Sebastopol City Council
July 7, 2026

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, I'm sorry, go ahead. Is it too late to get that on the ballot for November?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It is not the deadline to get to Les. 1055
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the end, the beginning of August, 88 days before the election, whenever that is.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, there is a cost. We'd have… it's probably $20,000. I don't remember what it was for Measure U. 1057
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Goneup pretty significantly in the last couple years.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can Iask, what kind of difference would that make right now, and is there really a rush for it? I mean, based on… since this isn't even until 29? I mean, I'm just trying to understand. There's no… Well, we wouldn't want to pay to put it on when we don't have an election happening, correct? 1059
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Correct, that'd be expensive, but there's nothing that would run you, to the mayor's point, from doing it in 2028, or whenever. And we just have one hotel currently. Yeah, yeah. And so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We could just double what we know we got from them to understand that… that amount.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Right, we'd add the 2% and understand. Yeah, not double, but yeah, okay. All right, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I guess, what's the will of the Council as far as just with the projection? Do you want to go with, our city manager's recommendation of waiting till mid-year and assessing that? I mean, it's all projection. Okay, I just go on record that I'm against that. That's what I'm asking, everyone. Thumbs up, thumbs down. 1063
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, where's everyone at with this? 1064
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because I'm okay with waiting till… 1065
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So we have three, we have three. Just about our recommendation of waiting till mid-year before changing the projections, once the… go ahead, you say it, Mary. The reason being… I want to speak for you. Right, so the reason, you know, the request was to be made to remove the hotel from the projections. 1066
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That was my understanding of the request for these charts, removing the hotel assumption that the hotel would be in. 1067
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: my recommendation… I mean, you can remove it now, we can add it back in. I… I don't know what the direction is right now, because we… the hotel developer.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: has stated that he wants to move forward. He brought in an application, that will be going through the Planning Commission up to the City Council for a TOT rebate, which he announced at the, one of the City Council meetings previously.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, my… I personally think that that will give us a definitive answer whether ornot that hotel would be coming in or not. 1070
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It does not change this budget this year, this 5- year projection, but I think after that decision ismade, we will have amore definitive fiveyear projection based upon 1071
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the decision at the end of that… that application.

And their current tenant is up at the end of June, so I mean, they have… 1072
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: incentive to…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And are we… I mean, what's the importance of this one graph? Because we have several different options,right? Imean, this isn't guiding our principles in many ways, is it? Is it just… or is it trying to communicate to the public what the future looks like? These scenarios communicate to the public what the… 1074
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: what it looks like moving forward with a hotel, without a hotel… And we're doing all the pension. A pension without a pension. 1075
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So the request was made to remove the hotel. 1076
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: From one of them? From the projections. 1077
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But there are several projections, one with the hotel, one with the hotel. Right.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But it is to leave all of them.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, alright, so… Can I ask one more clarifying question?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah. Sorry.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just want to ask, even though we have one hotel, that 2%, it's estimated per this member of the public that a raise would be $80,000 per year. Anybody know if that's correct?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, the cost is 20, but would raise $80. 1084
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No? Okay, thank you. I'll… I'll follow up with the city.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Afterwards. Okay. 1086
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, so the special revenue funds, I believe that's where the Art in lieu is at, Ander? That's the next section. Is it okay to move on to that, everyone?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I believe… Oh, I'm sorry, yeah. 1088
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, I was trying to be… trying to chug along.

Okay, so we'll take a 5-minute break. It's 8.45, so 8.50-ish. 1089
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, well, we're back here at the dais. 1090
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Worth of special revenue funds. 1092
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so, anyone… I know that we already have, Vice Mayor.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The Vice Mayor has, one item in the Special Revenue Funds, and is there anyone else?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That has special… was that page 161? 1095
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is anyone?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 0136, thank you.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Vice Mayor, do you want to tell us what you're looking at?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, at the goals meeting, we voted, 5-0 to approve having some public art to honor Charles Schultz, who lived in this area. And, I have walked this along a little bit by contacting the museum and talking to a couple of people there about
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Possibilities, because everything has to be approved.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And they're,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And they have, no, I guess it's a… it's beyond the museum in terms of the approval process. But what I did discover, and I hope this is okay to share, is that I was looking… I remember one council member wasn't comfortable with the… the sculptures that are in Santa Rosa, all over Santa Rosa, so with that in mind.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I was looking at what are the options, possibly, for a mural, And,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the… one of the women I was talking to at the museum suggested benchmarking about $10,000 for a mural. 1104
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But it doesn't have to be that much. But anyway, what I discovered, I really was excited about this, is that Charles Schultz had created a character who was kind of a… one of a minor character in his little tribe there, and the character was named
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 555-95472, which is our zip code, and so they called him 5, but his last name was 95472, and the reason he created this is in 1963, the post… the post officeshad… had zipcodes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And it was the first time the U.S. Postal Services had created zip codes, and he didn't like it. And so this was his little form of rebellion, is to create a character, and the character had two sisters, 3 and 4. So he was 5, and his sisters were 3 and 4.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, so anyway, I was thinking about a mural, 1108
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And the location possibly could be kind of at the entrance to the library walkway on the Bodega Avenue side. 1109
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, it would be, like, the height would be so kids could take a photo with them if you wanted, and then the Charles Schultz Museum would have a little honoring plaque describing Charles Schultz and how he lived in this area. 1110
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so that was the direction I was going, going in, and and of course, that's certainly, up to Council discretion. 1111
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then, the city… our city manager shared that there is enough money within the Art in Lieu Fund for something like this, so… 1112
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that it wouldn't have to be budgeted as extra, it would be basically direction to the Public Arts Committee. 1113
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So can you… you're suggesting $10,000, because you mentioned different things, so… Well, the fund right now has 20…21?$21,000 in it, yeah. Yeah, no, I'm asking, but what are you asking for us to… It was a suggestion by one of the women at Charles Scholz for $10,000. Okay, so $10,000? 1114
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But it's not an addition, it's just, coming out of this budget. Correct, I just wanted to be clear on what that was, so if everyone… Just, just a question, is this, like, this, like, the Art in Louis Fund, should, should this be a question for them?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We can… I believe that the Council can direct them to do this project.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that's what we're really asking them right now, is just direct it? Yeah. Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, I love the idea, and I love that you found that little bit of history. My mom, who grew up in Freestone, has a lot of stories about… Charlie Schultz lived around here, and
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, yeah, I just did a quick little search, and yeah, that'd be a really fun direction to point a mural into, and unique to our area, I think. 1120
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And it actually could be… maybe there could be a couple characters, and the 95472 kid could be one of them, and you could also have a Dancing Snoopy, or whatever, next to him as you walk up to the library. And what I liked about that location is it's visible from Bodega where you drive by, and you could see that. 1121
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, and I think we could direct the art people to figure out a good location, but to have that kind of theme, and some… I love history, so that'd be fun to have. And it's possible, I don't know, we'd have to get approval for it, but we could put maybe a rainbow shirt on him, or a peacetime shirt on him, or whatever, I don't know, make it more, you know, local.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But anyway, those are my thoughts. So can we do a thumbs up or thumbs down? Thumbs up?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, we finally all agree on something. Woohoo! 1124
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Art is fun. Okay, so that was the one item on the list here. I'm sorry, I just want tomark that off.Okay, so anything else in this special fund? And…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Mary or Anna, are we missing anything else? Am I skipping anything that's in the, on this list that's in this? I don't want to go page by page, but you guys know it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The only thing I just want to make transparent is not in here yet, and it will be coming at the next meeting, is the library costs. We don't have those, but we are assuming it's going to be coming out of the Building Reserve Infrastructure Fund, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Just for transparency. And what page is that? Page 114. Oh, one… so we're backing up? Yeah, I didn't realize you skipped all the way. 1128
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Through. So, on page 114 is the Building Infrastructure Reserve Fund. This is anticipated the account that we will be using to pay for, the first phase of the library, and then we will be bringing forward, once we get thefinal estimate from the contractor.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What the proposed remediation is at this point.

And just to follow up on that comment, it's just like, so we don't have any dollar amount at all, right, for any of this?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because I got all the slew of emails about remediation 1, 2, blah blah blah. We still don't even know a dollar amount, right? The phase one we're finishing right now, which is, you know, from an initial start till now,the estimate that we've received, I do not know ifthat is final yet, because they didsome more testing today and some additional work. Right now, it's…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: $39,000 for that first phase. Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: do not have anything yet for the next phase, which is the remediation, so we're waiting to hear from that. Right, and the $39,000, just to be clear for those that are following along in the public, those are for two tiny areas of the library that somebody decided to blow out, which is the staffing area and the teenagers. So if the mold goes larger.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 39,000 times whatever amount to do the full… the full scope. But I also think I just want to be clear, the fact that our insurance is not going to pay for this. So it is going to be a push and a pull.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Dealing with the lawyers, no doubt, about who's responsible for something.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: our lawyer and the lawyer for the library administration about who's going to be responsible for what. Somebody's going to have to pay for the money, right? Because we're not going to get insurance. Is that… That is correct.

Insurance will not cover you for that. Another huge thing for me, factoring in about my vote for this budget.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But to be clear, this is coming out of a savings account for… for buildings, for just this kind of purpose, and it's been there, and it's not necessarily a… Right. But how much is in there?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The reserves at 60. I want to say that I'm very proud that we started this fund when I was on the Budget Committee for a day like this. I mean… Which line are you talking about? We're… I think we're looking at the $785,000 is what we have, right?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That we're… we're on page 115… 114? Am I looking at 5.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But just, I mean, it was started as a savings account along with, I think, the vehicle account for a rainy day when we would need it. 1141
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Definitely right now. 1143
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the additional fencing, I don't know what that content will be, because that's
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay. I'm glad to know it's not coming out of the general fund, that we have a fund. Thank you for starting that. 1145
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, is there anything else in the building, or in the special?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Revenue funds that anything needs to be addressed by anybody.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Not in a special earning fund. Can we back up for a little bit for pension, page 118? Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think we took a vote on that already. Did we take a vote on the pension? So, so there… Yes, we're gonna wait till mid-year. 1150
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's what we…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead. There is a $500,000 that was discussed at the last meeting, when the information item came forward to the Council that 1152
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it would take $500 from the discretionary and move it into the 115 charge, whether the Council wants to do that.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: within the pension fund. It had nothing to do with general fund.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Question.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Didn't we already move money into that? 1156
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Not yet. Budget Committee didn't… Budget Committee heard of it, and it's in support of that, but it hasn't been discussed in a full council whether that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That the Council wants to do that. And what amount are you talking about again? Should that come back as another item? 1158
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't think so. 1160
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Typically, we've always discussed it at budget time. And what is the amount, Ana, you said? $500,500.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And what page? 118. 1162
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so that's not budgeted in here, right? 1163
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, in this… in this page, you have a total of 3.3 million in pension.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 2 million is…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: designated for 115 trust, and then you have a million three is discretionary, so it's not in the trust. So if you want to take half a million from the discretionary and move into the trust.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Then that would just be… Moving within this fund. 1167
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I see. Nothing outside of this fund. So how much would be…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Leftover then, if you have… It would still be $3 million. But, I mean, as much would be within…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: How much is in a more conservative portfolio, and how much is in the stocks and bonds?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's 50-50.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So you all chose not to put it in the budget? 1172
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Originally, you were supportive of it? I thought we moved some money over.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm trying to understand where this… So, I think what you're saying is that Budget Committee recommended it, but we're at full council, so we gotta all agree now to do it, to move $500,000 out of the 1.3, so that… and would go into the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The 115 trust. Yeah, so what's the penalties if we needed it in the future to pull it back, or can we not touch it once it's moved? You pull the 115 trust back to pay for your pension.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No, I know, I'm saying if we agreed to move the $500,000 and are left with $800,000 of discretionary dollars.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If we ever needed more than that $800,000, what's our penalty?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's a penalty, right? Or is it… you can't move it? Once you move it, you can't move it back? The general fund is paying 1178
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: pension obligations now, so you would just take out the 115 money to pay those pension obligations and use the general fund money that was paid for pension obligations. I see. Okay, so there's really not that big of a risk. We're just moving it, and then…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it's still… the general fund is still accumulating.

Yes, it's still within your fund 105. Right.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And the opportunity is investment return. Yes.

Yeah, I've been in favor. I wanted to move the full million, like, a year ago, so I'm 100% in favor of putting some money in to get better interest. Yeah, I'm okay with the $500,000. I am too. So, thumbs up, thumbs down.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay. Alright.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for bringing that up. 1183
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, anything else in these areas from anyone on staff?But… okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sorry if I skipped over some, let's see… Anything in the insurance fund?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Nope.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, and that takes us to the all-important water and wastewater
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: enterprise funds, and we definitely have a discussion there, and it's, you know, one of the assumptions to decide on here, and I believe, if I… please correct me if I'm wrong, the question is whether or not we would be deferring the loan?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, I'm sorry, 162. 1190
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the question is whether or not we would be deferring the loan, and then I understand that a question that has come up from some is whether or not
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: or the recommendation about deferring the water… the… increasing the water rates, and whether or not we wanted to do that for 2 months, which was, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, that was… that was what was, advised by the enterprise?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: committee, or the group that came? I just want to make sure I'm narrating this correctly. And is there anything else that I'm forgetting? 1193
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Or further than the Finance Committee, yeah, okay, the Enterprise Finance Committee. And then, was there anything else that I am missing as far as under the water?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I think it was… I think Mary had recommended not to consider the sewer rates… I mean, the sewer… 1195
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I mean, the wastewater. So, I… I don't know if anyone has any thoughts on this before we… I'm… I have plenty of thoughts, but go ahead.

Yeah, I have plenty of thoughts that I stated at the last meeting. I'm, like, completely in favor of waiving that loan, the $1.1 million. I mean.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In the midst of everything, especially given the recommendations from the water and sewer folk, along with the grand jury, it's like, that, I feel like, is a minimum we can do. So that's factored into my scenario that I ran with Bob Agenda Item Number 1
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Leland, which is part of the assumption, is not paying back that loan. So that's where I am with that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, and I just want to clarify, did… did they recommend the two months, or was… did they recommend suspending it until… until the new allocation study? Can you remind me? I want to be clear, I want to forgive it. Yeah, I just had one other discussion. They're two separate issues, I just… I just… I just was reading my notes and realized I think I might have misspoke, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Before we continue with more discussion, I want to make sure I outlined it right. Right. I believe that the, Enterprise Committee Ad Hoc Committee forthe finance recommended 2months deferral forrightnow. Okay. So that they can reevaluate. We have… they have a meeting in July, so they wanted to reevaluate, and so they requested suspension
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: not increasing the water rates right now. Okay.

Sorry, I'm not trying to convolute anything, I just realized I thought maybe I misspoke. So you're saying you're in favor of… of forgiving the loan and not paying it back? 1200
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Correct? Yeah,100%. Now, that's a different issue about whether we delay the increases in water. Yeah, so I just want to stick with the loan first, sothat we're, like.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, not getting too convoluted and confused, so let's just discuss the forgiveness of the loan. I personally am in favor of forgiving it and not paying it back. So am I. So I'm just gonna let other people… So am I. I am too.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can… Yeah, it's all about discussion, I'm just… just throwing mine out immediately. I feel like, for the public and myself, can we restate… you're talking about a loan? Can we restate what it is we're forgiving in… and be clear about this?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because it's a million dollars we're talking about.

And before Mary goes, I want to be clear for the Council. All you're doing tonight is the budget document.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So you… this would come back to you to actually take the action to forgive the… We're not trying to take action, we're just trying to see where everyone's at. I just want to make sure that's clear. We're just doing a thumbs up, thumbs down where we're at, all of us on that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Did you want to explain it more, Mary? 1206
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sorry.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, so this is the loan that the sewer… the enterprise fund would be repaying back to the general fund. It was a million… I don't have the… 1.1 million that the enterprise fund would be repaying back to 1208
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the general fund. So, there is… the request from the Enterprise Committee is that we,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: not have… not have to… not have the enterprise fund repay the general fund, because the general fund was subsidizing 1210
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the enterprise fund. So this would pay… repay back the general fund.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And it was going to be a yearly… I believe it was a 5-year repayment, so if we, do not… if we, forgive the loan, it would be looking into the forecast 200-some thousand per year in the next 5 years. That would not go into the general fund.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that was a request from the Enterprise Fundator. Right, just to restate, the Enterprise Fund, it would have had the impact of the General Fund of $200,000, and that's what we're…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Suggesting we forget. It's the wastewater loan not repaid. I mean, it's part of all the, bob Leland, all of us that had discussions with him this week, I believe. I know I had that discussion with him. 1214
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And he says right here, wastewater loan not repaid. The original assumption was the $1.1 million loan from the general fund to the wastewater fund would be repaid over 5 years,starting in fiscalyear28, at no interest. 1215
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: $220K to be received by the general fund in each of those years. Not repaying the loan is a policydecision by theCouncil. Writing off the loan would be accomplished by recording a transfer out for the general fund to the wastewater. 1216
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: fund of $1.1 million and elimination of advance to other funds reserve in the general fund. The impact on the general fund, including loss of interest income due to lower fund balance, is shown in the chart to the right. And Ana sent us all of these, scenarios. They're… I don't know if you saw, if you have them or not, but they're
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: They're all… that's what I just read from everyone, if you're wondering what I'm reading from. So, I don't know if that helps at all, but… 1218
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's… that was one of the discussions, and that was one of the things that came up.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So tonight, we're just not counting on the income, but it's going to come back to Council.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I… it's… We're taking it out of the scenarios. 1221
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't think it was projected to start this year, it was, I think… It knocked the 28. So, it's just part of the forecast. It would be changing, you know. Just like we talked about the forecast forthe other stuff, this is another one of those, 1222
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I personally, I mean, I already weighed in where I'm at, and I think we have… we have 3 thumbs up already to not be… to, what do we need… how do you need me to word it, Mary, so you have record that, you know, not… Wastewater alone not to be repaid is basically… we have 3 thumbs up right now for that. 1223
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, and so that page 118, where we're going to end up having the graph to send a message to the public what the future numbers are going to look like… For 188, then that…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: graphic, and on page 118, it's going to be clearly stated. I think it's page 181. Or 181. It's going to be clearly stated there that we are forgiving, right?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Right.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can you clarify the number on the page that we're looking at, of where this is coming out of?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is it on 164?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think Alex was saying it was 180. Or it's just in the projections on that 180. Yeah, I think it's just in the projections. Alright, so… 1229
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, and then it's under utilities? What's it under on here? I'm trying to track it. Wastewater,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Did you find?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I only knew of it in the projections, but I, I mean, we don't… I don't think we have it on the, in the actual budget. 1232
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's just part of the projections for overall where we'll be.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I believe, because it was divided out, you know.

But if it started in 28, it should be on this page, right? 181? Oh, 181, yeah. I'm sorry, I thought you meant… I thought you were looking in section… I'm just asking the year it starts and what line it is, so I can track it along, like I'm tracking a hotel. 1234
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Are you all conferring? I'm trying to understand where we're at.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't think it's billing to this clubhouse for the repayment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So we're talking about something that wasn't even in the budget, built in. Well, it was part of the presentation. Yeah, it was. I thought he said it was, but it was part of… Yeah, it was part of what I worked through individually with him, yeah. Cool.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I mean, because that came up somewhere, that was part of his assumptions, and he told us that as a policy, we needed to decide what we wanted to do with it. But then it would have been in the budget if we were… That was part… discussing it as doing it, right?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This is just a balance sheet adjustment. If the loan is repayment, it would be money coming back into the general fund, and it would be an expense to the wastewater fund. Right, but you never put it in the general fund forecast if… as… because why…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I mean, wouldn't it be in here if we were discussing it?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I thought he said it was. It would be… it would be the bottom line adjustment for if it's being repayment, but… Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I… I need to discuss with Bob about how he… 1242
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: structure this forecast for the loan repayment adjustment? Because I don't think it's part of this forecast. I mean, you can get back to me, but I'd like that clarified. And refer to this page.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 181, because if we were projecting TOT, and we were projecting this… Why aren't we projecting this? …that it should be on this page, and we're make… you know, now we're making a decision to… to… to change it, right? Am I… I mean, who owns this? I mean, who…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, if it… I'm just curious if it is or isn't. So… 1245
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm gonna write a question mark to there. 1246
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So you're saying the transfer… transfers in, which is what, like, the last line before total revenue? Yeah, right above cost allocation. 1247
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If that was it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Bye.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, alright. So basically, I mean, but we've all given our thumbs up on that, so you know where we're at. 1250
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Or thumbs up, thumbs down, whatever. But, 1251
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, yes, it's just thumbs up today. Well, I… Well, I want to verify, my consensus is to bring it back
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't know if forgive is the right thing, or what the right thing is, but I'm willing to take it out of this. 1253
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I, I, I need… so. 1254
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Or you've got three. I want to learn more. You all had a thumbs up, right? Okay, alright, I'm just trying to keep it moving here. Okay. 1255
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, so that was one of the items, and then the other item was… and I don't have all the public comments in front of me, 1256
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the water rates. Is that one… that was something that was brought up as a topic, right? Am I wrong? I don't want a can of worms if… okay, go ahead. So, it was proposed that, we freeze the water rates, increase, which is 4%. 1257
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, I just… it seems to me…well, first of all, I want to clarify, was this a Finance Committee recommendation of the EFOC, or was this the full EFOC committee recommendation? Could you clarify that for me? Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For the forgiveness of the rates. 1259
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I believe it was the Finance Committee that was part of their recommendations to come forward. Because it seems to me that the rate… the rate structure and the way it was structured is intended to help pay for all the infrastructure repairs that we need.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so, if we… if we freeze the rates. 1261
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: then we don't have… we're not going to have the resources that we need to do the repairs that we want to do. And if… 1262
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so there was a rate study done in 2023, and now it's 2026. I think in 2 years, we should do another rate study, and then look at it then in terms of
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: where are we at? Or even I be… even next year, we could do another rate study, but to just kind of, to me, to just freeze the rates, I'm not sure why we would do that when it… it doesn't… is not in line with the rate study that we already have.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You had your hand up. I am. So, I completely understand why, why you would think that it…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: not… Collecting money to, do the repairs that we ought to do.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: seems…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seems negligent, but the ratepayers are suffering high prices, and we've already increased, you know, that… that rate to a point where it's causing them
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Should help with, some infrastructure things, but even if you don't take that, the 10 things that we need to… having seen what the projected, repairsare,wehavethefinancingabilitywithin thiscurrentamount. 1271
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To address those 10 things, if we do it, like, if we tackle one year on, year on, year on, for the next 10 years. 1272
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead. I see a confused face in the crowd. 1273
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, I agree with the Vice Mayor, and the fact that everything that I went through as far as that rate study and the painful discussions about who was going to be in what tier, and this and this and that, it was all based on numbers, so I'm not wanting to tinker with that, and I'm not in favor of freezing anything. It's got to go Agenda Item Number 1
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ahead based upon what the experts and my understanding of it is, and then, as the Vice Mayor said.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: we're due for a reexam in a year, two years, and I'm fine with waiting forthat. Ithink I just want to remind everyone that we have a grand jury report out there, and we have
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: customers who are sufferingfrom this. There are questions about the legality of the tiers, and I hear you when you're saying that it was done on numbers. You all know I was vehemently opposed to everything that was voted in about these water rates.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I know that through the recommendation from the entire, committee, I thought that the entire committee recommended that the rates,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm trying to remember, they recommended that the rates be frozen. I thought it wasn't just one committee, it was the entire committee. It actually is the entire… the entire EFOC, and I know what she said, yes. I mean, as part of the… the Enterprise Oversight Committee, the two on the, Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Infrastructure side, do agree with this. 1279
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, it's the tiers that are problematic, and I think we just need to take… make sure that we take a moment and understand what these, rate increases could do
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: but give it a slight moratorium to give our ratepayers just some, you know, breathing room so we don't jack the rates again. Well, and that's why I'm wondering, I don't know if the two… where the two-month or where the 6- month, whatever, and personally, I wanted to ask, our city manager, I mean, if we did that for 6 months, just if… would that give… because if we're just going to do it for two, what does that mean?Whatcan be accomplished in twomonths, or, like, figured out? I… I just can't imagine anything
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: can be. So if we did it for, like, 6 months, what kind of impact? Does anyone have any idea what kind of impact that would have on us? I just… 1282
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just wondered.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sorry, my apologies for not having the mic on. So, it estimates for one month about $11,000 for water only, so… So, but my question… I guess maybe my question was, I'm sorry, I know I wrote down 11K, but… 1284
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: if we froze it for just 2 months, then are we just doing that just togive abreak, or is there anything that we can figure out in that, you know, in that time versus the 6 months? I'm just trying to understand, like. 1285
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, I understand we could be giving the ratepayers, all of us, a break on this, but long-term, is there anything, any fix in there if we did it for longer than that?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I believe that the two… the two months, as recommended by, the… the Enterprise Committee, was to allow the Enterprise Committee to meet and to review the rates. I mean, one of the things that they did want to look at was eliminating the tier water rates, so my understanding is having these two months is to be able to have the committee meet to see… to make recommend… 1287
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to make recommendations, to give them time to actually look at these water rates. So give them time, and give the ratepayers a break. A break. And kind of just, like, release the steam that is building between all of these different contentious
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: things that are happening, so I just wanted to have a clear, clear understanding. I know Councilmember Hinton has something, too, so… 1290
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Do we have in the budget a new rate study? 1291
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Not for this year. 1292
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: First, that… that they're asking for. 1293
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I mean, maybe we should be considering that.

And then, I heard what you said about the sewer, but it would seem like we could reduce the water, and maybe we put a rate study in the budget, and we reduce water, crazily enough, till we get a new rate study.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, who… who pays for the RAID study? Is that the rate… is that the water pay… water… and it's about, what, $80,000 for a rate study? Oh. 1295
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's up to the council, but the water enterprise could pay for the rate steady, or the, you know, general fund could, if that's what the council wanted, and yes, I would guess it's probably $75…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can I ask a question, a clarifying question? Because I'm… I pulled up the Enterprise Finance Next Steps, and nowhere in there does it say 2 months.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, where did that come from? Because it says… Sure. We recommend that theCouncil direct staff to haverates remain static and not… 1299
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to increase on July 1, and to remove the tiered rates as rates and tiers are not based on accurate data. This should be done before July 1, 2026. There's no2 months in any ofthis stuff, so I'm just wondering, where did 2 months come in?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can we… so Kate is on the call right now. Okay.

Can we get clarification? She is on… Kate, on Zoom. Kate, can you hear us? Are you able to clarify?
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kate: I hear you, and I… yes, we…
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kate: We… our recommendations, which I… it's hard for me to believe that this is actually a conversation, because we were very clear, our recommendation is to freeze rates and remove tiers until cost allocation can be done using time tracking. Our top four recommendations involved time tracking, which I am shocked has not been a 1304
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kate: part of this discussion. We, in our top four, we didn't even mention the SOAR loan because it's not even due until next year. So, to repeat, our top four recommendations are to do a time tracking
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kate: To pay back, to refund $350,000 in excess of attorney's fees, and to modify the cost allocation plan.
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kate: which includes removing council time, putting the engineering into contracts, reducingfinance,and reducingthecitymanager,which areall,youknow,based on these number allocation numbers that don't match reality whatsoever. So I think, you know, we… in our document, we were very clear about the steps that need to happen 1307
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kate: And I also just sent something for grand jury recommendations that goes over this as well. So, yeah, we…
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kate: believe that rates need to be suspended until accurate expenses are, on the books, and the only way you can do that is time tracking. And I, you know, and I'm shocked that no one's talked about timetracking when you're talking about staff time and budgeting, but, that's my response. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Question.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead. I have a question for staff. I know other cities in Sonoma County do cost allocation plans. 1311
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And are those plans based on time tracking of all the employees?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm sorry, can you paint the question? I had two conversations going on right now. So, other cities in Sonoma County and beyond, use cost allocation plans, whether it's, I don't know, whatever utility they're running, water or electricity or whatever. So,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But do their employees track time? Or are, you know, cost allocation plans are, in some ways, Estimates. 1314
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So how… so how do… how does Sebastopol compare with othercities regardingcost allocation plans? So Iasked staff today to reach out to othercities to see who does track…tracking staff time, who doesn't do it so far. The ones that have responded so far has been Sonoma County does do it. 1315
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: City of Santa Rosa does do it. 1316
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The city that does time tracking and rely heavily on time tracking is City of Catati. I've talked to City of, Sonoma. They don't do time tracking. I talked to Cloverdale, they don't do that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I know that, you know, we… we unofficially have done that, just to see what it looks like internally, but we don't have a mechanism. We are tracking our time on an Excel spreadsheet, and it's very tedious. So, you know, the Sonoma… this city of Sonoma, Clovedale.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: they are based on these factors are based on staffing level, transaction, and budgets. It's not based on time tracking. 1320
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This one from I got from the other city. During the presentations, though, we were told that the city does have the ability to do that, so you're saying they're saying… That the city is looking into a plugged-in module that we have with the current software, but we haven't seen a quote on what that looked like? 1321
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I did reach out to them. 1322
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I'm just waiting to hear back. Okay, I have one comment, and then I understand that other cities are doing this XYZ, 1323
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I bet there isn't one city out there that waited 20 long years to actually do an allocation study. You know, we're not just dealing with what everybody's doing now, we're dealing with a lot of baggage that has really angered a lot of people, which is clear.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and why we ended up with a grand jury report. So I just want to put that into context, so regardless of what we're looking at right now. 1325
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We have a bad history, according to all of our residents in the grand jury, and that's what we're dealing with. So, I just want to point that out, that it's not just about what everybody does now, but we have some penance to pay. 1326
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: According to all of our residents and the grand jury as far as that. And I don't know what that is, but they're angry at us, so I just want to point that out, because I hear people all the time.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Complaining at me about their water rates. 1328
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, I had a question a while ago. I was just curious, the last time we did a study, where did it come out of? Did it come out of the general fund, or did it come out of sewer and water? Do we know the answer to that? 1330
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, cause… I…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'd be willing to add it into the budget, into the general fund. I mean, I think we need to do something. I want to continue to learn more, because I don't sit on that committee, but…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I would be willing to add that tonight out of the general fund, but I'm curious who paid for it last time, and maybe we should pencil that in so that we can get that done sooner versus later.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember? I would not be in favor of another rate study. The one that we've had is fairly recent, and I think that judging by the numbers of what we're able to pay in the CIP and what our income is. 1334
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that our rates are stable enough to predict that we're able to cover costs, and to add that cost this year to a budget that we're nervous about doesn't, worries me. But, I would… I would… I don't think we need a cost study on water rates.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I personally would advocate for time tracking. I mean, we heard that Katati does it. We're always comparing ourselves to Katati, so why would we not now do…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: compare ourselves, like, picking and choosing.

