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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Safeway, this is a real problem in this area. I don't know how many years ago, a woman was sexually assaulted in this same area, you know? A camera. A camera needs to be replaced. I mean, Safeway, how many people go in there? How much money are they making off of us, right? They can't put a camera? 1216
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We talked to the then, manager at the time, and he said, oh, it won't make a difference, we have a camera in front, it's not gonna make a difference. You know, they put up some signs lately, behind the back, saying no loitering, and the kids are loitering behind the signs. So, I think what we need is a camera from Safeway, and…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What's going on with the school here? I mean, this has been an ongoing problem with racism at the school.

I mean, we've heard from a lot of students there about what's been going on. So again, just, I think with the outrage, we need to have a sense of urgency. Thank you. Thank you for your public comment. Next, I'll go out to Zoom. Woody, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: Yes, I can.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, can you see the timer? 1220
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: Yes, I can.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Great, go ahead, please. 1222
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: Good evening, everybody. Woody Hastings here. First, I need to say that I am not speaking as a representative of the Climate Center. I know that the feature to rename yourself in Zoom here has been disabled, so I'm unable to take that off there. So just speaking for myself tonight.
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: And of course, this is all super disturbing, and I, you know, I read in the Seb Times about how 1224
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: the family felt that the community hadn't really stepped up, but, you know, I'm just… so I'm really just chiming in to add my voice to those standing in solidarity, that this is just…
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: unacceptable in our community, and I, you know, I think the city should approach this with, you know, with a restorative justice approach.
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: You know, these are… these are misguided youth, and I think they need some help.
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: they need some education. And, you know, in my work, I work with organizations all around the state that are 1228
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: That are struggling with, environmental racism and other forms of racism, and, you know, this… what's happened here is… in a way, it's not…
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: It's a manifestation of something that's very prevalent and re-emerging
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: in our society because of the dynamics at the federal, at the national level. And so, you know, it's something that
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: it's not a kind of a flash-in-the-pan unique thing. This is something that needs to be sort of dealt with. 1232
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: Collectively, as a community. 1233
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: And in a thoughtful and careful way, and we don't want to criminalize people, we don't want to… 1234
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Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: lay a heavy hand, so anyway, just wanted to chime in with support for that family. Thank you. 1235
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Woody, for your public comment. I will come back into chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Good evening.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'd like to start by clearly stating that I stand in complete solidarity and sympathy with the people who were insulted, hurt, victimized, even by the hateful and ignorant 1238
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: racist graffiti and taunts from a while back. That is completely unacceptable, and it is not in the character of our city. We strive to be a city that cares about people, all people, and it is good that we come together to restate this principle whenever incidents occur that undermine it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The youth who are responsible for causing this serious hurt should most definitely be held accountable for their actions, but I do not believe that juvenile detention is the answer. Our prison system has long ago abandoned the idea of being a place where people are reformed. It is instead a place of punitive control.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: We should look instead to restorative justice, as the City Council has suggested. This is a problem of society and culture. There is not a great legislative answer to a problem of racist indoctrination.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I would not support a problematic city graffiti abatement ordinance. I do, however, wonder if we can ask Enley High School if they would be willing to teach classes on social media literacy and critical thinking.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Our entire country is in the throes of a fascist revival, and the influencers and provocateurs are pushing this content into the algorithms that are a modern young person's constant companion.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For instance, just this last Saturday, the Kia Center in Orlando, Florida, which used around 20,000 people, had a mixed martial arts.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: fight, including a known neo-Nazi who called himself the Gypsy Crusader.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: After winning the fight, he was seen giving the Nazi salute. Some of his fans in the stadium unfurled a Nazi flag, and many in the audience also gave the Nazi salute. 1246
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This has not been in the mainstream news. Facebook, Instagram, and X all have links to it, though. And I am just using this as an example for why social media literacy should be taught young in today's world.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Our little bubble of peace here in Sebastopol is not impervious to algorithmic societal rot, and the antidote to this poison is community, not the police, and Sebastopol has community in abundance.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment.

Next, I'll go out to Zoom. Kyle, can you unmute yourself, please? 1249
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Kyle Falbo: I can.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Can you see the timer? 1251
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Kyle Falbo: No, you can let me know.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, go ahead, please. 1253
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Kyle Falbo: I support a restorative approach to the reported racial harassment and graffiti near Safeway, but only if restorative truly means a community process outside the criminal legal system. The staff report describes that possibility, but it does not yet establish the necessary protections. The local organizations mentioned in the report have experience working with probation, courts, police, and schools. That experience may be valuable, but merely hiring a nonprofit 1254
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Kyle Falbo: does not create an independent process. Before authorizing a program, counsel should require a written firewall.
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Kyle Falbo: Who would refer participants? Would police reports or names be given to the facilitator? Could anything said during a restorative meeting be disclosed to police, probation, prosecutors, or school disciplinary officials? Could withholding or failing to complete the process result in prosecution or discipline? Who would keep the records, and for how long?
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Kyle Falbo: More importantly, participation by the harmed child and family must be genuinely voluntary. They should never have to meet directly with the people responsible, recount their experience for someone else's benefit, or accept an apology as the price of receiving community support. City attorney has already warned that having police decide who enters the program, whether participation was successful, and whether a case should then be transferred to prosecution would create legal and procedural concerns.
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Kyle Falbo: That would also mean the process was not truly independent of law enforcement. So my central question is this. If Council intends to be a community process outside of the criminal legal system. 1258
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Kyle Falbo: Will the city put that independence in writing by prohibiting information sharing with police, probation, prosecutors, and school discipline, except for narrowly defined legal or immediate safety obligations?
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Kyle Falbo: Please establish these protections before selecting a provider or asking affected families to participate.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Kyle, for your public comment. I will come back into chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Good morning, Roth, and 1262
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I live in… on Stitch Lane in Sebastopol. I've lived in Sonoma County for over 40 years, and I left for a while, and I'm back, and I've been here for the last year. So, 1263
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anyway, my comment is, 10 years ago, a family came to the Human Rights Commission and spoke about their experience for their son at Annalee.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The young… the young boy spoke, the parents spoke, and it was an understatement of how heartbreaking it was to hear this family
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I fast forward to 2026, and here we are dealing with the racism in Annalee.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Now, it has been some time since, my six kids went to school, right? They're all grown up now. 1267
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, but this problem continues, and it's been going on And rears its ugly head.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for 40 years, because somebody I know who's 40,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: knew about this at Annalee 40 years ago, so it's not new to you or me, okay? The problem with Annelie existed, okay, long ago. I have no doubt that NLA officials have probably tried
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To stem the tide, but the current political climate, we have leaders who want to represent our communities in an inclusive way.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I mean, where do our kids… 1272
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Often get their moral compass from. 1273
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But from their elders. 1274
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, okay, my question today now is what, if anything, is being done? You spoke about it briefly tonight. You have about 15 seconds. I know it's a rumor, but I want to know if it's true that Emily and Safeway and the police are really taking this seriously. They're not taking this seriously, it seems like. 1275
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I want to know how long the culprit is expected to, to be expelled from school. Have they been expelled from school? Ma'am, that's 2 minutes. What? I'm done? Yeah, that's 2 minutes for public comment. Okay, I just want to say that I thought there was zero tolerance at Annalee, and I don't think there is.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Thank you for your public comment. Next, I'll go out to Zoom. Rob, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Rob: Yeah, thank you.
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Rob: I can't see your timer, but that's okay, it should be quick. I guess I… what I wanted to say is that
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Rob: what we're talking about now is really round two of this. Someone brought it up earlier that we did have some issues at Brookhaven with racism, and it was actually quite a big issue.
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Rob: it hit the newspaper two times in the PD, and two times in the, in the, the Sebastopol Times. And…
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Rob: it kind of died down. It came to the city council, and it also kind of died down. Now it's back up again, and I think some of the same people are speaking about how it's
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Rob: back again. They never really left.
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Rob: One thing that we advocated before, and maybe now is necessary too, is for,
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Rob: more complete communication. We wanted the school administration to engage with us as parents and citizens to be able to be involved in… in building a different way of thinking for the… for the
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Rob: students, that they were reluctant that didn't happen. It sounds like city council or city, representatives are meeting with school board officials or, or principals, and
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Rob: you know, like, I had no idea that those meetings were going on, so, that kind of…
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Rob: like, communication with the citizenship of, sort of, the citizens of Sebastopol in a broad way that says, these are the things that are happening, these are the talks that have been happening, this is what's going on, instead of it coming up and then disappearing, you know, when it's not the emergency again.
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Rob: Thank you.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Rob, for your public comment. Next, I'll come back in the chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hi, my name is Christy Boblett, and I am a parent of two Black children who have been raised in Sebastopol, ages 16 and 19.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I will start by saying that I did not send either of my children to Annalee because of the long history of issues with racism at Annalee, including lost, civil, you know, rights cases
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that were brought, the people who won against Anna Leave are not handling racist issues well. And the fact that my daughter was sitting in a basketball game watching and heard people making monkey noises at the players a couple of years ago, which solidified our decision.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Just being in this community with my two children, there's been wonderful things, but there's also an underlying system, an issue of racism in this community. 1294
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And building on what the last person just said, we just saw in this room that there's not a very coherent plan or communication between all the different agencies and leaders who are helping to protect the safety of our community. We need to have the police chief aware of what happened at Brookhaven. We need to have other community council members aware of what's happening in all these different areas, and what's happening to the families who live here, and centering those voices.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This community needs to become more comfortable with having uncomfortable conversations about race on a regular basis, and having people who are trained to have those conversations, talking to our schools, talking to our community leaders and our businesses, so that we can actually continue an active conversation about how we can actively work against racism. 1296
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And not just sit in our privilege here in this community.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your time, and I hope that we can actually continue this conversation moving forward, and have better transparency and coherence in our community to actually do something about this. Thank you so much.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment.

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Margaret/Gary: Yes. Hi, my name. Can you hear me?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sorry, can you see the timer? 1301
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Margaret/Gary: Yes, I can.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, go ahead, please. 1303
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Margaret/Gary: Hello, good to be at this meeting. My name is Margaret Howe. I've been a, lived in downtown Sebastopol for 20 years. 1304
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Margaret/Gary: I know that we call ourselves Peacetown, and I'm aware that this name alone cannot ensure a peaceful life for all. It's aspirational.
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Margaret/Gary: As we've said tonight, so many people have said, we can't turn away from these facts. The latest action of some Annalise students behind the Safeway, these horrific acts, reminds us that addressing Agenda Item Number 1
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racist, discriminatory, and hateful action, it's an ongoing process. It's never a one and done.
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Margaret/Gary: So as a community, we're being called to address the actions of some of the students at our local schools.
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Margaret/Gary: what's the answer? I'm not sure. There's great ideas passed around here tonight, but I think if we get together, we can figure it out.
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Margaret/Gary: And I'm asking this… the city to take leadership and convene regular meetings with Safeway, Annalee, Parkside, Brookhaven, the charter school, the,
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Margaret/Gary: The other, the other Waldorf School Park, what's it called?
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Margaret/Gary: To discuss what steps the school and businesses are taking and can take to create a safe place for all students.
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Margaret/Gary: Our kids need our leadership to help them navigate this world where racism and discrimination continue to be baked into our country's policies. And even the president says horrific, insulting comments, hateful comments regularly. How are our kids supposed to act differently? We have to teach them.
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Margaret/Gary: So let's put… I really appreciate that y'all passed that resolution that was named earlier, but let's put some teeth in it and come up with a plan to make Sebastopol more like a town of peace and equality. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Margaret, for your public comment. I will come back into chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hi, I'm Susan Lamont. I do not live in Sebastopol, but my name is on the peace wall, so…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I know lots of people in Sebastopol, and they've been talking about this to me. And I was, driving this morning and listening to KPFA, and there was an attorney on there who was talking about ending family court.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And talking about the harms that are done to young people and children through,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: extreme legal proceedings that have real serious consequences for children. And,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: she has written a book, and, you know, I can give you the… her name and her organization, but, 1320
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: other ways to handle this, then probably most of them are restorative justice. There's also a book that I read a number of years ago by a woman who runs an organization on the East Coast.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And it explains restorative justice, so… and how successful their studies say it is, and all the things, the ways in which it has helped people, because 1322
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, expelling a child, or suspending a child.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Or getting them involved in the legal system.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Probably sends them on the wrong path, not on the right path.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But restorative justice programs vary a great deal.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I know someone who worked with the restorative justice system in Santa Rosa who quit because he said it was so weak. And then a teacher in Petaluma invited me to sit in on a 1327
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: student restorative justice meeting, where they couldn't see me and I couldn't see them, and… Susan, you have about 15 seconds. Okay, I was… I was appalled it was so feeble.

So…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it… I believe in restorative justice, but you really need to study the programs to look for one that's gonna be good, because some of them are not.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment.

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Sarah O'Brien: Hi, my name's Sarah, and I'm one of the residents, on Pitt Avenue, who reported the racist graffiti, to the police, and I wanted to start by saying thank you to everyone in the community that's reached out and
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Sarah O'Brien: shown a lot of support for us. We've had a group of moms that hang out, a lot of chalk and artwork that have been there to help make these kids uncomfortable. But that being said, I mean, just today, 15 of them were here, and 2 of them being those boys that were involved in that incident.
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Sarah O'Brien: I feel like Safeway should have some kind of restriction from allowing them on the property a restraining order, from the back of the property. I… I don't know, and we've requested the fence. That obviously got shut down.
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Sarah O'Brien: But aside from the graffiti abatement, maybe a special clause in there that when it is hate graffiti, that it gets taken down, Agenda Item Number 1
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Sarah O'Brien: Painful to look at.
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Sarah O'Brien: But yeah, I mean, I just hope that everybody can kind of come together with a plan, and I do think Safeway should be held more accountable for this, and I do think, you know, this does need to be addressed in the schools. It's, you know, obviously a problem. 1336
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Sarah O'Brien: Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Sarah, for your public comment. Next, I will come back into chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Good evening. My name is Dena Bliss, and I live in Sebastopol and have lived here for 46 years. And I come here as a voter, and as a constituent for city council people. 1339
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And to let you know that there are many, many people that aren't in the room tonight that care about this issue, and that care about seeing something being done. If Safeway won't put up a camera, why doesn't the city put up a camera? It seems to me that you probably have some kind of…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: city property somewhere along Pitt Avenue with a street light or some kind of sign or something. If you can put, surveillance cameras up at the library, which you have done, surely you can do it at Safeway.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I want you to know that the citizens here
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support the families in Sebastopol who do not feel welcomed by racist attacks in Sebastopol, and I also want to underscore
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: how essential it is for all of you to understand and become knowledgeable about how systemic this is. I went to a meeting at Brookhaven
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: months ago, and I know nothing has been done. So, this is an ongoing issue, and as Stephen has said, it starts in the elementary school and goes all the way up to the high school.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And it isn't simply the kids.

Obviously, it's the parents also that are indoctrinating kids in this kind of belief system. So I hope we will all take it seriously and do something as a community about it. Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Dina, for your public comment. Next, I will go out to Zoom.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: M. Kelly, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Jim Kelly, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I will come back to her. June, can you unmute yourself, please?
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June Brashares (she/her): Yes, hello.
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June Brashares (she/her): Yeah, this is June Brashares, and I just wanted to also offer my concern and support for the family and the residents that are living near Safeway that have been the target of these attacks, and that have
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June Brashares (she/her): Had to deal with these hateful and totally unacceptable acts, and, you know, as we've heard tonight, this is not isolated.
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June Brashares (she/her): So I think I really appreciate that the community is
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June Brashares (she/her): stepping up. We do need to treat this as something very serious and very important, and I regret that, you know, it's been slow to get to this point. I appreciate it's on the agenda tonight, and this is a chance for the community to
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June Brashares (she/her): in at least this forum come together and talk about this. I'm encouraged about the people that are showing up. I do see there is a role for the city to play as a convener with the schools, with the businesses, and so that we can look at what programs can we invest in.
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June Brashares (she/her): That will start with youth at a young age and going all the way up.
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June Brashares (she/her): How do we deal with this? How do we make clear what kind of culture we want in our community? And, you know, one that isn't just, you know, short-term fixes of punitive measures or, you know, putting up barriers. If this is deeply happening in our society. 1361
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connections with the school, and I think the City Council needs to be a part of that as one partner in the community, along with the rest of us. 1362
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June Brashares (she/her): It isn't often, like, ordinances or laws, it's more of programs and, bringing people together and that kind of attention that I think we need to put on this, and to be there in support of all our community members, especially those that are filling these attacks.

We need to be with them and supporting them.
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June Brashares (she/her): So, thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Jean, for your public comment. Next, I will come back into chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hi, my name is Linda Block, and I'm a parent and a family therapist who sees the incredible pain that this kind of intimidation and harassment from the hate and bigotry that's happening, affects families. It's…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the trauma is ongoing, and the… and just unacceptable in our town. I think I heard someone say that there's not a councilperson
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: from the police department, one person from Safeway, so that we have a team that is actually working on this.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Thank you for your public comment. I will go back out to Zoom.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And Kelly, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can you say her name? I think it's Michelle. Michelle, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I will come back into Chambers, and then go back out to see if she's…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oliver? Thank you. Well, the Council just voted down a good neighbor policy earlier this evening, which probably would have fit very well for this kind of general 1376
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it's a very vague agenda item, is what I was going to say, fundamentally. So that didn't work. So on the one… the city of Sebastopol, the citizens don't want cameras. That's also been discussed in this room a lot. So, cameras are the bottom here. 1377
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Except for this situation here. So I would say the solution with the cameras is for the residents on that road, on that wall, to buy Ring cameras or similar, and to record stuff themselves, because that way.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: you can actually capture the people tormenting it. And then separately, I would say, earlier this evening, we were entertained by a guy with a balloon, naked, masturbating, twice. 1379
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: These people are trolling, and they want attention, so the more attention you give them, the more you have committees and people running around giving them the attention they crave, the worse it's gonna get.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, you know, I've dealt with bullies in the past myself. You ignore them, and you quietly clean up, and you quietly entrap them.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And you move on.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the more you make a huge, you know, very expensive hullabaloo about this, I would argue more and more kids will join in. Now, this is great fun. We control the city, they take us really, really seriously.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So I think this is, you know, a dangerous bit of ground that we're getting onto at this point. So commiserations to the people who are getting bullied. I mean, I get it.

It's very miserable, but this is a very clumsy way of dealing with it.

And as I previously said.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: generally speaking, the citizens here don't want any cameras, and they don't want a good neighbor policy, so where do we go from here?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Thank you for your public comment. Next, I'll go back out to Zoom. Michelle, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Michelle, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I will come back into chambers. 1388
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hi, I'm Gwen Fairweather. 1389
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I don't have anything prepared or anything, but what I can say from my heart and from witnessing everybody in this room.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it is… it is something that has to be talked about within the schools and the police departments and everything like that, but we're forgetting that we're talking about actual people, real people experiencing these things. That is extremely disheartening. It's not just bullying, it is racism, and I do understand what your point is about, like.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: it is giving it more attention, and they do kind of, like, feed off of that, so I understand what you're saying with that, but it's a complete…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Disrespect to the actual community that it's happening to, to just…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Say that as, like, a general statement and not actually care about it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: For you, as a police chief, you should be the one that's advocating to help with things like this, because these are your people.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The people that are doing these things are people that…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: are interested in your position, and are interested in your community specifically. And I'm not saying that with any type of energy, but I am saying it just to call attention to it, so it's like, it is important for people like you to be the people talking about it, because they're the people that will listen to you. 1397
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And to have people like us talking about it, it's important, and I support it, but the actual core of the issue, we're not going to be taken seriously in that space. 1398
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Not me meaning, like, Anyways, you get what I'm saying. The point is… sorry.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: This is real people, and that these are real conversations, and it is just about having real conversations about it, and I think that, like.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Gonna give you about 15 seconds.

Thank you. I do think it is important for you specifically to talk about it. I do think it is specifically important for the principal to talk about it, and for these people that we have put into authority positions to talk about it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, obviously, there's things have to be done, people need to talk for all of the things, and it's just ridiculous, because this is real conversations, and I think that we all need to be doing better.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment.

Next, I would go back out to Zoom. Michelle, can you unmute yourself, please?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Can you see the timer? 1404
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M Kelly: Can… No? Can you hear me?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I can hear you.
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M Kelly: Okay, right on.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 30 seconds left.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thanks.
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M Kelly: I, you know, I appreciate everything everybody said, but I'm getting the sense that there isn't a lot of expertise on talking to people about
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M Kelly: racial bias, and I just wonder how prepared
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M Kelly: Racially charged issues, and having, as someone said. 1416
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M Kelly: feeling comfortable with those uncomfortable conversations. And before leading meetings with these difficult conversations, is there an opportunity to train up yourselves in these discussions? And it's not something you have to respond to publicly.
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M Kelly: But I think these are difficult conversations to have, and could there be an opportunity for more training
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M Kelly: amongst yourselves.
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M Kelly: to have the conversations with community members, because these are big conversations to have. So, respectfully, I hope you consider that. Thank you, and sorry for my tech problems.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That's okay. Thank you, Michelle.

We will come back into chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Liz Finn, a resident of Sebastopol in West County for 50 years. What amazed me
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: What caught my attention in the newspaper?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Was the residents who were looking at the graffiti every day.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: They express the feeling that the community doesn't care.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that really, you know, struck at the heart.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then, lo and behold, in my inbox was this rallying of the community to patrol the area during the lunch hours and after school. And I went out one day, and there were community members there, there was a family, the children were doing chalk.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There was signs up on the wall welcoming,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The community, what, you know, embracing,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the neighbors and telling them that they were welcome. And I think there's a very definite role for the Council. Some of you know I, you know, we… we have spoken to the fact that you've passed a resolution in 2017, Resolution 6127, 1430
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think some of the languages, 1431
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The City of Sebastopol, as stated in Resolution 6127, is committed to safeguarding the civil rights, safety, and dignity of all residents, including immigrants from all countries, people of color, people of all religions, gender identity, sexual orientation.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: People with disabilities in all vulnerable communities.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I think…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: this is the moment for the… for the Council to step into those words and see how they can be a force, 1435
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to have… To, to, whether it's, to initiate conversation.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Not through esta… yes, programs and all the things that have been suggested, and…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And it seems like the meeting has been oriented to the punitive area. Is that 2 minutes? That is 2 minutes. 1438
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Too bad. I… because I want… what I didn't hear is the involvement of the students, and talking them to directly. And I think the council could have a town hall, a meeting right here, where the students come, and you can have a dialogue. 1439
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Liz.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Next, I would go out to Zoom. If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment on this item, to please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will come back into chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hi, my name is Bronwyn Shears. I've been a resident in Sebastopol since 1970. I am biracial. 1443
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Growing up in Sebastopol, my sisters and I, as well as our mother, did experience racism. We were called many names. People didn't quite know what to think of us, because I don't necessarily look like a Black woman.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I definitely identify as one.

One of the things that, with, all of this coming up, I read article in the, in the Sebastopol Times, thank you, Laura, and,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I read, our police chief mentioning, freedom of speech.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And associating that term with what was happening, with these young kids saying, these. To have a position of power, like, a police chief does, and to use the term free speech, and I'm taking it out of context, what you said was very thorough in what you said, but however.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To use that term and say that these kids are exercising their free speech, and you elaborated on other points, but that is what is going to be picked up, and that is something that can fuel
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: young people's thoughts that this is somewhat accepted. I know that was not your intention. 1449
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But the way that it was phrased, and that the term free speech was used with this hate speech, and that this was not a hate crime.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think is absolutely incorrect. 1451
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think this is hate speech. 1452
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I do not think this is bullying. 1453
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think that, I am a trained restorative practices practitioner as well. Oh, and you have about a second. So I know that kids, doing, this kind of restorative justice and restorative practice.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I feel that this is, I'm sorry, I'm blanking.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I expect more from our leaders of this town.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: About many issues in this town, and it is not bullying. Rowan, that's 2 minutes. Thank you, okay, thank you.

Thank you for your public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Next, I will go back out to Zoom.

If there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment, to please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will come back into chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is there a way to see the timer from here? Because…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thanks.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I really appreciate a lot of what was said today. I don't want to repeat what was already said, 1464
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: when they might… could have, but they're caring now, and I'm glad that's happening, and I hope that continues, and I hope that care turns into action. I do want to say that I, I do really appreciate the,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: the resolution that came out, I believe,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Solman, sent it out to a group that I'm on.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I appreciate it, and however, I do want to say that I'm not in favor of having police involvement for four reasons, and I sent two of them to you guys, but I thought of two others after I wrote the letter.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: at least for me, and I know for many other people, no offense to you, sir, but…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I feel less safe when there's police around, not more safe.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think it would be really important to check with the community members
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And ask, do you want more police hanging around your neighborhood?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: maybe they do, I don't want to speak for them. I wouldn't. That wouldn't make me feel safer. Second… 1476
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm running out of time already.

Second,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Police, again, no offense, sir, you have a very important role to play, but that punishment… that's the punitive system is not restorative.
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But fourth, really quick,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Sorry.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: kids who do this kind of thing think it's cool to break the law and cool to defy authority and get in trouble, so more police means the cooler it is to act like they're acting. Thank you. Thank you, Megan, for your public comment. Next, I'll go back out to Zoom, and if there's anyone on Zoom that would like to make a public comment, to please raise your hand virtually. 1483
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will come back into chambers.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hi, my name's Wendy Martin. I live on Willow Street in Sebastopol. I wrote a big speech, but I grabbed my grocery list instead.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I'm just here to show my support for my neighbors. I do care deeply about what happens over there.

I've been by there a few times. I want it to stop.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't know what you guys can do to facilitate that, but I encourage the Commission, the council, excuse me, to work with Safeway, work with the schools, everything you can do to stop this
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: horrible behavior in our town.

Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment.

Next, I will go back out to Zoom, if there's anyone on Zoom, to please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will come back into chambers, if there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment on this item.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hi, my name is Stella Scythe. I've been a resident of Sebastopol off and on for 40 years… more than 40 years.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I feel like a lot of people said what I was gonna say, so I'm kind of… I just want to make sure that 1492
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: that it… things aren't worded like graffiti, like, I don't want the complaints from the… the complaints from the community was not against graffiti, the complaints were against graffiti that was saying Hitler was right, and…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: all the other stuff it said. So… and I don't think it was racial mockery, it was…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The community was outraged against the targeted harassment intimidation directed at children of color. 1495
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: On a regular basis, so I just want to make sure we call it what it is. We don't start passing ordinances against graffiti, because this is two very different things. 1496
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I did… I was kind of confused about the… I don't know if I can ask questions, but… so from what I understood from… from Alex.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There would be a criminal… a police officer would have to give a criminal citation to somebody, maybe who was making monkey calls, or who was… who was caught in… doing graffiti, or, you know, stalking someone, or things like that.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So that citation would be… then that child or that person would be referred to restorative justice that Alex said, that had a pretty good reputation of over 16 kids going through it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It sounds like we're not doing fingerprints.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'm just curious, they're gonna have a criminal citation in Sonoma… in Sebastopol.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Is that all the tracking? That's all that's going to be left there? Because for me.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I don't think that that's… I think we need to think about the kids that it's affecting more than the kids that might have a citation in Sonoma County on their record. I think that it would be more important to get them into restorative justice. I think it's been so hard just to get… so I don't know how us creating our own restorative justice system would really work.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you for your public comment.

I will go back out to Zoom if there's anyone on Zoom to please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will come back into chambers, if there's anyone in chambers that would like to make a public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: CNN, public comment is closed on this item.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zolman? Yeah, a question to staff. To Mary in particular, how much time was authorized already to get us to this point? Because, as was clear through my Agenda Item Number 1
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question earlier, we did not, as a body, bless the mayor to engage with these meetings.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I want to hear from you, how much staff time of the police chief did you already
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: spend getting us to this point. So, the meetings that I have attended personally with the mayor and the chief and Safeway and Annalee was less than 3 hours.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then my other question… I'm sorry, and I just wanted to add really quick, I'm sorry to that, we also met with the neighbors, so that was an additional meeting, so that was about an hour or so, so it was about 4 hours in total. Okay, and to get a formally blessed
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Council liaison, we probably… this question to you, Alex, we can't probably do that today, because it wasn't agendized for this purpose. No, but you can direct us to bring it back at the next meeting. Okay. On the agenda.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah, I would actually like to do that. I would like to create an ad hoc for this situation, seize the moment, because it's complicated, there are many different tools that we have, and we need to think about it in a way that is very community involving, and I feel like an ad hoc is the right way to do it with a council member that is…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, officially involved, and we can address this
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Systematically. Yeah, because it does need to go through some of the schools as well.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I think trying to, you know, accomplish a solution right now is not the right thing. 1516
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zolman? To follow up on Councilmember Carter's question.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Could you explain, Alex, how… well, could we create what was suggested in ad hoc? Could we do that tonight, or would it require an agenda item? And if it requires an agenda item, Mary, how quickly could we bring this back with staff's input about… 1518
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: how an ad hoc would be created.

Also, I'd want to know, because this is a constant refrain here, about the burden on staff, because if we're going to have an ad hoc, and if it's going to be one council member, I mean, if it were me, I wouldn't have it without a staff.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And if it were staff, would it just be you, or would it be the police chief? Because I've heard from the community, and I would not want to participate with the police present.

So, that's my question to you now.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So you can direct the… the agenda item to come back. The earliest I could probably, without having an agenda review meeting, we have that to do scheduling. I could probably say we could probably do it the earliest, would be the October 6th meeting, to bring this back.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: It would be the Council direction at that time as to who would be on that ad hoc. We will bring back recommendations, and then it'll be up to the Council to determine who wants… who would be on that ad hoc. Okay, thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So as an alternative to an ad hoc, it also could be a liaison that would work with staff, similar to what the mayor is doing right now, or was doing.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yeah.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I want to thank the public for being here. It's really heartwarming to see the community's support. 1525
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I've written down all of your solutions, because I think the community has the solution. So I've got, like, four… I mean, it's a small note here, but there's, like, four… let's see, one…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to… 4… 5…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: five and a bit pages of your ideas and solutions on how we're going to solve this. And I'm… I'm noting, 1528
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The restorative justice as something that you regard as a possible solution, as long as it's through a good program.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: There were two ordinances that were adopted by Council that I'm not familiar with. One was 6403, I think was reported, and then the other was…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: 6127?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I would like to ask that those ordinances, if those are the right numbers, be emailed to the full council.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So that we can be aware of what they are.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I heard you say that… Councilmember, can you say… so 6403 is attached to the staff report today, Resolution 6403? 643 is… and then 6127 can…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Yes, I have it. If you can email… I have that available and send it right now. You can email that to the full council.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then I heard… You say that… 1536
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: To not involve the police, that the antidote is community, and not the police.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And then another speaker thought that it would be good to involve the police, so the police was getting an educated.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that this is an ongoing process.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: one of the ideas that I really like is the idea of training.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Training the community leaders for racial bias.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because I believe that that can also be unconscious.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You can have conscious bias, and you can have unconscious bias, and if you're in… in a leadership position, it's really good to…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: understand that, and I would think that I would volunteer my educational… I have an educational fund, I think… I can't remember how much it is, but all of us have, I think, maybe $2,500 in travel and education fund.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: But I would volunteer mine for some education, but I would like to see that all of us, all the council, the staff, and including the police chief.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Maybe the fire chief all have this training.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, because I think that's a really good idea.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So thank you for whoever brought that up.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I just love the fact that the community has a patrol at lunch hour.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And that's so beautiful. 1550
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I think, you know, the idea of… 1551
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: having the schools address it, I'm… Sure, they've tried.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I think they just… they need to do more. The schools need to do more.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I personally like the idea of 1554
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: asking Safeway to volunteer to make some of these changes.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Because you're saying we can't force them to do it, but we could certainly write them a letter and ask them to do it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I think that that's one step. 1557
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I would be interested in maybe contacting the people who do the graffiti cleanup.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And making sure that they're aware of this location.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And, seeing if they could be mindful of covering that up. I'm not in support of another ordinance, or a blight ordinance, or a graffiti ordinance, or anything like that. 1560
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, those are some of my thoughts.

