Sebastopol City Council
April 21, 2026

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Kyle Falbo: continued to process numerous Public Records Act, and then, these efforts involved extensive coordination and review of records, right? So this is kind of like, this kind of narrative that this normal activity that happens within the scope of the job is excessive amounts of time.
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Kyle Falbo: You're gonna get nocert very, very quickly by staff that just doesn't want to do the work for you.
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Kyle Falbo: So, be careful about what you're doing, because I could tell you, oh, that's gonna take 5 hours, sorry, we're not gonna do it.
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Kyle Falbo: Or, oh, I… sorry, that took 4 hours,you got one hour left. But there's no real oversight. As we've seen, there's no oversight on how much time people are spending on work in this city.
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Kyle Falbo: Don't tie your hands, just because of a knee-jerk reaction, because of failed management to be able to oversight that their paid contractor was billing you for 20 hours for exploration on a council member's topic.

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Kyle Falbo: Rather, let's take a look at what happened with that particular employee and their relationship with their manager to make sure that doesn't happen again, instead of trying to tie the hands of city council members.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Kyle, for your public comment. Next, I will come back into chambers. Seeing none, I will go back out to Zoom, if there's anyone on Zoom like to make a public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed. 1128
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, thank you very much. So we're back at the dais for comments. Go ahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So… Ithink that 5 hours forone council member to move an agenda item that's their own pet project.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and not have supported the full council yet seems very excessive to me.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: especially, well, I guess I was coming from the place where youcouldn't really take even an hour of staff time, or just an hour, you know, so you really pretty much had to have whatever issue you were working on pretty well developed before you brought that to staff.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because it didn't have full support yet. 1133
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I look back on some of the things that I brought forward, and one of the things I brought forward was
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The mobile home rent stabilization. That was a very complicated issue, and I know that we had feedback from the city manager at the time, because Larry was
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: very knowledgeable about mobile home issues. It didn't have support of the council before I brought that item 1136
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to staff. So, I don't knowhowmany hours that might have taken, but it was a very complicated issue. Had a lot of support from the residents.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I want to ask the city manager, do you remember that issue, and the kind of time that that one item took? 1138
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Are you… you're talking about the amendment to the mobile home park ordinance whenthe cityattorney brought that forward, or… I brought that forward. Right, but it was through the… the former city managerorcity attorney at that time, correct? I know he certainly workedon it, yeah. I… I cannot tell you how much time he worked on it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: offhand. Okay, I'm trying to put it in perspective, in terms of…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: me as an individual council member getting that much time on an agenda that hasn't been approved by the rest of the council. So, to me, it feels almost like, there was a problem, we had a problem, and that this is a suggestion to fix that problem, but we've never had that problem in the past. 1141
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so, I… I'm… Yeah, I'm not sure I'm gonna support Having a set amount
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: way more than what I thought was even, you know, allowed before, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead. I agree, I think it's a cautionary tale. I know council members that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Probably have used more than 20 hours, and especially this proposal is
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: won't even count for two council members working on a project. I know that when I worked with the former mayor, Diana, on some of the sales tax stuff, I mean, we did a lot ofthe work ourselves, but I can't say withcertainty that we didn't exceed
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I haveno idea howmuch staff time, because we never looked at it that way.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I don't want to knee-jerk on this either, and set… it seems like we continue to set a lot of these rules in place, and there's unintended consequences.So,again,I…Idon'tagreewith whathappened. 1148
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: with a council member, I feel like he admitted and apologizedthat he didn't know, misstepped, and…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Our city manager said it wouldn't happen again, and so I… I don't feel like I want to put a policy in place that really ties our hands, and then we might have to adjust down the road, so I won't be supporting it tonight. 1150
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I have a question for our interim city manager.

Can you speak to the process change so that this doesn't happen again? 1151
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: what experience we know from the last council meeting? So, from internal controls, we have… I've spoken with all department heads, and any item that is coming forward now has to be run through 1152
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: thecity manager's office. We're going to talk about how much time is going to be involved. We will get that information up front, rather thancontinuing to goon. I do… I…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the issue… not gonnalay fault either which way, but I think one of the issues is, is that having a policy of 1154
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: not having that communication with that director of that department informing City Hall that we had that amount of hours. So that has been directed,becauseitgoes…anythingthatgoesabovean hournow. 1155
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: comes to me, and we discuss whether or not that moves forward. And so, what's the process then? I mean, because if we don't do anything, then…then…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: we're saying, you know, it could get up to 20 hours, or30 hours, or40 hours. Imean, what…what's the remedy for…to avoid what happened? I mean, if they're reporting the hours to you, but if we don't have anything that says
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, you shouldn't spend this amount of hours, then I… Imean…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, there's a couple different ways to look at it. So, number… so, one thingis to be going based upon past practice, right?If it's more than a few hours of staff time to be doing something for the City Council, we would bring that forward to the City Council. That's how we've done it inthe… you know, it's an unwritten rule that we've always adhered to.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This was an anomaly because there was different departments that were involved, and so we also weren't speaking to each other as well, so one department didn't know the amount of time that was already taken versus going to Agenda Item Number 2
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another department. So, like, planning was involved, then public works, and then building, so it was,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: conundrum. I mean, that's all I'm gonna say, like, we were not communication. We are department head meetings, we have set of protocols now for that. So for me, being able to analyze whether or not a project is going to take 1161
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, more than a couple hours, we should be able to dothat, andgive thecouncil staff time to thecouncil members. 20 hours is absorbent? I can't say the word, but that was alot of staff time to go into it, butagain, that was more about communication than it was
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And the council member who… Didn't realize what the policy was.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But we don't really have a policy. Well, we don't havepoliciesaboutours,butagain,theunwritten…thepracticesthatwe'vealwaysdonein the past, so it was… it went well beyondthat.But the internalcontrols, asfaras city staff, have been put into place. Go ahead, Councilmember Solman. 1164
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm slaying.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: a few hours.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If it's nice, I would just like… More than a few… 1167
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: is very vaint, so anything I reply before. 1168
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, I'll ask you, Mary, it's like, what do you consider more than a few?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You within an hour? Is it 2 hours? So… 3? Well, howdoyou…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, I… so what I'm gonna say is that it honestly depends on the item, because, like, I will tell you, so a couple items that have come forward.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to me, let's just take this agenda item, okay? So, I reached out, researched other cities to see how other cities do it, how much time, so that right there is about a half an hour, right? And then it was getting information, repairing the staff report and getting it out to you, that was probably another half anhour. So that is as simple as an hour of staff time.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There's been other more involved ones where we do have to do a little bit more research to be able to… we're bringing forward the Council that could take up to 3hours. And that includes a staff time review as well, soit's not, you know.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think it's going to be dependent on each individual item, so I can't say 3 hours, 4 hours, 5 hours, because it may take us a little bit longer for an item
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll give an example. I'm just going tothrowone off the top of my head. So, if a council member came to us and said, we want to re-look at the plaza, we want to see what we can do for redoing the landscaping, planning, and stuff like that, that involves two different departments. So, a councilmember can meet withtwo department heads, and there's two hours right there.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it doesn't even bring anything forward yet, right? It doesn't have the staff report or anything like that. So that would take alittle bit more where the staff would say, okay, this is the process you have to go through. It has to go through design review, it has to go through the public arts, or, I mean, through the Parks Commission, and then it comes to City Council.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that could take you up to 4 hours, where the agenda item we just did tonight was an hour. So, I think it's, you know, I think it's judgment call. So, yeah, limiting it, I think… I knowthat there's ambiguity by not having a number, but I wouldn't want to limit itto, like, 1 or2 hours, because then that's… 1178
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: ties your hands.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But then I also don't want to go again to 20 hours, so I… forme, it's… it's dependent on what the item is. 1180
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Based on that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then just leaving your staff the way it has been. And we'll always tell the public, staff knows how toworkthings.So, when I say it's going to take a few hours, it's a few hours to find that staff. We leave it atthat. 1182
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I think, and also, and I've not had a chance to talk with staff about this one yet, but, you know, putting the protocols in place formore transparency is on staff reports, similar, like, how we do for fiscal. If it goes above the normal routine of just writingthe staff report, we can also include, like, it took 1183
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 3 hours to prepare the staff report, sothat the community and the council are aware of how much time is involved. 1184
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I also think, I mean, with my name on this as well, it's also the optics of
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: pet projects and council members driving things that are for, you know, for their own… for their own personal interests, and so then it becomes that question if we don't have a policy, which, okay, we don't have a policy, but we got into this situation, so I… I just…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and…and as councilmembers, we… I mean, the city managers report tous, so in essence, we're… I mean, we have theability to push, you know.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: push the staff to do what wewant. So I just see that there's kind of, like, a strange situation there where it could very easily get into this. So that's… I mean, and that's where I was coming from. I was like, what do you mean all this time was spent on something? Especially because it was so personal, and so many different questions about that, you know? So I just want to say that publicly, that that's concerning to me. And the other question I had, just very quickly, is. 1188
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I thought that we had something in place with our formercitymanager, not… not the city manager attorney, but wasn't there somethingthat waschanged,or…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Do you know what I'm talking about? That's why I wascomingwith the3hours,becausethat'show…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I was always told that that's what it… Iwent back and could not find the policy where it stated that. It's like urban legend, it was just like… But we also didn't have protocols in place either, which we're doingnow, as far as the city council handbook and the protocols creating, so it is very clear. 1191
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Imean, we… we could… you could do… you could try for 3 hours, and, you know, we can come back and say, like. 1192
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, this works for routine items, but if you want to do something more complex,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't want any unintended consequences, and I don't want to tie people's hands, but I also don't want to be in that situation that we had again, because I just found that very disturbing, that that had been going on, especially with contractors and everyone else spending all this time on things that, you know, I mean, then Agenda Item Number 2
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we could all do that. We could all have our own personal things. I mean, I sit on boards and run nonprofits and bring… run items through and try to push it through, and as 1194
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: as theboss of, you know, one of the five bosses of the citymanager and staff, you know, and the thing is, is the staff,you know, they feel a sense of responsibility for doing that, because we as council members are requesting stuff, so it's just about, making certain that any council member that's here understands that, you know, you don't get to… you can't…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: just run things through and spend 20 hours on things. I don't know, I just…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm just a policy person, but I also don't want to have unintended consequences, so if
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zolman wants to take it out, that's fine. It just seems to me that there needs to be some sort of, like, ceiling somewhere. No, it's an appreciation of the, you know, the worth of having the discussion, so Mary did say 3, and I don't feel comfortable just not having a policy, regardless of what happened most recently. I think we need to be more aware we are still under fiscal stated declaration. I just do not think it's a good thing.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to not have a policy, so I'll… you want to go with 3? Because Mary did say 3. Well, I don't even know if 3 seems restrictive to me. It seems very restrictive. I mean, I was arguing for 5, so I… I just personally, I mean,evenif…evenifwe could get people on board to do10, it just seemed really crazy to me that 20 hours… 1199
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Were spent, and none of us were the wiser. 1200
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I, I just, gotta say that, I mean… 1201
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We have had big agenda items. 1202
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I… that take more time, and I… in… 1203
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: in 10 years of sitting up here, I've only really seen this one major abuse, so it's just, we're creating a policy Agenda Item Number 2
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that I feel confident the city manager's assured me she's handled with internal… internally, that… that it was amistake, so… 1205
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I won't be supporting a policy tonight. I don't want to sit and kind of compromise back from 5 to 3 to whatever the number is. Just seems like unintended consequencesoffone'sbad situation.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It just seems that, you know, council members are differentpeople.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And they have different styles. To me, it comes down to a matter of respecting staff's time. And… but I also understand that it's good to have a policy in place so that you know what to expect, you know the rules. So, in my mind, I thought the policy was one hour.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But, so, 5 hours just sounds like a kid in the candy store, you know? It just doesn't feel respectful.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I know we're different people, and different people need different kinds of time, but…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the way I see it is that, as a council member, I'm gonna do as much work as possible to get that agenda item 1212
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: fully developed before I bring it. 1213
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: tothestaff, or to put it on theagenda. Except for the goals. That's… for me, that's different, because if we all vote for that, then that's 5 people saying, let's get this done.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, you have to factor in thefact that it takes… it could take an hour fora staff report, right?Ormore could take an houror two for a staff report, but for one council member to get 5 hours, there's just no way I would agree with that. I would agree with, you know, if… if you can't… 1216
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: get the preparatory work, like, an hour before it goes to the staff report.If you can use anhour of staff's time before a staff report, I would agree to that if you wanted to set a policy. So it would be, like, a one hour of staff time before it gets written into a staff report.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't know how much staff time that would take, but it's just basically an hour. I personally am not supportive of that. It's just too restrictive. I just know. And also, some of us, like, I work full-time. I mean, I don't have the hours in the day, every day to research every item. I mean, Iwork literally… that's why I sit here and eat dinner, because I worked until… right up till I drove here at 5.30. 1218
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I feel like that's too restrictive, so that's why I'd went with 5. So, I mean, I'd be supportive of5 or 10, but… but not 1 or 3, in my mind. Agenda Item Number 2
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't want the unintended consequences, which means I just… andthere's… to everyone's point, there are some things that are very technical that can come forward, and then it gets complicated, and I don't think that any of us on here are…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Educated in all the areas in the city and could put in that technical time, nor should we.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's where I'm at. I'm okay with 5 or 10, but 1 to 3 just seems where you hit the unintended consequences point. 1223
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In my mind. Or we could just do none. 1224
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm fine having heard everything. The initial show, what we have put forth, what Mary had outlined, that the two of us put forth, is the 5 hours, so I'm finewith just making the motion for that and seeing where it goes. 1225
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll move that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I'll second that. 1227
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so moved by Councilmember Zollman and seconded by Mayor McLewis to approve the amendment to the City Council protocols for a definition of substantial time, which is no morethan 5 hours. 1228
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Hinton? No. 1229
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zolman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer? No. Mayor McLewis? Yes. Motion is 2 to 2, with Councilmember Zolman and Mayor McLewis in support, and Councilmember Hinton and Vice Mayor Maurer in opposition.

Motion fails.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, thank you. Now we're at, the additional public comment for any items that aren't on the agenda. Mary? Thank you, Mayor. So this is the second public comment period. If you did not make a public comment at the first, this is your opportunity to make a public comment now. If you would like to make a public comment, it is 2 minutes. Again, I will come in chambers. 1231
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go out to Zoom. Kyle, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Kyle Falbo: Thank you again for a wonderful, entertaining evening. 1233
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Kyle Falbo: Couple things that come up. First off.
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Kyle Falbo: I would love it if Council might want to consider revisiting the absentee council member policy.
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Kyle Falbo: Might be worth taking a look at and trying to come up with some sort of a policy to make sure that it doesn't happen.
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Kyle Falbo: But that's easy to abuse.
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Kyle Falbo: maybe what you were just debating a little bit, which is pretty simple, I think, whichisjust…
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Kyle Falbo: Don't abuse the system. Don't go…don't spend countlesshours on pet projects. Don't constantly advocate for a particular pet project and try to send some sort of direction that your pet project is a city priority.
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Kyle Falbo: You know, I think there's been a few examples of that, even tonight. I mean, I think the advocacy for trying to push for Palm Avenue, as being some major thoroughfare, when what we really have is
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Kyle Falbo: two major thoroughfares and a whole bunch of other actually well-traveled streets in our city, that are well beyond that. And I think that if we can look at our Agenda Item Number 2
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Kyle Falbo: selves as individual council members, that maybe we might be able to identify whether or not what we're doing is advocating for ourselves and the interests of ourselves and our neighbors, rather than the greater interests of those in the constituency that we represent.
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Kyle Falbo: That is my hope for you as a body.
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Kyle Falbo: And thanks again!
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Kyle, for your public comment. Next, I will come back into chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go back out to Zoom. If there's anyone Zoom that would like to make a public comment, please raise your hand virtually. 1252
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed for the second public period.Okay, thank you. So we're at City Council, CityStaff Reports. 1253
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We have a joint, budget committee and the Enterprise, Oversight Fund Committee meeting on Tuesday. 1254
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And Apple Blossom on Saturday. I have the tickets up at City Hall. I will give those to the mayor for the truck, and that is it. 1255
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, council members? Anyone? 1256
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I can go… oh, go ahead. CanIask for clarification about tickets?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, sorry, the parking ticket for the truck, so you have to have a pass for the truck to be in the parade, it just has the number on it. So it's not the tickets for the actual festival itself. Okay, thank you.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And council reports, do you want me to start, or do you want to start? Go ahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I attended the Gravenstein Commons open house. They had, I think it was called a roofing… a topping… a topping ceremony, and they were serving food and giving tours, and it's looking good. They've got…all the buildings are up,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And there's… was it 21 or 26 residents with a manager's room? Do you remember? Was it 21… our citymanager was there, 1261
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think it might have been 21. But they have a nice open area in the middle, courtyard, like, and they look great. I think they're… I think it's looking really good. Went to the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: zero waste meeting, and, they are trialing, a certain limited use of AI to
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Help people get answers to their questions for after, after the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: like, 9 to 5, so weekends and, after hours. And then, the Earth Day cleanup that we had planned
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Was canceled due to the muddy conditions over in the, Laguna.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: decide different percentagesfor either shelter or, services remains an ongoing Workload. Thanks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: forget his name, but from Sonoma State, the political, analyst who gave, I thought, a very,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: really interesting speech. I wish he spoke more.

We could see him talk about our political scene nationwide more often, so that was very educational. And, of course, we had our goal-setting meeting all together a week ago. So, extra meetings.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then, since then, I, of course, at the mayor's, council members' meetings, but also just the legislative, Ledge committee, we had our meeting on Friday.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: talking… there's a lot ofchanges and allthe… all the,stuffthat'shappeningrightnow in Sacramento.There'schangeseveryday,so,we didn't take any action on anything. It's just more of a wait-and-see, process for that, and that's the only thing that… update that I have, so I don't know if anyoneelse has anything. 1276
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, then I think we can call it adjourned, yeah? 1277
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, great meeting adjur, 9-14. Thank you, everyone.

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City Council Meeting - April 21, 2026
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I JUST WANT TO LET I KNOW. AND LET'S SEE, CARTER IS ABSENT THIS EVENING AND THEN, COUNCILMEMBER HINTON IS RUNNING LATE DUE TO TRAFFIC. WE CAN GET STARTED, THOUGH, BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE. SO, MAYOR, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO ROLL CALL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. [ ROLL BEING CALLED ]
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO, WE ARE GOING TO GO AND DO THE SALUTE TO THE FLAG. .

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S SEE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY REMOTE PARTICIPATION SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.

ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. IT IS DISRUPTIVE TO HAVE EVERYONE TALKING IF YOU CAN JUST DO IT QUIETLY, PLEASE. LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. WE WORK IN THE UNSEEDED PAST PRESENT GENERATIONS INCLUDING THE INDIANS OF GREAT RANCH AREAS. ALL RIGHT.

NOW IT IS TIME TO DO THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMITTEE. THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY IS PLANNING. IF, .

THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE ONE -- I WILL INTRODUCE IT. ONE OPENING ON THE

CLIMATE ACTION COMMITTEE AND OUR APPLICANT IS HERE AND IF I CAN HAVE YOU

COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND THE COUNCIL WILL ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN WE WILL

CLOSEOUT THE INTERVIEW AND THEN GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM THAT IS THE APPOINTMENT.

WELCOME THIS EVENING. SO, WHAT WE USUALLY DO IS GIVE THE CANDIDATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY. JUST, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF MINUTES AT THE MOST. WE EACH HAVE QUESTIONS AND WE WILL GO ON FROM THERE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY THAT IS OKAY AS WELL.

YES, DEFINITELY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I WILL INTRODUCE MYSELF. KIND OF FREE, FREESTYLE. I AM MARK RISARI. I LIVED IN SEBASTOPOL FOR ALMOST A YEAR. APPLYING TO BE PART OF THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMITTEE. EVERY CITY THAT I LIVED IN FOR CALIFORNIA, I VOLUNTEERED AND ENGAGE IN COMMUNITY SERVICE AND TRY TO GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

CURRENTLY I DO LIVE CLOSER TO GREY, I AM A COUNSELOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF

REHABILITATION AND I ASSIST PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS AND DIAGNOSES SEEK EMPLOYMENT AND BOTTOM CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.

THAT IS MY BACKGROUND AND IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. WE ARE BACK HERE AT THE DAIS ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS.

COUNSEL MEMBER ZOLLMAN?
-- COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN.

IF THERE IS DISAGREEMENT AMONG THE BODY, WHAT IS YOUR WAY OF WORKING THROUGH DISAGREEMENTS?
DEFINITELY. THANK YOU. DISAGREEMENTS. I WORK IN MENTAL HEALTH SO DISAGREEMENTS HAPPEN ALL OF THE TIME. NO, HOW I WORK THROUGH DISAGREEMENTS

IN A BODY, GOVERNING BODY IS TO HEAR EVERYONE'S PERSPECTIVE AND UNDERSTAND THEIR POINTS OF VIEW OBJECTIVELY AND DETACHED EMOTIONALLY. AND KIND OF, GIVE MY FEEDBACK. EVERYONE WILL FEEL A CERTAIN WAY ABOUT AN ISSUE OR A MATTER.

SO, I WOULD -- I BUILD BRIDGES AND COME TO A COMPROMISE AND AN AGREEMENT OR SOME KIND OF UNDERSTANDING OR AWARENESS. THAT IS HOW I TRY TO HANDLE THAT.

THAT SITUATION. DEFINITELY BUILDING A RAPPORT WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE GROUP AS WELL. JUST TRYING TO HAVE THE SPIRIT OF TEAM WORK AND COLLABORATION.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR.

IN YOUR -- I GUESS THAT IS WHAT IS THAT THE YOUR SORRY -- THE WORD IS BLANKING, YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO MITIGATE THE EFFECT OF CLIMATE CHANGE ON SEBASTOPOL.

YOU WANTED TO PROTECT THE WILDLIFE, NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, MITIGATE TRAFFIC, AND GENERATE REVENUE FOR CLIMATE ACTION AWARENESS. CAN YOU EXPAND ON THOSE IDEAS?
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YEAH, DEFINITELY. DEFINITELY. I WILL TRY TO REMEMBER ALL OF THEM AND GIVE MY TWO CENTS ON ALL OF THOSE MATTERS. SO, MY BACKGROUND IS I GREW UP IN

OAKGROVE, CALIFORNIA, IT IS RURAL, STILL IS, WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER IT DOUBLED IN SIZE. IT IS A HOT AREA FOR BAY AREA RESIDENTS AS WELL TO LIVE. SO I VIDEO SEEN THE EFFECTS OF A GROWING CITY. EASTERN SEBASTOPOL IT IS MORE RURAL. IT WOULD NOT

GROW TO THAT EXTENT BUT I HAVE SEEN THE IMPACT THAT MORE POPULATION AND PEOPLE COMING INTO A CITY BRINGS AND THE GOOD AND THE BAD. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO

KIND OF MITIGATE AND CLIMATE CHANGE IT IS AN ISSUE THAT EVERY CALIFORNIA CITY WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND EVERY STATE IN THE COUNTRY. SO, I WOULD DEFINITELY

TRY TO KEEP IN MIND THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE HAVE TO DO

BUSINESS AS WELL, JUST TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW ALL OF THOSE MATTERS KIND OF INTERRELATE AND COME INTO PLAY. BUT DEFINITELY KEEPING THE CITY CLEAN AND

TRASH OFF OF THE HIGHWAYS AND PARKING LOTS, THAT WOULD BE A NUMBER ONE ISSUE. SO, YES, THAT IS WHAT I CAN -- I COULD ELABORATE MORE BUT THAT IS WHAT I HAVE AT THE MOMENT. THANK YOU.

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ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

YOU ANSWERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD. BUT, I JUST HAVE A BASIC QUESTION JUST BECAUSE IT CAME UP AT A PREVIOUS MEETING. YOU ARE AWARE OF

WHEN THE MEETINGS ARE AND YOU ARE ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETINGS AND ALL OF THAT?
YES.

YES, THANK YOU. I DO AND MY SUPERVISOR IS FLEXIBLE SO I WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEND EVERY MEETING, MONTHLY MEETINGS.