That's per… and… because I'm… I hear you on the water rights, and I mean, I'm… we need to do something, and our… this committee came together, citizens, and came up with all of these ideas, and that's their recommendation. So personally, I'm taking their recommendation. We should be, like, post-haste, trying to figure out how to keep trackof this. I just don't understand why we're not…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: already on board with that, so that's my thoughts on it. Go ahead.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, I think this isn't a decision we should be making, because these are… seem… they're asking for a lot of things, and this should be an agenda item in itself. If we're talking about budget, I was just saying I'd be willing to pencil something in. We could decide if we need it later.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I would be willing to pencil it into the general fund. Could we figure out, like, penciling in anamount, and thenwhen it comes back as an item, we decide if the cost is the tracking or the allocation? You know what I mean? Like, it could be… when we have the… we have some kind of money set aside, and then when we have our… when it actually comes back as an item, then… 1340
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Then it would go either… could go either or. 1341
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, that actually does make sense. Does that make sense? You know what I mean? So then we're not arguing… Sure, yeah, no, it said some money somewhere, but I heard $75,000… Or $75,000 for rate, or money, or whatever, but yeah. Something… we need to do something, so it's gonna cost money, so maybe we'll be putting it in the budget to bring it back. I agree. I mean… 1342
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Wear a green one. 1343
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead, Vice Mayor. I just wanted to make a comment that, someone had said that we always compare ourselves to Catati, and Katati's time tracking, well, we also compare ourselves to Sonoma and Cloverdale, and they aren't time tracking. So, just to hold that,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't understand why the rate study would come out of the general fund. I don't think I would support that. 1346
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I think time tracking, I've done it myself, I think it's very tedious.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I'm just not sure about that.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I want to reiterate that 1349
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't want to set aside 2 months of changing the rates when we had arate study that defined how we should be 1350
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, how we should move forward. I didn't vote for that rate study. I didn't vote for the water rates, so… but now that they're in place. 1351
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, I can't… I think we need to have the experts that we hire define the amount of money that we need to set aside for our 1352
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: repairs, etc. I don't think it… I don't think it's wise to take a two-month break. I don't… it doesn't make sense to me what you'd get out of that.

I think what we would… I'm just gonna say for myself, I think we'd get a lot of goodwill from the community, because they're feeling like, I mean, if you've read anything this past week of what they're calling us crooks and criminals, and that we're taking their money, I mean, we… we put up with a lot, but I'm just telling you, the steam is building.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And personally, I see that just as a goodwill that, you know, we're working on this, and we're going to do what we can. So personally, I think, just to help us move along, and I know you want to comment, is just the thumbs up, thumbs now down about whether or not the two-month break, maybe that helps us move forward.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead, and then I… I'm fine with a permanent moratorium, and what you get is, like, the person who's paying a $1,000 water bill, keeps it at $1,000 and doesn't go up to $1,400.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Right,so I'm finewith doing the two months, just to, you know, if… do we need to… do you need that from us, Mary? Or what… what is… how do we move forward from this topic? So we would need your direction 1356
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to… we will have to bring it back at the next meeting for ratification,but to direction tonot include those figures into the Enterprise Fund for the budget purposes only. Okay, so I'm good with that. I don't… can we all do whether or not we are or not? Are we talking two-month or a moratorium? And I'm getting confused.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I thought… well, I said 2 months, but I don't know.

I'm okay with 2 months or a moratorium for now on the water rates, till we do so. I can do the moratorium, so… if you said no…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I said moratorium, and we could look at it as it goes. Okay, yeah. We can always bring it back, but, you know, to alleviate some uncertainty and…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So that our ratepayers can, you know, predict a bill, you know, maybe leave it the same the way it is today, and it costs us $11,000 per month or something like that, but it is in the enterprise fund, which is stable, not the general fund, which we are most concerned about tonight. 1360
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, so I'm fine with doing that. 1361
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then… I'll go ahead. 1362
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm not okay with that. So I want to be clear, so the moratorium… Just the moratorium.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: With no end date, right? No, it doesn't have a time frame on it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For the water rights. You're just not raising them.

No, no, I understand that, right. Not raising them. There is no end date. We need to bring this back next… to the next meeting for ratification.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We will be working with the Enterprise Fund to evaluate, the cost. Could we say, like, the moratorium ends, like, next budget cycle? Like, we have to, like, re… either reinstate it, you know, given the budget situation or not? We can say the moratorium for one year or something?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That is the Council's discretion, if you want to say it's through the end ofthis fiscal year? From now till the end ofthis upcoming fiscal year? The upcoming fiscal year, before the new budget. And then, I get for clarification, are we setting aside funding for a right study, or…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think we need to set some kind of money aside to do something. We, I mean, we're gonna do this, we have to figure out this issue. Two different thumbs ups, then? Yeah.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If you would like to. I mean, so, thumbs up, thumbs down for the moratorium, but… The moratorium for this fiscalyear. Now tillthis fiscal year. Yeah, maybe that's the wrong word. I could be usingthe wrong… So weare suspending rate… we are suspending… what I'm hearing is we are suspending any increase to the water rates from now
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Until the next fiscal year, so it'd be through June 30th, 2027. Okay. Right?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so we're going to do that, and then… And we'll bringthat item back forratification and approval, or ratification discussion action at the next City Council meeting. Right, and if we wanted to, you know, all that discussion, we can have discussion about tiers and whether or not they can, you know, because I know all these things have come into play, and I don't know
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, like, what is all the process for all these different, you know, changes that are being requested, so we can discuss all of that at a later time, right? Okay, is that…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then item 2 is, is it appropriate to take the… set aside a placeholder for within the water fund?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For another rate study. Well, or time tracking, whatever, after we have the discussion. Yeah, just setting aside money. Setting aside money. $75,000, let's say. I'm good. I'm good with that. From the general fund, yes. 1374
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: From the general, or from the… Where does it… where is it supposed to come from? That's the question I have, I mean, truly. Normal for the Enterprise Fund to pay for the study.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, I'm fine, given ourcircumstances and taking it out of the general… Well,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it would hit the general fund, which is at $900, and we're trying not to do that. I understand that, but I'm also, to the mayor's point, trying to pay penance, too. Yeah. I, too, want to get up and deal with my neighbors, so… Fair enough.

They're calling for us to go to jail, not mine. So…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anyway, so, I'm just saying, so I'm okay with it coming out of general fund.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Ups or downs?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We have two people here on the ends that need to weigh in. We already have three, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's why I asked where it came from before. If it comes from the Enterprise Fund, I want to
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't know, I want to understand, if we're forgiving a loan and we're paying for it from, you know, where's it appropriate to come from? I think we need to do it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I understand that we have a problem because we didn't do a cost allocation plan for 20 years. That was before we got elected, right? This is a problem. So how we remedy that, I just feel a little cautious about the idea of 1383
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Of doing things to remedy it that won't really count.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, we're gonna freeze the water rates, and that won't count. We're gonna have the gentle fund pay for… I mean, it might count emotionally, but
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SebastopolCommunityCulturalCenter:Thereshould bea realfinancialaccountingfor how much we, as a city, are giving up inorder to repay this, ratherthan just throwing stuff at it randomly. But that's why we're setting money up. It should be more… 1386
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: just more thought through. We're setting money aside to come back and discuss what we're going to do next, and take the next steps. Right, but you're taking it out of the general fund, and that's where I have a problem. 1387
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I think that that's what our citizens right now would want us to do, so that's why I'm… But to me, that's arbitrary. 1388
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's not like… it's how do you then track or account for how much we've already done to rectify the problem? 1389
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that's the part that I think that there should be a real clear
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Clear accounting of. What are we doing to rectify the problem?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, there's a variety of, asks for them. They want rebates, too. So, maybe it kind of all evens out in the wash when we bring it back on the Agenda Item Number 1
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next agenda item. So, I'm willing to put it in either account. I do just know we need to have a rate study done. So,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, we're gonna be… Or time tracking. 1393
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Looking at it. Or time tracking. We'll put this placeholder, the committee will meet
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay. August, and we'll bring this back and have a real… have a much better discussion.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: SoI can cross that off the list.All right. So you guys got 3 thumbs up to bring… put it as a placeholder in the general fund. We did that? Got 3, I'm gonna… Yeah, and we took care of… we voted on… on the loan payback, and then we voted on the rates, so I think that was all the… what…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is that all… you're on the committee, is that all the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Things that came up? It's not all of them, but I don't believe we should address all of them. No, I just meant, like, that came up, like, when we were in the beginning, like, the assumptions that… This is the one that I put out, yes.

Okay, I just wanted to make sure we were covering that. Okay. 1399
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Let's move on. Mayor? 1401
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can we move on? Is that… go ahead. May I get a telecommunication?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you are suspending the water rate increase, just the water or the sewers as well? Just the water. Just the water for one year. You want to put a placeholder… not a placeholder, you want to put $80,000 into Council budget for the water rates. 75… I thought we said $75. Did you say…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 75, and we had 3 thumbs up to take it out of the general fund. 75.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And for the water rates, was that… that was up to 1 year, or just 1 year?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This fiscal year. This fiscal year? Okay. All right. 1406
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Does that… is that all you needed, Ana? Yes.

Okay, alright, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Are there any other things under this enterprise funds before I… wastewater enterprise funds before we move on? I'm afraid to ask. Okay.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And just so you'll take public comment, come back, we will reiterate everything we've heard from you. Right. And then the Council can decide whether you want to adopt that tonight, or whether… with changes after you've heard public comment or not, or whether you want to bring it back. 1414
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: At the next meeting, to formally adopt that. Okay, alright.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No, it's okay. So this is for the public comment for public hearing on the budget with the Council discussion and recommendations. If you'd like to make a public comment, I come in chamber, seeing none. 1416
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Kyle, can you unmute yourself, please? 1417
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I will come back to Kyle. Kate, can you unmute yourself, please?
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kate: I am unmuted.
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kate: I can.
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kate: Can I… is there a way I could just make a quick comment before my public comment starts?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is it related to the recommendations from the.

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kate: Yes.
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kate: Yes.
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study until all, like, the SOAR master plan, the grand jury, and all this, and the time tracking is all figured
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kate: it out, because you'd just be wasting money until you have the data necessary for a new rate study.
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kate: So, what we need is time tracking, which is standard practice in all, every single business. All contractors that you use, the engineering firm,the lawyer, everybody uses time tracking. It's not onerous.
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kate: And then my finalplease is, like, please read, like, our grand jury recommendations, because we're not asking for rebates.
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kate: at all, we're asking for the enterprise funds to be reimbursed, and I will start my public comment now.
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kate: Okay, thank you. I urge Council to reject the proposed 2627 budgets for water and sewer enterprise funds, as the budgets are not Prop 218 compliant, not Prop 26 compliant, and are forcing illegal and high rates onto every resident, business, and nonprofitin Sebastopol. Bad budgets equal bad bills. Water bills that are illegal 1437
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kate: and inflated water bills that are unaffordable. Why would Council members want to put their good names to numbers they know are untrue? In the current budgets, ratepayers are being charged 52% of Council's total budget.
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kate: No one in this room would ever testify in a court of law that Council spends 52% of their time on water and sewer. That would be over half of every single council meeting.

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kate: How can you put your names on something you know is untrue and illegal? 1440
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kate: The current budget allocates 63% of the city manager department to water and sewer.

The city manager does not spend 63% of her time on water and sewer. These are the facts.

Please have strength and correct this situation.

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kate: There are many more examples ofnumbers in the budget that don't reflect reality. This shows that the ClearSource model is flawed. How did ClearSourcecome up with52% of council time when we all know that is not true? Sebastopol prides itself on doing what is right and just. Here is an opportunity to do so.
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kate: To make the legal and morally correct decisions. Reject these enterprise budgets. 1443
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kate: Follow the EFOC's recommendations, pay back the interfi… Prize funds. Thank you. 1444
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Kate, for your public comment. Kyle, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I will come back to Kyle. Lee, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Lee: Thank you, thank you.
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Lee: Several things. Thank you for acknowledging the work that I did, and actually responding to it. I think it's satisfying, and thank you. It's a lot of effort. In terms of comments here, I think I heard, you know, we've got a 25% reserve. Why are we worried about the budget deficit?
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Lee: You know, if it was a one-time expense this year that was creating a problem, or if there was a promise of more revenue next year, you wouldn't worry about it. It would be an aberration, but that's not what's going on. Next year, you're going to lose 1453
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Lee: at least according to the budget, a whole bunch of permanent fees, and it's going to get a lot worse. And then, of course, the cost allocation thing is plugging a budget gap right now. If that starts to go away, you got a bigger budget problem next year. So, that's why you need to act now.
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Lee: Councilmember Carter is channelingcouncils of the past. They always fix this problem.
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Lee: with street maintenance budget. Take away the street maintenance, and we got a balanced budget. And today, we have 11 miles of streets in poor and very poor conditions.

That's 50%. We get in the newspaper periodically for the worst streets in the county. That's not what we should have in the newspaper about us.
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Lee: somebody asked about, the… where… where I got the $80,000 from, for the, hotel tax increase. That was from a report from NHA
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Lee: who is your financial consultant. They reported it back in2023. Nisa was there, Steven was there, so you guys can find it. They also, though, pointed out or suggested a UUT utility user tax increase that would give you $230,000 a year. So you guys need to put something together and figurethatall out, I guess. The only othertwothings here are Park Village and the EV chargers. I'm not
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Lee: Sure why we have…
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Lee: subsidized EV chargers when there's commercial charging now, and I'm not sure why we continue to just throw money at Park Village. Those people are paying rent. Where's the rent money? Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Leigh, for your public comment. Next, I'll go to Kyle. Kyle, can you unmute yourself, please? 1461
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Kyle, could you unmute yourself, please? 1462
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There's none in chambers, and Kyle's the only one that has his hands up, and I'm asking him to unmute.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I'm getting no response. 1465
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, Mayor, would you like to wait for Mr. Falbel to respond, or we can just move forward and close the public hearing? Well, I think we just need to move forward at this point. I mean, you know, if it was… if they're not there, then if he's not there, he's not there. So, okay. So, are we back at the dais now, Mayor? We… 1466
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, we are, and I would ask for a recap from staff as to what the changes have been, and then the Council can either decide to move forward, or cancontinue the budget into the new fiscal… or into July. Okay, so Ana… 1467
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Going from the top, so for Council… Is it possible to put that up on the screen for us?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, the Council budget will now be $268,607. 1470
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We started out with $194,107, take out the main street for the,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Subscription, plus $75,000 for the water weight study.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: City Manager Budget, the League of California City for Conference, and removing, $400 for the subscription. So, $1,500 for the travel, and $600 for the
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: conference registration. I just want to clarify… So you want to see the bottom line? Well, I just… I just want to clarify, it's not just a water allocation study, but it could be any of things if that needs to be documented. We keep saying that over and over again, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What do you guys… do you all want me to do in total? Do you want to see the bottom line? You want to see the bottom line, or do you want to see every…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The bottom line, you go from $960,000 to $850,000.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: deficit.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Do you want me to go back to department by department? Just…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I want to know what the will is of everyone here, because it's 10 o'clock.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Does everyone want… Line by line? 1481
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I would just like the total of the proposed surplus for the end of this year at this point.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It hasn't changed. 1483
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's 1.2 million services? Yes, yes. 1484
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so we went from $960 to $850. Is this something you can do very quickly? Like, I mean, there aren't that many changes. 1485
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, in addition to the ones, 1486
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Ana said for the assistant city manager budget, it would besalaryand benefitsreduction of $120,000.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The recruitment of $5,000 would be eliminated, and then the IIMC for $215, and the ICMA membership for $240. For the Administrative Services Department, it would be $1,000 for the GFOA application. 1488
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For planning.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It would be salary and benefit reduction from that. 1490
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Combined hybrid position of… staff, associate. 1491
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: contract planning manager would be $130,000.

You'd be adding $75,000 for the EIFD as a placeholder.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: $10,000 would be allocated within the art in lieu fee for the sculpture.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In the pension, obligation fund, you would move $500… $500,000 from…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: discretionary account to the 115 Trust. 1495
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And you've also given direction for Council to forgive future agenda, to come back for Council to forgive the wastewater loan amount, the entire amount, and forno increase for waterrates for this fiscalyear. Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 26-27.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anyone have any?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Questions? Corrections? 1499
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No corrections, this is comment time, or no? Yes.

Okay, I'm still… I… with what we did, and the scenario that I came in and started this meeting from, that, our member from the public put forward. 1500
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Given the scenario that I also worked through with Bob Leland.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: With no pension at all, and this scenario factored in pension withdrawal number 3,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No hotels, sewer not repaid, we'd still need to reduce the budget by $810,000 to do right by future councils, right? Which, you know, I'm worried about the current too, but…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I do worry about the next citizens that are going to be sitting up here. We didn't even scratch the surface of trying to reduce anything close to $810,000 from the budget. Moving it from $960,000 to $850 is not acceptable to me, so if I had to vote for this now, it would be a hard no.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm fine with maybegiving staff time ifwe continue the budget to 2 weeks from now, to see if Mary can do better. And by better, I want to make sure that I'm very clear. All of this is employee cost related. 1505
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, our unions have been put on notice through multiple attempts to serve letters on them to come to the table with us in full open session to talk about this predicament. We can have allthe staff inthe world, according to one public commenter whosaid this a year, you can have fully staffed Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Outfit, and not have any money to doanything. 1507
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to beautify our parks, to save our water sewer. So this is untenable, and I'm not going to set up the next council for a disaster that I quite honestly walked into four years ago. So those are my thoughts. 1508
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anyone else?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I… oh, go ahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: A few years ago, and our then-mayor said that we would be out of money by 2026.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Agreed. And it didn't happen. We're in 2026, and we've got a 25% reserve.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I'm good with this budget the way it is. 1515
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I personally would like to… to push it out and send back with what we've… what we've got, and continue it till the next time, so that… because it… given the hour, given all of the
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: changes that we've made, I'd love to push it out to the next, because I don't even think we're going to get the capital budget done, but anyways, that's a topicafter we finish this, so I'm okay with pushing itout, tothe next, but I don't know where everybody else is at.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Bye.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'd be okay with approving this budget tonight. 1520
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And we're pushing capital, second part of that budget.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm okay with approving the budget. I mean, I was definitely a part of it, soI'm in a different place.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I alsodon't see how staff is going to do a lot of big, more cuts, and we've just added at least 150. Imean, the staff alreadytook $260 out of the budget from
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: two weeks ago, so… and then we added 150 back in, so I don't think it's fair to…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: add $150 back in, and then not approve the budget. That doesn't make sense to me, but… Anyway…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I would just like to say a lot of this budget is… is staffing, for sure, but we can't undo staffing. You know, we can, like, not do roads or something like that, and that's what I was trying to say. I didn't want to undo roads, I want to do the roads.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I'm also happy with, you know, the budget being at 8K, $800K deficit, considering how well we did last year, you know, when we made those savings. And as far as structural goes, you know, I think the future will, you know, has something to hold, and I don't…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: want to do less on roads, I want to do more on roads. But, you know, I approve the
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just want to say, I mean, that's a… that's very triggering for me, because that's what the last previous decade of council members did, and that's why we have the roads today, because that's where they always want to take it from, which is why I fought so hard. So anyway, I'm just saying, I hear you, but that's, like, a fallback that a lot of people did, and that's what's triggering people. No, I know, I know, I didn't misunderstand what you said, I'm just saying…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's why it's triggering, because we're in this situation, because that's where people always wanted to take from, and now we're in a bad place. So, at any rate, I mean.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead. I'd like to propose that we adopt the 26-27 fiscalyear budget as proposed withthe changes that this Council has, directed to staff.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is there anything else I need to say on that? 1534
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And to adopt, so I can read the resolution, or the motion for you. So, to adopt the fiscal year 26-27 budget, adopting the resolution, adopting the budget for fiscal year, and making appropriations forthe amounts budgeted, adopting a resolution,determiningand establishingtheappropriation limitsforfiscalyear26-27, adopting the resolution, the city for the expenditure plan for supplemental law enforcement services for fiscal
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Fiscal year 26-27. 1536
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then can I add, directing staff to bring back items as directed tonight?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll second it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So moved by Vice Mayor Maurer and seconded by Councilmember Hinton to adopt the budget actions as I just read. Councilmember Carter? Yes. Councilmember Hinton? Yes. Councilmember Zollman? No. 1541
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Vice Mayor Maurer? Yes. Mayor McLewis? No.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, thank you. I have a question. So, given that we have a time limit here.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Rather than doing the capital improvement.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can we, work to continue that, do all whatever verbiage we need to do, and then do we… would it be possible… I'm just looking at the, number 18, is that something that we need? So, if the Council has time, 1545
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If we wait to delay… adopt the user fees, then we will wait when… we will be delaying when we can charge the higher rates, so that will… 1546
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Some impact, you know, it's hard to predict what applications and things will come in.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But that means all of our fees between 1548
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: July 1 and July 7th wouldn't change, and then our…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Fees that are related to development, so planning applications, impact fees, all of those, they can't go into effect for60days. So, that's why I'm asking, we need to move it up. Yeah, that's what I… that was my whole point, is like, I think we need to move that one up, but…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No, but… and… but don't we need to, like, continue number 17 and give the date for next time? That's my understanding. Yes, you can take them out of order, or you can just continue that now. Yeah, so why don't we… with 17, I just need to read it, open it up, and then say we're going to continue it? Is that… 1551
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Am I understand… misunderstanding? You… you can… can just continue it. Oh, okay. Motion to continue it and not… Okay, so I'm… I need a… I'm gonna make a motion that we continue number 17, capital improvement budget, to the next council meeting, which is July… I mean, yeah.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What is the date? Sorry. 1553
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: such as July 7th, correct? I just want to make sure I'm stating this properly for the record.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hello?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can we just have this? 1556
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I want to make sure it's not holding up any… 1557
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can we just take a 5-second break? I just want to make sure holding up the CIP doesn't impact any of our projects. Okay. Okay. 1558
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Which, which…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So there is a request to open up the CIP to discuss specific projects, and then we can continue the remainder ofthe projects. 1560
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: tothenext fiscal meeting. Okay, is it a lot? 1561
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Two? Okay, alright, alright, so… alright, so we're gonna open up number 17, and then I'm gonna have Oriana guide us to the two that she needs us to address, and then we'll continue after that for the next meeting, everyone who's listening.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for that consideration. So I will skip the… Just tell us what page. We are going to…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's agenda page 52. 1564
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And tab J39 is the Moore Street Pump Station. 1565
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, this is a project? Are you with… Your microphone isn't working?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It is on. Hello? Yeah, you just gotta get closer, yeah, because people online can't hear you, and then I get messages. Alright, it's, J39, page 52, Moore Street Sewer Pump Station. Let me look here, I'm looking at J39? 1567
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is that what you said? 1568
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, TabJ, page 39 of TabJ. Okay. Did I get you there?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's like the light green. 1570
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So this is a project to re-line the wet well for the Morris Pump Station. It's out to bid right now. It bids next Wednesday, so we're hoping to award it at the July 7th meeting.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And this… we're trying to do this at the dry season when we have less, flows throughthe station,so that's why the urgency to try to get it constructed in August and September.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, does anyone have any… or did you want to go through both? You want us to just… does anyone have any questions on this one first? Just ask that. Just confirming it's,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 300… wait.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 25, 26, so it's $25,000. Am I looking? No, it's… $300. 25 is this year, $300 is budgeted for next year. $300, so we're approving $300. Okay, yeah, just want to say the math when we're approving it. Okay, so $300,000 for this year, for this…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Imminent project, okay? And then the second one is, tab J47. It's page 60 in the agenda item for the Calder Creek, storm drain. 1576
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And this is a project that's coming out of our flood resiliency master planning effortsthat they… the consultant that's helping us throughthat work recommended that we speak with someone who could help us get the sediment just out of the culverted section between Ives and
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The post office. Page47. 1578
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, it's Ives Park to Joe Rodatta Trail? Am I… no, what page? No, it's, Tab… TabJ page 26.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 26. Isn't it the Calder Creek Storm Drain? Well, Calder Creek… No, that's the, emergency repair project? The agenda report isn't matching their budget book, so… Right. Which one is… because I'm on page 47.071526.11. Yeah, that's page 47. Yeah, that's Calder Creek Storm Drain. That's page 47 with the brown. 1580
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Got it. Yeah, we were all on there already. So that one is $356,025.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 26, yeah. Or 20.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And we're in the process of permitting that work now. We've done the soil characterization to make sure there's nothing currently in the sediment that would cause any problems, but we would like to try to get the dredging done again before the winter season, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So this is… this is from where to where? I'm sorry, I'm just… I was parked for Joe. Oh, that whole area, like… Yeah, to where it opens up behind the postal annex. Where it opens up where? Behind the postal annex, where… Yeah, perfect. I… I'm good.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That needs fixed. 1585
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so is there anyone that has any questions about it? Otherwise, do we need to do a public comment on it, I assume? Okay. Yes, we do.

So this is for the public comment for the public hearing on the CIP for these twospecific projects. If you'd like to make a public comment, there is none in here. 1586
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Kate, can you unmute yourself, please? 1587
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kate: Yes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Can you see the timer? 1589
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kate: Yes, I just wanted to make, clear that it's very important that, when we're discussing these capital improvements, that Council, and the public understand where the money is coming from and who's responsible. So, I believe the Morris Street pump is coming from the SOAR fund.
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kate: Whereas the storm drain clearance is coming from the general fund, storm drains are not part of the enterprise funds. So, and I would love it if the budgets could clearly denote exactly where money is coming from to fund these projects, because 1591
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kate: I think when we're talking about, you know, for instance, forgiving the fraudulent loan that was made
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kate: from the general fund to the SOAR fund, it's actually money that then can be used for sewer infrastructure. So every time you're not overcharging rate payers, the money actually goes to capital improvements on the water and sewer system. So it's very important to have delineation between where funding is coming from.
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kate: There's the General Fund, the Water Fund, and the SOAR Fund. They're three distinct funds, and they should be recognized as such. Thank you. 1594
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Kate, for your public comment. If there's anyone that would like to make a publiccomment onthese twospecific capital improvement items, please raise your hand.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed on these two items. All right, thank you. We're back here at the dais. I just want to comment, and yeah, I see your… I just want to comment, is there a reason why we've never denoted… notated that on all of these? I agree. I mean, it would make it so much easier. It's noted right on the page, so… I'm trying to see where it's noted. If you look at funding source on this Morris Street, it says Sewer Capital Fund.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And if you look at the storm. 1597
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Flood mitigation, I mean, I just… No, it just says flood mitigation earmark, it's not clear, but that's general fund for… Well, that's coming out of our flood water. It's the flood resiliency Fund, so that's 127. You can reference it back to the special funds, but it is… it is the… some of the funding that was given to us for theflood that happened. Mark Levine's money back in 2019.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yay!
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Got it, okay. I'm just looking at them all. I'll have to look at them later. Okay, so if there's no other comments, then we need to make a motion for this, and also to continue, Alex, what is the proper… So, the motion would be to approve the Moore Street Pump Station project for $300,000.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: intheCalder Creek Storm Drain and Outfill silt and debris Remover Project for $356,026, and to continue the rest of the CIP 1601
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to the July 7th Council meeting, as a public hearing.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So moved. Second. All right. 1603
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So moved by Councilmember Hinton, and seconded by Councilmembers
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Zolman to approve and adopt the Calder Creek Outfill Project and theMoore Street project, and continue the remainder of the CIP projects to the July 7th City Council meeting at or after 6 o'clock p.m. Councilmember Carter? Yes.

Councilmember Hinton? Aye. Councilmember Zolman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer? Yes.

Mayor McLewis? Yes. Motion passes unanimously.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, we are speeding along. We need to address number 18, public hearing, updating scheduleof user and regulatory fees for use in fiscal year 26-27, that is administrative services. Ana, take it away. 1606
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, Madam Mayor, this update, the, city user fee and regulatory schedule for 26-27. The consultant and staff has reviewed 390 fees across all departments. Minor correction was needed, and there's one planning 1607
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: One new fee for planning, and it is hearing notice fees, and these adjustments… most of these fees are reflectingthe 2.18 CPI base, ofthe increase, and these adjustments do not expand any services, and most fees will take effect July 1st.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And,with that, City staff, recommend that the, City Hall… the Council hold the public hearing and adopt the resolution to update the fee schedule.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, thank you. Does anyone have any questions on this?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Just wondered why isn't a touch more? What was the, the percentage based on the increase?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, any other questions from anyone? Otherwise, we can go to public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Mayor. So this is public hearing on the user fee schedule. If you would like to make a public comment, I will come to Chambers first. Seeing none, I willgo out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom thatwouldlike to make a public comment for the user fee schedule, please raise your hand virtually. 1615
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, there is no comment for the public hearing. Okay, thank you. So, comments now. Anyone have a comment? 1616
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Someone's commented out. Okay.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, is anyone else? Any have a motion? Sure, I can… I can move,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: not exactly sure how to say it. I move that we approve the updating schedule of user and regulatory fees for use in fiscal year 1619
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 2026,27, as indicated in the staff report. 1620
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 1.5%,totaling ananticipatedfiscal impact of an estimated $27,000 increase in general fund revenues.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll second that. 1622
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So moved by Councilmember Hinton and seconded by Vice Mayor Maurer to adopt the resolution for the adoption of the user regulatory fees for fiscal year26-27. Councilmember Carter? 1623
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Councilmember Hinton? Aye.

Councilmember Zolman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer? Yes. Mayor McLewis? Yes. Motion passes unanimously.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, thank you very much. So, very quickly, let's see…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Regular calendar. Any additional agenda items that people want to request for the next meeting?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Soweneed to do public comment first, the second publiccomment first. No, that was… there's no additional… 1627
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We did the… Oh, I'm sorry, I… The regular agenda item earlier. Yeah. Additional public comment, so go ahead. Thank you, Mayor. So this is the opportunity for the second public comment period. If you did not get a chance to talk during the first public comment period, this isyour opportunity. 1628
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Please raise your hand virtually if you would like to make a publiccomment and did not speak during the first public comment period. 1629
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, there is no public comment. 1630
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So now, any requests? Sorry, got it out of order.

Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: City staff reports? Anyone wanna say? Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We have Agenda Review Committee meeting tomorrow. We have quite a booked July 7th, City Council meeting. Okay. And no further departmental… departmental reports are attached.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For, reference in the packet. 1635
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I have something to report, just so… because I know we all received an email today, about thegraffitiand Safeway and such, and I just wanted to just share… I think it's okay to share this. So, I've… 1637
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: myself, and the police chief, and Mary, and 1638
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Safeway and Annalee leadership. We've been meeting almost every other month, at least, about this since I became mayor, and we've been working on this and dealing with this, so I was surprised when I saw this email today, because we literally just met a few weeks ago, and we're continuing the meetings throughout the year. So I reached out to the, to the,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just wanted you all to know, I reached out to the folks that…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: residents there who actually were emailing about the issues and, and working on setting up a meeting with myself and Mary and the police chief, and we're gonnaall come together and figure this out, because, I mean, I've been… 1641
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I mean, Marion, we've all been meeting together for so much, so I'm not sure where the ball got dropped and why it wasn't all communicated, so I just wanted you all to know that that's something that I… 1642
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, a…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: took on today, just because it's something I've been working on for so… so many months, with… with all of this. And, I mean, and Safeway, I mean, we've been working with their leadership in… in East Bay and all over Northern California, and they said that they were taking care of all of that expeditiously when people painted on
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: graffiti on there. So anyways,all this to say is that that's something… I know everyone got an email, and I don't want to reply all, but I just wanted to report out that that is something
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, I'm taking on again, just because it's something I've been dealing with since last December.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, go ahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I usually don't report out, but today I was almost a little bit late because I was meeting with the farmer's market and to discuss their issues and their potential plans and their permitting, things. And, you know, it was a congenial conversation, and, you know, hopefully it'll… it'll help 1648
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Clear up communication and how we can create a win-win between the downtown businesses, parking and the homeless market. 1649
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anyone else? Everyone's tired, thank you all for… I know.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, if there's nothing else, then I say we're adjourned.

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ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE. SORRY WE ARE STARTING A COUPLE MINUTES LATE. LET'S GET STARTED IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN. MAYOR McLEWIS.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON IS ABSENT.

LET'S DO THE SALUTE TO THE FLAG IF EVERYONE WILL STAND WITH ME.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE

REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

SORRY I HAVE TO GET ADJUSTED HERE. AT EVERY MEETING WE DO A LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT. THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL ACKNOWLEDGES WE LIVE AND WORK IN THE UNSEATED ANCESTRAL HOMELAND OF THE SOUTHERN, AND COAST MIWOK PEOPLE.

TO PAY RESPECT TO THE PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE GENERATIONS OF THESE PEOPLE. THE

NEXT THING ON OUR AGENDA IS THAT WE WILL BE DOING INTERVIEWS FOR THE SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARY COMMISSION. HOW WE TYPICALLY DO THIS IS WE WILL HAVE THE

APPLICANT COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND CAN GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHATEVER IT IS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF. WE USUALLY DO ABOUT 2 TO 3 MINUTES AND THE COUNSELOR WILL ASK QUESTIONS. JUST WANT TO FIND OUT FOR FRED FIRST AND THEN WE HAVE SUZANNE. I BELIEVE FRED IS ON ZOOM.

CAN YOU PLEASE UNMUTE AND ALLOW VIDEO FOR FRED.

FRED, I'M NOT SURE YOU HEARD ME WHEN I WAS TALKING. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE US A QUICK OVERVIEW WE WILL MOVE INTO QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. I HAVE BEEN A SEBASTOPOL AREA RESIDENT SINCE 1974. I HAVE BEEN IN SONOMA COUNTY SINCE 1971. VERY ACTIVE EMPLOYMENT WISE. I

WORKED AT SONOMA STATE UNIVERSITY FROM THE ACTIVITIES OFFICER TO ASSISTANT, LEGAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT. THEN I OPENED A LAW PRACTICE AND PRACTICED LAW IN SANTA ROSA FOR A STRETCH. I WAS ON TWIN HILLS FIRE DEPARTMENT AS AN EMT AND FIREFIGHTER BEFORE THEY BECAME GOLD RICH. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH

THE LIBRARY INITIALLY THROUGH MY WIFE HELENA WHISTLER WHO WAS THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE FIFTH DISTRICT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. WHEN I HAD THE

OPPORTUNITY BOTH FROM CLOSING MY PRACTICE AND BEING A VALUABLE -- AVAILABLE TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE POSITION I DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND DO SO. I HAVE BEEN THE

COMMISSIONER REPRESENTING THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL FOR THE PAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. I HAVE A LOT OF THINGS I COULD SAY BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE A SCHEDULE AND I WILL GO WITH WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

INC. YOU. WE HAVE A QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, FRED FOR APPLYING AND YOUR PAST SERVICE. YOU ARE

AWARE WE ARE TRYING TO REVISE THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR THE COUNCIL LIAISON TO

THE LIBRARY COMMISSION TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT THERE'S A DUAL RESPONSIBILITY TO BE HAD WITH WHOMEVER WE APPOINT. DUAL MEANING THE FACT

THAT YOU OWE US LOYALTY AND DUTY TO ADVOCATE FOR THE NEEDS OF THE CITY WHILE ALSO HAVING RESPONSIBILITY AS PART OF THE LIBRARY COMMISSION. IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING?
YES. IT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE DONE. NOT JUST WITH WE LOST YOU THERE.

YOU GUYS FROZE
WE CAN SEE YOU AND HEAR YOU.

NOW WE CANNOT HEAR YOU.

THERE IS A PROBLEM.

WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

YES. I AM AWARE OF THAT, STEPHEN.

DURING YOUR YEARS, MY OBSERVATION BE IN THE COUNCIL LIAISON TO MOST OF THE

LIBRARY ISSUES HERE, DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN KEEPING THAT DUAL RESPONSIBILITY?
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I HAVE TRIED THE BEST THAT I CAN. THAT HAS GOTTEN ME IN A SITUATION WHERE I AM

NOT A FAVORED MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION AS FAR AS THE LIBRARY

ADMINISTRATION AND SOME OF THE OTHER MEMBERS GO, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN

STRESSING THE FACT THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE ROLES THAT A COMMISSIONER PLACE

AND SHOULD BE AWARE OF AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH WE

HAVE A GREAT JPA AGREEMENT, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME BALANCE BROUGHT

TO IT AS FAR AS THE ADMINISTRATION ASPECT OF THE LIBRARY AND GOVERNING PART OF THE LIBRARY. I THINK THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THAT.

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THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR?

CAN YOU TELL US HOW YOU HAVE ADVOCATED FOR THE NEED OF OUR LIBRARY HERE IN SEBASTOPOL?

GOING TO THE COMMISSION MEETINGS, I BRING UP WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THE CITY AND WHAT WE NEED AS FAR AS MORE SPACE. WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE COMMISSION

AND REALIZED THE ISSUE OF THE LIBRARY WORKING WITH THE CITY TO LOOK FOR AN

OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE SPACE OF THE LIBRARY, I FORMED A COMMITTEE THAT INVOLVED COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN TO START WORKING ON THAT.

THAT IN TURN HAS DEVELOPED INTO THE DESIGN IN THE COMMONS COMMITTEE. MY

OWN WHOLE APPROACH TO THINGS IS WORKING WITH PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO PROVIDING A SERVICE TO PEOPLE. WHENEVER THAT OPPORTUNITY COMES UP TO POINT

OUT THAT THERE IS A DISTINCTION IN TERMS OF LACK OF COMMUNICATION OR NOT

REALLY INVOLVING OUR COMMUNITY AND DECISION-MAKING, I HAVE WRAP THAT UP

AND VOTED WITH MY CONSCIENCE WHICH IS OFTEN TO BRING A NO VOTE WHEN I DON'T

SEE THE FACT THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN DEVELOPING A PROPOSAL FROM STAFF TO THE LIBRARY. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THAT'S A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.

YOU HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY AS PART OF THE JPA TO MAKE SURE THE EFFICIENCY OF THE ORGANIZATION I GUESS THAT'S A BACKWARD STATEMENT. I GUESS YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EFFICIENCY OF THE OPERATION. WHAT DO YOU THINK

YOU CAN BRING TO THE COMMISSION AS FAR AS TO IMPROVE ITS OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY, COST REDUCTIONS, OR BETTER USE OF FUNDS.

I THINK THERE NEEDS MORE, THIS STEPS BACK A LITTLE BIT IN TIME WHEN THE JPA WAS ORIGINALLY DRAFTED. I THINK WE ENDED UP WITH A GOOD AGREEMENT. I KNOW IT IS BASICALLY A GOOD AGREEMENT THAT MIKE McGUIRE'S COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER. THE

PROBLEM WHEN THEY HAD THE AGREEMENT DRAFTED WAS THAT THEY DID NOT IMPLEMENT IT. THEY DID NOT HAVE AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. WHAT THAT ALLOWED

WAS FOR THE LIBRARY TO FALL BACK TO THE DEFAULT MODE OF OPERATION WHICH WAS THE ONE THAT PRECIPITATED THE 2014 JPA AGREEMENT. I FEEL THAT THE LIBRARY

WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT IF IT WAS MORE COOPERATIVE WITH THE JPA MEMBERS AND

CITIES AND IF THEY WERE MORE INCLUSIVE IN TERMS OF INVOLVING COMMUNITY

MEMBERS, NOT ONLY IN RECEIVING OF SERVICE BUT IN HELPING TO DESIGN AND FASHION THE KINDS OF SERVICES THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. I THINK MY OVERALL FIDUCIARY DUTY IS TO THE PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS. THAT IS ALWAYS IN THE BACK OF MY MIND. I DO HAVE A SPECIAL FIDUCIARY DUTY WITH THE LIBRARY AND ALSO A FIDUCIARY DUTY WITH THE CITY TO BALANCE. IT IS A BALANCING THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR. THE BALANCING HAS NOT BEEN REALLY DEVELOPED OR EXPLORED OR IMPLEMENTED IN THE LIBRARY COMMISSION FROM MY POINT OF VIEW. MY PERSONAL OPINION IS I DON'T THINK THE LIBRARY IS AS EFFICIENT AS IT COULD BE. I HAVE TRIED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. IT'S BEEN A HARD ROAD TO GET WHAT LITTLE BIT HAS BEEN CHANGED, BUT I'M TRYING. AND I NEED YOUR HELP TO BE ABLE TO REALLY BRING THE

LIBRARY INTO IT A POINT WHERE IT IS PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO YOUR NEEDS AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT FOR ME? THAT IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD. I

HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND I KNOW THE BUREAUCRACY AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE INVOLVED. COULD YOU EXPAND ON HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP?

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WOULD INCLUDE STRUCTURAL ADJUSTMENTS. IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR WHAT THE CITIES

AND COUNTIES WANT IN TERMS OF HOW THE COMMISSION BALANCES THE

POLICYMAKING ASPECT OF THE LIBRARY WHICH IS THE COMMISSION AND THE OPERATIONAL PART OF THE LIBRARY WHICH IS THE ADMINISTRATION. RIGHT NOW, I

THINK THE COMMISSION, THE BEST EXAMPLE WOULD BE RECENTLY THEY DID A REDO OF

THE COMMISSIONER JOB DESCRIPTION AND SAID -- I BROUGHT UP AT THE MEETING THE

FACT THAT THEY NEEDED TO DO THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY'S BECAUSE

THERE WAS THE ROLE THAT STEPHEN TALK ABOUT EARLIER ABOUT REPRESENTING THE CITIES. THE RESPONSE THAT I HAD WAS THAT THE CITIES COULD TAKE CARE OF THAT THEMSELVES. I DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE -- I THINK THE

ORIGINAL FOUNDERS OF THE JPA -- YOU'VE GOT TO WATCH ME HERE BECAUSE I WILL GO ON FOR A WILD.

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VICE MAYOR?
YOU ASKED MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHAT OUR PROCESS IS IS WE WILL INTERVIEW THE NEXT

APPLICANT AND ALSO TO THE PUBLIC ARTS INTERVIEWS AND IS THAT WHEN WE ARE DOING PUBLIC COMMENT?

INTERVIEWS FIRST THEN HE WOULD COME BACK AND DO THE APPOINTMENT AND YOU

WOULD DO PUBLIC COMMENT
YOU WOULD DISCUSS THE APPOINTMENT. OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN VOTE.

THANK YOU.

OF COURSE. STICK AROUND. I HAVE SUZANNE TURK WHITE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM WE USUALLY GIVE 2 TO 3 MINUTES TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF, WHY YOU WANT TO DO THIS. WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY AND THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH THE SAME THING OF ASKING QUESTIONS. MAKE SURE YOU TURN ON YOUR MIKE. THERE IS A BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM.

HI. I WAS NOT PREPARED TO SPEAK. I WAS JUST GOING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I WILL INTRODUCE MYSELF. MY NAME IS SUZANNE WHITE. I'VE LIVED IN THE SEBASTOPOL AREA SINCE 1986 WHICH IS 40 YEARS. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE. I HAVE ONLY RECENTLY BECOME INTERESTED IN OUR LIBRARY. WHEN I SAW THE POSTING FOR IT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO HELP IN SOME WAY. I DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE THAT THE OTHER GUY DID. I DO HAVE BUSINESS EXPERIENCE IN BUDGETING AND I'M REALLY GOOD WITH NUMBERS AND THEY DON'T SCARE ME. I HAVE ENERGY. I HAVE A LOT OF TIME. ALTHOUGH I HAVE TO ADMIT I DON'T THINK BASED ON WHAT I WAS

LISTENING TO, I HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT MY ROLE WOULD BE WHICH IS A LITTLE DISCONCERTING THAT IS PROBABLY MY FAULT. I DID NOT ASK ANYBODY, FIRST OF ALL SO I WORKED FOR MANY YEARS, ALMOST 20 YEARS FOR SEBASTOPOL UNION SCHOOL DISTRICT. I RETIRED 22 YEARS AGO. I WAS PRETTY GOOD AT DOING THAT WORK, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW IT LENDS ITSELF EXACTLY TO THIS ROLE. THIS SOUNDS MORE LIKE MAYBE MORE PUBLIC RELATIONS KIND OF WORK. I HAVE TO ADMIT I'VE NEVER HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THAT. I HAVE PRESENTED REPORTS, I RECEIVED INFORMATION, I HAVE WORKED WITH INFORMATION AND MADE SENSE WITH IT. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR APPLYING. JUST OUT OF FAIRNESS I WILL KEEP THE QUESTIONS THE SAME. THE DUAL RESPONSIBILITY. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU

ARE GETTING UP TO SPEED ON WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD BE, BUT CAN YOU

SPEAK TO YOUR CURRENT UNDERSTANDING OF THE DUAL RESPONSIBILITY THE APPOINTMENT WOULD HAVE.

THE ONLY REFERENCE I REMEMBER WAS THE WORD LIAISON WAS USED IN THE

RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE LIBRARY COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL FOR ME THAT

WOULD BE MORE LIKE A COMMUNICATOR AND RECEIVER OF INFORMATION MORE THAN

A MASSAGER OF INFORMATION, BUT THAT IS JUST WHAT I READ OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

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INVOLVES QUITE A BIT MORE THAN WHAT THE JOB DESCRIPTION REALLY IS BECAUSE IT PROBABLY SHOULD SAY ADVOCATE. I THINK THE LIBRARY COMMISSIONER IS AN ADVOCATE. YOU ARE AN ADVOCATE FOR THE READERS, THE PEOPLE THAT USE THE

LIBRARIES, YOU'RE AN ADVOCATE FOR THE LOCAL JURISDICTION, AND YOU'RE AN

ADVOCATE FOR THE LIBRARY STAFF SO THAT WHEN THEY PRODUCE THE NUMBERS THAT

YOU WOULD ENJOY AND MANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS PROBABLY WOULDN'T ENJOY, THAT YOU CAN READ INTO IT AND HELP DECIDE THEIR DIRECTION. IT MAY BE THAT -- WE

WOULD LOVE YOUR PARTICIPATION AND MAYBE THIS IS JUST THE START OF THAT JOURNEY FOR YOU.

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THAT SOUNDS INTERESTING.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

IF YOU WERE APPOINTED, HOW WOULD YOU ADVOCATE FOR THE NEEDS OF THE SEBASTOPOL LIBRARY.

DOES THAT MEAN WITH THE CITY COUNCIL? IS THAT APPLIED OR ANYWHERE.

THE LIBRARY HAS CERTAIN NEEDS AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF LIBRARIES IN THE COUNTY.

THE COMMISSION IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, THEY VOTE FOR THE NEEDS OF ALL THE LIBRARIES. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE LIBRARY AND SEBASTOPOL HAS BEEN SHORTCHANGED FOR QUITE A WHILE. WE NEED A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR GETTING OUR NEEDS BETTER SERVED FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU ARE WORKING ON A BOARD, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THE BOARD?
THERE'S 11 PEOPLE.

SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO NETWORK WITH OTHERS TO DEMONSTRATE THE NEEDS OF THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL. I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION. HOW ARE YOU AT

NETWORKING TO MARK HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT ADVOCATING FOR OUR NEEDS CONSIDERING YOU WOULD BE ON A BOARD OF 11 PEOPLE.

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LIBRARY COMMISSION AS THE BOARD. MY ADVOCACY WOULD BE WITH THEM, NOT WITH THIS COUNCIL. IT WOULD BE WITH THE COMMISSION.

OKAY. THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING. MY ABILITY THAT I THINK I WOULD BRING TO

THAT WOULD BE TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY NOT ONLY SUCCINCTLY BUT ARTICULATE IN A

REASONABLE WAY WITH THE WANTS, NEEDS, AND DESIRES ARE, BUT ALSO, IT HAS

ALWAYS BEEN MY GO TO TO PROVIDE A WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN OR A SUGGESTION OR SOME TYPE OF OFFERING WITH IT THAT HELPS SELL IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAD ONE. YOU SAID YOU ARE GOOD WITH NUMBERS. ARE YOU

AN ACCOUNTANT TO MARK
NO. I HAVE RECEIVED SOME ACCOUNTING BUT ONLY SCHOOL DISTRICT ACCOUNTING WHICH IS FUND ACCOUNTING.

I JUST WONDERED. WE HAVE OTHER COMMITTEES. DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP HERE. SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON. WE HAVE ONE INTERVIEW FOR THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE. DON GREENBERG IS THE APPLICANT FOR THAT. JUST LIKE THE LAST ONE WE WILL GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS.

CAN YOU TURN THE MIC ON AND MAKE SURE WE CAN HEAR. THE PEOPLE ON SCENE CANNOT HEAR UNLESS YOU WERE ON THE MIC.

I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 50 YEARS. ABOUT A MONTH AGO MY FRIEND ROBERT BRANDT ASKED IF I WOULD SERVE ON THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSION AND I SAID YES. SO HERE I AM. HAS BEEN AN IMPORTANT PART OF MY LIFE FROM MY LIFE. I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH THE SEBASTOPOL CENTER OF THE ARTS. I HAVE A HOUSEFUL OF ART. I LOVE ALL KINDS OF ART. I HAVE OPINIONS. ON COLLABORATIVE. I'M EASY TO GET ALONG WITH. I THINK I WOULD DO A GOOD JOB. ANYTHING ELSE THAT I CAN SAY?
WE HAVE QUESTIONS.

YOU ARE APPLYING INVOLVED IN ARTS THROUGH A MEMBER ORGANIZATION AND YOU LIST THE SEBASTOPOL CENTER FOR THE ARTS. YOU SAID THAT YOU VOLUNTEER WITH THEM IN WHAT CAPACITY AND FOR HOW LONG?
MOSTLY AS A GALLERY DESK ASSISTANT FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. I AM THE FRONT DESK AT THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS. ALSO I'M IN CHARGE OF THEIR LIBRARY, A NEW THING. DEVELOPING AN ART LIBRARY, TAKING DONATIONS OF ART BOOKS, SORTING THEM, THROWING SOME AWAY, PUTTING SOME UP, DOING THE BEST I CAN WITH THAT.

THAT IS THE EXTENT OF IT.

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THANK YOU. I WILL WAIT FOR MY OTHER QUESTION.

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ANYONE ELSE? VICE MAYOR?
YOU ARE A PHOTOGRAPHER? YOU SAID YOU LOVE ALL KINDS OF ART. CAN YOU GIVE US

AN IMPRESSION OF SOME OF YOUR FAVORITE PIECES ARE SOME OF THE FAVORITE ART GENRE THAT YOU REALLY LOVE?
YES. I'VE BEEN INKING ABOUT PUBLIC ART. SO LET ME TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF MY FAVORITE PIECES OF PUBLIC ART. ONE WAS VERY LOCAL THAT I HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT FOR YEARS. DO ANY OF YOU REMEMBER THE DOOR TO HECK. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A WONDERFUL PIECE OF PUBLIC ART. IT WAS COLLABORATIVE. IT WAS WELL DONE, IT WAS BEAUTIFULLY DISPLAYED. IT WAS KIND OF CHARMINGLY SUBVERSIVE. FOR

THOSE OF YOU THAT NEVER SAW IT IT WAS A DOOR MADE OF CONCRETE SET INTO THE GRASSY KNOLL BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. IT WAS WONDERFUL. IT WAS PUT THERE

WITHOUT ANYBODY SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND PEOPLE WERE JUST LEFT TO DRAW THEIR OWN CONCLUSIONS. IT WAS SUBVERSIVE AND THAT IT WAS ACROSS THE STREET FROM TWO CHURCHES WHICH MADE IT INTERESTING FOR EVERYBODY. THE ARTISTS THAT DID IT WERE WONDERFUL. I'VE ALWAYS LOVED THAT PIECE. SCULPTURE AND MURAL ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE MOST ASSOCIATED WITH PUBLIC ART. THINKING

ABOUT MURALS THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL MURAL IN VENICE BEACH CALLED VENICE IN THE SNOW. WHEN I WAS YOUNG MAN IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS CAPTIVATING AND BEAUTIFULLY DONE. IT DISAPPEARED AFTER TWO YEARS WHEN AN APARTMENT BUILDING WAS BUILT NEXT TO IT. IT WAS ONE OF THOSE MURALS THAT JUST STAYED WITH ME FOREVER. THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD HOPE TO HAVE AS PUBLIC ART AND SEBASTOPOL. DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION. IN YOUR APPLICATION YOU SAID YOU THOUGHT ON THE LARGER BUILDINGS WE SHOULD HAVE MURALS. WHICH BUILDINGS DO YOU THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE?
I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE NOT LOOKED OR THOUGHT ABOUT IT. I FIGURE THAT WOULD BE PART OF MY JOB. I'VE ALWAYS LOVED THE WAVE. I THINK IT IS BEAUTIFULLY LOCATED.

IS THE PERFECT WILLING TO HAVE THAT MURAL ON. I BET THERE ARE OTHER SIDES OF BUILDINGS THAT WOULD BE EQUALLY WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE? VICE MAYOR YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW WE WILL GO INTO OUR NEXT PHASE

THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM WOULD BE FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE APPOINTMENT TO THE LIBRARY COMMISSION. YOU NEED TO DISCUSS, GO OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND COME BACK FOR ACTION.

GO AHEAD.

AS THE COUNSELEE A ON TO AT LEAST THE LAB AND A LOT OF THINGS LIBRARY RELATED I CAN'T SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH OF THE WORK FRED HAS DONE. HE'S BEING MODEST ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME HE CONTRIBUTES TO THIS POSITION. WE MEET AT LEAST MONTHLY. MYSELF AND SARAH. BEFORE BUILDING THE COMMONS IT WAS THE

THREE OF US AND MARY LOU SCHMIDT TO CONTINUOUSLY TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR LIBRARY AND THE NEEDS. AS VICE MAYOR MAURER INDICATED HOW LIBRARY ADMINISTRATION IS NOT MEETING THE CURRENT NEEDS. I FEEL LIKE NOW

MORE SO THAN EVER WE NEED TO STICK WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS DEMONSTRATED

THEIR DEDICATION AND PASSION FOR MAKING SURE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE DUAL RESPONSIBILITIES OUT OF THIS APPOINTMENT TO CONTINUE ON WITH FRED. ESPECIALLY

GIVEN THE CURRENT SITUATION WE ARE IN NOW WITH THE MOLD IN THE LIBRARY AND THE SHUTTING DOWN OF OUR BRANCH WITH NO DATE AT ALL. NOW IS THE TIME TO

CONTINUE ON, FIGURE OUT WAYS WE CAN SUPPORT FRED IF HE'S APPOINTED AND CONTINUE IN THAT CAPACITY. I WILL BE SUPPORTING FRED'S RENEWAL.

ANYBODY TO MY RIGHT?
I WANTED TO THANK SUZANNE FOR APPLYING. I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES YOU SEE

SOMETHING AND SHE OBVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED WITH IT WORKING FOR YEARS IN THE SCHOOL. IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT JUST TONIGHT IN MY DECISION I'M GOING TO GO WITH

THE PROVEN ENTITY IN FRED THAT HAS BEEN SERVING THE LIBRARY COMMISSION IS SO COMPLICATED AND THE JPA AND NOW WE HAVE MOLD. THERE'S JUST A LOT GOING ON SO

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SERVE AGAIN WITH HIS EXPERIENCE I WILL BE LEANING TOWARD FRED BUT I CERTAINLY

WANT TO THANK SUZANNE AND OTHERS THAT WOULD COME FORTH BECAUSE IT IS A LEARNING CURVE AND SOMETIMES YOU DON'T KNOW IT UNTIL YOU GET THERE. I WOULD

ENCOURAGE HER TO CONTINUE TO MAYBE VOLUNTEER OR PUT AN APPLICATION IN FOR OTHER THINGS BUT TONIGHT I WILL HAVE TO SUPPORT FRED.

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I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I ALSO AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE CONTINUITY OF HAVING FRED CONTINUE GIVEN THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES. SUZANNE, I TRULY HOPE YOU

WILL LOOK AT THE OTHER THINGS WE HAVE GOING ON AND CONSIDER VOLUNTEERING FOR THAT BECAUSE IT IS REALLY HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO STEP UP. I MANAGE 45 VOLUNTEERS IN THE ORGANIZATION I MET AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THEM. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY.

WHAT ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT TO MARK

WE WILL DISCUSS THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSION
JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE DISCUSSION OF THE CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENT TO THE LIBRARY COMMISSION. IF YOU WOULD LIKE

TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE IN HOUSE AND WE WILL GO TO ZOOM.

COULD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM OUT OF READ THE EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR OF THE SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARY WERE A DOZEN VOLUNTEERS GIVE RESIDENTS OF EVERY INCOME LEVEL FREE ACCESS TO OVER 1000 TOOLS. TO ME THAT IS THE PUBLIC LIBRARY MISSION IN MINIATURE. I WILL BE STRAIGHT. I APPLIED AFTER THE DEADLINE AND THAT'S ON ME. I AM NOT ASKING TO BE ADDED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

I'M ASKING FOR SOMETHING SIMPLER. BEFORE YOU APPOINT TONIGHT CONSIDER

HOLDING THE SEAT OPEN, REOPENING APPLICATIONS FOR TWO WEEKS AND INTERVIEWING A FULLER FIELD AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. THAT COULD LEAD THE SEAT

BRIEFLY VACANT AND IT'S A FOUR YEAR TERM AND A SHORT GAP IS A SMALL,

MANAGEABLE COST FOR GETTING A FOUR YEAR DECISION RIGHT AND LETTING THE POOL REFLECT THE SEBASTOPOL FIRST REQUIREMENTS. THE STAKES ARE REAL. OUR BRANCH

IS WIDELY RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE BUSIEST IN THE COUNTY SYSTEM PER SQUARE

FOOT DOING EXTRAORDINARY WORK IN A BUILDING THAT IS FAR TOO SMALL AND NOW CLOSED INDEFINITELY. THE SEAT NEEDS A DEDICATED ADVOCATE FOR THAT BRANCH AND FOR THE COMMUNITY HUB THAT WOULD FINALLY GIVE IT ROOM. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD BE. I MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO THE CANDIDATES YOU HEARD. AM ONLY ASKING FOR THE CHANCE TO EARN YOUR CONSIDERATION IN AN OPEN PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. NEXT TO ZOOM. KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE PLEASE.

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY TONIGHT BY A COUNCILMEMBER MAKING REFERENCE TO THE MOLD THAT IS CURRENTLY LEAVING OUR LIBRARY CLOSED.

I DO DISAGREE WITH THE IDEA OF A WARTIME APPOINTMENT OF A CONTINUING MEMBER.

I THINK WHAT THAT DOES IS WELL THE SUGGESTION OF CONTINUITY -- I'M NOT POINTING THE FINGER AT THE CANDIDATE BUT I AM POINTING THE FINGER AT THE CITY. THE

RELATIONSHIP THE CITY HAS HAD WITH THE LIBRARY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS HAS BEEN CONTENTIOUS. WE HEARD THAT TONIGHT THROUGH THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.

WHAT IS NOT CLEAR TO ME IS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN TAKING ITS RESPONSIBILITY OF

INFRASTRUCTURE, MAINTENANCE OF ITS OWN BUILDINGS, REGULAR INSPECTIONS OF ITS OWN BUILDINGS TO THE POINT WE ARE AT TODAY. THE IDEA THAT YOU WANT TO

CONTINUE WITH BUSINESS AS USUAL AND CONTINUE AN APPOINTMENT FOR AN

INDIVIDUAL WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE STATE WE ARE AT TODAY, THAT IS CONCERNING TO ME. THE MOST RECENT SPEAKER MAKE REFERENCE TO HAVING THE POSITION BE IN VACANCY. YOU WERE SO DELAYED IN YOUR APPOINTMENTS

EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT FOLKS WERE SITTING IN POSITIONS FOR MONTHS AFTER THEIR

TERMS WERE ENDED BECAUSE HE CANNOT SCHEDULE EFFECTIVELY THE POSTING OF THE POSITIONS, INTERVIEWING OF THOSE POSITIONS AND APPOINTMENTS. SO HERE YOU'VE

GOT SOMEBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN WHAT IS GOING ON IN A TIME OF CRISIS AND I THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT FRESH FACES.

THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS. I

WILL GO BACK TO ZOOM IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE APPOINTMENT FOR THE LIBRARY COMMISSION PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

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THANK YOU.

I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE OTHER POTENTIAL CANDIDATE THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE OTHER COMMENTOR. TAKING THAT ALL INTO CONSIDERATION I AM

STILL HUGELY IN SUPPORT OF CONTINUING ON WITH OUR CURRENT LIBRARY COMMISSIONER. I AM MAKING A MOTION TO REAPPOINT FRED AS THE LIBRARY COMMISSIONER.

GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING. I WOULD LOVE TO CONNECT WITH YOU. THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT. THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO DO, BUT I'M ALSO GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE CANDIDATE THAT HAS APPLIED. I WILL SECOND IT.

ANYONE ELSE?

