waythat that could be workable,somekind of a short-term solution so that theycould use that hotel site, because I'd rather see that activated, and withpeople and kids and families, thanhave it just sitting there emptyfor the next year and a half. 1555
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Mayor McLewis: I was just gonna say, I mean,even if… even if that were the case, I mean, I haveotherconcerns.Imean,Ihaven'teven broughtup zone…youknow,wehaveconcerns with parking.I'vehadbusinessownersreach outtomealreadyaboutconcerns about parking and wherethey're, you know, we already have thefarmer's market that takes up Agenda Item Number 3
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parking on Sundays, and I've been getting, youknow, texts and emails,so I'm just… I'm voicing my concern… Istill have many other concerns about a downtown location, so… 1556
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Mayor McLewis: I'm sorry, Councilmember Hinton?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I was gonna say, with those kinds of deed restrictions, Imight bewilling to investigate and support the downtown location. When I hearparking,Ialwaysthinkthatpeoplecan walka littlebit,especially 1558
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We always had to park a longway when our… my kidsplayed sportsand soccer,awayfromthefieldsand walk. 1559
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so I might be able to support something like that. But thenthe big question for Wesco is they're investing inthis big field, and they gotta have a plan to wherethey're gonna move it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And they don't have a place to move it, ifthat's what we're approving. So, I mean, it would have to be atwo-fold, right?Hotel, two years, or whatever,and then…oh,lovely.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The birds like the window, okay. Oh, it's a bat? Oh, great, a bat.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sorry, and I said that on mic. 1563
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But anyway, Westco would have to have aplace and plan…a place tomove it sothat we were assured
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it was… You know, a tight agreement, and then… 1565
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Everybody would rather pay attention to the bed. I just have a slightlydifferent question. They're in my house all thetime, they're not gonna fussyou.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's bad.
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Mayor McLewis: Can you take a second, or…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Very, very confused bat. It'll be… it'll be a moment. Oh, is it a moth?
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MayorMcLewis:Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That is a giant moth! 1571
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, it's not fantastic. There's a giant moth in the room flying around, so… Anyway, I have this question, like, I mean. 1572
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Mayor McLewis: One second. Are we okay withmoving forward, everyone? I just want to make sure, because everyone's distracted.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I havea different kind of question, and that's, like, could we just, could… could Wesco spend some money for some stafftime just to… 1574
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thinkabout other options orsomething like that that's neither this fieldnor that field, or is it just, like, you know, it's too much? 1575
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Which, which I understand also. 1576
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Mayor McLewis: Who are you asking that to? I'm not sure. Go ahead. 1577
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Ifwe could submit a preliminary application, we could take it inthat direction.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But we would have to have some specifics. What is… Like a preliminary application, if thecouncil wanted to look at, like, the city attorney just stated, you know, to review the deed or something likethat, wecould take in… it's called a preliminary, soit's not the whole formal use permit or CEQA, things like that. 1579
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And Idon't have thecost infront of me right now, what that cost is for preliminary.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Right,but we could look at…you know. 1581
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Looking… looking into that, because that's complicated. Okay.
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Mayor McLewis: Vice Mayor.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, in terms of the parkingconcerns, because I share those concerns,but I think maybe, thePiazza Danielli suggested that there's a little overflow on Brown Street, so
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: mythought is that Wesco can communicate with their people, right? Youcommunicate wellwithyour families, so if youmake it clearthat if there'snoparkingon Brown,ortheBrown overflow,then theparkinggoesto 1585
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: possibly the Barlow overflow parking lot, which is not really being used that much right now. But if there was communications and your families could follow through with that, thenthey could walk from theoverflow parking to thedowntown lot.
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Mayor McLewis: I thinkwe have to be careful. That's a… is the Barlow parking lot a private parking lot? We don't have authority over that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I've been told that Barney supports this project, so that… so he would need to be communicated,but there's also the parking lot at CVS, but then you'd have tocross the street there. It's pretty… if there's a way that, the Barlowcould, approveof that,so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah.
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Mayor McLewis: Alright, so…
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Mayor McLewis: This is… we're still not straight on where we're movinghere. We're… we have a pretty divided,
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Mayor McLewis: folks here tonight. So, I personally haveconcerns with bothof them. I'm still not… I'm still not… I'm stillnot keen on… on downtown. Happy to be okay with them doing an environmental study to look at the annex, because 1592
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MayorMcLewis:tome,downtown is…and changingzoningand doingallthesethings,I just… it's also going to get very expensive for Westco to be funding all of this stuff. 1593
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Mayor McLewis: So forme, I'm okay with doingenvironmental… having them do the environmental study, talk with the people, figure out if that's even possible by the annex. That'swhereI'mat,soIdon'tknow if anyone'schanged wherethey'reat. 1594
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, Imean, I could throw in,it's like, Wesco is fine with working through what Mary and Alex have said about exploring sometype of, whatever you just said,Mary, for the place, thepiazza. 1595
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: then yes, if they're prepared to pay forwhatever it's going to cost to do what we're to use, conditional something… Preliminary. Preliminary, whatever, for that site, then yes, I'm fine withthat. I just don't want topayanymoremoney, quite honestly, until I get a full-fledged something in writing. 1596
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: like astaff report like we're used to, I don't really want to discuss that anymore, either tonight.
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Mayor McLewis: Vice Mayor?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Me too.
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Mayor McLewis: Okay, and then, andas far as… I guess, let me look at the… them here, what are all… what allthe direction you need,Mary, because we're not… I'm not sure that we're clear on,the other site. You need a direction forboth, is that correct?I'm sorry, I'm trying to look through the item.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We just need whatever direction the Council wants to give. So, rightnow, I've heard from the direction from the Council is. 1602
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Iftheysubmit a preliminary application, staff can workon exploringthefeasibilityof a downtown site.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: no decisions about that. That'll still have to come back to the Council, but…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: explore the feasibility of whether there's a way to have a temporary use at the downtown site. And otherthanthat, I haven't heard any direction from amajority of the council.
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Mayor McLewis: I think it would be… in my opinion, it would be who Wesco to have that conversation with theLaguna folksand everyoneelseand explorethatbeforea lotof money is invested intoany of that, because it could turn into a bigthing. That's where I'm at with that. I don't know.
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Mayor McLewis: I feel like they need to have some direction asfaras each site, whether or not… where we stand with this, sothey're not spinning their wheels and not clear on what the next steps are for them.
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MayorMcLewis:Isanyoneelse?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Ithinkwhat's on the table, with 3 people is a preliminaryapplication forthedowntown.
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Mayor McLewis: I understand that, I'm just trying to, like, look at both options, because that's what was presented to us.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Fair… that's very fair. And, yeah. 1611
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Mayor McLewis: So does anyone have any feedback on that, or are we just going to table that one?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I've got…
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Mayor McLewis: Go ahead, Vice Mayor, I'm sorry.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No, I'd just like to leave it off the table for environmentalreasons.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, I would second that, leave it off the table. I don't want to bring us into another scuttle witha whole bunch of group. We have a lot of things, no staff and nomoney.
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Mayor McLewis: Yeah, okay, alright, so it sounds like… 1617
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Mayor McLewis: It sounds like you have some direction there. 1618
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Mayor McLewis: Do we need a vote?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, so it would be direction to city staff towork with Westco to, requirethem to submit forpreliminary application, understanding it is a deposit account to payfor staff time, to review, potential options suchasa deed restriction on the downtown hotellot.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And no consideration of the youth annex, is that correct?
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Mayor McLewis: Yes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So,city staff has instruction. 1623
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MayorMcLewis:Okay.
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Mayor McLewis: So… oh, Vice Mayor?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's… it was direction. You don't need a vote on the direction.
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Mayor McLewis: Okay, alright, just wanted tomake sure. 1629
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Mayor McLewis: Thank you. I was waiting, I thought, I was, like, waiting, thinking you were going to say somethingelse. Okay, so let's seehere, the… how are wedoing? We're at 10 o'clock.Okay,so number13,considerationofapprovalofCity Councilprotocols, 1630
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Mayor McLewis: Do you want me to read through all of this, 1631
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Mayor McLewis: Yeah, I guess I will since I'm onthat. Additionof mandatory training added to policy number6. Fiscal and financial training, SB 827, effective January 1, 2026. All local agency officials must complete at least 2 hours of fiscal and financialtrainingevery2 years. Newly appointed or elected officialsmust complete the training within 6 months of assuming office.
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Mayor McLewis: Officials serving prior toJanuary 1, 2026 must complete it by January 1, 2028, unless their term ends earlier.
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Mayor McLewis: B, policies. Policy number11,use of travel funds for City Council. City Council conferences and training. This incorporates approved City Council resolution. Policynumber12,ethicsand professionalpersonalconductincorporatesapproved City Councilresolution.
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Mayor McLewis: Policynumber 13, process ofcity council meetings. 1635
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Mayor McLewis: Policynumber 14, conflicts ofinterest and ex parte communications. Policy number 15, best practices for council members. Mary, who… 1636
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Soyou just gave the staff report. 1638
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Mayor McLewis: I just figured I'm on the ad hoc, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The ad hoccommittee, consisting of the Mayor and the Vice Mayor andmyself, has been continuing to create the CityCouncil Protocols Handbook.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Theseadditional, policies areincorporated. Some of them have been in other documents, such as the travelpolicywithin the budget, so we're trying to incorporate everything in one, you know, one document. 1641
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Therewas a request to put inthere how a meeting is run. We've added that. We've added information about conflict of interest and ex parte communications. And then we've also added
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: separate from the training, which is the ethics training,sexualharassmenttraining,andtherewasa new required trainingthatweadded Agenda Item Number 3
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aswellon financialmanagement.There'salsoa policyon professionaland personal conduct.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Ethical leadership, respectfultreatment, fiscal responsibility, positive work enforcement, andthen incorporating the current code of conduct intothis policy as well.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then best practices of, basically how the council interacts with city staff, with other boards and commissions, duringcouncil meetings, and then when they're doing outside representation. So, those policies are attached
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SebastopolCommunityCulturalCenter:ForCouncilconsideration andapproval,and then we will continue to bring items back as we continue to, create protocols for the handbook. 1646
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MayorMcLewis:Alright,anyquestions? Oh,goahead,CouncilmemberHinton. 1647
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, looking at the report on page 9, which is just, Agenda Item Number 3
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: kind of how the meeting goes. It's… it's included. The mayor will provide information on the history of Sebastopol. 1649
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And Iunderstand that that's what we're doing this year,because…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: our current mayor wants that to kind of be her… her thing for the year, but, I'm… I'm concernedthat it's used in the example 1651
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because it's not something that we've all… 1652
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Agreed to makea permanent situation. So, should it be on this example on page 9?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, I'll jump into… I was surprised to see that, too. If it's going to be part of the example, then I would not want that, because whoever's the mayor, they may have something else theywant to do. We couldcertainly… 1654
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: add, you know, if desired, or something like that. We just wanted to reflect that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What's occurring now is, youknow, part of… 1656
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: theprocess. You know, sowecould change that to say.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, may ormay instead of will, and then, you know, it's up to the mayor. Well, I take out a history of spasful mayor. It should say something like, may ormay…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center:create, I don't know, anuance, or I don't know, something else, because it is…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: up to the mayor. I mean, when Stephen was mayor, Ithink he madea permanent land acknowledgement, I think… but… 1660
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: or whatever. We discuss that as a goal, and that is part of our regular protocol that we've all five agreed on. So, if we don't all five agree, then I don't think it should belisted on this page.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: bump.
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Mayor McLewis: I swear.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Eventhough I understand themayor can do it this year, is fine with me.
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Mayor McLewis: Vice Mayor?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just agree that it shouldn't be part of the formal process. I understand it's the process for this year, but this document is not necessarily about just this year, it's about an ongoing process, so I thinkthat that, 1666
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for this document. 1668
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Mayor McLewis: Or if we just… should we… should we… I mean, just assuming that mayor… becauseI…Ihearallof you,and yeah,Idon'tmakeanyassumption anyonewantstodo that, but… but mayor…the mayor may want todo something, so what would be the proper wording to give that, tohave, like, just a placeholder sothat the mayor… 1669
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Mayor McLewis: Like, I don't… I don't have theword for that either. Nuance, whatever. Do you,Alex?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We could say may ormay… Provide… 1671
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: information orcomments on topic relevant toCiti, or something generic like that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, that'd be acceptable tome, because we've honored people in ourcity that have passed. Some… occasionally, themayor's donethat. There's different things,so something like that would be… Yeah, so we could change that to say mayor may provideinformation
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: on… topics… relevant to Sebastopol community. 1674
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Mayor McLewis: But that's generic enough that it gives… it's a place… for me, it's… but I'm okay with that wordy.
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Mayor McLewis: Okay, any other questions?
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Mayor McLewis: From anyone? No? I know it's getting late. Okay. Well, if we don't have any questions, then we can, go out to public comment, Mary. 1677
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou. So this is for public comment on the proposed protocols forthe City Council Handbook. If you'd like to make a public comment, I will go toChambers first, and then go out to Zoom. It is a2-minute time limit. Is there anyonein Chambers?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment. Kyle, can you unmute yourself, please?
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KyleFalbo:Ican.
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Kyle Falbo: Yes I can.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Great,go ahead, please. 1683
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Kyle Falbo: So I'm hoping that this is one of many conversations arounda City Council handbook. I thinkthat improving on processes is really an important thing to do. I think that,
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Kyle Falbo: watching this Council operate over the last few years and identifying, like, needs for change and practices, these are all great things. Where I'm hoping that you put someenergyand focusis,engagementwith thepublic.Waysin which youengage with publiccomment,and,maybeeven
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Kyle Falbo: What valuedo you believe public comment brings to the decision-making process?
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Kyle Falbo: You can demonstrate that value by revisiting our processes that are in this handbook,and
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Kyle Falbo: going back to what we had had previously, rather than sticking to what wehave now, which is a 2-minute time-allotted period.Again.
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Kyle Falbo: Great that you're handling, lookingat this handbook. I lookforward to further improvements, as Mary had suggested, furtherprotocols being brought in, and I'm hoping that engagement with the public becomes a priority, that gets brought in aswemove forward.Thanks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou, Kyle, for your public comment. Next, I will come back intochambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go back out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment to please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed. 1693
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Mayor McLewis: Alright, thank you. We're back to comments, if anyonehas any comments. 1694
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Mayor McLewis: Vice Mayor?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I justwanted to thank our interim city manager for her work on this. Thankyou.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, Iwould make a motion to, 1697
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: adopt the policies11through15 tobe incorporated in theCityCouncilPoliciesand ProceduresHandbook.Seconded. 1698
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MayorMcLewis:Alright.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou. So moved by Vice Mayor Maurer, and seconded byCouncilmember Zolman. I'm sorry, can I amendthat…ask that a motion be amended to reflect what we just stated, where, the spousal history be removed, and that the mayor may providecomments on topics relative to the spousal community? Yes. 1700
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay,so moved by Vice Mayor Maurer and seconded byCouncilmember Zolman to approve the policiesas amended, as I just stated, for the Mayor to provide comments on topics relative tothe spousal community. Councilmember Carter? Yes. CouncilmemberHinton? Aye. Councilmember Zolman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer? Yes. Mayor McLewis?
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Mayor McLewis: Yes.
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Mayor McLewis: Okay, perfect. Now, let's see.Additional public comment. 1704
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou, Mayor. So this is the second public comment period. Ifyou were not able to talk duringthe first publiccomment period, now is an opportunity. If you'dlike to make a public comment and you were not able to,again, speak during the first public comment, pleaseraise your hand virtually. 1705
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, inchambers? 1706
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, there's no… oh,Kyle, can you unmit yourself,please?
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Kyle Falbo: So, I hadthis brilliant idea. All you have to do is maybe just say water a couple times in association with the, the exploration of the soccer, and then what you can do is you can justify trying tobuild the enterprise fund
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Kyle Falbo: For all of those 20-plushours.
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Kyle Falbo: So, again, stays within past practice, right? This city has been charging the Enterprise Fund for activities that would normally be billed to GeneralFund for years, right? So again, just say water a few times, say sewage a few times, and thenwe can just go ahead andcoverall of the cost of our entire meeting
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Kyle Falbo: to the Enterprise Fund.
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Kyle Falbo: you've been doing it for years, why not continue the practice? And there we go. We just saved the general fund a shit tonof money on the backs ofpeople, just wanting to flush their toilets. Thanks a lot.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thankyou, Kyle, for your public comment. Next, I will come back intochamber. Seeing that inchamber, I go back out toZoom. If there's anyoneon Zoom,pleaseraiseyourhandvirtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed for the second publiccomment period.
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MayorMcLewis:Thankyou.
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Mayor McLewis: Now we are at, just… doany council members have any future agenda items that you'd like to… Go ahead, Councilmember Zolman. 1716
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah,a simple one, just to reiterate the importance of filling out the agenda item request form. It could not bemore clear. 1717
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Mary insists, and for some ofus that aretrying to just send her an emailwith, like, I'm thinking about, like, requesting something on a future agenda item, rightfully so, she just ignored it. It needs to be filled out on the form, and it needs to be an acknowledgement of, will this item
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: takeasignificant, I think that's the wording, significant amount of time. If so, how many hours? And then there's a justification, andthen there's a protocol.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, that's my agenda item request, for the Mayor and the Vice Mayor to figure out, does it need to be part of a protocol, or dowe need to just take a solemn oath that we will reallyread the form, andwe will be… 1720
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It comes down to ourcharacter, too. If staff is saying, this is going to take a significant amount oftime, then we just back off, or staff says, here's a way to do it, just bring it up as an informational request tosee if your other colleagues will agree to have a significant amount ofmoney spent, not just blindly 1721
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't know, coercing, puttingpressure, sending emails to staff? Whereare you on this issue? And not evenrealizing the fact that they're not evenstaffed.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: They're consultants. So Iguess we just need a recommitment to understandingand abiding by the terms of the agenda item request form. I mean, I thought it wasa no-braineruntiltonight.
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Mayor McLewis: And I'll, I'll support you onthatif we need to, to… so… 1724
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MayorMcLewis:Anyoneelse?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm interested in actually bringing forthan agenda item that would takeminor items under acertain cost of $1,000 or $2,000, and not bringing everything to Budget Subcommittee and bringing someof these requests straight to Council.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I would like to move that, if I have a second, that I can, put in that.
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Mayor McLewis: I'll second it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: gender request, yeah. Thank you. I just, yeah, I think it was unfortunate that we had to approvesomethingafter the event hadalready happened tonight.
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Mayor McLewis: Vice Mayor?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I justwant to clarify that, because I think what you're wanting is for, the group not to have to pay it up front. 1731
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Right? So, like… No, that's not what I'm clarifying. I think we make every nonprofit pay it up front, and then just, like, AppleBlossom, and then they… we will discount it back.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I just don't understand why these small nonprofit things that used to just come beforeall of us are now all being budgeted… funneled through Budget Subcommittee.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay,so it's not a timingthing. It's a… I think… I understood that was brought to us late because our policy currently requires it go to Budget Subcommittee.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And Idon't think it should forsmall little items. 1735
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, can I just jump in here real quick? I think we need to bring it back asan agenda item, because there are times where 1736
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I will take Apple Blossom foran example. They don't pay in advance because we don't know what their staff time is. 1737
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, ifthey're asking for a waiver fee for, like, police time, or public works time, or supplies and materials, we won't know that until after. So, take Apple Blossom out of it. I don't think smallthings should have to run through budget subcommittee. They never used to. I think it's unnecessary. 1738
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MayorMcLewis:Okay.
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Mayor McLewis: Did CouncilmemberCarter, you had your hand up, right? 1740
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, I would consider seconding this, because, you know, not everything has to gothroughtheBudget Committee. If there's, like, a way to make it more, you know, systematic and kind of, like, low-value, because… I just wanted to check. We don't need afull-on discussion. We're just, like, there's a… there's a… 1741
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: proposal. There's a second. It's on the agenda. Let'smovethecalendaralong,please.Thanks.
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MayorMcLewis:Alright?
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Mayor McLewis: Let me… sorry, I moved my paper. The next thing we have here is staff reports.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Reminder that we havea goals and priorities workshop next week. For those council members that did not providegoals, if you wanted to provide them to me today or tomorrow, I can incorporatethem, or you could bring them to the workshop on Tuesday.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We did get about, 150,160 responses for the survey, that I'llbe bringing those items back, as well. 1746
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For transparency, we did do recruitment for planningdirector,andwewereunsuccessfulwith theplanningdirectorrecruitment. 1747
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We are going back out. We are also hiring for an associate planner. I'vebeen talking to HR andconsulting firms, and there's been a couple good recruitments lately for planning associates, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We may be more successful in that direction right now.ButifIdon'tfind a planningdirector,we'd probablyhavetobringthisbackfora request for proposals.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And,we are almost fully staffed in the police department now. We are going through background checks, so we should be close to fully staffed by the beginning of the fiscal year.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And Ibelieve that is… oh,theMiller Oil, I just wanted to put it out there that the owner is working with us to remove the boats. 1751
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And the cars, she had apersonal issue that popped up, so now she's back onto it, so we are doing that. We are also working with the barbecue place down on South Main Street, and trying to resolve that issue down there with the smoke.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that is all I have. 1753
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MayorMcLewis:Alright.
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MayorMcLewis:Thankyou.
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Mayor McLewis: Council members, anyone want to go? We have10 minutes here, so hopefully…Goahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: My sweetheart okay, let's see, where'd it go? 1757
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: zero-waste meeting, they approved their budget, and then just two joint budget and enterprise oversight committee meetings. We met twice, thisweek andlastweek.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And we worked on thecost allocation plan. 1759
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, this week we worked onthe CIP. 1760
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We also looked at the enterprise water and wastewater budgets.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That'sit.
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MayorMcLewis:Thankyou.
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Mayor McLewis: Anyone else, or I can go, if noone else? 1764
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Inaddition to my other, regular meetings, the Homeless Coalition Board andthe various subcommittees that I serve on in order to continue dealing with what our federaladministration is doing to continue destroying safety nets all across the board, Medi-Cal, housing, etc.
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Mayor McLewis: Okay, I'm gonna goahead and just give mine really quickly. Since our last council meeting I attended, we had our ledge… our ledge meeting, and the committee did, vote to support a variety of,
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Mayor McLewis: of billsthat I'll be bringing some of those back for, to you all to consider writing letters to the city. I attended the… the gathering with theTakeo delegation, at, at,at Enji, and then also we planted a tree.
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Mayor McLewis: For… to celebrate the 40th anniversary cherry tree. It's right out there by the, Peace Well, if you'll notice it there, it's bloomingright now. That was a really nice celebration.I'vealsoattended,GTLR,theGovernance,Transparency,Labor Relations Committee, meetings with, Cal Cities, representing us as a small city. And then I also, 1768
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Mayor McLewis: let's see, today, I… we continue to have meetings, with… with the police chiefs, interim city manager, and Safeway, and, West County Schools, just, continuing to discussand…and workon the…thechallengesthatwe'vehad atSafeway,and Ifeel like we're making progresswith that.
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Mayor McLewis: But yeah, we continue to meet, you know, once every3 months, sowe had a meeting today. So that's all I have to report at this point, if anyone else has? 1770
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll goahead and go. I will submit notes from the SCTCA Transit Ad HocCommittee meeting. I know there was a lot of,questions from the public, and I sit onthat.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center:committee for, not just representatives of Aspel, but they kind of agree to have different areas represented, so I, sit in lieu of Linda Hopkins with twoother
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: or there's another supervisor,Chris Corsi, on that committee. So, I will submit that for Counciland the public, and ask Mary to send it out. 1773
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The main highlight of that meeting, which has come up a variety oftimes, is that, and I've noted it here, that thecounty has not yet started on the transportation element of the general plan, but that is where a Sebastopol bypass would beplanned,if thatwassomethingSebastopolwanted 1774
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To discuss, and that came up. 1775
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: again,in our discussion of one-way, two-way streets. So, I'm gonna go ahead and get this posted through Mary, andyou'll all get acopy. 1776
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MayorMcLewis:Thankyou.
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Mayor McLewis: Councilmember Carter, did you have anything beforewe… 1778
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Imean, I've taken up all ofyour time today, but I just… I feel like you guys need to know about Sonoma Clean Power's new, entrepreneur building, that they're…they're gonna have a $10 million building for… 1779
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Entrepreneurs to come in, and they're gonnagive them grants for their power.
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MayorMcLewis:Okay.
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Mayor McLewis: Nothing else, then I thinkwe… Mary, is there anythingelse you need? Otherwise, I consider us adjourned.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No, we are adjourned. 1783
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MayorMcLewis:Okay,thankyou.
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City Council Meeting - April 7, 2026

OKAY, LET ME CLICK OFF OF THAT, AND I WOULD SAY, CAN WE JUST CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER? GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MARY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL, FIRST?
SURE, THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?
HERE.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON? COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
PRESENT.

VICE MAYOR MAURER?
HERE.

MAYOR MCLEWIS?
HERE.

PLEASE NOTE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE IN ATTENDANCE.

ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S MOVE ON TO ABSOLUTE TO THE FLAG, IF WE CAN. I PLEDGE

ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA I NEED SOMEONE THERE TO LEAD IT FOR ME. THANK YOU. THAT'S ONE THING I LEARNED ON ZOOM, I CANNOT HEAR THE AUDIENCE WHEN THEY'RE SPEAKING. LET'S SEE. OBVIOUSLY I AM -- I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I AM ATTENDING THIS REMOTELY. IT'S BEEN POSTED ON THE AGENDA 72 HOURS AHEAD WITH MY ADDRESS. I DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN THE ROOM WITH ME. I'VE POSTED NECESSARY WITH THE HOTEL. AND I ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW

THERE ARE SOME MASSIVE STORMS THAT HAVE ROLLED INTO HERE WHERE I'M AT IN HAWAII, AND SO THE INTERNET IS A BIT SPOTTY. IF FOR SOME REASON I LOSE CONNECTION, I'M HOPING THE VICE MAYOR COULD TAKE OVER FOR ME. IT'S GOING TO GET ROUGH HERE IN JUST A BIT. SO ANY WAY, ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT. SO THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL ACKNOWLEDGES -- AND PARDON ME. I SHOULD ASK IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE THAT ANYTHING THEY NEEDED TO ADD BEFORE I MOVE ON WITH THAT? I THINK WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. SO LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT. THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL ACKNOWLEDGES THAT WE LIVE AND

WORK WITHIN THE UNCEDED ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THE SOUTHERN POMO AND THE COAST MIWOK PEOPLE. WE PAY OUR RESPECT TO THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE

GENERATIONS OF THESE PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE FEDERAL INDIANS OF GRATON RANCHERIA. AS A PART OF THIS YEAR, REMEMBERING THE HISTORY OF SEBASTOPOL, AND I JUST HAVE TWO QUICK LITTLE BLURBS, JUST TO SHARE WITH EVERYONE. THEY HAVE A BIT OF ENFORCEMENT THEME THIS TIME. IN 1966, A NEW RADAR EQUIPMENT WAS INSTALLED TO HELP SLOW DOWN CITY SPEEDERS. A LITTLE BOX WAS ACTUALLY INSTALLED, SIX-BY-NINE-BY FOUR BOX. BASICALLY IT WAS TO INCREASE THE ROLL IN A

POLICE EFFORT TO DRASTICALLY REDUCE SPEEDING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, WHEN THE RADAR WAS IN USE. THE POLICE MARKINGS MARKED, SO IT WAS CLEARLY VISIBLE, EVEN AT THE SEEING DISTANCE, APPROACHING MOTORISTS. I FIND THIS SIMPLY HUMOROUS

BECAUSE WHEN THEY ACTUALLY INSTALLED THAT AND THEY WERE DEMONSTRATING IT FOR FOLKS IN THE CITY. A YOUNG GENTLEMAN WENT SPEEDING BY IN HIS PICKUP TRUCK AT 60 MILES PER HOUR ON PETALUMA AVENUE IN A 25 MILES AN HOUR ZONE. SO I WAS JUST READING THROUGH THE OLD PAPERS, AND IT WAS KIND OF HUMOROUS. AND ACTUALLY IN 1966, THE CITY INSTITUTED A FLAT $5 FEE FOR ANYONE WHO WAS JAYWALKING. AND EVEN THOUGH THEY PAINTED, NO JAYWALKING, THE VARIOUS

PLACES THAT PEOPLE WERE WALKING OVER THE CURBS, AND NOT ADHERING TO THE LAWS, SO ANY WAY THEY INSTITUTED THE FLAT $5 FEE. WHEN I READ THESE NEWSPAPER CLIPS, IT'S QUITE INTERESTING. I HOPE SOME OF YOU WILL SPEND SOME TIME AT THE MUSEUM AND GET TO KNOW MORE PEOPLE OF SEBASTOPOL. AND I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO PROCLAMATIONS, PRESENTATIONS, AND INTRODUCTIONS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE FIVE PROCLAMATIONS TONIGHT. SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE, I GUESS I'LL GO DOWN THE LIST AS THEY'RE ON THE AGENDA. THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS THE SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH. I BELIEVE COUNCILMEMBER HINTON IS GOING TO READ THAT ONE, CORRECT? AWE, THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU FOR TURNING ME UP. YES, SO I'M STARTING OUT WITH THE TOUGHEST ONE. SO HERE WE GO. PROCLAIMING APRIL, 2026 A SEXUAL ASSAULT Agenda Item Number 3
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AWARENESS MONTH. WHEREAS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH CALLS

ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS WIDESPREAD AND IMPACTS EVERY PERSON IN EVERY COMMUNITY. SAM, AS THE ACRONYM SAYS, AIMS TO RAISE PUBLIC

AWARENESS ABOUT SEXUAL ABUSE, HARASSMENT, AND ASSAULT, AND EDUCATES COMMUNITIES ABOUT HOW TO BE INVOLVED. WHEREAS THIS YEAR, SAM'S CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS THE THEME, 25 YEARS STRONGER, LOOKING BACK, MOVING FORWARD.

CELEBRATES THE RESILIENCE OF SURVIVORS IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE WORKED FOR CHANGE. WHEREAS MOST WOMEN AND MEN ACROSS ALL SEXUAL IDENTITIES WHO

EXPERIENCE CONTACT SEXUAL VIOLENCE REPORTED THE PERSON WHO ARMED THEM IS SOMEONE THEY KNEW. AND WHEREAS 53% OF WOMEN IN OVER 29% OF MEN REPORTED EXPERIENCING SEXUAL VIOLENCE. WHEREAS 32.9% OF ADULTS WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES HAVE EXPERIENCED SEXUAL VIOLENCE, AND WHEREAS 47% OF ALL

TRANSGENDER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED AT SOME POINT IN THEIR LIVES. WHEREAS WE CELEBRATE 25 YEARS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH. WE

RECOGNIZE THE WORK STILL AHEAD, AND TOGETHER WE CAN CONTINUE TO SHIFT CULTURE, STRENGTHEN PREVENTION, AND CREATE WORLD FREE OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE.

AND WHEREAS BY STANDING IN SOLIDARITY, WE CAN BUILD A FUTURE FREE FROM

SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND CREATE A WORLD WHERE EVERYONE IS SAFE, VALUED, AND RESPECTED. NOW THERE ARE FOUR, BE IT RESOLVED, THAT OUR MAYOR, JILL MCLEWIS, ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL, PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL, 2026, SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH. AND SUCH WE MUST STRIVE TO CREATE STRONG

CONNECTED COMMUNITIES THAT TAKE CARE OF ONE ANOTHER AND MAKE DECISIONS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND WELL BEING OF OTHERS TO END SEXUAL VIOLENCE. OUR MAYOR HAS SAID ON THE 7th DAY OF APRIL, 2026. IS ANYBODY HERE FOR THIS PROCLAMATION? OKAY, THANKS.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE NEXT ONE WE HAVE IS THE WEEK OF THE YOUNG CHILD, WOTYC PROCLAMATION. I BELIEVE COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN IS READING THAT?
YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AS THE INCOMING CHAIR OF OUR CHILD CARE

PLANNING COUNCIL, I'M HONORED TO BE ABLE TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION, PROCLAIMING APRIL 11 THROUGH THE 17th AS THE WEEK OF THE YOUNG CHILD,

WHEREAS THE WEEK OF THE YOUNG CHILD IS AN ANNUAL CELEBRATION SPONSORED BY

THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE EDUCATION OF YOUNG CHILDREN, THE WORLD'S LARGEST EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION ASSOCIATION. AND WHEREAS THE WEEK OF

THE YOUNG CHILD REINFORCES OUR COMMITMENT TO ENSURING EVERY CHILD HAS ACCESS TO HIGH QUALITY, EARLY LEARNING EXPERIENCES. WHEREAS CHILDREN'S

COGNITIVE PHYSICAL, SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL LITERACY DEVELOPMENT ARE BUILT ON THE

FOUNDATION OF THE CHILD'S POSITIVE INTERACTIONS WITH ADULTS, PEERS, AND THEIR ENVIRONMENT. WHEREAS HIGH-QUALITY EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAMS PROVIDE

IMPORTANT BENEFITS TO CHILDREN, FAMILIES, AND OUR STATE AND NATIONAL ECONOMIES. WHEREAS EARLY CARE AND EDUCATION HELPS BUILD STRONG

DEVELOPMENTAL FOUNDATIONS FOR YOUNG CHILDREN DURING THE YEARS OF THE

GREATEST BRAIN DEVELOPMENT, LEADING TO POSITIVE OUTCOMES FOR INDIVIDUAL CHILDREN. AND WHEREAS INCREASING ACCESS TO HIGH-QUALITY EARLY CHILDHOOD

EDUCATION SAVES TAXPAYERS DOLLARS, MAKING WORKING FAMILIES MORE

ECONOMICALLY SECURE AND PROVIDES CHILDREN TO SUCCEED IN SCHOOL, EARNING HIGHER WAGES AND LIVE HEALTHIER LIVES. NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THAT

OUR MAYOR, JILL MCLEWIS, HAS PLACED HER -- ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL, PROCLAIMS APRIL 11 THROUGH THE 17 AS WEEK OF THE YOUNG CHILD. IN

WITNESS THEREOF, SHE HAS PLACED HER HAND ON THE GREAT SEAL OF THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL, THE 7th DAY OF APRIL, 2026. I'LL MAKE SURE OUR CHILDCARE

COORDINATOR RECEIVES THIS BECAUSE SHE'S COLLECTING THEM ON BEHALF OF ALL CITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I WILL BE READING THE NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK PROCLAMATION, AND I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. SO LET ME --

WHEREAS THIS WEEK IS A TIME TO SHOW OUR APPRECIATION INTO RECOGNIZING OUR

HEALTH SAFETY AND WELL BEING ARE OFTEN DEPEND ON THE COMMITMENT AND

STEADFAST DEVOTION OF PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS BECAUSE Agenda Item Number 3
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EMERGENCIES CAN OCCUR AT ANY TIME THAT REQUIRES POLICE, FIRE, EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE OR OTHER CRITICAL SERVICES. AND WHEREAS WHEN AN EMERGENCY

OCCURS, THE PROMPT RESPONSE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIREFIGHTERS, MEDICAL PERSONNEL IS CRITICAL TO THE PROTECTION OF LIFE AND PRESERVATION OF PROPERTY.

AND WHEREAS THE SAFETY OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS IS DEPENDENT

UPON THE QUALITY AND ACCURACY OF INFORMATION OBTAINED FROM CITIZENS WHO TELEPHONE SEBASTOPOL POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND WHEREAS PUBLIC SAFETY TELL

COMMUNICATORS ARE THE FIRST AND MOST CRITICAL CONTACT, OUR CITIZENS HAVE WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES. AND WHEREAS PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS ARE

THE SINGLE FINAL LINK FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS BY MONITORING

OUR ACTIVITIES BY RADIO, PROVIDING THEM INFORMATION, AND SECURING THEIR SAFETY. AND WHEREAS PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS HAVE ASSISTED WITH

THE APPREHENSION OF CRIMINAL SUPPRESSION OF FIRE AND TREATMENT OF PATIENTS,

THE WORK OF THESE UNFORESEEN FIRST RESPONDERS IS INVALUABLE IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. EACH OF THESE DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN DESERVE OUR HEARTFELT APPRECIATION. THAT I, JILL MCLEWIS, ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL PROCLAIM APRIL 12 THROUGH THE 18th, 2026 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK. A WITNESS WHERE I HAVE SET MY HAND IN THE GREAT SEAL ON THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL, THE 7th DAY OF APRIL, 2026. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS PRESENT TO ACTUALLY ACCEPT THAT TODAY?
THE CHIEF OF POLICE IS HERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR COMING IN AND ACCEPTING THAT. I'M SORRY I'M NOT THERE IN PERSON. WONDERFUL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE ANOTHER PROCLAMATION. THE CHILDREN'S MEMORIAL DAY, LET'S SEE, IS THE FOURTH FRIDAY. IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED THE MOVES PROCLAMATION. AND I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE VICE MAYOR MAURER?
YES, THANK YOU. WHEREAS NATIONAL CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH IS AN

OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THE IMPORTANCE OF INDIVIDUALS AND COMMUNITIES WORKING TOGETHER TO KEEP FAMILIES SAFE AND HEALTHY. AND WHEREAS EVERYONE

HAS A ROLE TO PLAY IN MAKING SURE OUR COMMUNITY IS A GREAT PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES TO THRIVE. AND WHEREAS ALL CHILDREN DESERVE GREAT CHILDHOODS AND SHOULD BE RAISED IN HEALTHIER HOMES TO NEGLECT. CHILDREN

WHO ARE RAISED IN SUPPORTIVE, STABLE, NURTURING ENVIRONMENTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO LEAD HEALTHIER AND SUCCESSFUL LIVES. AND WHEREAS PRIORITIZING THE

WELL BEING OF CALIFORNIA'S CHILDREN BY IMPLEMENTING POLICIES THAT STRENGTHEN FAMILIES. WHEN WE ENSURE THE HEALTHY DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEXT

GENERATION, THEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TO OUR COMMUNITIES AND BE PRODUCTIVE RESPONSIBLE MEMBERS OF THE SOCIETY. WHEREAS WE CAN'T PUT A DOLLAR VALUE ON THE LIFE OF A CHILD. BUT WE CAN PLAY A PART IN ENDING THE TRAGEDY OF CHILD ABUSE BY SUPPORTING CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. AND

WHEREAS THE CHILDREN'S MEMORIAL DAY WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE CALIFORNIA ASSEMBLY IN APRIL, 1997, WHICH FORMALLY DECLARED THE FOURTH FRIDAY IN APRIL AS A STATEWIDE ANNUAL OBSERVANCE DAY. ON THE FOURTH FRIDAY IN APRIL, EVERY

YEAR, THE CHILDREN'S MEMORIAL FLAG IS TO BE FLOWN STATEWIDE IN MEMORY OF ALL YOUNG LIVES LOST TO VIOLENCE IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. NOW THEREFORE BE IT

PROCLAIMED THAT JILL MCLEWIS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL, ON BEHALF OF

THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE FOURTH FRIDAY IN APRIL AS

CHILDREN'S MEMORIAL FLAG DAY THROUGHOUT SEBASTOPOL IN MEMORY OF CHILDREN, WHO HAVE DIED BY VIOLENCE. AND SHE ENCOURAGES THE CITY TO RAISE THE

MEMORIAL FLAG ON THE FOURTH FRIDAY IN THE MONTH OF APRIL TO HONOR THE YOUNG LIVES LOST.

GREAT, WAS THERE ANYONE PRESENT TO ACCEPT THAT? IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.

OKAY. THEN WE HAVE ONE MORE PROCLAMATION TO GO TO. PARDON ME, THAT'S THE NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK PROCLAMATION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

OKAY, PROCLAIMING APRIL 19 THROUGH THE 25 IS NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK. WHEREAS

LIBRARY SPARKS CREATIVITY, FUEL IMAGINATION, AND INSPIRE LIFELONG LEARNING,

OFFERING A SPACE FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH ALL AGES COULD FIND JOY THROUGH EXPLORATION AND DISCOVERY. AND WHEREAS LIBRARIES SERVE AS A VIBRANT Agenda Item Number 3
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COMMUNITY HUB, CONNECTING PEOPLE WITH KNOWLEDGE, TECHNOLOGY, RESOURCES,

WHILE FOSTERING CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, CRITICAL THINKING, AND CULTURAL ENRICHMENT. WHEREAS LIBRARIES PROVIDE FREE AND EQUITABLE ACCESS TO BOOKS,

DIGITAL TOOLS, AND INNOVATIVE PROGRAMMING, WHEREAS LIBRARIES PARTNER WITH SCHOOLS, BUSINESSES, ORGANIZATIONS, AND MAXIMIZE RESOURCES. WHEREAS

LIBRARIES -- WHEREAS DEDICATED LIBRARIANS AND LIBRARY WORKERS PROVIDE

WELCOMING SPACES THAT INSPIRE DISCOVERY, COLLABORATION, AND CREATIVITY FOR ALL. NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH MAYOR

JILL MCLEWIS AND THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL TO HEREBY COMPLAIN, I MEAN DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 19 THROUGH THE 25 AS NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK. DURING THIS WEEK, I ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO VISIT THEIR LIBRARIES. EXPLORE ITS RESOURCES AND CELEBRATE ALL WAYS THAT THE LIBRARY HELPS OUR COMMUNITIES FIND JOY.

ALL RIGHT. WONDERFUL. WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE HERE ACCEPTING THAT, THEN WE'LL

PASS THOSE OVER, ALL OF THEM OVER TO OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, AND I CAN MOVE ON. OKAY. WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, I JUST WONDER IF ANYONE HAS ANY

STATEMENTS OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REST OF THE AGENDA? I DON'T SEE ANY.

I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM ON THE BOARD OF WESTCO SOCCER CLUB.

AND PER ADVISEMENT BY LEGAL COUNSEL, IF I CAN JUST CHECK IN. BECAUSE I AM NOT PAID, IT IS A PUBLIC SERVICE. I'VE BEEN ADVISED IT'S JUST AN OPTIONAL THING TO PRECLUDE MYSELF FROM THE VOTE. BUT I'M GOING TO STAY ON.

OKAY.

WILL DO YOU WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT?

YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT BECAUSE IT IS AN UNCOMPENSATED POSITION AND THE ORGANIZATION IS A 501C3, YOU DON'T HAVE -- THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO RECUSE

YOURSELF IN THE RULES, ANY APPLICABLE RULES EXCEPT TO DISCLOSE THE POSITION, WHICH YOU'VE DONE.

OKAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.

ALL RIGHT. MARY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS YOU JUST STATED, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S A 20-MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR THIS FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 20 MINUTES AT THE END. IT IS A TWO-MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. GUY TO CHAMBERS FIRST, THEN GO OUT TO ZOOM. SO IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AN ITEM NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? SEEING NONE, I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
YES. HELLO.

THANK YOU. LET ME SEE -- CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GREAT. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE RECENT SURVEY ON CITY PRIORITIES. I JUST WANTED TO

POINT OUT THAT IT DID NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO RANK THEIR PRIORITIES, WHICH I THINK

IS A MISTAKE NOT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO RANK AS IT DOESN'T GIVE THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF A CLEAR LIST OF PRIORITIES. I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF PUBLIC SAFETY WAS STILL THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN OF RESIDENTS. MY HUNCH SAYS IT PROBABLY IS. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION AND ANY FUTURE GOAL SETTING SITUATIONS. AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THERE IS A NEW SURVEY ON THE CITY'S SITES REGARDING TREES. I HOPE PEOPLE FILL OUT THIS SURVEY

AND GIVE SUPPORT TO SEBASTOPOL'S TREE CANOPY, SHRUBS, AND FOLIAGE, IT IS

PROVING CITIES WITH MORE TREES AND PLANTS HAVE LESS SURFACE HEAT AND STAY COOLER IN THE SUMMER, WHICH IS IMPORTANT WITH CLIMATE CHANGE. THEY ALSO

PROVIDE HABITAT FOR BEES, BIRDS, BUTTERFLIES, AND OTHER PARTS OF OUR ECOSYSTEM. SEBASTOPOL SITS ON A HUGE AQUIFER. DESPITE POPULAR BELIEF HAS

NEVER COME CLOSE, EVEN IN DROUGHT YEARS TO ANY SORT OF WATER AVAILABILITY CONCERNS. SO I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SUPPORT OUR TREES AND PLANTS, AND LET THE Agenda Item Number 3
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CITY KNOW HOW YOU FEEL. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REITERATE MY PREVIOUS REQUEST

THAT CONTRACTORS BE IDENTIFIED AS SUCH AND NOT AS CITY EMPLOYEES IN DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KATE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NOW WE'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT. LAURA?
I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT PROCLAMATIONS. I THOUGHT THE POLICY HAD

BEEN CHANGED THAT YOU ONLY READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH IF NO ONE WAS HERE TO PICK IT UP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I WOULD COME OUT TO ZOOM. IF THERE

IS ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY? SEEING NONE, I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED, MAYOR.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE MOVING ONTO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. I WILL READ ALL OF THE ITEMS. AND AFTER THAT, IF NO ONE WANTS TO PULL ANYTHING.

NUMBER ONE, APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FOR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 17, 2026. NUMBER TWO, APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FOR MEETING OF MARCH 17, 2026. NUMBER THREE, ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING JOHN MOE, P.E., TO SIGN CERTAIN DOCUMENTS AS CITY ENGINEER. MARIO

LANDEROS, INTERIM CITY ENGINEER WITH GHD INCORPORATED WILL BE RETIRING FROM HIS ROLE AND JOHN MOE HAS BEEN SELECTED TO PERFORM THIS ROLE. NUMBER FOUR, APPROVAL OF CATASTROPHIC POLICY, CITY WIDE. THIS POLICY ESTABLISHES A

VOLUNTARY CATASTROPHIC LEAVE BANK CONSISTENT WITH IRS GUIDANCE FOR MEDICAL EMERGENCY LEAVE, SHARING PLANS. THE BANK ALLOWS EMPLOYEES TO

DONATE ACCRUED VACATION, COMPENSATORY TIME OFF, CTO, OR ADMINISTRATIVE

LEAVE FOR USE BY ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES WHO EXPERIENCE A MEDICAL EMERGENCY

RESULTING IN PROLONGING ABSENCE AND SUBSTANTIAL INCOME LOSS AFTER EXHAUSTING PAID LEAVE. A MEDICAL EMERGENCY MAY INVOLVE THE EMPLOYEE OR AN ELIGIBLE FAMILY MEMBER. NUMBER FIVE. AUTHORIZE THE OPENING OF A RECRUITMENT

PROCESS TO FILL THE UPCOMING TERM FOR THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL'S REPRESENTATIVE

ON THE SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARY COMMISSION, AND APPROVE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR CITY APPOINTED POSITIONS TO THE SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARY COMMISSION. NUMBER

SIX, APPROVAL OF NOTICE OF COMPLETION FOR EMERGENCY SEWER REPAIR SOUTH HIGH STREET. LET'S SEE. DOES ANYONE -- WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS ON THIS LIST THAT I JUST READ? I DON'T SEE -- NO? OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANYONE, SO IF NO ONE HAS ANY COMMENTS, THEN MARY, THAT TAKES US TO PUBLIC COMMENT, AM I CORRECT? YOU ARE CORRECT. SO THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONLY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, I'LL GO TO CHAMBERS FIRST.

SEEING NONE, I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE? I CAN.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

GREAT, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

REGARDING THE ENGINEERING CONTRACT, IT'S INTERESTING TO READ IN THIS AGENDA

ITEM THAT WE HAD AN RFP FOR AN ACTUAL ENGINEERING POSITION THAT TOOK PLACE IN DECEMBER, BUT FAILED. SO THAT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE TO HEAR ABOUT IT NOW, THREE MONTHS LATER, THAT THAT RFP FAILED. IT'S ONLY BECAUSE OF A RETIREMENT

THAT WE'RE FILLING AN EMERGENCY POSITION WITH AN EMERGENCY RFP FOR THAT POSITION THERE. THIS IS A CONTINUING TREND. WE FOUND OUT AT THE LAST MEETING

THAT WE HAD TO EXTEND THE INTERIM CONTRACT FOR MARY TO BE THE CITY MANAGER

BECAUSE OF A FAILED OR I WOULDN'T SAY FAILED, BUT PROBLEMS WITH THE -- SEARCH FOR THAT POSITION. AT SOME POINT, IT'D BE MY HOPE MAYBE COUNCIL START TO LOOK AT OUR HR SERVICES CONTRACT. OUR ABILITY TO SECURE QUALITY EMPLOYEES. OUR ABILITY TO SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE RFPs AND GET COMPETITIVE BIDS ON PROCESSES. I

MEAN, ALSO JUST REALLY THE TIMELY NATURE OF COMPLETING THESE THINGS AND GETTING THESE THINGS BACK ONTO THE AGENDA. THE IDEA THIS THING JUST SAT FOR

THREE MONTHS WITH AN UNFILLED POSITION FROM A FAILED RFP WITH NO Agenda Item Number 3
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COMMUNICATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE FAILED ENGINEERING POSITION. WE HAVE BEEN WITHOUT AN ENGINEERING MANAGER FOR YEARS NOW. AND I THINK IT IS

REALLY A DISSERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, AND IT'S NOT

SURPRISING THAT WE HAVE SOME OF THE MOST, YOU KNOW, DISASTROUS ROGUE

CONDITIONS IN THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY TAKING SERIOUSLY THE NEED FOR HAVING QUALITY ENGINEERING WITHIN OUR CITY. THANKS.

THANK YOU, KYLE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL COME INTO CHAMBERS. IF

ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. KATE, CAN YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF?
THERE YOU ARE. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER STILL?
YEAH.

GREAT, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I'M LIKE, ME, NOT UNMUTING MYSELF, BUT I'M MUTED NONETHELESS. OKAY. I JUST MAYBE FOLLOWING ON KYLE'S WORDS. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THIS ENGINEER IS A CONTRACT POSITION, AND THE PREVIOUS ENGINEER WAS ALSO A CONTRACT POSITION.

THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KATE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. AGAIN, I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT. LET'S SEE. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR A MOTION?
I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, MARY, ROLL CALL?
THANK YOU. SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN, AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR MAURER TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX.

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?
YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
AYE.

COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
YES.

VICE MAYOR MAURER?
YES.