GOT IT. I JUST WANTED TO -- OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO, LET ME JUST TURN MY PAGE HERE. WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO, THIS MEETING, THANK YOU

VERY MUCH FOR GIVING US YOUR TIME AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE SECOND STAGE IN THIS PROCESS HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

SO, THIS -- I WILL MOVE ON TO THE ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR THE AGENDA. THAT IS

CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO THIS OPENING AND I JUST WANT TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

OKAY. NOW, PUBLIC COMMENT. IT IS A TWO-MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, I DO CHAMBERS FIRST AND THEN ZOOM. ANYONE ON ZOOM OR IN THE CHAMBERS? SEEING NONE, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE INTERVIEW. SEEING NONE.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

YES, I AM DELIGHTED. I KNOW MANCHT I MET HIM AT THE MAYOR'S DISABILITY

BREAKFAST MANY, MANY MONTHS AGO AND I FOUND OUT HOW HE WAS EMPLOYED AND WORKS WITH YOUTH. WE HAD PLENTY OF COFFEE AND I AM HAPPY HE APPLIED. AS FAR

AS HIS EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND AND DEDICATION TO THE AREA THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ON THIS BODY, I THINK IT IS GREAT. AND IN ADDITION TO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND PROFESSIONAL STANDING AND COMMITMENT. I FIND ANYONE WHO IS BELOW THE AGE OF 50 OOH PLYING FOR ANY OF OUR POSITIONS SO I AM DELIGHTED. YES, I WOULD BE

SUPPORTIVE OF HIS APPLICATION AND ENTERTAINING MOTIONS I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY. OKAY, SO WHAT WE NEED IS A MOTION.

I WOULD BE DELIGHTED TO MOVE MARK'S APPLICATION TO BE ON THE CLICK AT ACTION BODY.

I WILL SECOND THAT.

OKAY. MARY?

SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN AND MAURER, TO APPOINT MARK TO THE APPOINT ACTION COMMITTEE. COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
I WILL ABSTAIN I WAS NOT PRESENT. [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] THE MOTION PASSES 3-1-1.

HINTON ABSTAINING AND CARTER ABSENT.

OKAY. MOVING RIGHT ALONG HERE THIS YEAR BEING MAYOR I LIKE US TO REMEMBER HISTORY IN SEBASTOPOL. GIVEN THAT WE HAVE THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL COMING Agenda Item Number 2
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UP, I HAVE A LITTLE BLURB I HAVE HERE AND I CONNECTED ASKING HER IF SHE HAD

THOUGHTS OR MEMORIES SINCE SHE OVERSAW THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL FOR SO LONG. I WILL READ IT AND WE HAVE PICTURES, MARY, SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND PASS THAT ONE. OR, I WILL READ THAT. I WILL READ THAT. IT WAS SENT TO ME IT IS A POSTCARD THAT WAS OUT THERE ABOUT SEBASTOPOL. HOME OF THE APPLE IS ON PARADE FOR THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL AND TOURS AROUND EASTER TIME.

AGRICULTURE AND CULTURAL ACTIVITIES, SOUTHERN GATEWAY AND RECREATIONAL AREA AND THE BLUE PACIFIC COASTLINE. THEN, JUST, FOR AS FAR AS SOME OTHER HISTORY ABOUT THE FESTIVAL. WHAT SHE HAS LEARNED FOR MANY YEARS AT THE

CHAMBER AND ROLL IN THE SEBASTOPOL HISTORICAL SOCIETY, WHO I WORK WITH FOR

THESE HISTORIC MOMENTS IS THE APPLE BLOSSOM IS RICH IN HISTORY BACK TO THE

DAYS OF THE PARADE THAT RAN IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE CURRENT PARADE THAT IS A TRIED AND TRUE FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE TRAIN DOWN MAIN, THE PEOPLE

AND THE PLACES THAT HAVE EVOLVED OVER THE YEARS IT IS A TRUE REMINDER OF THE

SPECIAL COMMUNITY IN WHICH WE LIVE, A SMALL SOPHISTICATED TOWN FILLED WITH

TRADITION CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD AS A REMINDER OF WHO WE WERE, WHO WE ARE, AND WHO WE WILL HOPE TO BE FOR YEARS FROM NOW. IT REMAINS AS A HUGE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND EVOLVING TO FIT THE TIMES. THEN, I DON'T KNOW, I WAS NOT PAYING ATTENTION, WERE YOU ABLE TO GET THE PICTURES UP? THEY WORKED? SHE SENT ME HISTORICAL PICTURES, SOME OF THEM WERE PRETTY OLD. SO, ANY WAYS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT AND NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. DO YOU KNOW?
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YES, THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION PRESENTED TO LEA GOODE-HARRIS. THIS

IS PRESENTED IN HEART-FELT RECOGNITION AND DEEP GRATITUDE FOR YOUR VISIONARY

LEADERSHIP, YOUR CREATIVE SPIRIT, AND DEDICATED SERVICE IN RESTORING THE LABRINTH OF LIFE MEMORIAL TO THE SEBASTOPOL COMMUNITY. THROUGH YOUR

SERVICE YOU BROUGHT INTO BEING A RENEWED, SACRED AND CONTEMPTLATIVE SPACE,

REMEMBERING YOUNG LIVES LOST TOO SOON AND HEALING FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS NOW AND GENERATIONS TO COME. DEEP APPRECIATION FOR YOUR GIFT OF

TIME, HEART, VISION AND FOR THE LASTING LEGACY YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES.

SO YOU CAN COME UP IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHAKE YOUR HAND. IF YOU WOULD LIKE WE CAN TAKE A PICTURE.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO -- OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK WEBSTER WHO WAS REALLY VERY, VERY HELPFUL AS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE SEBASTOPOL COMMUNITY CENTER AND HELPING LEA GET IT DONE.

THANK YOU, KENNY, YOU, TOO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE COULD NOT DO IT WITHOUT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

I WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING. THE LABRINTH IS RIGHT OVER THERE BY THE BALL FIELD. LEA LED A FULL ALL DAY LONG GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS TO BUILD THIS. YEAH, THANK YOU.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT THING I NEED TO DO IS JUST SEE IF ANYONE HAS STATEMENTS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ANYTHING? NO? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ONE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT I HAVE IS THAT WE WILL BE POSTPONING ITEM NUMBER 10, FOR ANYONE WHO IS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 10 THAT WILL BE POSTPONED TO MAY FIFTH AT OR AFTER 6:00 P.M. HERE AT THE ANNEX AND THE STAFF MEMBER IS NOT HERE THIS EVENING. I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THAT ITEM IT IS POSTPONED TO MAY 5th. YES.

I HAVE A QUESTION. I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THE RESTAURANT PROBABLY WITHIN 500 FEET, DOES THAT MATTER? I DON'T KNOW IF IT MATTERS OR NOT.

IT DOES. YES.

I MEASURED IT OUT. I AM PRETTY SURE IT IS WITHIN 500 FEET YES, A CONFLICT DUE TO THE PROXIMITY.

OKAY. WHAT SHOULD I DO?
EXCUSE YOURSELF FOR THIS.

DO I NEED TO LEAVE THE ROOM?
YES.

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OH, OKAY. HOW WILL I KNOW WHETHER IT COME BACK?
WE WILL COME FIND YOU. WE WILL HAVE SOMEONE COME FIND YOU OUTSIDE.

OKAY. YOU DON'T NEED TO LEAVE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND ALL OF THAT FIRST.

OKAY.

DID YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD -- NO IT IS OKAY. NO WORRIES.

I JUST DID NOT WANT THE VICE MAYOR TO LEAVE WITH THE OTHER ITEMS, THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT, THIS IS OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THIS IS FOR ITEMS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. TWO MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AGAIN, COME WITH CHAMBERS FIRST AND THEN OUT TO ZOOM. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT NOT ON THE AGENDA, COME UP TO THE PODIUM. IS THERE A QUESTION? SO, THAT WILL BE THE PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE WHEN THAT ITEM COMES UP. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANY STREETS, THE ITEM BROUGHT FORWARD FROM STAFF IS

WHAT THE STREETS ARE BUT YOU CAN, DURING YOUR COMMENT MENTION ANY STREET, CORRECT. OKAY. THERESE?
HI, THANK YOU, HAPPY TO BE HERE. THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR BRINGING OUR HISTORY ALIVE EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS. IT IS REALLY WONDERFUL. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF HISTORIC MUSEUM TONIGHT. I AM HERE TO INVITE YOU TO A COUPLE OF EVENTS THAT WE HAVE COMING UP. THIS SUNDAY, THE WEST COUNTY MUSEUM WILL OPEN UP THE

LATEST EXHIBIT WHICH IS BASKETFUL OF HISTORY, IT IS A DISPLAY OF ALL TYPES OF DIFFERENT MARKETS THAT SOME OF YOU NEVER HEARD ABOUT. MR. CHANY'S MARKET? GOOD FOR YOU. SO, ANY WAY, A GREAT EXHIBIT DONE BY PLARY DOGEN. THAT WILL BE MARY DODGEN. THAT WILL OPEN ON SUNDAY AFTER THE FESTIVAL. THE SECOND ONE,

THE FARM, OFF OF THE HIGHWAY, IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE BEFORE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ENJOY OUR OPEN HOUSE. WE HAVE A PLANT SALE. AND

THERE WILL BE ALL KINDS OF KID'S ACTIVITIES, FRUIT TREES, WE HAVE A GREAT ASSORTMENT OF NURSERY. WE HAVE A NURSERY THERE ON REGULAR OCCASION TO GO UP AND PURCHASE THINGS ON THE HONOR SYSTEM. AND OUR NURSERY SALES HAVE BEEN INCREASING AND IMPROVING DAILY. ALSO GOING TO BE A CRAFT SALE. IT IS A FAMILY-FRIENDLY FREE EVENT. THERE WILL BE HISTORIC TOURS AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE

NOT BEEN TO THE FARM YET, IT IS A GREAT TIME FOR TOY COME UP AND ENJOY THE FARM AND THE ACTIVITIES AND THAT IS MAY 3rd. IT IS A SUNDAY. FROM 11:00 -- 10:00 TO 3:00. THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. THANKS AGAIN FOR KEEPING US ALIVE. TAKE CARE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT OUT TO ZOOM IF THERE IS ANYONE ON

ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AN ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA, RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE I WILL GO BACK INTO CHAMBERS,

ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S SEE HERE. SO, ONCE AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS POSTPONED. AND NOW WE ARE GOING ON TO CONSENT CALENDAR. AND I AM GOING TO READ THROUGH ALL OF THESE ITEMS, FIRST. SO LET'S GET STARTED HERE. NUMBER 3, APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF APRIL 7th, 2026. NUMBER 4, APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FOR CLOSED SESSION MEETING OF APRIL 13, 2026. APPROVE AND ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF -- NUMBER 5, THE RESOLUTION OF NBS IN PREPARATION OF THE ANNUAL FISCAL YEAR OF 2026-'27, LIGHTING ASSESSMENT DISTRICT IN ACCORDING OF PRO VISIONS OF THE LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING ACT OF 1972, HENCEFORTH THE ACT OF HIGHWAYS CODE. NUMBER 6, TASK ORD8 WITH GHD INC FOR

PREPARATION OF THE SEWER SYSTEM MASTER PLAN UPDATE FOR THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $132, 634. RFP, FOR THE MASTER PLAN UPDATE WAS RELEASED ON 12/15/26 AND

TWO PROPOSALS WERE RECEIVED AND GHD WAS THE SELECTED BY STAFF MOST QUALIFIED TO WORK. NUMBER 7, RECEIPT OF APPROVAL OF SEBASTOPOL SOLID WASTE

COLLECTION SERVICES, ANNUAL RATE ADJUSTMENT FOR SONOM ACCOUNTY RESOURCES RECOVERY LLC. THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED TO REQUIRED FOR ANY INCREASE OVER 6% OR FOR ANY EXTRAORDINARY RATE ADJUSTMENT. THE CITY MANAGER PLAY

APPROVE SMALLER ADJUSTMENTS OR REFER THEM TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT THEIR

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BEING PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AT A PUBLIC MEETING SO

RESIDENTS ARE INFORMED FOR THE PROPOSED RATE ADJUSTMENTS, THE PROPOSED RATE ADJUSTMENT IS 3.82%. NUMBER 8. APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION

AUTHORIZING THE INTRIM CITY MANAGER TO SIGN EASEMENT AND RELATED DOCUMENTS PERTAINING TO THE AMERICORPS TRAIL PROJECT. ANYONE WANT TO PULL ANYTHING OFF?
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THERE IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR, ITEMS ONLY, 3-8. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, CHAMBERS FIRST. SEEING NONE, GOING TO ZOOM.

KYLE CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF. AND CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER? YES, I CAN. IT IS FOR THE AUDIENCE WHO ARE ABOUT TO WITNESS THE WAY THAT OUR CONSENT CALENDAR GETS APPROVED AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. HISTORICALLY WE

HAVE HAD SOME FINANCIAL PROBLEMS THAT RESULTED IN A LARGE NUMBER OF

REVENUE-GENERATING PRACTICES THAT PRIMARILY FALL ON THE RESIDENTS, NAMELY SALES TAX MEASURES, INCREASES TO PROPERTY TAX, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, AS A

RESULT OF THAT, OUR COUNCIL HISTORICALLY HAS DECIDED TO NOT PUT LARGE TICKET FINANCIAL ITEMS ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. AND, SO, ANYTHING THAT WAS

REQUIRING A LARGE AMOUNT OF COST WOULD NOT BE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM. TONIGHT WE SEE THAT PRACTICE IS GONE AWAY. WE ARE LOOKING AT A FISCAL COST OF OVER $100,000 THAT IS SITTING ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR TONIGHT. FOLLOWING MY PUBLIC COMMENT AS LONG AS THERE IS NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE. YOU WILL QUICKLY SEE ONE OF OUR

COUNCILMEMBERS MOVE TO APPROVE ANOTHER COUNCILMEMBER WILL SECOND THAT

AND THEY WILL IMMEDIATELY GO TO VOTE AND CONSENT, APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR, INCREASING THE COST TO OUR BUDGET OF $100,000 IN A SWOOP ON AN ITEM

NOT DISCUSSED BY COUNCILMEMBERS, NOT BEING DISCUSSED BY CITY STAFF, NOT

BEING DISCUSSED IN LARGE PART THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. SO, THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT WE ARE NOW IN. WHERE LARGE SCALE

APPROVALS OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ARE NOW JUST SITTING ON A

CONSENT CALENDAR AS A RESULT OF A FAILED RFP, ONLY ONE PROPOSAL WAS GIVEN TO

A CONTRACTOR WHO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR YEARS WITH ENGINEERING WITHOUT ANY COMPETITION. AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT PRACTICE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, KYLE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL COME INTO CHAMBERS.

SEEING NONE, I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. ANYONE MAKING A PUBLIC COMMENT ON CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONLY, SEEING NONE, CONSENT CALENDAR IS CLOSED.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD COUNCILMEMBER.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THAT PUBLIC COMMENT RAISES AN INTERESTING QUESTION. SO I WILL TURN TO OUR INTERIM GENERAL MANAGER. THAT HAS BEEN OUR

POLICY AS LONG AS I REMEMBER, WE DON'T PUT DOLLAR AMOUNTS EXPENDITURES ON CONSENT CALENDAR. SO, IS THAT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? I DID READ IT.

WE PUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WHEN THEY ARE NOT VETTED OR APPROVED IN THE BUDGET. THESE ARE ITEMS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET. SO THEY ARE NOT NEW EXPENDITURES, IT HAS BEEN APPROVED IN THE FISCAL BUDGET.

THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT. USUALLY, MY RECOLLECTION IS WE HIGHLIGHT THAT SOMEWHERE ON HERE THE FACT THAT IT IS NOT A NEW EXPENDITURE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ALLOTTED MONEY FOR. SO, THAT IS .

IT DOES SAY IT IS ALLOCATED IN THE CIP BUDGET.

RIGHT HERE. IT DOES. FUNDING -- THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL FISCAL IMPACT.

THAT IS WHAT I REMEMBER, TOO, THE PUBLIC COMMENTER MADE ME THINK. THOUGHT I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION ANY WAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER -- WE ARE FINISHED. OKAY. WE JUST NEED A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE AT THE SAME PLACE. ALL RIGHT, ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?
GO AHEAD.

I WILL MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

I WILL SECOND IT.

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THANK YOU, SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAM AND MAYOR, FOR 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] .

Agenda Item Number 2
THE MOTION PASSES, 4-1 WITH COUNCILMEMBERS HINT ON, MAYOR IN SUPPORT AND CARTER ABSENT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO LET'S SEE, WE HAVE NO INFORMATIONAL ITEMS THIS EVENING. SO, WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARING. DID YOU HAVE, WERE YOU MOTIONING IT SO, NO. YES. WE ARE MOVING ON TO NUMBER 9. PUBLIC HEARING APPEAL OF ALCOHOL USE PERMIT FOR 8050BODEGA AVENUE. THIS IS AN APPEAL OF STAFF

DETERMINATION OF ALLOWED USE OF A RESTAURANT AT THE SITE AND THE PLANNING

COMMISSION APPROVAL OF AN ALCOHOL USE PERMIT FOR ON-SITE BEER AND WINE SALES. AND, IS PLANNING HERE?
GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS ITEM IS BEFORE THE CITY

COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL OF AN ALCOHOL USE PERPILOT TO ALLOW

ALCOHOL LICENSE, BEER AND WINE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESTAURANT AS PART OF A NEW RESTAURANT AT THE EXISTING RESTAURANT LOCATION AT 8050BODEGA AVENUE. THE PROPOSED NEW RESTAURANT INTENDS TO OCCUPY THE SPACE WHERE THE GRILL WAS MOST RECENTLY PREVIOUSLY MARDY'S TOP OF THE HILL. AND IT IS PROPOSING TO OPERATE WITHOUT CHANGES TO THE STRUCTURE OR TO THE SITE PLAN.

THE APPEAL INCLUDES STAFF'S NOVEMBER 2025 ACTION DETERMINING THAT A NEW RESTAURANT AT THIS LOCATION IS A PERMITTED USE. THAT NO FURTHER PLANNING

REVIEW OR ADDITIONAL PARKING TO CONTINUE THE RESTAURANT USE WOULD BE REQUIRED. THAT ALCOHOL SALES WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL OF THE USE PERMIT.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THE APPEAL AND REAFFIRM

STAFF'S DETERMINATION THAT CONTINUING THE RESTAURANT USE AT THIS LOCATION DOES NOT REQUIRE A USE PERMIT OR REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PARKING. STAFF REQUESTS

THAT YOU UPHOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S APPROVAL OF ALCOHOL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW TYPE 41 HERE. BY WAY OF BACKGROUND IN NOVEMBER OF 2025, THE

APPLICANT CAME INTO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE ABOUT THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR OPENING A RESTAURANT AT THIS LOCATION. WE INFORMED THE APPLICANT THAT THE RESTAURANT IS A PERMITTED USE HERE. BUT SALES OF ALCOHOL WOULD REQUIRE A USE PERMIT. STAFF ALSO INFORMED THE APPLICANT THAT

CHANGES TO THE SITE OR EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL REVIEW, DESIGN REVIEW, THE APPLICANT INDICATED NO CHANGES WERE PROPOSED. IN

FEBRUARY, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR ALCOHOL USE PERMIT, FEBRUARY 2nd AND ON FEBRUARY 24th, THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER AND APPROVE THAT ALCOHOL USE PERMIT. ON MARCH 2nd, THE APPLICANT OR THE APPELLANT SUBMITTED AN APPEAL FOR THE DECISION PARKING AND ERROR OR ABUSE OF DISCRETION BY STAFF. HE SUBMITTED PRIVATE EAVESMENTS, AND THE CITY IS NOT A PARTY TO. NO PERMITS ARE NEEDED TO OPERATE. HOWEVER, ALCOHOL SERVED ON THIS PREP SIS REQUIRES THAT USE PERMIT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY. SEBASTOPOL MUNICIPAL CODE, CHAPTERRER 17.160, ALLOWS ESTABLISHED FACILITY THAT DO NOT

COMPLY WITHSTANDARDS, PARKING OR SETBACKS TO CONTINUE TO BE USED WITHOUT

COMPLYING WITH THE CURRENT STANDARDS AS LONG AS THERE ARE NOT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO. IF WE REQUIRED

EVERY NEW USE THAT COMES INTO AN EXISTING BUILDING TO REAFFIRM THAT THEY

COMPLY WITH ALL PARKING AND SO ON, MOST OF THE DOWNTOWN WOULD BE EMPTY BECAUSE THAT IS JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO. THOSE PROVISIONS APPLY TO NEW USES NOT EXISTING USES UNLESS THERE IS A CHANGE. IN THIS CASE THERE IS NO CHANGE. AS NOTED, EARLIER, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THREE PRIVATE RECORDED

EASMENTS TO SUPPORT HIS POSITION THAT PLANNING STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION ERRORRED. THE CITY IS NOT A PARTY TO ANY OF THE PRIVATE EASEMENTS, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT. IF THE APPELLANT WANTS TO

ENFORCE THEM THAT WOULD BE A CIVIL ACTION BETWEEN THE PARTIES, THE CITY IS NOT A PARTY TO THOSE AND WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED. THE STAFF REPORT I LIST THE ALLEGATIONS OF THE APPEALS AND FINDINGS FOR DENIAL. AGAIN, WE ARE

RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THE APPEAL UPHOLDING THE DECISIONS Agenda Item Number 2
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OF STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THAT IS MY STAFF REPORT. THE APPELLANT Agenda Item Number 2
IS ON ZOOM AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND, THE APPELLANT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT. WE HAVE A LIMIT OF FIVE MINUTES, IS IT RICARDO OLIVEIRA.

YES. DO YOU HEAR ME NOW?
YES. IS IT POSSIBLE TO TURN ON THE VIDEO FOR RICARDO PLEASE? THERE GO OUT.

OKAY. GREAT. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
YES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HEARD. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

OKAY. GOOD. I THOUGHT IT WAS LESS. I WILL GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS RICARDO OLIVEIRA. TONIGHT I AM ASKING TO OVERTURN THE FINDING AND REQUIRE INITIAL STUDY BEFORE THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD. THE CLASS 1 EXCEPTION UNDER SECTION ONE 5301 APPLIES ONLY WHERE THERE ARE NO UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CAN RESULT IN A SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECT. THIS PROJECT FAILS IN THAT TEST.

THE PROJECT REQUIRES 51 PARKING SPACES UNDER THE PLANNING CODE. THE SITE HAS A DRAMATIC DEFICIT IN SUCH PARKING. THIS DEFICIT WAS CREATED BY THREE

SUCCESSIVE LEGAL EVENTS RECORDED WITH THE COUNTY DURING THE LIFE OF THE PRIOR RESTAURANT USE, 1986 PARKING EASEMENT, A LOCK DIVISION THAT SOLD OFF A PORTION OF THE SITE, AND A 2018 PARKING EASEMENT, EACH EVENT REDUCED THE AVAILABLE PARKING. CRITICALLY IN 2018, SEBASTOPOL PLANNER STATED THE PARKING REDUCTION AT THE SITE NEEDED TO BE REVIEWED AND ADDRESSED. THAT REVIEW NEVER HAPPENED. AND NOW THAT SAME UNREVIEWED FLAGGED CONDITION IS BEING USED AS A BASELINE TO JUSTIFY SKIPPING ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW ENTIRELY. UNDER THE GUIDELINES SECTION 15300.2C, A EXCEPTION CAN NOT BE USED WHEN THERE IS A

POSSIBILITY OF A SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECT DUE TO UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES. BASED ON THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURTS BERKELEY HILLSIDE

DECISION WHERE UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST THE RECREW MUST BE CONDUCTED

IF THERE IS EVEN A FAIR ARGUMENT THAT SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS MAY RESULT. THE FACTS THAT I STATED FOR THIS PROJECT CLEARLY CONSTITUTE UNUSUAL

CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE PARKING DEFICIT, MORE THAN SATISFIES THE FAIR ARGUMENT STANDARD. THE SECTION 15301 EXCEPTION DOES NOT APPLY HERE. I URGE

THIS BODY TO OVERTURN THE EXCEPTION FINDING OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND REQUIRE THE INITIAL STUDY THE SITE HAS NEEDED SINCE 2018. IF THE PLANNING

DEPARTMENT AND THE BODY IS NOT BASING A DECISION BASED ON THAT EXCEPTION

THEN THE LOSS OF THE PRIOR USE OF THE RESTAURANT DID A CLOSURE SINCE DECEMBER 2023, AND A NEW RESTAURANT USE DUALIFIES AS A NEW USE. IF A

RESTAURANT IS PERMITTED IT STILL MUST APPLY FOR THE OTHER COMMITMENTS OF THE

PLANNING CODE, SUCH AS PARKING T IS INCORRECT THAT THE EASEMENTS AND THE

SALE OF THE LOT PROPERTY, THE FACT THAT THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL IS NOT A PARTY

TO THOSE ACTIONS DOES NOT REDUCE THE LIABILITY OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL IN FOLLOWING ITS OWN CODE. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE ALL OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE NEEDED? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO, I GUESS WE ARE BACK HERE.