Councilmember Hinton, do you have any thoughts?
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Councilmember Neysa Hinton: I mean, it's a lot to take in tonight, and I would be… I would, I'm fine with staff direction, I just wonder what our availability is as a council to serve on another…
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Councilmember Neysa Hinton: Here for this item. Maybe she wants to continue, don't know.
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Councilmember Neysa Hinton: So I'm fine, you know, pivoting to staff and having them Come back,
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Councilmember Neysa Hinton: With information, I guess, on that. 1566
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Councilmember Neysa Hinton: So, yeah, I don't… I don't have a lot to say tonight. I do… I do know it was noted earlier, and I've noted before, that the… the schools do have their own elected,
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Councilmember Neysa Hinton: officials, and, while we can certainly work with them, I do think that,
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Councilmember Neysa Hinton: you know, they need to take the direction in the schools, and we could take the direction, maybe, civically. So, that's my only feedback.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Where do we want to go? 1571
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zolman? Yeah, I'll go ahead and just make a motion that this item be returned back on the October 6th calendar, for staff's,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thoughts and analysis on the creation of an ad hoc, whether it be
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I guess it would only be… if it were an ad hoc, it would just be one.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thinking through this, it's just like, whether staff would recommend it be an ad hoc, which would mean one council member, or a standing, which would require two. 1575
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No, go ahead. So, a liaison could just be one. If it's an ad hoc, it would be two. Otherwise, we would just have it be a liaison. That's fine. So, I would want staff's thoughts, especially around staff time, to be…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Part of an ad hoc, and also staff's thoughts on including police or not including police.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And also, based upon the discussion here from the members of the public, like, what items you think are reasonable. Like, every time we create an ad hoc, we always have a scope, so I'd like to see staff's idea of a scope for that ad hoc, and then return it back on October 6th, so that's my motion.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: I'll second that one. 1579
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Can we hear that again, please? Sure, basically the essence, that was a lot of words, but just to bring it back for October 6th, to have staff's thoughts about an ad hoc, and then also,
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: The participants, like, who of staff they think, based upon the community's input, should be staffed to it, and then
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hours associated, like, how much the city manager thinks
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Hours should be expended, and then also their draft of a scope.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for that ad hoc. Would you consider adding to that training for racial bias as part of that meeting discussion? Sure, to examine, training, restorative justice, those type of things. Yeah, I don't think we should limit it.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And could you add to that also, a request for Safeway to volunteer?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, to ask them to step up with some…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: solutions. Yeah, I would actually hope all of that gets into the ad hocs actions later.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: scope. I was just actually gonna say that that could become a part of the scope of work. 1588
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I just want to say, we have had those conversations. So, we have, when we met with them, have asked them about certain things, what they can… But we could put it in writing from the city.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Make it a little stronger. 1591
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And so we can make that scope of work for the ad hoc. Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, I think we have a motion and a second.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Oops, Councilmember Hinton, did you have your hand up?
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Councilmember Neysa Hinton: I did, but Councilmember Maurer went ahead and added it, and that was the,
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Councilmember Neysa Hinton: the bias anti… or, you know, the bias training that I do believe should be added to our training schedule for both full council and all management leadership within the city.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, are we ready to call the vote?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: So, so moved by Councilmember Zolman, and seconded by Councilmember Carter to direct staff to return with an agenda item to the October 6th
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: City Council meeting for creation, of an ad hoc committee, in response to recommendations for tonight. The ad hoc committee will have staff time, recommendation for staffing, scope of duties and hours, as well as a recommendation for training for racial bias for City Council Management.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: And I will also check with, just on a side note, checking with our ZRA to see if they have this program already.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Carter? Yes.

Councilmember Hinton?
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Councilmember Neysa Hinton: Aye.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Councilmember Zolman? Yes. Vice Mayor Maurer? Yes. Mayor McLewis is absent. Motion passes 4-1, with Councilmembers Carter, Hinton, Zolman, and Vice Mayor Maurer in support, and Mayor McLewis absent.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you. Thank you, everyone, for coming tonight.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Okay, so we will, we have additional public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you, Vice Mayor. So this is the opportunity for, public comment for items not on the agenda, if you did not speak earlier this evening.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: If there's anyone in the chambers that wants to make a public comment for an item not on the agenda, that was not addressed on the, and was not spoken at the earlier public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, I will go out to Zoom.

If there's anyone that would like to make a public comment for items not on the agenda and you did not speak in the first public comment period, please raise your hand virtually.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Seeing none, there's no public comment.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Thank you.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: No, we have no reports tonight.

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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Do we have any Councilmember reports? Councilmember Zolman? Just briefly, I would… I know you all got a lot of emails from me, related to the reshaping and the direction of the Department of Public Health through Nolan. I would really encourage you to at least read the last one about
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: there's, like, at the beginning of the paragraph, it's like, there will be a straw poll vote at the next time us electates me. Please read that, and then send it to Mary. Don't send it to me, because that'll create a problem. Send it to Mary, and I'll talk with Mary be…
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: for that meeting, so that I convey the right stuff from all you into that process. So, that's all. Can you repeat what
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: That was, again, a straw poll vote at the end of what email? It was an email. I think Nolan, the Department of Public Health, sent out today that had the documents from yesterday's meeting. If you just sort of scan your emails, it'll be from today, and then he'll say something about straw vote.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: at the next meeting, if you could kind of review that. Okay.
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: to protect Brown Act, send it to Mary, Mary will figure out a way to let me know so I can show up at the next meeting, and not just speak on behalf of myself. It's not in the attachment, it's in the body of the email. Okay, thank you. 1618
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: Anyone else?
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Sebastopol Community Cultural Center: You know, along with myself.

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City Council Meeting - September 1, 2026
Agenda Item Number 1
STEVEN, ARE WE READY TO START THE MEETING? WE ARE. CODY? I'M READY.

OKAY, THANK YOU. MAYOR, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME?
I AM ABLE TO HEAR YOU.

OKAY.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON, CAN YOU HEAR US?
I CAN HEAR YOU.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

LET ME JUST ARE GET MY AGENDA HERE, AND I'LL BE READY IN JUST ONE MOMENT.

THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

MAYOR, WE'RE READY TO START THE MEETING WHENEVER YOU ARE.

OKAY. I'M JUST MAKING SURE FOR CONFIRMATION. WELCOME EVERYONE TONIGHT TO CITY COUNCIL. OBVIOUSLY I'M ON ZOOM. FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS ACTUALLY

JUST CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING, AND THEN HAVE OUR CITY MANAGER, MARY, IF YOU COULD DO THE ROLL CALL?
THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?
HERE.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
WITH HERE.

COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
PRESENT.

VICE MAYOR MAURER?
HERE.

MAYOR MCLEWIS?
HERE.

ALL COUNCILMEMBERS ARE IN ATTENDANCE.

PERFECT. THANK YOU. SO TONIGHT WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME REMOTE PARTICIPATION.

I'LL JUST LET YOU KNOW I AM PARTICIPATING REMOTE UNDER MY ACCOMMODATION FOR MY MEDICAL TREATMENT THAT I'M RECEIVING TONIGHT. IT'S A NECESSARY THING TONIGHT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER COUNCILMEMBER HINTON, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, I DON'T KNOW?

I'M PARTICIPATING TONIGHT AS POSTED ON THE AGENDA FROM A LOCATION IN BEND, OREGON. I HAVE TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE I'M UP HERE TRAVELING FOR MY WORK BUSINESS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE NEXT THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS ABSOLUTE TO THE FLAG, IF WE COULD ALL STAND AND DO THAT. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

I JUST WANTED TO STATE. ONE THING I DISCOVERED LEADING THE MEETING THROUGH ZOOM. UNLESS SOMEONE IS ON THE MICROPHONE, YOU ABSOLUTELY CANNOT HEAR ANYTHING ON THE ROOM. SO IF ANYTHING IS HAPPENING IN THE ROOM, I JUST HOPE

THAT SOMEONE WILL COMMUNICATE THAT WITH ME BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LEARNING PROCESS OVER THIS YEAR. I CAN SEE SOME CHAIRS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT'S ON THE MICROPHONES. OKAY. SO WE HAVE THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT WE DO AT EVERY MEETING. THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL

ACKNOWLEDGES THAT WE LIVE AND WORK WITHIN THE UNCEDED ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THE SOUTHERN POMO AND THE COAST MIWOK PEOPLE. WE PAY OUR

RESPECT TO THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS OF THESE PEOPLES, INCLUDING THE FED RATED INDIANS OF GRATON RANCHERIA. AND THIS EVENING, JUST

DUE TO ALL OF THE -- JUST DUE TO THE CHANGES MADE IT IN DOING THIS REMOTE, WE

WON'T BE DOING THE HISTORY PIECE TONIGHT, BUT I'LL HAVE THAT BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PROCLAMATIONS OR PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING. SO

THE FIRST THING I WANT TO ASK EVERYONE IS IF THERE ARE ANY STATEMENTS OF Agenda Item Number 1
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CONFLICT OF INTEREST? I SEE HEADS SHAKING. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, I CAN'T TELL Agenda Item Number 1

IF YOU --
WE HAVE NO STATEMENTS IN THE CHAMBERS.

OKAY, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE SHAKING THEIR HEADS, WHILE IT'S HARD TO SEE. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. SO IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT OVER, MARY? THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO AS STATED, THIS IS FOR ITEMS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT IS A 20-MINUTE TIME LIMIT. IT IS A TWO-MINUTE PER SPEAKER. WE GO TO CHAMBERS FIRST,

AND THEN GO OUT TO ZOOM, COME BACK IN, GO BACK OUT UNTIL THERE'S TEN SPEAKERS. I'LL ELECT THE CHAMBERS IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA? IS THE MICROPHONE PUSHED ON?
HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS, MY NAME IS MELISSA PAIGE. I'M A MEMBER OF

TENANTS UNITED, AND WE ARE JUST HERE TO ASK YOU TO PUT THE PERMANENT, THE ORDINANCE ON THE AGENDA TO MAKE IT PERMANENT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
I CAN.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN'T, BUT YOU CAN LET ME KNOW.

GREAT. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING. I WANT TO BEGIN TONIGHT BY CORRECTING SOMETHING I SAID DURING

PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE AUGUST MEETING, AND APOLOGIZE TO COUNCILMEMBER HINTON. I SAID IN THAT MEETING THAT COUNCILMEMBER HINTON HAD MISSED FOUR OUT OF THE PREVIOUS FIVE SCTCA MEETING. WHILE I WAS MAKING THAT COMMENT, COUNCILMEMBER HINTON ACTUALLY ARRIVED LATE TO THE MEETING. SO I MISSPOKE AND I APOLOGIZE. YOU HAVE ONLY MISSED THREE OF THE PREVIOUS FIVE MEETINGS WITHOUT AN ALTERNATE PRESENT, NOT FOUR. BUT THERE'S AN IMPORTANT ITEM LATER

IN THAT MEETING THAT NEYSA DID MISS AFTER LEAVING SOMEWHAT EARLY TO ATTEND A SONOMA COUNTY FAIR MEETING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL HEARS ABOUT IT.

SCTCA REPORTED SEBASTOPOL WAS THE ONLY JURISDICTION IN SONOMA COUNTY INITIALLY FOUND OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH MAINTENANCE EFFORT REQUIREMENT. THE PURPOSE OF THAT REQUIREMENT IS SIMPLE. WHEN VOTERS PROPOSE NEW

TRANSPORTATION FUNDING, CITIES AREN'T SUPPOSE TO RESPOND BY REDUCING THEIR OWN BASELINE TRANSPORTATION SPENDING. SCTCA CALLS THIS A KEY ACCOUNTABILITY PROMISE MADE TO VOTERS. SEBASTOPOL IS INITIALLY 8% DEFICIT.

STAFF RECOMMENDED WITHHOLDING AND REDISTRIBUTING MORE THAN $11,000 OF

FUNDING, AND THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE SUPPORTED THAT RECOMMENDATION. BEFORE THE SCTCA BOARD COULD TAKE THAT FINAL ACT,

SEBASTOPOL REVISED ITS FINANCIAL REPORTING FOLLOWING AN AUDIT, AND REVISED REPORTING TO THE STATE CONTROLLER. WE WERE ULTIMATELY DECLARED COMPLIANT.

MAYBE THESE REVISIONS WERE ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE. BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I THINK THIS DESERVES A PUBLIC EXPLANATION HERE.

KYLE, YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

HOW DOES SEBASTOPOL'S FINANCIAL PRACTICES ALLOW US TO REPORT OURSELVES OUT OF COMPLIANCE IN THE FIRST PLACE? WHAT SPECIFICALLY CHANGED AFTER WE WERE THREATENED WITH LOSING FUNDING? AND WHY DID OUR REPRESENTATIVE TO SCTCA

NOT REPORT THE SITUATION BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC WHEN IT WAS UNFOLDING?
THANK YOU, KYLE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL COME INTO CHAMBERS F THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS? I'LL GET THE GENTLEMAN THE NEXT TIME.

HELLO, MY NAME IS SANDY RUSSELL. AM I LOUD ENOUGH? CAN YOU HEAR? WE CAN HEAR.

GREAT. OKAY. I JUST CAME TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOU FOR

THE LAST YEAR ON THE ORDINANCE TO HELP PROTECT US FROM EVICTION FROM WOODMARK. ANY WAY TONIGHT'S COMMENTS FROM ME ARE BASICALLY TO THANK

EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION IN MAKING THIS HAPPEN FOR US. WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I WANT TO WISH YOU ALL GOOD LUCK ON YOUR Agenda Item Number 1
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RE-ELECTION. I KNOW IT'S ALL COMING UP, AND I THINK, YES, YOU'RE THE VICE MAYOR NOW. YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN. HE HELPED

US A LOT WITH OUR PLIGHT IN LIVING AT WOODMARK AND FIGHTING EVICTIONS, AND WE'RE VERY SAD TO SEE YOU GO. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DID FOR US AND MARY TOO, AND ALEX. THANK YOU. OKAY. I HOPE OWE ALL GOT A COPY OF OUR

STATEMENT REGARDING THE ORDINANCE, AND WE ARE REALLY ANXIOUS TO BRING IT

FORWARD RATHER THAN LEAVE IT TILL LATER BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE

A CHANGING OF THE GUARD, AND WE REALLY WANT TO TRY TO MAKE IT A PERMANENT PART OF OUR EXISTENCE TO PROTECT US FROM FURTHER EVICTION PROBLEMS. THE THREE FACTS THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN. THREE COMPONENTS AS TO WHY

WE'RE STILL HERE, AND PEOPLE ARE PRETTY AMAZED ABOUT THAT, THAT WE ARE STILL HERE AFTER FIGHTING FOR A YEAR.

Agenda Item Number 1
YOU HAVE 20 SECONDS.

OKAY. THE ORDINANCE, WHICH WAS A BIG DETERRENT IN THEIR FINAL FLIGHT TO EVICT US. SONOMA COUNTY WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING THAT PRODUCED SOME FANTASTIC

DISCOVERY DOCUMENTS THAT WAS NOT ONLY ASTOUNDING, BUT SHOCKING TO ALL OF US AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE BACKGROUND.

SANDY, THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

WE JUST BASICALLY REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HELP. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I'LL OUT TO ZOOM. MARY, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
OH, YES.

THANK YOU, CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

OKAY, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

OKAY, THANK YOU. YES, MY NAME IS MARY MEIHAUS. I'M A MEMBER OF THE EFOC FINANCE COMMITTEE. I'M JUST HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE EFOC AND WHAT OUR THOUGHTS ARE AS THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. I WOULD WANT TO FIRST STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CITY REPAYING THE $5.5 MILLION, IDENTIFIED BY THE GRAND JURY REPORT IN MAY OF THIS YEAR. AND ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE EFOC'S WORK.

I JUST WANTED TO INTERRUPT FOR A MINUTE, IF SOMEONE COULD -- COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THAT DOWN? SORRY.

OH. OKAY. SORRY, MARY.

NO.

I THOUGHT IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF, BUT IT WASN'T. I HAD TO SPEAK UP.

OH, NO. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU. DEFINITELY THE TIME TO SPEAK UP. I DID NOT NOTICE. JUST MOVING FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY COMMIT TO MAKING

THAT REPAYMENT OF IMPORTANCE OF THE MISALLOCATED FUNDS, ESPECIALLY THE $300,000 TO BE PUT BACK INTO THE ENTERPRISE FUND. MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE CRUCIAL

WATER INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIRS, ITEMS COMING UP LIKE THE PLEASANT LOOP AND NUMBER FOUR. THOSE ARE CRITICAL NEEDS WITHIN THE CITY. AND I JUST WANTED TO

SAY THE CITY AND COUNCIL ARE RUNNING, ESSENTIALLY RUNNING THE UTILITY DISTRICT. AND THE RATE PAYERS ARE PAYING FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THE UTILITIES.

AND THE CITY AND THE COUNCIL NEED TO DEVOTE THE CONCENTRATED TIME TO THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR THAT FOCUS.

AND WE LOOKED TOWARDS THAT AS THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, WE LOOK TOWARDS THE

EXAMPLES OF THIS FOCUS THROUGH PLACES LIKE SWEETWATER SPRINGS, WHICH IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WATER DISTRICT OR NEIGHBOR WATER DISTRICT. AND SO FOR THINGS

LIKE THEIR MEETINGS INVOLVE LABORATORY TESTING, WATER PRODUCTION, LEAKS,

ALL THE INFORMATION INCLUDING ALL THE LEAKS TO THE RAINFALL, GRANTS, ALL THESE THINGS. WE BELIEVE THE PUBLIC SHOULD FUNCTION LIKE A GENERAL MANAGER OF THE UTILITY DISTRICT.

MARY, THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

OH, SHOOT. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS, IF THERE IS ANYONE IN C CHAMBERS? PLEASE.

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GOOD EVENING, MY NAME'S STEVE EINSTEIN, AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT CHAPTER Agenda Item Number 1

8.25 OF THE SEBASTOPOL MUNICIPAL CODE, AND IN PARTICULAR, THE NUMBER 55.

INDIVIDUALS WHO PROTEST AT THE MAIN INTERSECTION IN TOWN EVERY FRIDAY

AFTERNOON IN SUPPORT OF THE PALESTINIAN CAUSE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO LIE AND

DISTORT AND SPREAD FALSE INFORMATION ABOUT THE TRAGEDY THAT HAS BEFALLEN THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN GAZA. INDEED, IT'S A TRAGEDY FOR ALL THE PEOPLES OF THE MIDDLE EAST. THEIR SIGNS GROSSLY MISTAKEN DISTORT THE TRUTH

FROM THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS KILLED TO THE ROLE OF THE SPREADING OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES IS THEIR RIGHT. BUT NEVERMIND THAT. FREE SPEECH IS PROTECTED, EVEN WHEN IT'S HATE SPEECH. WHAT IS NOT PROTECTED IS EXCEEDING THE DECIBEL LIMITS AS SPELLED OUT IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 8.25. THAT'S THE NOISE CONTROL ORDINANCE. THESE DEMONSTRATORS HAVE BEEN BLASTING HATEFUL

LYRICS FULL OF DISTORTIONS ABOUT ISRAEL AND THE JEWS WHO LIVE THERE FOR MANY

MONTHS THROUGH A SOUND SYSTEM THAT WELL EXCEEDS THE LEGAL LIMIT OF FIVE DECIBELS. THAT'S THE LIMIT SPELLED OUT IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE IN THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL, SECTION 8.25.060. NEVERMIND THE HATEFUL LYRICS THAT PORTRAY ISRAEL AS A STATE OF NAZI PEDOPHILES. THEIR SPEAKER USUALLY BLASTS THE INTERSECTION AND EVERYONE NEAR IT AT 90 TO 100 DECIBELS WELL IN EXCESS OF THE LAW.

STEVE, YOU HAVE 15 SECONDS.

GREAT. TO THIS POINT, THE SEBASTOPOL POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A MISTAKEN EFFORT TO RESPECT AND PROTECT FREE SPEECH HAS YET TO ENFORCE THE CODE. I HOPE THIS

FRIDAY AND EVERY DAY GOING FORWARD OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL RESPECT AND PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF ALL OF US BY FINALLY ENFORCING THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. MARY, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
YES.

THANK YOU, CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES. I'LL BE QUICK.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO GO BACK TO THREE MINUTE COMMENTS. IT WAS WHAT, MAYBE THREE YEARS AGO THAT I THINK DIANA MADE IT -- TOOK IT DOWN TO TWO.

PEOPLE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE TIME AND ARE USUALLY CUT OFF. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY. I WAS HOPING MAYBE THAT COULD BE BROUGHT UP IN ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS.

PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL AND TO MAYOR, VICE MAYOR. AND I ALSO LIVE IN SEBASTOPOL. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WOODMARK TENANTS FOR THE LAST YEAR AS THEY'RE FIGHTING TO KEEP THEIR HOMES, KEEP A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS. I WANTED TO SHARE SOME SOFT TRIUMPHS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING OH THE LAST YEARS. THE

LEADERS HAVE BEEN ENGAGING IN SUPPORTING OTHER RESIDENTS ACROSS SONOMA

COUNTY IN THE MOBILE HOME PARK, AS WELL AS BUILDING CONNECTIONS WITH THEIR

NEIGHBORS, THEIR NEW NEIGHBORS, FARM WORKING NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE IN THOSE UNITS. I WANTED TO SHARE THERE IS A TREND THAT WE'RE SEEING AS THIS KIND OF NEW

STANDARD OF GOING BEYOND WHAT'S GOOD CAUSE AND REALLY STEPPING UP TO JUST CAUSE. SO I FEEL LIKE SEBASTOPOL REALLY SET A MODEL FOR HAVING JUST CAUSE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPLEXES OF 45 UNITS AND MORE, WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL NEW

STANDARD THAT I THINK REALLY SETS THE TONE OF WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE SAY HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT HERE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUE TO SUPPORT. WE HOPE YOU CAN AGENDAIZE JUST CAUSE SOONER THAN NOVEMBER. WE KNOW THAT TIME IS TICKING FOR FOLKS. THIS COMPANY WILL DO WHAT THEY CAN TO GET FOLKS OUT OF THEIR HOMES. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE FOLKS FEEL PROTECTED AND KEEP FIGHTING IN BUILDING A COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, IF THERE IS ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT

WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA TO PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY? SEEING NONE, I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF Agenda Item Number 1
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ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE, MAYOR, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

Agenda Item Number 1
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR CONSENT CALENDAR, I. I . I WANTED TO MENTION ITEM NUMBER 11 THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA,

WHICH IS THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING OPTIONS HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE CERTAIN PEOPLE KNEW THAT IN THE AUDIENCE, JUST IN CASE YOU'RE THERE FOR THAT ITEM. SO MOVING ONTO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE ITEMS, AND THEN WE'LL FIND OUT IF ANYONE WANTS TO PULL ANYTHING. NUMBER ONE IS APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FOR REGULAR MEETING OF AUGUST 4, 2026. NUMBER TWO, IS

APPROVAL OF ADOPTION OF CITY POLICY REQUIRING ANNUAL REQUEST FOR THE BARLOW HOTEL TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX TOT REBATE MARKETING EXPENDITURES.

APPROVAL REQUIRES CITY STAFF PLANNING DEPARTMENT, BY MARCH 1 OF EACH YEAR

DURING THE REBATE PERIOD, TO FORMALLY REQUEST THE ANNUAL MARKETING EXPENDITURE REPORT FROM THE HOTEL OWNER. NUMBER THREE, APPROVAL OF NOTICE OF INTENT TO AMEND THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL CONFLICT OF INTEREST CODE.

AMENDMENTS ARE ROUTINE AMENDMENTS SUCH AS CURRENT JOB CLASSIFICATIONS.

NUMBER FOUR, APPROVAL OF SECOND READING IN THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE HAD TO ADD CHAPTER 5.66, NEWSRACK REGULATIONS TO THE SEBASTOPOL MUNICIPAL CODE.

NUMBER FIVE, APPROVAL OF NOTICE OF COMPLETION FOR BODEGA PHASE TWO BIKE LANE PROJECT. NUMBER SIX, APPROVAL OF NOTICE OF COMPLETION FOR DIGOUTS AND REPAIR PAVING PROJECT. NUMBER SEVEN, AWARD CONTRACT FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ENHANCEMENTS ON STATE ROUTE 116. SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK, DOES ANYONE WANT -- DO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO PULL AN ITEM? THERE'S NONE IN CHAMBERS.

OKAY. I WILL NEED TO PULL NUMBER TWO JUST SIMPLY TO VOTE SEPARATELY BECAUSE I PRECLUDED FROM VOTING ON THAT ONE ITEM. SO WHEN WE MAKE A MOTION, IT

WOULD NEED TO EXCLUDE NUMBER TWO, AND DO THAT SEPARATELY WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. SO ANY WAY, GO AHEAD, MARY F YOU WANT TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON HAS HER HAND RAISED.

OH, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE IT THERE.

IT'S OKAY. I WAS JUST GETTING READY FOR A MOTION, AND THEN YOU REMINDED ME OF THAT PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I'LL HOLD THAT.

THANK YOU. SO NOW IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ONLY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, AGAIN, IT'S A TWO-MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. I'LL GO TO CHAMBERS FIRST, THEN GO OUT TO ZOOM. IF ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
I CAN. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO A POINT OF ORDER

BECAUSE BASED ON OUR ZOOM SETTINGS, THERE REALLY ISN'T A PRACTICE BY WHICH A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CAN CALL FOR A POINT OF ORDER. SPECIFICALLY I WANT TO

ADDRESS THE MAYOR'S ACTION OF ANNOUNCING THE REMOVAL OF AN AGENDA ITEM FOLLOWING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. WHAT THAT HAS DONE HAS REDUCED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON THAT ITEM. NOT

ONLY DOES THE PUBLIC NO LONGER HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMMENT ON THAT ITEM AS AN AGENDIZED ITEM TONIGHT. BY WAITING UNTIL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS

THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, YOU HAVE ACTIVELY RESTRICTED THE ABILITY FOR FOLKS TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON THAT ITEM DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME. SO IN THE

FUTURE, IT WOULD SEEM APPROPRIATE THAT WE PULL ITEMS AT THE START OF THE

MEETING AND NOT WAIT UNTIL THE PUBLIC HAS PROVIDED US PUBLIC COMMENT, AND I

WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM EITHER THE ATTORNEY OR THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AS TO THIS PRACTICE AND THE LEGALITY OF THAT PRACTICE. THANKS.

THANK YOU, KYLE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF ANYONE IN CHAMBERS? SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. LEE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
YES, THANK YOU. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
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I CAN.

GREAT, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS NOTICED, BACK AND FORTH AT THE BODEGA

BAY THIS PAST WEEK, AND I DROVE BY THIS NEW BODEGA BAY PROJECT, COMPLETED PROJECT THAT'S ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, A NUMBER OF TIMES. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS A $2.25 MILLION PROJECT. IT APPEARS THERE'S ABOUT MAYBE GENEROUSLY 100 YARDS OF PAVEMENT THAT'S BEEN RESTORED? THERE IS ABOUT 20 YARDS, MAYBE 10 OF

PROTECTED BIKE LANE AND THE PROTECTED BIKE LANE REALLY DOESN'T ATTACH TO A BIKE LANE. IT ATTACHES TO A PATH ACROSS THE BRIDGE ON ONE END. ON THE OTHER END, IT GOES DOWN THE BODEGA AVENUE WHERE THERE ISN'T ANY BIKE LANE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE THINKS $2.25 MILLION IS A LOT FOR WHAT WAS DONE THERE?

AND AT THE TIME I WAS DRIVING A MOTOR HOME, WHICH IF YOU HAVE EVER WRITTEN THE MOTOR HOME OR A BAD ROAD, IT IS REALLY BAD. YOU HEAR EVERY LITTLE

POTHOLE, AND BODEGA IS RIGHT UP THERE WITH THE ROADS I'VE TRAVELEDDED ON IN THE UNITED STATES IN THE LAST YEAR. SO THERE IS A LOT MORE WORK TO BE DONE. IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS? SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. IF ANYONE ON ZOOM WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONLY? SEEING NONE. THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU. AND ALEX, CAN YOU ADDRESS THE QUESTION THERE? I KNOW IT WAS

EXPLAINED TO ME THAT I WASN'T EVEN NECESSARY TO ANNOUNCE IT, BUT I REALIZED I PROBABLY SHOULD. SO CAN YOU, AS FAR AS THE ITEM BEING PULLED? CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT?

YEAH, THE POSTED AGENDA HAS BEEN REVISED, AND IT IS NOTED ON THE AGENDA THAT THE ITEM WAS PULLED.

I'M SORRY, ALEX. CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE?

I SAID THE AGENDA WAS REVISED AND REPOSTED WITH STATING THE ITEM HAS BEEN REMOVED.

AND WILL THERE BE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT ITEM WHEN IT'S PULLED AND REVOTED FOR?
WHEN THE ITEM COMES BACK TO THE COUNCIL, YES.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONE PULLED OFF THE CONSENT. WILL THAT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON THAT?
NOTHING HAS BEEN PULLED OFF OF CONSENT. YES, FOR THE BARLOW? YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE GOING TO -- CAN WE GO WITH THE ITEMS? WE'RE ADDRESSING ONE, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, CORRECT? FIRST?
CORRECT. WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.

OKAY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION. FOR THOSE ITEMS.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON HAS HER HAND UP. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAS A QUESTION OR MOTION? GO AHEAD.

AS I WAS A LITTLE EARLY ON THE DRAW, I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THE ITEMS ON CONSENT AGENDA OF ONE, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN.

SECONDED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, SO MOVED BY

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN. NUMBER TWO HAS BEEN REMOVED. COUNTERCARTER?
YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
AYE.

COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
YES.

VICE MAYOR?
YES.

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MAYOR MCLEWIS?
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YES.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, ALEX, YOU SAID WE NEED TO HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO? I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW HERE.

NO. SINCE IT WAS PULLED, PEOPLE CAN NOW, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

I THOUGHT THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT, NOT ABOUT COUNCIL COMMENT. AM I UNDERSTANDING?
I THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT COUNCIL.

NO, MY QUESTION WAS BASED ON WHAT KYLE HAD SAID, HE CALLED FOR A POINT OF ORDER HERE BECAUSE IF IT WAS PULLED. COULD PEOPLE HAVE MADE COMMENTS ON THE ITEM DURING THE COMMENTS ON CONSENT CALENDAR?
SO PEOPLE CAN MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT ITEM TWO ON THE CONSENT.

THEY COULD HAVE.

I BELIEVE KYLE WAS SPEAKING ABOUT ITEM 11, WHICH IS NOT A PART OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

NO, I'M SURE HE WAS SPEAKING ABOUT ITEM TWO, WASN'T HE? NO. LET ME CLARIFY. I SPOKE BEFORE CONSENT CALENDAR. I SAID ITEM NUMBER 11, WHICH WAS, JUST SO I SPEAK CLEARLY, WAS POSTPONED, NUMBER 11, WHICH WAS THE

WATER INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING OPTIONS BEFORE I STARTED THE CONSENT CALENDAR. I MENTIONED THAT ONE HAD BEEN POSTPONED. IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME

BECAUSE THE AGENDA WAS REVISED PREVIOUSLY, IT WASN'T NECESSARILY TO MAKE A

BIG ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT JUST OCCURRED TO ME THAT I WANTED TO MAKE THAT

ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE WE GOT, YOU KNOW, INTO THE MEETING TOO FAR AND PEOPLE WERE SITTING THERE. I WAS TRYING TO BE COURTEOUS AND MENTION IT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOT NECESSARY. BUT THE COMMENTER WAS ASKING WHETHER OR NOT THAT IMPACTED PUBLIC COMMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING, YOU KNOW, ALEX TO

ADDRESS THAT STATEMENT ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT, AND, YOU KNOW, WAS THERE

ANY ISSUE WITH WHAT WE DID WITH PULLING THAT, YOU KNOW, ME NOT ANNOUNCING IT AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE MEETING VERSES NOW. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, VICE MAYOR, IF THAT HELPS.

YEAH. IT'S FINE. MAYBE I JUST MISUNDERSTOOD, KYLE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO ARE WE CLEAR? IS IT OKAY IF WE GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, MARY?
YES.

OKAY. SO I NEED TO REMAIN OUT OF THIS VOTE, SO SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON HAS HER HAND UP.

YEP.

I'M HAPPY TO MOVE ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR APPROVAL OF

ADOPTION OF CITY POLICY REQUIRING ANNUAL REQUEST FOR THE BARLOW HOTEL TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TOT TAX REBATE, FOR MARKETING EXPENSES.

I'LL SECOND.

THANK YOU. SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER HINTON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER

ZOLLMAN TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM TWO, WHICH IS THE CITY POLICY TO

DIRECT THE RETURN TO THE CITY COUNCIL REQUIRING THE ANNUAL MARCH REVIEW OF THE MARKETING PLAN FROM THE HOTEL OWNER. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER? YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
AYE.

COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
YES.

VICE MAYOR MAURER?
YES.

MAYOR MCLEWIS?
I'M ABSTAINING FROM THAT.

MOTION PASSES 4-1 WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS CARTER, ZOLLMAN, HINTON, AND MAURER APPROVING, AND MAYOR MCLEWIS ABSTAINING.

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OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OUR INFORMATIONAL ITEMS. NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS PRESENTATION FROM ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL ON STATUS OF

GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS, STATUS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING, AND UPDATE ON GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY OR AFFIRMATIONS. I BELIEVE THIS IS BEING HANDLED BY OUR CITY MANAGER. IS THAT CORRECT?
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THAT IS CORRECT, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM AS THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE. THIS IS A 22-UNIT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNIT LOCATED AT GRAVENSTEIN HIGHWAY NORTH. THE ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL

SOCIETY IS THE OWNER AND THE DEVELOPER, AND THE CITY REMAINS THE HOME KEY APPLICANT WITH ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL. AS REPORTED IN THE AUGUST REPORT, THEIR CONSTRUCTION IS ABOUT 80% COMPLETE. THEIR TARGETED COMPLETION DATE IS AROUND NOVEMBER OF 2026 WITH THE MOVEMENT TO FOLLOW AFTER THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THEY ANTICIPATE A 90% OCCUPANCY BY JANUARY OF 28. THE CITY

DOES HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT HAS BEEN MONITORING THE COMPLIANCE, AND THEY HAVE MET THEIR HOME KEY PERFORMANCE MILE ACCORDINGLY. WE DO HAVE LAUREN TAYLOR HERE. WE HAVE, WHO IS FROM ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL. WE ALSO HAVE STEFANI WHO IS THE CITY'S CONSULTANT, THAT'S OVERSEEING THE COMPLIANCE. AND I'M TRYING TO SEE IF JACK TIBBETS IS ON THE CALL. LET ME JUST GET THERE. I DO NOT SEE HIM YET.