MAYOR MCLEWIS?
YES.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND COULD I JUST RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENT REALLY QUICK? THE PREVIOUS ENGINEER WAS A CONSULTANT, AND THIS RFP, JOHN MOE, IS AN ENGINEERING CONSULTANT FOR THE CITY AS WELL.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO INFORMATIONAL ITEMS AND PRESENTATIONS. WE WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT THESE TO TEN MINUTES TOTAL ONLY. SO NUMBER SEVEN IS INFORMATIONAL ITEM, SECOND QUARTERLY UPDATE FROM BUILDING THE COMMONS COMMITTEE. AND I GUESS IS PUBLIC WORKS DOING THIS PRESENTATION OR WHO IS IT?
YES, MAYOR. I'LL GIVE IT A BRIEF PRESENTATION, THEN WE'LL PASS IT ONTO THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS. SO THIS IS THE SECOND QUARTERLY REPORT FOR THE BUILDING, THE COMMONS SUBCOMMITTEE. AND THIS CORRIDOR, THEY CREATED TWO AD HOC COMMITTEES OF THE BUILDING OF THE COMMONS COMMITTEE. ONE WAS A FINANCE

COMMITTEE THAT LOOKED AT SIX POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR THE PROJECT AND KIND

OF DID A STRATEGIC ANALYSIS OF THOSE LOCATIONS, PRIORITIZING THEM FOR KIND OF SHORT-TERM NEEDS AND LONGER-TERM NEEDS FOR THE VISION OF THE COMMONS. AND

THE SECOND COMMITTEE WAS PUBLIC OUTREACH COMMITTEE, I'M SAYING THE NAME

WRONG, BUT THEY ARE LOOKING AT -- REACHING OUT TO OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS AND POTENTIAL, GOOD LORD. IMPORTANT FOLKS -- OKAY, WE'LL STOP NOW. THEY'RE

DEVELOPING SOME OUTREACH MATERIALS IT IN QUESTION, SO THEY CAN REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND DEFINE THE PRIORITIES FOR THE COMMONS IN NEEDS. AND I'M Agenda Item Number 3
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JUST GOING TO STOP AND PASS IT TO YOU GUYS. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNCIL, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS.

SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TURNING IT OUT TO SOMEONE ELSE TO PRESENT MORE.

OKAY. SO QUESTIONS? AND IS IT POSSIBLE? I CAN'T SEE ALL THE COUNCIL WITH THE CAMERA WHERE IT'S AT. THANK YOU.

YOU WANT US TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
YES.

OKAY. I AM PERSONALLY ON THE FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE WITH A FEW OTHER MEMBERS. AND WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS TO IDENTIFY ALL THE CITY PROPERTIES THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE. WE LOOKED THROUGH A STACK OF

DIFFERENT KINDS OF FINANCING FOR A PARTICULAR WAYS TO GO THROUGH A PURCHASE OR BILL PROCESS. WE'VE ANALYZED THESE IN A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT I THINK ARE LISTED IN THE DOCUMENT. IT WOULD BE WAY TOO MUCH FOR ME TO GO THROUGH NOW BECAUSE IT WAS AN HOUR'S LONG PRESENTATION ITSELF. BUT THE SUMMARY IS WE'VE

IDENTIFIED THINGS, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE'VE IDENTIFIED HOW WE COULD DEFINE IT IF WE DID MOVE FORWARD, AND WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE.

YES. AND I'LL SAY STAFF DID NOT GET THE NAME OF IT CORRECT. I'M NOT ENTIRELY

SURE WHAT WAS CAUSED FOR THE HUMOR BECAUSE A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS. CHAIR NEEDS AN ASSESSMENT, WHICH MEANS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE

STAKEHOLDERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ABOUT HAVING A SHARED COMMUNITY SPACE. SO THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE, THEY SUBMITTED 30 NAMES. MYSELF AND THREE OTHERS ARE CHARGED WITH DOING IT AT LEAST HALF HOUR TO 40-MINUTE INTERVIEW WITH THE PEOPLE TO FIND OUT EXACTLY

WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND THEIR LEVEL OF INTEREST IN TRYING TO HAVE THIS PLAZA PUT INTO PLACE. I HAVE TO SAY AS THE CHAIR OF THE OVERALL COMMITTEE, I'M

IMPRESSED EACH TIME WITH THE LEVEL OF TIME AND DEDICATION THAT OUR FELLOW CITIZENS, VOLUNTEERS PUT INTO THIS PROJECT. AND THE PUBLIC IS DEFINITELY

WELCOMING YOU ON ZOOM, PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THE NEXT MEETING IS COMING UP NEXT TUESDAY. THANKS.

AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP. IN OUR HOUR, WE'VE GOTTEN PRETTY GOOD FEEDBACK. THERE

HAVE BEEN QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT WE ARE ENGAGING WITH THAT ARE POTENTIAL PARTNERS IN THIS. QUITE A FEW PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN IT. IT'S GREAT TO GET OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE'S NEEDS ARE.

SHE'S MUTED.

SORRY. I APOLOGIZE. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I SAID QUESTIONS, VICE MAYOR MAURER?
THANK YOU. SO MY QUESTION IS DO YOU HAVE A MODEL WHERE THIS KIND OF SHARED COMMUNITY BUILDING WORKS AND IS IN PRACTICE AND IS HAPPENING? YEAH. THERE ARE DIFFERENT CAMPUS MODELS THROUGH DIFFERENT TOWNS. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN REFER TO OFF THE CUSP. BUT I DO KNOW THERE ARE DIFFERENT VERSIONS IN CALIFORNIA ALSO THAT SHARE THIS MODEL L. THERE'S EXPANDED LIBRARY CONCEPTS THAT DO NOT GO AS FAR AS WE MIGHT GO. OFTEN THEY MIGHT HAVE A

BOOKSTORE, COFFEE SHOP, RESTAURANTS, OR SOME OTHER CHILDCARE FACILITY ATTACHED, LIKE ONE IN WALNUT CREEK OR SOMETHING. BUT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO

GO A LITTLE FURTHER THAN SOME OTHERS, BUT THERE ARE COMMUNITY RESOURCES IN BOULDER THAT ARE ALSO ACTIVITY CENTERS.

I CAN CHIME IN THAT OUR SISTER CITY IT IN JAPAN BECAUSE OUR MAYOR WHEN SHE

WENT FOR HER VISIT, APPARENTLY THAT'S WHAT THEIR MAYOR TOOK THEM TO, WHICH

IS A SITUATION AND A CITY THAT IS THE SAME SIZE AS OURS THAT NO MONEY AT ALL, AND THEY PARTNERED WITH A FOR-PROFIT BOOKSTORE. IT'S NOT COINCIDENTAL THAT OUR VICE CHAIR OF THE FULL COMMITTEE IS THE CEO OF COPPERFIELDS. SO THERE ARE

MODELS OUT THERE, AND I WOULD EARN COURAGE PEOPLE TO GO EXPLORE THEM AND JOIN IN THE CONVERSATION. THANKS.

WILL AND JUST TO ADD TO THE INFORMATION FOR THE LIBRARY. THEY ALSO PARTNER WITH A COMMERCIAL COFFEE SHOP. SO THERE'S THE COFFEE SHOP IN THERE, THE BOOKSTORE, THERE'S THE LIBRARY. ANYONE WHO HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THERE, YOU WOULD BE DELIGHTED TO SEE IT. THEY ALSO HAVE A GIFT SHOP. SO ANY WAY I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I CAN'T TELL -- COUNCILMEMBER HINTON, GO AHEAD.

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YEAH. I HAD A QUESTION. SO IT DOESN'T APPEAR -- IT HAS STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, AND APPEARS THEY'RE ALL $12 TO $13 TO $20 MILLION FOR MOST OF THEM, ALL, BUT ONE.

DID YOU GUYS RANK THEM? IS THAT A FUTURE THING?
YES. INITIALLY WE WERE GOING TO GO THROUGH TO SEE WHAT THEY GENERALLY LOOK LIKE. AND THEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH AND FIGURE OUT WITH OUR COMMUNITY'S FEEDBACK WILL FEEL THE BEST BEFORE WE ASSIGN WEIGHTS AND RANK.

ALSO, I'LL CHIME IN. GOING THROUGH THE LIST OF 30 STAKEHOLDERS THAT THE COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER. A PART OF THE QUESTIONS, WHICH IS A PART OF THE PACKET. I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE. THERE'S A WHOLE SECTION ON OUR WEBSITE THAT GOES THROUGH. TO FIND OUT WHO THOSE 30 PEOPLE ARE, AND TO ADD PEOPLE TO THAT LIST. WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT BY GOING THROUGH THOSE QUESTIONS THAT THE

CITY CAME UP WITH WOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCILMEMBER HINTON JUST RAISED. AS FAR AS HOW VIABLE THE MONEY IS AND HOW QUICKLY COULD ANY OF IT BE SECURED.

SO I JUST -- I READ A LOT OF THIS, SO MAYBE I MISSED IT SOMEWHERE. I WAS JUST

WONDERING HOW MUCH HAVE YOU DISCUSSED -- A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE NON-PROFITS, 501C33. HOW MUCH OF IT HAVE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE LARGEST -- HOW THAT WOULD WORK COMBING ON THE FUNDS? LIKE THESE ARE ALL SEPARATE ORGANIZATIONS. I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS, WHEN YOU GET DONE. I JUST DID A MERGER OF TWO NON-PROFITS, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE'VE ADDRESSED. SO I WONDER, HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED EXTENSIVELY TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS? EXTENSIVELY TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S USEFUL. THERE'S THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE

ACTUALLY CONTRACTING AND ENTERING INTO AGREEMENTS, OR LIKE FIGURING OUT WHAT FITS THE BEST. BUT WE HAVE DISCUSSED WHAT DOES THE MODEL LOOK LIKE. AND THERE IS LIKE A BUY IN THE MODEL SITUATION. IN SOME CASES THERE, WOULD BE -- IF

THERE WERE A WHOLE PROPERTY PURCHASED, THEN IT WOULD BE LIKE A RENTER TYPE

SITUATION, WHERE THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT PAY RENT FOR THEIR PORTION OF THE PARTS. THERE IS NO COMINGLING OF FUNDS. THERE'S ONE MASTER PERSON OF THE PROPERTY. EACH OF THESE ARE INDIVIDUAL SUBLETS. SORT OF LIKE THE CONTRACT THAT STARBUCKS AND THE AIRPORT MIGHT HAVE.

GOT IT. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, VICE MAYOR?

I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THIS COMMITTEE, THE NEXT TIME YOU REPORT OUT, YOU BRING

EXAMPLES OF MODELS FROM OTHER CITIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY -- THAT HAVE

ALREADY CREATED A BUILDING OR SHARED BUILDING THAT INCLUDE LIKE SUCH BIG GROUPS LIKE THE SENIOR CENTER, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE LIBRARY. I JUST LIKE TO SEE A MODEL FOR THAT. BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO DO A LOT IN ONE

SPACE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE DOING OUTREACH TO INVITE OTHER GROUPS TO JOIN IN THIS EFFORT TOO. SO THAT WOULD HELP ME. THANKS.

I WOULD CHIME IN THAT I WOULD SECOND THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT ASPECT.

YEAH, I FIRMLY AGREE WITH CASE STUDIES AND LEARNING FROM OTHER PLACES FIRST.

YES.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE? I DON'T WANT TO MISS ANYONE. I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS. OKAY. SO IF NOT, THEN WE CAN GO OUT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SECOND QUARTERLY REPORT FROM BUILDING THE COMMONS COMMITTEE. AGAIN, IT'S TWO MINUTES. I COME TO CHAMBERS FIRST. SEEING NONE, I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
I CAN.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU STILL SEE THE TIMER?
IT'S OKAY, BUT I WON'T BE TWO MINUTES.

OKAY, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

SO I REALLY LIKE THE AMOUNT OF THOUGHT AND PROCESS HAS GONE ON SO FAR. AND IN THIS DIRECTION. BUT WHAT I THINK MY CONCERN IS THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING. THERE SEASON A AUDIENCE HERE THAT'S THE PUBLIC. IT REALLY ISN'T CLEAR FROM THE

MATERIALS OR WHAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT IS THE Agenda Item Number 3
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PROBLEM THAT THE COMMONS ARE TRYING TO SOLVE. AT SOME POINT THERE NEEDS TO BE A PUBLIC BUY IN. MAYBE EACH OF YOU HAVE SOME SENSE OF OBLIGATION OF BEING

CONNECTED TO THE PUBLIC AND BEING ABLE TO CONVINCE THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS SOMETHING IS THEY WANT TO BUY INTO FINANCIALLY OR AS A COMMUNITY. BUT I

THINK A PART OF THAT IS BEING ABLE TO ARTICULATE IT IN A WAY THAT FOLKS COULD

UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT I SAID BEFORE, WHICH IS WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THE COMMONS ARE TRYING TO SOLVE? SO HOPEFULLY IN A FUTURE PRESENTATION, THOSE BASICS CAN BE A PART OF THE PRESENTATION. THANKS.

THANK YOU, KYLE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL COME INTO CHAMBERS.

SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. MARY, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE? YES. THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. IS THIS COSTING US ANYTHING, THE TAXPAYERS, THE CITY, THIS COMMITTEE? I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THAT. THANKS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, MARY. NEXT, I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS INFORMATIONAL ITEM. SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT ONTO ZOOM. IF THERE IS

ANYONE ON ZOOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY, THANK YOU. BACK TO THE DAIS. IF ANYONE HAS ANY COMMENTS? COUNCILMEMBER CARTER? EVERYONE ELSE, YOU WERE UP FIRST, THOUGH.

JUST TO ADDRESS THE WHY. WE HAVE SEVERAL BUILDINGS THAT -- WE'RE OUTGROWING THE SENIOR CENTER. IT'S A DESPERATE NEED IMMEDIATELY. THE LIBRARY IS AT 100% CAPACITY. IT SHOULD, IN 2016, IT WAS SUPPOSE TO DOUBLE IN SIZE. SO THEY'VE GOT A REQUEST. WE'RE TIGHT IN CITY HALL SPACE. AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER ALSO NEEDS SOME LOVE. BUT ALSO WE HAVE OTHER NON-PROFITS THAT NEED A PLACE TO PRESENT.

TO MEET AND SOME OTHER SERVICES THAT WILL GET USED SPACE. IN ORDER TO PROVIDE

THOSE, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PROPERTIES CAN BE MAXIMIZED OR WHERE ARE THERE EFFICIENCIES? SHOULD WE PUT MORE MONEY INTO CERTAIN BUILDINGS? OR

SHOULD WE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE EXPAND CAPACITY FOR THE THINGS WE NEED, ESPECIALLY THE SENIOR CENTER IN THE LIBRARY, WHICH ARE POSTING BURSTING.

WE HEARD THE SENIOR CENTER IS WELL REPRESENTED BY A MEMBER ON THE BOARD ON

THE FULL STANDING COMMITTEE ABOUT THEIR NEED AND THEIR QUICK NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING HAPPEN. THEY HAVE TURNED TO THE CITY'S NUMBERS SOMETIMES TO FIGURE OUT THE PLAN. THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THEY WERE ON THE COMMITTEE, AND I

UNDERSTAND THEY'RE TRYING TO COME BACK BECAUSE AS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SAID, THEY HAVE A LOT OF THEIR OWN NEEDS DOUG TO FLOODING, ETC. THERE ARE

TYPICAL AND PAST STUDIES TO SHOW IT IS ALSO NEEDING FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS

THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ADDRESSED IN THE PAST THE NEED FOR INCREASED STAFFING IN ORDER TO MEET THE NUMBER OF PATRONS THAT COME IN. NOT ONLY FROM SEBASTOPOL, BUT FROM THE WEST COUNTY. OTHER NON-PROFITS, HAS NO PHYSICAL SPACE. AND THEY'RE LITERALLY PAYING A CONTRACTOR WHO WORKS OUT OF HER HOME. SO THERE IS A LOT OF REASONS WHY IF YOU ARE LIKE AT LEAST WE'RE NONPROFITS, WE CAN DO BETTER. AND THEN ALSO OUR FOR-PROFIT BUSINESSES ARE STEPPING UP. AGAIN, NOT EVERY CITY HAS A CEO OF A NATIONAL CHAIN, SITTING AS THEIR VICE CHAIR, SO I'LL THROW THAT OUT THERE.

AND VICE MAYOR MAURER, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP?
THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE SENIOR CENTER AT YOUR NEXT REPORT. BECAUSE THE LAST I HEARD, THEY OPENED UP ON SATURDAY, AND MAYBE OUR LIAISON CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND THIS MORE. THEY'RE LISTED AS A CRITICAL NEED.

AND SO I QUESTION THAT ONE, AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM ON THAT. AND I HAVE GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, A COUPLE YEARS AGO. WE WERE TOLD THAT IF THAT BUILDING FLOODED AGAIN, IT WOULD NOT BE INSURABLE. AND THIS IS SERIOUS. THIS BUILDING FLOODS, EVERY TEN YEARS OR SO IT FLOODS. IT HASN'T FLOODED FOR A FEW YEARS. THE LAST TIME IT FLOODED, THE CITY RECEIVED PROBABLY CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS IN INSURANCE. AND WE WERE TOLD IT WAS NO LONGER INSURABLE BECAUSE OF THE RISKS. SO I'M SURPRISED TO SEE THAT IT'S LISTED, IT'S NOT LISTED AS A CRITICAL NEED. SO I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, FLAG THAT FOR THE COMMITTEE AND ASK YOU TO LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE TO ME, THAT SEEMS THE MOST SERIOUS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

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ABSOLUTELY. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF TOSS OUT THAT I FORGOT ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE EFFICIENCY OF SHARING ONE ROOF. THE COST EFFICIENCIES THAT COULD COME WITH THAT, YOU KNOW? SOME OF THESE HAVE THREE LAYERS OF DOING

JUST ABOUT THE SAME KIND OF BOOKING ACTIVITY, AND SOMETIMES THERE IS LIKE AN EFFICIENCY AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE I --
I HAVE ONE MORE.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU LOOKED AT THE AREA IN BETWEEN THE CITY HALL AND THE LIBRARY IN TERMS OF EXPANSION? AND WHAT WAS YOUR FINDING OR CONCLUSION?

THE LAB, THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD PUT TOGETHER A NON-PROFIT THAT I SAT ON

FOR MANY YEARS, LANTERN, AND THEY HIRED AN ARCHITECT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT

WHAT ACTUALLY COULD BE DONE TO INCREASE AT LEAST THE LIBRARY BY BUILDING UP ON THE SECOND STORY.BUT AS FAR AS EXPANDING OUT, THAT'S A DISCUSSION I HAVE

BEEN AWARE OF EITHER THROUGH CITY HALL OR INTO THE PARKING LOT THROUGH THE SENIOR CENTER. IT'S BEEN DISGUSTING, I THINK, IS STILL REMAINING TO BE DISCUSSED ABOUT HOW.

YEAH, THESE ARE ALL ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS. WE'RE CERTAINLY THINKING ABOUT IT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE BUSINESSES THERE, THE PARKING. WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT'S OUR IMPACT DOWNTOWN? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF THEY ARE REBUILDING THERE? HOW DOES THAT IMPACT DOWNTOWN? ALL OF THESE ARE CONSIDERATIONS, WE COULD ONLY MEET SO MUCH, RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO

DO AS MUCH QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, AND ANYTHING YOU HAVE AS FAR AS SUGGESTIONS WILL CERTAINLY NOTE TO HELP MAKE OUR BETTER.

SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I HAVE IS ONE, I SEE ALL THE FINANCIAL FIGURES. ONE

THING I KNOW, MANY OF THE NON-PROFITS UTILIZING THE SPACE WE HAVE IN THE CITY THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY PAYING ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT. MAYBE A DOLLAR TO USE THESE SPACES. THERE'S QUITE A COST RELATED TO THEM. I HAVE GREAT CONCERN

ABOUT WHOO IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE FINANCIAL CHALLENGES. SECONDLY, I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AGAIN TO BE REMINDED OF

IF THERE ARE ANY FINANCIAL EXPERTS ON THIS COMMITTEE TO ACTUALLY HELP AS

YOU'RE ASSESSING OUT THESE DIFFERENT MODELS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE FINANCE PERSPECTIVE. WHAT DOES ALL OF THAT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE WE CAN PRIORITIZE IN MY OPINION, MANY THINGS. BUT IF WE CAN'T AFFORD THEM, THEN WE ARE JUST SPINNING OUR WHEELS. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO EVEN MENTION THIS BECAUSE THERE IS ALWAYS A LONG SHOT. BUT WHO IS EXPLORING GRANTS? AND SECONDLY IF YOU'RE EXPLORING GRANTS, IT BECOMES AS A NON-PROFIT

LEADER MYSELF, I KNOW IT BECOMES VERY COMPLICATED, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE NON-PROFITS TRYING TO COME TOGETHER TO APPLY FOR GRANTS. SO THERE IS A LOGISTICS CHALLENGE THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE EXPECTING THE CITY TO APPLY FOR THAT TYPE OF STUFF ON THE SIDE? BUT THOSE ARE JUST SOME INITIAL CONCERNS THAT I HAVE, THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THIS. SO AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE TO HAVE PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD BRING FORWARD.

IT'S FINE. I DON'T KNOW. I'M ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.

I WASN'T FINISHED.

THANKS.

I APOLOGIZE. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT WE ARE LOOKING INTO EXACTLY THAT

AND TRYING TO ELIMINATE THE CITY'S LIABILITY FOR COSTS OR PUTTING IT INTO A BAD POSITION. BEING ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, I KNOW VERY WELL WE HAVE LIMITED TO NO MONEY. SO IN ANYTHING WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, WE'RE GOING TO FIND -- YOU

KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY CREATIVE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK DEEPLY INTO

FINDING WAYS TO FINANCE A NEW FACILITY THAT IS REALLY LOW IMPACT TO THE CITY, IF AT ALL. AND WE'LL HAVE A HIGH PAYOFF. IF THERE ARE NON-PROFITS, THAT'S

PROBABLY A REASON WE'RE LOOKING FOR A BUSINESS OR A PUBLIC-PRIVATE

RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE THE PRIVATE PARTY COULD ACTUALLY END UP SUBSIDIZING SOME OF THE PRIVATE PARTS. SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE AVAILABLE

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WORK OUT. BUT THESE CONCERNS I SHARE WITH YOU DEEPLY, AND I WANT YOU TO

KNOW WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE OUR LAND IN A GREAT WAY, BUT ALSO OUR MINDS, AS FAR AS LIKE FINANCING AND FUNDING THESE THINGS. WITH MINIMAL IMPACT TO STAFF AND CITY BUDGET. >
JUST SO I COULD FINISH MY THOUGHT. WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS I HOPE THAT MAYBE YOU'RE LOOKING TO THE COUNTY FOR FUNDING AS WELL. AND I KNOW WE HAVE A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. BUT TRULY FUNDING THAT'S NOT TIED TO

ANYTHING ELSE, OTHER THAN THE COUNTY ALSO TRYING TO RECOGNIZE THAT MANY OF

THESE NON-PROFITS ARE UTILIZED, SOMETIMES PREDOMINANTLY BY FOLKS THAT LIVE IN WEST COUNTY, NOT NECESSARILY IN THE CITY. SO THAT'S MY FINAL COMMENT ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW --
WILL AND I CAN SAY THAT SUPERVISOR HOPKINS WAS ON THE LIST OF THE 30, AND I WAS CHARGED WITH SENDING OUT THE INVITATIONS TO HAVE THE 30 TO 40-MINUTE INTERVIEW AND HER CHIEF OF STAFF DID RESPOND BACK, ACKNOWLEDGING IT. AND

WE'LL BRING IT UP AGAIN ABOUT WHO IS TO APPROACH HER WITH THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING NEXT TUESDAY.

THANK YOU. AND MARY, PLEASE FORGIVE ME. I USUALLY WRITE DOWN, WE'RE IN THE COMMENT SECTION, RIGHT?

YOU'RE ON THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION, BUT THERE IS NO ACTION, SO IT IS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM ONLY. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CLOSE IT OUT IT IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS FROM CITY COUNCIL? THANK YOU, SORRY, I WAS LISTENING SO MUCH INTENTLY. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS? NO, OKAY. THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THAT OUT. IS IT OKAY TO MOVE ON NOW, MARY?
YES, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE SECOND INFORMATIONAL ITEM.

OKAY, NUMBER EIGHT. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ANNUAL REPORT, PIAZZA HOTEL,

ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW AND THE DA ITSELF. CITY STAFF WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION ON TIMELINE OF DEVELOPMENT

AGREEMENT, AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN UPON EXPIRATION OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THAT IS ALSO PRESENTED BY PLANNING, I BELIEVE? YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. JANE RILEY ON THE INTERIM PLANNING DIRECTOR. THAT'S A CONTRACT POSITION. AS THE MAYOR INDICATED, THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM.

THERE IS AN ANNUAL ITEM THAT'S REQUIRED BOTH BY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT

FOR THE HOTEL SEBASTOPOL, AS WELL AS STATE LAW FOR AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM TO BE BROUGHT TO YOU AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR. NO COUNCIL ACTION IS REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. HOTEL SEBASTOPOL IS A 66-ROOM APPROVED BOUTIQUE HOTEL WITH MANY AMENITIES TO BE LOCATED AT 6828 DEPOT STREET WITH PARKING ACROSS BROWN STREET AT 6826 DEPOT STREET. APPROVALS WERE GRANTED IN 2017. THE OWNERS HAVE PROCEEDED WITH SOME ENTITLEMENT SINCE THAT TIME. AND IN JULY OF 2024, YOUR

CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WILL EXPIRE IN THE END OF JUNE, 2027, IF NO ACTION IS EVER TAKEN BY THE APPLICANT. THIS ANNUAL REVIEW IS TO

ENSURE THE APPLICANT IS ACTING IN GOOD FAITH COMPLIANT WITH THE TERMS OF THE

AGREEMENT TO THE STAFF REPORT ATTACHED TO A LETTER FROM PIAZZA DEVELOPMENT, WHO ARE HERE AND WILL GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE. IF THE CITY

COUNCIL DOES FIND THE APPLICANT IS NOT ACTING IN GOOD FAITH COMPLIANCE UNDER

THE TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING TO HEAR THE MATTER. THIS IS INFORMATIONAL ONLY. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO PIAZZA? [ INAUDIBLE ]
GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MOST OF US HAVE MET IN PERSON, AND I APPRECIATE THE

TIME TO COME OUT TONIGHT AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST NINE MONTHS, SINCE WE WERE LAST IN FRONT OF YOU LAST AUGUST. FROM A

SITE PERFECTIVE AS AN UPDATE, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE,

WE'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH SOME OF THE TEMPORARY ACTIVATIONS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COMPLETE. I'M GETTING FEEDBACK ON MY END. ARE YOU GUYS GETTING THAT AS WELL? OKAY, SORRY. YEAH. [ LAUGHTER ] YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE ART INSTALLATION, WHICH JUST STARTED LAST AUGUST, WHEN WE WERE IN FRONT OF YOU.