YES
QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

YES, QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

YES. I WAS JUST SAYING WE ARE BACK AT THE DAIS AND TAKE QUESTIONS.

I THINK THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS A SHORT PRESENTATION. TWO MINUTES.

WHO IS THAT?
YES. I AM SORRY? TWO MINUTES. OKAY.

HI, GOOD EVENING. YOU ARE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS THAT CORRECT? I AM ALSO THE APPLICANT. YES.

OKAY. YOU CAN HEAR ME, CORRECT?
YEAH. OKAY.

WE HAVE THE TIMER ON. OKAY. SORRY. I AM SORRY CAN I JUMP IN REALLY QUICK, FOR EQUITY GIVE FIVE MINUTES AS WELL.

YES. CAN YOU CHANGE IT TO FIVE MINUTES PLEASE?
SURE.

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THANK YOU. GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU. I SHOULD NOT TAKE FIVE MINUTES, THOUGH. THERE WERE THREE-POINTS

THAT I WANTED TO HIT ON SINCE WE WENT OVER EVERYTHING, FIRST, THIS PROPERTY, I

AM SURE MANY OF YOU KNOW HAS BEEN A RESTAURANT FOR A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. SO, THIS WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A NEW USE. IT WOULD JUST BE A CONTINUOUS USE OF A PRIOR EXISTING RESTAURANT. IT HAS THE ZONING FOR IT. UNDER SMC17.160 WE ARE BEING GRANDFATHERED IN BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ANYTHING MATERIALLY DIFFERENT. YOU WOULD SEE A BUILDING AND A RESTAURANT OWNER WOULD CHANGE, NEW MANAGEMENT WOULD COME IN. IF YOU ARE NOT DOING

ANYTHING DIFFERENT, IT IS COMMON PLACE, NOTHING DIFFERENT AND THERE SHOULD

NOT BE ANY NEW ZONING SINCE NOTHING MATERIALLY IS BEING CHANGED, STRUCTURALLY. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION, IN TERMS OF THE EASEMENT, IT IS A PRIVATE AGREEMENT. NOT ANYTHING THAT THE CITY WOULD REALLY HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON NECESSARILY. THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT IN CIVIL COURT FOR THESE SORT OF USES BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT ZONING.

THE LAST THING WOULD BE, BECAUSE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALREADY APPROVED

THE USE PERMIT AND THERE WAS NOT ANY ERROR OR ABUSE OF DISCRETION THIS IS

PRETTY MUCH A REALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD CASE OF ONE RESTAURANT TAKING OVER ANOTHER SPACE. THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS WHOLE ENTIRE THING IS. WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK TO MR. OLIVEIRA AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE RESPECTING THE SPACE. BE SIDES THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS WITH THE SPACE. I AM ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO RESPECTFULLY DENY THE APPEAL AND UPHOLD THE ALCOHOL USE PERMIT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBERS ONLY. WHAT I JUST HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT SOUNDS LIKE THE WAY I READ. ASKING STAFF, SO, THIS IS BASICALLY A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP WITH NO SUBSTANTIAL ALTERATION, IS THAT THE GIST? YES.

WHAT I HEARD FROM THE PERSON WHO BROUGHT THE APPEAL IS CQA. I AM NOT ENTIRELY SURE I READ THAT. SO, WHAT IS THAT ABOUT AND WHY DOES IT NOT HAVE MERIT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE?
I BELIEVE SEQA. IS THAT WHAT IT WAS?
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENT ACT. I DID NOT HEAR IT THAT WAY.

AND IN THIS CASE IT IS STAFF'S BELIEF THAT CLASS 1 EXCEPTION IS APPROPRIATE. THERE

ARE NOT UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE THE ABILITY FOR BUSINESSES TO

REOCCUPY NEW OWNERS TO COME IN FOR THE SAME BUSINESS IN THE SAME STRUCTURE

WITHOUT PROVIDING ADDITIONAL PARKING OR MEETING SETBACKS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN PLACE 50 YEARS AGO OR WHATEVER IT IS COMMON PLACE AND HAPPENS ALL OVER THE CITY.

OKAY, THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
OKAY. DID YOU -- OKAY. YOU WERE REACHING IN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, THERE IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE APPEAL ON 8050BODEGA AVENUE.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, TWO MINUTE, CHAMBERS FIRST AND THEN OUT TO ZOOM. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

GOOD EVENING. I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY BECAUSE I WAS THE PRIOR OWNER WHO SOLD IT TO THE APPLICANTS. THE APPELLANT WAS INACCURATE IN SOME VERY

IMPORTANT AREAS, NUMBER ONE, I KNOW OF ONE RESTAURANT IN THE ENTIRE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL THAT HAS ANY GREATER AMOUNT OF OFF-SITE PARKING. AND THAT WOULD BE HOT MONK. THEY ARE ADJACENT TO THE CITY LOT. NO OTHER RESTAURANT THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT HAS MORE PARKING THAN 80/50. THERE ARE 68 OFF SITE PARKING SPACES AND THERE IS AN EASEMENT FOR ANOTHER 40 PARKING SPACES. WHICH EXCEEDS EVEN THE NEW REQUIREMENTS. SO, IT IS FORTUNATE GET THE FACTS OUT HERE STRAIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. KYLE? GO AHEAD PLEASE.

SO, JUST MORE ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THINGS HERE. THE CATCH REALLY IS ABOUT GRANDFATHERED, NONCONFORMING RESTAURANTS. THOSE USES CAN BE LOST BY A BANDMENT OR DISCONTINUANCE. MANY SAY IF THE NONCONFORMING USE STOPS FOR A SET PERIOD, COMMONLY 180 DAYS, SIX MONTHS, NINE MONTHS, 12 MONTHS, WHATEVER, Agenda Item Number 2
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IT CAN NOT BE RE-ESTABLISHED AS OF RIGHT. DEPENDING WHAT WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY IN SEBASTOPOL I WOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. THE FIRST RESTAURANT CLOSED. THE SPACE SAT VACANT FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD AND THEN ONLY LATER A NEW RESTAURANT PROPOSED OPENING. THEN, REALLY, THE

QUESTION IS WAS THE PRIOR NONCONFORMING RESTAURANT USE DISCONTINUED LONG ENOUGH TO TERMINATE. IF THE ANSWER IS YES, THEY CAN NOT JUST REVIVE IT BECAUSE BOTH TENANTS ARE RESTAURANTS. IN PARTICULAR, I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS LOCATION IN TERMS OF LIKE, ALCOHOL USE, RIGHT? UNLIKE MANY

OTHER ALCOHOL-SERVING LOCATIONS, THAT HAPPEN TO BE PRIMARILY WITHIN AN URBAN CORE, THIS IS A MORE REMOVED LOCATION. AS SOMEBODY WHO IN THE WINTER OF 1992 EXPERIENCED A DRUNK DRIVER FROM MARTY'S TOP OF THE HILL FALL ASLEEP AT

THE WHEEL COMING DOWN BODEGA AND CRASH INTO MY HOME CAUSING ME TO WAKE

UP AND LOOK OUT THE WINDOW AND SEEING A MANGLED VEHICLE AND A BLOODY HAND STICKING OUT. I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR JUST KIND OF APPROACH TO ALCOHOL USE PERMITS IN OUR CITY. SO, I THINK WHILE WE CAN GET INTO THE LOGISTICS

OF THE LEGALLEES ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO APPROVE THIS, REALLY, WE

HAVE A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE APPROVING AND THE

USE OF THE LOCATION AND REALLY, LIKE, OUR -- HOW IS OUR ENFORCEMENT AT A LOCATION WHERE .

Agenda Item Number 2
KYLE THAT IS TWO MINUTES.

YEP, THANKS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT COME BACK IN CHAMBERS, ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT,PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING, I AM EDWARD FISHMAN AND I WORK NEXT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. I ENJOYED THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IN THE PRIOR BUSINESS. I THINK IT IS A SHAME TO HAVE IT SIT EMPTY I AM PRO BUSINESS AND REVENUE FOR THE CITY. NOT

FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE OR ALCOHOL USE PERSPECTIVE BUT FROM THE POSITION OF

I WOULD RATHER SEE BUSINESSES FLOURISH AND REVENUE APPLIED TO THE CITY AND ALLOW IT TO CONTINUE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM IF THERE IS

ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS, ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS APPEAL. SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WE ARE BACK AT THE DAIS IF ANYONE HAS ANY COMMENTS.

I HAVE A MOTION.

OKAY. ANY COMMENT?
I GUESS I WAS SURPRISED TO HAVE THIS ON OUR AGENDA. HAVING LIVED IN SEBASTOPOL, FOURTH GENERATION THIS ALWAYS HAS BEEN A RESTAURANT. I, TOO, ENJOYED GOING THERE. NOT JUST MY PARENTS USED TO GO THERE AFTER THEY WERE SQUARE DANCING, I MEAN I JUST, I AM REALLY SHOCKED THIS IS EVEN BEFORE US. SO, I

AM GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS USE FOR REPLACING THE RESTAURANT TONIGHT AND

AS I SAID, FOLLOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO WE TRUST TO REVIEW THESE THINGS FOR US AND THAT IS WHERE I WILL BE GOING TONIGHT.

OKAY.

AND I, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I PRETTY MUCH THE SAME COMMENT. I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE IT. I ENJOYED THIS PLACE AS MANY DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS, I TOO, I THINK THE

PLANNING, GO WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON WHAT THEY THEIR DECISION WAS, I TRUST THEM. SO, I AM COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN YOU HAD A MOTION? YES. I AM FOLLOWING STAFF'S ANALYSIS I DON'T SEE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE. I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE APPEAL.

I WILL SECOND THAT.

THANK YOU, SO MOVED BY COUNCIL ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED BY HINTON AND DENY

THE APPEAL AND STAFF'S DETERMINATION THAT IT DOES NOT REQUIRE USE PERMIT OR

ADDITIONAL PARKING AND UPHOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S APPROVAL OF ALCOHOL USE PERMIT. TO ALLOW A TYPE 41, BEER AND WINE AND A EATING Agenda Item Number 2
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ESTABLISHMENT, ALCOHOL LICENSE FOR A NEW RESTAURANT AT 8050BODEGA AVENUE. [ Agenda Item Number 2
ROLL BEING CALLED ]
CARTER AND MAURER ARE ABSENT.

WE TRY NOT TO CLAP IN THE ROOM HERE JUST TO -- YOU KNOW. KEEP ORDER. COULD SOMEONE LET VICE MAYOR KNOW WE ARE FINISHED WITH THAT ITEM.

WHILE WE ARE DOING THAT, ONE MORE TIME, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS MOVED TO THE MAY 5th MEETING AT OR AFTER 6:00 P.M.WHILE WE ARE WAITING, I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR THE NEXT ITEM, NUMBER 11. JUST FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR

WITH OUR PROCESS, WE ARE GOING TO HEAR OUR STAFF REPORT AND THEN WE WILL HEAR THE REPORT ON THE WHOLE ITEM AND THEN IT WILL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

WE WILL ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT ITEM. THEN IT WILL COME BACK TO US FOR OUR COMMENTS AND THEN OUR DECISIONS. JUST SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN HERE IN AWHILE.

WELCOME BACK. NO PROBLEM. WHEREVER YOU ARE READY WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO NUMBER 11. GO AHEAD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO REGULAR CALENDAR AGENDA ITEMS, DISCUSSION AND OR ACTION, NUMBER 11, CITYWIDE PAVEMENT IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, CIP NUMBER 0521-25.05, SITE SELECTION FISCAL YEAR 20/26, THIS ITEM IS TO PROVIDE DIRECTION ON PROCEEDING WITH THE DESIGN AND

CONSTRUCTION AND THE PAVEMENT IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ON PALM AVENUE AND

STROUT STREET AND PROVIDE ANY COMMENT OR DIRECTION ON FUTURE STREET RECONSTRUCTION PRIORITIES. IT IS WITH PUBLIC WORKS. THIS FISCAL IMPACT IS $500,000, IT IS INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 25-26CIP FOR THIS PROJECT. I WILL TURN IT OVER.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS, AS STATED THIS ITEM TO

REVIEW AND APPROVE THE SELECTION OF THE FIRST STREETS OR THE STREETS INCLUDED IN THE '25-'26, THERE IS THE SECOND PHASE OF OUR PAVEMENT

IMPROVEMENTS, THE FIRST ONE DIG OUT AND REPAIR PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED IN MARCH. WE ARE THROUGH OUR DESIGN OF THAT PIECE OF PAVEMENT AND WE SHOULD STILL BE ON TRACK TO PUT IT UP TO BID IN MAY. THAT WAS THE FIRST PROJECT THAT CAME OUT OF THE PAVEMENT IMPROVEMENT. IN THAT PROCESS, PULLING OUT PALM

AND STROUT CAME UP AS A DISCUSSION PIECE BECAUSE THEY ARE IN DISREPAIR TO

HAVE DIG OUT AND THE PAVEMENT IS PRETTY MUCH FAILED ALL OF THE WAY DOWN TO THE SUBBASE. THEY NEED TO BE RECONSTRUCTED. SO, THEY WERE PULLED ASIDE AS A SEPARATE CIP PROJECT. WE WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH DOING THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN AND PUT THE TWO PROJECTS OUT TO BID AS PART OF OUR '25-26

IMPROVEMENT, PART OF THAT ENGINEERING ESTIMATES HAVE COME BACK A LITTLE BIT

LESS EXPENSIVE THAN WE ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THE CIP PROGRAM. WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO MAYBE INCLUDE A THIRD STREET IN THIS YEAR'S CIP. AS I AM LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON CHOOSING THOSE TWO STREETS WITHY HAVE

AN OPPORTUNITY TOO MAYBE INCLUDE A THIRD STREET OF A SIMILAR SIZE IN THAT FIRST YEAR BID PACKAGE. AND, I HAVE SOME OPTIONS OF THE NEXT KIND OF VERY ILLREPAIRED STREETS THAT NEED TO BE REBUILT IN THE SAME FASHION AS PALM AND STROUT AT PART OF THE PACKAGE. IN THOSE, SIMILAR SIZE WOULD BE WEST, OUR SOUTHEAST SIDE OR FANON. I AM PROPOSING ONE OF THOSE MIGHT BE INCLUDED FOR A BID ITEM AS WE TAKE THESE OUT FOR DESIGN, ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION. I WILL .

GO AHEAD.

CAN YOU REPEAT THE STREETS THAT ARE POSSIBLE THIRD?
EAST SIDE, SOUTH, FANON. THOSE ARE THE ONES. WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX THAT WAS PART OF OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE A PCI, A RATING FROM 0-100 AND ALL OF THOSE ARE UNDER 10 AS ARE PALM AVENUE AND -- STROUT HAS WELL. WE WILL COME BACK TO

COUNCIL AS PART OF NEXT YEAR'S CIP WITH AN ADDITIONAL GROUPING OF STREETS FOR NEXT YEAR'S CITYWIDE PAVEMENT PROJECT.

YOU ARE REFERRING TO WHAT IS IN TABLE 2 IS THAT IT?

THOSE ARE THE PAVEMENT CONDITIONS INDEXES, THE NEXT LUMPING OF STREETS IN VERY BAD CONDITION.

OKAY. GO AHEAD COUNCILMEMBER.

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THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THERE IS THE PART THAT IS CONFUSING TO ME. SO, THERE WAS PRIOR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE STREETS, I DON'T SEE THE PCI LISTED. IF YOU GO DOWN TO TABLE 2 AND THE ADDITIONAL STREETS THAT ARE CONTEMPLATES, THE PAVEMENT INDEX IS STATED. WHY ARE WE NOT SEEING THE PCI FOR THESE TWO? Agenda Item Number 2

SO, ARE PALM AND STROUT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED SO I MISSED PUTTING THEM IN THERE. THE PCI FOR PALM IS 8 AND STROUT IS THREE.

THAT BEGS THE QUESTION -- ARE WE IN QUESTIONS?
I WANTED TO CLARIFY IF WE ARE DONE WITH PRESENTATION?
NOT QUITE. THAT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR, APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH

PALM AND STROUT AND CONSIDERATION OF A POTENTIAL THIRD STREET TO PUT INTO THIS PACKAGE.

YOU ARE ASKING, YOU WANT US TO -- THOSE POTENTIAL STREETS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE THE ONES THAT I MENTIONED IN TABLE 2 THAT YOU MENTIONED EAST SIDE, FANON AND SOUTH? THERE ARE TWO OTHERS AS WELL.

YES, THOSE, AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE EVERYONE LOOKING AT THE AGENDA ITEMS A PICTURE WHERE WE ARE HEADED. THOSE ARE THE IN, GROUPING OF STREETS WE

KNOW THERE ARE LANGUAGE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS ABOUT AND GETTING A LOT OF CITIZEN COMPLAINTS ABOUT AND HAVE LOW PCIs. FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THIS YEAR'S CIP WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT A SMALLER STREET. I AM HOPING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STREETS IN THE TABLE NEXT YEAR.

CONFUSING. NOT IN HERE. I LIKE IT TO BE VERY SPELLED OUT. I FEEL LIKE WE ARE

BOUNCING ALL OVER THE PLACE
YES, THAT IS MY GENERAL QUESTION. I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC. CLEARLY THERE IS A LOT OF PUBLIC HERE THAT ARE UNHAPPY.

OR THEY WOULD NOT BE HERE, WE ARE ONLY CONSIDERING TWO STREETS WHO'S PCI IS

NOT LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND WHAT I JUST HEARD FROM STAFF IS THOSE TWO STREETS HAVE A HIGHER PCI THAN SOME OF THEM THAT ARE IN TABLE 2. ADDITIONAL STREETS, WHY ARE WE NOT PICKING PCIs WITH THE HORRIBLE NUMBER, ONE, THE NEXT HORRIBLENESS WOULD BE TWO, THREE AND GOING WITH THOSE? WHY ARE WE JUMPING ALL OVER THE PLACE?
PALM AND STROUT CAME UP .

I AM HAVING AUDITORY PROBLEMS, THE WHISPERING IS HARD TO HEAR, I KNOW THAT IS

MY THING BUT IF WE COULD KEEP THAT DOWN SO I CAN JUST FOCUS ON QUESTION AND ANSWER THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU

SO, PALM AND STROUT CAME UP IN --DISCUSSIONS, IT WAS PART OF THIS YEAR'S

REPAVEMENT, PALM IS A CONNECTOR ROAD, EVERYONE GOES THROUGH THERE, SO, EVEN THOUGH THE PCI IS HIGHER, IT IS A HIGH TRAFFIC STREET. THAT ONE FEELS

IMPORTANT AS I UNDERSTOOD FROM COUNCIL'S PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS AND STROUT IS 3, IT IS PRETTY BAD FOR PCI. THAT ONE IS A VERY, VERY LOW PCI STREET.

GO AHEAD.

I CAN SEE IT ON THE SCREEN. I LIKE TO KNOW IF THE WHOLE STREETS ARE BEING COVERED. I AM TRYING TO PULL UP A MAP. WE ARE STARTING FROM, YOU KNOW, START TO FINISH. I KNOW PALM VERY WELL BUT I AM TRYING TO ORIENTTATE ORIENTATE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC, TOO. AND I DO KNOW THAT A ONE, COUNCILMEMBER SAID CAN WE LOOK AT PALM TWO? IT IS NOT A TOP PRIORITY FOR ME, I KNOW WE WANTED TO

LOOK AT IT ALONG WITH THE OTHERS BUT, ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT SEEMS LIKE NOW WE GOT JUST THESE TWO STREETS IN FRONT OF US. JUST TO GET OUR BEARINGS DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION OR A STREET MAP TO PUT UP TO TAKE A LOOK AT? NO. SORRY.

I CAN BRING IT UP BUT I HAVE TO GET INTO ZOOM.

OKAY.

TRYING TO LOOK AT OUR OWN MAP WHILE WE ARE WAITING.

YES. STROUT. I AM SORRY. IS IT DOWN BY THE PLAZA? I KNOW WHERE PALM IS.

HOW ARE WE DOING?
JUST ABOUT THERE.

OKAY. .

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I AM GOING TO JUMP IN AGAIN. I AM STILL LOST. I AM SENSING OTHERS UP HERE ARE LOST, TOO. HOW IS IT THAT OUT OF ALL OF THE HORRIBLE STREETS THAT WE HAVE WITH LOW PCIs WE ARE SPENDING THIS AMOUNT OF TIME ON JUST TWO? DIRECTING IT TO

STAFF AND OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYONE'S STAFF TIME. WHY IS IT HERE NOW? OVERALL LOST
Agenda Item Number 2
IT WAS A DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO LOOK AT PALM AVENUE AND THE STREET.

IT DID.

SO THERE WERE THREE OF US THAT VOTED TO EXAM TWO STREETS OUT OF CONTEXT? PALM AVENUE WAS THE ONE THAT I WAS AWARE OF AND STROUT CAME UP. WE HAD FUNDING AVAILABLE TO LOOK AT STROUT AS WELL.

YOU SAID WHEN THREE OF US VOTED?
I DON'T HAVE THAT TIME IN FRONT OF ME. I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK.

IT WAS AN ITEM, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

I CAN GO BACK.

I BROUGHT UP PALM AND WANTED TO DISCUSS IT MORE AND IT WAS NOT -- WE COULD NOT DISCUSS IT THAT NIGHT. WE AGREED WE WOULD BRING IT BACK AS AN AGENDA

ITEM LATER BECAUSE THEY HAD MORE INFORMATION TO GIVE US BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT SURE OF THE COSTS OF IT ALL. AND THEN, THEN I BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED IS THEN STROUT STREET CAME UP AND WE ALL RECEIVED INFORMATION ABOUT IT. THESE WERE THE TWO THAT CAME UP. THAT IS MY RECOLLECTION.

THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS HOW IT CAME BACK.

OKAY. ARE -- GO AHEAD VICE MAYOR.

SO, JUST TO CLARIFY. THE WORST STREETS RIGHT NOW, STROUT WOULD BE THE WORST,

LIVE OAK AND THEN FANO, EAST SIDE, PALM, AND LIGHTING IN ORDER OF WORSE, BETTER AND WORSE SORT OF? DID I GET IT RIGHT?
I BELIEVE YOU ARE MOSTLY ACCURATE. I CAN NOT PULL IT UP BUT YES -- AND -- SO -- PCI OF 3, STROUT AND LIVE OAK ARE THE WORST.

YES, LIVE OAK IS A LONGER STRETCH AND DESIGN CHALLENGES JUST THE WAY THE SIDEWALK IS. SO, OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO BRING IT BACK IN NEXT YEAR'S PAVEMENT IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER HOW MUCH TRAFFIC A ROAD GETS, LIVE OAK NOT AS MUCH TRAFFIC, JUST ASKING? YES. TRAFFIC, LOADING IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LARGE PAVEMENT PLAN, AND THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL HAS DONE IT. LOOK AT TRAFFIC RATING

AND THE CONDITIONING AND THEY BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS THAT REALLY LOOK AT SURFACE TREATMENTS. THE LOWER NUMBERS NEVER MAKE IT INTO A

PAVEMENT PLAN BECAUSE THEY ARE APPROVED BECAUSE OF THEIR INCREDIBLY BAD CONDITION. SO, WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AND MY SMALL TIME HERE IS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A BALANCE AND A MIX OF THOSE. ADDRESS SOME OF THE STREETS THAT ARE IN TERRIBLE CONDITION. YOU KNOW, A COUPLE A YEAR, THEY

ARE VERY EXPENSIVE AND ALSO, REDOING THE SURFACE TREATMENT TO OUR BETTER STREETS SO THEY DON'T FALL INTO DISREPAIR. THAT IS WHERE I HOPE TO BE HEADED IN NEXT YEAR'S CIP. THESE ARE THE TWO STREETS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP PREVIOUSLY

AND ASKED ABOUT FURTHER COST THAT IS WHERE WE ARE
FOR THE SENSE OF ORDER. WE HAVE STROUT AND PALM BUT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE FOR A THIRD, NOT CLEAR TO ME WHAT EXACTLY? LOOKING AT THE RESTATED AND IT IS ONLY ABOUT PALM AND STROUT. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND.

