Sebastopol City Council
July 7, 2026

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CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA
Regular Meeting of Tuesday, June 16, 2026
6:00 pm Start Time
As Approved by the City Council at their regular meeting of June 16, 2026.

CALL TO ORDER: Mayor McLewis called the meeting to order 6:00 p.m.

ROLL CALL:

Present: Mayor Jill McLewis
Vice Mayor Sandra Maurer
Councilmember Phill Carter
Councilmember Neysa Hinton
Councilmember Stephen Zollman

Absent: None
Staff: City Manager Mary Gourley
Alex Mog, City Attorney, Redwood Public Law
Administrative Services Director Kwong
Building Official Brown (Contract)
Interim Planning Director Riley, 4Leaf (Contract)
Public Works Director Hart
SALUTE TO THE FLAG: Mayor McLewis led the salute to the flag.

REMOTE PARTICIPATION UNDER AB 2449 (IF NEEDED): To consider and take action on any request from a Council Member to participate in a meeting remotely due to Just Cause or Emergency Circumstances pursuant to AB 2449 (Government Code Section 549539(f)). Assembly Bill 2302 (2024) (“AB 2302”) revises rules for when members of local legislative bodies may participate in meetings remotely. Specifically, it amends the number of meetings that may be attended remotely for just cause and under emergency circumstances and clarifies the definition of the term “meeting,” for purposes of remote attendance. AB 2302 caps the number of remote meetings a member can attend each year based on the frequency of a legislative body’s meetings: Five meetings per year for those meeting twice a month.

LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: The City of Sebastopol acknowledges that we live and work within the unceded ancestral homelands of the Southern Pomo and the Coast Miwok people. We pay our respect to the past, present, and future generations of these peoples, including the Federated Indians of Graton Rancheria.

1. INTERVIEWS: Sonoma County Library Commission Interviews a. Interview two applicants for one opening on the Library Commission

APPLICANTS
Fred Engbarth
Suzanne Turk White
City Council Action: The Council conducted interviews.

Reference Order Number: 2026-161

2. INTERVIEW: Public Arts Committee Interview
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a. Interview one applicant for one opening on the Public Arts Committee

APPLICANT CATEGORY
Don Greenberg Category 1
City Council Action: The Council conducted interview.

Reference Order Number: 2026-162

3. APPOINTMENT: Sonoma County Library Commission Appointment Responsible Department: City Manager
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: None
City Manager Gourley presented the agenda item.

Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. The Council asked various questions of City staff.

Mayor McLewis opened the public comment period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public comment period:

Martin
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:

Council continued discussion of the item.

Mayor McLewis called for a motion.

MOTION:

Councilmember Zollman moved and Councilmember Carter seconded the motion to approve appointment of Fred Engbarth to the Sonoma County Library Commission for a term ending June 30, 2030.

Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zollman, Vice Mayor Maurer and Mayor McLewis Noes: None

Absent: None
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved the appointment of Fred Engbarth to the Sonoma County Library Commission for a term ending June 30, 2030.

Minute Order Number: 2026-163

4. APPOINTMENT: Public Arts Committee Appointment
Responsible Department: Planning
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: None
City Manager Gourley presented the agenda item.

Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. The Council asked various questions of City staff.

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Mayor McLewis opened the public comment period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public comment period: None
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:

Council continued discussion of the item.

Mayor McLewis called for a motion.

MOTION:

Councilmember Zollman moved and Vice Mayor Maurer seconded the motion to approve appointment of Don Greenberg to the Public Arts Committee Category 1 for a term ending December 31, 2029.

Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zollman, Vice Mayor Maurer and Mayor McLewis Noes: None

Absent: None
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved the appointment of Don Greenberg to the Public Arts Committee Category 1 for a term ending December 31, 2029.

Minute Order Number: 2026-164
REMEMBERING THE HISTORY OF SEBASTOPOL: Mayor McLewis provided history of Sebastopol events. Juneteenth PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS/INTRODUCTIONS: None
STATEMENTS OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST: Conflicts of interest may arise in situations where a public official deliberating towards a decision, has an actual or potential financial interest in the matter before the Council. In accordance with state law, an actual conflict of interest is one that would be to the private financial benefit of a public official, a relative or a business with which the Councilmember is associated. A potential conflict of interest is one that could be to the private financial benefit of a Councilmember, a relative or a business with which the Councilmember is associated. A Councilmember must publicly announce potential and actual conflicts of interest, and, in the case of actual conflict of interest, must refrain from participating in debate on the issue or from voting on the issue and must remove themselves from the dais. None PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA (FIRST COMMENT PERIOD):
• Up to Twenty (20) Minute Time Limit (Two Minutes for up to ten speakers). • Additional public comment will be held at the end of the discussion and action items for up to an additional twenty (20) minutes.
• Mayor has discretion to allow for additional time beyond the 20 minutes allocated for public comment dependent upon the subject matter or number of speakers. • Process for calling on Speakers: Mayor or designee shall ask for public comment as follows: Speakers to be called on in an alternate manner (One speaker in person to be called on first; then one speaker remote to be called on second with additional speakers to be called on in the same manner) based upon the time limit.

The following member(s) of the public spoke during public comment for items not on the agenda:

Doug
Steve
Kate
Lisa
Member of the public

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CONSENT CALENDAR:
• The consent agenda consists of items that are routine in nature and do not require additional discussion by the City Council or have been reviewed by the City Council previously. These items may be approved by one motion without discussion unless a member of the City Council requests that the item be taken off the consent calendar.
• The Mayor will read aloud the title of each consent item (either full agenda title or a simplified version of the agenda title), and ask if a Councilmember wishes to remove one or more items from the consent calendar; and then open public comment to the members of the public in attendance. At this time, a member of the public may speak for up to two (2) minutes on the entire consent calendar and request at that time that an item or items removed for discussion.
• If an item or items are removed from the consent calendar, the item shall be placed at the end of the regular agenda items unless otherwise determined by the Mayor. Council Members may comment on Consent Calendar items or ask for minor clarifications without the need for pulling the item for separate consideration.

Items requiring deliberation should be pulled for separate consideration and shall be placed at the end of the regular agenda items unless otherwise determined by the Mayor.

Mayor McLewis read the consent calendar.

Mayor McLewis asked if any Councilmember wanted to remove a consent calendar item. There were no requests.

Mayor McLewis opened for public comment. The following member(s) of the public spoke during public comment:

Kyle
Mayor McLewis called for a motion.

MOTION:

Councilmember Zollman moved and Vice Mayor Maurer seconded the motion to approve consent calendar items 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12.

Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zollman, Vice Mayor Maurer and Mayor McLewis Noes: None

Absent: None
Abstain: None

5. Approval of City Council Meeting Minutes for Closed Session Meeting of June 1, 2026 Responsible Department: City Manager
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the minutes is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: None
City Council Action: Approved City Council Meeting Minutes for Closed Session Meeting of June 1, 2026 Minute Order Number: 2026-165

6. Approval of City Council Meeting Minutes for Regular Meeting of June 2, 2026 Responsible Department: City Manager
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the minutes is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: None
City Council Action: Approved City Council Meeting Minutes for Regular Meeting of June 2, 2026 Minute Order Number: 2026-166

7. Approval of Resolution Calling and Giving Notice of a General Municipal Election to be held on Tuesday, November 3, 2026 (The first Tuesday after the first Monday in November of each year) for the Election of Members of the City Council as required, and Requesting the Sonoma County Board of Supervisors to Consolidate the General Municipal Election with the Statewide General Election to be held on that date pursuant to Elections Code; and Approval of Resolution Adopting Regulations for Candidates for Elective

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Office Pertaining to the Candidate Statement of Qualifications and Requiring Each Candidate Filing a Candidate Statement of Qualifications Pay in Advance to the Local Agency an Estimated Pro Rated Share ($900.00) as a Condition of Having Statement included in the Voters Pamphlet for the Municipal Election to be held on November 3, 2026.
a. (Three Seats Are Open at the November election: Sandra Maurer; Jill McLewis; Stephen Zollman)
b. Nomination Papers will be available once the nomination period has opened (not earlier than the 113th day nor later than the 88th day before the municipal election).

Appointments will be required. Candidates must obtain and complete the official nomination documents that are issued by the Office of the City Clerk. This is done during the official nomination period. Nomination forms are issued at no charge. Hours Available are Monday through Thursday, Between 8:00am to 5:00pm (closed 12pm-1pm) except for City holidays. To schedule an appointment, please contact the City Clerk's Office. A candidate should be prepared to provide their name and residential address for validation of current voter registration and eligibility status. Nomination period is as follows:
• July 13, 2026 (113 days before the election; candidates can obtain and file nomination papers starting then).
• Nomination period closes: August 7, 2026, at 5:00 p.m. (88 days before the election).
• Extension rule (per Elections Code § 10225): If an incumbent does not file by the regular deadline, the period extends by 5 days (to August 12, 2026) for nonincumbents only. Incumbents cannot file during the extension Responsible Department: City Manager
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda item is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: The FY 26 27 Budget has allocated/approved $30,000 for the November 2026 Election.

This is based on a per voter cost range: $3.75 to $6.25 per voter; with a total cost range of $21,551.00 to $35,919.00
City Council Action: Approved Resolution Calling and Giving Notice of a General Municipal Election to be held on Tuesday, November 3, 2026 (The first Tuesday after the first Monday in November of each year) for the Election of Members of the City Council as required, and Requesting the Sonoma County Board of Supervisors to Consolidate the General Municipal Election with the Statewide General Election to be held on that date pursuant to Elections Code; and Approval of Resolution Adopting Regulations for Candidates for Elective Office Pertaining to the Candidate Statement of Qualifications and Requiring Each Candidate Filing a Candidate Statement of Qualifications Pay in Advance to the Local Agency an Estimated Pro Rated Share ($900.00) as a Condition of Having Statement included in the Voters Pamphlet for the Municipal Election to be held on November 3, 2026.

Minute Order Number: 2026-167
Resolution Numbers: 6770-2026 & 6771-2026

8. Approval of Resolution Authorizing City Manager per Sebastopol Municipal Code 2.12.210 to be assigned "such other duties and exercise such other powers as may be delegated to him from time to time by ordinance or resolution or other action of the City Council” This item is to approve critical" clerk functions” that need to be completed in the time period when the City is without a Clerk and assign them to the City Manager until position is filled.

Responsible Department: City Personnel Attorney/City Manager Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda item is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: There is no fiscal impact associated with approval of this item. The City Manager will not receive any additional compensation for performing these critical duties.

City Council Action: Approved Resolution Authorizing City Manager per Sebastopol Municipal Code 2.12.210 to be assigned "such other duties and exercise such other powers as may be delegated to him from time to time by ordinance or resolution or other action of the City Council” This item is to approve critical" clerk functions” that

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need to be completed in the time period when the City is without a Clerk and assign them to the City Manager until position is filled.

Minute Order Number: 2026-168
Resolution Number: 6772-2026

9. Approval to Direct City Attorney to Review the Conflict of Interest Code. State law requires all public agencies, including cities, to adopt a conflict of interest code. This document identifies the positions required to file Statements of Economic Interests (Form 700) and sets forth the disclosure categories of types of interests that must be reported. These codes are to be reviewed and, if necessary, updated every two years in order to stay abreast of the current state of the law and to accurately reflect the individual office holders subject to the requirements. The update is required this calendar year Responsible Department: City Manager/City Attorney
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: None
City Council Action: Approved Direct City Attorney to Review the Conflict of Interest Code. State law requires all public agencies, including cities, to adopt a conflict of interest code. This document identifies the positions required to file Statements of Economic Interests (Form 700) and sets forth the disclosure categories of types of interests that must be reported. These codes are to be reviewed and, if necessary, updated every two years in order to stay abreast of the current state of the law and to accurately reflect the individual office holders subject to the requirements. The update is required this calendar year Minute Order Number: 2026-169

10. Digouts and Repair Contract Award. Award of Construction Contract for the Digouts and Repair Pavement Rehabilitation Project (CIP #0520-22.09)
Responsible Department: Public Works
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: There is no additional fiscal impact with this item as it is budgeted within the City FY25/26 CIP budget
City Council Action: Approved Resolution of Digouts and Repair Contract Award. Award of Construction Contract for the Digouts and Repair Pavement Rehabilitation Project (CIP #0520-22.09) Minute Order Number: 2026-170
Resolution Number: 6773-2026

11. Approve SB-1 Funded Project List for Fiscal Year 2026-27. Pursuant to SB 1, the Road Repair and Accountability Act of 2017, the City must adopt a resolution approving the list of projects proposed for Fiscal Year funding from the Road Maintenance and Rehabilitation Account (RMRA).

Responsible Department: Public Works
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: There is no additional fiscal impact with this item as it is budgeted within the City FY26/27 CIP budget
City Council Action: Approved Resolution of SB-1 Funded Project List for Fiscal Year 2026-27. Pursuant to SB 1, the Road Repair and Accountability Act of 2017, the City must adopt a resolution approving the list of projects proposed for Fiscal Year funding from the Road Maintenance and Rehabilitation Account (RMRA).

Minute Order Number: 2026-171
Resolution Number: 6774-2026

12. Approve of Pay Rates and Ranges Related to the Approved of SEIU MOU and Unrepresented Compensation and Benefit Agreement effective July 1, 2026. Approval of resolution of pay rates and ranges related to the Approved of SEIU MOU and Unrepresented Compensation and Benefit Agreement effective July 1, 2026 Responsible Department: Administrative Services
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: None as these pay rates were approved with the SEIU Negotiations /Memornadum of Understanding
City Council Action: Approved Resolution of Pay Rates and Ranges Related to the Approved of SEIU MOU and Unrepresented Compensation and Benefit Agreement effective July 1, 2026. Approval of resolution of pay rates

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and ranges related to the Approved of SEIU MOU and Unrepresented Compensation and Benefit Agreement effective July 1, 2026
Minute Order Number: 2026-172
Resolution Number: 6775-2026
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS/PRESENTATIONS: Informational Items or Presentations are items that are informational only and do not require action by the City Council. Presentations shall be scheduled as necessary for the promotion of an event or service or general information items to the Council and should be limited to ten (10) minutes total in length of item (total length includes questions of Council to presenter and public comment).

NONE
REGULAR CALENDAR AGENDA ITEMS (DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION):

13. Fireworks Event Special Event Fee Waiver. Request from the Kiwanis Club to waive special event fee, materials, and staff time for the 3rd of July Fireworks Event Responsible Department: Public Works
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: Kiwanis is requesting that the fees ($700), and staff time be waived for the event.

Public Works Director Hart presented the agenda item recommending the City Council approval waiver of the special event fee, materials, and staff time for the 3rd of July Fireworks Event Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. The Council asked various questions of City staff and applicant.

Mayor McLewis opened the public comment period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public comment period: None
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:

Council continued discussion of the item.

Mayor McLewis called for a motion.

MOTION:

Mayor McLewis moved and Vice Mayor Maurer seconded the motion to approve waiver of the special event fee, materials, and staff time for the 3rd of July Fireworks Event in a total amount of $6,263 Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zollman, Vice Mayor Maurer and Mayor McLewis Noes: None

Absent: None
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved waiver of the special event fee, materials, and staff time for the 3rd of July Fireworks Event in a total amount of $6,263
Minute Order Number: 2026-173
PUBLIC HEARING(s):

14. Public Hearing: AB 2561 Public Agency Vacancy Reporting/Compliance Update. California State Assembly Bill (AB) 2561 was approved on September 22, 2024, and added §3502.3 to the Government Code. This law, effective January 1, 2025, requires public agencies at least once each fiscal year to: (1) hold a public

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hearing and receive the agency’s report on the status of vacancies and recruitment and retention efforts; (2) during the hearing, identify any necessary changes to policies, procedures, and recruitment activities that may lead to hiring obstacles; and, (3) allow the recognized employee organization for bargaining units to make a presentation at the hearing. In addition, if the number of job vacancies within a single bargaining unit meets or exceeds 20% of the total number of authorized full-time positions, the City must, upon request of the recognized employee organization, include additional specified information during the public hearing. AB 2561 requires public agencies to report annually, at a public hearing, on staffing vacancies and recruitment and retention efforts, and to provide employee organizations an opportunity to present.