I WANT TO THANK THE OTHER APPLICANT SUZANNE AND I DID NOT CATCH YOUR NAME BUT YOU CAME AND SPOKE TO US AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUGGESTION. I THINK AT THIS TIME THE CITY AND THE LIBRARY ARE IN A CRISIS SITUATION. I WANT TO HAVE THE CONTINUITY OF SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON ON THAT COMMISSION.

ALSO, I WOULD SUPPORT COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN'S SUGGESTION BECAUSE HE IS THE

LIAISON AND HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE LIBRARY NOT JUST FOR THE TIME ON THE COUNCIL BUT BEFORE THAT. I WILL SUPPORT FRED FOR THE POSITION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST.

MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN. SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE FRED. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

AYE.

VICE MAYOR.

AYE.

MAYOR.

AYE .

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NOW WE WILL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC ARTS APPOINTMENT PICK

UP ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS
I REALLY APPRECIATE DON COMING TO SPEAK. HE SEEMS LIKE AN INTERESTING PERSON.

I AM A BIG SUPPORTER AND I MOVE FOR HIS APPOINTMENT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE. IT IS A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT. IN CHAMBERS FIRST. SEEING THAT I WILL GO TO ZOOM.

ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

NOW I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FOR HIS APPOINTMENT.

I WILL SECOND.

MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR MAURER FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31st 2029.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING HERE AND BEING ON ZOOM. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. AS MAYOR EACH TIME I REMEMBER SOMETHING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF SEBASTOPOL. THIS TIME I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT SINCE 2023 THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL HAS RECOGNIZED JUNE 19 OR JUNETEENTH AS A HOLIDAY COMMEMORATING THE EMANCIPATION OF ENSLAVED AFRICAN AMERICANS. THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2023. CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON THURSDAY TO RECOGNIZE THIS HOLIDAY. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THAT IS HAPPENING THIS WEEK.. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROCLAMATIONS. ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST FROM ANYONE? OKAY.

NOW WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

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ZOOM, COME BACK UNTIL WE REACH THAT 20 MINUTE TIME LIMIT. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS?
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MY NAME IS DOUG. I LIVE ON PETALUMA AVENUE. I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE ISSUE OF SMOKE FROM A AND M BARBECUE. I AM GLAD THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL. WE NEED

SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES AND I REALIZE THAT BUT THEY HAVE TO CONTROL THEIR SMOKE. IN AUGUST I SPOKE WITH THE OWNER AND SUGGESTED HE HAD FILTRATION AND HE SAID THEY WOULD BE MOVING IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. I

FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE BAY AREA AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IN JANUARY. THEY EVENTUALLY REFERRED ME TO THE CITY. SINCE THEN I'VE BEEN IN CORRESPONDENCE WITH VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE CITY. IN MARCH IT LOOKED LIKE THE ZONING ENFORCEMENT WAS PROMISING. IN MAY THE SMOKERS DISAPPEARED AND IN JUNE THEY RETURNED. EVIDENTLY THE CITY STAFF AGREED TO SUSPEND THE

ENFORCEMENT OF ZONING REGULATIONS TO THE END OF THE YEAR TO ALLOW THEM TO RELOCATE. ESSENTIALLY THAT THROWS THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNDER THE BUS. IT MEANS

SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT WHICH IF LEGAL IS CERTAINLY NOT A GOOD PRECEDENT AND

THE SUGGESTION THAT WAS FLOATED TO REZONE IGNORES THE PURPOSE OF ZONING

ENTIRELY AND IS AKIN TO RAISING THE SPEED LIMIT BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS CAUGHT SPEEDING. FOR ME THE PREFERRED SOLUTION WOULD BE TO FIT THE SMOKERS WITH AN EFFECTIVE MEANS OF FILTRATION TO ELIMINATE OR SEVERELY REDUCE THE SMOKE. I

WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONTRIBUTE AND HELP DEFRAY THE EXPENSE OF SUCH FILTRATION IF SOMEONE IF THE OWNER CAN FIND A WAY TO DO THAT. THAT IS ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT TO ZOOM. STEVE, CAN YOU UNMUTE.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER.

I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THE IMPROVEMENT AT THE PARK. I HOPE YOU

GET A CHANCE TO GO CHECK OUT THE NEW FENCING THAT IS THERE IN THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT. IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. IT'S THE BIGGEST IMPROVEMENT I'VE SEEN IN THE PARKING THE 30 YEARS I HAVE LIVED HERE. I WANT TO COMMEND THE COUNCIL FOR TAKING THIS ACTION. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT IT DID NOT TAKE A COMMITTEE, A COMMISSION, AND CERTAINLY NOT A CONSULTANT TO PULL THIS OFF. IT TOOK THE COUNCIL DECIDING THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO. I AM HOPING WE CAN

CONTINUE THIS KIND OF LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT MAKES IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR TOWN. WE CAN POINT TO IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PLAZA. THE NEW TRASH CANS AS AN EXAMPLE OF THINGS WE CAN EXECUTE ON THAT DON'T COST A LOT. THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE $42,000 FOR THE FIRST PHASE AND IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE

TO GO CHECK IT OUT AND I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO SET ASIDE MONEY FOR THE

NEXT PHASE AROUND THE CENTRAL MEADOW BECAUSE THIS FENCING NEEDS TO CONTINUE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC ON IT. NEXT TO CHAMBERS. I WILL COME BACK TO YOU AFTER WE GO BACK OUT TO CHAMBERS.

FIRST OFF, I SAY BRAVO TO STEVE PEARCE. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HIM ON THE LOW HANGING FRUIT. I LOVE ANY IMPROVEMENTS. I AM HERE BECAUSE I FELT AFTER MY

PRESENTATION WITH MY PEERS ON THE ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE NEEDED MORE CLARITY ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. I WANTED TO FOLLOW-UP. WE RECOMMEND COUNCIL IMPLEMENT TIME TRACKING BY DECEMBER 1.

WE RECOMMEND THEY CANCEL DIRECT STAFF TO REFUND THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS $354,000 FOR EXCESSIVE ATTORNEYS FEES THE LAST TWO YEARS. IT IS CLEAR THE LIVES WERE INAPPROPRIATELY ALLOCATED. LEGAL FEES BECAME A DIRECT CHARGE. THE CITY RECOGNIZE THE MISTAKE AND WE CLASSIFIED. WE RECOMMEND COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO HAVE WATER AND SEWER RATES REMAIN STATIC AND NOT TO INCREASE JULY 1 AND

REMOVE THE TIERED RATES AS THEY ARE NOT BASED ON ACCURATE DATA, ARE NOT JUSTIFIED AND THEREFORE ILLEGAL. WATER PRICING SHOULD BE SET TO THE LOWEST CURRENT HERE WHICH IS $5.22 PER KCAL. WE SUGGEST LEAVING RIGHT STATIC UNTIL

NEW STUDIES CAN BE PRODUCED BASED ON NEW DATA AND ALL OTHER CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PLANS. WE ALSO NOTE THAT REMOVING TEARS AND STATIC RATES

WOULD HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND AND ALSO HELP ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, ILLNESSES, AND NONPROFITS IN THIS TIME OF ESCALATING COST. WE Agenda Item Number 1
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RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO ADJUST THE CURRENT COST ALLOCATION Agenda Item Number 1
MODEL IN THE FOLLOWING WAYS.

THAT IS TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. BACK OUT TO ZOOM. LISA CAN YOU UNMUTE. LISA, CAN YOU UNMUTE.

I GOT IT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS LISA PIERCE. I ALSO WANT TO TELL YOU HOW GRATEFUL I AM THAT YOU APPROVED FUNDING FOR THE NEW FENCING. WHAT A HUGE UPGRADE FOR OUR PARK AND IT DID NOT COST THAT MUCH. WE NOW HAVE TO MIDDLE

SECTION OF THE CREEK ALREADY NATURALIZED AND READY AND WAITING FOR SOME OF. THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN DONE SINCE IT USED TO BE A POND 27 YEARS AGO WAS MOWING THE GRASS. IT'S READY FOR SOME MOLD BOULDERS, LOW MAINTENANCE RIVER GRASS OR ACCESS. THE BALLPLAYERS WHO HAVE TO CLIMB THEIR TO RETRIEVE

BALLS, CHILDREN AND THE WHOLE COMMUNITY WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SAFELY ACCESS THE CREEK. IMAGINE IF WE HAD A GATE ON THE BALLFIELD SIDE THAT WAS

OPEN SEASONALLY AND COULD BE CLOSED IN THE WINTER WHEN THE CREEK CAN RUN DANGEROUSLY HIGH. IMAGINE HOW MUCH MORE APPEALING AND BEAUTIFUL THE NEW MIDDLE OF THE PARK COULD BE WITH THE FENCING AND LANDSCAPING. IMAGINE HOW

HAPPY PEOPLE WOULD BE TO SEE THIS AND HOW THE PARK WOULD SHINE DURING APPLE BLOSSOM AND OTHER EVENTS. IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT INSURANCE LIABILITY

HAVING A GATE THAT IS OPEN SEASONABLY THE CUSS DESIGN CALLS FOR NOT HAVING FENCING AROUND THE CREEK. THEY TOLD US THAT THEY WILL NOT COVER INSURANCE

UNLESS THE CREEK IS FENCED WHICH MAKES SENSE GIVEN HOW MUCH WATER THERE IS DURING STORMS. HAVING A SEASONAL GATE IS THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. LET'S KEEP

GOING WITH MAKING THE PARK BEAUTIFUL AND PUT IN THE BEAUTIFUL NEW FENCING FOR THE HEART OF THE PARK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT COMING TO CHAMBERS.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KEVIN KELLER. I AM ANOTHER ILLINOIS AVENUE PERSON

COMING FORWARD ALTHOUGH THIS IS MY SECOND TIME TO VOICE CONCERN ABOUT THE SMOKERS SITUATION. MYSELF, NEIGHBORS ARE DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED WITH THE

DECISION TO PERMIT THE SMOKERS TO CONTINUE THE COMMERCIAL HUMONGOUS SMOKERS TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. THE AIR MONITORS THAT ARE

CLOSE TO THE BUSINESS SHOW THAT REGULARLY WE ARE REACHING THE ORANGE LEVEL ON AIR QUALITY. AS PROBABLY MANY OF YOU KNOW WHEN IT REACHES THAT

LEVEL, THE ORANGE LEVEL, THE AIR IS HARMFUL TO PEOPLE WITH CERTAIN SENSITIVE

INDIVIDUALS WHICH IS DEFINED AS THE ELDERLY LIKE ME, CHILDREN, AND PEOPLE WITH CHRONIC HEALTH CONDITIONS. THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THAT SMOKER WHO ARE WITHIN THAT CATEGORY. VERY CLOSE TO IT AS A NURSING HOME. I

THINK A REALLY MAJOR DISCONNECT THAT OCCURRED IS THAT THE AIR QUALITY

MONITORING THAT THE CITY RELIED ON WAS BASED LOOKING AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REPORT WAS BASED ON MONITORS ON MORSE AVENUE OVER HALF A MILE AWAY. I AM SURE IT DID NOT REVEAL A PROBLEM. THOSE OF US THAT LIVE AROUND THE SINGER NOT SAYING IT'S A SEBASTOPOL WHITE PROBLEM. WE ARE SAYING IT'S A PROBLEM FOR THE FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT LIVED NEAR. I THINK I MADE MY POINT.

THEY GIVE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I WILL GO BACK TO ZOOM IF THERE IS

ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ANY ITEM NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. SEEING NONE, I WILL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ THE ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR CLOSED SESSION MEETING OF JUNE 1, 2026. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FOR REGULAR MEETING JUNE 2, 2026. APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION CALLING AND GIVING NOTICE OF THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 3, 2026 THE FIRST TUESDAY AFTER THE FIRST MONDAY IN NOVEMBER OF EACH YEAR FOR

THE ELECTION OF MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AS REQUIRED AND REQUESTING THE

SONOMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO COOL CONSOLIDATE THE MUNICIPAL

ELECTION WITH THE STATE BY GENERAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON THAT DATE PURSUANT TO ELECTIONS CODE. AND APPRAISAL IS GOING REQUIRING EACH CANDIDATE

FILING A STATEMENT OF QUALIFICATIONS PAY IN ADVANCE TO THE LOCAL AGENCY AND Agenda Item Number 1
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ESTIMATED RATE SHARE OF $900 AS A CONDITION OF HAVING A STATEMENT INCLUDING IN THE VOTERS. PLITT FOR THE ELECTION NOVEMBER 3, 2026. DO I NEED TO READ ALL OF THESE OUT LOUD?
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YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ EVERY SINGLE THING. IS THE KEY ITEM OF THE AGENDA.

APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER PER MUNICIPAL CODE 2.12.210

TO BE ASSIGNED OTHER DUTIES AND EXERCISE SUCH OTHER POWERS AS MAY BE DELEGATED FROM TIME TO TIME BY ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION OR OTHER ACTION. THE

ITEM IS TO APPROVE CLUTTER -- CRITICAL CLERK FUNCTIONS AND ASSIGN THEM TO THE CITY MANAGER UNTIL THE CLERK POSITION IS FILLED. APPROVAL TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO REVIEW THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST CODE. STATE LAW REQUIRES ALL AGENCIES INCLUDING CITIES TO ADOPT THE PUBLIC INTEREST CODE. STATEMENTS OF

ECONOMIC INTEREST AND SETS FORTH THE DISCLOSURES OF TYPES OF INTEREST THAT MUST BE REPORTED. THE CODES ARE TO BE REVIEWED AND IF NECESSARY UPDATED

EVERY TWO YEARS TO STAY ABREAST OF THE CURRENT STATE OF LAW AND ACCURATELY REFLECT INDIVIDUAL OFFICEHOLDERS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS.

THE UPDATE IS REQUIRED THIS CALENDAR YEAR. AWARD OF CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE DIG OUT AND REPAIR PAVEMENT REHABILITATION PROJECTS U.P. NUMBER 05 20- 2209. NUMBER 11, APPROVE FUNDED PROJECT LIST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026, 27 FOR THE ROAD REPAIR AND ACCOUNTABILITY ACT OF 2017. THE CITY MUST ADOPT THE

RESOLUTION FOR FISCAL YEAR FUNDING FOR THE ROAD MAINTENANCE AND REHABILITATION ACCOUNT. NUMBER 12, PROOF OF PAY RATES AND CHANGES TO THE APPROVED MOU FOR COMPENSATION AND BENEFIT AGREEMENT EFFECTIVE JULY 1, 2026.

APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION OF PAY RATES AND RANGES TO THE APPROVED MOU FOR BENEFIT AGREEMENT AFFECTED JULY 1, 2026. DOES ANYONE WANT TO PULL ANYTHING OFF THE CONSENT CALENDAR?
THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONLY 5 TO 12. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT I WILL COME IN TO CHAMBER FIRST. SEEING THEN I WILL GO TO ZOOM. ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE.

I CAN.

KENNY SEE THE TIMER.

I CAN. CONSIDERING THE TRACK RECORD THIS COUNCIL HASN'T DOING EXECUTIVE SEARCH. LET ME REMIND THE PUBLIC WE DID NOT GO THROUGH A SEARCH PROCESS FOR THE CITY MANAGER. WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND APPOINTED A CITY MANAGER UNDER

THE GUISE THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF EXECUTIVE SEARCH AMENDMENTS

DELAYED, NO UPDATE ON THAT PROCESS AND THEN AFTER A FAILED SEARCH WITH NO UPDATE THEN THE COUNCIL WENT AHEAD AND APPOINTED MARY WHICH IS GREAT. I

WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE COUNCIL'S STEPS THEY HAVE TAKEN SO FAR IN SECURING A CITY CLERK. IT WAS WELL KNOWN THAT THE POSITIONS WERE GOING TO NEED TO BE BROKEN UP AT SOME POINT. I AM VERY INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT THE COUNCIL

HAS DONE IN THAT PROCESS OF SECURING AND DOING AN EXECUTIVE SEARCH FOR CITY CLERK. WHAT THE ADVERTISEMENT HAS LOOKED LIKE. WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP HAS

BEEN WITH THE HR CONSULTANT TO SECURE A CITY CLERK OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO

GO AHEAD AND TAKE POWERS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED FOR POSITIONS WITHIN THE CITY AND HAND THEM OUT TO OTHER EXECUTIVES? WE DID THAT. WE HAD FOR MANY YEARS A CITY MANAGER/CITY ATTORNEY. I THINK YOU WOULD ALL AGREE AT THIS POINT THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY A MISTAKE. FOR HOWEVER MUCH MONEY YOU SAVED IN

CONSOLIDATING THOSE POSITIONS, THINK ABOUT THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT TYPES OF DECISIONS IN RETROSPECT. YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION, YOU HAVE THE DATA, YOU HAVE THE HISTORY. ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS AGAIN? ARE WE GOING TO CONSOLIDATE

POWER TO A HANDFUL OF INDIVIDUALS OR WILL WE PERFORM OUR DUTIES AND FIND CANDIDATES FOR THE POSITIONS OUR CITY DESERVES.

THANK YOU. IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS. SEEING NONE I WILL GO BACK TO ZOOM. ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED FOR CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WILL MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS.

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I WILL SECOND.

SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN. SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR MAURER .

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

YES.

COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN.

YES.

VICE MAYOR.

YES.

MAYOR.

YES.

CAT -- ITEM PASSES.

NEXT UP JULY 3 FIREWORK SPECIAL EVENT FEE WAIVER REQUEST FROM JUAN'S CLUB TWO-WAY FEE MATERIALS AND STAFF TIME OR 3 JULY FIREWORKS EVENT.

GOOD EVENING. THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT AS A REQUEST BY THE KIWANIS CLUB TO WAIVE THE EVENT FEES AND STAFF TIME FOR THE JULY 30 EVENT THAT IS COMING UP. IT WILL BE HELD AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR PUBLIC WORKS

STAFFING TO HELP SET UP BARRICADES AND POLICE STAFFING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL AS THE FEAST. I BELIEVE THE KIWANIS CLUB IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I CAN BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION.

WHO WILL BE ANSWERING QUESTIONS FOR US UP HERE AT THE PODIUM. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR CONTINUED WORK. I FEEL A SENSE OF

RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP ASKING THE QUESTION EVERY YEAR EVEN THOUGH I KNOW

WHAT THE ANSWER WILL BE ABOUT THE EXPIRATION OF QUIET ARE THINGS WE CAN USE

TO CELEBRATE FOR THE ANIMALS IN THE AREA, PTSD, VETERANS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. I ASSUME YOU WILL SAY THE COSTS ARE TOO HIGH BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THAT.

I AM GLAD YOU ASKED. WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT. I WILL ADD THAT I WOULD

LOVE TO LOOK AT NEXT YEAR MAYBE DOING SOMETHING A SMALLER PORTION OF THE SHOW WITH DRONES, TRYING THEM OUT. OF COURSE, THERE IS A HUGE OF EXPENSE SO IT IS DIFFICULT FOR A SMALL CLUB TO AFFORD THE EXPENSE. LAST TIME I LOOKED IT WAS CLOSE TO $200,000 TO PROVIDE A SHOW THAT WAS ANY'S ANYWHERE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE. SO YES WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT. WE HAVE SEVERAL CLUB MEMBERS THAT ARE REALLY INVESTED IN THAT AND I AM ONE OF THEM. I THINK KEEP ASKING AND WE WILL KEEP DOING OUR RESEARCH. IF ANYONE HAS ANY CONNECTIONS TO ANYONE

THAT CAN PROVIDE DRONES FOR EVEN A PORTION OF THE SHOW THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T THINK SO. I HAVE ONE OTHER THING WE DID THIS YEAR THAT I WANTED TO ADD. WE DID PURCHASE 24 CROWD CONTROL BARRIERS THAT PUBLIC

WORKS IS ALLOWING US TO STORE AND WE ARE ALLOWING THEM TO USE THEM FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES. WE KNOW WE NEED THEM TO SEPARATE THE AREA THAT PUBLIC

WORKS NEEDS ACCESS OUT OF THE EVENT SO WE WILL USE THEM FOR THAT AND HOPE THEY CAN BENEFIT EVERYONE IN TOWN.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. IF NO OTHER QUESTIONS WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU. THIS IS THE REQUEST FOR THE EVENT WAIVER FEE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING THEN I WILL GO TO ZOOM. IF ANYONE ON ZOOM

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE KIWANIS EVENT PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

BACK AT THE DAIS FOR ANY COMMENTS? OTHERWISE I WILL JUST MAKE A MOTION FOR THE EVENT FEE WAIVER FOR JULY 3 FIREWORKS REQUEST FROM THE KIWANIS CLUB. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?

I SECOND THAT
THANK YOU. MOVED BY MAYOR McLEWIS AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR TO APPROVE THE FEE WAIVER FOR THE FIREWORKS. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

YES.

COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN.

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YES.

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VICE MAYOR.

YES.

MAYOR.

YES.

CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. I THOUGHT IT WAS 6263.

THAT IS THE TOTAL OF ALL OF THE ESTIMATED STAFF TIME. THE EVENT FEES ARE $700.

SO WE ACTUALLY NEED TO APPROVE FOR ALL OF IT. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT.

I THOUGHT I HEARD MARY SAY 5000.

I DID THE EVENT FEE WAS NOT INCLUDED. WE CAN AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE EVENT FEE MATERIALS AND STAFF TIME FOR 3 JULY FIREWORKS. THE TOTAL IS 6000 -- 6263.

SO MOVED.

SECONDED.

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

YES.

COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON.

YES.

VICE MAYOR.

YES.

MAYOR.

YES.

MOTION PASSES.

NEXT UP IS PUBLIC HEARING CALIFORNIA SENATE BILL WAS APPROVED AND ADDED 350.23 TWO A GOVERNMENT CODE. THIS REQUIRES PUBLIC AGENCIES TO HOLD PUBLIC

HEARING AND RECEIVE THE AGENCY REPORT ON THE STATUS OF VACANCIES AND RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION EFFORTS. NUMBER TWO, DURING THE HEARING IDENTIFY

NECESSARY CHANGES TO POLICIES, PROCEDURES AND RECRUITMENT ACTIVITIES THAT MAY LEAD TO HIRING OBSTACLES AND ALLOW PRESENTATION OF THE HEARING. IF THE

NUMBERED JOB VACANCIES NEEDS ARE EXCEEDS POSITIONS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION DURING PUBLIC HEARING. THIS REQUIRES PUBLIC AGENCIES TO REPORT ANNUALLY AT A

PUBLIC HEARING ON STAFFING VACANCIES AND RECRUITMENT RETENTION EFFORTS AND PROVIDE ORGANIZATIONS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE CITY MANAGER AND DEBRA. ARE YOU COMING UP TO DO THE PRESENTATION? THANK YOU FOR SAYING ALL OF THAT. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS THE SECOND ANNUAL

STATUS OF THE VACANCIES IN THE CITY LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT THE LAW WAS IN PLACE. THIS YEAR I'M ACTUALLY VERY HAPPY TO SAY THE VACANCY NUMBERS IN THE CITY HAVE IMPROVED. THEY WERE 17% OVERALL. THEY ARE 14% OVERALL THIS YEAR. LAST YEAR SEI YOU HAD A 22% VACANCY WHICH RAISE THE BAR ON WHAT WE HAD TO REPORT REGARDING THE VACANCY. THIS YEAR THEY HAVE ONLY 11% SO THERE HAS BEEN QUITE A BIT OF PROGRESS IN FILLING POSITIONS IN THE BARGAINING GROUP.

ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT THIS LAW IS IT DOES SHED LIGHT ON THE RECRUITMENT

PRACTICES IN THE PUBLIC ENTITIES AND THAT IS THE PURPOSE THE LEGISLATURE HAD IN MIND WHEN THEY OFFERED THIS UP FOR A VOTE. THIS YEAR WE DO NOT HAVE OTHER

THAN IN THE MANAGEMENT GROUP WE DON'T HAVE ANY REPRESENTED ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE HIGHER THAN 20% VACANCY. THAT MEANS WE SIMPLY REPORT THE STATUS

OF OUR VACANCIES AND MAKE A DESIGNATION THAT WE HAVE NOT FOUND ANY

POLICIES OR IMPEDIMENTS TO RECRUITMENT AND OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LABOR ORGANIZATIONS TO SPEAK IF THEY WISH AT THE HEARING. SEI YOU WANTED TO

BE HERE TO SPEAK TO EXPRESS SOME GRATEFULNESS TO THE COUNCIL FOR THE COLLABORATION WE HAVE HAD OVER THE EFFORTS TO RECRUIT. I DID NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE IN TIME FOR THE DOCUMENT. I WILL OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL FOR YOU TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER YOUR DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE HERE? OKAY. MARY

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WILL GO TO CHAMBERS FIRST. WHAT ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY? SEEING NONE, THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

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ANYONE BACK HERE AT THE DAIS?

WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE THE REPORT
I WILL MAKE THAT SHOULD.

I WILL SECOND.

IT -- I DID NOT GET THE SECOND. MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED BY MAYOR McLEWIS. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WITH THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE STREETLIGHTING ASSESSMENT DISTRICT ADOPT THE

RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE ASSESSMENT DIAGRAM AND ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026, 2027. THIS WAS CONTINUED FROM THE JUNE 2, 2026 CITY COUNCIL

MEETING

THIS ITEM IS FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE LEVY ANNUAL ASSESSMENT THAT IS PROPOSED AND WILL BE COLLECTED THROUGH PROPERTY TAX.

THIS IS THE FINAL STEP IN THE PROCESS. TO FUND ONGOING LIGHTING MAINTENANCE.

THANK YOU.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE STREETLIGHTING ASSESSMENT DISTRICT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT I WILL GO TO IN CHAMBERS FIRST. SEEING NONE I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM IF ANYONE WOULD MAKE -- LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

THANK YOU.

ANOTHER MOTION TO RECEIVE THE REPORT?

THIS MOTION WOULD BE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ENGINEERS

REPORT CONFIRMING THE DIAGRAM AND AUTHORIZING THE LEVY OF ASSESSMENTS FOR THE STREETLIGHT ASSESSMENT DISTRICT.

SO MOVED.

MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED BY MAYOR McLEWIS TO ADOPT

THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE LEVY OF ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS FOR THE STREETLIGHTING DISTRICT. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER.

YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON.

YES.

COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN.

YES. VICE MAYOR.

YES.

MAYOR.

YES.

THE NEXT ITEM IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND GATHER COMMUNITY INPUT

FROM RESIDENTS TO VOICE OPINIONS CONCERNS WHICH MAY HELP SHAPE THE FINAL BUDGET. IT'S RECOMMENDED CITY COUNCIL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND PROVIDE DIRECTION FOR THE PROPOSED 2026 2027 BUDGET. STAFF RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL

CONTINUE THE ITEM IS GOOD THAT IS FROM THE LAST MEETING SO I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.

THANK YOU. SO AS YOU SAID THERE IS THE CORRECTION ON THE TITLE OF THE AGENDA ITEM. UPON CONCLUSION OF THE HEARING STAFF RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL CONTINUE THE ITEM ON JULY 7 IF NOT ADOPTING TONIGHT ARE THE UPCOMING. WITH THAT, THE ITEM IS A CONTINUATION FROM JUNE 2. AT THAT MEETING ON JUNE 2 PUBLIC HEARING SEVERAL DISCRETIONARY ITEMS THAT WAS INTRODUCED AS A PLACEHOLDER. THE BUDGET COMMITTEE MET ON JUNE 8. THE ITEM WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE PUBLIC OUR MEAL FOR $10,000 PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THE ARE IN THE. A PLACEHOLDER OF 75,000 WHICH WOULD HAVE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THE GENERAL FUND. REPAIRS Agenda Item Number 1
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IDENTIFIED AS PRIORITIES. THE COUNCIL CONTINUE TO DELIBERATE TONIGHT. THIS COMES SINCE JUNE 2 RELATED TO A VACANT POSITION WHETHER IT WILL BE SUSPENDED OR PUT ON HOLD. WITH THAT I WILL CONCLUDE MY BRIEF STAFF REPORT PRESENTATION AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

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CAN YOU REMIND ME WHERE THE EA IFT WILL BE?
IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET BOOK. FROM JUNE 2 JUST AS A PLACEHOLDER I AM AWARE OF THAT. I JUST WONDERED.

YES.

COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID. THE POTENTIAL FOR A VACANT POSITION OR POSITION SUSPENDED.

THERE WAS AN EMAIL THAT WENT TO THE COUNCIL OVER THE WEEKEND. A POTENTIAL SUSPENSION OF THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER POSITION. THERE MIGHT BE A HYBRID TYPE OF HIRING IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THERE'S OTHER SERVICES AND SUPPLY

THAT COULD BE REDUCED FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS

AGGRESSIVELY TRYING TO IDENTIFY WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEAD TO IDENTIFY THOSE EXPENSES. THAT IS WHAT I AM REFERRING TO.

GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU. YES. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EMAILS GOING ON MOST RECENTLY. THE ONE

THAT I WANTED TO HAVE REDISTRIBUTED AND I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO SENT THIS TO US AFTER THE JUNE 2 MEETING PROVIDING A ROADMAP FOR EXPENSE REDUCTIONS AND POTENTIAL REVENUE GENERATION.

FOLLOWING UP ON VICE MAYOR MAURER'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE VACANT

POSITIONS, I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN GETTING TO THE BRASS TACKS OF HOW TO ELIMINATE HUNDRED $10,000. THE SCENARIOS I WANT TO ADOPT THAT WE ALL HAD A

CHANCE TO PITCH TO BOB LEYLAND, THAT'S HOW MUCH MONEY IT WILL TAKE FOR ME

TO GET TO A YES VOTE APPROVING THE BUDGET FOR TONIGHT BECAUSE I'M NOT IN ANY HURRY TO GET THE BUDGET PAST. I WILL ROLL IT OVER AS MANY TIMES, BUT I'M NOT

GOING TO APPROVE A BUDGET WHERE WE ARE NOT CLOSE TO RESOLVING A DEFICIT

GIVEN OUR VARIOUS SCENARIOS OF HOTELS OR REPAYMENT OF WATER FUNDS ET CETERA. MY ULTIMATE QUESTION IS TO MARRY. IS PART OF YOUR PROPOSAL TO ELIMINATE $810,000 TO SERIOUSLY NOT HAVE A BUDGETED POSITION FOR THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER? AND IS THAT A FIRM COMMITMENT? ALSO WAS THAT A FIRM COMMITMENT TO ONLY RECRUIT FOR STEP ONE FOR THE REQUIRED CLERK POSITION? I THINK THAT WILL GET US A LONG WAYS TO GETTING THE $810,000 REDUCTION. THAT IS MY QUESTION.