WHEN WE GOT SOME OF THE ENGINEER ESTIMATES BACK AND DESIGN COSTS BACK TO DO PALM, STROUT AND A POTENTIALLY THIRD STREET. WE HAVE ENOUGH IN THIS YEAR'S CIP, NOT IN '26-'27 BUT IN '25-'26 TO DO A STREET OF SIMILAR SIZE. I PULLED THE STREETS

WITH LOW PCI AND SIMILAR-SQUARE-FOOTAGE TO PALM AND STROUT AND IF ONE OF

THOSE IS IN CONSIDERATION AND YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AND OPTION NAL AND GET STARTED ON THE DESIGN WORK FOR A THIRD STREET.

I SEE. OKAY.

TO CLARIFY, PALM, ARE WE JUST TALKING THE PETALUMA AVENUE AND MAIN? YES.

THAT IS THE ONLY PART. IN STROUTS CASE, THE WHOLE STREET OR A SECTION? Agenda Item Number 2
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THE WHOLE SECTION. THAT LOOKS LONGER THAN THE SECTION IN PALM, IS IT? IT IS LESS EXPENSIVE WHEN I LOOK AT THE BIDS.

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IT IS A LITTLE LONGER.

SIMILAR?
YES. SIMILAR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD.

DO YOU HAVE A TIME LINE WHEN THESE COULD BE COMPLETED? WOULD THEY BE COMPLETED THIS YEAR OR INTO NEXT YEAR?
NOT COMPLETED THIS FISCAL YEAR. I HAVE DESIGN COSTS PENDING, COUNCIL'S

APPROVAL TONIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TOMORROW AND THEY HAVE A FIVE

WEEK ENGINEERING AND DESIGN TO PUT TOGETHER SOME PLANS AND SPECKS, AND THEN WE HAVE 21-30-DAY BID PERIOD. LOOKING AT TWO TO THREE MONTHS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION WOULD START. REALISTICALLY IT WOULD START THE END OF JUNE, BEGINNING OF JULY FOR THESE PROJECTS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THEY COULD BE DONE BY AUGUST? POSSIBLY?
SEPTEMBER.

PERFECT. OKAY.

OKAY. SO YOU ARE ASKING US -- JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HEAR YOU ARE

ASKING US UNDER RESTATED RECOMMENDATION CITY COUNCIL RECEIVE THE REPORT

AND PROVIDE DIRECTION ON PROCEEDING WITH DESIGN FOR PALM SAFE AND STROUT

AND PROVIDE COMMENTS OR DIRECTION ON FUTURE STREET RECONSTRUCTION FOR PART OF '26-'27CI P THE THIRD PIECE YOU ARE WANTING US TO LOOK AT TABLE 2 AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION?

WHICH ONE OF THE STREETS IS A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THE THIRD STREET TO PUT INTO THIS YEAR'S CIP.

OKAY. WHICH ONE ARE YOU RECOMMENDING?

I COULD SELECT FANON BECAUSE IT IS A CONNECTOR ROAD BETWEEN PETALUMA AND SOUTH MAIN AS WELL. IT GETS THE MOST TRAFFIC.

OKAY. SO YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE COST IS AT THIS POINT AND THAT IS WHY YOU WANT TO PUT IT OUT.

OPTIONAL ITEM, LOOKING AT THE-SQUARE-FOOTAGE, THAT ONE, PALM, IT IS SIMILAR FOOTAGE SO IT WOULD BE IN THE SAME BALLPARK, I AM HOPING. JUST TO KEEP THINGS MOVING FORWARD EFFICIENTLY. IF WE COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO DO THE

DESIGN WORK AND INCLUDE IT IN THE CONTRACT AS AN OPTIONAL BID ITEM WE HAVE

THE FLEXIBILITY IF IT COMES IN WITHIN OUR BUDGET TO DO ALL THREE GOT IT. OKAY. ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK WE ARE ALL TRYING TO DIGEST THIS.

I AM TRYING TO FIND FANON ON THE MAP
DO YOU HAVE IT ON THE MAP THERE THAT YOU CAN DIRECT PEOPLE? YES. IT IS THIS GUY RIGHT HERE.

I CAN NOT SEE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN BLOW IT UP A LITTLE. SORRY, MY EYES.

YOU SAID IT WAS NEAR PETALUMA AVENUE?
SO, FANON IS THE ROAD ACROSS FROM COULDIER?
YES. OPPOSITE SIDE OF SOUTH MAIN?
CORRECT.

WE ARE THINKING BETWEEN MAIN AND PETALUMA AVENUE. IS THAT WHERE YOU ARE THINKING?
YES.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN THE OTHER TWO SIMILAR SIZE STREETS ARE EAST SIDE AND SOUTH. WE HAVE HAD SIGNIFICANT RESTAURANT COMPLAINTS, PROBABLY SOME OF THESE FOLKS.

GOT IT. ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE FROM ANYONE AT THIS POINT? QUESTION ABOUT, THESE ARE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS YEAR. WHAT ARE YOU RECOMMENDING FOR NEXT YEAR?

SO, THIS GROUPING OF STREETS WOULD BE THE ONES THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND

DOING THE FULL RECONSTRUCTION ON AS PART OF NEXT YEAR'S CITYWIDE PAVEMENT

IMPROVEMENT AND A PARALLEL PROJECT THAT DOES SOME OF THE SURFACE Agenda Item Number 2
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TREATMENT. A SEAL OVER SOME OF THE MEDIUM LEVEL STREETS JUST TO KEEP THOSE FROM FALLING INTO DISREPAIR. AND WHEN I COME BACK WITH THAT I AM HOPING TO

PRESENT MORE OF A FIVE-YEAR PAVEMENT PLAN THAT SHOWS WHERE WE ARE HEADING

SO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY CAN SEE WHEN WE WILL GET TO SOME OF THE OTHER STREETS, I KNOW THERE IS LOTS OF INTEREST.

Agenda Item Number 2
ARE YOU RECOMMENDING LIVE O AK, EAST SIDE FOR 2026-2027? CORRECT. OKAY. SORRY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MARY IF YOU WANT TO GO OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CITYWIDE PAVEMENT PROJECT DISCUSSED AND PRESENTED. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT AND CHAMBERS FIRST AND THEN ZOOM. ANYONE IN CLAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE -- CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A CASE. IT IS ON THE SCREEN BUT I CAN JUMP IN WHEN YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT.

GOOD EVENING, AGAIN,ED FISHMAN AND I LIVE ON THE CORNER OF SOUTH AVENUE. AT

THE END I WILL ASK YOU TO DO TWO THINGS, BUT FIRST, I DESCRIBE WHAT IT IS LIKE LIVING THERE. STREET PAVERS COME, WE HEAR THEM COMING AROUND THE CORNER.

MYSELF AND MY GOOD NEIGHBORS DUCK FOR COVER. BECAUSE THE SPINNING WHEELS

OF THE BRUSHES KICK UP THE ROCKS AND THE ASPHALT THAT CONTINUALLY BREAK FROM YEARS OF PATCHING UPON PATCHING UPON PATCHING BUT BREAK. I REALIZE YOU FOLKS HAVE A TOUGH JOB. YOU GOT THIS MUCH TO DO WITH THIS MUCH MONEY. I UNDERSTAND THAT. WHICH SEVERAL OF YOU WHO I RECOGNIZE COMING AND RINGING

MY DOORBELL AND ASKING ME FOR A VOTE I TOOK YOU OUTSIDE AND WALKED THE STREET WITH YOU AND I SAID PLEASE LOOK AT THIS. EACH OF YOU SAID TO ME, THIS IS

HORRIBLE, THIS IS DEPLORABLE, THIS IS EMBARRASSING AND YOU PROMISED YOU

WOULD GO BACK TO BASICS, BASICS OF GOVERNMENT IS TO PROVIDE ROADS, SAFETY, SCHOOLS. I KNOW THESE ARE NOT EASY DECISIONS. I DROVE HERE TONIGHT, I DROVE DOWN SOUTH AVENUE, EAST SIDE, I CROSSED THROUGH PALM. AND I AM NOT THE CITY

ENGINEER, I DO NOT HAVE ENGINEERING EXPERIENCE BUT MY GOSH, THE SOUTH AND

THE EAST SIDE ROAD IS SO MUCH WORSE THAN ANY OF THE OTHER STREETS MENTIONED TO BE DONE THIS YEAR. I HAVE BEEN CALLING AND CONTACTING CITY FOR THE 17 YEARS THAT I HAVE LIVED THERE. I AM ALWAYS TOLD THE SAME THING. 25 SECONDS.

THANK YOU
IT IS FUNDING. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO TWO THINGS, ONE, PLEASE TAKE A WALK DOWN OUR STREET. TWO, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TABLE THE MATTER FOR ANOTHER

MONTH TO LOOK INTO THIS FURTHER AND DO A DEEPER DIVE AND ANALYSIS AS TO

WHICH STREETS ARE IN THE WORST DISREPAIR

THANK YOU
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT ZOOM, KYLE CAN YOU UNMUTE, CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

GO AHEAD PLEASE.

SO, I THINK IT IS GREAT THAT CITY COUNCIL IS DEBATING THE MERITS OF ONE STREET OVER ANOTHER. BUT LIKE LET'S MAYBE UNPACK HOW WE GOT HERE. THIS IS ABOUT

DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, THE CITY FAILING TO MAINTAIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO

THE POINT OF SUCH DISREPAIR THAT THE EXPENSE IS ASTRONOMICAL BUT IT IS REPLACEMENT INSTEAD OF REPAIR. SO, WHY DOES THAT HAPPEN? WELL, FOR ALMOST PROBABLY 10 YEARS NOW, THE CITY HAS CHOSEN TO DEFER FUNDS THAT WOULD BE

ALLOCATED FOR THINGS LIKE ROADS, MONFREGASOLINE TAX, -- MONEY FROM GASOLINE

TAX THAT WERE DOCUMENTED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND MOVING THOSE TO

OTHER GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES, THIS WAS WELL DOCUMENTED IN OUR LAST CITY MANAGEMENT REPORT THAT THIS COUNCIL RECEIVED SIX YEARS AGO. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PALM FOR SIX YEARS. THE CITY DOESN'T PRIORITIZE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHY? IT IS NOT SEXY, RIGHT? IT IS WAY MORE SEXY TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE MONEY TO THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL, RIGHT? MAKES GREAT HEADLINES, PRESS, BUT GIVING $15,000 TO $100,000 TO ROAD REPAIR DOES NOT MAKE THE HEADLINES AND DOES NOT LOOK THAT GREAT. WHEN YOU DO THAT FOR YEARS, YEARS, GIVING MONEY TO

NONPROFITS INSTEAD OF TO THE ROADS THAT ARE NOW SOME OF THE WORST IN THE Agenda Item Number 2
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BAY AREA WE GET TO WHERE WE ARE AT. COUPLE THAT TO THE FACT THAT WE DON'T

HAVE AN ENGINEER WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO OUR OWN LABOR BECAUSE

WE ARE OUT SOURCING IT TO THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS AND THAT IS WHY IT IS EXPENSIVE AND THAT IS WHY WE GET TWO STREETS DONE EVERY YEAR. GOOD LUCK.

Agenda Item Number 2
THANK YOU, KYLE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, CHAMBERS, ANYONE IN CHAMBERS, PLEASE.

HELLO. MY NAME IS NICK. I HAVE LIVED IN SEBASTOPOL SINCE 1981. STARTED LIVING ON SOUTH AVENUE BACK IN 1981. IN FACT, SANDY WAS MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR FOR A FEW YEARS. I LIVED THERE UNTIL 1987 AND MOVED BACK ON SOUTH AVENUE IN THE SAME DUPLEX. 2011. SO, I KNOW WHAT THE STREETS LOOKED LIKE BACK THEN. THEY WERE IN BAD SHAPE THEN. THEY ARE IN WORST SHAPE NOW. ONE THING THAT WE

FORGET, TOO, THE ROADS ARE MEANT FOR CARS PRIMARILY BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO

PARK YOUR CARS AND WHEN YOU GET OUT OF YOUR CAR AND YOU STEP INTO A POTHOLE AND TWIST YOUR ANKLE YOU HAVE A LIABILITY ISSUE GOING ON. THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. ADDRESSED, TOO. SO, ANY WAY I HOPE YOU TAKE INTO

CONSIDERATION TAKING A WALK DOWN EAST SIDE SOUTH AVENUE, TAKE A LOOK FOR YOURSELF. I SENT AN EMAIL TO ELISSA. THERE ARE PICTURES ON THERE. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH ALL OF THE TIME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM. KAREN CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF PLEASE.

HI, MY NAME IS VON, I'M KAREN'S SPOUSE, I LIVE ON WEST STREET, I LIVED IN SEBASTOPOL SINCE THE LATE '70s. STROUT IS CERTAINLY A DEPLORABLE STREET. WE SENT PICTURES TO THE CITY MANAGER. THERE ARE POTHOLES, 6-8 INCHES DEEP THROUGHOUT THE STREET. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD. I BROUGHT THIS UP LAST YEAR. THEY CAME OUT AND THREW SOME PATCHES IN, I APPRECIATED. IT

IS A PLACE WHERE WHEELS CAN BREAK, TIRES WILL GO OUT, AND I THINK THAT THE POTENTIAL FOR AN ACCIDENT IS HIGH. AND I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT IT IS NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST. I HAVE NOT BEEN TO SOUTH STREET BUT, I CAN NOT IMAGINE THAT IT IS IN MORE DEPLORABLE CONDITION TO STROUT. I HOPE THAT YOUR AGENDA GOES FORWARD

AND STROUT GET FIXED THIS YEAR, JUST FOR THE WELL BEING OF THE CITIZENS OF SEBASTOPOL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS, ANYONE IN CHAMBERS? IN THE BACK?
GOT IT. I AM ANN ROGERS, I LIVE ON WEST STREET, OPPOSITE OF STROUT. I AM SORRY WE ARE MIXED UP IN ANY CONFUSION. I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE ANY CONFUSION ABOUT STROUT STREET BEING THE WORST STREET. IN THE CITY? AND I WISH WE COULD GET THAT DONE AND WHILE YOU WORK OUT THE REST OF YOUR ISSUES. THANKS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT GOING BACK OUT TO ZOOM IF THERE IS ANYONE BACK ON ZOOM, PUBLIC COMMENT AND ON THE STREET PAVEMENT. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. COMING BACK INTO CHAMBERS. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS.

SORRY. I LIVED ON STROUT STREET FOR 33 YEARS, OUR STRETCH ON STROUT REMINDS

ME OF OUR TRAVELS TO THE THIRD WORLD COUNTRY WHERE OUR DRIVER WOULD GO UP

ON THE SIDEWALKS TO AVOID THEIR CRUMBLING ROADS, FOR YEARS WE WATCHED OUR STREET DETERIORATE WITH NO UPKEEP IN THE LAST 50 YEARS, SEEN OTHER, ONLY HALF

OF THE POTHOLES FILLED INFREQUENTLY AND WITH THE HEAVY RAIN AND TRAFFIC, THE POTHOLES ARE TREACHEROUS, AGAIN. WE PAY OUR TAXES AND IN RETURN WE EXPECT THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE WILL KEEP OUR ROADS IN A REASONABLY SAFE CONDITION.

THUS, ALLOWING ONE TO BE ABLE TO RIDE A BIKE DOWN OUR STREET WITHOUT A POTHOLE SWALLOWING UP OUR FRONT TIRE AND THROWING US OVER THE HANDLEBARS.

PROLONGED CITY NEGLIGENCE TO THE ROADS DUE TO AGING, LACK OF MAINTENANCE

AND UNDER INVESTMENT HAVE CAUSED NOT ONLY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN VEHICLE

DAMAGES BUT SERIOUS LIFE-THREATENING, CATASTROPHIC PERSONAL INJURIES OR DEATH IN CALIFORNIA. ONE PEDESTRIAN TRIPPED IN A POTHOLE COSTING HER $272,000 IN MEDICAL EXPENSES AND SHE RECEIVED A $2 MILLION SETTLEMENT. ANOTHER FELL INTO A HALF-INCH DEEP POTHOLE, SHE REQUIRED SPINAL FUSION SURGERY THAT WAS $300,000 IN MEDICAL EXPENSES, BICYCLIST RECEIVED $7 MILLION IN SETTLEMENT. ANOTHER BICYCLIST IS NONVERBAL AND REQUIRES CONSTANT 24/7 CARE.

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YOU HAVE 20 SECONDS.

IT IS A SAFETY DEFECT WHEN IT IS AT LEAST 30MM OR LESS THAN 1.14 DEEP. STROUT IS WORSE, MEASURING 4-6 DEEP AND SOME QUITE WIDE. WHEN CITIES FAIL TO MEET THESE OBLIGATIONS IT CAN OPEN UP TO COSTLY LAWSUITS.

Agenda Item Number 2
THAT IS TWO MINUTES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT BACK OUT TO

ZOOM IF THERE IS ANYONE THAT WANTS TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, BACK TO CHAMBERS, ANYONE IN CHAMBERS, WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT?
HI, I AM NANCY LANCE. I LIVED IN SEBASTOPOL OFF OF EAST SIDE ROAD IS WHERE MY DRIVEWAY IS, ON WESTERN IS THE CORNER. IT IS 300 FEET TOTAL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, I AM SORRY I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME, HAVE DRIVEN DOWN THAT ROAD AND SEEN IT.

POTHOLES, YOU CAN NOT GET AROUND THEM ANYMORE. YOU USED TO DRIVE, DRIVE, DRIVE, THEY ARE SIX INCHES DEEP. THE ROCK IS JUST SPATTERING EVERYWHERE. IT IS DEPLORABLE. AND I DRIVE DOWN PALM ALL OF THE TIME. AND I KNOW THE AREA RIGHT BETWEEN THE MAIN AND THE PETALUMA AVENUE IT IS BAD. SHORT SECTION. IT IS NOWHERE NEAR AS BAD AS EAST SIDE ROAD. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CHECK IT OUT AND THE ADDITIONAL SOUTH STREET IT IS JUST VERY SHORT, LIKE I SAID, LESS THAN 300 FEET, TAKE A LOOK. IT IS GROSS, TERRIBLE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. BACK OUT TO ZOOM IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. GOOD EVENING, I AM TIM JOHNSON, I WOULD LIKE TO

THANK THE COUNCIL LETTING THE RESIDENTS OF STROUT COME AND SAY OUR CAUSE, I HAVE OWNED A DUPLEX THERE, ONE OF MY TENANTS IS ELDERLY. 79 YEARS OLD,

MOBILITY AND HEALTH PROBLEMS, TO NAVIGATE THE DEEP POTHOLES THAT ARE WHEN SHE GETS IN AND OUT OF HER CAR IT IS REALLY A SAFETY ISSUE. CAN NOT BE DESCRIBED AS ANYTHING ELSE. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE BOTH VERY GOOD ARGUMENTS TO

INCLUDE BOTH STROUT AND SOUTH AND EAST SIDE IN THE PAVING I HOPE YOU WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AND PROCEED WITH THE WORK. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, BACK OUT TO ZOOM. ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING NONE, BACK TO CHAMBERS.

HELLO, MY NAME IS ELLEN. I SHARE A DRIVEWAY, GARAGE WITH MY LANDLADY. WE OPEN UP TO EAST SIDE AVENUE AND SOUTH AVENUE. AND, FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY PALM AND STROUT I HOPE YOUR STREETS GET REPAVED. IT SOUNDS AS DANGEROUS AS

OURS, I WANT TO TELL THE CITY COUNCIL THAT, SOUTH AVENUE AND EAST SIDE AVENUE ARE ONLY ONE BLOCK LONG. IT IS NOT LIKE AS LONG AS PALM, MAYBE YOU CAN ADD THEM. BECAUSE, THEY ARE SO DANGEROUS. JUST THIS AFTERNOON MY TIRE GOT STUCK IN A POTHOLE AND WATER WAS FLYING EVERYWHERE. GRAVEL, IT IS -- IT IS HORRIBLE. I LIVED IN SONOM ACCOUNTY IN 1983, I NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS. I HOPE SINCE

THERE IS EXTRA MONEY THAT THERE IS EXTRA, I HOPE YOU CAN ADD THE OTHER TWO TO DO ALL FOUR. THAT IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. YOU MENTIONED OAK STREET BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYONE HERE TALKING ABOUT THAT AVENUE OR STREET. SO, THANK YOU. IT IS JUST -- AND I AM ALSO, EVERY DAY I WALK ON JEWEL, HAYDEN AND Mc FARLAND. THEY ARE ALL BEAUTIFULLY PAVEED AND NO PROBLEMS. BUT I HAVE TO USE EAST SIDE AVENUE OR SOUTH AVENUE TO EVEN GO ANYWHERE. WALKING OR DRIVING.

IT IS REALLY -- I ALSO URGE YOU TO COME OVER AND CHECK IT OUT, TRY TO WALK A FEW FEET AND SEE.

YOU HAVE 20 SECONDS.

THANK YOU

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, NEXT BACK OUT TO CHAMBERS -- I AM SORRY, ZOOM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, BACK TO CHAMBERS. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

HELLO. I LIVE ON WEST STREET AND WE TAKE A SHORTCUT, THE SAFE WAY. AND STROUT IS THE STREET WE TAKE. OVER THE YEARS IT IS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE. MORE SO THIS YEAR. I NOTICED JUST BY WALKING BY. THE DIRT IS EXPOSED. I HAVE PICTURES HERE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE DIRT IS NOW. I KNOW WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES IN THE CITY AND YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT YOUR PRIORITY. HOPEFULLY YOU CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THIS STREET AND GET IT REPAIRED AS SOON AS YOU CAN.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. BACK OUT TO ZOOM. ANYONE ON ZOOM, RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, BACK TO CHAMBERS.

Agenda Item Number 2
I THIS PERSON FIRST AND I WILL COME BACK TO YOU. IF THAT IS OKAY. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS KATHY AND I LIVE ON SOUTHEAST SIDE AVENUE. I AM ADDING MY VOICE WITH MY NEIGHBORS THAT ALL CAME OUT TO SUPPORT OUR GOAL. I, TOO, HAVE BEEN IN SONOMA COUNTY FOR 50 YEARS AND NEVER, EVER SEEN STREETS LIKE THESE. AND, IT IS, AS EVERYONE SAID IS A HAZARD. -- I THINK SOMETHING ON MY CAR BROKE, TIE ROD CRACKED. I WAS JUST TOLD IT IS CRACKED. SO, I REALLY WOULD LIKE, EVERYONE ELSE,

URGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE STREETS I DRIVE ON SOUTHEAST SIDE AND THAT SECTION OF PALM. NOT IN GREAT SHAPE BUT NOT AS BAD AS SOUTH AND EAST SIDE. SO, ANY WAY. I HOPE THAT SOMETHING CAN BE DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR OUR PUBLIC COMMENT, NEXT BACK OUT TO ZOOM, RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS.

GOOD EVENING COUNCILMEMBERS, MY NAME IS JAY AND I LIVE ON 7224 STROUT STREET.

I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE OF STROUT. IT IS CRUMBLING AND

HAS LARGE POTHOLES AND DRIVERS SWERVE INTO OPPOSING LANES, CYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS ARE PUT IN RISK. EMERGENCY VEHICLES LOSE TIME NAVIGATING THE

SURFACE THAT SHOULD BE RELIABLE AND EVERY DAY RESIDENTS ABSORB THE COST,

VEHICLE DAMAGE, ALIGNMENT REPAIRS AND SIMPLE STRESS OF NAVIGATING WHAT SHOULD BE THE SAFEST STRETCH OF ROAD WE USE. THE STREET AND NEIGHBORHOOD

ARE GETTING ADDITIONAL USE DUE TO THE CONGESTION ON STATE HIGHWAY NEAR STROUT AND MORE ADUs IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT INCREASES THE USE OF THE STREET. IT IS NOT ABOUT INCONVENIENCE IT IS PUBLIC POLICY, SAFETY, INFRASTRUCTURE RESPONSIBILITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. STREETS ARE THE CITY MAINTAINS, WHEN THEY FAIL IT SENDS A MESSAGE. ABOUT NEGLECT AND PRIORITIES.

THERE ARE MANY COMPETING NEEDS AND LIMITED RESOURCES, TIMELY REPAIR IS MORE COST-EFFECTIVE. EVERY YEAR IS DELAYED IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE AND MORE DISRUPTIVE. IT IS AN EQUITY ISSUE, RESIDENTIAL STREETS DESERVE THE SAME

ATTENTION AND CARE AS MAIN ROADS, PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THIS STREET PAY TAXES AND RAISE FAMILIES AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY. THEY SHOULD FEEL SAFE

DRIVING OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY AND WALKING ON THEIR STREETS, THEY ARE ASKING FOR SOMETHING FUNDAMENTAL. A ROAD THAT IS SAFE, FUNCTIONAL, MAINTAINED WITH THE SAME CARE AND RESPECT OF ALL PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU HAVE 15 SECONDS.