Responsible Department: Human Resources Consultant Deborah Muchmore/City Manager Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact:

Deborah Muchmore, Human Resources Consultant, presented the agenda item recommending the City Council hold a public hearing and receive the agency’s report on the status of vacancies and recruitment and retention efforts; (2) during the hearing, identify any necessary changes to policies, procedures, and recruitment activities that may lead to hiring obstacles; and, (3) allow the recognized employee organization for bargaining units to make a presentation at the hearing
Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. None
Mayor McLewis opened the public hearing period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public hearing period: None
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:

Council continued discussion of the item.

Mayor McLewis called for a motion.

MOTION:

Councilmember Zollman moved and Mayor McLewis seconded the motion to approve receipt of the agency’s report on the status of vacancies and recruitment and retention efforts.

Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zollman, Vice Mayor Maurer and Mayor McLewis Noes: None

Absent: None
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved the agency’s report on the status of vacancies and recruitment and retention efforts.

Minute Order Number: 2026-174

15. Public Hearing: FY 2026-27 Street Lighting Assessment District. Adopt a resolution approving the annual Engineer’s Report, confirming the Assessment Diagram, and authorizing the levy of annual assessments for Fiscal Year 2026-27 for the City of Sebastopol Street Lighting Special Assessment District. This item was continued from the June 2, 2026 City Council Meeting.

Responsible Department: Administrative Services
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda item is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: None. The proposed annual assessment charge of $23.32 for each ESD is anticipated to generate roughly $94,470 in revenue related to the action recommended for approval tonight. This amount is planned to be allocated in the Fiscal Year 2026-27 City Budget, with corresponding expenses of about $106,365.

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It is important to note that the expected revenue does cover the forecasted expenses, leading to an estimated use of the fund balance of June 30, 2027, of roughly $11,395. The projected fund balance as of June 30, 2027, is approximately $23,520, representing 22.1% of total expenditures. While the assessment district is not required to maintain a specific fund balance level, this amount is considered adequate given that no new projects are planned for the upcoming fiscal year.

Administrative Services Director Kwong presented the agenda item recommending the City Council Adopt a resolution approving the annual Engineer’s Report, confirming the Assessment Diagram, and authorizing the levy of annual assessments for Fiscal Year 2026-27 for the City of Sebastopol Street Lighting Special Assessment District.

Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. None
Mayor McLewis opened the public hearing period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public hearing period: None
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:

Council continued discussion of the item.

Mayor McLewis called for a motion.

MOTION:

Councilmember Zollman moved and Mayor McLewis seconded the motion to approve adoption of a resolution approving the annual Engineer’s Report, confirming the Assessment Diagram, and authorizing the levy of annual assessments for Fiscal Year 2026-27 for the City of Sebastopol Street Lighting Special Assessment.

Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zollman, Vice Mayor Maurer and Mayor McLewis Noes: None

Absent: None
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved to adopt a resolution approving the annual Engineer’s Report, confirming the Assessment Diagram, and authorizing the levy of annual assessments for Fiscal Year 2026-27 for the City of Sebastopol Street Lighting Special Assessment.

Minute Order Number: 2026-175
Resolution Number: 6776-2026

16. Public Hearing: FY26 27 City Budget. Item is to conduct a public hearing to gather community input. This provides an opportunity for residents to voice their opinions, concerns, and suggestions which may help shape the final budget. It is recommended that the City Council conduct the public hearing and provide direction on the Proposed Fiscal Year 2026–27 Budget. Upon conclusion of the hearing, staff recommends that the City Council consider of adoption of the FY 2026–27 Budget. This item was continued from the June 2, 2026 City Council Meeting.

Responsible Department: Administrative Services
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda item is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: The fiscal impacts associated with the Proposed FY 2026–27 Budget are detailed within the budget document. A snapshot is listed below.

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Categories
General
Fund
General
Fund
Reserves
Non
Governmental
Funds Water Fund
Wastewater
Fund
Special
Revenue
Funds
Assessment
District Total
Estimated Beginning Balance 5,238,097 4,845,115 1,481,444 2,359,173 2,124,177 1,920,159 34,915 18,003,080 Total Proposed Revenue 15,622,473 170,000 58,900 4,476,583 6,992,336 4,040,702 94,970 31,455,964 Total Proposed Expenditures 16,582,911 373,300 940,126 4,543,433 6,368,812 2,199,667 106,365 31,114,614 Net Budgetary Surplus/(Deficit) (960,438) (203,300) (881,226) (66,850) 623,524 1,841,035 (11,395) 341,350 Addition/(Uses) of Reserves (960,438) (203,300) (881,226) (66,850) 623,524 1,841,035 (11,395) 341,350 Estimated Ending Balance 4,277,659 4,641,815 600,218 2,292,323 2,747,701 3,761,194 23,520 18,344,430 Administrative Services Director Kwong presented the agenda item recommending the City Council conduct the public hearing and provide direction on the Proposed Fiscal Year 2026–27 Budget. Upon conclusion of the hearing, staff recommends that the City Council consider adoption of the FY 2026–27 Budget.

Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. The Council asked various questions of City staff.

Mayor McLewis opened the public hearing period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public hearing period:

Kate
Lee
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:

Council continued discussion of the item.

Mayor McLewis called for a motion.

MOTION:

Vice Mayor Maurer moved and Councilmember Hinton seconded the motion to Adopt the FY26–27 budget this evening and the following related resolutions:

1. Adopt a resolution of the Council of the City of Sebastopol adopting the budget for fiscal year 2026-27 and making appropriations for amounts budgeted.

2. Adopt a resolution of the Council of the City of Sebastopol determining and establishing the City’s Appropriations Limit for the fiscal year 2026-27.

3. Adopt a resolution of the Council of the City of Sebastopol for the expenditure plan for Supplemental Law Enforcement Services (SLESF) funding for the fiscal year 2026-27.

Items as directed by City staff as noted below:

Budget Adjustment Recap (Net Impact)
Reductions / Savings
• Main Street subscription reduction: $500
• City Manager (suspended training & travel & subscription): $2,500 o Training: $600
o Travel: $1,500
o California City Mgmt Foundation: $400
• Assistant City Manager / City Clerk adjustments: $125,855

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o Salary & benefits savings: Achieved through staffing adjustments, including suspending the Assistant City Manager recruitment and filling the City Clerk position at an entry-level, resulting in reduced staffing cost: $120,000
o Recruitment cost reduction: $5,000
o Professional dues (IIMC, ICMA, CalPELRA): $855
• Administrative Services (GFOA award fee removal): $1,000 • Planning (staffing approach savings): hiring entry level of Associate Planner and a part-time contract Planning Director on an interim basis until a permanent director is appointed: $130,000.

Subtotal – Total Savings: $259,855
Additions / Increased Costs
• Rate study and/or time tracking module: $75,000
• Additional contracted services for EIFD work programed in Planning Dept: $75,000 Net Budget Impact (excluding EIFD contract amount)
$259,855 (savings) – $150,000 (costs) = $109,855 net savings Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote.

City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, and Vice Mayor Maurer Noes: Councilmember Zollman and Mayor McLewis

Absent: None
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved to adopt a resolution for the FY26–27 budget this evening and the following related resolutions:

1. Adopt a resolution of the Council of the City of Sebastopol adopting the budget for fiscal year 2026-27 and making appropriations for amounts budgeted.

2. Adopt a resolution of the Council of the City of Sebastopol determining and establishing the City’s Appropriations Limit for the fiscal year 2026-27.

3. Adopt a resolution of the Council of the City of Sebastopol for the expenditure plan for Supplemental Law Enforcement Services (SLESF) funding for the fiscal year 2026-27.

Minute Order Number: 2026-176
Resolution Numbers: 6777-2026, 6778-2026 and 6779-2026

17. Public Hearing – Capital Improvement Budget: Responsible Department: Public Works/Administrative Services
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda item is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: The proposed expenditures for the FY 2026-27 Capital Improvement Projects totals $10,116,087. $3,860,457 of that total is unfunded/unsecured grant. The balance of $6,255.630 is funded with grant or local funds. The proposed CIP includes a combination of secured funding sources and future grantdependent projects identified as “Unsecured Grant” funding. Major funding sources include Sewer Capital Funds, Water Capital Funds, Measure M funds, SB1 Road Maintenance and Rehabilitation funds, Go Sonoma grant funds, Development Impact Fees, Gas Tax funds, Flood Mitigation Fund, Building/Facility Infrastructure Reserve funds, and Measure U. The Measure U funding includes $510,000 allocated toward road repair in the FY 2025–26 budget, as well as $612,800, or 40% of the FY 2026–27 Measure U revenue, which will also be allocated

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toward road repair. These funds will advance the FY26 Citywide Pavement Improvement Project (0521-25.05) and the FY27 Citywide Pavement Improvement Project (0522-26.01).

Public Works Director Hart presented the agenda item recommending the City Council conduct the public hearing and provide direction on the Capital Improvement Budget. Upon conclusion of the hearing, staff recommends that the City Council consider adoption of the FY 2026–27 Capital Improvement Budget. The item was to discuss two specific projects; remainder of CIP will be continued to July7th Council Meeting.

Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. The Council asked various questions of City staff.

Mayor McLewis opened the public hearing period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public hearing period:

Kate
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:

Council continued discussion of the item.

Mayor McLewis called for a motion.

MOTION:

Councilmember Zollman moved and Councilmember Hinton seconded the motion to approve adoption of a resolution approving the FY 2026–27 Capital Improvement Budget for projects noted below and continued the remainder of the CIP Hearing to the July 7th City Council Meeting at or after 6:00pm at the Sebastopol Youth Annex.

Morris Street Sewer Pump Station Repairs (project No.0617-25.02) and Calder Creek Storm Drain and Outfall Silt and Debris Maintenance Removal (Project No. 0715-26.11)
Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zollman, Vice Mayor Maurer and Mayor McLewis Noes: None

Absent: None
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved to adopt a resolution approving the FY 2026–27 Capital Improvement Budget for projects noted below and continued the remainder of the CIP Hearing to the July 7th City Council Meeting at or after 6:00pm at the Sebastopol Youth Annex.

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Minute Order Number: 2026-177
Resolution Number: 6780-2026

18. Public Hearing: Updating Schedule of User and Regulatory Fees for Use in Fiscal Year 2026-27 Responsible Department: Administrative Services
Fiscal Impact: Staff time required to prepare the agenda report is covered within existing budgeted salaries.

Additional Fiscal Impact: The anticipated fiscal impact is an estimated $27,000 increase in General Fund revenues. The intent of these adjustments is to offset incremental increases in service costs due to inflation and maintain cost recovery for services provided. These adjustments do not represent new funding for expanded service levels.

Administrative Services Director Kwong presented the agenda item recommending the City Council conduct the public hearing and provide direction on the Schedule of User and Regulatory Fees for Use in Fiscal Year 2026-27.

Upon conclusion of the hearing, staff recommends that the City Council consider approval of resolution for adoption of the User and Regulatory Fees for Use in Fiscal Year 2026-27.

Mayor McLewis opened for questions of staff. The Council asked various questions of City staff.

Mayor McLewis opened the public hearing period. The following member(s) of the public spoke during the public hearing period: None
City Council Discussion/Deliberations/Comments:

Council continued discussion of the item.

Mayor McLewis called for a motion.

MOTION:

Councilmember Hinton moved and Vice Mayor Maurer seconded the motion to approve adoption of resolution for adoption of the User and Regulatory Fees for Use in Fiscal Year 2026-27.

Mayor McLewis called for a roll call vote. City staff conducted a roll call vote.

VOTE:

Ayes: Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zollman, Vice Mayor Maurer and Mayor McLewis Noes: None

Absent: None
Abstain: None
City Council Action: Approved Resolution for adoption of the User and Regulatory Fees for Use in Fiscal Year 2026-27.

Minute Order Number: 2026-178
Resolution Number: 6781-2026
REGULAR CALENDAR AGENDA ITEMS (DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION) CONTINUED: NO FURTHER ITEMS ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA: Two minutes per speaker for up to twenty (20) minutes total for public comments but can be reduced at Mayor’s discretion depending upon the number of speakers or Mayor has discretion to allow for additional time beyond the 20 minutes allocated for public comment dependent upon the subject matter or number of speakers.

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COUNCILMEMBER(S) REQUESTS FOR FUTURE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS: None CITY COUNCIL/CITY STAFF REPORTS/COMMUNICATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/FUTURE MEETINGS:

19. City Manager and/or City Clerk Reports: (This will be either verbal reports at the meeting, or written reports provided at or prior to the meeting)
• Monthly Departmental Reports
Reference Order Number: 2026-179

20. City Council Reports/Committee/Sub-Committee Meeting Reports: (Reports by Mayor/City Councilmembers Regarding Various Agency Meetings/Committee Meetings/Sub-Committee Meeting /Conferences Attended and Possible Direction to its Representatives (If Needed) on Pending issues before such Boards. ((This will be either verbal reports at the meeting, or written reports provided at or prior to the meeting)

21. Council Communications Received (Information/Meetings/Correspondence Received from the General Public to Councilmembers)
CLOSED SESSION: NONE

ADJOURNMENT OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING
June 16, 2026 City Council Regular Meeting was adjourned by Mayor McLewis at 10:25 pm to the next Regular City Council Meeting of Tuesday, July 7, 2026 at 6:00 pm, Sebastopol Youth Annex, 425 Morris Street, Sebastopol, CA.

Respectfully submitted:

Mary C. Gourley
City Manager
Attachment 1: ZOOM Raw Minutes
Attachment 2: VITAC Real Time Transcription Minutes

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So is it okay?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, everyone, welcome this evening. Sorry, we're starting a couple minutes late. Let's see, let's go ahead and get started. If you'd like to do roll call, Mary?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Mayor. Councilmember Carter? 4 00:00:37.400 --> 00:00:39.380
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zolman? Present. 5 00:00:39.610 --> 00:00:51.910
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Vice Mayor Maurer? Here. Mayor McLewis? Here.

And Councilmember Hinton is absent as of right now. All right, thank you. Let's see, we don't have any remote participation, so let's just dothe salute to the flag, if everyone would stand with me.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Let's see something there. 7 00:00:59.720 --> 00:01:08.290
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, We are pleading to justice.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Great, everyone. Sorry, I have to get adjusted here.

At every meeting, we do a land acknowledgement.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The City of Sebastopol acknowledges that we live and work within the unceded ancestral homelands of the Southern Pomo and the Coast Miwok people. We pay our respect to the past, present, and future generations of these peoples, including the Federated Indians of Grayton Rancheria. 10 00:01:40.510 --> 00:01:54.650
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So the next thing on our agenda is that we will be doing interviews for the Sonoma County Library Commission. How we typically do this is we'll have, the applicant come up to the podium there and can Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, give us just an overview of what, whatever it is that you'd like to say, introduce yourself to us. We usually do about 2 minutes, 2 to 3 minutes, and then, the Council will ask questions. So, I just wanted to find out if we have…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Let's see, for Fred first, and then, and then we have Suzanne Turqua, and I believe Fred is on Zoom, is that correct? 13 00:02:18.330 --> 00:02:24.240
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It is. So, Steve, can you please unmute and allow video for Fred Ingbarth, please?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, Fred, I'm not sure if you heard me when I was talking.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But we had said, I had just said, if you'd like to just give us a quick overview, whatever, introduce yourself, whatever it is you want to say about this role, in about 2 to 3 minutes, and then we'll move, into questions from the Council.

Thank you for being here.