BUT THIS ITEM IS TO DISCUSS THE CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS THROUGH THE REMAINING SCHEDULE. DEFENDING ANY AWARDS THAT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, ALLOCATED, BUT NOT YET RECEIVED. THE CUTS, STAFFING MODEL. LAUREN WILL GO INTO THAT. THE

COORDINATED ENTRY, AND THE REFERRALS OF ANY WEST COUNTY OR SEBASTOPOL ELIGIBILITY. THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND THE PLANNED COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AS WELL AS ANY TYPE OF GOOD NEIGHBOR PROTOCOLS. SO HAVING SAID THAT, LAUREN AND ROBIN AND I'LL SEE IF I COULD GET JACK ON BOARD. SO IF YOU WANT TO GO UP TO THE PODIUM AND DO YOUR PRESENTATION.

YEAH, AND TRY TO KEEP OUR TOTAL PRESENTATIONS, YOU KNOW, TEN MINUTES OR UNDER. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS. NICE TO MEET ALL OF YOU. I THINK I KNOW A COUPLE OF YOU MORE PERSONALLY. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?
YES.

MY NAME IS LAUREN TAYLOR, AND YES, I TOOK ON THE POSITION AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL ABOUT TEN WEEKS AGO. SO I'VE BEEN DRINKING FROM THE PROVERBIAL FIRE HOSE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. BUT HERE TONIGHT TO JUST PROVIDE OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT

ABOUT THE PROJECT AND YOUR PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WITH ANOTHER PSH COMMUNITY DOWN THE STREET, WHICH I'M DEEPLY FAMILIAR WITH. I THINK THE MOST

CONSTRUCTION FINANCIALS, BUT THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD IS JUST AROUND THE FINANCIAL GAP THAT WE HAD TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. WE ARE CLOSER TO ABOUT 90% COMPLETION NOW, AND WE DID, WE DID RECEIVE A $1 MILLION MEASURE

O FUNDING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES, SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED AND GRATEFUL FOR THAT. WE HAVE ANOTHER $200,000 COMING IN FROM THE SONOMA COUNTY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. AND THE REMAINING FUNDS TO

COMPLETE THE PROJECT WILL BE -- WE WILL BE USING OUR LINE OF CREDIT TO COMPLETE THAT. MORE NOTABLY AND MOST, I'M EXCITED TO SHARE IS OUR OPERATION PLAN. SO WE HAVE, AS YOU HAD IN THE REPORT, TAKEN ON A PARTNERSHIP WITH COTS, COMMITTEE ON THE SHELTER LIST. THEY HAVE DEEP EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT IN THE HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING SPACE. I PERSONALLY HAVE WORKED WITH

THE ORGANIZATION, NOT WORKED WITH THEM, BUT ALONGSIDE THEM IN PARTNERSHIP FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. SO I REALLY HAVE A LOT OF TRUST IN THIS PATH FORWARD WITH THEM. CHRIS CABRILL IS THE CEO OF COTS, ALSO HERE TONIGHT, AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THERE ARE ALSO OTHERS IN THE

ROOM, THE DIRECTOR OF COORDINATED ENTRY, AND HUNTER SCOTT WHO IS ALSO GIVING ANOTHER PRESENTATION. MARK KRUG HAS BEEN THE CONSULTANT THAT SOME OF YOU MIGHT KNOW FROM PREVIOUS WORK WITH HIM. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANKS SO MUCH. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? GO FOR IT.

JILL, I HAVE A QUESTION.

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YEAH, I DIDN'T.

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YEAH, USUALLY I RUN THE MEETING, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS. BUT DO YOU NEED TO ASK IT NOW OR DO YOU WANT TO ASK IT LATER?
YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IT NOW. IF YOU CAN ANSWER IT, MAYBE ONE OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS COULD ANSWER IT. HAVE YOU REVIEWED OR HAS ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL BOARD REVIEWED THE GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY? AND IF YES, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT?
I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOARD DID. I DID. AND THERE ARE SOME PARTS THAT STAND OUT, JUST AROUND PARTICULARLY AND NOW THAT WE WON'T FULLY BE OPERATING THE SITE.

IT WILL REALLY BE COTS. I FEEL THEY'RE HONESTLY -- I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THEM TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. SORRY, I'M SCROLLING TO IT HERE. I THINK THE MAIN THING

THAT STOOD OUT WAS KIND OF AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD PATROLS AND BEING ON THE PROPERTY MANAGER TO PATROL THE SURROUNDING AREA. THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE A BIT MUCH OF AN EXPECTATION FRANKLY. AROUND THE RESIDENT PORTION, I THINK THERE IS AN INTAKE AND AN ASSESSMENT PROCESS FOR ELIGIBILITY. ALL RESIDENTS WILL COME THROUGH COORDINATED ENTRY. SO THE OTHER LANGUAGE JUST SOUNDS LIKE LOOSE TERMINOLOGY FOR FOLKS THAT NEED TO FOLLOW A LEASE OF WHICH.

ALEX, SHOULD WE BE DISCUSSING THAT TOPIC WHEN IT IS ANOTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA?
YEAH, IT'S FINE TO ASK THEM.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

OKAY, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.

SURE.

AND THAT IS REGARDING THE COUNTY OFFERED $3 MILLION TO YOUR ORGANIZATION.

AND HOW WILL YOU FOLLOW UP TO TRY TO OBTAIN THAT?
YES. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF FOLLOW UP ON THAT SINCE I JOINED THE ORGANIZATION. I HAVE MET WITH OTHERS STILL ON THE CALL OR THE MEETING, BUT I HAVE MET WITH LINDA HOPKINS AND TRACY ABOUT THAT. AND OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. I MET WITH HUNTER SCOTT, DHS, SO WE HAVE BEEN EXPLORING POSSIBILITIES AROUND WHAT WE CAN RETRIEVE OR CAPTURE FROM THAT $3 MILLION

THAT WAS COMMITTED, KNOWING THAT IT WAS COMMITTED BY A PREVIOUS DIRECTOR AND NOT THROUGH A LEGITIMATE NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY. SO YEAH. IT'S

BEEN A BIT OF A STRUGGLE, BUT WE'RE COMMITTED TO FINISHING THE PROJECT REGARDLESS.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

ALL RIGHT. ARE WE FINISHED WITH THE PRESENTATION? I'M SORRY. I CAN'T SEE.

I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE ROBIN AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER THE CONSTRUCTION.

I'M SORRY. ALL I COULD SEE WAS THE SPEAKER. I COULDN'T SEE ANYONE ELSE THERE.

OKAY.

HI, ROBIN STEFANI FROM EIGHTH WAVE. I'VE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THE

CONSTRUCTION PORTION OF THE PROJECT AND ALSO THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE STANDARD AGREEMENT. AND AS LAUREN SAID AND INDICATED IN THE REPORT, THE CONSTRUCTION IS AT ABOUT 90%. AND GOING VERY WELL. IT IS EXPECTED TO REACH A TEMPORARY OCCUPANCY IN MIDDLE TO END OCTOBER PER SCHEDULE. SO THAT'S BEEN GOING REALLY WELL. THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF LARGE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE ORDERS THAT RELATE TO THE SITE. BUT IN TERMS OF ANYTHING OUT OF THE GROUND, THAT'S BEEN VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH

OF YOUR TIME, BUT IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OR

THE BUDGET OR THE TIMELINE OR THE HCD STANDARD AGREEMENT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH I. APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW OUR COUNCIL MEMBER, ZOLLMAN HAS A QUESTION?
YEAH. THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS IN ON RESIDENT SELECTION. I ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET AN ANSWER ABOUT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROVISION FROM WHOEVER WANTS TO DIRECTLY ANSWER THAT. FIRST QUESTION IS ABOUT THE RESIDENT SELECTION. WHAT I REMEMBER HEARING FROM THE DEPARTMENT

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MY PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THE RESIDENT SELECTION. STAFF POINTED OUT THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO ASK, AND YOU CAN REFER TO PAGE -- PAGE FOUR OF THE STAFF REPORT.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH ALL THESE QUESTIONS. SENSUALLY IT

SAYS THE CITY WILL HAVE SOME WAY TO PARTICIPATE IN RESIDENT SELECTION, BUT IT SEEMS VERY UNCLEAR TO ME ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT THAT ROAD MAP WILL LOOK LIKE.

ABOUT HOW AND WHEN WE COULD ACTUALLY START PARTICIPATING IN RESIDENT SELECTION. SO WHOEVER WANTS TO ADDRESS THAT?
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I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT?
HI, I'M KRIS. NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY. I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I MAY ASK YOU TO JUMP IN ON THE COORDINATED ENTRY. SO MY UNDERSTANDING, ALL THE RESIDENTS COMING THROUGH WILL COME THROUGH COORDINATED ENTRY. THERE

WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR WHEN THE PROJECT IS SET UP FOR COORDINATED

REFERRALS FOR THE PROVIDER, CITY OF RECEIVE S ALL THE PARTNERS TO COME TOGETHER TO DISCUSS FACTORS AND CRITERIA. THE COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR SETTING THE CRITERIA, RIGHT? THAT IS UP TO THE PROVIDER AND THE OWNER, AND IT IS REALLY TIED TO THE FUNDING MECHANISM FOR THE PROPERTY.

SO WHATEVER WE TELL COORDINATED ENTRY IS WHAT COORDINATED ENTRY WILL DO.

I'M SORRY IF I MISSPOKE. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. BUT IT WOULD BE AT THAT

POINT WHEN SETTING UP RESIDENT CRITERIA FOR SELECTION THROUGH COORDINATED ENTRY THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE INPUT.

OKAY BECAUSE I JUST REALLY WANT TO BE CLEAR AS ANNOUNCED BEFORE. AISLE ROLLING OFF COUNCIL. I HAVE A FEELING OF RESPONSIBILITY TO MY COLLEAGUES, ESPECIALLY BEING THE LIAISON IN MANY WAYS TO OUR SHELTERS. I REALLY NEED THIS BROKEN DOWN. BECAUSE THE TIMELINE SEEMS TO NOW HAVE BEEN EXTENDED ABOUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE REALLY GOING TO GET KEYS TO THE DOOR. SO I REALLY NEED THIS

TO BE SLOWED DOWN AND TALK ABOUT TIMELINES, SO THAT STAFF IS VERY CLEAR TOO, AND WHOEVER TAKES OVER MY POSITION IS VERY CLEAR. SO THE ANTICIPATED MOVE-IN DATE SEEMS TO NOW BE NOVEMBER OR JANUARY? I DON'T KNOW. IF SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME. WHERE I'M GOING IS I WANT IT LITERALLY BACKED UP FROM THE DATE

SOMEBODY THINKS THEY ARE GOING TO GET KEYS TO WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CITY PARTICIPATION? WHO IS INVITED INTO THESE MEETINGS? WHAT INFORMATION WILL BE ABLE TO BE SHARED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL RESIDENTS? AND THEN ALSO ALL THESE

PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHEN DID THEY GET TO HEAR ABOUT WHO THEIR NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO BE? THAT IS HOW NITTY-GRITTY AND GRANULAR I NEED TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

TOTALLY FAIR. I'LL DO MY BEST AND ALSO RELY ON THE TWO OF YOU PROBABLY FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AS THE PROVIDER TO START MOVING PEOPLE IN. AND I'LL TRY TO BE AS CLEAR WITHOUT MUDDYING THE WATERS AS I CAN BE. SO OUR PLAN BECAUSE ST. THE ST. DOESN'T HAVE OPERATING MONEY TO OPERATE THE PROJECT. COTS DOES HAVE MONEY TO OPERATE THE PROJECT. HOWEVER, THE WAY THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE IS BY US ELIMINATING SOME OF OUR EXISTING MASTER LEASES, RIGHT? AND SO FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING ALREADY FOR SOME TIME, WHO ARE ALREADY STABLE. THEY ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO CLINICAL SERVICES, THEY ALREADY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH A CASE MANAGER.

THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO LIVE IN PSH AND LIVE IN THEIR OWN HOME, THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT WILL BE MOVING IN FIRST. SO IT DEPENDS ON ONCE CONSTRUCTION IS DONE AND WE CAN GET PEOPLE MOVED. FOR SOME OF THOSE FOLKS, IT WILL BE WITHIN THE FIRST TWO WEEK OF CONSTRUCTION FINISHING. FOR SOME OF THEM, IT WILL TAKE THEM LONGER. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT HAVE DISABLING CONDITIONS. IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOMEBODY WHOSE IN A WHEELCHAIR WHO HAS LIVED IN A UNIT FOR 15 YEARS MORE THAN TWO WEEKS TO PACK THEIR STUFF AND MOVE.

RIGHT? SO IT MIGHT TAKE THAT PERSON 45 DAYS. WE'RE GOING TO HELP THEM WITH THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PRESSURE THEM. AND I ALSO WANT TO HELP ALL OF

YOU UNDERSTAND AND THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT IT IS A LOT BETTER FOR THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY TO TAKE YOUR TIME WITH LEASE UP. WHEN YOU PUT SOMEBODY IN A SITUATION THAT'S BRAND NEW TO THEM. ALL THEIR NEIGHBORS ARE NEW. COMMUNITY IS NEW. THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE ANYTHING IS. THEY MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR HEALTHCARE PROVIDER, RIGHT? THEY MIGHT JUST BE IN A Agenda Item Number 1
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COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH. THEY HAVE TO KIND OF LEARN WHERE THEY ARE AND LEARN THEIR NEIGHBORS. GIVING THEM TIME TO DO THAT WITHOUT OVERWHELMING THEM WITH 21 PEOPLE MOVING IN ALL AT THE SAME TIME, IT MIGHT BE BETTER. EVEN WHEN LEASE ISN'T DONE UNTIL MARCH, THERE IS A WHOLE LOT

LESS DISRUPTIONS TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY IF WE MOVE IN TWO PEOPLE AND THEN TWO PEOPLE, AND THEN TWO PEOPLE. SO YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF FOLKS IN THIS

PROJECT WHO ARE FUNDED WITH DHS FUNDING AND HUD CONTINUUM OF CARE FUNDING, SUPPLEMENTED THROUGH MEDI-CAL FUNDING. AND THEN ONCE THOSE UNITS OPEN, RIGHT? ONCE WE HAVE UNIT TURNOVER, THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH COORDINATED ENTRY TO FILL THOSE UNITS, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE GETTING ESTABLISHED TENANTS THAT WANT TO LIVE IN SEBASTOPOL. THEY KNOW HOW PSH OPERATION. THEY ARE VERY STABLE. THOSE ARE THE FIRST UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE FILLED. THOSE ARE THE FIRST TENANTS THAT YOU'RE GETTING. AS WE HAVE UNIT TURNOVER, PEOPLE WILL COME THROUGH COORDINATED ENTRY. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING IN DID GO

THROUGH COORDINATED ENTRY, BUT THEY WENT THROUGH COORDINATED ENTRY FIVE YEARS AGO, TEN YEARS AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, RIGHT? AS OUR UNITS BECAME OPEN.

THOSE ARE THE FOLKS MOVING IN FIRST. I WANT TO STOP THERE AND TAKE QUESTIONS.

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NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. WHO WILL BE THE POINT OF CONTACT? IT SOUNDS LIKE BECAUSE YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF THE OPERATING FUNDS. IS MARY REACHING OUT TO YOU

WHEN PEOPLE HEAR THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY'RE LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE IS MOVING IN, BUT YET WE HAVEN'T HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING YET? NO

ONE KNOWS WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE WHERE I'M COMING FROM, I DO NOT WANT A REPEAT OF ELDERBERRY. I WANT PEOPLE TO BE FULLY KNOWLEDGEABLE. SO IS MARY REACHING OUT TO YOU? ARE YOU THE NEW CONTACT FOR WHATEVER QUESTIONS WE HAVE MOVING FORWARD?
YEAH, GOOD QUESTION. I THINK IT WOULD BE TOTALLY APPROPRIATE TO ENGAGE BOTH

LAUREN AND I RIGHT NOW WITH ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MOVE IN, SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, WHO WILL BE THERE AND WHEN THEY'RE MOVING IN.SO WE'RE NOT LIKE SIGNED ON THE DOTTED LINE, BUT WE KNOW EACH OTHER WELL. WE'RE WORKING WITH MARK KRUG, HE'S SUPER HELPFUL. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP. I THINK IT'S TOTALLY APPROPRIATE TO DO THAT. I MEAN, COTS ISN'T FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF YOU. WE DO HAVE OPERATIONS IN SEBASTOPOL ALREADY. WE'VE GOT A PSH PROPERTY HERE. WE ALSO DO PREVENTION WORK HERE. SO HAPPY TO ENGAGE WITH YOU IN ANY WAY THAT MAKES SENSE FOR YOU AND FOR THE COMMUNITY. YOU CAN REACH OUT ANY TIME. I EMAIL REALLY FAST.

WE HAVE ANOTHER COUNCILMEMBER WHO HAS A QUESTION. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT IS OKAY IF WE KIND OF BOUNCE THE QUESTIONS AROUND AND BALANCE IT OUT? SURE.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
YEAH. I MEAN, I'M JUST TAKING THE INFORMATION IN. BUT MY RECOLLECTION IS WE

WERE NEVER PROMISED BECAUSE IT'S CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION ABOUT PEOPLE WHO

WERE SELECTED THAT WE COULD LIKE PICK WHO IS GOING TO MOVE INTO THIS COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE

THAT WAS -- WE'RE NOT HOLDING A TOWN HALL TO DECIDE LIKE GET FEEDBACK ON WHO IS ACCEPTED INTO THIS NEW COMMUNITY. I FEEL LIKE WE ARE TRUSTING OUR OPERATORS. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AGAIN BECAUSE I NEVER HAD THAT EXPECTATION.

I THINK WE ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE WITH THAT. [ INAUDIBLE ] I TOO HEARD THE SAME THING THAT WAS STATED EARLIER. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? IT'S HARD TO SEE.

LAUREN FROM ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A REAL COMMENT BEFORE WE TAKE THE NEXT QUESTION.

YEAH. I MEAN, HONESTLY I HEAR YOUR CONCERN. AS I SAID, I WAS INVOLVED WITH A LOT OF THE CONCERNS HAPPENING AT ELDERBERRY, WHICH WERE VALID. I THINK OUR GOAL IS TO HELP PERSUADE ANY FEARS YOU HAVE OR APPREHENSIONS. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITEMENT ABOUT THIS PATH FORWARD AND THE COMMUNITY ITSELF. AND

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OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER? I CAN'T TELL. DO YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP?

YEAH, I WANT TO KNOW HOW THE NEW EASES RESIDENTS, A, HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT? BUT B, HOW THE NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING IN, WHICH IS A HARD ADJUSTMENT FEEL LIKE THEY'RE ALL A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW? SO THAT THEY OWN IT WHEN THEY GET HERE.

I LOVE THAT QUESTION. WE ARE LIKEWISE CONCERNED WITH THAT, RIGHT? OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS PEOPLE NEED TO BE THERE AS LONG AS THEY NEED TO BE. BUT WE ALSO LIKE PEOPLE TO STABILIZE AND MOVE INTO MARKET RATE HOUSING, RIGHT? AND WHEREVER IT IS THEY WANT TO LIVE WITH WHOEVER THEY WANT TO LIVE WITH. ON SITE WILL HAVE A PROPERTY MANAGER AND A CASE MANAGER, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. COTS

ALSO EMPLOYEES BOTH THE ASSOCIATE SOCIAL WORKERS AND LICENSE CLINICAL

SOCIAL WORKER WHO IS ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY IN ANY OF OUR HOUSING PROGRAMS. WE ALSO HAVE A REALLY EXPERIENCED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PERSON THAT RUNS OUR RESIDENTS. HE'S OUR RESIDENCE SERVICE MANAGER, SO HE OVERSEES ANY PROJECTS THAT HAVE GENERALLY SPEAKING TEN UNITS OR MORE. SO WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF REALLY EXPERIENCED ON-SITE PEOPLE. LIKE I SAID, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FIRST

TENANTS WHO ARE MOVING IN, THEY ALREADY HAVE REALLY STRONG ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR CASE MANAGERS, RIGHT? SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE -- ONE

OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY HARD WHEN SOMEBODY MOVES INTO PSH IS NOT THAT THEY ARE JUST MOVING FROM HOMELESSNESS INTO HOUSING. IT IS ALSO THAT YOU HAVE TO ESTABLISH TRUST WITH THEM, RIGHT? IT IS REALLY HARD WHEN THEY MOVE

FROM STREET HOMELESSNESS INTO HOUSING TO GET THEM TO OPEN THE DOOR AND ENGAGE WITH YOU. YOUR FIRST TENANTS AREN'T GOING TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM. THEY ALREADY KNOW US. THEY ALREADY TRUST US. THEY ARE SELECTING TO COME HERE, RIGHT? WE SENT OUT AN INTEREST LETTER TO ALL OF OUR TENANTS AND SAID, HEY, IF THIS COMES TO FRUITION, WHO IS INTERESTED IN LIVING IN SEBASTOPOL? THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE PROJECT, RIGHT? HERE IS WHAT IT IS. WHO WANTS TO GO THERE? WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, HEY, I WOULD LOVE THAT, RIGHT? I WOULD LOVE TO LIVE IN SEBASTOPOL. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MY OWN UNIT. I WANT TO MEET NEW PEOPLE AND

LIVE AROUND PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE ME, WHO WANT TO ENGAGE WITH ME, SOMEWHERE I COULD HAVE ACCESS TO A CASE MANAGER SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. SO WE HAVE ON-SITE PROGRAMMING. WE OFFER A, AA AND NA CLASSES AS PREDICTLY AS CLASSES THAT THEY NEED. WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE COUNTY PROVIDER. HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION.

COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
YEAH. SO THANK YOU, KRIS FOR BREAKING IT DOWN. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE STABILIZED FOLKS THAN WHAT THE COUNTY PLACED AT ELDERBERRY, CORRECT? IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? WHEN I MEAN STABILIZE, I MEAN PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY ENGAGED WITH CASE MANAGER WHO HAVE WRAP-AROUND SERVICES? SO THEY'RE

GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE -- THE SELECTION COMPLIANCE WITH TENANT REGULATION. IS THAT WHAT I'M GETTING FROM YOU? THE FIRST GROUP THAT ARE GOING

TO BE MOVED IN ARE GOING TO BE STABILIZED COMING FROM OTHER LOCATIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY. IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT?
YES, THEY ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED TENANTS WITH US. THEY ALREADY KNOW US.

THEY KNOW OUR STAFF AND WHAT IS EXPECTED IN HOUSING. THEY'RE ALREADY USED TO US. WE DO SUPER FREQUENT INSPECTIONS IN PSH. WE FOUND IT'S REALLY HELPFUL IN

MAKING SURE PEOPLE MAINTAIN THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THEIR UNIT, SO THEY'RE USED TO THAT TOO. SO YEAH, I THINK THE FIRST TENANTS MOVING IN. THIS WOULD BE A FIRST FOR US, RIGHT? WE'VE NEVER DONE A BIG TRANSFER OF THIS MANY PEOPLE ALL AT ONCE. THE FIRST FOLKS MOVING IN WILL CERTAINLY BE -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY

ANYTHING BAD ABOUT SOMEBODY MOVING FROM STREET HOMELESSNESS INTO

HOUSING, BUT THEY WILL BE MORE USED TO LIVING IN HOUSING THAN SOMEBODY

COMING FROM CHRONIC STREET HOMELESSNESS INTO PERMANENT HOUSING FOR THE FIRST TIME.

GETTING TO WHAT THE MAYOR WAS REFERENCING. THERE HAVE BEEN VARIOUS

PROMISES ALONG THIS TRAJECTORY, MANY, MANY YEARS OF HAVING SOME OF OUR OWN Agenda Item Number 1
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FOLKS WHO HAVE FALLEN ON HARD TIMES FROM THE RIVER, FROM SEBASTOPOL. MY

UNDERSTANDING FROM HUNTER AND FROM NOLAN IS THEY'RE GOING TO BE SCREENED THROUGH LIKE THE BY NAMES COMMITTEE THAT HE'S SETTING UP IN SEPTEMBER. THAT'S GOING TO HELP POPULATE THE FOLKS COMING THROUGH COORDINATED ENTRY. IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT?
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YEAH, DEFINITELY. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON THE COMMENT YOU MADE JUST PREVIOUSLY. WHILE COTS HAS NOT HAD A BIG TRANSFER OF FOLKS

FROM ONE PROPERTY TO THE OTHER COORDINATED ENTRY HAS FACILITATED THOSE TYPES OF TRANSFERS. ONE JUST SIX MONTHS AGO. SO WE ARE VERY WELL EQUIPPED TO ASSIST WITH THAT TYPE OF TRANSFER. IN TERMS OF THE WEST COUNTY BY NAMES LIST.

IT IS FULLY UP TO COTS OF ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL TO MAKE THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA THAT'S ALLOWED PER FUNDING. A PART OF THAT CAN DEFINITELY BE THAT FOLKS NEED

TO BE ON THE WEST COUNTY BY NAMES LIST IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR A REFERRAL IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO WE WOULDN'T EVEN REACH OUT TO FOLKS WHO ARE NOT ON THAT

BY NAMES LIST TO ASK THEM IF THEY'RE INTERESTED, IF WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT ON

THAT LIST BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T ASK FOLKS THAT DON'T QUALIFY IF THEY WANT TO GO TO A PROJECT.

AND IS THAT WHERE THE CITY STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO SIT IN ON MEETINGS? I'VE

ATTENDED MANY MEETINGS AT THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH FOR US ELECTED, WHO ARE TRYING TO SORT THROUGH THE ISSUES. IS THAT WHEN MY REPLACEMENT WOULD BE INVITED TO ONE OF THE BY NAMES LIST? AT LEAST AT THE VERY BEGINNING

TO HEAR ABOUT THE GENERAL OVERVIEW OF WHO'S BEING CONTEMPLATED TO GO THROUGH THE SCREENING PROCESS, THE BY NAMES LIST. AND AT SOME POINT, WE WOULD BE EXCUSED AS WOULD LAW ENFORCEMENT.THEY WOULD BE EXCUSED, TO GET

INTO THE REAL CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION THAT NOBODY SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO EXCEPT FOR THE CLINICIAN. IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT?
THE NAMES ITSELF IS PERSONAL IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION. UNLESS YOU'RE ON THE

RELEASE OF INFORMATION, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO KNOW WHO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO I GUESS THEN WHERE WOULD WE, AS ELECTED, WHERE WOULD MY NEXT LIAISON, THE NEXT PERSON WHO TAKES MY POSITION. WHAT EXPECTATIONS WOULD THEY HAVE TO BE PART OF THIS PROCESS? SHOULD WE JUST ASSUME NO ONE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS?

IN TERMS OF SELECTING INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLDS TO MOVE IN, THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY UNUSUAL.

OKAY.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT THE JURISDICTIONS THAT WOULD DO THAT.

THAT WOULD BE VERY UNUSUAL.

THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. SO AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO GET AN ANSWER TO WHERE WOULD WE

HAVE WAY TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL MEETINGS AND DO A REPORT OUT OF

ATTENDING A BY NAMES LIST, AND THIS IS WHAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHEN AND HOW WOULD THAT HAPPEN?
YEAH. THOSE BY NAMES LIST MEETINGS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO NOLAN AND HUNTER ABOUT THE DETAILS OF WHO GETS TO GO TO THOSE. BUT LIKE YOU HAD JUST

ENVISIONED WHERE POLICE AND THE CITY COULD BE THERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING BEFORE THEY GET INTO NAMES. THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW THE OTHER MEETINGS ARE RUN ACROSS THE COUNTY.

OKAY, WE'LL WAIT FOR HUNTER TO COME AND DO HIS PRESENTATION AND ASK ABOUT THE BY NAMES. BACK TO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY. I'VE HEARD SOME INTREPIDATION.

WE HAVE ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER.

I'M SORRY.

WHO HAS MORE QUESTIONS. THEN I WANT TO GIVE ANOTHER --
SO SORRY. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. COUNCILMEMBER HINTON, GO AHEAD.

YEAH. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF GOING DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE HERE. I KNOW THAT -- LET'S BE BLUNT. THIS IS A 3-2 VOTE. AND I NEVER FELT THERE WAS A PROMISE TO THIS

COUNCIL THAT PEOPLE APPLYING FOR HOUSING WOULD EVER BE VETTED BY US, ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE NOT AND SHOULD NOT, IN MY OPINION, BE IN THE ROOM. I Agenda Item Number 1
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DO UNDERSTAND, AND I FELT LIKE THERE MIGHT BE -- WE MIGHT HAVE -- THEY KNEW WE

WANTED A LOCAL PREFERENCE, IF THAT WAS POSSIBLE WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THE LIST OF EVERYONE THAT QUALIFIED. BUT I JUST, AGAIN, WE'VE HAD A PRESENTATION, AND I

JUST WANT TO CALL IT OUT A BIT THAT I FEEL LIKE I DON'T WANT TO BE GRILLING OUR PARTNERS TONIGHT ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES. WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AS WELL, I BELIEVE. SO ANY WAY, I JUST -- I JUST NEED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S -- I'M JUST

SITTING HERE LISTENING TO THIS, AND I WANT TO DEFINITELY HAVE MY VOICE HEARD

AS WELL AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ON OUR COUNCIL, NOT JUST SOLELY FROM A SINGLE COUNCILMEMBER TONIGHT. I REALLY HAVEN'T HEARD FROM TWO OTHER PEOPLE ON THE DAIS.

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DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY? I MEAN, WE'RE IN QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. I DEFINITELY HAVE SOME COMMENTS. BUT DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN.

YES. SO BACK TO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR. THAT IS AGENDIZED. I UNDERSTOOD THE

AGENDA REVIEW MADE THAT DECISION TO HAVE THAT COME OUT TONIGHT WHEN ALL THE PARTNERS WOULD BE IN THE ROOM. SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR WHAT RESERVATIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT ADOPTING THE GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY. FOR THE

PUBLIC, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IF WE DO PASS THAT TONIGHT, IT WOULD NOT BIND THESE FOLKS. IT WOULD NOT. THE SHIP HAS ALREADY SAILED FOR THEM. BUT I

WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY HAVE CHALLENGES WITH, AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT TONIGHT.

DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT NOW OR WHEN IT COMES UP LATER? I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT NOW FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

COULD WE ASK IF YOU WILL BE HERE FOR THAT ITEM? ARE YOU STAYING FOR THAT ITEM? BECAUSE WE DO REALLY WANT THAT.

I COULD STAY. YEAH. WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU?
SURE.

YEAH, GREAT. THAT'S FINE.

OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE? OKAY. BECAUSE IF NOT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU GUYS CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE A SEAT.

I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD, LAUREN. DO YOU A QUICK COMMENT TO ADD?

YEAH, JUST ONE MORE BENEFIT OF COTS OPERATING THAT WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SAW POTENTIALLY AT ELDERBERRY. COTS BEING OPERATOR OF BOTH PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND SERVICE PROVISIONS. SO I THINK WHILE THERE WAS A

GREAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN WEST COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICES AND BURBANK ELDERBERRY, THAT IS NOTHING AGAINST EITHER OF THOSE ENTITIES. SOMETIMES THAT CAN CAUSE MORE TENSION. SO I THINK A STRENGTH OF THIS, WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT

GOING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION IS THAT COTS WILL BE OPERATING BOTH OF THOSE COMPONENTS. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AS A POTENTIAL DIFFERENCE AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. ARE WE GOOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
THANK YOU. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION ON ST.

VINCENTS DE PAUL AND GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS. IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S A TWO-MINUTE TIME LIMIT. WE DO CHAMBERS FIRST, THEN GO OUT TO ZOOM. OLIVER?
THANK YOU. DID I HEAR CORRECTLY THERE'S A FINANCIAL SHORT AND THEREFORE ST.

VINCENTS DE PAUL IS LIQUIDATING SOME OF THEIR EXISTING BUILDINGS? AND THEN

THEY'RE MOVING TENANTS FROM THOSE BUILDINGS INTO THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT IS READY? IT WASN'T VERY CLEAR ON THAT. AND THEN SECONDLY, DID HE SHOW UP? NO? OKAY. YEAH. AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN'S QUESTIONING BECAUSE THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAIL WITH THIS. PERSONALLY AS A CITIZEN WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE A VERY DETAILED PROJECT PLAN. ALL THIS LOOSEY

GOOSEY, STUFF DOESN'T FLY VERY WELL WITH ELDERBERRY COMMONS AND ALL THE Agenda Item Number 1
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POLICE THAT TO HAPPEN AND SO ON. SO RESPECT TO COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN FOR ASKING PERTINENT QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU, OLIVER. NEXT, I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. LEE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
YES.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU STILL SEE THE TIMER?
I CAN.