AS THE EMAIL WENT OUT WE WERE LOOKING AT SALARY SAVINGS. THE ASSISTANT CITY

MANAGER HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND WE DID DECIDE TO SUSPEND THAT SO WE WOULD NOT BE HIRING. THAT WAS PART OF THE REDUCTIONS. DISCUSSED THE CITY CLERK POSITION IN RESPONSE TO A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND SALARY RANGE WILL BE COMING BACK AT THE JULY 7 MEETING. THERE IS VETTING WE HAVE TO DO AS FAR AS HIRING AUTHORITIES. THAT WILL BE COMING IN AT A REDUCED SALARY RANGE. IT IS ALWAYS OUR GOAL TO BRING PEOPLE IN AT STEP A. THERE HAVE BEEN

SOME SITUATIONS WHERE SOMEBODY'S COMING AT STEP B BECAUSE THEY HAVE HIGHER

QUALIFICATIONS, BUT IT IS OUR GOAL TO BRING PEOPLE ON, BUT WE HAVE TO GET THAT REVISED AND THAT WILL BE COMING JULY 7. THERE IS A SUSPENSION OF THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AT THIS TIME. THERE'S ALSO DISCUSSION OF THE PLANNING POSITIONS AS WELL. I HAVE REVIEWED THAT AS MUCH RECENTLY AS THIS MORNING. THE GOAL IS TO HIRE AN ASSOCIATE PLANNER BRINGING ON AS ENTRY-LEVEL. WE HAVE HAD THREE RECRUITMENTS FOR PLANNING DIRECTORS. THEY HAVE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL. IT'S MY

RECOMMENDATION THAT FOR RIGHT NOW WE BRING ON A CONSULTANT OR CONTINUE WITH JUST THE PLANNING DIRECTOR CONSULTANT. WE HAVE NOT DONE THE CONDITIONAL OFFER LETTER YET FOR THE ASSOCIATE PLANNER. WANTED TO WAIT

UNTIL THE BUDGET WAS DONE HOPEFULLY TONIGHT OR AT LEAST GETTING DIRECTION BUT THAT WILL HELP TO REDUCE THAT DEFICIT BY ABOUT 130 BUT IT DEPENDS WHAT THE RFP COMES BACK WITH FOR PLANNING DIRECTOR. SO THOSE FOR STAFFING POSITIONS ARE WHERE I SEE ADDITIONAL FUNDING OF ABOUT $250,000 RIGHT NOW. IT DOES NOT BRING IT DOWN THE 800 BUT IT HELPS TO REDUCE THE 960 FOR THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS.

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A SAYING THAT IS FOR CITY CLERK AND THE PLANNER IN ADDITION? THE 200+ K THAT YOU MENTIONED, THAT IS INCLUDING CITY CLERK SAVINGS? I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND.

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SALARY SAVINGS AND BENEFITS BETWEEN THOSE WOULD BE REDUCED BY ABOUT 250,000 TO HELP RING THAT DEFICIT DOWN. SO THE POSITION IS A DUAL POSITION. WE ARE SEPARATING THE POSITIONS. WHEN WE BROUGHT THE BUDGET INITIALLY WE DISCUSSED HAVING TWO POSITIONS. RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING TO SUSPEND THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER POSITION. IT WILL COME BACK AS A LOWER SALARY RATE. WE WILL BRING ON THE ASSOCIATE PLANNER WITH CONDITIONAL JOB OFFERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT WILL BE BRINGING US AN ASSOCIATE PLANNER TO BE ON BOARD 40 HOURS A WEEK. WE HAVE A CONSULTANT IN THAT POSITION. WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR

PLANNING SERVICES BECAUSE WE HAD RECRUITMENT FOR THE PLANNING DIRECTOR HAS NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL. WE WILL STILL BE UNDER AND WE WILL BE SAVING ABOUT 130,000. FOR BOTH DEPARTMENTS THE PLANNING AND CITY MANAGER DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY CLERK DEPARTMENT WILL BE SAVING ABOUT 250. THAT IS ASSUMING NOT ASSUMING ANY FURTHER REDUCTIONS BASED ON WHAT THE RFP COMES BACK. IF THEY COME BACK HIGHER THE SAVINGS MAY BE A LITTLE LESS.

DO YOU MIND ME ASKING A QUESTION THAT IS ON TOP OF THAT BEFORE WE MOVED TO OTHER QUESTIONS. IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. LELAND, HE DISCUSSED THAT IF WE

HAD POSITIONS THAT WERE VACANT FOR GREATER THAN TWO YEARS WE SHOULD CONSIDER SUSPENDING THOSE AS WELL. ARE THERE OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN FROZEN AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT LONG AS WELL?

WE HAVE ONE POSITION IN PUBLIC WORKS THAT IS FROZEN AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE POSITION IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IS FROZEN. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHERS.

WE HAVE TWO FROZEN POSITIONS RIGHT NOW.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE?
TO REINSTATE THEM?
I JUST WONDERED WHAT NUMBERS ATTACHED TO THE METAL.

THEY ARE NOT IN THE BUDGET. THEY ARE FROZEN.

THERE IS NO SALARY ALLOCATED IN EITHER DEPARTMENT.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON HAD HER HAND UP.

IT FEELS A LITTLE FREEWHEELING RIGHT NOW. I WOULD LIKE TO REFER TO THE BOOK

AND NUMBERS AND THE DATE ON THE EMAIL SO WE CAN FOLLOW ALONG SINCE WE HAVE NOTHING ON SCREEN HERE WITH THESE NUMBERS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED.

WE WILL GET TO GOING PAGE BY PAGE. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WE WERE JUST

DISCUSSING THOSE ITEMS EVERYBODY BUT FORWARD BEFORE BUT WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THIS PAGE BY PAGE?
WE GET A LOT OF EMAILS. WHAT EMAIL SPECIFICALLY DID YOU SEND OVER THE WEEKEND? WHAT DATE AND TIME WOULD BE GREAT AND THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THESE NUMBERS.

I THINK WE ALL READ THEM, BUT GO AHEAD.

I HAD ONE OPEN YESTERDAY AT 1:16.

I WORKED ON IT OVER THE WEEKEND TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO ADDITIONAL REDUCTIONS. THE EMAIL WAS SENT YESTERDAY AT 1:00 P.M..

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS AND YOUR THOUGHT

PROCESS AND FROM THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AS A MEMBER OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, MY PERSPECTIVE, WE STARTED WITH THE 960 DEFICIT. WE ARE COMING IN WITH A $1.2 MILLION SURPLUS FROM LAST YEAR. PART OF THAT WAS $510 FOR ROADS THAT IS BEING CARRIED FORWARD. IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S A DEFICIT. WITH THE REDUCTIONS THE CITY MANAGER IS TALKING ABOUT NOW WE ARE AT 710 DEFICIT BUT 510 OF THAT IS ROADWORK THAT WAS CARRIED FORWARD WHICH IS PART OF THE SURPLUS. SO THAT PUTS US AT A $200,000 DEFICIT FOR THIS YEAR. CONSIDERING WE HAD SUCH A SURPLUS LAST YEAR I THINK FOR ME THE BUDGET MAKES SENSE. IF I COULD

SPEAK TO THE HONORING OF THE CHARLES SCHOLZ I'M NOT SURE THIS IS REALLY A QUESTION SO COULD I WAIT UNTIL LATER.

JUST TO KEEP THAT QUESTIONS.

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MY OTHER BIG QUESTION IS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE LIBRARY AND GET AN ANSWER DIRECTLY FROM CITY STAFF. I READ SOMETHING IN A WEEKLY UPDATE EMAIL THAT SIERRA IS NOT PAYING FOR THIS AT ALL. I WOULD LIKE THAT PUBLICLY DISCLOSED Agenda Item Number 1
THAT IS CORRECT. THE INSURANCE AGENCY DOES NOT COVER THE MOLD IN THE CITY BUILDING. I REACHED OUT TO THE GENERAL MANAGER AND CONFIRMED THAT. FOR

TRANSPARENCY CAN I DO A RECAP FOR THE PUBLIC OF WHAT THE ITEMS WERE THAT I HAD REACHED OUT OVER THE WEEKEND -- OR YESTERDAY. THERE WERE SALARY SAVINGS AS WE JUST DISCUSSED. THERE WAS THE HYBRID FOR THE PLANNING DIRECTOR AND FULL-TIME ASSOCIATE PLANNER. I DID REVIEW DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS FOR TRAINING SUPPLIES SERVICES SUBSCRIPTIONS. IN MY BUDGET I DID REDUCE SOME OF THE CONFERENCES, SOME OF THE SUBSCRIPTION SO I WAS ABLE TO SAVE ABOUT 10,000 THERE AS WELL. WE ARE DOING AN AGGRESSIVE COST RECOVERY FROM DEPOSIT ACCOUNTS MAKING SURE WE ARE TRACKING CONSULTANTS TIME. IF SOMEBODY BRINGS IN A PLANNING APPLICATION AND THEY HAVE A $10,000 DEPOSIT ACCOUNT TO MAKE SURE IT IS CHARGED ON THAT DEPOSIT ACCOUNT. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT BUT WE

NEED TO DO BETTER ABOUT THAT SO WE ARE GETTING BETTER ABOUT THE DEPOSIT RECOVERY. MEDICAL PREMIUMS WERE HUGE THIS YEAR. THAT WAS NOT ANYTHING WE HAD CONTROL OVER, BUT WE DID REACH OUT TO BARGAINING GROUPS. ONE HAS

RESPONDED AND INDICATED THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH PLANS, REVIEWS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IS STILL CONTINUING WITH EXPANSION OF SHARED RESOURCES. THIS IS BASICALLY IF LIKE ANOTHER CITY HAS AN EMPLOYEE WE CAN UTILIZE PART-TIME IT WOULD BE HAVE COST VERSUS FULL COST.

IF WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE OUT ON LEAVE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WE ARE SHORT STAFFED WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER CITY COME FILL IN FOR US. WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. THAT WILL HELP TO REDUCE COST. WE ARE REVIEWING LEASES AS WELL TO BE SURE WE ARE CAPTURING COST FOR THOSE. THEY'VE BEEN UNDER REVIEW FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS. ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES FOR SHELTERING HAS BEEN A BIG COST. THESE ARE BASED ON NUMBERS BASED ON THE HUMANE SOCIETY. THEY SAID 100 ANIMALS PER YEAR IS THE ESTIMATE. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAYS 60 ANIMALS PER THEIR ESTIMATE PER YEAR. WE WILL KNOW MORE WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS IF

THOSE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE AND WE WILL LOOK TO REEVALUATE THE CONTRACT BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY NEED SHELTERING. THEY DID COME IN AT 120,000 AND WE WORKED DOWN TO 90,000. WE ARE STILL CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM AND THEY ARE WORKING WITH US. THAT IS IN THE EMAIL. I JUST

WANTED TO BRING THAT UP FOR TRANSPARENCY TO THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE ARE DOING.

JUST ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE PROCESS MOVING THROUGH THIS TONIGHT. I'M INTERESTED IN DOING THE ASSUMPTIONS. GOING THROUGH THIS PAGE BY PAGE I'M NOT INTERESTED. AS I SAID AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING I TRUST MY COLLEAGUES WITH THE WORK THEY CAN DO WITH PUTTING TOGETHER THIS BUDGET BOOK. THE

PRESUMPTIONS WE WENT THROUGH LAST WEEK, I AM INTERESTED IN A THUMBS-UP OR THUMBS DOWN ON WHERE WE ARE. ARE WE REPAYING THE 1 MILLION WATER SEWER LOAN? AND THEN ALSO, IF WE HAVE TO DIP INTO OUR PENSION AT WHAT LEVEL? AND ALSO HOTELS. FOR THOSE THINGS IT'S A NO-BRAINER. OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE GOING TO

HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS ON THOSE PRESUMPTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE AND USE THAT VERSUS GOING PAGE BY PAGE. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DOING THAT. I WILL BUT I'M NOT INTERESTED.

I KNOW THAT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EVERYONE. WHEN WE ENDED THE MEETING EVERYONE HAD GIVEN AT THAT TIME ADDITIONAL THINGS THEY WANTED TO ADD. I

WANTED TO ASK IF ANYONE ELSE HAD SOMETHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD BECAUSE I DO

BECAUSE I WANTED TO GIVE EVERYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO BEFORE I PIPE UP ABOUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDED.

I AM ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF NOT INCREASING WATER RATES. THAT

SHOULD MOSTLY AFFECT ENTERPRISE LOANS AND I THINK THOSE ARE IN A HEALTHY

SPACE BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE GENERAL BUDGET AND I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN PUT THAT UP AS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

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I THINK THE REQUEST WAS MADE TO CONSIDER DEFERRING THE RATE INCREASES FOR WATER OR WATER AND SEWER?
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I GUESS LOOK AT BOTH AND MAKE SURE ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE HEALTHY.

FOR WATER ALONE IT'S ABOUT 11,000 PER MONTH. THAT WOULD BE A LOSS TO THE ENTERPRISE FUND IF WE DID NOT DO THAT. I'M NOT RECOMMENDING NOT DOING IT. JUST PROVIDING FACT IS. THE REGIONAL, I WOULD ONLY CAUTION THE SEWER BECAUSE WE PAY TO THE REGIONAL. WE HAVE PAYMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE TO THEM. IF THE

COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT CONSIDERATION OF NOT INCREASING RATES FOR THE WATER, I

WOULD RECOMMEND THE WATER ONLY BECAUSE THE SEWER WOULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT SUB REGIONAL RATES.

BASICALLY I UNDERSTAND THAT NOT INCREASING THEM CAUSES THE LOSS, BUT THIS YEAR IS OKAY?
NOT INCREASING THE WATER RATE. JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER. THE INCREASES ABOUT 11,000 PER MONTH. IF WE INCREASE IT IT WOULD BE WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE WOULD NEED TO TAKE THAT OUT PER WATER.

WE ARE NOT OPERATING AT A LOSS RIGHT NOW? CORRECT?
NOT FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

SO THE IMPACT IS JUST REDUCING THE INCOME BY $11,000.

PER MONTH.

SO THAT COULD BE A DISCUSSION. THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH WOULD BE MONTHLY.

WE ARE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE OF WHAT TO ADD. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER IS REQUESTING ADDING SUSPENSION OF THE WATER INCREASE EFFECTIVE JULY.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GO SECTION BY SECTION AS WE GET TO THOSE SO THEN WE WILL SAY THESE ARE THE ASSUMPTIONS. I JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THIS. I WILL SAY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDED, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET AS A SET ASIDE. HAVING ATTENDED THE

MAYORS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS MEETING THIS LAST WEEK THERE'S A LARGE DISCUSSION ABOUT DISTRICTS. IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO ME VERY STRONGLY THAT I NEEDED TO CONSIDER PUTTING IN THE BUDGET THE $50,000 IT WOULD TAKE AND BE PROACTIVE WITH THIS. CLOVERDALE RECEIVED THEIR LETTER AND NOW THEY ARE PAYING A FINE OF 40 SOME THOUSAND FOR RECEIVING THE LETTER IN ADDITION WITHIN 90 DAYS THEY HAVE TO CREATE DISTRICTS COSTING AN ADDITIONAL OTHER FEE. I'M NOT

SUGGESTING WE START DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ELECTIONS CUTTING UP BUT HAVE 50 CASE SET ASIDE TO START THE PROCESS AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. I FEEL LIKE IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY AFTER LISTENING TO EVERYONE AND HAVING MAYORS COME TO ME AS A GROUP SAYING YOU ARE ONE OF THE LAST ONES. HE WILL GET IT. THAT'S WHERE I AM WITH THAT. IT IS ONE OF OUR FIRST ITEMS. IT IS CONCERNING TO ME SO WE WILL SEE. THE FEES COULD BE MUCH HIGHER TWICE AS MUCH. I LIKE TO GO ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR ANY EXCEPTIONS OR THUMBS UP LET'S MOVE ON. JUST TO DO EVERY LINE AS SUGGESTED BECAUSE THAT WOULD TAKE US

THREE WEEKS
I'M GOOD WITH WHAT THE COMMITTEE PUT FORWARD. EVEN GOING SECTION BY SECTION IS NOT SOMETHING I'M INTERESTED IN DOING.

I AM KIND OF PARTIAL TO THE FOUR BIGGIES WE'VE GOT UP. WE WILL HAVE TO MOVE THROUGH THE SECTIONS.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT PIECES FOR THE DIFFERENT ONES. WE WILL MOVE IT QUICKLY.

I THOUGHT WE WOULD GO SECTION BY SECTION. NOW WE HAVE. I HAD NOT RECEIVED THAT EMAIL JUST THAT IS THE FIRST TIME I READ IT.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO BE INFORMED. IT IS CLEAR FOR EVERYONE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

AT THE LAST MEETING. I DID NOT BRING MY BUDGET BOOK.

THAT WAS JUST MY IMPRESSION. WE WERE JUST GOING TO GO OVER.

I WOULD SUPPORT WHAT COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN WAS SUGGESTING.

NOT ALL OF US CAN WATCH EVERY VIDEO.

I UNDERSTAND. IT'S JUST A CHANGE OF WHAT I EXPECTED.

WE JUST WANTED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

I THINK IT IS TRANSPARENT FOR THE REST OF THE CITY.

FOR TRANSPARENCY AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING.

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NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE BUT COUNCILMEMBER HINTON BROUGHT UP THE FACT

THAT SOME OF US ARE INTERESTED IN MAKING CUTS BUT IF WE DON'T HIT THE TOP FOUR

OF THE SCENARIOS THAT WERE DISCUSSED SOME OF US ARE GOING TO FEEL A REAL NEED TO DIG IN AND START LOOKING FOR PLACES. OTHERS I LIKE OF THE FOUR ASSUMPTIONS I

DON'T AGREE WITH ANY OF THEM SO FOR ME I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE FOUR BASIC ASSUMPTIONS WE DISCUSSED. ONE, WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO REPAIR THE WATER ALONE OR NOT. WHETHER WE WILL HAVE ANY RELIANCE ON ANY HOTEL, WHETHER WE

ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DIP INTO PENSION RESERVES AND IF SO WHAT AND WHAT WAS THE FOURTH ONE?
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WHETHER WE WILL HAVE TO REPAY THE LOAN OR NOT BECAUSE THAT GETS TO THE ALTERNATIVE ONE THAT I DISCUSSED WITH BOB LEE LINT. HE SAID IF YOU GO WITH WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN YOU WILL HAVE TO CUT HUNDRED $10,000 WITH THE

OUTGOING CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY SAY YOU NEED TO DECLARE A

PHYSICAL STATE OF EMERGENCY BECAUSE YOU'RE ONE STEP AWAY FROM BANKRUPTCY, I'M NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THAT. SO I'M FINE WITH JUST CONTINUING THE BUDGET UNTIL WE GET MORE CONCRETE THINGS FROM STAFF.

WE ALREADY HAVE THREE PEOPLE AGREE WE WILL GO SECTION BY SECTION. I WILL TAKE A THUMBS UP THUMBS DOWN SINCE WE CAN'T SEEM TO COME TO A RESOLUTION.

WHERE ARE WE?

I WANT TO HELP CLARIFY TO COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN THAT WE WILL ADDRESS

THOSE THROUGH THE SECTIONS WHEN WE COME TO PEOPLE, WHEN WE COME TO THE

WATER, WHEN WE COME TO THIS WE WILL ADDRESS THOSE THINGS SO WE COULD DO IT

BY SECTION BUT IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF PATIENCE AS WE GET THROUGH IT BUT THE RESOLVING OF THE $1 MILLION THINGS WILL COME AT THE ENTERPRISE SECTION OF THE BUDGET.

ONE MORE AND THEN I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ON.

I HAVE A LIST HERE HONORING CHARLES SCHULTZ NOT INCREASING WATER RATES THE

FUNDING MOVING TO DISTRICTS BUT THE WASTEWATER LOAN REPAY OR NOT, RELIANCE ON HOTEL MONEY AND USING PENSION RESERVES. I GUESS IT WILL RELY ON WHOEVER WANTED THAT DISCUSSED TO BRING IT UP WHEREVER YOU ARE IN THE BUDGET.

CAN YOU SAY THE FIRST TWO YOU SAID.

NOT INCREASING THE WATER RATES. ARE WE JUST GOING TO RELY ON WHOEVER WANTS

TO ADVOCATE FOR THIS TO BRING IT UP WHENEVER YOU ARE IN THE SECTION YOU ARE IN?

I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE STAFF FOLLOW ALONG SO WHEN WE ARE IN THAT SECTION WE KNOW WE ARE IN THE LIST.

THESE THINGS ARE NOT IN THE BUDGET.

BUT WE'VE ALL AGREED WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT.

USUALLY STAFF WILL KEEP TRACK OF IT.

SOMETHING ON THE SPREADSHEET.

ARE YOU PREPARED TO KEEP TRACK FOR THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. I PROMISE YOU WE WILL BE EFFICIENT WITH THIS.

DOES ANYBODY ON STAFF HAVE A BUDGET BOOK I CAN BORROW
ALL RIGHT. ARE YOU READY? THE FIRST ONE I HAVE ON HERE IS THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET. EDDIE BROUGHT UP I WANTED TO SET ASIDE 50 K FOR THE DISTRICTING. THAT IS THE ONE THING I WANTED TO CHANGE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTS TO ADD OR SUBTRACT.

CAN WE ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. YOU MENTIONED A FINE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH CITIES BEING FIND. AND THEN HAVING BEEN PART OF THIS DISCUSSION FOR AS LONG AS

I'VE BEEN ON THE DAIS BECAUSE EVERY CITIES GOTTEN HIT EXCEPT FOR US AND COULD

TODDY AND WE ALSO DO NOT HAVE A BIG LATINO POPULATION WHICH IS ALSO A FACTOR.

I BROUGHT THOSE THINGS UP AND THE ATTORNEY CAN ANSWER IT.

THERE'S TWO THINGS. ONE, IF YOU GET THE DEMAND LETTER TO TRANSITION AND

DECIDED NOT TO FIGHT IT WHICH MOST OF THESE DON'T BECAUSE IN MOST CASES IT'S

NOT A WINNING POSITION YOU HAVE TO PAY THE ATTORNEYS FEES FOR THE ATTORNEY WHO SUBMITTED THAT. IT IS CAPPED UNDER THE LAW IF YOU AGREE TO TRANSITION THERE'S INCENTIVE BECAUSE THE ATTORNEYS FEES ARE CAPPED. THEY ARE CAPPED AT Agenda Item Number 1
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$30,000 IN 2017 MONEY WHICH INCREASED BY INFLATION EVERY YEAR SO IT'S ABOUT $40,000 NOW. WHEN THE MAYOR REFERRED TO THE FINE THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS REFERRING TO. IN A DISH DURING TO DRAW THE DISTRICTS YOU WILL NEED TO HIRE WANT TO HELP YOU AND THAT'S BETWEEN $30,000-$50,000 DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH

YOU WANT STAFF TO HANDLE OUTREACH ON THEIR OWN VERSUS BUILDING A WEBSITE THINGS LIKE THAT. IF YOU VOLUNTARILY DO YOU AVOID HAVING TO PAY THE ATTORNEYS FEES BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THE DEMOGRAPHER.

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LET ME ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I NEED TO BE EDUCATED TO THROW MONEY AGAINST SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT CONSIDERED BEFORE. ONE WOULD BE THAT THERE IS LEGISLATION COMING POSSIBLY FOR CITIES UNDER 50,000. I THINK THAT IS STALLED OUT.

DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT?
THAT IS NOT REALLY ACCURATE.

MEMBER TWO, HOW MANY CITIES UNDER 7200 HAVE BEEN HIT WITH DISTRICT ELECTIONS IN CALIFORNIA.

I DO THAT. THEY ARE GETTING SMALL. CLOVERDALE IS UNDER 10,000 BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYONE AS SMALL AS 72.

WITH CAL CITIES THAT WAS UNDER OUR PURVIEW. SO MANY PEOPLE KEPT SAYING THAT.

IT WAS DETERMINED BY CAL CITIES AND THE LOBBYIST THERE IS NOT A WILL AMONGST

THE LEGISLATORS TO CREATE A LOT BECAUSE I PUSHED AND PUSHED FOR LESS THAN 30,000 BUT THERE'S NO WELL SO IT'S DEAD. THERE IS NOTHING MOVING ANYWHERE AS FAR AS LEGISLATION TO PROTECT SMALLER CITIES.

IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEGISLATIVE WEBSITE IT SAYS IT'S DEAD IT DOES ACTUALLY SAY DEAD.

THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THE CITY EVER GETS ONE. OUR DEMOGRAPHICS ARE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER CITIES. WHO RUNS FOR COUNCIL IS DIFFERENT. EVEN IF WE WERE TO GET ONE IT COULD BE SOME TIME. THE LAST CITY AND SONOMA COUNTY TO GET ONE BEFORE CLOVERDALE WAS THE CITY OF SONOMA WHICH WAS ABOUT 18 MONTHS PRIOR TO THAT. ON THE OTHER SIDE, MOST CITIES HAVE GOTTEN THEM.

JUST KIND OF CUTTING TO THE CHASE. SO THE SET ASIDE, MAYBE I SHOULD ASK THE MAYOR THIS. WOULD BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DISTRICT ELECTIONS ON THE RISK THAT WE WOULD POSSIBLY GET HIT WITH THIS LETTER AND HAVE TO PAY THE 30,000 AND ATTORNEYS FEES.

JUST TO SET ASIDE AND BE PROACTIVE. IF WE ARE PROACTIVE WITH THIS AND START

THE PROCESS, ONCE YOU START THE PROCESS THERE IS A TRIGGER WHERE THEY CAN'T COME AFTER YOU AND THERE'S A TIMEFRAME FOR THAT. I'M NOT ADVOCATING TO DO IT

RIGHT NOW WITH ELECTIONS COMING UP

YOU ARE THINKING THIS FISCAL YEAR YOU ARE ASKING FOR A SET ASIDE TO MOVE TOWARD DISTRICT ELECTIONS. WE DO HAVE THESE FINANCIAL CHALLENGES BUT WE SEE

WHERE CLOVERDALE -- THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AND THEY ARE PAYING ESSENTIALLY TWICE AS MUCH MONEY. I HAD NOT THOUGHT ABOUT THIS UNTIL WE HAD

THE DISCUSSION AT THE MAYOR'S AND COUNCIL MEMBERS MEETING AND THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.

I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE TRIGGER IS. WHO BRINGS THIS ABOUT.

NOBODY KNOWS.

THERE'S BASICALLY ONE LAW FIRM THAT SAYS ALL OF THESE LETTERS THEY REPRESENT

VOTERS WITHIN THE CITY ALLEGING THAT AT LARGE COUNCIL ELECTIONS THAT ARE

CONDUCTED AT LARGE RATHER THAN BY DISTRICT VIOLATE THE CALIFORNIA VOTING RIGHTS ACT. THE BAR TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN ONE OF THOSE LAWSUITS IS VERY LOW. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY CITY BEING SUCCESSFUL FIGHTING IT.

THIS MAKES ME FEEL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE FOR THIS LAW FIRM. ARE THEY PUSHING FOR PEOPLE TO FIND SUIT?

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SAY TONIGHT I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS

BASICALLY BECAUSE I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF DOING THINGS BECAUSE WE ARE FEARFUL OF A POSSIBLE LAWSUIT THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET. ALSO, IT WOULD BE CHANGING

THE WAY THE CITY VOTING HAPPENS AND WHO CAN RUN FOR OFFICE AND I'M JUST NOT WILLING TO SUPPORT THAT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TO. WE HAVE A Agenda Item Number 1
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HARD TIME GETTING GOOD PEOPLE TO RUN FOR OFFICE AS IT IS. I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THAT PHILOSOPHICALLY.

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PHILOSOPHICALLY I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT WE CAN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T

PREDICT THE FUTURE AND PEOPLE GET LETTERS AND WE COULD HAVE TO PAY TWICE AS MUCH MONEY. CLOVERDALE'S GOT IT RIGHT NOW. IT JUST KEEPS COMING UP IN THE

DIFFERENT COMMITTEES I'M ON AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THAT'S WHY WHEN WE

WERE AT THIS MEETING IT WAS A VERY STRONG RECOMMENDATION TO START BEING MORE PROACTIVE. SO THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT HERE. IF THEY SEND US THE LETTER TOMORROW WE HAVE TO DO IT REGARDLESS OF WHAT OUR PHILOSOPHY IS.

DOES THIS BECOME AN ELECTION ISSUE? DOES THIS GO ON THE BALLOT AND PEOPLE VOTE? THIS WOULD BE A DECISION THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD MAKE THAT WE ARE GOING TO DISTRICT. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE IF WE DECIDED
IT IS A LENGTHY PROCESS.

IF WE GET SLAPPED WITH IT WILL BE PAIN DOUBLE.

YOU ARE A THUMBS DOWN. WE WILL SEE HOW THIS YEAR PEONS OUT. MAYBE I'M A FULL. LET'S ALL MOVE ON. ANYTHING ELSE TO CHANGE HERE?
IS THIS PART OF WHERE YOU CUT ANYTHING? CAN YOU POINT OUT WHERE YOUR CUTS ARE?
THERE WAS NOTHING CUT IN THIS. I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S A SET ASIDE. THE COUNCIL

COMPENSATION IT WILL BE COMING BACK AT THE NEXT HEARING BUT THERE IS A COUNCIL COMPENSATION FOR THE INCREASED STIPEND. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IS TRANSPARENT. IT HAS NOT BEEN ACTED ON YET. IT IS ESTIMATED IN THE JULY 7 MEETING TO COME BACK.

ANYTHING ELSE. OTHERWISE WE WILL MOVE ONTO THE NEXT SECTION.

CAN WE GO BACK REALLY QUICK TO PAGE 41 WHICH IS THE CITY COUNCIL. WE TALKED TO MAIN STREET AMERICA AND WE WILL REMOVE THE $500 FOR MAIN STREET AMERICA DUES.

WHY IS THAT.

I SPOKE TO THE CURRENT ONES. THEY SAID THEY DON'T HAVE THE STAFFING AND DON'T THINK IT IS WORTHWHILE AT THIS POINT AND WE'LL RECONSIDER NEXT YEAR.

MOVING ON TO CITY MANAGER. THAT WOULD BE YOURS. YOU'VE ALREADY TOLD US A FEW THINGS.