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Fred Engbarth: Oh, thank you for having me and going through this. And I'd like to have the opportunity to talk and
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Fred Engbarth: answer your questions. I've been a Sebastopol area resident 18 00:03:11.580 --> 00:03:27.170
Fred Engbarth: since, you know, 1974 or so, and I've been up in Sonoma County since 71.

Very active, employment-wise, worked at Sonoma State University from. 19 00:03:27.270 --> 00:03:32.609
Fred Engbarth: Being an activities, officer to assistant to… 20 00:03:32.790 --> 00:03:51.159
Fred Engbarth: the legal assistant to the president, then I opened a law practice and practiced law in Santa Rosa for a stretch. I was on Twin Hills Fire Department as an EMT and firefighter, before they became Goldridge.
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Fred Engbarth: And, have been involved with the library of… initially through my wife.

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Fred Engbarth: Helena Whistler, who was the representative, 23 00:04:03.420 --> 00:04:13.499
Fred Engbarth: from the 5th District for a number of years, and when I had the opportunity, both from closing my practice and
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Fred Engbarth: being available to volunteer for the position, I, decided to go ahead and do so, and I've been the,
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Fred Engbarth: Commissioner representing the City of Sebastopol for the past 4 or 5 years.

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Fred Engbarth: have a lot of things I could say, but I really would… I know you have a schedule, and I'll go with whatever questions you have. 27 00:04:46.750 --> 00:04:59.919
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, thank you. We have a question, Councilmember Solman? Thank you, Madam Mayor, and thank you, Fred, for applying and for all your past service. I'm just going to jump into it. You are aware that we're trying to revise the job description.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for the council liaison to the Library Commission to highlight the fact that there's a dual responsibility to be had with whomever we appoint.

Dual meaning the fact that you owe us
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: loyalty and duty to advocate for the needs of the city, While also having a responsibility
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: As part of the Library Commission. Is that your understanding?
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Fred Engbarth: Come on.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We lost you there. 35 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:52.090
Fred Engbarth: You guys have fro-.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We can see you and hear you. We, we could, we could hear you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, now I can't hear you. 38 00:06:00.690 --> 00:06:05.080
Fred Engbarth: Yeah, there's a problem, all of a sudden.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We can hear you now. 40 00:06:06.500 --> 00:06:11.750
Fred Engbarth: There we go. So yes, I'm aware of, that, Steven. 41 00:06:12.960 --> 00:06:20.519
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And during your years, my observation, being the Council's liaison to most
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: of the library issues here. Do you feel like you've been successful in keeping that dual responsibility?
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Fred Engbarth: administration, and some of the other members go, because I have been… 46 00:06:53.870 --> 00:07:08.079
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Fred Engbarth: even though we have a great JPA agreement, I think that there needs to be some balance brought to it as far as the,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, can you, tell us how you've advocated for the needs of our library here in Sebastopol?
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Fred Engbarth: Pretty, you know, by being, going to the commission meetings, I bring up, what's… what we're doing in, in the city, and what, what we need as far as, more space. And when I first got on thecommission.
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Fred Engbarth: And realized that the, issue of, this, the library working with the city to, to develop, our…
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Fred Engbarth: look for an opportunity to increase the size of the space of the library. I, formed a, a committee that involved, Councilmember Zolman and Sarah Gurney, to start working on that. And that, in turn, is developed into the, 55 00:08:28.980 --> 00:08:34.830
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Fred Engbarth: working with people, as opposed to providing a service to people. And so, whenever that opportunity comes up to point out that there's a distinction in terms of lack of communication, or not really involving our community in decision making. 58 00:09:01.030 --> 00:09:11.130
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Good? Okay. Any other questions? Go ahead.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hey, you have a fiduciary, responsibility as a part of the JPA to make sure that the,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The efficiency ofthe organization is… is, 64 00:09:48.580 --> 00:10:06.310
Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I guess that's a backwards statement. I guess you're responsible for the efficiency of the operation. What do you think you can bring to the Commission as faras a vote to, improve its operational efficiency,cost reductions, or better use of funds?
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Fred Engbarth: when they had the agreement drafted was they didn't implement it. They didn't have an implementation plan. And I think what that allowed was for the library to fall back into the default
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Fred Engbarth: balance, and it's a balancing that needs to occur, and that… that balancing has not been really, developed or explored or implemented within the Library Commission, from my point of view.
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Fred Engbarth: Bring the library into a point where it is paying more attention to your needs. 80 00:12:32.550 --> 00:12:34.640
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Could you expound on that for me? Because that's one of the questions I have. I hear what you're saying, and I also know the bureaucracy and the number of people that are involved, and if you're working hard. Can you expound on how we might be able to help?
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Fred Engbarth: what… The cities and counties want
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Fred Engbarth: because there was the role that Steven talked about earlier, about representing the cities, and the response I had was that the cities can take care of that themselves. And I don't, I don't see it that way.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I was gonna ask if Councilmember… any other… okay. Vice Mayor ahead?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You asked my question. Oh, okay, perfect, okay.

Thank you very much. If there are no other questions, then, what our process is, is we're gonna, interview the next applicant, and then we're gonna also do our public arts, interviews, and then after that, is that when we're doing public comment, Mary? 98 00:14:48.590 --> 00:14:49.820
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes,you would do the interviews first, andthen you would come back and do the appointment, and at that time, you would do public comment. Do the appointment, and then public comment. You would discuss the appointment, have any questions, open for public comment, and then vote after that.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, so we… I have Suzanne Turk-White. I don't know who's… Suzanne. Hi! If you'd like to come up to the… to the podium here, we usually give 2 to 3 minutes, to just introduce yourself, why you want to do this, whatever it is that you want to say, and then we'll go through the same thing of, you know, asking questions.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I was just gonna answer questions. I didn't realize that, but I will introduce myself. My name is Suzanne White, and I have lived in the Spassball area
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, so I appreciate your willingness to come up here a little bit blind, throw yourselves to the wolves to try to participate as a library commissioner.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It involves quite a bit more than what the job description really is, because it probably should say advocate. 131
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think that the Library Commissioner is an advocate. You're an advocate for the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: readers, the people that use libraries, you're an advocate forthe local jurisdiction, and you'rean advocate for the library, staff, so that when they produce the numbers, that you would enjoy, that many other commissioners probably wouldn't enjoy.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That, that, you know, you can read into it and help as a board, you know, decide their direction.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It may be that, you could spend… we would love your participation, and it may be that, you know, this is just the start of that journey. 135
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For ya. Well, that sounds interesting. 136
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, any other questions, Vice Mayor? So if you were appointed, how would you advocate for the needs of the Sevastable Library? 137
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: anywhere. It's like the library for Sebastopol has certain needs, and there's, you know, a bunch of libraries within the county, and so that commission, if I'm understanding correctly.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: they vote for the needs of all the libraries, and my understanding is that the library here in Sebastopol has been shortchanged. 140
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For quite a while. Oh, oh, okay. And so, we need a strong advocate for
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I guess that would be my question. How… how are you at networking? How… how would you feel about advocating? 146
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For our needs, considering you'd be on a board of 11 people.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You're talking about the Library Commission as the board, okay. So my advocacy would be with them, not with this council. 148
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The… my ability, I think, that I would bring to that would be, to be able to
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't know, my go-to to provide a way to make that happen, or a suggestion, or a,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Any other questions? I have one. Are you… you said that you work… you're good with numbers. Are you an accountant? No. Okay. I… well, I've received some account… but only within school district accounting, which is fund accounting.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Got it. I just wondered, we have other committees. Did anyone else have anything?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No? Okay, all right. Thank you very much, really appreciate you coming up here, and sorry to put you on the spot. Whatever, you can, yeah, whatever you'd like to do.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yep, just like the last one, we'll go through the same process.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There we go. Perfect. What do you think? Good? Yep.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I've lived here for 50 years. About a month ago, my friend Robert Brent asked me if I would serve on the Public Arts Commission, and I said yes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Art has been an important part of my life, or all of my life.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm a volunteer with Sebastopo Center for the Arts. I have a house full of art.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's the extent of it. Great, thank you. I'll wait for my other question.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anyone else?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: A vice mayor?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, you are a photographer? Yes. And, you said you love all kinds of art. Can you give us an impression of some of your favorite pieces, or some of the favorite art genre that you really, really love? 182
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, let me start… I've been thinking about public art.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so Let me… Talk about a couple of my favorite pieces of public art.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: one that was very local that I hadn't thought about for years. Do any of you guys remember the door to Heck? 185
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That was, I thought, a wonderful piece of public art. It was…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Collaborative, it was well done, it was beautifully displayed, it was kind of charmingly subversive.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For those of you that never saw it, it was a door made of concrete set into the grassy knoll
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: anybody saying anything about it, and people were just left to draw their own conclusions. It was subversive in that it was across the street from two churches, which made it
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: interesting for everyone. The artists that did it were wonderful. I have always loved that piece.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and… Sculpture and mural are the things that are Most associated with public art.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And disappeared after 2 years when an apartment building was built next to it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That would be… what I would hope to have as public art in Sebastopol.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I have a question. On the application, you said you thought in our larger buildings we should have murals. Which buildings here in Sebastopol do you think would be appropriate? I don't know. I have not looked or thought about it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Sol, you didn't have any more, Vice Mayor? You didn't have any? Okay, all right. Thank you very much, we really appreciate it. So now we're going to go into our… our next phase.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then we just need to discuss. And then you need to discuss, go out for public comment, and then come back for a action. Okay, so go ahead.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Thank you, Madam Mayor. So, yes, as the, council liaison to at least the lab, and a lot of things library-related, I can't speak highly enough of the work that Fred has done.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: he's being modest about the amount of time that he contributes to this position. We meet at least monthly, myself and Sarah Gurney, and before the Building the Commons, it was the three of us and Mary Lou Schmidt from Gravenstein Health Action to continuously talk about
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: where we are with our library and the needs, and as Vice Mayor Maurer indicated, how library administration is not meeting the current needs. And I feel like now, more so than ever, we need to stick with somebody who has demonstrated
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: figureout ways we can support Fred if he's appointed, and continue in that capacity, so I will be supporting Fred's renewal. Thank you.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, I wanted to thank Suzanne for applying. I know sometimes
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you don't know it till you get there, and so, it's just, I would encourage her to continue to, maybe volunteer or put her application in for other things, but tonight I'll have support for it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anyone else? I… if not, then I… I was just gonna say I… I too, I'm gonna support the continuity of having Fred, continue, given all the… the current circumstances. And Suzanne, I truly hope that you will. 226
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: like, look at what are the other things that we have going on, and consider volunteering for that, because it's really hard to get people to step up. I manage 45 volunteers where I… in the organization I'm at, and I really appreciate all of them, the time, so that's where I'm standing. I don't know if anyone else has anything they'd like to say.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What about public comments? Well, we're gonna go… we're gonna discuss the appointment for the Public Arts Commission, and then we'll go to public comment, correct, Mary? No, you do the public… Oh, you want to do the public first?Okay. And then we'll do public commentfor public arts after that. Okay, perfect. 228
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead. Thank you, Mayor. So this is the opportunity for public comment for the discussion of the consideration of appointment to the Library Commission. If you'd like to make a public comment, I believe we have a public comment in-house, and then it'll go out to Zoom. It is a 2-minute public time period. 230
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council Members.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm Martin Reed, a Sebastopol resident and registered voter of 9 years, and executive director of the Sonoma County Tool Library, where a dozen volunteers give residents of every income level free access to over a thousand tools.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And to me, that's the public library mission in miniature.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll be straight, I applied after the deadline, and that's on me. So I'm not asking to be added to tonight's agenda, I'm asking for something simpler.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Before you appoint tonight, Consider holding the seat open.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Reopening applications for 2 weeks and interviewing a fuller field at your next meeting.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes,that could leavethe seat briefly vacant, but this is a 4-year term.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And a short gap is a small, manageable cost for getting a 4-year decision right.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And for letting the pool reflect the Sebastopol first requirements you just codified.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Our Sevastopol branch is widely recognized as one of the busiest in the county system per square foot, doing extraordinary work in a building that's far too small and now closed indefinitely. 241
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This seat needs a dedicated advocate for that branch, and for thecommunity hub that would finallygive it room. That's exactly what I'd be.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I mean no disrespect to the two candidates you just heard. I'm only asking for the chance to earn your consideration in an open process. 243
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment. Next, I will go out to Zoom. Kyle, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Kyle Falbo: So, I really do appreciate the, the transparency tonight by a council member making reference to the mold that is currently, leaving our library closed.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Kyle, for your public comment. Next, I will come back into chambers, if there's anyone in Chambers that would like to make a public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go back out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment on the appointment for the planning, or, I'm sorry, for the Library Commission, please raise your hand virtually. 261
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed on this item. Okay, thank you. We're back at the dais.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, no, I definitely appreciate, the other potential candidate, through public comment and the other public commenter, and taking that all into consideration, I am still, hugely in support of
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: continuing on with our current library commissioner, so I'm making a motion to reappoint Fred Ingbarth as our Library Commissioner.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For the candidate that has applied. Did you want to make a motion? I'm sorry, I'll second it. Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right. Anyone else before this comment? Go ahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I want to thank the other applicants, Suzanne, and I'm sorry I didn't catch your name, but you came and spoke to us, and I appreciate your suggestion. I think at this time.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The city and the library are in literally a crisis situation, and I want to have the continuity of somebody who knows 273
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: what's going on on that commission. And also, I would support Councilmember Zollman's suggestion, because he is the liaison, and he has… he's been involved with the library, not just for the time on his council, but even before that. So, I will support,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Fred Ingarth for this position, and thank you all for your app… for your interest, too.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, if no one else, then go ahead, Mary. 277
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So moved by Councilmember Zolman and seconded by Councilmember Carter to approve Fred Ingbar to the Sonoma County Library Commission for a term ending June 30th, 2030. Councilmember Carter? Yes.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Mayor McLewis? Yes. Motion passes unanimously. All right, thank you. Now we're going to move on to, the public arcs.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: appointment, so if anyone has any comments, go ahead. No, I just really appreciate, Don applying and coming to speak. 281
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seems like a very interesting person, and I appreciate him volunteering in the capacities that he mentioned, so I'm a big supporter, and I'll move for his appointment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, any other comments or anything like that? Okay, then we'll go to public comment. Thank you, Mayor. So this is public comment for the appointment to the Public Arts Committee. If you would like to make a public comment, it is a 2-minute time limit. I will come to in-house chambers first. Seeingnone, I will go out to Zoom, if there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment. 283
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, there's no public comment for this item. Okay, thank you, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So now, now I'll go ahead and move, move for his appointment. Okay. And I'll second.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, so moved by Councilmember Zolman, and seconded by Vice Mayor Maurer to appoint Don Grimer to the Public Arts Committee for Category 1 for a term ending December 31st, 2029. Councilmember Carter? Yes.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Mayor McLewis? Yes. Motion passes unanimously. All right, thank you. Okay. Thank you all very much for coming here and being on Zoom, and we're gonna move on to our, next item here, and that's, as mayor, I… each time I remember, something about the history of Sebastopol. 288
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And this time, I just wanted to mention that since 2023, the City of Sebastopol has recognized June 19th, or Juneteenth, as a holiday commemorating
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That is happening this week. And then, let's see… we don't have any proclamations, so then we'll, any conflicts of interest from anyone? 291
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No? Okay, all right, no conflicts of interest. So now we're going to go to our public comment for items that are not on the agenda, and Mary will go ahead and handle that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Mayor. So this is for public comment for items that are not on the agenda. It is a 20-minute time limit. It is 2 minutes per speaker, so we have about 10 speakers. We do 2minutes in chambers first, go out to Zoom, come back to chambers, go back to Zoom until we reach that 20-minute time limit. So is there anyone in chambers, please?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: My name is Doug Ewell. I live on Petaluma Avenue.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I want to speak to the issue of smoke from A&M Barbecue.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm glad A&M is successful, Sebastopol needs successful businesses, and I realize that, but they have to control their smoke. 296
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In August, I spoke with the owner and suggested he add filtration tohis stacks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And he told me they were going to be moving in a couple of months.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: SoI talked… I filed acomplaint with the Bay Area Air Quality Management District in January.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And they eventually referred me to the city. 301
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, since then, I've been in correspondence with various members of the city.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And in March, it looked like the zoning enforcement was gonna… was promising.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And in May, the smokers disappeared, and in June, they returned.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Evidently, A&M andthe City staff had agreed to suspend the enforcement of the zoning regulations until the end of the year to allow for A&M to relocate.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But essentially, that throws the neighborhood under the bus.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It means selective enforcement, which, if legal, is certainly not a good precedent.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For me, the preferred solution would be to fit the smokers with effectivemeans of filtration to eliminate or significantly reduce the smoke. 310
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And help defray the expenseof such, filtration, if it can be, you know, if someone can
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment. Next, I'll go out to Zoom. Steve, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Steve Pierce: You get achance to go and check out the new fencing that's there in the first phase of the fencing project. It looks beautiful. I think it's the biggest improvement I've seen in the park in the 30 years that I've lived here.
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Steve Pierce: And I'm hoping that we can continue this kind of low-hanging fruit that makes improvements in our town. I think we can point to improvements in the plaza, the new trash cans as an example of there are things we can execute on that don't cost a lot. This is something like $42,000for this first phase of the fencing, and it looks beautiful. 324
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Steve Pierce: I encourage everybody to go down and check it out, and I also encourage the Council to set aside money for the next phase around the central meadow, because this fencing needs to continue. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Steve, for your public comment. Next, I will come into chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Kate? I, I'm…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: First off, I say bravo to Steve Pierce. I totally agree with him on the low-hanging fruit, and I love any improvements to Ives. I'm here because I felt after my presentation with my peers on the Enterprise Oversight Committee that, 330
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Council might have needed more clarity on our recommendations, so I wanted to follow up tonight. We recommend that Council direct staff to implement time tracking by September1st, 2026. 331
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We recommendthat Councildirect staff to refund the Enterprise Fund's $350,000 for an excess of attorney's fees in the last two years. It is clear these fees were inappropriately allocated.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Legal fees became a direct charge in the current plan.TheCityrecognized theirmistakeand changed theclassification.Enterprisefunds should be reimbursed for the mistake of the previous two years. We recommend that Council direct staff
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to have water and sewer rates remain the static, and not to increase July 1st, and to remove the tiered rates. 334
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: As rates and tiers are not based on accurate data, are not justified, andtherefore illegal, water pricing should be set to the lowest current tier, which is $5.22 per kgal.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We suggest keeping rates static until new rate study can be produced based on new data and all other capital improvement plans. 336
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And we also note that removing tiers and static rates will have a positive impact on the general fund, and also help all of our residents, businesses, and nonprofits in this time ofescalating costs. 337
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We recommendthat theCouncil direct staff to adjust the current cost allocation model in the following ways. Move all… Wait, that's 2 minutes. Okay, thank you. Thank you for your public comment. Now we'll go back out to Zoom. Lisa, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Lisa Pierce: Okay, my name's Lisa Pierce, and I also want to tell you all how grateful I am that you approved funding for the new fencing. What a huge upgrade for our park, and it didn't cost that much.
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Lisa Pierce: We now have the middle section of the creek. It's already naturalized and ready and waiting for some love. The only thing that's been done since it used to be a pond 27 years ago is mowing the grass. It's ready for some boulders, some native low-maintenance river grasses, and some access.
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Lisa Pierce: Imagine how much more appealing and beautiful this middle of the park could be with the new fencing and landscaping. Imagine how happy people would be to see this, and how the park would shine during Apple Blossom and other events. 345
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Lisa Pierce: If you're wondering about insurance liability with having a gate that is open seasonally, the cusp design calls for not having any fencing around the creek. Our insurance carrier clearly told Mary Gorley that they will not cover insurance for the park unless the creek is fenced.
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Lisa Pierce: Which makes sense, given how much water there is there during storms.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Lisa, for your public comment. Next, I will come into chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: myself, many of my neighbors are deeply disappointed with the decision to permit the smokers to continue the commercial size, humongous, bellowing-out smokers to continue for the next 6 months. 350
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The, air… the air monitors, that are… that are up, that are closest to the… the business, the A&M business. 351
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: show that, regularly we're reaching the orange level on air quality. And, as probably many of you know, when it reaches that level, the orange level.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That, it's… it… the air is harmful to people with certain sensitive, individuals, which, is defined as the elderly, like me. 353
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the children and people with chronic health conditions. And there are many, many people who live around that smoker who have these conditions… who are within that category. I mean, very close to it is a nursing home, for goodness sakes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: on Morris Avenue, over half a mile away from AMM Barbecue. And I'm sure it didn't reveal a problem.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Those of us who live around this thing aren't saying this is a Sevastopol-wide problem. We're saying it's a problem for, what, a few hundred people that live in our neighborhoods. I think I made my point. 358
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Let's see, we are going to move on to the consent calendar, and I'm going to go ahead and read the items. Item number 5, approval of City Council meeting minutes for closed session meeting of June 1, 2026. Approval number 6, approval of City Council meeting minutes for regular meeting. 365
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: of June 2nd, 2026. Number 7, approval of resolution calling the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Calling and giving notice of a general municipal election to be heldon Tuesday, November 3rd,2026, the first Tuesdayafter the first Monday in November of each year, for the election of members of City Council as required. 367
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and requesting the Sonoma County Board of Supervisors to consolidate the general municipal election with the statewide general election to be held on that date pursuant to Elections Code. 368
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: An approval of resolution adopting regulations for candidates for electiveoffice pertaining tothecandidate's statements of qualifications, and requiring each candidate filing a statement of qualifications pay in advance to the local agency an estimated prorate share of $900,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: As a condition of having statement included in the voter's pamphlet for the municipal election to be held November 3rd, 2026. Mary, do I need to read all these points out loud?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No? I just want to make sure what needs to be… You don't have to read every single thing, you can just read the key item of the agenda.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, so number 8, Approval of resolution authorizing City Manager per Sebastopol Municipal Code 2.12.210 to be assigned such other duties and exercise such as other powers as may be delegated to him from time to time by ordinance or resolution or other action of the City Council. 372
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This item is to approve critical clerk functions that need to be completed in a time period when the city is without a clerk, and assign them to the citymanager until aposition is filled.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: disclosure categories of types of interest that must be reported. These codes are to be reviewed, and if necessary, updated every 2 years in order to stay abreast of the current
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: stateof law, and to accurately reflect individual office holders subject to requirements. The update is required this calendar year. 376
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Number 10, Digouts and Repair Contract Award, award of Construction Contract for the Digouts and Repair Pavement Rehabilitation Project, CIP number 0520-22.09.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Number 11, approve SB1 funded project list for the fiscal year 2026-27 pursuant to SB1, the Road Repair and Accountability Act of 2017.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I'll go out to Zoom, if there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment.
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Kyle Falbo: Are we gonna just consolidate power into a handful of individuals? Are we gonna actually perform our duties and find candidates for thepositions that ourcity deserves?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Kyle, for your public comment. Next, I will come into chambers, if there's anyone in chambers. 403
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go back out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment on the consent calendar, please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed for consent calendar items.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, thank you very much. So, do we have a motion? I'll go ahead and move the consent calendar items.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So moved by Councilmember Zolman, and seconded by Vice Mayor Maurer to approve Consent Calendar Items 5 through 12.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer? Yes. Mayor McLewis? Yes. Motion passes unanimously. All right, thank you very much. 409
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Moving on, we have informational item presentations. We don't have any of those tonight, so the next item is our regular calendar, agenda items, discussion, and action. Number 13, July 3rd, fireworks event special event fee waiver. Request from Kiwanis Club to waive special event fee materials and staff time 410
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for the 3rd of July fireworks event, and I believe… Oriana, are you doing that? Yes. Thank you. Good evening, Council and Mayor. This item was brought as a request bythe Kiwanis Club to waive the event fees and staff time for the July 3rd event that's coming up.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's going to be held here at the community center again, and they're looking for public works staffing to helpthem set upthe barricades, and for the police staffing to help provide public safety, as well as waivingthe fees. And I believe the Kiwanis Club is here to answer any questions, and we can bring it back to you for discussion.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so who will be answering questions for us up here?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: At the podium.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Felina, thank you. 415
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, go ahead, Councilmember Zolen. Thank you, Madam Mayor, and so thank you. Thank you for all of your continued work. I don't know, I feel a sense of responsibility to keep asking the question every year, even though I know what the answer
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Will be, about the exploration of, quieter things that we can use to celebrate for the animals in the area. 417
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: PTSD, veterans, all those type of things, and I'm assuming you're going to say the costs are still too high, but I'd still like to hear that. No, I'm glad you asked. We do continue to look at it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I can add that I… I would love to maybe look at next year doing something a smaller portion of the show with drones, trying them out. Of course, there is a huge expense, and so it's…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's difficult for our small club to be able to afford the expense. Last time we looked.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It was close to $200,000 to provide a show that was anywhere similar to the one that we do, that we've done for the last 53 years. So, yes, we continue to look at it. We have several club members that are really invested in that idea, and I'm one of them. So, I think that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Keep asking, and we will keep doing our research, and if anyone has any
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Any connections to anyone that can provide drones, for even a portion of the show, that would be helpful. 423
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't think so, we just had that one question.