GREAT. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

UM -- COUNCILMEMBER HINTON SAID WE SHOULD JUST TRUST THE OPERATORS. GOING

BACK IN THE HISTORY OF THIS, AND I CAN'T EVEN GET ALL IT THIS STRAIGHT IN MY HEAD AS SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTED IN THEIR QUESTION. I'M VERY SURE THEY TOLD THUS WAS PLENTY OF MONEY FOR CONSTRUCTION, AND NOT TO WORRY. WE HEARD TONIGHT THERE IS NOT QUITE ENOUGH MONEY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. THEY ARE GOING WITH THE BACKUP PLAN, WHICH IS TO BORROW MONEY. THAT WAS THE

BACKUP PLAN BEHIND GRANTS FROM THE COUNTY, MONEY FROM THE ACTUAL GRANT, DONATIONS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO RECEIVE. THE CITY IS AT FINANCIAL RISK HERE.

IF THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY, AND THEY'RE NOW INTO A LOAN, THAT SORT OF

SOUNDS LIKE THE RISK METER SHOULD BE TICKING UP QUITE A BIT ON THE PART OF THE CITY AS WE LOOK AT THIS. IT WAS ALSO PROMISED WE'RE GOING TO GET HOMELESS OFF THE STREETS OF SEBASTOPOL WITH THIS PROJECT. WE'D BE ABLE TO DESIGNATE SOME PEOPLE FROM SEBASTOPOL WHO ARE HOMELESS AND GET THEM OFF THE STREETS. WE

WERE GOING TO HAVE A SAY OF WHO WOULD GO INTO THIS, THE CITY COULD PARTICIPATE IN THIS. NOW WE'RE HEARING THAT IS HIGHLY UNUSUAL. IT DOESN'T REALLY HAPPEN. I THINK I HAD A QUESTION IN MY MIND. WE ARE THE SPONSOR OF THIS, TOGETHER WITH ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL. WE HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME STANDING, SORT TO SPEAK IN THIS, AS THEY DO. IF THEY'RE IN MEETINGS, SHOULDN'T WE BE IN THE MEETINGS? LASTLY, STAFF AT THE TIME RECOMMENDED AGAINST THIS IN LARGE PART

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE ON STAFF THAT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THIS WITH THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE. BUT THE

COUNCIL, THREE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL PUSHED IT FORWARD, AND NOW THE CITY STAFF IS STUCK WITH IT. I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE NOW THAT THIS IS AN

ONGOING THING THAT THEY ARE OFFERING TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY STAFF. WHO ON THE CITY STAFF WILL THEY WORK WITH? WHO HAS THE CAPACITY? WHO HAS THE KNOWLEDGE TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT? ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND MAKE SURE THIS WORKS WELL? LASTLY --
LEE, THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE, COME UP TO THE PODIUM. SORRY, I'LL COME BACK. THAT'S OKAY. GO AHEAD.

HI, I'M KATHLEEN RUE. BUT I LIVE HERE IN SEBASTOPOL. I'M NOT SPEAKING AS AN OFFICIAL OF OF ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL. I'D EXCITED THAT COTS IS WILLING TO BE A PARTNER WITH ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL BECAUSE OF THE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY HAVE AND THAT IS WHAT WE DIDN'T HAVE WHEN WE STARTED THE COMMONS IN SANTA ROSA.

I THINK IT IS A REALLY GOOD STEP. THERE'S A MAN I'VE GOTTEN TO DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP WITH WHO IS UNHOUSED, AND HE IS HERE IN SEBASTOPOL. HE SAID HE HAS A SOCIAL WORKER. HE'S INTERESTED IN GETTING INTO THE NEW HOUSING. SO I AM

HOPING LIKE SOME OF YOU THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE FOLKS IN SEBASTOPOL WHO ARE EXPRESSING AN INTEREST TO GET INTO THE HOUSING. MY LAST

THING IS I'M REALLY PUSHING FOR GOOD SECURITY AND A HOUSE MANAGER THAT

REALLY STEPS UP FOR THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. SO YEAH. THANKS, YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
I CAN.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
NO, BUT YOU CAN LET ME KNOW.

OKAY, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

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I DON'T MIND DOING THE RESEARCH FOR YOU, BUT I WOULD HOPE COUNCILMEMBERS ACTUALLY COME PREPARED. BUT MAYBE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MISREPRESENT THE PAST. SO LET'S RETURN WITH WHAT THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL WERE TOLD WHEN GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS WAS FIRST APPROVED IN MAY 2023. ON MAY 16, STAFF REPORT

STATED, AND I QUOTE, THE HOMES WILL BE DEDICATED TO HOUSING THE HOUSELESS OF SEBASTOPOL. THIS WASN'T A VAGUE STATEMENT THAT THE PROJECT WOULD MERELY BE LOCATED IN SEBASTOPOL. IT DESCRIBES WHO THE PROJECT WAS INTENDED TO SERVE.

THE REPORT CONNECTED GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE DISPLACED FROM MORRIS STREET. THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO LOCAL HOMELESSNESS. THE PROJECT HAS CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY. ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL, NO LONGER EXPECTED TO OPERATE IT. COTS IS INVOLVED. THERE'S UNCERTAINTY HOW RESIDENTS WILL BE SELECTED. THE STATE AGREEMENT REQUIRES REFERRALS THROUGH COORDINATED

ENTRY, BUT IT DOES NOT ANSWER WHETHER THE ORIGINAL COMMITMENT TO

SEBASTOPOL'S UNHOUSED POPULATION REMAINS IN EFFECT, INCLUDING THE LATER REPORTED COMMITMENT OF EIGHT UNITS FOR FORMER HORIZON SHINE RESIDENTS. THE

PUBLICLY APPROVAL DOCUMENTS DOES NOT GIVE THE CITY THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE. PROVIDING OVERSIGHT, FINANCES, PROJECT MANAGEMENT, REPORTING, AND REGULATORY COMPLIANCE. THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS OVERSIGHT OF THE TENANT SELECTION POLICY. SO I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO ANSWER THESE THREE QUESTIONS.

FIRST, DOES THE ORIGINAL PROMISE THAT THESE HOMES WOULD BE DEDICATED TO SEBASTOPOL'S UNHOUSED POPULATION REMAIN OPERATIVE? SECOND, WHAT WRITTEN AGREEMENT BINDS COTS TO THAT PROMISE AND TO THE EIGHT-UNIT COMMITMENT?

THIRD, WILL THE CITY REQUIRE THE TENANT SELECTION PLAN ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA

AND REFERRAL PROCESS TO PRESENT, TO BE PRESENTED PUBLICLY BEFORE LEASE UP BEGINS? THIS ISN'T ABOUT CHOOSING INDIVIDUAL TENANTS. IT'S ABOUT ENSURING A

PROJECT APPROVED ON ONE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING IS NOT QUIETLY OPERATED UNDER A MATERIALLY DIFFERENT ONE.

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KYLE, YOU'VE GOT TEN SECONDS.

THAT IS SO FAMILIAR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF THERE IS ANYONE IN CHAMBERS. PLEASE?
THANK YOU, COTS, THANK YOU, COUNCIL. WHEN WE COME TO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR

POLICY, I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR TENANT INVOLVEMENT. BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT INPUT THE TENANTS CAN HAVE. I APPRECIATE THE LESSONS LEARNED AND THE MISTAKES MADE FROM THE PAST. BUT I WANT TO KNOW GOING FORWARD, WHAT MODELS CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IT IN TERMS OF TENANT PARTICIPATION? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. IF THERE

IS ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION FROM GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS? SEEING NONE. I'LL COME BACK INTO CHAMBERS. IF ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE. PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE BACK AT THE DAIS FOR COUNCIL COMMENTS. IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO FIRST? VICE MAYOR?
YES. I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL DIRECTOR AND THE COTS GROUP FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT WITH EACH OTHER. I'M REALLY EXCITED. I THINK THE

EXPERIENCE IS JUST OOZING OUT OF COTS, SO I'M REALLY, REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT PARTNERSHIP. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TO PRESENT TO US TONIGHT, AND BEARING WITH THE QUESTIONS AND THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS AS WELL. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? AM I MISSING ANYONE? OKAY.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE IN CHAMBERS.

I'M SORRY, COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN HAS HIS HAND UP.

NO, IT SOUNDS LIKE I WAS TALKING TOO MUCH. I WAS EXPECTING SOMEONE ELSE TO CHIME IN. NO ONE ELSE IS CHIMING IN.

I WILL AFTER YOU'RE FINISHED, SO GO AHEAD.

YEAH, BUT NO. I MEAN, I WAS VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED, SHOCKED, BUT PLEASANTLY SURPRISED THAT COTS WAS SELECTED AS THE OPERATOR. I DO HAVE A LOT Agenda Item Number 1
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OF CONFIDENCE IN KRIS, IN PARTICULAR, AND COTS BECAUSE KRIS IS BORN WITH ME

AFTER THE WHOLE FALLOUT AT ELDERBERRY, MANY, MANY COFFEES, MANY, MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE FACT THESE PEOPLE ARE VULNERABLE. I WISH THEY WERE ALL OFF ON OUR STREET OR ONE OF OUR OWN THAT HAS FALLEN ON HARD TIME. BUT THAT WAS NOT THE REPRESENTATION EARLY ON BY ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL. I'LL BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. THEY DID MAKE PROMISES, AND IT'S NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH

STATE LAW, AND HUNTER'S BACK THERE, AND HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT NONE OF THAT MADE ANY SENSE. THE FACT YOU CAN'T PROMISE ANYTHING THAT VIOLATES STATE LAW. STATE LAW REQUIRES THEM TO GO THROUGH COORDINATED ENTRY. BY NAMES LIST, ALL OF THAT. SO I'M REALLY SORRY BECAUSE ONE OPERATOR

COULDN'T GET IT TOGETHER THAT THIS COMMUNITY WENT THROUGH THE STRESS THAT IT DID. BUT NOW WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE CLEAR ON THE STATE REQUIREMENTS.

WE HAVE HUNTER. NOW WE HAVE KRIS, AND KRIS, I THINK WILL BE VERY ACCESSIBLE WHEN SHE SAYS SHE IS, SHE WILL BE. SO MARY, I THINK WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE

CONFIDENCE THAT WHEN SHE GETS MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS, NOT EVEN COMPLAINTS, BUT CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON. I SAW A MOVING TRUCK. I

KNOW, NOBODY REALLY WANTS TO FEEL, I THINK IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO SELECT PEOPLE. I THINK WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED AND CARE FOR THEM THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN, RESPECTING THEIR CONFIDENTIALITY RIGHTS, RIGHT? WE WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL. JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE FROM HABITAT. WE WANT THEM TO FEEL PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, RIGHT? BUT THERE IS THAT RESIDUAL CONCERN THAT

WE'VE BEEN PLACED IN SITUATIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN GREAT, NOT BEEN GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND CERTAINLY NOT GREAT FOR ANY OF US SITTING UP HERE, RIGHT?

SO I AM THRILLED THAT KRIS IS TAKING OVER, COTS IS TAKING OVER, AND I DO REALLY FEEL HOPEFUL OVERALL WITH THIS PROJECT. I THINK THE REST OF IT, AS FAR AS THE

TIMELINE, I REALLY AM HOPING THAT WHEN HUNTER COMES UP, HE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHEN THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WILL TAKE PLACE. WHEN THE BY NAMES LIST WILL ACTUALLY START HAPPENING IN THOSE MEETINGS. SO WHETHER IT IS ME OR

WHOEVER TAKES MY POSITION WILL KNOW AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, WHERE ARE WE INVITED TO? WHAT MEETINGS ARE WE INVITED TO? WHAT MEETINGS ARE WE NOT INVITED TO, SO WE CAN EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC. WE CAN ACTUALLY LISTEN AND TRY TO IMPLEMENT YOUR CONCERNS. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, AND I AM THRILLED. I'M REALLY VERY RELIEVED. WHEN I READ THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THEY WERE TAKING OVER. SO IT IS WEIRD IN AND OF ITSELF. BUT NONETHELESS, I AM DELIGHTED, SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

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ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. I HAVE SOME COMMENTS TO MAKE JUST REGARDING SOME OTHER COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE EARLIER. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS. IT WAS A DIVIDED COUNCIL ON THIS.WE DID HAVE -- WE HAVE HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN ELDERBERRY COMMONS. WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS. ELDERBERRY COMMONS IS MY NEIGHBOR. IT'S RIGHT IN THE SAME PARKING LOT. SO I HAVE HAD FRONT ROW SEAT TO WHAT HAS GONE ON THERE. WHEN YOU ASK ABOUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE LYING AROUND. THAT'S BECAUSE A WOMAN HAS LAID IN THE PARKING LOT AND

IN THE SIDEWALK FOR DAYS ON END, AND THE PEOPLE WHO MANAGE THAT PROPERTY SAYS IT IS NOT THEIR PROBLEM. WE SHOULD NOT TREAT HUMANS LIKE THAT. EVERYONE ELSE IS CALLING, TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF IT. BUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE RUNNING

THAT SITE WERE NOT TAKING CARE OF THOSE PEOPLE, AND THAT IS NOT HOW WE SHOULD TREAT PEOPLE. ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE COMING ARE NOT UNFOUNDED.

IT'S BECAUSE OF CONCERN BECAUSE OF THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE HAD. IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO BE ANYTHING, IT'S JUST BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE WE HAD.

AND NOT EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, PART OF ALL OF THIS. AND WE RECEIVE A LOT OF COMMUNICATION. I PERSONALLY HAVE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME DEALING WITH THE ELDERBERRY COMMON ISSUES. SO I THINK ALL OF THESE ARE

FOUNDED, AND I KNOW WE'RE DIVIDED, AND WE HAVE SOME OF US WHO HAVE GREAT

QUESTIONS, A GREAT AMOUNT OF QUESTIONS, AND I THINK WE ALL JUST DESERVE TO HAVE THAT VOICE. BECAUSE WE DON'T ALL AGREE ON THIS. WHILE, YOU KNOW, THE

DECISION WAS MADE, WE ALSO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE ELECTED TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS. AND TO TRY TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND MAKE Agenda Item Number 1
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CERTAIN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE BRINGING THERE ARE GOING TO

BE TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING AT ELDERBERRY COMMONS ALL THE TIME. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IS WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM. PEOPLE DO NEED TO BE TREATED APPROPRIATELY. AND I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH COTS. FOR ME, IT IS TRUST, BUT VERIFY. AND FOR THE FUTURE, I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE REPORTS ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING. I DO NOT LIVE IN THAT PARKING LOT LIKE I DO WITH THE OTHER PIECE.

AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT A FEW MEETINGS AGO, WE HAD A REPORT FROM THE POLICE CHIEF THAT AGAIN, ELDERBERRY COMMONS. 1% OF OUR POPULATION IS UTILIZING 25% OF OUR POLICE FORCE TIME. SO IT IS A VERY REAL CONCERN FOR OUR

COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE A VERY SMALL BUDGET, AND WE'RE VERY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONSTANTLY TIGHT WITH THAT. WE'VE HAD A FISCAL EMERGENCY. SO I JUST

WANTED TO SAY ALL OF THIS IS COMING FROM A PLACE OF WE ARE ALL ELECTED TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THE PRESENTATION. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE FROM MY SCREEN. MARY? Agenda Item Number 1
NO. THERE'S NO WIN ELSE ON COUNCIL. SO THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION FROM ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL AND COTS, AND ROBIN. WE CAN GO ONTO OUR NEXT ITEM.

PERFECT. SORRY. I CAN'T SEE EVERYTHING. IT'S A LITTLE BLURRY ON THE SCREEN. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ONTO ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE'RE GOING TO GO CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY.

GUIDELINES DESIGNED TO BALANCE DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS OPERATIONS, AND SOCIAL SERVICES WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THEY

ADDRESS NUANCES LIKE NOISE, TRASH, AND TRAFFIC, OFTEN REQUIRING BUSINESSES OR

SERVICE PROVIDERS TO IMPLEMENT SECURITY, CONTACT LINES, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO FOSTER ACCOUNTABILITY AND REDUCE CONFLICT. THE PROPOSED COUNTY STANDARDS ARE DUE TO BE APPROVED AFTER ONE MORE REVIEW. AND I THINK WHO IS DOING THIS? IT IS OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

YES, MAYOR. I CAN.

I'M SORRY, I CAN'T SEE YOU.

NO PROBLEM. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. SO AS MAYOR MENTIONED TO YOU TONIGHT,

IT'S AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY FOR OUR NEW AND FUTURE

CITY SPONSORED HOUSING THE COUNTY HOMELESS COALITION WAS WORKING ON BROADER STANDARDS FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FACILITIES. SO WE PAUSE THAT TO SEE WHAT THEY WOULD BE COMING UP WITH. THEY HAVE DRAFT POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN PREPARED. I WOULD SAY THOSE ARE MUCH BROADER AND COVER MUCH MORE ISSUES

THAN JUST SORT OF GOOD NEIGHBORS THAT ALSO DEAL WITH SORT OF THE WHOLE OPERATION OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FACILITY. THIS IS REALLY JUST FOCUSED ON THE INTERACTION WITH THE OUTSIDE COMMUNITY. YOU'VE HEARD

TONIGHT AND OTHER ITEMS ABOUT HOW DO WE DEAL WITH INTERNALLY WITH RESIDENTS AND HEARING THEIR COMPLAINTS. YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS ARE TENANTS AT THE FACILITY. THIS POLICY DOESN'T DEAL WITH THAT. THIS IS JUST ABOUT

EXPECTATIONS FOR INTERNAL, EXCUSE ME, EXTERNAL SORT OF OPERATIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS. IT APPLIES TO NEW CITY SPONSORED HOUSING PROJECTS. SO A

PROJECT IS CITY SPONSORED AND IF WE ARE CO-APPLICANT FOR SOMETHING LIKE WE ARE, LIKE WE WERE WITH GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS. WE WOULD REQUIRE THAT THEY AGREE TO THIS AS A CONDITION OF US BEING A COAPPLICANT. SIMILARLY IF EVER IN THE

FUTURE WE DECIDE TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO A PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WE

WILL BE REQUIRING THEM AS A CONDITION OF TAKING OUR FUNDING, AGREEING TO THESE POLICIES. AND THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE WE CAN IMPOSE IT. LIKE IF THERE IS A REQUEST FOR ZONING CHANGE OR SOMETHING TO ALLOW THAT.

BUT OTHERWISE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO IMPOSE THESE REQUIREMENTS OR PROJECTS, OR AT LEAST THE FULL RANGE OF PROJECTS. THAT'S OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF

OUR LAND USE AUTHORITY, WHICH AMONG OTHER THINGS REQUIRES US TO TREAT

THESE PROJECTS THE SAME AS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECT, THE SAME AS ANY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. SO WE CAN IMPOSE ADDITIONAL STANDARDS ON THAT. AND WE CAN'T REQUIRE MUCH OF WHAT WE WERE REQUIRING HERE FOR JUST A RUN OF THE MILL MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING PROJECT. THERE ARE SOME

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POINT OF CONTACT, YOU KNOW, ON SITE. WE COULD PROBABLY REQUIRE THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING TO DO THAT AS WELL. BUT THIS HAS OTHER REQUIREMENTS IN IT AS WELL. SO IT REQUIRES SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS DURING THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE AND DURING ACTIVITIES. IT REQUIRES -- EXCUSE ME, THE HOUSING PROVIDERS TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE RULES THEY REQUIRE THE TENANTS TO SIGN THAT. THAT IS VERY COMMON

REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT IS IN AN ORDINANCE OR NOT, AND TO DO AN ORIENTATION ABOUT THOSE RULES WITH TENANTS. BUT THE MORE DETAILED REQUIREMENTS WILL COME LATER ABOUT THE OPERATION. THE NEIGHBORHOOD PATROLS, HAVING THEM

PATROL THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO, YOU KNOW, FIND RESIDENTS THAT MAY BE

OBSTRUCTING SIDEWALKS OR, YOU KNOW, ENGAGING IN BEHAVIORS THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC OR ENCOURAGING THEM TO STOP OR COME BACK TO THE FACILITY. AND,

YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THEY ARE ALSO MAKING SURE THE PROJECT WILL BE KEPT CLEAN. AND THEN THERE IS ALSO SOME REQUIREMENTS ABOUT COMMUNITY

ENGAGEMENT, MAINTAINING CONTACT, PHONE NUMBER, E-MAIL, THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. ACKNOWLEDGING WHEN COMPLAINTS ARE RECEIVED. PROVIDING, YOU

KNOW, SORT OF DOCUMENTATION AND RECORDKEEPING ABOUT HOW COMPLAINTS ARE HANDLED IF THEY WERE ABLE TO BE ADDRESSED OR NOT. MAKING IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. AND THEN MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, EXCUSE ME, NOT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, BUT WITH AVAILABLE TO THE CITY UPON REQUEST. THESE STANDARDS ARE A MIX OF WHAT CATHOLIC CHARITIES. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT CATHOLIC CHARITIES HAS FOR THEIR RULES IN SANTA ROSA. THOSE WERE PRETTY GENERAL. SO IN LOOKING

FOR MORE SPECIFIC STANDARDS, SAN FRANCISCO HAS RECENTLY PUT FORWARD SIMILAR GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICIES FOR SOME OF ITS PROJECTS. SOME WILL RECEIVE FUNDING

FROM THE CITY, AND IN THAT CASE, IT IS MOSTLY SHELTERS, NOT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. WE USE THAT FOR A BASIS. BUT IT IS REALLY UP TO THE COUNCIL AND WHAT THEY WANT TO INCLUDE. THINGS, OF COURSE, I KNOW I HEARD FROM ONE

COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT CHANGES THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE, AND THAT IS ENTIRELY UP TO THE COUNCIL. SO WITH THAT, I'LL PAUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

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GO AHEAD COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
YEAH. FIRST, THANKS FOR PUTTING THE STAFF REPORT. THANKS FOR REFERENCING WHERE THIS IDEA CAME FROM FROM CATHOLIC CHARITIES. WHEN EVERYTHING

HAPPENED WITH ELDERBERRY COMMONS, IT WAS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF

CATHOLIC CHARITIES THROUGH ONE OF THE ELECTIVE MEETINGS TO JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, SORRY THAT ALL HAPPENED. BUT MOVING FORWARD, YOU COULD DO X. SO I JUST

WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO HER AND TO AT LEAST HAVING SOMETHING WE COULD MODEL AFTER. I THINK INCORPORATING THINGS FROM OTHER THAN MUNICIPALITIES.

SAN FRANCISCO WAS A GOOD THING. YOU REFERENCE THE COUNTY'S EFFORT AS A RESULT OF OUR CHALLENGES WITH ELDERBERRY. COORDINATED ENTRY REQUESTED THERE BE A PROVIDER MEETING TO DEVELOP PERMANENT SUPPORTING HOUSING. I'VE BEEN ATTENDING THEM EVERY MONTH, AS IS ROBIN, WHO IS OUR CONSULTANT. AND TODAY WAS THE FINAL MEETING. ROBIN ATTENDED, AND SHE CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. BUT THERE WERE NO FURTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. LIKE IT'S DOING AND NOW IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE HOUSING COALITION BOARD. THAT'S WHERE THINGS ARE.

SO I WANTED TO INFORM THE PUCK LICK THERE WILL NOW BE COUNTY GUIDELINES ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE TO FORWARD FOR. IN THE CITY, IN THE COUNTY. BUT IF WE'RE

GOING TO GET INTO QUESTIONS NOW, I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR

BECAUSE WHAT ROBIN DID, SHE TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT TO REVIEW ALL OF THE 25 PAGES. AND NOW I HAVE CONCERNS THAT IT APPEARS THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL, WHEN SHE SPOKE EARLIER, HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR. SO I WANT TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM BOTH OF THEM ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL'S MEALING ABOUT THIS. EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T BIND YOU TO IT, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE. THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO RELY ON YOU HAVE A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD. WHY IS THAT OPERATIONS NOT MOVING IN COORDINATION WITH WHAT YOU MISSED? I WILL LEAVE IT OVER TO WHOEVER WANTS TO ANSWER THAT.

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SO YOU CAN HAVE THEM UP AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION OUTSIDE OF PUBLIC COMMENT.

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OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING. I KNOW VICE MAYOR HAS A QUESTION TOO, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S RELATED?
GO AHEAD. SO WHICH COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS HAVE WEIGHED IN ON THE GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY? HAVE ANY TAKE HOLDERS TALK ABOUT IT?
NONE.

THE NEXT QUESTION, IF THERE ARE COUNTY GUIDELINES BEING DEVELOPED. WHY DO WE NEED THIS?
SO THAT IS WHY WE WAITED TO SEE THE COUNTY GUIDELINES ARE NOT THIS DETAILED.

THEY ARE MUCH BROADER, AND ARE -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY VAGUE. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY. THE LANGUAGE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT STAGE AND

COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT IS IN THE COUNTY GUIDELINE. SO YOU KNOW IT'S A LITTLE VAGUE IN TALKING. THERE ARE REAL THINGS IN

THERE, BUT SORT OF THE EXPECTATION THAT YOU WILL PATROL THREE TIMES A DAY LIKE VERY SPECIFIC THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN THOSE GUIDELINES. SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT THE LIST TOGETHER, BASED ON THE PRIOR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. AND THIS IS SENT TO ME BY A RESIDENT THAT THE

DETAILS IN THE GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY ARE KIND OF LOOKS LIKE HEIGHTENED SURVEILLANCE OF A PARTICULAR CLASS OF RESIDENTS. I'M WONDERING WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?
I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S A SURVEILLANCE OF THE RESIDENTS AT ALL. I THINK IT'S

EXPECTATIONS FOR THE HOUSING PROVIDERS ABOUT HOW THEY WILL OPERATE WITH REGARDS TO THE COMMUNITY. THERE IS NOTHING IN HERE ABOUT THEM HAVING TO TRACK WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT RESIDENTS ARE DOING 24/7. IT'S ABOUT SORT OF EXPECTATIONS, IF THE CITY DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD. EXPECTATIONS ABOUT HOW,

YOU KNOW, OPERATORS WILL ENGAGE WITH THEM, THE BROADER COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WITH QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN, YOU HAD QUESTIONS FROM ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL, IS THAT WHO YOU SAID? YEAH. WHOEVER WANTS TO RESPOND. BECAUSE AGAIN, MY FEELING WAS MAYBE I

MISINTERPRETED WHEN I BROUGHT UP THE GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY FROM I THINK THE NEW EXECUTIVE ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL. MY SENSE WAS THERE WERE OBJECTIONS. AND

IF THERE ARE OBJECTIONS TO WHAT IT IS THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT PASS, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THEM. I THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HEAR THEM. SO PLEASE? YEAH. I MEAN, I DIDN'T COME THROUGH THIS WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF IT. AND I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE IT IS IN MY PLACE, SINCE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE OPERATING TO THE SITE TO RESPOND TO IT. I MEAN, I THINK MOST OF WHAT IS OUTLINED IS REASONABLE. I THINK WHAT STOOD OUT TO ME IS IF WE

WERE PROPERTY MANAGING THE SITE, IT MIGHT BE THERE'S A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT WILL STAND OUT TO ME AS, YOU KNOW, ASKING A BIT MUCH OF THE PROVIDER. BUT I'LL LET CHRIS RESPOND.

BEFORE YOU MOVE ON. CAN YOU SPECIFY WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE?

I THINK JUST AROUND, YOU KNOW, MONITORING THE MULTIPLE -- WALKING THE PROPERTY AND THE ROUNDS THAT WERE OUTLINED IN THERE. I THINK THE SPECIFICATION OF NIGHTTIME?
YEAH.

AND I THINK IT CALLED OUT SPECIFIC QUANTITIES TWICE A DAY, DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME. I MEAN THE PROPERTY ITSELF, BUT NOT LIKE THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD JUST SEEMS A BIT EXCESSIVE.

HELLO. ME AGAIN. ATTORNEY BY TRAINING. SO EVERYTHING SEEMS VAGUE TO ME. SO

I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT I'M LIKE EITHER I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS OR NO, THAT'S TOO MUCH. AND I, LIKE LAUREN, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THIS POLICY. I SHARE SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS WITH COUNCILMEMBER MAURER THAT THIS DOES SEEM RELATIVELY TARGETED, RIGHT, TO PSH DEVELOPMENTS.

I UNDERSTAND MAYBE IT'S NOT SPELLED OUT AS THE INTENT, BUT THAT'S THE INTENT.

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BAD BEHAVIOR. THEY DON'T HAVE TENANT RIGHTS. IT IS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO EVICT SOMEBODY FROM PERM TENT MANY HOUSING. SO I DO WANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION. IT IS ALSO MUCH MORE DAMMING TO SOMEONE, LIKE THEIR LIVELIHOOD AND THEIR ABILITY TO REMAIN SAFETY TO ACTUALLY EVICT THEM. YOU WOULDN'T

NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS IF THERE WERE STRONGER PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN PROVIDERS, CITIES, AND COUNTIES. THEY WERE BETTER FUNDED TO DO THIS WORK, RIGHT? THE WORK ITSELF IS VERY CHALLENGING. A LOT OF THE LANGUAGE IN HERE, LIKE UNDER RESIDENTS, RULES, EXPECTATIONS. THAT'S JUST STANDARD STUFF THAT'S IN A LEASE, RIGHT? SO I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT BEING IN HERE. I DO

THINK PATROLLING A SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH FUNDING IN PROJECTS TO DO THAT. 24/7 SECURITY. YOU KNOW, SECURITY'S $45, $55 AN HOUR.

THERE'S NO FUNDING IN PROJECTS FOR SECURITY TO RUN 24/7. IT JUST DOESN'T EXIST.

SUPER EASY TO HAVE SECURITY FILL IN. SUPER EASY TO HAVE A PROPERTY MANAGER DO PERIMETER CHECKS. NO PROBLEMS AT ALL. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I DON'T KNOW IF IT MEANS A BLOCK, THAT WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. I WOULD SAY MOVING

LITTER AND DEBRIS, MAYBE WITH THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY, IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE LIQUOR STORE. NOT EVERY PIECE OF DEBRIS THAT COMES FROM THE AERIAL LIKE THAT WILL LIVE ON THIS SITE. I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING UP TRASH THAT BELONGS TO ANOTHER BUSINESS. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE ODD TO HAVE SOMETHING THEY WOULD CAUSE IT. THIS PROJECT IS PRETTY SMALL. IF THE

CITY JUST CALLS ME AND SAID, HEY, IF YOU GET INTO SUPER BIG PROJECTS, WHICH SEBASTOPOL WON'T. YOU'RE A SMALL CITY. BUT THAT COULD BE CHALLENGING DOWN THE ROAD. AND I WOULD REQUEST ANY TIME YOU SAY 24 HOURS, 72 HOURS, 48 HOURS

THAT YOU SAY BUSINESS HOURS BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE A THREE-DAY HOLIDAY WEEKENDS. THOSE ARE KIND OF MY NOTES ON THIS. BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS WOULD

BE RESOLVED WITH A STRONG PROVIDER THAT ACTUALLY DOES GOOD PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. EVICT PEOPLE WHEN THEY NEED TO BE EVICTED, KEEPS THE PROPERTY CLEAN, STAYS IN GOOD CONTACT WITH THE CITY. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT HOMELESSNESS TO BECOME A POLITICAL ISSUE. WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT

VULNERABLE PEOPLE, AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE TO LIVE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SAFE.

Agenda Item Number 1
GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, ALEX.

YEAH. YOU'RE GETTING TO SOMETHING THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT. IF THIS POLICY IS

UNNECESSARY TO WHAT YOU ARE ALREADY DOING, WE JUST NEED THE GUARANTEES

THAT SOME OF THE THINGS ARE HAPPENING THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO KEEP THE WATCH OUT, WALK AROUND, MAKE SURE THE PLACE IS CLEAN. YOU'RE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. AND YOU SEEM LIKE A VERY GOOD OPERATOR. WHAT KIND OF THINGS DOES THE CITY HAVE TO KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING THESE?
YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, RIGHT? IT'S NOT BENEFICIAL FOR ANYBODY TO BE A BAD NEIGHBOR. WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THE CITY, TO OUR ACTUAL NEIGHBORS, TO THE BUSINESSES. WE JUST WANT IT TO BE GOOD FOR EVERYBODY, RIGHT? SO WE DO HAVE ON-SITE STAFF ALL THE TIME. WE ARE ACCESSIBLE AND AVAILABLE. PRETTY MUCH ANY PROVIDER THAT'S USED TO WORKING WITH ME. THERE'S SEVERAL IN THIS ROOM. THEY KNOW IF THEY CALL ME AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING, I MIGHT NOT ANSWER THE FIRST TIME YOU CALL. BUT IF YOU CALL RIGHT BACK, I'M GOING TO ANSWER, RIGHT? I AM SOMEBODY WHO IS DEDICATED MY CAREER AND MY LIFE TO HELPING PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS SITUATION. AND I ALSO

UNDERSTAND AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PROVIDERS LIKE COTS ARE NOT JUST HERE TO SERVE PEOPLE THAT COME TO US FOR HELP. WE ARE ALSO HERE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY MORE BROADLY, RIGHT? COMMUNITIES ARE BETTER WHEN FEWER PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. THEY ARE BETTER WHEN PEOPLE HAVE PLACES TO LIVE, AND WE WANT TO MAKE IT A GOOD EXPERIENCE. WHAT I CAN PROMISE THE CITY IS THAT COTS IS SUPER RESPONSIVE. THERE'S GOING TO BE ISSUES THAT COME UP. THERE ARE GOING TO BE THINGS THAT WILL COME UP. MY PROMISE TO YOU IS WE WILL WORK

ALONGSIDE YOU AND REALLY QUICKLY TO RESOLVE AND ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES IN THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN. WE WANT TO HAVE A GOOD FRIENDLY PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING WHERE YOU'RE LIKE THIS WAS TERRIBLE. WE DON'T LIKE COTS, RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT THAT FOR ANYBODY. THAT I CAN PROMISE Agenda Item Number 1
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YOU. I CERTAINLY CAN'T PROMISE YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO SEE A PIECE OF TRASH ON THE SIDEWALK OR WE'RE NEVER GOING TO HAVE A TENANT THAT CAUSES PROBLEMS. I THINK THAT'S TRUE FOR ANY MULTI-PROPERTY UNITS. YOU'LL HAVE TENANTS THAT ARE

DIFFICULT, BUT WE'RE DO OUR ABSOLUTE BEST TO MAKE IT A GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYBODY.