PRIORITIZE THIS STREET. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. OLIVER CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF.

YEP, UNMUTED
CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN, YEAH.

A QUICK POINT, THE LAST GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE, AGAIN, THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITH THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE UNDERGROUND PLUMBING. YOU KNOW, SEWER AND WATER SUPPLY AND SO ON. AND OF COURSE THE ROAD SURFACE

OVER THE TOP OF THAT COMPOUNDED BY THE FACT THAT WE ARE HAVING MORE AND MORE ADUs SQUEEZED IN. IT IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER. STROUT, I KNOW IT WELL, IT IS AROUND THE CORNER FROM WHERE I LIVE. THIS IS, THIS IS A VERY BIG PROBLEM, WE OVERLOAD THE ROADS WITH MORE AND MORE PEOPLE LIVING IN ADUs AND CARS AND

SO ON IT IS GOING TO DAMAGE THE ROAD SURFACE THAT DAMAGES THE INFRASTRUCTURE UNDERNEATH. IT NEEDS TO BE REVISITED VERY, VERY CAREFULLY OR THIS IS GOING TO GET WORSE AND WORSE. THAT WAS MY POINT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, OLIVER FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, CHAMBERS, ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT?
MAYOR McLEWIS, MY NAME IS NICHOLAS, I AM A RESIDENT OF SEBASTOPOL AND LIVED AT 7223STROUT STREET FOR 10 YEARS. OUR LITTLE STREET IS OFTEN USED AS A BYPASS

FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN A HURRY TO LEAVE THE MAIN THOROUGHFARES THROUGH TOWN. THE INCREASED TRAFFIC ON STROUT STREET HIGHLIGHTED THE NEED FOR REBUILDING THE ROADWAY. THE CITY REPAIRED THIS ROADWAY EACH YEAR FOR 10 Agenda Item Number 2
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YEARS, REPEATEDLY REMATCHING IT IS TO A POINT YOU CAN NO LONGER RECOGNIZE THE ORIGINAL SURFACE. REBUILDING THE ROADWAY IT IS NOT OVERKILL. PATCHING

TREATS THE SYMPTOMS, BEFORE WE REBUILD MAKING IT SAFER AND MORE RELIABLE FOR EVERYBODY. I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS SUBJECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, NEXT BACK OUT TO ZOOM. IF THERE IS

ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, BACK TO CHAMBERS. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT,PLEASE?

HELLO, MY NAME IS JOAN, MY HUSBAND AND I OWN A HOUSE ON SOUTH STROUT STREET AND LIVED THERE FOR MANY YEARS, SINCE 2004. I JUST WANTED TO ADD MY VOICE TO

MY NEIGHBORS AND ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO APPROVE FUNDING FOR THEREPAVING IT

IS JUST ONE BLOCK LONG, A NUMBER OF YOU NEVER HEARD OF IT BEFORE AND IT GETTING QUITE A LOT OF USE AS OTHERS HAVE SAID. RIGHT THERE BY SAFEWAY AND

WHAT USED TO BE RITE AID AND THE LIBRARY AND IT IS RIGHT NEAR DOWNTOWN AND IT

DOES GET A LOT OF USE AND AS A CYCLIST MYSELF AS WELL AS A CAR DRIVER, IT

REALLY IS HAZARDOUS FOR CYCLISTS AND MOTOR VEHICLES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, NEXT BACK OUT TO ZOOM IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM. RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE. BACK TO CHAMBERS. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS. YOU HAVE MADE A PUBLIC COMMENT. NO, SORRY. ANYONE WHO HAS NOT MADE ONE AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE ON THIS ITEM.

I HAVE THE GENTLEMAN. OKAY. YOU CAN. PLEASE GO AHEAD AND GO UP TO THEPODIUM.

HI, GOOD EVENING, I'M LIL, I LIVE AT THE CORNER OF WESTERN AVENUE AND SOUTH STREET. MY HUSBAND AND I AND OUR FAMILY WE HAVE LIVED THERE FOR JUST LIKE 16 YEARS NOW. AND, OVER THIS TIME WE WATCHED THE CONTINUAL BREAK DOWN OF OUR STREETS. IT IS REALLY SAD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS SO FRUSTRATING LIVING ON THAT CORNER IS EVERY TUESDAY MORNING. EVERY TUESDAY MORNING IS THE STREET SWEEPER. AND I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SOME ANALYSIS OF THAT. THEY

COME UP WITH SOME DEVICE THAT IS MORE EFFECTIVE OR THAT YOU JUST STOP THE SERVICE ALL TOGETHER. IF WE WASH OUR WINDOWS ON OUR HOME OR ON OUR CAR OR WE CLEAN OUR CARS, IT LASTS ABOUT ONE DAY. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT IS AN EXPENSE THAT IS INEVITABLE. I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THESE

FUNDS THAT ARE PUTTING TO -- AND PUT IT TOWARDS THE COST OF REDOING THE STREETS INSTEAD. WE DON'T NEED THE STREET SWEEPER. PERHAPS PUBLIC EMPLOYEES PEOPLE THAT NEED JOBS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT COULD HAND SWEEP IT. I DON'T KNOW, JUST AN IDEA. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I CALL TODAY TO YOUR ATTENTION IT IS EQUALLY, NOT QUITE EQUALLY BUT IT, TOO IS A BIG PROBLEM ON OUR STREET.

CLOUDS OF DUST DROOLING DOWN EVERY TUESDAY, IT IS LIKE OH. IT IS RIDICULOUSLY LOUD. THANK YOU FOR COMING AND THANKS FOR YOUR ATTENTION THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS DRAKE SADLER. THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL FOR RECOGNIZING THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WHO LIVED HERE BEFORE US. I JUST WANT TO BEGIN BY ACKNOWLEDGING COUNCIL FOR THAT. I THINK CLEARLY CITY STAFF AND

RESIDENTS HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR REPAIR TO THE DEPLORABLE CONDITION THAT EXISTS ON STROUT STREET. IT HAS BECOME A VERY BUSY THOROUGHFARE. JUST REALLY IN THE LAST HALF DECADE. MAINLY BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE TRAFFIC NOW ON 116 AND HIGHWAY 12. SO, IT IS A GREATER PROBLEM. I WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL NOT TO TABLE THIS MOTION AS WAS SUGGESTED EARLIER. BUT RATHER

TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF THIS EVENING AND TO MOVE FORWARD

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NOT AN EASY TASK. CITY HAS LIMITED RESOURCES BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO THESE MATTERS. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU, DRAKE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT BACK OUT TO ZOOM ANYONE

ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT TO RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, BACK TO CHAMBERS. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. IF ANYONE SEES A BUG LAND ON MY HEAD LET ME KNOW.

IF I CAN CLARIFY ONE ITEM BEFORE YOU GO BACK INTO DISCUSSION. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF OUR CIP BUDGETING RIGHT NOW. SO, THE INTENT AND I AM SORRY IF IT WAS

CONFUSING INCLUDING THE OTHER STREETS, WE WANT TO DO THOSE, TOO, THE NEXT PROJECT FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND OUR CIP IS IMPROVED. WE ARE HOPING TO DO ALL OF

THESE STREETS THIS CALENDAR YEAR, THIS FIRST PACKAGE AND THEN, FUNDING LIMITING OR FUNDING WILLING HOW MANY TO DO NEXT YEAR IN SEPTEMBER.

ALL RIGHT. I RECOGNIZE EVERYONE HAS COMMENTS AND I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AND I WILL TAKE AN ANSWER. I WILL THROW IT OUT THERE. I WAS JUST WONDERING, I SHOULD OF ASKED IT PREVIOUSLY. WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THE

SPENDING, AS PART OF MY YES VOTE FOR MEASURE U IT WAS ON COUNCIL AGREEING TO SPEND 40% ON INFRASTRUCTURE. BACK IN 2024. WHERE ARE WE AT? WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE WE AT? I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT AS WE GO ALONG. I WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE WHILE WE DO OUR COMMENTS AND STUFF. SOMEONE CAN LET US KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THAT.

GO AHEAD. PART OF MY FRUSTRATIONS WERE EARLIER IT IS RARE WE GET SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC. I FEEL BAD BECAUSE THIS, THIS, THIS ALL, I AM NOT OKAY WITH.

BECAUSE, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A SCIENTIFIC PLAN AND ANALYSIS. IF WE WERE TO VOTE FOR THIS. I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF HAVING IT BE WHOEVER CAN SHOW UP IN A ROOM. A LOT OF REASONS IN AN ELDER COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENT EMAIL OR IN PUBLIC. I WANT A SCIENTIFIC METHOD. SO, WHAT I DID HEAR FROM ONE GENTLEMAN IS, I WANT THERE TO BE A SCIENTIFIC BASIS. IS IT PCI? I AM HEARING FROM STAFF, IT IS NOT. I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF MOVING AHEAD. WHAT I AM

IN FAVOR OF IS HELPING THESE PEOPLE GET THEIR NEEDS MET BY HAVING IT COME BACK

IN A MONTH WITH STAFF BEING ABLE TO SITE TO A SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS SO EVERYONE

IN THE COMMUNITY, AGAIN, DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY COME HERE CAN UNDERSTAND WHY WE VOTED TO SPEND MONEY ON ONE STREET OR TWO STREETS. RIGHT NOW, THIS DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. I AM VOTING FOR A CONTINUATION FOR AN ANALYSIS THAT EVERYONE IN THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THE RESIDENTS FOR SHOWING UP. THIS IS HOW WE GET THINGS DONE. PEOPLE SHOW UP, TALK TO US. YOU ARE HELPING US TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE. AND, SO, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR SHOWING UP. MY HOPE IS THAT

WE CAN GET ALL OF THESE STREETS DONE WITHIN THE YEAR AS OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR JUST INDICATED THAT WOULD BE LIKELY. LAST YEAR WE BUDGETED $1

MILLION FOR HALF FOR POTHOLES AND THEN FOR REPAVING, LIKELY WE CAN DO THE

SAME NEXT YEAR, MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN PICK THE THREE STREETS NOW, AND THEN

DO THE OTHER ONES, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AWAY IN JULY WHEN THE BUDGET IS IS APROVED. THE BUDGET -- WE CAN DO THIS RIGHT NOW. AGREE WITH THAT, WE ARE -- WE ALREADY AGREED TO IT ALLOCATING SO MUCH TOWARDS ROADS. THIS IS SOMETHING WE AGREED SEVERAL YEARS AGO. SO, ANY WAY --
I WOULD BE WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH STROUT STREET. I DID NOT VOTE FOR IT THE LAST TIME IT CAME BEFORE US. I DON'T THINK IT IS A PRIORITY STREET. I DRIVE IT EVERY SINGLE DAY. I GO ACROSS. A KNOW A FORMER COUNCILMEMBER WHO GOES UP AND AROUND INSTEAD OF DODGING THROUGH TRAFFIC. MANY PEOPLE DO DO IT. I DODGED ACROSS. SOMEBODY WENT AROUND. SO, FOR ME, THAT IS NOT A RIGHT AT STREET. IT IS A SHORTCUT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE HAVE ANOTHER OPTION. SO, I HAVE -- I CAN NOT ALLOCATE $250,000 AND MAKE IT A PRIORITY. -- SORRY I DID NOT REMEMBER, I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE STREET NAMES AND WHERE THEY ARE. NOW I KNOW WHERE IT IS. IT IS OBVIOUSLY IT SOUNDS LIKE THE WORST STREET. I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE WORST STREETS. AND THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THESE Agenda Item Number 2
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OTHER STREETS AND HAVE SOME ADVISEMENT. PALM WAS BROUGHT UP, GOT ON THIS LIST BY COUNCILMEMBER MENTIONING IT. BUT IT IS NOT A PRIORITY STREET FOR ME. I

WOULD BE WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD ON STROUT FOR ME
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I WOULD LIKE TO DO MINE. I HAVE A QUESTION. EAST SIDE AND SOUTH. THEY ARE CONNECTED. I WALKED ALL OF THEM. NO, NO, WE CAN NOT HAVE -- SORRY, I AM ASKING CITY STAFF. WE CAN NOT HAVE PARTICIPATION.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT. IT IS LIKE A HORSESHOE. SOUTH AND EAST SIDE AND WESTERN.

YES. IF YOU ARE CHOOSING ONE HOW DO YOU CHOOSE WHERE IT ENDS? IT IS TRICKY TO SAY.

I AM CURIOUS BECAUSE I WALKED THEM ALL. HOW -- I BELIEVE IN OUR PAVEMENT SYSTEM WHERE, I FORGET THE NAME OF THE STREET. IT COMES INTO PERPENDICULAR TO

SOUTH THAT IS WHERE SOUTH STARTS AND CARRIES TO THE BEND TO GO AROUND TO

EASTERN
GOT IT. OKAY.

I JUST WANTED MY OWN COMMENTS HERE. I HAVE WALKED ALL OF THEM. AND I

REMEMBER EVEN WHEN I WAS RUNNING, WALKING ON EAST SIDE THINKING MY GOODNESS IT IS LIKE A COW PATH. SO MUCH GRAVEL AND DIRT. PERSONALLY I WOULD

LIKE TO SEE US MOVING FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE STROU IT, AND PALM. I -- STROUT AND PALM. I BROUGHT IT UP. I SEE PEOPLE LEFT OF CENTER EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BALANCE OF RESIDENTIAL AND THEN OUR MOST USED STREETS THAT EVERYBODY IS USING. AND, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT -- I

SEE PEOPLE, I LIVE JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM PALM AND I SEE PEOPLE EVERY DAY IN THE MORNING GOING LEFT OF CENTER, LEFT OF CENTER, LEFT OF CENTER. THE RESIDENT

THAT LIVES THERE, IT LOOKS BETTER BECAUSE HE PUNCHED THIS ASPHALT HIMSELF AND FILLS THOSE HOLES. I HAVE SEEN HIM DO IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. HE IS ACTUALLY SPENDING HIS OWN MONEY TO FIX OUR ROADS. SO, I PERSONALLY, TONIGHT WOULD LIKE

TO ADVOCATE FOR STROUT, JUST THAT LITTLE SECTION OF PALM AND THEN THE EAST SIDE AREA AND JUST BECAUSE OF MY OWN EXPERIENCE. THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. WHAT ABOUT EAST SIDE OR SOUTH OR -- I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT. AS FAR AS EAST SIDE OR SOUTH. WHICH ONE DID YOU SAY IS -- I THINK, THEY SEEM LIKE IT IS -- ONE IS 8 AND ONE IS 6.

THAT RATING IS SUBJECTIVE. DEPENDS ON THE PERSON THAT COMES TO SEE IT. NOT SO MUCH THAT IT IS 18. THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME.

AND THE LENGTH OF THEM?
I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO WITH YOU THAT.

WELL, THAT IS WHERE I AM AT TONIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER -- I MEAN. VICE MAYOR.

I HAVE SEEN IT. IT IS REALLY QUITE A MESS AND WE HAVE HAD A LETTER FROM ALL OF THE RESIDENTS. PALM STREET, ACTUALLY, IT WAS SUPPORTED NOT JUST BY OUR MAYOR BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ASKED FOR PALM STREET TO BE REDONE. THAT WAS NOT, THAT WAS NOT RECENTLY. IT WAS WITHIN THE LAST TWO CAREERS WE HEARD

FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT -- LAST TWO YEARS, WE HEARD FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TODAY. SOUTH AND EAST SIDE ARE CONNECTED THAT SHOULD BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME RATHER THAN DOING THOSE SEPARATELY. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE, RIGHT? YOU HAVE YOUR EQUIPMENT AND ALL OF THAT. IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THEM AT THE SAME TIME? COULD WE COMBINE SOUTH AND EAST SIDE? THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING AS ONE STREET.

IT PROBABLY IS OVER OUR CURRENT CIP BUDGET FOR '25-'26. WHAT WE COULD LOOK TO

DO IF YOU, IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO PACKAGE A LARGER BUNCH OF STREETS IS SPEND MORE OF OUR '25-'26 DOING A DESIGN FOR FIVE STREETS, SOME OF THE '25-'26

MONEY PUSHED FORWARD INTO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET WE CAN DO THEM AS A LARGER CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU TO DO IT THAT WAY? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL OF THE STREETS DONE. IF WE CAN GET SOME STARTED NOW AND THEN GET THE REST STARTED IN JULY WHEN WE APPROVED BUDGET.

GO AHEAD.

SO, YOU SAID -- THAT, THAT EAST SIDE AND SOUTH SIDE WERE KIND OF CONNECTED LIKE A HORSESHOE.

NO, EAST SIDE AND STROUT ARE PARALLEL. STROUT IS NOWHERE NEAR SOUTH.

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OKAY. IT IS OVER BY -- BUT THEY ARE ALL ON THAT SIDE OF THE CITY.

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OVER BY HIGH STREET. YES. THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN. YES. I GOT TO HAVE A MAP IN FRONT OF ME.

OKAY. THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

DID ANYONE, WAS THAT ENOUGH TIME TO FIND THE ANSWER TO THESPENDING? LET ME JUST SHARE THIS OVERVIEW. YOU CAN HAVE A BETTER PICTURE FOR YOU TO SEE. FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. WE WENT FOR THAT. TAX AND WHERE WE ARE AT WITHTHAT.

SO, THIS IS THE MEASURE U OVERVIEW. ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE YOU HAVE ALL OF THE REVENUE FOR '24-'25 AND THEN '25-'26, AND THEN '26-'27. AND 40% OF THE POLICY, THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS BASED ON THOSE PROJECTED AND ACTUAL REVENUES. IN '25-'26 THE COUNCIL ALLOCATED MONEY AS YOU CAN SEE THAT $800,000 IS BEING PAID FOR BY THESE PROJECTS. AND THE ROSE COLOR AND THE PROJECTS ARE NOT FINISHED BY JUNE OF 2026. THEY ARE CARRIED FORWARD INTO 2026--- 2026-2027. THERE IS MONEY FOR DIG OUT AND REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENT, TOGETHER. AND, THERE ARE THE OTHER PROJECTS AND FOR '26-'27, SOME OF THOSE WE CARRY OVER. YOUR POLICY IS INTACT AS FAR AS THE 40% OF MEASURE U REVENUE GOING TOWARDS THE STREET.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SORRY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ABIDING BY THE POLICY THAT I FOUGHT SO HARD FOR TO SPEND ON INFRASTRUCTURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COMMENTS NOT QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD.

I JUST, I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THIS IDEA OF HAVING A STUDY BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE ROADS HAVE ALREADY BEEN EVALUATED. SO, I AM WONDERING IF COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN THAT.

I DID NOT SAY STUDY, ANALYSIS. READING THIS I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO WALK OUT

AND JUSTIFY A VOTE FOR ALL OF THESE PEOPLE HERE THEY ALL CAME HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEIR STREET IS THE WORST. I DON'T HAVE AN ANALYSIS.

WHAT I HEARD WE ARE NOT JUST DOING PCI. TO ME IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. I HEARD THAT YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCING. IN MY MIND WHEN YOU APPLY A BALANCING TEST YOU APPLY FACTORS. YOU JUST DON'T LIST ONE OF THE FACTORS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WROTE AN EMAIL, RIGHT? NOT EVERYBODY HERE IN

THIS CITY IS THE THIRD ELDEST CITY IN THE COUNTY HAS THE ABILITY TO TAKE THE TIME TYPE AN EMAIL AND COME IN HERE. I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BASIS TO JUSTIFY EXPENDING THIS LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY WITH NO ANALYSIS. NOT A STUDY, I KNOW OVERALL CONDITION. I JUST AM MISSING THE ANALYSIS IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO ARGUE. WHEN WE COME BACK WITH THE PROJECT THAT IS IN '26-'27, THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO PACKAGE TOGETHER. THE PAVEMENT ANALYSIS PLAN. THAT RECOMMENDS THE SURFACE LEVEL TREATMENTS ON STREETS THAT HAVE A MID-LEVEL PCI. AND THE MUNICIPAL COMES TO EXTEND THE PAVEMENT LIFE. AND GETTING FEDERAL GRANT MONEYFOR. AND USING THE MONEY, WHICH WE WOULD HAVE FULL JURISDICTION OVER HOW WE SPEND ON THE VERY BAD STREETS.

I APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST NEED AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD.

THAT IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND, OBJECTIVE STANDARD IS A PCI. DOING ANYTHING

BEYOND A PCI, THAT IS WHERE IT IS ALL GETTING MURKY TO ME AND I AM NOT ALL RIGHT WITH IT. THOSE ARE MY VOTES AND HOW I WILL VOTE FOR TONIGHT.

WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT IS FOR THE LOW PCI STREETS.

ANYTHING UNDER 10 IS A REBUILD. IT IS BAD.

OKAY. FOLLOWING THAT LOGIC, HOW MANY STREETS CAN WE GET FOR THE CHUNK OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL FOR THIS TIME PERIOD? IS IT THREE? IF SO, LIST THE THREE WORST PCIs SO THAT EVERYONE HERE AND PEOPLE WATCHING THE RECORDING CAN UNDERSTAND HOW WE WENT THROUGH THIS ANALYSIS.

YES. I CAN PULL UP, WORKING ON PULLING UP WHAT THE PCI IS IF WE ARE ONLY

LOOKING AT PCI AND NOT OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS OR LIKE PALM AVENUE THAT IS A THOROUGHFARE.

I ALREADY SAID I AM WILLING TO SUPPORT STROUT. NAMED THE WORST STREET IN TOWN. PALM IS NOT. BY THE STANDARD THAT WOULD BE THE WORST PCI. I CAN NOT JUSTIFY AUTHORIZING $225,000 FOR PALM WHEN IT IS NOT THE WORST STREET. IT IS NOT,

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DON'T LIKE HOW BAD THAT STREET IS THAT YOU CAN DRIVE ON A GOOD STREET JUST A LITTLE FURTHER. SO, I AM NOT SUPPORTING PALM TONIGHT. I MIGHT BE CONVINCED TO

SUPPORT STROUT BASED ON PCI AND GET A RECOMMENDATION FOR WHAT OTHER STREETS WE SHOULD CREATE A PLAN FOR. BECAUSE PEOPLE MENTION TODAY TWO

YEARS AGO AND A COLLEAGUE BROUGHT IT UP IS NOT REASON ENOUGH FOR ME TO SUPPORT A SPENDING ALLOWANCE OF $225,000 FOR THAT STREET.

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AND BECAUSE I AM THE ONE WHO BRINGS IT UP ALL OF THE TIME. IT IS A STREET THAT ALL OF OUR, IT IS TRAVERSED EVERY DAY. REFLECTION OF WHO WE ARE IN MY MIND. IT IS A BAD STREET WHERE EVERYONE GOES LEFT OF CENTER. A STREET THAT IS USED CONSISTENTLY TO CUT ACROSS BETWEEN PETALUMA AND MAIN. ALL OF OUR VISITORS SEE THAT STREET. IN MY MIND WE HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND THE MAIN USED AREAS. I KNOW FANON IS BAD. I HAVE BEEN ON ALL OF THESE STREETS, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT. I DO BELIEVE IN DATA AND, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVE

IN WHAT WE ARE DOING BUT IT IS LOOKING AT FINDING THAT BALANCE BETWEEN ALL OF OUR STREETS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED. LET'S BE FRANK. THESE STREETS ARE NEGLECTED FOR YEARS. THIS IS MY ONLY FOURTH YEAR ON THE COUNCIL AND I WAS THE NO VOTE FOR MEASURE U UNTIL MY COLLEAGUES AGREEING TO A 40% SPENDING BECAUSE IT WAS IGNORED SO LONG. THAT IS WHY I AM SITTING HERE. FRUSTRATED WITH HOW THINGS ARE NEGLECTED. THAT IS WHY. I WANT TO FIND THAT BALANCE. GO AHEAD.

I THINK THE DIFFERENCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE -- HOPEFULLY, IS A MATTER OF SIX MONTHS BETWEEN DOING ALL OF THESE STREETS. OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR SHE HOPED WE CAN GET THEM ALL DONE WITHIN THE YEAR. YOU WOULD HAVE A FIRST BATCH AND A SECOND BATCH. SO I AM WILLING TO GO WITH WHAT STAFF IS

RECOMMENDING WHICH IS STROUT, PALM AND FANON BUT I DON'T THINK I HAVE THE VOTES HERE. SO WE HAVE -- I THINK WE HAVE THE VOTES FOR STROUT.