Thank you so much. I do have one little thing that we did this year that I wanted to add, is that we did purchase, 24 crowd control barriers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That, Public Works is allowing us to store there, and we're allowing them to use them for other activities in Sebastopol, so we're hoping to… 426
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We know we need them to separate out the area that Public Works needs access out of the event, and so we're going to use them for that, and hopethattheycan benefiteveryone.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In town. Thank you for that. Thank you very much. 428
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, no other questions, then we'll just go to public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Mayor. So this is for the request for the event waiver fee for the Kiwanis for the 3rd of July event. If you'd like to make a public comment, I willcome into chambers first.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment for the Chamber… I'm sorry, for the Kiwanis event for the 3rd of July.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, there's no public comment. 433
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, thank you. Any… we're back at the dais for any comments or anything like that? Otherwise, I'll just make a motion, 434
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If you name it for, 435
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for the event fee waiver forJuly 3rd fireworks, 436
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: A request from the Kiwanis Club? I don't know, is there anything else you need me to… Second that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, so moved by Mayor McLewis and seconded by Vice Mayor Marrow to approve the waiver for the special event fee, materials, Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Councilmember Herton? Aye.

Councilmember Zolman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Mayor McLewis? Yes. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you very much, everyone.Can I ask for a clarification on the dollar amount? Sure.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I, I thought it was 6,000… 263? No? 441
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is it 50? I believe that's… yeah, that's the total of all of ourestimated staff time and the event fees. So the event fees are $700, andthen… So we actually needed to approve for all of it, so do you want to do a… 442
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We'll do a… thank you. Thank you for catching that, so… Because I thought, I heard, Mary say $5,000. She… I believe.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I did… the event fee was not included, but it was… 444
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, we could amend the motion to include the event fee, materials, and staff time forthe 3rd of July fireworks event for the Kiwanis, the total of $6,000.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 6,263.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So moved. Thank you. 447
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seconded the amendment? Yes. Thank you.

Councilmember Carter? Yes. Councilmember Hinton? Aye. Councilmember Zolman? Yes.

Vice Mayor Maurer? Yes. Mayor McLewis? Yes. Motion passes unanimously. All right, for a second time. Thank you. Gotta be precise. All right, number 14, public hearings.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: AB 2561, Public Agency Vacancy Reporting and Compliance Update.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: California State Assembly Bill AB2561 was approved on September 22nd, 2024, and added,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: let's see, 35… 3502.3 to the government code.

This law, effective January 1, 2025, requires public agencies at least once each fiscal year to, one, hold public hearing and receive the agency's report on the status of vacancies and recruitment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and retention efforts. Number two, during the hearing, identify any necessary changes to policy, procedures, and recruitment activities that may lead to hiring obstacles. And number three, allow the recognized employee organization for bargaining units to make a presentation at the hearing. 452
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In addition, if the number of job vacancies within a single bargaining unit meets or exceeds 20% of the total number of authorized full-time positions, the City must, upon request of the recognized employee organization, include additionalspecified information duringthepublic
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: hearing. AB2561 requires public agencies to report annually at a public hearing on staffing vacancies and recruitment and retention efforts, and to provide employee organizationsan opportunity to present. So, I believe we have our city manager and Deborah much more.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is it Debra, are you coming up to do? 455
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the presentation? 456
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Mayor, for saying all of that, and, good evening, Councilmembers. This is our second annual status of the vacancies in the city.

Last year was the first year, the,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that the law was in place, andthat affected on January 1st, as the Mayor said. This year, I'm actually very happy to say that the vacancy numbers in the city have improved.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: They were 17% overall last year, they're 14% overall this year. Last year, SEIU had a 22% vacancy, which raised the bar on what we had to report.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Regarding the vacancy, and this year, they… they have only11%, so there's been quite a bit of progress in filling positions in our SEIU bargaining group.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And one of the nice things about this law is that it does shed light on the recruitment practices in our public entities, and that was the purpose that the legislature had inmind whenthey passed this, oroffered thislaw, up for a vote.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, so this year we don't have, other than in our management group, we don't have any represented organizations that have higher than 20% vacancy.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So that means that we simply report the status of our vacancies, and make a designation that we have not found any policies or impediments to recruitment and selection.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, and offeran opportunityfor our labor organizations to speak, if they wish at the hearing. We did makethat offering. 464
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: SEIU really wanted to be here to speak, and they wanted, to express some gratefulness to the Council for the collaboration that we've had over, the efforts to recruit.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And the opportunity to speak, and the POA was also made the offer. I didn't receive a responseback in time for the… for the document, and I still don't have a response on that from them.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So any… I'm gonna open it up to Council now, and then, allow… for you to allow public comment after your discussion. 467
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Then, Mary?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So this is the opportunity for public comment on the public hearing related to the AB2561 for the public agency vacancy reporting. If you would like to make a public comment, Iwill doChambers first. 471
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go out to Zoom, if there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment on this public hearing. 472
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Please raise your hand virtually. 473
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, anyone back here at the dais? 475
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, we need to make a motion? To receive the report, yeah. Then I'll make that motion.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll second.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You do?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm sorry? You said… I'm sorry, I didn't get the second. Oh, yeah. You did. Thank you. So moved by Councilmember Zollman and seconded by Mayor McLewis to approve receipt of the agency's report on the status of vacancies and recruitment and retention efforts. Councilmember Carter? Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Councilmember Hinton? Aye.

Councilmember Zolman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer? Yes. Mayor McLewis? Yes. Motion passes unanimously.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you very much. We closed the public hearing.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, moving on to number 15, Public Hearing Fiscal year 2026-27. Street Lighting Assessment District, adopt the resolution approving theannualengineer'sreport,confirmingtheassessmentdiagramand authorizingthe levy of annual assessments for
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: fiscalyear 26-27 for the City of Sebastopol Street Lighting Special Assessment District. This item was continued from June 2nd, 2026 City Council meeting, and our Administrative Services… I guess, Ana, you'll be doing it. Yes, thank you, Madam Mayor. This item is for the Council to conduct a public hearing tonight.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Adopt the resolution approving the annual engineering report, confirm the assessment diagram, and authorize the levy of theannual assessment, that is proposed for $23.32 per equivalent single-family drilling unit, and it will be collected through property tax.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This isthe final step inthe three-step process. The last action will again authorize the levy of the lighting special assessment district for 2627 to fund ongoing lighting maintenance.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Oh, okay. 487
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, does anyone have any… Questions here? Okay, Erin?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Mayor. So this is public comment for the, FY2627 Street Lighting Assessment Districts.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sorry. If you'd like to make a public comment on the public hearing, I will go to InChambers first.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that'd like to make a public comment on this public hearing for street lighting assessment, please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, public comment is closed. Okay, thanks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, to make another motion to receive the report? If so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. So moved by Councilmember Zolman and seconded by Mayor McLewis to approve adoption of the resolution, approving the annualengineer'sreport,confirmingtheassessmentdiagram,and authorizingthelevyof annual assessments for the Street Lighting Assessment District. Councilmember Carter? 496
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes. Councilmember Hinton? Aye.