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OKAY, THANK YOU. GOOD COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN.

YES, A QUESTION TO ALEX. SO COULD WE JUST POSTPONE THIS? WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO DO TO POSTPONE THIS? BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE COTS WITH WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND THEIR TRACK RECORD, AND MY RELATIONSHIP WITH KRIS. A GO WITH THIS WITHOUT FEELING THERE'S UNNECESSARILY RESTRAINED. BUT ALSO I HEAR THE MAYOR, THE FACT SOME DON'T KNOW YOU AND IT IS TRUST, BUT VERIFIED. SO COULD WE JUST NOT CONTINUE THIS UNTIL WHEN IS THE OPEN DATE AGAIN, JANUARY? NOW WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? NOVEMBER. SO COULD WE NOT JUST CALENDAR THIS N I DON'T KNOW, WHENEVER MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO RECALENDAR IT? ABSOLUTELY. IT'S UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL, AND IF YOU COULD TABLE THE ITEM OR JUST CONTINUE IT TO A SPECIFIC DATE IN THE FUTURE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL FOR ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE? I HAVE ONE. I MEAN AS WE WERE TALKING

ABOUT THE GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD POLICIES AND WHO SAT IN THE ROOM WITH FOLKS WHO WERE RUNNING ELDERBERRY COMMENT, AND LISTENING TO THEM. TELLING THEM WE DON'T NEED SECURITY, WE DON'T NEED THIS, WE DON'T NEED THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME HEARING 25% OF OUR POLICE TIME HAS BEEN SPENT AT ELDERBERRY COMMONS, AND IT WAS MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT WHEN IT FIRST OPENED. THEY TOLD

US EVERY SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECT HAS A REAL INCREASE IN POLICE ACTIVITY IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS. THEY TOLD US THAT. THE FOLKS WHO RUN THAT AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THAT. I SAT THERE AND LISTENED TO THEM. I WANT TO

KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT BACK AT CITY HALL, LISTENING TO THE SAME STORY AGAIN. AND THEN WE'RE HAVING TO ANSWER TO OUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT WHY, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE ARE SO BUSY.

THEY CANNOT RESPOND TO OTHER PLACES BECAUSE SO MUCH TIME IS BEING SPENT IN

OTHER FACILITIES THAT SAID THEY DIDN'T NEED ANY SECURITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE HAS GOOD INTENTIONS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY.

THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS, AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO TRUST, BUT I NEED TO VERIFY BECAUSE I SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME DEALING WITH THIS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO THERE WE ARE. SO THAT'S WHAT -- I DON'T KNOW, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS FORWARD? WE'RE DUE TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THAT RIGHT?
YES. I WAS JUST GOING TO JUMP IN TO LET YOU KNOW WE NEED TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU, YOU GUYS CAN GO AHEAD AND SIT DOWN. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD POLICY PROPOSED. IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, AGAIN, IT'S TWO MEMBERS. WE GO TO CHAMBERS FIRST.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD PRETTY SLICK PRESENTATIONS LIKE THAT BEFORE. WHO STOOD HERE VERY CONFIDENTLY TELLING EVERYBODY HOW GREAT IT WAS ALL GOING TO BE. SMOOTH. BUT IT HAS CHANGED ALL THE TIME. SO I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN WHAT IS BEING DISCUSS TODAY WITH THESE PEOPLE. BUT WHO KNOWS. THEY MIGHT NOT BE, SO THAT IS MY FIRST POINT. I GUESS MY OTHER BOY, THIS HAS WORKED PRETTY WELL IN SAN FRANCISCO. THEY HAD TO TIGHTEN UP THE GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. OBVIOUSLY SAN FRANCISCO IS A BIG COMPLICATED CITY. BUT SEBASTOPOL IS TINY. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THIS REALLY WELL. THIS IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY GIVEN THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC AND SO ON. VERY CONSISTENT, BY THE WAY, CITIES HAVE BEEN HANDLING THESE KINDS OF CIVIC PROBLEMS, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT, I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

THANK YOU.

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GREAT, I WAS STRUCK BY A COMMENT OR ONE OF THE SPEAKERS THAT THERE IS NO REAL MONEY IN 24 SECURITY. AND I HOPE THESE FOLKS WILL UNDERSTAND IT. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK A CITY LIKE SEBASTOPOL, JUST LOADED WITH BUCKS. WE'VE GOT POLICEMEN CRAWLING OUT OF THE WOODWORK. IF BE WE NEED A FEW MORE POLICE CALLS AT ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL OR AT SEBASTOPOL OR WHATEVER THOSE COMMONS IS, GRAVENSTEIN COMMONS. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. IT IS A PROBLEM THOUGH. 25% OF OUR POLICE CALLS ARE NOW GOING TO ONE PLACE IF IT DOUBLES, AND WE HAVE 50% OF OUR POLICE CALLS GOING HERE. WE EITHER HAVE TO HIRE A COUPLE MORE POLICEMEN, WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE OR WE HAVE TO STOP PATROLLING. WE HAVE TO STOP DEALING, YOU KNOW, WITH PROBLEMS WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. I MEAN, RESOURCES HAVE TO BE SHIFTED AWAY FROM THINGS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS SOME OF US ARE REALLY UPSET ABOUT THAT. I HOPE THE SPEAKERS CAN UNDERSTAND THIS. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I'LL COME INTO CHAMBERS. IF ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ITEM?
ME AGAIN. I'LL MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT. I KNOW I WAS HERE BEFORE, AND TENANTS

AT ONE OTHER HOUSING UNIT HAD SAID IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THEM TO HAVE SOME KIND OF SECURITY. AND I UNDERSTAND THE FUNDING ISSUE WITH SECURITY. I AM HOPING A REALLY GOOD PROPERTY MANAGER WILL BE HIRED. SOMEONE WHO IS TRAUMA INFORMED. SOMEONE WHO IS WILLING TO GO OUT AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING AND

DEAL WITH ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP OR GETTING FENTANYL OFF THE PROPERTIES WHEN THEY SHOW UP. BECAUSE AT ONE OF OUR SITES, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. A LOT OF THE TENANTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. SO I, AGAIN, WANT TO SUPPORT YOU AND ENCOURAGE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS ON. YEAH.

THANKS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM. ROB, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
HI, YEAH. I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. ONE IS HOW IS THIS PROGRAM BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THE LIQUOR STORE THAT'S NEXT DOOR? I THINK IT'S FUNNY THERE'S A LIQUOR STORE NEARBY ALL THESE PLACES. I'M SURE THEY GET INCREASED FOOT TRAFFIC, AND IT'S A PROBLEM THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH. SO I'M WONDERING HOW

DO WE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY NO IF THEY THINK SOMEONE SHOULDN'T HAVE IT. HOW DO WE SUPPORT THEM IN DOING THAT? AND

THEN THE OTHER ONE IS JUST ABOUT THE -- I'M SORRY, NOT ABOUT THE FOOT TRAFFIC, BUT THE INCREASED PATROLS. I KEEP HEARING ABOUT A CITIZENS POLICE SOMETHING OR ANOTHER. NOT OFFICERS, BUT SOME KIND OF CITIZENS TRAINING. AND YOU KNOW, THEY KEEP GETTING SHELLED FOR A LOT OF REASONS. BUT WOULD THAT BE APPLICABLE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE. I'LL GO BACK OUT TO ZOOM. IF ANYONE ON

ZOOM WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM TO PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE, THERE IS NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. PARDON PAR VERYVERY MUCH. OH, VICE MAYOR MAURER?

I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN FOR SUGGESTING WE POSTPONE THIS ISSUE. I AGREE WITH THAT. I'M GOOD WITH TABLING IT. AND I THINK THAT IF WE WANT ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL TO ACTUALLY SIGN ON AND NOT HAVE IT JUST BE A POLICY THAT NOBODY SIGNS ON TO. WE SHOULDN'T MAKE EDITS AND WORK WITH THEM, AND THEY COULD WORK WITH COTS TO MAKE EDITS THAT MAKES SENSE. BECAUSE WE WANT THEIR BUY IN TO IT IF WE'RE GOING TO PASS IT. SO MY HOPE IS IN THE MEANTIME BETWEEN NOW AND WHENEVER WE BRING IT BACK THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT COLLABORATION.

THANK YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. YEAH, IF THAT'S THE MOTION. I'LL SECOND IT.

THANK YOU.

CAN I JUST CLARIFY? I HEARD TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO COME BACK AT A FUTURE DATE? I THINK COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN HAD MENTIONED NOVEMBER OR JANUARY? OR DO YOU WANT TO TABLE IT?
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NO. BRING IT BACK. BUT MEANWHILE COLLABORATE WITH ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL AND COTS ON THE LANGUAGE. AND MAKE SURE WHATEVER IT IS THEY'RE WILLING TO SIGN ONTO IT.

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IS THAT DIRECTING CITY STAFF TO DO THAT OR OUR LIAISON WHO IS COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN AND STAFF? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, SO WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

WE COULD JUST PICK A DATE, AND THEN THAT WAY WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE STRIVING TOWARDS. HOPEFULLY, YES, OUR TWO PARTNERS, ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL AND

COTS CAN START LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE AND SUGGESTING THE LANGUAGE TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY FOR WHEN WE BRING IT BACK. SO IT'S A SITE YOU DO A GENDER REVIEW WITH THE GENDER REVIEW PEOPLE. WHAT DATE DO YOU THINK WOULD BE GOOD? I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE A ROUGH DATE ON DECEMBER OR JANUARY OR SOMETHING. I'LL DEFER TO YOU.

SO NOW I'M HEARING TWO DAYS. I'M NOW HEARING JANUARY, FEBRUARY TIME FRAME.

JANUARY.

JANUARY?
THAT WOULD GIVE EVERYBODY A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

OKAY. I'M SEEING THUMBS UP IN THE AUDIENCE, SO JANUARY THEN.

OKAY, THANK YOU. SO MOVED BY VICE MAYOR MAURER.

OH WAIT. UNDERSTAND COHINTON HAS HER HAND UP.

I'M SORRY.

I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE COMMENT. I MEAN, I -- I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS TONIGHT TO COME BACK. I'M JUST NOT SURE AT THIS POINT IT'S NECESSARY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.

COUNCILMEMBER CARTER HAS HIS HAND UP AS WELL?
YEAH, I'M LEANING THAT WAY A LITTLE BIT TOO. WHEN THE PROBLEM REEMERGES.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE STABLE. I'M IN SUPPORT OF BRINGING IT BACK. IF WE'RE ALL GOING TO WEIGH IN HERE BEFORE WE ACTUALLY TAKE A VOTE.

SO BECAUSE THERE'S TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT IN SUPPORT OF MOVING THIS FORWARD AND ARE WILLING TO TABLE IT. I AM GOING TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

OKAY. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION, AND WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES TO BRING

IT BACK IN JANUARY, AND FOR OUR TWO PROVIDERS, PARTNER PROVIDERS TO REVIEW

IT, SUGGEST COMMENTS, AND BRING IT BACK AT A DATE IN JANUARY EITHER THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETING OF JANUARY. SO THAT'S THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. SO MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN AND SECONDED BY MAYOR

MCLEWIS TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO EITHER THE FIRST OR THIRD MEETING IT IN JANUARY 2027, AND ALLOWING OUR PARTNER PROVIDERS TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE EDITS TO THE CITY. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER?
NO.

COUNCILMEMBER HINTON?
NO.

COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN?
YES.

VICE MAYOR MAURER?
NO.

MAYOR MCLEWIS?
YES.

THE MOTION FAILS WITH COUNCILMEMBER ZOLLMAN AND MAYOR MCLEWIS IN

SUPPORT, AND COUNCILMEMBERS CARTER, HINTON, AND VICE MAYOR MAURER IN OPPOSITION.

OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TEN --
ACTUALLY, CARTER HAS HIS HAND UP.

YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS. DOES THAT AUTOMATICALLY TABLE THE ITEM OR WHAT HAPPENS?
UNLESS THERE'S A FURTHER MOTION TONIGHT, THE ITEM IS DEAD.

OH, OKAY.

SO SOMEONE COULD MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT AND BRING IT BACK AT A LATER DATE, IF NECESSARY.

NO?
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NO. THAT WAS WHAT WAS JUST
Agenda Item Number 1
-- GO AHEAD, ALEX.

SO THAT WAS THE MOTION TO BRING IT BACK IN THE FUTURE. YOU COULD ALWAYS IN

THE FUTURE HAVE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO BRING THIS BACK IF CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHY I WITHDREW MY MOTION. THAT'S BECAUSE THERE

WERE TWO MEMBERS THAT WERE NOT IN SUPPORT, AND BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT WOULD TAKE STAFF TIME AND COTS TIME AND ST. VINCENTS DE PAUL TIMES TO DO ALL THAT WORK. THAT'S WHY I WITHDREW MY MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. SO ITEM NUMBER 10, PRESENTATION FROM HEART/SOUL, SOLVING

OBSTACLES FOR UNSHELTERED LIVES AND WEST COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICES ON

SERVICES PROVIDED FOR HOMELESS SERVICES AND CONSIDERATION OF CONTRACTS FOR HOMELESS OUTREACH SERVICES. THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, MOU OF UNDERSTANDING WITH HEART EXPIRES SEPTEMBER 16, 2026, AND THE CONTRACT WITH WCCS EXPIRED JUNE 30, 2026. THE ITEM TONIGHT IS TO CONSIDER AGREEMENTS WITH THE FOLLOWING. A, DRAFT A CONTRACT WITH SOUL. THIS ITEM WILL BE RETURNED TO A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR APPROVAL. DRAFT MOU IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. HEART WILL CONTINUE TO PERFORM SERVICES UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THE CONTRACT IS RETURNED FOR FORMAL APPROVAL AND/OR ADOPTION. TENTATIVELY SEPTEMBER 15. B, APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION/CONTRACT WITH WCCS, OR C, OTHER DIRECTION TO STAFF. I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO OUR POLICE CHIEF. IS HE IN THE ROOM?
HE IS.

PERFECT. HI.

HELLO. SO I THINK YOU PRETTY MUCH SUMMED IT UP, MAYOR MCLEWIS, THAT WE'VE

GOT A PRESENTATION TONIGHT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES AND WEST COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICES, REGARDING THE HOMELESS OUTREACH SERVICES.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HUNTER TO KICK IT OFF. NO? CHRISTY? OKAY. DO WE HAVE THE POWERPOINT SLIDES? IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO SHARE?
MAY I ASK A QUESTION. DO WE HAVE MULTIPLE PRESENTATIONS HERE, CHIEF? HOW ARE WE?

ONE FROM WEST COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICES AND ONE FROM SONOMA COUNTY, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES.

OKAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SINCE YOU SWITCHED AROUND.

DID YOU SUBMIT THE SLIDES? I KNOW WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION IN THE REPORT, THE PRESENTATION IS IN THE REPORT ITSELF.

IT COULD BE A COMBINED PRESENTATION. IS THAT RIGHT?
YEAH. IT'S FINE IF WE DON'T. OKAY. WE WERE GOING TO SHARE JUST THE HISTORY OF

THE SERVICES IN SEBASTOPOL OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, AND HOW THE SERVICES

WITH WEST COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICES TO PROVIDE OUTREACH IN SEBASTOPOL REALLY A ROSE FROM THE NEED THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD ON THE TRAIL. AND THEN ALSO THE PARKING ON MORRIS STREET AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF SEBASTOPOL. THE

CITY WAS LOOKING FOR A RESPONSE, AND CONTRACTED FOR A FULL-TIME OUTREACH PERSON IN THE FIRST YEAR WITH US. THEN IN THE FOUR YEARS FOLLOWING, WE

CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SERVICES, ALTHOUGH THE SHIFT OF FOCUS CHANGED AS THE COMMUNITY NEEDS CHANGED. AND FUNDING WAS REDUCED TO PART TIME, AND WE APPLIED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO CONTINUE FULL-TIME SUPPORT HERE. OUR CONTRACT DID END AT THE END OF JUNE. THE SECOND SLIDE WAS LOOKING AT, OH, THERE WE ARE. LOOKING AT THE DATA POINTS OVER THE FIVE YEARS. AND THE FIRST

HIGHLIGHT OF THE DATA BECAUSE THE SERVICES, THE FOCUS SHIFTED BASED ON THE NEEDS.YOU KNOW, WE WERE REALLY CAPTURING UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE WERE CONNECTING WITH. BUT THE DATA CHANGED. WHAT WE WERE REPORTING CHANGED AS OUR SERVICES CHANGED. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING I JUST WANTED TO CALL ATTENTION TO IN THAT SLIDE. THE BIGGER POINT THAT I NEED TO ADDRESS. THE 25/26 REPORTING.

AND REALLY JUST ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR REPORTING LAST YEAR. IN

SPRING, I WAS LOOKING AT THE REPORT, AND WE WERE REPORTING ON HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS WERE ACTIVE IN COORDINATED ENTRY EACH MONTH. AND THE YEAR-TODATE TOTAL REALLY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION BECAUSE IT WAS PRETTY BIG. SO I Agenda Item Number 1
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STARTED LOOKING INTO IT, AND IT WAS REALLY A RESULT OF TWO THINGS OF ERROR

AND MY SPREAD SHEET THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO REPORT ON THE YEAR-TO-DATE TOTALS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ENROLLED IN COORDINATED ENTRY. THEY MAINTAINED STATUS, AND SOME PEOPLE WERE EXITED. SO REALLY THE MONTHLY COUNT IS THE NUMBER WE'RE REPORTING. THERE ISN'T A YEAR TO DATE OF ACTIVE PEOPLE. THE SECOND FACTOR WAS OUR STAFF HAS BEEN OVERREPORTING. I WAS HAVING REPORTS PULLED, AND I WAS LOOKING DEEPLY INTO THAT TO CORRECT THAT ERROR. I CONTACTED THE CITY. I RESUBMITTED REPORTS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ONE OTHER DATA POINT THAT SOME QUESTION. I WAS ASKING QUESTIONS MYSELF TO GET DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THINGS. AND IT WAS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT MOVED INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. UNFORTUNATELY THE STAFF THAT WE HAD UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE I CAN'T GET ANSWERS FROM THEM ANYMORE. WHAT I DID

DISCOVER IS OUR OUTREACH WAS USING THE COUNTY TRACKING SYSTEM, THE HMIS,

BUT ALSO KEEPING THEIR OWN INFORMAL LOG OF CONTACTS THEY WERE MAKING, SERVICES THEY WERE PROVIDING THAT WEREN'T BEING RECOGNIZED IN EACH HMIS. AND I HEARD JILL SAY EARLIER, TRUST, BUT VERIFY. THE VERIFICATION WASN'T HAPPENING WITH THE DIRECT SUPERVISION. AND SO REALLY, AT THIS POINT, I PROVIDED THE NUMBERS FOR 25/26 BECAUSE THOSE WERE THE NUMBERS THAT WERE REPORTED. I WANTED TO ADDRESS IT TONIGHT. AND SOME OF THE NUMBERS, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO. TO BE EQUALLY FAIR UNFORTUNATELY. I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY DISAPPOINTING FOR ME. WE KNOW THE SERVICES WERE BEING PROVIDED, AND THEY WEREN'T REPORTED CORRECTLY. I DON'T THINK IT WAS INTENTIONAL, MISREPRESENTATION. I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF OVERSIGHT, AND A LACK OF

UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE NUMBERS MEANT, LIKE WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO CAPTURE IN THIS REPORT. AND I WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY THAT IT IS OUR

RESPONSIBILITY TO TIGHTEN UP THE COMPLIANCE OF REPORTING TO HAVE THE

OVERSIGHT, AND TO HAVE CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT THEY'RE COUNTING AND WHY THEY'RE COUNTING IT. SO I JUST -- I HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND OWNERSHIP OF

THIS, AND UNFORTUNATELY I JUST DON'T HAVE THE ACCURATE NUMBER FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE DID MOVE INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. THE LAST SLIDE, SUCH A JARRING TRANSITION. IT'S AN ACTUAL SUCCESS STORY OF A COUPLE THAT WE DID PROVIDE SERVICE. AND I THINK THE SUCCESS STORY REALLY JUST HIGHLIGHTS THE

LONG GAME OF OUTREACH THAT IT REALLY TAKES TIME TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, TO HELP THEM START GETTING ENGAGED WITH RECEIVING SERVICES. TO GET THE DOCUMENTS READY. TO HELP THEM BE PREPARED TO MOVE INTO HOUSING. AND FOR

THIS COUPLE, IT TOOK A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THEY ARE NOW MOVING INTO GEORGE'S PLACE THAT HAS OPENED IN GUERNEVILLE JUST LAST MONTH. YEAH. SO I AM NOT SURE

HOW THIS STRUCTURE IS, IF YOU WANT ME TO STAY HERE FOR QUESTIONS FOR THIS PART? MOVE TO HUNTER, THEN COME BACK TO QUESTIONS?
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I THINK WE WANT TO GO TO HUNTER TO DO HIS PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

HI, Y'ALL. HUNTER SCOTT. YOU RECENTLY KNEW ME FROM WHEN I WORKED FOR HOME FIRST, HAVE MY PARTNERS HERE. I NOW WORK FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES. I'M THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR HOMELESSNESS SERVICES. SO IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE IN THIS NEW CAPACITY. RECOGNIZING THESE PRESENTATIONS ARE TO BE TEN MINUTES. I'M GOING TO SPEED THROUGH THIS. BUT THERE WILL BE TIME FOR QUESTIONS OBVIOUSLY. SO ABOUT IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WE STARTED A REALLY

WONDERFUL NEW OUTREACH PILOT WITH THE CITY OF SEBASTOPOL AND THE POLICE

DEPARTMENT WITH A GOAL OF MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE, PAIRING OUTREACH

WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE, AND MORE ACCURATELY TO REALLY REPLACE OUTREACH WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE, WHERE THAT IS APPROPRIATE. AND

CREATE PATHWAYS TO SERVICES WAS THE GOAL OF INCREASING COORDINATION

AROUND HOMELESSNESS, AND HELPING PEOPLE MOVE FROM CONTACTS TO MEANINGFUL SERVICE. NEXT SLIDE. SO SOME OF THE DATA WE ACHIEVED TO DATE, AND WE HAVE WONDERFUL STAFF NAMED JULIAN WHO HAS TAKEN THIS ROLE ON IN THE CITY. HE'S ENGAGED 67 PEOPLE, 30 OF THOSE ARE ACTIVE COORDINATED ENTRIES, MADE 12 SHELTER PLACEMENTS, AND MOVED THREE FOLKS INTO HOUSING. IT DOES TAKE TIME Agenda Item Number 1
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TO BUILD RELATIONSHIP WITH FOLKS. SO WE EXPECT THOSE NUMBERS TO INCREASE PER Agenda Item Number 1
TIME PERIOD IF THAT MAKES SENSE AS THIS PROJECT DEPOSE ON. NEXT SLIDE? CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION?
YES.
67 PEOPLE ENGAGED. IS THAT WITHIN THE SEBASTOPOL CITY LIMITS OR IS THAT OUTSIDE OF SEBASTOPOL?
SEBASTOPOL. WELL, HE'S PROBABLY GOING A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE. YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT

DOING THE ENTIRE TRAIL, BUT PROBABLY GOING A LITTLE BIT DOWN THE TRAIL BECAUSE PEOPLE DO MOVE IN AND OUT. BUT HIS FOCUS HAS BEEN SEBASTOPOL.

THOSE ARE 67 DIFFERENT PEOPLE?
CORRECT.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE BIG LEARNINGS AFTER WHEREVER WE ARE. EIGHT MONTHS OF

DOING THIS IS WE HAVE A PARTNER ORGANIZATION THAT YOU ARE ALL FUNDING, AND

WE REALLY NEED TO ENGAGE CLOSER TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT DUPLICATING SERVICES, BUT ALSO ENHANCING EACH OTHERS SERVICES. [ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]

WE ALSO FUND WCCS TO DO OUTREACH
IN GUERNEVILLE.

AND IT WILL REALLY GUIDE ALL OF
OUR INTERACTIONS.

AND THAT'S GOING TO DO THINGS
LIKE

HAVING OUR STAFF CHECK IN
EVERY

EVERY TO COORDINATE THE

DAY AND DOING COOUTREACH
TOGETHER.

THE NEXT PIECE I'M GOING TO SKIP

AHEAD BECAUSE I'MI'M TO GET

INTO THAT FOR THE REST OF THE

PRESENTATION, SO
NEXT SLIDE.

WE WERE REFERENCING EARLIER THAT

THE HOMELESS COALITION HAS

PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING

OPERATIONAL STANDARDS THAT
HAVE
RECENTLY BEEN COMPLETED.

THIS IS A DIFFERENT VERSION
OF
THAT FOR STREET OUTREACH.

SO A COUPLE
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YEARS AGO THE SAME
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GROUP CAME TOGETHER AND
PUT

TOGETHER SOME POLICIES
AND

PROCEDURES HOW STREET

OUTREACH

FOR HOMELESSNESS SHOULD LOOK

ACROSS THE COUNTY,

AND THAT

REALLY BUILT A FOUNDATION
OF

WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO NOW FOR
OUR NEXT STEP IN SEBASTOPOL.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO WHAT IS THE

SUBREGIONAL
STRUCTURE?

AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE
WE'RE

GOING WITH THIS IS THE
WHOLE

COUNTY AS PART OF
THOSE

STANDARDS WAS SPLIT INTO SIX

SUBREGIONS, AND I'LL SHOW YOU
A
MAP IN A SECOND.

EACH SECTION HAS A MANAGER

MANAGING THE DAY TO
DAY
ACTIVITIES IN THAT SUBREGION.

WE HAVE A SHARED

COORDINATION

TOOL USED ACROSS THE
COUNTY

CALLED A BI-NAMES LIST, AND
THIS

IS COORDINATED, AGAIN, ON
A
COUNTY WIDE LEVEL.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS A MAP OF SUBREGIONS.

THERE'S A VERY LONG HISTORY
FOR

WHY WE CAME UP WITH THESE EXACT
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LINES, AND I'M NOT

GOING TO GET
INTO THAT NOW.

BUT SEBASTOPOL, AS YOU CAN SEE,

SITS IN THE WEST COUNTY, KIND OF

THE EDGE OF THAT GREEN OR ON
THE
SCREEN YELLOW AREA.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS KIND OF A ORG
CHART

DESCRIBING HOW THIS COUNTY
WIDE
STRUCTURE LOOKS.

SO YOU'VE GOT IN EACH

SUBREGION

A MANAGER WHO'S MANAGING, AGAIN,
THE DAY TO DAY ACTIVITIES.

THEIR ROLE IS TO WORK WITH THE

STREET OUTREACH SHELTERS
AND

THEN OTHER PARTNERS, SO FOR

EXAMPLE LAW ENFORCEMENT
OR

ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OR

CHURCHES

THAT ARE WORKING WITH
HOMELESSNESS IN THEIR REGION.

AND THEN ALL OF THIS, AGAIN,
IS

ORGANIZED ON A COUNTY WIDE LEVEL
BY MY TEAM.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO YOU'VE USED THE NAME

BINAMES
QUITE A BIT.

JUST TO EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS
IT'S

A LIST OF HOMELESS IN
THE
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REGION.

Agenda Item Number 1

IT'S UPDATED AS CLOSE TO LIVE
AS
POSSIBLE.

DATA COMES AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE

AND DOES INCLUDE PEOPLE NOT

ENGAGING IN SERVICES,

SO IT'S

NOT JUST THOSE THAT ARE

FORMERLY
ENROLLED.

AND THEN IT'S USED TO COORDINATE

SERVICES BETWEEN MULTIPLE
DIFFERENT PARTNERS.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

IT'S JUST A -- IT'S AN EXCEL

SHEET, SO SOMETHING FANCY ON
ITS
OWN.

BUT YOU CAN SEE IN THIS EXAMPLE

EVERY SINGLE PERSON HAS
A
HOUSING PLAN.

THAT'S THE GOAL IS TO GET TO
A

PLACE WHERE EVERY

SINGLE PERSON

EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN A

REGION WE KNOW WHAT'S NEXT FOR

THEM AND TRACKING STEPS

TO MOVE

THEM ALONG IN
THAT PLAN.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF YOU WERE

TALKING ABOUT AT IT BEGINNING
OF
THE MEETING.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE
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WOULD
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PROBABLY DO IN THE

BEGINNINGS OFOF

THE MEETINGS, WHICH IS TO GO

OVER HOT SPOTS OR ENCAMPMENTS
OR
AREAS
OF CONCERN.

AND WE CAN DO THAT

WITHOUT GOING
THROUGH SPECIFIC NAMES.

WE DON'T HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT

THERE, WE'D REALLY HAVE ELECTEDS
THERE.

ELECTEDS

REALLY UP TO THE COMMUNITY
AND WHAT MAKES SENSE.

WE WOULD TRACK AGAIN SPECIFIC

ACTIONS FOR THOSE HOT SPOTS
AND

AREAS TO MAKE SURE
WE'RE

DEPLOYING OUTREACH
APPROPRIATELY.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT
DATA
CAN COME FROM THIS PROCESS.

I WANT TO GIVE KUDOS

TO HOME

FIRST, WHO HOME

USED TO WORK FOR,

BUT THEY DO THIS IN SONOMA
VALLEY

AND SOUTH

COUNTY, SO SOME
OF THIS DATA COMES FROM THEM.

BUT YOU CAN SEE WHAT

IT REALLY

ALLOWS US TO DO IS GET TO THE

POINT WHERE WE CAN SAY IN
THIS

MOMENT THIS IS EXACTLY THE TYPE
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OF HOUSING WE WOULD NEED TO
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INVEST IN IN THIS AREA
IF WE

WANTED TO END

HOMELESSNESS
TODAY.

THAT'S A REALLY

POWERFUL TOOL

WHEN IT COMES TO DIRECTING
AND
FUTURE INVESTMENTS.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN SOUTH COUNTY

WHAT WE SAW

OVER A LONG PERIOD

OF TIME OF DOING THIS KIND OF

COLLABORATION IS A MASSIVE
INCREASE.

THIS ALSO CAME WITH

INVESTMENTS

IN-HOUSING BUT A LOT OF IT
TRULY
WAS COORDINATION.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO I WANTED TO END WITH
SOME

REALLY CLEAR DIRECTION FOR YOU
ALL.

I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME

CONFUSION ON WHO DO

YOU CALL FOR

WHAT ISSUE WHEN IT COMES IT
HOMELESS SERVICES.

AND SO IN SEBASTOPOL, AND THIS
IS TRUE TODAY.

IF YOU ARE SEEING SOMEBODY
THAT

SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE

EXPERIENCING

AN URGENT MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS,

HOMELESS OUTREACH IS NOT THE
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RIGHT RESOURCE.

WHAT THE RIGHT RESOURCE
IS THE

COUNTY WIDE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH

TEAM, OUR MOBILE

SUPPORT TEAM,

AND THAT IS THE NUMBER TO CALL,

THEY WILL -- THEY WILL

RESPOND

AND COME OUT, IF
IT'S
APPROPRIATE.

FOR NONF URGENT

HOMELESS

SERVICES, SO WHAT DO YOU DO IF

YOU'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT

SOMEBODY ON THE STREET CORNER

AND YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE

THAT THEY'RE GETTING SERVICES
TO

GET OUT OF THAT SITUATION
IN

INTO A LONG-TERM SITUATION, YOU

WOULD CALL THE NUMBER THAT'S ON
THE SCREEN FOR THAT.

AND SO THAT IS A NUMBER
THAT
GOES TO MY OFFICE.