I CAN BE ON BOARD WITH FANON.

I JUST REALLY CAN'T UNLESS IT IS LIKE SOMEBODY SAYS IT. LIKE THE STREET AND THE PCINUMBER AND WE HAVE TABLE 2. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TABLE 2 FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT? I AM LOSING THE CONTEXT HERE. I JUST

WANT TO KNOW THE WORST STREETS BY PCI AND HOW MUCH STAFF THINKS WE CAN TAKE A CHUNK OUT OF WITH THE MONEY WE HAVE FOR TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

SO, THE PCI FOR STROUT IS 3. WE RECOMMEND COMING BACK. WE DON'T HAVE THAT FULL -- I DON'T HAVE THAT FULL LIST OF THE STREETS WITH ALL OF THE PCIs. WE KNOW WHAT IT IS FOR STROUT. THAT IS ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

OKAY. THAT IS FINE. I AM FINE WITH MAKING A MOTION TO JUST DO STROUT BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATION, A 3, BRINGING ALL OF IT BACK FOR THE SAME ANALYSIS IN A MONTH TO TAKE THE GENTLEMAN'S SUGGESTION EARLIER.

I WILL SECOND THAT.

NO WAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT. I DON'T WANT TO DELAY THESE ROADS. WE HEAR HOW TERRIBLE THE ROADS ARE AND WE ARE GOING TO DELAY IT FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS OR A MONTH? I DON'T THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. I WOULD

RATHER PICK THREE STREETS AND THEN DO THAT THIS YEAR AND DO THE REST STARTING IN JULY 2026.

I AGREE AND I ALSO THINK THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE CRITERIA HOW WE

ARE DOING THAT WE SHOULD OF DONE IT AHEAD OF TIME AND ASKED THE STAFF BEFORE

WE CAME TO THE DAIS AND EVERYONE CAME AND DID NOT ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GOT HERE. THAT IS MY THOUGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

WE CAN BRING IT BACK.

CAN I ASK STAFF A QUESTION REALLY QUICK, DO YOU MIND?
SO, IF WE BROUGHT IT BACK -- BROUGHT BACK THE STREETS I SUPPORT IT. HOW FAST WOULD WE BE ABLE TO BRING IT. THE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND A FULL AN ANALYSIS. I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW BUSY THE AGENDA IS. THIS IS AN ISSUE. IT WILL LOGJAM IT AGAIN. WE HAVE A SUPER BUSY AGENDA OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF .

I AM CONFUSED. AND I VOTE THREE, FANON, EAST SIDE, SIX, PALM 8, LIGHTING 10. AND I ALSO, I SAID THIS ALREADY. WE NEED TO FACTOR IN HOW MUCH A STREET IS USED. AND PALM, USING IT AS A CUT THROUGH. I USED TO LIVE OVER IN THAT AREA. I USED TO DO THAT. USED IT AS A CUT THROUGH. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US CHOOSE THREE Agenda Item Number 2
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STREETS. AND EAST SIDE ONE STREET BECAUSE YOU WILL DO THE PAVING YOU SHOULD DO IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME. TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PCI AS A 0 TO 100. AND IF WE CAN GET ALL OF THE STREETS DONE WITHIN THE YEAR. I KNOW, WE DO NOT HAVE A IT BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR. WE HAVE SOME BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. AND THEN BUDGET THE REST FOR THE BEGINNING OF 20 -- END OF 2026. SO, I CAN'T SUPPORT JUST MOVING FORWARD WITH STROUT. I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH STROUT. I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THREE STREETS. I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT MOTION.

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AND I HAVE THE SAME, I AM THE SAME. IF YOU WANT TO DO THREE, IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT TABLE 2, WE HAVE STROUT, MARY SAID, TOTALLY ON HER REPRESENTATION, I DO NOT SEE IT LISTED, THEIR PCI. THEN, LIVE OAK AND FANON. HOW MUCH MONEY TO GET IT PASSED AND MOVING ALONG THAT IS MY COUNTERMOTION.

GO AHEAD VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN. I APPRECIATE THAT CONCESSION, OUR PUBLIC

WORKS DIRECTOR SAID LIVE OAK NEEDS TO BE DONE NEXT YEAR FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, SHE WAS RECOMMENDING -- COULD WE DO EAST SIDE AND SOUTH AS ONE? STROUT AND FANON AND LIVE OAK NEXT YEAR AND WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE? WHERE WOULD PALM BE IN ALL OF THAT AND WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE PALM? I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. LIKE THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE IN OUR CITY AND PEOPLE LEFT OF CENTER. NEIGHBORS CONTACTING ME CONSISTENTLY ABOUT IT. ELDERLY NEIGHBORS TELLING ME HOW THEY CAN NOT RIDE THEIR BIKE, NO SIDEWALK THERE. THERE IS NO MEANS FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE HATE ON PALM.

WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US WITH PALM THEN?
I DEFER TO THE COUNCIL WHICH STREETS, THEY ARE ALL UNDER 10. THEY ARE ALL IN BAD SHAPE.

AND A BIT SUBJECTIVE WITH ALL OF THE SCORES, ANYTHING UNDER 10 IS BAD CORRECT.

TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT LIVE OAK, ENGINEERING AND DESIGN FOR THAT STREET WILL BE A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE. I WOULD HAVE TO GO AND LOOK AT THAT COST JUST BECAUSE IT IS NOT, THE RIGHT AWAY IS NOT STRAIGHT. THERE ARE PLACES WHERE IT GOES UP AND DOWN AND A STEEP ENTRANCE.

CAN I CLARIFY, WE ARE LOOKING AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDS, A PUZZLE. WE ARE TRYING TO PUT IT TOGETHER TO KEEP WITHIN THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE. AND THAT IS WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR PALM AND STROUT AND ONE ADDITIONAL.

FITTING WITHIN THE PUZZLE PIECE OF THE FUNDING WE HAVE, CORRECT? CORRECT.

A BUDGET IS A BUDGET. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. I AM NOT OKAY WITH JUST SITTING HERE HAVING EVERYONE COME HERE AND LET'S TALK ABOUT IT LATER. GO AHEAD.

I AM JUST TRYING TO GET TO THREE STREETS. IF WE CAN -- IF WE CAN GET COUNCIL TO

AGREE ON STROUT, EAST SIDE SOUTH, MAKING THAT ONE STREET AND THEN FANON FOR THIS YEAR AND THEN NEXT YEAR WOULD BE LIVE OAK, PALM AND .

EAST SIDE AND SOUTHERN ARE TWO DIFFERENT STREETS.

I AM ASKING TO MERGE THOSE BECAUSE THEY ARE CONNECTED.

TERMS OF COST FOR THE-SQUARE-FOOTAGE, THE SAME COST WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR STROUT AND PALM.

SO THEY ARE $500 JUST FOR THAT?

JUST THE-SQUARE-FOOTAGE OF THE STREET IF I COMPARE THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATES I

GOT FOR PALM AND STROUT FOR THE DIFFERENT SIZED STREETS SOUTH WOULD BE ONE AND EAST SIDE WOULD BE ONE. TWO STREETS, YOU CAN DO EAST SIDE, SOUTH, AND STROUT AS A PACKAGE.

AND STILL FIT WITHIN THE BUDGET OF YOU ARE SAYING?
AND THEN, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR NEXT YEAR WOULD BE, FANON AND LIVE OAK.

AND I AM ASKING ABOUT IT, TALKING ABOUT IT FOR FOUR YEARS. GO AHEAD.

L I AM HOPING TO GET ALL OF THE STREETS DONE. CAN WE GET ALL OF THE STREETS DONE?
EVENTUALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO GET ALL OF THE STREETS DONE.

YES.

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MY OUTSTANDING THAT I NEED TO COME BACK TO, THE DESIGN COSTS FOR LIGHTING AND LIVE OAK BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE COMPLICATED. PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES WE

CAN GET ALL OF THAT PACKAGE DONE WITHIN THIS FISCAL YEAR AND NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

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SO, DO WE HAVE SUPPORT FOR STROUT, EAST SIDE AND SOUTH? I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS TO TALK ABOUT PALM AND STROUT. WE DID NOT GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT TIME FOR THE OTHER STREETS.

SO THAT WAS NOT CONTEMPLATED BY WHAT WAS NOTICED TODAY.

SO THE THIRD ITEM THAT CAME UP EARLIER IS REALLY NOT PART OF THIS. THAT IS WHY I

WAS ASKING EARLIER FOR SOMEONE TO CLARIFY WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE BEGINNING. TALKING ABOUT IT ALL OF THIS TIME AND NOT --

I MEAN IT IS CONTEMPLATED IN THE SENSE THAT IT IS -- FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BUT

IN TERMS OF APPROVING FOR TONIGHT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT IS NOT WHAT WAS IN

THE STAFF REPORT AND WHAT WAS NOTICED FOR TODAY
RIGHT. I AM JUST SAYING I ASKED EARLIER. WHAT EXACTLY SHOULD WE BE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY.

I THOUGHT WE WERE BEING ASKED TO PICK A THIRD STREET TONIGHT.

WE WERE. THAT IS INCORRECT. WE SHOULD NOT BE DOING THAT. I WOULD EXPECT SOMEONE TO TELL US THAT HALF AN HOUR AGO.

WE CAN DISCUSS THE FUTURE PRIORITIES BUT ACTUALLY APPROVING TONIGHT IT IS NOT WHAT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT.

OKAY.

OKAY. SO, OUR CHOICE IS, BASICALLY, DECIDE ON PALM AND STROUT AND GIVE DIRECTION ON THAT AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE IS FOR FUTURE.

I STILL NEED A SECOND. UNLESS ZOLLMAN RESCINDED HIS FIRST. THOSE ARE THE ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT IS STROUT AND PALM TONIGHT. I AM STILL WILLING TO MOVE STROUT

FORWARD AND COME BACK FOR PCI ON ADDITIONAL STREETS
YES, THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. YES. BY WAY OF THE MOTION IT WAS TO APPROVE

STROUT BASED ON WHAT WE CAN VOTE ON AND YOU SECONDED IT SO, YES, WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD ON A VOTE. AND WITH DIRECTION FOR THE PCI ITEMS.

YES.

I JUST WANT TO ASK FOR CLARITY. FOR FUTURE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW EARLIER I READ WHAT WE WERE BEING ASKED TO DO. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET THE PROPER GUIDANCE IN THE BEGINNING NOT TO WASTE TIME THINKING A DECISION COULD BE MADE.

TO CLARIFY THE DIRECTION IS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT FUTURE STREET RECONSTRUCTION. IT IS ALL FRUITFUL TOWARDS THAT END. IN TERMS OF DECIDING

TONIGHT, ABOUT PALM AVENUE AND STROUT STREET THAT IS WHAT IS BEING CONSIDERED AND THEN ADDING ON OTHER STREETS TO BE APPROVED TONIGHT IS NOT.

DID YOU WANT -- DID YOU HAVE -- SO, THE MOTION IS JUST TO SUPPORT STROUT AND NOT PALM?
YES. HMM.

WOULD YOU LIKE MOW TO CALL THE O LIKE TO CALL THE MOTION.

SO MOVED FOR THE DESIGN AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR STROUT STREET. [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] MOTION PASSES, 4-1. COUNCIL CARTER ABSENT. WE WILL GET THERE TO ALL OF YOUR STREETS. THAT IS THE PLAN. SORRY.

NO, IT IS OKAY. I WILL BRING BEFORE MORE ITEMS AND GET TO SIT HERE AGAIN AND TALK ABOUT IT ALL OVER AGAIN. DOES EVERYONE WANT A BREAK? HOW ARE WE DOING? I WANT TO ASK EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

YES, THANK YOU.

NOT CLEAR WITH COLLEAGUES.

I WOULD RATHER POWER THROUGH IT?
YOU ARE OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

MOST CONFUSING.

HEY, NICK. GOOD SEEING YOU.

WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 12. FOLKS. WE ARE GOING TO -- VICE MAYOR.

MOVING ALONG.

DO WE WANT TO TAKE FIVE MINUTES?
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SURE, ALL RIGHT, FIVE MINUTES. .

ARE WE OKAY TO START? I APOLOGIZE. I DID NOT LOOK AT MY WATCH WHEN I SAID FIVE MINUTES. I LOST TRACK OF TIME.

I THINK IT HAS BEEN FIVE MINUTES.

OKAY. I JUST DID NOT WANT TO START TOO SOON. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE TO ITEM

12. CONSIDERATION FOR WAIVER FOR EVENT, APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL, FEE WAIVER HAS BEEN REQUESTED IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,000. THE RESPONSIBLE DEPARTMENT IS

PUBLIC WORKS
THANK YOU, THIS ITEM IS TO CONSIDER WAVING UP TO $15,000 OF COST FOR THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL THAT IS THIS WEEKEND. REQUEST MADE BY THE CHAMBER OF

COMMERCE TO WAVE STAFF TIME FOR THE POLICE, PUBLIC WORKS AND MATERIAL AS WELL AS THE SPECIAL EVENT FEES. IT IS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

OH, OKAY. THAT IS IT? ALL RIGHT. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.

I AM NOT SURE IF I AM SEEING IT. IS THIS THE SAME AMOUNT WE WAIVED LAST YEAR? YES.

THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR
YES, IT IS.

GO AHEAD MADE ME THINK, TOO, IN PAST YEARS WE SAID IF THEY MADE A PROFIT, I FORGET THE WORDS, THEY WOULD GIVE SOME OF THE MONEY BACK. AND EACH YEAR I THINK THEY SAY THEY DON'T DO IT. BUT, THIS YEAR ARE WE GOING TO THINK ABOUT HAVING THAT?
THEY DID CLARIFY THEY HAD DONE IT THE YEAR, WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT IT. THAT IS

THE YEAR WE WERE REALLY IN DIRE STRAITS AND LAST YEAR IT CAME INTO QUESTION AND AFTER SHE CAME UP AND SAID THAT THEY HAD GIVEN SOME MONEYS BACK. I CAN NOT REMEMBER EXACTLY. WHAT OUR AGREEMENT IS. IF IT RAINS THEY CAN LOSE MONEY. BUT, YEAH. WE ARE STILL, WE HAVE THE SALES TAX NOW. WE ARE NOT IN THE BEST SHAPE, STILL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO THERE. I WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS AT THEIR FULL ASK THIS YEAR. I DO THINK IT IS THE BIGGEST THING WE DO EACH YEAR. AND I FEEL VERY LUCKY THAT WE HAVE SO MANY VOLUNTEERS THATPARTICIPATE.

I HAVE A QUESTION. MAYBE I AM READING SOMETHING WRONG HERE. ON THIS ITEM IT SAYS $15,000 BUT ON THE STAFF REPORT IT IS A$13,320?
THEY ASKED FOR UP TO $15,000. THE PRICING IN HERE IS BASED ON WHAT WE THINK WE ARE GOING TO SPEND BUT IT COULD BE MORE THAN THAT.

OKAY. I WANTED TO CLARIFY SO WE KNOW. SO YOU ARE ASKING FOR UP TO $15,000.

FLEXIBILITY.

OKAY. AND ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE. WE HAVE THE STAFF FOR THAT, IS THAT CORRECT?
THAT IS CORRECT.

WE DO?
WE DO. THAT WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM
THAT IS CORRECT.

DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, TOO. SORT OF LIKE IN OUR DISCUSSION LAST TIME. THE APPLICATION WAS COMPLETED BACK IN JANUARY OF '26. WE ARE, WELL, THE FESTIVAL IS THIS WEEKEND. WHY IS IT SO LATE ON THE AGENDA WHEN THE APPLICATION WAS COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED. ALL OF THE DATES ARE JANUARY 19th? I WAS NOT AWARE OF IT UNTIL THE BEGINNING OF APRIL?

I WAS NOT AWARE OF IT UNTIL I SAW THE REQUEST COME INTO OUR OFFICE UNTIL APRIL THAT IS WHEN THEY SUBMITTED IT?
OKAY. OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THAT. EVEN THOUGH THEY SUBMIT THE APPLICATION THE REQUEST MAY NOT HAVE COME IN UNTIL YESTERDAY. THE APPLICATION CAN PROCESS IT AND THE REQUEST, THE FEES, COME IN AT A LATER TIME. MONTHS AFTER THE APPLICATION COMES IN. OKAY. IT WAS NOT RUN BY THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. A MEETING THIS MONDAY AND IT WAS CANCELED. IT DID NOT GET HEARD BY THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.

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OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
GO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR REQUEST OF WAIVER OF FEES, TWO MINUTE COMMENT, CHAMBERS FIRST AND THEN ZOOM. NONE IN CHAMBERS, KYLE CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF PLEASE
YES, I CAN. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
NO YOU CAN LET ME KNOW. GO AHEAD, IT IS NOT AN ARGUMENT AGAINST APPLE BLOSSOM. IT IS VALUED, LONG STANDING EVENT. TIED TO SEBASTOPOL IDENTITY AND I AGREE WITH THAT. THE CONCERN IS THE STRUCTURE OF CITY SUPPORT. ESPECIALLY WHETHER IT COMES TO POLICE SERVICES. THE CITY IS SUSPENDED ITS PRIOR FEE WAIVER,

SPONSORSHIP, BENEFIT, GRANT POLICIES, IT CONTINUES TO RECEIVE REQUESTS FOR SUPPORT. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE CAREFUL NOT TO CREATE A

DEFAULT EXPECTATION THAT THE GENERAL FUND WILL ABSORB THE OPERATIONAL COSTS OF MAJOR EVENTS YEAR AFTER YEAR. IN MY VIEW, EVENT ORGANIZERS SHOULD

BE EXPECTED TO DO EVERYTHING REASONABLY POSSIBLE TO REDUCE THE NEED FOR CITY POLICE SERVICES. THIS ITEM ATTACHMENT SHOW THAT THE CITY EVENT PROCESS

ASSUMES APAPTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MUNICIPAL SERVICES AND PER-- ALLOW POLICE, FIRE, PUBLIC WORKS NEEDED. IT IS IMPORTANT IN PRINCIPAL AND I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL SHOULD PRESERVE IT. MOST EVENTS CAN AND SHOULD PROVIDE MUCH MORE

OF THEIR OWN OPERATIONAL SUPPORT THROUGH PLANNING, VOLUNTEERS, PRIVATE STAFFING, TRAINED MARSHALS, AND PRIVATE SECURITY WHERE APPROPRIATE. POLICE

SHOULD NOT BECOME THE DEFAULT STAFFING MODEL FOR COMMUNITY FESTIVALS, LIMITED TO THE FUNCTIONS THAT SWORN OFFICERS CAN ONLY PERFORM. MANAGING

THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, TRAFFIC CONTROL, EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT FUNCTIONS THAT CAN NOT BE DELEGATED. IF THAT IS NECESSARY THEN THE ORGANIZERS SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY FOR THEM. ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT

WHEN THE STAFF REPORT ITSELF DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN THE FEE PERMIT AND THE CITY OPERATIONAL SUPPORT.
15 SECONDS.

IT IS ABOUT $2,000 FOR DIRECT FEE WAIVER AND THE REST IS STAFF TIME AND MATERIALS. ALSO STATING WAVING THE CHARGES REDUCES THE CITY ABILITY TO

RECOVER COSTS, AGAIN, IT IS -- IF YOU LOOK AT THE LION SHARE OF THESE COSTS IT IS -- KYLE THAT IS TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS IN THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS, SEEING NONE, BACK OUT TO ZOOM. MICHAEL CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

I AM UNMUTED.

YES, SO THIS IS, VERY LIGHTHEARTED BUT I THINK RATHER THAN HAVING POLICE SERVICES DO THE SECURITY AT THE FAIR MAYBE THEY CAN USE LIVE COWS. THAT WAY IT WILL BE SEBASTOPOL WAY OF BEEFING UP SECURITY. GET IT.

THANK YOU.

IT IS A JOKE. OKAY. ANY WAYS. LIGHTHEARTED. BYE.

THANK YOU MICHAEL FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE IN CHAMBERS -- CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE? MYRIAH?
YES, ARE YOU THERE?
CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY?
YES. I CAN. SO, A FEW THINGS, FIRST, I COULD NOT HELP BUT HEAR THE EARLIER COMMENT ABOUT WHAT IS SEXY AND WHAT IS NOT. APPLE BLOSSOM MAY BE THE FUN PART, THE BIG EVENT BUT IT IS PART OF THE ENGINE. THE PEOPLE THAT COME FOR THE

FESTIVAL DRIVE ON THE ROAD, SHOP IN THE STORES, AND CONTRIBUTE TO WHAT FIXES THE POTHOLES, THAT IS ADDRESSING THE COMMENT THAT I THINK KYLE MADE. AND, I PREPARED A STATEMENT EARLIER. I WILL READ IT. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THE

WAIVER OF POLICE AND PUBLIC WORKS FEE FOR THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL AND PARADE. 80th ANNUAL. THE LONGEST STANDING EVENT AND CORNERSTONE OF THE COMMUNITY. OUT LASTED ECONOMIC CYCLES, LEADERSHIP CHANGES AND SHIFTING

PRIORITIES BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS SOMETHING BIGGER THAN A MOMENT, IT REPRESENTS SEBASTOPOL. SINCE THE CITY'S FISCAL CRISIS IN 2022, YOUR SUPPORT HAS BEEN ESSENTIAL. APPLE BLOSSOM IS THE CHAMBERS ONLY ANNUAL FUNDRAISER AND Agenda Item Number 2
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SUSTAINS OUR ORGANIZATION AND VISITOR CENTER YEAR AROUND. IT IS WORK THAT SUPPORTS THE ECONOMIC VIE TALLITY OF THE TOWN. THEY CONTINUE BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPPORTED AND PRIORITIZED. WHEN SUPPORT WAIVERS SO DOES THE FUTURE OF TRADITIONS LIKE THIS AND THEY ARE SO IMPORTANT. WE ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED

PARTNERSHIP TONIGHT NOT JUST FOR THIS YEAR BUT FOR WHAT THIS EVENT REPRESENTS LONG-TERM FOR SEBASTOPOL. AND IF I HAVE ANOTHER MOMENT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS ABOUT US NOT PAYING THE MONEY BACK. HE VOTED

AGAINST SUPPORT FOR APPLE BLOSSOM LAST YEAR BASED ON THE FACT THAT HE BELIEVED WE DID NOT PAY THE MONEY BACK AND WE PAID IT BACK. SO, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY.

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YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS.

THAT IS ALL I NEED TO SAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

SEEING NONE, BACK OUT TO ZOOM, ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON MYRIAH, OR WHATEVER.

WELL, TWO COMMENTS. THE FEE FOR POLICE. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND FOLKS THAT LIVED HERE IN 2018 THAT WE REALLY NEEDED OUR POLICE SUPPORT. MY SON GREW UP

HERE AND HIS CLASSMATES THERE WAS A STABBING AND A SHOOTING THAT YEAR AFTER APPLE BLOSSOM THAT WAS A SAD SITUATION. AND, SO, YOU NEVER KNOW WITH A BIG FESTIVAL. A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT. SOMETIMES I THINK WE FORGET ABOUT THESE THINGS.

ALSO, I WANTED TO BRING UP BECAUSE I WORK FOR THE WINDSOR CHAMBER AND VISITOR CENTER FOR A SHORT TIME. THEIR COUNCIL SUPPORTS THEM WITH ABOUT, I BELIEVE, $80,000 CITY MONEY FOR THE WORK THEY DO AROUND CITY EVENTS. AND, SO,

FOR ME TO SUPPORT THIS, WHEN SO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY LOVE THE EVENT AND FEE WAIVERS UP TO $15,000 IT IS A SMALL PRICE TO PAY FOR THE CHAMBER HOLDING THIS EVENT AND ORGANIZING IT FOR US. SO, I AM, I WILL BE IN SUPPORT AND APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THIS EVENT BRINGS TO THE COMMUNITY.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MYRIAH, IS SHE STILL ON THERE?
I AM HERE.

I WAS JUST WONDERING JUST FROM -- I AM JUST THINKING HOW MUCH WORK IT IS TO

GET SPONSORS AND EVERYTHING AND I AM SAYING THIS BECAUSE I HAVE MY LARGEST

EVENT OF THE YEAR AS A NONPROFIT TOMORROW AND ALL OF THE WORK I HAD TO DO TO GET SPONSORS. MINE IS IN MARIN AND GETTING THEM TO SUPPORT US. I AM JUST

WONDER FIGURE SOME PEOPLE, THIS TIME OF THE YEAR ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW, IT IS

HARD FOR NONPROFITS TO FUND THINGS, CAN YOU SHARE THE SPONSORS YOU HAVE OR HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET FOR CONTEXT FOR PEOPLE?
YEAH.