Councilmember Zolman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer? Yes. Mayor McLewis? Aye. Motion passes unanimously. All right, thank you very much.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We're moving right along. 498
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The next item is number 16, Public Hearing Fiscal Year 26-27 City Budget. Item is to conduct a public hearing to gather community input. This provides an opportunity for residents to voice their opinions, concerns, and suggestions, which mayhelp shapethefinalbudget.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This is the… that's from last year. Anyway, I mean, last, last meeting, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm actually going to turn this over to our Administrative Services. Anna? Yes, thank you, Madam Mayor. So… 503
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: As you said, there's the correction on the title of this… the agenda item,so uponconclusion ofthe hearing, staff recommend that theCity Council continue the item on July 7, if you're not adopting the budget tonight. 504
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For the upcoming 26-27. So with that, this item is a continuation from June 2nd, Council meeting,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: on June 2nd, public hearing, several discretionary items that was introduced as a placeholder, and the Budgets Committee met on June 8th, and those items was discussed, and they are public art mural for $10,000, proposed to be funded through the Art in Loop.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: an EIFD placeholder of $75,000, which would have potential impact to the general fund. There's road repairs identified as, priorities. 508
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The Council continued to deliberate tonight. There might be additional opportunity to reduce the expenditure based on new information that has come since June 2nd, including as recent as this weekend of 509
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: related to vacant position, whether, it will be suspended or put on hold, and with… withthat, I'm just gonnaconclude my brief, staff report presentation and bring it back to the Council. Can you remind me what… where the EIFD, will be? What section? Which…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Where will that expense be played? The IFD is not in your budget book, it's just from the June 2nd, it was just as a placeholder that should be included part of the budget, but it's not in your budget. No, I'm aware of that, but I just wondered if you had… okay, all right.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, thanks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, could you tell us a little bit more on what you just said, that there's a potential for a vacant position, or a position suspended? I hadn't heard of that. I don't… there…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There was an email that went to the council over the weekend. There are potential
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: suspension of the city… the assistant city manager position. Okay. There could be potential lower the city clerk position. There is… there might be a hybrid type of,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: hiring in the planning department. There's other services and supply that could be reduced from other departments that we are, the city manager is aggressively trying to identify and working with department heads to identify those expenses. So that, that's what, that's what I'm referring to. Thank you. 516
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead, Council. 517
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Madam Mayor. So, yes. 518
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There's been a lot of emails going on, most recently, and…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: sent this to us after our June 2nd meeting, providing a roadmap for expense reductions and potential revenue generation. And following up on Council Maurer, or Vice Mayor Maurer's questions about these vacant, positions, or retooling the clerk position, or whatever, I'm really interested in getting to the brass tacks of how to eliminate $810,000
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because the scenarios that I want to adopt, that we all had a chance to pitch to Bob Leland, that's how much money it's going to take for me 522
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to get to a yes vote in approving this budget for tonight, because I'm not in any hurry to get this budget passed. I'll roll it over as many times, but I'm not going to approve a budget where we're not close to resolving a deficit. 523
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: given our various scenarios of hotels, or, repayment of lower water funds, etc. My ultimate question is to Mary, so… 524
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for the required, clerk position, because that, I think, will get us a long ways to getting
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the $810,000 reduction. So that's my question to staff.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, as the email went out, we were looking at salary savings. The assistant city manager has been discussed, and we did discuss… 528
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We did decide to suspend that, so we would not be hiring. That was part of the reductions that we had discussed that would be included. 529
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We also discussed the re… the city clerk position, that job description in response to a member of the public. 530
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That job description and salary range will be coming back at the July 7th meeting. There is some still vetting that we have to do as far as hiring authority, so that will be coming back at that time. That will be coming in, at a reduced salary range prior,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And it is always our goal to bring people in at the bottom… at the step A.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That is what we strive to achieve. There have been some situations where someone has come in at Step B because they had higher qualifications, and we have hired at Step B before, but it is our goal to bring peopleon on that. But the job description, we have to get that revised. 533
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then that will be coming July 7th. There is a suspension of the, the assistant city manager right now at this time. 534
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: there's also the discussion of the, planning positions as well. I've reviewed that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: as much recently as this morning, and the goal is to hire an associate planner. Same thing, bringing on as entry level. We do have had 3 recruitments for planning directors. They have been unsuccessful. 536
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, it is my recommendation that, for right now, we will bring on a consultant, or continue with just the planning director consultant, assuming
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We haven't done theconditional offeryet… letter yet for the associate planner. I wanted to wait until this budget was done 538
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: hopefully tonight, or at least getting direction, but that will help to reducethat planning deficit byabout 130, but again, it depends on what the RFP comes back with for a planning director.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, those for staffingpositions right now are where I see additional funding of about $250,000 right now. 540
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Are you saying that? So, it does not bring it down.

The 800 doesn't reduce it, but it helps to reduce
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That $960 down by that amount right now, for those specific things.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Are you saying that's for City Clerk and the planner in addition to the AC? I just want to understand those numbers. I'm sorry. 543
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the numbers that you… the 200 plus K that you mentioned, that's including, what, city clerk savings and planner? I just want to understand… It's assistant city manager, city clerk, and the planning department. So, salarysavingsand benefits.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Between those would be reduced by about $250 to help bring that deficit down.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I see a question. I'm sorry, go ahead. So the position right now is a dual position, correct? We have… we are separating the positions.

When we brought the… when we brought the budget initially, we had discussed having two positions.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Right now, we are looking to suspend the Assistant City Manager position. We'll be bringing on a City Clerk once we revive the job description. It will come back as a lower salary rate.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We will be bringing on a full-time associate planner,which willgiveus,assuming,again,conditionaljob offersareaccepted and things like that, that will be bringing us an associate planner to be on board 40 hours a week. 548
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Where we have reduced numbers right now because we have a consultant in that position. We have a request for proposals out for planning director services.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because we've had a recruitment for the planning director has not been successful.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: those will come in for reduced hours, but we will still be under, and we'll be saving, for that department, about $130,000. So between both departments, the planning and the City Manager's department, and the city clerk's department, we'll be saving right now about $250. And again, that's assuming 551
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Not assuming any further reductions based upon what the RFP comes back. If they come back higher, that savings may be a little bit less. 552
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And may I ask, if you all don't mind me asking a question that's on top of that before we move to other questions? 553
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: in my discussions with, with Mr. Leland, he had suggested that if we had positions that have been, you know, there was a suggestion that if we had positions that were vacant for, you know, greater than 2 years, then we should consider suspending those as well. And are there other ones that have been 554
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, frozen for… in other departments that long as well. We have…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: One position in public works that's frozen? 556
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I believe we have one position in the police department that's resident officer.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm not aware of any others. So, we have two frozen positions right now.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And do you know what that cost would be on a married, with those two? To reinstate them? Well, I mean, are they… I just wondered what… what… what…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: just what numbers attached to them at all. I haven't… I need to look in here again, but… They're not in the budget. I didn't think so, but I… Yeah, no, they're not budgeted in the budget. They are frozen with no… so I can't remember. Yes, there's no salary allocated in either department for those two frozen positions. Okay, all right, I know that Councilmember Hinton had her hand up, and Vice Mayor, so whichever.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It feels a little freewheeling right now. I'd like to refer to the book and numbers and the date on the email so that we can follow along, since we have nothing on the screen here.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: with these… with these numbers that are being discussed. I… we're gonna get to, like, going page by page. I think that… it was my understanding, we were just discussing those
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: items that everybody brought forward, before, but is there anything else before we dive into this page by page? Is that what you're referring to? Can we… well, what email… because I get a lot of emails. What email specificallydidyou send over the weekend? What date and time? That'd be great, if I could refer to it. 563
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then, yeah, then I'd like to talk about these numbers in the budget. Okay, I think we all read them, but okay, go ahead. 564
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, I had the email open, it was yesterday at

1.16. Okay, so not… sorry, yeah, it was… no, I worked on it over the weekend to try to figure out how to do additional reductions. The email was sent to Council yesterday, June 15th, at

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just want to thank you for all the work that you've put into this, and your thought processes and all that, and 566
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: just, from the Budget Committee, as a member of the Budget Committee, my perspective on this is, so we started at a960 deficit. 567
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just wanted to remind the Council that we're coming in with a $1.2 million surplus from last year, and part of that surplus was $510 for roads that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: is carrying… being carried forward, so it looks like that's a deficit. So if you…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: With the reductions that, Our city manager is talking about
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 700 and… now we're at 710 deficit, but 510 ofthat is road work that was carried forward, which was part of the surplus, $1.2 million from last year. So that puts us at a $200,000 deficit for this year. 571
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, considering we had such a surplus last year, $1.2 million, I just think, for me, this budget makes sense. 572
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, and if I could speak just a little bit to the honoring of the Charles Schultz?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm not sure, this isn't really a question, so should I wait until later? Wait, maybe when we get to that… that piece, and just to keep it… keep it… Just keep it questions. Well, I wanted to start going through the book so that we can have, like, some kind of order here, and not just keep going. 574
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Ping-ponging around so that we can, like, make progress through all these.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, my other big question, is about what's going on with the library, and to get an answer directly from city staff about CIRA not covering any of it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because I read something in a weekly update email that Sarah is not paying for this at all. So I would like that publicly disclosed, because for me, that bears on where I'm going to end up with this 577
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It is budget itself. You're correct. The CIRA, which is our insurance agency, does not cover
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that… the mold in the li… in the… in our city building. Okay. I did reach out to their generalmanager andconfirm that. And can I just, for transparency, can I just do a recap?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for the public of what the items were that, I had reached out over the weekend, or not over the weekend, but yesterday. Sure. So just to do a quick recap, so there were salary savings, as what we just discussed. There was also, the hybrid for the planning director and the full-time associate planner.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I did review, departmental budgets for training, supplies, services, subscriptions. In my budget, I did reduce some of the conferences, some of the subscriptions, so, I was also able to save about $10,000 there as well. 581
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We are doing what's an aggressive cost recovery for our deposit accounts, so making sure we are tracking our consultant's time. So if someone brings in an application, a planning application, and they have, let's say, a $10,000 deposit account, to make surethat staff time is charged against that deposit account. So it's not impacting our general fund, the applicant is actually paying for that.

And we have been doing that, but we need to do better about doing that. 582
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So we are doing better about doing the deposit recovery.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We are… our medical premiums were huge this year, and that was not anything we had control over, but we did reach out to the bargaining groups, and one of them has responded back to us, SEIU, and they indicated they were willing to work with us as to see how we can move forward with plans, reviews, and things like that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm still continuing with expansion of shared resources. This is basically, like, if another city has an employee that we could utilize parttime in each city, then it would be a half cost versus full cost, or if we have employees that. 585
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, maybe out on leave or something like that, and we're short-staffed, we can have another city come in and fillin for us, so… 586
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We have done that in the past. 587
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So that'll help to reduce costs if we're in need of that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: one of the… we're reviewing our leases as well, to make sure, like, we were capturing costs for those. Those have been under… under review for the last few months. I know animal control services are for sheltering, not the control services itself, but the sheltering has been a big cost. 589
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: These are based on numbers, so based upon what the Humane Society is, they said 100 animals per year is their estimate. 590
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I checked with our police department, they are saying 60 animals per, Per their estimate per year.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We'll know more within the next few months if those numbers are accurate, and then we're going to look to reevaluate that contract in the next 6 months, but we will continue to work with them, because we need sheltering for our, you know, our animals. They originally did come in at $120,000, and we worked with them down to $90,000 for that. We are still continuing to work with them, and they're continuing to work with us.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So that is in the email, but basically, I just wanted to bring that out for transparency to the community, what we're doing. So that is where we're at with that, so thank you for indulging me in that. 593
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Perfect, thank you. 594
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And just one comment about process moving through this tonight. I'm interested in doing the assumptions, because going through this page by page, honestly, I'm not interested. As I said at the last council meeting, I trust my two colleagues with what best work they could do.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it putting together this budget book. But the presumptions that we went through last week, I'm interested in getting a thumbs up, thumbs down on where we are on these basic things, which is, one, are we repaying the $1 million water sewer loan?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then also, if we have to dip into our pension, at what level? Is it 1, 2, 3, or 4?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and also hotels. I mean, for those things, it's a nobrainer,becauseif mycolleaguesare…aregonna havedifferentviewpointson thosefour presumptions, then I would like to have a discussion about those. 598
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and use that as our time versus going page by page. I'm not interested in doing that. I will, obviously, but I'm not interested in going page by page.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, I want to keep it in order, and I do want to have… I know that I have a question for everyone. When we ended the meeting, everyone had given at that time just additional things they wanted to add, so I wanted to ask if anyone else had anything additional to add, because I do, so I want to give everyone else the opportunity.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Before I pipe up about what I'm… 601
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'd like to see added. Go ahead. 602
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm also curious about the impact of not increasing waterrates this year. That should mostly, affect the enterprise funds. 603
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, I think those are in a healthy space, but I'm not sure what that means to the general budget, and I'm not sure if I can offerthat up as something I can drag staff to lookat right now.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so you're asking… Are you a… Oh, sorry. 605
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I think the request was made to, consider deferring of the rate increases for the… for water or water and sewer. 606
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I guess… I guess look at both. 607
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And make sure that the enterprise funds are healthy. So, for water alone, it's about $11,000 per month, so that would be a loss to the enterprise fund if we didn't do that. And I'm not recommending not doing it, I'm just providingfacts. The regional, I don't know if I have that figure in front ofme really quick. 608
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I would only caution the sewer, because we pay to the regional, the sub-regional, so we have payments that we need to make to them. So, if the council was looking at consideration of not increasing the rates for the water, I would 609
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I would recommend the water only, because the sewer would potentially impact our sub-regional rates that we would need to pay to them.

Okay, so basically, I understand that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Not increasing them causes the loss, but this year it was okay? No, not increasing the water rate. So, like, for July, August, September, so… 611
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the increase is about $11,000 per month, so you would just not… if we just increase it, it would just be what we continually have right now, so we would need to just take out the $11,000 per month for water. Right, but we're not operating at a loss right now, correct?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't believe so. No, it would not. Right. Not for the enterprise funds. Okay, so the impact is just reducing the income by $11,000? Correct, if it's water only. Correct, right? Per month? Per month. 613
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So that would have to… that could be a discussion at the… but that… the question is how much would be monthly, correct? 614
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: we're in the discussion phase right now on what to add, so Councilmember Carter is requesting adding suspension of 615
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the water increases effective July. So what I'dlike to do, and I'm hoping everyone… what I'd like to do is go section by section as we get to those, then at that point, we'll… like that, when we get to the public, you know, to that section, then we'll say, these are the assumptions, and 616
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm just trying to figure out how to dothis. I'm just gonna say that what I'd like to see added to, and it's my understanding it needs to be added to the City Council budget as a set-aside, is
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: having attended the Sonoma County Mayor's and Council Members meeting this past week, there was a very large discussion about districts, and it was recommended to me, that came to me, a group. 618
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: very strongly that I needed to consider putting in the budget, the $50K that it would take, and be proactive with this, because Cloverdale received their letter, and now they're paying
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the fine, the 40-some thousand, I believe, for, you know, for receiving the letter. In addition, within 90 days, they have to create districts, and that's costing an additional $40,000 to $50,000, plus other fees. So, I personally, as a setaside, I'm not suggesting that we start districts right now, because we do have elections coming up.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But at least in this budget season for the next year, have $50K in there as a set-aside to start that process, maybe after the first of the year. So I just feel like it's my responsibility, after listening to everyone and then having these, you know, mayors come to me as a group and say.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you're one of the last ones, you're gonna get it. So, anyway, so that's where I'm at with that, so I just wanted to put that out there, and it's one of our first items, too, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's concerning to me, so we'll see where everyone's at with that, but I just wanted to put that in there, so that we're not surprised later, because the fees could be much higher, twice as much. 623
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If we're not proactive. So, all right, so the question I have for everyone, I… we have all these different competing ideas and things and how we should do this.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: when I do a budget, I personally like to just be very organized and go, not line by line, but, like, section by section, like, city council budget, are there any… any changes, any exceptions, whatever? If not, then let's move… thumbs up, let's move on, and then… and then go down the line like that. Is that… does that work for everyone? Imean, I want to be efficient withthis. I don't want us… 625
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, to do every line, like, as was suggesting, because that would take us… Three weeks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I mean, if that was a question, again, as I said at the last council meeting, I'm good with all of what the Budget Committee put forward.