WE ARE NOW TAKING THIS ON,
AND

WE WILL THEN DIRECT

WEST COUNTY

COMMUNITY SERVICES OR OUR OWN
OWN

TO GO OUT AND RESPOND AND

MAKE SURE THAT PERSON
IS
RECEIVING SERVICES.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO WHAT ARE NEXT STEPS?
SO THERE'S KIND OF -- Agenda Item Number 1
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THERE'S
Agenda Item Number 1
THREE MOUs THAT WE'RE

TALKING
ABOUT

TODAY THAT WILL HELP GUIDE
US GOING FORWARD.

SO THERE'S ONE BETWEEN

THE CITY

AND WCCS, AND I THINK

THAT'S ON
THE AGENDA TO BE APPROVED.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING ONE
BACK

FOR CITY OF SEBASTOPOL AND
THEN

WITH DHS IN TWO

WEEKS IS THE
GOAL.

I THINK WE'RE STILL ON TRACK TO
DO THAT.

AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, WCCS,

AND THEN DEPARTMENT OF
HEALTH

SERVICES HAS OUR OWN

MOU THAT

WE'RE WORKING ON BEHIND
THE
SCENES.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ALIGN
ON
DATA RECORDING.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
ARE

DOING -- TRACKING OUR

OUTCOMES

THE SAME ACROSS BOTH OF OUR

TEAMS, AND SO

THERE'S WORK TO DO
THERE.

WE WANT TO TRAIN BOTH OF THESE

OUR STAFF IN

THESE NEW PROCESSES
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THEN TO YOUR

QUESTION

EARLIER WHEN IS THIS GOING TO
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Agenda Item Number 1

START THE BILIST MEETINGS,
WE'LL

SEND OUT AN

INTRODUCTORY E-MAIL

TO COUNCIL MEMBERS,

SEVERAL

FOLKS AROUND THE WEST
COUNTY

REGION IN THIS MONTH, AND
THEN

WE'LL HAVE A

KICKOFF MEETING

EITHER THIS MONTH OR NEXT MONTH
AND START FOR REAL IN OCTOBER.

WE'LL BUILD THE LIST AND
START

WORKING THROUGH WHAT

ARE THE

ACTION PLANS FOR EACH OF
THE
PEOPLE ON THAT LIST.

AND THAT'S IT FOR ME.

THANK
YOU.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE BACK AT THE
DAIS.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION, MAYOR?

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR

SLIDE, PAGE

98. IT SAYS OUTCOMES -- IT'S TALKING
ABOUT HOUSING EXITS OVER TIME.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT SLIDE?
YES, I CAN.

SO IN SOUTH -- AND I USED
TO

WORK FOR HOME FIRST, SO I KNOW
A

LOT ABOUT THIS SLIDE, BUT I WANT
TO DIFFERENTIATE MY ROLES.

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SO THANK YOU TO THEM FOR
Agenda Item Number 1
PROVIDING THIS.

SO THAT IS SHOWING EXITS

OVEROVER
TIME.

SO PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING FROM

THIS PROCESS THAT WE ARE

TRACKING, WHICH

IS TRACKING

PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS INTO
PERMANENT HOUSING.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S REALLY

SMALL, BUT I REALLY THE FIRST

QUARTER THAT WE WERE

TRACKING IT
AT THAT POINT IT WAS 11

PEOPLE,

AND THEN THAT GOT ALL THE WAY
UP
TO 40 PEOPLE SEVERAL QUARTERS

LATER, SO IT REALLY JUST
SHOWS

HOW INCREASED COLLABORATION
AND

HOLDING ACCOUNTABILITY I
WOULD

SAY TO MOVING ACTIONS FORWARD

CAN HELP MOVE PEOPLE INTO
HOUSING.

SO HOUSING EXITS

MEANSMEANS

PEOPLE FROM HOMELESSNESS INTO
HOUSING?
CORRECT.

OKAY.

YEAH, EXIT IS

A CONFUSING
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WORD IN THAT SCENARIO, SO THANK
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YOU FOR THAT CLARIFYING
QUESTION.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT
MEANT

PEOPLE WERE LOSING HOUSING
OR --
GOOD QUESTION, YEAH.

EXIT FROM THE THING THAT WE'RE

DOING INTO THE -- YEAH,
RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER
ZOLLMAN.

YEAH, FIRST

THANKS FOR THE
PRESENTATION TO BOTH OF YOU.

VERY CLEAR.

AND THANKS FOR INCLUDING THE

DATA FROM SONOMA VALLEY AND FROM

PETALUMA BECAUSE, YOU

KNOW, WE
ARE

A LITTLE COMPETITIVE IN THE

WEST, AND WE

WANT TO MAKE SURE

THAT WE'RE KEEPING UP KEEPING

EVERYBODY GOING -- ALL
THE
HAPPENINGS IN THE COUNTY.

CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN JUST BIG

PICTURE WHY THE DATA
IS
IMPORTANT?

BECAUSE I ATTENDED ONE OF THE
ELECTED MEETINGS.

WHAT I HEARD THE MAYOR OF
THE

CITY OF SONOMA MET WITH THE
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CHAIR OF THE BOARD
Agenda Item Number 1
OF

SUPERVISORS, REVIEWED ALL THAT

DATA, MAYBE SOME OF THE
DATA

THAT WAS IN THE SLIDE, AND

SOMEBODY WAS ABLE TO SAY IF
YOU

PRODUCE THIS AMOUNT OF HOUSING

BY THIS DATE, YOU WILL

EFFECTIVELY BE WITHOUT ANY
UNHOUSED.

YEAH.

AND I SHOWED

THAT SLIDE, WHERE

IF YOU -- I MEAN, IT WOULD TAKE

A WHILE TO DESCRIBE THE

DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING BUT

YOU HAVE RAPID REHOUSING AND

PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE

HOUSING,

WHICH TONIGHT IS A LOT OF
WHAT

THE SLIDES ARE
ABOUT.

IF YOU BUILD "X" AMOUNT WE CAN

END HOMELESSNESS THE MOMENT
THAT
HAPPENS.

AND
THAT REDIRECTS INVESTMENTS.

RIGHT.

AND THAT WOULD TIE IN AND
HELP

STAFF ESPECIALLY PLANNING
WHO

HAVE TO KEEP TRACK
OF OUR

HOUSING
NUMBERS, RIGHT?

THAT DATA WOULD REALLY
BE
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HELPFUL TO CITY STAFF WHO ARE
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FRANTICALLY TRYING TO

KEEP UP

WITH OUR HOUSING ELEMENTS
AND
KEEP
THOSE UPDATED.

I THINK SO.

YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

OKAY, GOOD.

AND YOU'VE ALSO HAD

SIMILAR
SUCCESS IN PETALUMA.

I'VE HEARD THERE WAS A SIMILAR

MEETING WITH MAYOR OF

PETALUMA

TO TALK ABOUT SOME SAME SORT OF
OUTCOME.

I MEAN, THEY PRESENTED
AT

THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS,
SO

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF

DIFFERENT

DYNAMIC THERE, BUT HE'S -- YOU

KNOW, THEY'RE AWARE OF THE SAME
DATA.

I KNOW REACH FOR HOME
DOES

SIMILAR WORK UP IN NORTH
COUNTY

AND CITY OF SANTA ROSA -- BOTH
DO THE SAME.

THEY'RE IN-HOUSE SO

THEIR CITY

STAFF ARE RUNNING THIS

PROCESS,

BUT IT'S
HAPPENING EVERYWHERE.

SO REALISTICALLY GIVEN THE
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BINAMES AND WHEN IT'S
Agenda Item Number 1

STARTED,

WHEN COULD WE INVITE YOU
BACK?
OH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I WOULD SAY SIX MONTHS AT THE
EARLIEST.

IT WILL TAKE TIME TO
REALLY
DEVELOP THE FULL PICTURE.

OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

WE HAD -- OUR VICE MAYOR
HAD
A QUESTION.

I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON
A

QUESTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER
ZOLLMAN ASKED.

SO HOW MANY HOUSING UNITS ARE
ACTUALLY NEEDED?

I'M NOT SEEING THAT IN THE
REPORT.

I DON'T KNOW YET BECAUSE
WE
HAVEN'T STARTED THE PROCESS.

IN WEST COUNTY, WE'LL GET THERE.

BY THE WAY, WE WILL HAVE --
OUR

INTENTION IS TO
TRACK

SPECIFICALLY WHO IS

SPENDING

MOST OF THEIR TIME
IN

SEBASTOPOL, SO IT'S NOT -- WE'LL

BE ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE TO
A
LARGE EXTENT.

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

OH, I'M SORRY, YOU HAVE
YOUR
HAND UP.

THERE WE GO.

I CAN SEE IT, COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER.

YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT

SO SOME ARE LEAVING AND SOME
NEW
ARE
COMING IN.

ON AVERAGE ON ANY GIVEN DAY IN

SEBASTOPOL, ABOUT HOW MANY

PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS?

AND IS THERE EVER GOING TO BE
A

RAPID HOUSING NUMBER THAT WORKS

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NEW PEOPLE

ARE ENTERING --

THAT'S A REALLY INSIGHTFUL

QUESTION, SOMETHING WE TALK A

LOT ABOUT IN HOMELESS

SERVICES
IS THE

ANALOGY THAT I LIKE BEST
IS LIKE A BATHTUB, RIGHT.

SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR FAUCET
COMING

IN, AND THAT'S THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE BECOMING HOMELESS.

AND THEN YOU'VE KNOT YOUR
DRAIN

GOING OUT, AND THAT'S YOUR
HOUSING OUTFLOW.

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SO YOU WANT TO CLOSE YOUR
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FAUCET

AND OPEN YOUR

DRAIN AS MUCH AND

PEOPLE, AND THEN HELP THE PEOPLE

THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING

HOMELESSNESS IN A DIGNIFIED
WAY
AS BEST AS YOU CAN.

AND SO I CAN'T ANSWER YOUR

QUESTION NOW BECAUSE WE

HAVEN'T

STARTED COLLECTING THE DATA
YET

IN A REALLY MEANINGFUL WAY,
BUT
WE WILL GET THERE.

TO YOUR POINT, I MEAN, WE

WILL BE

ABLE TO SAY DEFINITIVELY

HERE'S HOW MANY YOU WOULD
NEED

TO END HOMELESSNESS FOR
THE
GROUP TODAY.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO A LOT
OF

PREDICTIVE ANALYSIS TO SAY
OVER

TIME AND HERE'S HOW MUCH
MORE
YOU WOULD NEED.

DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION?
ALL RIGHT.

AND I JUST HAVE A

QUICK QUESTION

JUST LISTENING
TO THIS HERE.

I MEAN, WE CAN SAY HOW MUCH WE

NEED, BUT IT ALL DEPENDS
ON

WHETHER OR NOT THEY

ACCEPT,

RIGHT, I MEAN SERVICES AND
HOUSING.

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BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING FROM

PEOPLE THAT SAY, YEAH, I
HEARD

ABOUT IT BUT I DON'T WANT
ANY

HOUSING, I'M HAPPY WITH WHAT
I'M
DOING.

ISN'T THAT PART OF THE

CHALLENGE
THAT WE HAVE?

I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU INVEST

IN OUTREACH WHICH IS WHY
WE'RE
HERE TODAY.

I'VE BEEN WORKING AND

MANAGING

STREET OUTREACH TEAMS FOR A LONG
TIME, ABOUT 16 YEARS NOW.

IN ALL THE YEARS I'VE
BEEN

EITHER MYSELF

DOING STREET

OUTREACH OR WORKING WITH
STAFF

I'VE ONLY EVER ENCOUNTERED ONE

PERSON WHO AFTER TWO YEARS
OF

CONTINUOUS ENGAGEMENT DIDN'T
SAY
YES, RIGHT.

SO IT SOMETIMES TAKES THAT,
AND

IT SOMETIMES TAKES SAYING
HELLO
EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR TWO YEARS.

BUT IT -- I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE.

YES, THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO

IMMEDIATELY SAY NO

BECAUSE

THEY'VE BEEN TRAUMATIZED BY
THE

SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY ARE
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EXPERIENCING A DIFFERENT REALITY
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THAN THE REST OF US, YOU
KNOW,

WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT THAT IS
THE

MAGIC OF STREET OUTREACH IS

UNDERSTANDING WHAT MAKES THIS

PERSON TICK AND HOW CAN I
GET

THEM TO
YES.

ALL RIGHT.

IF THERE ARE NO OTHER

QUESTIONS,
THEN WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND THANK YOU
SO MUCH.

THANK YOU,
MAYOR.

YOU GUYS CAN GO AHEAD AND SIT
DOWN.

I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP
FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON
THE

CONTRACTS FOR THE

HEART/SOUL AS
WELL AS WCCS.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC

COMMENT ON THIS ITEM,

GEB IT IS

A TWO-MINUTE TIME LIMIT AND I
GO

TO CHAMBERS FIRST AND GO OUT
TO
ZOOM.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS.

SEEING NONE, I'LL GO OUT
TO
ZOOM.

ROB, CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF,
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PLEASE?
Agenda Item Number 1

ROB, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF --
WHOOPS.

CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
THERE YOU GO.

CAN YOU SEE THE
TIMER?

I CAN'T, BUT IT'S
OKAY.

GO
AHEAD.

IT'S NOT REALLY -- I
GUESS

IT'S A COMMENT, BUT I'VE HEARD
A

LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING
TODAY

ABOUT HOW THERE'S PROMISES THAT

ARE MADE THAT, YOU KNOW,
AREN'T

ACHIEVABLE OR MAYBE NEVER
COULD
BE ACHIEVED.

AND WHEN I HEAR ABOUT IF YOU

BUILD THIS MANY UNITS,

THAT YOU

CAN END

HOMELESSNESS, THAT'S
REALLY HARD FOR ME TO ACCEPT.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT I DON'T

KNOW ABOUT HOMELESSNESS,
BUT

THAT'S HARD FOR ME TO

ACCEPT YOU

CAN DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALL

DEPENDENT ON THE MONEY THAT
CAN

CONTINUE TO COME IN TO

SUPPORT
PEOPLE.

IF THEY DON'T GET JOBS FOR
A

LONG TIME, YOU MAY BE ABLE
TO
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HOUSE THEM, BUT THAT'S ONLY
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A

SMALL PART OF IT AS FAR AS I
CAN
TELL.

AND I THINK THAT SAYING THIS

MAGIC NUMBER CAN END

HOMELESSNESS, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS

GROUP OF PEOPLE MAKES
PEOPLE

THINK IT'S GOING TO END

HOMELESSNESS AND THEY'RE
GOING
TO BE ALL DONE.

AND THE EXPECTATION IS NOT
NEAR
THE REALITY.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN CHAMBERS.

SEEING NONE, I'LL GO BACK OUT.

LEE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES.

THERE
YOU GO.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER
STILL?
CAN.

GO AHEAD,
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I

PLEASE.

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CONGRATULATIONS TO THE HEART
ORGANIZATION.

THAT WAS THE FIRST PRESENTATION

THAT I'VE SEEN THAT GIVES
ME

SOME CONFIDENCE, A BIT OF

CONFIDENCE THAT THE COUNTY
MIGHT

ACTUALLY HAVE A WORKABLE PLAN TO

IMPROVE THE PROBLEM OF
HOMELESSNESS.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE THE
NUMBER

OF UNHOUSED LIVING ON
OUR

STREETS GO DOWN
NEXT YEAR.

THE DATA WAS REALLY INTERESTING.

I THINK SANDRA POINTED OUT OR
ASKED ABOUT THE 67

HOMELESSNESS

AND OUR NUMBER KIND OF
SOUNDS
LIKE THAT IT IS.

TWO YEARS AGO IT WAS A HUNDRED.

AND LAST YEAR IT WAS ZERO,
AND
AT THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.

NO ONE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS
A

HUNDRED AND NO ONE REALLY
THOUGHT IT WAS ZERO.

THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE MOVING IN

AND OUT OF THE CITY LIMITS

PROBABLY MAKES THE POINT IN
TIME
COUNT USELESS.

BUT IF YOU'RE

IN CONTACT WITH
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Agenda Item Number 1
67, THAT'S PROBABLY A
DECENT

ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE

ONGOING

NUMBER IS AND SOMETHING

THAT WE

COULD WORK WITH IN THE FUTURE
IN
TERMS OF GETTING IT DOWN.

THAT WOULD ALSO CONTINUE TO KEEP

US IN THE HIGHEST PER
CAPITA

NUMBER OF HOMELESS OF ANY
CITY
IN THE COUNTY.

I'M NOT SURE WHY COUNCIL MEMBER

ZOLLMAN WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE
HOUSING ELEMENT.

WE HAVE MORE PSH UNITS RIGHT
NOW

PER CAPITA THAN ANY
OTHER CITY.

I KIND OF WONDER IF THE ENTIRE

COUNTY BILL AS

MUCH SUPPORTIVE

PERMANENT HOUSING PER CAPITA AS

SEBASTOPOL, IF THAT WOULD
BE

ENOUGH HOMES TO END

HOMELESSNESS
OR UNHOUSED.

JUST
A THOUGHT.

THANKS.

BYE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK
INTO
CHAMBERS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN

CHAMBERS

THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
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PUBLIC
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COMMENT
ON THIS ITEM.

SEEING NONE, I WILL GO BACK OUT
TO ZOOM.

IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM
THAT

WOULD LIKE TO

PUBLIC COMMENT ON

THIS ITEM TO PLEASE

RAISE YOUR
HAND VIRTUALLY.

SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS
CLOSED FOR THIS ITEM.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

SO WE'RE BACK AT THE DAIS
FOR
ANY COMMENTS.

GO AHEAD, COUNCIL
MEMBER
ZOLLMAN.

NO, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE
PRESENTERS.

THE DATA WAS GREAT PRESENTING
AN

END GOAL OF WHAT IF WE REALLY

FOCUS ON THE DATA WE REALLY CAN

STRIKE TO GET A NUMBER TO
MOVE
TOWARDS EVERYONE HAVING HOUSED.

SO I WILL END UP MOVING STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS.

I'LL SECOND.

IS THAT A -- DO WE HAVE OTHER
COMMENTS?

COUNCIL MEMBER
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HINTON DOES.

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YEAH, I MEAN, I HAVE

SUPPORTED THESE SERVICES AND

WEST COUNTY COMMUNITY

SERVICES

TO PROVIDE THEM I THINK AS
LONG
AS I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.

I DID -- I WILL SUPPORT
THIS

AGAIN TONIGHT, BUT I WANT TO

SEND A REALLY CLEAR MESSAGE THAT

I HEARD APOLOGIES ABOUT LACK OF

OVERSIGHT, AND THAT'S HARD TO

HEAR REALLY WHEN WE'RE PAYING
FOR SERVICES.

I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T
SAY IT

OUT LOUD BECAUSE WE'RE

GOING INTO

ANOTHER CONTRACTCONTRACT

TONIGHT AND -- WELL, I SUPERVISE

STAFF, AND AS A SUPERVISOR OF

STAFF YOU CAN MAKE A MISTAKE BUT

YOU CAN'T MAKE IT OVER AND OVER
AGAIN.

I AM A BIT DISAPPOINTED TONIGHT.

I NEED TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD TO
THE
PUBLIC.

WE'RE SPENDING THEIR MONEYCH .

I DO WANT -- I KNOW PEOPLE
ARE

IN NEED AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN FOR
THESE SERVICES.

BUT I WANT TO ENSURE IF
WE'RE
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SIGNING A CONTRACT THAT WE
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HAVE

SOME ACCOUNTABILITY
AND

OVERSIGHT BY THE VENDOR
THAT
WE'RE SELECTING.

SO WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.

AND ANY

OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE
I MAKE MINE?

AND I WANTED TO BE CLEAR HERE

BEFORE I SAY THAT, DO
WE

ACTUALLY HAVE A MOTION BECAUSE
I

THOUGHT WE WERE JUST DOING

COMMENTS, AND THEN I
HEARD

COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN DO
A
MOTION.

WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND.

WHAT WAS THE MOTION
EXACTLY?

SO THE MOTION IS WHAT IS
IN
THE STAFF REPORT.

IT IS TO AUTHORIZE A

CONTINUED

PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SONOMA

COUNTY HEART AND SOUL
FOR

DEDICATED OUTREACH SERVICES AND

SUCCESS OR MOU, AND HEART HAS

ALSO AGREED OR THE COUNTY
HAS

AGREED TO CONTINUE THE SERVICES

UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT WE CAN
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Agenda Item Number 1

BRING THAT CONTRACT BACK AS WELL

AS APPROVING THE

PROFESSIONAL

SERVICES CONTRACT FOR THE WEST

COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR THE
FY26, 26 HOMELESS

OUTREACH
SERVICES.

GOT IT.

I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND

BEFORE I
MAKE MY COMMENT.

I AM IN AGREEMENT

WITH BRINGINGBRINGING
BACK, YOU "A," THE HEART

AND SOUL IN THAT, BUT I

CERTAINLY

CANNOT SUPPORT
GIVEN

WHAT WE'VE
HEARD TONIGHT.

IT'S SOMETHING OVER THE YEARS

I'VE NOT

BEEN SUPPORTIVE IN THE

PAST AND I'M NOT ABLE TO
OVERLOOK THAT.

WE'RE A CITY STRAPPED FOR
MONEY.

WE'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, A
GREAT

FLUCTUATION IN THE UNHOUSED
WE

HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT IS
QUITE HIGH.

AND I'M

JUST DISAPPOINTED TO

HEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING

ALL THESE REPORTS ALL THIS TIME,
AND THEY'RE NOT ACCURATE.

SO YES FOR PART OF IT,
BUT I

WILL NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE
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FOR
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THIS IF IT INCLUDES

EVERYTHING

BECAUSE PERSONALLY I THINK IF

ANYTHING ELSE I'D LIKE TO SEE
THAT $40,000 THERE IS
GOING

TOWARD SOMETHING ELSE THAT
MIGHT

BE MORE EFFECTIVE FOR US

WHETHER

IT'S A PART-TIME POLICE

OFFICER

OR PART-TIME SOMETHING ELSE
THAT

CAN DO SOMETHING, BUT I'M NOT

ABLE TO OVERLOOK THE FACT
THIS
LACK OF MANAGEMENT HAS HAPPENED.

I JUST DON'T THINKTHINK
-- IN

MY OPINION AS A COUNCIL

MEMBER I

DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE

OVERLOOKING THAT AND SAY, OKAY,

DO BETTER NEXT
TIME.

I CAN'T DO THAT, SO

THAT'S WHERE
I'M AT
WITH THIS.

I EXPECT MORE FOR OUR TAXPAYER
DOLLARS.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE
ELSE

HAS A COMMENT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO
DO --

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR WOULD

YOU LIKE ME TO CALL FOR THE
MOTION?

GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR
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VOTE.

Agenda Item Number 1

COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN MOVED

AND VICE MAYOR MAURER

AUTHORIZED

THE MOTION TO CONTINUE
THE

PARTNERSHIP WITH SONOMA
COUNTY

HEART TO RETURN TO FULL CITY

COUNCIL MEETING

UNDERSTANDING

THE COUNTY WILL CONTINUE

SERVICES UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT

MOU RETURNS TO THE COUNCIL
AND

AUTHORIZING PROFESSIONAL

SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH
WEST
COUNTY SERVICES FOR THE FY26, 27

OUTREACH HOMELESS SERVICES IN
AN
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $40,000
AND

AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF THE
AGREEMENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER?
YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON?

I GUESS I'M GOING TO SAY YES
TONIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER
ZOLLMAN?
YELL.

VICE
MAYOR MAURER.

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YES.

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MAYOR McLEWIS?
NO.

MOTION PASSES 4-1 WITH

COUNCIL MEMBERS -- IN SUPPORT
AND VICE MAYOR IN OPPOSITION.

BEFORE WE MOVE ON I WANTED
TOTO
TWO THINGS.

AFTER THIS BREAK I'M GOING TO
BE
EXITING THE MEETING.

I ACTUALLY HAVE A SURGERY AT
6:00 A.M.

TOMORROW MORNING.

I'M SORRY.

I LEARNED THAT THIS AFTERNOON,

SO VICE MAYOR I'M JUST GOING
TO

ASK YOU TO TAKE OVER FOR THIS
LAST
ITEM.

OKAY.

SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT I
DIDN'T

HAVE TIME TO LET YOU KNOW THAT
BEFORE THIS.

DO YOU WANT TO DO FIVE

MINUTES

OR DO YOU WANT TO TAKE -- VICE

MAYOR, YOU SAID YOU WANTED A

BREAK, SO IS FIVE MINUTES
ENOUGH?
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YES.

OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD
ANDAND

THAT AND THANK YOU FOR
TAKING
OVER.

SORRY ABOUT THAT BUT I HAVE
TO

TAKE CARE OF

MY HEALTH, SO THANK
YOU.

SO ARE WE READY TOTO
GOING?TECH,
MARY?

OKAY, WELCOME BACK TO THE
CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

WE ARE GOING TO NEXT
TAKE
ITEM -- AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12,

WHICH IS POTENTIAL OPTIONS TO

ADDRESS

COMMUNITY CONCERNS

REGARDING GRAFFITI AND
RACIAL

MOCKERY ASSOCIATED WITH THE
SAFEWAY AREA.

AND WHO WILL BE PRESENTING
THIS?
I WILL, VICE MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING, AGAIN, EXCUSE ME.

AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, OVER
A

PERIOD OF WEEKS THE COUNCIL

RECEIVED A NUMBER

OF COMPLAINTS

FROM MEMBERS OF THE

COMMUNITY

REGARDING GRAFFITI AND
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OTHER
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TYPES OF RACIAL HARASSMENT
THAT

HAVE BEEN OCCURRING AT OR NEAR

THE SAFEWAY STORE

INVOLVING
YOUTH IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND ON AUGUST 4th THE COUNCIL

DISCUSSED THIS AND

DISCUSSED

SOME OPTIONS

AND POSSIBILITIES

FOR DEALING WITH THIS AND

PROVIDED A DIRECTION TO ME
TO

PREPARE A REPORT ON SOME OF THE

LEGAL TOOLS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT

BE AVAILABLE

FOR DEALING WITH
THIS.DEALING

IN PARTICULAR THERE WAS A
EMPHASIS ON RESTORATIVE JUSTICE.

AND SO I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE NOW

AND THEN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU
MAY
HAVE.

SO THE FIRST ONE I WANT TO
TOUCH

ON IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT AN

OPTION, WHICH MANDATING

IMPROVEMENTS AT THE
SITE.

YEAH, SORRY.

MANDATING -- IS THAT BETTER?

MANDATING PHYSICAL

IMPROVEMENTS

AT THE SITE WHETHER THAT BE A
FENCE OR CAMERAS.

THE CITY GENERALLY

DOES NOT HAVETHE

ABILITY TO REQUIRE
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PRIVATE
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PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE PHYSICAL
IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SITE OUTSIDEAN ENTITLEMENT PROCESS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS COMMON
WHEN

A PROJECT COMES TO THE CITY
FOR

A USE PERMIT OR DESIGN REVIEW

FOR THE CITY TO REQUIRE THINGS

AT THAT POINT, BUT THE CITY
HAS

NO ABILITY IN GENERAL TO DO
THAT

ON AN AD HOC BASIS OUTSIDE OF
THAT PERMANENT PROCESS.

SO IF THIS PROPERTY

OWNER CAME

TO THE CITY IN THE FUTURE FOR --

IF THEY NEEDED A CONDITIONAL USE

PERMIT FOR ANYTHING OR IF THEY,

YOU KNOW, WERE DOING A

REMODEL

AND NEEDED DESIGN REVIEW,
THE

CITY MIGHT HAVE ABILITY TO
DO

THAT -- REQUIRE THOSE AT THAT

TIME, BUT WE -- IT'S NOT

SOMETHING WE CAN REQUIRE SORT
OF

ON AN AD HOC BASIS OUTSIDE OF

THOSE -- THE EXERCISE OF
OUR
LAND USE AUTHORITY.

SO GOING INTO JUST A

COUPLE OF

OUR OPTIONS THAT WE DO HAVE IS
THE CITY HAS BEEN MEETING.

YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR INITIALLY

CONVENED MEETINGS WITH -- AND IS

CONTINUING AN ATTEMPT TO
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CONVENE
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MEETINGS WITH SORT OF ALL THE

INTERESTED PARTIES --

NEIGHBORHOOD, RESIDENTS,
THE

SCHOOL, SAFEWAY, AS WELL AS
THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO THOSE, OF COURSE, CAN
CONTINUE.

AND I DO WANT TO

ACKNOWLEDGE

THAT WE HAD IT ORIGINALLY

MISSTATED IN THE STAFF
REPORT

THAT THOSE -- THAT THAT

MEETING

WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE
COUNCIL FORMALLY.

IT HAS NOT BEEN.

IT WAS SOMETHING
DONE

SEPARATIVELY AND THE
CITY

MANAGER AUTHORIZED STAFF
TO

PARTICIPATE IN
THOSE
DISCUSSIONS.

SO THAT CAN CONTINUE.

AND WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK
ON

TRYING TO GET

VOLUNTARY

AGREEMENT WITH SAFEWAY
ABOUT

INSTALLING SOME OF
THESE

PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS OR TAKING
OTHER STEPS.

SOME OF THE OTHER VOLUNTARY

STEPS THAT ARE POSSIBLE
ARE

ENFORCEMENT OF TRESPASSING
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LAWS,
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RIGHT?

AS PROPERTY OWNER THEY CAN SIGN

DOCUMENTS ALLOWING POLICE

DEPARTMENT TO

ENFORCE

TRESPASSING LAWS EVEN

IF THEY
ARE NOT ON SITE.

SO THAT WOULD ALLOW THE POLICE

DEPARTMENT TO

ENFORCE

TRESPASSING LAWS, YOU
KNOW,

OVERNIGHT WHEN THE SITE IS NOT

OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, OPEN
FOR
THE PUBLIC TO USE.

THE CITY COULD ALSO DO
A

GRAFFITI ABATEMENT

ORDINANCE

THAT ALLOWS THE PROPERTY
OWNER

TO CLEAR THE GRAFFITI WITHIN A
SPECIFIED AMOUNT OF TIME.

IF NOT THE CITY WOULD
PURSUE

CODE ENFORCEMENT EITHER FINES
OR

POTENTIALLY THE CITY DOING

REMOVAL ITSELF AND SEEKING COST

RECOVERY FROM THE

PROPERTY
OWNER.

THAT IS

SOMETHING THAT IS

POSSIBLE, AND MANY CITIES HAVE

THOSE TYPES OF ORDINANCES, AND

THERE ARE PROCESSES
FOR

RECOVERING THOSE COSTS
BY
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EITHER
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RECORDING IT AS A LIEN ON THE

PROPERTY OR RECORDING IT AS
A

SPECIAL ASSESSMENT AND

COLLECT
ON A PROPERTY TAX ROLL.

SO THOSE ORDINANCES GENERALLY

REQUIRE -- ESTABLISHES

A PERIOD

OF TIME IN WHICH GRAFFITI
MUST

BE REMOVED, SO THAT COULD BE
AS

LITTLE AS
24 HOURS.
72 HOURS IS VERY COMMON.

SOME CITIES ALLOW EVEN MORE
THAN
THAT.

AND THEN BASED ON

COUNCIL

DIRECTION, THERE WERE

QUESTIONS
ABOUT RESTORATIVE JUSTICE.

AND, YOU KNOW, TO VERY

OVERSIMPLIFY THIS

STORATIVE

JUSTICE IS INTENDED AS A PROCESS

WHERE OUTSIDE THE TRADITIONAL

SORT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM,

WHERE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH

DIALOGUE
AND

COMMUNICATION,

PARTIES MEET

TO DISCUSS THE

INCIDENT, THE HARM, WHY IT WAS

CAUSED, THE REASONS THAT
IT

OCCURRED TRYING TO REACH
A

RESOLUTION AND SORT
OF

PERMANENT -- MAYBE

NOT PERMANENT

BUT A PERMANENT
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FORWARD WHERE
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EVERYONE FEELS HEARD AND THERE
ARE SOLUTIONS.

AGAIN, THAT'S AN

OVERSIMPLIFICATION OF THE
PROCESS.

AND RESTORATIVE JUSTICE IS
ONE
TYPE
OF DIVERSION PROGRAM.

THERE ARE OTHER TYPES
OF

DIVERSION PROGRAMS TRYING TO

STEER RATHER THAN SEND PEOPLE
TO

JAIL OR THROUGH THE
NORMAL

CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROCESS WHERE

THEY ARE DIVERTED TO

ANOTHER
PROGRAM.

SO THERE ARE A COUPLE WAYS
THIS
HAPPENS.

THE SONOMA COUNTY JUVENILE

JUSTICE SYSTEM HAS DIVERSION
PROGRAMS.

IT HAS RESTORATIVE

JUSTICE

PROGRAMS LIKE MANY SYSTEMS
IN
THE STATE.

SO THAT REQUIRES SOMEONE TO BE

REFERRED TO, YOU KNOW,
THOSE
PROCESSES.

THE PROBATION

DEPARTMENT,

JUVENILE JUSTICE IS

OPERATED

THROUGH THE

PROBATION
DEPARTMENT.

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THEY MIGHT MAKE -- YOU KNOW,
FOR

ANY PARTICULAR CASE THEY
MIGHT

DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT A

REFERRAL
TO DIVERSION IS APPROPRIATE.

IF THAT'S SUCCESSFUL, THE

PROCESS AGAIN THAT CASE MAY
BE
DISMISSED.