WE HAD SEBASTOPOL BLOOM FEST, THE THREE-DAY MUSIC AND ART FESTIVAL. WE ALSO

HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IMPROVE THE PEDESTRIAN REALM ALONG OUR MCKINLEY STREET

FRONTAGE TO SERVE AS SORT OF A BETTER CONNECTION BETWEEN THE BARLOW AND Agenda Item Number 3
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THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. WE PUSHED BACK OUR FENCE. WE COME BACK WITH SOME

GRAVEL AND PUT UP THE LIGHTS TO HELP MAKE THAT PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE A

LITTLE BIT MORE ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE AND COMFORTABLE IN THE INTERIM AS WE MOVE TOWARDS GROUND BREAKING. WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT'S SPRINGTIME. WE HAVE A WEED ABATEMENT SCHEDULED IN TWO WEEKS TIME. I KNOW THE LOT ITSELF IS SORT OF

IN THAT SPRINGTIME EXPLOSION, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT UNDER CONTROL AS WELL. AS IT RELATES TO THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE ALL READ OUR LETTER. I DON'T WANT TO DRAW THIS OUT. I WANT TO MOSTLY LEAVE SPACE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. BUT AS YOU KNOW, RATES AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE NOT COME DOWN IN THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS. YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT

THRIVES ON STABILITY, AND THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS THAT HAVE BEEN STABLE. THAT SAID, AS I MENTIONED IN THE LAST TIME, WE STILL RETAIN

LOAN APPROVAL UNDER WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS THE SEED PASTE PROGRAM, WHICH IS

THE FEDERAL PROGRAM THAT GIVES MONEY TO PROJECTS THAT ADVANCE THE SUSTAINABILITY MEASURES. THAT IS STILL IN OUR POCKET. THAT WOULD COVER HALF OF OUR DEVELOPMENT COSTS. SO WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON IS FINDING A LENDING INSTITUTION TO COVER THAT SECOND HALF. WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY GREAT

DISCUSSIONS WITH SORT OF TRADITIONAL LENDERS, SORT OF SMALLER REGIONAL

BANKS, WHO WE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST, WHO COULD CONCEIVABLY OFFER

SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALLOW THE PROJECT TO PENCIL AS THINGS SORT OF COME DOWN. WE'VE ALSO SORT OF, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SOME ADDITIONAL LESS

TRADITION FALL SOURCES OF FUNDING, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A PROJECT IN

SONOMA THAT SUCCESSFULLY SECURED FUNDS, IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF IS ANOTHER

FEDERAL PROGRAM THAT ENCOURAGES INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENT IN SORT OF

RURAL COMMUNITIES AS A WAY TO SORT OF -- FOR THE FOLKS WHO INVEST IT, IT LEADS

TOWARDS IMMIGRATION STATUS FOR THEM, AND AS A WAY TO SORT OF COME UP TOGETHER WITH THE FUNDING SOURCES TO HOPEFULLY GET TO GROUND BREAKING.

AND ALL OF THAT IS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING IN PLACE. WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD TOMORROW OBVIOUSLY. WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE THE LAST

MEETING AND SINCE WE SORT OF COMMUNICATED THAT TO YOU GUYS THE LAST TIME IS

TO CONTINUE TO REFINE POTENTIAL VALUE IN ENGINEERING THAT WE COULD SORT OF

TREAT AS A MENU OF OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM AS WE SORT OF MOVE TOWARDS A

FINALIZED FUNDING PACKAGE TO SORT OF ALLOW THE PROJECT TO PENCIL DEPENDING

ON WHAT THE RATE AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS WOULD BE, RIGHT, AS THAT GROUND BREAKING WOULD ACTUALLY APPROACH. WE THINK THAT STRATEGY WOULD GIVE US

THE FLEXIBILITY TO SORT OF PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT WE CAN CHANGE ON THE PROJECT TO ALLOW IT TO PENCIL. YOU KNOW, THE MORE TIME WE HAVE ON THAT RUNWAY

THEORETICALLY IF THINGS ARE IMPROVING IN TERMS OF RATES AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS. THE LESS DRAMATIC SOME OF THESE THINGS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WOULD BE

WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THE MORE DRAMATIC MATTERS THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE

IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT BECAUSE SOME OF THEM WOULD REQUIRE ACTION BY

PLANNING COMMISSION, BY COUNCIL, SO THOSE ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD

LIKE TO INCLUDE, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A FLAVOR OF THE THINGS WE'RE THINKING OF, DOING ALL WE CAN WITHIN THE TIME FRAME WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US. I KNOW IT'S

FRUSTRATING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ALONE IN SORT OF CONFRONTING THESE DIFFICULTIES. I'M SURE YOU KNOW THE BARLOW HOTEL IS NAVIGATING THE SAME THING. THEY'RE IN A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PHASE. BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WAYS TO HELP EACH OTHER, AND THOSE TALKS ARE ONGOING. AND YEAH, I THINK THAT'S KIND

OF THE GIST OF THE LETTER OF THE UPDATE, AND I MOSTLY WANT TO BE HERE FOR QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM, WHICH I'LL

SAVE MY COMMENT FOR LATER ON IN THE MEETING, BUT WE CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR

WAYS TO TEMPORARILY, IN THE INTERIM, IMPROVE A LOT, AND ACTIVATE IT, SO IT'S NOT

JUST IN THE DEAD SPACE IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN, BUT IT IS GETTING TO THE COMMUNITY. SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
YES, THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING. I WAS SURPRISED. YOU HAD ANOTHER TWO MONTHS.

BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME, YOU WERE REQUIRED TO BE HERE WAS IN JUNE. BASICALLY THE SAME VIEWS YOU HAVE FOR US, THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE ABOUT FINANCE.

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THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK TODAY IS EXPLAIN TO US WHERE YOU ARE IN RELATION TO WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN HEALDSBURG? BECAUSE THE COMMENT WAS THEY WERE ABLE

TO GET WHATEVER THEY NEEDED TO GET TOGETHER TO DO WHAT THEY PROMISED THE CITIZENS OF HEALDSBURG. BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THE SAME HERE IN SEBASTOPOL. SO PLEASE PROVIDE THAT BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE THAT PERSON IS WATCHING TODAY.

SURE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION BOTH FROM YOU AND FROM THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IN HEALDSBURG. I'LL SAY WE DO

HAVE A FOURTH PROJECT IN HEALDSBURG THAT'S IN THE VERY SIMILAR SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN HERE TODAY. THE ENTITLEMENT ON THE PROJECT WILL EXPIRE NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR. SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT IS CAUGHT IN THIS LIMBO OF, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CLIMATE. THAT SAID IN HEALDSBURG, WE STARTED IN HEALDSBURG IN 2001. WHEN HEALDSBURG WAS VERY MUCH NOT THE TOURIST DESTINATION THAT IT IS TODAY. YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PARALLELS WITH THAT PROJECT, OUR FIRST HOTEL IN HEALDSBURG. AND THIS

PROJECT THAT WE'VE PROPOSED AND HAVE BEEN APPROV ED AND HAVE PULLED A

PERMIT HERE IN SEBASTOPOL, AND THEY ARE EXPENSIVE PROJECTS THEORETICALLY UNPROVEN MARKETS. VERY MUCH SO IN HEALDSBURG IN 2001, BUT

HERE IN SEBASTOPOL, WHILE WE'RE SURROUNDED BY A VERY THRIVING BOTH DOMESTIC INTERNATIONAL TOURISM INDUSTRY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. THERE IS NO PROVEN PROJECT OF THIS TYPE YET, WHICH I'M SURE AS YOU KNOW MAKES LENDERS NERVOUS.

IN HEALDSBURG, YOU KNOW, THAT PROJECT SIMILARLY WAS RIGHT DOWNTOWN OR IN THE SQUARE, INVOLVING A LOT OF PERSONAL RISKS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. BUT I THINK

IF YOU WERE TO ASK THE FOUNDERS OF OUR COMPANY IF THE RISK WAS WORTH IT, I THINK YOU WOULD SAY ABSOLUTELY YES. HOTEL HEALDSBURG HAS LED TO A LOT OF

OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN HEALDSBURG FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE, DEPENDING ON YOUR OPINIONS. SO I THINK -- I THINK THE ONLY OTHER THING TO NOTE IN THIS SPECIFIC

CASE, AND I MENTIONED THIS LAST MEETING, AND I'M SORRY TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD. THERE HAS BEEN A SORT OF EXTRAORDINARY SUCCESSION OF EXTERNAL EVENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE WE WERE APPROVED IN 2017 FROM THE FIRES TO THE PANDEMIC, THE CURRENT SORT OF GLOBAL CRISIS THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT USING THAT AS AN EXCUSE. AS WAS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE ENTITLEMENTS IN 2017. WE ARE HERE ALMOST 10 YEARS AFTER THAT, BUT IT'S AS I SAID BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF RISK, WE NEED TO BE SMART ABOUT WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD. LIKE HOTEL HEALDSBURG, IT IS SORT OF AN UNPROVEN PROJECT.

ONE FOLLOW-UP. THIS IS THE FIRST I HEARD ABOUT YOUR FOURTH PROJECT. YOUR FOURTH PROJECT, WHEN DID THAT COME INTO YOUR THOUGHTS?
THAT WAS APPROVED, OH GEEZ, MY MEMORY IS GOING TO FAIL ME HERE. BUT IT'S BEEN WITHIN THE LAST FOUR YEARS IT'S BEEN APPROVED. WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT STAGE THERE, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. WE'RE RIGHT ABOUT 30% CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. BUT THE PROJECT IS ON PAUSE FOR VERY MANY SIMILAR REASONS. LIKE I MENTIONED, THE ENTITLEMENTS EXPIRE IN NOVEMBER. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO SHARE TOO MUCH ABOUT ANOTHER CITY'S PROJECT AND ISSUES. BUT IF YOU

WERE TO ASK ME WHICH PROJECT I'M MORE BULLISH ON, IT WOULD BE THIS PROJECT HERE IN SEBASTOPOL.

ALL RIGHT, I SAW VICE MAYOR, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP FIRST.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. HAVE YOU DONE ANY CEQA WORK ON THE PROJECT ALREADY?
THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS? YES, ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORK WAS DONE UP UNTIL 2017 WHEN APPROVAL WAS GRANTED.

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED SCALING THE PROJECT DOWN, MAKING SOMETHING MAYBE

SMALLER, MORE DIVERSE THAT REFLECTS MORE OF THE PERSONALITIES OF SEBASTOPOL INSTEAD OF SOMETHING REALLY HIGH END?
YES, ABSOLUTELY. THE SORT OF MENU OF POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THE PROJECT THAT I WAS REFERENCING TO. SOME OF THEM INCLUDE QUITE DRASTIC MEASURES LIKE ELIMINATING ONE OF THE BUILDINGS. AND WE HAD THE TWO-STORY BUILDING WITH THE RETAIL SPA AND THE ROOMS ON THE SECOND STORY. WE WERE THINKING ABOUT Agenda Item Number 3
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ELIMINATING THAT. REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF ROOMS, AND MAKING MORE RETAIL ORIENTED ONE-STORY STRUCTURE THAT IS EXPENSIVE TO BUILD. AGAIN THOUGH -- THE BARLOW WILL HAVE A SPA?
IN THE HOTEL.

WE ALSO HAVE THE BLISS DAY SPA IN TOWN ALREADY. WHEN DO YOU PREDICT YOU CAN BREAK GROUND? AND ONCE YOU GET STARTED, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE UNTIL THE HOTEL IS OPERATIONAL?

I'LL ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION FIRST BECAUSE THAT'S AN ACTUAL KNOWN, OUR CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE ASSUMES 18 MONTHS, BUT NOTHING IS CERTAIN. SO TWO YEARS. JUST TO ACCOUNT FOR WEATHER AND OTHER UNFORESEEN DELAYS.

SO YOU THINK IT WILL BE TWO YEARS BEFORE YOU'RE OPERATIONAL? CORRECT.

RENTING OUT THE ROOMS AND RUNNING HOTELS?
CORRECT, YES.

IN TERMS OF US BREAKING GROUND, I THINK IN THE CURRENT SORT OF MINDSET, WE

ARE TRYING OUR BEST TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT WE WANT TO

MOVE FORWARD, AND WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO STRADDLE THAT EXCITEMENT AND SORT OF THE REALITY. SO GIVEN OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALLOWS US TO GO UP UNTIL THE END OF JUNE 2027, RIGHT? SO THAT IS 14 TO 15 MONTHS. I THINK IDEALLY WE

WOULD SORT OF MOVE INTO THAT DIRECTION TO ALLOW MARKETS TO HOPEFULLY MOVE IN OUR FAVOR. IF ANYTHING WERE TO CHANGE AND THEY WERE TO COME ALONG THAT

COUNCIL APPROVES THAT WILL GIVE US MORE RUNWAY, THAT'S ALL THE BETTER FOR US AND IT WILL HELP US REDUCE THAT RISK. BUT IF I HAD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY SUMMER OF NEXT YEAR.

I'M SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN?
SUMMER OF NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THE DA EXPIRES AT THE END OF JUNE.

SO YOU'RE THINKING YOU COULD BREAK GROUND WHEN -- WHEN YOU NEED TO? WHEN

THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS DUE, YOU'RE THINKING YOU'RE GOING TO GET IN THERE AND DO IT?
WELL, NO.

BUT YOU WOULD LIKE NOT TO, BUT YOU WILL IF YOU HAVE TO?

THE CHOICE IN JUNE, I THINK FOR US, IS THERE A FINANCING PACKAGE OUT THERE THAT ALLOWS THE PROJECT TO PENCIL, AND SHOULD WE BREAK GROUND? OR IS THE PROJECT DEAD, AND DO WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE CHOICE IN FRONT OF US NEXT SUMMER.

JUST TO CLARIFY, DID YOU JUST SAY THE PROJECT IS DEAD?
JUST SPEAKING IN TERMS OF REALITY. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE DONE TO DATE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS. ALL OF THE MONEY WE HAVE SPENT

HAS BEEN IN THE EFFORT OF NOT BUILDING THE PROJECT, ALLOWING IT TO COME TO FRUITION AND TO FLOURISH.

OKAY. WELL, THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HEARD TWO YEARS AGO, THAT THERE WAS JUST NO WAY THIS PROJECT WAS GOING TO FAIL.

YEAH.

THAT'S A NEW PERSPECTIVE.

SURE, YEAH. I THINK, I SAID THIS NINE MONTHS AGO, FAILURE OF THIS PROJECT WOULD

BE FAIRLY CATASTROPHIC FOR US AS A MOM-AND-POP DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, GIVEN HOW MUCH WE'VE -- HOW MUCH WE'VE INVESTED TO DATE. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT NAIVE. DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, IS SUCH THAT FAILURE HAPPENS AND COMPANIES SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WITH QUESTIONS? I HAVE A FEW. I JUST DON'T WANT TO MISS ANYONE. OKAY. A COUPLE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR YOU IS JUST BASED ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS YOU MADE. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE CITY COULD DO TO HELP IT IN SECURING FINANCING? AND ALSO WHAT COULD WE DO TO MAKE OURSELVES MORE ATTRACTIVE OR PROVEN? YOU'VE USED THAT WORD WITH HEALDSBURG. SO MY

QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANYTHING THE CITY COULD HELP WITH AS FAR AS MAKING IT MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR LENDERS?
YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. I THINK EVERYTHING THE CITY HAS DONE TO DATE HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL. I IMAGINE WITH LENDERS, THE SORT OF BIG CAVEATS ARE Agenda Item Number 3
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STABILITY AND PREDICTABILITY, AND THE CITY HAS BEEN A REALLY GREAT PARTNER WITH US. YOU KNOW, FROM ENTITLEMENTS UP UNTIL NOW, TO HELP US FIND A PATH TOWARDS GROUND BREAKING. IN TERMS OF ANY ACTION THE CITY COULD TAKE TO HELP LENDERS SORT OF BECOME MORE COMFORTABLE. THAT'S AN INTERESTING ONE. I HAVEN'T -- I HAVEN'T TAUGHT HAD ABOUT THAT.

THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE IN THE PAST TOO ABOUT HEALDSBURG WAS PROVEN AND WE WEREN'T.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

I'M JUST ASKING LIKE, YOU KNOW, AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE, IF YOU COULD TELL US WHAT ACTUALLY HELPS WITH THAT? I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW WHAT HEALDSBURG LOOKS LIKE. HOW IT IS. BUT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE IF YOU'RE SAYING

THEY'RE PROVEN BY DEFAULT AND WE'RE NOT PROVEN, WHAT WOULD MAKE US PROVEN?
AND SORRY FOR THE DELAY OF MY SPEAKING, THERE'S JUST THAT NOISE. SO WHEN LENDERS SORT OF DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE ON THE POTENTIAL PROJECT. THE FIRST

THING THEY DO IS THEY CALL WHAT'S CALLED A COMP SET, WHICH IS SORT OF --

EXISTING HOTELS IN THE AREA IN THE SAME MARKET SEGMENT THAT ARE COMPARABLE, THE WORD, COMP, TO WHAT THIS PROJECT WOULD BE. AND THE DIFFICULTY WE'VE RUN

INTO IS THE COMPS IN SEBASTOPOL IS NON-EXISTENT, SO WE HAVE TO GO TOWARDS OTHER TOWNS SORT OF IN THE SONOMA COUNTY AREA. AND OBVIOUSLY HOTELS OF THE TYPE WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD HERE EXIST IN THAT AREA. IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT TRICKY

FOR BANKS TO GET REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH SOMETHING IN SEBASTOPOL VERSES HEALDSBURG OR OTHER PLACES. SO I THINK THAT SAID, A LOT OF THE ACTIONS OF THE

CITY AND A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE OPENING UP HAVE CERTAINLY PUT IT ON PEOPLE'S RADAR. THAT'S CERTAINLY HELPED SORT OF ESTABLISH SEBASTOPOL AS, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW IT'S A LOVELY PLACE. WHILE WE, IN THIS ROOM, ALL KNOW IT'S A LOVELY PLACE TO VISIT, BUT NOT EVERYONE DOES, RIGHT? SO I THINK THE WORD OF MOUTH IS DEFINITELY SPREADING. I THINK THE EFFORTS ARE CERTAINLY HELPING. BUT

IN TERMS OF ACTUAL CONCRETE ACTIONABLE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL COULD DO

WITH LENDERS, I'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT, AND I'LL HAVE TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW.

WILL AND I THINK WE'RE IN A UNIQUE POSITION BECAUSE WE'RE IN -- WE DO HAVE THE BARLOW THAT'S IN THE PROCESS. SO OBVIOUSLY IT SOUNDS BASED ON WHAT WE'VE LEARNED THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO GET FUNDING. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW

IT'S DIFFERENT FOR YOU VERSES THEM AS FAR AS COMPS AND WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND I UNDERSTAND THE PROMPTS AND THEY HELD A REAL ESTATE LICENSE, AND WE GET ALL OF THAT. BUT I'M JUST SAYING COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES HERE,

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONUNDRUM HERE AND WHEN BOTH REQUIRE LENDING AND FUNDING.

SURE. YES, SO I THINK AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH BARNEY AT THE BARLOW. AND I'M NOT SURE THE LATEST ON HIS EFFORTS, THE LAST WE TALKED. WE WERE SORT OVERCOMES RATING AND SHARING STORIES ABOUT THE DIFFICULTIES OF THE MOMENT. I DO KNOW THIS PROJECT, THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, AT

LEAST THE SORT OF INITIAL ESTIMATES THAT HE HAD ARE LOWER THAN WHAT OUR CONSTRUCTION COSTS WERE COMING IN AT ON THE PER KEY BASIS. I ALSO KNOW THAT

THEY'RE -- THE SITUATION THEY'RE IT IN THAT IS FROM THE CAPITAL PERSPECTIVE, THAT

THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM TO WORK WITH, SO THAT MIGHT BE LEADING INTO HIS COMMUNICATION ABOUT HOW WELL FINANCING IS GOING. BUT FOR US SPECIFICALLY, IT'S AN $85 MILLION PROJECT TO BUILD $66 HOTEL ROOMS, RESTAURANTS, SPA, RETAIL, AND THE ROOFTOP BAR. IT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE HIGH-QUALITY PROJECT.

AND SO I THINK AS DESIGN, THAT IS PROBABLY WHY WE'RE COMING INTO THE ISSUES WE'RE COMING INTO. WITH THE ADDED CAVEATS OF RATES AND THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS. BUT HOPEFULLY THE IDEA IS TO GET IT PERHAPS MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT BARNEY IS THINKING. BUT I DON'T KNOW. I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN HIS PER FORMA OR HIS

DESIGNS WELL ENOUGH TO GIVE CREDENCE TO WHATEVER FINANCING NUMBERS HE'S COMMUNICATED.

GOT IT. I SAW VICE MAYOR, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP?
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YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT SEBASTOPOL SERVES 50,000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS AREA. SO ALL THEIR VISITORS ARE COMING. WE HAVE ONE HOTEL RIGHT NOW.

AND WE HAVE ONE ON THE WAY IN THE BARLOW. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A PRETTY GOOD OPPORTUNITY. WHERE ARE PEOPLING STAYING? AT THAT TIME, WE HAD TWO. SO I THINK HEALDSBURG PROBABLY HAS 20 OR MORE. YOU'RE BUILDING IN HEALDSBURG AND YOU'RE TRUSTING THAT. I DON'T GET IT YOU WOULDN'T SUPPORT YOUR HOTEL AND WHY THE LENDERS WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT FINANCIALLY. I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. I WOULD JUST LIKE YOU TO COMMENT ON THAT, PLEASE?
YEAH, NO, NO, NO. ABSOLUTELY. I AGREE IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. I -- YOU KNOW, YOU -- WE HAVEN'T HAD TO HAVE BEEN CONVINCED, RIGHT? US AS A FIRM, WE'VE BEEN HIGH ON SEBASTOPOL FOR THE LAST DECADE. AND YOU KNOW, OUR INVESTMENT TO DATE IS SORT OF COMMUNE HAD KATEING HOW JAZZED WE ARE ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW,

UNFORTUNATELY I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WE COULD SELF-FINANCE THIS AND BREAK GROUND TOMORROW. BUT I THINK IT IS A TRICKY MOMENT IN HOSPITALITY LENDING. IT'S A TRICKY MOMENT IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS. WE ARE SEEING, I DON'T KNOW, SERIOUSLY, I APOLOGIZE. I'M JOINED TONIGHT BY OUR -- BY THE CO-FOUNDER OF PIAZZA HOSPITALITY, THIRSTY SHARE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT US THAT NEEDS THE CONVINCING, IT'S THE LENDERS. SO THAT'S THE LAW WE'VE BEEN HITTING UP AGAINST.

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO GO, RIGHT?
I'M SORRY, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?
APOLOGIES. I'M A PARTNER OF DANIELI'S. I'M JUST GOING TO COMMENT ON SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

AND I DID NOT HEAR EVERYTHING THAT THEY SAID, BUT I FEEL RIGHT NOW IT'S THE SPREAD. WHILE WE CAN GET SOME BIG FINANCING, AND WE HAVE OUR INVESTORS. THE COSTS AND THE INTEREST RATES HAVE GONE UP. FOR US, WE NEED MORE CAPITAL.

THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF IT. FIND US A CAPITAL PARTNER. THAT'S HOW YOU CAN HELP US.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW. BECAUSE WHILE WE HAVE THE MONEY, AND THEN RATES SKYROCKETED. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT RISK? IT'S NOT -- YOU KNOW, WE ARE SMALL. WE ARE NOT OPERATING IN A BEARISH PROPERTY. WE ARE OPERATING A PIAZZA PROPERTY. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT BANKS LOOK AT THAT WAY. DO YOU WANT TO KNOW BEARISH IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN? I DON'T THINK SO. SO ANY WAY THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF IT, AND WE ARE STILL WORKING ON IT. I MEAN, I TALKED TO TWO PEOPLE LAST WEEK TO HELP US FIND CAPITAL PARTNERS. SO WE ARE WORKING ON IT. IT'S JUST THAT IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE, AND WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT WAYS TO MAKE IT LESS EXPENSIVE. AND BELIEVE ME, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I LOVE SEBASTOPOL. I THINK IT IS AN AWESOME PLACE. I GET THAT IT SERVES SO

MUCH OF A GREATER MARKET ON THE WEST COUNTY, AND THEY HAVE A LOT TO OFFER BEYOND WINE AND, YOU KNOW, PROXIMITY TO THE COAST. SO MANY GOOD THINGS. SO WE ARE STILL VERY INTERESTED, AND FIND US SOME MORE MONEY. WE WILL BUILD IT.

WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO COMMENT SINCE I ASKED, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY AS A COUNCIL, WE'RE NOT FINDING YOU MONEY. BUT IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE COULD DO AS A CITY TO MAKE IT MORE APPEALING, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO I'M TRYING TO SEE. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP, AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY ONE THING COUNCIL IS DOING WITH THIS ENTERPRISE

COMMITTEE AND THE OTHER THINGS IS TRYING TO HELP YOU SOLVE THIS CHICKEN AND

EGG PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, WITH HAVING AN UNDERKNOWN MARKET FOR THIS KIND OF THING. LIKE WHY DO PEOPLE COME TO SEBASTOPOL WHEN THE BUSINESS IS HERE? IS THERE A NATURAL DRAW? CAN IT SUPPORT A HOTEL.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE INTO QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M GETTING COMMENTS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN THE QUESTIONS. JUST ASKING.

QUESTION MARK? > [ LAUGHTER ] I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN THE COMMENTS YET. I WANT TO KEEP US ON TRACK.

YEAH. WE'LL GET TO IT LATER.

OKAY. [ LAUGHTER ] COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
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YES. SO I'M STILL STUCK ON THIS PROJECT, THIS FOURTH PROJECT IN HEALDSBURG BECAUSE I TOOK NOTES. I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS APPROVED FOUR YEARS AGO, BUT YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO SOMETHING FOR US FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. SO I'M CONFUSED. SO YOU HAVE ENOUGH TRUST IN THEM TO GO THROUGH THIS ROCKY

FINANCIAL PERIOD TO DO A FOURTH PROJECT, BUT NOT WITH US OR DID I NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?
SORRY IF I WAS UNCLEAR OR MISSPOKE IN ANY WAY. NO, OUR PROJECT IN HEALDSBURG HAS NOT BEEN MOVING FORWARD. IT'S ENTITLED, BUT IT'S NOT MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY.

VICE MAYOR?

BUT ISN'T IT TRUE YOU HAVE A HOTEL PROJECT THAT YOU'VE BEEN BUILDING FOR THE LAST SO MANY YEARS IN HEALDSBURG RIGHT NOW? I MEAN, HAVEN'T YOU BEEN WORKING ON ONE? OR IN THE LAST --
THE LAST HOTEL PROJECT WE BUILT AND OPENED IN HEALDSBURG WAS IN 2018.

OKAY.

YOU COMPLETED IT IN 2018?
IT OPENED IN 2018, CORRECT.

A QUESTION I HAVE, AND IT IS MORE THAN NUTS AND BOLTS. SOMEONE AT PIAZZA TOLD

ME IN THE PAST, SOME OF THE FINANCING YOU'RE OBTAINING THROUGH FEDERAL

MONEY AND THERE WAS AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL SURVEY DIG, WHATEVER, THAT TO HAPPEN ON THAT PROPERTY. HAS THAT BEEN DONE YET? I UNDERSTAND IT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE DONE BY SONOMA STATE. AND IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT? WHERE IS THAT AT TO HELP YOU GET DOWN TO THE FINANCING? SURE, YES. SO AS YOU MENTIONED, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SONOMA STATE

UNIVERSITY TO HELP US SORT OF COLLECT AND CATALOG ANY ARCHAEOLOGICAL ITEMS THAT WE DO FIND. WE HAVE SOME INITIAL WORK THAT HAPPENED WHEN WE

DEMOLISHED THE BUILDING BECAUSE IT WAS A GROUND DISTURBANCE ACTIVITY, SO WE

HAD MONITORS THAT CAME AND FOUND SOME ARTIFACTS, WHICH LED TO THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL REQUIREMENT. PLAN IS NOT -- IT'S NOT A BARRIER TO SORT OF A TIMELY GROUND BREAKING. IT'S A TWO TO THREE-WEEK PROCESS, WHERE THEY'VE

IDENTIFIED SORT OF THE MOST LIKELY AREAS TO CONTAIN DEPOSITS, AND THEY'LL GO IF AND DO THEIR WORK. I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH SOIL THEY'RE REMOVING, BUT AT

CERTAIN POINTS, THEY'RE COLLECTING ARTIFACTS, BRINGING THEM OFF SITE TO ANALYZE AND CATALOG THEM.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, IT WOULD BE TWO TO THREE WEEKS FOR GROUND BREAKING WHERE THAT PROCESS WOULD TAKE PLACE.

OKAY, IS THAT A COST TO YOU?
YES, IT'S A $100,000 CONTRACT, YES.

OKAY. AND SO THAT IS STILL IN PLACE, AND IT IS SORT OF PENDING THERE. I GUESS IS

THERE A REASON THAT YOU WOULDN'T JUST GET THAT DONE, SO YOU COULD CONTINUE TO MOVE ALONG WITH US?

WELL, I MEAN, I THINK IT IS -- IT WOULD BE PAID FOR THROUGH PROCEEDS FROM OUR CONSTRUCTION LOAN BECAUSE IT'S A PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. SO WE ARE

WAITING TO GREEN LIGHT IT BEFORE WE -- SO WE'RE WAITING TO HAVE AN IMPROVED LOAN BEFORE GREEN LIGHTING IT.

AND SO THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDING THEN? I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M TOLD AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. IT DOES HAVE, IT IS RELATED TO FEDERAL FUNDING BECAUSE THE

CITY AND STATE ARCHAEOLOGICAL REQUIREMENTS ARE LESS STRINGENT THAN THE FEDERAL ARCHAEOLOGICAL REQUIREMENTS. SO AS A RESULT OF THE -- REFERRED OF THE FUNDING PROGRAM, WHICH I MENTIONED EARLIER IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM. WE ARE

SUBJECT TO FEDERAL REGULATIONS, WHICH MEANS FROM AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH FEDERAL LAW. AND BECAUSE OF THAT

FUNDING IS STILL IN PLACE AND WILL BE A PART OF OUR PACKAGE, IT IS STILL A REQUIREMENT FOR US.

I SEE, THANK YOU.

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OF COURSE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO? IF NOT, THEN WE CAN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M NOT SURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I CAN'T HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE ROOM THERE. I SEE MARY.

WE'RE GOOD TO GO AHEAD TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. SORRY, WE WERE CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THE FRONT DOOR WAS OPEN. SO THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE INFORMATIONAL ITEM ON THE REPORT ON THE HOTEL SEBASTOPOL. IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S A TWO-MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT. I GO TO CHAMBERS, THEN ZOOM. IF ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE GO AHEAD.

IT'S KIND OF -- I THOUGHT -- I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY IT DIDN'T GET ASKED. IF

HE'S GOING TO BREAK GROUND AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL

INFORMATION DONE BEFORE, COULD IT NOT STOP YOU FROM BREAKING GROUND IF THEY

DECIDED THERE WAS SOME ISSUE IN THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL --
SO THIS IS JUST FOR PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW.

I CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS?

YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION, BUT WE'LL COME BACK TO IT AT THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU. SO I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. OLIVER, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, FIRST? YES, I'M UNMUTED.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN, YEAH.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I'M JUST THINKING THIS IS LIKE A TEN-YEAR ANNIVERSARY EXPLANATION OF WHY WE

HAVE A HUGE PIECE OF LAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY, JUST SITTING THERE WITH TUMBLE WEEDS ON IT, WHILE PEOPLE DRIVE BY AND DECIDE NOT TO STOP IN THE CITY.

WHILE WE WERE -- YOU WERE TALKING, I WAS LOOKING AT MY COMPUTER AND REMEMBERING THE TRACTOR SUPPLY COMPANY THAT USED TO BE THERE. WE HAD A

COUPLE OF OLD TRACTORS PARKED OUTSIDE, WHICH WAS VERY MUCH IN THE SPIRIT OF THE CITY, AS PEOPLE DROVE THROUGH. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE IS THE

ARCHAEOLOGICAL THING THAT'S BEEN BUZZING AROUND FOR YEARS, AND THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE REALLY IMPORTANT, IF THAT IS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT. THAT'S WHERE THE OLD CHINATOWN WAS, AS I WAS LED TO UNDERSTAND. SO TO ME, I DON'T

KNOW IT IF THEY COULD FIND GRANTS OR SOMETHING FOR THAT OR SOMETHING COULD BE DONE TO SEE IF THEY COULD EVEN BUILD A HOTEL THERE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. AND

PRESUMABLY THAT WOULD LIMIT THINGS, ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD BE DONE ON THE LAND, IN CASE DAMAGE IS DONE TO THE HISTORICAL ARTIFACTS. BUT HAVING SAID THAT, I MEAN, I WASN'T A FAN OF THE PUBLIC ART THAT WAS THERE. I WOULD REALLY

LIKE TO SEE THAT LAND, IF IT IS NOT BEING USED BY PIAZZA TO ACTUALLY BREAK GROUND AND BUILD A HOTEL. THEY SHOULD BE MAKING A WHOLE LOT OF AN EFFORT TO

MAKE THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL LOOK A LOT MORE ATTRACTIVE TO PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH, EVEN IF IT IS SOME SORT OF HISTORICAL EXHIBIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AN EXPLANATION OF THE UPCOMING HOTEL. OBVIOUSLY IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS CROSSROAD. IN ALL OF THE SONOMA COUNTY. SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE VERY

CAREFUL WITH PEDESTRIANS AND SO ON, SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WOULD LIKE TO

SEE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS, AND IT IS APPARENT THAT NOTHING WILL HAPPEN FOR ANOTHER FEW YEARS. SO THAT'S MY PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF

ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

IT SEEMS AS IF WHAT SEBASTOPOL IS ACTUALLY -- BY THE NUMBERS AND BY THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE AND HOW FULL OUR CURRENT ONE HOTEL IS. WHAT WOULD BE SORT OF A HOOK, LINE, ZINGER IS WHAT THE PROJECT WAS A HOTEL. IT SEEMS LIKE THE ADDITION OF THE RETAIL SPACES. THE SPAS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, WHICH WE HAVE AN ABUNDANCE HERE. AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN THIS TOWN, IT'S HARD TO

BE A SMALL BUSINESS AND CONTINUE TO DO WHAT I DO AND MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO IT TO EMPLOYEE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOCAL AND ALL THOSE THINGS. IS THERE A DRAFT OF THIS PROJECT THAT IS JUST A HOTEL?
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. KATE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU, CAN YOU STILL SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

GREAT, GO AHEAD, PLEASE?
I HAVE TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS. ONE IS THE TYPE OF HOTEL THAT'S BUILT. THE NUMBER

OF ROOMS AND THE PRICE OF THE ROOMS HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON THE REVENUE FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF T.O.T. AND SO THEREFORE THE PROJECT OF THE HOTEL SHOULD BE

THOUGHT OF IN CONCERT, NOT ONLY OF THE DEVELOPER'S NEEDS, OF COURSE, BUT ALSO THE CITY'S NEEDS FOR REVENUE. SO IF THE DEVELOPER SCALES BACK THE NUMBER OF

ROOMS OR THE KIND OF PRICE POINT OF THE ROOMS THAT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON THE CITY'S REVENUE AND THE CITY'S BUDGET. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO

BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THIS IS A PRIME PIECE OF DEVELOPABLE LAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY. AND SO IF WE FORFEIT THIS LAND TO A

PROJECT THAT DOESN'T END UP GENERATING ITS FULL POTENTIAL FOR REVENUE, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO KIND OF TURN BACK THE CLOCK ON THAT. SO EACH PIECE OF LAND

THAT'S DEVELOPED IN CITY LIMITS OF SEBASTOPOL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE AN

ECONOMIC GENERATOR FOR THE CITY ITSELF, SO THE CITY COULD DO THINGS LIKE PAVE OUR ROADS, AND MAINTAIN OUR PARKS. SO WE HAVE LOST A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LAND TO PROPERTIES THAT GENERATE NO REVENUE AND TAKE RESOURCES. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A PART OF THE EQUATION. MY SECOND COMMENT FOLLOWS OLIVER'S

COMMENT, AND THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE LOT MORE ACTIVE, EVEN IF IT IS IN TERMS OF WRAPPING THE TREES IN SOLAR LIGHTS. IT IS VERY DANGEROUS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE LOT FROM THE BUSY INTERSECTIONS. BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO LINK IT MORE DIRECTLY

WITH THE BARLOW, SO THAT PEOPLE COULD PERHAPS ACCESS PART OF IT FOR LIKE, YOU

KNOW, A SMALL DOG RUN --
KATE, THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD

LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE BACK AT THE DAIS FOR COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES BEFORE I DO MINE? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW WE HAD THESE TWO QUESTIONS, IF I CAN JUST ASK THEM VERY QUICKLY OF OUR -- FROM PIAZZA. IT'S A QUESTION I STILL WONDER. COULD NOT DOING THE DIG I HAD ASKED ABOUT FOR THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL STUFF. COULDN'T THAT, IN FACT, DELAY THE PROJECT IF YOU DON'T GET THAT DONE? I MEAN, I'VE HEARD THIS SO

MANY TIMES FROM DIFFERENT --
RIGHT. SOY THINK IT WOULD BE THE TYPICAL WAY THAT ARCHAEOLOGICAL DIGS HAPPEN AS IT RELATES TO GROUND DISTURBANCE AND DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S

USUALLY AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL -- ARCHAEOLOGIST ON SITE SORT OF MONITORING THE ACTIVITY AND LOOKING FOR ARTIFACTS AS DIRT IS BEING MOVED, RIGHT? AS A RESULT

OF OUR FEDERALLY FUNDED LOAN PROJECT, WE HAVE A RECOVERY PLAN THAT HAS

BEEN APPROVED BY THE FEDERAL REGULATORY AGENCY IN TERMS OF THEM BEING

GOOD WITH WHAT WE'RE DIGGING, REMOVING THE ARTIFACTS, AND SETTING THEM ON SITE. SO THE SCHEDULE THAT I GAVE, YOU KNOW, TWO TO THREE WEEKS, IS VERY MUCH A KNOWN SCHEDULE. THERE'S NOTHING THAT COULD HAPPEN THAT WOULD -- THAT

WOULD DELAY IT BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF AGREED UPON ARCHAEOLOGICAL DIG AND MANEUVER. SO THERE IS REALLY NO UNKNOWNS OR RISKS AS A RESULT OF THE

PREVIOUS GROUND DISTURBANCE AND THE PREVIOUS MONITORING THAT WAS DONE WHEN THE BUILDING, THE FORMER BUILDING WAS BEING DEMOLISHED.

OKAY. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, JUST ABOUT THE DRAFT OF THE HOTEL.

YEAH, THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE LOOK AT. IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO NOTE ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENTER SORT OF ELUDED TO THIS. EVERY TIME YOU EITHER

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PROJECT, IT CHANGES THE PER FORMA AND THE BOTTOM LINE. WE TRIED TO MAXIMIZE

THE GOLDEN TICKET OF THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THE HOTEL ROOMS THEMSELVES. BUT IN ORDER TO SELL THE HOTEL ROOMS, AND IN ORDER TO GET A

CERTAIN RATE FOR THE HOTEL ROOMS, YOU DO HAVE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL

AMENITIES, BE IT SPAS, RESTAURANTS, BE IT SORT OF LOVELY CURATED RETAIL OR LOVELY GROUNDS. SO IT IS A DELICATE ROPE TO WALK. BUT YES, WE ARE CONSIDERING

ALTERNATIVES THAT CHANGE THE SORT OF LAND USE MIXED WITHIN THE

DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT COULD LEAD TO MORE HOTEL ROOMS, LESS RETAIL AS AN EXAMPLE.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING THOSE. I JUST THINK THIS WILL BE AN IMPORTANT TOPIC, AND PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING IT. I WANTED TO ADDRESS THIS.

THANK YOU. AND THEN DID ANYONE AT THE DAIS HAVE ANY COMMENTS? COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
THANK YOU. THIS HOTEL IS PARTLY WHY I RAN FOR OFFICE IN 2016. I WANTED TO BE

INVOLVED AND HOW SEBASTOPOL GREW AND WAS SHAPED, AND THIS HOTEL WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST TOPICS ON THE YEAR I RAN FOR OFFICE. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IT FOR A LONG TIME. I THINK VERY HIGHLY OF THESE OPERATORS. I'VE VISITED THEIR

PROJECT THAT THEY OPENED IN SAN LUIS OBISPO, AND OBVIOUSLY COVID CHANGED A LOT OF THINGS. UNFORTUNATELY I THINK FOR OUR TOWN, WE'VE LOST GREG BIEL'S

PROJECT, AND I'M ALSO VERY WELL AWARE OF THE HOLE THAT SITS IN THE CENTER OF WINDSOR, THE HOTEL STOPPED, THAT'S TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD IN PETALUMA. SO WE ARE NOT ALONE. I DON'T TAKE THIS PERSONALLY. IT'S A HUGE PROJECT, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL

PROJECT, AND I UNDERSTAND I DON'T WANT A HOTEL BUILT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR TOWN THAT FOLDS OR SOMETHING. THEY HAVE TO HAVE FINANCING THEY CAN LIVE WITH. SO I DO THINK WEST COUNTY, AND I KNOW THEY KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE AIRBNBs TO RELY ON AND ONE LITTLE TINY HOTEL, WHICH PEOPLE, WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE. BUT IT'S MODERATE. IT'S FULL A LOT. IT DOESN'T REFLECT WHAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR. I'M SUPPORTIVE TONIGHT OF THE EXTENSION. I HOPE YOU CAN FIGURE OUT YOUR OTHER HALF OF FINANCING. YOU COME, YOU STAND IN FRONT OF US.

YOU'VE GOT A PROJECT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS TONIGHT.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE COMMENTS? OKAY. I JUST HAVE A FEW THEN IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY. FIRST OF ALL I THINK IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THE HOTEL, AND I SAY IT THIS WITH HUMOR THAT IT HAS BECOME AN URBAN LEGEND. PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME. THE HOTEL THAT IS NOT COMING, THAT IS COMING. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS COME TO FRUITION. AND I HAVE -- I JUST HAVE GREAT CONCERN OVER WHAT'S

HAPPENING, AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT ALONE TO COUNCILMEMBER HINTON'S WORDS, AS FAR AS ALL THE DIFFERENT HOTELS. I'M HOPING PERHAPS, AND MAYBE THIS IS ALREADY HAPPENING WITH CITY STAFF. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR THE

COUNCIL, FOR US, AND FOR ME PARTICULARLY, TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE IS ANY WAY

THAT WE, AS A COUNCIL, IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE THE DOWNTOWN. IF THAT WOULD HELP IN ANY WAY. I'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE, WE'RE NOT A PROVEN MARKET. I CONTINUE TO SAY IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TWEAK, TO HELP, TO MAKE THE PLACE MORE ATTRACTIVE. I HOPE YOU WOULD FEEL THE

PIAZZA WOULD COMMUNICATE WITH US, AND WE SEE THIS AS A SHARED PROJECT FOR US. I MEAN, THE T.O.T. IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO US. SO AT ANY WAY, I'M SUPPORTING THIS

FOR NOW, BUT I'M JUST HOPING, YOU KNOW, AS I SEE SOME INTEREST RATES COMING DOWN. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT WILL LAST. BUT I JUST HOPE SOMEWHERE ALONG

THE LINE, THAT YOU MIGHT REACH A POINT WHERE YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING. AT ANY RATE, I'M SUPPORTING IT THIS EVENING WITH A BIT OF PAUSE AND

CONCERN OVER WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE JUST CONTINUING DOWN THIS DELAYED'S LONG PATH OF A NON-EXISTENT SPACE. ANY WAY, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE VICE MAYOR?

AND THERE IS NO ACTION REQUIRED TONIGHT, JUST THANK YOU FOR COMING AND TALKING TO US. THANK YOU FOR YOUR UPDATES. BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING?
THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS JUST AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM.

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THAT'S GREAT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. IF NOT, WE'LL ACCEPT IT HAD AND MOVE

ON, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING IN AND STANDING BEFORE EVERYBODY AND ANSWERING ALL THESE QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. LET ME JUST GET MY NEXT PAGE HERE, AND WE'LL MOVE ONTO, WELL, LET'S SEE. THAT'S THE END OF OUR INFORMATIONAL ITEMS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING, SO WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS OUR REGULAR CALENDAR. AGENDA ITEMS, DISCUSSIONS, AND/OR ACTIONS. NUMBER NINE IS OUR SPECIAL EVENT FEE WAIVERS, KIWANIS CLUB, APRIL 4 EASTER EGG HUNT. FEE WAIVER HAS BEEN REQUESTED IN THE AMOUNT OF $400. AND THIS IS PUBLIC WORKS, I BELIEVE?
YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS THE SPECIAL EVENT FOR THE KIWANIS CLUB THROWS ANNUALLY FOR THE EASTER EGG HUNT. IT OCCURRED LAST SATURDAY,

JUST BEFORE EASTER, AND THEY SUBMITTED A LETTER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION REQUESTING THAT THE EVENT FEES ARE WAIVED FOR THAT EVENT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
YEAH. USUALLY WE GET THESE REQUESTS BEFORE THE EVENT. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY, WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THIS? I MEAN IT WOULD BE GREAT IF SOMEBODY IS HERE THAT COULD THEN SPEAK TO LIKE HOW SUCCESSFUL THE EVENT WAS? WAS IT FREE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED? ANY WAY USUALLY WE GET THESE AHEAD OF TIME, SO I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR WHEN THIS CAME IN.

WE ASKED THE REQUEST AT THE BEGINNING OF MARCH, AND I MISSED JUST THE

DEADLINE FOR JUST THE MEETING BEFORE THIS, AND I NEEDED TO GET IT TO THE

BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THEIR ASSESSMENT, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA ITEM FOR MARCH 17. WE'LL HAVE ONES COMING

FORWARD AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR EVENTS THAT HAVE NOT TAKEN PLACE YET.

OKAY. SO CAN I ASK A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION? THIS IS A SMALL AMOUNT. IN THE PAST,

THESE SORT OF SMALL AMOUNTS DIDN'T NECESSARILY GO BEFORE THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, AND THEN TO THE FULL COUNCIL. IS THAT POLICY CHANGED OR COULD THIS HAVE COME STRAIGHT TO US, SO IT WASN'T DELAYED UNTIL AFTER THE EVENT? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ME.

ANY FINANCIAL MATTER NOW THAT IS EITHER A REVENUE THAT WE WILL BE MISSING OR A COST WE MIGHT BE WAIVING DOES GO TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE NOW.

OKAY. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND I APOLOGIZE, I CAN'T SEE VICE MAYOR. OKAY. I'M SORRY? DID YOU SAY SOMETHING?
NO.

OKAY. COOL. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEN WE CAN DO PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THE

REQUEST FOR THE WAIVER FEES FOR THE EASTER EGG HUNT THAT DID HAPPEN JUST RECENTLY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S A TWO-MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT. IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? THAT WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE EVENT? PLEASE COME UP.

THE SEBASTOPOL KIWANIS CLUB HAS BEEN DOING THIS EVENT FOR OVER 47 YEARS. IT IS ONE OF OUR FAVORITE EVENTS. IT GOES PERFECTLY WITH OUR MISSION, WHICH IS SERVICE TO CHILDREN. IT'S A GREAT FAMILY EVENT. AND I WOULD, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE FEE WAIVER. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, TO PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY? SEEING NONE, I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS? PLEASE.

IT IS A FREE EVENT FOR WHOEVER ASKED. IT'S BEEN FREE FOR 47 YEARS. WE RAISE

FUNDS FOR THE FIREWORKS TO PAY FOR THE EASTER EGG HUNT AND THE HALLOWEEN EVENT. SO IT IS FREE. LOTS OF HAPPY KIDS. AND WE DO PROVIDE ALL OF THE CANDY, THE MEMBERS CHIP IN, AND THE REST COMES FROM THE CLUB. SO THIS WOULD HELP A LOT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE?

I DIDN'T KNOW I WOULD COME TONIGHT, BUT I HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO KNOW FOR MANY YEARS. WHEN THE KIWANIS CLUB COMES DOWNTOWN AND ASKS FOR

DONATIONS FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES FOR THIS EVENT, I HAVE HAPPILY CONTRIBUTED TO THAT. NOT ONLY IS THE EVENT FREE FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, BUT AFTER THE Agenda Item Number 3
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EVENT, THE FAMILIES COME DOWNTOWN, AND THEY HAVE BREAKFAST. THEY COME AND GET THEIR EASTER COOKIE. THEY ARE SO FULL OF JOY AND HAPPINESS, AND SO MANY

PEOPLE COME IN TO MY BUSINESS, TALKING ABOUT WHAT A FANTASTIC TOWN THIS IS TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF EVENT FOR FAMILIES AND FOR CHILDREN, AND FOR OUR KIDS. IT'S

NOT JUST EXCLUSIVE TO THE PARK, BUT IT REALLY DOES BRING PEOPLE IN TO DOWNTOWN FROM ALL OVER WEST COUNTY. SO I FULLY SUPPORT WAIVING THEIR FEE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

VICE MAYOR?

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE WAIVER OF THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FEES FOR THE KIWANIS CLUB EASTER EGG HUNT IN THE AMOUNT OF $400.

I'LL SECOND.

AND I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT VERY QUICKLY. OH, COUNCILMEMBER HINTON, GO AHEAD, IF YOU WANT.

YEAH. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. AND I GUESS I WILL PURSUE THIS IN ANOTHER WAY.

BUT I THINK WITH A 47-YEAR-OLD TRADITION AND THIS TOWN THAT IS FREE THAT IS

ASKING FOR A WAIVER, AND I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO HAVE THIS COME TO FULL

COUNCIL, SO A SMALL ITEM LIKE THIS FEELS LIKE IT GOT HELD UP IN OUR PROCESS TO GO TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. MISSED THE FIRST COUNCIL DEADLINE, AND WE COULD HAVE APPROVED IT BEFORE THE EVENT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. SO I WANT TO RETHINK SMALL BUDGETARY ITEMS BECAUSE MAYBE WE CAN BRING THEM ALONG. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS NEW POLICY HAPPENED THAT IT COULDN'T GET TO THE COUNCIL QUICKER.