Okay. So, even going section by section is not something that I'm interested in doing, but, you know, obviously, okay, so I'm just checking… I'm kind of partial to the four biggies that we've got up, but yeah, I mean, we'll have to move through the sections, kind of, sort, so… I believe we should. I mean, we have different pieces for 627
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: all these different ones. So, Imean, it's… we're gonna move it quickly. I mean, it's not gonna…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I thought we would go section by section, but now we have a council member who says we… for him, we need to make a bunch of cuts in the budget, so I'm not…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Are we gonna do that as we go through section by section? That's what I'm thinking, like, every section will address it. I hadn't previously received that email, just… just to let you know. I got it now, but I… this is the first time I read it, so, while I'm sitting on the dais, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just think it's important for all of us to be informed, and not everyone is agreeable to everything, so if we go section by section, we can either say what we support, what we want to… what we don't support, what we want to add, and, you know, and then it's clear for everyone. That's what I'm thinking.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, I came to this meeting thinking that we were going to go over the couple of things that were brought up at the last meeting, because that… we discussed it, we came, and we deferred it to this meeting, so I didn't bring my budget book.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, I never… we never said we weren't going to go over any of this, and that we were just doing that, so… Yeah, that was just my impression, is that we were going to go over… Because I'm not comfortable doing that. So, I would support what, Councilmember Zolman was suggesting, and not go line by line in the budget.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm not suggesting line by line, but section by section. I'm not comfortable with just talking about those four things and then being done with it. I understand you guys are on the Budget Committee, but not all of us can watch every video and be informed, and I think it's important for all of us to be informed. 636
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I understand, it's just a change from what I expected of… based on what we talked about. Well, we just brought that up because we all wanted to have a better understanding of what it was, and, like, what everyone was thinking, so that we could move through this, so… go ahead.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'd support going through section by section efficiently. I think it's transparent for the rest ofthe cityand everything like that, too, so I'm good. I mean, I know that… I know the budget, obviously. Yeah, and I don't want to belabor anything, but I feel like for transparency and everything else, I mean, we should be… 638
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, not just brushing it all through and four things we're gonna discuss and we're done.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But, if I can, not to beat a dead horse, but Councilmember Hinton brought up the fact that it's just like that, yeah, some of us are interested in making cuts, but if, in my mind, if we don't hit the top four of the scenarios that were discussed.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: like, some of us are gonna feel a real need to dig in and start looking for places to slash. Others are like, of your four assumptions, I don't agree with any of them.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I'm really not going to be keen on making slashes to individual sections. So, for me, I would like to get the four, like, basic Agenda Item Number 1
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assumptions we discussed at the last council meeting. One, again, whether we're going to repay the water
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Loan or not. Whether we're gonna have any reliance on any hotel.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: whether we're gonna have to dip into pension reserves, and if so, at what of those four options. And what was the… 644
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, well, whether we're going to have to repay the loan or not, because that, to me, gets to the alternative one that I discussed with Bob Leland, and he was like, if you go with what
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you are wanting to have happen, you're going to have to slash $810,000. In order to position your future councils Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to not have to deal withyour structural deficit that you dealt with when you came on the dais four years ago, which I wouldn't wish on any worse enemy.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to come on council and listen to an outgoing city manager andcityattorney say, you too need to declare this fiscal stateof emergency, because you're one step away from bankruptcy. I'm not… I'm not going to be part of that.

So, again.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We can discuss this, if not… So we already… fine, we're just continuing the budget until we get more concrete things from staff about potential cuts.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, it's my understanding, we already have three people who are going to agree that we're going to go section by section, so I want to know, do you all… I'm gonna just take a thumbs up, thumbs down here, since we can't seem to… to come to some resolution here. Do you… do we have enough, you know, where are we at with the… with discussing the four, or whatever? I just want to help, 651
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: clarify that, you know, to Councilmember Zolman, that we will address those, I think, through the sections when we come to people, or when we come to the water, or when we come to this. We will address those four things, so we could do it by sections. It's just gonna take a little bit of patience as we get through it. 652
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But, like, the resolving of the $1 million things will come with the enterprise, you know, section of the budget? 653
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: One more, and then I feel like we need to move on. Yeah, one of these things that are mentioned that I have a list of here, which is honoring Charles Schultz, not increasing water rates, the EIFD funding, moving to districts, but, the wastewater loan repay or not, the reliance on hotel money. 655
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and the using pension reserves, I mean, I guess it's going to rely on whoever wanted that discussed to bring it up wherever you are in the budget.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can you say the first twothatyou said? 657
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The first one? On the CharlesSchultz part. Okay. 658
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Not increasing the water rates, so are we just gonna rely on whoever…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: wants to advocate for this or that position to bring it up whenever you're in the section that you're in? That's what I was thinking, I… I mean… I mean, I think we should have staff help us follow along, so that when we're in the section, we know that that's the list, let's point it out. Right, but these, like, these things are not in the budget. The EIFD funding is not in the budget. But we've all agreed we're going to talk about it. Yeah, and usually staff will keep trackof this so we can figureout 660
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: along the way, where we're at with it. That's what we've done every year. I don't know why.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: something on the spreadsheet that says, plus, minus, plus, minus. So, Ana, are you prepared to keep track of all of that for us as we go through this? So, okay. I promise you, we're going to be efficient withthis. Does anyone have… on staff have a budget book I could borrow?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Are you ready?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Everyone's ready? 665
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Therewe go. All right, the first one I have on here is, city council budget. I already brought up that I wanted to set aside $50K for just a setaside for after, you know, in this budget for the districting. That is the one thing that I wanted to change in here. Is there anything else anyone has to add or subtract? 666
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can we ask questions about that? Yeah, yeah, that's what… You mentioned a fine, so I'm not familiar withcities being fined… Maybe I didn't use the right word. Didn't have money already set aside on that fact. And then, 667
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: having been a part of this discussion for, as long as I've been on the dais, because every city's gotten hit, except for us in Katahdi, we're the two smallest cities,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm… I'm just, and we also don't have a big, Latino population, which is also a key factor. I'm just very… And I brought all those things up, and I was told that I should… we're… our… I think our attorney can answer it, because he's dealing with Cloverdale. We're the mayor. So, there's two things. One. 669
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If you get the demand leather to transition. 670
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And decide not to fight it, which most cities don't, because it's not a winning… in most cases, it's not a winning position. You have to pay the attorney's fees for the attorney who submitted that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That is capped under the law. If you agree to transition, there's an incentive to agree to transition because the attorney's fees are capped.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: They're capped at $30,000 in 2017 money, which increased by inflation every year, so it's about $40,000 now. So Ithinkwhen the mayor referred to the fine, that's what she was referring to. In addition. 673
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In order to actually draw the districts, you're gonna need to hire a demographer, a professional demographer, to help you. And that's between $30,000 to $50,000.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Depending on, you know, how much you want. 675
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Staff to handle, sort of, outreach on theirown, versus them doing, you know, building website, things like that. 676
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, by… if you voluntarily do it, you avoid having to pay the attorney's fees. You would still have to pay for a demographer to assist you withdrawing districts.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, let me ask a couple questions about this, because I need to be educated to throw money against something that we haven't done or considered before. One question would be, as they mentioned in the Press Democrat article, that there's legislation
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: coming, possibly, for cities under 50,000, and I think that's…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: stalled out. May I comment on that? Do you know, if you want to comment on… It is dead. It's not actually accurate, accurate. And then number two, how many cities under 7,200 have been hit with district elections in California? I, I, I don't know that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: one. You know, they're getting small, 681
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But, you know, Cloverdale's under $10,000. 682
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I don't know of anyone under as small as 72.

And I just want to comment, as part of the GTLR committee with Cal Cities, that was under our purview, so so many people kept saying that, and I'm like, we discussed this to the nth degree last year, and it was determined by Cal Cities and the lobbyists and everyone else, there isn't a will amongst the
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the, legislators in Sacramento to actually create a law, because I pushed and pushed and pushed for less than 30,000 that we shouldn't, and there's just no will, so it is dead, so I don't know why they reported that, because it… there's nothing moving anywhere as far as legislation to protect any smaller cities, so… And I'll just say, it's dead, like, if you look on the legislative
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: website for the legislature, where you can look up bills that says, you know…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Dead is not the word, it's a technical thing. It does say dead. It does actually say in red, dead. I will say, there is no guarantee the city ever gets one. You know, our… the city's demographics are different than other cities. Who runs for councilisdifferent.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Even if it…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: were to get one, it could be some time, right? The last city in Sonoma County to get one before… Cloverdale was, I think. 688
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the city of Sonoma, which was about 18 months prior to that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So that's on one side. On the other side, you know. 690
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: most cities have gotten them. Just kind of cutting to the chase. So, so the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: set aside, maybe I should be asking the mayor this, would be…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to move forward with district elections on the risk that we would possibly get hit with this letter, and then have to pay the $30,000 in attorney fees. That's what you're asking for. Yeah, just to set aside, like, you know, for… to be proactive, because it's my understanding, you know, if we're proactive with this, and we actually start the process, once you start the process, and I… 693
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Correct me if I'm wrong. 694
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: there's, like, a trigger where then they can't come after you, and there's a time frame for that, so it was just a set-aside. I… I'm not advocating to do it right now with elections coming up, but I… that's what I was just thinking, like, between January.Thisfiscalyear,you'reat…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: asking for a set-aside to move towards district elections. Yeah, just tobe proactive, so… because we do have all these financial challenges, and I realize we can't all predict the future, but we're seeing right now where Cloverdale's having to deal with it, and within the next 90 days, figure it all out, and they're paying essentially twice as much money, so, you know, that's why Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I was just…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, I hadn't thought about this until we had this discussion at this, the mayor's and council members meeting, and all of us saw the meeting of the minds there, and that was the recommendation for us and for Katani, so… 698
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead. I'm just curious what the trigger is, like, who brings this about? Nobody knows.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: there's basically one law firm that sends all of these letters. They… they're… Represent voters within the city. 700
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The, the… Alleging that, at-large. 701
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Council elections that are conducted at large rather than by district violate the California Voting Rights Act.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the… The par to being successful at one of those lawsuits is very, very low.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm not aware of any city that has 704
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Prevailed in any lawsuit wherethey tried to fight it. 705
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This makes me feel very uncomfortable for this law firm that is…are they fishing forpeople tofind suits? 707
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Possibly.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm… I'm gonna go ahead and say that tonight I'm not gonna be in support of this, basically because I'm not in support 709
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: of doing things because we're fearful of a possible lawsuit that hasn't happened yet, and also it would be changing the way our city's voting happens,and whocan run foroffice.And I'mjustnotwillingtosupportthat. 710
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Inthisfiscal year, when we don't have to, when we're, you know, because…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: we have a hard time getting people, good people, to run for officeas it is. If we start drawing lines, it just… 712
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just can't support that, as a… philosophically. I just want to say, I mean, I'm not… philosophically, I agree with you, but we can't change the fact that we can't predict the future, and people get letters, and then Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you know, we may end up having to pay twice as much money, and because it is happening, Cloverdale's got it right now. I mean, I just keep… this just keeps coming up in allthe different committees I'm onand everything else. 714
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that's why, you know, when we were at this meeting, I mean.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it was just a very strong recommendation that Sebastopol and Katati needed to, you know, start being more proactive. So that's why I brought it here. I mean, if they send us the letter tomorrow, we have to do it regardless of what our philosophy is, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, but does this become an election issue? Meaning, do you… does this go on the ballot and people vote? No, it doesn't… so this would be just a decision that the City Council would make, that we're going to district, and how long does it take if we decided to district, like.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Could that be done before the election? Not before this one, is my understanding. No, I'm not the way it all works. And why is that? Because the process involves, five public… well, first of all. Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sonoma County needs the maps if you're going to do districts by the middle of June, so that deadline's already passed. Okay. But the process involves 5 public hearings. It's a lengthy process you have to go through. Okay, so we wouldn't be able to do it for this election anyway?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, okay. I'm a thumbs down on this. I'm a thumbs down, too. I was just trying to be proactive so that, you know, if we get slapped with it, you know, then I hope… then we'll all be paying double. Yeah. 720
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, who all… I guess… 721
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You're a thumbs down, you're a thumbs down, you're a thumbs down. Okay. Well, we'll see how this year pans out. Maybe I'm a fool, but… 722
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Let's all move on. Anything else to change on here?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, this is where… Mary… Mary, is this part of where you cut anything, or can you point out where your cuts are as well? There was nothing, cut in this, I just do want to say
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it's a set-aside, the council compensation, that will be coming back at, the next hearing, but there is a council compensation in here for that increased stipend that the council direction was to move forward on it, so there is a set-aside in here. That was…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just want to make sure that's transparent. Wait, which one, Mary? I'm sorry. It's on the account, the salaries. 727
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, yeah. So, yeah, I just, for transparency, I just want… you know, it's not been acted on yet, so that still is to come back, and… Sure. It's estimated right now on the July 7th meeting to come back.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, all right. Anything else? Any questions about it? Otherwise, we'll move on to the next section. 729
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, let me… sorry, just to the City Manager section. Oh, I'm sorry, can we just go back really quick to page 41, which is the City Council? I did want to say that we did talk to Main Street America, and we will be removing the $500 for the Main Street America dues.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So that will come out of this budget. 731
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Why is that?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I talked to the Main Street with the current ones, and they saidthat they… they don't have the staffing, they don't think it's worthwhile at this point, and we'll reconsider it next year. Got it. Okay. Alright. Perfect. 733
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, moving on to the City Manager, that would be yours.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I mean, you've already told us a few things, but is there anything…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So for this position, I'm sorry, yeah, for this budget,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I will be removing some of these subscriptions and some of the conferences.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the… and then the LEA conference will be removed as well, as well as the hotel.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the, mileage, travel, and things like that. So there will be funding removed from the ICMA, or from the LEA conference, and then the $1,500 for the LEA conference for the hotel and all that, that will be removed from this budget. And Ana, you're keeping track of all that, right?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay. I am, and I just need a, clarification, so… 742
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: In the city manager, where City Manager say hotel and airfare?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The $1,500, Mary? Correct. For the one conference. Okay, got it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm looking at all these lists of things that we have here. I don't see any… is there anything else, Mary?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No, it's okay. I just wondered if there was anything else from there. I promised efficiency, so… Not in the City Manager budget, no. Okay. All right, City Attorney?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: City Attorney?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hopefully, we get a decision on the ACLU litigation, and we're successful and don't have to spend any of that money. 749
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, okay, perfect. 750
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Fingers crossed. Alright, and then… we are at this… the ACM.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think you addressed that earlier, but do we need to address that for Anna, just to keep track?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No, we have the total figuresof the120. Okay, alright, I just want to make sure so that we're on the same page, so if there's nothing else that needs to come out of that. And then the city clerk. 753
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You have those estimates that we already talked about, so is there anything else in there? No, I just wanted to mention here as well that as part of that $10,050 earlier that I stated that came out of here, some of those are the dues of subscriptions, conference, and recruitment, so those costs would come out of that budget.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Question?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So how, how has the 26-27 proposed budget for the ACM City Clerk changed? I'm just looking at the total expense bottom line. What's the new number that you're proposing?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, the savings from the salary and benefits would be about $120, so reduce that from the…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the current, as well as the $5,000 for the recruitment on page 54 for the ACM.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Just suspended. I will also be taking out the subscriptions, for the IIMC and the ICMA. That is $555 on page 54. 760
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There's also two dues and subscriptions for the Society of Human,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Human Resources Management, as well as CalPELRA, those two will be coming out $400 and $600, so I don't have the exact cost, but I know when I totaled it up, it was $10,050 on top of the $120,000 for the savings and salary. 762
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Hinton has a question. 763
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: on it, if we… if you're keeping track, can we see it on the screen, like a spreadsheet, like we've had before? Good idea. 764
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sure. I just… that way, all these things can be… 765
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Put there, so we can see what's going on. 766
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That'd be a huge help.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Vice Mayor, you had something else, I think. Did you have your hand up? Yes, I did. Let's see, where was I? 768
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, if we're reducing the salaries and wages. 769
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: then wouldn't the benefits be also reduced? That does… that 120 includes both salaries and benefits. Okay, thank you. 770
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right. Do you need a moment, Ana? Hang on, I don't know where my Zoom… hold on. Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't have shared privilege. Let me ask.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I know when you're making these changes, are you highlighting them so later on you're able to see where all those changes are made? 774
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Let me just go from the top. For the City Council budget, there's a $500 reduction in the Main Street America. 776
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There's a reduction in League of California City for conference for the City Manager, plus the $600 for the registration. 777
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So that amount going from $614,996 to $612.896, 778
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, there's nothing… Reduction in… 780
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm sorry. So in the city manager, there's a 600 registration for the league? Yes. That was removed? Yes. And then the travel for that was removed as well. Yes, and then the,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There's nothing for attorney? 782
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hang on, can we state the city manager for a second? Yes, the CCMF dues was removed as well.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And what I was asking is, are you just highlighting those cells on the spreadsheet there, so that it's easy to identify if anyone has questions later? What was actually changed? They… they are in the self itself. 784
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Where is that?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't see any of them that are highlighted, like, yellow or something different.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Just makes it easier for… Okay. 787
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For visual purposes, for… 788
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Listen, y'all, I have a board of 32 people that I do this with, and…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If you don't highlight it and… Market, you'll never remember later.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I know it is a little small up here, but when you see the minus 500, that's the main street.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then when you go to the city manager, you see there's a $1,500 reduction for the League of California City for travel, and the $600 for the conference, and then the $400 for the subscription. 792
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's… I mean… So I'm gonna highlight the item that's being reduced.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, like, the actual items. What I'm talking about is, like, if you're taking something out, then highlight where you take it out from, so we know. Anyway,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sowe're… we finished city manager, we finished the attorney, right? And now we're on to your department, right? So, look, can you just clarify for the, assistant city manager, city clerk.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: $120,000 is salary and benefit fora reduction in suspending the ACM position in a
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: As well as the city clerk. As well as the city clerk lower level. Correct. Okay. And then $5,000 for the recruitment and reduction? 797
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Correct.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 400 and 600 in… Subscription? 799
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then there's 555. 800
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The dues and subscriptions. 801
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay. 215 and 240? Correct. Okay. 803
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, okay. Is it okay to move on? Yes. Okay, so… 804
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That leaves us at administrative services. 805
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So… Let's see… So, in admin services, we identify a $1,000 removal for the GFOA budget award.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hmm?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's… it's nice to have. It is, 809
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: An award recognizing the city through the government financing officers, that we apply for annually. 810
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And it costs us $1,000 to apply? 811
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I have a comment. Wow, never knew that. Okay, thought we got it for free, because we did a good job. Yeah, no, actually, I have a comment, because this was noted in one of the potential ways to eliminate it from our public commenter as part of the roadmap to expense reductions. 812
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's basically a pay-to-play. You pay, you get the award. It's like… I mean, not to be too condescending with it all, but it did… it… 813
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: does not make sense. If we're going to go through this painstakingly monitoring a dollar, a dollar, a dollar, let's just kind of move on, eliminate it, move on. Thanks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, so anything that is being subtracted from the last time, I just, you know, does anyone have anything? 815
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, alright.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, planning department. 817
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Would that be you, Mary? 818
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, so this is where we were discussing the hybrid. So, between, salaries and benefits, we would be saving about $130,000. Okay. So, I don't know how you want to do that between the savings, but there's $130,000 Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that was the only thing that, 820
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We were able to see for reduction in that department.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so, building… 823
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Excuse me. Sure. So this would be where the EIFD would be discussed, and this would be where any money toward a mural would be discussed.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Or honoring of Charles Schultz.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, the EID would… could go here. The Charles Schultz, is my understanding, was recommended as the Art in lieu. 826
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Which… which is… A different budget? What budget is it, then? The art… the art movie?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Or Art in lieu Fund? I don't have the account numberoffhand,yeah,that'sa totallydifferentone.Page136.Page130,okay.Okay. 828
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All right, so the EIFD would be in, under the planning, correct? Correct. Okay, and so someone has asked for an additional $75K? 829
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, that's up for discussion here if anyone has comments. Sure, I'll go ahead. Sure, I'll go ahead and start since I asked for it. We've had a subcommittee of EIFD, and although we kind of got a late start, we're interested in, continuing to pursue this.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We're asking for a placeholder, so it could also be with the vote of the council, we'll bring the full agenda item, not passed, necessarily, but so that's under consideration still, and there is a…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: active subcommittee. We'd like to go ahead and put it in as a placeholder in case the full council decides to move forward with it, the EIFD.