IF NOT, IT MIGHT BE

REFERRED

BACK TO THE NORMAL

JUVENILE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

PROBATION MAY ALSO DECIDE
THAT,

YOU KNOW, A PARTICULAR CASE

ISN'T SUITABLE FOR DIVERSION AND

SEND IT INITIALLY TO THE
TRADITIONAL PROCESS.

THAT, OF COURSE, DOES REQUIRE A

CRIMINAL REFERRAL TO THE

PROBATION DEPARTMENT THAT, YOU

KNOW, AFTER A

CRIMINAL CITATION

OR ARREST
IS MADE.

AND THEN AS PART OF INTAKE AT

THE PROBATION

DEPARTMENT THEY

WOULD GO THROUGH A FULL PROCESS

GENERALLY, WHICH WOULD INVOLVE

FINGERPRINTING AND THINGS
LIKE
THAT.

THE CITY DOES NOT FINGERPRINT.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT
THE
CITY DOES.

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THAT IS SOMETHING THAT

HAPPENS

AT THE COUNTY LEVEL WHEN
AN

INDIVIDUAL IS

BOOKED FOR LACK OFFOR
BETTER WORD.

SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
CITIES

WHO -- THROUGHOUT THE STATE WHO

MIGHT SPONSOR

RESTORATIVE
JUSTICE PROGRAMS.

AND USUALLY THOSE ARE SEPARATE

FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
AND
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW,
GRANT

FUNDING THAT'S SPONSORED WITH
A

SCHOOL DISTRICT OR OTHER

PROVIDERS, SO THAT'S A RESOURCE
FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MIGHT

MAKE REFERRALS TO THOSE

PROGRAMS

FOR OUR CASES WHERE THEY THINK,
HEY,

THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WHERE

WE WANT TO -- MAYBE IT'S NOT

ILLEGAL CONDUCT, NECESSARILY,

BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THINKS

IT WOULD BENEFIT FROM
GOING

THROUGH SOME OF THIS PROCESS AND

THEY MAY SUGGEST OR REFER
PEOPLE

TO IT, OR IT MAY BE A TYPE OF

LOW LEVEL CRIME WHERE THE POLICE

DEPARTMENT DETERMINES IT'S
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NOT
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APPROPRIATE TO DO A

CRIMINAL

PROCESS WHERE A CITATION
IS
ISSUED OR AN ARREST IS MADE.

BUT THE MOST COMMON WAY
THIS

WORKS IS THOSE REFERRALS ARE

MADE, MIGHT COME FROM THE
POLICE

DEPARTMENT, MIGHT COME
FROM
SOMEONE ELSE.

THE RESTORATIVE

JUSTICE PROGRAM

GOES ON, AND THE POLICE

DEPARTMENT IS NOT

INVOLVED
ANYMORE.

IT HAPPENS THERE.

IF IT'S NOT

SUCCESSFUL, POLICE

DEPARTMENT DOESN'T KNOW
ABOUT
IT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY FELT

WARRANTED, YOU KNOW,

CRIMINAL
CITATION TO BEGIN WITH.

IT'S ONE OF THE MOST COMMON

TYPES OF
PROGRAMS RUN BY CITIES.

THERE ARE PROGRAMS RUN BY
CITIES

WHERE A POLICE -- NOT RUN BY

CITIES BUT PARTNERED WITH

CITIES, WHERE POLICE DEPARTMENT

MIGHT ISSUE A CRIMINAL CITATION
TO SOMEONE.

RATHER THAN IT BE SENT TO
THE

JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM, THAT
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PERSON IS REFERRED TO
A

RESTORATIVE JUSTICE

PROGRAM

WHICH REPORTS BACK TO THE
POLICE
DEPARTMENT.

AND IF THE PROCESS IS

SUCCESSFUL, YOU KNOW,
THAT'S
SORT OF END OF THE LINE.

IF A PROCESS IS UNSUCCESSFUL FOR

WHATEVER REASON, THE POLICE

DEPARTMENT MAY THEN DECIDE TO
MOVE

FORWARD WITH

REFERRING THE

CITATION TO THE

PROBATION

DEPARTMENT AND JUVENILE
JUST
SYSTEM.

SO AT TIMES IN THE

PAST, YOU

KNOW, SEBASTOPOL AT ONE POINT

HAD GRANT FUNDING
AND

PARTICIPATED IN A PROGRAM
LIKE
THIS.

THAT FUNDING HAS EXPIRED.

IT HASN'T BEEN USED IN A COUPLE
YEARS.

I DO WANT TO NOTE, THOUGH, THIS

PROCESS INVOLVES A

CITATION

BEING ISSUED BY THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.

AND SO WHILE THEY

AREN'TAREN'T

AND PART OF
THE

COUNTY SYSTEM, THERE IS A
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CASE
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REPORT ON THEM IN THE JUVENILES

IN THE CITY'S RECORDKEEPING AND
CITY'S POLICE RECORDS.

AND SO JUVENILE RECORDS ARE

CONFIDENTIAL, BUT IN RESPONSE TO

A LAWFUL SUBPOENA OR COURT ORDER

OR LAWFUL JUDICIAL WARRANT LIKE

THOSE -- THOSE RECORDS WOULD
BE
RELEASED.

THEY EXIST AND WOULD BE
RELEASED.

AND SO I'LL PAUSE THERE.

I THINK THAT SORT OF

SUMMARIZES MOST

OF THE -- THE SORT OF BROAD
OPTIONS.

AND I THINK THE

DISTINCTION

HAVING HEARD SOME QUESTIONS FROM

COUNCIL MEMBER ZOLLMAN, YOU

KNOW, THERE WAS A CONCERN

SPECIFICALLY
ABOUT
FINGERPRINTING.

AND THAT WOULD NOT
HAPPEN

THROUGH A CITATION UNLESS
A

CITATION WAS REFERRED TO THE
COUNTY.

HOWEVER, JUST TO REITERATE

AGAIN, IF A CITATION IS

ISSUED,

WHICH IS REALLY

NECESSARY IF THE

POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO
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MONITOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE

RESTORATIVE JUSTICE PROCESS AND

POTENTIALLY REFER IT
TO

PROBATION AT
A LATER POINT.

A CITATION REALLY DOES NEED
TO
BE ISSUED UP FRONT.

AND WHILE NO

FINGERPRINTING

OCCURS, THAT DOES CREATE A LOCAL

CITATION RECORD IN THE
POLICE
RECORDKEEPING SYSTEM.

WITH THAT I'LL PAUSE AND SEE
IF

THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM
COUNCIL.

THANK YOU.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER
ZOLLMAN.

THANK YOU, ALEX, FOR
THE
REPORT.

YES, THE FINGERPRINTING
IS OF

HIGH CONCERN, AND I'D LIKE
YOU

TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO
THE

PUBLIC ALONG WITH THE CHIEF
THE
CONSEQUENCES OF FINGERPRINTING.

BECAUSE WHAT I HEARD THE CHIEF

SAY BEFORE HE SEEMED EXCITED
AND
PROUD OF HIS ARREST RECORD.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW
THE

CONSEQUENCES TO OUR YOUTH IF
WE

DO GO WITH A PROCESS THAT
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INVOLVES FINGERPRINTING.

WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR

JUVENILES ONCE FINGERPRINTS
ARE
TAKEN BY A POLICE AUTHORITY?
HOW LONG ARE THEY KEPT ON FILE?

WHO HAS ACCESS TO THAT,

MEANING

HIGHER GOVERNMENTAL

AGENCIES,
THE FBI, ET CETERA?

AND PARTICULARLY FOR A BROWN

COMMUNITY WHAT ARE
THE

CONSEQUENCES IMMIGRATION
WISE?

THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS
IN THAT QUESTION.

CAN WE

BREAK THAT DOWN A LITTLE

SO THAT I CAN ATTEMPT TO
ANSWER
IT FOR
YOU?

I JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM
YOU

TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC OF THE

CONSEQUENCES OF

FINGERPRINTING
FOR OUR YOUTH IN PARTICULAR.

HOW LONG DO THEY STAY IN THE

SYSTEM, WHAT OTHER

AGENCIES

HIGHER UP TO INCLUDE THE
FBI

HAVE ACCESS TO THE FACT
THAT

THERE ARE FINGERPRINTS

AVAILABLE, AND IN PARTICULAR
FOR

THE BROWN COMMUNITY, WHAT
ARE

YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF
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THE
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CONSEQUENCES

OF HAVING
FINGERPRINTS LEFT IN THE SYSTEM?
FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED.

WELL, FIRST UP WE
DON'T

MANAGE ANY FINGERPRINT

SYSTEMS,

SO I -- I REALLY

COULDN'T

COMMENT ON HOW THEY HANDLE
THAT
INFORMATION.

THAT WOULD BE LIKE ME

COMMENTING

ON ANOTHER CITY'S HANDLING
OF

RECORDS

OR FLOCK CAMERA RECORDS,

SO I COULDN'T REALLY PROVIDE
YOU

A DEFINITIVE ANSWER ON
THAT.

BUT I WOULD BE ASSUMING
THOSE

RECORDS ARE MAINTAINED
INDEFINITELY.

WHO THEY SHARE THEM WITH I HAVE
NO IDEA.

ARE YOU SAYING THE CITY
OF

SEBASTOPOL DOESN'T TAKE
FINGERPRINTS?
CORRECT.

OKAY.

THEY'RE OBTAINED WHEN PERHAPS

SOMEONE IS ON CUSTODIAL ARREST

AND TRANSFERRED -- IF THEY'RE
AN
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ADULT AND TRANSFERRED TO
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THE

SHERIFF'S OFFICE JAIL, THEY'D
BE

FINGERPRINTED AT THE

SHERIFF'S
OFFICE.

IN THE CASE OF JUVENILE

PROBATION, POSSIBLY THROUGH
THAT
PROCESS.

I DON'T KNOW AT WHAT
POINT

THROUGH THAT PROCESS BECAUSE
WE

DON'T HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT IN
THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINTON.

I'M SURPRISED TO BE HEARING

ABOUT FINGERPRINTS FOR
YOUTH

BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU

COULDN'T ROUTINELY
TAKE
FINGERPRINTS FOR YOUTH.

AM I

NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT
CORRECT?

I'M GLAD WE DON'T DO IT IN

SEBASTOPOL, BUT I

THOUGHT THAT

THAT WASN'T
ALLOWED.

WE HAVE NO INVOLVEMENT IN
THE

PROCESS, SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO
COMMENT ON IT.

OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER
CARTER.

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YEAH, JUST SHIFTING BACK TO

SAFEWAY IS THAT

NECESSARILY
TARGETED?

ANYWAY, YOU'RE MENTIONING
WE

MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE
AN

ORDINANCE THAT KIND

OF AFFECTS

THE WAY SAFEWAY MONITORS
WHAT

HAPPENS AROUND
ITS PROPERTY.

WE COULD ADOPT A

GRAFFITI

ABATEMENT ORDINANCE
THAT

REQUIRES PROPERTY OWNERS,
NOT
JUST
SAFEWAY.

CORRECT.

BUT OTHER COMMERCIAL

PROPERTY

OWNERS TO REMOVE GRAFFITI WITHIN

SPECIFIED PERIODS OF TIME
OR

FACE FINES OR THE RISK OF THE

CITY REMOVING IT AND

CHARGING
THEM FOR THAT.

RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE

ANYTHING ANYWHERE
NEAR

CLOSE TO THAT ALREADY,

WHERE THEY MUST

MAINTAIN, YOU

KNOW, THE PROPERTY
NICELY?
NO.

NOT SOMETHING THAT IS CLEAR AND
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EXPLICIT.

OKAY.

AND HAVE WE DISCUSSED WITH
THEM

ABOUT THE SHAPE OF THE BACK
OF
THE BUILDING?

LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING
A
LESS HABITABLE SPACE?

BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO

BE, YOU
KNOW, NICE.

OR IS THIS TOO DIRECTED MORE A
SPECIFIC PLACE?

IS THAT NOT
APPROPRIATE?
THAT'S A FINE QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW, MAYOR, IF YOU
KNOW

THAT'S COME UP IN
THE
CONVERSATION.

SO FOR THE COUPLE TIMES THAT

WE DID MEET WITH SAFEWAY WE
DID

DISCUSS AREAS BACK THERE,
AND

THEY HAVE STATED THEY COULD NOT

FENCE OFF CERTAIN AREAS IN THAT
BACK AREA.

SO WE HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION
WITH
SAFEWAY.

AND WOULD THIS

BE RECALLING

THE BLIGHT -- WE HAD A BLIGHT

POLICY THAT WE THOUGHT
ABOUT
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REALLY HARD.

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IS THIS SOMETHING THAT KIND
OF

BRINGS IT
BACK?

WELL, THE BLIGHT ORDINANCE

THE COUNCIL CONSIDERED
WAS
BROUGHT.

IT DEALT

WITH ALL TYPES OF
BLIGHT.

IT WAS ALSO DRAFTED TO APPLY
TO

RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY
AND

COMMERCIAL

PROPERTY WHETHER OR

NOT IT WAS VISIBLE FROM
THE

FRONT OR BACK OF
THE STREET.

THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME

DECIDED

RATHER THAT NARROW IT

BY, YOU

KNOW, MAKING IT ONLY APPLY TO

COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, ONLY
APPLY

TO THINGS VISIBLE FROM THE

STREET, JUST TO NOT

MOVE FORWARD
WITH AT IT ALL.

THIS WOULD -- IF YOU DID A

GRAFFITI ORDINANCE, IT WOULD

CONTAIN ELEMENTS, BUT IT WOULD
OMBE ABOUT GRAFFITI.

IT WOULDN'T BE ABOUT OTHER
TYPES

OF BLIGHT LIKE

DISCARDED

FURNITURE OR, YOU KNOW --
YEAH, THAT'S COOL.

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I'M JUST LEANING TOWARDS

HOLDING

THE PROPERTY OWNERS A LITTLE BIT

MORE FOR THE RESPONSIBILITY OF

WHAT HAPPENS TO THEIR PROPERTY
JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO I WOULD LEAN IN THAT
DIRECTION.

TWO QUESTIONS.

HOW DOES GRAFFITI GET CLEANED
UP
NOW?
HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?

THE PROPERTY OWNERS NOW ARE

CLEANING IT UP IS
MY

UNDERSTANDING FROM MARY, THAT

SAFEWAY HAS IN THE PAST

CLEANED
UP THIS GRAFFITI.

I DON'T KNOW THAT EXACT.

WELL, IT USED TO BE
THAT

THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE WHO WERE

GETTING REIMBURSED FOR THE
COST

OF PAINT -- OR BEING
GIVEN

PAINT, AND THEY WOULD
GO

AROUND -- I DON'T KNOW HOW
OFTEN

THEY DID IT, BUT THEY WOULD
BE

COVERING UP -- THEY WERE

VOLUNTEERS, AND THEY
WERE
COVERING UP GRAFFITI.

DOES THAT
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STILL HAPPEN?
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YES, WE HAD -- AND STEVE,
AND

TV WAS ONE OF OUR
PUBLIC
COMMENTATORS EARLIER.

AND THAT'S A VOLUNTEER BASIS.

THEY DO WHAT THEY CAN.

AS FAR AS SAFEWAY AND
THEIR

RESPONSE TO GRAFFITI ON THE

BUILDING, WE MET WITH
THEM

MULTIPLE TIMES ABOUT A

VARIETY

OF ISSUES, THAT BEING ONE OF
THEM.

AND THEY WERE VERY RECEPTIVE TO

HAVING AN EXTENDED PATROL
OF

THEIR OWN FACILITY,

WHICH I

DON'T THINK THEY WERE DOING

BEFORE THAT, WHERE THEY'D
WALK

AROUND THE ENTIRE PREMISES
IN
THE MORN [JUST SORT OF SEE WHAT
THE STATUS OF THINGS WERE.

AND THEY COMMITTED TO ATTEMPTING

TO REMOVE THE GRAFFITI WITHIN
24HOURS

ON THEIR OWN, WHICH I
THOUGHT WAS COMMENDABLE.

AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE THEY'VE
BEEN
DOING THAT.

ALEX, EARLIER IN
YOUR

PRESENTATION YOU SAID THAT
THE

CITY HAS BEEN MEETING WITH
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A
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COUNCIL MEMBER, WITH

SAFEWAY,

WITH NEIGHBORS, SCHOOL, AND THE

POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SOME
STAFF.

AND I JUST WANT TO

DOUBLE-CHECK

WERE THE NEIGHBORS INCLUDED IN

ANY OF THOSE
MEETINGS?

SO THE FIRST THREE

MEETINGS

WAS WITH THE CITY'S -- THE

CHIEF, MYSELF, THE MAYOR AND

SAFEWAY AND ANALEE, I BELIEVE

THOSE WERE BACK IN FEBRUARY
OR

MARCH -- IT WAS THREE

MONTHS IN
THE SPRING.

WE HAVE NOT MET WITH THEM
SINCE
MAY.

WE DID MEET ONCE WITH THE

NEIGHBORS AND RECEIVED THEIR
CONCERNS.

WAS SAFEWAY THERE AS
WELL
THAT TIME?

NO, WE WANTED

TO MEET WITH

INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORS TO
TALK

WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT
THEIR
CONCERNS WERE.

I DID SAY WE DID REACH OUT TO

SAFEWAY AND ANALEE AND WE'VE NOT
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HEARD BACK FROM THEM.

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AT LEAST I'VE NOT HEARD
BACK
FROM
THEM.

I CAN SPEAK FOR THE

CONCLUSION OF THE

MEETING WITH

SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WE
HAD

HERE TONIGHT -- ON MY WAY
BACK

TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
I

ACTUALLY DRIVE ACROSS
THE

SUPERINTENDENT FOR THE SCHOOL

DISTRICT AND I HAD A

CONVERSATION WITH HIM

BASEDBASED ON
THAT.

AND THEY WERE VERY RECEPTIVE TO
IT.

WE DISCUSSED SOME
OF THE

RESIDENTS' CONCERNS
ABOUT

WANTING TO HAVE SOME SORT OF

ANTI-BIAS, ANTI-RACIAL --

ANTI-RACIST TYPE TRAINING IN

THESCHOOL,

THEY SAID THEY ACTUALLY

HAD THAT PROGRAM AND IT'S QUITE
ROBUST.

IRONICALLY THE TEACHER
THAT

TEACHED IT WALKED UP

ON US WHILE

WE WERE CHATTING, SO I DID HAVE
A CHAT WITH HIM AS WELL.

AND I I DID ASK IF THEY'D
LIKE

INVOLVEMENT FROM THE POLICE
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DEPARTMENT, THEY WERE

RECEPTIVE
TO THAT IDEA AS WELL.

THAT'S ALL IN
PROGRESS.

OBVIOUSLY THEY JUST STARTED
A

NEW SCHOOL YEAR, AND
THAT'S

ALREADY
UNDERWAY.

SO INSERTING OURSELVES IN
A

CURRENT CURRICULUM IS NOT
AS

STRAIGHTFORWARD AS IT MAY
SEEM,

BUT THEY WERE RECEPTIVE TO
THOSE

IDEAS THAT YOU CAME UP WITH, AND

WERE HAPPY TO BE
INVOLVED.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER
ZOLLMAN.

YEAH, JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT

ALL THESE MEETINGS THAT AN

ELECTED APPEARED NOT ON BEHALF

OF THE CITY, THAT WAS NOT A

COUNCIL VOTE TO HAVE THAT

ELECTED ATTEND THESE MEETINGS,
CORRECT?
THAT IS CORRECT.

SHE DID THAT AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT

HAVE A VOTED UPON COUNCIL

LIAISON TO ANY OF THESE ISSUES,
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CORRECT?
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THAT
IS CORRECT.

AND JUST TO BE SUPER
CLEAR,

SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY DID
REACH

OUT TO THE PRINCIPAL OF
ANYLEE
FOR

HIS RESPONSE AND AS OF

TODAY, AGAIN, ZERO RESPONSE FROM
THE SCHOOL?
THAT IS CORRECT.

I SENT THEM AN E-MAIL AFTER --
I

CAN GO BACK AND FIND THE
DATE.

I SENT THEM TO ANAPLEE AND
SAFEWAY AND ASKED THEM.

THEY HAD REACHED OUT AND
WANTED

TO KNOW IF IT WAS SEPARATE FROM

THE MEETING WE HAD TAKEN PLACE

BACK IN THE SPRING,

AND THEY

SAID YES, AND THAT WAS THE
LAST

I'D HEARD FROM
THEM.

OKAY.

LOOPING BACK TO THE PAST

EXPERIENCES OF THIS CITY WITH

RESTORATIVE JUSTICE TO TRY TO DO

HOMEWORK IN PREPARATION FOR THIS

MEETING, I DID REACH OUT TO
THE

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
RESTORATIVE RESOURCES.

ALEX, THAT WAS THE ENTITY THAT
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THE CITY WORKED WITH IN THE
PAST, RIGHT?
SHE

DID A PROVIDING SUCCESSFUL
STATISTICS.

AND, ALEX, CAN YOU COMMENT OR

CAN THE CHIEF COMMENT TO
THE

PUBLIC ABOUT THE SUCCESS
RATE

FOR THOSE STUDENTS WHOSE

PARENTS

AGREED TO VOLUNTARILY GO THROUGH
THE PROGRAM?

YEAH, THE STATISTICS

THEY PROVIDED

WERE THAT BETWEEN WHEN

THE PROGRAM ENDED THERE WERE
16 REFERRALS.

ONE PARENT DECLINED
TO

PARTICIPATE
AND 15 YOUTH ENTERED

AND SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THE
PROGRAM.

AND IT WAS ABOUT -- THEY
SAY
IT'S AN AVERAGE OF 15
HOURS

PER -- PER
CASE.

THANK YOU.

AND IN THE STAFF REPORT IT
SAYS

THAT IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS,
THAT

IF WE DO WANT TO HAVE OUR YOUTH

NOT GO THROUGH THE CRIMINAL

JUSTICE SYSTEM, TO
BE

FINGERPRINTED, ET CETERA, ET
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CETERA, WE WOULD NEED TO
RAISE
THE FUNDING.

AND I DID REACH OUT TO THE SAME
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

MARY, I THINK YOU WERE ON THE
E-MAIL.

SHE IS AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE A

PROPOSAL FOR HOW MUCH THAT WOULD
COST.

IS THAT CORRECT,
MARY?
THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

I JUST GOT THE E-MAIL RIGHT

BEFORE, SO I NEED TO GO AND
REVIEW

IT, BUT THAT WAS MY

UNDERSTANDING ON A QUICK
GLANLS
OF
IT.

OKAY,
THANKS.

COUNCIL
MEMBER CARTER.

I KNOW WE KEEP BRINGING UP

ANALEE BUT THERE ARE YOUNGER
SCHOOLS ALSO IN THE AREA.

DO WE KNOW HOW THEY
ARE

EDUCATING ABOUT RACISM AND
STUFF
LIKE THAT?

SO WE KNOW IT'S NOT
MIDDLE

SCHOOLERS -- OR I DID HEAR THAT

BROOKHAVEN MAY HAVE HAD AN
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ISSUE

WITH RACISM AS WELL,

AND, YOU

KNOW, ARE WE ADDRESSING IT AT

EARLIER AGES AND TRYING TO HELP
THAT
ALONG?
IS THAT DIRECTED AT ME, SIR?

HAPPY TO --
DO
EVERYTHING.

WELL, I HAVEN'T HAD
ANY

CONVERSATIONS WITH BROOKHAVEN ON

THIS TOPIC AND I'M NOT AWARE OF

ANY ACTUAL INCIDENTS

OF, YOU

KNOW, RACISM OR SO FORTH AT
THE

SCHOOL OR PROVIDED TO THE
SCHOOL

OR ANY RELATIONSHIP TO SAFEWAY

EITHER WITH THAT PARTICULAR
SCHOOL.

THERE'S ALWAYS THE INFERENCE
THAT THEY'RE ANA LEE STUDENTS.

THAT'S JUST THE STANDARD

INFERENCE BECAUSE OF THE
PROXIMITY TO SAFEWAY.

YEAH.

SO THE PEOPLE THAT
HAVE

RECENTLY -- THE GRAFFITIGRAFFITI
KNOW

WE DID IT, LIKE THE MOST
RECENT
CASES?
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YEAH, I DON'T RECALL
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THE

DATES BUT IT

WAS I THINK BACK IN
APRIL AND SO FORTH.

YEAH, THEY WERE APPREHENDED
WITHIN 24 HOURS ALL FOUR OF THEM

AND CITED, TECHNICALLY AN
ARREST.

BECAUSE WE TOOK THE
MATTER

SERIOUSLY AND INVESTIGATED
IT

THOROUGHLY AND REFERRED THEM
TO
JUVENILE PROBATION.

AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE WE

HAVEN'T

HAD ANY INSTANCES OF THAT
REALLY
SINCE.

THAT SORT OF TOOK CARE OF THAT

ISSUE, SO

PERHAPS THOSE

PARTICULAR FOUR WERE THE REPEAT

OFFENDERS, IF WE LOOK AT
IT IN
THAT LIGHT.

SEEMS
RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER
ZOLLMAN.

TO RESPOND TO COUNCIL MEMBER

CARTER'S QUESTION TO OUR POLICE

CHIEF, I WILL REFER BACK TO
AN

AGENDA ITEM THAT I BROUGHT
BACK
IN MARCH OF 2025.

THERE, IN FACT, WAS A RESPONSE

FROM THE CHAIR OF THEIR
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BOARD
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ALONG WITH THE PRINCIPAL, SARAH

GRAHAM, BECAUSE I HAD REACHED

OUT ABOUT THE BULLYING THAT
WAS

GOING ON AT BROOKHAVEN AND
THE
SUICIDE OF A 10-YEAR-OLD.

THAT LETTER IS PART OF
THE

PUBLIC COMMENT ASSOCIATED
WITH
THAT AGENDA ITEM.

SHE STATES THE FACT THAT THEY

ARE AGREEABLE TO HAVING A CITY

COUNCIL SLASH SCHOOL

DISTRICT
MEETING.

I BROUGHT IT UP.

I THINK SOME OF MY

COLLEAGUES

WERE LIKE WE SHOULD JUST

STAY IN

OUR LANE AND WE SHOULD JUST
LET

THE SCHOOLS DO WHAT THE

SCHOOLS
ARE GOING TO DO.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET

YOU KNOW
THAT HAS BEEN APPROACHED.

WHY I THINK IT'S RELEVANT TO

THIS CONVERSATION IS
THAT

EVENTUALLY WHEN WE GET TO
PUBLIC

COMMENT I THINK THE PRINCIPAL
OF

ANA LEE SHOULD AND

HOPEFULLY

WOULD BE INTERESTED IN
DOING

SOME JOINT FUNDING FOR A

PROGRAM

BECAUSE ALL THESE SCHOOLS ARE
FEEDER SCHOOLS.

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IF THE RACISM STARTS
IN THE

ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, IT'S GOING
TO FEED INTO THE HIGH SCHOOLS.

SO THAT IS JUST WHAT I WANTED
TO

BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, BUT
THANKS.

OKAY, WE CAN GO OUT TO PUBLIC
COMMENT, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO THIS IS FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT

FOR THE ITEM REGARDING

SAFEWAY

AND THE GRAFFITI AND
THE
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE MODEL.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC

COMMENT, AGAIN, IT IS
TWO
MINUTES.

I GO TO CHAM FIRST AND THEN
GO
OUT TO ZOOM.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN
CHAMBERS.

PLEASE.

COUNCIL MEMBERS

AND MEMBERS

OF THE PUBLIC, MY NAME

IS CYNTHIA
BRADLEY.

I LIVE ON JOHNSON STREET RIGHT
ACROSS FROM THE POLICE STATION.

I'M GOING TO READ YOU

A LETTER
THAT I'M GOING TO SUBMIT TO YOU.

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DEAR COUNCIL MEMBERS, DURING
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THE

PAST YEAR MEMBERS OF OUR

COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN HURT
BY

RACIST ACTIONS IN
THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS RACISM IS NOT UNIQUE TO ONE
NEIGHBORHOOD OR ONE EVENT.

ACCORDING TO SOME PARENTS I
HAVE

SPOKEN WITH, THERE HAVE
BEEN

ONGOING RACIST AND
OTHER

BULLYING IN OUR SCHOOLS FOR A
NUMBER OF YEARS.

AS A COMMUNITY WE ARE
ALL

RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING A

WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR
EVERYONE IN OUR TOWN.

SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE

STEPPED UP TO CREATE A
SAFE

PRESENCE BEHIND SAFEWAY
TO
PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORS.

SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE

APPROACHED THE WEST COUNTY
HIGH

SCHOOL BOARD AND ANA LEE
HIGH
SCHOOL.

WE HAVE COMING TOGETHER
TO

CREATE A NUMBER OF WAYS
TO

PREVENT HARMFUL BEHAVIOR AND
TO

MAKE IT CLEAR THAT OUR TOWN DOES

NOT TOLERATE RACISM OR ANY OTHER
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FORM OF BOULE YG.BOULE YG.BULLYING.

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WHAT WILL THE COUNCIL STEP UP
TO
DO?

BUSINESSES IN OUR TOWN MUST BE

RESPONSIBLE MUST MAINTAINING
THE
KIND OF TOWN WE EXPECT.

ANA LEE HIGH SCHOOL,

PARKSIDE

SCHOOL, BROOKHAVEN MIDDLE

SCHOOL, SEBASTOPOL CHARTER

SCHOOL, AND SUNRIDGE

CHARTER

SCHOOL WITH WITHIN

SEBASTOPOL
CITY LIMITS.

CYNTHIA, YOU HAVE 20
SECONDS.

THE COUNCIL SHOULD

REQUIRE

THAT THESE SCHOOLS MEET

REGULARLY WITH THE CITY

COUNCIL

TO DISCUSS THE SKIEL ENVIRONMENT

AND HOW THE SCHOOLS

PROMOTE

RESPONSIBLE INTERACTIONS WITH
THE
WIDER COMMUNITY.

THE COUNCIL'S RESOLUTION
6403-2022 PASSED IN FEBRUARY
2022 IS A POWERFUL

STATEMENT

ADDRESSING THE KIND

OF TOWN --

CYNTHIA THAT'S YOUR TWO
MINUTES.

CAN YOU SUPPORT POLICY FOR
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THIS
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RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

MARY, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE THE TIMER?
YES.

GREAT.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

MY NAME IS MARY WYMAN.

I'M A NURSE-PRACTITIONER AND
I'VE LIVED IN SEBASTOPOL FOR 42

YEARS, CURRENTLY RIGHT NEAR
ANA
LEE HIGH SCHOOL.

ON MAY 28th OF THIS YEAR AT 3:30

I WAS WAITING FOR AN

APPOINTMENT

AT PIT AND HEALEY RIGHT NEAR

SAFEWAY WHEN I COULD HEAR
THESE

NOISES THAT WERE

CLEARLY
HARASSMENT, MENACING.

THEY
GOT LOUDER.

I STARTED TO WALK TOWARDS THEM.

IT WAS THREE OR FOUR

TEENAGE
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BOYS RIGHT IN THE AREA WE
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ALL

KNOW JUMPING UP AND DOWN
MAKING

APE NOISES, AND THEY
WERE

DIRECTING THEM AT THE APARTMENT
ACROSS THE STREET.

THERE WAS ALSO GRAFFITI BEHIND
THEM.

IT WAS A PENIS AND

TESTICLES,

AND WHEN I SAID WHAT ARE YOU
GUYS DOING, THEY SAID NOTHING.

WHEN I PULLED OUT MY PHONE AND

SAID I CAN FILM YOU SINCE
YOU'RE

DOING NOTHING, THEN THEY

STARTED
TO RUN.

ONE OF THEM SAID YOU CAN'T
FILM

US BECAUSE WE'RE
MINORS.

WHEN I RETURNED TO THE

APARTMENT

AND FOUND OUT WHO ACTUALLY LIVES
THERE, I WAS SO SADDENED.

I CALLED BECAUSE IT'S A
LOVELY

FAMILY AND THEY'VE
BEEN
TARGETING REPEATEDLY.

I CALLED THE POLICE TO REPORT
IT

AND WAS TOLD A CAR WOULD COME
BY

AND THAT SURVEILLANCE WOULD

INCREASE, BUT APPARENTLY
THE

RESPONSE WAS SO MINIMAL AND, IN

FACT, I THINK SO

DISAPPOINTING

TO THE FAMILY THAT IT WASN'T
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UNTIL THE SEBASTOPOL TIMES DID
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THE ARTICLE.

THANK YOU, LAURA, FOR DOING
THAT.

THAT THEY REALLY FELT
SOME
SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY.

SO MY STATEMENT IS WE
REALLY

NEED TO DO SOMETHING REALLY

CONCERTED AND SERIOUS TO

ADDRESS

THIS SO THAT OUR FAMILIES
OF

COLOR FEEL SUPPORTED AND SAFE
IN
THEIR HOME.

IT WAS HAPPENING RIGHT

IN THEIR
FRONT YARD.

ALSO I THINK YOU ALL NEED TO BE

INFORMED FOR PRESS DEMOCRAT DID

AN ARTICLE ABOUT

BROOKHAVEN
SCHOOL.