THAT'S MY COMMENT. AND I'LL PURSUE THAT IN ANOTHER FASHION.

I JUST WANT TO COMMENT. I SAW A LOT OF THE GOOD SOCIAL MEDIA COVERAGE OF THIS, THIS EVENT, SO I THINK IT WAS A FEEL GOOD THING FOR SEBASTOPOL. GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR?
YEAH. DID THE CLUB HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS AND THEN WE ARE REIMBURSING? IS THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING? AND COUNCILMEMBER HINTON, ARE YOU TRYING TO AVOID THAT?

I JUST WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN IT MAINSTREAM TO NOT GO TO THE BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE, THAT IT COULD HAVE COME STRAIGHT TO US.

OKAY.

NO FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
WELL, THERE WAS A QUESTION. ARE WE REIMBURSING OR DID THEY PAY FOR IT ALREADY? ARE WE REIMBURSING OR HAVE THEY NOT PAID FOR IT? I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE PUBLIC WORKS. I DON'T TAKE IN ANY APPLICATIONS.

I'M NOT AWARE IF THEY CAME IN. WE COULD ASK BRUCE. IT WOULD BE A REIMBURSEMENT. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

OKAY. JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE ALL QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, CORRECT? SO WE CAN JUST --
WE DO. SO MOVED BY VICE MAYOR MAURER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER

TO APPROVE THIS SPECIAL EVENT FEE WAIVER FOR THE KIWANIS CLUB FOR THE EASTER EGG HUNT IN THE AMOUNT OF $400. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?
YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
AYE.

COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
YES.

VICE MAYOR MAURER?
YES.

MAYOR MCLEWIS?
YES.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO NUMBER 10. APPROVAL OF

MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH SERVICE EMPLOYEES' INTERNATIONAL UNION LOCAL, SEIU1021, AND THIS WOULD BE COVERED BY ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE THE ITEM, AND THEN HAVE OUR HUMAN RESOURCES CONSULTANT PROVIDE THE REPORT. SO AS YOU JUST STATED, THIS IS THE Agenda Item Number 3
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MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR THE SEIU EMPLOYEES, WHICH IS PUBLIC WORKS AND ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. AFTER MONTHS OF NEGOTIATIONS, WE WERE ABLE TO GET TO AN AGREEMENT. THEY RATIFIED THE -- THE GROUP RATIFIED THE PROPOSAL, SO IT IS NOW BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO PROVIDE THE OTHER REMAINING INFORMATION.

OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS IS DEBORAH, HUMAN RESOURCE ADVISOR FOR THE CITY. YES, THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS TO REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE

SUCCESS MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL AND THE SERVICE EMPLOYEES INTERNATIONAL UNION. LOCAL 1021. SO OVER SEVEN MONTHS,

THE CITY AND SEIU MET AND CONFERRED IN GOOD FAITH, AND CAME UP WITH A KEY

ELEMENT IN TERMS OF THE SUCCESS FOR THE MOU, AGREEING ON THE ONE-TIME OFF SCHEDULED PAYMENT OF $3,000 FOR EACH MEMBER, WHICH MEANS IT DOESN'T GET REPORTED. THE ONGOING COST OF THE SALARY INCREASE. MONTHLY BILINGUAL STIPEND FOR UP TO TWO EMPLOYEES. AND A REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM FOR SONOMA COUNTY REGIONAL PARKS PASS, ONCE A YEAR. AND THEN THERE IS ALSO SOME OTHER NON-MONETARY AGREEMENTS AROUND CONTRACTING OUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE SUCCESSOR MOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? FROM ANYONE? OKAY. THANK YOU, DEBORAH.

THANK YOU. MARY, DO WE WANT TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE APPROVAL OF THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE SEIU BARGAINING GROUP. I WILL COME TO CHAMBERS FIRST. SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT ZOOM. IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. KYLE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

YES, I CAN.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YEAH, I CAN.

GREAT, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I'M ABOUT TO STEP OUT OF THE ROOM FOR A MOMENT FOR THE PRESENTATION. BUT I'M

HOPING THERE WAS SOME CLEAR COMMUNICATION FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT HOW LONG THIS PROCESS WENT ON, AND WHAT LED UP TO THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT. THERE WERE

STRIKE SANCTIONS THAT WERE AUTHORIZED BY THE UNION AS A RESULT OF FAILED NEGOTIATIONS. THAT LED US TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE THIS CONTRACT TODAY. SO I'M HOPING THAT WAS CLEARLY ARTICULATED IN THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

SECONDLY I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH, BUT THERE WAS SOME PUBLIC COMMENT PARTICULARLY ABOUT A CLAUSE IN THERE. IT SEEMED LIKE A FIRST RIGHT

OVER REFUSAL FOR PROVIDING SERVICES THAT WERE THEN IN SCOPE OF THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THOSE POSITIONS. THIS GOES TO A LONG STANDING CONCERN THIEF SHARED WITH THIS COUNCIL, WHICH IS WE ARE OUTSOURCING LABOR.

LABOR THAT IS UNIONIZED LABOR WITH JOB DESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE WELL WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY. SO I JUST HOPE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT ABOUT THAT CLAUSE. AND IN PARTICULAR ABOUT HOW THE

RESPONSIBILITIES OF CITY AND CITY MANAGEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK

THAT WE ARE AUTHORIZING IS WITHIN SCOPE OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE DOING THAT

WORK, AND WE'RE NOT USING, YOU KNOW, TACTICS LIKE EMERGENCY NEED OR, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN RECOGNIZING DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, RIGHT? SO WHEN YOU

DEFER THE MAINTENANCE ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR AS LONG AS WE HAVE, WE GET

TO A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE EMERGENCY NEED OF REPAIR, WHERE IF WE HAD

ACTUALLY AUTHORIZED FOR OUR OWN LABOR TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO OUR CITY,

THEN WE WOULDN'T BE IN THOSE POSITIONS THAT WE ARE HAVING TO GO TO THE OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS IN THE LAST MINUTE. SO MAYBE ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE THINGS WOULD BE GREAT. THANKS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL COME BACK. I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. LEE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
YEP.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
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I CAN.

GREAT, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

YEAH, I THINK I WAS THE PUBLIC COMMENT KYLE WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT SINCE I'VE SUBMITTED MY PUBLIC COMMENT. IT APPEARS IT'S A STATE LAW. THAT'S INTERESTING. IT WASN'T EXPLAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT. IT WOULD SAVE ME SOME TIME, BECAUSE THEN I WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING IT. I DO THINK, AND THIS IS TO

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON'S, YOU KNOW, COMMENT ABOUT THE INEFFICIENCIES OF SOMETHING LIKE A $400 REQUEST THAT PROBABLY COST US $800 TO PROCESS THROUGH ALL THE LEVELS OF BUREAUCRACY THAT WE HAVE IN A CITY OF 3,000 PEOPLE. BUT I

THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE FOR SOMEBODY IN THE COUNCIL TO ASK MORE ABOUT THE 45-DAY REQUIREMENT BEFORE RFP CAN BE SUBMITTED. HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE MANAGED? WILL IT HAPPEN BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL GETS THE RFP? SO THE UNION WILL MEET WITH THE CITY, THEN AGREE TO IT TO SUBMIT IT TO THE COUNCIL.

DOES THAT DELAY THE PROJECT? THAT IS EXPENSIVE. I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD

TO UNDERSTAND MAYBE THINGS WILL HAPPEN A LOT SLOWER IF THEY EVER THOUGHT THEY WERE MOVING FAST. THANKS.

THANK YOU, LEE. NEXT, I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR MAURER WITH THE SERVICE EMPLOYEES INTERNATIONAL UNION. LOCAL 1021.

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?
YES.

HINTON?
AYE.

ZOLLMAN?
YES.

MAURER?
YES.

MAYOR MCLEWIS?
YES.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE. MOVING ONTO NUMBER 11. CONSIDERATION

OF GOOD CAUSE DETERMINATION FOR AUTOMATIC REMOVAL OF PLANNING

COMMISSIONER DUE TO ABSENCES PURSUANT TO SEBASTOPOL MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 2.24.030. THIS IS COVERED BY -- IS IT OUR PLANNING AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO IS PLANNING TO LEAD THIS.

I CAN START THIS ONE, MAYOR. THANK YOU, JANE RILEY, INTERIM PLANNING DIRECTOR, AGAIN, CONTRACT POSITION. THIS IS RATHER AN UNFORTUNATE ITEM, AND I'M SORRY TO BE BRINGING IT TO YOU. WE HAVE A PIECE OF OUR CODE THAT SAYS WHEN A PLANNING

COMMISSIONER MISSES THREE MEETINGS IN A ROW, THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY OFF OF THE COMMISSION. THAT'S A PIECE OF CODE. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT. WE DO HAVE COMMISSIONER HERE WHO IS HERE TO MAKE A GOOD

CAUSE CLAIM, IF THE CITY COUNCIL FINDS THAT HE MISSED THESE MEETINGS WITH GOOD CAUSE, THEN THEY MAY REAPPOINT HIM TO THE COMMISSION IMMEDIATELY. IF

THEY DO NOT FIND THE GOOD CAUSE HAS OCCURRED, THEN THEY WOULD DECLARE VACANCY ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AGAIN, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. AND COMMISSIONER IS HERE. I WILL SAY IN THE COMMISSIONER'S DEFENSE THAT I DID NOT REALIZE HE WAS ON THREE IN A ROW UNTIL IT HAD ALREADY HAPPENED. HAD I

REALIZED THAT, I WOULD HAVE REACHED OUT, AND WE MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AVOID THIS SITUATION. SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.

OKAY. AND IS ANYONE, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, WERE YOU DOING ANYTHING ON THIS? Agenda Item Number 3
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NO. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL TONIGHT WHETHER OR NOT TO GRANT THE GOOD CAUSE OR NOT.

GOT IT, OKAY. SO THEN THE QUESTION I HAVE, WE'RE BACK AT THE DAIS HERE. THIS IS AN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, IF

WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMISSIONER FIRST OR IF YOU JUST HAVE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO -- GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR? HE IS STANDING AT THE PODIUM.

I'M SORRY. I CAN'T SEE THE PODIUM.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT HE JUST MAKE A STATEMENT.

OKAY, SORRY. NOW I CAN SEE. THANK YOU. SORRY, I DIDN'T REALIZE. GO AHEAD.

YEAH, THANK YOU. ALEX KAFZLER, TECHNICALLY FORMER PLANNING COMMISSION. I SERVED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FROM SEPTEMBER 16, 2025 THROUGH MARCH 16, 2026, WHEN I WAS THEN INFORMED BY INTERIM DIRECTOR JANE THAT I WAS IN VIOLATION OF CODE 2.24.030 VACANCY AND REMOVAL. I WAS DEFINITELY DISAPPOINTED.

I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR KNOWING THE CODE. I SHOULD HAVE READ THROUGH IT IN DETAIL. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE AWARE THAT THIS PROVISION WAS IN PLACE, AND THAT IT WAS INCUMBENT UPON ME TO FULFILL IT. THAT SAID, I SENT A VERY, WHAT I

THOUGHT WAS A VERY DETAILED E-MAIL, EXPLANATION OF EVENTS, AND SORT OF MY

POINT OF VIEW ON BOTH MY TIME AND THE COUNCIL, AND MY TIME DURING THE ABSENCES. I SENT THAT TO CITY STAFF, AS WELL AS PLANNING COMMISSION, AND AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL HERE. SO THAT KIND OF LAYS OUT EVERYTHING.

HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY IS SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH IT. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT. IF YOU WANT ME TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD, I'M HAPPY TO. BUT GENERALLY I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS, CROSSEXAMINATION, POINTS OF CLARIFICATION. AND I'D LOVE TO BE BACK ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF YOU GUYS WANT ME.

COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
WELL, FIRST, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND YES, CAN DEFINITELY COMMISERATE

WITH THE NEED TO KEEP ON ALL THE VARIOUS RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR ANY WIDE POSITION. MY QUESTION, SINCE YOU ARE HERE IS NOW THAT YOU KNOW THIS, AND IN READING THROUGH YOUR E-MAIL. IT DOES SOUND LIKE YOUR BUSINESS AND YOUR BUSINESS SITUATION IS A LOT. SO NOW THAT YOU KNOW THIS AND YOU KNOW THE

IMPORTANCE, AT LEAST TO ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION

TO MEET WHEN IT NEEDS TO MEET, AND THE MEETINGS, AS YOU KIND OF INDICATED IN

THE E-MAIL, ARE HALF HAZARD, BUT THEY WILL BE HALF HAZARD, AND WE ARE

EXPECTING, WHEN SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION,

THAT THERE BE A FULL BODY TO HEAR IT TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO US BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EXPERTS IN THE AREA, RIGHT? SO HAVING LIKE NOW A FULL APPRECIATION OF WHAT THE JOB ENTAILS. ARE YOU AVAILABLE, SHOULD WE DECIDE TO FIND GOOD CAUSE AND REINSTATE YOU?
HONESTLY, COUNCILMAN, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE HOW TO ANSWER THAT. I OUTLINED

IN MY E-MAIL THAT MY TRAVEL SCHEDULE FOR WORK IS SUBJECT TO A LOT OF OTHER FACTORS. I WOULD SAY IF THIS IS RELEVANT THAT FOR TWO OF THE THREE MEETINGS

THAT I MISSED, I SUBMITTED COMMENTS BOTH TO CITY STAFF AND TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WAS INSTRUCTED TO DO THAT. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS SUPPOSE TO DO WHEN I MISSED A MEETING. FIRST TIME I REACHED OUT TO CITY STAFF WITH MY COMMENTS, CONCERNS, FOLLOWING ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS. YOU KNOW, SUGGESTIONS, COMMENTS, ETC. I NEVER HEARD BACK. THE SECOND TIME WHEN I

REACHED OUT TO A FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER, THEY SENT ME BACK IN TEXT THAT I SHOULD JUST TALK TO STAFF. SO IT IS REALLY KIND OF LOST ON WHAT THAT DOES. I

THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, WHETHER I'M ON THE COUNCIL OR NOT FOR THERE TO

BE SOME SORT OF PROCEDURE OR PLAYBOOK FOR WHAT PLANNING COMMISSIONER IS

MEANT TO DO, IF THEY CAN'T ATTEND A MEETING AND PURPOSE OR EXCUSE ME, IN PERSON. BUT YEAH, TO YOUR POINT, THE CALENDAR IS HALF HAZARD. MOST OF MY TRAVEL IS LIMITED TO THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR. BUT YEAH, TO BE PERFECTLY

HONEST WITH YOU, IF I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO SELL WINE AND SUPPORT MY BUSINESS IN A HIGH WINE CONSUMING MARKET, I WILL GO DO THAT.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE HONESTY.

Agenda Item Number 3
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VICE MAYOR?
I'M GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION MAYBE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. ARE YOU ABLE

TO PRIORITIZE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS OR IS YOUR WORK GOING TO BE PRIORITIZED? I MEAN, YOU KIND OF ANSWERED THAT.

MY WORK IS PRIORITIZED. I WOULD ADD THAT BEFORE FEBRUARY, I HAD A PERFECT ATTENDANCE RECORD. I NEVER MISSED A MEETING FROM SEPTEMBER 2016 WHEN I WAS APPOINTED BY THIS COUNCIL, WALL THE WAY THROUGH THE MONTH OF JANUARY. SO IT WAS CIRCUMSTANTIAL THAT I MISSED THESE MEETINGS, ESPECIALLY THREE IN A ROW. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THE RULE. I THINK BECAUSE I SHOWED IN MY E-MAIL, I TRY TO BE

EXTREMELY COMMUNICATIVE AS TO WHERE MY WHEREABOUTS WERE, AND STILL

PARTICIPATE ON ALL AGENDA ITEMS, KEEPING UP TO DATE WITH WHAT WAS COMING

BEFORE THE COUNCIL, COMMUNICATING WITH MY FELLOW PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS. BUT YEAH, AS FAR AS THE CROOKS OF THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, I RUN A

FOUR-PERSON FAMILY BUSINESS, AND IN AN EXTREMELY CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW. SO YEAH, I HAVE TO PRIORITIZE MY FAMILY BUSINESS. IT LITERALLY PUTS FOOD ON THE TABLE.

JUST TO CLARIFY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS, THEY MEET ON THE SECOND AND THE FOURTH TUESDAYS. SO IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO CARVE THOSE OUT,

KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY ARE CANCELED OR THEY ARE NOT CANCELED. CAN YOU CARVE THOSE OUT AS A PRIORITY?
ABSOLUTELY. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THE CALENDAR STAYS CONSISTENT, WHICH WAS NOT MY EXPERIENCE FOR THE FIRST PART OF MY TENURE. YES, THEY WILL ABSOLUTELY FACTOR INTO MY TRAVEL PLANS, 100%.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE I THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS ARE THE SECOND AND FOURTH, AND IF THEY DON'T HAPPEN, THEY ARE JUST CANCELED.

SO HOW ARE THEY INCONSISTENT, IT IF THEY ARE HAPPENING THE SECOND AND THE FOURTH?
I WOULD ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE, LIKE I GOT ON THIS ON SEPTEMBER 16. THE EXTENT OF MY TRAINING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS ABOUT A 30-MINUTE ZOOM CALL WITH ANOTHER INTERIM PLANNER. A BUNCH OF MEETINGS WERE CANCELED.

WE HAD A WALK-IN MEETING. THAT WAS COOL. AND SO THEN I WAS REALLY JUST KIND

OF GETTING INTO THE FLOW OF THINGS, WHEN I DID HAVE THE ABSENCES, I FELT I

OVERCOMMUNICATED BOTH TO CITY STAFF AND TO FELLOW PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. AND DID MY BEST.

SO ONE MORE. AND I JUST WANT TO IMPRESS UPON YOU THE IDEA THAT SUBMITTING

COMMENTS IS NOT THE SAME AS BEING AT A MEETING AND ACTUALLY DIALOGUING WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY GOOD DECISIONS

GET MADE IS IN THAT DIALOGUE, LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC, LISTENING TO EACH OTHER, AND MAKING DECISIONS FROM THERE. IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO JUST SUBMIT COMMENTS.

THE FIVE-PERSON BOARD IS REALLY CRITICAL IN TERMS OF THAT DECISION MAKING.

I DON'T DISAGREE.

I WANT TO GIVE COUNCILMEMBER HINTON A CHANCE TO ASK HER QUESTION. SHE'S HAD HER HAND UP FOR A WHILE.

THANK YOU. MY FIRST QUESTION IS JUST LIKE OUR MAYOR ZOOMING IN TONIGHT. CAN YOU ZOOM IN FROM LOCATION?

YES, I WAS ADVISE THAT I COULD ATTEND VIA ZOOM, BUT I COULD NOT BE A PART OF THE COUNSELOR VOTE. [ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]

WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE ADDRESS WHERE THE COMMISSIONER IS ATTENDING REMOTELY ON THE AGENDA. WE NEED TO KNOW.

THAT WOULD BE 72 HOURS AHEAD OF TIME.

PROBABLY 96 HOURS SO WE COULD GET IT ON THE AGENDA AS LONG AS IT'S PUBLISHED.

DO YOU THINK YOU COULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT?
ABSOLUTELY.

I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION AND NOW I HAVE FORGOTTEN IT. I WILL LET YOU GUYS GO AND I WILL COME BACK.

I HAD A QUESTION. ZOOMING IN AND THAT WAS THE ONE QUESTION I HAD FOR CITY STAFF. SO WHO IS IT THAT IS PUBLISHING. JUST REMIND ME WHO IS IT THAT IS Agenda Item Number 3
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PUBLISHING THESE AGENDAS AND WHO WOULD NEED TO HAVE THIS COMMUNICATION WITH FOR 96 HOURS. I WANT TO BE CLEAR SO WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. CITY STAFF? PLANNING STAFF WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE AGENDA. THE COMMISSIONER

WOULD NEED TO LET THEM KNOW AHEAD OF TIME TO ADDRESS, LOCATION, PHONE NUMBER. WE WOULD NEED TO POST THE LOCATION WHERE THAT MEETING WILL TAKE PLACE. IT WOULD BE TO THE PLANNING STAFF.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR SEMANTICS SO WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME PAGE, WHEN MEETINGS ARE CANCELED ARE THESE ALL, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS. IS IT DONE WAY AHEAD OF TIME OR LAST MINUTE? I'M JUST WONDERING SO ALL COMMISSIONERS,

WE CAN RESPECT THEIR TIME BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE NOT BEING PAID, THEY NEED TO HAVE THEIR JOBS LIKE THE REST OF US SO WE CAN SURVIVE. WHO DECIDES WHEN THEY ARE CANCELED AND WHAT CAN NOTICE IS GIVEN?

IN MY BRIEF EXPERIENCE, THE MEETING CANCELLATION TOOK PLACE AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING. WE SAID WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A MEETING TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. TO SCHEDULE PROFESSIONAL TRAVEL, TWO WEEKS IS NOT A LOT OF HEADS UP.

I USED TO TRAVEL A LOT. I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC CONVERSATION. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ALEX.

THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE TERMINATION OF JUST CAUSE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT I WILL COME TO CHAMBERS FIRST. AGAIN A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT. SEEING THEN I GO TO ZOOM. KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE? I CAN.

THERE'S A CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE ROLE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE ROLE OF SAY A CITY COUNCILMEMBER. WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION THERE'S LESS LIKELIHOOD OF SPECIALIZED MEETINGS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY. THE SCOPE

OF THE PROCESS AND THE SCHEDULING OF THE AGENDA ITEMS IS A LITTLE MORE CONSISTENT AND PREDICTABLE. ON THE OTHER SIDE, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE

ACTUALLY PAID FOR THEIR SERVICE AND ALSO RECEIVE HEALTH BENEFITS TO THE TUNE OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS EACH YEAR. THE IDEA ABOUT BEING CRITICAL ABOUT THE

ATTENDANCE OF A PLANNING COMMISSIONER I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE AS A

COMMUNITY ALSO LOOK AT ATTENDANCE POLICIES FURTHER BODIES CONSIDERING CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION TONIGHT ABOUT ACCOMMODATIONS

AND BEING ABLE TO BE FLEXIBLE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UTILIZING TECHNOLOGY AND

THINGS LIKE ZOOM, NOTICING AND BEING CONCERNED I WOULD HOPE THAT MAYBE AS A

COMMUNITY WE COULD START HAVING SOME DIALOGUE ABOUT ATTENDANCE POLICIES FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT TOPIC TO BE DISCUSSING AND

HOPEFULLY WE CAN EXPAND THE SCOPE OF CONVERSATION ABOUT ATTENDANCE TO BE

CONSIDERING THE ATTENDANCE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY

ARE ADEQUATELY PROVIDING THE SERVICE WE ARE APPOINTING THEM TO DO WHILE THEY ARE IN THEIR TENURE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. I COME BACK TO CHAMBERS. I WILL GO BACK TO ZOOM. EVERETT CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.

CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I CAN HEAR YOU. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES I CAN SEE IT.

GO AHEAD.

MY NAME IS EVERETT FERNANDEZ SERVING AS THE CURRENT CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE SITUATION. SO I BELIEVE THAT TO

BE FAIR I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ALEX HAD MAYBE PROPERLY BEEN INSTRUCTED AND

GIVEN CORRECT INFORMATION AS FAR AS THIS IS HOW IT WORKS INSTRUCTED WITH

RULES FOR EXAMPLE THE BROWN ACT BECAUSE IF HE IS SENDING TEXT TO OTHER

COMMISSIONERS AND EXPRESSING HIS OPINION WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THAT. HE DID SEND ME AN EMAIL TELLING ME HAS SOME OPINIONS ON AN ITEM AND I

RESPONDED TO SAY YOU CAN GIVE ME THEIR OPINIONS BUT I CANNOT SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF. AS FAR AS THE PROCESS, MARY AND I WILL BE MEETING TOMORROW AND WE

ARE DEVELOPING A PACKAGE THAT CAN BE GIVEN OUT TO PLANNING COMMISSIONERS

WITH THE PROCESS AND THE RULES AND THE TRAINING AND SUPPORT WHICH IS LACKING. THE TIME THAT I HAVE SERVED WITH ALEX HE HAS BEEN A GOOD ADDITION TO Agenda Item Number 3
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THE COMMISSION. I APPRECIATE HIS VIEWPOINTS. HE'S BEEN VERY DILIGENT IN HIS RESPONSE AND RESEARCH AND SO FORTH. I PERSONALLY WOULD APPRECIATE HAVING

HIM ON THE COMMITTEE AND MAKING SURE HE IS WELL AWARE OF THE RULES AND TRAINING. I THINK AS LONG AS HE IS VERY CLEAR ON THE RULES FOR REMOTE ATTENDANCE THAT COULD CERTAINLY COVER SOME OF THE MEETINGS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS. IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS.

I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY SAY THAT AS A PLANNING COMMISSION OR MYSELF FOR

THE TOWN WHERE I LIVE I WILL SAY THAT THE LACK OF EXPLANATION ON THE ROLES AND DUTIES IS A VERY MUCH A THING OTHER TOWNS IN CALIFORNIA SHARE. I WANT TO

NOTE THAT THE CALIFORNIA LEAGUE OF CITIES DOES A YEARLY PLANNING

COMMISSIONERS ACADEMY WHICH I FOUND TO BE A SUPER HELPFUL CRASH COURSE AND THINGS LIKE THE BROWN ACT, EXPECTATIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. I WAS APPOINTED 24 HOURS BEFORE MY FIRST MEETING. I SHARE THIS SORT OF SENSIBLE WHIRLWIND OF ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS. JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THAT IS A RESOURCE AVAILABLE.