That is what it will cost to hire the company.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to continue to move forward and come up with initial mapping for City of Sebastopol.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to the two council members that are sitting on this active committee.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I feel like I can share, correct me if I'm wrong. 837
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: what's coming out of the Building the Commons, and their report is… actually, we just received one. We're going to have another report 838
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Actually, I guess we're having another report on July 7th, so the next time you'll see all this. We just had a full discussion, and the fact that some… there's got to be some pool of money from somewhere, and the only way it's going to happen is through a public partnership… a public-private partnership. 839
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and a consideration of what we're going to get from the county. We're not going to get from the county anything. We never get anything from the county. I mean, having served on countless boards, interacting with the county, we're never going to get anything unless we actively start working with them and leveraging and explaining why it's in their best interest to consider doing something to help with our library, with our many other institutions that we help subsidize. 840
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: all of the West County. EIFD is one thing, one way to actually sit down with Linda and her staff and seriously talk about what we're doing and what we're getting to help subsidize all of West County, and that's the reason why 841
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the EIFD is one thing, because otherwise, when you all see the report from the Building of the Commons at the next time we're here, you'll be like, they're hanging their hat on that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: well, then I'm for sure not going to renew them come November. Because if that's the only way they're going to come up with any money, is just through public-private partnerships, which we legally don't really know what the consequences are, then it's going to be a non-starter. So I feel like having spent time on the Building in the Commons.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I feel like we should really start actively exploring what we're going to get from the county through EIFD or any other which way, so I'm supportive. So now I have a question. What are we going to get from the county? Because they're, I mean, they've kind of moved on. I mean, have they committed to anything at this point?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because they… I know the… Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: someone was gonna ask for the money from them, and they didn't pony up this money, so what can we count on? So, let me be specific about what they have ponied up with.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, Linda matched us. She was the only supervisor to do so forour first EIFD study. No, I'm aware of that. I'm talking, like, right now. And then we went and discussed with her the possibility of starting again. If we go ahead and set this up, there's no reason
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for me to believe that we would not receive matching funds against future property taxes like they have done for the other districts, City of Santa Rosa, the rest of the 5th District. We kind of stalled it out because of the property, 848
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because of our sales tax. And until we got that passed, we did not want to be moving forward with the EIFD and making a bet on what could happen in the future. So, we stalled this out, not the county, and decided to pull ourselves out of the entire 5th district
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, FD, and move forward with our own, if that was what we were going to do. I just want to clarify what I was asking is, how much… 850
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: area are they actually going to allow in that? Because it's my understanding that they are already doingtheir own indifferent places, so how much area are they… do we… do you have any… have you had any discussions at all about that? So, we may not be able to increase the area outside of the city limits with the county. However, we might… there's a small chance that we might be able to put 851
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: participate in their EFID, but also, they're gonna give a match, like, 25% of what we would get
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is my understanding. Within… within what we… what… what property taxes we would claim for that EFID, the… the county would match. 853
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: One part.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Go ahead, and then I have another question. We had a big discussion about this at the last Budget Committee meeting, and I'd asked a lot of questions, and at that time.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I was told that the county isn't participating at all in the… so the… the model that we were presented last year, whenever this was in December, is not the same. So,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So… and I was also told that the goal of the EIFD is a bond, but traditionally, a bond is something you put before the voters. 857
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so… Is it possible that the EIFD 858
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: is gonna look like an end run around the voter's opinion, you know? And so I'm uncomfortable with that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, and… And not getting the county money assured makes me uncomfortable with it, too.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I have another question, if I can. I'll tag on chairs.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can I address those questions? Can I just ask mine real quick, and then you can…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Based on just having, like, going through all of these scenarios and having discussions with the experts, you know, one of the things that was said to me was, well, unless you… you know, you're not going to have any significant money in there.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for probably 20 years in order to use it for development around here. I mean, it's just the way it is here, and with our small space and the lack of development that actually ever happens here, so… 864
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just… and I hear talk about the commons and all that, and I'm, you know, I'm all for planning ahead. I mean, I just proposed something to plan ahead, but this just feels… I don't… is this planning ahead for some… I mean… Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm just trying to understand how this impacts, like, talking about the Commons now, when this is probably not something that'll be utilized for 20 years. Is it really a solution for what is being talked about? 866
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But, Councillor Han? 867
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll second it, yeah. To address what Councilmember Maurer said, I think there was
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Vice Mayor Mount. Vice Mayor. I think there was a little confusion, between the… what Phil and I heard when we met with our supervisor, Linda.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: what she said is she could not match us on this mapping process to start it up again like she did before. But that wasn't about matching the EIFD. So, like she… they've done for other districts. So to just clarify that, I think that that is… was…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: confusion. Again, we're asking for a placeholder so we could vet this out further. And you're correct, it's probably 20 years down the road, and there is a possibility of a bond, but you also don't have to bond against it, is my understanding. It's…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's… it's redevelopment funds built up slowly, like in a savings account, like we've been paying against our pensions, and with a match, which 872
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: we're… I'd rather have our money match than not match, so… I think we're just asking for the placeholder so we can bring it to full council once we vet it out more.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I have one more question to you, but, you know, I… the question I have, and I keep asking myself philosophically, is, is this cutting our nose off to spite ourselves? Imean, we're talkinghere, we have all thesemoneyissues, but yet we're going to give away any extra monies that we might be able to gain over the next several years? Imean, I'm just… and I understand… I mean, I've hearda lot of different things, I don't know. Personally, I just have a lot of reservations, which I have all the time, so I'm just gonna cut to the chase and say.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that I'm not supportive of this tonight for putting the money aside, so I don't know, Vice Mayor, if you want to go ahead. I'm just wanting a point of order here. Are we, asking questions, or are we stating… So, the 75 set aside, whether or not you want it in there or not? Yeah, that's what I'm kind of confused about, because we haven't taken public comment, or have we? Did we take it so we haven't, so… We're just talking the 75.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: discussion, you're not taking a final vote on anything until after we take public comment, but you can have thumbs up and… It's just thumbs up, thumbs down, as far as 75K status. Right, but then the public gets to comment, and then we'll take a final vote? Yeah, yeah, this is just about whetheror not we want to add that here, and this is one of those…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: items that came up last time, so… Okay, I have another comment about the bond, because…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the purpose of the EIFD is to get a bond. 878
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, and then… it sounds like the goal is for a commons building, But I have concerns that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the public… the Sonoma County is receiving tax money.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for library. The library receives a certain tax, and it just doesn't seem…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I mean, right, that the city should be funding a library when the county's already got a tax that they're receiving. 882
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And they should be helping us with the building. 883
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Not the city's responsibility. I want the library. I want to have a bigger library, but I think that the city shouldn't shoulder all of that responsibility. So that's a concern that I have. I would be willing… Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To kick the can a little farther down the road, just to get more information.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: but then reserve my vote for when we have more information, like from the county, etc, etc. So what we just need to do is thumbs up, thumbs down for the75K aside. But if I could just respond briefly, there's two different things, because the library, when you talk about the library, it is its own separate government agency.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It is not part of the county. 887
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, when we're talking about, like, what we're gonna do with the county, I think of with Linda.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it's like, the library is its own JPA-owned government agency, but
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you are correct, it's sitting on a ton of money, so that's the reason why. When I bring up, you know, the Building the Commons, I don't want it to necessarily be associated with the library, and I don't really necessarily want the Building in the Commons to be associated with the IFD. I'm just using it as an example of what could happen with the IFD money. I mean.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Or it doesn't have to, I just wanted to put out. And for me, it's all these concerns, all these concerns, and setting aside $75K when we're asking our city staff to cut this and cut that, and cut this and cut that, butyet we're willing to just throw $75 aside for something that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: may or may not be beneficial, and county… anyway, I… it just seems contradictory, but I'm just a thumbs down, so can we just, like, move on? So, I want to clarify my position, just… is that okay? 892
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, we're just gonna do a thumbs up, thumbs down for $75. So, I, wrote to Bob Leland, and I gave him my kind of worst-case scenario of, like, not paying the sewer loan back, and etc, etc. And to me, it looked like 893
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: especially if we had the hotel going, that the EIFD contribution was goingto be really small, and it wouldn't really affect the long term. That's what I looked into. So that's why I'm willing to…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: agree with this for now, but reserving my vote for actually until we get more information, which I think is going to be July 7th. 895
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I think we have 4 thumbs up, so we can just kind of move on from that. So,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Was there anything else on the list for planning? I just wanted to look. What is the hotel under?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This week.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What was… I put that on my list here, I'm just trying to remember.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Someone mentioned that as one of the items? There's no… it's not in this budget, because we don't include any TOT. I know, someone brought it up, I made a note of it, that's why it's on this list, so I just want to make sure that if there was anyone… anyone speak up now.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Allright, so I'm just markingthese things off the list as we go. So, EIFD… okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Moving along…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Let's see… building… we have fire. I don't think that's anything we need to address. Is that correct, Mary? 904
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, did I? I'm sorry. I… oh, I mentioned it earlier, and then… and then we got back on the other, so… anything with building? Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oh, okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, let's see… And then fire, no changes. 907
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then police department. 908
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We don't have the police department here, Chief, so are you?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is anyone… Okay, does anyone have any changes to that budget?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And we are at Public Works. 912
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oriana?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oops.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Good evening. We looked at the budget again. We did cut $100,000 over the course of the budget cycle with the Budget Committee, so it didn't identify any additional items since the last meeting. The one thing I did want to address from the public comment that was looking at places where we say we're replacing turf.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that we are actually pulling that turf out per the new water conservation laws. So that money is to replace the turf, in front of the community center and the police station, and we are looking at some grant funds for that. 916
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so, under all of that would be our streets, our parks, and landscape.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Parking lot maintenance, just looking at all of these different things, Idon't want to forget anything. Is there anythingelse in there that I'm…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then you've got all the Senior Center and all the different buildings, so we're pretty good. Any… any… did you have something, Councilmember Hand? Yeah, well, I… it talked about possibly going back and negotiating with our unions about
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: health benefits. I'm assumingif we were able to do that, that would impact everything, and canwe be specific about 920
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I recall that we pay family health for our employees. Is that still correct? So is this…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is this…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm just gonna be blunt. Is that… that seems unusual in today's private sector, at least. And is this what we're going back to negotiating, on, or what… what… what is our thoughts? And then, I assume that would be across the board with all employees.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We are not going back and renegotiating. We have a 3-year contract. What they had offered to dobecause of the premiums is to work with us to look at what other options are out there. So, we're not going back and renegotiating 924
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the premiums right now. They're… the SEIU has graciously worked, or not gr… theyhave offered to workwith us to look to see what else is out there and how we can work together on these premiums, but we're not in negotiations with them. We're just working together to see what we can do. Okay, so we have a 3-year contract, and then,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm just gonna bring it up. Do most cities, pay for employees' entire family health? Is that typical, or are we still… Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: doing that, because we always have. I'm just… I'm gonna ask the question, because it… I know how expensive health insurance is for us in our budget. I can't address what other cities do right now. We can get that information, but I do not have that for tonight.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I have a question about the community center budget. I just wanted to know, because this has come up in the past, and having been on that committee, do we… you know, we had talked about the roof, and the holes in it, and the holes all over the place, and the leaking and everything. 929
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: what have we budgeted in here to solve those issues? Are they already solved, or what are… I don't think they are, but can you help us to understand where we're making progress with that?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, you bet. So that was one of our capital improvement projects. So, the next item on the agenda is to look through our capital improvement program. So, okay. And Council did look at that list of repairs in January, and we're working with an engineer to get some estimates on what that's going to look like and accomplish those this year.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, and then the other question I have is about Ives. They inevitably always need…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: parts, pieces, whatever. I was trying to determine in here how much was actually set aside for that, because it seems almost every year we end up with some sort of
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: item that is expensive and costly for them and for us. You feel confident that
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Whatever you have in there is, 935
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for this year, so we did meet with, Ives, with the operational staff, and the board, and went through their list of things that theywould like to see at the pool, and so we budgeted for this year, they need some resurfacing of the pool.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And there's dry rot in one of the lockers, so those were their two most immediate concerns that we have in the capital overlay for the pool.