PRESS DEMOCRAT STORY, QUOTE,
NOTHING IS BEING DONE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

HI.

MY NAME'S -- I'M
A 23-YEAR
RESIDENT OF SEBASTOPOL.

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AND JUST FOR THE SAKE
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OF

EVERYONE LISTENING ON ZOOM
AND

STUFF TO PUT THIS IN CONTEXT
WHAT HAPPENED ON APRIL 27th
WAS

BOYS THAT LIVED HERE IN

SEBASTOPOL AND GREW UP HERE
WITH

FAMILIES FELT EMBOLDENED DURING

THE DAY TO GO BEHIND

SAFEWAY AND

SPRAY PAINT SWASTIKAS AND WRITE
"HITLER WAS RIGHT" AND ADVOCATE

FOR THE KILLING OF BLACK
PEOPLE.

TEENAGE BOYS DOING THAT HERE
IN
PEACE TOWN.

AND THIS WAS KIND OF -- JUST
TO

PUT IT IN CONTEXT HERE

AND, YOU

KNOW, MARY'S TALKING ABOUT
HOW

THEY'RE MOCKING THESE
YOUNG

BLACK GIRLS THAT LIVE ACROSS
THE
STREET.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY

IMPORTANT

TO PUT THIS IN CONTEXT IN
THE

SENSE OF THE OUTRAGE AND TO HAVE
A SENSE OF URGENCY AROUND THIS.

THE FIRST INCIDENT

HAPPENING
BACK IN APRIL 27th.

YOU KNOW, COMPLEX HERE

BECAUSE
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOLS.

AND, AGAIN, THIS IS THE
WEST

COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, SO
WE'RE
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GETTING INTO
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DIFFERENT

BUREAUCRATIC

AREAS, BUT THIS

ISN'T -- WE'RE DOING
A
DISSERVICE.

WE'RE DOING A DISSERVICE
TO

THESE BOYS WHO FEEL

THAT THEY

CAN GO OUT IN PUBLIC AND ACT
THIS
WAY.

YOU KNOW.

SAFEWAY, THIS IS A REAL

PROBLEM

IN THIS
AREA.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS
AGO

A WOMAN WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED

IN THIS SAME AREA,
YOU KNOW?
A CAMERA.

A CAMERA NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

I MEAN

SAFEWAY, HOW MANY PEOPLE

GO IN THERE, HOW MUCH MONEY
ARE
THEY MAKING OFF OF US, RIGHT?
THEY CAN'T PUT A CAMERA?

WE TALKED TO THE THEN-MANAGER AT

THE TIME AND HE SAID OH,
IT

WON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, WE
HAVE
A CAMERA IN FRONT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE.

YOU KNOW, THEY PUT UP SOME
SIGNS

LATELY BEHIND THE BACK SAYING NO

LOITERING AND THE KIDS
ARE
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LOITERING BEHIND
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THE SIGNS.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 20
SECONDS.

SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS A
CAMERA FROM SAFEWAY.

AND WHAT'S GOING ON

WITH THE
SCHOOL HERE?

THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PROBLEM
WITH RACISM AT THE SCHOOL.

WE HEARD FROM A LOT OF

STUDENTS

THERE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING BEEN
GOING ON.

AGAIN I THINK WITH THE

OUTRAGE

WE NEED TO HAVE A SENSE OF
URGENCY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT, I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?
YES, I
CAN.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEE
THE TIMER?
YES, I
CAN.

GREAT.

GO
AHEAD, PLEASE.

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GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

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WOODY HASTINGS HERE.

FIRST I NEED TO SAY I AM
NOT

SPEAKING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF
THE CLIMATE CENTER.

I KNOW THE FEATURE TO
RENAME

YOURSELF IN ZOOM HERE HAS BEEN

DISABLED SWROESH

DISABLED IN

ZOOM HERE, SO I'M

UNABLE TO TAKE THAT OFF, SO
JUST
SPEAKING FOR MYSELF TONIGHT.

THIS IS SUPER DISTURBING AND
I

READ IN THE SUBTIMES HOW
THE

FAMILY FELT THE COMMUNITY
WASN'T
STEPPING UP.

I'M REALLY TRYING TO ADD MY

VOICE TO THOSE STANDING IN

SOLIDARITY THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE
IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CITY

SHOULD APPROACH THIS

WITH -- YOU

KNOW, WITH A RESTORATIVE JUSTICE
APPROACH.

YOU KNOW, THESE ARE -- THESE
ARE

MISGUIDED YOUTH, AND I
THINK
THEY NEED SOME HELP.

THEY NEED SOME EDUCATION.

AND, YOU KNOW, IN MY WORK,
I

WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS
ALL
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AROUND THE STATE THAT ARE
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--

THAT ARE STRUGGLING
WITH

ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM AND
OTHER
FORMS OF RACISM.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS -- WHAT'S

HAPPENED HERE IS -- IN A
WAY

IT'S NOT -- IT'S A MANIFESTATION

OF SOMETHING

VERY PREVALENT AND

REEMERGING IN OUR

SOCIETY

BECAUSE OF THE DYNAMICS ATAT
FEDERAL AND NATIONAL LEVEL.

IT'S SOMETHING NOT KIND OF
A
FLASH IN THE PAN UNIQUE THING.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS
TO

BE DEALT WITH COLLECTIVELY AS A

COMMUNITY, AND IN A THOUGHTFUL
AND CAREFUL WAY.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO

CRIMINALIZE
PEOPLE.

WE DON'T WANT TO LAY A
HEAVY
HAND.

SO, ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO CHIME

IN WITH SUPPORT FOR THAT
FAMILY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, WOODY, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

GOOD EVENING.

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I WOULD LIKE TO START BY

CLEARLY

STATING THAT I STAND IN

COMPLETE

SOLIDARITY AND SYMPATHY WITH
THE

PEOPLE WHO WERE INSULTED, HURT,

VICTIMIZED EVEN BY THE

HATEFUL

AND IGNORANT RACIST GRAFFITI
AND
TAUNTS FROM A WHILE BACK.

THAT IS COMPLETELY

UNACCEPTABLE,

AND IT IS NOT IN

THE CHARACTER
OF OUR CITY.

WE STRIVE TO BE A CITY
THAT
CARES ABOUT PEOPLE, ALL PEOPLE.

AND IT IS GOOD THAT WE
COME

TOGETHER TO RESTATE
THIS

PRINCIPAL WHENEVER INCIDENTS
OCCUR THAT UNDERMINE IT.

THE YOUTH WHO ARE

RESPONSIBLE

FOR CAUSING THIS SERIOUS
HURT

SHOULD DEFINITELY BE HELD

ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR

ACTIONS

BUT I DO NOT

BELIEVE JUVENILE
DETENTION IS THE ANSWER.

IT IS INSTEAD A PLACE OF
PUNITIVE CONTROL.

WE SHOULD LOOK TO INSTEAD
TO

RESTORATIVE JUSTICE AS THE
CITY
COUNCIL SUGGESTED.

THIS IS A PROBLEM OF SOCIETY AND
CULTURE.

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THERE IS NOT A GREAT ANSWER TO
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PROBLEMATIC RACIST
INDOCTRINATION.

I DO WONDER, HOWEVER, IF WE

COULD ASK ANA LEE HIGH SCHOOL
IF

THEY WOULD BE ASKED TO TEACH --

INFLUENCERS AND PROVOCATEURS
ARE

PUSHING THIS CONTENT
INTO

ALGORITHMS THAT ARE MODERN YOUNG
PERP'S CONSTANT COMPANION.

FOR INSTANCE JUST THIS
LAST

YIELD THE KIA CENTER HAD A

MIXEDMIXED

ARTS FIGHT INCLUDING
A

KNOWN NEO-NAZI WHO CALLED
HIMSELF THE GYPSY CRUSADER.

AFTER WINNING THE FIGHT HE WAS
SEEN GIVING A NAZI SALUTE.

THIS HAS NOT BEEN IN THE MAIN

STREAM NEWS, FACEBOOK,

INSTAGRAM, AND X ALL HAVE
LINKS
TO IT.

OUR LITTLE BUBBLE OF PEACE IN

SEBASTOPOL IS NOT ERVIOUS TO

ALGORITHM

SOCIETAL ROT AND

SEBASTOPOL HAS COMMUNITY IN
ABUNDANCE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

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KYLE, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
I CAN.

CAN YOU SEE
THE TIMER?

NO, YOU CAN LET ME
KNOW.

OKAY, GO AHEAD
PLEASE.

I SUPPORT AN APPROACH TO

RESTORATIVE JUSTICE BUT ONLY
IF

IT MEANS OUTSIDE THE

CRIMINAL
LEGAL SYSTEM.

STAFF PROVIDES THAT

POSSIBILITY

BUT DOES NOT YET ESTABLISH
THE
NECESSARY PRECES.

THE LOCAL

ORGANIZATIONS

MENTIONED IN THE REPORT
HAVE

EXPERIENCE WORKING
WITH

PROBATIONS COURTS AND
SCHOOLS.

THAT EXPERIENCE MAY BE VALUABLE

BUT MERELY HIRING A NON-PROFIT

DOES NOT CREATE AN INDEPENDENT
PROCESS.

COUNCIL SHOULD REQUIRE A

WRITTEN
FIREWALL.

WHO WOULD
REFER PARTICIPANTS?

WOULD POLICE REPORTS OR NAMES
BE
GIVEN A FACILITATOR?
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COULD ANYTHING SAID BE
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DISCLOSED

TO PROBATION,

PROSECUTORS, OR
SCHOOL DISCIPLINARY OFFICIALS?

COULD WITHHOLDING OR FAILING
TO

COMPLETE THE PROCESS RESULT IN
DISCIPLINE?

WHO WOULD KEEP THE RECORDS
AND
FOR HOW LONG?

MORE IMPORTANTLY PARTICIPATION

BY THE HARMED CHILD AND

FAMILYFAMILY

MUST BE GENUINELY
VOLUNTARY.

THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO
MEET

DIRECTLY WITH THE PEOPLE

RESPONSIBLE, RECOUNT
THEIR

EXPERIENCE

FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S

BENEFIT OR ACCEPT AN APOLOGY
AS

THE PRICE OF RECEIVING
CITY
SUPPORT.

CITY ATTORNEY HAS ALSO
WARNED

HAVING POLICE CITE WHO
ENTERS

THE PROGRAM

WHETHER

PARTICIPATION WAS SUCCESSFUL
AND

WHETHER A CASE SHOULD ENTER

PROSECUTION WOULD CREATE
LEGAL
AND PROCEDURAL CONCERNS.

THAT WOULD ALSO MEAN THE

PROCESS

WAS NOT TRULY INDEPENDENT OF
LAW
ENFORCEMENT.

SO MY CENTRAL QUESTION
WAS THIS.

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IF COUNCIL INTENDS TO BE A

COMMUNITY PROCESS OUTSIDE OF
THE

CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM, WILL
THE

CITY PUT THAT INDEPENDENCE IN

WRITING

BY PROHIBITING

INFORMATION SHARING WITH

POLICE,

PROBATION, PROSECUTORS,
AND

SCHOOL DISCIPLINE EXCEPT
FOR

NARROWLY DEFINED LEGAL
OR
IMMEDIATE SAFETY OBLIGATIONS?

PLEASE ESTABLISH THESE

PROTECTIONS

BEFORE SELECTING A

PROVIDER OR ASKING

AFFECTED

FAMILIES TO
PARTICIPATE.

THAURNG, NK YOU, KYLE, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

I LIVE IN SEBASTOPOL.

I'VE BEEN LIVING IN
SONOMA
COUNTY FOR OVER 40 YEARS, AND
I

LEFT FOR A WHILE, AND
I'M BACK.

AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THE LAST
YEAR.

SO ANYWAY MY COMMENT IS
TEN

YEARS AGO A FAMILY CAME TO THE

HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION
AND

SPOKE ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE FOR
THEIR SON AT ANA LEE.

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A YOUNG BOY SPOKE, THE PARENTS
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SPOKE, AND IT WAS AN

UNDERSTATEMENT OF HOW HEART

BREAKING IT WAS TO HEAR THIS
FAMILY.

FAST FORWARD TO 2026 AND

HERE WE

ARE DOING WITH THE RACISM AT
ANA
LEE.

NOW, IT HAS BEEN SOME TIME
SINCE

MY SIX KIDS WENT TO

SCHOOL,
RIGHT?

THEY'RE ALL GROWN UP NOW, BUT

THIS PROBLEM CONTINUES AND
HAS

BEEN GOING ON AND REARS ITS
UGLY
HEAD FOR 40 YEARS

BECAUSE
SOMEBODY I KNOW WHO IS 40
KNEW
ABOUT THIS AT ANA LEE 40 YEARS
AGO.NEW TO YOU OR
ME,
OKAY?

THE PROBLEM WITH ANA LEE EXISTED
LIKE I SAID LONG AGO.

I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT ANA
LEE

OFFICIALS HAVE PROBABLY TRIED TO

STEM THE TIDE, BUT THE

CURRENT

POLITICAL CLIMATE WE
HAVE

LEADERS WHO WANT TO REPRESENT

OUR COMMUNITIES IN AN INCLUSIVE

WAY -- I MEAN, WHERE DO OUR
KIDS

OFTEN GET THEIR MORAL

COMPASS
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FROM BUT FROM THEIR ELDERS?
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AND, OKAY, MY QUESTION TODAY
NOW

IS WHAT IF ANYTHING IS
BEING
DONE?

I JUST SPOKE ABOUT IT BRIEFLY
TONIGHT.

YOU HAVE ABOUT
15 SECONDS.

I KNOW IT'S A RUMOR BUT
I

WANT TO KNOW IF IT'S TRUE
THAT

ANA LEE AND SAFEWAY AND
THE

POLICE ARE REALLY TAKING THIS
SERIOUSLY?

THEY'RE NOT TAKING
THIS
SERIOUSLY IT SEEMS LIKE.

I WANT TO KNOW HOW LONG
THE

CULPRIT IS EXPECTED TO BE
EXPELLED FROM SCHOOL?

HAVE THEY BEEN EXPELLED FROM
SCHOOL?

THAT'S TWO MINUTES FOR
PUBLIC
COMMENT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I

THOUGHT

THERE WAS ZERO-TOLERANCE AT ANA
LEE, AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS.

THANK
YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR
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PUBLIC
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COMMENT.

NEXT, I'LL GO OUT
TO ZOOM.

ROB, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YEAH, THANK YOU.

I CAN'T SEE YOUR TIMER, BUT
THAT'S OKAY.

IT SHOULD BE QUICK.

I GUESS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
NOAIS
REALLY ROUND TWO OF THIS.

SOMEONE BROUGHT IT UP

EARLIER

THAT WE DID HAVE SOME ISSUES AT

BROOKHAVEN WITH RACISM, AND
IT'S
ACTUALLY QUITE A BIG ISSUE.

IT HIT THE NEWSPAPER TWO TIMES
IN

THE PD AND TWO TIMES IN THE
SEBASTOPOL TIMES.

AND IT KIND OF DIED DOWN.

THEY CAME TO THE CITY COUNCIL
AND IT ALSO KIND OF DIED DOWN.

NOW IT'S BACK UP AGAIN,
AND I

THINK SOME OF THE SAME
PEOPLE

ARE SPEAKING ABOUT HOW IT'S BACK
AGAIN.

IT NEVER REALLY LEFT.

ONE THING THAT WE ADVOCATED

BEFORE AND MAYBE NOW IS
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NECESSARY TOO IS MORE
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-- MORE
COMPLETE COMMUNICATION.

WE WANTED THE
SCHOOL

ADMINISTRATION TO ENGAGE WITH US

AS PARENTS AND ITIZENS TO
BE

ABLE TO BE INVOLVED IN

BUILDING

A DIFFERENT WAY OF THINKING
FOR

THE STUDENTS, THAT THEY
WERE
RELUCTANT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

IT SOUNDS LIKE CITY COUNCIL OR

CITY REPRESENTATIVES ARE

MEETING

WITH SCHOOL BOARD OFFICIALS OR

PRINCIPALS, AND, YOU KNOW --

LIKE I HAD NO IDEA THAT
THOSE
MEETINGS WERE GOING ON.

SO THAT KIND OF,
LIKE,

COMMUNICATION WITH THE

CITIZENSHIP OF -- SORRY,
THE

CITIZENS OF SEBASTOPOL IN A

BROAD WAY THAT SAYS THESE ARE

THE THINGS THAT HAVE
BEEN

HAPPENING, THESE ARE THE
TALK

HAPPENING, THIS IS WHAT'S
BEEN

GOING ON INSTEAD OF IT COMING
UP

AND THEN DISAPPEARING WHEN IT'S
NOT AN EMERGENCY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ROB, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

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NEXT I'LL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

HI, MY NAME IS CHRISTY.

AND I'M THE PARENT OF TWO
BLACK

CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN RAISED
IN
SEBASTOPOL AGES 16 TO 19.

I WILL START BY SAYING I DID
NOT

SEND EITHER OF MY CHILDREN
TO

ANA LEE BECAUSE OF THE LONG

HISTORY OF RACISM AT ANA
LEE

INCLUDING LOST CIVIL
RIGHTS

CASES THAT WERE BROUGHT --
THAT

PEOPLE WON AGAINST ANA LEE THAT

WERE NOT HANDLING RACIST ISSUES
WELL.

AND THE FACT MY DAUGHTER
WAS

SITTING AT A BASKETBALL GAME
AND

WATCHING PEOPLE MAKING
MONKEY

NOISES AT IT PLAYERS YEARS AGO
WHICH SOLIDIFIED MY DECISION.

THERE'S ALSO AN UNDERLYING ISSUE
OF RACISM IN THIS COMMUNITY.

BUILDING ON WHAT THE

LAST PERSON

JUST SAID, WE JUST SAW IN
THIS

ROOM THAT THERE'S NOT A
VERY

COHERENT PLAN OR

COMMUNICATION

BETWEEN ALL THE

DIFFERENT

AGENCIES AND LEADERS WHO ARE
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HELPING TO PROTECT THE SAFETY
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OF
OUR COMMUNITY.

WE NEED TO HAVE THE POLICE
CHIEF

AWARE OF WHAT HAPPENED AT
BROOKHAVEN.

WE NEED TO HAVE OTHER

COMMUNITY

COUNCIL MEMBERS AWARE OF
WHAT'S

HAPPENING IN ALL THESE

DIFFERENT

AREAS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING TO

THE FAMILY SAID THAT

LIVE HERE
AND CENTERING ALL THOSE VOICES.

THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS TO
BECOME

MORE COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING

UNCOMFORTABLE QUESTIONS
ABOUT

RACE RACE
ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND THESE THOSE PEOPLE

TRAINED

TALKING TO OUR SCHOOLS AND

TALKING TO OUR BUSINESSES
SO WE

CAN CONTINUE HAVING A

CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE
CAN

ACTIVELY WORK AGAINST RACISM
AND

NOT JUST SIT HERE PRIVILEGED IN
OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR OUR YOUR TIME AND

I HOPE WE CAN ACTUALLY CONTINUE

THIS CONVERSATION MOVING

FORWARD

AND HAVE BETTER COHERENCE IN
OUR

COMMUNITY TO ACTUALLY DO
SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

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THANK YOU SO
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MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I'LL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

MARGARET, CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF,
PLEASE?

I'M SORRY, CAN YOU SEE
THE
TIMER?
YES, I
CAN.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

HELLO.

GOOD
TO ME AT THIS MEETING.

MY NAME IS MARGARET.

I'VE LIVED IN SEBASTOPOL
FOR
OVER # 12 YEARS.

I KNOW WE CALL OURSELVES PEACE

TOWN, AND I'M AWARE THIS
NAME

ALONE CANNOT ENSURE A PEACEFUL
LIFE FOR ALL.

IT'S ASPIRATIONAL.

I'M NOT SURPRISED TO LEARN

THEREHAVE

BEEN RACIST ACTIONS

AGAINST

COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT I'M
DEEPLY SADDENED.

AS WE'VE SAID TONIGHT SO
MANY

PEOPLE HAVE SAID WE CAN'T
TURN

AWAY FROM
THESE FACTS.

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THE LATEST ACTION OF ANA LEE A SAFEWAY,
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THESE

HORRIFIC ACTS REMINDS US

ADDRESSING RACIST,

DISCRIMINATORY AND HATEFUL
ACTION IS AN ONGOING PROCESS.

IT'S NEVER A ONE AND DONE.

SO AS A COMMUNITY WE'RE
BEING

CALLED TO ADDRESS THE

ACTIONS OF

SOME OF THE STUDENTS AT
OUR
LOCAL SCHOOLS.

WHAT'S THE ANSWER?
I'M NOT SURE.

THERE'S GREAT IDEAS
PASSED

AROUND HERE TONIGHT, BUT I
THINK

IF WE GET TOGETHER WE CAN FIGURE
IT OUT.

AND I'M ASKING THIS -- THE CITY

TO TAKE LEADERSHIPLEADERSHIP AND

CONVENE

REGULAR MEETINGS WITH

SAFEWAY,

ANA LEE, PARKSIDE,

BROOKHAVEN, THE

CHARTER SCHOOL TO

DISCUSS

WHAT STEPS THE SCHOOLS AND

BUSINESSES ARE TAKING AND
CAN

TAKE TO CREATE A SAFE

SPACE FOR
ALL STUDENTS.

OUR KIDS NEED OUR LEADERSHIP
TO

HELP THEM NAVIGATE THIS
WORLD

WHERE RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION

CONTINUE TO BE BAKED INTO OUR
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COUNTRY'S POLICIES.

AND EVEN THE PRESIDENT
SAYS

HORRIFIC INSULTING COMMENTS,
HATEFUL COMMENTS REGULARLY.

HOW ARE OUR KIDS SUPPOSED TO ACT
DIFFERENTLY?

WE HAVE TO TEACH THEM,

SO LET'S

PUT -- I REALLY APPRECIATE
Y'ALL

PASSED THAT RESOLUTION THAT
WAS

NAMED EARLIER, BUT LET'S PUT

SOME TEETH IN IT AND COME UP PLAPLAN TO MAKE

SEBASTOPOL

MORE LIKE A TOWN OF PEACE AND
EQUALITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU,

MARGARET, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

HI, I'M SUSAN LAMONT.

I DO NOT LIVE IN SEBASTOPOL, BUT

MY NAME IS ON THE PEACE WALL

SO -- AND I KNOW LOTS OF
PEOPLE

IN SEBASTOPOL AND THEY'VE
BEEN
TALKING ABOUT THIS TO ME.

AND I WAS DRIVING THIS MORNING
AND LISTENING TO KPFA.

AND THERE WAS AN ATTORNEY
ON

THERE WHO WAS TALKING
ABOUT

ENDING FAMILY COURT AND

TALKING
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ABOUT THE HARMS THAT ARE DONE TO
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YOUNG PEOPLE AND CHILDREN

THROUGH EXTREME LEGAL

PROCEEDINGS

THAT HAVE
REAL

SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES
FOR
CHILDREN.

AND SHE HAS WRITTEN A BOOK,
AND,

YOU KNOW, I CAN GIVE YOU HER
NAME AND HER ORGANIZATION.

BUT OTHER WAYS TO HANDLE
THIS

AND PROBABLY MOST OF THEM ARE
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE.

THERE'S ALSO A BOOK THAT
I READ

A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO BY A
WOMAN

WHO RUNS AN ORGANIZATION ON
THE

EAST COAST, AND IT EXPLAINS

RESTORATIVE JUSTICE AND
HOW

SUCCESSFUL THEIR STUDIES
SAY IT

IS AND ALL THE THINGS --
THE

WAYS IN WHICH IT HAS HELPED
PEOPLE.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SUSPENDING
A

CHILD OR EXPELLING A CHILD OR

GETTING THEM INVOLVED IN
THE

LEGAL SYSTEM PROBABLY SENDS THEM

ON THE WRONG PATH, NOT ON THE
RIGHT PATH.

BUT RESTORATIVE JUSTICE

PROGRAMS

VARY A GREAT DEAL, AND I KNOW
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SOMEONE WHO WORKED WITH
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THE

RESTORATIVE JUSTICE SYSTEM IN

SANTA ROSA WHO QUIT

BECAUSE HE
SAID IT WAS SO WEAK.

AND THEN A TEACHER IN

PETALUMA

INVITED ME TO SIT IN ON
A

STUDENT RESTORATIVE JUSTICE

MEETING, WHERE THEY COULDN'T
SEE

ME AND I COULDN'T SEE
THEM.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 15
SECONDS.

OKAY, I WAS APPALLED.

IT WAS
SO FEEBLE.

SO I BELIEVE IN RESTORATIVE

JUSTICE, BUT YOU REALLY NEED
TO

STUDY THE PROGRAMS TO LOOK
FOR

ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE GOOD

BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE
NOT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

I WILL GO OUT TO ZOOM.

SARAH, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
HI.

MY NAME'S SARAH, AND I'M ONE OF
THE

RESIDENTS ON PIT AVENUE WHO

REPORTED THE RACIST GRAFFITI
TO
THE POLICE.

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AND I WANTED TO START BY
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SAYING

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE IN
THE

COMMUNITY THAT'S REACHED OUT AND
SHOWN
A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR US.

WE'VE HAD A GROUP OF MOMS
THAT

HANG OUT, A LOT OF CHALK
AND

ARTWORK THAT HAVE BEEN THERE

TO HELP

MAKE THESE KIDS
UNCOMFORTABLE.

BUT I MEAN THAT BEING SAID
JUST
TODAY 15 OF THEM WERE HERE, AND

TWO OF THE THEM BEING THOSE
BOYS

THAT WERE INVOLVED IN
THAT
INCIDENT.

I FEEL LIKE SAFEWAY SHOULD HAVE
SOME

KIND OF RESTRICTION FROM

ALLOWING THEM ON THE PROPERTY
OF

A RESTRAINING ORDER

FROM THE
BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

I
DON'T KNOW.

IF WE'VE REQUESTED THE
FENCE.

THAT OBVIOUSLY GOT SHOT DOWN.

BUT ASIDE FROM THE

GRAFFITI

ABATEMENT MAYBE A SPECIAL
CLAUSE

IN THERE THAT WHEN IT IS HATE

GRAFFITI THAT IT GETS TAKEN
DOWN, LIKE, WITHIN 24 HOURS.

THAT WAS UP THERE FOR -- I
MEAN,

WE ENDED UP HAVING --
OUR
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NEIGHBORS HAD TO TAKE CARE OF IT
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BECAUSE IT WAS JUST PAINFUL TO
LOOK AT.

BUT, YEAH, I MEAN I JUST
HOPE

THAT EVERYBODY CAN KIND

OF COME

TOGETHER WITH A PLAN AND I DO

THINK SAFEWAY SHOULD BE
HELD
MORE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS.

AND I DO THINK, YOU KNOW,
THIS

DOES NEED TO BE ADDRESS IN THE
SCHOOLS.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY A
PROBLEM.

THANK
YOU.

THANK YOU, SARAH, FOR
YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS YUNA BLISS AND I

LIVED IN SEBASTOPOL AND
LIVED
HERE FOR 46 YEARS.

AND I

COME HERE AS A VOTER AND

AS A CONSTITUENT FOR CITY

COUNCIL PEOPLE AND TO LET
YOU

KNOW THERE ARE MANY,

MANY PEOPLE

WHO AREN'T IN THE ROOM

TONIGHT

THAT CARE ABOUT THIS ISSUE
AND
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THAT CARE ABOUT SEEING
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SOMETHING
BEING DONE.

IF SAFEWAY WON'T PUT UP A

CAMERA, WHY DOESN'T THE CITY
PUT
UP
A CAMERA?

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU PROBABLY

HAVE SOME KIND OF CITY

PROPERTY

SOMEWHERE ALONG PIT

AVENUE WITH

A STREET LIGHT OR SOME KIND OF
SIGN OR SOMETHING.

IF YOU CAN PUT SURVEILLANCE

CAMERAS UP AT THE LIBRARY, WHICH

YOU HAVE DONE, SURELY YOU CAN DO
IT AT
SAFEWAY.

AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT
THE

CITIZENS HERE, ALL OF THE PEOPLE

HERE REPRESENT HUNDREDS WHO

WOULD ALSO WANT TO

BE HERE

TONIGHT TO SUPPORT THE

FAMILIES

IN SEBASTOPOL WHO DO NOT
FEEL

WELCOMED BY RACIST

ATTACKS IN
SEBASTOPOL.

AND I ALSO WANT TO UNDERSCORE

HOW ESSENTIAL IT IS FOR ALL OF

YOU TO UNDERSTAND AND
BECOME

KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT HOW

SYSTEMIC
THIS IS.

I WENT TO A MEETING AT

BROOKHAVEN MONTHS AGO, AND
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I

KNOW NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.

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THIS IS AN ONGOING ISSUE.

AND AS STEVEN HAS SAID,
IT

STARTS IN THE

ELEMENTARY AND

GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO
HIGH
SCHOOL.

AND IT ISN'T SIMPLY THE KIDS.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE PARENTS
ALSO

THAT ARE

INDOCTRINATING KIDS IN

THIS KIND OF BELIEF SYSTEM, SO I

HOPE WE WILL ALL TAKE IT

SERIOUSLY AND DO SOMETHING AS A

COMMUNITY ABOUT
IT.

THANK
YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL GO OUT
TO ZOOM.

AND, KELLY, CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE?

I WILL COME BACK TO
HER.

JUNE, CAN YOU UNMUTE

YOURSELF,
PLEASE?
YES,
HELLO.

HI THERE.

CAN YOU SEE THE
TIMER?
YES.

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GREAT.

GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.

YEAH, THIS IS JUNE

BRASHARES,

AND I WANTED

TO OFFER MY CONCERN

AND SUPPORT FOR THE FAMILY
AND

RESIDENTS THAT ARE LIVING
NEAR

SAFEWAY THAT HAVE BEEN
THE

TARGET OF THESE ATTACKS AND
HAVE

HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS

HATEFUL
AND WHOLLY UNACCEPTABLE ACTS.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE
HEARD

TONIGHT THIS IS NOT ISOLATED,
SO

I THINK I REALLY RESPECT

APPRECIATE THAT THE THAT
THE
COMMUNITY IS STEPPING UP.

WE DO NEED TO TREAT THIS
AS
SERIOUS AND IMPORTANT.

AND I REGRET THAT IT'S BEEN
SLOW
TO GET TO THIS POINT.

I APPRECIATE IT'S ON THE AGENDA

TONIGHT AND THIS IS A CHANCE
FOR

THE COMMUNITY TO AT LEAST IN

THIS FORM COME TOGETHER AND
TALK

ABOUT THIS AND THE COURAGE
OF

THE PEOPLE SHOWING MUCH I
DO

THINK THERE'S A ROLE

FOR THE

CITY TO PLAY AS A CONVENER
WITH

THE SCHOOLS, WITH THE

BUSINESSES
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AND SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT
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PROGRAMS CAN WE INVEST IN
THAT

WILL START WITH YOUTH AT A
YOUNG
AGE AND GOING ALL THE WAY UP.

HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THIS?

HOW DO WE MAKE CLEAR WHAT
KIND

OF CULTURE DO WE WANT IN
OUR
COMMUNITY?

AND ONE THAT ISN'T

JUST, YOU

KNOW, SHORT-TERM FIXES

OF PUNITIVE

MEASURES OR PUTTING
UP
BARRIERS.

IF THIS IS DEEPLY HAPPENING IN

OUR SOCIETY, WE DO NEED TO
BE

DOING THIS HARD WORK OF

ACTUALLY

HAVING THE DIALOGUE, THE

MEETINGS, THE CONVERSATION,
THE
CONNECTIONS WITH THE SCHOOL.

AND I THINK THE CITY

COUNCIL

NEEDS TO BE A PART OF THAT
AS

ONE PARTNER IN THE

COMMUNITY
ALONG WITH THE REST OF US.

IT ISN'T OFTEN, LIKE,

ORDINANCES
OR LAWS.

IT'S MORE OF PROGRAMS
AND

BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER
AND

THAT KIND OF

ATTENTION THAT I
THINK WE NEED TO PUT ON THIS.

AND TO BE THERE IN SUPPORT OF
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ALL OUR COMMUNITY

MEMBERS,

ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT
ARE

FEELING
THESE ATTACKS.

WE NEED TO BE WITH THEM
AND
SUPPORTING THEM, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JUNE, FOR YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.

NEXT I WILL COME BACK INTO
CHAMBERS.

HI, MY NAME IS LINDA BLOCK.

AND I'M A PARENT AND A FAMILY

THERAPIST WHO SEES THE

INCREDIBLE PAIN THAT THIS
KIND

OF INTIMIDATION AND HARASSMENT

FROM HATE AND BIGOTRY THAT'S
HAPPENING EFFECTS FAMILIES.

THE

UMA IS ONGOING, AND JUST
UNACCEPTABLE IN OUR TOWN.

I THINK I HEARD

SOMEONE SAY THAT

THERE'S NOT A COUNCIL
PERSON
ASSIGNED TO THIS.

IS THAT ACCURATE?

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF
THERE

COULD BE A COUNCIL
PERSON

ASSIGNED TO THIS SO THAT THE

COMMUNITY KNOWS WHO
TO

COMMUNICATE WITH AND CONTACT
AND

AT LEAST THAT COULD BE ONE
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