WHY IT IS IMPORTANT. I AM TRYING TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY.

YES, ABSOLUTELY. YES. THANK YOU, FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT. AND THERE ARE SO MANY BUSINESSES THAT HAVE STEPPED UP TO HELP US. THIS WILL BE THE SECOND YEAR THAT STERLING AND PUMP IS A STAGE SPONSOR. IT IS A SIGNIFICANT SPONSORSHIP. THE BARLOW WILL BE IN YEAR THREE OF BEING A PREMIERE SPONSOR. SEBASTOPOL HARDWARE, WE HAVE THE FAIRFIELD INN. YOU KNOW, I COULD GO ON BUT REACHING OUT FOR SPONSORSHIPS IS CHALLENGING. WE KNOW THE BUSINESSES ARE CHALLENGED AT THE MOMENT. WHEN THEY DO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE EFFORT TO SUPPORT US AND, YOU KNOW, TO ME, IT JUST SHOWS THEY REALLY SEE THE VALUE OF THIS FESTIVAL. NOT JUST ABOUT THE WEEKEND OF BUT DEFINES THE TOWN AND 80 YEARS AND IT WAS BEFORE I WAS EVER HERE OR ALIVE AND YOU GUYS, TOO. IT WILL BE HERE LONG AFTER US. SO, WHILE I AM HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY THIS IS, I HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE HONOR OF HAVING THE JOB TO SUPPORT THIS FESTIVAL. AND I AM DO MY BEST AND CONTINUE TO ASK THE COMMUNITY STEP UP AND THE CITY AS WELL. I WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT QUESTION. BUT, DID I ANSWER IT, JILL?
THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR.

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SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MYRIAH AND THE CHAMBER FOR DOING THIS FOR OUR CITY. I SUPPORT THE REQUEST FOR WAIVER. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE

APPROVE THE WAIVER OF THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FEES, CITY STAFF TIME AND MATERIAL FOR THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL AND PARADE IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,000.

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IF I COULD BEFORE THERE IS ACTUALLY A SECOND. IS THERE INTEREST TO ACTUALLY

HAVE THE SAME PROVISION IF THERE IS A PROFIT THAT SOME PART OF THAT WILL BE SENT BACK TO THE CITY? WE STILL ARE UNDER FISCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY. IS THERE INTEREST IN HAVING THAT BE PART OF THAT?
I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. IF THERE IS, YEAH.

OKAY. THEN I WILL SECOND THAT UNLESS HINTON WAS GOING TO SECOND.

I DID NOT MAKE THAT PART OF THE MOTION. I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. THIS IS A FUNDRAISER FOR THECHAMBER. DO WE NOT REMEMBER THE DETAILS FROM BEFORE?
I CAN TELL YOU.

I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU CAN PROBABLY.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT AMOUNT BUT THE DEAL WAS WE WOULD PAY PACK THE

MATERIALS COST AND WE GOT AN INVOICE FROM PUBLIC WORKS ON THE MATERIALS COST. IT WAS NOT THE LABOR, IT WAS MATERIALS. SO, AND, YEAH. IF THAT IS THE AGREEMENT, WE WILL COMMIT TO IT AND FOLLOW-THROUGH. I WOULD LOVE IF THE SUPPORT WAS 100% AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY IT BACK TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

KEEP IN MIND THAT, THE OTHER THREE EVENTS THAT WE, MAJOR EVENTS WE PLAN, TREE

LIGHTING, THE COMMUNITY AWARDS, MOVIE NIGHTS, THESE ARE ALL FREE TO THE COMMUNITY AND THESE ARE THINGS WE SPEND TIME ON. ANY INCOME WE MAKE FROM

THIS FESTIVAL IF WE CAN HOLD ON TO IT IS HELPFUL FOR ALL OF THE OTHER EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THERE IS THAT.

WHAT IS THE MATERIAL AMOUNT? $2800.

YES. IT IS AT THE TOP. $2855.34.

GOT IT.

WE ARE FOUR PEOPLE HERE. IF WE DON'T HAVE THREE IN AGREEMENT THEN IT DOES NOT GO FORWARD. I AM WONDERING WHERE -- SO, COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN MADE THE

PROPOSAL HE WOULD LIKE TO RECOUP SOME OF THE MONEY AND THE MAYOR AGREED I WILL SECOND MAURE. APPROVE UP TO $15,000 IN FEES WITHOUT THE REPAYMENT PLAN.

I FEEL COMFORTABLE AS THEY DO HOLD TWO OTHER EVENTS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THEY DON'T ASK US FOR SUBSIDIES ON THOSE. I AM WILLING TO SECOND COUNCILMEMBER MAURER OR VICE MAYOR MAURER PROPOSAL. FURTHER DISCUSSION OR I WILL CALL THE MOTION?
THIS IS A STRUGGLE. WE ARE STILL IN A FISCAL EMERGENCY AND WE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT -- IT IS SUCH A STRUGGLE FOR ME. I RUN A NONPROFIT. I UNDERSTAND HOW CHALLENGING IT IS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT IS, WE ARE TASKED WITH BALANCING FOR OUR CITIZENS. WE JUST SAID WE COULD NOT AFFORD TO FIX ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE. PERSONALLY I SEE IT AS A COMPROMISE REQUESTING THE $2800 RIGHT NOW. SO, PERSONALLY, I AM -- I WOULD PREFER TO -- NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR 100%. BUT FOR THE MATERIALS FEE LIKE WE DID LAST TIME.

OKAY. IN THE INTEREST OF GETTING SOMETHING PASSED. I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE IF THE CHAMBER IS ABLE TO REFUND THE CITY THE $2855.34 IN MATERIAL AND RENTALS THEY CAN DO THAT. IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?
YEAH.

OKAY. THAT NEEDS TO BE SECONDED.

I SECOND.

I WILL SECOND IT.

GO AHEAD.

SO, I JUST WANT TO BE SURE I AM CLEAR. THE FIRST MOTION. THE FIRST MOTION WAS TO APPROVE THE $15,000 NOT TO EXCEED WITH NO REPAYMENT.

I AMENDED THAT. THEN, THE SECOND WAS COUNCILMEMBER HINTON WHO, YOU -- OKAY. THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE. WITHDRAWALLING YOUR SECOND.

THAT IS WHAT I WAS -- WITHDRAWING YOUR SECOND.

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MOVE BY VICE MAYOR MAURER AND SECONDED BY ZOLLMAN TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL EVENT FEES WAIVER FOR APPLE BLOSSOM PARADE IN THE EVENT NOT TO EXCEED $15,000 AND CHAMBER TO REFUND THE MATERIALS FEES UP TO $2855. [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] Agenda Item Number 2
MOTION PASSES, 4-1. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER ABSENT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 13. THANK YOU. MYRIAH. NUMBER 13,

CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION WAVING BUDGET COMMITTEE REVIEW FOR SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FEE WAIVERS OF $1500 INCLUSIVE OF THE $1,000 DEPOSITORY LESS. IT WAS BROUGHT FORTH BY COUNCILMEMBER HINTON AND MYSELF AND PUBLIC

WORKS IS THE RESPONSIBLE DEPARTMENT
GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT. AS NOTE TODAY IS BROUGHT FORWARD FROM COUNCILMEMBER HINTON AND McLEWIS. I WANT TO CLARIFY THE AGENDA ITEM, $2,000 OR LESS NOT $1500. THAT IS WHAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD. IT IS, THE

RECOMMENDATION IS TO WAVE ANY PERMIT APPLICATION FROM A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION OF $2,000 OR LESS FOR PERMIT FEES THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE REFUNDABLE DEPOSITS. SO, THOSE ITEMS WOULD NOT GO TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW. THOSE ITEMS WOULD COME STRAIGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION. SO, THAT IS THE ITEM BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL

TONIGHT TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FEES IF THEY GO UP TO $2,000 THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THE REFUNDABLE DEPOSITS AND STRAIGHT TO CITY COUNCIL AND NOT A BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE MOVERS, WAS THE WHOLE IDEA OF BRINGING IT FORTH JUST

BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID SOMETHING WITH APPROVING IT OR NOT APPROVING IT BEFORE THE EVENT? BECAUSE, PERSONALLY, I LIKE HAVING THE

BUDGET COMMITTEE AND A POLICY OF ANY EXPENDITURE OF CITY DOLLARS, A DOLLAR OR MORE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET HEARING. BUDGET PROCESS AND TRUSTING MY TWO COLLEAGUES TO SORT IT ALL OUT. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE CARVING IT OUT IF IT IS JUST THE TIMING? THEN I AM NOT ENTIRELY SURE THAT OUTWEIGHS THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THE BUDGET COMMITTEE CONSIDER ALL EXPENDITURES.

DID YOU WANT .

SO, I BROUGHT IT FORTH BECAUSE A, SAVES STAFF TIME. IT EXPEDITES THE SITUATION.

IT IS SUCH A SMALL DROP IN THE BUCKET OF THE NONPROFITS THAT MAKE REQUESTS OF UNDER $2,000 OR LESS WITH OUR MULTIMILLION BUDGETS. I JUST DON'T SEE WHY WE

HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT EXTRA STEP OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE WHICH WE NEVER

USED TO AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE CAN AVOID A LOT OF RED TAPE AND ADDING IT TO THE AGENDA. WE PUT IN THERE THAT THEY WOULD STILL, THE NONPROFIT WOULD STILL HAVE TO PUT A $1,000 DEPOSIT ON FILE IN CASE DAMAGE WAS DONE. I RECALL WHEN MY

SON PLAYED LITTLE LEAGUE THERE WAS DAMAGE DONE TO THE APPLE BLOSSOM FESTIVAL. PEOPLE NEED THE DEPOSIT. TO PROTECT US AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND

REPLACEMENT IF NEEDED
AND IT IS SPECIFIC TO THE NONPROFITS, RIGHT?
YEAH.

AND IN MY MIND THE REASON THAT I SECONDED IT OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW,

BRINGING IT FORTH WAS JUST TRYING TO REMOVE SOME OF THE RED TAPE BUREAUCRACY OF APPROVING THINGS AFTER THE FACT. PEOPLE ARE DOING THE EVENTS

YET WE ARE, YOU KNOW, LOGJAMMING THINGS AND NOT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE APPROVING AFTER AN EVENT HAPPENED. SO, IN MY MIND JUST AN ATTEMPT TO REDUCE THE BUREAUCRACY THAT SO MANY PEOPLE DESPISE GOVERNMENT FOR. AND ALSO, IN

LOOKING AT THE AMOUNTS WHEN YOU LOOK IN HERE AT THE SPREADSHEET, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF ITEMS THAT ARE IMPACTED IT JUST MADE SENSE TO ME AS WELL. GO AHEAD VICE MAYOR.

WE ARE STILL IN QUESTIONS, RIGHT?
YEAH.

OKAY, MY QUESTION IS TO CITY MANAGER. THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST

COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE THE EGG HUNT HAD ALREADY HAPPENED AND THEY WERE GETTING THEN A REFUND. MY QUESTION IS, WOULD THIS HAVE, IF WE THIS POLICY IN

PLACE, WOULD THAT HAVE CHANGED THE TIMING ON WHETHER OR NOT THE CLUB Agenda Item Number 2
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WOULD HAVE HAD TO EVEN APPLY? DO YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING? WOULD THEY

HAVE PAID AND THEN HAD TO REPLY FOR A REFUND IF IT HAD NOT GONE TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE OR NOT?
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SO, SORRY. THE TIMING IS DEPENDING WHEN THEY SUBMIT THE APPLICATION. THEN WHETHER THEY SUBMIT THE WAIVER, AS WE JUST SAW WITH APPLE BLOSSOM. THE

APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED IN JANUARY BUT THE WAIVER REQUEST DID NOT COME IN UNTIL MUCH LATER. WHAT THERE IS STATING IS THAT ANYTHING UNDER, YOU KNOW,

SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT COMES TO COUNCIL IT IS NOT REALLY THE TIMING AS FAR AS LIKE

WHETHER THEY PAY FOR IT, SOME OF THEM DON'T PAY AND THEN THEY GET THAT WE

WAIVED IT UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THE COUNCIL MADE A DECISION AND THEN WE MADE THEM PAY. THAT KIONSE PAID BEFORE THE EVENT. IT IS A MIXED BAG WHEN THEY COME IN. DO I THINK THAT THE TIMING CHANGES? IT IS STREAMLINED. IT IS UP TO THERE -- I

DON'T THINK IT IS THE TIMING, THERE ARE SOME THAT COME IN A MONTH BEFORE THE EVENT AS WELL.

IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE REQUESTS ARE UNDER THAT AMOUNT.

RIGHT. MOST OF THEM. THE HIGHEST ONES WITH THE PERMIT FEES IS THE APPLE BLOSSOM, THE PARADE, THE THIRD OF JULY FIREWORKS. THOSE ARE THE LARGE FEES.

THANK YOU, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST TO CLARIFY. THIS JUST AVOIDS IT GOING TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. EVERYTHING HAS ALWAYS COME TO CONS COUNCIL AND ALWAYS COME TO COUNCIL. JUST MISSES THAT STEP.

OKAY. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF ANY PERMIT OF $2,000 AND BELOW NOT TO GO TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AND COME DIRECTLY TO CITY COUNCIL.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, KYLE CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF PLEASE.

I THINK IT IS FUNNY TO MAKE REFERENCE TO WE NEVER USED TO DO THIS. WHETHER WE

ALSO NEVER USED TO DO THIS AND WE ENDED UP GOING BROKE AS A RESULT OF THIS

KIND OF PROCESS OF CONSTANTLY WAVING FEES FOR EVENTS HAPPENING WITHIN OUR CITY. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS WE DIDN'T USED TO ALWAYS DO. PART OF

THE REASON WE HAVE A BUDGET COMMITTEE AND ALLOCATING THESE TYPES OF DECISIONS TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE IS TO NOT BE BROKE. THIS IDEA THAT SOMEHOW

BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH KIWANIS THAT WE WANT TO LOWER THE AMOUNT OF BUREAUCRACY, WORK ON THE EFFICIENCY. THE IDEA THAT AN EVENT THAT HAPPENS

EVERY SINGLE YEAR, PREVIOUSLY ASKED FOR A WAIVER IS NOT GOING THROUGH UNTIL

A MONTH UNTIL, NOW YOU ARE MAKING THE APPROVAL WITHIN DAYS OF THE ACTUAL EVENT? RIGHT, WORK ON THAT RATHER THAN TRYING TO GIVE YOURSELF LOOPHOLES TO TRY TO GET THINGS APPROVED FASTER. THINK THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE. YOU HAVE A BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE YOU SHOULD BE USING. WHY WAS THAT MEETING CANCELED THIS WEEK? LET'S WORK ON THAT IN TERMS OF EFFICIENTLY. LET'S WORK ON THAT IN TERMS OF REDUCING BUREAUCRACY. HOW IS THE EFFICIENCY OF THOSE MEETINGS GOING? ARE YOU MAKING PROGRESS? HOW ARE THINGS GOING WITH THE COST ALLOCATION FOR ENTERPRISE. A LOT OF WAYS TO REDUCE BUREAUCRACY, SPENDING MORE MONEY WITHOUT PUBLIC SCRUTINY IS NOT THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU, KYLE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS, ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE, BACK OUT TO ZOOM. ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM. RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, BACK AT THE DAIS. GO AHEAD.

I WILL JUST STATE UP FRONT. I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS. I TRUST MY COLLEAGUES THAT SIT ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. NO RHYME OR REASON DOLLAR SPENT, YOU WANT A DOLLAR YOU BETTER PLAN YOUR LIFE ACCORDINGLY. IT WILL HAVE TO GO BEFORE BUDGET. AND THEN BUDGET WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL COUNCIL. AND I WILL DEFER TO THEM. THEY HAVE THE BIGGER PICTURE. I AM NOT SUPPORTING THIS. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

GO AHEAD VICE MAYOR.

IN A WAY, TO ME, IT DOES NOT MATTER -- IT DOES AND IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE VETTED BY THE FULL COUNCIL ANY WAY. I AM ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. SO WE HAVE REVIEWED THINGS, THEY DON'T -- USUALLY THEY DON'T TAKE Agenda Item Number 2
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A LOT OF TIME. HOWEVER, YOU NEVER KNOW. THERE COULD BE CIRCUMSTANCES OF AN

ASK THAT YOU WOULD REALLY WANT TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE TO TWO COUNCILMEMBERS AND THE BUDGET COMMITTEE LOOK AT BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL. THAT IS WHY WE ARE THERE. YOU JUST NEVER KNOW. USUALLY A LOT OF THIS IS ROUTINE. BUT, YOU NEVER KNOW. LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE DID NOT REVIEW THE APPLE BLOSSOM PARADE REQUEST. THAT WAS SUBSTANTIAL ASK. ANY WAY. THAT IS IT.

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OKAY. THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE BUT I DO NOT REMEMBER IT ANY COMMENTS?
I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. I BROUGHT IT FORTH. I THINK THAT IT DOES REDUCE RED

TAPE AND A LOT OF THESE ARE STANDARD AND THEY STILL GO BEFORE THE FULL COUNCIL. SO, WITH THAT I AM GOING TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE WAIVER OF

BUDGET COMMITTEE REVIEW FOR SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FEES FOR NONPROFITS FOR $2,000 OR LESS.

I WILL SECOND THAT.

MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER HINTON AND SECONDED BY MAYOR McLEWIS TO APPROVE THE WAIVING OF THE PERMIT PROCESS OF $2,000 OR LESS. [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] MOTION IS 2-2, MOTION FAILS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14. CONSIDERATION OF

AMENDMENT TO CITY COUNCIL PROTOCOL FOR DEFINITION OF SUBSTANTIVE STAFF TIME FOR AGENDA ITEMS PROPOSED BY CITY COUNCILMEMBERS. COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN AND MYSELF BROUGHT THIS FURTHER. AS WELL AS OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

THIS ITEM CAME UP AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING STAFF TIME. HOW

MUCH TAF TIME IS ACCEPTABLE BEFORE IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FULL COUNCIL DISCUSSION. WHEN THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSED IT THEY HAD DISCUSSED FOUR AND FIVE HOURS. THE REQUEST IS FIVE HOURS EVEN THOUGH IT DID

STATE FORWARD THE INTENTION IS THAT THE FOURTH HOUR THAT THE CITY

COUNCILMEMBER WOULD BE NOTIFIED THAT THERE IS ONE HOUR REMAINING OF STAFF TIME. IF THIS PROPOSAL WENT FORWARD. SO, THE REQUEST FROM THE COMMITTEE FROM THE TWO COUNCILMEMBERS BRINGING IT FORWARD WAS TO HAVE IT FIVE TOTAL. THAT IS CUMULATIVE. THAT IS ALL STAFF TIME, CUMULATIVE. FIVE HOURS, FOURTH HOUR NOTIFICATION TO THE CITY COUNCILMEMBER. THAT IS IF THERE IS ONE BRINGING IT

FORWARD OR TWO COUNCILMEMBERS BRINGING AN ITEM FORWARD, NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN THAT. SO, THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION COMING FROM THE TWO COUNCILMEMBERS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD MORE. FIVE TOTAL WITH THAT FORWARD NUMBER BEING THE CUT OFF.

I CAN GIVE MY PERSPECTIVE IF YOU WANT. MY THOUGHT WAS WITH THE FIVE HOURS WAS THAT KNOWING THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES FOR A STAFF REPORT. EVEN DOING A STAFF REPORT IT COULD TAKE UP TO TWO HOURS. ANOTHER DEPARTMENT THAT YOU

HAVE TO WORK WITH, I MEAN, AN HOUR TO TWO HOURS SEEMS REASONABLE THAT IT WOULD TAKE THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. AND THEN, THEN, IT WAS MY THOUGHT THAT, YOU

KNOW, AT THE FOUR HOUR MARK, BECAUSE IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THERE IS A POLICY NOW FOR AS FAR AS COMMUNICATING MORE ABOUT THE HOURS SPENT. AT THE

FOUR HOUR I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A MARKER, A GOOD POINT FOR THE COUNCILMEMBERS TO BE NOTIFIED. LOOK, YOU ARE REACHING THE END HERE. IT

SEEMED TO ME, JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST THOSE COUPLE THINGS PROCEDURAL JUST TO GET THOSE FORWARD COULD TAKE A COUPLE HOURS AND THEN IF IT IS A SPECIALTY ITEM.

THAT IS MY REASONING WITH THE FIVE HOURS. I KNOW FIVE HOURS IS A LOT OF TIME.

SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE STAFF SPENDING TWO HOURS ON AN ITEM OR THREE

HOURS ON AN ITEM AND THEY CAN NOT GET IT DONE AND NOTHING COMES FORWARD

WE ARE JUST CONSTANTLY SPINNING OUR WHEELS LIKE SPENDING TIME ON THINGS THAT ARE NOT COMPLETED AND COMING TO COUNCIL. DOES THAT MAKE -- DID I EXPLAIN THAT CORRECT? IF THEY SPENT THREE HOURS, HAVE THREE HOURS, SPEND THREE HOURS, NOT

COMPLETED NOW IT IS ON THE COUNCILMEMBERS TO FIGURE IT OUT OR IT DOES NOT COME FORWARD. NOW WE SPENT THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. I DON'T KNOW, THAT IS MY REASONING WITH THAT. OPEN TO DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. IT SEEMED LIKE A REASONABLE AMOUNT.

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I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE LOGIC ON THAT. FIVE HOURS MIGHT BE TOO MUCH. BUT, AT LEAST THERE IS A DUE PROCESS PART. WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE EXACT HOURS. I DO LIKE THE MAYOR'S THOUGHT OF HAVING AN HOUR WARNING OR MAYBE IT WAS MARY'S .

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IT WAS MINE.

TO HAVE AN HOUR WARNING, WITHY ALL HAVE THINGS GOING ON IN OUR LIFE. WE DO

THINK IT IS ONLY GOING TO TAKE A PHONE CALL TO ANN BUT IF IT JUST BLOWS OUT AND A WARNING WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

VICE MAYOR?

SO, WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED, FOR SOME REASON I GOT IT IN MY HEAD THAT YOU COULD NOT TAKE MORE THAN AN HOUR OF STAFF TIME. IF YOU WANTED TO BRING

FORWARD AN AGENDA ITEM YOU HAD TO HAVE IT REALLY DEVELOPED BEFORE YOU ASKED STAFF TO DO ANYTHING ON IT. SO, WAS THAT PART OF A PRIOR POLICY? DID I JUST MAKE THAT UP? WHERE DID I GET THAT? DO YOU KNOW?
THERE WAS NO. THERE IS NO PRIOR POLICY. THERE WAS AN UNWRITTEN RULE, IF YOU PERCEIVE IT. THE UNWRITTEN RULE I WENT BY IN THE PAST AND TOLD IT WAS LIKE THREE HOURS. SO, ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIAL AND RETURN TO COUNCIL. AGAIN, NOTHING WRITTEN IN THAT. THAT JUST ALWAYS WAS PAST PRACTICE. NOTHING FORMALLY WRITTEN DOWN AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT?

SO, THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME USED BEFORE AN ITEM NEEDS TO COME BACK. KYLE CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF PLEASE? YES, CAN. THANK YOU. THERE IS THE TIMER.

YES. I CAN.

I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE. I

UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS JUST MOST RECENT MEETING, LIKE A KNEE JERK REACTION TO SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN A RECENT MEETING. IT WAS UNFORTUNATE. BUT AS WE LEARNED IT WAS NOT THE FAULT OF THE COUNCILMEMBER.