FOR THIS BUDGET I WILL BE REMOVING SOME OF THESE DESCRIPTIONS AND SOME OF THE CONFERENCES THE CCM F SUBSCRIPTION WILL BE REMOVED. THE CONFERENCE WILL

BE REMOVED AS WELL AS WELL AS THE HOTEL, THE MILEAGE AND TRAVEL AND THING LIKE THAT. FUNDING REMOVED FROM THE LEAGUE CONFERENCE AND 1500 FOR THE LEAGUE CONFERENCE WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET.

YOU ARE KEEPING TRACK FOR ALL THAT.

I JUST NEEDED CLARIFICATION. THE CITY MANAGERS SAY HOTEL AND AIRFARE THE $1500.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE.

I JUST WONDERED IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE.

NOT IN THE CITY MANAGER BUDGET.

CITY ATTORNEY.

HOPEFULLY WE GET A DECISION ON THE ACLU LITIGATION THAT WE ARE SUCCESSFUL

AND DO NOT HAVE TO SPEND ANY OF THAT MONEY
FINGERS CROSSED. THE ACM, I THINK YOU ADDRESS THAT EARLIER BUT DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT FOR OWNER TO KEEP TRACK.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. THE CITY CLERK YOU HAVE THOSE ESTIMATES. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?
I WANTED TO MENTION I WAS PART OF THAT 10,050. SOME OF THOSE ARE THE SUBSCRIPTIONS, CONFERENCE AND RECRUITMENT. THOSE COST WOULD COME OUT OF THAT BUDGET.

HOW HAS THE 2627 PROPOSED BUDGET CHANGED. I'M LOOKING AT THE TOTAL EXPENSE BOTTOM LINE. WHAT IS THE NEW NUMBER YOU ARE PROPOSING.

THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 120. REDUCE THAT FROM THE CURRENT AS WELL AS THE 5000 FOR THE RECRUITMENT ON PAGE 54 FOR THE ACM. JUST SUSPENDED. I WILL ALSO BE Agenda Item Number 1
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TAKING OUT FOR THE I IC. THAT IS 555 ON PAGE 54. THERE'S ALSO DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS FOR THE SOCIETY OF HUMAN RESOURCES. THOSE WILL COME UP 400 AND Agenda Item Number 1
600. I DO NOT HAVE THE EXACT COST BUT IT WAS ON TOP OF THE 120,000 FOR THE SAVINGS AND SALARY.

CAN WE SEE IT ON THE SCREEN LIKE A SPREADSHEET?
ALL OF THESE THINGS CAN BE PUT HERE AND WE CAN SEE WHAT IS GOING ON.

YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE.

IF WE ARE REDUCING THE SALARIES AND WAGES ONE OF THE BENEFITS BE ALSO REDUCED.

DO YOU NEED A MOMENT?
I DO NOT HAVE SHARE PRIVILEGES.

WHEN YOU ARE MAKING THESE CHANGES ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE? THERE IS A REDUCTION OF THE CALIFORNIA CITY FOR THE CITY MANAGER. THAT AMOUNT GOING FOR 612 896. AND THERE IS NOTHING. REDUCTION.

IN THE CITY MANAGER THERE'S THE REGISTRATION FOR THE LEAGUE THAT WAS REMOVED AND THE TRAVEL FOR THAT.

THAT WAS REMOVED AS WELL.

ARE YOU JUST HIGHLIGHTING THOSE CELLS ON THE SPREADSHEET SO IT'S EASY TO IDENTIFY.

THEY ARE IN THE CELL ITSELF.

I DON'T SEE ANY THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER. FOR VISUAL PURPOSES.

IF YOU DON'T HIGHLIGHT IT AND MARKET..

I KNOW IT IS SMALL HERE BUT WHEN YOU SEE THIS THAT IS THE MAIN STREET. WHEN

YOU GO TO THE CITY MANAGER YOU SEE THE REDUCTION FOR THE CONFERENCE AND THEN THE 400 FOR THE SUBSCRIPTION. I WILL HIGHLIGHT THE ITEM BEING REDUCED.

WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT IS IF YOU ARE TAKING SOMETHING OUT THEN YOU HIGHLIGHT. SO WE FINISHED CITY MANAGER. WE FINISH THE ATTORNEY AND NOW WE ARE ON TO YOUR DEPARTMENT.

JUST CLARIFY FOR THE CITY MANAGER, CITY CLERK. THE SALARY BENEFIT FOR REDUCTION IN SUSPENDING THE ACM'S POSITION. AS WELL AS THE CITY CLERK. THAN 5000 FOR THE RECRUITMENT AND REDUCTION. THEN FOR THE SUBSCRIPTION. THEN 555 THE TOP TWO.

THAT LEAVES US TO ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.. SO THEN WE REMOVE THAT SHE FOA BUDGET A WORD.

CAN I ASK WHAT THAT IS.

THAT IS AN AWARD RECOGNIZING THE CITY
THIS IS BASICALLY PAY TO PLAY. YOU PAY YOU GET THE AWARD. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. IF WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PAINSTAKINGLY MONITORING A DOLLAR, A DOLLAR, A DOLLAR LET'S JUST KIND OF MOVE ON.

ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING THAT IS BEING SUBTRACTED FROM THE LAST TIME, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING. SO PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
[ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]I THINK THERE'S 120,000. AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE WERE ABLE TO SEE REDUCTION FOR THAT DEPARTMENT.

AND SO BUILDING.

EXCUSE ME. SO THIS WOULD BE WHERE THE EIFD WOULD BE DISCUSSED. AND THIS

WOULD BE WHERE, ANY MONEY TOWARD A MURAL WOULD BE DISCUSSED FOR HONORS OF SCHULTZ.

WHICH WOULD BE A DIFFERENT BUDGET.

WHICH BUDGET WOULD THAT BE.

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OKAY.

SO THE IEFD WOULD BE UNDER THE PLANNING, CORRECT.

CORRECT.

AND SO SOMEONE HAS ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL 75K. SO, THAT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION HERE IF ANYONE HAS COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.

SURE I'LL GO AHEAD AND START SINCE I ASKED FOR IT. WE'VE HAD A SUB COMMITTEE OF EIFD. ALTHOUGH WE GOT A LATE START WE'RE INTERESTED IN CONTINUING TO PURSUE Agenda Item Number 1
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THIS. WE'RE ASKING FOR A PLACE HOLDER, IT COULD ALSO BE FOR THE. SINCE IT'S UNDER

CONSIDERATION AND THERE'S A SUB COMMITTEE WE WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND

PUT IT IN AS A PLACE HOLDER IN CASE THE FULL COUNCIL DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT THE EIFD. THAT IS WHAT IT WILL COST TO HIRE THE COMPANY TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND COME UP WITH INITIAL MAPPING FOR THE CITY OF SEBASTAPOL.

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GO AHEAD.

YES, THANK YOU. TO THE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE SITTING ON THIS ACTIVE COMMITTEE. I FEEL LIKE I CAN SHARE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THE BUILDING THE COMMONS, THEIR REPORT, ACTUALLY WE JUST RECEIVED ONE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER REPORT ON JULY 7. THE NEXT TIME WE WILL SEE ALL OF THIS. WE JUST HAD A FULL DISCUSSION. THERE HAS TO BE SOME POOL OF MONEY SOME WHERE. AND THE ONLY WAY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THROUGH A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND A CONSIDERATION OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM THE COUNTY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET FROM THE COUNTY ANYTHING. WE NEVER GET ANYTHING FROM THE COUNTY. HAVING SERVED ON COUNTLESS ROLES, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET

ANYTHING UNLESS WE START ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THEM AND LEVERAGING AND EXPLAINING WHY IT'S IN THEIR BEST INTEREST DOING SOMETHING TO HELP. WITH OUR LIBRARY, WITH OUR MANY OTHER INSTITUTIONS. ALL OF THE WEST COUNTY. ONE WAY

TO ACTUALLY SIT DOWN WITH LINDA AND HER STAFF AND SERIOUSLY TALK ABOUT WHAT -R WE'RE DOING AND S*UBS TKAOEUZ THE COUNTY. OTHERWISE WHEN YOU ALL SEE THE REPORT FROM THE COMMONS THE NEXT TIME WE'RE HERE. YOU WILL BE LIKE THEY'RE HANGING THEIR HAT ON THAT. THEY'RE FOR SURE NOT GOING TO REVIEW THEM TO GET THE MONEY. THE ONLY WAY THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH ANY MONEY IS PRIVATE-PUBLIC MONEY. WHICH WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE. I FEEL

WE SHOULD REALLY START ACTIVELY EXPLORING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM THE COUNTY THROUGH EIFD OR THAT'S WHY I'M MOVING ON WITH IT.

HAVE THEY COMMITTED TO IT AT SOME POINT. SOMEONE ASKED FOR SOME MONEY AND THEY DIDN'T PONY UP THE MONEY.

LINDA WAS THE ONE WHO CAME UP.

I I'M AWARE OF THAT.

THERE'S NO REASON FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD NOT RECEIVE FUTURE FUNDS FOR PROPERTIES. THE REST OF THE FIFTH DISTRICT. WE KIND OF STALLED IT OUT.

BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY, BECAUSE OF OUR SALES TAX UNTIL WE GOT THAT PASSED

WE DID NOT WANT TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH EIFD AND AND MAKING A BET WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. WE STALLED THIS OUT AND DECIDED TO PULL

OURSELVES OUT OF THE ENTIRE FIFTH DISTRICT EIFD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR OWN IF THAT IS WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT I WAS ASKING IS, HOW MUCH AREA ARE THEY ACTUALLY GOING TO ALLOW IN THAT. BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THEIR OWN IN DIFFERENT PLACES. SO HOW MUCH AREA. DO -- HAVE YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS AT ALL ABOUT THAT?

WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO INCREASE THE AREA OUTSIDE OF THE CITY AREA WITH THE COUNTY. HOWEVER THERE'S A SMALL CHANCE THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR EFID. BUT ALSO THEY'RE GOING GET A MATCH LIKE 25% OF WHAT WE WOULD GET. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT PROPERTY TAXES WE WOULD CLAIM FOR THAT EIFD. THE COUNTY WOULD MATCH.

GO AHEAD AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST MEETING AND THEN I WAS TOLD THE COUNTY WAS NOT PARTICIPATING AT ALL. THE COUNTY WE HAD IN DECEMBER IS NOT THE SAME.

SO I WAS ALSO TOLD THAT THE DEAL WAS A BOND. THE BOND IS SOMETHING YOU PUT BEFORE THE VOTERS, SO I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT. AND, AND NOT GETTING THE COUNTY MONEY ASSURED. MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT TOO.

AND I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IF I CAN.

CAN I ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS?

CAN I JUST ASK MINE REAL QUICK THEN I WILL JUST, BASED ON JUST HAVING LIKE GOING

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KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SAID TO ME WAS, WELL UNLESS, YOU KNOW

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT MONEY IN THERE IN ORDER TO USE IT FOR DEVELOPMENT AROUND HERE. I MEAN IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS HERE. WITH OUR

SMALL SPACE AND THE LACK OF DEVELOPMENT THAT ACTUALLY EVER HAPPENS HERE,

SO I JUST, AND I HEAR TALK ABOUT THE COMMONS AND ALL THAT AND I'M ALL FOR PLANNING AHEAD. I MEAN I JUST PROPOSED SOMETHING TO PLAN AHEAD. BUT THIS JUST

FEELS, I DON'T, IS THIS PLANNING AHEAD FOR, I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND

HOW THIS IMPACTS LIKE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMONS NOW AND THIS IS PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE UTILIZED FOR 20 YEARS. IS IT REALLY A SOLUTION FOR WHAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT?
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COUNSELOR.

I WILL SECOND IT. YEAH TO ADDRESS WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MOWER SAID I THINK IT WAS VICE MAYOR. I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION WITH WHAT BILL AND I HEAD WHEN WE MET WITH OUR SUPERVISOR LINDA. WHAT SHE SAID IS SHE COULD NOT MATCH UP ON THIS MAPPING PROCESS TO START IT UP AGAIN LIKE SHE DID BEFORE. BUT, THAT WASN'T ABOUT MATCHING THE EIFD. SO, LIKE THEY'VE DONE FOR OTHER DISTRICTS. SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, I THINK THAT IS WAS CONFUSION. AGAIN WE'RE ASKING FOR A PLACE HOLDER SO WE COULD VET THIS OUT FURTHER. AND, YOU'RE CORRECT. IT'S PROBABLY 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF A BOND, BUT YOU ALSO DON'T HAVE TO BOND AGAINST IT, IS MY UNDERSTANDING. IT'S REDEVELOPMENT FUNDS BUILT UP SLOWLY LIKE IN A SAVINGS ACCOUNT. LIKE WE'VE BEEN PAYING AGAINST OUR PENSIONS. WITH THE MATCH, WHICH I RATHER HAVE OUR MONEY MATCHED THAN NOT MATCHED. WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A PLACE HOLDER SO WE CAN BRING IT TO THE FULL COUNCIL ONCE WE VET IT OUT MORE.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU. THE QUESTION I HAVE, AND I KEEP ASKING MYSELF PHILOSOPHICALLY. IS THIS CUTTING OUR NOSE OFF DESPITE OF OUSTS. -- OURSELVES. WE HAVE ALL THESE MONEY ISSUES AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT AWAY IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. FRANKLY I JUST HAVE A LOT OF RESERVATIONS LIKE I HAVE ALL THE TIME. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I'M NOT SUPPORT I HAVE OF THIS. MAYOR.

POINT OF ORDER HERE, ARE WE ASKING QUESTIONS OR ARE WE STATING OPINIONS HERE.

I'M GOING TO PUT IT ASIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT IT IN HERE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ABOUT. WE HAVEN'T TAKEN PUBLIC COMMENT. SO WE HAVEN'T.

WE'RE JUST TALKING 75.

YOU CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION. YOU'RE NOT TAKING A FINAL VOTE ON ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT YOU CAN, HAVE --
IT'S JUST THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN AS FAR AS 75K.

BUT THEN THE PUBLIC GETS TO COMMENT THEN WE WILL TAKE A FINAL VOTE.

YEAH, YEAH. THIS IS JUST ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO ADD THAT HERE AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT CAME UP LAST TIME. SO.

I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT ABOUT, ABOUT THE BOND. BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THE EIFD IS TO GET A BOND. AND THEN, IT SOUNDS LIKE, THE GOAL IS FOR A COMMONS BUILDING. BUT I HAVE CONCERNS THAT THE PUBLIC THAT SONOMA COUNTY IS RECEIVING TAX MONEY FOR LIBRARY. THE LIBRARY RECEIVES A CERTAIN TAX. AND IT

JUST DOESN'T SEEM, I MEAN, RIGHT THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE FUNDING A LIBRARY WHEN THE COUNTY ALREADY HAS A TAX THEY'RE RECEIVING. THEY SHOULD BE HELPING US WITH THE BUILDING. NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. I WANT THE LIBRARY. I WANT TO HAVE A BIGGER LIBRARY. BUT I THINK THAT THE CITY SHOULDN'T SHOULDER ALL OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY. SO THAT'S A CONCERN THAT I HAVE. I WOULD BE WILLING TO KICK THE CAN A LITTLE FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD JUST TO GET MORE INFORMATION.

BUT THEN RESERVE MY VOTE FOR WHEN WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION LIKE FROM THE COUNTY ETC., ETC.

SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN FOR THE 75K ASIDE.

IF I COULD JUST RESPOND QUICKLY. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS BECAUSE THE LIBRARY. WE TALK ABOUT THE LIBRARY IT IS ITS OWN SEPARATE GOVERNMENT AGENCY. IT IS NOT PART OF THE COUNTY. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE COUNTY, I THINK I'M WITH LINDA. IT'S LIKE THE LIBRARY IS ITS OWN GOVERNMENT AGENCY. BUT YOU'RE CORRECT IT'S SITTING ON A TON OF Agenda Item Number 1
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MONEY. THAT'S THE REASON WHY WHEN I BRING UP THE BUILDING THE COMMONS I DON'T WANT IT TO NECESSARILY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE LIBRARY. AND I DON'T REALLY NECESSARILY WANT TO GO IN THE COMMONS BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE EIFD.

I'M JUST USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THE EIFD MONEY. I'M I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT.

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FOR ME IT'S A CONCERN, WHEN WE'RE WILLING TO THROW 75 ASIDE FOR SOMETHING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE BENEFICIAL IN COUNTY -- ANY WAY. IT JUST SEEMS CONTRADICTORY. I'M JUST THUMBS UP.

I WANT TO CLARIFY MY POSITION, IS THAT OKAY.

YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO DO A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN FOR 75.

SO I WROTE TO BOB LELAND AND I GAVE HIM MY KIND OF WORSE CASE SCENARIO OF LIKE, NOT PAYING THE SEWER LOAN BACK. ETC., ETC. TO ME IT LOOKED LIKE IF WE HAD

THE HOTEL GOING, THAT THE EIFD CONTRIBUTION WAS GOING TO BE REALLY SMALL AND IT WON'T REALLY AFFECT THE LONG TERM. THAT'S WHAT I LOOKED AT. SO THAT'S

WHY I'M WILLING TO AGREE WITH THIS FOR NOW BUT RESERVING MY VOTE FOR ACTUALLY UNTIL WE GET MORE INFORMATION. WHICH I THINK IS GOING TO BE JULY 7th.

SO I THINK WE HAVE FOUR THUMBS UP. SO WE CAN JUST KIND OF MOVE ON FROM THAT.

SO, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE LIST WE'RE PLANNING? I JUST WANTED TO LOOK, WHAT IS THE HOTEL UNDER? BECAUSE WE -- WHAT WAS? I PUT THAT ON MY LIST HERE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER. SOMEONE MENTIONED THAT AS ONE OF THE ITEMS.

IT'S NOT IN THIS BUDGET, BECAUSE WE DON'T INCLUDE ANY -- I KNOW SOMEONE MADE A NOTE OF IT. ANYONE SPEAK UP NOW.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M JUST MARKING THESE THINGS OFF THE LIST AS WE GO. SO EIFD.

OKAY, MOVING ALONG. LET'S SEE, BUILDING, WE HAVE FIRE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ANYTHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS. IS THAT CORRECT, MARY? OH, DID I. I'M SORRY. OH I MENTIONED IT EARLIER AND THEN WE GOT BACK ON THE OTHER. SO ANYTHING WITH BUILDING. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE. AND THEN FIRE, NO CHANGES. AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE DON'T HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE, CHIEF. SO ARE YOU? IS ANYONE. OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THAT BUDGET? OKAY.

AND WE ARE AT PUBLIC WORKS. MARIANA.

GOOD EVENING, WE LOOKED AT THE BUDGET AGAIN. WE DID CUT $100,000 OVER THE COURSE OF THE BUDGET CYCLE WITH THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. SO WE DIDN'T IDENTIFY ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS SINCE THE LAST MEETING. THE ONE THING I DID WANT TO

ADDRESS FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS LOOKING AT PLACES WHERE WE SAY WE'RE REPLACING TURF. THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY PULLING THAT TURF OUT PER THE NEW WATER CONSERVATION LAWS. SO THAT MONEY IS TO REPLACE THE TURF IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE POLICE STATION. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME GRANT FUNDS FOR THAT.

OKAY. SO UNDER ALL OF THAT WOULD BE OUR STREETS, OUR PARKS AND LANDSCAPE.

PARKING LOT MAINTENANCE. JUST LOOKING AT ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS I DON'T WANT TO FORGET ANYTHING. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN THERE THAT I'M -- THEN YOU HAVE ALL THE SENIOR CENTER AND ALL THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS. SO WE'RE PRETTY GOOD. ANY, ANY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING COUNCILLOR.

WE TALKED ABOUT GOING BACK AND NEGOTIATING WITH OUR UNIONS ABOUT HEALTH BENEFITS. I'M ASSUMING IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT THAT WOULD IMPACT EVERYTHING. AND COULD WE BE SPECIFIC ABOUT, I RECALL THAT WE PAID FOR IN PLACE. I'M JUST GOING TO BE BLUNT. THAT SEEMS UNUSUAL IN TODAY'S PRIVATE SECTOR. AND IS THIS WHAT WE'RE GOING BACK TO NEGOTIATING ON OR WHAT IS OUR THOUGHTS. THEN I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD WITH ALL EMPLOYEES.

WE ARE NOT GOING BACK AND RENEGOTIATING. WE HAVE A THREE YEAR CONTRACT.

WHAT THEY WERE OFFERING TO DO BECAUSE OF THE PREMIUMS IS TO WORK WITH US AND SEE WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE OUT THERE. WE'RE NOT GOING BACK AND RENEGOTIATING THE PREMIUMS RIGHT NOW. THE SCIU HAS OFFERED TO WORK WITH US

TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON THESE PREMIUMS BUT WE'RE NOT IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM. WE'RE JUST WORKING TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

SO WE HAVE A THREE YEAR CONTRACT. AND JUST GOING TO BRING IT UP. DO MOST CITIES PAY FOR EMPLOYEES ENTIRE FAMILY HEALTH. IS THAT TYPICAL OR ARE WE STILL Agenda Item Number 1
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DOING THAT BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE. I'M GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION. BECAUSE I KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE HEALTH INSURANCE IS FOR US IN OUR BUDGET.

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I CAN'T ADDRESS WHAT OTHER CITIES DO RIGHT NOW. WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION BUT E DON'T -- WE DON'T HAVE THAT FOR TONIGHT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. BECAUSE THIS HAS COME UP IN THE PAST AND HAVING BEEN ON THAT COMMITTEE. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE ROOF

AND THE HOLES IN IT AND THE HOLES ALL OVER THE PLACE AND THE LEAKING AND EVERYTHING. WHAT IF WE BUDGETED IN HERE TO SOLVE THOSE ISSUES. ARE THEY ALREADY SOLVED. I DON'T THINK THEY ARE BUT CAN YOU HELP US TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS WITH THAT.

YEAH, YOU BET. SO THAT WAS ONE OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT -LGS. -- PROJECTS. THE NEXT ITEM IS TO LOOK THROUGH OUR CAPITAL. WE'RE WORKING WITH AN

ENGINEER TO GET SOME ESTIMATES ON WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND ACCOMPLISH THOSE THIS YEAR.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, THEY INEVITABLY ALWAYS NEED PARTS, PIECES, WHATEVER. I WAS TRYING TO DETERMINE IN HERE HOW MUCH WAS ACTUALLY SET

ASIDE FOR THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS ALMOST EVERY YEAR WE END UP WITH SOME SORT OF ITEM THAT'S COSTLY FOR THEM AND FOR US. DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT THAT

WHATEVER YOU HAVE IN THERE IS --

FOR THIS YEAR, SO WE DID MEET WITH IVES THE OPERATIONAL STAFF AND THE BOARD AND WENT THROUGH THEIR LIST OF THINGS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT THE POOL. AND SO WE BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR, THEY NEED SOME RESURFACING OF THE POOL. AND THERE'S DRY ROT IN ONE OF THE LOCKERS. SO THOSE WERE THEIR TWO MOST IMMEDIATE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CAPITAL RELAY FOR THE POOL. THE OTHER THING IN

THERE IS TO REPLACE ONE OF THE SOLAR CELLS THAT DO THE CHANGE THE SALT INTO CHLORINE. SO THAT'S JUST AN ITEM THEY FILL EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS. WE WILL MEET WITH THEM AGAIN NEXT YEAR TO SEE WHAT PROJECTS THEY WANT IN THAT BUDGET.

I ASK BECAUSE IT ALWAYS BECOMES AN ISSUE SOME WHERE DOWN THE LINE. OKAY, THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. OTHERWISE WE'LL BE MOVING TO SECTION D. NONDEPARTMENTAL EXPENDITURES. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE. I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE. OKAY SO LET ME LOOK HERE TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.

JUST GOING TO SEE IF ANY OF THESE ITEMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE HERE FALL INTO ANY OF THESE AREAS.

SO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD MENTIONED WANTING TO DISCUSS WHETHER TO TAKE MONEY, NOT FROM THE TRUST BUT TO TAKE MONEY FOR THE PENSION OBLIGATIONS.

THOSE ARE IN EACH SECTION OF THE BUDGET. YOU WILL SEE THE UIL, SO IT'S NOT WITHIN JUST ONE BUDGET. IT'S EACH DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THERE'S EMPLOYEES IN EACH DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. THAT'S THE REASON WHY MY PREFERENCE WOULD

BE TO TWO THROUGH THE FOUR PRESUMPTIONS WE WERE ASKED TO MAKE BASED ON ALL THE SEWER REPORTS WE GOT.

WE'RE HERE NOW AND WE CAN GO THROUGH IT.

FOR ME IT'S ALREADY 8:30. IT'S A THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN. CLEARLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE ENOUGH EXPENSES. 850,000. 250 IS A DROP IN THE BUDGET. SO WITH ALSO, OTHER PRESUMPTIONS THAT I'M MAKING FOR MY SCENARIO THAT I WORK WITH BOB LELAND ON. THAT ALSO ENCOMPASSES NOT PAYING THE WATER SEWER BACK. I'M NOT UNREALISTIC, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DIP INTO THE PENSION PART. WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO REGREATFULLY. IS THAT WHEN WE DISCUSS THAT PENSION DIP IN OR NOT. I'M KIND OF LIKE THE MAYOR I'M DEFERRING TO STAFF.

HOPEFULLY I'M EXPLAINING THAT I'M NOT GOING TO BE OKAY. KNOWING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INSURANCE TO PAY FOR THE LIBRARY. AND OTHER BASIC THINGS THAT JUST KEEP EXPLODING AROUND THE CITY. WATER, SEWER PIPES, MY VOTE IS GOING TO BE NO TONIGHT FOR SURE.RIGHT NOW I'M NOT JUST GOING TO BE PASSING A BUDGET THAT RIGHT NOW APPROVES A $900,000 DEFICIT.

SO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THE DIPPING INTO THE PENSION. DO WE HAVE THE SLIDE.

I DON'T SEE ANY WAY FORWARD.

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I SUGGEST THAT WE LOOK AT THIS NUMBER AND SEE IF WE NEED TO DIP INTO THE PENSION OR NOT. AT THIS POINT I DON'T SEE A NEED TO DO IT. BUT MAYBE AT MID-YEAR WE MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT. BECAUSE I WOULD PREFER IF WE DON'T NEED IT TO LEAVE IT THERE. AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE BACKGROUND ON THIS IS I LOOKED AT THE LAST SIX YEARS OF BUDGETS. AND I LOOKED AT WHAT WAS THE ADOPTED BUDGET AND THEN WHAT WAS THE FINAL END RESULT. WHAT WAS THE FINAL BUDGET. AND, MOSTLY, WE WERE OVER PREDICTED. WE OVERPREDICTED BY ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS. AND ONE YEAR WE OVERPREDICTED BY $3 MILLION. ONE YEAR I THINK IT WAS UNDER BY AROUND 300,000. MAYBE IT WAS OVER. I DON'T HAVE MY NUMBERS WITH ME. MOSTLY THESE WERE VERY CONSERVATIVELY PREDICTED BUDGETS. AND SO I THINK, AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL MID-YEAR.

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OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON.

CAN WE ADDRESS THE RESERVE LEVEL. BECAUSE WE'RE AT A RESERVED LEVEL 27.8.

UNLESS I'M READING SOMETHING WRONG AND WE'VE GONE DOWN TO -- OUR IDEAL IS BETWEEN 15 AND 20 I BELIEVE. WHAT'S THE POLICY.
15 TO 20. WE HAVE WITH THIS BUDGET RESERVE OF 25.8 TONIGHT. I AM JUST WONDERING.

I KNOW THAT MAYBE WE'RE KICKING THE CAN A LITTLE BIT DOWN THE ROAD BUT IT SEEMS LIKE OUR RESERVE BUDGET IS OVER WHAT OUR POLICY IS. I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THE URGENCY AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME ALSO. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.

ARE YOU ASKING, I'M SORRY.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CONCERN A LITTLE BIT. THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE $1 MILLION BETTER THAN WE EXPECTED. OR THERE OF. THAT'S GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND, INTO THE SAVINGS ACCOUNT. A LARGE POSITION OF WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS BUDGET IS GOING TOWARD REAL PROJECTS. ROADS THINGS LIKE THAT. THESE CAN BE ONE TIME EVENTS AND IF WE DID NOT WANT TO, BY POLICY DO SO

MUCH WORK ON THE ROADS, WE CAN WIND THESE BACK AND NOT HAVE THAT STRUCTURAL DEFICIT. SO IN A LOT OF WAYS WE MAY NOT HAVE TO DIP INTO THE PENSION FUND WHICH ACTUALLY, MAKES MONEY WHEN IT'S IN THE STOCK MARKET. WE

CAN MAKE MONEY WITH IT, AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE NEXT YEAR, IF WE'RE FACING THE SAME SITUATION WE HAVE A DIFFERENT POLICY TOWARD ROADS.

I'M THRILLED NOT TO DIP INTO PENSION. LIKE I SAID LAST MEETING, I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR THE PAST MISTAKES OF WHAT WE WERE EDUCATED ON BY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT EXPENSE BE ON THE BACK OF PENSIONERS. SO I'M THRILLED IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A MAJORITY OF NOT TOUCHING PENSION. SO LET'S JUST KEEP ROLLING THROUGH THIS AND SEEING WHERE WE'RE AT AT THE END OF THE DAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE.

WOULD THIS BE THE PLACE FOR A DISCUSSION ON RELIANCE ON THE HOTEL? BECAUSE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AS ONE OF THE ISSUES.

YEAH THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP HOTELS EARLIER.

I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT TOO. THAT WAS PART OF MY SCENARIO TOO. I'M 110, 110000% TO NOT HAVE TO RELY ON MONEY FROM ANYONE. THAT'S A 100% PASS FROM ME.

I AGREE WITH YOU. B I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER INVESTMENT TO HAVE A RETURN IN OUR INVESTMENT SO WE'RE INCREASING THE TOP LINE. WE CAN GO THROUGH

THESE BUDGETS AND ALWAYS TRY TO WHITTLE IT DOWN, WHITTLE IT DOWN, WHITTLE IT DOWN. WE'RE AT STAFF OPTIMALLY. WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS PUT MONEY

INTO THINGS THAT INCREASE THE I DON'T WANT TO SAY PROFITS BUT THE TAXABLE INCOME. THE MONEY GENERATING THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS.

WE'RE KIND OF BOUNCING NOW LIKE PING-PONG BALLS. I BROUGHT UP THE HOTEL EARLIER AND NOBODY SAID ANYTHING. SO NOW WE WANT TO DISCUSS IT. SO NOW I

WANT TO --
YEAH WE CAN'T COUNT ON IT, SO.