NEXT I WILL GO TO ZOOM. OLIVER CAN YOU UNMUTE?
I AM UNMUTE IT.

I THINK THIS DEFINITELY SHOULD BE REINSTATED. THE REALITY IS CALIFORNIA CITIES,

THERE IS SO MUCH BUREAUCRACY AND SO MUCH WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY CITIES AND THE BROWN ACT WITH THE STATE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. KYLE WAS INCORRECT BECAUSE STATE LAW ALREADY REGULATES COUNSELOR ATTENDANT POLICY.

EVERYTHING IS SET IN STONE AND WHERE THINGS FALL APART IS WHEN THE STONES ARE

NOT EXPLAINED TO INDIVIDUALS TRYING TO GET THEIR HANDS AROUND HOW ALL THESE COMPLEX SYSTEMS WORK. WE ARE A TINY LITTLE CITY AND WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH SO MUCH FEDERAL AND COUNTY AND STATE BUREAUCRACY. IT IS PRETTY HARD FOR EVERYBODY TO GET THEIR HEADS AROUND IT. THAT IS MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS.

SEEING THEN I GO BACK TO ZOOM IF THERE IS ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

WE ARE BACK. COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES. THROUGH THE DISCUSSION WE HEARD THE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S MEETING WITH MARY. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THIS HANDBOOK FOR GUIDANCE ABOUT THE COMMISSION. I ASK THIS GLOBALLY BECAUSE THESE CHALLENGES ARE NOT JUST WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I CAN SPEAK INDIVIDUALLY BEING ON A COMMITTEE WITH NEW CITIZENS IT IS A LOT. I THINK THERE IS DISCUSSIONS OVER GENERAL CITIZEN HANDBOOK. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. TOMORROW WHEN I'M MEETING WITH THE CHAIR

IT WAS SPECIFIC TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT WE ARE LOOKING INTO

COMMITTEE, BOARD, COMMISSION TYPE OF HANDBOOKS BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS FOR DIFFERENT COMMITTEES. THERE ARE SPECIFIC RULES FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IT'S OUR FIRST ATTEMPT TO SEE WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS AND WE DO HAVE THE CAL CITIES. IT WILL BE SIMILAR TO THE CITY COUNCIL HANDBOOK WHERE IT DISCUSSES TRAINING, REQUIREMENT, THE CODE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S A

TRACK FOR THE STANDING COMMITTEE, AD HOC COMMITTEE AND ONE SPECIFIC TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE WILL BE GENERALITIES ACROSS THE BOARD LIKE HOW MANY MEANINGS CAN YOU MISS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. DEFINITELY WORKING ON

DIFFERENT TRACKS BUT FOR TOMORROW THERE'S A LOT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WE WILL WORK ON. WE WILL WORK ON TOPICS AND TAKE IT TO THE

PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS HAVE AN

ORIENTATION AND GO THROUGH EVERYTHING AND HAVE A HANDBOOK TO KNOW WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.

THANK YOU.

THAT BRINGS UP A QUESTION THAT ONE OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ONLINE

BROUGHT UP WHICH IS IF A PLANNING COMMISSION OR EVEN US HAD TO BE ABSENT AND

WANTED TO SUBMIT COMMENTS ON AN AGENDA ITEM WHAT ARE THE RULES ABOUT THAT AND CAN WE ONLY SUBMIT THAT FOR PUBLIC RECORD LIKE A CITIZEN? Agenda Item Number 3
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THE BROWN ACT CAN -- PROHIBITS A COUNCILMEMBER, ANY MEMBER OF ANY OF OUR BOARDS FROM COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF A NOTICED MEETING. IF

SOMEONE WANTS TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON SOMETHING THEY SHOULD SEND IT TO STAFF AND STAFF WILL DO ONE OF TWO THINGS. IF THEY GET IT BEFORE THE AGENDA IS

PUBLISHED WE CAN PUT IT ON AT THE SAME TIME THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED LIKE A STAFF REPORT. THAT WAY THE PUBLIC AND COMMISSIONERS ALL GET IT AT THE SAME

TIME AVAILABLE NO MATTER WHAT TIME YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA IT IS THERE FOR YOU. IF WE GET THEM AFTER THAT WE DON'T WANT TO ADDED TO THE AGENDA AT THAT

POINT BECAUSE IF A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ALREADY LOOKED AT THE AGENDA THEY

WON'T KNOW THAT THE COMMENTS HAD BEEN ADDED SO WE WOULD DISTRIBUTE THOSE AT THE MEETING. GENERALLY THEY ARE NOT READ OUT LOUD. THEY ARE JUST THERE FOR COMMISSIONERS TO REVIEW AND IF YOU ARE NOT THERE IN PERSON YOU CAN'T. IT'S UP TO EACH COMMISSIONER WHETHER TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

YOU CAN'T VOTE BY PROXY. IF YOU ARE REMOTE YOU CAN VOTE.

YOU CANNOT SEND YOUR VOTE IN? OKAY.

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

OBVIOUSLY WE ARE STILL STRUGGLING. WITH THAT SAID, ALEX, IF YOU ARE STRUGGLING WITH YOUR FAMILY OR BUSINESS I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND. IF YOU ARE

CHOOSING TO BE ON THE BOARD I WOULD SUPPORT IT FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT ALSO FOR EFFICIENCY FOR OURSELVES AND CONTINUITY. IT IS CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDABLE TO NOT HAVE A FULL GRASP OF THE OBLIGATIONS. SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAYS, MARKET.

VICE MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT GOOD CAUSE HAS BEEN SHOWN FOR THE COMMISSIONERS ABSENCES FOR FEBRUARY 10, 24th AND MARCH 10 AND DIRECT THAT HE BE REAPPOINTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT. I HAVE NOT HAVE THAT YET.

I JUST HAD MY HAND UP ALSO. DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST?

I WAS TRYING TO LETTER BUT HE GOES BEFORE ME BUT PEOPLE WERE JUMPING AHEAD WITH MOTIONS BEFORE I HAD THE CHANCE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT PICK I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS TONIGHT. I'VE

MADE MISTAKES MYSELF AND HAD TO GO THROUGH A PREP COURSE WITH SOME OF MY FORMS SO I CAN COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND HOW IT CAN BE HARD TO FIGURE OUT.

BASED ON YOUR LETTER I FELT LIKE YOU ALREADY, YOU OBVIOUSLY WANT THE POSITION. YOU JUST GOT CONFUSED. I UNDERSTAND. I HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB ALSO.

SOMETIMES I'M A LITTLE LATE BECAUSE I FIGHT TRAFFIC. I'M DEFINITELY FOR REINSTATING AND APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE EFFORT TO WANT TO SERVE.

I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS SUPPORT. I ALSO WORK FULL-TIME AND UNDERSTANDING WHEN YOU ARE NEW TO THIS IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. I APPRECIATE THE EMAIL YOU SENT AND ALSO HELPING US UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE. I

DO HOPE WE CAN GET TO A POINT WHERE WHATEVER COMMITTEES ARE ASSOCIATED

WITH DEPARTMENTS AND I WILL LEAVE THIS TO THE CITY MANAGER, BUT FROM MY OWN

PERSPECTIVE I WILL SPEAK AND SAY I HOPE WE CAN GET TO THE POINT WHERE OUR

DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE ABLE TO HAVE THIS ORIENTATION WITH ANY OF THE

COMMISSIONS OR DIFFERENT COMMITTEES ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR DEPARTMENTS AND

GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD AND GET INTO SOME TYPE OF CADENCE SO PEOPLE DON'T

GET INTO THIS POSITION BECAUSE I'M SURE IT'S FRUSTRATING AND EMBARRASSING AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. PEOPLE THAT GET ON THESE COMMISSIONS ARE CLEARLY

PROFESSIONALS THAT WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE. I JUST WANTED TO SECOND HOW HELPFUL THE ORIENTATIONS AND DIFFERENT EDUCATIONAL OFFERINGS THEY PROVIDE. I'VE LEARNED

A LOT SO I ENCOURAGE ANYBODY WHO HAS THE OPPORTUNITY AND HIS NEW TO SUPPORT THAT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT TONIGHT. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

NO MORE COMMENTS? MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION. SO MOVED BY VICE MAYOR MAURER AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER REAPPOINT. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON. COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN.

YES.

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VICE MAYOR. MAYOR.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

I WANTED TO DO A CHECK IF ANYBODY NEEDS A BREAK BEFORE WE MOVED TO ITEM 12.

IS THAT A YES? DO WE NEED FIVE OR 10? SOMEBODY CHIME IN.

10. FIVE. SEVEN.

WE WILL BE BACK AT 8:25. [ THE MEETING IS ON A BREAK AND WILL RESUME AT 8:25 P.M.

PDT. CAPTIONER STANDING BY.]
ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK, EVERYONE. WE ARE STILL IN REGULAR DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS, NUMBER 12. CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION FOR REQUEST OF DIRECTION OF STAFF RESEARCHING CITY LOCATIONS FOR SOCCER FIELDS. THE REQUESTER IS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. IT SAYS PUBLIC WORKS AND PLANNING. I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHO IS KICKING THIS OFF FOR US.

GOOD MEANING. THIS IS THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. I WILL KICK IT OFF AND PASS IT TO A REPRESENTATIVE. IT WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND WESCO

TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL OF POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR SOCCER FIELDS WITHIN THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL. THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION THEY WILL GO THROUGH TO TALK THROUGH WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. I WILL RUN THAT FOR YOU JUST HIT ME WITH NEXT SLIDE WHEN YOU ARE READY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO MAYOR McLEWIS AND CITY COUNCIL FOR HAVING US TONIGHT. WE HAVE AN EXCITING PROJECT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT I PRESENT TO YOU. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF SO YOU HAVE SOME OF THAT BACKGROUND. MY NAME IS STEVE. I'M ON THE BOARD. I'M A RESIDENT FROM THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. A LIFELONG SOCCER PLAYER AND A 15 YEAR SOCCER COACH. I COACH THE HIGHEST LEVEL BOYS TEAM IN OUR CLUB. I'M ALSO THE DIRECTOR FOR THE APPLE CLASSIC SOCCER TOURNAMENT WHICH IS THE LARGEST IN THE NORTH BAY. WE HOST 160+ TEAMS FROM ALL AROUND NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. SO THAT IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF. I ALSO HAVE A DAY JOB JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. I'M IN INFORMATION

TECHNOLOGY EXECUTIVE FROM ONE OF THE LARGEST IN SANTA ROSA SO I HAVE A DEMANDING JOB ON TOP OF ALL THE SOCCER STUFF I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WESCO. WE HAVE A 50 YEAR HISTORY AND SEBASTOPOL. WE HAVE ABOUT 1300 MEMBERS CURRENTLY GROWING EXPONENTIALLY SINCE THE PANDEMIC. A PRETTY TOUGH TIME FOR US, BUT WE HAVE BEEN GROWING. WE HOST OVER 750 SOCCER GAMES YEAR. 500 WITH CLUBS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA. SANTA ROSA, NAPA COUNTY, MARIN COUNTY, MENDOCINO COUNTY. THOSE CLUBS COME TO US TO PLAY SOCCER GAMES. THERE'S ABOUT 500 THAT

OCCUR WHERE WE ARE BRINGING FOLKS INTO SEBASTOPOL, BRINGING COMMERCE TO THE COMMUNITY AT A SIGNIFICANT LEVEL. IT HAS NOT BEEN MEASURED BUT YOU CAN ARGUE THERE'S QUITE A FEW VISITORS THAT COME HERE. WE SERVE OVER 5000 FAMILIES WHICH INCLUDE THOSE OUT-OF-TOWNERS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. WE EMPLOY OVER 100 REFEREES PER YEAR AND WE COMANAGE FIVE DIFFERENT SCHOOL FIELDS WHERE WE

HELP WITH THE LINING OF THE FIELDS, CARE OF THE GOPHER PROBLEMS THAT WE SEE IN THE REGION AND WE ALSO CARE FOR THE REAL RANCH FIELDS AS WELL. WE MANAGE 300 VOLUNTEERS ANNUALLY. THE BUDGET AS THE CLUB, I'M THE TREASURER AS WELL, IS ABOUT $535,000 AND GROWING BECAUSE THE MEMBERSHIP PULL IS GROWING, PROGRAMS ARE GROWING SO OBVIOUSLY BUDGETARY FIGURES WILL GROW AS WELL. LET ME GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. CHALLENGES. FIELD CHALLENGES HAS BEEN THE NUMBER ONE ITEM SINCE I'VE BEEN PART OF THE CLUB. I'VE COACHED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE HAD DEDICATED SOCCER SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY. SEBASTOPOL JUST DOES NOT HAVE THAT. OBVIOUSLY THE RANCH IS A KEY COMPONENT OF WHERE WE PLAY. WE DO

WORK CLOSELY WITH THE COUNTY, LINDA HOPKINS INCLUDED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN REVAMP THOSE FIELDS BECAUSE THEY ARE IN SUCH BAD SHAPE. THAT'S A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECT THAT WILL TAKE SIGNIFICANT WORK. THAT IS COMPLEMENTARY TO WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. TONIGHT WE ARE

TALKING ABOUT ALL WHETHER PLAYING SERVICES -- SURFACES THAT CAN BE USED ALL YEAR ROUND. AT THE RANCH WE CAN'T USE IT IN THE WINTER BECAUSE IT'S CLOSED DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE NATURAL GRASS FIELDS. THEY HAVE NO PUBLIC SOCCER SPACE.

THERE'S SPACE FOR OTHER TYPES OF ATHLETICS. SWIMMING, BASEBALL, TENNIS, EVEN SKATEBOARDING BUT IT HAS NO SOCCER SPACE. WE SUPPORT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY Agenda Item Number 3
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FROM FORT ROSS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO DILLON BEACH. THAT IS BASICALLY THE POOL OF THE PLAYERS AND MEMBERS. WE OPERATE A VERY LARGE SWATH OF THE WEST COUNTY. GIVEN OUR LARGE NUMBER OF GAMES, LARGE NUMBER OF MEMBERS AND

PROGRAMS THAT WE OPERATE WE ARE REQUIRED TO GO OUT OF SEBASTOPOL TO FIND SPACE. WE OPERATE ON 17 FIELDS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA WHICH INCLUDE OCCIDENTAL,

PLACED A PLAY IN SANTA ROSA, PINER HIGH SCHOOL, LC ALLEN HIGH SCHOOL WHERE WE DO PRACTICES, GAMES AND TOURNAMENTS. NEXT SLIDE. WHAT I AM HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TONIGHT IS WHAT IS CALLED A MINI PITCH. TO EXPLAIN WHAT THIS IS THESE ARE A MODULAR TYPE UNIT THAT IS BUILT OFF-SITE AND ASSEMBLED ON SITE.

THEY COME IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT SIZES TICKET IS BASICALLY THE SAME AS A TENNIS COURT. THEY COME IN DIFFERENT SERVICES. YOU CAN HAVE HARD SURFACE GROUND OR ARTIFICIAL GRASS. THERE IS NETTING, LIGHTING VARIOUS SIZES, THESE ARE GREAT FOR

URBAN AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACE FOR A FULL-SIZE COMPLEX MIKE SEBASTOPOL. IT'S A PERFECT LOCATION. THESE ARE YEAR-ROUND FACILITIES. THERE'S L.E.D. LIGHTING DIRECTED ONTO THE SURFACE. THERE'S MULTIPLE VENDOR OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE. THESE ARE BECOMING VERY POPULAR. THEY ARE ALREADY POPULAR IN INTERNATIONAL LOCATIONS. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE PHOTOS I HAVE TO THE RIGHT. THERE IS ONE THERE CALLED THE URBAN SOCCER PARK. THERE IS ALSO THE U.S. SOCCER FOUNDATION WHICH IS ANOTHER VENDOR. IT'S A NONPROFIT THAT PROVIDES THIS TYPE OF MINI PITCH. THERE'S MULTIPLE OPTIONS. WE'VE EXPLORED SEVERAL. THE BUILD COST WHICH WESCO WOULD BE FUNDING THROUGH OUR OWN RESOURCES AS WELL AS SPONSORS AND DONATIONS IS ABOUT 150,000 TO $200,000 PER COURT DEPENDING ON THE FEATURES AND FUNCTIONS AND THE SIZE. THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE COST IS ROUGHLY $12-$15,000 PER YEAR WHICH WESCO WOULD ALSO MAINTAIN AND HANDLE UNDER OUR OWN EXPENSE BUDGET. THIS CAN BE OUTSOURCED

TO THE PROVIDERS THAT THE COURTS OR WE THINK WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO IT CHEAPER IN-HOUSE WITH OUR OWN RESOURCES AND VOLUNTEERS. THE MOST

IMPORTANT THING IS TO REMEMBER WHATEVER WE PUT IN PLACE IS PROFESSIONALLY

DONE, LOOKS BEAUTIFUL, IMPROVES THE LOCATION WE PUT IT IN SO THE COMMUNITY CAN ENJOY AND FEEL PROUD OF WHAT WE PUT IN THE SPACE. NEXT SLIDE. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT THE U.S. SOCCER FOUNDATION. THEY ARE ONE OF THE VENDORS THAT PROVIDES THESE MANY PITCHES. IT'S A NONPROFIT ASSOCIATED WITH U.S. SOCCER. THEY'VE BEEN GOING ON A SIGNIFICANT CAMPAIGN TO BUILD A LARGE NUMBER OF THESE COURTS ACROSS THE NATION. THEY HAVE BEEN PREPARING FOR THE WORLD CUP COMING THIS SUMMER. THEY HAVE A GOAL OF BUILDING 1000 OF THESE COURTS. THEY ARE LOOKING AT REALLY UNDERPRIVILEGED AREAS SPECIFICALLY

WHERE THEY CAN SECURE LARGE CORPORATE DONORS TO HELP FUND THESE SOCCER COURTS IN UNDERPRIVILEGED COMMUNITIES. LEAVE IT OR NOT IT'S AN OPTION FOR US

BECAUSE OF THE WIDE AREA THAT WE SUPPORT WE ARE CONSIDERED UNDER THEIR

DESCRIPTION AS AN UNDERPRIVILEGED AREA THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GAIN GRANT APPROVAL FROM ONE OF THEIR SPONSORS. SO THIS IS A POTENTIAL OPTION FOR US.

INTERESTING BUT IT'S TRUE. THE REASON I PUT THIS UP THERE IS SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE FINDINGS THE U.S. SOCCER FOUNDATION HAS COME UP WITH IN TERMS OF SURVEYING THE COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY PUT THE COURTS IN. ONE IS THE COMMUNITY IS MORE ACTIVE. THEY FEEL SAFER WITH THESE COURTS AND MANY PITCHES INSTALLED THEY ARE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE. IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC OFFERING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THE MINI PITCH SERVES AS A NEW COMMUNITY HUB FOR

THESE COMMUNITIES AND GENERALLY THERE IS JUST MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS

THAT GENERALLY DO NOT HAVE THE OPTION TO PLAY SOCCER THE ABILITY TO PLAY THEMSELVES WHICH THEY MAY NOT HAVE HAD OTHERWISE. NEXT SLIDE. OUR PROPOSAL REALLY IS TO BUILD A SOCCER COURT OR MINI PITCH ON CITY PROPERTY. WE WANT TO

CREATE A SAFE, ACCESSIBLE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO PLAY AND WE WANT TO MAKE IT WALKABLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN DOWNTOWN SEBASTOPOL. WE WANT TO TRANSFORM AN UNDERUTILIZED SPACE IN THE CITY. BEAUTIFY IT, MAKE IT LIKE A PARK

SETTING WHERE KIDS CAN THRIVE AND HAVE AN ENJOYABLE TIME AND ADULTS AS WELL. IT'S REALLY TIME TO DO SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY. TIMES

HAVE BEEN CHALLENGING AS OF LATE AND WE ALL WANT TO SEE SOMETHING GOOD Agenda Item Number 3
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HAPPEN. NOW IS THE TIME TO ACT. NEXT SLIDE. JUST A QUICK BEFORE YOU LEAVE THAT.

THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS GIANTS STADIUM SAN FRANCISCO.

I WANT TO INTERRUPT TO BE SURE WE ARE A 10 MINUTE TIMEFRAME. WE ARE TEETERING ON GOING OVER.

I DID NOT REALIZE I HAD 10 MINUTES. SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS STADIUM PARTNERED WITH THE COMPANY TO INSTALL COURTS RIGHT ACROSS THE BAY FROM THE STADIUM.

NEXT SLIDE. HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE?
WE ARE PRETTY MUCH AT THAT BUT GO AHEAD A COUPLE MORE MINUTES.

MY INTEREST ON THE SLIDE IS TO COMMUNICATE THE FACT THAT WESCO IS BRINGING A

FREE ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY HITTING THE SIX KEY GOALS THE CITY COUNCIL

OUTLINED AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET REFERRING TO COMMUNITY VITALITY REALLY CREATING A GOOD GATHERING SPACE FOR YOUTH. A MULTI GENERATIONAL YEAR-ROUND FACILITY FOR ATHLETICS AND SPORTING FACILITIES. AN INFRASTRUCTURE

PLACE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO CITY SPACE THAT IS POTENTIALLY NOT BEEN USED EFFECTIVELY. WE WANT TO BE SURE CITY COUNCIL IS A HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATION SO IT'S A GREAT TIME TO DO WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FOR.

LET'S BEAUTIFY THE CITY AND PUT IN SOME PARK AT TIFFANY'S AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO USE. IT ALSO IMPROVES PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S KNOWN THAT RECREATIONAL SPACES GENERALLY HAVE LOWER CRIME RATES. WE HAVE SOME

UNDERUTILIZED SPACE WHERE IF YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THOSE SPACES THAT IS NATURALLY GOING TO BE A SAFER LOCATION FOR CHILDREN TO BE AT. IT'S FINANCIALLY STABLE BECAUSE IT IS 100% FUNDED THROUGH WESCO AND OUR SPONSORS. IT'S LOW RISK AND NO CAPITOL OUTLAY FOR THE CITY AND NO OPERATIONAL COST GOING FORWARD. IT IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WESCO WAS PROVEN TO BRING A

SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OUTSIDE RESOURCES TO OUR COMMUNITY TO SPEND MONEY BUYING FOOD AND GAS, VISITING ALL OF OUR SHOPPING HERE. IT HITS THE KEY GOALS THE CITY COUNCIL OUTLINED. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A COUPLE VISUALS OF THE LOCATIONS. THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS RIGHT OUTSIDE THE BUILDING HERE NEXT TO THE YOUTH AND EX-. YOU CAN SEE WE PUT IN ABOUT TWO SOCCER COURTS ABOUT THE SIZE OF A TENNIS COURT EACH. YOU CAN SEE NO IMPACT TO THE CITY UTILITY AREA AND

ALSO PLENTY OF PARKING REMAINING FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE SOCCER COURTS TO SHARE. OF COURSE, WE WOULD PLAN AROUND ANY SORT OF COMMUNITY

CENTER EVENT THAT WOULD BE OCCURRING SHOULD NOT IMPACT PARKING THEY MAY NEED FOR THEIR EVENT. IT ALSO PROVIDES ACCESS TO THE LAGUNA BECAUSE THERE IS A

LOOK IN A PARKING SITUATION AS WELL AS ACCESS TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE FIRST IMAGE. THE SECOND LOCATION, THE ASSUMPTION IS THE PERMANENT LOCATION COULD TAKE SOME TIME TO FINALIZE PERMITTING AND GET FULL APPROVAL. THE SECOND

LOCATION IS THE SEBASTOPOL HOTEL LOCATION AS A POTENTIAL TEMPORARY LOCATION WE COULD LAND AND INSTALL ONE OF THESE SOCCER COURTS. AGAIN THESE

ARE MODULAR SO AFTER INSTALLATION WE CAN EASILY HAVE IT MOVED TO THE YOUTH

ANNEX LOCATION ONCE THE SEBASTOPOL HOTEL DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROJECT. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A WIN WIN FOR THE HOTEL PROJECT SO WE CAN

MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY WITH PUTTING IN PLACE A SOCCER COURT, MAYBE EVEN

BEFORE THE WORLD CUP HAPPENS THIS SUMMER BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A HIGH DEMAND FOR SOCCER GUARANTEED THIS YEAR.

WE ALWAYS GIVE PEOPLE 10 MINUTES SO WE ARE AT HOME IS 15 SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

I APPRECIATE THE TIME. JUST TWO MORE STATEMENTS. I AM HERE TODAY TO SEEK COUNCIL APPROVAL TO ADVANCE FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS OF THESE LOCATIONS. THAT IS REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO DECIDE ON TODAY. THE FIRST ONE BEING THE LOCATION AT

THE ANNEX AND THE SECOND BEING THE TEMPORARY LOCATION AT THE SEBASTOPOL HOTEL AND THAT IS IT. I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU. IN TERMS OF THE HOTEL LOT, WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE DO YOU NEED TO MAKE IT FEASIBLE AND YOU ARE YOU AWARE OF CEQA OR ARCHAEOLOGY STUDIES.

I AM AWARE.

HOW LONG WOULD YOU NEED TO MAKE IT WORK.

FOR US WE CAN MOVE RELATIVELY QUICK START TO FINISH IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION WOULD BE PROBABLY 4 TO 6 MONTH
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WHAT I'M THINKING IS THE END TIME. IF IT TAKES SIX MONTHS TO GET GOING AND THE HOTEL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ENDS IN JUNE 2027 IS THAT ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU? THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN A YEAR. IS THAT EVEN WORKABLE?
YES. DEFINITELY WORKABLE.

OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

YOU TALKED ABOUT LOW INCOME AND WOULD QUALIFY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE TOTAL AREA. LOOKED ON YOUR WEBSITE AND DID NOT SEE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LOW INCOME STUDENTS. HOW MANY SCHOLARSHIPS HE OR DOES THE ORGANIZATION GIVE HOW DO YOU WORK WITH LOWER INCOME KIDS WHO WANT TO PLAY SOCCER.

WE DON'T CALL THEM SCHOLARSHIPS WE DO FINANCIAL AID. WE DO PLAN APPROXIMATELY ONE FINANCIAL AID RECIPIENT PER TEAM. WE HAVE ROUGHLY 110 TEAMS.

SO ABOUT 100 KIDS PER YEAR.

THE WAY THAT THE SOCCER FOUNDATION DETERMINES ELIGIBILITY FOR A LOCATION OF NEED IS BASICALLY THROUGH FREE LUNCH PROGRAMS AT THE SCHOOL.

YOUR LAST SLIDE SET TWO YEAR DURATION BUT YOU'RE SAYING UP AND RUNNING AT THE HOTEL SIDE IN ABOUT FOUR MONTHS. WHAT DID THAT MEAN? START TO FINISH WE CAN IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT IN ABOUT 4 TO 6 MONTHS. THE

DISCUSSION WITH THE HOTEL PROJECT WAS FOR US TO MAKE IT FEASIBLE FOR US TO

SPEND THE MONEY TO INSTALL IT AT THE HOTEL SITE AND THEN MOVE IT, THE

SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MOVE THE PRODUCT WE WOULD WANT TO KEEP IT THERE FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS. THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM. OF THE HOTEL PROJECT

TAKES LONGER WE COULD STAY LONGER BUT IF WE FIND A PERMANENT LOCATION LIKE

THE ANNEX THAT COMES TO FRUITION MUCH MORE QUICKLY WE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO GO TO THE HOTEL LOCATION.

SO IF WE WERE TO AGREE TO THAT THE HOTEL WOULD BE AGREEING TO ABOUT TWO

YEARS AS WELL WHICH WOULD PUSH THEIR PERMIT OUT THAT WE JUST APPROVED TONIGHT SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE NEGOTIATION. THANKS.

I HAVE A QUESTION. IT IS NO SURPRISE TO ME. WE HAVE LESS THAN TWO SQUARE MILES IN THE CITY. I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT OTHER AREAS ARE YOU EXPLORING? IT'S NO SURPRISE THAT YOU PROBABLY SERVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN WEST COUNTY. ARE YOU EXPLORING OTHER AREAS SO AS WELL? I'M JUST CURIOUS ARE YOU LOOKING OUTSIDE THE CITY?

I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH THE GIS INDIVIDUAL FROM THE SONOMA COUNTY OFFICE EXPLORING DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES FOR LAND-USE CONVERSION. THERE IS JUST NOT MUCH HERE LOCALLY UNFORTUNATELY. THE ONLY OTHER OPTION WOULD BE PRIVATE LAND.

OKAY.

THERE IS ONE, JUST WERE QUICK TO EXPAND ON THAT. THERE'S ONE LOCATION WE

LOOKED AT WHICH WE DON'T THINK IS FEASIBLE CALLED THE BROWN PROPERTY OVER BY THE OLD -- RIGHT ON THE INTERSECTION OF 12. THERE IS SOME GREEN SPACE BACK

THERE BEHIND THE OLD HENDRIX LAWNMOWER COMPANY BACK OVER THERE, BUT IT IS

OWNED BY THE SANTA ROSA CITY UTILITY OFFICE IS OUR UNDERSTANDING SO IT'S AN UNLIKELY CANDIDATE.

MY QUESTION IS TO ALEX. I READ THE STAFF REPORT AND IT IS VERY VAGUE. MAYBE YOU DID IT ON PURPOSE. I'M ASSUMING YOU WERE CONSULTED. THE OVERALL CONTEXT

FOR MY QUESTION IS WHILE I WANT TO DO GOOD FOR MY YOUTH I WANT THE HOTEL AND THE REVENUE TO HELP THE BUDGET. IF WE WENT TO LONG AND ALLOWED THEM TO DO

SOMETHING IN THE HOTEL SPACE FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW HOW DOES THAT POSITION

US WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO APPLY AS MUCH PRESSURE AS WE CAN TO THE PEOPLE TO GET ON WITH IT AND GET THE HOTEL GOING.

THIS TYPE OF FACILITY IS NOT ALLOWED ON THAT SITE DOWN. FIRST THEY WOULD NEED TO BE SOME SORT OF ZONING CODE CHANGE TO ALLOW IT. THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS WE COULD DO THAT. CHANGING ALLOWED USES IN THE DISTRICT, CHANGING WHAT DISTRICT THE SITE IS IN, DOING AN OVERLAY TO ALLOW SOCCER AT THIS ONE SITE.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT THAT GOES ON FOR YEARS. A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT IN GENERAL IS FOR VERY LIMITED DURATIONS. WINTER, FESTIVAL,. UNDER ZONING LAWS, ONCE YOU ESTABLISH A USE IT CONTINUES. IT IS Agenda Item Number 3
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ALLOWED TO CONTINUE. WHAT THE STAFF REPORT SAYS IS IF WE CHANGE THE ZONING TO ALLOW SOCCER AS AN ALLOWED USE, OR CONDITIONALLY ALLOW A C.U.P. WE COULD CONTINUE. WE COULD COME IN AND SAY OKAY NOW YOU HAVE TO STOP ON THIS DATE.

THEY CAN DISCUSS WHETHER THAT IS SOMETHING THEY WOULD ACTUALLY DO OR NOT.

WANT TO USE IT IS ESTABLISHED IN THE ZONING LAW IT CAN CONTINUE.

SO BASICALLY IF WE ALLOW THIS TEMPORARY SOCCER THING TO HAPPEN THAT WOULD

PRECLUDE THE HOTEL OR PROVIDE AN EXCUSE FOR THEM TO NOT DO ANYTHING

BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE A JUSTIFICATION LIKE YOU PASSED THIS REVISION SO THAT PRECLUDES THE HOTEL AND NOW WE CAN JUST WALK OUT.

IT WOULD NOT PRECLUDE THEM. AS AN OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THE LEASE MIGHT EXPIRE. THEY COULD HAVE A SHORT-TERM LEASE WITH THEM AND THE LEASE COULD

AND THEY WOULD BE DOING THAT, IF THE DEVELOPER DOES NOT WANT TO MOVE

FORWARD WITH THAT SITE THEY DON'T NEED AN EXCUSE OR APPROVAL TO NOT MOVE FORWARD. THEY JUST DON'T MOVE FORWARD. I DO NOT KNOW THAT THERE IS, THAT THIS WOULD BE AN EXCUSE THEY WOULD USE. I SUPPOSE THE RISK IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE

ANYTHING ELSE GOING ON, LET'S JUST LOT LET THE SOCCER CONTINUE LONGER, INSTEAD OF EXPLORING SOME OTHER USE WE WILL JUST LET THE SOCCER CONTINUE.

SO YOU ARE SAYING IN ESSENCE IF WE EXPAND THE ZONING CHANGE WE ARE

PROVIDING MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO USE IT IN OTHER WAYS AND NOT IN THE WAY IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED.

CORRECTS.

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IF I CAN ASK THAT. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS IN THE EARLIER

ITEM WHEN WE WERE TALKING WITH PIAZZA, THEY CLEARLY STATED IT WOULD COST ABOUT $100,000 TO DEAL WITH ARCHAEOLOGICAL THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO PRESERVE WHATEVER HISTORICAL ITEMS THEY FIND. IS, ARE YOU PREPARED TO WORK

WITH THEM BECAUSE IT DID NOT SOUND LIKE THEY WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD ANYTIME SOON. THEY WERE SAYING IT COULD BE DONE WHEN THEY GET THERE ALONE.

I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE I SEE THAT COULD IMPACT EVEN THE ABILITY TO USE THAT. I'M

NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT BUT WE JUST HEARD THE COST AND THE TIMELINE AS FAR AS

THE PROPERTY OWNER SO I'M CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ALREADY IF ANYTHING HAS BEEN SUSSED OUT.

I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT PROCESS EITHER BUT I KNOW WE HAVE HAD SOME

DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD BE DISTURBING THE SOIL BY PUTTING THE COURT ON THE SURFACE THERE. OUR COURT DOES NOT REQUIRE DIGGING

PICK IT JUST REQUIRES A FOUR INCH LAYER OF AGGREGATE OR ROCK TO LEVEL THE SERVICE SO I'M NOT SURE WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE DISTURBING THE SURFACE. THAT

WOULD BE PART OF THE RESEARCH WE NEED TO GO THROUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER.

SO THE QUESTION I HAVE THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE STAFF COST YOU WOULD HAVE TO COVER. CAN I ASK A QUESTION IF PLANNING. WITH THAT IN MIND HAVE HE TALKED

TO MANY EXPERTS ABOUT THIS AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE WITH

SOCCER VERSUS IF THEY WOULD PUT THESE TEMPORARY COURTS IN THEIR HAVE HE TALKED TO ANY EXPERTS ABOUT THE DIGGING?
THANK YOU FOR ASKING. THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS GOING ON HERE. ONE IS ONE WAY TO MITIGATE ARCHAEOLOGICAL ARTIFACTS IS TO COVER THEM UP. COVERING THEM TEMPORARILY WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT. WHAT I

WANT TO MAKE CLEAR HERE TONIGHT IS THERE ARE MANY THINGS, THIS IS JUST ONE OF THEM THAT WERE GOING TO THE FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS. WE HAVE EXPANDED SOME

SIGNIFICANT STAFF TIME GETTING THIS FAR AND WE WOULD NEED TO EXPEND MORE

STAFF TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AND HAVE APPLICATIONS ROLL FORWARD. SO WHAT WE ARE DOING TONIGHT WHAT WE ARE ASKING TONIGHT IS FOR YOU TO TELL US IF WE SHOULD CONTINUE DOWN THE FEASIBILITY PATH? ARE WE RECEIVING RYAN HUNTER-REAY EMBARRASSMENT? HOW MANY HOURS -- ARE WE RECEIVING REIMBURSEMENT? HOW MANY HOURS HAVE BEEN SPENT ON THIS ALREADY?

I WOULD SAY BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WE HAVE SPENT 20+ HOURS.

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I SEE THAT AS A VIOLATION OF ESTABLISHED PROTOCOL. I CAN SPEAK PERSONALLY. THE

WAY I PHRASED THINGS IS A GENERIC REQUEST TO THE FULL COUNCIL ABOUT EXPENDING A SIGNIFICANT DEGREE OF STAFF TIME. THIS IS NOT ALL RIGHT.

I AGREE. WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF STAFF TIME ON THIS ITEM WHEN IT WAS FIRST PROPOSED. WE DID NOT THINK IT WAS GOING TO DEVELOP INTO THIS. THE MORE THAT WE GOT INTO IT THE MORE THAT ALL OF THESE SITUATIONS STARTED COMING UP. SO IT WOULD BE A REQUEST FROM WESCO TO COVER THE FEES.

MY GENERAL QUESTION, HAVE THEY AGREED TO RE-COMPENSATE FOR THE SIGNIFICANT

STAFF TIME THAT WAS APPROVED WITHOUT THE FULL BLESSING OF ALL OF US ON COUNCIL.

NOT THAT I AM AWARE.

I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN OVER THIS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO LET'S SAY WE ARE ABLE TO PUT IT IN THE HOTEL LOT. HOW MANY DAYS A WEEK DO YOU FIRST SEE THIS BEING USED HOW MANY HOURS A DAY AND HOW MANY NIGHTS.

WHAT KIND OF USAGE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT FOUR EVENINGS DURING THE WEEK. DURING THE WEEK WOULD BE MORE EVENING TIME. AFTER SCHOOL ANYWHERE FROM 4:00 TO 9:00 AT NIGHT.

HOW MANY KIDS?
ON THE SURFACE IS ROUGHLY 20 KIDS PER COURT. MAXIMUM.

SUBTOTAL.

IF THERE'S TWO COURTS THAT WOULD BE 40 KIDS. IF YOU HAVE LARGER OLDER INDIVIDUALS IT WOULD BE LESS INDIVIDUALS THERE. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE TEAM THAT IS ASSIGNED FOR THE TIME SLOT.

SO IS THIS JUST ONE TIME SLOT FOR THE EVENING? WHAT IS THE TURNOVER? TRADITIONAL TURNOVER IS ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF PER TRAINING SESSION.

PROBABLY TWO SESSIONS PER EVENING. LIKE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WE CANNOT GET ON THE FIELD UNTIL 7:00 SO WE GO FROM 7:00 TO 8:30 JUST ONE SESSION.

HAVE YOU TALKED TO SUNRIDGE ABOUT THEIR FIELD. IT IS A CHARTER SCHOOL ON LITCHFIELD HAYDEN.

THEY HAVE A PRETTY BIG FIELD.

SO IS WESCO PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE YOUTH ANNEX IDEA IF WE ARE NOT WILLING TO BLESS THE HOTEL PROPERTY FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

OUR OBJECTIVE IS REALLY BEING THE PRIMARY LOCATION WE WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN. THE HOTEL LOCATION IS MORE OF A TEMPORARY SPOT IF SECURING THE ANTICS TAKES CONSIDERABLE TIME.

ONE COMMENT. WE COULD ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT THEY AGREED TO NOT GO PAST TWO YEARS AT THE HOTEL SITE. THE POTENTIAL RISK IS WE HAVE CHANGE THE ZONING. WHAT ARE SOMEBODY ELSE SUBMITS AN APPLICATION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OTHERWISE WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

GO AHEAD.

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER HAS A QUESTION.

I DID NOT SEE HER HAND.

SO A CURVEBALL TO MY OWN TEAM. IF OTHER FIELDS BECOME AVAILABLE TO CAUSE

ANY MORE COST WITHOUT COMPENSATING STAFF, LET'S SAY WE FOUND ANOTHER SPOT

SOMETHING CAME UP, IS THERE ANYTHING VOTING FOR TONIGHT THAT WOULD ALSO ALLOW US TO PURSUE RESEARCHING ANYTHING?
IT IS HARD TO SAY WITHOUT KNOWING THE SITES. THERE ARE SITES IN THE CITY THAT

ARE ZONED AND SOMEBODY COULD COME IN WITH THE DESIGN REVIEW AND THERE'S NO

NEED FOR ZONING CHANGE OR USE PERMIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND THERE WOULD NEED TO BE STUDIES AND THERE HE WOULD JUST BE THAT. THE REASON THERE IS

DIRECTION NEEDED IS BECAUSE ONE SITE IS ON CITY PROPERTY AND THE OTHER INVOLVES A ZONING CHANGE. IF THERE'S A SITE THAT IS FOUND THAT IS FEASIBLE THAT

DOES NOT NEED A ZONING CHANGE AND IS PRIVATELY OWNED THEY WOULD JUST GO

THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS OF DESIGN REVIEW OR PERMITTED USE, OR IF THEY

NEED CONDITIONAL USE THAT WOULD BE IT AND THEY WOULD PAY THE ESTABLISHED FEE.

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I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PROCESS JUST BECAUSE THIS WAS A LOT OF HOURS EXPENDED. IT GOES BEYOND OUR PROTOCOL. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND FROM STAFF, WHO WAS DRIVING IN THIS? IF WE HAVE A COUNCILMEMBER DRIVING THIS. WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S INITIATIVE. IF WE HAVE A

COUNCILMEMBER DRIVING THIS AND WE KNOW WE ARE GOING OVER THE HOURS, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THIS WAS NOT COMMUNICATED TO ANY OF US. THERE'S A BIT OF AN IMBALANCE OR BECAUSE A COUNCILMEMBER IS. I'M JUST WONDERING FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DID WE JUST REALIZE AT THE END? HOW DID THIS HAPPEN IS WHAT IS VERY CONCERNING. I'M HOPING SOMEBODY CAN HELP ME TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THIS.

IF I CAN, AT THE COMPLICATED THING IS THE FACT THAT WHEN COUNCILMEMBER

CARTER PUT THAT AT -- PUT FORTH THAT HE DID NOT VIEW THIS AS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST HELD A SHARE I TEXTED. I HAVE ALL THE CONCERNS THE MAYOR JUST

EXPRESSED COMBINED BY THE FACT THAT THE PERSON WHO PUSH THIS FORWARD IS ON

A BOARD PAID OR UNPAID SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHECKS AND BALANCES AND

HOW IT WENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY STAFF AND NOBODY SAID THIS IS ABOVE THE ALLOCATED AMOUNT OF SIMPLE STAFF TIME TO PREPARE AN AGENDA ITEM.

I HAVE A QUESTION OF WHETHER WESCO CAME FORWARD FIRST OR COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. TYPICALLY WHEN ONE OF US WANTS TO BRING AN AGENDA AND WE CHAMPION IN OUR NAME IS ON IT. IN THIS INSTANCE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS NAME IS NOT ON IT

ANYWHERE WHICH DOESN'T SEEM TRANSPARENT AND WE WILL TACKLE NEXT OUR ETHICS. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO REALLY BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD FOR SURE. I WILL SAW AN OPPORTUNITY. IF THERE WAS CREEP WITH STAFF I APOLOGIZE BUT ALL I DID WAS SAY COULD THIS BE A THING. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OF WHETHER IT CAN BE A THING. HAVING A SOCCER COURT THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE'S IDEA WHICH CAME TO ME. THE ORIGINAL IDEA THAT I WENT ABOUT ASKING STAFF IF THIS COULD BE SOMETHING. IT'S JUST GENERAL NAIVETY, WHAT DO WE DO, HOW DO WE CHAMPION SOMETHING IF YOU WANT TO BRING A PROJECT.

I KNOW WE ALL HAVE COMMENTS. I WILL SAVE THOSE FOR LATER BUT JUST QUESTIONS BEFORE. WE DID NOT REALLY GET TO ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS AS TO HOW WE GOT TO THIS PLACE. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER BROUGHT IT FORTH AND WHAT HAPPENED? I WAS NOT AWARE OF HOW MUCH TIME. I KNOW THAT WE MET CONCEPTUALLY FOR AN HOUR OR TWO AND THEN WE MET TONIGHT FOR AN HOUR. THAT WOULD BE ON ME. I WILL TAKE THE HIT FOR NOT KNOWING HOW MUCH HOURS WERE SPENT BY STAFF. SO YES THAT WOULD FALL TO ME.

I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT RESPONSIBILITY DO WE HAVE. WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS A CONTRACTOR HOW MANY, WHAT RESPONSIBILITY DO THEY BEAR. I

APPRECIATE THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE THE HIT BUT WE HAVE DEPARTMENT MEMBERS RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING TRACK. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ASSESSED?

TYPICALLY FOR ANYTHING THAT GOES SUBSTANTIAL THAT WOULD BE RETURNED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AGAIN, IT WAS CUMULATIVE AND THAT'S WHEN I HAD A CONVERSATION TONIGHT WHEN I FOUND THE NUMBER OF HOURS BEING SPENT.

TYPICALLY WE WOULD CATCH IT IN THE BEGINNING WHEN WE MET. WE BELIEVED, MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN IT CAME FORWARD WAS CONCEPTUAL. IT GREW INTO MORE AND MORE. SO THAT COMES WITH ME.

FOR ME THERE IN LIES THE QUESTION THAT NONE OF US WERE ABLE TO WEIGH-IN ON THIS. WE ALL TALK ABOUT HOW MANY HOURS WE CAN SPEND. TO YOU WANT TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT IF EVERYBODY IS GOOD WITH THE QUESTIONS.

GO AHEAD.

THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED LOCATIONS. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT THERE'S A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT. I WILL COME TO CHAMBERS FIRST AND THEN GO OUT TO ZOOM.

I AM KENYON WEBSTER. RESIDENT OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER BOARD. WE PROVIDE ACTIVE RECREATION. CERTAINLY SUPPORT ACTIVE RECREATION. WE DO THAT OURSELVES. WE SUPPORT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE THAT. HOWEVER, WE

HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS WITH THE IDEA OF ELIMINATING BASICALLY THIS PARKING LOT. IT IS A RESOURCE FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WICHMAN HALL, CITY Agenda Item Number 3
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City Council Meeting Packet for April 21, 2026

COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND SO ON. ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT USE THE AREA. IT IS A PARTICULAR RESOURCE FOR LARGE EVENTS AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. CONCERTS,

FESTIVALS, SOMETIMES MULTI-DAY USE IN THE FESTIVAL CONTEXT WHERE SOME OF THE

VENDORS MIGHT PARK THERE FOR SEVERAL DAYS SO LOSING THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR OPERATIONS. I PROVIDED A LETTER AND AN EMAIL ABOUT THIS. BASED ON MY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WORKING FOR THE CITY I BELIEVE THERE IS A

CONFLICT WITH THE LAGUNA PARK MASTER PLAN THAT SPECIFICALLY THIS PARKING LOT THAT IS OUT THERE TO BE DEVELOPED BY THE MASTER PLAN IS RIGHT IN THEIR. IT WAS BUILT FURTHER WITH THE GRANT. I HAVE NOT RESEARCHED IT EXACTLY BUT I BELIEVE FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. I DO NOT THINK THERE WERE ANY

RESTRICTIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE GRANT, BUT THERE MAY BE PROVISIONS OR

AGREEMENTS THAT WERE MADE IN CONNECTION WITH THE GRANT THAT SHOULD BE

LOOKED AT FROM THE LEGAL PERSPECTIVE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT

REQUIRES ITS RETENTION IN THE PRESENT USE WHICH WAS DEVELOPED UNDER THE MASTER PLAN. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN WITH THE PROPOSAL. IT IS CERTAINLY NOT THAT WE PUT -- OPPOSE THIS KIND OF USE IN THE CITY. IT IS VERY COMMENDABLE ALL THE EFFORTS THAT THE SOCCER CLUB HAS UNDERTAKEN TO TRY TO ACHIEVE THIS.

THAT IS TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL GO TO ZOOM. OLIVER, CAN YOU UNMUTE? CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
THAT IS A SHAME BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY I LOVE THE GAME. WE CALL IT FOOTBALL BECAUSE I'M ENGLISH. I WAS GOING TO SAY IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE SOCCER FIELDS BEHIND THE COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT CLEARLY THAT CAN'T HAPPEN.

THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN HAVE SOCCER FIELDS WHERE THE HOTEL SITE IS. THAT'S THE BUSIEST CROSSROADS IN ALL OF SONOMA COUNTY. THERE'S A NICE GREEN SHOP ACROSS THE STREET. SO MANY THINGS THAT COULD GO WRONG. BALLS COULD FLY OVER WHATEVER FENCE THEY PUT UP BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH SOCCER.

HITTING CAR WINDSCREENS AND ALL THAT STUFF ON A VERY BUSY ROAD. IT'S JUST NOT REALLY VIABLE. IT'S A REAL SHAME BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH VACANT LAND THAT THE COUNTY HAS. IT IS INCREDIBLE TO ME THAT ALL OF THE LAND YOU DRIVE PAST FOR SALE THAT IS OWNED BY THE COUNTY COULD NOT BE USED FOR THIS. IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL FOOTPRINT FOR THESE SURFACES. FOR ME IT IS A NONSTARTER. THE LAST POINT I WANT TO MAKE THE THEME OF THE EVENING SEEMS TO BE PROCESS SCREW UPS. YET THE

PROBLEM WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION EARLIER WHERE PEOPLE DID NOT

UNDERSTAND THE RULES AND NOW IT WOULD APPEAR THIS HAS HAPPENED AGAIN TO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THESE ARE DIFFICULT TO GET THEIR HEAD AROUND. IT IS SO

EASY TO GO OFF ON A TANGENT THINKING YOU'RE MOVING AHEAD ON SOMETHING BUT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE STEPS. THAT IS JUST THE REALITY OF BUREAUCRACY.

THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL COME INTO CHAMBERS. IF THERE IS ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

I AM A RELATIVELY NEW MEMBER. THIS IS MY OWN STATEMENT SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL. I AM SURPRISED, STEVE AND PHIL, YOU DID NOT MENTION THAT THIS IS WETLANDS RESERVE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A FIELD HERE WHICH HAS MICRO PLASTICS. YES THERE'S A CATCHMENT SYSTEM BUT THEY DON'T LAST FOREVER AND MICRO PLASTICS PROBABLY DO. I HAVE THIS WRITTEN UP BASICALLY JUST THAT. ALSO, IT DOES AFFECT THE BIRDS. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FOUR NIGHTS A WEEK UNTIL 8:00 OR 9:00. IT WILL AFFECT THE WHOLE AREA. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL GO TO ZOOM. ROB, UNMUTE PLEASE.

I'M ROB PENNINGTON. SEBASTOPOL RESIDENT. ALSO A COACH FOR WESCO AND HAVE TWO BOYS WHO PLAY. I WANT TO THANK PHIL CARTER AND STEVE FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I THINK THERE IS TREMENDOUS NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE. WESCO HAS

OUTGROWN THE FIELD CAPACITY IN TOWN STARTING TO HAVE TO GO ELSEWHERE TO FIND SPACE. I JUST NEED MORE IN TOWN. THESE MANY SOCCER PITCHES ARE QUITE SMALL. THE AMOUNT OF PLAY, THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY THEY WILL GET WILL BE HUGE. COMPARABLE TO OR MORE SO THAN THE -- CONSIDERING THE NUMBER OF

PLAYERS WHO PLAY AROUND FOR WESCO AND THE OTHER SOCCER GROUPS, ADULT LEAKS, OTHERS THAT WOULD CERTAINLY USE THAT SPACE. SIMILAR SOCCER PITCHES.

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City Council Meeting Packet for April 21, 2026