IT WAS LIKELY THE FAULT OF THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A PAID CONTRACTOR WHO CAN VERY EASILY INFLATE THE AMOUNT OF HOURS NEEDED TO DO THE RESEARCH. NO OVERSIGHT. WE HAVE MARY MAKING THE SUGGESTION THAT SHE WAS NOT AWARE THAT TIME HAD TAKEN PLACE. WE HAVE STRUCTURAL ISSUES IN PLACE THAT YOU ARE KNEE JERK REACTING AND TYING YOUR OWN HANDS TO ACCESS TO STAFF TIME. IF YOU JUST

LOOK AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES REPORT HOW VAGUE IT IS TO MAKE A

SUGGESTION IN THAT REPORT CONTINUE TO PROCESS NEW RECORDS ACT, THESE HAVE EXTENSIVE REVIEW OF RECORDS, RIGHT? THIS IS A NARRATIVE THAT THIS NORMAL

ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE JOB IS EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF TIME. YOU ARE GOING TO GET NO SIR BY STAFF THAT DOES NOT WANT TO DO THE WORK FOR YOU. BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING. I CAN TELL YOU, OH, IT IS GOING TO TAKE FIVE HOURS, SORRY, WE WILL NOT DO IT. OR, OH, SORRY, THAT TOOK FOUR HOURS, YOU HAVE AN HOUR LEFT, THERE IS NO OVERSIGHT. AS WE HAVE SEEN, NO OVERSIGHT ON HOW MUCH TIME PEOPLE ARE SPENDING ON WORK. DON'T TIE YOUR

HANDS BECAUSE OF FAILED MANAGEMENT TO BE ABLE TO OVERSIGHT THAT THEIR PAID CONTRACTOR WAS BILLING YOU FOR 20 HOURS FOR EXPLORATION ON A COUNCILMEMBER'S TOPIC. RATHER LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT

EMPLOYEE AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR MANAGER TO MAKE SURE THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN INSTEAD OF TRYING TO TIE THE HANDS OF CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.

THANK YOU KYLE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS.

SEEING NONE, GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE BACK AT THE DAIS FOR COMMENTS. GO AHEAD.

SO, I THINK THAT FIVE HOURS FOR ONE COUNCILMEMBER TO MOVE AN AGENDA ITEM

THAT IS THEIR OWN PET PROJECT AND NOT HAVE SUPPORT OF THE FULL COUNCIL YET, SEEMS VERY EXCESSIVE TO ME. I GUESS I WAS COMING TO A PLACE THAT YOU COULD NOT TAKE AN HOUR OF STAFF TIME OR JUST AN HOUR. YOU PRETTY MUCH HAD TO HAVE

WHATEVER ISSUE YOU WERE WORKING ON WELL DEVELOPED BEFORE YOU BROUGHT IT Agenda Item Number 2
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TO STAFF. BECAUSE IT DID NOT HAVE FULL SUPPORT YET. I LOOK BACK ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD WAS MOBILE HOME, RENT, STABILIZATION, THAT WAS A COMPLICATED ISSUE. I KNOW WE HAD FEEDBACK AT THE TIME. LARRY WAS KNOWLEDGE BELIEVE ABOUT IT. DID NOT HAVE SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL BEFORE I BROUGHT THAT ITEM TO STAFF. SO, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOURS THAT MIGHT OF TAKEN. IT WAS A COMPLICATED ISSUE. AND A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE RESIDENTS. BUT, I WANT TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT ISSUE? AND, THE TIME THAT ONE ITEM TOOK? Agenda Item Number 2

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOBILE HOME PARK ORDINANCE WHEN THE CITY ATTORNEY BROUGHT IT FORWARD?
I BROUGHT THAT FORWARD.

RIGHT, BUT IT WAS THROUGH THE FORMER CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY AT THE TIME.

WORKED ON IT, YEAH.

I COULD NOT TELL YOU HOW MUCH TIME HE WORKED ON IT. OFF HAND.

OKAY. I AM TRYING TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBER. GETTING THAT MUCH TIME ON AN AGENDA NOT APPROVED BY THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. TO ME IT FEELS LIKE THERE WAS A PROBLEM W, THIS IS A SUGGESTION TO FIX THE PROBLEM BUT WE NEVER HAD THAT PROBLEM IN THE PAST.

AND, SO, I AM I AM NOT SURE I AM GOING TO SUPPORT HAVING A SET AMOUNT, WAY MORE THAN I THOUGHT WAS EVEN ALLOWED BEFORE.

GO AHEAD. I AGREE. I THINK IT IS A CAUTIONARY TALE. I KNOW COUNCILMEMBERS THAT PROBABLY HAVE USED MORE THAN 20 HOURS AND ESPECIALLY THIS PROPOSAL IS, IT WILL NOT COUNT FOR TWO COUNCILMEMBERS WORKING ON A PROJECT. I KNOW

WHETHER I WORKED WITH A FORMER MAYOR, DIANA, ON SOME OF THE SALES TAX

STUFF, I MEAN WE DID A LOT OF WORK OURSELVES BUT I CAN NOT SAY WITH CERTAINTY

THAT WE DID NOT EXCEED -- I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH STAFF TIME BECAUSE WE NEVER LOOKED AT IT THAT WAY. SO I DON'T WANT TO KNEE JERK ON THIS EITHER AND IT

SEEMS LIKE WE CONTINUE TO SET A LOT OF THESE RULES IN PLACE AND THERE IS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. AGAIN, I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT HAPPENED WITH COUNCILMEMBER. I FEEL LIKE HE ADMITTED AND APOLOGIZED THAT HE DID NOT KNOW.

MISSTEPPED AND OUR CITY MANAGER SAID IT WOULD NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. AND, SO, I

DON'T FEEL LIKE I WANT TO PUT A POLICY IN PLACE THAT REALLY TIES OUR HANDS AND THEN WE MIGHT HAVE TO ADJUST DOWN THE ROAD. I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT TONIGHT.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR INTERM CITY MANAGER. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE PROCESS CHANGE SO IT DOES NOT HAPPENAGAIN?

INTERNAL CONTROLS, I SPOKEN TO ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS, NOW ANY ITEM HAS TO BE RUN THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. WE WILL TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME WILL BE INVOLVED. WE WILL GET THAT INFORMATION UP FRONT. RATHER THAN CONTINUING TO GO ON. I DO THINK THE ISSUE NOT LAY FAULT EITHER WAY. ONE OF THE

ISSUES IS THAT HAVING A POLICY OF NOT HAVING THAT COMMUNICATION WITH THAT

DIRECTOR OF THAT DEPARTMENT INFORMING CITY HALL THAT WE HAD THAT AMOUNT OF HOURS. SO, THAT HAS DONE DIRECTED. ANYTHING THAT GOES ABOVE AN HOUR NOW COMES TO ME AND WE DISCUSS IF IT MOVES FORWARD.

SO, WHAT IS THE PROCESS THEN? IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING THEN -- THEN, WE ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT COULD GET UP TO 20 HOURS OR 30 HOURS OR 40 HOURS. WHAT IS THE REMEDY TO AVOID WHAT HAPPENED?
IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAYS SHOULD NOT HAVE THIS MANY HOURS.

A COUPLE WAYS TO LOOK AT IT. ONE THING IS TO GO BASED ON PAST PRACTICE, RIGHT?

MORE THAN A FEW HOURS OF STAFF TIME TO BE DOING SOMETHING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL WE WOULD BRING IT FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT IS HOW WE HAVE DONE IT. UNWRITTEN RULE WE ALWAYS ADHERED TO. THIS IS AN ANOMALY. TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WERE IN THE MIDDLE IT AND NOT SPEAKING TO EACH OTHER.

PLANNING WAS INVOLVED AND PUBLIC WORKS AND THEN BUILDING AND SO IT WAS A CONUNDRUM. THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO SAY. DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETINGS SETTING UP PROTOCOLS FOR THAT. FOR ME, TO ANALYZE IF A PROJECT IS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN A COUPLE HOURS WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND GIVE THE COUNCIL STAFF TIME TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS. 20 HOURS IS A LOT OF STAFF TIME TO GO INTO IT. IT WAS Agenda Item Number 2
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MORE ABOUT COMMUNICATION THAN IT WAS IN THE COUNCILMEMBER WHO DIDN'T Agenda Item Number 2
REALIZE WHAT THE POLICY WAS.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A POLICY.

WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY FOR HOURS, THE UNWRITTEN, THE PRACTICE IS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. IT WAS, IT WENT WELL BEYOND THAT. THE INTERNAL CONTROLS AS FAR AS CITY STAFF GOES INTO PLACE.

GO AHEAD COUNCILMEMBERZOLLMAN. [ MICROPHONE MUTED ] .

WELL, SO, WHAT I AM GOING TO SAY, HONESTLY IT DEPENDS ON THE ITEM. BECAUSE

LIKE, I WILL TELL YOU, A COUPLE ITEMS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD TO ME, LET'S TAKE THIS AGENDA ITEM. I RESEARCHED OTHER CITIES TO SEE HOW OTHER CITIES DO IT. TIME, THAT IS ABOUT HALF AN HOUR, RIGHT? AND THEN IT WAS GETTING INFORMATION, PREPARING IT AND GETTING IT OUT TO YOU, ANOTHER HALF AN HOUR. THAT IS SIMPLE AS AN HOUR OF STAFF TIME. THERE ARE OTHER MORE INVOLVED ONES WHERE WE DO

HAVE TO DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE BRINGING

FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL THAT COULD TAKE UP TO THREE HOURS, INCLUDING STAFF TIME REVIEW AS WELL. IT IS NOT, I THINK IT WILL DEPEND ON EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEM. I

CAN NOT SAY THREE HOURS, FOUR HOURS, FIVE HOURS, BECAUSE IT MAY TAKE US A LITTLE LONGER FOR AN ITEM THAT -- AN EXAMPLE. THROW ONE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. AND SAID WE WANT TO RELOOK AT THE PLAZA. WE WANT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO FOR REDOING THE LANDSCAPING, CLEANING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT INVOLVES TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. SO, A COUNCILMEMBER CAN MEET WITH TWO DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THERE IS TWO HOURS RIGHT THERE. DOES NOT BRING ANYTHING FORWARD YET. NO STAFF REPORT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT WOULD

TAKE MORE WHERE THE STAFF WOULD SAY THIS IS THE PROCESS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH. DESIGN REVIEW AND THROUGH THE PARKS COMMISSION AND THEN CITY COUNCIL. THAT COULD TAKE YOU UP TO FOUR HOURS, WHERE THE AGENDA ITEM WE DID TONIGHT WAS AN HOUR. IT IS, IT IS JUDGMENT CALL. SO, YEAH, LIMITING IT, I THINK, YOU

KNOW, I KNOW THERE IS AMBIGUITY NOT HAVING A NUMBER BUT I WOULD NOT WANT TO LIMIT IT TO ONE OR TWO HOURS, THAT TIES YOUR HANDS. BUT THEN I DON'T WANT TO GO AGAIN TO TWO HOURS. FOR ME DEPENDING WHAT THE ITEM IS [MICROPHONE MUTED ] -- STAFF KNOWING HOW TO WORK .

SO, I THINK AND ALSO AND I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO STAFF ABOUT THIS ONE YET. PUTTING THE PROTOCOL FOR TRANSPARENCY IT IS FISCAL MORE THAN A STAFF

REPORT WE CAN INCLUDE IT TOOK THREE HOURS TO PREPARE THE STAFF REPORT SO THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL IS AWARE OF HOW IT IS INVOLVED.

I ALSO THINK, WITH MY NAME ON THIS AS WELL, OPTICS OF PET PROJECTS AND

COUNCILMEMBERS DRIVING THINGS THAT ARE FOR THEIR OWN, FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL INTERESTS AND SO THEN IT IS THE QUESTION IF WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY.

OKAY, WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY BUT WE GOT INTO THIS SITUATION. I JUST -- AND, AS COUNCILMEMBERS WE, I MEAN, THE CITY MANAGERS REPORT TO US. WE HAVE THE ABILITY PUSH THE STAFF TO DO WHAT WE WANT. THERE IS A STRANGE SITUATION WHERE IT CAN GET INTO THIS. WHAT DO YOU MEAN ALL OF THIS TIME WAS SPENT ON SOMETHING. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT WAS SO PERSONAL AND SO MANY DIFFERENT QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. SO, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY THAT IS CONCERNING TO ME. AND THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD REALLY QUICKLY IS, I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING IN PLACE WITH OUR FORMER CITY MANAGER. NOT CITY MANAGER ATTORNEY BUT WASN'T THERE SOMETHING THAT WAS CHANGED?
THAT IS WHERE I CAME WITH THE THREE HOURS, THAT IS WHAT I WAS TOLD. I WENT BACK AND COULD NOT FIND THE POLICY WHERE IT STATED THAT.

URBAN LEGEND.

BUT WE DID NOT HAVE PROTOCOLS IN PLACE EITHER. WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW AS FAR AS CITY COUNCIL HANDBOOK. IT IS VERY CLEAR. WE COULD, YOU COULD TRY FOR THREE

HOURS AND WE CAN COME BACK AND SAY LIKE, YES, THIS WORKS FOR ROUTINE ITEMS, SOMETHING MORE COMPLEX?

I DON'T WANT ANY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OR TIE PEOPLE'S HANDS BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT SITUATION. I FOUND IT DISTURBING THAT HAD BEEN GOING ON

ESPECIALLY WITH CONTRACTORS AND EVERYONE ELSE SPENDING ALL OF THIS TIME ON THINGS THAT I MEAN, WE CAN ALL DO THAT. ALL HAVE OUR OWN PERSONAL THINGS, I Agenda Item Number 2
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SIT ON BOARDS AND RUN NONPROFITS AND RUN ITEMS THROUGH AND PUSH IT THROUGH.

AS THE BOSS OF ONE OF THE FIVE BOSSES OF THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF, YOU KNOW,

AND THE THING IS, THE STAFF, THEY FEEL A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE WE AS COUNCILMEMBERS ARE REQUESTING STUFF. IT IS JUST ABOUT MAKING

CERTAIN THAT ANY COUNCILMEMBER HERE UNDERSTANDS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET -- YOU CAN'T JUST RUN THINGS THROUGH AND SPEND 20 HOURS ON THINGS. I AM JUST A POLICY PERSON. IF ZOLLMAN WANTS TO TAKE IT OUT, THAT IS FINE. BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A CEILING SOMEWHERE.

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A APPRECIATION. THE WORK OF HAVING THE DISCUSSION. I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE NOT HAVING A POLICY. WE NEED TO BE MORE AWARE. WE ARE STILL UNDER FISCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY. I DON'T THINK IT IS A GOOD THING NOT TO HAVE A POLICY. YOU WANT TO THE GO WITH THREE? MARY SAID THREE. I DON'T KNOW IF THREE, IT SEEMS RESTRICTIVE TO ME. I MEAN I WAS ARGUING FOR FIVE. PERSONALLY I MEAN, EVEN IF WE CAN GET PEOPLE ON BOARD TO DO 10. IT SEEMED CRAZY TO ME. NONE OF US WERE THE WISER.

OKAY.

I JUST GOT TO SAY, I MEAN, WE HAVE HAD BIG AGENDA ITEMS THAT TAKE MORE TIME. IN 10 YEARS OF SITTING UP HERE I ONLY SEEN THIS ONE MAJOR ABUSE. IT IS JUST WE ARE

CREATING A POLICY THAT I FEEL CONFIDENT THE CITY MANAGER ASSURED ME SHE HAS HANDLED WITH INTERNALLY THAT, THAT, IT WAS A MISTAKE. SO, I WILL NOT SUPPORT A POLICY TONIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO SIT AND COMPROMISE BACK FROM FIVE TO THREE AND WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS. JUST SEEMS LIKE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OFF OF ONE BADSITUATION.

IT SEEMS LIKE COUNCILMEMBERS ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND DIFFERENT STYLES. TO ME IT COMES DOWN TO RESPECTING STAFF'S TIME. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS GOOD TO HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE SO THAT YOU KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. YOU KNOW THE RULES. IN MY MIND I THOUGHT THE POLICY WAS ONE HOUR. BUT SO FIVE HOURS JUST SOUNDS LIKE A KID IN A CANDY STORE. YOU KNOW. IT JUST DOES NOT FEEL RESPECTFUL. I KNOW WE ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE NEED DIFFERENT KINDS OF TIME. THE WAY I SEE IT, AS A COUNCILMEMBER I AM GOING TO DO

AS MUCH WORK AS POSSIBLE TO GET THAT AGENDA ITEM FULLY DEVELOPED BEFORE I BRING IT TO THE STAFF OR TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. ACCEPT FOR THE GOALS. THAT, FOR ME THAT IS DIFFERENT. IF WE ALL VOTE FOR THAT, THAT IS FIVE PEOPLE SAYING LET'S GET IT DONE. BUT, SO, YOU HAVE TO FACTOR IN THE FACT THAT IT TAKES, IT COULD TAKE AN HOUR FOR A STAFF REPORT, RIGHT? OR MORE. BUT FOR ONE COUNCILMEMBER TO GET FIVE HOURS, NO WAY I WOULD AGREE TO THAT. I WOULD AGREE WITH, YOU

KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T GET THE PREPTORY WORK LIKE AN HOUR BEFORE IT GOES TO THE

STAFF REPORT, USE AN HOUR OF STAFF'S TIME BEFORE STAFF REPORT, I WOULD AGREE TO THAT. IF YOU WANTED TO SET A POLICY. ONE HOUR OF STAFF TIME BEFORE IT GETS WRITTEN INTO A STAFF REPORT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH STAFF TIME IT WOULD TAKE.

I AM NOT PERSONALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. IT IS RESTRICTIVE. ALSO SOME OF US -- I WORK FULL TIME. I DON'T HAVE THE HOURS IN THE DAY EVERY DAY TO RESEARCH EVERY ITEM. I WORK LITERALLY THAT IS WHY I SIT HERE AND EAT DINNER I WORKED UNTIL I DROVE HERE AT 5:30. I FEEL LIKE THAT IS TOO RESPECTIVE. THAT IS WHY I WENT WITH FIVE. I WOULD BE SUPPORT OF FIVE OR 10 BUT NOT ONE OR THREE IN MY MIND. I

DON'T WANT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WHICH MEANS I -- TO EVERYONE'S POINT

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE TECHNICAL THAT COME COME FORWARD AND IT GETS COMPLICATED. AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ON HERE ARE EDUCATED IN ALL OF THE AREAS IN THE CITY AND CAN PUT IN THAT TECHNICAL TIME NOR SHOULD WE. THAT IS WHERE I AM AT. I AM OKAY WITH FIVE OR 10. ONE TO THREE SEEMS WHERE YOU HIT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES POINT IN MY MIND OR DO NONE. [MICROPHONE MUTED].
-- I AM FINE, I WILL MOVE THAT.

I WILL SECOND THAT.

OKAY. SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED BY MAYOR McLEWIS PROTOCOLS FOR DEFINITION OF SUBSTANTIAL TIME THAT IS NO MORE THAN FIVE HOURS.

C [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] MOTION IS 2-2 MOTION FAILS.

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ALL RIGHT, ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ONE NOW. IF YOU

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT IT IS TWO MINUTES, AGAIN I WILL COME IN CHAMBERS, SEEING NONE, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM. KYLE CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
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THANK YOU, AGAIN FOR WONDERFUL ENTERTAINING EVENING. A COUPLE THINGS THAT COME UP. FIRST OFF. I WOULD LOVE IF COUNCIL CAN REVISIT THE ABSENTEE COUNCILMEMBER POLICY. I THINK, TONIGHT IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHERE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A BODY OF FIVE THINGS CAN GO A LITTLE BIT UNEXPECTED. THERE HAS

BEEN MANY TIMES WHERE WE HAVE BEEN MISSING ONE OR MORE COUNCILMEMBERS

AND SOME MAY ARGUE THAT THE FREQUENCY OF SOME ABSENTEE MIGHT BE WORTH TAKING A LOOK AT. AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF A POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN. THE EXISTING POLICY IS JUST ABOUT CONSECUTIVE.

BUT THAT IS EASY TO ABUSE. THE SECOND THING THAT I WANT TO MENTION IS ABOUT MAYBE WHAT YOU WERE JUST DEBATING A LITTLE BIT. PRETTY SIMPLE, I THINK, IT IS JUST DON'T ABUSE THE SYSTEM. DON'T GO, DON'T SPEND COUNTLESS HOURS ON PET

PROJECTS, DON'T CONSTANTLY ADVOCATE FOR A PET PROJECT AND TRY TO SEND SOME SORT OF DIRECTION THAT YOUR PET PROJECT IS A CITY PRIORITY. I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A FEW EXAMPLES OF THAT. EVEN TONIGHT. THE ADVOCACY FOR PUSHING FOR

PALM AVENUE IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE WHEN WHAT WE REALLY HAVE IS TWO

MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND A BUNCH OF OTHER ACTUALLY WELL TRAVELED STREETS IN OUR CITY THAT ARE WELL BEYOND THAT. AND I THINK IF WE CAN LOOK AT

OURSELVES AS INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBERS THAT MAYBE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO

IDENTIFY WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR OURSELVESES AND IN THE

INTEREST OF OURSELVES AND NEIGHBORS RATHER THAN THE GREATER INTERESTS OF THOSE IN THE CONSTITUENCY THAT WE REPRESENT. THAT IS MY HOPE FOR YOU AS A BODY. AND THANKS AGAIN.

THANK YOU, KYLE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. SEEING NONE. BACK OUT TO ZOOM. RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED FOR THE SECOND PUBLIC PERIOD.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WE ARE AT CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF REPORTS.

WE HAVE A JOINT BUDGET COMMITY IN THE ENTERPRISE COMMITTEE MEETING ON TUESDAY AND APPLE BLOSSOM ON SATURDAY. I HAVE THE TICKETS AT CITY HALL. I WILL GIVE THOSE TO THE MAYOR FOR THE TRUCK AND THAT IS IT.

OKAY.

COUNCILMEMBERS?
I CAN GO, GO AHEAD.

CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ABOUT TICKETS?
SORRY, THE PARKING TICKET FOR THE TRUCK. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PASS FOR THE TRUCK TO BE IN THE PARADE. IT JUST HAS THE NUMBER. NOT THE TICKETS FOR THE FESTIVAL ITSELF.

OKAY, THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL REPORTS DO YOU WANT ME TO START OR YOU? GO AHEAD.

I ATTENDED THE COMMONS OPEN HOUSE. THEY HAD, I THINK, A ROOFING, A TOPPING CEREMONY AND THEY WERE SERVING FOOD AND GIVING TOURS. IT IS LOOKING GOOD.

THEY GOT ALL OF THE BUILDINGS ARE UP. AND, THERE IS, 21 OR 26 RESIDENTS WITH MANAGER'S ROOM? OR CITY MANAGER WAS THERE. I THINK IT WAS 21. A NICE OPEN AREA IN THE MIDDLE COURTYARD LIKE AND THEY LOOKED GREAT. I THINK THAT IT IS LOOKING REALLY GOOD. WENT TO THE 0 WASTE MEETING. THEY ARE TRIALING A

LIMITED USE OF AI TO HELP PEOPLE GET ANSWERS TO THEIR QUESTIONS FOR AFTER THE, LIKE, 9:00 TO 5:00. WEEKENDS AND AFTER HOURS. AND THEN, THE EARTH DAY CLEANUP

THAT WE HAD PLANNED WAS CANCELED DUE TO THE MUDDY CONDITIONS OVER IN THE LAGOONA. THAT IS IT.

ANYONE ELSE?

IN ADDITION TO THE REGULAR MEETINGS HOMELESS COALITION MEETINGS AND THE

VARIOUS SUBCOMMITTEES, THE SCORING GIVEN OUR FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION'S

CONTINUING TO MOVE POLICY AND TO DECIDE DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES FOR SHELTER OR SERVICES REMAINS AN ONGOING WORKLOAD. THANKS.

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DO YOU WANT ME TO GO?

WELL, WE JUST WENT TO MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS ALL TOGETHER AND SAW, I FORGET HIS NAME. THE POLITICAL ANALYST THAT GAVE, I THOUGHT, A VERY, REALLY INTERESTING SPEECH. I WISH HE SPOKE MORE. WE CAN SEE HIM TALK ABOUT OUR POLITICAL SCENE NATIONWIDE MORE OFTEN. THAT WAS EDUCATIONAL. AND, OF COURSE, WE HAD OUR GOAL-SETTING MEETING ALL TOGETHER A WEEK AGO. EXTRA

MEETING THAT IS IT FOR ME
OKAY. AND THEN SINCE THEN I, OF COURSE, MAYOR'S AND COUNCILMEMBERS MEETINGS AND THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE, WE HAD A MEETING ON FRIDAY. TALKING, A LOT OF CHANGES AND ALL OF THE STUFF THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN SACRAMENTO.

CHANGES EVERY DAY. WE DID NOT TAKE ANY ACTION ON ANYTHING. JUST MORE OF A WAIT AND SEE PROCESS FOR THAT. THAT IS THE ONLY UPDATE THAT I HAVE. ANYONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT. THEN, I THINK WE CAN CALL IT ADJOURNED, YEAH? OKAY, MEETING ADJOURNED, 9:14, THANK YOU, EVERYONE. [Event Concluded] Agenda Item Number 2
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