THAT'S THE MAIN QUESTION HERE, RIGHT. WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO HAVE, COUNT ON THAT. I WAS GOING TO SAY I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY HOTEL IN THERE SO I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. OKAY. RIGHT. FOR OKAY VICE MAYOR.

I'M LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND FORECAST ON PAGE 181 OF THE BOOK AND IT SAYS THAT FISCAL YEAR 27 IS PROJECTED TO BE A DEFICIT OF 16583. AND THAT'S BASED ON A PROPOSED BUDGET. THAT'S NOT THE ACTUAL BUDGET. AND SO, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT, IF Agenda Item Number 1
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WE'RE BASING OUR PROJECTIONS ON THIS YEAR'S PROPOSED BUDGET AND IT'S A MILLION

OVER, LIKE IT WAS LAST YEAR AND LIKE IT WAS THREE OR SO MORE IN THE THREE YEARS OF THE SIX YEARS. YEAH, I JUST, I THINK WE NEED TO RAISE MORE REVENUE. I KNOW WE

NEED TO RAISE MORE REVENUE BUT I'M NOT GOING TO, THESE ARE, THESE PROJECTIONS ARE JUST THAT. THEY'RE PROJECTIONS AND I'M NOT GOING TO BASE MY DECISIONS BASED ON THAT KNOWING, BUT KNOWING WE STILL NEED TO RAISE REVENUE. HELP THAT, I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE.

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WELL, THAT ACTUALLY IS NOT MY UNDERSTANDING. BECAUSE WHEN BOB WAS HERE, I

SAT IN THAT SAME PUBLIC COMMENTER WHO PUT TOGETHER THIS ROAD MAP TO EXPENSE REDUCTIONS. PEOPLE KNOW WHO HE IS. HE FREQUENTLY COMMENTS HERE. HE REVIEWED YOUR BUDGET TAKE. HE'S THE ONE THAT SENT THAT OUT SAYING THE FACT THAT CURRENTLY YOU'RE BURNING THROUGH $1.67 MILLION A YEAR OVER YOUR PROJECTED REVENUE. SO WHEN I PUSHED HIM ON THAT THE LAST MEETING, I SAID, BASED UPON WHAT WE'RE SITTING HERE THE E-MAILS ARE FIRST IT WAS 1.4 AND NOW IT'S 1.6, AND HE SAID I CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. IT'S ANIMAL SERVICES. WE'RE PAYING TOO MUCH. WHY ARE WE NOT LISTENING TO BOB LELAND SAYING THE FACT YOU'RE ANTICIPATING OF BURNING THROUGH 1.3 MILLION OVER YOUR PROJECTED REVENUE AND WHY ARE WE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. SO AGAIN, I'M

NOT GOING TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE BUT I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE TO PASS A BUDGET THAT AUTHORIZES LIKE A DEFICIT OF 900,000 JUST BECAUSE WE HAPPEN TO THIS YEAR

LOOK PRETTY, BECAUSE WE SAVED MONEY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FILL A CITY MANAGERS POSITION. NONE OF THIS MAKES ANY SENSE TO ME.

I WILL SAY, IT'S MOSTLY ROADS. I DISAGREE WITH THE COMMENTER. I WILL YOU KNOW, GO DOWN SAYING LIKE WE'RE PUTTING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY INTO ROADS. IF WE

COME TO THE PLACE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, REALLY ARE EXPERIENCING THAT STRUCTURAL DEFICIT. WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE ABILITY OF THIS TOWN TO RAISE NEW BUSINESS INTERESTS AND HAVE OUR STORE FRONTS FULL. THEN WE SHOULD START THINKING ABOUT LIFE DIFFERENTLY. BUT UNTIL THEN. WE NEED TO ACTUALLY YOU

KNOW GARDEN THE CITY AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE AND WANT TO SPEND MONEY AND WANT TO START BUSINESSES HERE.

I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AND TAKE BUT I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR 3-1/2 YEARS AND

THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT WE NEED TO INCREASE REVENUE, WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE CHAMBER. WE NEED TO DO THIS. NOTHING HAS COME FROM THAT. FOR ME I FEEL

PROTECTIVE OF THE NEXT COUNCIL WHETHER I'M ON IT OR NOT I DON'T WANT THEM COMING IN AND SITTING UNDER A DEFICIT. WHICH ALL OF US ARE UNDER. BECAUSE WE ALL BELIEVE THERE'S A DEFICIT.

THE ONLY WAY TO KILL IT IS TAKE THE ROADS OUT.

NOW THAT'S FIGHTING ROADS BECAUSE I'M THE ONE THAT FOUGHT FOR THAT POLICY.

WE'LL GO DOWN FIGHTING FOR THAT.

WE CAN DO IT WITH --
PEOPLE PAY TAXES TO HAVE ROADS, WATER AND SEWER. I WILL START FIGHTING ON THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY.

WELL, ALTHOUGH, WE APPROVED 40% OF THE POLICY TO GO TOWARD ROADS.

INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHAT I DIDN'T REALIZE IS WE HAVE CERTAIN DEDICATED FUND WHERE MONEY COMES IN FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF ROADS. AND I THINK, THIS YEAR, IT WAS NOT ONLY THE 40% FROM THE MEASURE U BUT IT WAS ABOUT 300,000 ADDITIONAL. THAT WENT TO ROADS. AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THE CIP. SO WE COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT, WHAT ARE THE INCOME FROM THE FUNDS. AND THEN, DO 40% OF THE MEASURE U. IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN THIS. SO YOU WOULD SAY WHAT IS THE NUMBER THAT THE 40% IS EQUALS. THEN YOU MINUS THE OTHER FUNDS.

THAT WASN'T THE AGREEMENT IN THIS POLICY. IT'LL BECOME AN ELECTION ISSUE FOR SURE. BECAUSE I FOUGHT FOR THAT AND I VOTED FOR THAT TAX ONLY BECAUSE EVERYONE AGREED TO THE 40% AND WHERE THINGS WERE AT. SO.

BUT WE WOULD STILL BE PUTTING 40%.

BUT YOU WANT TO TAKE IT OUT. YOU WANT TO ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL.

WE HAVE OTHER FUNDS THAT ARE GIVING MONEY TO ROADS.

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I KNEW THAT WHEN WE WENT INTO ARGUING. WHEN I WENT ARGUING FOR THIS 40%. I

PROMISED WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IF ANYBODY RENEGES ON THIS, I WILL COME OUT FIGHTING PUBLICLY ABOUT THAT. I'M JUST SAYING BE PREPARED. I JUST FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT PEOPLE DESERVE TO HAVE ROADS THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE COW PASS.

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SO THE PIECE ON THE TABLE WAS A RELIANCE ON THE HOTEL. AND I DIDN'T WANT TO SUPPORT THE HOTELS. SO WHETHER WE RELY ON THEM FOR FORECASTS. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE CAN UNTIL THERE'S YOU KNOW GROUND BEING BROKEN. BUT AS A BUDGET

COMMITTEE MEMBER, THIS YEAR WE ARE PLANNING TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN RAISE REVENUE. WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS. IT WILL BE PLANNED FOR SEPTEMBER AND

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A CREDIT CARD, THE CREDIT CARD FEES AND THAT WILL HOPEFULLY COME BACK TO COUNCIL.

SO CAN I ASK, MARY CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION. SO THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE HOTEL AND THE FUTURE PROJECTIONS DO YOU NEED US TO. I MEAN, WHAT, I KNOW IT IS.

I'M JUST ASKING YOU, DO WE NEED TO BE DOING ANY. I MEAN ARE WE DOING, I JUST WANT TO KEEP THIS MOVING BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS STUFF. I'M

JUST ASKING YOU DIRECTLY DO WE NEED TO HAVE A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN ON THAT AS FAR AS THE OVER ALL PROJECTION. BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS PART OF SOMETHING ALL OF US DISCUSSED WITH MR. LELAND WHEN WE DID THIS. COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS YOU BROUGHT UP. ARE YOU ASKING

FOR US TO ADDRESS STAFF TO REDUCE THE RELIANCE ON THAT FOR THE FUTURE

PROJECTIONS IN THIS AND THAT YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT, WITH THIS BUDGET.

WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. I JUST WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING UNDERSTAND.

AS FAR AS MAKING A DIRECTION AND THE FACT THAT ALL FOR FUTURE FORECASTING THEN I'M NOT INTERESTING IN SEEING ANY GRAPHS WITH THE HOTEL ON IT. I'M DONE WITH THAT OPTION.

MY OPINION IS THESE ARE SCENARIOS AND THIS IS A TOOL TO HELP GUIDE OUR INDIVIDUAL THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW TO FORECAST. SO LIKE, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT THERE'S A REALITY OF THE HOTELS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE POSSIBILITIES OR NOT. AND THAT'S WHAT A FINANCIAL ANALYST USUALLY DOES. IS THEY SAY LIKE HEY, IF YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW INCLUDE THIS IN YOUR THOUGHTS, HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AND IF YOU THINK THAT THE PROBABILITY OF HAVING A HOTEL IS QUITE LOW. YOU REMOVE THAT AND YOU LOOK AT THE SCENARIO WHERE THAT'S NOT INCLUDED.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE ALL DID WITH MR. LEON. BUT THE QUESTION STILL STANDS

HERE AS A COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS OR NOT AND I WANT YOU TO TELL ME -- AGAIN I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET. THERE'S A GENERAL FUND FORECAST ON PAGE 161. -- PAGE 141.

IT RAMPS UP IN FISCAL YEAR I THINK 29. AND SO, THE QUESTION IS FROM THE COUNCIL, THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN. YOU WANT THIS CHART TO BE ADJUSTED SO IT TAKES OUT ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE HOTELS?

IT WOULD NOT CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THE BUDGET BECAUSE THERE'S NO MONEY IN IT FOR THIS YEAR FOR THE HOTELS.

THE THUMBS UP IS IF YOU WANT THE NUMBERS OF THE FORECAST ADJUSTED.

CORRECT. THUMBS UP WOULD BE TO REMOVE THE HOTELS. THUMBS DOWN WOULD BE TO KEEP THEM AS IS.

OKAY, EVERYONE. DOES ANYONE, COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

WHY CAN'T WE HAVE ALL THREE.

YES PLEASE, HELP US MOVE FORWARD.

CAN WE REEVALUATE THIS IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A DOCUMENT IN AND HE'S BRINGING THAT FORWARD. I THINK THAT

DECISION WHEN IT COMES FORWARD WILL BE KEY WHETHER OR NOT THESE CHARTS, THE ASSUMPTIONS WILL CHANGE AT THAT POINT. I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR NOW LEAVING THIS IN. WE WILL BRING THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST BACK. I THINK ONCE WE HAVE SOME BETTER. MORE DETERMINANT INFORMATION AFTER WE LOOK AT THE AMENDMENT TO Agenda Item Number 1
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AND THE CITY COUNCIL FROM THE HOTEL DEVELOPER.

OKAY. AND I'M FINE WITH THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON YOU HAD.

YEAH, WELL, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. SO IT JUMPS UP IN 29. IS THAT WHEN THE FIRST, IS THAT, WHEN WERE WE STARTING TO ADD. BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT ALL ON ONE LINE THE DOT. WHEN WERE WE STARTING TO ADD NEW HOTELS. JUST TO CLARIFY HERE.

I BELIEVE 28 HAD A PARTIAL BUT WE EXPECT IN 29 TO HAVE IT FULL IS THAT CORRECT. 29 HAS A PARTIAL. SORRY. 29 HAS A PARTIAL. 30 HAS A FULL. A FULL YEAR.

SO THAT'S THE PARTIAL AND THAT'S THE FULL. OKAY. AND THEN, I THINK THE PERSON

THAT WROTE US IF I'M LOOKING AT THE RIGHT E-MAIL ALSO TALKED ABOUT HIELDSBURG IS AT 13. WE'RE AT 12. WHAT IF WE RAISE THAT 2% RIGHT NOW.

WHAT WOULD THAT INVOLVE? IF I CAN JUST ASK THAT QUESTION.

IT'S A TAX HOWEVER IT REQUIRES APPROVAL.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. AND THE CHEAPEST TIME TO PUT THAT ON THE BALLOT IS WHEN A COUNCILLOR RACE IS HAPPENING RIGHT.

YES, AND IN NOVEMBER.

OKAY, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

IS THAT TOO LATE TO GET THAT ON THE BALLOT FOR NOVEMBER? IT IS NOT THE DEADLINE TO GET TO THEM IS, THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST. 88 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION WHENEVER THAT IS. THERE IS A COST WITH THAT. IT'S PROBABLY $20,000. I DON'T REMEMBER. WHAT IT WAS FOR MEASURE U. THEY'VE GONE UP PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

IS THERE REALLY A RUSH FOR IT. BASED ON SINCE THIS ISN'T EVEN TILL 29. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. THERE'S NO.

WE WOULDN'T WANT TO PAY TO PUT IT ON WHEN WE DON'T HAVE AN ELECTION HAPPENING, CORRECT.

CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE EXPENSIVE. BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD -- TO THE MAYORS POINT FROM DOING IT IN 2028. OR WHEN EVER.

WE JUST HAVE ONE HOTEL, SO. WE COULD JUST DOUBLE WHAT WE NEED WE GOT FROM THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT AMOUNT.

RIGHT WE'D AT THE 2% AND UNDERSTAND.

ALL RIGHT. SO, I GUESS WHAT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL AS FAR AS JUST WITH THE PROJECTION. IF YOU WANT TO GO WITH OUR CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION OF WAITING UNTIL MID-YEAR AND ASSESSING THAT. I MEAN IT'S ALL PROJECTION.

OKAY, I JUST GO ON RECORD THAT I'M AGAINST THAT.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN. WHERE IS EVERYONE ON WITH THIS. I'M OKAY WITH WAITING UNTIL. SO WE HAVE THREE. WE HAVE THREE. JUST ABOUT, RECOMMENDATION OF WAITING UNTIL MID-YEAR BEFORE CHANGING THE PROJECTIONS.

GO AHEAD YOU SAY IT MARY. DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU.

SO THE REASON THE REQUEST ESTIMATED TO REMOVE THE HOTEL FROM THE PROJECTIONS. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE REQUEST WITH THESE CHARTS REMOVING THE HOTEL ASSUMPTION THAT THE HOTEL WOULD BE IN. MY RECOMMENDATION; I MEAN YOU CAN REMOVE IT NOW. WE CAN ADD IT BACK IN. I DON'T

KNOW WHAT THE DIRECTION IS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE, THE HOTEL DEVELOPER HAS STATED THAT HE WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD. HE BROUGHT IN AN APPLICATION THAT

WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR

TOT REBATE WHICH HE ANNOUNCED AT THE ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS PREVIOUSLY. SO MY, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT WILL GIVE US A DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO TELL US WHETHER THAT HOTEL WILL BE COMING IN OR NOT. THAT WILL NOT CHANGE THE BUDGET. AFTER THAT DECISION IS MADE WE WILL HAVE A MORE DEFINITIVE FIVE YEAR PROJECTION BASED ON THE DECISION AFTER THAT APPLICATION.

THE CURRENT TENANT IS OVER IN JUNE. SO THEY HAVE INCENTIVE.

WHAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS ONE GRAPH. BECAUSE WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS, RIGHT. I MEAN THIS ISN'T GUIDING OUR PRINCIPLES IN MANY WAYS, IS IT. OR IS IT TRYING TO COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE? Agenda Item Number 1
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THESE SCENARIOS COMMUNICATE TO PUBLIC WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE HOTEL. WITHOUT THE HOTEL. WITH THE PENSIONS.. THERE WAS A REQUEST MADE TO REMOVE THE HOTEL.

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BUT THERE'S A PROJECTION WITH THE HOTEL, WITHOUT THE HOTEL.

YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO.

CAN I ASK ONE MORE CLARIFYING QUESTION.

OKAY. YES.

SORRY. I JUST WANT TO ASK, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ONE HOTEL 2% IS ESTIMATED PER THIS MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT A RAISE WOULD BE 80,000 PER YEAR. ANYBODY KNOW IF THAT'S CORRECT? THE COST IS 20 BUT WOULD RAISE 80. NO?OKAY. THANK YOU.

I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE CITY AFTERWARD. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, SO THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE THE ART IN LIEU IS AT. UNDER. THAT'S THE NEXT SECTION. IS IT OKAY TO MOVE ON TO THAT EVERYONE. I BELIEVE, OH, I'M SORRY. YEAH.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE.

TRYING TO CHUG ALONG. SO WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. IT'S 8:45 SO 8:50ISH.

IS IT OKAY IF WE GET STARTED.

RECORDING IN PROGRESS.

OKAY, WE'RE BACK HERE AT THE DAIS FOR MORE BUDGETING. WE'RE AT THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. AND SO ANYONE, I KNOW THAT WE ALREADY HAVE VICE MAYOR, THE

VICE MAYOR HAS ONE ITEM IN THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS AND IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? THAT HAS, SPECIAL -- WAS THAT PAGE 161? SAME OH 136, THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR DO YOU WANT TO TELL US WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

YEAH AT THE GOALS MEETING. WE WROTE IT 5-0 TO APPROVE HAVING SOME PUBLIC ART TO HONOR CHARLES SCHULTZ. WHO LIVED IN THIS AREA. AND I HAVE WALKED THIS

ALONG A LITTLE BIT BY CONTACTING THE MUSEUM AND TALKING TO THEM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT POSSIBILITIES. BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS TO BE APPROVED. AND THEY HAVE, I GUESS IT'S BEYOND THE MUSEUM IN TERMS OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS. BUT WHAT I DID

DISCOVER AND I HOPE IT'S OKAY TO SHARE IS THAT I WAS LOOKING, I REMEMBER ONE

COUNCIL MEMBER WASN'T COMFORTABLE WITH THE SCULPTURES THAT ARE IN SANTA

ROSA, WITH THAT IN MIND I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS POSSIBLY FOR A MURAL. AND ONE PERSON I WAS TALKING TO AT THE MUSEUM WAS SAYING EARMARKING 10,000 FOR A MURAL. BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT MUCH. WHAT I WAS

EXCITED ABOUT IS CHARLES SCHULTZ HAS CREATED A CHARACTER IN HIS LITTLE TRIBE THERE. THE CHARACTER WAS NAMED 55595472. WHICH IS OUR ZIP CODE. AND SO, THEY CALLED HIM FIVE. BUT HIS LAST NAME WAS 95472. THE REASON HE CREATED THIS IS IN 1963, THE POSTOFFICES HAD ZIP CODES. AND IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICES HAD CREATED ZIP CODES AND HE DIDN'T LIKE IT. SO THIS WAS HIS LITTLE FORM OF REBELLION IS TO CREATE A CHARACTER. THE CHARACTER HAD TWO SISTERS, THREE AND FOUR. SO HE WAS FIVE AND HIS SISTERS WERE THREE AND FOUR. AND SO ANY WAY, I WAS THINKING ABOUT A MURAL. AND THE LOCATION POSSIBLY COULD BE AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE LIBRARY WALK WAY ON THE BODEGA SIDE. IT WOULD BE THE HEIGHT WOULD BE SO KIDS COULD TAKE A PHOTO WITH HIM IF THEY WANTED. THEN THE

CHARLES SCHULTZ MUSEUM WOULD HAVE A LITTLE HONORING PLAQUE DESCRIBING CHARLES SCHULTZ AND HOW HE LIVEED IN THIS AREA. THAT WAS THE DIRECTION I WAS GOING. AND OF COURSE THAT'S CERTAINLY UP TO COUNCIL DISCRETION. THEN THE CITY,

OUR CITY MANAGER SHARED THAT THERE IS ENOUGH MONEY WITHIN THE ART AND LIEU

FUND FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, SO THAT IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE BUDGETED AS EXTRA. IT WOULD BE DIRECTION TO PUBLIC COMMITTEE.

YOU'RE SUGGESTING 10,000. BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED IT.

THE FUND RIGHT NOW HAS 20.

21. $21,000 IN IT.

I'M ASKING WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR US?
IT WAS A SUGGEST BY ONE OF THE WOMAN AT CHARLES SCHULTZ FOR 10,000.

ALL RIGHT, 10,000.

BUT IT'S NOT IN ADDITION IT IS JUST COMING OUT OF THIS BUDGET.

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I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON.

JUST A QUESTION, IS THIS LIKE THE ART AND LIEU FOUND SHOULD THAT BE A QUESTION FOR THEM.

I THINK THE COUNCIL COULD DIRECT THEM TO DO THIS PROJECT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY ASKING THEM RIGHT NOW. IS JUST DIRECT IT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I WOULD LOVE, I LOVE THAT YOU FOUND A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. MY MOM WHO GREW

UP IN THREE STONE HAS A LOT OF STORIES ABOUT CHARLIE SCHULTZ LIVED AROUND HERE. I JUST DID A SEARCH AND THAT WOULD BE A REALLY FUN DIRECTION TO MOVE A MURAL TO IN OUR AREA.

MAYBE THERE COULD BE A COUPLE OF CHARACTERS AND THE 95472 KID COULD BE ONE

OF THEM AND YOU COULD ALSO HAVE A DANCING SNOOPY OR WHATEVER NEXT TO HIM AS YOU WALK UP TO THE LIBRARY. WHAT I LIKED ABOUT THAT LOCATION IS IT'S VISIBLE FROM BODEGA AS YOU DRIVE BY AND YOU CAN SEE THAT.

I THINK WE CAN DIRECT THE ART PEOPLE TO FIGURE OUT A GOOD LOCATION. BUT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF THEME. AND SOME, I LOVE HISTORY. SO THAT WOULD BE FUN TO HAVE.

AND IT'S POSSIBLE. I DON'T KNOW WE WOULD HAVE TO GET APPROVAL BUT WE COULD PUT A RAINBOW SHIRT OR PEACE DOWN SHIRT I DON'T KNOW TO MAKE IT MORE LOCAL.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

CAN WE DO A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN. THUMBS UP. WE FINALLY ALL AGREE ON SOMETHING. ART IS FUN. THAT WAS THE ONE ITEM ON THE LIST HERE. I'M SORRY, I JUST WANT TO MARK THAT OFF. OKAY ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS SPECIAL FUND. MARY OR ANNA AM I MISSING ANYTHING ELSE. AM I SKIPPING ON THIS LIST. I DON'T WANT TO GO PAGE BY PAGE BUT YOU GUYS KNOW IT.

THE ONLY THING I JUST WANT TO MAKE TRANSPARENT IT'S NOT IN HERE YET AND IT'LL BE COMING AT THE NEXT MEETING IS THE LIBRARY COSTS. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE BUT

WE'RE ASSUMING IT'S GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF THE BUILDING RESERVE INFRASTRUCTURE FUND. JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY.

WHAT PAGE IS THAT?
114.

SO WE'RE BACKING UP.

YEAH I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU HAD SKIPPED ALL THE WAY THROUGH. SO ON PAGE 114 IS THE BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE RESERVE FUND. THIS IS ANTICIPATED THE ACCOUNT

THAT WE'LL BE USING TO PAY FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF THE LIBRARY THEN WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD ONCE WE GET THE FINAL ESTIMATE FROM THE CONTRACTOR. WHAT THE PROPOSED REMEDIATION IS AT THIS POINT.

JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT COMMENT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY DOLLAR AMOUNT AT ALL. BECAUSE I GOT ALL THE E-MAILS ABOUT REMEDIATION. WE DON'T HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT RIGHT.

THE PHASE ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW. THE ESTIMATE THAT WE RECEIVED I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT WAS FINAL YET BECAUSE THEY DID MORE TESTING. WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR FROM THAT.

THE 39,000 JUST TO BE CLEAR FOR THOSE WHO ARE FOLLOWING ALONG. THOSE ARE FOR

TWO TINY AREAS OF THE LIBRARY THAT SOMEONE DECIDED TO BLOW OUT WHICH IS THE STAFFING AREA. SO 39 TO DO THE FULL SCOPE. OUR INSURANCE IS NOT GOING TO PAY FOR THIS. SO IT IS GOING TO BE A PUSH AND A PULL DEALING WITH THE LAWYERS NO DOUBT. ABOUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMETHING. OUR LAWYER AND THE LAWYER

FOR THE LIBRARY ADMINISTRATION ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT. SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE MONEY RIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INSURANCE.

THAT IS CORRECT. INSURANCE WILL NOT COVER.

THAT'S ANOTHER HUGE THING FOR ME FACTORING IN FOR THIS VOTE FOR THIS BUDGET.

BUT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THIS IS COMING OUT OF A SAVINGS ACCOUNT FOR BUILDINGS.

FOR JUST THIS KIND OF PURPOSE. AND IT'S BEEN THERE. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A.

BUT HOW MUCH IS IN THERE. THE RESERVES.

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I WANT TO SAY I'M VERY PROUD THAT WE STARTED THIS FUND WHEN I WAS ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE FOR A DAY LIKE THIS.

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WHICH LINE ARE WE LOOKING AT.

I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 175,000 IS WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT.

WE'RE ON PAGE 115.
114.

WE'RE LOOKING AT --

I MEAN IT WAS STARTED WITH A SAVINGS ACCOUNT ALONG WITH I THINK THE VEHICLE ACCOUNT FOR A RAINY DAY WHEN WE WOULD NEED IT.

OKAY.

I'M GLAD TO KNOW IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. THAT WE HAVE A FUND. THANK YOU FOR STARTING THAT.

YEAH.

OKAY. SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE BUILDING OR IN THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS THAT ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BY ANYBODY?
NOT IN A SPECIAL FUND. CAN WE BACK UP A LITTLE BIT FOR PENSION PAGE 118.

OKAY.

I THINK WE TOOK A VOTE ON IT ALREADY.

WE TOOK A VOTE ON THE PENSION.

YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL MID-YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT WE. GO AHEAD.

THERE IS A $500,000 THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING. WHEN THE INFORMATION ITEM CAME FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL. THAT IT WOULD TAKE 500 FROM THE DISCRETIONARY AND MOVE IT INTO THE 115 TRUST WHETHER THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO THAT. WITHIN THE PENSION FUND. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GENERAL FUND.

QUESTION. DIDN'T WE ALREADY MOVE MONEY INTO THAT?
NOT YET.

BUDGET COMMITTEE DIDN'T.

BUDGET COMMITTEE HEARD OF IT AND IT'S IN SUPPORT OF THAT BUT IT HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED IN A FULL COUNCIL. WHETHER THAT, THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO THAT.

WHAT AMOUNT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

DIDN'T THAT COME BACK AS ANOTHER ITEM AT A DIFFERENT TIME? I DON'T THINK SO.

TYPICALLY WE'VE ALWAYS DISCUSSED IT AT BUDGET TIME.

WHAT IS THE AMOUNT ANA YOU SAID.
500,000.

WHAT PAGE?
118.

SO THAT'S NOT BUDGETED IN HERE. RIGHT.

SO IN THIS, IN THIS PAGE YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF 3.3 MILLION IN PENSION. 2 MILLION IS DESIGNATED FOR 115 TRUST. AND YOU HAVE 1.3 MILLION IS DISCRETIONARY. SO IT'S NOT IN THE TRUST. SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE HALF A MILLION FROM THE DISCRETIONARY AND MOVE INTO THE TRUST, THEN THAT WOULD JUST BE MOVING WITHIN THIS FUND.

NOT -- NOTHING OUTSIDE OF THIS FUND.

I SEE. SO HOW MUCH WOULD BE, LEFT OVER THEN IF YOU HAVE.

IT WOULD STILL BE 3 MILLION.

BUT I MEAN, HOW MUCH IS IN A MORE CONSERVATIVE PORTFOLIO AND HOW MUCH IS IN THE STOCKS AND BONDS.

IT'S 50-50.

SO YOU ALL CHOSE NOT TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET? YOU WERE SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

I THOUGHT WE MOVED SOME MONEY OVER.

I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS BUDGET COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED IT. BUT WE'RE IN THE FULL COUNCIL SO WE ALL HAVE TO AGREE TO MOVE OUT OF THE 1.43. SO THAT WOULD THEN GO INTO THE.

THE TRUST.

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SO WHAT'S THE PENALTIES IF WE NEEDED IT IN THE FUTURE TO PULL IT BACK? OR CAN WE NOT TOUCH IT ONCE IT'S MOVED?
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YOU PULL TO PAY FOR YOUR PENSION.

I'M SAYING IF WE AGREE TO MOVE THE 500,000 AND ARE LEFT WITH 800,000 OF DISCRETIONARY DOLLARS IF WE EVER NEED IT MORE THAN THAT 800,000, WHAT'S OUR PENALTY? IT'S A PENALTY RIGHT. OR YOU CAN'T MOVE IT ONCE YOU MOVE IT YOU CAN'T GET IT BACK.

THE GENERAL FUND IS PAYING PENSION OBLIGATIONS NOW. SO YOU WOULD JUST TAKE OUT THE 115 MONEY TO PAY THE PENSION OBLIGATIONS AND USE THE MONEY. THAT IS THE PENSION OBLIGATIONS.

SO THERE'S REALLY NOT THAT BIG OF A RISK WE'RE JUST MOVING IT AND THEN, IT'S STILL THE GENERAL FUND IS STILL ACCUMULATING.

YES IT'S STILL WITHIN YOUR FUND 105.

RIGHT.

AND THE OPPORTUNITY IS INVESTMENT RETURN.

YEAH I'VE BEEN IN FAVOR. I WANTED TO MOVE THE FULL MILLION A YEAR AGO. I'M 100% IN FAVOR OF GETTING MONEY TO GET BETTER INTEREST.

I'M OKAY WITH THE 500,000.

I AM TOO. SO THUMBS UP. THUMBS DOWN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. ALL RIGHT ANYTHING ELSE IN THESE AREAS FROM ANYONE? FROM STAFF THAT -- OKAY. SORRY IF I SKIPPED OVER SOME. LET'S SEE, ANYTHING IN THE INSURANCE FUND? NO. ALL RIGHT. THEN THAT TAKES US TO THE ALL IMPORTANT WATER AND WASTE WATER ENTERPRISE FUNDS. AND WE DEFINITELY HAVE A DISCUSSION THERE. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ASSUMPTIONS TO DECIDE ON HERE. AND I BELIEVE, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD BE DEFERRING THE LOAN. OH I'M SORRY 162. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD BE DEFERRING THE LOAN

AND THEN I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A QUESTION THAT HAS COME UP FROM SOME IS

WHETHER OR NOT OR THE RECOMMENDATION ABOUT DEFERRING THE WATER, THE INCREASING THE WATER RATES. AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WANTED TO DO THAT FOR

TWO MONTHS WHICH WAS I BELIEVE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THAT IS WHAT WAS ADVISED BY THE ENTERPRISE COMMITTEE. OR THE GROUP THAT CAME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M NARRATING THIS CORRECTLY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I'M FORGETTING? OTHER THAN THE FINANCE, OKAY THAT ENTERPRISE FINANCE QUESTION.

WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I AM MISSING AS FAR AS UNDER THE WATER. AND I THINK IT WAS, I THINK MARY HAD RECOMMENDED NOT TO CONSIDER THE SEWER RATES.

THE SEWER I MEAN THE WASTE WATER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS BEFORE WE BEGIN. I HAVE PLENTY OF THOUGHTS BUT GO AHEAD.

YEAH, I HAVE PLENTY OF THOUGHTS THAT I STATED AT THE LAST MEETING. I'M LIKE COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF WAVING THAT LOAN THE 1.1 MILLION. I MEAN. IT'S, IN THE

MIDST OF EVERYTHING ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE WATER AND SEWER FOLKS ALONG WITH THE GRAND JURY. THAT IS THE MINIMUM I THINK WE COULD DO. THAT'S WHAT I RAN INTO BOB LELAND PART OF THE ASSUMPTION IS NOT PAYING BACK THAT LOAN.

DID THEY RECOMMEND THE TWO MONTHS OR DID THEY RECOMMEND SUSPENDING IT UNTIL THE NEW ALLOCATION STUDY, CAN YOU REMIND ME.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR. I WANT TO FORGIVE IT.

I JUST SAID ONE OTHER.

THERE'S TWO SEPARATE ISSUES. I WAS JUST READING MY NOTES AND I REALIZED I THINK

I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH MORE DISCUSSION I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE OUT RIGHT.

I BELIEVE THE ENTERPRISE COMMITTEE, AD HOC COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED TWO MONTHS DEFER -- DEFERRAL RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF FORGIVING THE LOAN AND NOT PAYING IT BACK.

YEAH 100%. THERE'S FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT DELAYING THE WATER.

I JUST WANT TO STICK WITH THE LOAN SO WE'RE NOT GETTING CONDILUTE IT.

CAN WE STATE WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING AND BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS. BECAUSE IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

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I WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE COUNCIL ALL YOU'RE DOING TONIGHT IS THE BUDGET DOCUMENT. SO YOU, THIS WOULD COME BACK TO ACTUALLY TAKE THE ACTION TO FORGIVE.

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WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE ACTION WE JUST WANT TO SEE WHERE EVERYONE IS AT.

WE'RE JUST DOING A THUMBS AT, THUMB DO YOU -- THUMBS DOWN WHERE WE'RE AT ALL OF US ON THAT. DID YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN IT MORE, MARY.

YES, SO THIS IS THE LOAN THAT THE SEWER THE ENTERPRISE. THE FUND WOULD BE REPAYING BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. SO THE REQUEST FROM THE ENTERPRISE

COMMITTEE IS THAT WE, NOT HAVE TO, NOT HAVE THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS REPAY THE GENERAL FUND. BECAUSE THE GENERAL FUNDS WERE SUBSIDIZING THE ENTERPRISE FUND. THIS WOULD REPAY BACK THE GENERAL FUND. AND IT WAS GOING TO BE A YEARLY, I BELIEVE IT'S A FIVE YEAR REPAYMENT. SO IF WE DO NOT, IF WE FORGIVE THE LOAN IT WOULD BE LOOKING INTO THE FORECAST THE 200 SOMETHING THOUSAND PER YEAR IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THAT WOULD NOT GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND. AND THAT WAS THE REQUEST FROM THE ENTERPRISE.

JUST TO RESTATE. THE ENTERPRISE FUND, WOULD HAVE HAD THE IMPACT OF THE GENERAL FUND UP $200,000 AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, SUGGESTING WE FORGET.

IT'S THE WASTE WATER LOAN NOT REPAID. IT'S PART OF THE ALL THE ALL OF US HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM THIS WEEK. I BELIEVE, I KNOW I HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH HIM.

HE SAYS RIGHT HERE WASTE WATER LOAN NOT REPAID. THE ORIGINAL ASSUMPTION WAS THE $1.1 MILLION LOAN WOULD BE REPAID OVER 5 YEARS STARTING IN FISCAL YEAR 28 AT NO INTEREST. 220K TO BE RECEIVED BY THE GENERAL FUND IN EACH OF THOSE YEARS. NOT REPAYING THE LOAN IS A POLICY DECISION BY THE COUNCIL. WRITING OFF

THE LOAN WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED BY REQUESTING A TRANSFER TO THE WASTE WATER FUND OF 1.1 MILLION AND ELIMINATION OF ADVANCE TO OTHER FUNDS RESERVED IN THE GENERAL FUND. THE IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND INCLUDING LOSS OF INTEREST IS SHOWN ON THE CHART TO THE RIGHT. AND ANA SENT US ALL THESE SE TPHAEUR -- SCENARIOS. THAT'S WHERE I READ IT FROM. THAT WAS ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP.

SO TONIGHT WE'RE JUST NOT COUNTING ON THE INCOME BUT IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL. THE SCENARIOS.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS PROJECTED TO START THIS YEAR.

NOT UNTIL 28.

IT'S JUST PART OF THE FORECAST.

JUST LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THE FORECAST IF -- FOR THE OTHER STUFF. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE. I ALREADY WEIGHED IN WHERE I'M AT. WE HAVE THREE THUMBS ALREADY, WHAT DO WE NEED, HOW DO YOU NEED ME TO WORD IT. YOU KNOW,

NOT WASTE WATER LOAN NOT TO BE REPAID IS BASICALLY WE HAVE THREE THUMBS UP RIGHT NOW FOR THAT.

SO THAT PAGE 118 WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAND OFF THE GRAPH TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THE FUTURE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE. THEN THAT GRAPHIC AND ON PAGE 118 IT'S GOING TO BE CLEARLY STATED.

I THINK IT'S PAGE 181.

OR 181 IT'S GOING TO BE CLEARLY STATED THERE THAT WE ARE FORGIVING, RIGHT.

RIGHT.

CAN YOU CLARIFY THE NUMBER ON THE PAGE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OF WHERE THIS IS COMING OUT OF. IS IT ON 164?
I THINK ALEX WAS SAYING IT'S 180.

OR IT'S JUST ON THE PROJECTION ON THAT 180.

I THINK IT'S JUST IN THE PROJECTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, SO. OKAY. AND THEN, IT'S UNDER UTILITIES. WHAT'S THIS UNDER ON HERE? I'M TRYING TO TRACK IT.

WASTE WATER. DID YOU FIND IT? I ONLY KNEW OF IT IN THE PROJECTIONS. BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE IT ON THE ACTUAL BUDGET. IT'S JUST PART OF THE PROJECTIONS OVER ALL WHERE WE'LL BE. I BELIEVE. BECAUSE IT WAS DIVIDED OUT.

AND IF IT STARTED IN 28 IT SHOULD BE ON THIS PAGE RIGHT. 181.

OH YEAH 181. YEAH. I THOUGHT YOU WERE LOOKING IN THE SECTION -- Agenda Item Number 1 City Council Meeting Packet for July 7, 2026

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I'M JUST ASKING THE YEAR IT STARTS THEN WHAT LINE IT IS SO I CAN TRACK IT ALONG LIKE I'M TRACKING HOTEL.

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ARE YOU ALL CONFERRING, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE AT? I DON'T THINK IT'S BUILT INTO THE FORECAST FOR THE WEEKLY.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WASN'T EVEN IN THE BUDGET BUILT IN.

IT WAS PART OF THE PRESENTATION.

YEAH, IT WAS.

I THOUGHT HE SAID IT WAS.

IT WAS PART OF WHAT I WORKED THROUGH INDIVIDUALLY WITH HIM. YEAH.

CORRECT.

BECAUSE THAT CAME UP SOME WHERE. THAT WAS PART OF HIS ASSUMPTIONS. HE TOLD US AS A POLICY WE NEEDED TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH IT.

BUT THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE BUDGET IF WE WERE -- THAT WAS PART.

DISCUSSING IT AS DOING IT, RIGHT.

THIS IS JUST A BALANCE SHEET ADJUSTMENT. IF THE LOAN IS REPAYMENT IT WOULD BE MONEY COMING BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND. AND IT WOULD BE AN EXPENSE TO THE WASTE WATER FUND.

RIGHT. BUT YOU NEVER PUT IT IN THE GENERAL FUND FORECAST. IF AS BECAUSE WHY, I MEAN WOULDN'T IT BE IN HERE IF WE WERE DISCUSSING IT?
I THOUGHT HE SAID IT WAS.

IT WOULD BE THE BOTTOM LINE ADJUSTMENT FOR IF IT'S BEING REPAYMENT. BUT I NEED

TO DISCUSS WITH BOB ABOUT HOW HE STRUCTURED THIS FORECAST FOR THE LOAN REPAYMENT ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S PART OF THIS FORECAST.

I MEAN, YOU CAN GET BACK TO ME BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT CLARIFIED AND REFER TO THIS PAGE 181. BECAUSE IF WE WERE PROJECTING TOT AND WE WERE PROJECTING THIS.

THEN WHY ARE WE PROJECTING THIS.

IT SHOULD BE ON THIS PAGE NOW WE'RE MAKING A DECISION TO CHANGE IT. RIGHT. AM I I MEAN WHO OWNS THIS?
I'M JUST CURIOUS IF IT IS OR ISN'T. I'M GOING TO WRITE A QUESTION MARK THERE.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THE TRANSFER, TRANSFERS IN WHICH IS LIKE THE LAST LINE BEFORE TOTAL REVENUE. RIGHT ABOVE COST ALLOCATION.

SO THAT WAS IT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO BASICALLY, I MEAN BUT WE'VE ALL GIVEN OUR THUMBS UP ON THAT. SO YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT. THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN WHATEVER. BUT YES, YES, IT'S JUST THUMBS UP TODAY.

WELL.

I WANT TO VERIFY MY CONSENSUS IS TO BRING IT BACK, I DON'T KNOW IF FORGIVE IS THE RIGHT THING OR WHAT THE RIGHT THING IS. BUT I'M WILLING TO TAKE IT OUT OF THIS. I, SO. OR YOU'VE GOT THREE. I WANT TO LEARN MORE.

YOU ALL HAD THUMBS UP RIGHT. RIGHT. I AM JUST TRYING TO KEEP IT MOVING HERE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS. AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM WAS, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS IN FRONT OF ME. THE WATER RATES. IS THAT ONE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AS A TOPIC, RIGHT. AM I WRONG. I DON'T WANT TO OPEN A CAN OF WORMS IF -- OKAY GO AHEAD.

IT WAS PROPOSED THAT, WE FREEZE THE WATER RATES INCREASE WHICH IS 4%. AND I JUST, IT SEEMS TO ME, WELL FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO CLARIFY. WAS THIS A FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION OF THE EFOC. OR WAS THIS, THE FULL EFOC COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION. COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT FOR ME.

FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF THE RATES I BELIEVE IT WAS THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. IT WAS PART OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COME FORWARD.

BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, THE RATE, THE RATE STRUCTURE AND THE WAY IT WAS

STRUCTURED IS INTENDED TO HELP PAY FOR ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIRS THAT WE NEED. AND SO IF WE, IF WE FREEZE THE RATES, THEN WE DON'T HAVE, WE'RE NOT

GOING TO HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO DO THE REPAIRS THAT WE NEED TO DO. AND SO THERE WAS A RATE STUDY DOWN IN 2023. AND NOW IT'S 2026, I THINK IN TWO YEARS, WE SHOULD DO ANOTHER RATE STUDY. AND THEN LOOK AT IT THEN IN TERMS OF Agenda Item Number 1
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WHERE WE'RE AT. OR EVEN NEXT YEAR WE COULD DO ANOTHER RATE STUDY. SO TO JUST KIND OF, TO ME TO JUST FREEZE THE RATES. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE WOULD DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN LINE WITH THE RATE STUDY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

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YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD THINK THAT, NOT COLLECTING MONEY TO DO THE REPAIRS WE OUGHT TO DO. SEEMS NEGLIGENT. BUT THE RATE PAYERS ARE

SUFFERING HIGH PRICES AND WE'VE ALREADY INCREASED YOU KNOW THAT RATE TO A POINT WHERE IT'S CAUSING THEM A LOT OF OTHER DIFFERENT KINDS OF DIFFICULTIES.

AND IT'S THEIR CONTENTION THAT THE GENERAL FUND SHOULD HELP WITH SOME INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS. BUT EVEN IF YOU DON'T TAKE THAT, THE 10 THINGS THAT WE

NEED TO HAVING SEEN WHAT THE PROJECTED REPAIRS ARE WE HAVE THE FINANCING ABILITY WITHIN THIS CURRENT AMOUNT TO ADDRESS THOSE 10 THINGS. IF WE DO IT LIKE IF WE TACKLE ONE YEAR ON YEAR ON YEAR FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

GO AHEAD.

I SEE A CONFUSED FACE IN THE CROWD.

I AGREE WITH THE VICE MAYOR AND THE FACT THAT EVERYTHING THAT I WENT

THROUGH AS FAR AS THAT RATE STUDY AND THE PAINFUL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHO WAS GOING TO BE IN WHAT TIER AND THIS AND THIS AND THAT. IT WAS ALL BASED ON

NUMBERS SO I'M NOT WANTING TO TINKER WITH THAT AND I'M NOT WILLING TO GO THROUGH. AS THE VICE MAYOR SAID WE'RE DUE FOR A REEXAM. AND I'M FINE WITH WAITING FOR THAT.

I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE A GRANDEUR JURY -- GRAND JURY REPORT OUT ON THAT. THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF THE TIERS. YOU KNOW I WAS VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THE VOTES THAT WENT ON ON THE WATER. AND THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THE RATES WILL FROZEN. I THOUGHT IT WASN'T JUST ONE COMMITTEE. IT WAS THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE, RIGHT.

IT ACTUALLY IS THE ENTIRE, THE ENTIRE EFOC. I KNOW WHAT SHE SAID, YES. OOZE -- AS

A PART OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, THE TWO ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE DO AGREE WITH THIS. IT'S THE TIERS THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO TAKE MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE A MOMENT. AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE RATE INCREASES COULD DO. BUT, GIVE IT A SLIGHT MORATORIUM TO GIVE OUR RATE PAYERS JUST SOME BREATHING ROOM SO WE DON'T JACK THE RATES AGAIN.

THAT'S WHY I'M WONDERING. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE TWO MONTHS OR SIX MONTH WHATEVER, PERSONALLY I WANTED TO ASK OUR CITY MANAGER. I MEAN, IF WE DID

THAT FOR SIX MONTHS JUST, WOULD THAT GIVE -- BECAUSE IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO IT FOR JUST TWO, I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYTHING CAN BE. IF WE DID IT FOR SIX MONTHS

WHAT KIND OF IMPACT DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT KIND OF IMPACT THAT WOULD HAVE ON US. I JUST WONDERED.

SORRY MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT HAVING THE MIC ON. IT ESTIMATES FOR ONE MONTH ABOUT 11,000 FOR WATER ONLY.

SO MY QUESTION, MAYBE MY QUESTION WAS, I'M SORRY, IF WE FROZE IT FOR TWO

MONTHS ARE WE DOING THAT TO GIVE A BREAK OR IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN FIGURE OUT IN THAT TIME. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND WE COULD BE GIVING THE RATE PLAYERS ALL OF US A BREAK ON THIS. BUT LONG TERM IS THERE ANYTHING. ANY FIX IN THERE IF WE DID IT FOR LONGER THAN THAT.

I BELIEVE THE TWO MONTHS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE ENTERPRISE COMMITTEE WAS TO ALLOW THE ENTERPRISE COMMITTEE TO MEET AND TO REVIEW THE RATES. ONE OF

THE THINGS THEY WITHIN THED TO LOOK AT IS ELIMINATE WATER RATES -- ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WANTED TO DO TO LOOK AT ELIMINATING THE WATER RATES.

I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING.

DO WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET A NEW RATE STUDY.

NOT FOR THIS YEAR.

FIRST THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR? I MEAN MAYBE WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING THAT.

AND THEN, I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE SEWER. BUT, IT WOULD SEEM LIKE WE COULD REDUCE THE WATER AND MAYBE WE PUT A RATE STUDY IN THE BUDGET. AND WE REDUCE WATER. CRAZY ENOUGH UNTIL WE GET A NEW RATE STUDY.

WHO PAYS FOR THE RATE STUDY? IS THAT THE WATER PAYER? AND IT'S ABOUT WHAT $80,000 FOR A RATE STUDY.

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IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL. THE WATER ENTERPRISE COULD PAY FOR THE RATE STUDY. OR YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL FUND COULD IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTED. AND YES I WOULD GUESS IT'S PROBABLY 75,000 AROUND THERE.

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CAN I ASK A QUESTION, A CLARIFYING. BECAUSE I PULLED UP. NOWHERE ON THERE DOES IT SAY TWO MONTHS. WHERE DID THAT COME FROM BECAUSE WE RECOMMEND THAT

THE COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO HAVE RATES REMAIN STATIC AND NOT TO INCREASE ON JULY 1 AND TO REDUCE THE TIER RATES. THIS SHOULD BE DONE BEFORE JULY 1, 2026 THERE'S NO TWO MONTHS IN ANY OF THIS STUFF. I'M JUST WONDER WHERE DID TWO MONTHS COME IN.

KATE IS ON THE CALL RIGHT NOW. CAN WE GET CLARIFICATION. SHE IS ON ZOOM.

ARE YOU ABLE TO CLARIFY? KATE. THERE YOU GO.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU AND YES. WE, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ACTUAL ACONVERSATION BECAUSE WE WERE VERY CLEAR. OUR

RECOMMENDATION IS TO FREEZE RATES AND REMOVE TIERS UNTIL COST ALLOCATION CAN BE DONE USING TIME TRACKING. OUR TOP FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS INVOLVED TIME TRACKING WHICH I AM SHOCKED HAS NOT BEEN PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. WE IN

OUR TOP FOUR, WE DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THE LOAN BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVEN DUE UNTIL NEXT YEAR. SO, TO REPEAT, OUR TOP FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO DO TIME TRACKING TO PAY BACK TO REFUND $350,000 IN EXCESSIVE ATTORNEYS FEES AND TO

MODIFY THE COST ALLOCATION PLAN WHICH INCLUDES REMOVING COUNCIL TIME, PUTTING THE ENGINEERING INTO CONTRACTS. REDUCING FINANCE AND REDUCING THE

CITY MANAGER WHICH ARE ALL, YOU KNOW BASED ON THESE NUMBER ALLOCATION NUMBERS THAT DON'T MATCH REALITY WHATSOEVER. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE IN OUR DOCUMENT WE WERE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE STEPS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. AND I

ALSO JUST SENT SOMETHING FOR GRAND JURY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GOES OVER THIS AS WELL. WE BELIEVE THAT RATES NEED TO BE SUSPENDED UNTIL ACCURATE EXPENSES ARE ON THE BOOKS. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO THAT IS TIME TRACKING.

AND, I'M SHOCKED THAT NO ONE HAS TALKED ABOUT TIME TRACKING WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STAFF TIME AND BUDGETING. BUT THAT'S MY RESPONSE, THANK YOU.

QUESTION.

OH, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. I KNOW OTHER CITYS IN SONOMA COUNTY DO COST ALLOCATION PLANS. ARE THOSE BASED ON TIME TRACKING OF ALL THE EMPLOYEES.

I'M SORRY CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION. I HAD TWO CONVERSATIONS GOING ON.

OTHER CITIES IN SONOMA COUNTY AND BEYOND USE COST ALLOCATION FUNDS.

WHETHER IT BE UTILITY THEY'RE RUNNER, WATER OR ELECTRICITY OR WHATEVER. BUT

DO THEIR EMPLOYEES TRACK TIME OR ARE, YOU KNOW, COST ALLOCATION PLANS ARE IN SOME WAYS, ESTIMATES. SO HOW DOES SABASTOPOL -- SEBASTOPOL.

I ASKED STAFF TO REACH OUT. WHO DOES TRACKING. SONOMA COUNTY DOES DO IT.

CITY OF SANTA ROSA DOES DO IT. CITY OF SONOMA.

SONOMA DOES NOT.

THE CITY THAT DOES TIME TRACKING AND RELY HEAVILY IS CITY OF KAWTATI. I TALKED TO CLOVER DALE. THEY DON'T DO THAT. I KNOW THAT, WE UNOFFICIALLY HAVE

DONE THAT JUST TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INTERNALLY BUT WE DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM. WHERE WE'RE TRACKING OUR TIME ON A SALES SPREAD SHEET AND IT'S VERY TEDIOUS. SO YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF SONOMA, CLOVER DALE, THEY ARE BASED ON THESE FACTOR UPDATES, TRANSACTION AND BUDGET. IT'S NOT BASED ON TIME TRACKING. IS WHAT I GOT FROM THE OTHER CITY.

DURING THE PRESENTATION WE WERE TOLD THE CITY DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. YOU'RE SAYING --

THE CITY IS LOOKING INTO A PLUGGED IN MODULE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CURRENT SOFTWARE BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN A QUOTE ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I DID REACH OUT TO THEM I'M JUST WAITING TO HEAR BACK.

I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THIS X, Y, Z. BUT I BET THERE ISN'T ONE CITY OUT THERE THAT WAITED 20 LONG YEARS TO ACTUALLY DO AN ALLOCATION STUDY. WE'RE NOT JUST DEALING WITH WHAT EVERYBODY IS DEALING NOW. WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF BAGGAGE THAT HAS

REALLY ANGERED A LOT OF PEOPLE WHICH IS CLEAR AND WHY WE ENDED UP WITH A Agenda Item Number 1
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CITY REPORT. REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A BAD HISTORY ACCORDING TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THE GRAND JURY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT EVERYBODY DOES NOW. BUT WE HAVE SOME PENANCE TO PAY ACCORDING TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE GRAND JURY AS FAR AS THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS BUT THEY'RE ANGRY AT US. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. BECAUSE I HEAR PEOPLE ALL THE TIME COMPLAINING AT ME ABOUT THEIR WATER RATES. GO AHEAD.

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WELL, I HAD A QUESTION A WHILE AGO. I WAS JUST CURIOUS THE LAST TIME WE DID A STUDY WHERE DID IT COME OUT OF? DID IT COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND OR DID IT COME OUT OF SEWER AND WATER. DO WE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT? SO, I WOULD BE WILLING TO ADD IT INTO THE BUDGET, INTO THE GENERAL FUND. I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, I WANT TO CONTINUE TO LEARN MORE. BECAUSE I DON'T SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE. BUT I WOULD BE WILLING TO ADD THAT TONIGHT. OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. BUT I'M CURIOUS WHO PAID FOR IT LAST TIME AND MAYBE WE CAN PENCIL THAT IN SO WE CAN DO THAT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF ANOTHER RATE STUDY. THE ONE WE'VE HAD IS FAIRLY RECENT. AND I THINK THAT JUDGING BY THE NUMBERS OF WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO PAY IN THE CIP AND WHAT OUR INCOME IS. THAT OUR RATES ARE STABLE ENOUGH TO PREDICT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COVER COSTS. AND TO ADD THAT COST THIS YEAR TO A BUDGET THAT WE'RE NERVOUS ABOUT, DOESN'T -- WORRIES ME. BUT I WOULD, I DON'T THINK WE NEED A COST STUDY ON WATER RATES.

I PERSONALLY WOULD ADVOCATE FOR TIME TRACKING. WE HEARD THAT KAWTODI DOES IT. WHY WOULDN'T WE LIKE PICKING AND CHOOSING. I HEAR YOU ON THE WATER RATES WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. THIS COMMITTEE CAME TOGETHER, CITIZENS AND CAME UP WITH ALL OF THESE IDEAS THAT'S THEIR RECOMMENDATION. PERSONALLY I'M TAKING THEIR RECOMMENDATION. WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KEEP TRACK OF THIS. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT ALREADY ON BOARD WITH THAT. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON IT. GO AHEAD.

YEAH, I THINK THIS ISN'T A DECISION WE SHOULD BE MAKING BECAUSE THESE SEEM,

THEY'RE ASKING FOR A LOT OF THINGS AND THERE SHOULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM IN ITSELF. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET. I'M JUST SAYING I AM WILLING TO PENCIL IT IN INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

CAN WE FIGURE OUT PENCILING IN AN AMOUNT. THEN WHEN IT COMES BACK AS AN ITEM WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER IT'S THE TRACKING. WHEN WE HAVE SOME KIND OF MONEY SET ASIDE. AND WHEN IT ACTUALLY COMES BACK AS AN ITEM IT COULD GO EITHER OR.

YEAH, THAT ACTUALLY GUYS MAKES SENSE.

SO THEN WE'RE NOT ARGUING.

SET SOME MONEY SOME WHERE. BUT I HEARD 75,000.
475,000 FOR RATE OR TRACKING OR KAWTO DI OR WHATEVER.

SOMETHING, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. SO IT'S GOING TO COST MONEY MAYBE PUTTING IT ON THE BUDGET TO BRING IT BACK.

I AGREE. WE'RE AGREEING ON SOMETHING. YEAH. GO AHEAD VICE MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT SOMEONE HAD SAID WE ALWAYS COMPARE OURSELVES TO KOWTODI AND THEY'RE TIME TRACKING. BUT WE ALSO COMPARE OURSELVES TO SONOMA AND THEY'RE NOT TIME TRACKING. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WOULD COME OUT OF FUND, I DON'T SUPPORT THAT. AND I THINK TIME TRACKING. I'VE DONE IT MYSELF. I THINK IT'S VERY TEDIOUS. I'M JUST NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. BUT I

WANT TO REITERATE THAT, I DON'T WANT TO SET ASIDE TWO MONTHS OF CHANGING THE RATES WHEN WE HAD A RATE STUDY THAT DEFINED HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD. I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE RATE STUDY. I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE WATER RATES. BUT NOW THAT THEY'RE IN PLACE. I CAN'T, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE EXPERTS THAT WE HIRE TO FIND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE NEED TO SET ASIDE FOR OUR REPAIRS ETC. I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK IT'S WISE TO TAKE A TWO MONTH BREAK. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHAT YOU COULD GET OUT OF THAT.

I THINK WE WOULD GET GOOD WILL FROM THE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE THEY'RE FEELING,

IF YOU READ ANYTHING LAST WEEK OF WHAT THEY'RE CALLING IT, CROOKS, AND Agenda Item Number 1
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THIEVES AND THAT WE'RE TAKING THEIR MONEY. I THINK IT'S OUT OF GOOD WILL. JUST TO HELP US MOVE ALONG. I KNOW YOU WANT TO COMMENT. THE THUMBS UP THUMBS

DOWN ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE TWO MONTH BREAK MAYBE THAT HELPS US MOVE FORWARD. GO AHEAD.

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COMING UP WITH A PERMANENT MORATORIUM AND WHAT YOU GET IS THE PERSON WHO'S PAYING $1,000 WATER BILL KEEPING IT A THOUSAND AND DOESN'T GO UP TO 1,400.

I'M DONE WITH DOING THE TWO MONTHS JUST, DO WE NEED, DO YOU NEED THAT FROM US MARY. HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD FROM THIS TOPIC.

WE WOULD NEED THE DIRECTION. WE WILL HAVE TO BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR RATIFICATION. FOR THE DIRECTION TO NOT INCLUDE THOSE FIGURES INTO THE ENTERPRISE FUND FOR THE BUDGET PURPOSES ONLY.

OKAY SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT. CAN WE ALL DO WHETHER WE ARE OR NOT.

ARE WE TALKING TWO MONTHS OR A MORATORIUM. I'M GETTING CONFUSED.

I SAID TWO MONTHS.

I'M OKAY WITH TWO MONTHS OR A MORATORIUM FOR NOW ON THE WATER RATES.

I CAN DO THE MORATORIUM.

I SAID MORATORIUM THEN LOOK AT IT AS IT GOES. AND BRING IT BACK. TO ALLEVIATE SOME UNCERTAINTY. SO THAT OUR RATE PAYERS CAN YOU KNOW PREDICT A BILL MAYBE LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS TODAY AND IT COSTS US $11,000 FOR MONTHS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT IT IS IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND. WHICH IS STABLE. NOT THE GENERAL FUND WHICH WE ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT TONIGHT.

ALL RIGHT SO I'M FINE WITH DOING THAT.

OKAY I'LL GO AHEAD TOO.

SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR. SO THE MORATORIUM. WITH NO END DATE.

NO IT DOESN'T HAVE A TIME FRAME ON IT.

WATER RATES.

NOT THE RUN.

WE'RE JUST NOT RAISING THEM.

THERE IS NO END DATE. WE NEED TO BRING THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING FOR A RATIFICATION. WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE ENTERPRISE FUND TO EVALUATE THE -- CAN WE SAY THE MORATORIUM ENDS NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. WE NEED TO REINSTATING IT GIVEN THE SITUATION OR NOT. WE COULD SAY A MORATORIUM FOR ONE YEAR.

THAT'S A COUNCIL DISCUSSION. YOU CAN SAY I APPROVE.

FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

I GET FOR CLARIFICATION ARE WE SETTING ASIDE FUNDING FOR A RATE STUDY OR? WE NEED TO SET SOME KIND OF MONEY ASIDE TO DO SOMETHING. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE ISSUE.

TWO DIFFERENT THUMBS UP THEN.

YEAH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN FOR THE MORATORIUM.

NOW UNTIL THIS FISCAL U.

THAT'S THE WRONG WORD. I MAY BE USING WRONG WORD.

WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE'RE SUSPENDING ANY INCREASE TO THE WATER RATES FROM NOW UNTIL THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO IT WOULD BE THROUGH JUNE 30, 2027.

OKAY.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

WE'LL BRING THAT ITEM BACK FOR RATIFICATION AND APPROVAL. OR RATIFICATION DISCUSSION ACTION AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

IF WE WANTED TO, ALL THAT DISCUSSION WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT TIERS AND WHETHER OR NOT. BECAUSE I KNOW ALL THESE THINGS HAVE COME INTO PLAY. AND I

DON'T KNOW WHAT IS ALL THE PROCESS FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT CHANGES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED. SO WE CAN DISCUSS ALL THAT AT A LATER TIME, RIGHT. OKAY, IS THAT?

AND THEN ITEM TWO IS, IS IT A -- TO TAKE THE SET ASIDE A PLACE HOLDER FOR WITHIN THE WATER FUND FOR ANOTHER RATE STUDY.

OR, TIME TRACKING WHATEVER. AFTER WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION. YEAH. JUST SETTING ASIDE.

SETTING ASIDE MONEY. 75,000 LET'S SAY.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

Agenda Item Number 1
City Council Meeting Packet for July 7, 2026