Okay. The other thing that's in there is to replace one of the solar cells that do the… 937
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to change the salt into chlorine. So that's just an item that they fail every couple of years. But we will meet with them again as we go into next year's cycle to see what projects they want in that budget. We're working with them. I just asked because it's always become an issue somewhere along the line. Okay, thank you. Does anyone else have any?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: questions about any of that? Otherwise, we'll be moving on to Section D, according to our books.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Non-departmental budget expenditures. Let's see, Mary, is there anything else? And Dee, I don't think there should be. 940
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, alright, so let me look here to see where we're at.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: All these… Just looking to see where… 942
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If any of these items that people have on the list here fall into any of these areas?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So the… the… Councilmember Zolman had mentioned wanting to discuss
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Whether or not to take money from the… 945
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Not from the trust, but to take money for, 946
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the pension obligations, those are in each… 947
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: section of the budget. You'll see a little UAL… So we can discuss that now. So that it's not within just one budget, it's each department, because there's employees in each department. Well, thank you for bringing that up, and that's the reason why my preference would have been to go through the four presumptions that we were asked to make, based upon all the slew of reports that we got. Well, we're here now, and we can do it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Well, I get it, but I mean, for me, it's just like, because it's already 830, it's like, it's a thumbs up, thumbs down. Clearly, we're not going to be able to eliminate enough expenses, $810,000. And Mary has indicated, like, $250,000, that's a drop in the bucket. So, with also
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: other presumptions that I'm making for my scenario that I work with Bob Leland on is, like, that also encompasses not paying the water sewer back.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I'm not unrealistic. That means we're gonna have to dip into the pension part. We're just gonna have to, I mean, for my estimation, regretfully. So, is it this time that we discuss that pension dip in, or is it not? I don't know, I'm…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: kind of like with themayors, I'm deferring to staff. Hopefully, I'm explaining the fact that I'm not going to be okay with passing a budget with $900,000, knowing the fact that we're not going to get insurance to pay for the library, and 952
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: other basic things that just keep exploding around the city. Water, sewer pipes, employee expenses going through the roof. If we don't slash a significant amount, myvote's gonna be no.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Tonight, for sure. And if we continue and get more definitive numbers from staff about what they can realistically reduce, then maybe it could happen at that time. But right now, I'm not gonna just be passing a budget that, just right now.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Approves $900,000 deficit. 955
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So you want to discuss the dipping into the pension, and do we have the slide? Honestly, I don't see any way forward. So I suggest that we look at this mid-year.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And see if we need to dip into the pension or not.

At this point, I don't see a need to do it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But maybe at mid-year, we might want to do that, because I would prefer, if we don't need it, to leave it there. And I'm going to tell you the background on this, is I looked at the last 6 years of budgets, and I looked at what was the adopted budget,and then whatwasthefinalend result,whatwasthefinalbudget,and 958
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Mostly, we… we were over-predicted… we overpredicted by about a million dollars. 959
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And one year, we overpredicted by $3 million, and one year, I think it was under
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think it was under by about $300,000. 961
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: maybe it was over, sorry, I don't have my numbers with me. But mostly, these are very conservatively predicted, budgets, and so I think Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: At this point, I think we should wait till mid-year. 963
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Hinton? Well, can I also just address the reserve level? Because
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: we're at a reserve level estimated at 25.8, unless I'm reading something wrong, and we've gone down
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to 20, you know, our ideal is between 15 and 20, I think?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is that… what's our… yeah, policy. 15 to 20. So, we've got, with this budget, a reserve of 25.8,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: tonight, I'm just wondering… 969
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I know that maybe we're kicking the can a little bit down the road, but it seems like our reserve budget is over what our policy is, so I'm just wondering why the urgency at this moment in time also… I'd like to hear more about that. 970
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Are you asking… er, I'm sorry. 971
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I would just like to address the Councilmember's concerns just a little bit. This year, we're gonna be, what, $1 million better than we expected, or something thereof? And that's going into our general fund, into our savings account, and a large portion of what we've
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: gotten this budget is going towards real projects, roads, things like that. These can be one-time events, and if we did not want to Agenda Item Number 1
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: by policy, do so much work on the roads, we can wind these back and not have that structural deficit. So, in a lot of ways, we may not have to dip into the pension fund, which actually
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: makes money when it's in the stock market. We can, make money with it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, you know, maybe next year, if we're facing the same situation, wehave a different policy towards roads. 976
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To me, I'm thrilled not to dip into pension. As I said at the last meeting, it's just like, I don't want to pay for the past mistakes of what we were educated on by council members.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't want to have that expense be on the back of pensioners, so I'm thrilled. It seems like it's a majority of not touching pensions. So let's just keep rolling through this and seeing where we're at at the end of the day.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, anyone else? Well, would this be the place for a discussion on reliance on the hotel?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because that was brought up as one of the issues? Yeah, that's why I brought up hotels earlier. Yeah, I would love to discuss that, too, because that was part of my scenario, too. I'm 110,000% not wanting to bank on any money from anyone. Barney from Hotel Piazza, it's an absolute hard pass for me. 981
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: A, I agree with you, and then B, I think it's very important that we consider investment in our city to have, like, a return on investment, so that we're increasing the top line. We can go through these budgets and always try to whittle it down, whittle it down, whittle it down.We're about staffed where maybe we're… 982
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: optimally. And what we really need to do is put money into things that increase the,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't want to say profits, but the taxable income that the revenue-generating things that the city has.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Alright, so we're kind of, like, bouncing here like ping pong balls now. So, I brought up the hotel earlier, and no one said anything, but now we want to discuss it, so I just want to, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But yeah, we can't count on ourselves. So, that's the main question here, right? Whether or not we want to have… count on that, or do you… I didn't… I was gonna say, I didn't think there was any hotel in there, so I'm trying to understand…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Right.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Preferred.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay. Vice Mayor? So, I'm looking at the general fund forecast on page 181 of the book, and it says that fiscalyear27 isprojected to be a deficit of
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 16583, and that's based on a proposed budget.

That's not the actual budget. And so, it's possible that 991
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If we're basing our projections on this year's proposed budget, and it's a million over, like it was last year, and like it was three or so more in the three years
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Of the six years, yeah, I, I just… 993
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think we need to raise more revenue. I know we need to raise more revenue, but I'm not gonna…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: These are… these… 995
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: projections are just that. They're projections, and… and I'm not gonna base my decisions based on that, 996
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Knowing that's… but knowing we still need to raise revenue, but…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hope that makes… I hope that makes sense.

Okay. Well, that… that actually is not my understanding, because when Bob was here, I said from that same public commenter.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: who put together this roadmap to expense reductions. People know who he is. He frequently comments here. He reviewed your budget tape. He's the one that sent that out, saying the fact that currently you're burning through $1.67…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: million dollars a year over your projected revenue.

So when I pushed him on that at the last meeting, I said, based upon where we're sitting here, the emails are now… first, it's 1.4,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And now, all of a sudden, you're saying it's 1.3, and hegoes,well,Icanexplain thedifference.It'sbecauseof youranimalservices. 1001
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I'm relying on him, because we're all biased here.Weallhaveourdegreeof understanding,and staffarebiased becauseof protection of jobs, the whole nine yards. For us, if we're going to pay for consultants who we get slammed on each time for paying too much.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Why are we not listening to Bob Leland saying the fact that you're anticipated of burning through $1.3 million over your projected revenue, and why are we not concerned about that? So again, I'm not going to beat a dead horse, but I'm not going to pass a… I'm not going to vote to pass a budget. 1003
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That authorizes, like, a deficit of $900,000, just because we happen to, this year, look pretty.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because we saved money because we didn't fill a city manager's position. I mean, none of this makes any sense to me. 1005
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: again, I'll say it's mostly roads, and I disagree with the commenter. I will, you know, go, go down saying, like, you know, we're putting a whole lot of money into roads.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If we come to the place that we, you know, really are experiencing that structural deficit, we're not increasing the abilityof this town to raise new business interests and have our storefronts full, then we should start thinking about lifedifferently.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But until then, we need to actually, you know, garden this city, and make sure that people want to be here, and want to spend money, and want to start businesses here.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I don't want to give a give in this hate, but I've been sitting on here for three and a half years, and there's been talk about, like, we need to Agenda Item Number 1
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increase revenue, we need to support the Chamber, we need to support this. Nothing has come from that.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I'm sorry, regardless… for me, I feel protective of the next council, whether I'm on it or not. Sure. I do not want them coming in, operating under a declared stateof fiscal emergency, which, by the way, we all aresitting under, because a lot of us believe there is a structuraldeficit. Well, the only way to kill it is to, like, take the roads off.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That'swhere the $600,000… Now let's fight words, because I'm the one who fought for that policy. So, we'll go down fighting for that. And we can do it with… People pay taxes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to have roads and water and sewer, so I'm… I'll start fighting onthat. Yeah, so I don't want to take it away. Well, although… so we, approved 40% of the policy to go towards roads, but what I didn't realize… What is infrastructure, not just… What I didn't realize is that we have certain dedicated funds 1012
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: where money comes in for the improvement of roads. And I think this year, it was not only the 40% from the Measure U, but it was about $300,000 additional that went to roads, and that'll be part of the CIP. So we could go back and look at
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What are the income from the funds? 1014
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: and then do 40% of the Measure U, 1015
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It's hard to explain this. So you'd say, what is the number that the 40% is equals, then you minus the other funds. That wasn't the agreement in this policy. It'll become an election issue, for sure, because I fought for that, and I voted for that tax, only because everybody agreed to the 40% and where things were at, so… Right, but we'd still be putting 40% of the… No, but you want to take it out, you want to rob Peter to pay Paul.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No, we have other funds that are giving money to… And I knew that when we went into arguing… when I went in arguing for this 40%. I promised that when we talked about this, if anyone renege on that policy, I will come out publicly fighting everyone about that. So I'm just saying, be prepared. 1017
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just feel very strongly about people deserve to have roads that don't look like cow paths.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So the piece on the table was the reliance on the hotel, and I want to support the hotels. So, whether we rely on them for forecasts, you know, I don't…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't think we can until there's, you know, ground being broken. But as a Budget Committee member, this year we are planning to look at how we can raise revenue. We've already discussed this, it'll be planned for September, and we're also going to be looking at, the credit card… the credit card fees. 1020
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that'll hopefully, come back to Council at some point.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, can I ask, Mary, can I ask you a question? So, this discussion about the hotel and the future projections, do you need us to… I mean, what…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I know it is, I'm just asking you, do we need to be doing any… I mean, are we… I just want to keep this moving, because we all have our, you know, thoughts about all this stuff, so I'm just asking you directly, I mean. 1023
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: do we need to have a thumbs up and thumbs down on that, as far as, like, the overall projections? Because that was part of something that I think that all of us discussed with, Mr. Leland when we did this. So, Steven… I mean, I'm sorry, Councilmember Zollman, you, you, that was one of the items, I think, that you brought up, so are we…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Are you asking for us to direct staff to reduce the reliance on that for, for the future projections in this, and that, you know, what we're putting out?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, with this budget. We're asking for that.

I'm just… that's what I'm asking. I just want to, like, move forward with something, understand. As far as making a direction, and the fact that all for future forecasting, that I'm not interested in seeing any graphs with a hotel on it. I'm done with that option. Well, my opinion is these are scenarios, and this is a tool to help guide our 1026
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: individual thoughts about how to forecast. So, like, you.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Do not have to accept that there's the reality of the, hotels.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then, you know, each council member has the opportunity to see the possibilities or not.And that's what a financial analyst usually does, is they say, like, hey, if you want to, you know, include this in your thoughts. 1029
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: here's what it looks like. And if you think that the probability of having a hotel is quite low, you remove that, and you look at the scenario where that's not included. I think that's what we all did with Mr. Leland. Correct. But the question still stands here, as a council, do we…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: have consensus or not, and I want you to go ahead and tell me, I'm just trying to understand, I want to move forward. As you know, it's not in the budget. There's a general fund forecast on page 181. I think the question is, and it starts showing TOT, and it ramps up in fiscal year, I think. 1031
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 29. And so, the question is from the Council, thumbs up or thumbs down, do you want this adjusted, this chart, to be adjusted so it takes out…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anything associated with those hotels. 1033
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it would not change anything about the budget, because there's no money in it for this year about the hotels. So the thumbs up is if you want the numbers of the forecast adjusted.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Correct. Thumbs up would be to remove the hotels, thumbs down would be to keep them as is.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, everyone? Is anyone? 1036
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Hinton, you look like you want to say something. Why can't we have all three?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, please, to help us move forward. So, can we reevaluate this in 6 months? And the reason I say that is because we have an application in from the hotel for review of TOT. The applicant stated it in a previous meeting, and he is bringing that forward.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I think that decision, when that comes forward, will be key whether or not these charts will… the assumptions will change at that point.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I would recommend, for now, leaving this in.

We will bring the 5-year forecast back, and I think once we have some better info… well, some more determinate information after we look at the amendment to the development agreement, that will be coming to the Planning Commission and the City Council on the… from the hotel developer.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay,and I'm fine with that. Councilmember Hinton, you had…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, well, I just wanted to clarify, so it jumps up in 29. Is that when the first
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is that when… when were we starting to add? Because you've got it all on one line, the TOT.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: where were we starting to add new hotels? Just to clarify here. I believe 28, and Ani can correct me if I'm wrong, I believe 28 had a partial, but we expected in 29 to have it full, is that correct?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 29 has a partial, sorry, 29 has a partial, 30 has the full.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: A full year. Okay, so that's the partial… 1046
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then that's the full, okay. And then, I think the person that wrote us, if I'm looking at the right email, also talked about Healdsburg's at 14%, TOT, we're at 12%. What if we raise that 2%?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: right now.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: what would that involve? Can I just ask that question? It's a tax, so it requires voter approval. Okay, so we'd have to put it on… on the ballot.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the cheapest time to put that on the ballot is when a council race is happening, right? Yeah, in November, I guess. 1051
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Those are my questions. Okay.

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